Quick Hands Podcast - 50TH Episode Arthur's Back EP.50

This week the boy's celebrate the 50TH episode of Quick Hands asa Arthur returns to the hot seat as the boy's talk about who's gonna make the 8, Coach of the year, Best is Best, ponga is the man , St george ripped off and Saint Helens top 4 in super league

Episode Transcript

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Oh, I'm George and I'm Nick, and welcome to the Quick Hands Rugby
League Podcast. This is the podthat tells them luck it is. They
don't know what to do, theyknow what to do, they don't want
they don't want to pull the trigger. Why the hell do you bring a
lawyer to it? To the judicstry. They should have got beautiful two years

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ago creates cat like Nancy quick Handsand went back for the half century people.
We made it episode fifty boys didit so glad to looking nice and
ten here come out of the frontpan looking forward to I can't believe you're

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on time sessions brought you. Yeah, we got everything here we got we
got donuts with the logo one andwe've got balloons, we've got mugs,
fantastic set up and five we've gota big show, big five. We
got a big show like I rememberthose days, cramping around a little microphone

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and you remember when we ate fortyminutes and then you had to join it.
It was funny. It was funnycompared to now. Shout out to
Enter and Anthony for the setup they'vedone. It's been fantastic. It looks
great. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know, out of everybody here,
we've got the easiest part. Thehard work that goes on behind the
scenes. We've got the easiest part. Fantastic. But um, yeah,

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in every way, actually leave everyway absolutely, especially um the wonder Boy
where we're sitting now and everything aroundus, it's it's all because of him.
I've I did nothing, guys.We just turned up. We just
turned up. That's it. Butaround twenty's round twenty two in the cam

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Nico in the cam a I doing. Let me ask you boy something.
What's your favorite Yeah, let's go, let's go off track for a minute.
What's your favorite part of the show? Favorite favorite episode? Yea favorite
episode or a favorite episode? Jeezuh you go first, mate, Okay,
Um, my favorite part of theshow is getting together with you blokes

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number one and I look, I'mum. I'm a massive fan of um
of spam, of spam. Actuallyactually wait for spam every week. And
there's there's about six psychos that ringme every Friday or Thursday or Friday.
Um. Regarding spam mail. There'sone guy that I'll call him the brush

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guy. Every Friday I get thatphone call about spam. Um, it's
a big hit everyone and and Ilike, um, you know what I
like? I like um, andit's something I'm going to speak about later,
but I like how we we Weshoot from the hip. We say

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how it is, and you know, it's uncomfortable. And you know what.
Something else, which which our listenersor viewers might not know as well,
is that we record every show live. There's no editing here. We
hit record, we hit stop byour producer who's off camera. You can't
see him. He you know,he does all the magic work with the
shorts and all that stuff. Butum, we don't edit. We record

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live raw from the hip, andthat's how we roll. It is what
it is that you know what Myfavorite part is that we followed the plight
the World Champions. That's my favorite. Saint Helen's body. I didn't know

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anything about Saint Helen's at the startof the season. Man Lee Lippards ulist
jersey in history following and my favoriteepisode, I don't actually know what what
number it was when you fella surprisedme with the Napoli intro actually won the
Yeah, so that's that was yeah, I didn't say that one come into

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That was an awesome surprise won theagain. That was an awesome surprise.
Yeah, no, no, it'ssome some moments, um are pretty good.
But you know what's just getting togetheron on on on on a Wednesday
evening. Yeah, um, andit seemed to be Tuesday apparently. UM.
And seeing you guys and talking aboutour favorite subject, talking about something
we love passionately, passionately absolutely probablythe best part of the whole week.

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I actually look forward to it absolutelywhen this when this episode, when the
episode finishes, I can't went tohear it back and I hear it back
and I watch it as well,okay, and I hear it again,
and then when when that's done,I can went into the next next week.
So that's that's me. That's me. Unfortunately, you guys, it's

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always happy. That's pretty cool.That wear it for for the episodes.
Um, I'm a quick video toshow you guys a little recap on something
beauty, some surprises in the somethingsome study might not expect. Um.
But yeah, I'm just gonna setup now you guys, you guys con
you're talking, No, i'let saywhen you're ready to roll that easy prating

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is there are Let's see I don'tknow. Yeah, view discretion is advised
because we swear like ru and ifyou don't like it, it's your problem.
Well you know what I models willif if if one of the boys

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got a few minutes to set itup, you're a few minutes set it
up. Um. Um, I'mmodels will get something out of the way
and talk about the dark side ofthe NR role and the N rule meta
and media and I went go toohard, won't get too hard? And
this is um the dark side,h this is this is this is um.

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This is an unscripted and Arthur,Arthur and Nicola don't know about it.
Um a friend of a friend ofthe pod or another pod. Um
the lads lad rugby league. Umthey've got um pulled off some of the
shorts on Insta from the rugby league, from from from an okay and um

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they've been going through this prices fora while now, trying to get this
stuff back on. UM. Onething leads on, one thing leads to
another, Nicola And sometimes who yousee next to, or the person in
the next cubicle, or the cleaneror the coffee guy. Um, you'll
be surprised who knows who? Andknows what and this is that what what

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level of governance does the NRL haveover an independent that's that's a podcast.
That's a very good question. Andyou know what, NRL must have a
lot of power because they actually strippedthese kids. And you know what,
they're a bit different to us.I don't think that we're we're content creators.
I don't. I've never thought thatwe were. We just get together
and shoot the breeze. All wedo is relay a message. Yeah,

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and you know as we see it. And you know what, from day
one, from day one you calledit, this is one of your ones.
You said, Um, it's thepot that that tells her how it
is, where the pot it is? So, um, we've got to
a number that U and I recalls critical mass. So we we get

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to a certain amount of listeners,viewers or whatever, it's more listeners.
Um, and uh fortunately unfortunately we'reon the we're on their radar. You
don't know. Critical mass means thatwe've a massed a certain number of listeners,
viewers, subscribers, now where we'regetting noticed. Yeah, and then

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I was taking a look at goodyeah, yeah, well look it's it's
it's it's it's um. It stemsfrom my rants on referees and you actually
all started from the kiss thing.Your kiss Get it damn right, because
I'll say it again. I don'twant to see Jimmy Barnes before with the
grandfather. And if you don't wantus to complain about referees, didn't get

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it damn right in the first place. And I just want to. I
just want to because you know whatpeople are listening. UM, I just
want to make it very clear thatthat if um, something happens or forward
pass or if the if the refereesis going to be in nept or if
the bunk is going to be innetlock, they are I'm not going to
stop saying anything. And the onethe boy's not going to stop making shorts

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about it. Um, we aregoing to say about it. Let's be
clear about something in ardi. IMcurious to get your input on this.
We're not going to be censored byanyone. UM, You're not going to
shut us up. We come froma generation that we don't get offended and
we don't care if you do.So if you don't like it, it's
your problem. If you like it, keep listening. We'll get your plenty

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of entertation. And I want topull us to both of you guys,
because this is something that's unscripted allthere's no notice. And I'm thinking more
about artist because I know you don'tcare different the voice of reason. I
don't. I don't, I don'tplay the political game. And per se,
at the end of the day,all we're doing is reporting on what

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we see and we're not saying anythingthat isn't being reported through all the other
mediums out there. I don't thinkthat the shows they want to pick,
if they want to pick something,pick on buzz exactly exactly what we're doing
now. But they're selective on theirtargets. They think they seriously, if
you think we're easy targets, comeget some. You know what these kids

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and I and looks the first timeI spoke to him today and I went
back and looked at look at theirstuff, and they are content creatives.
They really are. They believe we'renot. We're not, we're not,
We're just we're just told it howit is. So maybe they perceive that
the we are content creators. Ithink we're a bit too older content.

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Yeah, but anyway, that's alot going to say ab out that I
promised the kids I'll say something umon on our pod because they'll be listening
to the fact of the matter isthat the games in a pretty poor state
at the moment, and they canwax lyrical about our ratings are the highest
in our crowd. Yeah that's great, but I've never heard people complain about

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the game more. Now, whereyou go and watch your game, your
team scores a try, you can'teven celebrate it for three and a half
minutes. You know, there's alot going wrong and referees are making stupid
mistakes, and everyone's talking about AI. Now you know, three years ago
no one could spell AI. Allof a sudden, everyone's experts on AI.
Well, you know what, ifyou can build a robot, they
can go a roll boat, thensurely you can use a television to see

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whether it passes forward or not.Am I wrong? And more? But
anyway, how about we've got tothe boy one go for us one?
Do you want to roll into thecontroversy corner until Yeah, it's already,
let's do Pappenhausen he's back this week. Wow, he's back in Queensland Cup.

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In Quinsland Cup. Yeah, it'sgood to see over a year.
He's been out for over a year. Yeah, well so well, I
hope he's sorted out now and helasts for many more years now because he's
had a lot of time off manand we've missed him because he entertain like
we've got Ruce Walshen and po nowfilling the gas, but we just probably
forgot how good this guy was aswell been in the new South Wales team

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this year. That's a good point, yea. And not only is he
had terrible luck with injuries, buthe had a bad run off concussions before
that as well. So I thinkwhat Bellam he is trying to do is
give him maybe two or three roundsin Queensland Cup, some match fitness and
getting ready for the semi finals.I just hope, I hope he can

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stay injury free. I was wrongwhen we had Troy here. Both Nicola
and Troy suggested that he should gothrough ump and I said that you know,
someone like Peppenhausen, you know whathe does contact the trade. You
put him on the bench and yougive him ten minutes, you know what
I mean, and you pull himstraight off. Obviously a super coach down

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there in um or John Crease thinksyou should should do two or three games
um in Q Cup. But letme tell you if he comes back of
what he what he was a weeklater? Okay, no, what he
was okay, Um, Melbourne,he will change like Bruce Walsh changes Brisbane.

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Because we look at Brisbane with RuceWalsh, should we think there are
a chance to win the comp?You take Greece Walsh and I'll tell you
now there's no chance of them winthe compa Brisbane. Okay. He's the
difference between last year and this year. So Pepenhausen in that Melbourne team.
And I feel sorry for meaning,but yeah, I don't want to say
I think he's been doing a goodjob. Think I think I'll find a

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spot for him. I don't thinkyou'll get I hope so because he's been
jerked around in Newcastle definitely one percent, jerked around the Canterbury okay, and
looks like you found a home atMelbourne. Okay. And then Pab comes
back and I'm sure he's got noproblem. I mean, you know he's
going to know what peraps coming back, you know what I mean? But
I hope he Um, I hopethey found the spot for him, but

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you know, watch his space becausea lot of times should be looking out
for this. Meaning absolutely, yeah, I'm sure he's a good player.
He's a very good player. Umso when he left us, I mean
you mentioned earlier about the whole refereething, so what about the dragons put
it out, you know, andGraham he came out and defended the decision.

