Aliens & Angels: Kevin Michael Estrella

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everybody, Welcome back to the Aliens and Angels podcast.

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I'm very happy to introduce you to Cavan Michael Estrella.
He is the guitarist and composer of the instrumental instrumental
rock band called Pyramids on Mars hard rock, industrial and
metal infused with lead guitar melodies inspired by the violin

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sorry inspired by the violin melodies of Baroque classical composers
Bach and Vivaldi. Kevin's latest album, Cosmic Angels, is inspired
by his visitations by extra terrestrials. Elements in all his
albums incorporate many things that have been taught to him

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by these other worldly visitors, including but not limited to,
telepathic storytelling and the tonal language of the cetaceans and Wales.
Kevin has been a guest on over ninety UFO radio
talk shows described his UFO and ongoing extraterrestrial experiences. Kevin

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has also had a passion for UFOs and extraterrestrials. He's
spent over twenty years researching to understand why they are here,
and he wanted to combine his passion of music with
braising consciousness and awareness of the UFO and extraterrestrial presence,
which was always his purpose in life. This calling was

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affirmed on August twenty first, twenty fourteen, when he had
contact with an interdimensional craft of unearthly origin. Since then,
Kevin began experiencing many other related incidents like incredible synchronicities,
music downloads, symbol downloads through dreams, and that's where he

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got his neck illusions, DNA double felix design on his guitar,
and increased telepathy. His musical downloads are discussed in UFO
researcher Grant Cameron's book called Tuned in the Paranormal World
of Music. Many of Kevin's personal CE five ET encounters

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are discussed in Inviting Et by Sue Walker. Kevin works
with the pentel Zetas, who reside at the Sandria Mountains, Albuquerque,
New Mexico, helping prepare humanity for official first contact. Kevin

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is the host of Pyramids on Mars UFO Radio since
twenty sixteen on Artists First. Kevin has a large network
of friends, colleagues, researchers in the UFO community who are
experiencers star Seeds and star Nation human hybrids. He now

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brings their stories to the Artist First Network. All of
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available so you can receive my books and also help
to support the channel, which is awesome. So without further ado,
I'll bring Kevin onto the stage. Hi, Kevin, how you
doing today?

Speaker 2 (04:39):
How we doing good?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I'm good, I'm good. I'm just going to check into
the live chat. Say hi to Denise, and Denise says welcome,
Michael Dennis, well, sorry, Denise, welcomes Heaven, Michael. Sorry, Kevin,
Mike sorry, and Aml also says hi Kevin, and and

(05:07):
we have Stacy birth so I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah Stacy cool.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, she's here as well. Thank you for coming, and
very lovely everybody for being here. Thank you for joining
us today. There we go, so hi everybody. I'll try
to fit in as many questions from the live chat
as possible. So I don't know, I know it's such

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a big subject, Kevin, and we could go in so
many different directions, so I'm going to keep this fairly unstructured.
I thought, maybe you could start off by telling us
how you got started in all of this with your
music ety contact, and how the two came together so
beautifully to to produce the music that you have available

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to everybody.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Sure. Yeah, I created Pyramids on Mars back in the
year twenty eleven, and I had bookmarked that name after
my other band kind of fell apart, and I wanted
that to be my solo project. But I also wanted
my instrumental music to be a catalyst for the teaching

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people about the extraterrestrial presence because I had spent many years,
you know, since since high school or sorry, university studying
the extraterrestrials. And when the Internet came on in the
year two thousand, that's when I really was starting to
watch more videos of Richard Hoglands with anomalies on Mars
and on all over the systems. And I just continued

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to learn more and more and read more books like
about Hopkins books and things like that. But Pyramids, Pyramids
of Mars, my music was the whole idea of you know,
the idea of a pyramid on Mars. There are pyramids
on Mars, many pyramids on Mars, the DNM pyramids in Sidonia,
and there's also other ones to look like gum drops.

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So it was a beautiful image the the you know,
the universatile university, universality of a pyramid. And then it
was I have my first UFO experience in August twenty first,
twenty fourteen, when a craft flew across my backyard and

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through all these channels that basically eventually led me to
meeting Grant Cameron, a UFO researcher, and he because he
was doing a presentation on extraterrestrials and musicians and why
musicians are being contacted by aliens to you know, to

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increase their their their presence. And I didn't realize that,
you know, because I was already doing this, and then
I read this in the papers and I realized, oh
my god, like that was the very first synchronicity I
ever experienced. And you know, when you start to pay
attention to these things, it's very important. And I knew
there was something bigger than myself that was going on.
And then when I went to go meet Grant, and

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then everything started to make sense because his whole presentation
was on how so many musicians you know, countless like
David Bowie, you know Foo Fighters, Britney Spears, Al Jurgensen
from from Ministry, the band, Yes, the Moody Blues, And
it's endless of how many musicians have been had at contact.

