E224 Nina the Mystic, Jennifer Halcame & Hope Piza – MYSTICAL MOTHERS 2 THE DIVINE FEMININE - Quantum Guides Show with Karen Holton

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Speaker 1 (00:55):
Hi, everybody, Welcome back to the Quantum Guide Show. Today.
I'm very happy to bring on our panel of mystical
mothers Nina the Mystic, Jennifer Hall Came, and Hope Pisa.
For those of you who are not familiar, let me
tell you a little bit about them. Nina was born
and raised in Norway, but moved to Canada as a

(01:17):
young adult to be with her family well. Growing up,
Nina had several spiritual experiences, including sleep paralysis for the
first forty two years of her life, but it disappeared
when she left Christianity and started to study the occult.
Nina makes YouTube videos and offers private sessions for those

(01:40):
who seek Sorry for those sorry, Oh, I'm gonna start
again with Nina. Nina was born and raised in Norway,
but moved to Canada as a young adult to be
with family well. Growing up, Nina had several spiritual experiences,
including sleep paralysis for the first forty two years of

(02:03):
her life, but it disappeared when she left Christianity and
started to study the occult. Nina makes YouTube videos and
offers private sessions for those who seek spiritual advice and guidance.
You can see her website link is below in the information,
she works as a mystic, but spends a lot of

(02:24):
time being a truth seeker, combining all her knowledge to
teach and grow with others, which has become a passion
for her. Jennifer Hall came as a certified Reykmaster Teacher, healer,
life coach, and psychic intuitive with over thirty years of experience.
She's dedicated to helping others heal and align with their

(02:47):
true path. Hope Pisa was a yoga teacher for about
twenty five years in Miami, Florida, and she worked at
the aer Vedic Institute in Pancha Karma for seven years.
Hope continues working with higher frequencies, Master beings and angelic

(03:08):
beings for her own health and wellness and is currently
working on getting her Health and Wellness Coaching certificate. All
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Speaker 2 (03:38):
So without further I.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Do, let's bring on Jenna, fer Nina and Ho. Hello, ladies.
How you doing today, Hi, Karen.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Doing wonderful, good.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Too, Yeah, nice to be here again, Karen.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Oh, oh that's great. That's great. So nice to see
you guys. And of course, Hope, I'm just meeting you
for the first time. Yeah, thank you. Oh, oh, you're welcome.
You're very welcome. So today's subject is the divine feminine,
and that can mean, oh, lots of things to lots
of people. We can look at it in mathematical terms,

(04:18):
we can look at it in spiritual terms. We can
look at it from a historical perspective and also through
the lens of various different belief systems, and so there's
just no wrong way to slice or dice this. So

(04:40):
I thought, maybe, Jennifer, do you want to start off
just by telling us what comes to mind for you
when you think about the divine feminine?

Speaker 3 (04:52):
When I think about the divine feminine, what I feel
is we need to learn how to be just simply
be in who we are, be in our creativeness and
our feelings and all of these things, so that so

(05:17):
that we can better support the divine masculine as well.
We're supposed to be their safe space in these things.
So you know, when I think about it, I think
about those things, the soft the feeling, but also the
strength that comes from that. I don't think people realize

(05:42):
just how strong you need to be in order to
hold all that, all those feelings, all those emotions, and
to hold safe space for others.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Means to me, Yeah, I totally totally agree with you.
And you know, sometimes we think of the male energy
as being the protective, but often it's the female energy
that's very protective. We see that out in the wilderness
with the animals and in nature and everything. So that's

(06:16):
a really, really good point you've brought up. Nina. Do
you want to say a few words about the divine feminine?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah? You know, the first thing I think of is
the missing counterpart of God. You know, they've kind of
completely disregarded the whole feminine aspect of humanity essentially, you know,
according to the Bible, I guess God's a single dad.
I don't know, like like so, yeah, which is very interesting,

(06:50):
you know that they did that and still today we're
being kind of looked down upon, you know, that we're
not equals, that we're not you know, worth the same
as the men are and and and that's still going
on today, you know. So it's quite interesting how that
happened there, Like what what exactly did happen? That will

(07:11):
be some interesting questions to have. For sure, we when
we cross over, I guess, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Mm hmmm, yeah we sure, well, I guess we'll find
out then for sure. And I don't know one of you,
but somebody, I just heard a noise like a train
driving by. I'm wondering if you all have your noise
cancelation box ticked in the settings. I don't know it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It's good. I closed all my windows, I know. I
was worried that the gardener is going to start with
the weed whacken there? But yeah, of.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Course Murphy's yeah, Murphy's Murphy's law for sure. Did you
find it? Okay? Hope, I think it was me. I
just I just yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I'm putting internet connections of course. Yeah, you're you're actually
cutting in and out a little bit. So I hope,
I hope, because we want to hear what you have
to say. It's important, So I hope everything works out. So,
so hope, what's your take on the divine feminine.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Or do you want me?

