Episode 57 - May The Fairytale Never End

Finals Fever.
Ben Hunt, Stay or Leave?
Super League Finals.
NRLW Finals.
Ray Price Player Profile.
Bunker Should Be Blown Up.

Episode Transcript

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Hi, I'm George and I'm Nick, and welcome to the Quick Hands Rugby
League Podcast. This is the podthat tells her luck it is. They
don't know what to do. Theydon't what to do, they don't want,
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two years ago creates cat like Lancy. Quick Hands Rugby League Podcast, Episode

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fifty seven and it's good to beback boys, missus. Last weeks I
was thank you for the nice comments. I didn't listen to the show.
Unfortunately I was crook. I spoketo George on the day and you guys
would not have wanted to hear meyour flag out. I wanted to hear
me one of normal. But yeah, I had a big weekend in Townsville.

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I'm sure we'll get on that.Well. Funny you say that,
because Joseph Fern has got her eyeseverywhere. Man, she didn't see we
got to shoot down this rumor.Okay, tell me if it's true.
Apparently before you went to Townsville,Paramouna sent you on a mission because they're
looking for a strike player. Yeathey gave you a little bag to give
them ab our homes. And whenyou give the back of our homes,
take a photo and put it onTwitter that Josephina told me did you do?

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That? Was not entirely untrue.Every every lie has eighty percent truth.
I'll tell you what happened. Howdid I be to get that rumor?
I want? She's good. I'mnot gonna I'm not going to deny
or confirm the first part of thatbecause I'm under legal obligations NDAs one night
when it comes to paramounter. WhatI can to you is that I was
at the Ceview Hotel in Townsville,was big old Vow and we're having a

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great time, and you know,I came out of the bathroom and then
Vow went in and next thing Iknow, I just saw him running out,
ran across the road, jumped intothe water and apparently a fishing picked
him up in Fiji the next morning. So maybe he had a bit too
much. I don't know, butyou can't can't confirm or deny that.
Well, yeah, she's good,but look when it comes I mean,

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look, when it comes to scoutingfor Paramatta, there's you go. I
genuinely start with nursing homes in thelocal in the local area. Yeah,
but they didn't make the Grand Finallast year. Yeah, next question they
did. Where are we again?That's right, episode fifty back, went

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back way. It's week two ofthe Sennis. I was going to say,
in the can, but where isit? It's in the can,
it's in the can, in theit's in the bag, depending on in
the can. Don't knows well,don't know. Well. I enjoyed listening
to the show last week. Ifelt really jealous and I wasn't on it.
But yeah, it was tough work. It was tough work. Glad
to have you back. Thank you. It's like, I'm glad to be

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back. So why don't we hitup with controversy corner? When do we
get right into it happening? Actually, coin referee has been dropped. I'm
sure everyone saw that Rooster's Storm game. There was a gluttony of errors,
some especially the Harry Grant knock on. The thing that got me was that

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he was in perfect position. Hewas like just meters away, he had
the best view. I don't know, does the pressure get to them,
like what is what is it?I mean, people on nosebleeds people sitting
in the nosebleed section of the standsword was a knock on and Klein couldn't
so he mustn't need specsavers, don'tWas he doing an ad for spec saves?

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This is what I don't understand.Why can't the why is the bunk
not allowed to go? Hey?Man? Pull it backles and knock on?
But what about the reason he gave? He said he put his hand
under the ball. If you lookat it again, Harry Grant's hands didn't
even go underneath the ball ever,So where did you see that? Look?
I don't know. I'm not hereto defend the referees, but I
suppose in his defense he gets onelook at it. Well, we all

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got replays in that, but Imean one look was enough, wasn't it?
It wasn't everyone because it was reallyreally bad. And then they went
on to score from that exactly.I think he pigged you back them up?
The didn't he? With the penalty? There was also the high shot
on I forget who it was onnow. I don't want to be a
hypocrite here because to me, thatstuff just I wouldn't look at it twice

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that's the game I grew up watching. But in the modern game, that's
ap penalty every day of the week. It is appenally definitely, but it
shouldn't have got to that stage.Rousters. They shouldn't have been behind by
one point when when you consider wherethe Roosters came from, exactly it was,
they didn't you're right though, theydidn't deserve that. Yeah, but
any day of the week, it'sa penalty. If it's around twenty three
game or something, it's a penaltybecause it's a big final and it's the

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last two minutes. Maybe the pressurewas so so he's been didn't he referee
the last two grand finals? Originand Origin? So so he's not referee
in the Grand Final because we've gottwo games this week and one of those
two will get the gig. Youthink, so he has been dropped,
But he has been dropped to thebunker. Though, don't be too sure

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that one of these two because thosetwo could have a blund, both have
blunders this week, and then bringanother guy in. So I wouldn't discount
you know who I'd bring in theseto have a have a shock. I'd
bring in Casey Badger or the showI would, I would, I wouldn't,
I wouldn't say nat I would.You know, once upon a time
we used to turn a blind dieand you know every game had mistakes,

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referee mistakes. It's part of it. Yeah, but you know what the
scrutiny now is so fine tune andthe media brings it up so much when
something blatant happens because there's a lotof things we let go, trust me,
in the game. There's so manyforecasts when when you're at the game,
every game, how many do yousay? Every game? Every game?

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But you know we say something,but we don't blow up. But
when you see blunders in a semifinal of that magnitude and as Alreadie alluded,
the game swung on those two bigmistakes and it was more. There
was more, and it was more. It was what did I say this
year is going to happen. It'sgoing to be a referee and we got

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it's happening. Okay, now,great, he's dropped. But guess what
the rusters areround. M rusters aregone the whole year. They started training
November December, no genuine normal tostarted training. Okay, there's nothing worse
than than when it costs you agame, when blunders cost you a game,
you have locks, you have acomp I mean, that's what happened.

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Yeah, that's what happened. Okay, so great, he's drive.
But they really should never have lostthat match. Should they know they shouldn't
have. But there you go,they did off the off the back of
those are off the back of thoseareas. But both of you guys know
my love for not only the referees, but the bunker, the bunkers,
I mean, and you alluded aboutthe bunker getting involved. You know what,

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less the bunker gets involved, Iagree, I agree, But my
point is we see the bunker getinvolved so often. Cut that out and
sticking knows in when we need it. That's all I'm saying. Pay anything
to help them obvious error stick inthose Yeah, if it's one hundred percent,
but it was so obvious. HowI've said this before because my pet

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hate is when the team scores atry, and we've been there in the
stands, the fans are celebrating,cheering, the goal kicker takes the ball,
puts it down on the tee.It's like two or three minutes has
passed. The referee does this andthey just gets sucked out of everyone.
You know, I agree, getthat crap out of the game. But
when something obvious happens, it's realsimple. Pull it back. It was

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a knock on, that's it fiveseconds. Is it just me? Or
have you noticed that this year we'rehaving more controversial moments with the officials than
we've had any other year. Yeah, and I think even even in the
nineties. And I think it's downto two reasons. I think one because
we're looking with a magnifying glass nowand it's reported on more, like George

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said, in the media, andto this, there's too much technology said.
I'll give you an example. It'sjust my humble opinion. Right,
look at the obstruction rule, whichhas been a mess for a decade.
Right, I still don't understand it. He's my argument, Right, teams
attacking, whoever it is, team'sattacking, they get two three on the
blind. Whatever they cut through,they score, The fans celebrate. The

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fans of the team who conceded getthe ships. Right. Then the referee
goes to the bunker for a possibleobstruction. Now he's my gripe about it.
No one saw it, no onenoticed anything. Now we're all looking
at it because it's been pulled back. That's true, right, And we'll
see some ridiculous decision where the playerwho is obstructed don't even physically it's physically

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impossible to get across and make anattempt to tackle, because he's three or
four meters away. Right on,that rule at least is black and white,
isn't, Yeah, it is,it's very clear. My thing is
that's that's why they take a dive, because this is where I believe we
should draw a line as in becausebecause then it becomes scrutinized when if the

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trial is just awarded, no onenotices anything, No one looks at anything,
but not even notices it until itgets pulled up, right, And
he's my thing when we're talking aboutthe bunk, and we've spoken about soccer,
you know, goal scoring situations andall that. He's my thing with
the rugby league unless it's foul play, right, unless it's a try scoring

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situation like you added the ball touchedaground or whatever. If the ref doesn't
call it in normal play, playon, and yeah there'll be mistakes,
but guess what, there's mistakes anywayif the ref does if it doesn't get
called in normal play, it goesforward. That's how I say it.
You know what, the microphones onthe refs, get rid of them.

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The worst things ever happened, getrid of them, because because the refs
can't control the game with their mouthsanymore. And I'm going to back to
Billy Harrigan. Imagine if Billy BillHarrigan was marked. Imagine the controversy then,
the things that they said to eachother. Okay, okay, but
they've taken that ability away from refereesnow, and they've they've they've they've got

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they've got to be so generic,and they're hoping that the bunker can bail
them out of trouble every time.Just ask your question, because I really,
I honestly really do feel sorry forthe referees because they're always No one
talks about the bunker. It's alwaysthe rest exactly, and and like they
they really don't have basically, they'vegot no balls anymore. They can't write.

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Why why would anyone want to bea referee? What attracts you to
doing that job? Shoping me Ishould have want Like, what what would
attract someone to want to do thatjob? To be the best in the
house, even in the old days. Right if the best referee is the
one you can't remember. Yeah.So so if a referee hasn't out of

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this world performance, you know what, they're going to get nothing right,
that's good, that's positive. Anythingsouth of that they get hammered. You
know what I mean? Can Ijust elude something the difference between back then
and probably it started with Super League. I think there's still part time,
but they're not part time anymore,and that's their job. That's what they

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do. I know. And look, I'm not I'm not. I'm not
saying in terms of the mistakes theymake. It's human nature. But what
did I say couple of weeks agowe asked the players better every week and
every year. I'll throw it backto you, guys. Do you think
the referees are improving every week andevery year? No? I don't.
I think you know, I'm backwards, thank you, because they don't have

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what Bill Harrigan had anymore. AndI would be no different by the way,
if if if there's a call thatI'm fifty fifty on, I'll go
upstairs, which they do anyway now. But there was a point where the
refused to go upstairs. Now everyTroy goes upstairs. That's why we have
this three minute delay when everyone's celebrating, the guy's waiting to keep the conversion

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and it gets pulled back because thebunk is looking at it. Right,
So the referees almost can't make mistakesanymore because they can just blame it on
the bunker. So in a way, they've lost control. They've lost their
ability to control the game. They'vegot that power. They've taken the power
off the ref Yeah. The wholepurpose of bunkers to support them, but
the bunkers now got control and thereferee has got nothing. Yeah, they're

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almost like puppets. The bunkers shouldonly be called upon if the ref needs
them. The referee goes man.I didn't say that, but before the
bunk and when we had that videoreferee, that's how it was. The
ref would decide whether or not hewanted to go upstairs. Ye. Now
every try gets looked at exactly,and a lot of the controversy that comes
out it's not because of what thereferee ruled, it's what the bunker has

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done to over But the referee takesthe heat but the referee thing gets the
heat because everyone forgets about what thereferees car was originally. They just remember
the bunker's corps and then the refereecops. Now, I wouldn't no,
I wouldn't. I wouldn't count.I wouldn't count. I wouldn't count Klein's
performance in that because it was justthat he made some blatant mistakes. Yeah,
that wasn't terrible, but but overall, I think that's the case.

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Overall, I think so, Ithink, so, you know what,
I hope somehow it improves for nextyear, and I hope the next two
weeks there's the incident free because Ialready said it and I believe it.
It's the first time I could saythat the referee assisted one team winning a

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semi final. I've never I've neversaid that in my life. You know,
usually they got the call, butthey were a better turn. Okay,
but yeah, I seem to rememberParramatta beating the Cowboys last year with
a forward pass that was that threemeters forward but one a minute, a
bit of tim of the night.But that problem doesn't matter. Yeah,

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I know, Yeah, I alwayssay that if you're the better team on
the night you got, but lastweek was ridiculous. But you know what,
he got dropped to the bunker.Gee, that doesn't sound right,
doesn't anyway? He got dropped tothe bunker. Okay? And and for
me, the referee, the referee, what's that? The referee who had

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his father played for paramount on thewing Atkinson Akinson, you see him?
I think I think the problem withKlein is that, Yeah, by all
accounts, he's our best referee andhe had a really bad night, but
they still need his experience, whichis probably why he's in the bunker.
And we all make mistakes. Butthat was terrible. Yeah, that really

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was That was terrible. That wasreally bad. I feel I really feel
for the Roosters fans because they wereon a fairy tale run and it's and
it should be continuing, should becontinuing, but it's not. And like
I said, you tell them thatthe referees dropped in that, I don't
care. Yeah, anyway, becausethey're watching them all that. Let's move
on from good old astro Kin theTigers. Some good news for the Tigers.

