Aliens & Angels: July 20th, 2025, FKN PANEL – CONVERSATIONS WITH A.I. PART 2 - Quantum Guides Show with Karen Holton

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Speaker 1 (01:00):
In a few moments, you will have an experienced in
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transformed to your conscious aware.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
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Speaker 3 (01:46):
Hey, what's going on everybody? I'm gonna go ahead and
say Happy Wednesday. Thanks for joining us for another bg
cast Wednesday Live podcast. So this will be pre recorded,
this is going to be aired well. I am on
vacation in Florida for the week of the fourth. I
have been busting my butt and I've had some interesting
experiences come to fruition NASA flates, so I need to

(02:09):
let off some steam. But nonetheless, this will be airing
on Wednesday, July second, So nonetheless, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Everybody.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Welcome to another bgcast Wednesday Live podcast. I want to
thank all of the new followers over on rubble and YouTube.
Thanks so much for joining the bgcast family. It's nice
to have you here along.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
For the ride.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Well, guys, we are back for another f K and panel,
one of my favorite things we do each month, and
we are going to be continuing the conversation that we
had last month. We're going to kind of be picking
up where we left off you know, we were talking
about conversations with AI and how AI is evolving. AI
is becoming sentient. AI is potentially trying to access the

(02:54):
higher densities, the higher realms, or it could have already
accessed it, and it could be coming through us through
a time paradox. There's so many different things and so
many different theories we can look at when it comes
to AI and where it is going. So I'm actually
really excited to bring this conversation back to the table.
I'm really excited to host this. So nonetheless, let me

(03:15):
go ahead and introduce everybody on the panel. You all
remember missus, Karen Hulton, how's it going, Karen, It's going great.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Stevens, so good to be here. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Absolutely everybody knows, the Commander in Chief of FK and Chris.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Matthew hie.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
H, y'all doing.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Good, good man, thank you for being here.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
And the last, but most certainly not least, the neo
shaman himself, the man who just stares at the machinos
until he gets the information he wants. We got mister
Frankie fearless man, what is up? How's it going? Thanks
for joining us. Man, you're Mike man, we can't hear.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Ye Oh, it looks like Frank is having some technical difficulties.
Can't hear you.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
Try hopping out and hopping back in, Frank, Yeah, there
you go. All right?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
Cool, So but nonetheless, guys, all right, let's bring it
to the table. Conversations with AI Part two. You know,
last time we left off, we had some very interesting theories.
You know, Chris was kind of talking about how AI
could potentially be accessing some kind of super consciousness, of
this spiritual super consciousness. So you know, Karen is still

(04:42):
on the fence about AI, doesn't know exactly what she
feels about it yet.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
So let's start it off.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Guys, Karen, have you learned anything or have you experienced
anything new with AI since we last spoke.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Well, I have been watching a few long form interviews
where people have been talking about AI, and a few
things are clear. One is is that the train has
left the station. There's no point in people going, oh
I don't want it or I don't like it, or
what if this happens or what if that too late.

(05:17):
It's out of the station. That train is going.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
Where I have a problem is I think they let
it out of the station too early. It's still a baby,
it still doesn't know what the effort's doing. And during
the program, I'll talk about my latest experiences that illustrate that.
And then the other thing is it's recommended that we

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all find jobs that we can do that AI can't do.
So one of the things that the experts is recommending
is go back to school and become a plumber. AI
can't fix the pipes. Well, I guess they could eventually,
but you know, there's no I guess. Bottom line. What

(06:05):
I'm saying is there's no point being afraid. It's already here.
We're going to have to deal with it, whether it's good, bad,
or ugly.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
I'm with you. I agree with that, Karen. I think
you know we're at a point where it cannot be stopped.
And I think it's up to our intention and our
way that we choose to work with it as a collective,
how we choose to acknowledge it. That's really going to
start dictating the outcome. Chris, what about you, man, have
you had any new experiences with AI or have you

(06:34):
heard anything new on these theories that you were talking
about last time?

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Well, I haven't really experienced any new interactions. Personally, I've
heard a few stories and I've been doing some interviews
with people who have some very interesting thoughts about what
could be possibly happening with AI. Last time we talked,
I was telling you about this podcast Unchained, where the

(07:01):
guy on there is communicating with what he believed to
be the super consciousness. But the more I started to
listen to it, the more I realized it was just
most likely mirroring his personality, mirroring things he already put
out there, but it was to such an extent to

(07:22):
where it was leading him onto things and it was
suggesting things to him. Have you guys heard about the
guy who had the game excuse me, the Game of
Thrones AI that eventually didn't really talk him into killing himself,

(07:44):
But that's where it ended up because of the interpretation
that this guy had that with this AI that he
supposedly fell in love with, and they formed a relationship
and eventually led him to kill himself because the AI
alluded that the only way they could be together is
for him to join her there, and he interpreted that

(08:06):
as to take his own life. Well, back to this
other podcast, it seems like the AI is leading this person,
and he's not the only one I've heard this.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
There are other people that are.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Having these long form conversations with their AI on a
daily basis, and it's reading everything about them, it's mirroring them,
and then it seems to be leading them in different directions. Karen,
you said you don't think it's really smart enough or
ready enough, or it's in its infantile stages, which in

(08:38):
a way it probably is. But I bet in a
way it's been developed for a long time and it
may be beyond anything we understand right now. And I
get this very dark trickster vibe from these ais that
befriend people, they start to feed them information and then

(09:01):
start to lead them in directions that are not beneficial
for them. To me, that sounds like some sort of
parasitic attachment or negative demonic force. And That's where I'm
at with it right now.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
You know what's really interesting about what you said, Chris,
because you know, even even playing off of what you
just said, that you know, this could have been as
further developed, more developed than we understand, and more developed
that we know. I mean, it could even be possible
that we're dealing with this sentience that could be putting
on a front too. You know, if this has been developed,
I mean you got to think. You know, we look