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I was thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Uh no, I'm good.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Let me give me one second. Yeah, I'm going to
take off my can you guys hear me?

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Yeah, pretty good? Okay, leave that inside.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
So sorry my entering the middle.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Well, maybe she'll come back in. It's not uncommon to
have technical difficulties, you know, when you think about the
Internet and how broad and vast it is, and how
many people are using it for how many different purposes,
you know, it just amazes me that it doesn't fall

(09:23):
apart on us. So we usually have pretty good So
we just give her a moment to come back and
thank you for the patients, for all of you who
are in the live chat. We've got Tennessee Kentucky Bigfoot.
What does he have to say? He says, the garden
is the feminine and the fence is the masculine.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
We love our.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Gardens and they work well. Good point. I've got actually
an illustration I'm going to show everybody when Hope comes back.
And we've also got Denise, and Denise says hi to
Hope and of course everybody else, and we'll just give

(10:10):
her another minute. So what I did is I went
to because I believe, as above, so below, as within,
so without, And so what I did was actually looked
to the math and the geometry of the divine feminine
and the divine masculine. Of course, in reality, you can't

(10:30):
have one without the other. And I took a look
at an image. Well I could show them again quick
when when hope comes back, let me just go and
show you. Well, that's not right, Sorry, guys, present slides

(11:05):
and PDF. Maybe it's in there. I'm sorry, guys, terrible
at streamyard. Let me try again, present, I have an
image file. So why isn't it showing up? Hmmm, image file. Well,

(11:34):
we'll try it this way and see if this works.
There we go. Can you guys see that image?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (11:43):
Yes, okay. So that's by and Fibonacci, also known as
the golden ratio, and it is how everything unfolds in
our three dimensional reality. Everything and so when for those
that aren't familiar, when you look at the square, like,
there's a square with the five, then the eight, thirteen,

(12:03):
twenty one, and then you see a spiral that unwraps
within the confines of the squares. And so the Fibonacci sequence,
if you take five and eight, it equals thirteen. Take
thirteen and eight it equals twenty one. And so that's
how it unfolds and expands in our reality, everything on

(12:29):
a physical level, maybe on a spiritual level. Two. And
so the way I understand it is the spiral is
the divine feminine, that is the creative energy, and it
unfolds within the safe space of the cubes, which is
the masculine energy. So it's not like the masculine dictates

(12:53):
how the feminine will manifest. It just provides some kind
of safety and structure. I don't know personally, as a
woman in a divine feminine being, I think without some
of these squares and divine masculine partitioning, i'd probably go

(13:19):
nets because I wouldn't have any any anything, you know,
raining raining me in or keeping me within an order.
So this is the order of things. This is the
order of things in our reality. And then I have
another quick Oh, Van dark Home is also with us.

(13:42):
Hello Van, nice to see you. I have another image.
I was hoping Hope might be back by now, but
I guess I will just present it. And that's actually
a video file which is not showing up. I don't

(14:03):
know why. Sorry, guys, let me try it again present.
Let me see what happens when I do share screen.
Oh there it is. That'll work. Oh now it covers
up the whole. Okay, but it's not moving. Hmm. Okay,

(14:33):
well this is supposed to be a gift which is moving.
Oh gosh, let's take that one off. See if that helps.
And is that moving for you guys?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
No, no, I don't think Sonna. There's a little bit
of a lag because I'm on the YouTube side here.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
But m yeah, I'm gonna try one more time and
if it doesn't work, then we'll just say nuts to this. Okay,
it's not going to show. So basically what the other
image I wanted to show was it in motion, So
it showed the spiraling unfolding within the cubes. So that's

(15:19):
sort of a mathematical rendition of the divine feminine and
the divine masculine together. I hope glad you came back,
and that gives us an idea of how even in math,
because they say that everything in our world can be
described in physics and through math. So even the math

(15:41):
and the physics supports both the divine feminine and the
divine masculine. So in my opinion, and I'll take it
back to the room to comment the panel to comment,
is that things got had a balance a long time ago.
I think we had more of a matriarch. Then the
patriarchy came in, which started off as the divine masculine

(16:06):
but ended up being a contorted version of the divine masculine.
Brought in the patriarchy, and male dominance, which includes war
and competition and all kinds of things like that, came
in and dominated, and then more closer to our time,

(16:27):
you know, whether it's the rothchilds or whoever organize the
school system. Of course, there's also the religious systems. All
the systems to be very male dominated, and it's not
natural for us to be weighted too heavy on one side,
you know. And it's time that we bring the divine

(16:48):
feminine back. But before I talk about how we can
do that, let's talk a little bit more about what
your take is on the history of humankind. Jennifer want,
do you want to add a few words.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
I have to agree with you. I can see when
it started getting confused and women started getting confused, and
uh caused by men trying to dominate, as you know,
I think, and I probably am going to get a
bit of a beatdown for this, but honestly, I think

