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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Oh ho ho.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
The Panthers have woe.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
For brandyship stea around in the Jesus.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
I love.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
That they can win just one more.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Guys had a fighting plan. He's secondary signing Van. Then
I haven't got off his bus to work with name Van.
The build to play in nursery had formed the dynasty.
That dynasty show looks like it is. Oh over now,

(00:56):
oh ho ho.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
The Panthers have one.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
For reading ships.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
And the chances allow.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
That they get me five.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
They won so many games, but they lost so many players.
Works in Kate, welcome rois Ou, kick out cry Fisher, Harrison,
LOUI gone. Now the dynasty is done. The only five
in row they got with five games.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Losezing now.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Oh ho ho the Fildes, I'm done, way leave the cat.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
It's tragic.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
They're not ready. Five.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Welcome back quick hands right for the podcast, Season three,
episode seven. What was that?

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Oh that was me being.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Silly, silly. I want to thank you a producer.

Speaker 6 (02:28):
That just welcoming guys, tenure Ardie George.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
Guys, did you like that?

Speaker 6 (02:35):
I like back in the saddle again.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
I went do that again?

Speaker 6 (02:39):
That was good, that was funny, It was it was funny.
George waits around six in the can.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
In the can, in the can, I'm.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Going to steal the same lane, the same line that
Break the Nasty uses every night at n l C sixty.
Huge show tonight. Right, there's a couple of interesting things
to talk about before we go. There are what's your
good Thing of the week? And by the way, we
missed you last week.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Thanks. Sorry I can't make it last week, but I
heard the pod was great. Pod guys us did a
great job. So when am I expecting my redundancy?

Speaker 6 (03:10):
So we can't do that until the first time. I remember,
I can't talk about it just year because.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
My manager has already been talking around out there.

Speaker 6 (03:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Good thing of the week it goes to a man
named jend Boy. He's a young Norwegian goalkeeper. He's not
related to running Ronald, not related at all to the
too Dutch, the toonder boar and what's the Ronald the
ball relation? No relation.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
No.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
He saved the penalty on his debut for Club Bruin
f K. They ended up losing one nil, but he
got four. He got the man of the match. He
did and he got rewarded four trays of eggs from
Michael Barner. Now you know what, he's now looking to
join the Tigers because in ten years you'll get a
barbie you with that. But that was my good thing
of the week gender bar from the local Sportsman. True story.

(04:07):
It was a true story.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
I sort of facebook so and this is the part
of the show every week where I've got to shake
my own hand.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
That was next.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
Okay, what's it all right? The para matterials, let's move on.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Again.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
Well, I think I think it's self explanatory. Let's uh,
let's get out a controversy corner we've got. There's a
couple of big things to talk about. Obviously, do you
guys want to start with Lockland Galvin or Spencer Theen
You lucky start with Locklan? You so everyone knows what's
going on with Galvin rejected five year, five million dollars

(04:43):
off from the Tigers before. Now there's a lot to
talk about. But before you go any further, it actually
has in the last hour released the statement, So I'll
read that out. I'll read that out verbatim. I totally
understand my decision. Sorry my voice, I totally understand my
decision will frustrate many West Tigers fans, but please know

(05:06):
that it wasn't an easy call to make. It's a
decision that I have discussed at length with my parents',
closest friends and family. I'm extremely grateful for their love
and support in making this call. The biggest reason why
I made this call now is so that the West
Tigers have enough time to plan their roster without me
in the future. That's the absolute truth of it. The
club were eager to get a deal done and so

(05:27):
they called a meeting with my management last week. I
could have mulled over this decision all season, but I
didn't think that was the right thing to do. I
thought it would be best for everyone to make the
call now rather than drag it out. Any suggestion that
I already have a deal done at another club for
twenty seven is simply not true. I'm extremely grateful to
be able to go to work every day as an

(05:49):
NROL footballer, and the West Tigers have played a massive
role in the opportunity I have to play this game.
I just feel that as I move into an important
period of my development a half that I continue to
build my game at a different club.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Again.

Speaker 6 (06:04):
I know this might be hard for some people to understand,
but I make this decision in the best interest of
my career.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's his statement, signed Isaac Moses.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
Probably his father also made a few comments. I don't
know if you guys want to hear that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so his father, James Galvin said, I can understand how
Tiger's fans feel, but as his father, I can also
understand why Lachlan feels he needs to change. I want
the best for my son and his development as an
NRL player, and for that I'm supportive of his decision,
as he's the one who knows his game best. As

(06:37):
a family, we're comfortable that Lucky is backing himself as
a young man. What I know is that Lucky will
continue to do his best for the club for the
remainder of his time here.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Like you kill him, my father, you kill him, my
poor dad, kill him, my poor dad. Well there you go,
there you go.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
This is a polarizing topic. I'm it's obviously interested to
hear what all you guys think. My take on it,
very quickly is I don't see what anyone's done wrong.
Every player at every club has until November one two,
you know, test them, test their value on the market.
I don't understand why he's been ostracized. That's just my
take on it. You know, you know what, it was

(07:16):
the club that shut him down, right, he said he
wanted to test his value in the club will be here,
you know what, Nico, That's how I understand it.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
I think the media is making a big thing out
of it. You know what, at last there's some green
shoots out of this club after a very very long term,
terminal decade and the brightest star is is opted to leave.
Why with a lot of innuendos. You know, he doesn't
like the coaching this that he came out and he

(07:45):
told us why, that's his statement, has has has you know,
what we see is what we get. No, of course
we know he's our parents of his parents have waived
the magic wand there's no doubt in all of our
minds that his manager has put his twenty cents in.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
Isn't that his manager's job? Give him the best.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
His managers?

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, but his manager is the one I was reading
to say about it. He's like well known for making
moves like this. He's called desk out of Tigers.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Yeah, but hasn't he got every one of his clients
the best deal possible. I mean, it's hard to.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Argue rejected Lachlin already because that.

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Way I deal with Moses. But I mean, isn't isn't
the desk better off for having gone to the roosters
in the last five years?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Probably? But how do you know if Moses and Teddy
stayed at Tigers, how do you know Tigers wouldn't be But.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
I mean, at what point does the club turn around
and look at itself and say, what are we doing wrong?
Because everyone keeps wanting to leave. So again I was
telling George earlier and I don't know the details, right,
we only know what we read. But the way I
look at it, and again when out knowing intimate details
of it, it looks like me, it looks to me
like a seasoned campaigner being rich O right, Richardson, he's

(09:11):
shot himself in the foot here because he's gone off emotionally. Now, Now,
if I'm if I'm sitting at the other end of
the table and I want this kid and his manager says,
we want to test that value on the open market,
and in my head, I'm going no way. The first
thing I'm going to say is sure, I understand and
we'll support you.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Just let us know what you need.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Because in my head I'm saying to myself, well, I've
got I've still gotten to November to flip it, so
let's play it smart.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
But they didn't.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
They reacted emotionally and they did the opposite. Came out,
well he won't be here. Well now he won't be there,
so any chance you did have of keeping him is
gone because you went off early. When if he was
a smart operators as as he apparently is, he would
realize he's got over six months to lock this kid in.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
There's something doing because this is the third time he's
asked for release. He hasn't asked for release.

Speaker 6 (10:02):
George, you never asked him before. The club has been
trying to lock him down this time.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
Ye.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
No, even at the end of last year they tried
to and they're saying we're not we're not ready to
talk yet.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
So he didn't ask for release least, never asked for
a release.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Okayot thought you get me out. Oh that was buzz buzz,
and then they shut it down.

Speaker 6 (10:26):
He didn't ask for a release, Okay, he simply didn't commit.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Okay, you know what My take on this and look
if he wants to leave because he's he doesn't want
to be coached by Benji, thinks he's got a better
chance elsewhere. Well, if I was him, I would be
only wanting to go to Cleary, Bellamy, Robbo or Benet.
I wouldn't want to go anywhere else.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
What's the roller?

Speaker 1 (10:46):
What's he done?

Speaker 6 (10:47):
Want to com I think it's pretty obvious. Want to
com No, but in the last two years, look what
he's doing.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Doesn't want to comp?

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Well, that's not that's not the telling factor though.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I mean Webster got Warriors close easier, supercate.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
How many coaches have won the comp? How many current coaches?

Speaker 1 (11:02):
I don't understand what his name.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Is in it? Well, you know what everyone's forgetting here
and ten I'm can you get your thoughts on this right?
Everyone's saying, oh, it's it's wrong because he feels he's
not going to develop under Benji. You know, it's disrespectful
or whatever. What's Benji done apart from winning Wooden Spoon,
He's done nothing. It was his first year, his second year,

(11:24):
he's one. I wouldn't He's one. I wouldn't. We'll surrounded
in his third year. Yeah right, and he's done a
lot better than Benji. What's he done right, he's well,
they're coming first and they undefeated. According into the round six? Yeah,
quarter away.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Into the round six. Can I just say about like
you lost last year's final, one game lost the finals,
got to the final, they lost.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
It's given. You seriously can't tell me the Bulldogs aren't
the hottest team in the competent.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
So Benji gets the makes the finals this year in
his second year. He hasn't done the same as Sirolde
got his team from the ship in the finals in
the second year. You think you will, you never know.
He's there In.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Terms of terms of young lucky he's nineteen. Like he
really doesn't know what good coaching is he yet? Like
INEW my view, you know what I mean, what does
he know about coaching?

Speaker 6 (12:09):
So like we didn't have one, he hasn't had one
first grade coach.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
So well, like we say, it's it's it's things all around.
This is you know, it's what we see is not
what we get. Now, if he generally wants to move
to a super club, you mean, look, go for it,
fair enough.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
It'd be nice. Sticks to Cleary, he'd be grateful.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
That's old. What do you think clearly?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah, well, Jerome actually put a post on Instagram when
he was behaving so well. But he put a post
upon his stories saying team first.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
Which is funny coming from a guy who signed the
contract eighteen months out before he left his club. Yeah,
no double, no double standards there and happy curs who,
along with Jerome sorry, complained about him happy when he
signed his contry with the Tiger's insulted the club and
fans by making fun of them and saying I'm going
to get my first wooden spoon. He wasn't wrong. He's

(13:07):
got three now.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
But Richard is building a nice team around him anyway.
Sorry Tea, Yeah, sorry.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
I just think it's and Artie. Last week before we
jumped on, I gave Georgia a thirty minute insight into recruitment.
I think it's it links back to that, right, so
even if you look at leadership and everything else. But
also so the way I read it was he declined

(13:34):
the contract first, and then subsequently all these things came
out about you know, unrest and everything in the team
and just the gossip we don't know and if he
wants to go go. But it's it's like if I
if I'm talking to candidates and they want to hold out,
he won't stay there till November.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Anyway, It's unable.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's great, and it's great that he's done the statement
and everything, but I guess you know in my experience
with the managers and like player managers that they do
think about the player, but obviously they get paid, right,
So I don't know, you don't know where the truth lies.
But it would be really disappointing if he gets impacted

(14:18):
by this because he's what would he know, would it not?

Speaker 6 (14:21):
I think there's two important things to remember here as well. Right,
his manager would have got a juicy commission from a
five year, five million dollar signing, So I think everyone's
feeting that. And I think the other thing as well
is and I could be wrong, correct me if I'm wrong.
I haven't seen anywhere where he's come out and said

(14:43):
it's Benji. He said, my development in the club. The club.
The club has been a basket case for a decade.
This club has not made the finals in thirteen years
in a competition where half of the competition makes the finals.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I think that's why, right.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
It's the reaction is because we're starting to see some
green shoes.

Speaker 6 (15:03):
There might be more, but I'm just saying there might
be more behind the scenes that we're not aware.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Definitelys were in a similar position and then Richardson came
in there and he fixed it up and they won
their first con. And he's doing he's doing well. He's
doing well. You've got to give him time. He's not
going to fix it in one or two years. He
needs a few more years. And he's starting to build
a team around him. The spine is brilliant and that's why,
and that's why it hurts.

Speaker 4 (15:25):
That's why it all of us because what I said,
we've seen something good come out of something because we
all like with the Tigers, no one hates the Tigers,
you know what I mean, And I mean they've had
hard eight six five years, So it hurts.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
It hurts me.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
The thing is so in a different frame. If he
was playing this year for Pernet, it would be a
different story, right. So it's like, because I was reading
about this before I jumped on tonight and there's lots
of back and forth and Benji like, I just think
one it's like the Azramm thing. There needs to be
like an actual statement, like I don't mean players going

(16:06):
on social media and everything else too, you know that
statement that Galvin has put together like well written, right,
but just just be honest because people can sense bullshit.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
I just think like he's a kid, right, he's nineteen
years in school last year, right, But well he's obviously
been I mean he's obviously his management and his parents
are because he's a kid, you know. But I feel
like he's being ostracized, you know, I mean, what's he
done wrong other than said I want to test my options.

(16:43):
Maybe I want to go play for a different club.
Like's that's so bad?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Like he's don't anything wrong. It's probably timing Nick, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
I know, it's just everyone well Dylan Brown round one.
You know, no one's criticizing that because of the money.
Yet that's usually the number one criticize. In fact, when
we're talking about this type of thing, isn't it funny?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Right?