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They've they've they've either they have resignedor they're going to resign. Fullback
Durin Buller for for the four yearsabout a two and a half million,
two point seven million deal. Ithink that's a really really good move.
It is, well, thee potentiallythe rookie of the year. Kids been
a kid's been a sensation in apoorly performing team. Well I like that.

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Yeah, I know, that's greatnews. I was just going to
say, look, I'm surprised thatdid he have a contract for next year
as well? I'm not sure,but apparently started the season on yeah,
eighty grand or whatever it was.Look, keeping a kid like that good.
They've started the rebuilt. They've startedwhat they talked about because apparently they've

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got lots of kids like that comingthrough. So good on your guys.
I mean, let's hope that,you know, the accelerates and we see
and we see more good because youknow what we saw this year and last
year, in the year before andthe year before that, you know,
it's not good. It's not right, not for West Tigers. Now.
In some more positive news for theclub, they've also appointed Chris Hemington as

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an assistant coach to Benji. Iknow he's been running as a trainer for
a few years and that so Idon't know how he be is an assistant,
but he's he's you know, he'sTiger's DNA, right, So that's
and Benji's obviously close to him.One of Benji's guys, people who trusts
in the box. Yeah, andwe've got rid of fern Fernst, which
apparently he had a heated argument withRobbie Farre. Really that Farah is always

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at the center of anything to gosouth, right, it was it was
reported on Fox Sports Robbie farre hada heated argument with David Ferner right before
Ferner was let let go rightly.Interesting, Faris seems to argue with everyone.
Well, it's what be like whatBenji says, He goes, I
love the guy, but it's likea brother that I love and hate,
you know what I mean at thesame time, You know what I mean.

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Apparently they fight like cats and dogs, but they love each other something
like that. Now, this nextone is subjective. It's truly up to
you guys to decide. But forme, after two good news points for
the Tigers, I've got some badnews for the impossible. Impossible What do
you got for US? Chairman Leehedgepen Talis has been extended for a further
three years. This is my personalfavorite part because the press statement is he

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has full support and backing of theboard, by the way, the board
that he's the chairman of. Yeah, I love it. He's bunkered down,
he's gone, I'm here for anotherthree years. When you're like,
he's the best, should show youhow to destroy the club? Just follow
me. He's the best giving threeyears? Yeah, whatever? In the

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bottom two again in three years.While we're talking about signings the Raiders,
they've extended Corey Horsbrow to the endof twenty seven, three year extension.
Didn't didn't see a dollar value inthe article that I read. Whatever money

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they've given him, Nicola, they'rejust blame. It is an origin.
I wanted. He's still a cat. He's still a cat. I wanted
to call out. I wanted tocall out. I wanted. I wanted
to call it out. Andrew Webster, which the Warriors coach. He's achieved

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a pretty unique milestone in his firstseason as coach. You guys are aware
of this. He's equaled Brad Arthur'srecord of making weeks three of the finals
once. Yeah, after took elevenyears to do it. Well, he's
there, so I wanted to callthat out. It's also won one game
more than what's his name fit's gibbnyeh. Three games played, three finals

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gamesters one one after started in twentythirteen, and Webster's match this year is
one he's gotten past week two ofthe finals. He's standing, man,
I love him. He just great. He's great. The Warriors got spot
on. George. You had somecomments about the team. No, no,

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The only thing when we're speaking beforeall the media, and definitely the
pods I listened to are called inthis particular Warriors team team that Webster who
put together. Let's let's let's makeno mistake. Webster walked into this team.
He did the magic, no nodoubt about it. But the team

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got put together by Nathan brown Itdid that last year just before he parted
ways with them. All they sackedin Le's good rule before they sacked him.
Okay, so all these players,but it's the Saint Georgia back road
called jackson Ford. Jackson Ford,all of them, even even for like

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he brought all these kids he did. He brought them all over and that
look, I'm not saying that Browniecould have the same result, because I
mean west who has been amazing.Yeah, west of Who's been amazing.
But let's not let's not sugar coated. He walked into this team, the
team was there, and you know, Brownie can put together a team.
We know that, We've seen thatin the past. The coaching part of

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it is still subjective or you know, I'm in a question, isn't isn't
Browny working with the nrlw at paramouny? Now? Is he working there?
You're not the best? Something onthere too? One thing I want to
say about that, right, didhe Flanno his commentary in the Warriors game?
What is one thing that Flanner saidabout Webster or about the Warriors?

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He goes, You've got to givecredit to Webster, he goes, because
there's a lot of those guys areplaying in that team. They're in career
best form, absolutely best form they'vehad in their whole careers, absolute,
including Shawn Johnson. Webster, he'sbrought the best out of all. That's
what makes him special. Yes,put him together, yes, but this
guy's got and let's not forget playerslike Wade egana Egan, you know what

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I mean? It was good lastyear. Yeah, but no one was
talking about exactly. Yeah. Yeah, he did the magic Webster who and
we've been praising him more jaw andJohnson. Obviously they were missing Shawn Johnson
against Penrith and it was at Penrithon a Saturday afternoon. But I kind
of throw the steam's going out ofthe balloon here, like they've had a

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great year. But they bounced back. But Webster was smart because he thought,
you know what if he gets injuredin this one and we lose,
then we're lose him next week.So let's just rest him for this week.
Yeah, our big games the weekafter and look at him forty points
against the It's just smart thinking he'sthe ball. He's outstandingsationally. Yeah.
Look, I don't mean to beable to a line or don't want to

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take anything away from who you know, I'm a fan, but I just
wanted to put put that out inthe airways. Brown he definitely did put
that. Yeah, so he pickedthe right cattle put that because because Gus
School's been trying that for three yearsand he still can't do it. Yeah,
another one of those Brownie rumors didn'tcome true. They're saying that he

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was going to be the Saint Georgehad of recruitment and now they got Shane
Millard. I know the Bulldogs goodline. Is he the son of Ian
Millard? Is it? I don'tknow. But he played for Saint George.
He played for a few clubs.I thought his dad did too,
Yeah, might have yeah, yeah. And he also lives up there,
so it's a closer to I moveGuspad a lot of glowing response reference.

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So listen, Roles wanted him too, that was one of his conditions.
We'll get to our pathways gold ina moment. But while we're on the
Dragons are he tell us about BenHunts. He's declared that he's staying at
the Dragons, but he made abit of an odd statement saying that it's
not my first choice, but Iwill be here and I still want to
be captain. He's made a lotof really stupid statements. He's really annoying.

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You know what, I've got tosay the na real players. I've
been in the best behavior this yearbecause I haven't heard poop from anyone.
That must be there's no dirt toput on anyone be hunt for a story
and he always delivers because every timethey speak to him. There was one
story where he said he might evenconsider retirement, even through retirement thread in
there, there's a story He's justthrowing all these barbs and then he just

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wants to go back to home toBrisbane, doesn't he All, that's apparently
what they want. Brisbane are gettinginvestigated too for tapping up, for tapping
up Ben Hunters. Well, theNR Rell stepped in. Yeah, I
read that they wanted to potentially himas a hooker. Yeah, well,
yeah, then I all got ontoit because I reckon there was some inside.
I don't know he's tapping up there, but he's changed his story every

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time he says he wants out,and then he will say, oh no,
but I'm a Sin George player fornext year and I'll be there at
preseason at least or something like that. And he's saying, or just make
your mind. You're talking about acaptain of the club. He said he
wants to remain, and he sayshe wants to remain captain, but this
is not my first choice to behere, I continued. Now on the
forums, every Sin George player,every Sin George fan does not want him

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as a case. Is he goingto be there in March? I don't
know, but with the garbage thathe's throwing at the club, it's just
disgusting. And I really hope,you know, Flanno can do something about
this, because George, will yoube there in March next year driving us?
I don't think so, I reallydon't think. So. You know
what, let's see the power ofFlano. Now we we waxed lyrical and

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we talk about how much of agood coach it is he is and the
modern day coach, he's a manmanager. So Flano believes when he gets
him in training, he'll turn himaround. Hasn't turned him around yet?
Possible? Yeah, So if Marchcomes and Ben's there playing at his best,

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well we know that he's exceeded.He's exceeded my opinion of him even
more. Okay, I don't thinkhe's going to be there in March.
Flanna has shot that down. Andone of the things Flanno said is in
the off season we're going to Ben'sgoing to learn learn a lot of things,
and one thing in particularly he saidis leadership, because Ben needs to

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learn leadership based off his media commitments. I would agree with that. But
now one of the worst kept secretsin rugby league, which we always knew
if young Flannagan was going to goover to the train, so he's a
half back come hooker. Does thatput pressure on Ben Hunt? Does that
take the pressure off Ben Hunt?So? So has he come across as

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a as a potential half or hashe come across as a as a nine?
Well, some people say as anumber fourteen, So he's going to
be there for backup for a littleHunt and Ammony. I reckon he'd be
a great number fourteen two the wayhe's playing. And some people have said
that he could slip in at sixor Hunt can go to six. I
heard this Hunt will go at sixand Flannagani go to seven and Ammony might

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be on the outer. And ifanyone's going to get lest out of him,
it's his dad. Yeah, right, the last time he played well
and I kept forgetting this, butapparently his first year at the Roosters he
was their top try point scorer.He got two hundred and something. Play
started, but then they had lockedon Lamb Sam Walker. They had all
those guys ahead of him and theyjust said, you know what, We've
got too many. You know whathappened. They had Flanno for four or

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five hundred k and they had thiskid called Walker or minimal wage. They
go, well, what a minute, what are we going to That's what
happened. That was the true storylocked Lamb and the other guys. I
was sure, but lucky. Butso you know what he was. He
was a high paid kid who hadto go because they had so many youngsters
who look good and half the allquarter of the price. So that's what

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happened to Paul Flanner. But look, I wanted I want him to settle
down somewhere and I know he's agood kid and I who have a good
year next year, who'll have agood season, There's no doubt in my
mind, and they'll make He'll puta smile on my face. It's also
a big gamble on the on thefather, on Shane, because if it's
another Brad Arthur incident with the nepotismwhere you're just putting his son on the

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field, I think his job willbe on the line. He might not
be there for two more and twoyears. So for Shane to getting him
across, I'm sure and he knowingthat. I'm sure he's got plans on.
I'm getting the best out of Cole, so I'm hoping it all works
out. I want a bit ofa role here. Speaking of gamble,
what do we make of Willie Mason'scomments? Wow, George, if you've

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got a guy like Willie Mason inthe coaching ranks, God help Ken.
He's working with man. He's ahard man, isn't he. What's your
take on this? Your your nextbulldog? Man made me sick when I
when I heard the comments moments.If they're true or not true, that's
beside the point someone. And youknow what if it was an independent podcast,

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like because he said on his podcast, Okay, I still think he's
a dickhead and stupid. But youknow what, he's hurting himself personally,
you know what I mean. Buthe's involved with with a first grade rugular
league team with youngsters to bring himup, bring him up. They all
hurt this, So what are theythinking? I could be a rogue as
well? You know what the glodwas was an idiot as a player.