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No, no, no, yes, decision was correct if you're not
the sad thing is, mate.I came back to from Hawaii on Saturday
afternoon, refreshed, calm. Absolutely, I couldn't wait, you know,
literally, I literally got in thedoor unpacked and by five third sitting in

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front of it. I'm finally gonnawatch rugby league. Yeah, depressed,
stressed, confused. It was terriblebecause I heard the referee say he's over
the line. Just check for grounding. That's all the referee send it upstairs
for. So they come back andthey go, yeah, boys touched the
ground, Yeah he's over the line. No try, And everyone's just going,

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what what what what? And nowthey came out with some convoluted explanation
that we're supposed to understand that that'sright, terrible. We're supposed to understand
that that was from the hip drop. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and
then and then they called it backfor the hip drop. Okay. And
if you look at it and youdon't know about a hip drop, you
don't think there's nothing on the woods. So he got four games for that,

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and that's what's trying to get.He's got four games. That's his
season, four games for he madea tackle and momentum swung him around a
little bit, but no one pickedit up at the time that came back
to it came back and you knowwhat annoys me. You know what,
we're not NR real. Forget themagazine shows they think we're stupid. Okay,

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um, but the n I reallythink that we're stupid, and we
don't when we see something we can'twe can't tell that it's a try or
not a try, or a forwardpass or not a forward pass, or
a hip drop or not a hipdrop. They treat us like we're inbeciles.
Guess what, we know something aboutthat a little bit. We know
a little bit about the game,but you know what to see that what

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happened to poor Jack? Okay,it's crazy, And let me tell you
that it's not the first time Jack'sbeen handed a pineapple in his life.
Okay, Okay, it was obvious. So I feel for Jack, And
you know what, it's lucky thatthis year for the Dragons, they're just
going through the motions. I mean, four games, they're not going to

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make the eight. Okay, butlet me tell you, throw on the
on the edge of the eight tryingto make it make the eight, and
you get rid of a crucial acrucial player like Jack de Bellan, Okay,
because he's the heartbeat of that team. Why right, lady, Yeah,
he's the harpy team basic happy theteam. Right. Then, then
then they've they've just destroyed a team'syear. Okay, And what did I

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say this year, if it's goingto be any year, this is the
year that our mistake from the referees, he's going to determine a semifinal or
a Grand Final. I can justsee it. I've always said that that
will never happen. The Grand Final. It's always going to be one on
merit. I'm doubt in my I'masking for trouble here, but I don't
care because I kind of love troubleanyway. Um, you know, talking

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about de Belin or Dylan Brown oreven Paul Kent, who's not part of
the NRL. He's a reporter.But the NRL get their technacles in the
Fox Sports. Now, anyone whodoes something gets stood down from their job
until they got a court and ifthey're proven innocent, like Jack de Bellam
was, what happens? What thehell is that? I mean, if

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I go out and get charged withsomething, I don't get stood down from
my job because I'm worried about publicperception. I'm worried about what people are
going to think. They've got theirtechnicles into the media now as well.
Kit was charged with something. He'sgonna get a court in December. He's
been stood down from Fox Sports.And maybe I'm mistaken about it. That's
because the pressure from the NRL.Absolutely, And and can I just say

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something that And we're talking about themedia, and we're talking about three sixty
And in terms of three to sixty, I've done some digging, and the
views of three to sixty, whichis a very very world of huge,
showy the most over other forties.Yeah, okay, so under forties or

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definitely under thirty fives are looking morefor a YouTube, shows for podcasts,
and I'll say it again, weare not we are not content creators.
We don't pretend to be. We'rejust three guys love in our company and
I love to talk about rugby league. But there's a lot of these youngsters,

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they say, under thirties who doa lot of podcasts, which I'm
bumping into now. Okay, andlook it's a little bit different to what
we do, okay, Um,but that's where someone like Anthony, we'll
probably get more value out of listeningto those shows than the our type of
show, you know what I mean. So Crawley and Buzz and all these
all these fossils, um, they'reon the wrong page. Especially Crawley's last

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rant about about the bell and thisand that is they're really off the page,
you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, we don't they have
an agenda. We don't. Wesimply don't have an agenda. We simply
get together when we do this andwe just talk the way we do and
we're not being filmed or recorded.Yeah, absolutely, And that's what we
said, that's what we said originally. We don't have to worry about being
censored. We don't have like Isaid earlier, we don't have to worry

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about offending anyone um because we justdon't care. We said what we think
where the pub tells the luck itis. That's it. Well, boy,
won't you ready up? I'm scared. I was scared. Now if
it's too loud, you're too old. Oh if we go, we're waiting

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for for anything to play video guys, and you should come through the audio
as well. Oh, well isthis coming to the audio? Are going

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for the broadcaster? So this isfootage of favorite shot skips that when you
look at it now, well that'sSel selling spoons whatever that we're using for
his clothes or what scip You playthe drums too? Boys, here we

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go. Let me tell you whatI'm sure. Oh I'm George and I'm
Nick, and welcome to the quickendstThis is the tells them what it is.
The last five months of us doingthe podcast, we have one point

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four thousand download It's over two klisteners all together, and that's just audio.
On YouTube, we've done nine pointfive thousand views. Onstag we've done
six point five thousand views, andnow is the big one. On TikTok
we've done sixty seven thousand views.What tells us total with eighty eight thousand

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views all platform, Boys, that'sa view views for a second. I'm
proud of you guys. You've accomplishedshowld. I'm your phone calls. It's
just fucking guy, what do youwant? Hello, legs coming here from

(21:47):
Bali he bes a little bit ofthe big food George, Sam and Tom
One wrong. I was doing amessage for the fucking burgess. Sorry for

(22:11):
George, Arthur and who are celebratingthere. I certainly know what the podcast
is like. It's made. It'senjoyable, boys, and no doubt you
guys are having a blast doing itand getting your thoughts and opinions out there.

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A little bit of animated debaters alwaysgood. Fifty episodes, huge milestone,
Keep going with it, keep enjoyingyourselves, and keep enjoying the footy.
Speaking of which, to almost kickofftime for Friday night foot Happy fiftieth
legends, keep up the good word. So sorry about that, just as

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I'm so tired you guys, andyou wouldn't be here like a fans.
Fact. Let's hear from them,hey, Nick, one time they see
three days or something. Here's ashoot a video to you, George and
Artie on this manster occasion your fiftiethpod, Tom short flies when you're having
fun and you guys need to behaving plenty of it, so that's great

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for you and of course, askedthe listener, it's also a great see
Nick gat from strength to strength fromhis day's playing sporty loves for those who
go on YouTube Nick super imposed onthe Parameters player, The Insights, Comedian
Value Passion and rugby league Therapy.A few reasons I listened to many John's

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podcast. No seriously, it's aquick hands and podcast. That's why I
listening to you guys. I nevertakes a team to deliver on such a
pod. And on your fiftieth fromme and all the listeners out there,
are huge things and appreciation to thecast and crew, Nick, George,
Emma, Anthony sanch to us anymany more years to come, as many

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years as Paramattis are going without toomany years. Support the great work,
guys, love your work and seasonjumping out Hey guys, Happy fiftieth anniversary
and happy ye episode. You loveyour work and how you always say as
it is. Looking forward to thenext fifty episodes. Oh well, congratulate

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you on your fiftieth episode, inour opinion, is the best thing little
dumb fellows. Congratulations and our wordfrom our favorite Egyptian George, Nick and
Arthur from the Pick Hands podcast,from the Paracade podcast. Just wishing you
guys, and congratulations actually on fiftyepisodes at Matt Gibson Achievement. Thank you

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very much for allowing me to bea guest on your show and also to
be a co host on one ofyour shows as well. I hope there
is another fifty plus episodes coming ourway. Keep up the great work,
and once again, congratulations and hopewe can catch up again soon. Hey,

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George, it's your best friend inChucky episode of the Pick Hands podcast.
Can you believe it or not?Most people stop recording after about episode
thirteen. I think there's a andthen you're probably in the top one or
two percent, So keep going.He's the next fifty. Can't wait to

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your h hundreds. Listen George andthe blows in the past. All right,
George, take care, have agreat episode. See yeah the wrong,

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brilliant shot everywhere, great commentary,very smart um. Just wishing you
boys a great bright future. Inyour podcast. We're here on in take
care aging just like a fine redone. God go George, good episode,

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favorite episode we just found. Yeah, that's blowing away. Thank you,
fantastic. What a tribute that was. That was inspiring Egyptian you've seen

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the early Egyptians cowboys the worlds.Thanks George's thanks it. We even we
even got wuld that come? Thatwas? That was a shock. Does
he listen to a part? Ohgod? That was? What were we
talking about? Wow? That wasawesome. Thanks thanks to everyone who took

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out the time to do that.Frank, I love the pick man.
I really look God in that pickum. Yeah, that was. That
was a nice surprise. That wasa very nice The boy Wonder did that
on his solo. I just madeone phone call and you know, well
phone call I made, UM,So thank you, thank you, Yeah,

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big fellow, we appreciate that.Um. He puts him more time
than than most of us. Um, he's up late at night cutting stuff
up and he actually cares, actuallycares about it. So um once again,
an, I'll take a take ourhat to you, and yeah,
everybody who spent time and got infront of a telephone and sent us UM

(28:34):
sent us the messages. Yeah,the short guy with the tall girl.
She's the one who plays for Grease. Oh, she plays for Grease.
That's nice. Um, she's goingto to Gress in a couple of months
to play qualifiers now Rugby League andfuture Greek Immortal. Another one she might
be she's she's um, she's playingTasha gul So. Her next step is

(28:57):
paramattaw let me seven eight. Ohwell, yeah, this is funny for
anyone who's listening to this episode forthe first time. We're all over the
place tonight. Normally were very structured. This is just all over the shop.
That was pretty That was amazing,inspiring, boot whatever. It was

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pretty full long. Yeah, andI didn't beside one phone call, I
didn't know what was coming. Thatwas pretty cool. That was pretty cool.
Yeah, let's let's pick up whatwe left off. Back to controversy.
Corner Roosters struggling. Apparently they're lookingat releasing Cooper Cronk and I forgot

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who the king Matt King making Um. They seem to have gone off the
rails since the whole Jason Roles fiasco. All the guy did was apparently have
a conversation about a potential full timerole for next season, and that was
enough for them to cut him loose. And you know, Nick Politis has

(30:06):
shot himself in a foot a coupleof times this year by trying to stick
his chest out and it's backfired.What what do you guys think? Yeah,
it's bizarre. Why Cooper Cronk andMatt King, Um they're going to
be let go and they're going tobring in two rookies basically to boys coordinate
and and what's his name? NathanFriend? Nathan Friend. Yeah, we

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haven't coached before we first gigs forthem, so interesting to replace Cooper Cronk
is a grand on a winner.The thought process behind that is what George
has mentioned a couple of times inrecent weeks about how you talked about the
roosters haven't recruited the right personality right, And I think the thought behind that

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is, let's get some rooster's DNAback in the fold. Doesn't get any
better than Boyd Cordinal or Nathan Friend. But I don't know if that's going
to solve the problems. But what'srecruitment got to do with Cronkin King?
They're just assistant coach that look I'dbe happy to take Cooper Cron paramount.
Yes. And Georgia. Yeah,you know what with the roosters U and

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last week they're terrible. All theOrigin players, Um, they're all terrible.
Um. I think it's a hiccup. I don't worry about it,
as I keep on saying, Ithought they would have come with this year.
But in Robot we trust. Ithink next year there will be a
different team. I can't see themhaving two years in a row of poor,

(31:36):
poor performances. But in saying that, um, this year is a
little bit concerning. They've got somegood reinforcements coming as well. Yeah,
they've made some good signings well Spencillaneous, Yes, absolutely absolutely, that's not
the problem. The problem is sevensix um and the forwards collapsed pretty easy.
But it's not that they haven't gotthe forwards to do the job.

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It's the Fords. They're not doingthe job. And if you're if you
want a thirty four year old guyto to lead the pack and to be
the mongol of the pack and noone's supporting him, how long? How
long more? Can how long?Much more years can he do? He
was He's signed for next year atthe start of the year, they'll adamant

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they're going to let him go.He had signed for he was going to
got the Lanzka now and that's becauseof Robot's connection with the We've got the
lanz Yeah, okay, um obviouslyneeding, so he didn't want to go
either really, but he would havewent to extend his career. Um he
signed. They've signed him again fornext year. Maybe not in panic because

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he's going to give you what he'sstill got form. But you know what,
he's still got form. On theother end two with the high shots
and suspensions. You know, look, he can he's learned how to ride
that line, know what I mean. So he's yeah, you know,
if he gets it wrong, yeah, but let's see what happens next year.

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But it's concerning, you know whatit is. But I follow the
Roosters closely because I'm a sort ofthem, my second team, to be
honest. And they lost Nathan Friendand Corner, the two assistant coaches,
unexpectedly. They both retired much earlierearlier, and I think their natural born
leaders. Those guys were really reallystrong in the leadership group called them and
losing them to all of a sudden. They have to replace quickly, and

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I think Brandon Smith was there asort of replace friend, but it hasn't
really worked out. But there hasn'tbeen really another guy to replace Corner Cordner's
absence, so I think they justneed a couple more leaders in there to
help out steer the ship a littlebit more. But they'll get there.
I'm sure they'll get there. InRobo, I trust he reminds me of
my favorite coaching at Liverpool, YogenClop where they'll have three magic seasons and

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then they have a little bit ofa dip and then then they got back
up again. So this is justtheir did year. They'll bounce back.
He was it fair to say NathanFriend, he was on the other side
of thirty, right, was he? I think he was. I think
you was boyd Court twenties ties,the beastiness you have to come the Bessels.
I mean, with boy Court,I don't think anyone saw that coming.
But with Nathan Friend, he's afair to say maybe they didn't plan

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ahead real well. Well, BrandonSmith was supposed to sort of slot in,
but he hasn't worked out. Thatjust hasn't worked. George called it
last year, said he's not ahooker, but Vils was supposed to be
the next guy, but he gotinjured. Well let him let him go
because of the injuries. Well he'sat the Gold Coast, is exactly.
And then they just got Brandon andSmith as a quick fix and we haven't

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got verrils will get him and itjust hasn't worked out. He's been he's
been a miserable failure so far.Smith unfortunately, he hasn't a goner.
And you know what, can heplay hooker? Yes? Is he?
Is he an elite hooker? No? He's a better lock forward, isn't
he He's an elite player, yes, But is he an elite hooker?
No? Okay, can you makehim into I don't know. Maybe maybe

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you can make him into a loudehooker, but I haven't seen it.
It's two different styles. Mean,you got the Robo and the Bellamy.
Maybe you've got to by the Tommygets adjust to the Bellamy didn't like him
at hooker either though, Yeah,I know he didn't, but I think
he's still got time. Yeah,let's not forget Robot. Uh with this

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not with this team. It wasa few years back now, but they
won a wooden spoon as well,and then they bounced back to premierships after
that. Let's not ride him offjust yet. Yeah, and their problem
with the Halves too, with SamWalker he got I think yeah, and
I think Luke que I think he'soff contract next season. Yeah, he's
got one more year, so they'vegot to start thinking about do they renew
him. He's because he's getting upthere too. Quit. He's a quality

(35:37):
player, but I think he's oneof those players now that um like a
Mitchell Peace or a Cooper Cronk orsomeone that goes to a struggling club to
provide a bit of leadership. Yeah. I think he's at that point of
his career. I think his bestdays are probably behind him. Yeah.
He's won what two premierships, onewith the Roosters, one with South Is
that right? That's right? Yeah, so he's had a stellar career.