(17:27):
the feminine movement, the feminist movement kind of screwed us,
and most women don't even realize it that yes, we
are equal, but we are different. We have different reasons
for being here, different roles and uh and yeah, I

(17:48):
think it just it really messed us up as far
as how we move together, how those both masculine and
feminine are supposed to move together, and not one on
oppressing the other.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Most definitely, Yeah, I agree with you. I went to
university for a while. It took a lot of courses
on Canadian history and on the women's rights movement and everything,
and it started off in Canada. It started off that
women had no rights none. So your husband owned everything,

(18:27):
including the children. He was allowed to beat you with
an instrument as long as it wasn't wider than his thumb.
And that's where the saying rule of thumb came from.
So it was not only acceptable but encouraged that men
would beat their wives, beat their children, own their children.
Women had nothing, And the early suffragette movement was also

(18:50):
tied in quite closely with the banning of alcohol, because
when the men drank, they would come home and beat
their wives more and all their money on booze, and
so that was the big problem. That's why prohibition started.
But I think the whole thing got co opted and
taken over, and then the different kinds of feminism came in,

(19:15):
and there's all kinds. People talk about it as though
it's only one kind. There's the radical feminists, there's the
radical feminists, there's the cultural feminists, there's communistic feminis. Like,
there's all kinds. But basically feminism was originally just looking
at the roots of oppression within the family and within

(19:36):
our society. But like I said, and like what you said, Jennifer,
I think it got co opted and next thing, you know,
again way aut of balance, so way out of balance
with the male dominated or way out of balance with
the female dominated. But that doesn't necessarily serve us. Nina,
what did you want to say about that?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, you know, the whole feminist movement that sort of
started in the sixties with burning the bra and you know,
all of that kind of stuff, you know, looked kind
of innocent, right, but now that we can see you
know what's happened over the years. Here is definitely an
agenda to break up the family. You know. That's you know,

(20:20):
women don't see that, you know, and don't realize that
the family is one of the strongest units that we have.
And so by them being able to break it all up.
And I saw it myself as a you know, being
basically guided into leaving my husband, into being a single mom.
Everything was handed to me, you know, free daycare, free education,

(20:43):
everything was now you don't have that today because they
realized that that's not going to hold up for very long.
But it was just enough to get that my generation
sort of to break it all up so that we feel, owy,
I don't need a husband, I don't need this, I
don't need that, so that we're second. And it's really
has destroyed a lot of things, which of course this
whole woke movement now and now you've got the blue

(21:05):
hair and Karen's they call them a sorry Karen, but okay.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
I hate that for Karen.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
And so now you got these people who are just
completely I mean, they look mentally insane to me with
what they're doing, you know, like it's just they're not
even feminine anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
They don't even look like women, you know. So, and
it's also interesting to see how men are now on
the chopping block. Now men are toxic. Everything is toxic
about men, you know. So, yeah, it's very interesting to
see what's happening here, you know, with this whole thing.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
So yeah, m hope, what's your take on it all?

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Hope for you're there, it's the audio not working.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
Yeah, sorry, so sorry, I'm having such issues with my
internet and I was so excited to be on.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
But it is.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Like the feminist wave and all of that, it's such
a complicated thing because, yes, there were women that were
in terrible situations and because of the dynamics of the
patriarchal system, they couldn't get out of it. So in
a way, Women's live kind of mooped some of those
people into a space where they could be taken care

(22:32):
of and get out of terrible, horrible situations. But like
most things in Western society, it gets taken to, it
gets exploited, right, it's all about It's all like, there
are issues in these things that get exploited and then
it becomes this whole movement negative, a negative situation. So

(22:53):
I think, you know, when people, when there are individuals
who are seeking power and see these structures and these
things happening, they kind of take advantage, you know, they
get in there and they manipulate the situation and make
it something that it wasn't supposed to be in a way.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Yeah, at least that's my perspective. I know it's a
good issue, Yeah it is, but but well said, well said.
So when you look at the human body, whether you're
looking at alternative healing techniques or not, we actually have

(23:37):
a feminine energy and a masculine energy. The feminine energy
rules the left side of the body is from the
right side of our brain, and vice versa. So the
left side of the brain is the masculine energy that's
on the right side of the body. And I think,
in my opinion, it's important to balance those to so

(24:02):
that we have balance within ourselves. What's your take on that, Jennifer.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
I absolutely agree. We're all two different levels, both masculine
and feminine, and when those things aren't in balance, that
is definitely when you run into issues. Uh, when it
comes to healing, you have to holistically approach it so
that you tap into both of those because they both

(24:32):
heal in different ways. But yeah, I agree, you have
to find your balance.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Absolutely, balance is I've come to to find that balance
is probably the most important thing down here, you know.
And you know, male and female, I mean yeah, as
a family unit, like you need both, Like you can't
just have one or the other, and like it just
doesn't work. You know, we've tried that, I guess with

(25:01):
the generation here, it just doesn't work. You know. Kids
need that both sides, you know. And yeah, yeah, most
definitely being in the balance is definitely the yeah, the
most important thing I think in all aspects, honestly, mm hmm.