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And so I realized I was kind of part of
something that was big. There was something big that was
going on. And then when Grant started talking about song
downloads and how musicians seem to get music from I
don't know. It just kind of appears. And some people's
best work was written like in the dreams, or came

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in a dream, or or was totally you know, an accident,
and I was I experienced that myself with a song
that I literally got in a dream and hard to
take credit for it because there was no effort at
over at all to the song. I just I heard
it in a dream and then I just recorded it.
And so that's how that story got into his book,

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Tuned in the Paranormal World of Music. But it would
be a couple of years later a friend would introduce
me to the Ponte. Who are behind me here, as
you can see, that's Commander Tilcombe, the Ponte. Who are they?
They they're from the planet Pontel, which is the fifth

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planet orbiting Zeta Reticuli two, which is a binary star system,
and that's the furthest of the two stars. And they
reside in an information station under the Sandia Mountains in
the Albuquere, Albuquerque, New Mexico. You know this is there's
nothing to do with the military base in Albuquerque. This

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is an ancient human civilization that exists under the Sandia
Mountains two miles below, and it's about fifty thousand years old.
And I just recently found out that I knew that
they the Ponte, have refurbished about fifteen percent of this
old system. However, this system has some very very tall

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steps and very tall doors. We're talking about giant giants
used to live here. So I just found that at recently,
which is like the blew went through my mind. But
the Ponte are they've been here for a long time
and they're here to prepare us for official first contact.
They made They made themselves known to Sue Walker, who's

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a professional telepath, and she started working with them, and
I believe it was twenty fifteen. They opened up a
Twitter account in twenty sixteen, and it was at first
it was a social experiment, but it turned out to
be an absolutely phenomenal experiment. They have over twenty thousand
followers now and they've taught a lot of things about

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their culture. They don't talk about technology on that website,
but they talk about culture, about right mindedness, they talk
about the things that are going on on this planet,
things that are going on with the with the sun,
and you know, any questions that that people have, you know,

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they try and answer them on Twitter. So I was
introduced to the Pontea back in twenty sixteen, and then
I became friends with Sue very very very quickly, and
we grew very close and I've been working with her
and the Pontea ever since. So it's going to be

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coming up to almost ten years now actually as of
next year. But wow, yeah, it's been a quite it's been.
It's been a wild ride. It's been amazing. The poty
have enriched my life in so many ways.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
You know, Sorry, sorry I want to hear all about that,
but I wanted just because a lot of people are
not familiar. I've never heard of the Ponti until I
saw you on another podcast talking about them, and so
could you tell us again where they are located. And
for those of us in Canada, can you be like

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what state are they in? Are they northwest, southeast? You know,
where are they located and how long have they been there?

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Well, the information station that they that they work out
of is in Sanda is in Albuquerque, New Mexico, under
the Sandia Mountain, right New Mexico, New Mexico. Yeah, I
mean there are I think there are three or four
information stations on the planet at the you know that
the the star Nations reside out of. There's one that's

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in the New Zealand areas, New Zealand area. Yeah, yeah,
I think that's what it's called. And I believe there's
another one somewhere in Europe. But the Ponte the majority
of them, you know, they work out of this information station.
They have probably about one hundred trainees who have come

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over the last five, you know, three or four years
to learn and to visit people, and they visit people
all over North America. So those are.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Those human trainees or trainees from the.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Same they're ponty there from the planet. Yeah, yeah, so
young trainees, but they do spend a long time, you know,
in school before they even come to Earth. I think
it's equivalent of fifty earth years they spend in school
before they can even graduate to come here. And then

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and then new All he's one of the Ponte. He's
he's an instructor. He's the one who was, you know,
teaching the Ponte. In fact, actually, right now there's a
whole bunch, there's a whole new graduate, a whole bunch
that are just graduating right now, and they need to
get their their visit hours in before the summer solstice,

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so they were kind of rushing to get you get
that done. So you know, they're they're on they're on
a schedule. They also, you know, sometimes the trainees make mistakes.
They sometimes break stuff or sometimes they've like you know,
left a door unlocked and stuff like that, and then
they get scolded for that. You know. I once, uh,

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a funny story for that happened to me. I was
in my apartment one time, and I was just sitting
on my couch and I was talking to somebody, and
then all of a sudden and like I have a
shelf which has a speaker on it, and the speaker
kind of goes around my guitar amp. And there's also
like a didgery do. It's like a long stick that

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was kind of leaning against that, and all of a sudden,
the wire, the speaker wire went flying across the wall
and pulled everything off the shelf and everything just went
flying across the floor. And I look at it because
there's a few feet away from me, and I realized

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that it was there was a trainee and they guess
said that they must have leaned on the wall or
something like that, and then it leaned on the on
the didery do, which caused a whole slew everything to
go flying on one side. It was kind of funny,
you know, and you know, and then you know, you
other people have reported some strange things. You know, we're

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you know, food has been left on the floor or
or like a pickle is has a bite taken out
of it and nobody else was near it.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
You know, So that's funny that that that that is
that is actually really funny. How about if I put
together a very short, slight presentation with some of the
images sure that Sue has done. And I thought that
might be a good place to to go next, just
so that we can the audience can get a better

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understanding of what these beings look like or their essence.
What I love about your experience is, in some ways
it's similar to mine, where I have contact with what
we would call a gray I don't know who he's
attached with. I see him in in etheric or astral form,