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I would love the Roosters to pickup Bud Sullivan if he's not going to
be at Sir George, I'd lovehim. Perfect that the Roosters j Jordan
Sullivan love him. I never thoughtof that. That's perfect, would be
perfect. He'll be talking to theTigers. Apparently it's a done dealing apparently,
And this doesn't make any sense tome at all. Who's meeting with

(36:21):
the Knights as well? But they'reso stocked in the halves that they don't
need another half. But I thinkwith the Tigers at least, I was
saying yesterday, it's pretty much adone deal. Someone to shame, uh
David Rickie. I think it wassaid he spoke to someone at the Tigers
and they assured him into dune deal. The shame. I'm devastated. Yeah,
absolutely, how do you feel?Just told us? But anyway,

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you know, Ben Hunt, tome, he's had one good year and
that was with Whidop controlling the ship. Since Whidips moved on, he's controlled
everything. We haven't made a finals. I'm not a fan of he's at
a half back. I just wantedhim at hooker and that would have been
the expand for me for the futuregoing going forward for next year, having
him at hooker and having Bud andAmmony in the halves and Sloane or Bomax

(37:07):
now at fullback. That's all bankingon his Saints fans. But now Sullivan's
pushed out, we've got a guythere who can't close the game. The
Manly Game was a good example.We should have won that game, but
every time we got the ball thelast it was just nothing. Nothing happens
with him the bomb or he'll justrun it like it's I'm just getting sick
of it. This is all ShaneFanny, and Shane wants him there.

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But look in Flanna, we trusthe must have plans for something. But
losing Bud Sullivan is you know what. I couldn't believe it when I heard
the first thing, when I heardthat Budd's moving on or Shane doesn't one
thought of you think, well,I'm only still got the court coasting happening,
and that's not a short thing.He could still end up in jail,
so we could lose Ammony and Sulomon. Is it Flanny, because no,

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no, because what I'm saying ishe's obviously going through the club now
and preparing for November right preseason.Um, if he's picking up vibes that
someone isn't holly in it, thenhe probably will leave. Show him the
door, because there's nothing kind ofplayer we want now. I don't know
if Sullivan's like I don't know howcommitted he is. I don't know was

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he asked to let was he shownthe door or did Flanning and think this
got This kid's not committed to Idon't know. The only thing I canonymously
think of is Saint George had beenburnt before with another good player which we
had coming through called Cole Stanley,who we thought we had high hopes for
him, but he got injury afterinjury after he retired at a young age.
So unless they see something similar withJaden Sullivan where he might have those

(38:37):
problems where he might be injury prone, that's the only reason I can think
of that they would let him go. But apart from that, they had
a lot of high hopes of thisguy. They resigned him for extended years
ahead of Sloan and Anemony. Thisguy had three more years to go,
where the other guys are off afternext year or this year. So I'm
surprised they're letting him go. ButI don't know. There must be something
there is. What's his name saidhe wants to halfback. Hunt says he

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wants to play halfback. They wentto Button said, well, no,
you're going to play reggies. He'snot five eight. It's been working at
five eight and then he got injuredand then the Mooney came in after that.
But isn't I know, he's gota court case, but isn't he
aren't they grooming him for five?He was, but then he got dropped
the Reggies and then Sullivan's been playingthere and then and then he got injured

(39:22):
and then Maine came back in.But for him to move on, it's
got to be a directing. There'ssomething, there's got to be the different
Flanna. Yeah, yeah, wellthat is cool. Flanna one two g
B said that he's asked. He'sgiving him permission to ask to look around.
But what he gets back, Flannais still going to make the last

(39:42):
call. So he still want tonot release him because I still have to
release him. They still got twomore years. But I'm thinking, I
don't know, but if we releasehim and get his son Kyle, look,
no no offense. The kid isa good kid, but good hook.
He's playing good at He's playing goodat nine, but he's not a
Sullivan. Sullivan's potential, Joan.I think that's anyway, whenever a new

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coach comes in, they always haveto shake the tree and and and you
know, more often than not there'salways good players that a part of that.
Yeah, but you know, heobviously has a method behind. You
know, he's got a plan,that's what he's doing. And it sucks
when you lose a good young talent, I know. And he's got he's
got form, he's got success.So he's won a Grand Formal, so

(40:25):
he knows what it takes. Hetook he took Quina from was it was
it second or third? Last?Exactly right? So the premiership in three
four years. Yeah, and hefixed up their pathways yeah yeah, um,
and and he knows exactly what's underneath, exactly what they forget. He
spent a lot of time in theDragon, so he knows, he knows
the system. He knows the cluba hierarchy, if we believe, if

(40:47):
we believe the Tigers coach Tim Sheen'sapparently they're stacked. Yeah, apparently we've
got a couple of really really thatabout dragons. Yeah, so how would
he know? On that pod nottalking about um Penrith youngster and they said,
you know Campbelltown, Um, Campbelltown'sgot heaps as well. He goes,

(41:09):
if you think we've got heaps becausethey bot up Illawarra and Campbelltown.
But he goes just what the dragonshave gone, unbelieving. But dragons have
never had a problem with the wholeIllawarra region, the whole problems. Yeah,
problem problem. Have some faith,I know, looking forward to Flanner,

(41:30):
I've got to trust the guy.Yeah, I do too. I've
said it a thousand times. I'dlove to have him at power. Um.
But yeah, well it'll be interestingto see how it unfolds, especially
over the you know now that we'regetting to the point of the season where
we know, you know, anotherweek or two, we'll know that none
of our teams are gonna make itthe semis right, so um, now

(41:52):
that's when they can come out andstart shaking the tree bit because there's nothing
really to lose at this point.Is there a stop now on today's going
to other clubs? Wins? Isthat freeze come win? It was it
was I think it was June thirtyyear. Yeah, okay, so no,
no, it's no job you cansign for because remember how last year
Melbourne got off a luoma the lastfew weeks and he played for I think

(42:15):
you can do it if both clubsagree, but that was alone. That
was alone. That was alone.Yeah, that wasn't. Imn't going to
even do that now. But he'sin the funny just quickly, you know,
we talk about Yeah, earlier thisseason, not too long, they've
been hunt asked for a release andit ended up getting shut down and he
got crucified in the media for ittoo. Right, But then we see

(42:37):
these when a club wants to leta player go. It's okay, it
works both ways, isn't it.You know? Um? Yeah, anyway,
Um, well, the club ownsthe contract, so they have every
right, not the player. Theplayer signs three years, he's stuck for
three years, but then then youcan bitch and scream and get a release.

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Well I haven't seen either one ofyou get pissed off yet, So
I'll do my best to fron makinghappen now because I love watching Georgie as
well. So the Melbourne Storms celebratedtheir premierships. Now, he's a funny
thing. If if I can justgo first and then I'll then I'll turn

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it over to you guys. Um, you know who did they beat?
You know? Seven? Was itmainly mainly? Okay? You know nine?
They beat paramount, so um,I honestly didn't have a problem with
it. They were stripped to thetitle. For anyone who doesn't know,
they were caught cheating the salary capthat I was stripped to the titles.
And when they had their whatever itwas last weekend, the Old Boys weekend

(43:42):
or whatever, they celebrated those twopremierships, which technically they do not have.
But the way I look at itis I think it was more just
the players involved. They won thecorn they you know, they trained every
day, they played every game,and they won the Grand Final and I
was stripped off from later and yesthey had a team that had an unfair
advantage and all that. To me, it's just a storm in a teacup.

(44:06):
But a lot of other people don'tsee it that way. So I'm
curious to hear what you guys.And I hate it. I hate that
does my head in bad. Itshows a lack of disrespect for the NR
rule. They care about the clubonly and not the N rule. I
would love every club to do it. And in twenty years time we see
Premier winners zero zero zero zero zerozero, but celebrating internally. So that's

(44:27):
okay. It's it's rubbish. Ireckon every club should just go for a
man, just cheat and let theNRUL have no winners for the next twenty
years, because that's what Melbourne aredoing. They're saying it's okay to do
it man, because we can stillcelebrate. I've always said, and Anthony,
you can make a short out ofthis if your life. It's been
my life motto. You know,win if you can, lose if you
must, but always cheat. AndI don't know just to do it in

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front of Paramatta team that were oneof those teams that missed out. We
didn't seem to fire last year.It still it's too much. It's like
rubbing it in. That really sucked. And if the NDRU want to make
a stand, they should just putit in the history books Winner Neil,
Winner Neil, and just have theminor premiers in George and the minor Premier
of two thousand and seven and havethem as the winners. I didn't give

(45:15):
a ship. That's terrible, justthe second George before we turn over the
year. I'm curious to get yourthoughts on this, and I love how
the media always presented Cameron Smith firesback. He didn't fire back. They
asked him about it, and heraised what I thought was a valid point.
He said, he goes, Icompletely understand how people perceive it and
see it, and that's totally fine, he goes, But the way we

(45:35):
kind of look at it internally is, yeah, there's a few of those
guys obviously Cameron Smith, Slater,you know, Kronk, but there's also
other players in the squad who theyonly ever had one shot at playing at
Grand Final and and that was theirmoment, and the lesser known players now
now obviously yeah it was stripped andall that, they've still got their medal

(45:57):
at home and learning enjoyed that moment. Yeah, you're right, Cameron.
What about Nathan nine Marsh, Shemissed out on a whole premiership. He's
never won one in his whole career. Yeah, trained the whole year,
Paramount trained the whole year, andwe'll rob but they had the extra advantage
having players they shouldn't have had himtheir team. So Primier River trained as
hard as they did and didn't getthe rest result because of the chief fair

(46:21):
point. By the way, Ijust want to say as well, a
lot of and we spoke about thisbefore a lot of people said, oh,
you know, they were stripped tothe team that they beat in the
grand finals should be handed the premiership. As as a Niels fan, I
don't want any hand me downs.There's no way I want to be handed
a premiership like that. But ifyou're going to do that, if the
if and they didn't, if theyall were going to do that, then

(46:45):
it should have gone to Saint Georgebecause they won the minor premiership. That's
the best team of the season,in any season, that's the best team
of the year. In fact,we're the only country when he comes to
sport that doesn't get my first pastthe post. Mind you, it's much
more exciting having a final series ina grand final. But George, what
are your thoughts? You know what, I'm I don't know. I'm perplexed.

