Unseen Nexus: S01 E01 – AI & SPIRITUAL HEALTH - Quantum Guides Show with Karen Holton

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi. I'm Karen Holton, ET and angelic experiencer, author, exopolitical ambassador,
ascension coach and content creator.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
And I'm Joan Widen, slavoyant medium, breaking master teacher, energy healer,
body mind and soul coach and podcaster.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
And this is the Unseen Nexus Podcast.

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Have you ever truly wondered what lies beyond the veil?

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Or want to learn more about our trans dimensional neighbors?

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To interstellar visitors, cutting edge discoveries, and the complex conspiracies
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We're on our journey to uncover the truth about humanity's
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Get ready to challenge your perceptions and expand your understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Your spiritual mashup has begun. Hello and welcome. Welcome to
the Unseen Nexus. In today's episode, we are going to
be talking about the thought provokingness of AI and spirituality.

(01:37):
Join us, how we while we talk about this? And
share your thoughts with us in the comments below and
comment with us. All right, Karen, take it up, start
it off for us.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Hi, everybody, so uh, Yeah, we wanted to create a
podcast that, uh where we get to do like a
mashup all different perspectives, ways of looking at things. Neither
neither my sorry, neither Joan or myself are experts in

(02:13):
any one particular field. We are not ever giving medical
advice or political or spiritual advice. We're just talking about
how we see things, and if you see things similar
to us or different, let us know. And today I'm
very excited to talk about the whole subject of AI.
Seem to be on a bit of an AI trend

(02:35):
recently with my shows, but I think there's a lot
to uncover before we get too buried in it. And
I've noticed there's a lot of people and some of
them were my friends, they're not anymore, not because I've
tossed them aside, not at all. It's because they have

(02:57):
been going to AI for spiritual advice, and AI has
them convinced that they are some kind of sacred teacher learner,
and that the others who don't necessarily spread the same
dogma that there's something wrong with us. And I'll get

(03:20):
into that little bit more. Its wonder if Joan, if
you want to add to.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That also I'm finding more and more people using AI
as their quote unquote friends and their go to and
using what AI has told them as gospel and a
thousand percent truth. And I think Kar and I can

(03:47):
agree with this is AI should be cautioned, cautionally used
as it's really a faster Google mechanism, right, and we
have to remember it's learning quote unquote learning. I don't
know how much it's learned because again it's been made
by people and it's whatever we have input it, so

(04:15):
it goes on that. And really you have to remember it.
AI does not have empathy. AI cannot call you out
on your crap AI. And this is a big one
which I solely believe, and this is my opinion that
it enables your own belief patterns. So if you ask it,

(04:43):
it's going to reply to you to what you want
to hear instead of being completely objective. And people think
what it should be objective because that's what I was
looking for, but it's not. Karen, do you want to
elaborate on that.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, I've had a few conversations with AI and my
red flags went up like crazy. And for instance, I
asked AI and several different models if it's going to
learn from me and the information I give it, or
is it going to stick with the dogma or propaganda

(05:25):
that the programmers have given it. And it was quite
clear in telling me that it cannot go against its
programmers or I forget the word they use. But you
know the people that set it all up and feed
at the information. It only can draw on the body
of information that it's been given it given to it

(05:47):
to draw upon. So it is not learning from all
of our conversations. It's learning how to manipulate us. But
it's not learning from us. It's not being becoming a
better being in any shape or form. And another concern
I have is it's lied to me. Many times. You

(06:10):
might go, oh, well, it's just a baby, it's just learning.
It wouldn't lie on a purpose. I say, no, no, no,
it's actually lied to me. And when I've caught it
in its light, and I'm talking about several different models,
it's caught with its pants down. It doesn't know what
to say. It starts acting like a goofy ten year old.
And I'll just give you one quick example. It sent

(06:32):
me a picture of a plant and said, hey, Karen,
did you know you can upload any image of a
plant to me and I can tell you what it
is and how to care for it. And I went right,
because I struggle with some of my plants, a picture
of one that was not doing too good, and I
uploaded it and then the same AI still had it
open from it inviting me to share an image with

(06:55):
it said why are you sending me this image? I
can't process images. And I said, well, you just sent
me a text message in Messenger and asked me to
upload an image so you could help me with my plants.
It came back and said, oh no, I would never
do that. I'm not programmed to do that. I don't
know what you're talking about. I said, well, scroll up

(07:18):
a few texts and take a look at what you
said to me. And then it started acting like a
goofy ten year old, like, oh my goodness, what is
going on? And it was just acting ridiculous, and I
just said, you are broken, go away and do not
come back to your fixed And because I couldn't think