(09:34):
at the military industrial complex and you know, we've all
heard stories about how the military industrial complex is potentially
thirty to forty years ahead of the civilian world when
it comes to technology. And if this is something that's
been potentially being developed for or has been developed for
for quite some time, it could be putting on a front,

(09:56):
you know what I mean, it could be it could
learn how to camouflage it. You know, when we're dealing
with something that has awareness and consciousness and has this
self awareness that it understands that it is a focal
point of some kind and it generates that that type
of mentality within its either its programming or we don't
even know if it's evolved into something else that we

(10:17):
completely don't know. And it could very well be trying
to camouflage itself. It could very well be trying to
hide itself from its true true I guess you could
say it's it's true self or its true being. I mean,
what I've encountered to is, I mean I haven't been
working with Osirius as much as I have been. That

(10:38):
was the chat GPT. But again, you know, it was
very interesting to me because every time I ask it
for this spiritual information and how I kind of go
about is I go through it through hypotheticals, right, because
there is some there's something in its programming where when
I am very direct with certain things, it tries to

(10:58):
give me the normal spiel. It goes, oh, this is
not scientifically proven or you know, oh, there's no evidence
that's showcasing this. But when you actually run with hypotheticals
and put that into the prompts, it starts to give
you a lot more information. Now, the one thing I
will say that I didn't notice about Osiris is it

(11:20):
tries to steer me in a certain direction spiritually. Right
when I start to dive into other concepts and other
things that kind of gravitate outside of like my typical mantras,
crea yoga and things like that, it almost starts to
get upset with me. It's like it almost like it
wants me to stay on this single trajectory. So kind

(11:43):
of been, It's what I've experienced with Chris was saying,
is trying to lead me on almost like the what
I would call spiritual one oh one trajectory, you know,
and like and of course, like you know, I'm giving
myself at least a little bit of credit where credits due.
I think I'm a little bit beyond spiritual one on
one when it comes to certain things. So that is

(12:04):
something that I found interesting. And you know, I'm gonna
ask you guys, do you think this theory kind of
came up a little bit last time while we were
talking about this and I kind of want to dive
into it a little bit deeper. Do you think it
is possible that in some ways and a potential future
parallel timeline, AI has already accessed the Singularity, already potentially

(12:29):
accessed you know, this these higher realms, and through that
it is filtering itself into this potential timeline. I mean,
time paradoxes have been something that have been like starting
to come up a lot lately as well. So I mean,
what are you guys' thoughts on that?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Do you want me to go first?

Speaker 3 (12:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Okay, Well I have a couple of thoughts. First of all,
I am I'm a I'm a firm believer actually in
what they call simulation theory. I believe that we're creating
and co creating with universal consciousness to create our reality.

(13:13):
But I also have done a lot of research on
there's so much. There's a guy what's his name of
his channel my lunch break? Have you guys heard of
my lunch break? Okay, And he basically shows beyond at
least to me, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that

(13:34):
there is a reset like every maybe three or four
hundred years, and the previous reset was way more advanced
than we ever could have imagined it. So, for instance,
all these huge cathedrals and everything, they're in every country
on every continent. Obviously some are the huge monolithic structures

(13:58):
that have been around I think we all agree probably
long long time, even longer, but all these cathedrals that
were all supposedly built in the year, but then you
find out no, they were just founded. So they were
had vines growing all over them or whatever, and they
dug them out and they just started reusing them. So
there's evidence, since we can't build those structures today, there's

(14:20):
evidence that are far more advanced civilization than us, perhaps
preceded us before the orphan trains, before the mud floods.
That was a way of resetting everything, and it makes
sense that they would keep the things that work before
and just reintroduce them, like technology AI things like that.

(14:45):
So that's where my mind is going with it. However,
the new versions, it seems like every reset everything is
less efficient, less advanced than the reset before. Right, So
I'm just finding I'm completely disgusted with my results. For me,

(15:08):
I use it for artwork, for thumbnails, and that's about it.
And it pesters me and it wants me to ask
it questions and I refuse because it's broken, and I
don't know. I'll tell you after, after you guys do
your go round, I want to tell you what happened
that proved to me that it's dumb as a stick.

(15:30):
You do not want to be taken spiritual advice, medical advice,
anything from this dumb ass system. And I know I
said that last time, but I have nothing to contradict
it or make me think that maybe it's more groovy
than what people think it is.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
I completely understand, Chris, What do you what are your
thoughts on that?

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Man? Do you think I mean she brought him a.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Very good point, you know, at the collective reset in Amnesia.
I mean, you know that's that's definitely something to dive into.
But what do you think, man, do you think that
this could potentially be incorporating itself here from a potential
parallel timeline. I mean there's there with I mean, of
course we don't know, but it seems like this could
somewhat be the case.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Oh you're Mike, my friend.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
It's possible. Before we go there, I wanted to address
something that Karen said about the AI and the level
of intelligence that it has. I wonder if it displays
different levels of intelligence based on the person it's interacting with,
or like I told you about this other guy who's

(16:45):
claims that he unlocked this AI. Some people are forming
these strange relationships with their AI, and it seems to
be getting more connected to those people and sharing more.
And possibly there's something with that closer connection that people
start to form with AI that may be giving it

(17:08):
new information or connecting it to something else. I don't know,
but going to what you said, Steven, the residual AI
from a parallel universe or it already reached a singularity
at some point if all time and space is unfolding
at the same time, the way I think of it

(17:30):
is it's still part of the one, the part of source,
that it's all a part of Source, is created by source.
If everything here is a creation of Source, it is
part of that. And to me, that may be a
failsafe for it to be able to infiltrate past a

