May 25, 2025 • 53 mins
Finding the joy in unfettered creativity. A podcast dedicated to bringing awareness and context to movies of any budget, from anywhere, and during any time.
In Episode 20 we get to chat with the unofficial Vinegar Syndrome rep from Finland, Ville Lähde.
Wille is the best, his YouTube channel @videotalkvideospace is a cornucopia of physical media discussion and unboxing, with a focus on VS and the wilder side of cinema. The dude has over 3,000 VHS tapes and is an encyclopedia of genre and exploitation cinema.
He brings passion to each discussion, and is always very honest about what he likes and doesn't like. We cover the H2BF announcements as well as the April releases.
Coming up next is June, the partner month. I am working on finalizing a different partner label to help with the announcements around the 1st as well as a label focus mid month.
Thank you for those who continue to listen and please let me know how I can make this better!
https://videospace.fi/
https://www.youtube.com/@VideoTalkVideospace
In Episode 20 we get to chat with the unofficial Vinegar Syndrome rep from Finland, Ville Lähde.
Wille is the best, his YouTube channel @videotalkvideospace is a cornucopia of physical media discussion and unboxing, with a focus on VS and the wilder side of cinema. The dude has over 3,000 VHS tapes and is an encyclopedia of genre and exploitation cinema.
He brings passion to each discussion, and is always very honest about what he likes and doesn't like. We cover the H2BF announcements as well as the April releases.
Coming up next is June, the partner month. I am working on finalizing a different partner label to help with the announcements around the 1st as well as a label focus mid month.
Thank you for those who continue to listen and please let me know how I can make this better!
https://videospace.fi/
https://www.youtube.com/@VideoTalkVideospace
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hey all, welcome back to Punk Vacation and Unofficial Vinegar
Syndrome Podcast. This is episode twenty. I'm Chris. You know,
I'm using this podcast to find the joy in unfettered creativity,
trying to make a podcast dedicated to bringing awareness and
context to movies of any budget, from anywhere and during
(01:07):
any time. And I'm very very excited today because we're doing.
As you know, just about a week ago the episode
came out with Claudia Bratalin and because it's halfway to
Black Friday, I was trying to figure out what to do,
and I thought there'd be nobody better to bring on
than someone who's dedicating a lot of their own YouTube
(01:29):
channel and digital space to Vinegar Syndrome. Ville Lada from Finland,
host a video talk and creator of videospace dot Fi.
WILLI thank you so so much for coming on.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Thanks Chris so much for reminding me on your show again. Yeah,
that's a pleasure of course. So for those that don't know,
there's another podcast I run called They Live by Film
and really was nice enough to come on. Was it
two years ago?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was a while ago. It was a while ago. Yeah,
I don't remember the exact year, but yeah, who's counting
the years?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, exactly exactly, but yeah, it was. It was so
fun to talk to you then, and I'm I still
remain a fan of your channel. You bring so much
passion and energy to two year. Yeah it's great, it's great.
You do a wonderful job, and you do shows in
(02:30):
Finnish and English.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes I do, Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Which takes up a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yes it does, and it's kind of hard to balance
between the Like clearly my finished channel gets more attention
than the English one because yeah, I have a larger
like an audience over there. But yeah I'm getting I'm
getting bigger, bigger and bigger, bigger, smaller in English side also.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, yeah that's good. I hope it continues to grow
for you. So for anybody that doesn't know, you know,
the only if anybody's listening and the only reason they
know Finland is heavy Chip and then heavier Chip. How
is the physical media seen in Finland?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, kind of small. We are getting like the most
mainstream releases. There are a couple of labels here in
Finland as well, like future film that is bringing like
a more obscure stuff. But I think they have quite
completely the physical media, so we basically we get the
(03:41):
Warner Bros. And we get the universals and the big labels,
the big studios. But yeah, it's getting worse by the
year because it's physical media is going going down. But
also I would I would also say that maybe the
rise of labels, in the boutique labels has been like
(04:07):
a part of that, because I think most of the
people who collect films, who are very serious about that,
maybe they you know, shop their film from abroad.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Okay, And it's not like if you go to the
UK to ship in Germany to ship in the ship,
the actual cost for shipping is not too bad.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Right, yeah, it's not too bad. Well, UK is no
longer a part of U, so you might get like
a custom stream. But most of the US UK stores
that I buy do have this something called EOSS code,
so you know that they have all already handled the
(04:48):
taxes and stuff, so you don't get any It's not
not not very much different that you would order something
from inside Finland.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, Well, at least it's not too bad you And
that's kind of relevant for you because you order a lot.
What's your movie collection up to you? Now? Do you
have a number? Do you have a number in your mind?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Actually, I have that Vida Space record here. I can
give you at least a very good estimate of that,
because there may be something that I have forgotten to
add or forgotten to you know, remove from them right
from the collection. But currently I have seven two hundred
(05:32):
and fifty two films, and four k is four hundred
and thirty three, and blue ray is blue ray is
T thousands and six hundred and seventy one, and DVD
would be wait a second two hundred and thirty seven.
(05:58):
And v HS, which is the place where I started
all these things, is two three thousand and eight hundred
and forty three.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Oh wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I just bought. I'm a little bit ashamed to admit this,
but I just bought a thousand euros worth of VHS
and it had five vhs and and two of them
I already had. Why would I do this? You're asking
(06:30):
why why would I? Why would anybody do this? Well?
I bought this because the guy who sold sold them,
he was selling the complete Meteor video collection it's a
very like a Nordic label. I think it's Danish originally.
But they released five movies in Finland in the I
(06:51):
think in the eighty two or eighty three, Okay, And
that's the complete collection. And I have been searching for
the uh, the Girl, No, they Prostitucci on some sort
of Italian movie, and the Lonely Violent Beach. Okay, this
(07:14):
is an American film. I don't know. It's all from
Italian as well, but these two, it's practically it's impossible
to find, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And so in order to get those two, you had
to get the whole set.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, I did get the whole set, haven't haven't unboxed yet,
but I'm sure I will do video in both languages.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, I'm sure you know anybody, most people listening are
going to be collectors, and so I think we have
empathy for you. I'm sure everybody has a similar story.
You know they have right now, there's a lot of
people that are mad because they just paid three hundred
dollars for that Mario Baba set from Aero. Yeah, and
(08:00):
then Screen Factory just announced a new set with the
same movies. But do you never know, no of course,
of course, of course, and the screen factory set sucks.
The special features are not good, and so it's a
I mean it's beautiful looking, but aero set is still better.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah. I was also looking at that and I was
thinking about the myself. No, that's a that's a geek
ass box.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, okay, so video Space dot f
I you kind of tease that a little bit, but
do you want to talk about it really quick and
kind of what it is? And then we because it's
it's in English language as well, right, yes it is.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And it was like a tool which I made for
myself because I know there's a lot of like cataloging
softwares around, but I couldn't find the one that fits
my needs to you know, put everything in a VHS
has laser discs and Davy days and blow right and
(09:01):
four case. So I did this from the ground up
and it's now it's public and you can write rer
views and it is always under production construction.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So yeah, but your day job is in it? That right,
what your day job? It's in it?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yes, yes, yeah, I'm working. This is like what I
do when I'm working, like this kind of you like
UI accent and programming and yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, so that's let's get you the right person
to creating this. Then to be creating this, I like.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
To you know, kind of like a featured around, you know,
like like sharpening my skills and stuff I need to.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Actually, I've been meaning to put my collection in video
space because I have accelerate now and it's okay, but
it doesn't have any detail. You know, I have to
manually put in everything.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yes, it can be a paying full job.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah yeah, okay, cool. Well, so for today, I wanted
people to get a little bit of a glimpse of
how much you love Vinegar Syndrome. So I thought we
could do it maybe a few different ways. Obviously, we'll
talk a little bit about the Halfway to Black Friday stuff,
and you know, some of it's old because they announced
half of the titles in almost a month ago now,
(10:27):
but maybe we can spend a few minutes going over that.
And then at the end, I thought maybe we could
talk about some of the April releases if that work
still works for you, Okay, great, right, So going back
to what just came out, I have to I have
to say, you know, I'm always a little bit what's
the right way to say this. There's a debate going
(10:49):
on right now with vinegar syndrome of like, are they
putting out too many Hollywood movies?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, And some people were a little bit sad with
movies like The Golden Child because they thought, well, that's
that they're putting it up, but that's not really like
a vinegar syndrome title.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, I understand that sentiment, and I can think of
a couple of reasons why they're doing number one being that, yeah,
they get getting bigger, you know, they have access for
bigger things, and bigger sells better, you know, money talks.
And also it could be a reason also that it
(11:27):
could be increasingly difficult to find, you know, the source
material and rights to some more like a good underground
and B movie product out there, because they have done
so much of that right.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Titles.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Now if they have like a negatives for some movie,
so it could be very difficult maybe to find the
owner of that movie so they can actually release it.