(28:30):
It was a good play he wasthere was a decent player. He's a
decent player, I mean, buthe just really have to throw his weight
around. His whole stick has alwaysbeen about acting tough and all that.
You know what I mean? Youknow what, in my opinion, will
he just shut the fuck up seriousand just like Gamble? I know,
I mean, he's what he is. It's the James Graham thing all over

(28:53):
again with Andrew Davy. You know, they're targeting these players that are They're
not rep players, They're not youknow, you know William Mason, I
think he just needs to make himselfrelevant. He's you know, he gets
gets his name in the news,gets his pod whatever. You know what
I think of when I think ofWilliam Mason, I think of him getting

(29:14):
smashed by David Kidwell and I keepwatching it on YouTube every time. What
doesn't William Mason ask Adam O'Brien howgood Tyson is? Because you know,
Newcastle achieved defeat that hasn't been donesince two thousand and one, and Tyson
Gamble was in the middle of it. He won ten or eleven games straight
and their wingers dominant. Young andMazoo scored forty six tries between them exactly,
So something must have been going allright then for them to score that

(29:37):
many tries and Toyson was a bigpart of that because Hastings was injured for
a while so he had makeshift halfnext to him. So and William Mason
he works with the juniors at Cannaby. Right, Well, he must be
doing very well because if signed fortysix players in the last six months.
Okay, on to your point,Addie. Yeah, like I keep on

(29:59):
saying, it's lock on work whenyou have people on the bus, Well,
that type of character, Okay,well that's what's going to come through.
Okay, the gusts thing with thattype of character, that's what's going
to come through. Okay. Sowe're going to keep on turning over this
roster over and over and over again, trying to find these people apparently with

(30:25):
character who want to train this andable one a minute, you're the men
who are leading the group, okay. And one of them is on his
podcast bad Mouth in a first graderugby lue player who just won ten games
in a row. Okay. Thenwe've got a snaker on the top of
the chain, Okay, making allthese deals, backstabbing people, getting rid

(30:45):
of people. That's what it's notgoing to work. George, as a
Dogs fan, would you like aplaylock, toss and gamble. Absolutely,
I would lovely full of hard.He's bagging a guy that you would love
to have in your floor because he'sfull of He's the top of player that
the dogs knee. Tyson players whookay, Redcliffe's got a Redcliffe's got a

(31:06):
player who was the first one tobe signed from Paramatta okay, and he
was injured. Who wasn't Nickel alock new reconstruction? The first one who
got who signed okay was ray Stone? And what did he say in that
movie in the show we saw it'shard to find people like race Stone?
Remember when he said that he wastalking to the guy who recruits. Yeah,

(31:27):
okay, and he goes, oh, they're not all like race Stone.
Okay, Well for me, okay, race Stone or Tyson is a
similar sort of profile as ray Stone. Races is not going to play for
Australia never you know, but he'sgoing to bust the gut. So it
is Tyson exactly. Okay. SoI don't know what William Mason can see,

(31:48):
can see or seas in him?Okay, guess what how many ponders
is there in the comp? Everyteam hasn't got a pont guy. It's
just it's just irritates me how theyhave to they pick someone out, target
him and and you know what,isn't he if that much? If you
if you're that much of a ifyou're that much of a hot shit?
Why didn't you say something before thegame started? Not after it was finished.
He waits for them to lose andget eliminated before he comes flying out

(32:10):
with comments, Right, why don'tyou say something before the game started?
Yeah, he's a weekly, he'sa week. He's a fucking idiot.
Sorry, but feel free to putthat out because I can't. I can't
stand him. Happy to bump intointo the street any day of the week.
Mate, anyway, moving right alongto his boss, good old pathways
good. He's so the Bulldogs havesigned Drew Hutchinson from the Roosters and Kurtman

(32:36):
from the Knights, and he's metwith Alex Twill from the Tigers because he's
been told he's free to leave,so met with with Manly as well.
Yeah that's from Tigers. That's abattle in the move. I can't believe
why you want to get rid ofagain? Another race stone, another race

(32:58):
pulp of player. But anyway,maybe not, Maybe they know what they've
gone underneath them, who's coming up, and maybe he's paid too much.
But look, this is another thisis this is more evident evidence the pathway
gools building from within uh Nicola gettingall the youngsters coming through, you know
what I mean, lets'll talk aboutAma ride nor let's not talk about if

(33:22):
you're room. If you lose adressing room with your play, what do
you do get rid of? There'sanother one. I like that. I
like that. I didn't like thatwhen you listen, Yeah, look you
know what at least the players he'sbringing over a good, solid first grade
rugby league players and then includes twelve. So look, I've got that problem.

(33:46):
But that's there's positions that he's buyingand not our problem. Our problem
is the is a pack a packof Fords, a pack of Mongrels.
Guess what, we've got a bunchof a bunch of little bunny Roberts.
You know, I mean, goodluck to us. Our backs may be
scoring too many tries because we're wegoing forward, be going forward much,

(34:08):
you know when, And we gotthe best center in the wall play five
eight. You got man who canplay half well, they are. I
mean they are releasing a bunch ofplayers too, right there. Who's been
released? So I know six ofthem? Six? Yeah, so interesting.

(34:29):
We'll see what happens next Tues.Thing. You know, my view
on on this really works. Itwas funny because I read I think it
was on Facebook or somewhere. Someguy goes, I'm looking forward to Cannibury
buying back at MYRTI from Penrith fornine. Yeah. Oh yeah, he'll
get he'll get next good. He'sgonna becoming when when I think gets his

(34:52):
hands on where would it buy?Where would he play? When he'll plays
that will he'll been the centers whereverhe wants. What the god centers he'll
make he'll stop him out for no. But they've got Targo and but injured
the whole. Yeah. But whatI'm saying is he'll play so well.
Yeah he's nineteen. Yeah, you'reright, he's nineteen. What would you

(35:13):
give him another few years to develop? I don't understand. I don't understand
some things. You know, you'rego and buy taff and you get rid
of what's the avarillo? What's thedifference? Yeah, he claims two hundred
thousand dollars difference. Really, that'swhy he did it, because Amarilla wanted
four hundred and taps on two hundredand something wins two taps on two hundred

(35:37):
something. Please, that's what hereckons, because he reckons the TAP's going
in there for two hundred. Hewas an opportunity because he knows you can't
break into the to the Bunny's team. How long's he signed for? Two
years? I think years? Twoyears he'll regret him and go back to
the Bunny super League Super League andcalm mind. You should have seen Schnyder

(36:02):
a weekend kick. But Snider whenso well at Hull. But I was
just gonna say, Nathan clearly hadan injury. Scared during the week during
the hospital with the finger injury.But apparently he's fine. He's fine,
he was cleared, so he'll betaking the field this week. Another bus
story. Another bus might be mightbe Jaranne Lewis. Apparently he's at long

(36:27):
as to play. He'll be struggling. I mean it only happened, what's
three weeks ago, his shoulder injuryfour weeks full good, he said.
If if it's the injury that hesaid he had, he'd be surprised if
he plays. Yeah, I'd besurprised if he injury. I spoke to
someone who's in and around the tracktraps and he's very skeptical that he's going

(36:50):
to play. He said he can't. He can't work it out how he's
been named right. Maybe I'll puthim on the bench. And that's what
he said. He said that,you know what, he if you honestly
think you got your last throw ofthe dice, maybe you put him on
the bench, and if you're lookinglike you're going to lose, throw him
on. But he goes, ifhe's got one game, this is not

(37:10):
the game that I'll be playing.Yeah, maybe he's doing tactics for John
Christ to start training in case Lewisthrow him off a little bit. Maybe
Apparently what he said is that he'sseen his injury before and what they do
is strap it up so much islimited amount of movements. So he goes,

(37:30):
if you're a front roller, okay, but if you're a five eight
with long passes, how you cando your long passes? He goes,
and he goes, they inject youinto the into the shoulder once before the
game and then at halftime. Hegoes, you can't feel nothing that whole
side of your body. Basically hegoes, so again to be a five
eight and to throw balls, hegoes, I don't know how he can

(37:52):
do it. He goes. Ifyou're a front rower, he goes,
maybe now I mean it, ora back roller. But he goes a
five eight. Very difficult. Hegoes, there's nothing wrong with him.
It's fine. No, we saw, we saw, yeah, this shoulder.
Jerem hughes. He's looking good totake the calf injury. Right.
They can be tricky, but theyneed him. They need him and they

(38:16):
need to be perfect. They needto be perfect and they need him.
The Warrior's Broncos game. It's kickingoff at seven fifty pm in Brisbane,
which makes it nine fifty pm inNew Zealand. It's ten o'clock. What
what the NRROL can't do something?Don't want to move it. They're not
moving it. They're not even byan hour. No, it's about what's

(38:37):
it about TV ratings? I thinkJohn nine pick what point the game's going
on. The people in Brisbane willwatch it whether it's five o'clock, seven
o'clock or ten o'clock. Why can'tthey bring it forward an hour? I
mean, it's a it's it's ais a Friday night. Who's a Saturday
night. It's Friday night, soI mean it's yeah, it's Saturday night.

(39:00):
It's probably not that bad, butstill worrying about growing the game in
Vegas when you know they're doing thisto the poor New Zealand people. You
know who you're playing in the game, who love the game. I agree,
and they're making them stay up tillten o'clock to watch it. The
kids are going to be bed,they're going to watch it. Okay,
it's crazy in the next in thenext television bill, and I've all got

(39:22):
to get some some control back becauseit's it's ludicrous. Let's say they don't
make the Grand Final, and youknow what, they're still the New Zealand
people STI left to stay out atten o'clock to watch the Grand Final.
But look for arguments like let's let'ssay let's say it's it's a one off.
Okay, but in what in whatworld? Because they don't rate in

(39:44):
New Zealand because there's no raids.It doesn't help them here for raiders,
But but in what world? Okay? Do you put a game on at
ten o'clock when a country's rugby leagueteam, a country's rugby league team,
he's playing in such an important game. Yeah, okay, And you to
grow the game. You need togrow the game. You need to grow
because because you know what, howPathway Goold can't sort of respawn the team

(40:10):
because the cattles are not there.Back in the day you could two years
and you could, you could havea team, a brand new team of
quality team, quality cattle. Butyou can't do that anymore because the cattle's
not there. Guess what, there'sa lot in New Zealand, heaps of
youngsters in New Zealand. They can'tThank god, thank god New Zealand.
Pathways started kicking off now and they'vethey've done well in the reggies again.

(40:32):
But you know what, you knowwhat that's disregarded for Channel nine. Channelin
doesn't give a flying f about NewZealand. They just want their top rating
and I'll get their top rating.He's okay in what in in in lieu
of hurting New Zealand And it makesme feel sick. And not only that
the Grand Final having the time becausethat Nicola they perceive that they're going to

(40:57):
get more ratings at eight o'clock.I just say that means for the New
Zealand the Grand Finals at ten teno'clock. You're right, You're right,
ten o'clock. Crazy. Imagine ifthe Warriors squeaked through. Yeah, ten
o'clock kickoff? Crazy? Should itbe at three pm? Like the good
old days? Okay, so I'llreply, listen to you my greatest memories.

(41:21):
He's sitting on the lounge with myfather watching the rugby league. Okay,
okay, guess what. You hadtime to have lunch of a barbecue.
Okay, you had time to watchthe game. Then you had time
to talk about it and analyze itafterwards. Guess what for me and for
a bunch of other kids who aresay under fifteen. Okay, they're falling

(41:45):
asleep in the second half. Yeah, and that's what actually happens. You
know what on Friday night, stayFriday and Saturday night. I record the
games a lot, and I'm watching. I get up at four o'clock in
the morning and watch them. Thenbecause I'm falling a seph I can't actually
watch the game. We enjoy thegame. Okay, So that's a fifty
six year old bum here. Okay, but the kids, yeah, you

(42:07):
know what I mean. And they'rethe ones who who are going to grow
the game, not me. Soyou know what, I don't understand how
they think that there's going to bemore ratings at eight o'clock. I'm perplexed.
They've done their research and they mustknow what they're doing. The Okay,
but you know when I said justthat, they're wrong. Speaking of
the Grand Final, I think they'vebeen listening to us. No Jimmy Barnes

(42:28):
this year, Yeah, no,Jimmy. Who are the kid? Maybe
Taylor Day that we've got the turnA tribute just coming out of Retire is
Dead, the Tina Turner tribute show, trite show, tute show. That's

(42:57):
thirty year anniversary for simply the best, the behind, they've got reasoning behind,
you know what. You know what, I bet you anybody post down
he can learn sill be the best. I bet you any money if that
was true. That if that wastrue, they would have announced the six
months ago. Felt doing it becauseof the thirty anniversary or whatever. They've

(43:22):
got a tribute band, a tributeband that bottom line, right, they've
got a tribute band. Anyway I'llbe watching AFL pre game entertainment, I
won't be watching let me tell you, I think i'd rather see the one

(43:42):
that had for the origin. Letme tell you, in every way we
perceive rugby league, he's a professionalgame, but they go out of their
way into they refused to invest inentertainment. They never AFL good or bad.
They've always had got big names.I sent a clip to audi and

(44:04):
I'm not sure if you opened it, aren't okay. But in all the
aspects crowds, viewers now as well, that's changed. Crowds. They've got
us covered viewers now they've got that'sone. We've got us covering viewers.
Ye. Our claim to fame waswe get more on television. Guess what
not anymore, we're wet in everyaspect. AFL has got us covered.