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but he definitely presents in my mind's eye to me,
and he has a fantastic sense of humor. And I've
never heard anybody talk about these ets is having a
sense of humor. And I'm going, no, they can't all
be scary and dark and oh the emotionless. And then

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I heard your account, and so I'm waiting. I want
to hear much more about that. I just wanted to read.
I just copied and pasted this directly from messenger from Sue.
Sue Walker is a translator for the Ponte of the
Sandy Mountain Information Station. Sue says, I know Kevin Estrella

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will be on your show tomorrow, well, which is today.
I have some images that you might like of the
Ponty for your show with him. Let me send you
a few photos of the portraits I have done of them.
So I wanted to read that out to the audience
so that people see that I do indeed have permission

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to share Sue's images that she sent to me, and
especially within context of this show. And here's an image
of till Come. She says. She gives us how to
pronounce their names as well, Uh til come. He manages

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the station of a little over two hundred staff and trainees. So, Kevin,
that would be uh two hundred of the Ponti not
mixed with humans. It's just that particular race that are
there doing the training and the work. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Yeah, Yeah, there's there's other Star nations too, you know,
at the at the base, and they also have they
also have blended as well. And what I mean by
that are like you know hybrids Dodd Ponty who are
kind of they have humans you know, earth human genetics
to them as well.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Hm. Do they do they snatch people in the middle
of the night and force them to give donations of
eggs and sperm and things like that. Are they of
that group or they have another system that they use.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
No, they don't. I have not heard the Ponti you know,
doing that kind of stuff. No. No, they mostly like
you know, visit people, you know, and and teach people
and dreams. They do that too, and does other liaisons.
Like Peter, he focuses more on the with the children
visiting children.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
So, yeah, and this is the first female we met
in person and an individual close to Kevin's heart, so
to speak. And to pronounce her name, say the girl's
name Trudy just started with the J instead of a T,
so so it'd be like, Drudy, is that right?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
That's right? Yes?

Speaker 1 (20:02):
And what's her position?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
She's she's kind of like a liaison. She knows, you know,
all the different star nations who are visiting, you know,
when they land, when they when they land at the
information station, she's like, oh, you know, how's such and
such your kid? Who, how's this person? How's this personally?
She knows you know, a lot of people. She's kind
of like a public public relation, so to speak. But yeah,

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and then when she's when she's off work, one of
her favorite pastimes is she likes to go with one
of her girl girlfriends lady friends, and and they would
go down south where are these like, you know, big
swarms of birds are flying around like bower birds, and
they do what's called skykiting. And what that is is

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that what they do is that with the permission of
the of the birds, they will telepathically merge with the
birds and and have competitions of who can make the
best images with these swirling birds. And that's why sometimes
you'll see these bower birds that are swirling and all
of a sudden they form one large bird, or they

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form a human face, or they form a whale or
something like that. And it's not paradilia. It's some star
Nation is is doing skykiting, and you know, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Interesting, very very interesting. Yeah, if I had that ability,
I would definitely do that as well. And so this.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Is uh, that's.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Right, Yeah, rhymes with oz as in the Wizard of
Everyone calls him Radar. He's a cut up, young and
a little defiant and his best friend is a Sasquatch.
I love it. I love it. Do you do you, Kevin?
Do you think that the Sasquatches are a form of
what we would consider et or possibly inter or transdimensional beings?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, they are, they are. They can be interdimensional, transmensional
beings and physical beings. They flip, they flip between both worlds.
They they're not star Nation though they they're they're native
to Earth, but they're actually they're older than us and
than Earth humans, so they're kind of like that's why

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I believe they're also known as like they're called like
elder brother mm.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Hmm yeah, mh And.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
And Radar, and Radar's buddy with Kiya, who's a teenager Sasquatch.
So and I'm I'm I'm buddies with Radar. He's from
my when my big et you know, Ponty Pals and
uh you know funny story I can tell you last
last year, I when I was visited, when I was

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visiting Sue and Otter, I was just saying good night
to Sue, and I asked her, can you ask Radar
what's going on tonight? Because they usually will pick me
up in the middle of the night and we're doing stuff.
I never remember it, but I know that you know
that things do happen. And she turns, and she turns
says hey, Radar. He says, prepare to be boarded. And

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so I I just said, r meet. So I usually
sleep in there in their camper, so out with the
parking lot, And just as I had just was just
falling asleep, all of a sudden, I hear running running
through the camper were had to be at least three

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ponte and I was lying on my on my on
my back. They tackled me like it's like a football tackle,
and they and I and I and I ended up
rolling over on my stomach on the other side of
the of the camper like they literally tacked like like
a football tackle, and I wake up. I'm startled, like,
what the heck does happened?

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Oh my gosh, that would be so funny. So I'm
so glad to hear that at least one of them
has a good sense. It's a humor because you know,
when we're talking about our experience as Kevin, sometimes I
don't know about you, but my experiences are so fantastical.