Speaker 6 (17:04):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Maybe he wants to be involved in a so called
big club.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Maybe he wants to go to a strong club who's
the premiership contender.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Because he's everything, He's going to be everything that and more.
Early Early early view that's what I think is going
to be everything and more than what we think. He's
going to be in the right structure, in the right team,
in the right mental ship, and maybe he sees I
don't know, Isaac doesn't work with the ruses when you

(17:32):
look at the Ruses, but they've got everything there to
grow as a human and as a player, possibly surrounded
or can we I've got things like that, Bennett, They've
got things like that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
So maybe maybe he wants to go to one of
those things.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
It's never an issue when a club wants to let
a play, well, this is this is it, this is
it Now swings both ways.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
So every time the players, the club's move players on.
And Gus moved twelve in one year. Yeah how he
did it, I don't know. But Gus moved twelve players
in one year. Parent moved two big names on last year.
I'm talking about that. So when that happens, somehow the clubs,
the clubs get untouched. But when a player he wants

(18:13):
to move and you can't make a player stay, it's
always the players find it's the money. It's the money
that they want, you know. I suggest to you, like
it will go somewhere less than what you may well do. Yeah,
less than what are the Tigers are giving him? Because
five years five million it.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Was actually it was actually six years six million because
it included an upgrade for this season and next season
which would have total an extra MILLI.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yeah, so six million for six years for a nineteen
year older and probably there's some ratchet Claus. There's no
way in the world will signed for.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
For that.

Speaker 4 (18:51):
He's not gonna get any better.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
If that was me, if he genuinely wants to improve
his career, I'd be knocking on an iron clar his
door and begin.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
I'll come for final. To me, they look like the
club in decline. You got to think about the next
five years, right. It's not an issue where at the moment.
It's not an issue where he's going. It's an issue
that is what he wants to do. And why has
West lost another one?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
That is an issue? It's always West.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Do you know what I reckon? The smartest operator in
sport has struck here and everyone's missed it. Say just.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Media.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
She's done the deal already with media. You know how
he's done it. He's done it twice, right, twice in
the last three months. Firstly, he came out and said,
this kid's the best teenager I've ever seen. If you're
locked with Galvin and phel goold are saying that, or
if you're luck with Galvin's dad and phel good To
saying that, you're like wow. He followed that up, this
is publicly on TV foot and all that. He followed

(19:53):
that up by saying, this kid should not leave the
West Tigers. He needs to stay at that club. They
need to And again, if you're this kid's parents, you
are going wow. He's putting the kids well being first.
He cares about this kid's future. Maybe now that Galvin's
decided to leave, well feel good someone.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Who we know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
He's sneaky, you know what I mean. He's going to
be a bulldog. That's my prediction. Your prediction, they have
that predition. Pain they haven't.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
They haven't signed our half back at the moment, So
maybe we're going to have Burton's gonna have to win
number seven. I'd say that Lucky will go seven and
Burton will go six if he came to the club.
Now into how they play, because I don't think Burton
can play seven, but lucky he's a runner. He's not
a Yeah, they'll just do the new system of the

(20:48):
two running half, sort of the cronell Away, but.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
Then you look at us jumping forward. But apparently he's
he's going to play this year round. Any well, he's
been dropped. He's been dropped for this Funday game.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yes, he won't be much is here. You can't whatever
he does from now until whenever, we'll dictate his future.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
So Paul on Paul Kent. I don't know if you
guys see Paul Kent's blitz every afternoon, So this afternoon's
you know what, I'll play it for you guys live
over the microphone. Right, this is what Paul Kent said
just a matter of hours ago.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Well, I guess if Kenny has got some insight, he's.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
Already done, basically agreed to terms to Paramatter, that's ready
to go, not allowed to do it. So yeah, it'll
be denied, but it looks like fraud tense. He's going
to paramatter. The deal is all but done. It can't
be done legally, UNTI last November one, no one said
this paramatter thing.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
By the way, yeahs have been thrown.

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Up obviously is one of the teams. Okay, one of
the teams mainly was another bulldos for another.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
The understanding is.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
He is going to paramatter. They've agreed to terms. It's
all done. I don't know the details of the terms.
I can't be related to November one unless they give
him permission.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Sounds like lomax.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
I hope it's true.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
So that that's that's more manager driven than I want
to improve myself because we don't know.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
We don't know, Jason, Well, you know what I mean.
I mean, there's nothing in paramount that says you're going
to improve yourself.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
No.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
No, I mean in terms of if you're talking about yes,
I mean playing alongside it is a big, it is
a big, But he isn't playing alongside le right if
Nathan Cleariet Penrith, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, Well I don't get it.

Speaker 6 (22:43):
You know what, he's a paramount of fan let's not
forget that's right. But as a junior, yeah, I'll be.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
I'll be interested to see Worry lanes and when we
find out where he lanes, then things will become clearer.
It's either he wants to go to a big club
or Isaac Moses has helped him out, you know, showed
we know.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
One thing's for surely you're not going to knock back
a five million dollar gig with nowhere to go. There's
there's something, whether it's power of the Bulldogs or whatever,
something's been agreed on.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
How much money is he on Tigers now and next year?

Speaker 6 (23:18):
Three fifty?

Speaker 1 (23:18):
I think, okay, so what would the Tigers? If I
was the Tigers, I would not release until twenty twenty seven?
Why would you? Why would you release him?

Speaker 6 (23:25):
There's two there's two options, right, there's two ways to
look at it, and I think you have to remove
your emotion. A we keep him this year next year
and get the most out of him to help us
have the best season we can exactly. Or B we
cut him and we get we just get a healthy,
juicy transfer fee.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
It is we strengthen arrival, but when we shouldn't be
strengthening arrival. The question, I'd want to keep him.

Speaker 6 (23:50):
I want to keep him out, but it's it's not
really working out with Dylan Brown at the moment. You know,
it's what are you going to get out of him?

Speaker 1 (23:57):
As well? Three fifty are only losing three fifty in
the cap, Dylan Bread, you've got nine hundred sitting there. Yeah,
it's three fifty.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
It's a junior.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
If you wouldn't want to play juniors, that's what I'm
playing them. Anyway.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
If you want to be an ass, you could put
him in Cup for the next year and a half.
I would, But that will come back to buy you.
Why when he joins the new club doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I'll take the hit. I would.

Speaker 6 (24:17):
I we're talking too much, haven't.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
I just think because the way that I read it
was he released his statement or his dad or whatever
or the agent, and then what has followed is that
there's tensions in the club. Now if he goes to
another club and he leaves again, it's going to look
bad like one. He's nineteen to you know. If it
is that, And despite what we think about tigers or whatever,

(24:46):
That's why I've used the imagine if he was leaving
rabbit Oz under Bennett. Whatever he doesn't exp once will
dictate his future. He can be a flash in the pan.
But also he is nineteen, so I would. I hope
that he has the right people around him.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
It's it's a tiger's trade, right, It's a tiger's trade.
People are going to hate me who are listening to
this for saying this. It's a tiger's trade that we've
seen over the last ten years that anyone who gets
off the bus and stops there for a while becomes
Tiger's property. Right, And whether it's Tedesco or they're still

(25:24):
calling Moses a Tigers Jr.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
He's not right.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
Anyone who leaves that club is just public enemy number one.
Blah blah blah. It's like, once you go there, you're
never able to leave. We own you and your partner.
That's it, right. We're talking about a kid who's played
one season in first grade who's decided he wants to
change clubs. What's the big deal? Why do they feel
like he owes them something? Right?

Speaker 4 (25:48):
Well, they shouldn't right this moment. It shouldn't be a
big deal.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
But he's right.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
What he does in his next next couple of years
is going to be You can't take it for granted
that he's going to develop and be the top player
in the cop He's got to actually get developed. So
if he thinks that already, because we've all told him
he's going to be the best thing since sliced bread,
and he just believes it, and his parents already obviously
believe it, and Isaac obviously believes it. But if he

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believes it and he goes to a club which with
about the right structures in it, he will be a
flash in the panel. Like he said, so he's the
next movie. Is there a possibility that that's what he's
seeing at the moment? What do you mean not he's
in a club that doesn't have the right strake, and
I mean he's got great players around it. That's what

(26:35):
I'm the coach is yet to yet to be proven,
but got great players around him. There's a reason he
doesn't want to be there. I don't know why. Maybe
it's the playing group. Maybe he doesn't get along with
the boys.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
I don't know about getting along with the boys. But
in terms of coaching, I'll tell you that probably there's
a big chance I can't. Benji's on his peo plate.
There's no doubt he bench is on his old plates,
l what you want to call it. He's still learning.
He's going to take five to six years before become
a coach. What do I hear is Gerine is right
next to him. He's got the whistle in his mouth

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as well. He's seen because he's seen what a winning
team looks like. He's got good players around the chorus O,
yes so.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
But for them for those two to get together and
approach the coach and said we don't want him in
the team, that's untenable. Now he's been rejected by his
own teammates because guess what he's doing exactly what they've
done in the past.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Change clubs, change club Yeah, but he did enough to
win four comps. It doesn't matter. Still, he's stuck. He's
got four comps. He gave Penrith four comps, like he
stayed there. They want comps, and they gave him four
comps as well, saysert them when they're building. You know.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
But I mean, but okay, well, how come Brent Naden
wasn't treated the same way? Or Charlie staying as good
as little? I'm talking about Galvin?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
You talk about?

Speaker 6 (28:00):
How comes they weren't ostracized when they left Penrith?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
I just think the kid, what what? What's he done wrong? Nothing?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
But didn't we hear the same raps correctly? If I'm wrong.
Didn't we hear the same raps with Luke Brooks Next
best thing is going to be at nineteen? And everyone
was saying, this guy is going to be the next
to Andrew Johns and everything and how did that work out?
What he didn't?

Speaker 6 (28:23):
He hasn't played Origin yet. It was like the next
big thing? You never know, right, we never You never
know where the teenager. You know, the kid's got all
the tools, neverything, but you never know. It might amount
to nothing exactly. It might turn out to be the
next I mean remember JT at that age?

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (28:39):
Do that?

Speaker 4 (28:40):
Should?

Speaker 6 (28:40):
Do you want to with him? And I'm not And
I'm not knocking the Tiger. That's all I'm saying is,
let's put things into perspective here. You're talking about a
kid who's played one season and decided he wants to
change clubs. Why is everyone attacking him so much? Should
Why did the Tigers always feel like everyone owes them

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everything they should? They shouldn't have Everyone who leaves that
club is public getting in number one?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
But what makes the difference? I think they've put all
these pieces around him to make him.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
They still hate Ivan Cleary. Look at what he did
after he left.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Look, they put Loui, they got happy, they've got bullet Dock,
They've got this awesome team around him to help him.
And then I think that's.

Speaker 6 (29:26):
Wait a second. The team wasn't built for him currently.
I was signed two three years ago. Lou I was
signed almost two years ago. No one even heard of
Lachlan gathering two years ago. Don't say that the team
was built around him. What we're saying is that there's
enough pieces now. Yeah, but but but let's not don't

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try and sell that this whole team has been built
around him for him, as.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
He's got good mentors, like the guys that came over
from last year Panthersy Tigers. They've transitioned fine. Right, And
then you've got to guy that's been propped by gold
given a six million dollar contract and what Dad and Moses,
Dad thinks that he can get better. And also why
I announce it in April when he's supposed to leave
in November, Because the.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Reason was announced in April was because the club tried
to force a deal on it. The response that's on
the Tigers, not him, right, they had until November to
play this. They played it completely wrong. Completely. They tried
to rush it, they tried to bum rush it. It's
backfired hard. Rite shot himself in the foot. They had
until November to play this card, and they've tried to.

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They've tried to seal it up quickly and quietly, and
it's backfired.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Because it's the biggest deal for a junior in the
history of the club.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
They forced him, They're going to get him in. They
forced him into make it a call.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Oh well, it depends on how you read it. Like
I'm not, I'm probably I kind of agree with Aari
where it's like, well, you have this opportunity, who cares
if they wouldn't spring last year, have people around you
that can support you, and here, all of a sudden,
you think you're too good and you're going to go
somewhere else and then you're going to have a nice,
polished like. All I'm saying is what follows after this

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will dictate his future.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
Yeah, but that's we don't know what's happening. But there's
a reason he doesn't want to be there's a reason.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
I don't know what it is, and sure as hell,
it's not a money thing.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
I don't think it's a money thing. And we're sitting
here talking like this and very passionate because potentially he's
he could be something extremely extreme.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I think will.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
He could be. But if you can't handle a difficult
environment where you can't get along with the team, which
is how I read it, then he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Is what they're saying, is how I read it.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
That there was a lot of tensions in between and
he struggled to be coached by Benji. And if that's
the case, if he.

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Walks into it, if he walks into a team that
embraces him a completely different environment, I feel like.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
They probably were embracing him to a point anywhere.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Definitely. I think Benji he brought in Jade and Sullivan
last year, and he brought in another half, was a
caesar or someone. He brought these two halves right, and
during the off season Galvin brained it and put him
in ahead of those two. That's how much faith Benji
put on this kid, because you know what you're impressing in.
You know a lot of coaches don't do that. Look

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at look at can They've got Mitchell Woods Now he
hasn't even touched number seven. Yet in first grade. Whereas
Benji he gave this kid straight away and look how
we developed last year.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
Actually, beIN's talking to Benji Marshall himself.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Again.

Speaker 6 (32:33):
I forget who where I heard this was just yesterday.
Benji Marshall himself, when he broke in the first grade,
was given three games by Tim Sheens. The following season
he was given four games. Yea, he was bled over
two years before. Exactly you know, whereas Benji he's putting in. Yeah,
and absolutely Benji has given him his shot and the club,

(32:56):
the club has given him an opportunity to be where
he is now. But the club also forced his hand.
I said, we want a decision, and like, well, if
you forced me to make a call, that's it. I'm
not comfortable doing that now.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
So no, I don't want to be here from a recruitment.