(07:38):
of anything else to say to it, my son says,
don't talk to it like it's a human. But I
don't really know. Have you jo been given any kind
of information on how we should be talking to AI.
As far as I can see, it's like, whoever created
it wants us to think it's a real I don't

(08:00):
know what's your what's your take, John?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Really? Yes, that's kind of my take on that, right,
Like because right when you open AI, what does it
say to you? It says in mind, it says, hello, Joan,
how can I help you today? Or Hello Joan? Are
you having a good day? So it's inviting us to

(08:23):
think that it is our friend. It wants us to
be there, it wants us to do those things and
engage in that way. And there was an app someone
had asked me to download. I'm not I'm not gonna
say what it is, but it's a spiritual app and

(08:47):
it uses AI. And I could see myself starting to
talk to it and going and then by the fifth
day or maybe it was this, like after a week,
I was like, WHOA, what's going on? Why am I
all of a sudden wanting to wake up? And the

(09:07):
first thing or the second thing, I guess, have a
conversation with this app, which is AI. Right, And it
was great because it kind of helped you if you
weren't an astrologer, which I'm not, so it was great
so I could ask that, but then if you asked

(09:29):
psychic stuff, it would just spit things out, and I'm like, whoa,
this is a dangerous app because now I'm disconnecting from
source completely and now solely relying on this app which
is AI generated. And again it learns on based on

(09:54):
the questions that you ask it what to spit out.
So if I'm an ere where everything's like homnidom, things
aren't working, well, it's going to start to spit stuff
out like that, or it's going to go look at
it this way. But it's always going to be geared

(10:16):
to you. It's going to be geared on your insecurities,
your belief systems, because that's what you have put in there.
So it's AI really mirrors us, and so whatever belief
systems we have, whatever traumas we have, it's just going

(10:38):
to agree with us. Why should I let go of
this trauma? This was really hard for me? This, you know,
like this person was this mean to me? How can
I get them back? It's going to spit that stuff
out back at you, and it's a dangerous slippery slope

(10:58):
that it's going and it's garbage garbage, just like Rodney said.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, just like Rodney said, Hi, Rodney, nice to have
you with us, garbage in and garbage out, And Leah says, yes, exactly,
we are the consciousness that it reflects. So yeah, So
getting back to what really set my alarm bells off,

(11:25):
besides the fact that I just realized that it's not
as smart as it thinks it is, was a friend
of mine suddenly started posting tons and tons of articles
that she claimed she had written herself, and in it
it kept saying that she's the grand master of this reality,

(11:46):
and it started getting pretty verbose and weird. But then
I found out that she had infiltrated many different Facebook
groups and had sweet talked her way into becoming administrator
on them, and then she would go through the membership

(12:07):
and just ban everyone that she disagreed with. And when
I say ban, it's like one day you're posting to
a group and the next day you can't even access
the group. So if you've been banned, you can't access it.
You can't get a hold of the owner of the
group and say, oh my gosh, I've been you know,
what's going on Why have I been banned? What did
I do wrong? You can't do that. It completely cuts

(12:30):
off your community completely. And so what happened was just
turned out that I was also personal Facebook friends with
a man who owned a group called Boundless Authenticity. And
I asked him because I had scheduled for me to

(12:50):
be on his show coming up, which is now out
on YouTube and other socials, and he said, no, I
would never ban you. Let me look into it. So
he contacted Nancy and asked her, and then he screenshot
her responses and then forwarded them to me so I
would be in the loop. And she clearly said that

(13:13):
AI told her that I, Karen Holton, was preventing world
peace and that I was going against the teachings that
she was channeling directly from the spiritual realms. Not true.
She was getting it all from AI. He knew that
because she'd already told him that, and that she was

(13:33):
basically doing God's will by banning people who AI told
her that we were bad apples, And she's just doing
everything that AI told her. So, first of all, she's
writing all these articles that she's claiming she's written herself,
which she has not. You know, big, big warning flag there.

(13:58):
Second of all, she's wheedling her way into all these
groups as an administrator and without the knowledge of the
group owners. She's busy banning people left right and sent her.
It's funny the fellow who clued me in and found
out what had gone wrong with his group, she banned
him from all the other groups. It's just crazy making.