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First of all, I don't expect anyone to believe me.
That's not my issue. More learn from my experience because
it can have a real positive effect on your life.
But you know, sometimes I wonder if I'm completely stark,
raving mad, imagine the whole thing, and yet I can't
have imagined it because of the evidence that's there. And

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so sometimes I hesitate to tell people some of the
funny aspects or the humorous things, or Bob the gray
that's not his real name, that's just what I call him.
He's hilarious. He loves a Frank Sinatra and Michael Jackson.
He often wears a fedora, or at least he presents
is wearing a fedora. And you know, I don't see

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why we can't enjoy the company of these beings instead
of it always being so dark and heavy and you know, gloomy,
and you know, I just think there's something wrong with
the narrative. And I think people like us are needed
to turn them the narrative on its on its head sideways,

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you know, and show that there are many different kinds
of friendships we can have. And I think we need
to get darn serious about this because I think it's
just a matter of time before it becomes everyday knowledge.
I just finish this up, what Sue says. She says,
I've been drawing the Punty and Sasquatch for ten years

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now and have lots and lots of images you can
use if you need more have fun. On Kevin's show,
you can ask him about the real time telepathic interaction
on Twitter. Yes, I definitely want to know more about that.
With radar. When they are talking about captions that should
be on Ponty T shirts. That's hilarious. You can ask

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and you can ask him about snorting tea out his
nose and Radar's reaction. Also, he can tell you about
his guitars being retuned while hanging on the wall, and
that's from Sue. So that is the end of that.
But I thought that would be great if you could

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speak to some of those some of those experiences. And again,
I think it's important that we see these as our friends,
you know, and stop being terrified. I'm not saying they're
all good. I'm sure some people have had some awful experiences,
but my friends who have had awful experiences came later

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to understand that there was a purpose to it. Once
he understood what happened, they were no longer afraid. Anyway,
I'll stop babbling and you tell us about Oh and
by the way, I just want to tell all the
listeners and viewers, Sue's going to be on the show
in two weeks, so we'll have many, many more images

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to share with you. And so that's coming up too,
So I thought maybe we could talk. You could tell
us a little bit about Radar and Twitter. What is
that all about?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, So this is going back to when I first
started talking to the Pontea back in twenty sixteen, and
so I was thinking about, you know, because you know,
first Radar was teasing me about some T shirts that

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I had on sale that were called e t shirts
and the images were drawn by experiencer Robert Fullington and
they're pretty serious looking and a little bit a little
kind of scary looking, and so you know, one day
on Twitter, Radar comes on Twitter and says, hey, keV,
we got to get you some better models for your
T shirts. Those are just too scary looking. And so

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I was thinking, I say, I responded back, and this
is all live. It's all live happening like Twitter, like
we're back talking back and forth. I said, oh, yeah, well,
I know, I know four new models for a really
good T shirt, because at that point Sue had, you know,
she only had like four portraits she had done of Pontees.
One Tilcombe radar to me and Judy, and I thought

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of them, all four of them like together on a
T shirt, and I said that that would be a
really cool T shirt. And then Tilcombe piped up and says, yes,
I like the idea, and so I said, okay, but
here's the thing. I want you guys to come up
with the caption for the T shirt, Like what's a
T shirt going to say? And so I'm sitting there,
I'm thinking, she will be a good caption for a

(28:52):
T shirt. Oh, just simply we're here in brackets. I
was thinking that it does make a good T shirt.
And then and then the next the next tweet that
comes up was it was brackets, we're here with this
dash with a with a half you know half. It
was emoji the half smiley face like laughing radar and

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I went, oh my god, Like I typed on Twitter,
you know, I said, oh my god, that's amazing. I
was just I was just thinking that. The next response
on Twitter from Rader was telepathy works who knew with
another smiley face. And I'm like, wait a second, what

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did you just And then and then he responded back
and says, dude, you're easy to read and dude, get
used to it. And my mind was completely blown, Like
that was like, oh my god, to lep with these
real and how did you do that? It was all
live on Twitter. It just freaking blew my mind. And and

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so that was a huge, huge thing for me. It's
just nuts. And and you know, Radar, he's he's amazing.
He's just he's so funny the stuff that he would
say on Twitter, and this time he get himself into trouble.
You know. That's why, you know, Grayson and I have
nicknamed him Brinkman. You know, that whole line of story

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in itself that ties into the tea party story.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah, I want to hear about that too.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, so we're keeping mind Brinkman because, like you know,
Grayson and I came up with the name Brinkman for Radar,
which is short for brinkmanship, which is like operating on
the lines of you know danger, you know, which is
you know, kind of dangers my middle nine baby, That's
what Raidar would say. You know, it's very true. And

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so this whole thing with the with the tea party,
it was I was at the ozark UFO conference in
Arkansas and staying with a friend and we were staying
in a motel all which is actually more like a
like a almost like a B and B. So it
had like a main bedroom and then they had a
room off the side which was like a big party
room which had a big long couch and then it
had a table and then a love seat. And what

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happened was it was it was two weeks after I
got back from the UFO conference when, like as I
when I had this memory of like of seeing Radar
jumping up and down on the couch because I was
sleeping on the couch. He's bouncing up and down going
wake up, wake up, party time, Party time. And then
I messaged Sue and I said, Sue, I just got