(44:30):
We are not the number one gamein the in the country, and let
me tell you we're probably the secondone. But there's other there's other codes
pushing us in that day or night. Day three o'clock, but channel night
but bought at the channel nine,our channel channel seven. He is trying
to get it back to eight o'clock. But AFL says no, keeps on

(44:52):
saying no. Can we It's justoff the top of my head. Can
we start a on a week orpetition and the movement? Uh? No?
For next year's the twenty twenty fourGrand Final pre match entertainment. I
want what are they called Stanley procedure? What do they call him? They

(45:14):
got a book, brother, Louis. I want talking the Grand Final and
they're gonna have long hair. They'vealways got long hair. They wna have
long hair that would be in thesixties now, but it doesn't matter real
look at the bands. It mightbe a tribute to what I'm talking.

(45:35):
And I won't bring him out them. Maybe I won't be alive. No,
no, no, no way inthe world outstanding. But I'm positive
that Stanley could could Stanley could learnI was simply the best. I'm positive.
I'm sure he should. I'm surehe should. Yeah, look at

(45:55):
another another Cooper in a real Who'stell me a little bit about Dean Hawkins.
Dean Hawkins Nicola is a halfback whowho got the equivalent to Dallian Play
of the Year in the Reserve gradeReserve Grade two years in a row,
and Halfback of the Year now whyis that, Why is that strange or

(46:21):
why are we bringing that up?He plays for the South Side Rabbitdos this
year. Let's say a lot ofpeople in and around Jason Demitri were,
let's say, suggesting that they shouldtry Dean Hawkins into first grade but doing
But Demetris stubbornly kept young Ilius andlet me, let me make it clear

(46:46):
that I and I think that's inthe same page of me. I would
persevere with Ilius, but they'll sayinggive him a go Elius is out of
form. Put back to the Reggies. Give give Dan a few games in
first. I have a look athim. But stubbornly he doesn't. He

(47:07):
doesn't, he doesn't do it.The kid is very good, and he
probably will go to Saint George whenBen goes to the Gold Coast, probably
will go to Saint George, andhe probably be probably will be a star,
you know what I mean. Socoming back to the point, there's
a lot of pressure at the startof the year on how long Jason Demitri,

(47:28):
how long has Cody Walker. God, he's seen his thirties and he
say he's got a couple of years. Maybe his idea is to push Elias
to Elias at six six and Hawkinsat seven or Hawkins at six. Maybe
that's his future, long term futuregoal of having both of them there.
Yeah, but guess what the differencethere is. The South is in a
window. Now they've got to winnow. Well they've got Cody still next

(47:52):
year. Well yeah, but they'vegot to win now. Yeah, it's
not next year, not the otheryear, not the other now, because
you know what when a few ofthem, especially when they or Jack,
it's like this year, if itwas a different type of coach or a
different management, he'll be sacked.That team is ready to win the Corn
And what happened and we've we've letit go and we've moved on, and

(48:15):
we looked at the semifinals. Okay, I'm telling now because is a high
profile club. Okay, what happenedat the end, not making the eight
without roster that's ludicrous. Nicola isupset because they didn't make the eight.
Okay, but look at Paramouni's roster. Look at and what should what should
Nicokele be upset? They've done outstandingly. This what I'm trying to say that

(48:37):
if if Sales can't make the whodid I pick the win the comp salves
it. It's crazy, but youknow what, he's got a lot of
pressure Undermitri and you know what,Nicola might be right. We've been waxing
lyrical about this guy because what wesaw him doing in the reggis and as
assistant. Or maybe he's not I'lltell you what else. He's going to

(48:59):
be here for love his they mightlose his kids to someone else, or
this is the thing, this isthe thing, you know what I mean.
You don't get two years. Theywould have loved to have had Adam
Meryld's the last two years there,Well, do you go there's a mistake
that it keeps on keeps on comingup. Yeah, there's the mistake that
keeps on coming up. Because I'mtelling you now, with rebels running South
Sydney, Okay, and maybe he'smore of a leader, maybe he could

(49:22):
have kept the dressing room a bitmore quiet on control control Cody and I
don't know if he could, butthat's a difficult choice. Started to keep
either Cody or Reynolds. So itwas that's that's what it came down to,
is that what it was they couldn'tkeep both, Okay, because both
would have been on eight hundred thousand. That can't and Trials there for quite
a fair bit ms Jack cost himexactly. This does obviously two but then

(49:49):
Cook's deals being it's a difference.So that's what they found the money.
But that's that's what pushed down bebig man ego. He's come out and
said Teddy will be the full back. Good Frustralia, good good, No,
but but he's did he also saythat he's bringing a few others as
long as well Dylan Edwards has played. I don't think so why do they

(50:19):
do that? I hate that?Why they pick plays out of position?
Ye? Haven't we got good senses? I think we have, But the
trials ruled himself out. Well he'sprobably done, so ponger Edwards and p
is going to go for operation.So he's going to pull out. He's
going to pull out. Yeah,he's got he's going for shoulder operation.
He's going to pull out. Sothere's there's there's reason and Reese deserves it

(50:45):
and puts put on the wing.Put Reese on the wing. We don't
have wings. Who's going to missour? I don't know what he picks
seventeen and just put him wherever.Look, you know, what's the makeup
of the team will be interesting.You know, I've got this funny feeling.
Maybe I hope not. This isTeddy Swan song Swan song. I

(51:05):
think it will be. And he'llput straight at fullback. Why should it
be though he's still playing good football. Yeah, it was awesome, But
I think it's changing of the yardtime. It is. It is.
He's been at the top for along time. Yeah, I don't know.
It's not to say that he's goingbad. There's just other youngsters will
starting to shine. Yeah they are. They're younger than him. They've got

(51:28):
to speed. Come on, youcan put anyone on their day the second
grade team right right here. Andnow him being picked at fullback and captain,
he's the right thing to do.Yeah, he's capta. So what
transpires now you're give Reesur run.As you said, we're going to win
anyway, You're to give Resur run. Yeah? Good. I mean Dylan

(51:50):
Dylan Edwards, what's what he's donein the last three years. I mean
he deserves he does, even evenif he's peeling the oranges him. Give
him a run a fullback when heplayers have missed out playing reps because they
waited for the god to retire.There's a lot of quality players missing in.
It's just unfortunate, you know,for them. And speaking of reps,
what about the Hammer. So he'sbeen picked in Australian Prime Ministers eleven

(52:14):
eleven. Didn't he play for Samarain the world cume? This is this
is coming back to your argument andyou you extended a little bit more nicola
about Origin. But let's let's talkabout the international arena and first here and
second teen nation. Yeah, heplayed for some Samoa last year. He
got picked for the Prime Minister's thirteen. Now that's one thing, because anyone

(52:39):
get picked up for the Prime ministersthirteen. That doesn't that you know what
I mean? That doesn't you knowI mean mean that much. But he's
declared himself an Australian, so hewants to get picked for Australia in the
future, Okay, to honor hisfather's side of the first of all,
his mother's side is his father's side. Now side that annoys me, Yeah,

(53:01):
that annoys me. If you peakforget the Origin park, that's a
complete If you say I want toplay for Samoa on your sheet or by
your mouth, that's it. Butit first team, but it's second.
He's not the first guy to doit though, like you got to tell
Malalos guys like that. He playedfor Australia junior polo play Fustralia. Really

(53:25):
he's not the first one to doit. It's it's a hole in the
system. But what that is intheory they went backwards. If you'll not
say so, yeah, you know, so they're helping a T two nation
to improve. Okay, well Hammerhas not done that. He's gone in
some ways forward, which me yeah, but he declared himself for so he

(53:53):
didn't make it. But now intheory, if Samoe puts him in the
team to go to England, wellhe should say no, that's going to
be interesting because he's the clans ofAustralia. But see things. He can
go and play in England for Samowa, but he's still declared fromself of Australia.
It's very murky. Yeah that annoysme, you know what I mean.

(54:15):
But anyway, terrible and we madesome progress in the anti tampering with
the RLPA trying to stop plays negotiating. No, I don't think so.
I don't think so, I don'tthink Yeah. So this is this is
the crazy, crazy ideas of theI'll call them the union or the r

(54:37):
LPA or whatever. Okay, youhave a ten day calling off period when
you sign. Yeah, okay,you've got to lodge your your contractor with
the NRL and then you've got togo back to your current club to make
your accounter offer. Yeah, inwhat world does this happen? So,

(54:59):
so we're gonna have Isaac Moses say, mate, the Broncos offered me,
you know, to me dollars ayear. Yeah, but he's got to
submit it to the NRL. Yeah, but they can't. They can't say
nothing. They say, it can'tbe a bluff. Has to be a
genuine offer. It has to bea gen Yeah, the offer from the
Broncos got to be lodged and putin. Okay, but the numbers can't

(55:21):
be disclosed. So Isaac moses thenumbers no, no, and then no.
But they can be close to theplayer, yes, the player,
but they can't be then they can't. That's not thought the whole purposes that
they can let them know of therecord. The nr REAL does this for
anti tamper and tampering. So whatis what the NRRL wants is to stop

(55:45):
all these backdoor deals. I don'tknow how are they going to do that.
This is not a way. Okay, that's the NR that's the n
that's the NA real thing. Okay, then the RPA whatever. Okay,
the Union says, well, it'sgot to be done. Go back to
the club negotiat Okay, this isgonna be great. Okay, So Broncos

(56:06):
are gonna say, yeah, I'llgive you eighty grand lodge the lodge,
the lodge with the NRRUL. ThenI'll go back to Paramouda. Listen,
mate, they're offering me four DKwere lodged it. It's in Moses does
his thing, say Paramatta if heneeds him, man, I can't give
him more than two fifty made twofifty they've offered made it too. I

(56:28):
don't know. I'm not sure.Transfer windows, that's and that's this is
the crust of it. Why whatthe negotiations went all this time for One
of the points were that the NArule wants a transfer window in the middle
of the year. Okay, fourweeks or five weeks. It opens up.
Deals get done in that window andcloses. That's it. That's no

(56:53):
apparently, you know when they're sayingthat all the deals will get done then
and all this talk behind closers nowyou no, no, no, it's
not going to stop. But atleast it's transparent. We can see what
what what what has happening? Actually, what they actually want, the man
of Feathers and Abdo is a draft. That's what they want. It's not

(57:13):
going to happen because they were deadagainst it. They are our lays association.
Okay, well they're dead against it. I like the transfer window,
but the union didn't like it.So we've got this again antiquated, crazy

(57:34):
system which is going to put morepressure on the clubs. Now, okay
or you know, I mean ifhe works, if he works, and
a player can be you know,retained from his club, good, fantastic,
fine, But why do I thinkIsaac Moses and his and his cranies
are going to absolutely got this ruleand use it to their advantage. You

(57:58):
know, I mean to put morepressure on the clubs, you know what
I mean? And the Caps willkeep on all the money, we'll keep
on, right, I don't know, but when I heard it, I
started laughing. My head off.I'm going, yeah, that's gonna work,
right, Yep, yep, yep, that's gonna work. You know.
I mean, we'll see how itplays are so it's gonna be interesting.
But it looks like I can seesome heartachere. But this is this

(58:19):
when I bet you an your money. When Buzz heard about this rulely goes
are excellent war stories, Buzz buzzeyes lit up. So as everyone knows,
we're going to Vegas kickoff next season, can't wait? Now? Are
gonna be holding some trials there?Yeah, the amount of feathers is organizals.
No, no, combine, It'sgoing to be a combine. So

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what happens player trials? I'm talkingabout. What he's done is gone to
high schools and offer them. Apparentlyall the all the spots are taken.
Okay, you have NR all scoutsout there, okay. And then I
go through drills. Apparently there's anage age live with this and that.