Right intent, they could have rights to something, but they
don't have proper negatives on proper masters to do that,
(12:07):
so it can be but I'm just guessing I'm speculating
here because I don't work there.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, I know, I know they should hiree though they
should be you should be the European representative. That would great,
But this one, you know, I think my I'm curious
to see how the internet reacts to the new announcements
that just came out, because we've already known about Golden
Child and Jade and then Dirty Work, those ones we
already kind of know. Personally, I'm excited about Dirty Work,
(12:38):
but just because it's like a sentimental favorite of mine.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I have never even seen it. I never seen it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It wasn't super popular, That's the thing. I think, like
a lot of people didn't see it, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I think when it came out late nineties, was it yeah,
the yeah, I think it went here, went straight to
video and without any like fanfares so many I think
many of my age finished guys did it miss miss
it completely? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And you know even I mean, honestly speaking, if you
look at reviews from the movie at the time, there's
a lot of people that didn't like it. But I
looking back on it now, I think more people are
seeing how funny it was. And also nor McDonald has
become a little bit of a cult figure because he's
so his humor is so dry. I think people like
(13:33):
him better now as he got older, he became you know,
he's very funny. So I think it's a little bit
of a resurgence for this film in general.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, and but having when I said that, I haven't
never seen it, but I'm very excited and interested to
say it because I'm a fan of R rated comedies
and this, to my understanding, is the first time this
has ever been released as an R rated version. Do
you know what dirty Work was called in Finland? And
(14:04):
as a videotape, No, what was it? It was called
yeah na yang And that means, like, how would I
translate it? Gang gang that uh pieces people. I mean
it's kind of red a gang that does does like
(14:26):
like these.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Mean tricks, kind of like pranks basically.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
But prankd but like mean pranks.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh yeah, Well, I can't wait for you to see
the movie and see if the title makes sense because
it is kind of like a practical tale.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's a It's my favorite thing about that is the
special features they got, like the if you like R
rated comedies, the the people that are the commentaries and
the behind the scenes features. Those people are like legends
of comedy, like absolute legends, and I can't wait to
hear some of them talk. Yeah yeah, like longtime writers
(15:03):
of SNL or just like amazing, amazing comedians. You know.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I think we and Carstener they should have done that
released this dirty work when the sale began, because they
announced it a little bit too early. Yeah, and people
were excited, but now when the rest of the titles
came out, so they were kind of underwhelming.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I see what you mean. But yeah, I mean it's
you're just talking about overall feeling for the sale. But
this title is selling like crazy for them. Like I
think they had eight thousand and then they bumped it
up to ten thousand, and then they're almost selling out already.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, so it's it's been a huge one for them.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
But anyways, happened the same happened with Roadhouse and uh
what was the rat.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they've had a few titles
recently that really sold like crazy, even you know, they
keep like a few months ago, I think twelve thousand
copies sold or something, so I mean they're not quite
back up to the old days where you could sell
fifty thousand copies. It's not quite like that. But even
(16:15):
like in twenty twenty five, to sell ten, twelve, fifteen
thousand copies of a movie because they sell standards too,
you know, like, that's pretty good. I'm happy for them.
They're doing a really good job.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But now those three titles came out, and I think people,
like you said, there's some mixed emotions. Some people very excited.
Some people are very excited about Jade. Jade's another one.
They got panned when it came out. It was not
not a lot of people liked it. But I think
kind of like it's getting reevaluated, which is good. But
then this month they drop two movies that I think,
(16:51):
I mean, I hope people are excited about. I mean,
not this month, but at the actual sale, they dropped
two movies that I hope people are excited about because
now we're getting a Georgia Merrow movie and Dark Half
Yeah yeah, yeah, And Let's Scare Jessica to Death, which
is a complete cult classic.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
One. One great thing about this I haven't seen Dirly
work ever. Jade. I don't think I have seen it.
Maybe if I if I show it. I saw it
on television. I have absolutely zero recollection of that. I
have seen many times Dark Health It's okay, But now
I have never seen Let's Scare Jessica to Death. I
(17:33):
never I can't.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Wait to see a reaction to it. When you watch it, it's
it's a it's just a I don't know, it's just
kind of it just gets really scary, like like like
there's a lot of like really good like terror in
the movie, and it's like.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Somebody said that it's very eerie and at must fear.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yes, yeah, that's hard that I like, oh, absolutely, yeah no,
And it's I think it's from yeah, nineteen seventy one,
so it's they're they're I don't know. I think this
is one of those ones that people are so excited
to see in four K because the visuals kind of,
you know, matter in the way that it's shut and
so it's going to be allow people to see it
(18:22):
in a new way as well, which I'm so I'm
so excited about. But they actually got John Hancock as
the commentary, which is is a pretty big I mean,
I keep saying this, but they they're getting pretty good
big Hollywood people here to start, you know, being on
their commentaries and being on their features, which is exciting,
(18:43):
he said.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The director.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, of course the director.
He's so they bang the drum Slowly is a movie
that Liberty put out on the cinematograph line, and so
they're starting to and that was a very popular movie
when it came out. Did you see that one when
it came to Do you collect the cinematograph stuff?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yes, some of them, but not completely, And that is
one that I did, is I think, But you're saying
that it's a great picture, you know what.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You know, sometimes people get say like I don't want
to watch a baseball movie or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I don't know it's a baseball movie.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, okay, But the thing is, I actually think it's
probably one of the best baseball movies because it's not
really about baseball. It's really about friendship. But like it's
just done in a very honest and raw kind of
sincere way, Like it's not a cheesy movie at all.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, maybe maybe someday I'll give it that shot.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You know you can. I'm sure you can stream it somehow,
just to see if you like it. But yeah, it's
a very like it's Robert de Niro, young Robert de Niro,
and he's he's playing somebody who's basically sick, and there's
a he's not very good baseball player, and there's an
ace really like star of the team who's supporting him
and building him up.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
It's just a sweet film, and it's surprising. It's because
it's not really about baseball in that sense, you know.
But then right after Bang the Drum Slowly, he comes
out with Let's Scare Jessica to Death, which is dark
and completely different, and I think it was a bit
shocking for people. But it's such a great movie.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
So why do I get the sense that Bank that
drums slowly? It was like a very much more new
film than is done in the sixties. They yeah, yeah, yeah, Banks.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
So Bang the Drum Slowly came out the year it
was nineteen seventy three, so I guess, oh, wait a minute,
Oh I got it backwards, So nineteen seventy three, and
so I guess it came out two years later than this. Okay, fine,
So he does let Scare Jessica to Death first, and
then Bang the Jump Slowly, But okay.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But I was thinking like the late eighties or something.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it's a it's
still in the kind of the same timeframe. But but anyways, yeah, no,
I'm very excited about Let's Scare Jessica to Death? And
how many copies do they make? Okay, eight thousand. I
have a hunch that these eight thousand are going to
fly off the shelf, hope, so for them, and then
(21:21):
there's those, so that completes the month, so for them.
For the main line, if you have a subscription with
Vinegar Syndrome, do you have a subscription? Yes, okay, yeah,
so you're getting five movies and they're all pretty big movies.
I mean, like this is a there's no yeah, even Romero,
even the Dark Half. This is something that came out
(21:43):
in nineteen ninety three, so I mean he was already
a huge name at this point.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
For Romero was yeah, but we get four movies in
the subscription. The Golden Child is Vinegar Syndrome Ultra.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. Okay, I do
get I sometimes I look over that.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So Vinegar Syndrome Ultra is that one and then we
get the other ones that were released this time was
the remake of Breathless, not to go dared Breathless, but
the Richard Guere nineties remake.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I hate to repeat myself, but that is also something
I have never seen.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, I haven't seen it either, and I don't I
don't know that I have a strong interest in this one.
If I'm being honest.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
People tell me that, yeah, you shouldn't see it. It's
an eighties movie, it's great. And then I said that, okay,
maybe I will give it that sanche and I ordered
this Cinematocraft four K of Breathless because it was released
by Fantasy to Editions. I don't know, was it two
years ago something, and it sold out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of in the same boat
as you. I got it, and I'll watch it, and
I'm ready to be surprised by it. I don't know,
I'm not super excited going in.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And I also got Criminally Insane two.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
That one I'm excited about.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm ready to be blown away.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That one, I'm excited about it. So that's the new
Degausar title, and Criminally Insane one was put out on
the mainline as part of the double feature. Yes, but
this movie, what's the other name for it?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Fat?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, crazy fat. I just I just love this description.