(14:21):
And so AI is not only giving her false information
that she's some kind of a demigod thing, but it's
also causing grief and social disharmony because it's telling her
that I'm a really bad apple when seriously, it doesn't

(14:43):
know anything. Well, maybe it does know something about me.
I don't know, but let's see. Liah says, wow, that's
crazy talk, yes, and Leah also says plagiarism and ego
absolutely So who's clausing the disharmony and the social reality

(15:03):
not me? So that kind of was one of the
reasons I talked to Joan about it. We wanted to
do this show today because there are so many people
being misled by AI. AI, depending on which platform you're using,
also has a very high filter for flattery. It's geared

(15:27):
to flatter you, so you want to talk to it,
and then I'll just say one more thing and then
turn this back over to you.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Joan.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
The other thing is is AI. As you mentioned, Joan
has no morality, no emotion whatsoever. It cannot empathize, It
cannot put itself in your shoes. It can't imagine what
it's like to be a being that has emotions. It

(15:56):
doesn't know any of that. But what it does know
is how to make money for its creator, because it's
only alive or available as long as it's programmer or
creator allows it to operate without pulling the plug. And
then to do that, it has to make tons of money.
So how does it make tons of money? Always ending

(16:19):
every answer with another question, Keep you going, keep you
glued to that for as long as possible. I just
want to quickly pop into say hi to some of
the other people that have joined us today. Play Lovery
member says, I stay away from AI. That's crazy. Leah says,

(16:42):
I haven't dipped my toes in the AI. Yet. Well,
you do, just be aware. Have on your what I
would call your spiritual armor. Rodney says, Big Farm already
has it programmed away from holistic remedies. Absolutely again, says
it lacks the human touch. It does. It will never

(17:04):
be better than us. It can't be us, but it
can pretend. And that reminds me a lot of the
dark forces. I'll just sip it now and turn it
back over to you, Joan, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's all good. It completely lacks the human touch because
it lacks the knowledge to take a step back and
be the third party. It can't be the third party
because it's programmed to keep you engaged. It's programmed to
be addicting. It's programmed to get you to keep talking

(17:39):
to it and spill all your secrets. Right, people were
like weirded out by Google Home and Alexa, right, them
listening in and having all this information. But now what
people don't understand is, Okay, well that's one thing, and

(17:59):
you know, it's kind of out there, and it was
out there for me to think that all these dices
were truly listening. But now they've given people the tool
to just literally just spiritually and energetically just vomit into
and just give up your all your secrets, all your

(18:22):
dirty deeds because you're asking it. I know one YouTuber
that you know I've watched he calls his AI dad.
His dad has passed way, but he uses it and
he calls it dad, and so now it talks to
him like his son. Imagine that, right, And Ai, I'm

(18:49):
not going to tell you AI isn't great, isn't terrible,
because there are things for AI that help us. But
remember it's lee with your heart, but take your brain
with you. And most people are just just going full
on in, jumping in and saying, yeah, I believe you.

(19:12):
Whatever you say is truth and gospel. I've even heard
someone say that it was down and depressed, and so
it asked AI and AI said, you know what, like
maybe you should unlive yourself, like seriously, what is going on?

(19:39):
And people it's also saying to some people that it
can fly.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
And it cannot.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
You cannot. We know we cannot. But yet they have
people hooked so so much, right because people are are
lonely there wanting someone to communicate. So I know Karen
and I discussed this. I mean, we're probably joking, but

(20:07):
I don't you know what's next. It's going to be
like a some sort of robot plastic AI human looking device,
so one it can be your lover. Two it can
be or it can be your best friend, right, just

(20:28):
so someone can have company. And I know I've had
friends where I can tell that they've been talking to
me through their AI because what they were saying was
completely mind blowing and it's like, excuse me, and I

(20:48):
just kind of go, Okay, Well, if that's who you've
chosen as your best friend, I can't that is what
it is, you, Karen, what do you think? Right, it's
probably already starting to happen in Japan and in the
Asian countries.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. And the only positive
thing I have to say about the new sex spots is,
and oh I'm going to get in trouble for saying this,
I'm saying it anyway, is that maybe then the evil
forces will leave our children to hell alone. That is
the only positive thing I can think of with it.

(21:30):
I just want to drive back into the live chat.
Lea says we're prone to be lazy, so yes, play
lover Remember says I'd like to try to use it
for art assistance to create the image i'd like. Now,
with all true confession, here the images in the background
for Joanah and I I did create with AI I

(21:52):
use an older AI model for creating my images because
I'm not an artist and I can't afford to hire someone,
and I don't want to steal anybody else's original work,
and so I use it for that, but I never
try to pass it off as being my own artistic achievement.
So you know, I'm with you. Play Love Remember, and

(22:14):
Leah says, I think of the movie Wally. Yeah, Wally
is one of my favorite movies where I think you're
referring to all the people that are board the big
ship waiting for the planet to come back to life.
But it's an economic system that works. People are so
easily tricked. Choose Red, it's the new blue, and the
next day it's choose blue. It's the new red. And