(59:02):
Uh, and they're going to geta chance, a chance to come back
to NRO on train control contracts andmake college football. Basically, Abdo says,
I'm going to suggest zero on thecap. He says, a very

(59:23):
a very discounted rate. I'm goingto suggest they're gonna because they want it,
they're going to pass. They're goingto really turn a blind die to
it, you know what I mean. On the on the cap that's going
to happen. They're going to getI think they've secured three or four years
to go to think three three years. Okay, they want they if you

(59:44):
asked the manifolders, he wants tenyears. He wants to spend ten years
in he wants to get bedding.Well, that's what he actually want.
It's done for bedding. Let's makethat mistake. He wants someone to pick
it up on television there, okay, because he sell me on app in
the mirror and he wants to makeit in front of their faces. For
the betting agencies, that's what heactually wants because they get a percentage of

(01:00:08):
money on bed on bedding. That'swhy. But look, we don't care
about the bedding. What we careabout is hopefully we can we can extract
some youngsters, generate some interest,generate some interest, and hopefully eventually they
can maybe go back into the intothe Americas and and try to sort out

(01:00:30):
their rugby league. Because it's anabsolute mess at the moment. You know,
I try to follow it and it'svery difficult to follow. Let's move
on to something more exciting. Let'stalk foot him. Yeah right, so
Melbourne Storm got over the Roosters atany points to thirteen. We touched on
it before last second. Try whatabout that winger Warburton Brick. What's the

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brick? The brick? Yeah,another potential the brick, the brick,
another potential Brookie of the year becausea lot of the first in good season
from a background like that. ButI thought that it was a lot of
mistakes in that game. You wouldn'tthink though, because a lot of mistakes
that favored the Storm. Yeah.Well yeah, I'm told that the players

(01:01:15):
actually made a lot of drop ballsthat but yeah, but the referees absolutely
blew that came away with their stupidcalls. I still can't get over how
close actually was to that knock on. But I thought the Roosters put in
a gutsy effort, considering they hadthree out of four of the back line
out they had it on, theyhad it one at one stage, they

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had it one and that Sander Smiththat came off the bench and set up
that beautiful pass for for the what'shis name, James Boosey, Boosey's son
whatever, the Lindsay Collins sorry,Gary Busey's son, Gary Busey. Yeah,
in the score. That was brilliantthat Sanders Smith. So they've got
some good rising talent. Was it? Was it? The was it the

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Smith for the Roosters. He playedlike half a game with a broken jaw.
Yes, Billy Smith played, butthat was last game. Billy Smith
was out, Marny was out,and Sally was out and what's his name
and Tupo, so four of theback line was out. So it's a
pretty good effort. It was.It should have won it. But one

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thing that really got me with thosewith those decisions as well, which I
thought was and I think Brad Fitlerpointed it out, between the twenty eight
point four ninth minute and the thirtysecond point three five minutes, So within
three minutes there was five penalties twosix against to the Roosters. Three of

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them were done by Monster and twowere by Hughes. Not one of them
got binned nothing anywhere else it wouldhave been ten minutes in the bin would
have made a difference. Of course, that was on top of the knock
on. It should never have goneto that last bad decision with the shot.
The high shot should never have gotto that because Ruster should have had
a one by the end. Butit was just a game that was really

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marred by that stupid refereing performance.It was pathetic. That's the actually client
performance. It was just terrible.One thing I wanted to point out,
how much does Tyren wish it lookedlike his dad was watching him play for
South was in the wing, Buthow much the image many played the same

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the same? Yeah, they runthe same. Yeah. I mean we'll
obviously touch on predictions shortly in termsof how we think Melbourne will go.
But I really thought that Rusters reallyshould have won that game. They were
brilliant. I thought they were reallygood for a really depleted side, they
were fantastic, And I like LukeCarey was just everywhere. I love watching

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that guy play, I really do. He's an impressive young man. Monster
was a big quiet but at theend he always produces the big shot of
the big player. He's just abig game player. Is amazing. But
you, George, it's you.I'm not going to talk about the referee.
It's obviously it was a big partof the game and the reason probably

(01:04:10):
the storm one. I like thisgame to two drunks Nicola outside of a
pub, swinging and sharing missing okay, you know, and they're just swinging
and nothing really happens. Melbourne startedwell. Melbourne started well, but as
as the game went on, he'sworked himselves into the game and the forwards

(01:04:35):
took over. Nicola. You know, we've got to we've got to give
shout outs to Lindsey Colin, LindseyCollins origin player, but just keeps on,
keeps on going forward. You knowwhat. I like Brandon Smith as
a player. I really don't likehim as a hooker. Okay, but
he's playing well. He's good.The last month he's playing, he's playing

(01:04:58):
well. I don't well, youusual said, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. What happened when the youngstercame on the general hooker? Mm
hmmm, he's not he's playing well, he's on a hooker. I don't
care what. I don't care,you know what I mean anything, but
he's playing wall But yeah, okay, and yeah, I was gonna say,

(01:05:20):
may thank god they've they've unearthed theequality backgrower who's going to play Origin
and Australia. Eventually, he's He'sa godsend for them. He's one of
the biggest reasons that they were lookinggood. Radley's back into form. He's
adjusted his game and he's back intoform. And I hope, I hope,

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I hope, I hope it continues. He'll keep on getting better.
And he's aggressive as well. Yeah, so look, in general, in
general, they by the end ofthe game, they should have won.
They should have they should have movedon to the prelimb, but they didn't.
We know why. I'm going tosay, what the last thing on

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the roosts. Okay, besides,he wasn't really a disappointing year, Okay,
And I know you love him,Okay, I don't like to fight
the half back Sam Walker. Idon't see it. Oh my god,
I don't understand it. I don'tsee it. We had the same conversation
about Reynolds when I first pointed himout when he was young. Remember,
you didn't rate Reynolds. I didn't, but he did have In the middle

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of his career. Reynolds played alot of shit. It was injured,
it was paying a lot busted up, Okay, this kid's got it,
man, he's going to be astar. He'slaty young. He you know,
I was just saying, obviously,it's a last week's show. Reynolds
played a full series finished South andthey lost. He didn't stand out at
all, and he played more thanone series as well. He had one

(01:06:48):
or two other things. What's yourthoughts on Sam Walker. I think he's
I think he's like thereabouts. Ithink he's I mean, I thought he
did the job the other night.Yeah, yeah, he almost won him
the game. He also sent thefront roller for the other team in the

(01:07:08):
least scoring. Yeah, that saidhe scored wrong options. Yeah, one
trick pony. He got long pastthat set Justice game. He got dropped
earlier in the season for all thosereasons. So the juries out, I
suppose, let's let's let's look,I don't I wouldn't be in a hurry
to sign him. I'll be honest, like I have signed him long term.

(01:07:30):
I think. Yeah, Look,I'm not saying he's not it's not
going to come good, but rightat this moment, for me, he's
a Rigis player. Okay, yeah, okay, he's still a Rigis player.
And and and the brick. Youknow what, it's going to kill
me because when Pap comes back,he's going to be fullback. Hey,
what has nick mean? He gotto do okay to have the fullback or

(01:07:53):
a genuine first grade spot. Hehad stand Yeah, yeah, he has
sat very keen on him. Hehas good but he's the thin George.
If Pappenhausen comes back and plays likePappenhausen, no one, I don't disagree.
But he said himself he'd be happyto shift. He said he did,

(01:08:16):
he did. He's a good boy. But she's playing well. He's
fantastic. He was safest houses.How many balls did? How many balls
he caught him all? He's anunder pressure Yeah, the guy's breathing on
his neck. Fantastic. He'll beprobably the best player that he'll be this
week. Well we shout, weshout. I thought was the best player
on on the Storm. I thinkso. I think wish I was the

(01:08:39):
best player. He's a natural hooker, you know, he plays a hooker
hooker. The junior he was killing. You can't do that because you've got
grant. You got grant. Iunderstand why Justin Nolan got dropped in Nicola
because he keeps on playing the sameway. And the issue is the forward
pack here. Take out Nelson offof big Nielson. Okay, unfortunately not

(01:09:03):
much doing a little bit. I'llsee what happens this week. Did the
offload when they scored on this week? Yeah, I don't worry about this
week again actually, but you knowwhat, the wrong team won. They
got and it was entertaining and wemove on a seen the other again.
The fairy tale came to an endfor the Nights Warriors forty points to ten.

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Warriors bounced back Newcastle disappointing Warriors thefirst fifteen minutes. Shawn Johnson just
had that game under control. Hestarved them with possession. How good is
he? And now I think thatwas the end of it because they got
sixteen points in the first fifteen minutesor whatever it was on the back of
Seawan Johnson's control. His kicking gamewas fantastic and they never looked back.

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They just didn't. Knights did wellto get the sixteen ten at one stage,
yes they did. But then Ijust reck night of the fire again
for the Warriors and they just turnedit on again and scored the It was
the fourteenth the crowd was amazing.How good was the atmosphere. It was
just coming out of the TV.And now, man the lesbian act again,
can't stop scoring those shapes they puton and Nickel clocks that it's been

(01:10:14):
phenomenal. Hundred and nineteen nine runningmeters. It's just how and Pa kept
him quiet. They just stayed onhim and we didn't even hear about him.
Stop supply, that's webs, that'sWebster's coaching. That's that's actually I
would's theory. Stop supply, stopsupply. Yeah, the Nicola Nighteous missed

(01:10:43):
the first of all, let's goback. What a great event. It
was an event. It was youknow what, and this is said and
it's a cliche, but rugby leaguewas a winner here and there's not even
not even a question about that.It was it was he lifted it lifted
me up. He put the hairson my hands, on my back rose.

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When I saw the feeling the crowds, it was brilliant. Nights did
miss the start. Okay, theylooked, they looked very down on in
energy and the minute that that happened, Sean just took over. But however,
yeah, but what actually happened wasfor now, Blake Away the Egan

(01:11:26):
Ford Harris, they took over themiddle. They just crushed the middles.
And then and then all of asudden, the team who shows the best
shapes in the back line, they'vegot They've got this. They've got this
shape where they're basically behind each other. Okay, and then they swing around,

(01:11:50):
okay with nickel clots. That's sweepingaround. Okay. What happens is
Seawan's wide and he keeps on runningwhite and what happened. Everybody goes on
outside shoulders. And that's how theystrip you because they just keep a fanning
out and guess what. That's whythey can go shot on shot because they
just sweep around again and they dothe same movement. They are very very

(01:12:12):
well coached team, very well coachedteam. I love watching them play,
okay, but the key is theirforwards are got to go forward. Okay,
and that's what worries me about theweek coming. But in general,
okay, I enjoyed the game.It was great. And in the Schools
Indicator they got the Knights smash gotsmashed. But it was good. It

(01:12:36):
was good. Well, I'm lookingforward to the tips for this weekend's games.
But before we do, I wantto cross over to Hardy. What
have you got for us? Yeah, we just got a bit of spam
al mate, So what's the spammail We've got? Actually from homebush stop.

(01:12:59):
It like to thank Craig for hislovely gift that he's sent all the
way from Melbourne on the weekend.What a lovely guy remembering my birthday,
his birthday, his birthday. Itwas the other night. Well, another
craig man, mister Bellamy, JohnCruize. But he also said another one

(01:13:23):
straight after saying Ashley from home,she said, can Robot stop sending death
threats? Hew? Many times Ihave to tell him. I thought I
saw a hand, I thought,Yeah. Jospin has got a rumor dogs,
Yeah, I've signed a guy namedJohn Tanner, who John Tanna.

(01:13:43):
Yeah he's never played footy, buthe's wearing a par of jersey in front
of belmore So signing up. Sothat's that's the rumor there. And Josephine
has got some future news rumor anotherrumor, life after footy. Yeah,
apparently Ben Hunt he's looking to getinto the corrective service job because he's he's

(01:14:03):
got a lot of experience of becominga prisoner, so he wants to get
into Yeah, he's going to pullthe next he must. And that's about
it made. I haven't got mychelse really. Apart from that one thing,
I wanted to point out semifinals orthe preliminary final next year, next

(01:14:23):
week or this weekend. We've gotthe top four teams playing. Yeah back
again, just four, whereas inAFL they've got their same thing, but
they've got first versus seventh in oneside, and second versus fifth. So
they got two teams from the bottommate playing. The top two came seventh,

(01:14:44):
that's it. I think came fifteen. The Collinwood came fifth. Yeah,
I'm curious to see how that playsout. It might watch the grad
final start. Yeah, what adifference to the AFL competitive Yeah, you're
called called salary cap. I meanit's called a draft. No it's not.