(47:06):
It's such a long time ago andit's none of my teams involved,
so I'm numb. But I hadjust changed my mind. Paramatta and mainly
was it. Yeah, Paramatta mainlydid train exactly the same as the Storm.
Um you know what, they thinkthat they won the comp and you
know what, technically maybe they didwin the comp, but um they were

(47:30):
they were over the cap so theydidn't win the comp. Now I don't
even know how they've got a trophythere. Replicas, they're replicas and they
got one in because they think they'vewon. And well there you go.
That's that's the mistake right there.And I or should have said no,
no, no, no, no, no ring because they've got a ring,
no ring, no trace because itdidn't It wasn't uncovered until much much
later, was it. Okay?Yeah, like in twenty and ten was

(47:51):
when it happened. You know,you know what Melbourne do do this a
little bit and I'm shocked at umJohn Crease allowed allowed that to happen.
They love flaunting things. They loveflaunting their their advantages because clear clearly,
clearly that they've got advantages in rugbyleague like Manly had it back in the

(48:14):
eighties with Arthurson. Mainly Melbourne havegot and we've all right, they get
advantages because they play out of acity which is a non rugby league city,
so you know they gave them advantage. They keep on giving them advantages.
Um, but you know what youdid it they've flaunted because guess what
all you do is open account ofwarnings. They could have the old boys

(48:37):
there with Foult the trophies. Youknow what's funny, I'm going to go
off topic for a second. Hejust reminded me of something. You're saying
that they've got unfair advantages. Iassume you're saying they've got more lenient here
from the NR or whatever they get, marketing. Whatever. Brings me back
to the Gold Coast Titans who wentbankrupt a few years ago, six,

(48:59):
seven years ago, whatever it was. And this always sticks out to me
so um, and then maybe they'rein a different position now, but at
that time you have a club likethe West Tigers who were really struggling financially
right, but they were doing everythingby the book. They were doing their
best and they were struggling, andtheir performances show who reflected in their roster

(49:22):
in their performances, you know.Um, Gold Coast went bankrupt and the
NRL bought them out, and allof a sudden they had a nine million
dollars salary cap at their disposal.So the team is doing everything right,
the club is doing everything right,and struggling gets nothing and the team that

(49:44):
goes bust gets bailed out and givennine million, and that's when they signed
Cherry Evans, who ended up backflippinganyway. But how does that work?
I don't know that. You knowwhat I mean? They find the coast
as ums is here evil you know, logistically they've got to have it there
um or think God, they gotbrought out by and and can I say

(50:07):
the owner is on face face toface on our roal station. Watch it
the current owner, the current andit's heard not him. I don't know
their name. Sorry, actually sawit advertised last time, but I haven't
watched it. Watch her because thenyou'll see, um, let's say a

(50:27):
gutsy I think, And and they'regoing real well like that. You know.
I'm not knocking the fact that they'rebailed out. I'm knocking the fact
that the West Tigers might have beenbetter off if they just went bust and
then all of a sudden they wouldthey would they would have been back in
black on the thanks to the governingbody. Where where after the grand Fauna.
We're going to present a show,um tracking let's say, the plight

(50:52):
of the West Western suburbs and tosee how they've been stuffed around from day
one, how they how they Harryhas been carved up given to Saint George,
given to a lot of other Well, let's not forget you left fun.
Those clubs were incentivized to merge aswell. They've paid like four millions
or five million dollars or something.West Tigers. Yeah, yeah, look,

(51:15):
I don't know. I don't knowabout that in terms of the gold
Coats part of it. But um, with the storm, we'll get back
to the point where the storm.They shouldn't have done it. They did
it. Let's move on. Yeah, I mean I didn't have a problem
with it, but I shouldn't certainly. Yeah, I can certainly understand people
who did. They must have knownthat they're gonna they're gonna aggravate people.

(51:36):
They must have Sure, let's turnit down. That's my point. They're
disrespectful, they ain't care. It'sall about them, and they don't care
about the rest. We call Icall them purple treats for a reason.
Yeah, that's that's that's that's likeeverything I said half an hour ago.
Pathetic. I don't care help people. Yeah, they extended the middle fingers
to right. I don't have anissue with it. Um, let's talk

(52:00):
about your cousin. One pathways gooldpassways field Goold has done it again.
This time he's taking aim at LatrollMitchell. Why they can't win to come
with him? He's not a biggame player. I think he forgets that
the kids got two Premierships under hisbelt already, a World Cup state of
origin. I think he's kind ofbeen there, done that. I think,

(52:22):
do you guys think? I thinkI think one Grand Final against Canberra
where look, it looked like Camberawe're going to get over the top of
him. The last ten minutes they'llcamp on the trial line. Remember that
that kick that went Yeah, someonedropped at this and that they'll russ will

(52:42):
battling and some hooker decides to hitLatraw on the blind so it makes a
break and passes it. I don'tknow who he passes it curmember now,
but scored a try, big biggame player, I think so Phil.
I think Phil, maybe maybe theday you're you're having a root came out
with what do you what do youthink his purposes? Oh yeah, the

(53:05):
week the week before he took cameat the Broncos. He's got a for
this one May. He just wantsto fire up the Broncos and South because
he knows that them two teams arethe only ones who can meet Penrith.
I don't think he wants Prith towin the third seriously. Um, because
he builds a team. Oh yeah, of course he built everyone. He
built down a roll, he builtthe storm. He built the storm apparently

(53:27):
flew over when he and he builtthe storm. He takes Twitter for every
He also brought hook there, rememberexact clear exactly brought in hook Yeah,
um yeah, I don't know.That's the only thing I can think of.
But he's ludicrous. What does hekeep bagging other teams? Just it's
funny because one I can't remember whoit was, but one of the South
officials, one of the yeah seewhat chairman or something, not rusty,

(53:52):
but one of the anyway, oneof them came out with a statement saying,
you know what we just said?Yeah, yeah, the trolls done
this and that, and he goes, um, I think we're all starting
to get a little bit secret.Feel gold Yeah, taking shots at everyone.
He should he should be focusing onhis own backyard. Feel good to
a champion. I got to he'sgot such a good vision. Those three

(54:13):
assistant coaches at Penrith, he gotbad. He got where that goes to
the Warriors and look at the Warriors, Phil go to New Zealand and let
the sea from New Zealand teach youhow to build a team because you're clueless,
buddy, if you are absolutely clueless, honestly, exactly sixty six percent,

(54:37):
he got two out of three.Is there a possibility that he's doing
Wayne Bennett slash Ricky shoot stunt totake the focus off of Cannaby got putting
it on himself. Oh yeah,not necessarily Cannery, but Cameron Seraldo.
Yeah, yeah, he's that's exactlywhat he's doing. But I kind of

(54:59):
drawed the your attention. But doesn'tthat just shut up? That's any you
know, you know what he's he'sa good salesman. iRED he called a
couple of weeks ago. He's agood salesman. He's trying to get pressure
away. But I called it.We're going to see in three years,
you know what the problem is,um when they go really bad in the
third year and they're still in thebottom of the table with a brand new

(55:19):
team. Okay, he can sackus arouald it, but who's going to
sack him? Yeah? If ifthey sack Serroualdo. That's two cages in
a row that he's appointed sacked aftertwo years. You know what, who'll
hold onto dear life? Because ofcourse he pointed him. But you know
what results will show and if twelveis the best you can do in three

(55:40):
or four years of a complete newteam, okay, we'll see how good
because because because everybody's expecting them topfour year build, you know, you
know um and you do from thebottom. And it goes back to Trent
Barrett as well. Who's the equivalentof the Dragons Hardy, who's your football
operations whatever? Ben Harron and he'sdo you ever see him in a single

(56:07):
and short standing next to the coachat training every week? You see footage
you feel good at training in histraining gear standing next to Salto fair enough.
I mean he's got a wealth ofknowledge to offer. But at some
point is the coach kind of hamstrung? Yes, because he's got this guy
beside him and he has to pleasehim. You know. Yeah, well

(56:29):
there's a reason he picked on becausehe can control him, can control Yeah.
I really feel sorry in all thiswhole can everything. I really feel
sorry for doing pay because he hadlesbian act. He had a meaning,
he had the back line set ready. All that to do was plague a
few holes. I think you've gotand sold all these guys and replaced him
with who I think pay had theworst, that's the wrong word, the

(56:52):
weakest, the weakest line up.He was getting someone. I think he's
outperformed everyone exactly since him. Yes, he mean me part of did a
great job. He did. Youcan tell what Mick Potter did. He
didn't turn him into better players.He just turn their attitudes around. They
became better players. Yeah, youknow, Void Bulldocks fans wanted someone with
their DNA in the job. Dayhad the DNA and was getting there.

(57:16):
First thing he said was I wantto I'm sick of looking over the fence
for players, which is what Good'sdoing. Now. I want to look
within and I want to build ourjuniors. And he was doing that,
he was doing it, and nowthey brought Guild in and what's he done.
Yeah I get that too. Iget that because he does want to
start from the bottom and build upand all that. But these youngsters,

(57:39):
it'll take five years to happen.So he's got to he's got to pull
together a squad now, a layerof experience for these youngsters to grow into.
Otherwise it's just going to be playersgetting into grade too early, falling
over, you know what I mean. Well, the way the way I
see if a junior goes into thein a resistem he has two three bad

(58:00):
games and they just punt him.Well, they did that to Flanno.
They did it with almany, theydid it with a name and all they
don't get a chance. That's why, that's why I think what I think
he's doing. He's signing a bunchof players, you know, apart from
the big names like you know,the the what's his name? Takiaho.

(58:22):
You know, a lot of theseguys won't be there in two three years.
It's almost like a stop gap becauseyou need to kind of put a
layer there to help nurture the youngstersto grow into I think, yeah,
so how do you how do youwork out let's get rid of Amarilla Avarillo.
But a minute, we'll go bytaff same. Yeah, I know,

(58:43):
but UM say, but how muchof us when you're younger? But
how much? And I don't know, by the way you might, but
how much of it is getting ridof Avarillo. You know, he might
have wanted to go to the Dolphins. I mean, no offense, but
you know, rather than Belmore,I'd prefer to live in Brisbane, you
know, and get get a startingspot each week, and maybe it's in

(59:05):
a different position, chance to playunder Wayne Bennett. It might not just
all be Canna be released him.Maybe he had a desire to leave.
I don't know, by the way, no, no, I know is
that um he talks about homegrown tellingthere you go there it is right there?
Did they hang on to the otherone? What's his name? The
other he's talking to the cowboys,but salmon because there's a good chance he

(59:30):
might stay, right, Yeah,it's good chances. And you're right if
they both leave, that's that's toohomegrown, that alimony from there. Yeah.
Anyway, Look, I don't understandwhat he's doing. I don't get
it. Time will tell, butI called it early in the year.
Third year ship. Next year wouldbe the same, and then the other

(59:52):
year when she's still hit in thefan. Okay, we'll see what's going.
Well, who's going to pull triggersonto what I'll be I'll be hunting
him like like a hundred unfortunately Hooky, they put in a much better performance
on all Yeah, they did theydid it, really, they did that.

(01:00:12):
You guys called out before Gus's visionum to let me ask you guys,
you know I having clearly Kevin WaltersAndrew Webster, who's the Coach of
the Year. I don't understand why. Clearly I know that. I know
Webster's had a fantastic year, soas as Walters. But people got to
remember that two years ago clearly missedout on the award. It went to

(01:00:36):
Bellamy. I don't know why hedidn't even win the compn and then last
year went to Peyton. Now thiswill be clearly his third gear potentially winning
a comp and in three years hehasn't won Coach of the Year. Doesn't
make sense. He should have gotit two years ago. But the end
rule got to give this guy anaward because this guy is going to be
an elite coach. I reckon whenhe finished, he is he is.
He is coaching the best team inthe competition. They look unstoppable. Yeah,

(01:00:59):
now correct me if I'm wrong.Did he get the Coach of the
Year at the Warriors when he gothim to the grand Father I don't know.
I don't think he might. Thatwas ten eleven years ago exactly.
He might have. I'm not sure. I can't remember. But I'm surprised
he hasn't got it in the lastthree years, even four years, because
even before they met, they lostthe Grand Final, so he got him
into exactly. So if that's notgood enough, then Bellamy and Bennett have

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never got three in a row.So he might do what they haven't done.
And let's not forget what Ivan clearies. I won't let me ask you
guys, what's his greatest achievement sofar as a coach is that I haven't
cleared. George knows what I'm goingto say. I haven't cleared. Yeah,
he's talking. What's his greatest achievementso far as a coach? He's
the he's done, he's done,He's done the impossible. Yeah, Brooks

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Back of the Year exactly, thatsupersedes the premier exactly. Let me say
it again for those of you didn'thear. Luke Brooks one dam half back
of the year. This is thecoach that was sacked by good I've got
to get back there, but don'tdo it. But that's true. That's
my point, what's yours? Whodo you get it? And they had

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it tough this year because they hadno No. I agree, Ivan is
the best coach in the comp atthis moment. Okay, but Webster,
who should get the Coach of theyear. Yeah, it's it's you can
And then the reason I say that, I'll tell you why I say that
is because he's not only not onlychanged the way they play, he's changed
the way they think. He's changedculture, He's changed you know, a

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whole whole swag of things, youknow what I mean. Ye, Ivan's
the best coach. There's no doubtyou can make it. You could,
like you can. I mean,I'm leaning on Webster, but you can
make a case for all. Imean, Ivan needs to get Coach of
the Year for longevity, Webster needsto get Rookie Coach of the Year.
And Kevin Walters needs to get theU turn Coach of the Year. Yeah,

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in saying that, Kevin's the Broncosalone. If Webster gets if Webster
gets to the Warriors to the finalsagain next year, then he's got to
be He's got to be the topcandidate because he's done a two years in
a row. And that's when you'vegot to give them one year. It
could be a one year one.One thing that I am happy about is
I really like all three of them, and I like seeing him do well,
absolutely, especially Walters. I thoughthe was unfairly under a lot of

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pressure and that's the other thing.He's been operating probably under the most pressure.
Yeah, as well the big club, Yeah, well, a lot
of expectation. It's the real Madridof the Rugged League. And now they've
got and now they've got their crosstown rivals there as well. Yeah,
with big big Bennett at the helm. Yeah, so just one more point

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boys, one point there. Nowthe season isn't over yet, right,
so we've got five more rounds.If South Sydney finished in the top four.
I don't see what the Metrio isnot even in the conversation either,
because he's taking over a Bennett's side, and you know what happens when teeth
just come after Bennett. How manyhow many years has you been in the
job now? One is his first, isn't second? Second? Second?