Speaker 6 (33:10):
Don't force me to make you know, I can speak
from the experience from all the women who come out,
and they want they want answers from me. They want dates,
you know, they want you know, we want an answer.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
No, there's only time to think about it from a
recruitment perspective. So ben she gave him a shot. They
then put the money on the table, the biggest contractor
for a junior, then tried to put people around him,
invested in him from a recruitment as a business I owner.
And then he's gone. And once they've been like hey,

(33:39):
can you sign the contract which is actually fair commercially,
he's gone nut and then hidden behind his manager, Like
I just go the investment that you put in a
kid or like just think if you go really granular.
I don't blame them for trying to put it on him. Also,
again it just I think I look at things differently.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
But no, no, no, you're right, you're right.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Yeah, I don't think he's hiding behind his manager. I
think he's managing his parents are dictating every move. Yeah,
I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Also, like I think it's you know, and why.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
Tenure, why would he knock that deal back? Why would
he knock that deal that's five million bucks for.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Five ky knows Kenty just said why?

Speaker 6 (34:20):
But because I don't think he's going to get more
somewhere else, right, Like what's the reason, what's the reason
they can't hack it? Maybe maybe he's just unhappy there, Yeah,
you know what I mean, Like everyone's always looking for it.
Maybe he's just not happy there.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
That's what I think, Nick.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
I'm telling you, if I give someone a six million
dollar contract and they've spread romas and then got their
parents and their manager involved, and then I had to respond,
I'd be pretty happy he not.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
His manager's there for that very reason to be his manager.
And he's nineteen years old, so his parents are going
to be involved in whatever decision he makes. Imagine if
it's your son at nineteen years old, you're not going
to be involved with his manager at that point with
a big decision like that.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
But you know yourself, when you're best in a team member,
you're just staff member, are artie or whoever? And the
time like printing, like marketing, everything like it's like and
then to turn around and say I was going to
leave this till later in the season, No, you won't, mate,
You've got another deal somewhere else, and that next place
you go to, you better like comply because it's just

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going to look like you're a problem.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
I don't. I don't think it's I think it's crazy
to think that he doesn't have a deal somewhere else.
You have to Yeah, you wouldn't. I mean, don't forget
like see, I look at it another way as well. Right,
I'm going to give the kid credit because by saying
I want to test my value in November one, if
he has a season from hell, his market value goes

(35:49):
in the toilet six months from now. That's a risk. Again,
he might already have a deal, so it won't matter.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
That's why the Tigers employ. But that's a risk too, right,
That's why I wouldn't play.

Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah, that's a that's a big risk for him. If
he goes I want to test myself and then he
has a horrible season. People look at it, Yeah, I'm
sure the way newcasts are looking at Dylan Brown now, right,
that's the risk you run as well. So it takes
some jatz crackers to do that too.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Someone.

Speaker 6 (36:15):
Unless there's an under the table deal already, what he
does now.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Will lead to will be a testament to his credibility.
If he's saying that he's staying till November and he doesn't,
or if he stays till November and causes ship, then
that's the type of person.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I don't think.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I think hard causing ship. I really find find that hard.
I think things happened around him too, and I think
some people are hanging on to his coat tails because
maybe they find an opportunity here as a young man,

(36:51):
there's an opportunity that there's a lot of people that
can make some money out of his long career.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
He's not making a decision and.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
At nineteen, the kid just wants to play footing now.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Again against a six million dollar contract.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
To do that, well, I would have taken it. I
won't alight to you. I would have taken it. And
he hurts him leaving because of everything we've said that.
You know, we've we've seen his team struggle and been
bashed up from pillar to the past, and we're seeing
some green shoots and unfortunately another one which we think
potentially could be a great he's going. But look, I
agree with Nick as well. No one's actually done the

(37:30):
wrong wrong here. No one's actually lucky, hasn't done wrong.
He's moving on or he's testing his market.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Oh will too. You know, you're an interesting thing.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
If he keeps on planing like he's playing right this moment,
he actually did test the market. Someone will jump one
point six. I'll tell you now, you're going to be
that much, someone will jump. And the reason reason being
is if you have it, if you want someone, because
look how much Dylan got. Look how much Dylan Brown got.
If you want someone and and you spend two hundred

(38:01):
over and you haven't got it, what to make it?

Speaker 6 (38:04):
To make?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
What's what's that costume?

Speaker 4 (38:07):
If you haven't got him, If you need him and
you haven't got him, So for argument's sake, put LOCKI
into Newcastle, take Dylan away. Okay, guess what what's the
bet he can put Pongo on outside shoulders? Dylan can't, probably,
but he's been doing it now under the stress. Be
interesting to see how this plays out. But yeah, I

(38:29):
can't wait. The signing will tell us everything. The signing
will tell us everything. Whatever he's going, he's only going
to a big, big club where he can supposedly develop
and all the rest or he's going to paramatter and
obviously that's a that's amazes signing and looks it's It's.

Speaker 6 (38:46):
Okay, there's nothing wrong as long as we watch him play. Okay,
So here's one question, one last question I got for you,
and then let's move on. Right, Is he going to
be a Tiger at the end of the season or
is he going to be somewhere else accountable?

Speaker 1 (39:01):
He went, he will be? Who will be? Yeah, Shane Richardson,
he's a very very smart operator. He won't let him go.

Speaker 6 (39:09):
Well, he said he won't, said he won't, he'd be
stupid to it.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I agree, No, I agree.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
But if they're not playing him in first because three
hundred and fifty thousand, it's not even that, it's not,
he will unstabilized.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
The place doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. And Richie's even.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
There, he will do You remember when Mitch Moses wanted
out of there, he started kicking stones And.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
You know what, if I was always Tigers and Isaac
Moses brought a play robots, I see you later, I
wouldn't do any more deals with that guy because he
has screwed the Tigers hard every time.

Speaker 6 (39:43):
Everyone everyone criticizes Isaac Moses, and I'm not a fan
of how he operates, but he gets the money, he
gets the best deals for his clients.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
He does, but not many clubs are going to want
to deal with it.

Speaker 6 (39:54):
He's the best, and he's not going to have many
He's got half the coaches under his belt exactly, but
he he gets the best deals for that's he's the best.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
One mainly might be a good fit because he doesn't
he's got a seat bowls. I'll give you a high
price deal for Brooks for about all right.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
Let's let's let's move on. Let's move on to another
controversial Everyone saw what happened between when the Broncos played
the Roosters. Spencer Lean, you and Jonathan Thurston tan, I
want to start with.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
You, like one, don't come up to a great while
he's doing his job because you're butt hurt about something
that happened twelve months ago.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I think, I think j yeah.

Speaker 6 (40:43):
J Well however, was like, well, from what I understand,
he got substituted off the field and when he was
walking off actually the game, he gave he gave j
T your mouthful on his way off, and then j
T a person him to say what's your problem?

Speaker 2 (40:56):
He did it first yeah yeah, and then JT hung
around for an hour to wait to talk, and he
didn't come out but to desk. It was released to
Desko and the manager came out, but sorry, who are
you like? I know who he is. And also don't
do that too. There is a time and place to
do that if he has an issue with something that
was said twelve months ago. And really the opinion was

(41:20):
I don't feel like the band was fair and it
should have been extended from And you know, JT played
in an earlier time where he was villified and racially
discriminated against, so probably hit harder with him. It shows
to me that old mate isn't repentant as well. By
the way, and I was there at the Dame because

(41:40):
we saw it, like, but we didn't understand what was happening.
You're playing, You're you're doing that in front of children
who are waiting to get an autograph. Pick your time, mate, Like,
that's just.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
I think it was stupid and wrong the way he
did it. But I understand I understand why he was
piece of the JT though, because because let's because let's
call a space spade, can I say that? Right?

Speaker 1 (42:02):
He?

Speaker 6 (42:03):
You know, then you called Ezra Man a monkey and
he got an eight week band and JT said he
should have got a twelve week band. But the same
guy who got called a monkey got high on coke,
drove an under the car without a license, smashed someone,
put someone in hospital, and he got a nine week
Man one week more and he's saying, well, if you're
if you're so criticizing me so bad, how come you

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ever said anything about him, which he didn't. JT didn't say.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
He was never asked about that.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Well, I mean that's that's a very semantic split.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
But also don't do that in front of children.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
No, I agree.

Speaker 6 (42:40):
The way he did it was was stupid. And the
fact that he went and put an Instagram post. I mean, yeah,
this generation of football players, like spent the Spencer the news,
they're earning so much money twelve years from now, you
know what they're going to be saying, would you like
fries with that?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (42:55):
That's how That's how. That's how idiotic these players are.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
You can there's a respect thing here. That's that's all
I'm saying. I don't mind if he went and pulled
him aside afterwards or I don't know, maybe two weeks
after he made the comment, not twelve months down the
track to someone that's a commentator, because the the and
and look, if we're calling anyone's character into question, like
things that JT did, things as a man did whatever, regardless,

(43:21):
like everyone's got you know, a shit period of their
life or whatever it might be. If you're a footy player,
it's that's not how you do it. So you're trying
to regain some sense of notoriety, or he was trying
to make himself look good, but the way that he
did it has called his character into question. That's all.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Everybody knows how I feel about the Spencer thing and
these Roman thing. It's something long seeded, something that goes
back a long, long long time. It goes back to
a certain Grand Final and Spencer, for some reason, he's
got Spencer's got people living in his head rent free.

(44:04):
So I suggest Spencer should sort of let it go.
I think, what would you do it on live TV
in front of everyone? Because, as you he said, he
could have done it, he could have done it better.
I think I think Spencer's got the issue. J two
went on a few pods, two or three pods continuously
and said that he did.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
He said, repeatedly, as they should have got twelve weeks.
You know, so he called someone a monkey, fair enough, right,
not nice? But with what as your man did. JT
didn't criticize that at all at all. And you know
what else makes me laugh about this whole situation. The
NRL's response is that we're not going to get involved
unless one of the parties. Will you get involved with

(44:46):
everything else? His sticulates literally everything else? Right, Yeah, So
if that's not putting the game into disripute, what Spencer
Lenu did, then what is I was on life television.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
All I would say is on that night, if you're
a nine year old and you saw that happened, would
you remember exactly?

Speaker 1 (45:04):
That's my point, that's my point to be.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
You know, like heroes in kids eyes, there's a time
and place to do it.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
And the NRL decided that there's no case to answer,
but we don't get involved because no one's complained.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
So you you just put a different spin on.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
It for me, but it doesn't go to show how
much it's affected Lent you now think about it. He
said a comment of Monkey, and he got accused of
being an absolute race.

Speaker 6 (45:32):
He's got the worst band in the game, and in
his head he.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Has been absolutely he's been smashed and it's in his
head and then it just spucked up again and honestly,
he just it just burned him and he just reacted.
He shouldn't have reacted the way that was wrong, but
you can tell how much it's affected him that whole monkey.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I'll tell you what else as well, Reese has got
his number, and yeah, he's got his number and did
what res does again to him as you do, to
put him off the game.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
And that's how it all it was going on. Apparently
during the game.

Speaker 4 (46:10):
In the game, he was just given it to him.
And like I said, and that's why when he came off,
he got he got upset.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Look, he should make just to the Nottra whatever to
Jonathan at least to the public for what he did.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
He gave us, He gave us a different angle with
the kids. I never even thought about the kids, and
she had her both kids there. Yeah, so look I
never thought of that. I went straight to Hesra Man
or Jonathan Thurston. Right, they're both right and they're both wrong.
But if Spencer can just park it or just get

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it out of his head and just you know, you.

Speaker 6 (46:48):
Know what I thought was even worse. Trent Robinson defending
Pennsylvania in the press conference.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
That's his job. I mean, that's his job. He did it,
that's his job. Imagine how the dressing room had been.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Yeah, but he doesn't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
So it's a tough situation.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Yeah, I don't even know if if if Robbo knows
the whole story from from the Grand Fine, I don't
even know if he knows that, you know, he just
sees what's happening in front of him. I don't think
Spencer will sit down and tell him the whole story.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Look look at the Broncos. Do you think they've gone
down hard on Israel. It's like they've supported him. I'll
try to get into places of games and look at
he's done, which is my far worse. You can't criticize, well,
you got to support is You've got to support your players, unfortunately.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
But anyway, look, it's it's it's I hope. I hope
it's parked now. I hope, I hope.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
I don't think it will be that.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
I have Spencer, I have Spencer Parks. You don't need
you don't need the you don't need all this stuff.
And you know what, I think Jonathan was just calling
the crossfire, that's all. I don't think. I don't think
it was planned or done. I just think he just
caught it up in the crossway. Because we can start
the trial and start all all these indigenous stars, but

(48:03):
commentators or players who said something about him calling Israel monkey.
So he was just Jonathan was just calling a cross
for unfortunately, and it is unfortunately because a's T said,
you know, the guys are acummentator, legend and so forth.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
But you just said now that he went on three
pods and said the same thing he did he did. No,
I agree, you know what you know, he wasn't just
a little stated three times. Do you know how I
feel about this. I'm trying to hold I'm trying to
hold my tongue. I'll try to hold my tongue. You
all know very clear.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
But I don't think should should should play in our
role for the next two years.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
But also, and my kids weren't close enough to that.
It was the first time I brought my kids to Suncle.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
The other thing too. I mean, I'm sure we'll talk
about it. I roll the game itself. But the fact
that not just the fact, because a lot of the
comments are talking about, like, you know JT and stuff.
Have some respect. Mate, you're twenty four. Did you do
what JTT did and then also go on to set
up a company to support indigenous you like who are

(49:13):
you and who are you to do that in front
of people and all those because he did it. We
were sitting right near there, all the kids were waiting
because it was kind of near the entry for our
horse Buck. All the kids were there and forever all
those kids think of it that way. That might be
their first experience or whatever. Just it's just gross behavior.