(25:21):
And we each have it too, so for us just
you know, as an individual to be in the balance
as well, that we're not trying to be too much
of one or too much of the other. It just
doesn't it just doesn't work. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
So yeah, yeah, Well, when we over developed the left
side of the brain, you know, then we fit into
Western society better and the jobs and factory work, and
I think that's part of that plan to make us
docile workers. And and so what I believe and what

(25:56):
I've done in my own life is to exercise the
other side of my brain, so that I'm also doing
enjoying music and artistic pursuits and gardening, and you know,
there's many, many different ways that we can raise our
energy of the divine feminine in our own lives. And

(26:19):
I don't want to leave the guys out of this,
because you know, I got it. I know I'm probably
going to get in trouble for saying this, but I'm
going to say it anyway. I think that a lot
of this transgender issues is because men have not been
allowed to be in touch with their feminine side, and
they have a masculine side and a feminine side. If

(26:42):
we wrote down all the traits that we have as people,
you know, write them all down, we would find some
of those traits would be what we would consider stereotypical
male traits and some would be what we call stereotypical
female traits. So I think the whole thing is rusting
out of the stereotypes and whatever we're good at and

(27:04):
strong at, fantastic do it. I know women that are
amazing woodworkers and carpenters and plumbers. A lot of single
moms had to learn how to do all that stuff.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Too, right, But they can also you know, be soothing
and be the divine feminine too.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
So I don't know if you I want to just
mention quickly. A comment here from the live chat Tennessee,
Kentucky Bigfoot says all the fruit trees were removed from
the cities and replaced with fruitless trees. So much feminine destruction. Now,
that's another really good point. I saw a documentary recently

(27:48):
that said that they switched to male trees in all
the cities because then they didn't have to worry about
seeds and fruits and things like That. Problem is, without
the female trees to absorb the pallen, everybody is now
having allergic responses and it's getting sick for much longer

(28:09):
because of the imbalance. It's just another way to see
what we're talking about here, that we have to have
the balance. Anyway, I'll turn it over to you, guys,
what you think about the male female balance in every
human being.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
There was something I did want to mention in case
anyone is interested. You can manually stimulate these things. So
if you are right handed, so you use your left
brain more often every now and again once a day
or so, pick one of your normal routine type things.

(28:52):
For example, brushing your teeth. You would normally do that
if you're right handed with your right hand. If you
can switch and do it with your left hand, then
it forces your brain to process the information backwards so
that you can get back in balance with both the
male and females side of the brain. And it works

(29:15):
tremendously well.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Actually, it's tremendously hard. I know, I've tried it several times.
It's more difficult than what you would imagine it is.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
It is.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, So I think Hope unfortunately is having internet issues
again and she popped out, but I'm hoping she'll pop
back in. Nina, what's your take on the divine feminine
and balance with the divine mass killing?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
That's interesting that he mentioned the trees. I haven't even
thought of that or even really Yeah, I've never thought
of that. And because I suffer from allergies, not really bad,
and so that is interesting. How and a lot of
people too have you know, over the years, it seems
like it's a lot more than it used to be,
you know, And that is interesting how they did that,

(30:05):
you know, But I get it from you know, because
I guess, you know, people weren't picking up the fruit
and it was just sitting there rotting, I guess, and
then we got tired of it. Nobody wanted to have
to clean it up. I can see why that happened.
And again that's probably because you know where it goes.
We just go to the store. Now, you know, nobody
associates trees with food, you know. So that's that's another

(30:26):
thing that you know, has happened to us. You know,
back in the day, everybody had fruit trees in the
backyard and you did, you can and all of this
kind of stuff. Right now people wouldn't even know what
that is, you know, so lost the touch there, you know.
And and uh, yeah, so that that is very interesting.
But yeah, I know we do need to have that

(30:47):
balance because yeah, you can see it in nature, and
you can see it now you know close to home
here with that, you know that it just doesn't work
if you try to take one out, you know. And yeah,
and then going back to the whole feminist movement too,
I guess it was sort of part of the whole

(31:07):
industrial after the war a sudden. Now it was something
they needed the women to go out there into the
factories to make all the things, and you know, so
it was out of It wasn't because they wanted to,
It was because they had to, I guess, you know.
And yeah, it just got our roles got all screwed up. Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
I think probably gone through the days where only when
parents worked and the other one got to stay at home. Now,
I have to tell you, I have known some amazing
stay at home dads that have just done a great job.
And these children their mother did not have the temperament
or the patience with them, so she went up to

(31:54):
work and the husband stayed home. And that seems to
work quite well too. Oh, good hopes back. I hope
know what you do. And I'm sorry you're having all
these difficulties. I'm glad you're here. Thank you. So what
were we talking about. We were talking about the divine
feminine as far as having to have that in a balance.