Three years after going on a bloody food related killing spree,
gluttonous Ethel Janofski is deemed fit to return to society.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Nicko mollarg is a director who's getting some more attention recently,
and I'm very happy about that because his his SLV
stuff is wild and highly entertaining, so I'm happy he's
getting some love.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah. I didn't even know that this Crazy Fat at
all had a sequel, but Craig to learn new things
and somehow.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's going to get tied into the Marvel universe.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah. The cinematic universe is crazy Fat.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
There's so that's the Gausser and Cinematograph and then Vinegar
Syndrome Labs has Charlie One Eye, which I'm really curious
to see what people say about this one. So have
you have you seen this one?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Or no? This is a very haven't And this interests
me very much because it's starring Richard crown Tree and
it's made in the early seventies, so, and it's a
Western and it's a British film, so not many British
Vesterns were made, and also starring Richard crown Tree. Maybe
(25:11):
this is somehow connected with the blaxploitation wave of that year.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, so this is an interesting one because you know,
like a lot of the like, there's there's a there's
an area of Spain where a lot of the spaghetti
westerns were shot. I guess for budget reasons. Maybe it
was cheaper to shoot there, I don't know, but or
maybe it was just looked more like the American West.
But this they actually went there and shot in that area.
So this is a movie shot in Spain, extremely violent,
(25:40):
very racial, and the content is very racial, and it's
sort of they call it like an anti Western a
little bit. I haven't seen this movie, so I don't
want to pretend like I have, but I know about
it because this is one of those movies that I
think people cite as being an important watch, like an
important you know, there's an important discussion to be had
(26:02):
from the movie. So it's very interesting that they're putting
this out. I think the special features on this I
cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, but to me this is also this also sounds
very interesting to me. Especially if you said that it's
very violent western. So I'm loving it already.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the magic words. Fore, No,
it's good, it's yeah. I mean, well, I don't know
for sure, but it's I've heard about this movie for
a long time and it's I think violent, maybe in
the same way that Sam Peckinpaw is violent, where it's
more like yeah. So anyways, I love it, and I
(26:49):
love very very excited for this one from Vinegar Syndrome.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And then they put out a sequel, so they were
teasing a trilogy of movies coming out from Hong Kong.
Vinegar Syndrome market. Yeah, and this, this trilogy of Iron Angels,
I cannot wait to dig into.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah. I have not seen any of these. And I'm
a fan of Hong Kong actions cinema. And this goes
to that time slot, that much magical time slot late eighties,
early nineties when the action movies were very very good,
you know when they when they brought from Hong Kong,
(27:31):
these films. So eagerly looking forward in seeing this.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, and it's and you know these movies when you
watch them, if you didn't know that it was a
female director for all three of them. I think nobody
would ever guess, and just because if you have any
preconceived notion about what a female director would bring to
a movie like this, it this just blows it out
of the water. Like they're very violent, there's a ton
(27:57):
of action, there're at the pace is very quick. They're
they're just they're great, Like they're just great action movies.
The interesting you will you have seen them for the
first one, the first one, Yeah, okay, And I mean
I'm sure this, I mean, we'll see. I'm sure the
sequels are the same, but we'll see, I guess. But
(28:18):
they're just it's just a very quick like the movie
feels quick to watch it, you know, it's never really boring. Yeah,
I love it. This is a This is the one
I can't wait to dig into that. I saw it
under the title Fighting Madam, not not Iron Angels, but
I've seen the movie anyways.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You know, many people complain that B s A should
be like we say American and or we say action,
which it is, but most of most of the films
are action moves. But it stands for wine Syndrome Archive.
But I not necessarily don't complain when they do Hong
Kong moves if they are good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, I'm trying to think, has there been under the
under the VSA line. Has there been a Hong Kong
movie that you didn't like? If not to put you
on the spot, but I liked the most of the
ones they put out.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, what was that? Did you see the one with
the fireman? The fuck the Hong Kong Fireman? Oh it
was a Chinese movie. Wait a second, let's see.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You're not talking about Love on Delivery, are you?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
No? No?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Oh Lifeline Lifeline, Life, Lifeline, Lifeline.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Okay, you like that? No, I didn't. I honestly think
that that that doesn't belong in the VSA series. It
was an action movie. It's like a like a very
melodramatic drama movie, which its own self was kind of
funny because when you're compared to the Western movies, you
(29:59):
can find so so over over acted scene of.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Drama, dramatic moments, right right, right right. Yeah, that was
a Johnny Toe movie. I'm a little bit of a
homer for Johnny Toe, but that's not one of my
favorite movies from him.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I agree with you on that.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
And usually no matter if it's a v s A
or regular arena Gacrian Dromeline. I don't think that if
they put out films that are, you know, above the
two thousands, then there's gotta be a very good reason
for it.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh. In my opinion, I'm sure if they were on
the on here, they would just say it's they were
just excited to put out a Johnny Toe movie. Maybe yeah,
but but yeah, no, I see what you mean. That
one maybe doesn't fit the line as well, because the
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month before that they put out The Instructor, which is
just kind of fun and crazy in all the best ways.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
That's that's exactly what I am expecting from vs A.
That is the like May that's the lifeline of VSA.
The instruction is so incredible and I have actually this one.
I have actually seen many times. I have the VHS
Old Finish VHS, and we used to watch this as
(31:25):
a kid, like a for example of very bad movie,
which is it is, which it.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Is, but but bad in the best way is possible
and in the best way possible. It's it's so bizarre
at places, and the end and chase sequence.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I think it takes like almost third of the movie.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, they put the movie around that final chase sequence
for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, there is.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
There's a movie that I was just watching for Vinegar Syndrome.
Oh oh well, okay, this is maybe a good segue
to talk about the April releases because there's a really
funny chase sequence in one of those two. Okay, and
we'll be quick because I know you have to go soon,
but I just wanted to spend some time on these
Halfway to Black Friday movies because honestly, like I know,
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people are a little bit you know, the people that
have been collecting Vinegar Syndrome for twenty years or whatever
now this fifteen years, are a little bit down on
the direction they're going because they want the porn and
they want the more like you know, bloody action movies
and that kind of stuff. And I totally get it.
I do get it. But I'm happy for Vinegar Syndrome
(32:43):
because the way that I'm seeing it now, they have
these Black Friday events and then the Halfway to Black
Friday and then the Valentine's Day. They have these like events,
you know, these big events. Oh, Subscriber Week is one.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yes, I don't think nobody ailse does like tato oh,
Severn has sales, but it's not not an event in
the same sense.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
True, yeah, yeah, no, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Row Video does sales, but it's not it's not something
that builds up, builds up, and when you're building these
things up, like major events, there's gotta be people who
are always disappointed, right right, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
But I mean if they if these if Subscriber Week
halfway and then the actual Black Friday, if those can
fund the company because they're selling so much, you know,
during these events, then they get to have months like
February where they put out a little bit lesser known movies,
like one of my favorite ones of the year has
been The Carpenter.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Carpenter, Yeah, that was fun one.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh it's great, and like, I love That's that's kind
of in my mind what I want from vinegar syndrome,
right me.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Too, That is like a type example of Winnegars.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes, and so if they can sell ten thousand copies
of Dirty Work and pay for five more movies like
like The Carpenter, than great. I love it. But April
for me was a month that I really I thought
it was great. So have you seen Murder Rock the
Nesting and double Doll. Have you seen all of those?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I have, Okay, I have, just just for the sake
of time. What was Are there any that you really
loved or like, you know, how was the month for you? Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Okay? Not my favorite month to be to be very fair,
previous month was in my opinion, much better where they
came out with table Feeders and Brimstone and Triaco. But here, okay,
I love fool Sea whereas the next guy. But I
think Murder Rock is definitely not his best work. It's
(35:00):
kind of like a I love the idea of killer
in a dance school and you know, putting these eighties
songs playing, and you know, it's like a typical slasher example,
but it only boils down to the cup being comes
(35:21):
to the school and trying to solve the case. And
it didn't work for me. The nest thing in my video,
I already said that, oh my god, this is like
two hours long, and it was. It had its moments,
It had its moments, but kind of overwhelming duration of
(35:42):
the fels.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Okay, so really quick. I love the nesting though, because
I love one of my favorite like guilty pleasures, I
guess is movies that really you can tell they didn't
have a studio coming in and editing them, like they
just they're either too long or they have bad shit ideas.
(36:04):
Like The Nesting has that chase sequence that looks like
something from Looney Tunes right in the middle of it,
and I just love it. Like I don't know, I
have a self spot for movies like that where the
tone doesn't always match up. Like it's kind of it's
like an imperfect movie.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You know, I say what you mean, I what you mean,
but I think that you know, it's kind of like
how that house thing is played so often that it
rarely gets me excited. Yeah, but hey, if we talk
about devil though, Hey, that was a surprising title. I
(36:42):
had never even heard about that. I have heard Lindsay Sean,
the British Canadian director who made the Double Ow films,
the Bond films, that the Pond parody films. I don't
remember why, Licensed to Love and Kill and stuff. But
(37:03):
things were a black and white movie, and especially this
Devil doll mm hmm. It was very like atmospheric, little
like a very little little horror movie. Yeah, and the
duration wasn't too long, did you watch that Devil Doll.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Oh yeah, I did. I think for me. One interesting
tidbit is the lead actor in that movie went on
to create the Criterion Collection.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I also already. I also watched
the was it the Keen Newman or the other guy?