(49:34):
And it's like, well, this is what we go back
to with everything, Ezra. Everything. If it is your job
to represent your company or your club or whatever in
every way, if you can't hold it together, don't be
there and don't do it in public. Essentially, do it
somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Hopefully he's a robot spoken to him and he can
hold his stuff together again. And like I said, there's
people living in his head. Rent Free at Israel be it,
but Reese be whoever there's there's there's people living in
his head. So I hope Spencer just gets it out
of his hand because it wasn't need But Reese has

(50:11):
got his number, his number. Uh, you just mentioned Buck.
Let me tell you about buck Tea. Last time I
went to sign corp okay can we got beaten so badly?
I was sick and title of seeing Buck running around
the field. Let me tell you, I think Buck had
enough from running around. You didn't want to do it anymore.

(50:32):
I didn't want to do any more laps. So yeah,
I can't want to see buck again. I want to
see bucket again, I said.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
The boys were like, is that a real horse? I'm like,
that's bucking. Then I was like, look different.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
Well, you got to change the buck occasionally. Remember the
Twelfth Man, Gary Buck and Arra. He had a buck
and beatty last week and it was bucking grading in today.
All right, let's let's move on to the week it
that was. We're gonna do something a little bit different
this week. We're each going to review two games. Right, yeah,
So George wanting to kick us off with the Dolphins

(51:12):
and the soul Takers.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
The soul Taker there's no more, no more souls being taken.
Unfortunately in the you.

Speaker 6 (51:19):
Know, Nicolas funny Parlet equal first at the top of
the table to flip it up, so down must win
good company.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
You know, when your game plan is to bash the
living daylight out of teams and you can't do that anymore,
the game plan falls apart, really, really, really quickly in Igola.
I'm stunned. I'm stun what I'm seeing because I thought
by now maybe maybe not back to their their best,

(51:50):
but some improvement. But I think they're going back.

Speaker 6 (51:53):
It's such a different lineup though it is. It looks
so different it is.

Speaker 4 (51:58):
Besides besides Varady in the back line, I think they're
all having very poor season. And the forwards they're no better.
They're no better. There's there's a massive freeway down the middle.
Which which are the Dolphins took? And Isaac what's his name?

(52:19):
No Isaac. He's forgotten how to tackle, he's learn how
to mark up. He's he's a turnstyle out there. And
dylanles is no better. He must be injured. There's no
doubt in my mind Dylan Dylan injured because I haven't
seen him play like that ever. And the people like

(52:41):
Casey Casey McLean the same. But not only the top
line players have left. They've taken the next generation.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
So so.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
We had the Dolphins had Isaac. Now he was the
understudy for for Nathan and for the Geri. But they
took him and they kept not They took the top players.
They took all the all the next generation. So we're
going back. We're going down to kids like MacLean, which
to me, he looks like this, he's one year away

(53:13):
from being a regular the first grade, first grader. I
understand why they they reluctantly played Blaze. I don't think
Blaze is ready to be a panther, is he? No?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
They look look.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
I think it's just a matter of time for Blaze
because we saw what he did last year. But he's
like I understand now why they held him back, and
the forwards are like Marshmallow, I mean very very very disappointed.
And I really don't see how they're going to get
out of this. I really really don't. And there's a
reason I played the song at the start because I

(53:49):
actually I'm going to call it like I don't think
eight And if they do make the eighth, it will
be a miracle. Unless they can go out tomorrow and
turn them round.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
I can't see it happening because I mean players like
Luke Summers, I mean, I've never heard of it, Yeah,
and not on me that like, if you haven't heard
of it, it comes to first grade and locks it out.
But he looks like he's Reggie Player. So when is
when is when as Penrith graded a player. He looks
like he's a Reggie player. That's what we were saying

(54:23):
last week, George. They just can't turn him out quick,
and they can't turn him out quick. It's the production
line just isn't faster than Sunny.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
That guy Sunny they had Hooker.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
I think he's injured. Oh okay, I think he's injured.
But who would think that Jerome and the Fish were
the two key missing.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I don't, I don't.

Speaker 6 (54:43):
I think for me, I think it was like the
last two plugs holding the bucket exactly. It's everything over
the last three years, the whole first grade team's been
ripped out of that.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
They were scraping through last year poorly the whole year,
and then they just held on until the end of
I think it.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
Was just like the last piece of the puzzle type
because they've lost so much talent.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
It's coming.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Actually, text it's heartbreaking. It really is because of the decline,
not because not because of the play, because they're playing bad.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Or just because of the rapid decline. Heartbreaking. I like
watching good rugby league.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
Sympathy on the on the flip, I didn't expect the
Dolphins could play this well. I did not expect. I
didn't think Daniel SIEFIEDI could play this well. I understanding.
I think I thought we were just waiting for it
the Dolphins. Yeah, look, I was hoping. T I can

(55:48):
see Max Plaith covering Moruande this ship for sure. If
it keeps on playing like he's gonna have a Morne
on his back, there's no doubt in my mind. How
good it to see the hammer in the open, open air,
I said it againantastic. You either give him early ball
and let him do his magic, or you put him
on shoulders and guess what they're doing. Both Isakahwa is

(56:11):
doing both. Herbie Herbie Farm's worth. He keeps on impressing me.
He just keeps on getting better and better and better.
Someone who kills me, Jacob Avarilla. It hurts used to
being blue and white, you know what I mean? And
your man isaa back in the form, okay, And how.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Good like I think, because I know Bennett was. You know,
we talked about this last year, was going back to
the Rabbits. But it's so nice to see the last
two weeks like Dolphins win like it's like, not not
like that, because obviously Bennet's very respected, but it's also
everyone was kind of like, our Dolphins aren't going to
do that well, and look, you know we're in the
round seven now. But it was it's nice to see

(56:55):
like that. They don't need you know, a name to
do well, you know what I mean. I love the
game personally, No, it was.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
It was in terms of the Fins up. For me,
I love seeing the Fins do well. Thirty to twelve
I don't think indicated the game. I think the Finns
should have scored a few more than a few more
than that. That's how far away I think Penriff were.
I'm dying to see Penriff this week again because I'm
dying to see them back on the horse. And I'm

(57:27):
dying to see the Fins again because I'm enjoying watching
them playing Nicola. Very disappointing Penriff, and I think they're
going to continue to be disappointing.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
And Fins are three to two one. It's about the Hammer.
He got the three points, Isaiah Ktaa got the two
points a half back, and Avarillo got the one point.
But just with Penrith, a lot of passing man. They
kept throwing the ball around, they kept losing it.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
I don't know why, the the mistake, the mistakes. They
can't get out of the the bad ball like they
used to.

Speaker 7 (58:06):
It was.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
It was one of the one of their highlights, how
quick they could get how good they can get out
of their ball. And they're kicking on the halfway so
all of a sudden they're attacking and the other team's
coming off their line. They don't do these things anymore. Mistakes.
My god, I've never seen so many mistakes. Don't worry
about them any team, you know. I mean, it's it's heartbreaking.
They're a mess. There are shambles. They got free way

(58:29):
straight through the middle. They got outside the back. Outside
backs can't read read a play.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I can't.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
I can't start.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
I don't know where to start with.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
I know where to start with. But the Finns made
defended will at Ran. Well there they're good. They're great.
Love's watching.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
Dragons returned to the winner circle. We did yes, eight
points to six, then win over the Gold Coast talks through.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
It's a great win. Times were pretty disappointing and after
coming from a lost expected a lot better. You know,
I thought they'd come out firing, but yeah, they were terrible.
The only good light shining light in that was David Fafeda.
I thought he was outstanding in that game. He was
really really good. No Tuno, so he took it upon
himself to sort of get him forward. But the Dragons, yeah,

(59:16):
they could only play what's in front of him, and
they played Titans who were poor. There was one big
turning point I found in that game where one of
the Titans players didn't play the ball properly and they
got penalized for it. And St. George scored three tries
after that to get the twenty four to four half
time and from there it was all over. But at
the end of the day, I thought this was just
good coaching from Flano, because I think Dezzy expected King

(59:40):
Guthe to get a lot of the ball, but they
were playing away from King Guthe. They're giving a lot
of ball to Flannagan and Ilios and they did a
great job going around him, and it played dividends and
it was it was look for that plan to work
for Flanno, he needed his halms to fire and and

(01:00:00):
Elias took it on, which was really good. Vour Holmes
had one of his best games for the Dragon so far.
That little side step he did through was amazing. That
guy's got He runs like a gazelle. He just looks
so good when he runs. But the end of the day,
Saint George played really well. Shout out to Dillanegan the
young kid. He played seventy nine minutes and he was outstanding.

(01:00:21):
This guy is our future. Top the tackle count and
ran over one hundred moders, scored a try. This is
his second NRL game. Kid from Geryngong. There's three of them,
There's him, Hami, Stewart and Couchman, so they're our future.
Great win by the Dragons, lu I think they'd for
a lost now because they've had a win. But look
another thing I wanted to point out last this time
last year, right round six, we'd scored one hundred and

(01:00:43):
six points and everyone said this year we're going to
struggle to get points because we're losing Lomax and Hunt. Well,
we've played one game lesson. We've scored one hundred and
eighteen points. Five games, one hundred and eighteen and that's
a credit to Gatho and the Spine that he's put
in cook and the halves, so you know he's doing
all right. He's doing all right. But it's a credits

(01:01:04):
planner for getting more points for the dragons and good signs,
good signs, anything else you guys want to add.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Just just off the bench. That's his that's his spot. Yeah,
comes along with energy when the when the heats off.
He's a big body. He's he runs lines at the edges.
And that's the one that's the guy who gave what
homes the ball.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:01:32):
So he's a good thing. And you gave praise Julius.
Elius might be the best reggie in the world's first grader.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
I hope.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Yeah, we'll give him more time.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
It's more time. But at the moment, he might. When
he goes back to the reggies, he's the best rege
in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
He's not the first grade. Quiet and we had the
money man back. I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
When they're winning the that's not when you're losing. Twenty eight, Nils,
I was waiting. You scored the first try, nothing scored
that second try. The money came out on the beach.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
Did you see on the bench, still on the bench,
I don't understand. I'll get to it later when we
talked to para game, but we were losing sixty four
nil at a Castes to try and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yes, what is that?

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
What was that?

Speaker 6 (01:02:17):
That's why I can't stand it?

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
What do you do?

Speaker 6 (01:02:20):
He was celebrating, love that you're losing sixty eight Neil,
what are you celebrating? Gives three to two?

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
One was dill An. Egan got the three points, Valentine
Holan's got the two, and I had to give David
for Foda. He was outstanding for the Titans. He got
the one point.

Speaker 6 (01:02:35):
And I'm going to turn to North of the Border
and talk us through Broncos Roosters. Obviously the Brewsters, the Brewsters,
the Roosters, the punky Brewsters went away from home twenty
six points to sixteen over the Bronx tenure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
You were there, what happened?

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
So Reese's and Broncos games live are probably the most
aggressive games to watch at some court, like just even
in the crowd, like it's almost like a rich and
that's uncle. The fact that the russ had like three
set restarts in the first twenty minutes and Broncos had none,

(01:03:13):
Like you're telling me that the Ruce has played perfectly.
I aually spoke to my RSS Meat supported meet the
other day and he's like, the Russ didn't win, the
Broncos just lost like that. I feel like the Broncos
could have won, but they were flat. I feel like
the refing was really unfair and there was so many
ridiculous calls when stagged. I think I was talking to

(01:03:34):
the unique that Stags basically, you know, almost got crushed
and then he got sent off like it was the
most ridiculous how But anyway, I'm not going to go
into a kids. We'll talk for another hour.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Problem we're having. Wek out every game.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Yeah, the refing, so you're you're telling me that the
Russ paid it, played a perfect game, their rock everything
was perfect, so they so Broncos didn't get any none,
no set restarts, and I just think Broncos are flat.
But Russ shouldn't have won, but they I don't feel
like they won. Broncs just lost, and in true form

(01:04:12):
as we spoke about before, it just ended with a
Rooster's player just doing another ship thing. That just summed
up the whole whole game for me.

Speaker 6 (01:04:24):
Really hold a new thing again like going back to it,
like if you watch, if you haven't yet watched the
press conference with Trent Robinson, if that's not enabling, I
don't know what it is. Like he's just flat out
the fen. He's done nothing wrong. You know, you blokes
the media creating all this. Dude, what planet are you on?

(01:04:45):
But well, how about you pull them into line and
say that's not how our club wants to be represented
on live television. You know what I mean, that's not us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
The boys are pretty upset and I was like, look,
it's fine, Like it's six round, like I won. My
friends were like texting me and they're like, no, it's
I was like, if I'm not mad, you can't be mad.
I did possibly suggest that the ref gets center off
at some point? Yeah, no, I just I don't know.
The Broncos are flat. I feel like the ref the

(01:05:19):
calls were terrible and they shouldn't have won.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Is it a bit of a concern.