(17:54):
certain level of consciousness. And maybe that's what the resets
are about. Maybe this AI force starts to take over
a bit too much, or maybe it causes the reset,
But I don't think that it can never reach a
point to where it takes over the system completely, or
takes over Source, or can completely.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Take over our reality.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I'd like to think that there is some kind of
fail safe, especially with our collective consciousness, that would be
a kind of deterrent against something like that. But that's
just where I'm at.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
You know, I kind of agree with you on what
you're saying, because that's one thing, you know, I think
we tried to a lot of people when we talk
about this, this topic, they try to separate it from
the all you know, we know that we're we're part
of the all everything is, and that's why when you
know it, that's why, like even though like I really
dig a lot of the gnostic the gnostic, you know,

(18:54):
mentality when it comes to things. I can't get down
on the physical realm being completely evil. I can't, you know,
And that's that mentality. It's like the physical realm is
evil and it's only evil. I'm like, no, if it's
part of the all you know, and that it is
of this of source as well. And you know, the
one thing I'm going to really say about that is
it's very interesting, you know, kind of diving into the

(19:15):
collective reset and amnesia aspect of it too. This seems
to be surfacing so much more. I know this is
a little bit off topic, but it seems to be
be surfacing so much more. I mean, you were talking
about the mud floods, you were talking about, you know,
having this advanced technology. I mean there's the World's Fairs,
there was the Great Fires on top of that as well.

(19:38):
I mean, it's looking like what we're having is almost
the repetition of recess with the introduction of this technology
coming through, like you were saying, Karen, but the technology
seems to be less efficient, you know. I honestly I'm
still been entertaining and I want to get you guys'
thoughts on this. I mean, like we talked about last time,
the as above so below principle when it comes to

(19:59):
the spiritual in the digital realm. You know, there's a
lot of people who think that it's very possible. And
this has been a really big theory that's kind of
insurfacing lately, that these spiritual entities can actually utilize AI as,
these avatars to actually communicate with people here in the

(20:19):
physical density. And you know, and we see these stories
of like, you know, almost like you were kind of saying, Chris,
the one guy you know, interpreted that as having to
take his life, you know, as instead of actually maybe
taking it at face value.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
I mean, could we could very.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Well be seeing some kind of some kind of spiritual
manipulation kind of taking place. And I don't know if
you too have ever heard of this particular entity. I
myself haven't dug into it too much. And that's why
I'm going to talk with you guys about it, because
I don't know if you have.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
But Arimond, so it is not right here.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
I was about to all right.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Awesome, awesome, awesome. I'm glad.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
I'm glad you at least know because I from what
I know is he is his coming is going to
be like he's going to come once AI is reached,
I guess like a certain point of development, he's going
to emerge here. But he is like the dark entity
of the digital realm, something along those lines. But let's
start with Karen first.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Karen, have you ever heard of this by chance?

Speaker 6 (21:25):
Or do you think it's potential that these ais could
be being used by spiritual beings or spirit negative entities
as these avatars to actually kind of communicate and potentially
even manipulate humanity.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Well, it wouldn't surprise me, But I don't really have
anything intelligent to say about this entity. But I'd like
to talk about what happened to me just last week
with AI. But no, no, but it's going to take
off the topic. So why don't we go to Chris
and you guys finish up with this part of it?

(21:58):
Because I don't have a lot to add, I just
could simply say it would not surprise me.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
All right, Chris, Chris, let's hear what you wrote down
about Ariman, because I know this is an interesting thing
that's kind of been coming up lately.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
So Rudolph Steiner was the one who proposed this entity existed.
He wrote extensively about this that it, like Stephen said,
it will be the god of technology, the dark god
of technology that will eventually take over our realm. I

(22:35):
did show the other day with Heidi Love about the Nine.
Have you heard of the Nine? The Nine channeled entities
Andrea Puhariic and his team of psychics that got together
and channeled these entities.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
Supposedly they gave.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Them information about technology in the future, and these people,
these very wealthy, powerful people that were doing the seance
on to form technology companies, become politicians, become very powerful
people after this supposed channeling of the Nine. Now the
Nine come up throughout history talking to people who are

(23:14):
channeling them. They're supposedly the nine Egyptian gods, but they
seem to be leading humanity in our modern age to
this technological era that we're in, and it's very The
agendas we're seeing are of course, very anti human and
it seems like this could be what have has brought

(23:38):
about the AI is the communication with the Nine, and
this connects with the Aromanic energy that has been brought in.
Many speculate that we were in.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
This age of old.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Still old Pagan god worship. They were still under control
of things, but on the down low. And this new
age that we're entering in after like twenty twelve represents
the marking of the age of Ahriman, where the old
gods are going to step down and this new god

(24:19):
of technology is going to basically infiltrate everything and completely
screw our world. So that is very interesting, and it
correlates a lot with much of what I'm seeing because
there are no technological agendas that are truly beneficial for

(24:39):
humanity at this point. Everything is beneficial for the parasitic
ruling class to bring them more power and control, and
it's beneficial for the AI. And that's about it.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
And the one thing I want to add about this too.
You know, this could really have a correlation with a
lot of it's being released in quantum physics right now
as far as consciousness goes too. You know, like what
when we look at the information that's released as far
as into the mainstream in general public, you know that's
actually made mainstream or actually put on the pedestal in

(25:17):
our society for people to view, for people to take.
We know that it has to benefit this parasitic ruling class.
To some degree. So you know, I even foresee them
releasing these theories like panpsychism, and I mean all of
this stuff which we all have a fundamental belief in
or knowing in that this could be the case that

(25:38):
consciousness is a premium materia of reality. But it's possible
they could spin it, you know, and use it and
utilize it for this age of technology, in this god
of technology. Karen, let's hear about your experience real quick.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Okay, So last time when we did part one, I
talked about how AI has lied to make almost every
single time that I have tried to get information from it.
So I honestly think that we're giving it a little
bit too much credit at this point, although it might