Shames Drower? Who is that drover? Stephen Drower s? Yeah,
he put out this interesting little nugget of information. I
didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So I was kind of laughing. I wonder if if
that guy is sort of like mad that this movie
is coming out. I don't know if he wants to
be connected to it. But I think the movie is great.
It's fun, like it's a fun like you said, it's
good atmosphere. That doll is creepy, and I like I
like the way that they show it walking like it's
a It's pretty good effects considered the.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Low budget kind of home thing.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very much like Chucky. I
think in terms of like a like a proto Chucky. No.
I like Devil Doll quite a bit. Curse of the
Voodoo was it was awful. It was atrocious.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, I completely agree. I got white Hunter in a
Jungle comes back to England and the curse follows humans
and you have seen that so many times.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
But I was laughing because you know, nowadays people have
certain like sensibilities that didn't exist in the sixties, right,
and you really can't make the hunter the hero nowadays.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, no, absolutely not. Yeah, you somebody in today was
definite to say that this film is why racist.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yes, I mean, I don't want to talk about spoilers,
but I was just laughing so hard when he killed
this tribe of people that's trying to protect the lion,
and then the movie celebrated the fact that this tribe that.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Exactly exactly what a weird picture.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
The only thing I'll say from the month is that
I am a huge sucker for trauma movies, so anytime
we get something like Igor and the Lunatics coming out,
for me, that's a huge win. I know that's a
VSA title. I actually think that's a really weird one
to put out in VSA. I wish that would have
been a mainline title, but I agree, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(39:48):
But I love that that Igor came out because that's
a really I love that movie. Even even though I
understand that people don't like it, I understand why but
I have like a soft spot for it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, I think that film. I watched it for the
first time. I think it has lots of potent potential
that is kind of lost in all these other nonsense
like that. I don't remember how it was played, but
the mother like finding her son and then it kind
of focuses on ten and I don't know why. But
(40:22):
do you know that in the same year a lot
better movie was made from the kind of same topic. Okay,
which one in nineteen eighty five? Thsalt Not Killed? Except
have you seen that one? Say it again? Those those
alt not killed?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Except no, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
It's great, it's great, it's.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
As except Okay, I'll have to go look it up.
But it's a similar type of theme.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, it is like these old marines that Vietnam veterans
against hippies in a small town. That's awesome. I was
directed by what is it, Scott Speaker. Oh wow, So
it's like a but it is starting some rain.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Wow, Okay, interesting? And Sam Raimi plays the military or
the hippie.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
No, no, he plays a hippie leader. That's that is
exactly that. Quite a wild one.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Okay, I have to have to find that. Yeah, I
haven't seen that one before. That's a great tip, thank you.
I guess. Then we have to just at least talk
briefly about I mean, drops On for me is fine.
It's it's it's a fine, It's fine.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Uh. I always always complained this, but the movies need
to be shorter, they need to be a little because
I think dropped some most serious problem. It kind of
drags in the second act.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
No willis why is it so long?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's think almost too, it's like an hour forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, ninety minutes. I think it's a pretty brilliant,
brilliant I.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Mean, okay, So I was laughing because I think the
premise of the movie is just kind of funny because
it's basically like a Fast and the Furious movie, but
with parachuoters. Yeah right, they have these like clubs. They
get together and they like compete against.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Each other, and basically it's like a beat by b
to rip up from the earlier film then point break.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes exactly. So I was
I enjoyed it from that angle of seeing, just kind
of like, oh, this is like a silly sort of
a detour from like you know, like there's no reason
for this movie to exist. But yeah, it was too long.
It needed to be at least fifteen twenty minutes shorter.
Then it's like type the packs of tight punch. But
(42:59):
then just lastly, we have to talk about Last Tango
in Paris a little bit. So, yeah, did have you
seen it before this?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
No? I had not, And that film has quite a
reputation in philand I think it originally it was banned,
like in many countries it was banned, but we get
the VHS and all that, but I still I never
had seen it, and now I watched it, and yeah,
(43:27):
very interesting, interesting movie. Lots of different level levels in
that that film. Mm hmm. That will require a couple
of times to rewatch it.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Well, I'm a I'm a huge fan of this guy,
Bernardo Berlucci, in the sense of the way he's like
a visual director, right, so his movies always look beautiful
and they do it and this one does yeah, exactly.
Some of the shots in this film are just breadtaking,
I think, and even even in a room, there's just
(44:01):
the way he uses color and shadow and like it's
just very much like almost like spend like this kind
of with the way that they shoot like a contrast
in a scene.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Mm hmm, So totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, so I think, like, for me, this movie is
amazing actually, and it's it gets a lot of controversy
because of some of the rape in it, and.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
That's hardly made the main point of the film.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Exactly and honestly speaking the way that it's see, Like,
I think it has to be done in a way
where if the movie is about the rape and like
celebrating rape, okay, that's bad.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I don't think this was doing at all that.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Like he's a he's a completely broken character. He never
portrayed as somebody who is like a morally superior person
or like like he's doing the right thing. That's never
portrayed that way. And I don't know, like I think
the movie that both characters have enough flaws that you
get to see like the nuances of their character, and
(45:10):
I think the movie is great. And they actually get
to talk to Bertolucci, which is amazing. So yeah, anyways,
it's a very European movie, you know.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yes, one might think that this is like some sort
of like a sleazy sex movie. But not at all.
It's just a realistic European, like a New French way
of seeingema, true cinema made for.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Adults exactly, not necessarily adult movies, which is the mellow
scene line. Yeah that movies made for adults.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, I don't know why where I'm getting at.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
No, I completely agree that, and most of Berta Lucci's
movies are like that. There's a movie. Well anyways, that's
the way he thinks and acts and directs. I was very,
very happy to see this, and I can't wait to
dig into the special features on this one as well.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
And I think I watched some of them, But what's
there like an hour long interview This kind of it's
very exhausting, especially if if the language is some other
language than for me, if Finish, Stan or English. Because
I don't understand other languages, so I cannot simply just
(46:27):
listen to them. I have to read the subtitles, and
that means that I have to actually be watching.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
It right right, right, right, very It's not like having
in the background or something.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Yeah, yeah, you many many times I watch extras. For example,
before we started to record this, I listened to some
of those pail writer extras on Clint Eastwood's career or something.
I listened to my headphones on and yeah, that's the way.
A great way to you know, get some background noise
and even learn something from some As a.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Separate note, just as we as we kind of wrap
up here, you know, I think for me, like I
wish that companies will put their special features on YouTube
or something, on some podcast or something, because it's it's
even a commentary. It's an amazing way to if you're
traveling and you just put it on like a podcast.
You don't actually have to be watching the movie. I mean,
you just hear the way they talk about it, and
(47:23):
it would be perfect.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
I think I have done many times that when I'm
working with my IT stuff, I on a comment theory. Yeah. Yeah,
Currently I'm mostly working at home, so it's easy for
me to put on a commentary of whatever.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Right, well, Willly, this is great, Thank you so much
for doing this.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
This was again, this was a nice experience and always
a pleasure to talk to somebody with also a pleasure,
you know, like a track affection for Winnegar syndrome.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yes, I think you're carrying the flag for Europe as
as far as I'm concerned, I try to at least publicly.
I mean, it's amazing your channel. I really can't encourage
people enough to go check out your channel because you
bring a lot of energy and passion and just deep
deep knowledge. I mean, who knows tens of thousands of
movies you've seen at this point in your life?
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Oh too many? Definitely too many. But it's fun.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, there's a discovery that happens. I think today the
way that this episode went today is a good reflection
on this. Vinegar Syndrome helps in the discovery process, which
I think is one thing I've always loved about them.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
I meant to say that about the same thing that
the one thing that grows made to Vinegar Syndrome, even
though always they are not the best movies ever, but
you know, tennest thing, I have never seen that Ego
and the lunatics have never seen that, and now coming
movies that there was quite a few of those. I've
never seen that. So I considered myself that I have
(49:05):
seen a lot of movies, but mine Concerndrome. They put
out this product that don't necessarily be like a major sellers, right,
but there are most certainly a good like education of
B movies and underground movies. And that's the best thing ever.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
It is exactly awesome. Well WILLI thank you so much.
And you know, anytime you want to come back on
and talk about something you're excited about, even if it's
for ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
You're welcome. Let's do it again. It's good.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Good, we will thank you, Okay.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Thanks, bye bye, Thank you Bill. That was great. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I love any conversation with him, and I do hope
he's able to come back. So yeah, I think we're
gonna as far as the Black Friday or the halfway
the Black Friday sale goes. You know, there's some merch.