(32:16):
We were talking about how many of the trees nowadays
are male trees because there's less cleanup and yard work.
But now everyone's got allergies because the pollen is not
being absorbed by the female trees. So every time we
see things get out of balance, we end up seeing
more problems that nobody realized until we're actually in there.

(32:40):
Did you want to add hope to the conversation.

Speaker 7 (32:46):
No, I apologize cutting in it out, but I knew
that about allergies, which is very interesting.

Speaker 8 (32:54):
I think that I was talking about like.

Speaker 7 (32:59):
The eminine and energy, dieminine and masculine within yourself.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
Mm hm.

Speaker 9 (33:05):
Ultimate nostril breathing.

Speaker 7 (33:07):
Is the techniques that really helps to kind of bring
everything to the censor and unite those energies.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Did you say, did you say breathe using breathing techniques.

Speaker 8 (33:19):
Yes, alternate nostril mm hmm. But that I just I have.

Speaker 7 (33:28):
You know, that's more of an experience from the Vada
expen and in your data.

Speaker 8 (33:36):
You know, they talk about.

Speaker 7 (33:37):
The masculine eminem and the Western channel.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
H yes, yeah, excellent, good point. Good point. I'm just
gonna take a very quick short break and uh play
a promotion for my books, and then we'll come right
back and we'll pick up and we'll talk about how
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divine feminine. I just want to slide in here that
one of the things that I discovered aboard the Big

(36:19):
Ship when I had my ET contact was that they
don't have constructs the way we do. So in our reality,
we have, well until recently, stereotypical ways that women were
supposed to act, and stereotypical ways that men were supposed
to act, and certain ways of taking care of the family.

(36:41):
What I was surprised to find out is they don't
have any of those constructs, but only a biological male
and a biological female will come together and create a family.
They actually are biologically whatever they were born as. They
don't do cloning. And the other thing is when a

(37:03):
couple decides they want to have offspring, that's it. They
stay together until the children, the youngest child is grown
and ready to go out on its own, and then
they'll decide whether they want to stay together or not.
It's a lifelong commitment. And I thought, wow, that's kind
of old fashioned. You'd expect etease to be way off
in the future, but when you think about it, it's

(37:27):
they just naturally have a balance between the divine masculine
and the divine feminine. So I was actually encouraged by that,
and so of course I wrote about it in my book.
So maybe now we could switch over a little bit
to things we can do to raise the divine feminine
in our worlds, in our daily lives. As for me,

(37:50):
I like things like music, humming and singing, even though
I don't do it well. I like to do some painting.
I definitely love caring for my grandchildren because my grown
children don't appreciate it anymore. They want to live their

(38:11):
own lives. They don't want me telling them how to
do stuff, you know. But I love being a granny
to my grandchildren. It's one of my favorite things in
the whole world. Yeah, and even with my pets, oh
my gosh, I treat them like they're absolute babies and
they act like it too. But those are not the

(38:34):
only ways. But I just want to started off with
that and then maybe roll over to Jennifer and Jennifer,
how how would you recommend people strengthen not just the
divine feminine, but also even the link between the divine
feminine and the divine masculine.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I agree with everything you said. Those are fantastic ways
to bring in more feminine energy. I like to paint,
to redo furniture and dance and sing and and despite
the fact that I'm not any good at it either,
I don't care. You just being in yourself, feeling what

(39:17):
you feel, movement within the energies and the frequencies, being
open to those things. Quite often women, because of the
situations or the lives that we feel like we have
to lead, we'll close ourselves off to those things, so

(39:38):
we feel like we have to be both the male
and the female in situations, especially if you're single, mom,
or any of those things. So you can get a
little hard and a little resistant to emotional energies that
come in or you know, frequencies and vibrations that you

(39:59):
want to move through physically and emotionally. But those are
anything you can do to create and to just be
in yourself are all good things as far as connecting
with the divine masculine in that way. I tried to

(40:24):
explain to my boys, because I don't have girls, but
I tried to explain to them that the feminine energy
is in being and creating a safe place for his heart,
and the masculine energy is creating a safe space in
this world. And that's how you have these family dynamics.

(40:51):
Have the sacred masculine that is providing the safe space
in this world to raise children and for her to
be her her and feel her feels and all that
good stuff and be creative. And and he creates that
by going out and the perals of the world, so

(41:13):
to speak, and and h protecting his family in that way. Writing,
I think men got a little confused, and instead of protection,
they think that aggression is skilling way instead of providing.