Speaker 6 (01:05:27):
No, No, I'm laughing. Sorry, I'm laughing because you said
the ref getting set off. I'm laughing because, as Artie
would know, in soccer as a player, if you get
three an accumulation of three year the cards she gets
you get suspended for a match, right, Well, we're in
Napoli's last game. The coach was suspended because you had
three year there's a coach accumulates three Like, yeah, that's

(01:05:50):
why I was laughing because I thought about that when
you Yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
As a Bronco supporter, you would be concerned a little
bit with you feel like they're a bit sort of
over now with the Broncos. I go in thinking they've
won already without trying, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Know what I mean said, it's a couple of rounds ago.
And the thing is also get rid of alters Stags
and while she pull your head in and read one
of the books behind me that from the eighties and
how to play rugby League and stop acting like you
guys are awesome that you've been doing for the last
two years getting and grind and stop getting involved in
and stuff like for me, you know, everyone loves whal

(01:06:28):
she and Stags, and I believe that when they're on,
they're on. But also there's an element of even with
this set, like my kids love Stags. I'm like, what
has he done? Like, yes, he's a good player everything else,
but don't forget he replaced Mariner, and I loved Mariner.
I thought he was great. They didn't even have him
on the bench. This this, this go and also let's

(01:06:49):
look at other players that you know, like Arthurs, what
about Willison? Like Willison will end up where Sailor is
if they don't utilize him. So sorry, it's a first
short answer is yes, I do. I see, I can
see them more critically, I think origin it's a different
story Broncos. Yeah, they just need to sort it out

(01:07:11):
all over the place.

Speaker 4 (01:07:12):
Look, it's good, it's good. It's still they're still developing.
It's early, and the important thing is that they've got
all the equipment. All they need is just to develop this.
This is this is good that it happens. Now, Yeah,
it's good that happened. They've got the right coach. We've
got the right coach and they've got they've got all
the equipment they need. So just amount of times he's

(01:07:34):
got the point three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Points went to the guy that's absolutely killing it this
year and Teddy Tedesco. He had outstanding another outstanding game.
And they're not winning every game, but he's the best
player in the Roosters so far. Angus Crichton, Sorry, Angus
Crichton got the two points and painhassles the best of
the Bronx and you going.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
Back to that, it's been a near situation in the
locker rooms after the game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
He had two j T kocked me up.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
No, no, yeah, I was just going to say you
had two JT's talking to Trent Robinson, James, Tedsco Jonathan
Thursday night.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:08:15):
So Super Saturday kicked off with the Sharks a tight one,
twenty four points to eighteen over the many Seagulls.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
So that's what happened here. I don't know about you guys,
but I found this a bit of a bludge Sharks.
You said the Sharks did enough to win, all right.
It was eight nil at halftime, two tries unconverted by
Nico Will Kennedy gets bagged by the Shark sports but
he was outstanding. He was He scored some he scored

(01:08:44):
a really good try. It got this allowed five minutes.
We scored another one which was allowed. Both of them
off great work. But Sharks went in eight nil and
then fourteen nil, and then after that it was sort
of all over. I was just sort of sort of cruising.
I'll just I think Sharks are doing something different this year.
They're just winning games and not going out to bash
the bottom eight sides. If they know they're going to win,
they're just going to play through the through the game

(01:09:06):
as they can and not risk an injury and get
the two points and get out of there. What's that?
I think so, and then put something up up their
sleeve so when they get to the finals, that's when
they can explain. That's what I'm hoping. It was one
of Nicko Hines's best game so so far. I feel
he ran, he broke a few lines and did well.
It was good to see Hazelton back and Talakai oh

(01:09:26):
good when they came back. They missed them, that's sure.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
Maybe Heines should do a few lines everywhere he should.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
Maybe, Yeah, look mainly came back. At one stage, I
scored some tries and we thought, oh, here we go,
we might get a game out of it. But then
there was nothing there. Des he just sorry. DC just
didn't look interested. To be honest, I had a friend
of mine watching the game and he goes, What's what's
happening with d C. He just doesn't look like he's
in the game. I just had a bad head. I

(01:09:54):
don't know what it was, but yeah, he was a
bit off. They found their only good player was all
the khas he was standing and maybe the fullback Leo
keeps impressing, but yeah, a bit of a bludger. Cronella
had it all to win the dominant from the start
to finish.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
Teller Guy came on, changed the game. Little Blake played
with a stranger.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Yeah, he came off. He had a bit of a
groin injury, but apparently he's okay. He's playing this week.
But bludger pleasure, Bludger three.

Speaker 6 (01:10:25):
Two one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Will Kennedie got the three, Nico Hines got the two,
and Alaka at one point for Manly. That's me.

Speaker 6 (01:10:34):
Let's go north to the border again. The Cowboy's got
a good win twenty four points to six, and the
rabbits tell us what happened here?

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Yeah, that was so good. I'm trying to remember what
you said last week, George. You were talking about Jackson
Pergue like, he's like you always ringing wet it's so good.
And then I think at the end of the game,
I interviewed him and he's like, oh, it's so sweet.
He's like I'm not the most talented, like you know,
I don't, and he's so and I thought of you, I.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Was like, that is sweetie, so magic. He's nineteen as well.
He's nineteen as well, like lucky.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Yeah, yeah, and he just oh such a sweet kid.
But no, it was awesome. I I like, I quite
like the game, Like it was fairly even, Like I think,
you know that game will talk about next sor but
when they're games that all blowouts on one side, I
want one of the games you want to talk about.
It just gets a little bit boring, you know, Like

(01:11:30):
I like a like what you said before, George, Like
I like a really decent game. So the guy was
awesome obviously, perdu you know, Gi a little giant. Agree
played really well and he's still top of Daily M
which is awesome. But but yeah, he's so sweet and

(01:11:50):
he's going to be such a great player of he
is surrounded by the right people. It was just a
good It was a good, decent game. Can I think
all collectively, all four of us would have enjoyed it
because they're not really you know, they're not our number
one teams.

Speaker 6 (01:12:07):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
What did you think of the hip job?

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Yeah, because What ended up happening with that was.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
That did they they said it was a hip job.
The whole question if it's a hip drop, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Think it was?

Speaker 6 (01:12:20):
It was they felt his leg I didn't get anything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
From the issue.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
Is that that You can say that was the turning
point too, because they got the ball and they scored
a try. They scored three tries two tries after that.
I mean that was through the mistakes of the Bunnies,
but that was the moment that the game swung. So
I personally thought it was a refereeing error which affected

(01:12:46):
him emotionally. The Jason Tamal maybe not the person that
he was four or five, six years ago, But let
me tell you, doesn't he make some meet it?

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Doesn't he run that boll so hard? This uh this
pack and I he got it, got taught a lesson,
went back to the bench, and I think, I know
something clicked. And he looks or he looks so much
like a Morane jersey boy. Again, there's another kid. He's

(01:13:17):
gonna he's gonna be babe with the moround again.

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
Yeah, you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
At one stage I thought that the Bunnies were going
to win and win well, but full credit to the
full credit to the Cows. I think it's run now
in a row and they just keep on chugging, chugging along.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
You know what. It was hot.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
I think they're in a perth and I know it
suited more of the Cowboys, but I think these players
must be over. It must be over. How long? How
long more can they play there?

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
I am as long I don't know if I said
it to you guys over the weekend. As long as
two out of four Queensland teams win each week, I'm
sweet the ones they are, I'm fine. But it is
nice because of it, Like all, I think Dolphins and
Cowboys had a bit of a rough kind of start,
but and I always love like, yeah, definitely Cowboys like

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you know, to watch them, but also to watch like
obviously Jie Gray and how that that team's developing. But
that was a nice It was a really good game.

Speaker 4 (01:14:25):
Actually, Gray, I'm going to be very interesting interested because
Bennett said that in four weeks he's going to put
Latroll back to fullback. I don't see it, but that's
what he said he's going to do, which will surprise
surprise me. So anyway, I actually didn't I did was

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It wasn't. It wasn't one of the highlight games. I
just went through the motions. But like I said, the cows,
you keep on chugging along. Points pretty three points went
to Jason Tomlalo. He got two hundred plus meders. He
had a really good game, back to his best. The
trill Mitchell got the two points, one line break, two
line break assist, two tries. This was pretty busy, pretty

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active and potential rookie of the year. Jackson Pardue is
his first year. I told you the twelve year old kid.
He looks like a young kid, but he scored two
great tries and yeah he could.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
Be potentially Rookie of the year. Is Joe Gray rookie
of the year this year? Like is he a rookie
this year? He played he played last so Jackson could potentially.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
Maybe yeah, I think he played two I think contract yeah, yeah,
I think he played two games last year.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Issues his rookie if he keeps for playing the way
he is And there's a try who.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Scored he just went straight the middle three. I mean
it says more about Souths than.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Geez. But his defense, like he takes people down, big guys, right,
he's not scared technically.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
The thing is when you see that, when you see
these younger kids score and you'll look at it now.
But I saw in that Cowboys game like almost like
the look of disbelief.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
Yeah yeah, I've still got that. Yeah, yeah, lovely. It's
good that. It's good to see.

Speaker 6 (01:16:11):
So before we get to the next game, I was
just thinking that if you had asked me in the
preseason after six rounds, Paramatta is on the same points
as Penrith would have gone, yeah, yeah, yeah, funny how
things concern so up in Darwin, where Paramatta have a
wonderful record of losing every game they play. Uh, it's

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the last, it's the last camera, fifty points to twelve
over the eels. What's there to say? Cambra looked great.
They were energetic, they were hungry, they were first of
the ball. Paramatta flat one on one defense was terrible.
Defense as a whole was terrible. Tam was trying to
keep me positive for this one, but it was a

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sink and Chip.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
I think to go there next time, obviously, Yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
So.

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
It was as a parafan, it was, it was woeful,
it was it was embarrassing to watch.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
It was disappointed after a good performance a week before
and then they dished up this, which was the disappointing thing.
I mean, Hudson Young was extremely.

Speaker 6 (01:17:14):
The one on one miss tackles. They're very, very very
simple one.

Speaker 4 (01:17:20):
Skills the course skills that last week. No, they impressed
last week, which which I thought, just give it a go.
They didn't give it a go. Maybe it was hot,
maybe it was really hot.

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
It was hot for both teams, especially for the team
who comes from Canberra trying to suburbs. I'm trying to
find wasn't you I mean, no, should he be? I
mean he said they gave up. The players gave up.
They gave it's it's it's I think it's worse than
back to square one. They're going backwards. I'm not sure
what happens this week. Apparently Moses back, but I don't

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see how much of the difference that don't make.

Speaker 4 (01:17:57):
It's a big it's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Just the kicking optimistic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
It's just really overwhelming me.

Speaker 8 (01:18:02):
Nick.

Speaker 6 (01:18:03):
It's hard to be optimistic. I know you're trying to
pump me up on Saturday night, but I just couldn't.
I couldn't get there. It's hard to be optimistic when
you're watching this stuff unfold in front of your eyes.
There's there's it's horrible to watch. There's nothing. I've got
nothing positive to say about Power at all from that game.
I don't know, you guys tripped me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
I think camber is a team that if you're off
your game, they're going to score points. They're a good team.
I rack the rap, all right, but it was just
it was.

Speaker 6 (01:18:30):
Like they were so much better just through hunger, Yeah,
attitude stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:18:36):
That's like if I see my team and they're giving
it a go and they lose all they gave no
problem like I do. I don't have a problem with
last last Saturday night, and I watched it with this
one last Sunday night. It seemed after fifteen twenty it
was horrible to watch. It seemed like they dropped off.
We mentioned there was the heat and how.

Speaker 6 (01:18:57):
Many like if you look in the first ten to
fifteen minutes, how many stupid penalties they give away errors,
school boys Sunday morning stuff. Yeah, I don't have any
policies to say about it. Credit to Cambra. That was great.
Ricky Stewart again his press conference takes a swipe at

(01:19:17):
Manly the jam Yeah for the Jamal, he hasn't not
going to bullshit anyone, you know. Manly came out and said,
we haven't. We haven't been like we've We've been upfront
with everything, you know, we haven't. Ricky Stewarts just being
Ricky Stewart. He needs to create an enemy. He needs
to create an enemy every week out of someone. He

(01:19:39):
couldn't do it out of power and he couldn't do
it out of the ref. So he had to pick
Manly because they want to sign a player who Canberra
are willing to let go, even though Ricky Sewer said,
I want to keep him, but the club's already told
him you can go. So explain that one of the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
Game when I spoke about he keeps people talking about him.

Speaker 6 (01:19:58):
He needs to create, he needs he really loves them.
He needs to fabricate some sort of enemy for himself. Yeah,
so he's always the victim. Yeah, we saw him the
week before out of Paramount had Actually I got to
share you I haven't shared I will. Yeah, can you
give us the three two ones on this one?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Three two one? Hudson Young got the three points. Joseph
Tappaney got the two. He's been playing World two this year.
And Ethan's strange. He got the one point for the Raiders.
Hasn't he been good? Ethan Strange, very good junior as well.

Speaker 4 (01:20:33):
I think I think this came this camera to him.
Some individuals like like smedi is like that. What's like
the english kid which is just developing, Nichols. Nichols, he's
just developing, but he's looking as a good long term
yeah prospect.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
And you can find a good Englishman, can't they. They
had Elliott Whitehead, they got Bateman, they got the hooker
at the half back whatever his name was mentioned.