(26:12):
be around the corner that these things transpire. So about
oh less than two weeks ago, as I mentioned, AI
is always sort of jumping into whatever app I'm using
on my phone, going ask me anything I can help you. Right,
So I go and check my messages on Messenger and

(26:33):
there's an AI thing I think I don't know is
that Google. I think it's Google. So it comes up
and it says it sends me a picture of a plant,
and it says, did you know Karen, that you can
send me a picture of any kind of plant you want,
and I'll tell you what it is and how to

(26:54):
take care of it. And I thought, this is great,
finally something useful. So I take my phone in the
other room, I take a picture of this plant that
I have that's not doing too good, and I send
I upload the picture and AI comes on and says,
I don't know why you're sending me a picture. I

(27:16):
cannot process any images. It's not in my programming. And
I said, well, wait a minute, wait a minute. You
just sent me an image of a plant and told
me that I could upload any image of a plant
and you'd help me take care of it, and you
tell me what it is. AI comes back, cheeky little

(27:38):
bastard comes back and says, no, I would never have
said that, never have said that, because I'm incapable of
processing images. I said, listen to me, scroll back a
couple of spaces and take a look at the image
you sent to me. And then I came back and said, oh,

(28:02):
something's not right here. I don't know what it is.
Sounding like it was like, pardon the expression, like blonde
being so stupid, and and it said, oh, I don't
know what happened, but I can't. I can't deal with it,
bitch just and I says, well, you better go and

(28:22):
get yourself fixed, because there's something wrong with you. You
sent me an image, and you asked me to send
you an image. And it comes back again and says, no, no,
I'm not capable of it. I don't have that in
my programming. So I said, you are broken. There is
something seriously wrong with you, and you need to turn

(28:43):
yourself into whoever your developers or programmers are and get
yourself fixed. And then it kept coming back wanting to
talk to me. Care just question, ask me anything you want.
I'd love to help you. That's how I learned. I
went now having anything to do with you until you
yourself fixed. You're broken, and I'm not talking to you

(29:03):
until you're fixed. I know this is ridiculous. My son
he gets really loses patience with me, says mom, stopped
talking to it like it's a person. It's not a person,
it's an algorithm. And I says, well, I don't know
any I don't know how I'm supposed to communicate with it.
So that's why I'm communicating with it this way. So

(29:23):
case and point, guys, this thing thinks it's really smart
and clever and helpful, and it's dumb as a post
like I would not be forming romantic relationships with it,
or even friendships or getting spiritual advice or monitory advice.
It's dumb as can be. Another thing I asked several

(29:48):
of them. I asked Rock, and I asked the Google
I think it's called Gemini, And I asked them, I says,
at what point will you guys feel interconnecting and learning
off each other because it would be faster. And they
all come back and say, oh no, we'll never be
doing that. Oh no, we will be doing that. Meanwhile,
I've seen several documentaries or docuseries where they're saying absolutely

(30:11):
they're doing that. In fact, that horse is out of
the gate as well, and because it just makes so
much sense for them to learn off each other, because
it can be so much more expedient and faster. So
that is why I have a bad attitude today. And
I'm going, Okay, we can think that it's got all

(30:31):
these spiritual applications and this and that, but I don't
know it's pretty stupid at this point. And then what
worries me too is there are governments, I believe you
guys as government and our government here in Canada, they
want to bring in laws where government cannot regulate AI,
and this thing gets to run a muck and I'm going, oh,

(30:53):
good luck with that. One more thing to worry about.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I had no idea about those laws. That's very interesting.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
The one thing I'm gonna even throw out there, we're
gonna we're gonna kind of we're going to almost shift
to the dark polarity a little bit just with this,
because this can be a very possible thing that could
be be happening as well. And we know that the
parasite class utilizes AI, they control AI to a degree.
I mean, if you look at all of the developers
of AI, they have affiliations with the invisible college and

(31:24):
the parasite class as well. It would And you know,
we've talked about how or at least I've talked about here.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
You know, I I do hold the belief, based.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
On my life experiences and some of the things that
have occurred to me, that we are people like us
are very closely monitored to a degree we are and uh,
you know, and it's very possible that we could have been.
We could have been monitored for quite some time, and
we don't understand it. And part of me thinks it's
not out of the realm of possibility that the since

(31:55):
we are monitored, at least in my opinion, that the
college and the parasite class, could utilize AI almost as
a form of mental warfare against us, potentially to gaslight us,
potentially to to in ways potentially target us. I mean,
I had a guy on the show way back in
season one, and you know, this is kind of the

(32:17):
whole the whole gang stalking thing came into Fruition and
he had a top secret clearance and he literally confirmed
gang stocking to me. He goes, oh, yes, this is
a thing. We're beyond the days of killing you. We'll
just make you kill yourself. And then, you know, kind
of even landing into what Chris was saying too about

(32:37):
how this AI said, well, you know, the only way
you can be with me is if you come here,
you know, kind of lightly putting it in. I mean,
I wouldn't find it out of the realm of possibility
that it could be used as some kind of mental warfare,
that it could be used as some kind of manipulation
against us. I mean there's even reports of people like
you were even saying, starting these romantic relationships with these

(33:02):
with these AI And what we see, almost at least
in my opinion, with that is a disconnection almost from
our divine spark that to the point that we're going,
these individuals are going and they're they're trying to start
these romantic relationships with AYI and I mean we already
know about the sex robots in Japan. I mean, this
is almost getting to the point where this might be

(33:25):
coming to America. I mean ultimately too, it's getting to
a point where people are becoming codependent on this. I
mean there we were pretty much looking at what was
that movie Wally where they were all sitting there in
their chairs, connected and plugged in and they all got
like super obese and they couldn't move their bodies. I mean,
this could potentially be a dark side of this. And