(01:15:05):
I just just appended this time.It's because actually Kline doesn't reference it
would have been a different story ofactually the top four though right top four.
It just finds its way again.Yeah, well there's there's basically there's
two teams in the rest. Welllet's do it. Let's run through the

(01:15:26):
tips we've got two games. We'vegot Penrith storm on Friday night. Again,
I can't see anyone beating Penrith overthe next couple of weeks. What
do you guys see, say,mate, I've got Penrith winning this one
quite comfortably. Actually, I wasn'timpressed at all with Melbourne last week.
I thought that was very lucky withwith a couple of calls, and and
they're playing it depleted roosters, whois very depleted, scraped into the eight,

(01:15:50):
you know, and they're still missinga few as well, but yeah,
roosters were very depleted. Yeah,the Storm we're missing Pap has been
missing all year anyway. And whoelse are they missing? Your rem huge?
It was a huge, huge.Yeah, I'm missing Jarem huge,
Jerome huge. Yet that's it.But yeah, I can't see Penrith Panthers

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right. Yeah. Look, thegood news is that Isaac Tigo is back
in, so this team basically isfull full strength, with the exception Jerone's
named. Yeah, if he is, I fears out, they put Conger
straight in. I think we'll knowtomorrow because I was saying that's that's where

(01:16:31):
he's going to get the test.If it is test this tomorrow. Yeah,
he had it hit on Monday andapparently he passed that as also.
I don't know, but anyway,let's see what happens. Let's see what
happens. But in terms of thegame, I think he might get a
bit ugly by the end of it. I'm pretty sure that the Storm is
going to be well prepared because JohnCreis prepares their team. And as John

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Creis says, I know what theI know what Penrith does, but how
have you been how do you stop? Had he stomped? Okay, I
don't think they can. I thinkAcre Stadium too, Yeah, mistake.
But I think Fisher, Harris andMoses are going to go off off off
the Rockers, Lean Martin. Ithink they're going to go off the off

(01:17:15):
their rockers, and I think they'regoing to rip a hole through the Storm
middle and the Backs will do whatthe Backs do and it's going to get
ugly. I think this is goingto be Craig Bellamy's fiftieth Finals game.
Wow. Can you believe that?As it stands well, Ricky Stewart has
the most successful Finals win record ofany character. Really, I don't know

(01:17:41):
how, but he has he's like, look it up. He's like one
percent ahead of Craig Bellamy or something. Ricky Stewart he's been because he's won
two cops by default one comp becausehe won the first one that he's never
made the cop, never made thesemis again because he lost two Grand finals.
In a what if Webster, whowins this weekends he's got He's going

(01:18:04):
to be the most scessful. I'mjust looking at this up, so yeah,
it's it's it's the fiftieth game.A couple other quick stats made while
you're looking it up. Panthers havewon the past seven finals games, so
they've got seven games streaking finals,which is pretty good. Storm have won
five of their last six games atACUL, so their record is pretty good

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there the Storm. You know what, in terms of the Storm, they
can they can't scare. They can'tscare Penrith Okay, they've got the DNA
to scare Penrith at a Okay.But as the game goes on longer and
longer and longer, and penrif justkeep keep on doing what they do without

(01:18:49):
panic, with you know, kickingthe corners off, we go straight defense,
and when and when Merbourne can't seemto crack them and just keep on
and pen just keep on going andgoing and going. Then then by the
end of it they'll just break downand they'll just open up like a sieve,
you know what I mean. That'swhat That's what Penrith does. They

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play the long game. They don'tcare if they beat you in the first
minute, a minute or the eightiethminute, as long as they win.
So they just play one set andcredit two, credit two, Ivan Cleary,
they play one set pattern and theyjust keep on rinse and repeat,
rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, and as long as the forwards go
forward, well then the rest therest just happens around around them magically,

(01:19:35):
you know what I mean. Sois there a chance that Melbourne can win.
There's a chance, but very veryvery unlikely, very unlikely for Melbourne
to win. Look, Melbourne willlose at one point, be at forty

(01:19:57):
points, which I think will bemore or forty they're going to While I'm
looking for that other stat I've comeacross another interesting one. The Raiders of
the first team in the nr orera to play finals football without winning a
single game by thirteen plus in theregular season. Yeah, yeah, I'll
look it up for next week becauseI can't find out, but I did

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see it. That's amazing, statRicky. Yeah, I'm not a good
thing. Does anyone doubt the Broncosare going to roll the Warriors at some
court? I think the Warriors arein for a big chance, and one
thing that's going to be for sureafter this game, whoever losers will learn
a big lesson and be better andstronger next year. I think one of

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those guys are going to kick onnext year and make the final. But
I think the Warriors are a bigchance. Broncos are playing at home,
They're going to be nervous, abig crowd behind them, Warriors getting that
win off their back. We'll setthem up for Neil Blake's gonna They're going
to rely a lot on a loton him. You know. You know

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what, Nicola, everybody's riding thisfairy tale, and he's a beautiful fairy
tale it is. Can I justsay I want this fairytale to continue.
And all the podcasts that I've listenedto, they've given the Warriors a really
really really big big chance. Allthe big chance, I don't think so,

(01:21:29):
they've given they've given there, eventhe commentators they've given, I mean,
the professional commentators they've given Warriors area big chance. And look,
I can't say that they haven't gota good chance. Okay, but let
me read, let me read threenames for you. Flegler, hus Carrigan,

(01:21:50):
mhm. Game over. Yeah,because because because you're gonna have Yeah,
you could, you could, yougot, you have Paul fur Bla
trying to to go forward and gavefrom the middle. Because guess what,
Wade Egan, he's not going tofind the space that he's accustomed to.
Barnett, he's not gonna not gonnafight. Sorry, Ford, He's not

(01:22:14):
going to find the space nor themeters. But guess what. Guess what
I know for a fact, fora fact, you know, every carry
thirteen forteen meters you know for afact, uh Patrick, Patrick Carrigan.
Okay, besides, he'll smash youphysically. Okay, he'll make fifteen meters
forty thirteen meters every time he carriesthe ball. Okay, guess what I
know for a fact? Okay,before hust takes it up, you know

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Fleckler, Okay, he's going tostart the role. Okay, he guess
what who gets the ball? Afterthat? A half back called Reynolds.
I mean, that's what I saidtwo minutes ago. Can anyone see the
Broncos losing. I didn't see it, So I disagree with that because I
think to who Harris, I thinkis just as good as Krrigan, if
not better, you're discounting. Tellwho Harris. He's gonna up a lot

(01:23:00):
of Harry. He's going to gofor Neil Black's gonna be making the meters
just He's gonna have the same impactas House. I think it's up to
Barnett sort of follow through and dothe flegl role. I don't I don't
mind that. I think if theWarriors are going to win, it's on
the back of Webster just outsmarting Walters, because I think Webster is a better
coach, and I think Webster hasgot things in his mind going, how
are we're going to stop this?The only way, the only way that

(01:23:24):
they can win is if web StarHe's got a nive and cleary brain and
he has going to happen. Idon't know, man, Everyone everyone forgets
Walters has won five Premierships as aplayer. He knows what it takes.
So so, so the thing isthat the Broncos play a power game.

(01:23:46):
They don't wrestle on the ground.They want to get up quickly, okay,
and they want to punch you.They want to punch through you,
okay, okay. And then thenwhen the bull goes to the centners because
usually sentners a quick good players.I mean, on the other side,
we've got Berry a very good player, okay, Pompey a very good player.

(01:24:06):
But what you got, what yougot with what you've got with the
Broncos guys who punched the line likestags. He doesn't get the ball and
jump jump around and dance around,he'll punch you as well. Okay.
Then you've got Herbie farmers work whodoes jump around. The guess was when
it gets when it gets outside shoulder, he'll punch Okay. So I just

(01:24:29):
the stalls. You're gonna have SeanJohnson putting bombs up and lesbian act and
the other big guy running at BruceWalsh get shitless, drop ball drop if
everything. I agree, if theyget there, they will has got areas
in him too. I don't know, man, I think everyone's safely tipping

(01:24:51):
Brisbane, right, No, I'mgonna worries, You're going to worry.
I'd love the Warriors to win.I just think because they've got the game,
They've got the type of game tourupset, upset the Broncos. But
this forward pack has to equal,has to equal the Brisbane pack. And

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like I said, like you saidbefore, just one name, hus I'll
be honest with you. I wantto see Brisbane Penrith because they finished equal
first. That's the Grand Final.I want to see. I want I
want to I want the first tileto roll. The Broncos have only betten
than four times in the last tenworries, I hope. So how do

(01:25:35):
you think about Brisbane and Melbourne?How do you so? How do you
how do you excuse how do youexcuse Penrith rolling the Warriors? Don't say
Seawan Johnson because he would have madeno difference. Whoever gets in the finals
gonna get smashed. It's gonna bea three peat. Then they're gonna win

(01:25:56):
a three Patrick, I'm not surebecause the only tim to and upset him
is the style of By the way, if penritho wins three in a row,
going back to what you asked mea few weeks ago. No,
they're not as good as parent matterand I can prove it now. It's
easy. It's not individual individual.In eighty six, parents won the preseason

(01:26:17):
tournament, they won the midweek PenistonicCup. That I never will. They
lost the World Club Champions. Yeah, but what if they've been florid in
a row five in a row,I'll never I'll never admit it. Never
George's but eleven years in a row. Yeah, I think they will.

(01:26:41):
And I think in the fifties,no one's ever don no one's. I
listened to American pods, okay,and this team is on on five and
six winning routs, okay, andthey say, maybe that's the best ever
done. They go, I thinksome rugby team in Australia. Everyone,
it's a very different world talking aboutin Poland. You told me, didn't
they lose a semi final the Westand then buy the whole team the reserve

(01:27:04):
grade. There's a very different world. They bought six, they put reserve
grade. You know what, Theytook a kangaroo tour. They took four
from George's reserve grade because they willplay West last year. I want to
ask you a question, but Iwant to come back to it. I
want to ask you what this week'ssong of the week is. But before
we do, give us yours headbits. That's even Betters love light of

(01:27:30):
the World Champions happening, Nicola.We're following the ploight of the of the
World Champions. I'm not going totalk about what happened last week in Super
League because we're at the pen whereat the pen ultimate round, the last
round, and what happens in England. They all play same day, samey

(01:27:54):
soccer. Okay, so they allplay on the Saturday three o'clock. Won't
be any fudging of results exactly.But what we do now is it's the
top six and they play a littlebit different. Wigham, Catalans and Saint
Helen's all go on thirty eight,thirty eight points. They're all on thirty

(01:28:15):
okay, so they're going to comefirst, second and third. Okay.
There's some interesting games on the onthe weekend because Wigham, which I think
is the best team in the camp, is playing Lea Leopards. Oh yeah,
let's hope Wigham wins and they comethey come first. Okay, difference
again, I'm going for our team. The Leopards. Well, the Leopards

(01:28:38):
interesting there, they're gonna whatever happens, they're going to come fourth and they're
in the semifinals. They're playing WholeKR which was the team they played in
the Challenge Cup finals, which Schneider'sjust ripping it and ripping things up,
absolutely ripping up Nicolai's team. TheWarrington Warrington Wolves are on twenty six.

(01:29:00):
They're just they're just in the foureight, and Sulford's on sorry on twenty
six, and Sulfid's twenty six aswell. But so what Warrington is playing
what an Sultford is playing Gotalans inWarrington is playing Huntersville. I think both
will lose, so I think that'sthe eight. I think I think Soultfod

(01:29:24):
will lose and I think Warrington willlose on on Warrington against difference, they're
all so Warrington's not too far aheadin for against So whoever loses by the
basic well, they've won six outof they've lost, so Souftford can get
to six easily. But I thinkI think Gotlands will will beat them.