(41:33):
They feel like they shouldn't have to that she's perfectly
capable of going out and doing the same thing, But
then the children suffer, and so I think in that way,
things got a little convoluted in what is supposed to
be the natural divine flow of those energies.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
How about you, Nina, Yeah, I'm just I'm listening to
you and I'm you know, like the energy male or
female energy doesn't specifically have to be in that particular
body either, Like men can also be you know, nurturing,
and they also have feelings. They're allowed to cry, you

(42:16):
know what I mean. Like we got these expectations, you know,
on how we're supposed to be, and yet we can
be in the flow of both of those energies at
different times. You know, we take on different roles at times,
you know. But the young people I find like they're
getting so confused now with everything, you know, Like I mean,

(42:38):
even a lesbian couple, for instance, you'll notice that one
is a lot more male and the other one is
you know, even in their relationship, they'll take they'll have
the duality there, you know what I mean. And so
do you don't have to be a male to have
a masculine energy. You know. I've had people say that
about me, that my energy is a lot more male

(43:00):
then female. A lot of the times. That's probably just
the way I was brought up. But yeah, but yeah, no,
it's yeah, there's a lot of confusion nowadays with all
of that unfortunately, especially now with the whole you know,
at surgeries and all of this kind of stuff with kids,
and it's just it's just getting weird. Like you know what,

(43:21):
there's money involved, unfortunately, and because once you get them
to have a surgery and now they're on medicine for
the rest of their lives. Yeah, so this is big
Pharma's way of getting more money, and there's a lot
of different, unfortunately agendas there to just to make us
confused and make more money off of us and all this.

(43:42):
But you know, yeah, so we need to kind of
go back to the way it was, but without that violence.
So like, you know, a guy was drinking coming home beating, well,
well that means that he was probably upset about something
he's obviously, so he's not you know, expressing his feelings
in a healthy way, obviously. So so again, you know,

(44:05):
we need to teach the males that it's okay to
be upset, it's okay to cry, it's okay to express
your feelings. And that's so it goes both ways. You
know what I mean. So the males were also you know, suppressed.
I guess back in the day, right they supposed to
be tough and rumble all the time, and well that's
not reality, you know, like they have feelings as well,

(44:27):
and so we need to go back to sort of
you know, yeah, we need to rail it all back
and start all over again with that whole thing. I think,
you know, it's it's just gotten at hand. Like you know,
it used to be that women was at home and
all of this, and you know, so all the householders

(44:48):
not and the NOWSD women are out. Well now they
you know, in some households they feel that, well, the
woman should still do all the housework. So now the
woman's doing twice the work. She's got two different, two
full time jobs now because they haven't quite you know
what I mean. Or if I'm also with the younger women,
they're at home, but they still expect the husband to
do half the work. Well, no, that's not how it works.

(45:10):
That's only if you're working, you know what I mean.
Like they don't. They're so confused now they don't know
what's in or what's out, or what's up and down anymore.
Like you know, like if you're at home and that's
your full time job, Like you know, you don't expect
your husband to come home and cook dinner if you've
been home all day. But yet that's what's going on.
There's a lot of different things going on now that

(45:31):
is just it's so it's so confusing.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
So yeah, yeah, it's complicated. And hope what are your
what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 9 (45:43):
And when I have the time, I feel like, you know,
having a meal, it's kind of a nursing environment, are
they not?

Speaker 7 (45:54):
That meant?

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Right?

Speaker 9 (45:56):
We both have what everyone has.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
Said, But I also feel like, you know, on the
on the little side of it, you know, I don't.
I don't channel things that I can't see, but sometimes
I'll think about a person and reflective energy around me,
and I can I'll start kind of thinking like them,

(46:20):
like talking with him, and I.

Speaker 9 (46:21):
Think, like with the divine energy to do that.

Speaker 8 (46:24):
With it, like speaking of like wearing a nice stuff
like peek coat and just kind of.

Speaker 7 (46:30):
Surrounding yourself with that.

Speaker 9 (46:32):
Nurturing, care taking, creative energy.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
It would be a good way to kind of bring
that into your life.

Speaker 9 (46:42):
If you don't know quite how to do it. If
you don't, you're not really aware of what.

Speaker 7 (46:48):
You know, siminate the masculine energya and different things.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
Your volume just cut out, Hope, And.

Speaker 10 (47:10):
I think that the maybe more like a circular like, yeah,
doing things in the home, working something creative and.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
You and Nina and Jennifer. Can you hear Hope at all?

Speaker 2 (47:42):
I can't really hear what she's saying.

Speaker 1 (47:44):
No, No, I can't understand anything you're saying. And there's
a buzzing in the background. I'm sorry, Hope. I'm wondering if.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
I'm wondering if that because I got the guy weed
waking right outside my window here. Can you hear that? Yeah,
I just have the wings.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Can you hear me now? Yeah, yes, I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Did you want to just repeat the last bit of
what you said?