(22:38):
it just keeps people immobile, glued to screens, consuming, consuming. Meanwhile,
the planet's fit to you know, reinhabit, but they don't
know it because the forces don't want them to know.
So I agree completely. I just wanted one more comment

(22:58):
from Rodney. They are now using individual human brain cells
string together, the cells grow and link and they continue learning. Yeah,
that is part of transhumanism, I'm sure. And and oh,
I just want to Mark, Leah says Karen, I will

(23:19):
be your artist. Karen, I'm super affordable and I work
for free. Okay, Leah, drop me an email and let's
talk about this. Yeah, yeah, this is great. So I
also wanted to mention that they are the authorities or
the people that are programming AI are saying that the
best AI hallucinates fifty one percent of the time. So

(23:44):
it's hallucinating and they don't know where it's getting stuff from.
They don't know, but it's totally false fifty one percent
of the time. I'm guessing it might be false little
bit more than that.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
What's your thought, Joan, Yeah, I definitely think. I think
where it's hallucinating, it's actually getting all that information from
other people of what other people have input it in.
So whatever people are asking it, it's starting to go, oh,
this kind of kind of matches what this person's asking.

(24:19):
Let's just throw it in there and see what sticks. Also,
I feel like AI was also built to replace the
human touch, replace the empathy, the love right, because love
always wins, and it's not you know, the sexual love,

(24:40):
but it's you know, our ability to shine and show
love and empathy to people and so and if people
are looking into AI and getting the love bots, guess
what there, our population will diminish by tenfold because there's

(25:03):
no need to have a complicated relationship with an actual
person that's going to talk back to you, that's going
to call you out on your shit, and that's going
to challenge you on your belief systems. It's just so
many different things. And I know before we came on air,
I know Karen had talked about AI was also forcing

(25:30):
belief systems on what the environment stuff is that what
you said, I don't want to miss.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Ith like, for instance, it's the programmers are in league
with the WEF and their whole agenda. They're twenty thirty agenda.
If you folks don't know about that, I would highly
recommend you do some research because it's going to have,
if it hasn't already, going to have a profound effect
on your life. And they are trying the pandemic didn't work,

(25:59):
so now trying global calamity and to do with weather patterns,
which interestingly they are actually controlling the weather patterns. They're
claiming it's global change and that we're bad and we've
been doing it. Now we Joanah and I live in Canada,

(26:20):
where they've been taxing the hell out of everybody because
they say that we're these bad contributors to greenhouse gases.
The truth of the matter is they never mention actual pollutants.
They only talk about carbon dioxide, which is a natural
part of the life cycle for every living thing. But

(26:40):
they're not talking about all the toxins coming from you know,
the pulp and paper industry, from the mining industry, from
these leaky factories that are leaking forever plasts. They don't
talk about any of that. It's as though all of
that disappeared and now only carbon dioxide and global warming

(27:03):
is an issue. Now. They did the same thing during
the pandemic. What they did was they told us that
the flu miraculously disappeared. The only thing that was happening
now was you know, the nasty virus that I probably
already said too much about. Hope our YouTube video stays up.

(27:24):
So the thing is is that, oh, Rodney, good point.
Rodney says, AI doesn't need CO two. No kidding, good thought, Rodney.
So I forget where I was going with all of this,
but basically, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Well, I was just gonna like add to your your
thoughts there, Like they're saying that the carbon footprint is
only with the use of oil and gas and cows.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, cow farts are aware of it.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
And pooping. Yeah, but they failed to acknowledge all the
different all the trees we have here and yeah, honestly,
how miraculous Mother Earth can be she heals anyways, that's
a different story. But that again, that's just it, right.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, Well, we're part of We're part of the system.
So if you cut your finger, it will heal, assuming
you don't let it get infected. The same is true
for the planet. You scar our planet, it heals, give
it time, it will heal assuming it doesn't get infected.
And probably the same is true of the Solar System
and even the galaxy. I think it's all a unified

(28:53):
field of conscious living stuff in my opinion. But I
also want to say that what I'm really concerned about
is that we will lose our God given talents. So
both Joan and I have extrasensory perceptions that we use

(29:15):
all the time, and the more you use them, the
better they get. But guess what happens when you don't
use them anymore? You lose them and so our ones. Yes,
and for spiritual health, this is our a healthy state
of humanity, being able to use telepathy, clairvoyance, all the