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Well, I don't know. Ithink maybe Demetro as the fourth best coach.
You know what conversation you should bein the conversation. Um, I
don't, but wait till the endof the year. If they don't make
noday, it's not that based ontoday. You can't seriously say, see
us based on where they are today. That wasn't a very convincing win over
the last place Tigers, right,No, I can't. I can't justify

(01:04:27):
giving him Coach of the year rightnow to I mean, ten days ago
they had a shocker we're talking about, you know, and they're not and
they're not sitting in the top four. Yeah, yeah, you never still
times, but they were in firstplace two months ago. More yet,
Um, looking in terms of theCoach of the year, that's that's the
conversation. Yeah, I can't.I'm sorry. I can't put Demetri in

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there, not with those guys.My opinion. Um, that's just my
opinion. Um, Ken mckinness,you made three hundred and seventy eight eighty
four tackles. It's a record tacklingmachine. He was, I remember,
Sir George's the always top the tacklingcounting. The guy's a machine. Um,
would you give him a rest?I don't know. Would you?

(01:05:13):
Would you pull him off for tenminutes to give him a breath. I
think fifty was saying that it waslooking at him, but it didn't look
like he needed a rest, likeyou just keep putting him on, leaving
him on. But feel Good saidsomething that was interesting. He it wasn't
just eighty four tackles, it wasa lot of those tackles. Was him
springing out of marker to put pressureon you know, we're not talking about
fifty flops. Yeah, it's ahigh, high work rate, high energy

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stuff. Yeah, and you knowthe Corona forwards should look back at that
and say, you know, thisgot four tackles. What were they doing?
And exactly That's that's the point Imake now. Him making eighty four
tackles is an amazing feat. Andlike you said, though, either him

(01:05:58):
shooting to get somebody or um insort of a half brake situations. So
it's him doing the tackle, noone helping. Okay, So that's amazing,
Okay, but that screams something aboutCronella. If someone has to make
eighty four tackles, that says that'sa problem. That says more than yeah,

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more about Cronola than than what itsays about Top eighteen. This season.
Did you do any miss tackles.That's a good question question. I'd
love to know if you did know, even if you did three or four
four, because while you guys aretalking, I'm going to have a law.

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Okay, what's what's the next topic? While you look the game?
Let's run through him? Um,let's run through so round twenty two,
I'll run through the scores. Guysjump in wherever. So the first opened
with the Broncos thirty two points toten over the Roosters, thoughts. Carrigan

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broke, he's duck. Yeah,they still a team run over to him
like, that's camaraderie, right right. Yeah, so that's what I want
to say. And you know,first half twenty points that's what set up
the wind for the Broncos were played. George any thoughts on that. The

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second game for Friday Night Rabbitos thirtytwo Tigers, latrolls back, latrolls back.
They did what they had to do. But I didn't think it was
really convincing. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't. But Alex Johnson bagged
his another hat trick. He's atry scoring machine, I know. Yeah,
so that that was a good highlightfor me. That was pretty good
to see. But where's tigers hungin there? Come on, no,

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you've got to give them credit.There are only two points out of it
with ten or fifteen to go,so, um, you know, credit
to the Tigers for putting in agood effort. If it wasn't for a
Cameron Murray seventy fifth minute try seventyfifth minute, that is five minutes to
go, that's what sealed the game. So they were in until then.
So got on. Yeah, don'tworry about the next game. We'll move
on to set Now. The stormforty six eight or sixteen, that was

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a hammering Wow. You know what, can I just say something? Um?
The boy wonder Um has heard aboutall these salaries being paid. You
know one meme month point four.He asked me, Dad, Um,
when they give when they give somebodyone point four, what's the difference between
them and someone who gets five hundredthousand dollars? Guess what we saw?

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The difference from a one point fourmillion dollar player or three of them?
Yeah, okay, a certain halfbake, a certain hooker, and a
certain five a m that's the differenceright there. Um. Honestly, you
take those three out, Nicole anduse you'll you'll be coming away with the
points. But can I just saythat the disappointing, very disappointing. Yeah,

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you know what early looked. Okay, but I don't know, um
and I don't. I honestly don'tbelieve Storm are that good? You know
what I mean? They're still clankynow because um, I said a month,
Yeah, we'll see about that.Because um, like I said,
because um, what's the hooker's name? The sorry, the halfbacks name again?

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For who? Because Jerone Hughes decidedto have one of one of those
games and the defense was so soft. Yes, it was very safe.
Did you see monsters last try?Yeah, it was terrible. Say say
no more, no one thing?You want to say that one. Brad
Arthur celebrated two hundred and fifty gamein charge. Can I can I ask

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the question, um, can bredArthur win a comb? How many times
have I entered that? Yes orno? Um? Well, I don't
know. I don't think they canknow. That's all I need to know.
Because someone asked me about the nextgame. We talked we're going to
talk about the Knights, okay,and we heard about the issues with O'Brien

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and then the question, was O'Brienwin a comp And I had to say
no. I don't say it.I say had to say no. But
you know what, no one doesn'tmean that he won. No one can
win it until they win it.Yeah. Right, it's the first time
for everything I do. But thedifference between our Brian and Brad Arthur his
author has been there ten years,okay, and he's gotten Yeah, he

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got to the Grand Final, buthe's also in ten years made it past
week two of the semis once?Really last year? Or really was it
the first time he's gone last week? What about the Cowboys? When when
he was last year? No?But wasn't another year when he's got up
to the last game. For thepast week two have won the first week

(01:10:48):
of the finals. Last week twoalways won the first weekend. Wow,
geez, now, George, youasked me again. No, I agree
with you. I agree with you, and I think I think Flanner was
an opportunity missed. Yeah, anyways, Nights on fire camera real disappointing.
Nights twenty eight points to six overcamera in camera always brings a smile on

(01:11:13):
my face. When I watched thehalves of tossing game the control for those
guys. I don't know. I'dlove to see just in training. I
reckon, i'd be sing the ballboys. I don't know. But Ponga
again, he's coming, Batman.How good is he? What a what
a what a move it was forhim to pull out of Origin because Billy

(01:11:34):
Slater did call him for Game three. Yeah, and he said, you
know yeah he BILLI slated himself saidit, he said, I did call
him, but Calin elected to tostick with his decision. And it's paying
dividends. You know what folds aQueenslander. I would be really hoping that
next year Kaitlin plays five eight andthen if he goes well, then you've

(01:11:59):
got the potential of having Reese Washat fullback. Killing can't ponger a five
eight? That is dynamic having thosetwo in the side. They would just
carving yourself. I was up,let me, let me address something because
he wasn't in the room. Theability for this man on my left to
pick a youngster, he told me, and he told him. We heard

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it at Bradman Best He told mebest Um I was going to be an
Origin player maybe three or four yearsago. Nicola I didn't know him and
I didn't care about it. Ijust saw a normal, short, fat
guy who's maybe yes or maybe not, a first grader. Okay, I've
been absolutely ripping Pongera apart. I'vegot egg all over my face. Okay,

(01:12:44):
what he's done the last month's nothingshort of amazing. What what Reese
has done. And you know howI feel about Ese Walsh, He's done
the same thing. He's turned hisback loan into fire. It's electric of
the time they they are speak theball out. And here's the reason,
because because the good thing about Pongayis he can play as a decoy and

(01:13:08):
as a as a shoulder shoulder runner. I guess what who benefits from it
best? Best? Yeah, andguess and guesses given the passes the sledger.
So you know what I noticed,and I haven't picked this up.
You know, Tyson, there's someplayers that makes everybody around them better.

(01:13:34):
They don't. They're sometimes necessarily notthe best player in the team, and
sometimes I at lo jt okay,but he's not. Okay, But for
some reason, when he runs onthe team on with the team, he
makes everybody around him better. SoI'm convinced the chemistry. So let me
ask you, where does Jack Homerfit into the equation? I don't know.

(01:13:56):
I don't know because the control freak. Um tell you what I like
about the control freak. He's changedhis game to support Okay, Ponga best
and uh and Tyson catching is I'mnot sure if he's a good coaching.
But other players can't do that.Sexton can't do that. Yeah, okay,

(01:14:17):
But Hastings has got the ability tosay, Okay, I don't need
to run. Okay, he's toget the ball to to this blake here.
He's always had so much talent.Uh, yes he has, he
has. Uh and you know,you know Frazil for a thirty year old
man. Okay, where does heget the energy from him? He's got
hardened. He plays with his heartmate. It's great. And I'll call

(01:14:40):
him back what he is, sir, George back Rower. Um, nice
will make the eighth? Yeah,I think so. Of course, some
upsets to in the eight Okay,and how much Um I don't like No,
I don't care about Obrian how much. I don't think he's a good
coach. He will not get sacked. Okay, and the pool gold was
the pool. Sean Wayne will stillbe in Wigham next year in the cold.

(01:15:04):
So I'm sorry, Um, youdon't care, you know, Canberra.
I'm convinced now you know, Rickyhe's not a good coach. He's
not. He's not. He's wona comp with a with a loaded team,
with a stack team decay, theability well one a minute, the
ability to give them consistent consistency,the ability to haven't prepared. They weren't

(01:15:24):
prepared. Put some context in it, right, he's been coaching twenty one
years. He won a company's firstyear's coach. Yes he did. He
hasn't won one since. Yeah,and it was a team that Graham Murray
put together as well, so props, But um he lost. I think
he lost two Grand finals after thatwith the Roosters. Yes, I don't

(01:15:46):
know that we can. He's wona comp. I don't know how much
wastebak carries when after twenty one yearsit was in your first season you haven't
been able to replicate it. Well, you know what they weren't They weren't
prepared. They were playing at home, Okay, in a big stake game.
Okay, they won last week.Okay, and because they got negative
fifty whatever, Okay, four andagainst Okay, so they're not safe and

(01:16:11):
I don't think they'll make the eights. It's too different to when I went
down there a few weeks back.Twitter three actually got lapped. Yeah,
but you know, a big crowdat home, big occasion. They weren't
up for it, mind you.The Warriors were great, but the Raiders
weren't up for it. Yeah.Well, can I just say, like
Timmy, Timmy go the last monthlooked like he you know, he has
spaders. You couldn't tackle him.He wasn't he wasn't cited. Jared needs

(01:16:36):
a week off man. Yeah,I don't care about next year what he's
gonna do. But he just lookstired, okay, um rap, And
I was always full of beans.Okay. Um. You know Fogginy,
he's so good one week and he'sso poor the other week, and he's
kicking game. I'm gonna I'm gonnacall something I actually think public. He

(01:16:57):
played half decent um young okay.And the em reason I'm going to say
he's still good because this guy toldme he's good. He's good. He's
an origin okay, Um, ifhe had origin, if he didn't,
if he didn't told me, he'sgood. I would say he's probably probably
the best reggie player in the country. But I'm going to stay with him.

(01:17:18):
But one thing that Um, thisguy, he's not gonna and I'm
pointing to ask everybody, he's notgonna convince me Big Red he's a cat.
Well, I don't care. Idon't give a big Red he's a
cat, I think, Um,I don't. I don't care what Billy
Billy made a mistake to put himin the Origin arena. Okay, Um,

(01:17:39):
he's a cat and when he comeshe's a chief shotted cat. As
simple as two years ago he hadan incident playing against Parramatta with Ryan Madison
where they had a push in shoveand he he broke down crying as he
walked off the field. Yeah.Um, he had two years to square
it up. When he ran inearlier this season, the King hit Madison

(01:18:04):
and he took an air swing hemissed completely. So my advice to Big
Ready's dath throw him because as acat handbags the ten pieces. You know,
at the start of the year therewas something there, but as the
year goes on. Now, okay, beside his forms dipped. I can't
believe it's the same player. Okay, all the cheap shots came in.