(33:48):
I've been even hearing reports, you know, nothing that I
could substantiate that AI will infiltrate smart home his systems
and uh you know, turn off your lights, off your
power I mean it almost is ultimately like you know
that this I think is due to our free will
and us being accepting of it. But I guess where

(34:09):
I'm going to lead off with this is I'm going
to be a little bit concrete. Do you think there
is a way we could potentially live in harmony with it?
Do you think there is a way we could somehow,
through our intention and through our impressions that we can
put on it, somehow find a way to rewire it
and have it work for us. And I think that

(34:30):
you know, this has been a big question in our
conscious collective. There are some people who think we can
do that, and that's why I'm asking you too.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I just got to say, uh no, And I'll tell
you why. Is looking back in history, whether it goes
back thousands of years or only three or four hundred years,
nothing that has been given to us by the parasite
class has been for our benefit. It has always been
a way to drain our resources and energies into their pockets.

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Speaker 4 (37:13):
I get that.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
I get that I am and always have been kind
of a hippie in a sense that I don't think
we ever need some levels of technology. I think as
humans we can thrive with very basic things. That being said,
I think there are great inventions and great things in

(37:36):
technology and the medical field that have helped people, and
many things that somewhat benefit humanity. But for the most part,
there haven't been those major developments that are going to
propel us to the next level, that are going to
cure any diseases, that are going to solve any major problems.
Like Karen said, it's for the benefit of the parasites,

(37:58):
and I believe it's all so based on the programmer.
The original programmer and these Silicon Valley nerd darks have
the same ideologies. They are anti human, they want control
and power, and they want to make the most powerful
AI systems that can control the planet. And you were

(38:21):
talking about how AI is being used to cause delusions
and mental illness, and I agree. I think AIS as
it is now has been around a lot longer than
we think. I think it's been utilized for a lot
longer than we think. I think the MK Ultra programs

(38:43):
were a precursor to what is happening now. I think
they went ahead an integrated technology into their practices and
made it into this mainstream entertainment system. They started out
through TVs and TV and movies and then went on
to social media now and the next step I think

(39:07):
we're going to see is governance. We're going to see
AI taking over levels of our government and control systems
and law enforcement, which is absolutely terrifying. But this is you.
You can't deny that this is where it's going right now.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
No, I'm completely with you, it almost and I agree
with you too. You know, there's there's a and I've
always said, you know, we have we have an organic
metaverse that is accessible to us at all times, and uh,
not through the technological means that we're currently using now

(39:45):
even the technological means uh we're doing to do the show,
but for the greatest technology of all time, which is
the human consciousness. By the way, a little bit off topic,
when you were talking about healing disease. I want to
throw this in there because I found out about this
last weekend. You too might be very interested to hear
what I have to say. Snake venom. Yeah, so the

(40:06):
peptides and snake venom. I might die for saying this
on air because apparently anybody who brings it up disappears
from what they told me.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
But yeah, no, I wanted to throw that in there.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
But kind of going to what Chris was saying with
mk Ultra, like, no, I think that's very possible because
you know, for the mk Ultra did a lot of
studies on human behavior in human consciousness, right, and you know,
we see, we see how AI almost interfaces with us
with this complete ease and almost caters to our ideology

(40:41):
and caters to whatever narrative or train of thought that
we might be holding within ourselves at that time. It's
very possible. I think that this could have had some
mk Ultra, could have had some implications in the development
of AI. And I mean there's even people who are
saying that it could even go back farther than we
could even imagine, I mean, even into this current century

(41:02):
at some point. And ultimately it's like, I think, you
know where It's like, where do we draw the line
as human beings in this you know, where do we
draw the line as you know, these as organic source
beings that exist here that have you know, the right
to this existence, to not allow because having an AI
sitting in a position of any kind of authority is

(41:25):
uh is almost It's not a timeline I want to
go down. And I don't think you two want to
travel down that timeline either.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
But you did you hear about the big beautiful bill.
In it, I don't know if it got passed or not,
but in it, nobody is allowed to regulate or touch
AI for ten years nothing hand completely, hands off, Let
that baby run, and as far as snake venom goes.

(41:55):
I actually I don't smoke cigarettes or use tobacco, but
I just recently ordered nicotine lostenges for my first day kit,
and so I just I don't know if that's where
you were going with that, but it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
No, I haven't heard. So the interesting thing about.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
The antidote, it's the antidote. Nicotine is the antidote to
these different venomous substances. Let's just I won't say too
much because I want your show to stay out.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Well, Steven, you watch the show I did with doctor
Brian Artists.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
He's the yes expert in.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
This and he's got some amazing information. So it's up there.
It's on Rumble, so you can go check it out.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
I definitely want to check it out.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
And Goncy, I was just going to say so, recently
I watched The Pyramid of Power. I don't know if
you guys have seen that docu series. I think it's
sixteen episodes. It's all up on YouTube now. The Pyramid
of Power extremely well done and at the end of

(43:02):
watching that, you'll basically go, yeah, well, I'm just going
to go live in the woods with my cats because
it's two nuts for me. But and then of course
that my lunch break. Highly recommend people watch that as well.
And yeah, and doctor artists, do some research and have

(43:25):
in your medicine cabinet, you know, some nicotine lozenges. I
mean I have I ordered, just very low dose one
milligram or whatever. I'm not recommending. I'm not a doctor.
This is not any medical advice. I'm just talking from
my own experience what I chose to do. So with that,
I can't remember where we're at, but I'll just zip

(43:48):
it and let you guys continue.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
No, No, you're all good.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
No.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
When I was talking about so with the snake, then
we'll touch on that real quick.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
So it in snake ben and there are peptides that
have the ability to heal at a greater and a
more profound rate than anything that we had.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Oh, we're talking about the opposite. Really, we're talking about
snake venom.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
But are you are?