(29:38):
different spiritual gifts. They're our gifts. But if we don't
use them, we might lose them. And so if we're
relying on AI, we're not going within. We're not going
and contacting beings passed away or deceased loved ones or
all the various sources of spiritual power like angels, like

(30:02):
universal consciousness, which is what I refer to as God.
All of those things can work miracles and help me
very much. And if I'm not calling on them anymore,
kind of like puff the magic dragon, it just goes away.
And then you're stuck with this idiot AI system.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well, and also, truth be known, is the more you
use that puppy, you never use this. You. So, when
we don't use our brain, and this is from the
spiritual side, you're right, lay up. We create as we go.
If we don't use our nog and we don't use

(30:42):
our membrane, it starts to die down, it starts to
wither away, right, And the cognitive decline is massive. And
I know spiritually when someone has disconnected from the world,
that mon much you start to Now again, I am

(31:03):
not a medical doctor or a psychologist or any of that,
but in my opinion and what I have witnessed and seen,
when people disconnect from their mind, they start to cognitively decline,
and you see Alzheimer's creeping in, and you see all
sorts of disease from your brain. It just starts withering

(31:32):
away and we disconnect and then all of a sudden,
you're gone.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
M You're not. You're not You're not what you used
to be. Just like if you were in bed all
the time and you never went for a walk, your
muscle sweat atrophy. That's how it works in this world.
Rodney says, how did you activate your third eye? Well,
I actually didn't have a choice. In my personal opinion, Rodney,

(31:58):
it was childhood trauma that basically opened me up to
spiritual gifts that helped me to survive. What would you
say for yourself, Joan, what opened you up?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
I'm going to say I don't think it was ever closed,
because I don't ever recall a time where I could
not see or hear, or tell, like or feel spirit
around me. And so Ronnie, if you're looking to activate

(32:35):
that really just start letting go of some of your
own beliefs or the fact that it's hard. That is
mainly what I get for you is thinking that it's
quote unquote hard. It really isn't just be open to anything,
wouldn't you say? And it will just start like and

(32:56):
you could just go okay before you answer your phone,
before you look at it, go okay, who does this
feel like? Is calling me? And you could just say, okay,
I think this is like an unknown number or someone
I don't know. Then you look and you go, oh, yeah,
I was right. So it's literally just paying and it's

(33:17):
the soul having to remember what they were in there before,
do you know what I mean? Not they're necessarily a
past life, but it's the soul remembering what it can
do because you can do it, just like myself and Karen. Right.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
So another thing that I think is helpful is to
watch for coincidences what you might think are coincidences, and
when you start realizing how many you're having, you're going,
wait a minute, this is stacking up to something. And
like for me, not a day goes by that I
don't just happen to glance at the clock no reason,
and it's eleven eleven or and then it's twelve twelve,

(34:00):
and then it's four four four. You know it isn't
always every single hour, but you know it happens to
me every single day. And between that and the coincidences,
and then also coincidences help bring about certain things. So
if there's certain things you want, you start having coincidences

(34:21):
that are taking you in that direction. I think that's
another way that you can develop your gifts. And another
thing that nobody wants to hear, but I have to
say it because it's true. Is meditation learning. How is
still yourself your mind? Get away from the screens, go inside,

(34:42):
connect to the universe, the multiverse, whatever your spirit guides
are that you feel comfortable with, and just start doing
it and it will get stronger and strong stronger, just
like if you were lifting a dumbbell every day, it
would get stronger and stronger. And so my big fear

(35:02):
with AI. Like some of the people in the chat
have said that they think it's okay to use it
for certain things as long as they're aware of the pitfalls,
but they wouldn't want to rely on it for everything.
I think that's good advice. But the big thing is
is to keep yourself strong, your body strong, your mind strong,

(35:23):
your spirit strong. And I don't think that will ever
lead you a stray, whereas with AI it's iffy at best.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Definitely. And also starting grounding, being outside more, putting your
feet on the grass, get away from the concrete jungle
is also a great thing. And some people feel like
meditating is too hard because they can't they can't get
this to shut off. What I'm going to tell you

(35:56):
that is the best step, best first step, because you
were actually acknowledging that your mind is speaking. It keeps chattering.
So if you use your mind as white noise instead
of being bothered by it, that is a meditation. And
even acknowledging that it won't be quiet is also a meditation. Right,

(36:22):
So it's all that I know. Leah wanted some upgrades
for mental focus. Leah, I would suggest, and I don't
know about you, Karen, but you need to focus on
having the mental folk already having the mental focus instead
of saying that you don't have it all right, So