If there's any particular merch that you wanted me to
(50:11):
talk about, like I was kind of laughing at the
Orgie butter that they put out over on the Melou
Scene site. If there's any particular merch you want me
to talk about, let me know. I did order the
cinematograph mug, the coffee mug. It was too cool to
pass up, and I happened to kind of collect coffee mugs,
so that was like, you know, I talk about not
(50:33):
buying a lot of merch and that's true, but I
do always look through it and that's one I couldn't
pass up on. Yeah, I can't wait to get into
Partner Month so June. I don't know if it'll come
out exactly June first because we've done a couple episodes
back to back here, but early June we'll do an
episode looking at the partner announcements, and then mid June
(50:57):
i'll have hopefully i'll have the ability to talk about
the May releases, but if I don't have them in yet,
then we'll use mid June to probably do a Partner
label focus uh and do a deep dive on one
of the labels. So anyways, y'all, thanks so much for
sticking around. This is episode twenty in the books. Please,
(51:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:46):
Hey all, welcome back to Punk Vacation and Unofficial Vinegar
Syndrome Podcast. This is episode twenty. I'm Chris. You know,
I'm using this podcast to find the joy in unfettered creativity,
trying to make a podcast dedicated to bringing awareness and
context to movies of any budget, from anywhere and during
(01:07):
any time. And I'm very very excited today because we're doing.
As you know, just about a week ago the episode
came out with Claudia Bratalin and because it's halfway to
Black Friday, I was trying to figure out what to do,
and I thought there'd be nobody better to bring on
than someone who's dedicating a lot of their own YouTube
(01:29):
channel and digital space to Vinegar Syndrome. Ville Lada from Finland,
host a video talk and creator of videospace dot Fi.
WILLI thank you so so much for coming on.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Thanks Chris so much for reminding me on your show again. Yeah,
that's a pleasure of course. So for those that don't know,
there's another podcast I run called They Live by Film
and really was nice enough to come on. Was it
two years ago?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Now?
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was a while ago. It was a while ago. Yeah,
I don't remember the exact year, but yeah, who's counting
the years?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, exactly exactly, but yeah, it was. It was so
fun to talk to you then, and I'm I still
remain a fan of your channel. You bring so much
passion and energy to two year. Yeah it's great, it's great.
You do a wonderful job, and you do shows in
(02:30):
Finnish and English.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yes I do, Yes, I do.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Which takes up a lot of times.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yes it does, and it's kind of hard to balance
between the Like clearly my finished channel gets more attention
than the English one because yeah, I have a larger
like an audience over there. But yeah I'm getting I'm
getting bigger, bigger and bigger, bigger, smaller in English side also.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Well, yeah that's good. I hope it continues to grow
for you. So for anybody that doesn't know, you know,
the only if anybody's listening and the only reason they
know Finland is heavy Chip and then heavier Chip. How
is the physical media seen in Finland?
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, kind of small. We are getting like the most
mainstream releases. There are a couple of labels here in
Finland as well, like future film that is bringing like
a more obscure stuff. But I think they have quite
completely the physical media, so we basically we get the
(03:41):
Warner Bros. And we get the universals and the big labels,
the big studios. But yeah, it's getting worse by the
year because it's physical media is going going down. But
also I would I would also say that maybe the
rise of labels, in the boutique labels has been like
(04:07):
a part of that, because I think most of the
people who collect films, who are very serious about that,
maybe they you know, shop their film from abroad.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Okay, And it's not like if you go to the
UK to ship in Germany to ship in the ship,
the actual cost for shipping is not too bad.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Right, yeah, it's not too bad. Well, UK is no
longer a part of U, so you might get like
a custom stream. But most of the US UK stores
that I buy do have this something called EOSS code,
so you know that they have all already handled the
(04:48):
taxes and stuff, so you don't get any It's not
not not very much different that you would order something
from inside Finland.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, Well, at least it's not too bad you And
that's kind of relevant for you because you order a lot.
What's your movie collection up to you? Now? Do you
have a number? Do you have a number in your mind?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Actually, I have that Vida Space record here. I can
give you at least a very good estimate of that,
because there may be something that I have forgotten to
add or forgotten to you know, remove from them right
from the collection. But currently I have seven two hundred
(05:32):
and fifty two films, and four k is four hundred
and thirty three, and blue ray is blue ray is
T thousands and six hundred and seventy one, and DVD
would be wait a second two hundred and thirty seven.
(05:58):
And v HS, which is the place where I started
all these things, is two three thousand and eight hundred
and forty three.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Oh wow, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
I just bought. I'm a little bit ashamed to admit this,
but I just bought a thousand euros worth of VHS
and it had five vhs and and two of them
I already had. Why would I do this? You're asking
(06:30):
why why would I? Why would anybody do this? Well?
I bought this because the guy who sold sold them,
he was selling the complete Meteor video collection it's a
very like a Nordic label. I think it's Danish originally.
But they released five movies in Finland in the I
(06:51):
think in the eighty two or eighty three, Okay, And
that's the complete collection. And I have been searching for
the uh, the Girl, No, they Prostitucci on some sort
of Italian movie, and the Lonely Violent Beach. Okay, this
(07:14):
is an American film. I don't know. It's all from
Italian as well, but these two, it's practically it's impossible
to find, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And so in order to get those two, you had
to get the whole set.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yes, I did get the whole set, haven't haven't unboxed yet,
but I'm sure I will do video in both languages.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Well, I'm sure you know anybody, most people listening are
going to be collectors, and so I think we have
empathy for you. I'm sure everybody has a similar story.
You know they have right now, there's a lot of
people that are mad because they just paid three hundred
dollars for that Mario Baba set from Aero. Yeah, and
(08:00):
then Screen Factory just announced a new set with the
same movies. But do you never know, no of course,
of course, of course, and the screen factory set sucks.
The special features are not good, and so it's a
I mean it's beautiful looking, but aero set is still better.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah. I was also looking at that and I was
thinking about the myself. No, that's a that's a geek
ass box.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Well, okay, so video Space dot f
I you kind of tease that a little bit, but
do you want to talk about it really quick and
kind of what it is? And then we because it's
it's in English language as well, right, yes it is.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
And it was like a tool which I made for
myself because I know there's a lot of like cataloging
softwares around, but I couldn't find the one that fits
my needs to you know, put everything in a VHS
has laser discs and Davy days and blow right and
(09:01):
four case. So I did this from the ground up
and it's now it's public and you can write rer
views and it is always under production construction.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
So yeah, but your day job is in it? That right,
what your day job? It's in it?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yes, yes, yeah, I'm working. This is like what I
do when I'm working, like this kind of you like
UI accent and programming and yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, so that's let's get you the right person
to creating this. Then to be creating this, I like.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
To you know, kind of like a featured around, you know,
like like sharpening my skills and stuff I need to.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Actually, I've been meaning to put my collection in video
space because I have accelerate now and it's okay, but
it doesn't have any detail. You know, I have to
manually put in everything.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yes, it can be a paying full job.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Yeah yeah, okay, cool. Well, so for today, I wanted
people to get a little bit of a glimpse of
how much you love Vinegar Syndrome. So I thought we
could do it maybe a few different ways. Obviously, we'll
talk a little bit about the Halfway to Black Friday stuff,
and you know, some of it's old because they announced
half of the titles in almost a month ago now,
(10:27):
but maybe we can spend a few minutes going over that.
And then at the end, I thought maybe we could
talk about some of the April releases if that work
still works for you, Okay, great, right, So going back
to what just came out, I have to I have
to say, you know, I'm always a little bit what's
the right way to say this. There's a debate going
(10:49):
on right now with vinegar syndrome of like, are they
putting out too many Hollywood movies?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, And some people were a little bit sad with
movies like The Golden Child because they thought, well, that's
that they're putting it up, but that's not really like
a vinegar syndrome title.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Yeah, I understand that sentiment, and I can think of
a couple of reasons why they're doing number one being that, yeah,
they get getting bigger, you know, they have access for
bigger things, and bigger sells better, you know, money talks.
And also it could be a reason also that it
(11:27):
could be increasingly difficult to find, you know, the source
material and rights to some more like a good underground
and B movie product out there, because they have done
so much of that right.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Titles.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Now if they have like a negatives for some movie,
so it could be very difficult maybe to find the
owner of that movie so they can actually release it.