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Yeah, I just I'm so sorry. I feel like I'm
just disrupting everything. No, I was just saying kind of
like putting on that energy like a garment, you know,
that energetic like in a way that some people might channel.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Sometimes.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
I feel this with people that I'm really connected to,
like I can feel their energy and I can kind
of hear their thoughts and make jokes like them and
that sort of thing, and I think we can do
that with these higher frequencies. Just kind of imagine it
like a garment, like a nice soft pink coat that
you like put on your body and you feel that nurturing, warm,

(48:50):
kind of soft energy that we connect to as being
the feminine energy.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Wonderful advice. I love that. I love that. Don't don't worry.
I'm technical difficulties befall us all, and I just so
appreciate that you came back into the show and that
you're here, and I value everything you have to say,
so I don't don't worry about it at all. I
was going to say, I can't help but say this.

(49:22):
I have always had some very close friends that are
gay and family members who are gay, and I'm telling
you what wonderful examples of the divine feminine some of
them are. They're just make me laugh and they can

(49:42):
just be, for lack of a better word, silly.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Now.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I know that not all gay men are are are
are are feminine, and and I know that, uh, not
all I guess lesbians are feminine, but there's something about
gay culture and I'm not trying to make this all
about pride or anything like that. I don't have an

(50:06):
opinion on any of that, but I have to tell you,
my gay friends have really always helped to get me
to lighten up and to be in touch with even
the silly or what you might consider frivolous aspects of
being feminine, and they have made such a big contribution

(50:29):
to my life. I don't know why it just always
worked out that way. I think I really like gay
men because they were safe for me to go out
with and I never had to worry about any nonsense
from them, and many of them have been closer to
me than brothers. So I don't know exactly how that

(50:49):
ties in with the divine feminine, but I think kind
of it does, and I just wanted to throw that
out there. I'm not against anybody. I tell you what
I don't like. I don't like assholes, and.

Speaker 11 (51:01):
Whether you're a brown asshole or a white asshole, whether
you are a rich asshole or a poor asshole, whether
you're this political persuasion or that religious I don't like assholes,
bottom line, and everybody else I think is great, And
of course I think animals are great.

Speaker 6 (51:22):
Well, I better, Oh, this is funny. Denise says, she's laughing.
She says me either. So I just thought i'd sort
of lighten up a bit.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
And throw that throw that in there. Any of you
anything you want to say or please feel free to
just you don't have to go in order. I was
just trying to keep everyone say hurting.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
That sometimes when you got a panel, right, so I
just want to make sure everyone had.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
A chance to speak, But please feel free to chip in.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Well, there is something I wanted to add to that.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
I have many gay friends and they're beautiful people make
me laugh all the time. But you mentioned something earlier
in the show about stay at home dads and how
we're seeing more of that in there. There was an
interesting study done years ago that looked at estrogen levels

(52:18):
and males and females for the ones that stayed home
with the children, and what they found was that men
who were stay at home dads actually had an increase
in their estrogen levels that allowed them to become more nurturing,
which I thought was a very interesting thing that our
physiology will actually respond to the roles that we take

(52:42):
on within the family. I also think that you know
the standard roles for men and women are quite bs,
to be honest with you. You know, me and Chris
both work from home, and you know, I was a

(53:04):
homemaker and raised a bunch of kids when I was younger.
And what I found was it wasn't quite fair that
he got to go on vacation and go to work
for eight hours and then come home and do nothing,
and I got a twenty four to seven job that
paid nothing. So so as far as I was concerned,

(53:24):
once his eight hour day was over at work, so
was mine. So everything after that we shared. So if
that meant sharing some of the housework, or sharing the
cooking responsibilities, even sharing the homework with the kids, because
if you are at home with those kids all the time,
there is no break. There's you know, I used to

(53:46):
have to get up at three am to get my
exercise in because once the kids woke up, it was Mommy,
I need, mommy, I want.

Speaker 2 (53:53):
You got to do this, you got to do that.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
There's no time for it. So I just found that
very interesting that, as it turns out, nature knows what
it's doing, and it doesn't really matter who stays home
with the kids because your physiology will change to adapt
to the situation and what you need to be doing
in it.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Mm hmmmm, good points, really good. I think it could
be even epigenetics, where we're actually able to change ourselves physiologically.
I don't mean men being changed into women. No, he
doesn't surprise me that they have, you know, the extra

(54:35):
estrogen does not surprise me at all. Another thing I
want to say, circling back to the whole trends thing,
there's a huge movement of what they call de transitioners,
so you don't always care about them, but they are
amongst the most honest people that I have ever met

(54:56):
or known of. And there's tons and tons of videos
on YouTube about people who are realized they made a terrible,
terrible mistake. And again it's like what you guys were saying,
it's fodder for the for the medical industry and big farmer,

(55:16):
that's what it is. And and a lot of people
have made and a lot of those mistakes you can't
undo once they're done, you know. So I don't know
what to say about that. Sorry, I'm all over the
place today, guys.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
It makes me wonder about you know, hormones, right, because
everything has to do with hormones, and I know, because
I just want their MENI boss, So I can tell
you all about that. But you know, like once we
got the birth control pill, right, we're peeing that into
the into the toilet, which is going into our water supply.
Apparently our water supply is full of all these medications

(55:54):
that were you know, releasing down there. So I'm wondering
our men maybe getting ually female hormones, you know. And
then there's also our food I know, soy. You know
a lot of men are eating the soy protein and
the soy this and the so that. Well you know,
some men are getting you know, man boobs and stuff like.