(31:36):
this this this this memory coming back of this. And
then and then and then Twitter on Twitter in the
private message it was Radar came says, dude, yeah, we
we we we laughed, we partied. You snorted, true knows
when do you want to do it again?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
You must have been laughing while you were drinking your tea.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, the thing was, I didn't know. Once he said
snort t your nose, all of a sudden, the memory
came flying through. They allowed me to remember the whole thing,
and it was the most vivid. It was like it
was like a download and I saw the entire thing
that took place. It was several minutes I remember it,

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but it happened and instantaneous of me remembering and reliving
the whole entire thing. I never experienced a download like
that or memory like that ever. And I not only
was it that I'll tell this story, but like I
think it was, I could remember what I was, my
side thoughts during it, and I remember hearing their voices
telepathically really loud in my head. It was very loud,

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and so basically what it was a t They threw
a tea party for me. I'm sitting there on the couch.
Across from me is is Radar on the on the
love seat, and then sitting next to him is Tilcombe,
and Dreudy was sitting on my raight hand side. And
so Ray Tilcombe is telling this story about raidar Are.

(33:01):
He was like hot riding his his skippership as Ufo,
which is known as her name is called Delta Don
his ship. He did something wrong and he's running around
the hangar bay looking for their mechanic his name, whose
name is Dell, because he thinks something is going to
blow up, you know, and Tilt them is telling this
story telepathically and then it's interrupted by this voice that

(33:24):
just booms in my head. Now, you the thing is
with telepathy, you can't figure out where the sounds coming from,
because you know, we use our ears to hear where
sounds coming from. Telepathy, it's a voice appears in your head, right.
And the voice sounded like it sounded like Spock, you know,
from Star Trek, like Leonard Nieboy. And I'm thinking, when

(33:45):
did Spock get in the room? And I was thinking,
whose voice is that? And I remember one of the
Twitter followers had mentioned that Grayson when the Ponzi has
a very deep voice, and I was thinking, I was
thinking Grayson, And I turned and here was he was
leaning against the wall and he kind of looked up

(34:06):
looked at me to see if I recognized him. And
I guess I was so overtaken with shock that I had.
I guess I had taken a sip of tea and
I snorted out out my nose all towards, you know,
towards Radar, and he.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Thought that was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Of course, Radar laughed so hard that he was literally
snorting himself off the couch and he's sliding off the
couch going like this like this and like this, you know, yeah, yeah,
and everybody is just absolutely in stitches. And and then

(34:44):
I'm so embarrassed because you know, here, these people, they
came forty light years the US. What do I do?
I snort tea on my nose all over them, the
most embarrassing thing I could think of. And yeah, Radar
is looking at me. And at this point now he's
got a visors down and he looks like Spider Man,
you know, with his visors down, and he's talking to me,
but his mouth isn't moving. I felt like I was

(35:06):
talking to Spider Man now. And he says, you know what,
I've never seen one of you do that before. That's
so cool. I was to answer it, and everybody just
burst out into laughter again, and it was just nuts.
And the thing was, I also remember they always they

(35:28):
allowed me to remember what it felt like because they
were sharing their emotions with me, and it's what they
call it. They called a hug of light. And it
was like this might like my chess was full of
such so much love and friendship and camaraderie and being
like at the best party of your life. The emotion
was so complex and so intense and I can't it's

(35:51):
so hard to put the words into it. But it
was just like I never wanted to leave that it
was the most incredible feeling be with them. It's it's, it's, it's,
it's undescribable.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
So I had I had a similar experience when I
was aboard the Big Ship. Now, when I traveled to
the Big Ship, I don't go there physically. I go
there transdimensionally. And but anyway, I was aboard the Big
Ship and I actually got to go to a concert
and the beings that that were performing, they were playing

(36:28):
musical instruments, they were using some voice tones, but the
telepathy was a huge part of the of the actual performance,
and it in full sensations, visions you know, in your
mind's eye, and strong emotions, and it was so real.

(36:50):
And finally, at a certain point in the concert, I
just started sobbing because I was so overtaken with the
emotion from the intensity. I talk all about that in
my book. And then the concert abruptly stopped when I
started sobbing, and I thought, oh God, I've ruined the concert.

(37:14):
Because one of the things I learned aboard the Big Ship,
part of learning telepathy was also learning to shield my
emotions and my thoughts because a certain amount of what
you experience you want to keep private. They call it shielding.
So anyway, like I had tried, everyone that was at
the concert were doing shielding, and I was doing my best,

(37:37):
but I just couldn't handle it, and I end up sobbing. Anyway,
so the Farmers came down off the stage and they
actually congratulated me because of that marked the measure of
the success of their concert. They would keep performing until
someone completely loses it, and I was the first one

(37:59):
to completely use it, and then other people around me
and beings were losing it too, But I thought I
was going to be in big trouble. But the opposite
like that, that that's part of the performance is to
is to stir the beings that are present to that

(38:20):
point where they lose it emotionally. So I so I
totally relate to a lot of what you say, very
similar to my experiences. I'm wondering if we could just
take a minute for me to run a very short
promotion for my book, and then we'll come back and
then I want to hear, of course, anything else you
want to say, but also about your guitars, uh be

(38:42):
tuned while they're hanging on the wall. I thought that
was really really it's really okay, So well, we'll come
back to that in just a second. I'm just going
to do my quick promotion and we'll be right back.
We're in the stunning details about ET diversity and culture,
along with their advanced ways of living and expressing spirituality,
which is in no way like anything imagined here on Earth.