(01:18:26):
Now, if you're if you're NelsonConfusi and you're doing cheap shots, you're
still a good player. You're stillplaying really well, and you'll put cheap
shots usually start when your form declines. It's like watching my tyson in the
nineties, you know. But anyway, let's move on. Just I just
want to I wouldn't write the Camberatorsofften because I thought they had a good
run of form where they won aconsecutive amount of games in a row and

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they're all close games. They wereall close that would have taken a lot
of toll out of them. They'llbounce back, and we spoke about it
right this last year. They'll loseexactly. Yeah. So I saw something
in those games that thought, youknow what, these guys might do something.
They just got to get there.Had the Dragons went down to the
sea talk to me, because Ithought we talked about that bunking decision,

(01:19:14):
But they tell us about the game. I thought saying started really well.
I thought that were the better team, to be honest, manly scored a
couple of long range tries around theleft. Our left side is terrible.
Sully and and I just get caughtout all the time. But DC one,
he's three hundredth game. I'll giveyour stat about this guy, right,
Cherry Evans won his fiftieth hundred,one hundred and fiftieth two and three

(01:19:35):
hundredth games. So when that guyhas a milestone, he aims up playing
his best season. He couldn't talkafter this one. He was he was
a phenomenal and I wouldn't be surprisedif he gets daily and Play of the
Year. He would be racking upthe points he might get. Even the
losing games. He's still one ofthe best on the Cherry Evans Player of

(01:19:56):
the Year. He's phenomenal. Andthen you compare him to our seven,
who thinks he's number seven and thebest in the world. DC even ships
all over Hunt. He knows howto close a game, he knows how
to kick, He does everything.He puts his players in the holes.
He doesn't just run the ball underhis arm and just try. He's just
a complete halfback. I really rateEvans and manly signing him for a million

(01:20:17):
dollars for ten years the best bitof business I've ever seen. It was
cheap like everyone was blowing up backthen. It's way unders now he's phenomenal
and well done DC because he copsit too sometimes. Yeah, I just
want I just wanted to wrap Dan. He's always been a real good stand
up. Yeah guy for the gameas well. Yeah, he speaks very

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well. I haven't seen him puta foot wrong off the field. I
hope when he finishes here he getsinto He will in the media, yea
or upstairs in the offices. CEOis something of a club. I hope
he goes into the league. CEOis a bit of a stretch. But
oh yeah, you know what Imean somewhere I think I do want to

(01:21:00):
say about Sint George. Um zacha, Yeah, outstanding that year. Yeah,
I think you could unravel something reallyspecially. Gregor tried him there already,
he gave him a couple of Yeah, but this would be different,
This would be different, to bedifferent. I think he was ready for
it back then, but I thinkhe's ready for it now. Phenomenal.

(01:21:21):
Um, you know what, Ididn't think this game gone to any great
heights. Um. I don't thinkManly will make the aide um. Saint
George's tried Yeah, they hang inthere, don't they. Yeah, they
do, they do. They playactually well, and they make a couple
of mistakes and they drop their heads. You know what call? I call
Saint George and the Tigers the bestworst team in the camp because they show

(01:21:45):
you fifteen minutes of outstanding rugby league. Then they give you fifteen minutes of
complete rubbish okay, and in thatfifteen minutes the good teams go bye bye,
bang bang bang. Let's talk.Let's let's think about next week,
you know what I mean? LikeSels did? Yeah? Did you hear
what you just see? Because Iwas looking at those donuts? Yeah?
But look Saints cool, but lookthey got some bad decisions. They are

(01:22:09):
on the roaring or how many timeswith the hip drop thing? Right?
How many times have you seen aguy going rapport for a hip drop and
stay on? Most of the timesthey stay on. I don't know the
difference between a seeming hop drop andanother one of my sayings, it's better
to be lucky than good. Yeah, right, let's move on. Panthers

(01:22:31):
twenty eight Sharks Neil Sharks were beingfree for it. Is Penrith fair enough
for twenty eight zip? Penrith witha training one that didn't even is it
fair to say this is going tosound ridiculous even as I think about it,
Is it fair to share the sharkSharks defended quite well. It could
have been fifty six Neil. Idon't know what do you guys think.

(01:22:56):
I thought Penrith were outstanding, ninetytwo percent completion right, just pene and
they just made it look easy.And that's against a team that's the top
eight team. You know what,let me tell you the difference between last
year Penrith NiTi Penrith. Last year. Yeah, they defended outstandingly. Okay,
but what they could do is blowyour way, blow your way in

(01:23:16):
the fifteen minutes, kick out,kick out on the tell me okay,
this year, what they do iswe've got to call them the Boa Constrictor.
They just squeeze the life out ofyou. They make you you can't
breathe. In that case, let'scall them Damien. Damien, Yeah,
Jake the snake Roberts Jake, okay, So so Damien, okay. So

(01:23:43):
that they get you in, theyget you in in a position Nicola and
you can't breathe and you don't knowhow you can score points. You know,
you get over the line, someone'sunderneath you, someone's knocking you out
of the out of the thing.Then they get the ball, they work
the way way down to their position, they score on you know what the

(01:24:03):
so um and that's why I think. Um, and we'll talk about the
week that's ahead. But um,I don't think Milburn's got a chance before
we do. Tell us what happenedon Sunday George Bulldogs twenty three, Dolphins
twenty two. Okay, black Burnsfield goal to make it eleven points to
eight in the first half was mindboggling, but it ended up being a

(01:24:25):
difference. Yeah yeah, look,um, a low standard game in general.
Um, I think I think theDogs played better overall. So now
that were the better side side,Okay, Um, I found it hard
to watch. The score kept methere. Um And basically look kick cow

(01:24:47):
and the and the players that camein did make a massive difference, because
if you had last week's team onwould lose by thirty Okay, So yes,
we came. We came seven playersis a lot. Yeah, yeah,
we came up. And they forgetthe Dolphins, they beat themselves.
You got to beat the Dolphins Okay, they didn't lie, they didn't lie
down. They were trying to winfrom from even the last minute. Okay,

(01:25:10):
they could have if you got thekid kicked it in. Yeah,
they could have so, and maybeI wouldn't have I wouldn't have said anything
if they didn't. Um, Look, they won, they won the game.
I'm not too chuffed, im I'vegot you know, there's no win
win, I don't care. Ihave no emotions about this current team.
You know, you know that gameCannaby missed forty nine tackles and the Dolphins

(01:25:34):
only missed twenty eight. Yeah,so yeah, and it was incredible.
Man, um kicks Dolphins just didn'tplay. That was just terrible. Take
kick out, kick out would getus out of trouble with ball in hand
so many times. Well you've donethe penrith ak. Yeah, and that's

(01:25:57):
what I mean. He's they're stillterrible. I don't care what what you
said. And lady telling me thatthey missed so many tackles just tells me
that nothing's changed. But maybe there'sfour games, four more games of paying
to go and then it's over.Maybe girls should be trying to get McGinnis.
She should be their first p Um. I didn't like. Yeah,

(01:26:18):
I didn't. I listened to Gus'spod today what he say. He said,
I'd take me, get us ina heart beat, and of course
everybody he goes I'd take him ina heart beat. Um, who wouldn't
Um? The Cowboys the winning runcame to a hold twenty two point thirteen,
beaten by the Gold Coast. Yeah. I was getting messages from the

(01:26:42):
only Egyptian Cowboy square him and hesaid there was a corruption happening there.
They're waiting to see he's just wonsix and right. I don't know it
was. It wasn't happened with someof the decisions there, but Times deserved
it. In the end, Cowboysjust didn't turn up. I think six
week wins in a row just gotto him. I think I think they
just needed that one. The Timeshave been better since they say Holbrook,
haven't. I feel bad at sayingit, but they actually had a couple

(01:27:05):
of like last ditch losses. They'vebeen more competitive overall. Well, and
the Cowboys missing fortio tackles that's notlike Cowboys, that's very rare. So
they were off the game big time. I mean, they've had such a
run exactly. Yeah, and theycame from nowhere exactly. It happens to
your point, um, in termsof the Titans having a better run,

(01:27:27):
Um last not last week two,the week two weeks before okay, which
they lost by golden point both times. Two weeks and a row okay,
which Graham Mansley says that everything was, Yeah, yeah, you're given four
points plus the two points they've gone. Now, I guess we'll guess we're
there, in there, in there. When they lost the Parramatta in golden

(01:27:49):
Point, they actually should have wonthat game because when they went to kick
a field goal to even the scorewhen they at one point behind in the
last couple of minutes, half ofthe paramount team was offside. Of course
it would have been apparently in frontof the posts. They didn't give it,
mind you. That's how they lostthe week before when they were penalized
for doing the same thing. Sothey've they've had the ship end of the

(01:28:11):
stick. That's all I wanted tosay. Um, cowboys, extremely disappointing.
Um they looked off, they wereoff. I would say that they
weren't prepared properly, but I knowtheir coach and I can't believe that they
weren't. They weren't prepared. Theywere just seven in rows too much.
This might be the best thing forthem. Yeah, they might go back

(01:28:34):
to North Queensland. I'm not surewhere they're playing this week. Then might
go back to North Queensland, puttheir heads back on and go for another
seven game run. The only problem, of course, is that their center
and their best player, he's gonefor four weeks. Yeah, our homes
and that's a big loss. SoI thought it was strangely challenged. You

(01:28:56):
should have just taken the three.Taken the three. Yeah, I just
hope that doesn't do well this season. I really hope. Apparently forgot his
Melbourne jersey at home, that's whyhe brought it. He would have got
off. You know what, NelsonGuffus, I had other cases of that
day. They couldn't take the case. That's easy polishing the trophies of some

(01:29:18):
rapid fire questions boys. Best gamein the round Titans Galeboys was interesting.
I thought, I love watching theTitans. They play good, they're entertaining,
they're in Newcastle. I love watchingthose two teams at the momentum,
so I was tossing up between thosetwo and I went with the Titans.
I love watching anything Pendrov. Okay, for me, it certainly wasn't the

(01:29:41):
best game of the round. Butbut for me that category also comes down
to edge of the seat stuff.So I'll get Bulldogs Dolphins because you just
didn't know who was going to win. It was my blood job, each
other's blood for me. Any gamethat keeps you engaged until the final bell,
it doesn't have to be quality,yeah, but yeah, it can't

(01:30:02):
be engage as well. Blood drivethe round. You just gave a shawl
one George the Dogs. Yeah,low standard. It wasn't less standard,
but there wasn't my standard. Itfelt like Sharks were never gonna win.
Like I'm just watching a game andI'm just watching Penrith. When's it going
to end? You know you hadthe result already after that's and that's what
I'm referring to. Like, eveneven the lower quality games that can be

(01:30:26):
exciting. Yeah, you talk aboutthe Premier League, some of the best
games of the season at the bottomfour teams exact, battling it out at
the end. You know, umwhat stood out for you guys in this
round? I liked how they hadthe women in league emphasis this year and
in the lineups they had a ladywith the influential lady for the club that
was mice touched. I think it'sreally nice. Um, so that was

(01:30:48):
my standout. I liked seeing it. You know they should. Last year
it was tarnished with this scandal ofwar was it the pride, So this
year that they made more emphasis onwomen, which is great and on on.
On the back of that, wewere, Um, we weren't on
point last week, Nico for thesame reason. It was a shadowed with

(01:31:09):
the other crap. Yes, andwe we we we we talked about it
after the pod we said we missedthat. And and because of the confassal
today with the the fiftieth episode,we didn't mention it. Um, we
didn't mention it today either. AndI'm going to say something because I think
the women in our lives are extremelym extremely important. Um. You know

(01:31:32):
what, my poor mum from theage of six and seven are lugging me
around the southwest uh and and andand the um the southwest of Sydney,
taking me from ground to ground.Um. You know, a big,
big, a big thing back thenfor an ethnic woman. Um, you

(01:31:54):
know what our our our wives,our daughters. Um, you know,
I pay homage to all women whohave got anything to do with any any
any email, anything, And that'sI'm going to go there for my what
stood out? That sucks for mebecause I didn't have that as a kid.