Right intent, they could have rights to something, but they
don't have proper negatives on proper masters to do that,
(12:07):
so it can be but I'm just guessing I'm speculating
here because I don't work there.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, I know, I know they should hiree though they
should be you should be the European representative. That would great,
But this one, you know, I think my I'm curious
to see how the internet reacts to the new announcements
that just came out, because we've already known about Golden
Child and Jade and then Dirty Work, those ones we
already kind of know. Personally, I'm excited about Dirty Work,
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but just because it's like a sentimental favorite of mine.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
I have never even seen it. I never seen it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
It wasn't super popular, That's the thing. I think, like
a lot of people didn't see it, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I think when it came out late nineties, was it yeah,
the yeah, I think it went here, went straight to
video and without any like fanfares so many I think
many of my age finished guys did it miss miss
it completely? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And you know even I mean, honestly speaking, if you
look at reviews from the movie at the time, there's
a lot of people that didn't like it. But I
looking back on it now, I think more people are
seeing how funny it was. And also nor McDonald has
become a little bit of a cult figure because he's
so his humor is so dry. I think people like
(13:33):
him better now as he got older, he became you know,
he's very funny. So I think it's a little bit
of a resurgence for this film in general.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, and but having when I said that, I haven't
never seen it, but I'm very excited and interested to
say it because I'm a fan of R rated comedies
and this, to my understanding, is the first time this
has ever been released as an R rated version. Do
you know what dirty Work was called in Finland? And
(14:04):
as a videotape, No, what was it? It was called
yeah na yang And that means, like, how would I
translate it? Gang gang that uh pieces people. I mean
it's kind of red a gang that does does like
(14:26):
like these.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Mean tricks, kind of like pranks basically.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
But prankd but like mean pranks.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Oh yeah, Well, I can't wait for you to see
the movie and see if the title makes sense because
it is kind of like a practical tale.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
It's a It's my favorite thing about that is the
special features they got, like the if you like R
rated comedies, the the people that are the commentaries and
the behind the scenes features. Those people are like legends
of comedy, like absolute legends, and I can't wait to
hear some of them talk. Yeah yeah, like longtime writers
(15:03):
of SNL or just like amazing, amazing comedians. You know.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I think we and Carstener they should have done that
released this dirty work when the sale began, because they
announced it a little bit too early. Yeah, and people
were excited, but now when the rest of the titles
came out, so they were kind of underwhelming.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I see what you mean. But yeah, I mean it's
you're just talking about overall feeling for the sale. But
this title is selling like crazy for them. Like I
think they had eight thousand and then they bumped it
up to ten thousand, and then they're almost selling out already.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it's great.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah, so it's it's been a huge one for them.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
But anyways, happened the same happened with Roadhouse and uh
what was the rat.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they've had a few titles
recently that really sold like crazy, even you know, they
keep like a few months ago, I think twelve thousand
copies sold or something, so I mean they're not quite
back up to the old days where you could sell
fifty thousand copies. It's not quite like that. But even
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like in twenty twenty five, to sell ten, twelve, fifteen
thousand copies of a movie because they sell standards too,
you know, like, that's pretty good. I'm happy for them.
They're doing a really good job.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
But now those three titles came out, and I think people,
like you said, there's some mixed emotions. Some people very excited.
Some people are very excited about Jade. Jade's another one.
They got panned when it came out. It was not
not a lot of people liked it. But I think
kind of like it's getting reevaluated, which is good. But
then this month they drop two movies that I think,
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I mean, I hope people are excited about. I mean,
not this month, but at the actual sale, they dropped
two movies that I hope people are excited about because
now we're getting a Georgia Merrow movie and Dark Half
Yeah yeah, yeah, And Let's Scare Jessica to Death, which
is a complete cult classic.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
One. One great thing about this I haven't seen Dirly
work ever. Jade. I don't think I have seen it.
Maybe if I if I show it. I saw it
on television. I have absolutely zero recollection of that. I
have seen many times Dark Health It's okay, But now
I have never seen Let's Scare Jessica to Death. I
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never I can't.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Wait to see a reaction to it. When you watch it, it's
it's a it's just a I don't know, it's just
kind of it just gets really scary, like like like
there's a lot of like really good like terror in
the movie, and it's like.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Somebody said that it's very eerie and at must fear.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yes, yeah, that's hard that I like, oh, absolutely, yeah no,
And it's I think it's from yeah, nineteen seventy one,
so it's they're they're I don't know. I think this
is one of those ones that people are so excited
to see in four K because the visuals kind of,
you know, matter in the way that it's shut and
so it's going to be allow people to see it
(18:22):
in a new way as well, which I'm so I'm
so excited about. But they actually got John Hancock as
the commentary, which is is a pretty big I mean,
I keep saying this, but they they're getting pretty good
big Hollywood people here to start, you know, being on
their commentaries and being on their features, which is exciting,
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he said.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
The director.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah, of course the director.
He's so they bang the drum Slowly is a movie
that Liberty put out on the cinematograph line, and so
they're starting to and that was a very popular movie
when it came out. Did you see that one when
it came to Do you collect the cinematograph stuff?
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Yes, some of them, but not completely, And that is
one that I did, is I think, But you're saying
that it's a great picture, you know what.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
You know, sometimes people get say like I don't want
to watch a baseball movie or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I don't know it's a baseball movie.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah, okay, But the thing is, I actually think it's
probably one of the best baseball movies because it's not
really about baseball. It's really about friendship. But like it's
just done in a very honest and raw kind of
sincere way, Like it's not a cheesy movie at all.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, maybe maybe someday I'll give it that shot.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You know you can. I'm sure you can stream it somehow,
just to see if you like it. But yeah, it's
a very like it's Robert de Niro, young Robert de Niro,
and he's he's playing somebody who's basically sick, and there's
a he's not very good baseball player, and there's an
ace really like star of the team who's supporting him
and building him up.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
It's just a sweet film, and it's surprising. It's because
it's not really about baseball in that sense, you know.
But then right after Bang the Drum Slowly, he comes
out with Let's Scare Jessica to Death, which is dark
and completely different, and I think it was a bit
shocking for people. But it's such a great movie.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
So why do I get the sense that Bank that
drums slowly? It was like a very much more new
film than is done in the sixties. They yeah, yeah, yeah, Banks.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
So Bang the Drum Slowly came out the year it
was nineteen seventy three, so I guess, oh, wait a minute,
Oh I got it backwards, So nineteen seventy three, and
so I guess it came out two years later than this. Okay, fine,
So he does let Scare Jessica to Death first, and
then Bang the Jump Slowly, But okay.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But I was thinking like the late eighties or something.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Oh no, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, it's a it's
still in the kind of the same timeframe. But but anyways, yeah, no,
I'm very excited about Let's Scare Jessica to Death? And
how many copies do they make? Okay, eight thousand. I
have a hunch that these eight thousand are going to
fly off the shelf, hope, so for them, and then
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there's those, so that completes the month, so for them.
For the main line, if you have a subscription with
Vinegar Syndrome, do you have a subscription? Yes, okay, yeah,
so you're getting five movies and they're all pretty big movies.
I mean, like this is a there's no yeah, even Romero,
even the Dark Half. This is something that came out
(21:43):
in nineteen ninety three, so I mean he was already
a huge name at this point.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
For Romero was yeah, but we get four movies in
the subscription. The Golden Child is Vinegar Syndrome Ultra.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. Okay, I do
get I sometimes I look over that.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
So Vinegar Syndrome Ultra is that one and then we
get the other ones that were released this time was
the remake of Breathless, not to go dared Breathless, but
the Richard Guere nineties remake.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
I hate to repeat myself, but that is also something
I have never seen.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, I haven't seen it either, and I don't I
don't know that I have a strong interest in this one.
If I'm being honest.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
People tell me that, yeah, you shouldn't see it. It's
an eighties movie, it's great. And then I said that, okay,
maybe I will give it that sanche and I ordered
this Cinematocraft four K of Breathless because it was released
by Fantasy to Editions. I don't know, was it two
years ago something, and it sold out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of in the same boat
as you. I got it, and I'll watch it, and
I'm ready to be surprised by it. I don't know,
I'm not super excited going in.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And I also got Criminally Insane two.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
That one I'm excited about.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
I'm ready to be blown away.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
That one, I'm excited about it. So that's the new
Degausar title, and Criminally Insane one was put out on
the mainline as part of the double feature. Yes, but
this movie, what's the other name for it?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Fat?
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Yeah, crazy fat. I just I just love this description.
Three years after going on a bloody food related killing spree,
gluttonous Ethel Janofski is deemed fit to return to society.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Nicko mollarg is a director who's getting some more attention recently,
and I'm very happy about that because his his SLV
stuff is wild and highly entertaining, so I'm happy he's
getting some love.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Yeah. I didn't even know that this Crazy Fat at
all had a sequel, but Craig to learn new things
and somehow.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's going to get tied into the Marvel universe.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah. The cinematic universe is crazy Fat.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
There's so that's the Gausser and Cinematograph and then Vinegar
Syndrome Labs has Charlie One Eye, which I'm really curious
to see what people say about this one. So have
you have you seen this one?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Or no? This is a very haven't And this interests
me very much because it's starring Richard crown Tree and
it's made in the early seventies, so, and it's a
Western and it's a British film, so not many British
Vesterns were made, and also starring Richard crown Tree. Maybe
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this is somehow connected with the blaxploitation wave of that year.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah, so this is an interesting one because you know,
like a lot of the like, there's there's a there's
an area of Spain where a lot of the spaghetti
westerns were shot. I guess for budget reasons. Maybe it
was cheaper to shoot there, I don't know, but or
maybe it was just looked more like the American West.
But this they actually went there and shot in that area.