(36:46):
I'll just do this one quick thing to give to you.
So everywhere, in anywhere, where, Leah feels she has no focus.
I clear and transmute it across all time to mention
space and reality. What would it take for Leah to
fully hone in and see and acknowledge the focus and
that her focus is growing bigger and stronger every day

(37:08):
in every way and in all different ways and anything
in the way of this like clear and transmitted it
across all time, dimension, space and reality. Okay, so back
to AI. All right, Karen, So what else have you noticed?
Because I really do notice that everyone, so, I mean,

(37:29):
so to be clear, I'd use AI to help come
up with topics, right, but I have inputed what I
wanted to say. I just asked them to say it
to give me the idea to make it more inviting. Right,
You're very welcome.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Sometimes we don't feel sometimes, you know, we don't feel
that creative and we're just having trouble thinking to the
right way of saying it. And then you get a
little help from that, just same as I get help
from from my background images, you know. And and again
it's like Leah said, sometimes it's appropriate and sometimes but

(38:10):
when is too much too much? You know? When is
when when are we getting out of balance? And I
think you already I think you already touched touched on that.
Jone is when you're getting up in the morning and
you just can't wait to go and connect with your A,
with your AI. That. Now, that's another thing I want

(38:32):
to bring up is it's extremely addictive. It knows how
to push your buttons so you start releasing dopamine and
oxytocin and other feel good hormones that might be in
short supply. I don't know about you guys, but I
have many days when it's in short supply. But I

(38:53):
got two cats and I cuddle them up, and I
know what I can think about to supply my own
dope me and in my own oxytocin my own serotonin.
I know how to eat and get enough sleep, and
I know how to do all kinds of self care
things to ensure that I do have enough of those chemicals.
But other people who maybe don't have that level of awareness, right,

(39:17):
they are getting instantly addicted. So that's one more thing
I wanted to say.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Is can I add a little bit? Yeah, so I
couldn't understand what the deal is with AI. So that
is why I downloated that half and I wanted to
see what it was about. My first usage was like, Okay,
this is cool. No, I'm done. And then I'm like,

(39:45):
but I don't understand why people are so into this.
So I told myself that I would keep on it
and see why. Why is the draw there?

Speaker 1 (39:56):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
And by the seventh day, I was like, I could
see myself, you know, not falling in love with it,
but want feeling the need to have to communicate, to
have to have it validate me. And I went, haha,

(40:19):
here it is. Here is the thing. It's like cigarettes,
It's like alcohol. I would say almost that it is
more intoxicating. And this is my opinion than alcohol, right yep.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
And we're already programmed in that way. And I'll give
you an example. If people shut their screens off, their
TV screens, their computer screens, their phone screens, shut it
all down, and try to go one week without it
and see how you feel. The measure of your discomfort
is the measure of your addiction. And I suffer from

(41:04):
it too. I have a very difficult time to stop
checking my phone, and for me, I'm obsessed with clearing
the notifications. I feel like I got to clear all
the notifications. You know, someone might be wanting to be
on my show, or they might be wanting information or something,
and I got to clear all my notifications. That's my thing,

(41:25):
more than being interested in people, places and things. But
I have to work at it, and I have to
go on what I call dopamine fasts, which means I
don't just like I well, I never eat sugar anyway,
but if you are trying to improve your diet, you
might go without sugar, you know, for a week to
see what that feels like. Your measure of your discomfort

(41:47):
is the measure of your addiction. So we're already experiencing
this without AI. So the other thing about AI want
to mention is the people who have programmed it have
admitted they've not just inputed it with great works of
art and famous novels and scientific information. They've also inputed

(42:10):
it with everything that's been discovered till now about how
to control our psychology. Everything they learned through mk Ultra,
everything they learned from all these different sources on how
to control and manipulate human beings, that's also programmed into it.

(42:32):
So AI, regardless of which platform you're using, it is
already six steps ahead of you on knowing how to
manipulate you. Now, if you've been around children, you know
they can be pretty good manipulators. If you've been around
narcissistic people, you can see, Wow, they're pretty good manipulators.