(01:32:15):
I was one of those kids whostood out the front and someone else's
parents pick you up. Really forthe game? Yeah, My poor mum
had no what she was doing.She stood sat in the car when I
went train or played. She wouldn'tgo watch the game, or she would
sometimes she had no I did whatshe was watching back then. Especially,
um, so yeah, look atI've gotta take my head off two women.

(01:32:38):
And even even as we get older. Um, and I'm sure I
have the same cinnament. Our poorwives, what they what they go through
with us? Um? Yeah,especially my one stood out for you,
Arnie. The woman was on theback. I was looking at the again,

(01:33:00):
who gets the John Crease spray thisweek? You know what? I
want this guy to look at himselfin the mirror and spray himself. John
Crease, what for those bloody trophies, those two thousand, two thousand and
seven and two thousand and nine paradingthose you're find a cratter. That's disgusting.
You know, I've got to gothere again. Annesley. You know

(01:33:24):
what, why can't you sort ofbe honest, Why can't you call a
spade a spade. Well, ifyou're wrong, you're wrong. It's wrong.
And when you go to the judiciary, don't give the poor guy four
weeks and he's on the judiciary,give them a spray as well. Guys
who got suspended for a total ofthree years when they were playing probably,

(01:33:46):
oh, well there you go.He was, he was a regular.
Yeah, he had his aim seatthere. But he'll tell you it was
a different time, right, Sothat's okay for me. It's um,
it's Clint Newton and arm that themost disgraceful thing, putting tape over the
NRL emblem. Disgraceful which has theTelstra Premiership there. I can't believe the

(01:34:09):
NRL And yeah, I'm taking ashot at you again. When are you
going to come out and share somebackbone? You know, when are you
going to come out and share somebackbone? Um? The Telstra what what
do they what do they contribute tothe competition? You know, players not
being interviewed, what the Fox telland Channel nine contribute to the competition.

(01:34:30):
Just money. How about calling abluff Like I said last week, come
out and say, guess what you'rethreatening the book Dams, Well, we
cancel him Dams this year. Playersthen't get angry at us, get angry
at yourselves. And by the way, no one's getting paid until everything gets
back to normal. You want toleave, leave, we'll tell your contract
up. I'm sure there are youngsterswilling to take your place for half the

(01:34:53):
money. What concerns me is asa player, I'd be very concerned if
the guy that's looking after our willbeing is a guy that thought Jennifer Hawkins
wasn't good enough and he dropped novision. I don't know what happened there,
but you know what, I thinkit was Breath and Asta raised a
really good point where I think itwas Braith and a star. What are
you saying, we see Clinton Newtonis representing every player. Most of the

(01:35:16):
players don't even know what they're boycottingabout. Exactly if these players were being
charged, like you know, howa player plays their agent. They paid,
so it pays their agent, theypay their manager. If Clint Newton
was invoicing the players. How manyof them would be would keep him on?
No, yeah, all about thatstuff. It's childish. Getting the

(01:35:40):
room sorted out because seriously, bothof both parties. Now you Clinton looking
like a meme or like a fooland nural mant of feathers sorted out,
Pick up the phone, get onthe fact sorted out. Get him in
the room, because this is gettinga little bit boring. Yeah, a
little bit, just a little bitboard. Twenty one months they've been negotiating.

(01:36:01):
Shocking, it's a negotiation getting theroom. You're not going to get
a hundred points. You forget aboutit. And you know what annoys to
be the most okay, the playerswant control of all the money aspects.
Who's the employee employer? It comesback to you know what, I'm not
going to mention the name. Iwork for a company that makes the NR

(01:36:23):
look like a lemonade. Stand right, I see the ship day in,
day out. These people are purelyincompetent. Twenty one months, the negotiate
a deal where the lunatics are runningthe asylum thirty seven percent pay rise,
and they're still arguing, come on, crazy, my knowledge players around.

(01:36:44):
I've got a bit of a somethingI need to play from anoledge because I
actually met up with him in Whyand I went for a coffee and I
accidentally pressed more record, so Ithought, yeah, I pressed more record.
But anyway, I'll play what onlyYes, So this is what happened.
Welcome to star Mitchos. Can Itake your order? Is I like
one Metrio? Please? There is? I'm sorry, one metrios? What

(01:37:08):
Metrio coffee? What's what exactly whatyou're looking for? What's a Metrius coffee?
Greek coffee? Matrio? We havecappuccinos, frappuccinos, lattes, skim
lattes. What the cappuccino, frappuccino, puccino carabella? Over here you have
frappuccino. I want a Greek coffee, Matrio. He was embarrassing. My

(01:37:31):
we have Greek coffee, but thehell you get it? We have frappuccino,
cappuccinos, lattes, and the sayinghe says, cafe Michos. Okay,
where is mitcha I want to talkspeak to Mitos please. Micho's not
here today, all right? Mitrosis Greek? No? Yes's from a
Tripoli? All right, it's fromTripoli. He doesn't have to make it
one metrike puccino cappuccino here we don'thave, Yes, that was that was

(01:37:58):
why his name I've been recorded.But I don't think we're going to get
to lucky packs this year because Ithink that him actually went violent after that.
He really wanted his meted or coffee. I think we might have to
boycott it. I could be afterMark, but he isn't tripping the e
leban nine. That's okay that butyeah, he got really aggressive, like
I accidentally pressed the record, soI thought, you know what's going to

(01:38:20):
I can't believe. I can't believehe followed, you know by why.
Yeah, I meet up with him, mate, So it was good to
meet up with him. But yeah, so so is it? No palmeers
and chips this week? But hedoesn't do as much. But if we
were going to give it, mate, I went for a guy from a
losing team. Yeah, I wentfor Lomax because the guy has been putting
in for the last four weeks.He deserves a Lucky pack at least,

(01:38:42):
So that's why I wait for mate. Yeah, I'm gonna put a smile
on his face in the corner umand I put a meg on my face.
Um, Calen Pong, Oh wow, Calen Ponga. So Calipolla is
going to jump in the in theford, go down and pick up go
to the south side, pick upa lomax. Who you got you can

(01:39:06):
kaal and pick your bought man upas well. I'm going to go and
it's for one moment. Patrick Carrion, Yeah, that's a good one.
Well he has to fly down andhe'll pick him up at the airport.
Can pick him up, pick himup, pick up. I just have
a feeling that Carrigan's probably going toopen it up and put some Smith's crisps
in it. Yeah, yeah,I don't think he's very other European culture.

(01:39:30):
Yeah, apparently he's got more ofa temper than the minority. So
really trouble. Yeah, I hopethat happens too much. But anyway,
I can't believe you called. Ican't believe you couldn't get his coffee.
If you got some, ask Hardyfor us. There was some spam.
I've got some just yeah. Look, well I was in Hawaii, saw
a couple of pigeons on the balconyand then I noticed that threw some notes.

(01:39:51):
So just is getting very creatively,a't you sending me gury pigeons?
The first rumor that was in regardsto the nicest men in rugby league Nikko
Hines. I don't know too muchabout this. One must have happened last
week. He was involved in acar rage, a road rage incident.
What yeah, Nico Apparently was tryingto park his car and there was a

(01:40:12):
lady saying forward, forward, forward, and then lost. He just lost
his ship, so didn't know whatwhat? What's? What's this forward?
Niko? He doesn't like the wordthree times three times? Apparently she told
him and he lost his ship.The other rumor is this is the old
one now because it's actually come true. Josephina spotted Takyaho looking around the banks

(01:40:34):
Down Hospital meeting facilities and he wasimpressed. Apparently he's going to sign for
the Bulldocks for five hundred k andshares in medicare. He's got it there
and there's an announcement that's going tobe made soon. Apparently this guy must
listen to the podcast Vince McMahon.Apparently there's going to be a new tag
team called the Simpow Brothers, TerrySims and Marty Tapaw who are joined together.

(01:40:56):
They're going to be in part ofWWF next years. Subpoenas As for
the spam al um, what havewe got? Johnny m from Red Fern
with John Morris, he said,how how good is the Shark's going?
Even the Matilda scored more points thanany Johnny Morris um Jack from the Act

(01:41:23):
Jack? What's he asking? Howlong till we start calling? Ricky Stewart
nostre Dames of the NRL. Hepredicted last year that Jermaine Salmon will be
a dog. Well that prediction thatwas pretty good. Open from Penrith,
the very sincere one. Here hegoes, I hope Webster who gets the
Coach of the Year. Two yearsago it was Bellamy, then it was

(01:41:46):
Peyton. Surely deserves it. Youknow this guy's done well, you know
Sastic there, he's starting to feelit a bit, so you might get
it this year even thank you up. He deserves it. He deserves it.
And you know what, that's whatI miss, That's what this past.

(01:42:10):
That's the one out one thing Iwant to do with you guys for
the Ascardi. I want to tryand figure out what you guys think I'm
gonna I'm gonna rattle off the topeleven teams, right, and they're running.
I want you to tell me whatyou think if they're going to be
in the finals or out first one'sa no brainer. We've got Penrith and
they're running is Storm mainly Titans,Eels, Cowboys. Now I'm predicting gonna

(01:42:34):
get teen points out of that,finish on forty four. Do you guys
agree? What do you think?A big chance? Yeah, I know
it's not what you're asking, butI see Parents Bronco's Grand Final. Yeah,
but we'll get to that. Well, the next game is a Broncos.
They're all thirty four points as well. They're running is Cowboys, Paramatter
by Raiders Storm, So Parents,you're both of the so yeah, so

(01:42:59):
I can of them getting probably sixto eight points out of that. Maybe
the Panthers might oh sorry, Cowboysmight throw the spinner or the Storm,
but no, that'll come second.They'll come second forty two. They'll finish
on a couple of points. Isthat what you think? There're a chance
to win the compto? The Warriorshave got a good run there. On
third they're on thirty points four behindnow they've got the Titans, the Tigers,

(01:43:24):
Manly Saints and the Dolphins. Iwould love that points finished top four.
Is that ten points though, youthink, yes, it's at least
I think it's top I think it'sten points. Six to four, definitely
six, that's top four. Well, that locks him in. You know,
I would love to send him finishtop four. I really would.
They will imagine imagine going to Aucklandthrough Yeah, semifinal. Yeah, well

(01:43:45):
they're two points ahead of fifth,so you know that's a very very fig
possibility. And then locking up fourth. We've got the Storm on thirty points.
They're two points above fifth. Theirrun home is Penrith, Raiders,
Saints, Titans, some Broncos.They've got a couple of tough ones there.
So the last three of those gamesthat I have Peppers, Yeah,

(01:44:06):
they'll win the middle two and they'llbe enough to make the AP. They'll
make an EP Yeah, I'll makeyeah, Okay, if they win six
to eight points, I'll get thethirty. Yeah they should, they should
there. On fifth, we've gotthe Raiders. Now this is where it
gets interesting because we've got the bottompart. So they've got the Tigers,
the Storm, the Dogs, Bronchos, Sharks. That's three winnable games the

(01:44:28):
Sharks. So you've got Tigers,Dogs and the Sharks for him against,
miss you, reckon, don't misselling for him against. How much point
have they got now? Twenty eight? If they win those three, if
they beat the Tigers and the Dogs, they get them to thirty two and
the team come in eighth is twentysix. So twenty six I think that

(01:44:49):
through the Raiders. What do youthink they're in the Raiders, I'll miss
out, No, they can't.If they get to thirty two, that's
the cut off. They'll get thethirty four, thirty four because four and
against going to kill him if they'reif someone's at thirty two and they get
thirty two, they won't. Theydon't getting because they're four and agains.
I reckon, I'll get thirty four. Reckon, I'll beat the Sharks.

(01:45:10):
They'll beat the Sharks. That's thelast game. Might get down to that
last game. To get to thatlast game. The six we've got souse
and they're running is the Sharks,Saints Nights Bye Roosters lose a game.
They finished with the Roosters last yearas well. Exactly Yeah, they'll be

(01:45:30):
there. What's his name is?Draw again? You know what? I
still haven't been to a stadium inthis season. Yeah, you've got to
get out there that one seventh.This is where it gets tricky. Sharks,
Right, they've got Sous, Titans, Cowboys, Knights, Raiders.
So two top eighteen, maybe three. They won't make it. They'll lose

(01:45:51):
all those games gone, they won'tmake the cut. Cowboys, they've got
a pretty tough run. They gotthe Broncos. Luckily they got the Buyers,
so they get a bit of arest, and they finish up with
the Sharks, Dolphins and Penrith.Penrith might rest, Penrith will rest,

(01:46:11):
They might rest last game. Penrithwill have the mint up. Yeah,
you know what, they might evenwin every game. Yeah. I've got
a good feeling that the Cowboys mightfinish possibly top four, squeezing against ahead
of the Storm, I hope.So now the guys that are ninth,
got the Knights there only one pointfrom the eight. Right, So the
Knights have got the Dolphins, theDogs, Souts, Sharks, Saints.