So this is a movie shot in Spain, extremely violent,
(25:40):
very racial, and the content is very racial, and it's
sort of they call it like an anti Western a
little bit. I haven't seen this movie, so I don't
want to pretend like I have, but I know about
it because this is one of those movies that I
think people cite as being an important watch, like an
important you know, there's an important discussion to be had
(26:02):
from the movie. So it's very interesting that they're putting
this out. I think the special features on this I
cannot wait.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, but to me this is also this also sounds
very interesting to me. Especially if you said that it's
very violent western. So I'm loving it already.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, those are the magic words. Fore, No,
it's good, it's yeah. I mean, well, I don't know
for sure, but it's I've heard about this movie for
a long time and it's I think violent, maybe in
the same way that Sam Peckinpaw is violent, where it's
more like yeah. So anyways, I love it, and I
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love very very excited for this one from Vinegar Syndrome.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
And then they put out a sequel, so they were
teasing a trilogy of movies coming out from Hong Kong.
Vinegar Syndrome market. Yeah, and this, this trilogy of Iron Angels,
I cannot wait to dig into.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah. I have not seen any of these. And I'm
a fan of Hong Kong actions cinema. And this goes
to that time slot, that much magical time slot late eighties,
early nineties when the action movies were very very good,
you know when they when they brought from Hong Kong,
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these films. So eagerly looking forward in seeing this.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah, and it's and you know these movies when you
watch them, if you didn't know that it was a
female director for all three of them. I think nobody
would ever guess, and just because if you have any
preconceived notion about what a female director would bring to
a movie like this, it this just blows it out
of the water. Like they're very violent, there's a ton
(27:57):
of action, there're at the pace is very quick. They're
they're just they're great, Like they're just great action movies.
The interesting you will you have seen them for the
first one, the first one, Yeah, okay, And I mean
I'm sure this, I mean, we'll see. I'm sure the
sequels are the same, but we'll see, I guess. But
(28:18):
they're just it's just a very quick like the movie
feels quick to watch it, you know, it's never really boring. Yeah,
I love it. This is a This is the one
I can't wait to dig into that. I saw it
under the title Fighting Madam, not not Iron Angels, but
I've seen the movie anyways.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You know, many people complain that B s A should
be like we say American and or we say action,
which it is, but most of most of the films
are action moves. But it stands for wine Syndrome Archive.
But I not necessarily don't complain when they do Hong
Kong moves if they are good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yeah, I'm trying to think, has there been under the
under the VSA line. Has there been a Hong Kong
movie that you didn't like? If not to put you
on the spot, but I liked the most of the
ones they put out.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Yeah, what was that? Did you see the one with
the fireman? The fuck the Hong Kong Fireman? Oh it
was a Chinese movie. Wait a second, let's see.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
You're not talking about Love on Delivery, are you?
Speaker 3 (29:29):
No? No?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Oh Lifeline Lifeline, Life, Lifeline, Lifeline.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Okay, you like that? No, I didn't. I honestly think
that that that doesn't belong in the VSA series. It
was an action movie. It's like a like a very
melodramatic drama movie, which its own self was kind of
funny because when you're compared to the Western movies, you
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can find so so over over acted scene of.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Drama, dramatic moments, right right, right right. Yeah, that was
a Johnny Toe movie. I'm a little bit of a
homer for Johnny Toe, but that's not one of my
favorite movies from him.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
I agree with you on that.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
And usually no matter if it's a v s A
or regular arena Gacrian Dromeline. I don't think that if
they put out films that are, you know, above the
two thousands, then there's gotta be a very good reason
for it.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Oh. In my opinion, I'm sure if they were on
the on here, they would just say it's they were
just excited to put out a Johnny Toe movie. Maybe yeah,
but but yeah, no, I see what you mean. That
one maybe doesn't fit the line as well, because the
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month before that they put out The Instructor, which is
just kind of fun and crazy in all the best ways.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
That's that's exactly what I am expecting from vs A.
That is the like May that's the lifeline of VSA.
The instruction is so incredible and I have actually this one.
I have actually seen many times. I have the VHS
Old Finish VHS, and we used to watch this as
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a kid, like a for example of very bad movie,
which is it is, which it.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Is, but but bad in the best way is possible
and in the best way possible. It's it's so bizarre
at places, and the end and chase sequence.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
I think it takes like almost third of the movie.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, they put the movie around that final chase sequence
for sure.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Yeah, there is.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
There's a movie that I was just watching for Vinegar Syndrome.
Oh oh well, okay, this is maybe a good segue
to talk about the April releases because there's a really
funny chase sequence in one of those two. Okay, and
we'll be quick because I know you have to go soon,
but I just wanted to spend some time on these
Halfway to Black Friday movies because honestly, like I know,
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people are a little bit you know, the people that
have been collecting Vinegar Syndrome for twenty years or whatever
now this fifteen years, are a little bit down on
the direction they're going because they want the porn and
they want the more like you know, bloody action movies
and that kind of stuff. And I totally get it.
I do get it. But I'm happy for Vinegar Syndrome
(32:43):
because the way that I'm seeing it now, they have
these Black Friday events and then the Halfway to Black
Friday and then the Valentine's Day. They have these like events,
you know, these big events. Oh, Subscriber Week is one.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yes, I don't think nobody ailse does like tato oh,
Severn has sales, but it's not not an event in
the same sense.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
True, yeah, yeah, no, sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Row Video does sales, but it's not it's not something
that builds up, builds up, and when you're building these
things up, like major events, there's gotta be people who
are always disappointed, right right, right, yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
But I mean if they if these if Subscriber Week
halfway and then the actual Black Friday, if those can
fund the company because they're selling so much, you know,
during these events, then they get to have months like
February where they put out a little bit lesser known movies,
like one of my favorite ones of the year has
been The Carpenter.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Carpenter, Yeah, that was fun one.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh it's great, and like, I love That's that's kind
of in my mind what I want from vinegar syndrome,
right me.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Too, That is like a type example of Winnegars.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Yes, and so if they can sell ten thousand copies
of Dirty Work and pay for five more movies like
like The Carpenter, than great. I love it. But April
for me was a month that I really I thought
it was great. So have you seen Murder Rock the
Nesting and double Doll. Have you seen all of those?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
I have, Okay, I have, just just for the sake
of time. What was Are there any that you really
loved or like, you know, how was the month for you? Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Okay? Not my favorite month to be to be very fair,
previous month was in my opinion, much better where they
came out with table Feeders and Brimstone and Triaco. But here, okay,
I love fool Sea whereas the next guy. But I
think Murder Rock is definitely not his best work. It's
(35:00):
kind of like a I love the idea of killer
in a dance school and you know, putting these eighties
songs playing, and you know, it's like a typical slasher example,
but it only boils down to the cup being comes
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to the school and trying to solve the case. And
it didn't work for me. The nest thing in my video,
I already said that, oh my god, this is like
two hours long, and it was. It had its moments,
It had its moments, but kind of overwhelming duration of
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the fels.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Okay, so really quick. I love the nesting though, because
I love one of my favorite like guilty pleasures, I
guess is movies that really you can tell they didn't
have a studio coming in and editing them, like they
just they're either too long or they have bad shit ideas.
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Like The Nesting has that chase sequence that looks like
something from Looney Tunes right in the middle of it,
and I just love it. Like I don't know, I
have a self spot for movies like that where the
tone doesn't always match up. Like it's kind of it's
like an imperfect movie.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You know, I say what you mean, I what you mean,
but I think that you know, it's kind of like
how that house thing is played so often that it
rarely gets me excited. Yeah, but hey, if we talk
about devil though, Hey, that was a surprising title. I
(36:42):
had never even heard about that. I have heard Lindsay Sean,
the British Canadian director who made the Double Ow films,
the Bond films, that the Pond parody films. I don't
remember why, Licensed to Love and Kill and stuff. But
(37:03):
things were a black and white movie, and especially this
Devil doll mm hmm. It was very like atmospheric, little
like a very little little horror movie. Yeah, and the
duration wasn't too long, did you watch that Devil Doll.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Oh yeah, I did. I think for me. One interesting
tidbit is the lead actor in that movie went on
to create the Criterion Collection.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I I also already. I also watched
the was it the Keen Newman or the other guy?
Shames Drower? Who is that drover? Stephen Drower s? Yeah,
he put out this interesting little nugget of information. I
didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
So I was kind of laughing. I wonder if if
that guy is sort of like mad that this movie
is coming out. I don't know if he wants to
be connected to it. But I think the movie is great.
It's fun, like it's a fun like you said, it's
good atmosphere. That doll is creepy, and I like I
like the way that they show it walking like it's
a It's pretty good effects considered the.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Low budget kind of home thing.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very much like Chucky. I
think in terms of like a like a proto Chucky. No.