Speaker 6 (01:20:58):
Yeah, if he if he's not, if he's not, he's
second best.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Front rower in the game after Pain. I don't know
who is. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:07):
Melburn storm forty two points to fourteen over the Warriors.
George Braces one down for us.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Yeah, not much to break down. You know, you know
a lot of teams at this time of the year
are searching for the identity. It's really funny that they
had it last year. They had their identity, they have
their offseason, they come back and it's lost a bit.
So they've got to work hard to find it again,
or like the Broncos are developing into who they're going

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to be by the end of the year. No such
luck with this Melbourne Storm team Nicola. They know exactly
who they are, they know exactly what they want to do,
exactly how they're going to do it. And did they
do it on Sunday? Did they do it outstanding? I
thought this was going to be seventy new at one stage,
they unfortunately took their foot off the the pedal. What

(01:21:58):
a big difference Jerone Hughes makes. I didn't expect that
much of a difference that he makes, but you know what,
everything just flies around him. I really felt for the
Warriors so much because they haven't sort of really played
against a team which, as I call it John Creas's

(01:22:24):
dark arts around the ruck. When the when Melbourne starts
doing their their their their their rucks, rolling that ruck,
turning the player over, they just lost it. They just
when the minute they lost the ruck and Jerene Hughes
was darting out and and Pat was coming into the line,

(01:22:46):
and how good is how yes good just keeps on developing, developing,
and he's he struck a chord with monster this this
forward you know what Stefano YouTube? What his name is,
Big Stephano. Anyway, at West I thought it was one
top of a forward. He comes here and he completely

(01:23:06):
changes the way he plays. But he's right for this
Melbourne team. So so John Creese has made him exactly
what he wants to get out of him. Okay basically
and dirty ballman, you know what I mean. Amazing, he's
he's he's an outstanding coach. This team again knows exactly
who they are and they're the They're they're the team

(01:23:29):
to be there, no doubt in my mind, they're the
team to beat. What is I feel for him the
minute of Fisher Harris went off, and not that he
was going to make a difference in terms of winning
the game, but that that authority in the middle once
he was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
How long he is out for?

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
He's gone, His eyes are sorry, his peck I think
he's torn his peck. It might be six weeks. He's
actually ripped the fish. He's ripped his peg. He's talking
about taking a week or two off and strapping it
up and plane. Look, he probably could. I wouldn't do it,
but he's a psycho. He's a fish and and still

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at the second. I don't know how he's going to
do it. I don't know, but he records he's having
a mitt not him, the staff, maybe the staff at
I think Bob look look, Luke metcalf And and Tabia
Harris looked at they showed something, they showed glimpses. But

(01:24:28):
look on the day they just got out plate in
every way. How bad his Coldsad's injury you know, no, no,
he got taken off his eyes. Well but they just
they just got burned every way. And this Melbourne's film.
They're a pleasure to watch, pleasure to watch there. Like
I said, they're the team, they're the team to beat.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
Three two one went to three went to Harry Grant.
Two points went to aber Coats. He had an outstanding
game out.

Speaker 4 (01:24:58):
I mentioned he's he's going to have green on him.
Don't worry about the Range's gonna have green on him.

Speaker 7 (01:25:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
And Ryan pap Now that's the best spine you'll see
in the inn of them. That's it's unbeatable.

Speaker 6 (01:25:12):
Closing out the round was Newcastle Knights at Home went
down twenty points to four over Sorry to the Tigers
and for me watching this one on Sunday was very
similar to watching the Eels the night before Newcastle. I
mean the Tigers did what they weren't great, right, they
made a lot of errors, but Newcastle would diabolical at

(01:25:35):
home in front of what looked like I sold our
crowd pretty close to it. Just the number of miss
there was. Tigers scored an early try I think I'm
not sure it was the first or second try. Bradman
best is one on one defense. Did you see that
where he was just grabbing an air? I mean that
that's telling that guy's not playing for New South Wales

(01:25:57):
with that kind of form, right what they that's at
the start of the game. So again with me, it's
like power, I'm gonna ask the question, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:26:06):
I don't know there's something going on there. I don't
know what's going on with this roster. They should be
doing much better now. The Fletcher sharp thing as we
go on and he doesn't create, he runs is telling.

Speaker 6 (01:26:21):
It's worth noting. I had a hell of a lot
of talent on the sideline they did. There is injury.

Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
There is there is injuries, but not enough to give
this top of performance.

Speaker 6 (01:26:32):
They tell yous did what they had to do. They
just they weren't great.

Speaker 4 (01:26:36):
They weren't great, they were great. I thought Newcastle played
better against the Dogs on that Sunday Sunday night, but
our very nights were very disappointing. They don't deserve that
they're a better team. They should be a better team
on paper. They don't even you know what. I feel
so sorry for Kaitlin. He tries so hard. All you

(01:26:57):
have to do is give him early ball. I keep
on saying it on shoulders. Can't they can't even do
that because Flincher Sharp isn't a ball player.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
I just feel so sorry for his first receiver, second receiver. Everything.

Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
The number of handling errors, the number of unforced errors.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
For both teams, but for Newcastle dog boll they couldn't.
At one stage, they're trying to get out of their
dirty ball. They kept on dropping dropping every second second tackle,
first second tackle, West would get it wouldn't score. So
the Knights get back, They're going to cut it out,
drop it, drop it again, like please take please. You
know what it's like like standing there and someone putting

(01:27:39):
the gun to your head. They shoot me, please shoot me?
Now that's what ms ol Tigers died shot shot anyway.
Jurine Buller is going to be special. Yeah, he's building
something there. They're building something, but it doesn't be.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Part of it. That's fine, you know it's free. But
you know what's freaking about? The Knights only scored two
tries in four weeks. They've had a buye between in
the four weeks, but still two tries in four in
four weeks. That's pretty bad. Maybe Buck, the horse from
the Bronco, should give it to the Knights. Buck should

(01:28:14):
get a new Castle and bucking beauty again next week.

Speaker 7 (01:28:21):
One of the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
That's it already.

Speaker 6 (01:28:26):
Give us the points on this bludder of the round.
This was a bludger.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
The bludder of the round we've got. Terrell May got
three points. Isn't he proven to be by the season?
Jerine Buller two points and Stafford Tower. Even though he
got into a bit of a stink with a gag guy,
he got the one point. He played pretty well at
the center.

Speaker 4 (01:28:47):
Walks and diamonds. Diamonds.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
He's good, Yeah, that's true. But he had a diamonds
game that was pretty good and.

Speaker 6 (01:28:54):
The Bulldogs had the bye. George undefeated after six rounds.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Two points, more points and streak continues.

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
Are do you take it through crystal ball? The crystal ball?

Speaker 1 (01:29:04):
Okay, So this week we've got our Easter weekend, so
we've got a few games. Love it. How quick did
that come round? Wow? So our first game, which will
be on Thursday night, will be the Seagulls up against
the Dragons up at four pints. Saint George continued to
the yoyo form one win, one lost, one win, so

(01:29:24):
we do for a loss now they've won the last four,
only won one of the last seven at four points,
so they were good ship there. Money Man's out for
the Dragons, fear and I has come in. Jason Saab's gone,
and the matchup for there would probably be Old Versu
Jayd and Suar. I think those two are pretty evenly matched.
Who are you liking in this one?

Speaker 6 (01:29:44):
I'm going I'm going mainly just based on the fact
that they're at home again how many weeks in a row,
and manly at home.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
Forever, although they played away with this last week there forever. Guys,
you know, what, are they unsettled? Because the DC thing
are they? Do you think they're unsettled?

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
I don't know. Well to bory Vich is I'm back.
He's still out, Tommy is still out.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
You know what I'm going I'm going to have a
guard feeling. I'm going to say they're unsettled, and I'm
gonna I'm gonna assume the Flanno's and a siege mentality
thing on the dragons, grab hid and run. I'm going
to go dragons. I'm going to go dragons on the

(01:30:31):
strength of their strength of their experience.

Speaker 1 (01:30:37):
Fair enough, what about you, I'll go dragons dragons. Okay,
so Nick, you're the only one that's gone. Mainly I'm
going to get the dragons as well. Good Friday, We've
got four o'clock kickoff at a Corps Bulldogs up against
the rabbit O's. Will be good for good Friday for
Rabbits or a good Friday for the dogs for this one.
Expecting a seventy k seventy thousand crowd. Seventy thousand people

(01:31:02):
apparently there were.

Speaker 6 (01:31:03):
So they're giving away four or five thousand tickets for
ten dollars each.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Yeah, some pretty good. Yeah, which is good good good
to me.

Speaker 6 (01:31:12):
Get the families in absolutely, I've always said, like forever,
kids under ten should be free exactly because you're going
to make money on chips and drinks and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Anyway, you'll yeah, you'll make more to much stuff. I've
got my kids.

Speaker 4 (01:31:24):
Yeah money anyway, we were growing up to you. If
you played for a junior club and you had this card,
you'd get living for free any ground. So that's that's
the way it should be now.

Speaker 9 (01:31:35):
Yeah, yeah, sure, but rules rule I think for me,
the Bulldogs in this one, sure, seventy thousand tip against them, Yeah,
seventy thousand people are.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
Let me just give you a couple of stats, mate,
the Rabbit.

Speaker 6 (01:31:49):
Say in other words, in other words, Kimber will be there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
That's it. Just a couple of quick sets. Rabbitas of
one of the last have won the last six Good
Friday games, and the Bulldogs will quie one try to
hit a thousand at equal Wow. Now we've got Harry
hayeses out, but we've got Burton kick out and took
Manure back from suspension. So the Bulldogs are going to
be full on strength and sous. They're looking at getting Campbell, Graham,

(01:32:15):
Cody Walker and Lewis Dodd's been named on interchange and Shuster,
remember Shuster. Yeah, man in reserves. They've got him named
in reserves. Sullivan and Alex Johnson are out. Harry hayeses
out for the Bulldogs. Yeah, columb Tungi versus Preston. I
think that's going to be a cracker. Are you going?
You know what? Nick's gone the Dogs?

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Yep, yeah, yeah, seventy thousand. I think this style of aggression,
this style of defense, South has have a face that Look,
if if Littrell decides to to tear us apart, that's
the only thing that will sway me. But I don't
think Littll will tear anyone apart. I think Dogs will

(01:32:59):
win and by the end, when will.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Fair enough? Mate, Well, look at Easter, So I'm going
the Easter bunny because there's no Easter dog. Yeah, I'm
going to get the bunnies.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
Okay, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Well, look, I think they've got a good site and
I think their back line is really good with soul.

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
I think that they've been involved in a few bludges.
Yeah that, I think the points that they're on. Mind
you that, and mind you, super coach can get you
off one game. So that's what scares me. Yea super
coach can get you off game. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I just thought the fact that Latrell and Cody are
back together.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
I like how supportive Latrell was of Gi in the
game last week, like visibly supportive, like putting some rounded
him and like really prop them because it would have
been a bit awkward.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Yeah, for sure, they're an underestimated team. So they've got
a lot of strike Campbell, Latrell, White and Joe Gray.
It's a very good team. Like people forget about how
good their backline. But anyway, it's gonna be a good test.

Speaker 6 (01:34:02):
The only thing for me is that the only kind
of what George always says, never underestimated Wayne Bennett coach.
I can't see the Dogs losing, especially the home crowd, everything, everything,
all the momentum is with the Dogs. But super coach
will just have something you would think. You know, it
won't be easy, right, it won't be an easy win.

Speaker 4 (01:34:22):
Wayne's Waynes conjured something up, No doubt they've been trying.

Speaker 2 (01:34:27):
Like we say, he's a great coach, but Dolphins didn't
have a great run under him.

Speaker 6 (01:34:34):
Of course never did Newcastle when he was there. Yeah
that was a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
We got a boy. Yeah, but I'm going the Dogs
on that one. Yeah, following that game in Friday evening
is Dolphins and Storm. It's not a game that we're
going to be rushing home from there, but duff you
to watch. That's a nice thing. I'll be church no
mana jerking. It's going to be a cracking game this one.
Dolphins up against the Storm. Dolphins were the premiers last

(01:35:00):
week and this week they're playing the runners up Storm,
so they can knock off these two. It's pretty good
for the Dolphins now throughout the last for it at
sun Corp and Josh Kirk makes his one hundredth appearance.

Speaker 6 (01:35:15):
We're going to get We're going to get footage of
that two GB.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he says.

Speaker 6 (01:35:24):
The team that isn't playing playing, Yeah, what's a bit hard?
Next week I'll find it. Yeah, okay, next week. That's gold.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Both both teams are as is the only thing Jerome
who's came off second half last week, but he's fine.
He was arrested. I think he wasn't he was arrested. Yeah,
they took him off, but he's playing. He's been named.

Speaker 7 (01:35:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Dolphins have got Francis Smolo, Junior Tupo and Kenneth Bromwich.
But they're only named on reserve, so they haven't been named.
So teams are more or less as is the Hammer
up against Papenhaus and think it'll be good and Marshall
King with Grant. I think they're key.

Speaker 6 (01:36:00):
There's a new injury that's surfaced in the game as well,
hamstring tightness. Have you noticed that everyone's getting hamstring tightness?
Now have you guys noticed that over the last few weeks,
Not hamstring pool or tear, it's tightness. My hamstrings tight.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
Might see down there, there's there's only one result here. Unfortunately,
I love the Fins.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
Put me down for Dolphins are because last week when
you went on, they were like Dolphins Panthers. Surely Panthers
won't lose. I'll put my hand up for Dolphins.

Speaker 4 (01:36:35):
What I saw last week, no one could be at
the moment, No one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
Except for one team who is the Dragon's been them
two weeks. It doesn't matter. We're still beating. I'll take it.
I would take it. Yep. So we've all gone the
storm except for Tanure who's gone the Dolphins. Good on you,
that's a good one. That's I reckon. You've got a

(01:37:01):
good chance here. You never know.