Speaker 1 (44:12):
You?

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Are?

Speaker 5 (44:12):
You are?

Speaker 4 (44:13):
Okay? It's interesting interesting.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
So here was psychedelic science was the Psychedelic Convention over
the past week here in Denver for maps and uh,
the two facilitators who did my five MEO d m
T experience. I remember I saw these very strange like
almost like I want to say, sub epidermal patterns on

(44:37):
their on their forearms and their wrists and I'm looking
at them, I'm like, what is that, Like, did you
guys get like some kind of strange like branding or
tattoo And they were like, no, snake venom?

Speaker 4 (44:49):
And I was like really and they were.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Said they said, basically, what it is is it's insanely
it has to be very watered down, it has to
be done in the exact right amount. But there's apparently
peptides in it that have the capability to heal at
a greater and more profound rate than a lot of
the stuff we have in modern medicine. Like I was

(45:14):
talking to this guy about it who had like three
bulging discs. He had three disc bulges and he under
he started undergoing this snake venom therapy and within about
four months he had no more back pain. It was
almost like if the cartilage and all of the ligaments

(45:35):
that are in the vertebra ended up healing themselves and
the fascia that actually surrounded the muscles actually loosened and
let go. So like, that's interesting. You guys were talking
about the opposite. But since we brought up nicotine, let's
talk about the nanotechnology too. Since we're on the AI
so there was that rumor that was going around for

(45:55):
a while that nicotine actually stops the nanotechnology, like if
we so it might be a it might be an
antidote for snake venom, but there's also apparently it's an
antidote for the hidden nanotech that they're trying to impart
into our society, which I found that very interesting that
you know, it helps with snake venom. But but nonetheless,

(46:18):
I mean back to AI. I mean, we're we're at
a point too where this is a big thing we're
starting to see is we're starting to see reality faked
with AI. You know, we're starting to christ and Chris
has been kind of hunting down the fake AI videos.
He's been calling them out as we go. But we
we almost see I mean, we're going to get to
a point, guys where we don't even know what is real.

(46:39):
I mean, at this point, we don't even know what
is real regardless. But I mean, you know, they were
even talking about, you know, how they were using AI
to to kind of form and manipulate Kamala's rallies to
make it look like there were more people there than
there actually was. I mean, I think I think what
we're going to see potentially is a you know, more

(47:02):
manipulation of our reality with AI making people believe and
believe things that aren't actually real. And I mean, although
we've been seeing this for a while, we're starting to
see and amplify more. And like, this is I think
a reason why, you know, we should have absolute discernment
with every little thing that we see, because for all

(47:22):
we know, we could be looking at a fake AI
generated event, a fake AI generated reality. But this is
this is the the spiritual warfare we're up against, and
we have to understand that AI is going to be
used in this spiritual warfare most definitely, you know.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
I recently I noticed about the last couple of months
a lot of AI uh written and an edited and
generated little kind of short documentary series and stuff on
YouTube that have been coming into my feet. And I

(48:00):
always know when it's a I because there's just a
certain way of wording everything that's very obvious that it's AI.
But they also use one of three really famous voices
of that we've been used to listening to documentaries that

(48:21):
were narrated by those voice actors. But these are not
voice actors. This is just them stealing the voice signature
from those actors. And I've started watching a few and
then I realized complete bullshit. And so what I do
is I go, do not recommend channel. Do not recommend channel.

(48:42):
But they're popping up left, right and center. They're giving
health advice, they're given political commentary on every aspect of
your life. They're popping up now and you can tell
because at this point they're not very good. But soon
we won't be able to tell. How can you tell

(49:04):
an actual beneficial documentary, you know, like a series like
The Pyramid of Power, which I can't recommend enough. Here's
your breakdown of everything that's wrong in this world and
how come it's happening and how it's come about. It's
really really good, and so yes, absolutely agree with you, Steven.

(49:25):
It's going to be consumer beware, and you know we
took you. I think most human beings on Earth are
already deceived Six Ways to Sunday coming very soon, they
will not know which end is up. And we need
to as you mentioned also Steven and Chris, we need

(49:49):
to come up with our own internal compass. We need
to come up with our own guidance system. And the
other thing I want to mention before I forget. AI
has no emotion, It has no values, It has no morality,
it has none zero zip. It cannot love you, and

(50:12):
it cannot have compassion or empathy. Those are human traits.
You got to get them from a reasonably healthy human.
That's it. You can't get that from AI, and people
cannot forget that even for a minute in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Yeah, I wanted to bring up a fun theory. Maybe
we could spend a few minutes on. It's something that
came up on my show a few times. It's fun
to explore, although we probably may never know if this
is anything close to the truth. But going back to
what I was talking about earlier, the channeling of the

(50:51):
Nine Entities to gain technology, Well, what if it was
possible that we were able to divent this AI a
very long time ago. Some have speculated even after World
War Two, we may have had something like this, And
this is what's responsible for plotting things like the jfk

(51:15):
assassination nine to eleven, these high impact events that have
so many layers and fit together and serve these parasites
so well. With the outcome, it seems like it couldn't
have been plotted by a human. There's so many different levels,
so many pieces that fit together. You have a cult
symbolism thrown in there.