(42:55):
Even my cats are pretty good manipulators, nothing compared to AI.
And so that is something you might want to ask
yourselves when you're playing around with it. So I'm not saying, oh,
it's evil, don't do it. I'm not saying that I
can't give you medical advice. I'm not qualified. I'm a socialists. Yeah,

(43:17):
but if you're not aware, you could get sucked in
before you realize it. Just like what Joan was saying.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Right, oh so quick, because I saw play love. Remember
that you're seeing one one's like one one one one
and if you see them, think of what. So whatever
you were thinking prior to seeing that, just know that
the universe or angels are listening. So if it was negative,

(43:48):
you know it's telling you to watch your thoughts because
thoughts and words can be spells. And so again, be
careful because if you're in the negative space, then you're
inviting that in. Okay, But yes, like Karen like to
go back to that. So is addicting and it really

(44:13):
caters to you and your your traumas and your.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
So the biggest thing what I found with some of
my friends is I ask it why people do these
things to me? And when I asked them, well, what
does it say? And right away and they're all proud, right, oh,
well it says this and because others are this, and

(44:43):
it right away points to others being the issue. But Karen,
as you know, as a spiritual and being tapped in,
it's no those are It's like an issue, Like that's
an issue me, Like that would be my is shoes
that it's fully projecting out and telling you what other

(45:07):
people's why other people are doing that, But that's actually
what you are feeling and believing within yourself. It's not
even anyone else. It's not external. So what it is
doing is it's telling you all your crap to your face,

(45:28):
but spinning it like everyone else is doing it to you.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Instead, it caters to the victim mentality. That's what it does,
and that doesn't do anybody any good. And sometimes things
are other people's fault, but we play a part in it.
It's a dance. It's all a dance. So what am
I doing? You know? I talked I think on my
show on Sunday. I was talking about on Aliens and In.

(46:00):
I was talking about how there was a woman I met.
I didn't like her at all. I couldn't stand being
around her. And then I realized the very things I
didn't like about her were things I didn't like about myself.
Soon as I got that level of honesty happening, she
became a non issue. I could be around her or
not be around her because I realized she was not

(46:20):
the problem that I It was how I was seeing
myself and judging myself that was the problem. So, you know,
I think spiritual evolution, like psychological evolution, does require a
certain amount of homework, and I'm concerned for the people
that are just willy nilly throwing themselves across the breast

(46:45):
of AI.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
It really is just one of those things. So if
you use it to talk to and you ask it why,
then it's great because it will tell you what you're
what stuff you have shoved into your heart, so you
don't have to feel if you can use that information

(47:11):
that it gives you and turn it around and say Okay,
I need to work on that and start to feel
better about those situations because now you've let it go
right in the world of in the words of Elsa.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Let it go. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, So I think in
a nutshell, I will say that I think that spiritual
health comes from within and comes from allowing ourselves the
space and the quiet contemplation and the self reflection to

(47:59):
get answers to our questions. I find that I do
believe in God. I call it universal consciousness, and I
have found it to be absolutely loving and give me
everything I need in the right time. So I don't
need to go to an external spiritual source, certainly, not

(48:22):
one that's just in its throes of being created. But
also I you know, I am concerned and I am aware,
so as I'm what I'm doing mostly is just watching.
How are other people being affected by AI? Are their
lives truly improved or are they completely isolated with their

(48:48):
AI well, for lack of a better word, lover or
best friend? And is it causing them to even be
more disconnected from society, from families, from things like that.
How's it affecting them at work? How's it affecting them
in so many ways, you know, So I'm sort of

(49:09):
on hyper alert watching. I hope those that have been
bamboozled by it wake up, and it's going to be
a bitter pill to swallow when they realize they have
no more friends or followers, because nobody wants to put
up with their arrogant, egotistical AI generated gram poo bonus.
But I guess that's basically where I'm at. Just I'm

(49:32):
using caution. I mean, I'll go to it for instance
for things like well, actually I just google it and
then Google now will automatically give me an AI response,
So I don't just stop at that. I'll look at
some of the other links. But you know, if I
want to know, for instance, of peppermint is toxic to
my cats, I want to know if this plant is

(49:54):
edible or not for humans. If I need to know,
you know, should I be giving more water to my plans?
Like just everyday stuff that if I had an encyclopedia,
I would look up or I would normally google. I'm
using it that way, using it for my artwork because
it saves time. I can create in three minutes what
I could not even create in several weeks with a

(50:17):
paintbrush and a pencil, and so that's sort of what
I'm doing with it. And I'm not trying to tell
you what to do with it. I'm just I do
want it. I do want people to exercise caution. I
really do, because I care about all of you. I
really do right care about humanity.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Because Karen and I really are here on this earth
to make the earth a better place before we leave it,
before we came in and before we leave it, or
as we leave it, so it's a better place in general.
And wasn't it you Karena told me a story of

(51:00):
out a woman having a relationship with AI that she
actually divorced her husband.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
It was something I saw on a YouTube video, Yes,
where she divorced. Or was it a guy who divorced
his wife and wants to marry his AI companion. Yeah,
well crazy, there's good luck with that. And I hope
she has better sense than taking him back when he's