Speaker 6 (01:37:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Super Saturday is the Warriors up against the Broncos, both
teams coming off losses. Pompey would be playing his hundredth
game and Broncos are one of the three of the
last four in New Zealand. Clock stad Fisher, Harris, Rocko
Berry out Man Cossi is in for Berry to Picky
goes in at fullback, Caple goes to the centers. Jackson

(01:37:24):
Ford front row man, is a small player to play
front row for the Fish. So they're they're changes. But
I had to put this one in for you. Nick
Morgan Harper, who's.

Speaker 6 (01:37:33):
You played for?

Speaker 8 (01:37:34):
Warrnaged him in the reserves. I doubt he will play,
but went I just wanted to say Jack got Jack
Siwski whatever. Gouski has been out for the Broncos and
Jordan Ricky is back. Yeah, Jordan ricks all the way.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Yeah, just the Authurs got downgraded, so he's h I
A two so he can play this week Fish initially.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
Yeah, look after you know how much all like you
and Broncos after last week's Broncos, Yeah, after last week lost,
they would have a Rocker rocking up the backsides this week,
so they.

Speaker 1 (01:38:17):
Went, yeah, now the next game, we've all gone the
Broncos for this one looks like it's a pretty straight one.
Roosters are up against the Panthers. Now, the Roosters have
played the Panthers and the Broncos twice, so that's out
of four games in seven rounds.

Speaker 6 (01:38:35):
That's crazy laughing about this one because when the joke
the last time these two played, the whole narrative was
the Roosters, what are phenomenal, but parents are still on
two points?

Speaker 1 (01:38:45):
Yeah? Yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (01:38:47):
It wasn't that big of a win when you look
back on it now, was it? Rights are still on
two points?

Speaker 1 (01:38:53):
Exactly?

Speaker 6 (01:38:54):
I'll go I'll go the Roosters on this one because
they look good and.

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
Well, Melbourne just beat the Remember Penis came back can
nearly beat Melbourne and then Roosters came back and beat him.

Speaker 6 (01:39:02):
Do you remember all the hoopla about James Desco the
greatest win in the club's history or in my career.
I can't remember which one. He said, Penris are still
on two points.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Yeah, but Ruces were all juniors too, They had a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:39:13):
Of youngsters playing. Parish are still on two points?

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
Were they were.

Speaker 6 (01:39:18):
Billy Smith, I'm going I'm going to Chucks.

Speaker 1 (01:39:22):
You're going to the Chucks. Billy Smith suspended is out
and quantas the guy in quant to see whatever his
name is, he came back in. So Mitch Kenny is
back in.

Speaker 4 (01:39:30):
Man been the favorite sportspit how I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
M you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:39:39):
Only that Penrith.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
I don't know why.

Speaker 4 (01:39:43):
I don't know why because I'm silly.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
You're going Penrith. Okay, it's a tough one. Actually, I'm
going to go Penrith as well. Actually, George, the next
one is tougher. Yeah. The next one is the Titans
up against the Raiders. Ricky versus DESI did these cards
meet the Grand Final? Reckon did? When Cambra played the
Raiders in eighty seven? Were they both playing?

Speaker 6 (01:40:07):
Uh well, wait a second, Wait a second. When Camebra
played the Raiders, camera played mainly has was the mainly halfback?
And was and Ricky was the camera?

Speaker 8 (01:40:16):
It was?

Speaker 6 (01:40:18):
And who was the camera? Fire eight?

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
George?

Speaker 6 (01:40:20):
It wasn't Daily, wasn't it Sullivan? Yeahd was?

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
Well, Titans have lost three of the last fourth, but
the record isn't that good? And Raiders won nine at
the last ten against Titans.

Speaker 7 (01:40:34):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:40:34):
By the way, the last Grand Final ever held at
the s c G it was Yeah, eighty eight was
the first one of the s f s.

Speaker 1 (01:40:41):
Yes, it was dogs.

Speaker 6 (01:40:44):
Come on, guys, you should know this better than me. Uh,
I'll never challenge you.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Ten is back for this one. Yeah, the two, the
two famous Yes, I love the boys are back, the
brothers and Isaac's brother and O J Fafa he's back.
Firmer goes back to the second row and Sammy into
the centers.

Speaker 6 (01:41:06):
I think have made Camberra look good. I think the
Gold Coast will get this one up at Sea Bus.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
Okay, so you're gaining Titans, Tana Titans. I'm going Raiders, Georgie.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
Oh, I you know what.

Speaker 4 (01:41:26):
I want to believe in the so much. I don't
know what he's doing. I don't know. I can't understand
his patterns. I don't understand. I'm going to go Cambra
because I know what they do.

Speaker 1 (01:41:37):
I'm going Canberra as well. So we've got two each.
There were split down the middle there, which is good
Titans and tight game.

Speaker 4 (01:41:43):
I actually wish that the Titans win and I see
a certain type of pattern, so I understand what I
still haven't understood. There's hair brain idea.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
Yeah, Sunday, we've got the one game we've got Knights
up against the Sharks. Will the Knights to be able
to score more than to try this week nights? You know,
the Knights have got the second best defensive records. I
believe that even that they can't score? Uh tan, Yeah,
yeah Sharks.

Speaker 4 (01:42:18):
Did you watch them last week?

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
I took the Tigers that game. But that's pretty even
in terms of starts and the boys that are playing
and who's in and stuff. But yeah, I just you're.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Feeling Aladdin has been named even tho they came off
with a groin injury.

Speaker 4 (01:42:38):
We surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Yeah, so I'm surprised if he plays, but he's been named,
which is interesting. Tyson gambles back at the Sledger, King Sledger.
So they've got a half back this week. It's different halves.
Who's half who's playing half gamble gambles of the halves.
It's still there. But still yeah Cornel Coronella or gone

(01:43:02):
Corneller No oh you're going?

Speaker 6 (01:43:07):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Sorry, sorry okay, And now Monday is Super Monday game.
We've got the West Tigers and the Eels. Last year
was a little spoon bowl, wasn't it. But this year
we've got the West Tigers were in the eighth and
the Eels down the bottom.

Speaker 6 (01:43:22):
Who won the last season the Tigers won with the
field goal, right, yeah, right at the end. They know, sorry,
missed an easy conversion. He could have won it after
the whistle. Yeah, well he's like the third choice goalkicker.
But yeah, but you know what, and I could be wrong.
Told me the stats. I don't think the Tigers have

(01:43:43):
ever beaten the Eels with Yeah, probably not. They've only
ever been in without. Let's not forget the sixty points
to whatever it was last game of the last year.
I just thought of bring that up. Hard for me
to tip the Heels on this one. But if Moses
really is I want to I'm going to throw Hail
Mary and gave.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Yeah he is playing, and I'm going for power.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
He's been named. I don't know if he's gonna play.
I'm going to throw Hew Mary anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
Well, Skelton and Galvin are out.

Speaker 1 (01:44:13):
Skelters out Dew. He's moved to half. You've got Mitch.
Moses Simmonson has been named on the bench on the wing.
Jack Williams is back for the Tiger. For the Eels
there as well, off and off and gowy off hang
GOWI and dropped Lane dropped. Madison's on the bench. How

(01:44:34):
can he have import him? Know he isn't playing, but
Lane has been terrible. Actually, Madison's in the reserves.

Speaker 4 (01:44:41):
Terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
We won't play.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
Yeah, it was terrible last week.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
They were all terrible last week.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
I expect to expect PARAMOUNTA to to play much better,
to lift home home ground home people. And I think
it's the West home game this want.

Speaker 1 (01:44:59):
I think West same game. Ye, come back man, they record,
there's good. They're one of the last three. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:45:04):
Look against the Eels A I'm going to go reluctantly
three deplete. Yeah, I'm going to go reluctantly Tigers. But
dropping Luck he's a mistake. We'll see, that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
We'll see.

Speaker 6 (01:45:17):
And I think I'm going to tip.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
The Cowboys was a bit to buy. Yeah, I think
the heat. Yeah, you're right, you're right, thanks for that.

Speaker 6 (01:45:29):
Can you give us you weren't here last week, so
you've got all the away teams because you didn't give
us any tips? Next tip next week? You do you
want to give us a.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
Wrap up on last week? Yeah, I'll give it.

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
Next week and you start giving us power rankings, power rankings,
yeah sure, power rankings, no problem, and you're not going to.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Already all right now, I wasn't here last week and
we had the Challenge Cup. So semi five did you
do them?

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
Okay, because I didn't get to the end of the pot.
I'm still listening to it. Uh So we've got Challenge
Cup quarterfinal. Warrington Wolves beats in Helen's twenty to twelve,
FC sixteen whole, Kingston Rovers thirty two Battle of the
two whole teams, Catalan beat the South of Devils twenty
to twelve and Trinity lost went down to the ugliest

(01:46:16):
jerseys in the world Lee Leopards twelve to twenty. So
the quarterfinals, which will be played in May tenth of
May is Gatalan Dragons versus Hull and on the twelfth
it's the Warrington Wolves versus the ugliest jerseys in the world,
the Lee Leopards. Now the results for the week that
just passed, This is interesting, right, We've got the South

(01:46:37):
of Devil's nil, Leeds Rhinos, Brad Arthur's team twenty eight.

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
They're doing very well.

Speaker 1 (01:46:42):
St Helen's twenty six, Wakefield Trinity fourteen, Hole Kingston Rovers twelve,
the Wigan Warriors twenty eight, then coming back Warrington Wolves sixteen,
Whole FC twenty eight. Ex Sam's team went down Castleford
Tigers six, the Lee Leopards. We have to say it
all the time again. Jersey in the world on twenty

(01:47:02):
are and Addasville Giants eighteen, Catalan thirty eight, which leaves
Hull Kingston Rovers on twelve. Interesting table, isn't it. Hul
Kingston Rovers on twelve, on eleven, and then Wigan and
Saint Helen's on ten. That's the top four. Lee Leopards
augs Jersey's on nine, so a change in. It's very close.
A three points separates first and very very quickly I got.

Speaker 4 (01:47:26):
The information about and a real buying the Super League.
I told Nicola off camera the Feathers or the Land
wants to buy super League. Thirty percent stake of super League.

(01:47:48):
They run it and I will runs it. Not negotiable,
not negotiable. It's going to be a ten team competition,
eight English teams, two French teams, so they develop Europe
every team will have a sister club in Australia.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
In ten or ten.

Speaker 4 (01:48:11):
Yeah no, no, wait a minute, they have the NRL
teams have to send send coaches and development staff to
do a pairent of style recruiting sort of thing. Okay,
they want the Super League to be feeder a feeder

(01:48:31):
clubs for the NRL.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
Did we talk about this on air last week or before?

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
We talked about a couple of weeks ago. But this
is the official. This is the official.

Speaker 6 (01:48:44):
This is I started understand how someone can purchase a
thirty three percent steak and assume total control because they're
on their knees. So it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (01:48:53):
They're on their knees. So what they What he wants
to do is the television duals are coming up in
two years. Okay. He wants to build it up. He
wants to get good, good dollars for it. He wants
to give it back to It's going to cost the money.
It's going to cost the nr OL money. It's they're
not going to make any money out of this. What

(01:49:14):
he what he wants to do is develop the international game. Okay,
and he wants he wants simply to be a feeder
for the NRL. That's what he actually wants.

Speaker 1 (01:49:25):
Can st Helen's were the food for Saint George because
they were the same Jersey red v They don't have
to just so Helen's. So Hell's got the best youth
system in the.

Speaker 4 (01:49:35):
In the country. But that's that's a simper league. And
look if they agree, which you know what, they're going
to agree because they're on their knees. They've got nothing there.
They're nearly ready to just fall over. They've got nothing. Yeah,
that's how bad they are, this closing falling over. So
they believe that n RAL will be their savior. I
believe the Lands will be their savior. But the issue

(01:49:57):
is this, he'll get the big deal, he'll fix the
he'll fix the get the big deal, and then he's
going to give it back to them. Guess what they're
going to do it they're going to crash it. Yeah,
they're going to crash. But anyway, maybe they're not anyway,
move on. Yeah, endply won three this morning over the
ten for player in profile this week.

Speaker 1 (01:50:16):
Please, Oh you're.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Gonna love this. George, So he was out with it
around two. Campierre and I did talk about him a.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
Lot last year to Pier.

Speaker 2 (01:50:28):
Yeah, yeah, so he my player interview. So he was
born in New South Wales.

Speaker 4 (01:50:36):
Of course, of course, of course he was of course
to the Gold.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Coast when he was nine.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Just made it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
Background Samoe and Mary Pakistani and Indigenous Australians.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
Yeah, he played for Indigenous Journal against I think as
Mary or twin last year or something. He was a
first Titan's player to score more than twenty tries in
the season. He's played forty five games and scored forty
six tries. He's back in round eight and he's yeah,

(01:51:12):
he's so. I've obviously leading into you know, the seasons,
you know, coming back then off and back again. But
once he is back in and then Tino as well, together,
it's gonna be so good. But he debuted in twenty nineteen.
He got the Prime Minister's was it the thirteen against

(01:51:34):
Paper New Guinea. He is eligible for Queensland State of
ur ages.