(39:05):
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different ET beings, the healing pods, the interior of the
Big Ship, my orientation process, cultural events, and offworld mating practices.
In my contact experience, I learned a great deal about
the Big Ship, intergalactic and trans dimensional travel, intergalactic planetary research,

(39:30):
and the various options for resettlement. Once I published my
first book, I felt the need to create a second
book called trans Dimensional two Meet the Grays Picture Book.
I worked with AI to develop many images of beings
that we have come to know of as the Grays.
These beings come from many places, realms, dimensions, and timelines,

(39:50):
and although they are of the same species as other humanoids,
they are from many different family lines and races. What
qualifies them as Grays is that their skin to does
not contain the pigment necessary to reflect light in our
visible range. Of the color spectrum, so to us, they
all appear to be various shades of gray. Beyond this
physical attribute, there is much diversity in their origins, cultures, purposes,

(40:15):
and physiological details. My goal is to get you used
to the looks of beings which are different than humans,
in order to reduce your fear and increase your familiarity,
so you will remain more rationally grounded once the et
presence escalates beyond debate. Enjoy these images and notice the
things we have in common, so you will see that

(40:36):
although they are different from us in appearance, we are
essentially many family lines within one species. Paperback and kindle
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Search the Amazon and Kindle bookstores and pick up your
copies today. And we're back. So two things I wanted

(41:00):
to talk about. One was the guitars being retuned. But
also I'm wondering if we could then segue into some
discussion about the hybrids. A lot of people are super
interested in that whole process, how it happens, what its
purposes are. But anyway, I just want to everybody, those

(41:22):
of you who've joined us late, this is Kevin Estrella.
He is a musician and he is an EH experience
er extraordinary, So yeah, let's hear about whatever you'd like
to tell us about your guitars, Kevin.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah, so it happened during the writing of my last CD.
Cosmic Angels were about half the album had already been recorded,
and then they were recorded on my signature guitar. But
I have another guitar, my last Paul, which is drawing.

(42:00):
It's a drop D tuning. But then I also take
that guitar and I drop it down a whole step,
so it's actually like the drop C, so it's a
lower tuning. And that was the tuning that I played
with my in my band Shatter Instinct, and my guitar
was tuned like that, and then I pick it up
one day and start playing it, and it just sounded
really rich, and I couldn't figure out what was going

(42:24):
on with it, but it just sounded darker and maybe
like it was just it was basically essentially what happened
was that the guitar was retuned even lower, so rather
than it being tuned at drop C, somebody had retuned
it to drop A. But when I checked the frequency,
because I play my music at four hundred and thirty

(42:46):
two hertz. There's a long story in regards to what
that's all about. Ye. So but when I when I
checked the tuning of the guitar, I actually when I
picked it up, I ended up writing a whole song
right there in the spot. The whole song just came together,
which I called gray fear of influence, because what I
found out was that the guitar was purposely retuned by Grayson,

(43:11):
one of the ponte, and he when I but when
I checked the frequency, I had to download a tone
generator and I and when I checked the frequency, I
was shocked. It was tuned to five hundred and twenty
eight herts.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Interesting in a human I.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Went, oh, my god, who retuned my guitar? And I
went on Twitter and I said, guys, my guitar has
been retuned and it's tuned the five hundred and twenty
It hurts in low low A, which is a baritone setting.
And all all that came up. Response from the ponte
was that's a portrait of Grayson going like this and

(43:52):
that's it. He didn't then there was anything. There was
no words, and I went, oh my gosh, Grayson retuned
my guitar, and so I ended up writing about three
three songs on that album which were tuned in this
literal alien tuning, in this low drop baritone setting, and

(44:14):
the songs are really really cool. And now all those
songs as well, were written in one take. So I
just picked the guitar up and just played, and the
whole song came one take. I recorded it on my phone.
You know that that one take, And then I just
went and learned the songs and then recorded them and
there was no edits. This is exactly how it came out,

(44:34):
so it was it was incredible. And and then one
time I was interviewing Sue Walker on my radio show
and this is live live radio, and then she's like,
hang on, Grayson's interrupting me, and then she's translating for Grayson,
and Grayson asked, so, how was how is the new

(44:58):
the how's the new retoo and going? And I was like,
I was like, he said, then he's explaining to me
how to play the guitar with those tunings, and he's
talking about the low you know, the low east ring
now being like a drone and bringing everything back into center.