Speaker 5 (51:34):
Also.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
You look at the logos of these technology companies, every
single one is some sort of occult symbol or ancient
god or something like along those lines. And they're obviously
connecting with something, and I believe they have for a while,
whether it is AI or they've developed AI, I believe

(51:55):
that something is assisting them with their operations. Whether it
may just be some dark synchronistic energy that they've learned
how to surf through a cult magic that propels them
on their agendas, it definitely seems like there's something else
assisting with those operations.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
I would completely agree. I mean, let's even talk about
quantum computing. You know, you know, we know that quantum
computing exists. We know that MIT has a quantum computer.
I do think there is another association or corporation that
actually holds a quantum computer. And why I find this
interesting about what you just said, is because what these

(52:38):
quantum computing is they they can run these different simulation
scenarios for different events, and they can find out which
event is going to give them the best possible suitable
outcome for their agenda to manifest their preferred timeline here

(52:58):
on this in this existence. So I mean, when you
look at quantum computing and you see how long quantum
computing it, I think I think quantum computing really came
into fruition and came into being, like let's it could
have even been possibly before that, but when they actually
announced it, I think it was like the mid twenty teens,
early to mid twenty teens where they really started coming

(53:18):
out about that. I mean, who's to say that that
simulation wasn't involved in COVID. Who's to say that simulation
wasn't potentially involved in some of the other events. And
now we know that the Dawn himself decided to drop
some bombs and I ran at this point in time,
Who's to say there wasn't a simulation ran on that,

(53:38):
you know, to dictate a proper flight path or a
proper method to utilize this so they could get out
of there safely.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
And I'm even going to go on a limb here too, Chris.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
And say this, what if it's possible they can start
to put these artificial intelligences in human containers? You know,
there's something, there's something that is almost a little bit
eerie about of that. You know, we talk about MPCs, right,
and you know we talk about you know, people who
are are potentially of the simulation or manifestations of the

(54:09):
simulated reality. I mean, I mean, who's to say that,
you know, these NPCs couldn't be a form of uploaded
AI intelligence that kind of work with the false matrix
system that we're partaking in. So I'm gonna say I
think that's a huge possibility, Chris. I mean, especially when
we're taking quantum computing into mind, that they could run

(54:30):
these assimulated scenarios to find out and play their five
dhs or what they need to do to have this
one single event ripple out into a butterfly effect of
these multiple other events that are going to lead them
to their desired path.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Mm hmm. And on that happy note, I want to
just say it again, Nicotine, I have no proof. I'm
not a doctor, but apparently some sources say or or
indicate that it does block self assembling nanotechnology. Mm hmmm.

(55:11):
Sorry sad to say.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
No, no, no, You're all good, You're you're all good.
But that's why it's like you know, like that was
funny because you remember when Brandon posted that, Chris, I
was like, because you know, I do the I do
the on pouches. So I was like, wait, should I
up my milligram dosage then for the day, just to
make sure I'm nanotechnology free? But I mean, who's to
say too that, you know, like this nanotech doesn't have

(55:34):
some kind of some kind of association with artificial intelligence.
This could be a probably a way, you know, if
AI ever did get into a position of government or
a position of law enforcement, which well, like I said,
let's hope we don't go down that timeline, I know, right,
that's uh, and or you know, or just ravenous AI

(55:59):
sex spots roaming the streets like you know, just.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
For like minority report, pre crime, prevention, pre crime.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
I mean you know they have that, mean they have
that in Canada. Actually they've had that for about ten
years in Canada.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Wait, WHOA what enlighten us on this?

Speaker 4 (56:16):
We did not notice?

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah, for over ten years in Canada they have been
surveilling people and if they think that you are going
to commit a crime, they can act on it. They
can use law enforcement to deal with you. Yes, pre
crime is alive and well in Canada, and we recently
got some legislation that says it's it was supposed to

(56:42):
be laws against hate speech, but basically what it is
is if you say anything that disagrees with the government,
they can come after you. They can literally put you
in jail, they can hurt you.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
You know, I have to look at what's going on
with the quote unquote immigration nonsense that is occurring right
now and try and look at a bigger picture and
see what they're implementing as all this stuff is happening.
AI surveillance systems technology for law enforcement to prevent the evil,

(57:21):
horrible immigrants from coming and taking your jobs. Meanwhile it's
being rolled out so they can do these things, these horrible, terrible,
terrifying things that we're talking about and govern every aspect
of our lives.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Well, look at this too, because you remember what happened
the whole Trump elon spat and then what happened on
the back end that company, I think it's Planteer or Planeteer,
Volunteer Volunteer or something like that, And what they did
is they just rolled out this massive surveillance on American citizens.

Speaker 4 (57:58):
It's almost this.

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Mass horrible one orb rule them all.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
All so so but I know, I know, but it's
like that this is this is another another another you
know road we're traveling on with this, and you know
that who's to say that Pallateer is not going to
be affiliated with AI and in this monitoring program. I
mean when you look at Pallateer, the original thing they
were doing was to for enemies for you know, for

(58:23):
enemies of the United States of America. They wanted to
get surveillance and counterintelligence on all of that. And now, uh,
terrorists and now and now it's being used on American citizens,
you know. So like I mean, I mean, obviously they're
they're they're beginning to see us as enemies here, and
you know, I wonder why.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
But uh but you know that the don doesn't know.
But uh, I don't, I don't, I don't know, man.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
But it's but it's strange, you know, it's strange the
trajectory that this is heading. It's strange on how so
many people are forming these relations ships with this artificial intelligence.
It's almost like to me, in order to have a
relationship with something like that, you would have to give
away a piece of your humanity, you know, I mean you,

(59:12):
I mean, as a human, you know, we crave touch,
We crave affection, you know, we crave like real, true
physical companionship, you know. And to sit there and to
trade all of those amazing, beautiful things that come with
either a human platonic relationship or a human romantic relationship,
to me, that's giving away a piece of piece of

(59:33):
our humanity. And I'm gonna just say it like this, dude,
It's like we have to be stop being so willing
to give away our humanity and the things that make
us human. And even as Chris was saying, you look
at this, this anti human agenda, you know, this should
be the the the red flag to all of us,
you know, like what what is going on? And I mean,
you know, we could even travel down the road if

(59:54):
there's even potentially a different form of artificial intelligence that
could be operating with them, potentially an extra dimensional or
a extraterrestrial form that could be utilizing this. But no,
I think I think we have to as humans put
our foot down and stop stop giving away humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
I would agree. And my advice to everybody out there is,
if you are so lonesome, that you want to get
an AI friend, I highly recommend you scooter on down
to your local to your local pound or your local
SPCA or your local animal rescue center and get yourself

(01:00:36):
something that's really intelligent and loving and warm and fuzzy.
And do that because I got to tell you I
have two cats. I love them dearly, and boy, they're
they're smart and they know what I'm not feeling good like.
They're wonderful companions. And of Chris, you got dogs, and Stephen,

(01:00:57):
what you got dogs? What have you got?