I like Devil Doll quite a bit. Curse of the
Voodoo was it was awful. It was atrocious.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, I completely agree. I got white Hunter in a
Jungle comes back to England and the curse follows humans
and you have seen that so many times.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
But I was laughing because you know, nowadays people have
certain like sensibilities that didn't exist in the sixties, right,
and you really can't make the hunter the hero nowadays.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, no, absolutely not. Yeah, you somebody in today was
definite to say that this film is why racist.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yes, I mean, I don't want to talk about spoilers,
but I was just laughing so hard when he killed
this tribe of people that's trying to protect the lion,
and then the movie celebrated the fact that this tribe that.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
Exactly exactly what a weird picture.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
The only thing I'll say from the month is that
I am a huge sucker for trauma movies, so anytime
we get something like Igor and the Lunatics coming out,
for me, that's a huge win. I know that's a
VSA title. I actually think that's a really weird one
to put out in VSA. I wish that would have
been a mainline title, but I agree, yeah, yeah, yeah,
(39:48):
But I love that that Igor came out because that's
a really I love that movie. Even even though I
understand that people don't like it, I understand why but
I have like a soft spot for it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, I think that film. I watched it for the
first time. I think it has lots of potent potential
that is kind of lost in all these other nonsense
like that. I don't remember how it was played, but
the mother like finding her son and then it kind
of focuses on ten and I don't know why. But
(40:22):
do you know that in the same year a lot
better movie was made from the kind of same topic. Okay,
which one in nineteen eighty five? Thsalt Not Killed? Except
have you seen that one? Say it again? Those those
alt not killed?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Except no, I haven't seen that.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
It's great, it's great, it's.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
As except Okay, I'll have to go look it up.
But it's a similar type of theme.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, it is like these old marines that Vietnam veterans
against hippies in a small town. That's awesome. I was
directed by what is it, Scott Speaker. Oh wow, So
it's like a but it is starting some rain.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Wow, Okay, interesting? And Sam Raimi plays the military or
the hippie.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
No, no, he plays a hippie leader. That's that is
exactly that. Quite a wild one.
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Okay, I have to have to find that. Yeah, I
haven't seen that one before. That's a great tip, thank you.
I guess. Then we have to just at least talk
briefly about I mean, drops On for me is fine.
It's it's it's a fine, It's fine.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Uh. I always always complained this, but the movies need
to be shorter, they need to be a little because
I think dropped some most serious problem. It kind of
drags in the second act.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
No willis why is it so long?
Speaker 3 (42:08):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
It's think almost too, it's like an hour forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (42:11):
Yeah, yeah, ninety minutes. I think it's a pretty brilliant,
brilliant I.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
Mean, okay, So I was laughing because I think the
premise of the movie is just kind of funny because
it's basically like a Fast and the Furious movie, but
with parachuoters. Yeah right, they have these like clubs. They
get together and they like compete against.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Each other, and basically it's like a beat by b
to rip up from the earlier film then point break.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes exactly. So I was
I enjoyed it from that angle of seeing, just kind
of like, oh, this is like a silly sort of
a detour from like you know, like there's no reason
for this movie to exist. But yeah, it was too long.
It needed to be at least fifteen twenty minutes shorter.
Then it's like type the packs of tight punch. But
(42:59):
then just lastly, we have to talk about Last Tango
in Paris a little bit. So, yeah, did have you
seen it before this?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
No? I had not, And that film has quite a
reputation in philand I think it originally it was banned,
like in many countries it was banned, but we get
the VHS and all that, but I still I never
had seen it, and now I watched it, and yeah,
(43:27):
very interesting, interesting movie. Lots of different level levels in
that that film. Mm hmm. That will require a couple
of times to rewatch it.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Well, I'm a I'm a huge fan of this guy,
Bernardo Berlucci, in the sense of the way he's like
a visual director, right, so his movies always look beautiful
and they do it and this one does yeah, exactly.
Some of the shots in this film are just breadtaking,
I think, and even even in a room, there's just
(44:01):
the way he uses color and shadow and like it's
just very much like almost like spend like this kind
of with the way that they shoot like a contrast
in a scene.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Mm hmm, So totally agree with you.
Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, so I think, like, for me, this movie is
amazing actually, and it's it gets a lot of controversy
because of some of the rape in it, and.
Speaker 3 (44:27):
That's hardly made the main point of the film.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
Exactly and honestly speaking the way that it's see, Like,
I think it has to be done in a way
where if the movie is about the rape and like
celebrating rape, okay, that's bad.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
I don't think this was doing at all that.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Like he's a he's a completely broken character. He never
portrayed as somebody who is like a morally superior person
or like like he's doing the right thing. That's never
portrayed that way. And I don't know, like I think
the movie that both characters have enough flaws that you
get to see like the nuances of their character, and
(45:10):
I think the movie is great. And they actually get
to talk to Bertolucci, which is amazing. So yeah, anyways,
it's a very European movie, you know.
Speaker 3 (45:21):
Yes, one might think that this is like some sort
of like a sleazy sex movie. But not at all.
It's just a realistic European, like a New French way
of seeingema, true cinema made for.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
Adults exactly, not necessarily adult movies, which is the mellow
scene line. Yeah that movies made for adults.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Yeah, I don't know why where I'm getting at.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
No, I completely agree that, and most of Berta Lucci's
movies are like that. There's a movie. Well anyways, that's
the way he thinks and acts and directs. I was very,
very happy to see this, and I can't wait to
dig into the special features on this one as well.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
And I think I watched some of them, But what's
there like an hour long interview This kind of it's
very exhausting, especially if if the language is some other
language than for me, if Finish, Stan or English. Because
I don't understand other languages, so I cannot simply just
(46:27):
listen to them. I have to read the subtitles, and
that means that I have to actually be watching.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
It right right, right, right, very It's not like having
in the background or something.
Speaker 3 (46:38):
Yeah, yeah, you many many times I watch extras. For example,
before we started to record this, I listened to some
of those pail writer extras on Clint Eastwood's career or something.
I listened to my headphones on and yeah, that's the way.
A great way to you know, get some background noise
and even learn something from some As a.
Speaker 2 (47:01):
Separate note, just as we as we kind of wrap
up here, you know, I think for me, like I
wish that companies will put their special features on YouTube
or something, on some podcast or something, because it's it's
even a commentary. It's an amazing way to if you're
traveling and you just put it on like a podcast.
You don't actually have to be watching the movie. I mean,
you just hear the way they talk about it, and
(47:23):
it would be perfect.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
I think I have done many times that when I'm
working with my IT stuff, I on a comment theory. Yeah. Yeah,
Currently I'm mostly working at home, so it's easy for
me to put on a commentary of whatever.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Right, well, Willly, this is great, Thank you so much
for doing this.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
This was again, this was a nice experience and always
a pleasure to talk to somebody with also a pleasure,
you know, like a track affection for Winnegar syndrome.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Yes, I think you're carrying the flag for Europe as
as far as I'm concerned, I try to at least publicly.
I mean, it's amazing your channel. I really can't encourage
people enough to go check out your channel because you
bring a lot of energy and passion and just deep
deep knowledge. I mean, who knows tens of thousands of
movies you've seen at this point in your life?
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Oh too many? Definitely too many. But it's fun.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Yeah, there's a discovery that happens. I think today the
way that this episode went today is a good reflection
on this. Vinegar Syndrome helps in the discovery process, which
I think is one thing I've always loved about them.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
I meant to say that about the same thing that
the one thing that grows made to Vinegar Syndrome, even
though always they are not the best movies ever, but
you know, tennest thing, I have never seen that Ego
and the lunatics have never seen that, and now coming
movies that there was quite a few of those. I've
never seen that. So I considered myself that I have
(49:05):
seen a lot of movies, but mine Concerndrome. They put
out this product that don't necessarily be like a major sellers, right,
but there are most certainly a good like education of
B movies and underground movies. And that's the best thing ever.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
It is exactly awesome. Well WILLI thank you so much.
And you know, anytime you want to come back on
and talk about something you're excited about, even if it's
for ten minutes.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
You're welcome. Let's do it again. It's good.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Good, we will thank you, Okay.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Thanks, bye bye, Thank you Bill. That was great. I
love it.
Speaker 2 (49:51):
I love any conversation with him, and I do hope
he's able to come back. So yeah, I think we're
gonna as far as the Black Friday or the halfway
the Black Friday sale goes. You know, there's some merch.
If there's any particular merch that you wanted me to
(50:11):
talk about, like I was kind of laughing at the
Orgie butter that they put out over on the Melou
Scene site. If there's any particular merch you want me
to talk about, let me know. I did order the
cinematograph mug, the coffee mug. It was too cool to
pass up, and I happened to kind of collect coffee mugs,
so that was like, you know, I talk about not
(50:33):
buying a lot of merch and that's true, but I
do always look through it and that's one I couldn't
pass up on. Yeah, I can't wait to get into
Partner Month so June. I don't know if it'll come
out exactly June first because we've done a couple episodes
back to back here, but early June we'll do an
episode looking at the partner announcements, and then mid June
(50:57):
i'll have hopefully i'll have the ability to talk about
the May releases, but if I don't have them in yet,
then we'll use mid June to probably do a Partner
label focus uh and do a deep dive on one
of the labels. So anyways, y'all, thanks so much for
sticking around. This is episode twenty in the books. Please,
(51:18):
I always say this, let me know if there's anything
you're not hearing that you want to hear more, and
otherwise see you online.
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