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I think Gotland will yeah, sothat's the top eight. Yeah, but
if Gotland's only burdened by two andWarrington lose by thirty then South going front.
Ye, well there, but it'snot going to happen. That's that's
the top eight. Can I justsay something about Warrington next year the coach,
there's going to be big, SamNicola. He's wildered the acts already.

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He's taps six on the shoulder onthe on the shoulder. So next
year the they're welcome to find anotherclub Nicola. We've also got the announcement
that junior pieces are retiring. Yes, this is his last I'm still trying
to find this wicky Stewards that thisis his last year. They play top

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six, who comes first and second? Nicola has a week off straight into
prelims. Okay, the best way, so first, second week off,
straight week off, okay, beautifulweek off. So the three plays six
and five plays four and who winsout of that gave into prel that's that's

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a good. So that's a good. So they sent me final is three
weeks two weeks in a grand final, so it's important to come first and
second. And he's got the statshere, so so what what he got
in idea for us? So theWarrington Wolves are on twenty six seventy plus
seventy three where Devils a minus sevenseven different. So you know what,

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that's the eight, that's the sixth. Sorry, that's going to be six
us US will win the six,okay, so they're safe. The other
thing is the unfortunately Wakefield Trinity isgoing to go down the Nicola. They're
coming last year unfortunately Wakefield and fourwins. Yeah, they've got four wins,

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four wins this year, the Tongsfour wins this year. Saint's got
five, they got four. Okay, Well they're they're going down and and
it looks like his other team Olympicscoming coming up. They're still going to
play the million pound game. Okay, but by looks of it, they're
the best team in the first division. So that's what we've what they're exciting.

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I can't wait to watch to watchthe final, the final round Nicola.
Exciting stuff there, but I'd stillsay that looks and Helen's he's talking
a big show, but no one'sgot anything like cal Piece. Poor no,
and we're going to see him ina row which is great. Yeah,
looking forward to that Nicola. NW. Well, we're in we're

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in the semi finals semifinals. TheMan, the Man of Feathers said that
there's been six point two me andviewers for the for the regular season rounds,
which he says he's unprecedent. Also, Nicola the Paramatta, the Parameter,

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the Paramatter team hasn't had too manywins made, but they've made some
history. They played on the weekend. They lost fifty sixty six, which
which marks the biggest losing score ofany NRLW team. So they're in.
They're in the history books, inthe history books again. This week,

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Nicola and the Knights are playing theBroncos in one semifinal and the Roosters are
playing the Titans in another semifinals.Can you can you see anything but a
Knight's Rooster's Final? No, Ican't. There the two best teams.
Let me let me just say thatthe teams in the top four Nicola were
established teams from last year, sonone of the new teams got in,

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which shows that they did. Theydid, and look, we keep on
making history, like I said lastweek, but unfortunately they got depleted.
What he came, came and raiding. But apparently they're going to stock up
again. But this well, thisis what I promised you. This is

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this is what I promised you aboutParamatta. I think this paramount of team,
this eral W team was absolutely pathetic. And you know where it starts
from the head. Yeah, thecoach Dean Winners should get sacked. Dean
Winners, Dean Winners should get sacked. He's a disgrace. He's not a
coach at best. At best,he's an under fourteens coach for you know,

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somewhere in the back of Burke okay, and what we should do,
okay, for definite victories, fordefinite victories, you bring bring Brad Arthur
to the n n W teams.Okay, and get on the phone to
Madge for the NR real team.Yeah, I'm all for it. I

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can already tell you what Brad Arthur'sgoing to tell them in their first training
session. We're gonna chase the collision. We're gonna focus on the effort areas,
the same shit out here every Sunday. Mate. But what's your thoughts
do you think they should He's notgetting sacked, he's just getting the all
for it. And I would welcomeMadge with opening there you go, that's
welcome with open arms. He's gota zero percent win rate. It's something

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else called on the serious side.The amount of feathers. Wants to increase
the competition by two next year andeight teams. Yeah, but eight coaches
out of ten say no, wedon't even have enough good coaches. We
haven't. Yeah, we've got enoughcattle. What the coaches will prefer to

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do is to start a genuine reservegrade to bring the division well, a
reserve grade. So you bring theQueensland Cup teams into our competition and have
genuine well no, they have genuinepathway. So you group the girls more
developed girls. So that's what they'rewhat you're talking about. The women.
The women. No, no,no, the women. So like I

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said, the men, they're readyto to inject two more teams based on
performance cattle. Well we haven't.No, no, we haven't. Canterbury
and Canterbury and Penif We're right togo because they actually want the full compliment
whatever in roal team is. Theywant an inneral w team. But they've

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stopped that. Hopefully and hopefully theman of Felters have listened to the coaches
and they'll have a genuine, genuinereserve grade with the que Cup there,
Nicota. I was watching some otherfootage of you know, my favorite team,
My favorite team is the of alltime? Is that paramounta team that's

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my favorite team? And when I'mdepressed, high whatever, I go searching
on YouTube and basically I won't lieto you to watch Pedi Sterling. But
I was watching a game against NorthSydney at North Sydneval and who still stood
out? Remember eighty four eight threethree. Okay, Well, who stood

(01:36:57):
out for me at that game wasRay Price and he's he's our player in
profile. I'm going to change itup a little bit because there's so much
about him. Okay, I haven'tgot the time to talk about him,
but let me give you this scenario. He played for Parramatta two hundred and
fifty eight times and he scored fiftyeight tries and you probably remember every one

(01:37:21):
of them, Nicola. He playedfor the New Southfols fifteen times and scored
six tries. He played for Australiatwenty two times and scored ten tries.
And he was a member of thatInvincibles team eight two, eighty six,
eighty two and eighty six. Youknow, he played for the New South
Fols City five times. It wascalled four tries and he played for Wakefield

(01:37:43):
Trinity. Did you know that hewas also a Jill International. He played
for the wild him. He thoughtabout that yet he played for Wakefiel Trinity
twenty five times. They went Englandand they went to England. That was
they used to do it. Inthe off season. Stern and Kenny played
for Holland Weekend. They played eachother in a Challenge Cup final in eighty
five eighty six. I remember,yeah, I was just used to do
that a lot blocker roach when overthere to try and service dispatch so they

(01:38:06):
could come back and laying a grandfinal. Never got players now complaining that
they're playing too many games because theseguys played the whole season here a season
in where anyway, let's go.Some of his awards are Nicola. He
won the Rothman's Medal, which isthe DAM nineteen seventy nine, at the
same year he won the Sudle.The Sutherland Meddle in seventy nine, which

(01:38:28):
is probably a Paramattadal eighty two wasa dally m Era Nicola and he got
another DAM back then. He isinducted in the Hall of Fame ninety two.
He was named in the in theParamatta Legends team, he was named

(01:38:50):
the Greatest Lock four Paramatta. TheNU named him as the a member of
the top one hundred plays of alltime. Uh And of course, as
you said, he was a jewelin Juel International and has a statue outside

(01:39:10):
Paramount of stadium to show you hisin his importance. Mister perpetual motion,
Mister perpetual motion. He was bornin nineteen fifty three. He's the only
player who I've probably ever seen inrugby league in any era, who when
he comes out of the tunnel lookslike the game's over, but it's before

(01:39:31):
the game started. I'm not joking. His face is full of vasoline and
he looks bashed up before the gameafter. So what I got here was
you know, you just said hewas nicknamed mister perpetual motion, and Stlow
said that Price he would put hishead where I wouldn't put my foot.

(01:39:53):
Yeah, okay, and I thinkyou're right now. I didn't write anymore
because I watched a lot of alot of Pricey you know, to what
what what's Sterling Ella Kenny and therest done. They couldn't have done it
without Price Price any good back right, yes, half, yes, but

(01:40:17):
back then in that in that particularteam, what he would do he had
a very specific skill set. Okay, what he would do no one else,
no one else could do and woulddo. Okay, those those little
drop balls, those little covering tackles, those really really dirty muddy runs.

(01:40:43):
Remember back five, not back ten, back five, So those really ugly,
ugly, messy runs which you knowmost of the front rolls didn't want
to do. He was the guy. He was the guy doing it,
you know. And who can forgetthat that stands and you can explain to
us when someone was going for agold he would stand. He would stand

(01:41:05):
facing the goal kicker, put hisarms up and lean to the side to
try and create an optical illusion prayingmantis, wasn't it. Yeah, so
if it apparently, I never sawit work. Would I never saw it
work? But points for trying,right, And like I said, he

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was, he was. He wasprobably a Bradley Clyde before Bradley Clyde.
Yeah you know what I mean.So Bradley ce similar type players, actually
different areas, but very similar typeplayers. And if you want, there's
nothing like him in today's rugby Leagler. There's no one, you know.
I mean maybe maybe Stone is theclosest thing, but not even not even

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that, because he actually had hadsome skills. He knew how to hit
a hole. He did have apop on him. Okay, and you
know again he helps having Kenny's thirdand was around you and he was aggressive
as well. Okay, so youknow what people like bugged in and these
front rolls you had, not thatthey weren't good front They weren't good for

(01:42:10):
rolls. They've done their job,but they weren't aggressive. There weren't hard
graves, you know what I mean. But he was the one. He
was brought. Yeah, he wasthe leader of that that that that pack
and you look, you had Edgycoming and obviously edge was when he came
here. Was he played a hugerole in the first few years of that
team was built around. Well hewas a leader. Yeah, he was

(01:42:30):
a leader. He's still there.You know, Edgy, it still works
at the club. Good good sayshould be say should be. So I'm
going to say again, like anotherplayer that I spoke about last week,
which was one of my favorite players. He gave me, with Sterling,
Ella and Kenny, a lot ofpleasure. I know it was a Bulldog.
I know it was a Bulldogs man, and that in that era,

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the Bulldogs gave us just as goodthinking. Anyone from that era who was
an Eels or Bulldogs fan respects theother. If you can't not, well
you can't know. If you thinkeight Grand finals between between them between that
decade, If you think about it, the whole game plan of the Bulldogs

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was to get us into a grind. That's all they cared about, okay,
because if you let Paramatta do whatParamatta would do naturally, okay,
we'll get ripped apart. We didn'thave Ken Sterley in la and in the
backs, okay. So all ourgoal was to get us into a forward
bash. And that's that. Youhave you heard about the umbrella defense that
the Walk designed, So from theback rollers that would sprint up okay,

(01:43:41):
and the Fords wouldn't wouldn't move upthat much, okay, to try to
get the ball turned back inside.They wanted a forward bash and you know
what they got it. They gotit nine times out of ten. Paramatta
didn't want to do it, butsomehow the Walk had worked it out and
Paramatta would get into a fulld likethat Grand Final, which which no trial
was scored, because really, ifyou let it go, the Paramatta will

(01:44:04):
smash us. But because they gotinto the forward, which was out of
what I'm trying to do is goback to the price. He was the
guy who took the whole pack on. He wasn't he wasn't going he wasn't
going backwards. I don't want toI don't want to digress you, but
you just made me think of somethingbecause I don't think about that whole era

(01:44:27):
and the great Grand Finals, right, and and there was a lot of
teams that played each other like twicetwo years in a row or whatever.
Or there's a lot of teams thatmaybe missed the Grand Final, but they
were there a year later. Idon't think we have that today, and
and and maybe I'm way off themarket here, but what I mean by
that is for the great teams likePenn is a great, great team in

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the moment, right, but theydon't really have any great opposition. They
could potentially be playing the third orfourth different team in a row. The
last team they beat didn't even makethe eight. But there's no other pennerth
team up there at the moment,it's just them by themselves. When you
look at these great teams over thedecades, it was never like that,

(01:45:13):
you know what I mean? Yeah, it can re pennitth played each other
two years in a row. Yeah, Bulldogs Eels, Eels mainly the salary
kept came in and then they madematter for example, strip of player,
let's get rid of him. That'swhy. That's what didn't get that.
It's just interesting because like I said, if if I mean who Penrith they
lost to Melbourne who they beat?I forgot that year after that they lost

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to Melbourne. They lost to Melbourne. Then they won the grand final.
So they're played the fourth different teamin a row, fourth different team in
a row, which shows you thelevel of opposition isn't there. But if
if you look at the Minor Premiershipthough in the last ten years it's Penrith,
Roosters and Storm. No one elsehas one at those three. Yeah,

(01:46:01):
minor Premiers has been four different teamsin four grand finals. It's just
the grand final that four different teamsthat are are Yeah, So that that
that That's what I'm just saying thatthe level of greatness they're kind of there
by themselves at the moment. Celerycap there's no team. Well, I
don't know if it is a salarycap because according to well, that's a
contradiction when you talk about the minorpremiership. Yeah, which one is it?