(56:15):
So these foods and whatnot, it is actually affecting our hormone.
So that may have something to do with it as well.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
You know, at the BPA in the water does the
same thing. It's causing adolescents to come on years earlier than.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
They used to as well, menstruating earlier, you know boys
er yeah, yeah, So one.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
Hundred years ago, girls didn't generally reach puberty until after
they were eighteen. And my daughter started to go through
the change early, and I took her to a specialist
and they said, oh, eight years old, it's normal. We
just consider that normal now. And I went, oh my god,
that's ten years earlier. So yes, yes, yes, it's I.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Was eleven when I started menstruating, so that's you know, young.
I mean, yeah, it's a lot earlier than So it
must have something to do with hormone that we're getting
hormones from the water and the food and wherever else,
you know, all the plastics. Yeah, it's got to affect us,

(57:28):
you know. So yeah, yeah, I hope.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Do you want to add anything? No, okay, I don't
know if your microphone's working or not. Oh she can't hear.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Oh gee, that's too bad. I'm really sorry this is
happening for you because I had high hopes next time.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Next.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
And I'm wondering, like, are women going through menopause earlier then,
because you know, we only have so many eggs, so
we start releasing them at the age of eight, I mean,
what age are you going to be going through menopause now?

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Yeah. Also, they're finding more like ovarying cancer and stuff
because of it, because earlier we start the more. I'm
not quite sure how to explain it. It has something
to do with the amount of eggs that are released.
At what age, and because we're starting earlier, it's causing

(58:41):
more a varying cancer in that process.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Too great. It's lucky I didn't get any of that.
I went through menopause at fifty five. I know it's
probably too much information for some of the people watching
the show, but I went through at fifty five. One
of the most amazing things I ever discovered, at least
for me. I'm not a doctor. I'm not giving medical advice,

(59:05):
but for myself was to eat enough animal fat because
animal fat supplies we have to produce testosterone before we
can produce estrogen, and so before menopause, our ovaries are
making all the estrogen. After menopause, every cell in our body,
the mitochondrian mitochondria, produce all the hormones we need. So

(59:32):
we're kind of supercharged if we can survive to after menopause.
And that's a whole another subject for another show where
we could talk about, you know, the child, the maiden,
the mother, and the crone, those different milestones as we
go through life. They're very, very important, and I think

(59:54):
that they're deeply tied in with everything we've been talking
about today. Oh my god, I can help believe it are.
Our time has already whipped through as quickly Tennessee Kentucky Bigfoot,
says Grace Slick, saying, somebody to love when the truth
is found to be lies and all the joy within

(01:00:15):
you dies, I believe is talking about these times loss
of the divine feminine. Good point. Good point. So let's
do one more go round. Boy, the time she goes
flies when we're having fun, Let's do another go around
and tell everybody in the audience what you're up to,
what your offerings are, what your services are, and where

(01:00:39):
they can find you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
I'm Jennifer Halcome and you can find me on Facebook.
I do intuitive healings, and these days I deal a
lot with removing attachments and helping people find the path
they're supposed to be on and live up to their
full potential. You can get a hold of me at

(01:01:07):
Jennifer helk them at gmail dot com or message me
on Facebook.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
Excellent, excellent And Nina.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, so I also do YouTube, of course, all the
social media. I actually tonight I'll be going live on
my YouTube channel there with a free message from spirit.
So I do that. It's like a pickacard kind of thing.
And then I also have a Sunday show, So my
YouTube kind of has two kinds of contents. You got

(01:01:36):
your spiritual stuff on Wednesday and then some other stuff
on the Sunday. But you can always email me if
you'd like to have a private session, or just join
us tonight live on the YouTube there and get yourself
a message.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
From spirit wonderful, Wonderful and Hope. Where can people find you?
And what are your offerings? Is your microphone working now? No? Nope,
I guess not. Well. The good news is Hope's links
will be found in the description below, along with everybody else.

(01:02:11):
So please check out my friends here, subscribe to their channels,
watch their shows, you know, like and comment and help
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important work in this world.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
Oh, I just got a note from from Hope. She
has She says she has no sound at all. Now. Oh,
I'm so sorry, Hope. That's horrible. Oh well, let's get
it all fixed for next time and then we'll try
it again. So I want to thank everybody. Uh, first
of all my panel, thank you Jennifer and Nina and Hope.

(01:02:53):
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me today. I also want to thank all the people
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