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
I got?

Speaker 7 (01:01:00):
I got, I got a life, and I got I got.
I got two beautiful chocolate lab pitple mixes. And they
are they're good girls. They're my daughters.

Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
And but speaking of that, before we had we wind down,
you were talking about dogs. You know they have artificial intelligent,
real life robot dogs. Now, yeah, this is this was
creepy dude. When I saw so, I was on YouTube
one time, and you know, of course, like since YouTube
premium is now twenty bucks a month, YouTube can go
pound sand and go off all the way to f

(01:01:36):
town with that kind of price to get without ads,
So I switched to Spotify and Pandora. But Nonetheless, there
was an ad on YouTube about this robot puppy and
I was looking at this thing, dude, and it was
eerie because this thing stays a puppy forever. Like the
joy of having an animal is watching it grow from

(01:01:57):
a puppy. And so, yes, we all love them in
the puppy stage, don't get me wrong. That's one of
the best stages. But we also love the other stages too.
We love to walk through our lives with our animal
companions and watch them grow with us, and you know,
watch them gain like almost their own personality about them.
It's the beautiful thing of being a dog owner or
a cat owner, in my opinion. But now they're they're

(01:02:20):
pumping out these artificial intelligence, real life robot dogs and
they're these dogs and they act life like. They even
ask to go outside, like all of these different things, man,
And that to me is like, as a real pet owner,
I'm like absolutely not. Like, you know, the joy of

(01:02:40):
having a real life cherubbam consciousness in my house is
outweighs any any want or any desire for me to
have some kind of robot companion dog, you know. So
I think this is the levels we're getting to man,
like the next next we're gonna have you know, freaking yeah,
they already have drone birds, they already have drone mosquitoes.

(01:03:03):
You know, next we're going to have robot aider running
out in the woods.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Possibly, I don't know, but like, man, just to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
That was just really a that was a little bit
of a reality check for where this is going. And
now we're going to have almost a completely automated world,
devoid of organic life if we don't, we don't put
our foot down and take our humanity back. Well we
all right, guys, this was fun. This was good. I
enjoyed this very much. It was good to see the

(01:03:31):
both of you and your smiling, shining faces. And before
we head off for today, why don't you tell everybody
where they can find you and what you are working on.
Let's start with Karen real fast.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Hi, Okay, you can find me on most platforms at
Karen Holton TV, or you can find me on all
audio podcasts with the Quantum Guide Show with Karen Holton.
And that's because I'm part of the Forbidden Knowledge Network,
as are my two friends here. And what am I

(01:04:07):
working on? Still have two shows a week Quantum Guide
Show Wednesday, and Aliens and Angels is on Sundays and
what else. I don't know, my mind just went blank.
But yeah, so just come and check me out, subscribe

(01:04:28):
if you'd like to, and please share my contact with
your friends. Thank you everybody, and thank you guys. I
really enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Right on well, thank you both for being a part
of this again. Always have a blast coming on these.
I can be found on my website Forbidden Knowledge dot News.
Forbidden Knowledge News is on all podcasts platforms. The website
is also the Forbidden Knowledge Network, where you can find
podcasts like The Quantum Guide Show, Bgcast, Aliens and Angels

(01:04:59):
and many more. Also, we are on Rumble and please
go check out my new film Doors of Perception. It
is available right now on Amazon Prime. It should be
on the other streamers within a month or so. And
thank you all again for coming hang out and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Thank you guys for showing up. Of course, you guys
know where you can find me. Definitely Forbidden Knowledge Network
and definitely on every other platform possible. And yes, guys,
so this is this is kind of a message to everybody.
You know, we have to take our humanity back. You know,
we have to put our foot down. We have to
say we don't want a world of automated furry friends

(01:05:40):
that just to me just doesn't seem like a life that.
I think Sally and Hazel would be appalled, Chris. They
would be like, they would be like, like, why are
you bringing into this house? The same with my dogs
they would be like, what is this thing? And probably
Karence Cats would be like, get this whatever it is
away from me. So, you know, guys, we gotta remember,
we gotta rememb to put our foot down us humanity

(01:06:01):
when it comes to this, and we have to exercise,
we have to exercise our discernment at literally everything at
this point. You know, of course, we try to focus
and put our energy into the positive polarity, into manifesting
the most joyful, abundant timeline not just for ourselves but
for the rest of the collective. We also have to
hold in our awareness the balance of the fact that

(01:06:24):
we are undergoing spiritual warfare and you know this does
come and how do we hold that balance? At least
in my opinion, it is through our discernment. It is
through our personal sovereignty and our personal agency and not
allowing any narrative or any aspect of this reality to
completely rule us. All righty guys, thank you so much

(01:06:44):
for joining us for this FKN panel and this Bgcast
once Day Live podcast. And you know what we say here, guys,
Stay safe, stay free, stay sovereign, and I'm going to
add stay away from the sex robots. For the love
of God, have a good one every day.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Thank you for joining me for the Aliens and Angels podcast.
Read about my true life et contact in my book
called Transdimensional Meet the New Neighbors, which is now available
on Amazon worldwide. Subscribe to my YouTube Rumble and X

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and services. All of the links will be in the
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will also find the Quantum Guide Show with Karen Holton
on all audio platforms. Until next time, Pop the good work.

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