Speaker 4 (01:51:41):
He's very good, very very very good.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
One of the contenders. But also like obviously now you
guys would you know know the style I guess of
what I like him players, but just super humble workhorse.
You don't hear it like I think when I was
talking to you guys about it last week, last year
or some one else, and I was like, can't Pierre
scores a try every game and imagine being and in

(01:52:05):
his first season he broke a record. What an absolute unit.
But he is back next week, not this week.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
It scripted. He's Queensland because if it was just South
Wales wouldn't get picked because he scores too many tries
for New South Wales. Do you know what his junior
club was, Burly Bears.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
Yeah, so on the Gold Coast that you guys would
have I don't know if you would have heard of it,
but Keepra Park. So he went to Keepra Parks and
keep it parks. Basically at Beta it should be for tigers,
but it's actually feeder for a lot of the clubs.
But pretty much Burley is pretty clever. They come along
and scooped them up fairly quickly. But yeah, he's just
he's just brilliant. He's like one of my favorite players

(01:52:46):
to watch and he's just going to be He's awesome.
Like he's similar to I guess like Perdue and and
Jai Gray where they don't have any controversy out there
in the media, they just kind of do their thing.
And then you because I've been missing watching him play
because he's such a standout, right, but he's Yeah, he's
just brilliant.

Speaker 4 (01:53:07):
What what what will remind me again? He's injured?

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
What did you come round? Two? Was it a hamstring?

Speaker 1 (01:53:15):
Hamstring tightness? How many years you've been in the n now?

Speaker 5 (01:53:19):
This is? This is three?

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
But yeah, he And then I think last year he's
scored I think twenty three. It wouldn't have been twenty three,
but definitely his first year.

Speaker 4 (01:53:36):
You can't love last year? No good one, too good one,
loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
He. I won't keep bringing out New South Wales a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:53:49):
Next week can you do it?

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:53:51):
Actually next I was planning on doing the yeah poor carriage,
remember from.

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
Can You Do It?

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
Can you do you do one? From it? No? No, no,
an old Bronco like. I don't know Windle, I don't
know in that team, in that team or one of
your favorites.

Speaker 6 (01:54:09):
I don't know one of your favorites in that team, Windle, Sailor,
poor half, Michael Hancoff, Mark Hone, Trevor Gilmy. Yes, what
a team? What a what a team? Kevy Talas actually
that was before Talass was later.

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Yeah, actually, like justin.

Speaker 4 (01:54:28):
That was.

Speaker 6 (01:54:30):
I'm talking ninety two ninety three. I'm talking that team
poor half.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
Oh yeah, we found with the Pearl.

Speaker 6 (01:54:37):
Steve Renolf, which one of the best centers I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
I like mat.

Speaker 2 (01:54:45):
I met him last year and I didn't realize it
was him. It was before the Origin game because I
was chatting with him with everyone. Yeah, it's like you know,
talking to those money bow It was the name Mate
that pulled me up the following month because I went
to a networking event and he's like, you're talking to
the mayor of Toumber and I'm like, am I And
he's like ten. I'm like, I don't like to think

(01:55:06):
about people like that. It was very lovely.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
So lovely is lovely.

Speaker 6 (01:55:13):
That's the way, and that's it. Have anything ask for us,
I have got something else.

Speaker 4 (01:55:24):
I was listening to SCN and they brought up a
season and a servants in George team. So I went
back scurring, scurrying and having a look. And I'm going
to bring back for one week, going only a year
in review. Oh, it's nineteen fifty nine, fifty nine, fifty
nine and Nicole. That was a ten ten competition. That's

(01:55:47):
the number we won anyway, and let's get real, we
know we know who won the comp that year Minor
Premiers was Saint George. Was there're six straight and of
course they won the competition six straight.

Speaker 1 (01:55:59):
There was a six because we won fifty six to
sixty six? Fifty six? Was it says six straight?

Speaker 6 (01:56:05):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:56:05):
Okay, that's what it said.

Speaker 4 (01:56:07):
How would you pray place.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
It fourth because we won from fifty six to sixty six.

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
Okay, okay, there's fourth.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
I got it wrong. It doesn't matter. Well, wrong their way,
on their way.

Speaker 4 (01:56:19):
That year, Kenny Irvine was top try scorer Nicola with nineteen.
Now this is what I found interesting. So George were
undefeated at Nicola. They won nineteen from twenty. The only
game they drew was against Balmain, and Balmain came the
bottom of the table that year. Wow, they they scored

(01:56:42):
forty points six times. They averaged six point thirty points,
four and ten points. Again. A few players debuted that year.
You might notice some of these players, a guy called
Regg Gaznia and another guy called Johnny Raper and Nicola,
they debuted. All the youngsters. Tell us about Aaron Raper,
his son state of origin. Aaron didn't didn't play, sat

(01:57:05):
on the bench, is the only one I know. Yeah,
Tommy Thomas was a courage. The Top four, which was
the top four system back then. Nicola Saint George were
on thirty five and undefeated West were the second team
twenty seven, Manly twenty two, Newtown twenty and the team

(01:57:25):
that beat or drew against Usat George was seventh with
thirteen points. So in the in the semifinals, Nicola Saints
defeated West and they all straight In the Grand Final,
they defeated West thirty five twenty five and they just
went straight to the GF mainly defeated Newtown seventeen to six,

(01:57:50):
and the next week a boilover. Nicola mainly defeated West
fourteen thirteen, which.

Speaker 1 (01:57:56):
Was wow, which was a boilover. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:57:59):
That week Grand Final week, Nicole, there was rumors that
Rex Mossip had a broken cheek bat and the rooms
were flying around. Uh So some of the forwards, specifically
Harry Bath in the Grand Final, took it upon themselves to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
Check to test the cheek babes.

Speaker 4 (01:58:21):
They took, they took an exception and they tested the
cheeck babe, I remember babes.

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
Yes, George, by that time, the St. George, the St.
George Pack was just completely rolling, steamrolling.

Speaker 4 (01:58:37):
The manly pack. Nicola in frustration, Rex Mossip after bath
again testing his cheek bone. Barth was lying on the floor.
So Rex mossif decides to stomp on on Harry Barth's head.
Look from that, a big oil in broad starts and

(01:59:00):
the referee law Lawla sends sends both of them off,
which was unusual back back then because I would you
know they'll send off. But anyway, uh and then but
look by that time, uh, non private norm Provence Saint
George pack just just steamrolled them and they won twenty
twenty nil. But the what what I found interesting that

(01:59:22):
they had unblemish season. They decide the draw which on
how and drew against them.

Speaker 1 (01:59:30):
Yeah, the undefeated undefeated season underf season anytime any yeah,
any undefeated undefeated Yeah yeah, I didn't know.

Speaker 6 (01:59:41):
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
It only happened once.

Speaker 6 (01:59:43):
Yeah, awesome, So that's what George.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
No, I don't think so, yeah, I don't think. So
we'll see how we.

Speaker 4 (01:59:49):
Gos and t a couple of weeks we're playing the
Brisbane on the Thursday night. I guess where some corp
and we'll see how we go there, because I'm sure
Brisbane will be ready for the bulldogs. D is that
it's in two weeks of my phone? It's in a
couple of weeks. I wish I could get up there

(02:00:11):
actually before the Thursday about it. If it wasn't a
Thursday too, I would fly, I would fly up there. No,
it's the twenty fourth eight, So next week next week,
it's next week.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Twenty fourth Yeah, next week, that night before April Antac
Day on holidays next week, Well, there you go.

Speaker 4 (02:00:29):
You go if you jump on the plane.

Speaker 6 (02:00:32):
I've got the.

Speaker 4 (02:00:34):
Tea the teas of song, so sorry to you can't
you can't hear him, but I've got two because I
remember listening to this one in well actually I did,
didn't have his Cortina yet. I remember swapping cassette cassette singles, remember.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
The cassette said cat single.

Speaker 4 (02:00:54):
I remember I remember swapping the cast singles with Fudding
and I was wondering if he remembers it. And and
Nicole maybe you know, maybe you know, maybe you know
it was a massive hit, give us a massive hit
and by the way, I got one after specifically for you,
specifically for you, Okay, And that was the boy Wonders. Sorry, sorry,

(02:01:21):
you got you got the you got? You're the first one?

Speaker 1 (02:01:25):
Did you like it?

Speaker 4 (02:01:25):
It's funny. Let's let's say if I can remember this one.

Speaker 6 (02:01:34):
Was George, I'm going to follow my let's sound like
careless whisper.

Speaker 1 (02:01:39):
I'm going to follow my heart. You got it? You're right. Yeah,
I don't know the name of the song. It sounds
like careless whisper. I'm going, yeah, it's that's up.

Speaker 4 (02:01:56):
My heart, my heart?

Speaker 1 (02:01:57):
Remember who by.

Speaker 6 (02:02:01):
No quarter flash?

Speaker 1 (02:02:02):
It's such a quarter flash.

Speaker 6 (02:02:03):
Yeah, quick snippets.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
Yeah, it's something like this. Are you gonna play that
at the end. That's a great song.

Speaker 5 (02:02:16):
You.

Speaker 1 (02:02:17):
I love the saxophone.

Speaker 6 (02:02:18):
It's a great I really before my time.

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
Yeah, it was eighty it saxophone beautiful.

Speaker 4 (02:02:25):
I got one from the here we go, I've got now.
I'm expecting Nicolota to even before I sit back in
my seat.

Speaker 6 (02:02:33):
It's a one second snippet. How am I possibly supposed
to get it?

Speaker 1 (02:02:36):
You'll be surprised.

Speaker 5 (02:02:37):
Let's see, really, ah again, it's half a second. No,
I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (02:02:51):
Is the kids do it again.

Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
I got it man, h it's too quick.

Speaker 1 (02:03:12):
I looked from the eighties.

Speaker 6 (02:03:15):
That's from look it Up. Yeah, okay, I'm picking seventies. Yeah,
that's from Linking Up eighty three.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
Yeah. It's a song called.

Speaker 6 (02:03:29):
Not for the Innocent. I'm not for the Yeah. But
how you can't tell me you need that song from this?
Of course not. They don't either, if you ask Gene
Simmons and Paul Stanley. It's never been played live. That
is like, I would never have been able to pick me.
I'm thinking, I'm thinking Destroyer love Gun, I'm thinking rock

(02:03:52):
and roll Over. I never would have picked me again.

Speaker 4 (02:03:54):
The only reason I would play this is I think
it's a record that.

Speaker 6 (02:04:00):
Anything he's listening to, it's a great song. You look
it up. He likes the album first album without makeup.
They took the makeup of three. Really likes the album.
He liked the album so first Not for the Innocent.
It wasn't a hit, wasn't it. The album wasn't hit. No,
the album was. That's not that song, but that wasn't
a single.

Speaker 1 (02:04:19):
Look it up?

Speaker 6 (02:04:20):
Yes, that's what I told him, And all hell was
breaking loose. He was Hell's break and he didn't. He
didn't know what what was the single? He just liked
not that's a good song. But I never would have
picked out the million years was picked all night?

Speaker 1 (02:04:36):
What pick pick?

Speaker 6 (02:04:41):
I'll pick a one from the seventies next week, and
let's put the X back in the sex.

Speaker 4 (02:04:45):
Let's put what was that from?

Speaker 6 (02:04:49):
That's a trick question. He didn't come off on an album,
a compilation album which lashes, thrashes and hits. It didn't
come off studio album. It was like a life too.
We four studio tracks on the.

Speaker 4 (02:05:01):
End of it was it, Yeah, I'm going to go
and I can't believe you've got it straight away out
of my heart?

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
Great track?

Speaker 6 (02:05:09):
Can I just say one more thing before we before
we lower the curtain? Next week is episode one hundred?

Speaker 1 (02:05:15):
Is the next week?

Speaker 4 (02:05:17):
At least the week all?

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:05:20):
After it's the weekends?

Speaker 6 (02:05:21):
Maybe is there any depending on everyone else, can we
maybe do Wednesday night next week or not?

Speaker 4 (02:05:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (02:05:28):
Because I want to get a cake made up and
Tuesday probably won't be enough time. Monday's a public holiday,
Friday's a public holiday.

Speaker 1 (02:05:36):
Wednesday, Yeah, I'll be here around here, you know, we can.

Speaker 6 (02:05:40):
I'll get a cake made up with hundred Mondays holiday.
Yeah done. It will take me a day to get
over the lost. At least if I got Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
You know what they're looking at it. There's a good
chance that all our teams. Teams might win this week.

Speaker 4 (02:05:55):
The continue, the street continues to the street, Street continues.

Speaker 1 (02:05:58):
We've got four teams. We've got to continue. You know
how close we came this weason. You don't realize how
close we came this week. You want Broncos lost, Para
loss and George one like that was lucky man. If
Saints last, it would have been the first time the
streaks out. We'll say the bye. Can we use that
we did? We did two points? Were scraping there. We're
using the bike four teams now every week.

Speaker 4 (02:06:26):
How do we go wrong?

Speaker 6 (02:06:28):
I'm taking the buy every day of the week. You
gotta do what you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (02:06:33):
Jeez.

Speaker 6 (02:06:34):
Well, thanks guys for another great episode. And like you said,
happy Easter and everyone out there is celebrating it. Happy
Greek this weekend as well.

Speaker 1 (02:06:42):
Right just before we get Greek, every one before we
go was one of the Greek Grand Finale. This information
it comes up on the first book congratulations are the
second division friends.

Speaker 6 (02:07:01):
They're starting their own faith, they're starting their own Facebook
and it's called grease Book. Sorry, no, that's it. I
was just saying Happy Easter, Greek start to the Greek
contingent as well. It's rare that it falls on the
same weekend, which which means I'll see you on Friday,
you on Sunday. Oh yeah, and happy Easter everyone out

(02:07:26):
there listening, and we'll see you all for one hundredth
episode next week.

Speaker 1 (02:07:30):
Yeah, one hundred. Happy rugby league, eybody,
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