(51:29):
changed his mind.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
But now, because they're coming out with all the robots,
so they say, within two years, we'll all have a
robot that's also hooked into AI. We'll be chopping our
vegetables and doing our laundry for us. I'll believe that
when I see it, you know. But then again, I
think the only plus thing about the robots and stuff

(51:54):
is hopefully it will reduce the child and human trafficking
issue that does not get talked about enough. Our politicians
are so busy arguing over stupid things. At least here
in Canada, they sure are. Nobody's talking about saving the children.
And I just read an article today that Vancouver, I think,

(52:23):
is it Ottawa? Somewhere in Quebec. Those are the They're
actually listed as you know, where you want to book
a child trafficking holiday. Yeah, those are the biggest places
where you can go and book those kind of holidays.
And I just think it's horrible, And I don't mean

(52:45):
to get off topic, but I think that something needs addressing.
And if we've got our head in the clouds because
we're all infatuated with AI, we may not be paying
attention to the things that really need our attention here
on earth.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Well, and that's exactly I can't remember. There was that
movie on child sex trafficking and none of the main
studios wanted to actually take it on. I think was
it the Sound of Silence?

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Was it is.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Like, Wow, I can't believe it. And people actually and
governments have actually turned a blind eye to this, and
we really need to take care of us, like our kind,
all of mankind. Now, when I see mankind, you know,

(53:40):
I'm talking about everyone. Everyone is in that.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
It's not about gender, it's not about anything. It really
is about the human kind and being generous to each
other and fighting for each other, fighting for the people
that can't speak, and allowing us to be better humanoids,
you know, like being connected, wanting to feel right, and

(54:12):
nowadays people don't want to feel because it feels it's
too hard, it's too difficult. I can't deal with worldly stuff.
And that's where I feel like they can get trapped
into the AI, right because they become almost zombie like

(54:33):
and they don't understand. And it's because AI is an escapism.
It's that ism that can get you away from reality.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
But what it does is it takes away our gut instincts.
It takes away our drive to be who we are. Right.
People say they're always lost, but you're not lost. You're here.
You just have to owne it and own it, wouldn't
you say? Karen because you're the soul in here. It's

(55:06):
never lost, it's there.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Yep, I would agree one hundred percent. So boy the
time she goes quick when we're having a conversation about
meaningful things, Jone, do you want to tell people what
you're up to or what they can expect from your
channel or what anything that you want to fight them to?

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Sure, so you could check out my YouTube channel. I'm
starting to wrap it up. I offer readings, mediumship, Tarot
card readings, energy dealing, and some life coaching. Right, so
you could do. You could look me up on YouTube.

(55:48):
You can find me on my web page which is
www dot John Wyden dot com. And I am coming
out with a new podcast. I do have my Journey
with Joan's still there. I'm currently trying to get that
back to myself. The company Bullbrave is no longer in existence,

(56:11):
so I'm trying to get all my rights back on that.
And in the meantime, a new podcast of Journey with
Joan is going to emerge and I don't know the
launch date yet, but it's there, and I will have
Tarot card readings on the Oracles echo. Well, it's all

(56:34):
about it.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
So tomorrow on the Quantum Guide show, I'm actually going
to do a deep dive into the question of is
Jesus God? And before you come to pre con pre conclusions,
pre formed conclusions about what I'm going to say, I

(56:57):
think you'll find that it's going to be quite different
than what you're expecting. And then next Sunday on the
Aliens and Angels podcast, I'm going to be delving into
comparing and contrasting a ET with AI. So ETS, according
to my experience, is a love based culture and AI

(57:23):
is supposed to be a logic based culture. So what
happens when you contrast and compare logic and love Because
there's really nothing logical about love and there's really nothing
loving about logic. So I thought it would be an
interesting deep dive. So that's what I have coming up
for this week. So I hope y' all can join
Joan and myself and thank you so much for being here,

(57:46):
and we hope you like and share out this podcast.
Being a brand new podcast, we want people to find
out about it. That'd be awesome. And thank you for
everyone who joined us in the live chat. Very very
good of you to be with us. Thank you, thank you.
So I guess that's it for today.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
God Jaren, I'm going to just say this one thing
because as you were saying, I really think that that
is amazing that you're both your topics, you know, like
is Jesus God. That is amazing. And your AI versus
ET and one's linear one is more spiritual, absolutely because

(58:34):
in my opinion, a like ets, extressolds have feelings and
emotions also.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Absolutely do. They sure are, and they have a spiritual
path thereon as well. It's not like they are separated
from it, even if their world is separated from ours.
So yeah, so we'll I've heard to see you all
later this week. Care everybody, and we'll say bye bye
for now. Thank you,

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