(45:19):
I'm just going to read to I'm just going to
read it exactly what he said, Gang.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Sure, Sure, this is awesome stuff. And it does not
surprise me that they are so into music because it's
all about frequency. Yeah, and uh and what a beautiful
bridge between them and us, a very user friendly bridge

(45:43):
and sort of what we have in common, you know,
I think it's absolutely lovely.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Okay. So the first thing he said was, Kevin, you
play to the soup to the ripple through the collector
of consciousness proactively, You're design you design your music to
do that. That's rare. So what he's talking about is
that I play. When I write music, I'm writing it
not for humans. I'm writing it for the collective consciousness,

(46:14):
for you know, star nations. That's how I'm using at
that level because they've been teaching me how to communicate
it at a telepathic level. What very much like what
you experienced with with images and and stories behind them
behind the music and the tonal language of how my
guitar is speaking to people. So they've been teaching me

(46:37):
how to how to speak a tonal language on my guitar.
And so that's that element is very important. And so
Grayson goes on to say is the retuning making more
sense and allowing greater nuances in your music writing. Emphasize
the harmonics and use the e string as the apostrophe.

(46:59):
Emphasize the harmonic tones and the chords, and then the
deeper note becomes the exclamation mark, the apostrophe, the eureka,
the pinnacle, the crescendo of the piece and brings it
back into full circle. And then Sue says, he's liking
it to writing a playscript. As you are telling a story,

(47:20):
you are starting and ending with an apostrophe at the
beginning captures the attention of your audience and makes them
sit up and listen and go, what was that? And
the apostrophe at the end solidifies the ripple through the soup.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Wow, that's very very interesting. So I bet you are
just tickled pink to learn that, and everything seems to
then validate everything else, and it just becomes quite an
interesting kind of life. I'm hoping that you'll come back

(47:59):
to the Aliens and Angels podcast and maybe share some
of your music with us. I just wasn't sure how
to go about doing that at this point. Plus, you know,
I wanted us to get kind of Part one done.
Where we're talking a little bit about your history with
a Pontea and with Sue and everything. So I know

(48:21):
people are holding their breath waiting to hear a bit
about the hybrids. Can you explain who is operating that
hybrid program and what it involves and what the goal
is to creating human et hybrids.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Well, I think there's there's not just one one goal.
There's kind of like multiple different goals that are kind
of happening. And I've gotten, you know, different information from
different people. I have a lot of friends who have
hybrid children on board ships, a lot of friends like

(49:01):
like Nancy Tremaine, uhh, Misha Johnston just for example, and
many others who have hybrid children. And I know that
with some of these children, they are going to be
very beneficial when official first contact does happen and then

(49:25):
we do, then we are bridging our you know, relationships
with these star nations for the first time in our history.
And these people, these these these hybrids are kind of
helping to bridge us as well, that we are all
genetically related and and and they some of them have

(49:46):
you know, a little bit higher of a higher frequency
to help us, you know, in there in our evolution
because eventually, eventually our are you know, if you can
stop fighting each other on the planet and stop acting
like monkeys. Monkeys are actually more more advanced than we
are more advanced than us, Yes, uh so. But what

(50:08):
I'm saying is that our future will be star trek.
That is our future. That we will be traveling the stars,
exploring new galaxies alongside other star nation beings. That is
our future. So we need to get along first on
our planet, and these beings, these hybrids, are going to
help us as well with bridging bridging this gap. Now

(50:30):
there's also talk of you know, other other reasons for
hybrids as well. In regards to you know, Jeff Silver,
His book is called you know the Alien Cities.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yes, yes, I've had I've had Jeff on the show.
I consider him a friend of mine, and yes he's
got a whole book about that.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yeah yeah. And he's so well like, he's so well
spoken and so well it's incredible like listening to him
because he's very he's he's really got his head, you
know straight in the way he communicates is just brilliant.
But he talks about these these hybrid cities where you know,
ets and and hybrids and humans will will be able

(51:13):
to live together harmoniously in different places on the planet.
On planet Earth, that is. But there's also I think
there's also possibilities of in the case of an absolute
total disaster of the planet, where we do have a
complete extinction level event and the majority of human that

(51:36):
human races is eradicated, that there will be hybrid humans
in order to be able to help replace, you know,
some of the lost populations. So there's all kinds of
you know, it's not just one theory, it's not just
this theory. There's there's lots of there's lots of reasons
to it. Yeah, and you know, for example, Nancy Tremaine,

(51:59):
her her son drags he is he's going to be
a judge. He's going to be a very very influential
person in the in the court systems. So that's what
that's what his his purpose is. So you know, and
you know with the Ponte they have they have different

(52:20):
you know, blended who were who lived there. Gary, he
he looks, he looks he looks like Key for Sutherland.
He looks very much like Kei for Sutherland, which is
pretty wild. And he has hair but he's got you know,
he's got et features too. He's like half half ponte,

(52:40):
half human, and he teaches he teaches the blended on
how to hide amongst the population without getting noticed.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
That's a pretty important, important scale, you know. I just
wanted to let you know that a lot of what
you're saying does totally resonate with me and my experience. So,
first of all, it's not if there's an extinction level event,
it's when, because these cycles happen on planets all the time,

(53:14):
and there is a resettlement program. But the thing that
I've been also taught is that we're really toxic from
our air and our water and our food, you know,
and we're not just going to get moved magically to
new worlds just by virtue of the fact that we're