(01:46:26):
You can't you can't. You can'thave it both ways, either salary
kepts working or it's not. No. Well, another thing that's different as
well is teams like Coronala who playall the easy teams are up there communal
minor Premiership, but they haven't playedall the same same teams twice. So
it's to do with the draw weredifferent back in then you're playing everyone twice
twice. Back then the great teamsfind their way to the grand finals.

(01:46:47):
Yeah, but those those two teamsand you just throw at some stage million
and camera back end of the eightiesuntil the nineties and and Penrith, Yes,
that's absolutely a bad pen back andthen as well and then the Dragons
place that was in the nineties.But I'm just saying, yeah, yeah,
mainly and Cannerbury mainly and that,you know what I mean? Like,

(01:47:13):
yeah, anyway, no, Ihear what you're saying. Oh here
we're saying those those those great teamsare not well, we have one.
We think we have one. I'vefound the competitions closer to back then,
there wasn't many blowouts in the finals, in the finals. The finals was
finals because maybe there, but ingeneral there was blowout. It's always blowouts
anyway. It didn't mean to takefrom no, no, no, no.

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Well, I love talking about thisParamouna and this Bulldogs team. I
went back and looked at scores atthat eighty three eighty four, Paramoutta and
Bullock. I mean Bulldogs didn't havethe team to blow teams away. Yeah,
we didn't know. We grinded.We're grinding team straight through the middle
of Okay, but Paramounta did blowteams away, and they would go,

(01:47:55):
you know, thirty forty, thirtyforty hard game, thirty four hard game,
you know what I mean, Abit like Super League, you know
what I mean. But they hadthey had, they had the ammunition that
would no other thing had what theyhad God's sake, you know, I
mean they could play half half goodenough still win, you know, I
mean the ammunition they had back then. Okay, you can't say that for

(01:48:15):
the Bulldogs at that stage. We'llpack of grinders a massive pack of grinder.
You know what I mean. Yeah, I mean if you look at
I mean we had terby early,but then we had Jason Eltch and things
like that. You know what Imean, Yeah, Sterlough, No,
Kenny, you know what I mean. So that was that era. But
anyway to look, he had apretty handy player called Terry Lamb. We

(01:48:39):
did have, but thank god forb and one of my one of my
all time favorites, and a guywho's put a lot of smiles on my
face. And like I said acouple of weeks ago, we done.
We've done, but we've done,but we've done by and look next week
I'll look for well you can saythis is for you. I don't know.

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You know what do the person yousaid two weeks ago, not Gale,
the other guy from Blake, fullBlake. I'll do full Blake.
I half started doing it. Oneof the great sledges of his time.
For the way yeah, he's playedfor he was a journeyman and the half
he's one of the great sledges ofhis time. Jenny said in his book,

(01:49:20):
he really yeah Phil Blake, PhilBlaken. Interesting stat. No,
I'm going off course a him here'sanother interesting stat. I don't think and
I almost moved in next door tohim years ago. But anyway, I
don't think there's a player who hatesParamount more than Phil Sigsworth pol Bath.

(01:49:42):
Yeah, twice or three times.Phil Segsworth played in three Grand Finals for
three different clubs, lost all threeto past full bastun Manly Canterbury on the
first player to be sent off inthe Grand Final eighty six six worth Yeah,
ful Gool said a really funny storyabout that new Town team. Yeah,

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you know when the big brawl startedout one eighty one was started up,
wasn't it. Yeah, it wasa price not it wasn't No,
no, not not the paramoun whenthey played Manly. Oh yeah that was
Apparently. Tommy rocks up on Mondaytraining and he goes, we're just we're
just standing around. He goes,mate, they're calling us dogs, dogs

(01:50:31):
and cats. It's on. It'son. I can hear it's on if
they're telling me. He goes,we didn't listen to him. Next training
again he came black. He goes, mate, I'm tweeting now it's on.
It's got to be on, youknow. I mean, I'm telling
you now they're calling us dogs,they're calling us cats, this and that.
You know what I mean. Bythat time, if you remember,

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Gillespie had gone to Gillespie had goneto man Manly. Manly was a Gillespie
No, no, no, theManly Grandfont, the Manly thing. Who
was It wasn't got Espie anyway.One player he had played for, and
he told everybody Mainly goes playing.Yes, Gus said this story. He
goes, he had told everybody that, you know what it's going to be.

(01:51:13):
On the first grumb I'm planing out. Tommy's going to put it on.
Put it on. So Warren Ryan'sgiven the address there before the game.
Tommy gets up to uh to Warren. He goes, you've done,
Warren. He goes, no,you're Tommy. Wait a minute. Okay,
So he's you know, he's sayhe's telling him what to do,
how to do it. He getsup, He goes, you're done,
You're done the Warren. He goes, yeah, I'm done. He goes,

(01:51:36):
get up, guys. He goes, right, forget everything he said,
right, it's on the first oneeats on, okay, eats on.
You know what I mean. Hegoes, we got we got in
there, you know, I mean, because we're walking to the scrum.
He goes, we're all shaking,you know what I mean. The referee
goes, put it in. Hegoes, it's not going in, you
know, he goes, you putit in. He gas bag. As

(01:51:58):
we started, we started us.They knew it was coming on. That's
why we got You got elevated somuch because they knew it was on.
He goes, He goes, andhe goes, whatever the referee is going.
Listen, Tommy, you got tostop this. Listen that go and
tell him. He goes. Hecame back, He came back to us
and he goes. Was that wasthat? He goes, They stopped that.
She keep that ship up, youknow what I mean. Miss those

(01:52:19):
days? If we go, hegets off, you go again next sac
week. I missed those days.It was just but the way Gus says
it, I said, I look, I can't remember. It's so funny.
But that was that was that.That was funny. I appreciate that,
George. That was good. Thatwas good. Anywa, Donica's story
is a good story. So lastyear again, what is the song of

(01:52:42):
the song of the week, Andyou know what I was reminiscing the first
time I met out here Nicola backin the mid eighties. There came on
you a mutual friend of his,and you're a mutual friend of his.
And I made him at at aclub there and he goes, I'll introduce
someone, my friend. I sawyou, guys, the guy over there
and on the dance floor, andI see there flowing flowing. In the

(01:53:08):
movies where they get back to whenthey met, they all had long hair
flowing. You know what, youknow what you know? Girl, girls
all around, girls all around,And do you remember the something that was
playing when you're dancing with all thesegirls? When was it? Mate?
Back in the Polish club the nineties, that was eight eighty five was modern
talking Remember the song. I'll tellyou that. It was an Italian was

(01:53:35):
Antangian band. And the difference ofthis Itanian band was there was a female
singer and she she didn't look Italian. She was a colored I know you're
talking, man, Come Brina.It was boy. It was it was
black box, black box. Itwas black box. They even how are

(01:53:55):
they Italian? She was aking time? You know it's around in the middle.
Give this one. She was coloredanyway, and it was everybody,
everybody, and he was dancing,and so that's the I was reminiscing in
the late eighties. Later I wasin high school. Sorry was Eli?

(01:54:19):
Sorry? Sorry wasn't that yeah,eighty nine nineties? I met you a
bit earlier than I be wrong,But let's say let's say it was eighty
nine. Black Box was on,and that's the meeting nut and I remember
that song how on everybody, everybody? You just need to about four or

(01:54:41):
five girls. And then I gotscared and I went with g two sisters.
I'll get uh, I'll get uh. The boy went to hut that
stuff that on my Sanny Walkman inhigh school. The one thing we forgot
minnoities sort of lucky paid and therewas there was Look. I spoke to

(01:55:05):
him because of a minlogy. We'regoing to give one out. He goes,
whatever you do, don't give itto a Melbourne player because he's still
cut up with It's a referee,Sean Johnson, wouldn't it. So I
asked him and his eyes lit upwhen I said this name, we're going
to give it to this guy's hadan outstanding season. As soon as I
said lesbian. He said, yes, bring the lesbian act. I argue,

(01:55:28):
Yeah, so we've given it tolesbian. He'll love it. Yeah,
he's way to get to females togo and ask for the door,
and he's going to see this lotrichie looking guy go up and ask for
it. It's going to be funnyand things wouldn't have to fork out to
bring him up. Sidney already,ye'll be there. So I love it.
I love it. I love itbeautiful. So Beau wraps us up,
boys, and the next time we'resitting here, we'll be talking about
the Grand Final. The granny grannycan't wait. Actually I might, I

(01:55:51):
might go a little bit more indepth. We just skimp on the games
usually because of time factors, butI might go a little bit deeper in
both these prelimbs and what we thinkmight happen in the Grand Final. If
Penrith win, I'll say it now, I reckon to be an absolute one
of the best Grand Finals in along time, because we're going to two

(01:56:13):
very good side. I really hopethat different different sides, different copper sides.
And you know what that Brisbane obviouslylack a lot of experience at that
level. But that an't struck meas the team who fear anything, I
don't think so. I don't thinkthe occasion. I don't think the occasion
will get to the players like Walshand that Stags. I don't think.
I just don't think it. Well, certainly not Reynolds. The only difference

(01:56:36):
which you can bring up the Broncosis can they because I haven't seen it,
can they stay in the fight andbe very efficient? Well, I'll
tell you what not because it's paramatter. But if Penrith turned up the way
they did last year, no one'scoming close. And that's what I was
going to say, because I liketalking with facts. Okay, you know,

(01:57:00):
some one's going to tell me anda lot of people have already told
me what I said us Fleggler,Carrigan, and you want to say to
them last year I saw Leoda andyeah, and what's his name? Comes
down absolutely rip a heart out ofyou know, when it comes down to

(01:57:20):
the whole pack comes down to thisweekend and who pulls up yes, okay,
out of its injuries can play amassive you know. That's why I'm
always an advocate for the week offbetween the prelim and the Grand Final.
We're not going to have that.We talked about that and I've got a
different view of that. I agreewithout the week a week off, but
I think it's the week off shouldbe a celebration. You're saying, you're

(01:57:44):
saying to get ready. I'm sayinga two week gap, right, So
you've got a week off between theprelim and the Grand Final. So after
this week, the Grand Finals twoweeks later. I agree. The first
week, the whole, the whole, fortnights of celebration, fest of all
street parades, whatever. But forthe players, week one, it's all

(01:58:04):
the media commitments, Grand Final breakfast, all that bullshit. Week two is
you bunk, are the only getready for the game in the film.
That's how I look at it.But this could be the start of a
huge rivalry, just like Canterbury andParents. I really could Brisbane Penrith.
I really hope it's three or fouryears potentially, you never know, potentially

(01:58:25):
young teams. Yeah, potentially gettingbecause that's exactly the point that I was
making. I want to see thatit could happen. And Yang you you
know, like if you won't havea good champion, we need to have
a good opponent. That's it.Potentially the next couple of a couple of
years. If they stay on thesame projectory, we could have a rival.
If the team stay as they are, they won't if the Salary Cup

(01:58:47):
doesn't doesn't rip them apart. Ifthey've already been the play the spines as
long as their spines. We knowthat they're going to get ripped apart.
They're going to get penrif getting rippedapart as we speak, and and the
Broncos are little too far behind.And it's saying that the Broncos can have
third party. Those are a littlebit, a little bit different, different

(01:59:08):
different. Anyway, let's wrap itup because I want to hear everybody everybody
that is everyone else. Ye,I don't even know what it takes for
another great night. That was fun, That was fun, That was fun.
And viewers are you won't belong tome and let you know. I

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want along and see your next time. Lie, I feel the line,
but you want to stay so longand I'll just let me around. My

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heart won't bel I don't have anybody. Everybody everybody has anybody everybody, everybody,

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everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody, anybody, you can easy and

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lend me go. I never wantto see that cheating kind you feel like
you never look for me. Solong a time, I got one.

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No no no no no no nono no. Everybody, everybody, everybody,

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everybody, everybody, everybody,