(53:36):
here and need help. We actually have to elevate ourselves
spiritually and morally and do what we can to be
to be of value to resettlement. But I think that
is also where where the hybrids come in. I myself
do not have any hybrid children, but it makes perfect sense,

(54:01):
especially with the way things are going on Earth today,
with people actually may in a few years not even
be able to reproduce anymore. So thank god we've got
these humanoid relatives. And the other thing that completely resonates

(54:22):
with me is I was taught we're all of the
same species. We're just different family lines, so we look
a little different, but we're not actually different. And that's
why we're able to have hybrid programs and you know,
and and create offspring that are of both. And I
also think that would reduce the fear because a lot

(54:43):
of people are really scared. There's a huge fear propaganda
towards towards ets, especially what we would consider the grays.
It's almost like people think that if they look like
Nordic's or somehow more better than if they appear to

(55:03):
be grace. But I disagree with that. I think we
need to get over our prejudices and we need to
come together and let it be a frequency dominated thing,
which you speak very much about. And yeah, so we're
quickly running out of time. It always happens when you

(55:24):
know we have such a good discussion going on. But
I want to give you a chance, Kevin, to talk
about where people can find you, what you offer, what
you've got going on, what you want people to know,
if you have like a message. It doesn't have to
be channeled from the ponti, but if you know what
is it that they want and how can we work

(55:47):
with them and just let you have the floor to
basically get to say everything you want to say that
maybe I didn't.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Give you a chance to so far. Yeah, I strongly
encourage people to all the ponte on Twitter. So it's
it's at Sandia Wisdom is the Twitter handle, and also
you can follow them on their website at official first
Contact dot com that has the free telepathy Primmer. So

(56:15):
if you want to have et contact, practice your telepathy,
download the premmer. It's free and practice one hundred days. Sorry,
practice for one hundred days and you will have some
form of contact. In addition to that, we have a
group on Facebook called the Sandia Mountain Group, so you

(56:36):
can join that with the different discussions that we have there.
But you know, Twitter is really the best place you
best place for it. But also if you go to
the website Official first Contact dot com, there is an
archive of all the Twitter history, so you can search
by keywords for different topics that you want to look up,
look up of things that they've discussed and talked about

(56:58):
So that's those are great places for for references as
far as sake for you know with me, you can
you can find out more about me at my website
at Pyramids on Mars dot com that has links to
my music, which is all found on band camp, but
you can get the links from you know that website.
In addition to that, a lot of my own personal

(57:21):
e T interviews are are on my website as well.
And I also have a radio show on the Artists
First network, which is artists First dot com. It's uh,
it's it's it's held every Tuesday of the month at
ten o'clock Eastern Standard time, and that's where I interview

(57:42):
a lot of interview experiencers and hybrids and researchers and
that shows were running now for almost nine years. So yeah,
So Pyramids on Mars dot com, Official First Contact dot com,
those are the places where to find us. There you go.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Wonderful, absolutely wonderful. So I guess that's about all we
have time for today. Like I said, I'd love it
if you could come back, Kevin, I'm out of town
quite a bit next month, but probably jeering up for
September would be great. Maybe even have you and Sue
on together. I didn't have you on together this time

(58:18):
because it's only an hour. It's hard to really fit
in what one person has to say in an hour,
and never mind two people. So that's why I splat
it up in the beginning.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
And that's the surface. I mean, we haven't talked about
my other visitations from other star nations that happen, you know,
in Lucid dreams and in the astral I have a
lot of contact in the astral world, So it's it's.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
That I'd love to hear. I'd love to hear. I
love to hear more about it, and I'm sure my
audience would love to hear more about it too.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Up here. That's that's lately. She visited me in a
Lucid dream and she's she's actually an archery and.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Oh wow, that's all.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
These portraits are original portraits from Sue Walker. By the way.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Yeah, yeah, they're amazing. They're amazing. So everybody, we're going
to have Sue on the show in two weeks. My
major announcement is next week. I've been promising everybody a
free giveaway for those of you who come to the chat.
So next Sunday, at noon Mountain time. You need to

(59:28):
be here in the live chat to be eligible to
participate in the contest, and it's just going to be
a random draw, and whoever wins gets a mug and
gets some stickers and gets a beautiful orgone energy generator
like this one. Oops, I'm not even on the screen there.

(59:52):
Now I'm on the screen. Let me make myself big
just for a second. Here's an oregone generator. I have
these loops on my website and so we're going to
do a free giveaway next week, So please do come
back for the live chat and participate and we'll just
have a very I don't know, I don't know what

(01:00:13):
we're going to talk about something, and so that's about it.
So again, thank you Kevin so much for making the
time to be here on the show today. And I
want to thank everybody who came to the live chat
today so much. And also I want to thank those
that are watching the replay and those that are listening

(01:00:36):
to an audio podcast. I'm available and pretty much the
show will be aired pretty much on all audio and
video podcast a NISUS. Thank you, and thank you Denise
for being here. So I guess that's it. For the
show today. Thank you again everybody, and we'll see you
on Wednesday for the Quantum Guide show and then next

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