(01:46:34):
Four easy games with the can theyget in four games and their hard game
is what is it? Sharks theirhardest game. If they win all four,
how many points? If they winall four, they get thirty three
points, thirty five points, sorry, thirty five, thirty five points,
No, thirty three, thirty threepoints, thirty three. So they'll get

(01:46:55):
in from that drawer, you'll seethe thirty three, thirty two will be
cut off. Three they'll be inand the thirty The thirty two will miss
out. Ever gets the thirty twowill miss out. Yeah, okay,
do you agree with that, Nick, I'll sneak in or at one point
they're playing good, they're playing goodenough to be there, and if they
get there, they could do that. I'll be there. Well. Then

(01:47:15):
then then they'll play the number theteam coming fifth, and what are we
suggesting? We're looking at Raiders possiblyall Souse could be a Souse versus Knights
Sous for me, the unknown,Yeah, the X factor team. They
could do anything, they could goall the way, they could bumb out,
could be a store. I don'tknow what to expect. Yeah,

(01:47:36):
okay. And then around the Manlyand the Eels of the last two that
could possibly make I don't think eitherone of them will make how much or
they're equal with the Knights. Manly'sgot twenty five points and they've got the
Roosters, the Panthers, the Warriorsand finished with Dogs Tigers. So their
last two games are pretty good.They'll win two out of those games.

(01:47:57):
Yeah, well, if they winthree, they can get the thirty one.
Not I think either one will getthrough, to be honest, Yea
and Eels finish it off with theDragons two points there, Broncos, Roosters,
Panthers, Bye, I'll beat theBye. Wait a minute, if
they if they win three Dragons Roosterswith Broncos, Draggers, Dragons Roosters,

(01:48:24):
by, I think they'll beat theRoosters. Yeah. The way they're playing
is good. The way they're playing. Yeah, okay, this is by
But thirty one points might not beenough because they won't make thirty two will
get you. They won't make itif just then't deserve to be there.
Yeah, but I'm still perplexed,perplexed, sorry, how they How the
start of the year could be sohard and then the back of the year,

(01:48:48):
bag of the you be so hardand the middle wasn't any picnic?
How do they have so many hardgames? And is what it is?
How it doesn't it seem like thehad a hard team. Ask your may
to the NRL because Cranella and theDolphins seem to have good draws. Well,
the Dolphins, we know that magicalDust was sprinkle Wood because they've played

(01:49:08):
twice out of queens out of Queensland, I think, or three times out.
Ok, but we knew that they'regoing to get the first two years.
I got to get every break.Everybody's automated from a computer, so
we know it's not. Yeah,we know it's not. But you know
what. The the last spot.We've got Cowboys Sharks meeting up in three

(01:49:30):
weeks, so that's going to bebig. Think it's going to last game
in three weeks time the Cowboys rollthem out last season. Yes, yes,
it's gonna get down there, Ithink to the one, let's running
to crystal ball. Crystal ball?Yeah? The upcoming is it around twenty
three this week? Um? Yeah, let's just run through quickly. Rooster
seagulls. Who cares. I've gota bit of interest with this. I'm

(01:49:56):
going to roosters. I don't thinkmainly were that good, and I think
the Roosters can't afford to lose anymore, so crunch game. Both can't afford
to lose, so it's gonna bea cracker week. Um, you mainly
weren't that good, but they're goingto be better than the Wrists. Sorry.
Yeah. Gold Coast Warriors Warriors thirtyplus on the Gold Coast. Yeah,

(01:50:19):
Warriors. Webster's got his sights ontop four. Mate. Panthers storm
these last time these two played wasa cracker, so I'm assuming will be
another one. So I'm going Panthers. It's at home. Um yeah,
Panthers for me. Thirty plus PanthersCowboy Bronco is that's a North Queensland Wow.

(01:50:45):
Um, Cowboys, don't lose.The Cowboys team is going to make
the Grand Finel that doesn't lose.Back to back. Dolphin n Cowboys,
Yeah, for sure. Dolphins Nights. I'm going Knights, good form.
They've got to win. Yeah,Nights, I've got to win. They're
gonna win. Rabbido Shark Rabbi Latrell. Yeah, Rabbido will win and win.

(01:51:12):
Will You can't see the Sharks turningaround thirty plus and it's it's in
for some unknown reason, it's inPerth. A neel dragon will be there
hopefully with everything's fine. Um inthe middle and on the back of the
bell and being out, I'm tendingto lend to the Eels. Um.

(01:51:39):
You know, I don't know.If the Heels can't beat the Dragons,
they don't deserve to even go near. It's Brown's first game back and that's
the X factor there. They're stillmissing Cevo Killer Blake has been dropped.
Hands has been dropped, which isinteresting. Who's your hooker then, oh
well, the guy who flew overfrom England last week, Jerry Lussie.

(01:52:00):
Okay, he was look I've seenI've seen him in Simpi Leigue. He
was doing well in some hills.He was doing hills. Raidar Tiger Raiders
have to win this boil over Nicolain a cold, windy GA stadium and
the Tigers will get another victory.You know. I remember it was the
year two thousand and we were atAndrew and Louisa's place in their old place,

(01:52:26):
and I know you could. Itwas a Sunday, it was someone's
birthday and it was the snow storm. Camera still remember that day. I
remember, wow, twenty three yearsago. Um, do me a favor.
If the Raiders get up on ifthe Raiders get up against the Tigers,
can you get can you blocks giveit to me? Please? Yeah,
you give it? Just give itto me. I'm still wrick in

(01:52:47):
the Raid eight and we'll give ita shake. You definitely won't give it
a shot, man, George,you some tippets for us. We've got
some tibbots. We just haven't gotthe intra music. Nicolas. We've been
following the plight of the world championsSaint Helens and and uh. This week

(01:53:09):
they came up trumps. Saint Helen'splayed Leeds Nicola at the Wicked the Wicked
Stadium what they call it. SaintHelen scored twenty two and Leeds scored eighteen.
Huntersfield scored nineteen points, Nicola andHull LEFC scored twelve, whole Ka
scored thirty four. Nicola and Castlefor scored sixteen. So they're doing doing

(01:53:33):
well. For Spinney Wigham, unfortunately, I've gotta this one. I've gotta
give a bit of contents. Theyplayed the lead Leopards and Lee was on
a eight game winning run. Nicolaunfortunately fell fell against Wigham forty four eighteen.

(01:53:55):
But let's not forget the week beforeum they built themselves up to play
m Saint Helen's in the Challenge Cupsemifinal. You probably don't have they're they're
there in the final. So look, I think it's just a bump in
the road. I don't think it'sa big one, Nicola. But they
did fall cut the Lanz. Nicolascored forty two against Salford's zero and lucky

(01:54:21):
last Wakefield Trinity, the team comein last and predicted not to win a
game, scored forty two and Warringtonscored six points. Nicola, they're on
a yeah, they're on. They'reon. They're on an eight run losing
streak. Because of this loss,their coach got sacked. Nicola. The

(01:54:44):
coach got sacked and Dafty should beshown reserve grade. If you've got a
reserve grade in England, they shouldshow him in the reserve grade because he's
terrible. The top sixty in England. Nicola's cut the lanz on thirty Wigham,
which I think is the best teamsuper League twenty six team they called

(01:55:06):
a Littlepards twenty six. Somehow,I have no idea how they done this.
Saint Helen's on twenty four and they'veplayed two good games all year.
I'm twenty now they've played you knowwhat they're going with the corn, They're
going with the corp. I know, you just know it. How KR

(01:55:28):
twenty two Nicola and Warrington for howagain on the seven run losing streak,
they're still coming six in the inthe top seven run, seven games lost,
they're still coming here. But theywon their first had on nine games.
I reckon that the bottom three teamswith NRL should got England maybe relegation
promotion really good and then bring thetop three UM the nl W just very

(01:55:56):
quickly. Nicola the Bronco sixteen Titansseventeen UM Phil goal extra outstanding game.
Nicola and Broncos being loaded as theyare, Um and the Titan's been a
newer team. Um they turned upwith the victory. Nicola. Another new
team, Raiders twenty four beat theStar started Roosters four way and it was

(01:56:23):
full of passion, full of carefulof love. UM. Some names you
might know a center called Wiki Absolutely, Uh, you got a daughter,
Wow, absolutely carved up um Nicola'swick just as a girl. No,
it's uh. Nicola. The DragonsUM thirty six beat unfortunately beat our team

(01:56:54):
paramount of twelve. Really shy um, I don't want to say anything last
week, Nicola, but they'll predictedfor the Wooden Spoon. Yeah, tell
that after they lost by sixty pointsto a team that didn'ts this last year.
Yeah yeah, look they got theywere in the Grand final two that
was yeah, that was like twocomps ago. That was last year.
Yeah, but they played twice twocops last year. Yes, yeah,

(01:57:16):
yeah, yeah, Um, butthey got depleted, they got ripped.
They got a lot of players rippedout. Um, what can I say?
Actually, Dragons played well the nightsthe last year Grand finalists and Grand
and winners. Nicola went down tothe Cowboys. Wow, went down the
Cowboys and you know the new teamcowboys were cow girls cow girls where they

(01:57:38):
called cowboys but cow girls thirty onetwenty and cowgirls look good. Yeah,
Cogols look good. Yeah yeah.And um, I think the West Tigers,
the latest team, have won moregames than will win more games and
she than the men. They beata star slotted Sharks and Nicola somehow and

(01:58:00):
to zero. And I looked atme, indollars, I got a two
right now? The people ask mewhat what pods? Um I've been listening
listening to um. Have you listenedto um? Uh Smitty? No,

(01:58:23):
I have to Okay my list.I know you blokes like Smitty. And
if you like Smitty, listen listento it and I'll tell you why he
opens up. And um, Isaw a different side of Smitty and I
know why I don't like him nowNo, no, but usually love him.
For the reasons I don't like him, you will love Smitty. He

(01:58:44):
was very open for some some unknownreason. So Troy heaps out of him
and yeah it was great. Um. Uh. There's a pod called Unfiltered
and they had Potsy on it.Okay, and you know what, Potsy
is an interesting man. Yeah,isn't that Andy Raymond? Yes, yeah,
yes, he's a very very veryinteresting man. UM and James Graham

(01:59:09):
had back to back Wayne Pierce andBradley Clyde, and both interviewers were very
if you like the rug the league, very very very very good. UM.
And talking about Potsy Nicola, he'sthe player in UH player profile.
Uh. He played obviously he playedfor the Dogs. While he was playing

(01:59:31):
for the Dogs and Nicola nine eightytwo, he was still going to Grigory's
High school college. Yeah he uh, we know that he won the dam
nineteen eighty three, uh for forthe for fullback and a sorry he went
to dally M. Do you knowhe won his first comp nineteen eighty four

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in the Grand Final sixty four everparamounts. Yeah. Uh. Then um,
the year after that, Nicola,he in eighty five he beat Saint
George seven six Kenny George. Yearafter the year. What happened in that
game? He got injured, okay, and he had a few injuries during

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the year. So the bull frogshot him the door unfortunately, and Sir
George swooped him, swooped him andpicked him up. I was telling Arthur
that he had a little bit ofan unhappy time at the start, that
Sir George just couldn't fit in somewhere. But after the first year, Nicola,
or so after a few years,um, he picked up picked up

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another damn ninety one and and heplayed partially five eight, partially fullback,
which only doesn't remember you know what, can I can? I be honest,
I don't remember him playing five eight. But between the notes I read
and the interview I heard, Okay, that's how I picked that up.

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Yeah. Um, he uh,he captain the side that year as well,
Nicole Um he lost a Grand Finalagainst the Broncos and I didn't write
the ninety two, ninety two,ninety three would have to be they're the
ones that we lost, maybe sohe must he must be ninety two.

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I didn't write the year there,so he lost the Grand Final and ninety
two. Do you know he playedfor the Dogs, Saint George and Western
Reds Yes, yeah, he playedWestern Reds. Um he got a faint
call and there was a lot ofyoung guys. Ninety five meant that did
a mentor. I didn't write thateither, Sorry mate, I didn't write

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that. But this is what Ifind interesting. You know, as a
coach, we think he's just coachedin Australia, Australia. In England he
killed. Yeah, he coached Catalans, he coached Saint Helens, won a
Grand final and he's got a seventyeight percent win ratio with St Helen.
That's massive, that's good. Yeah, he's coached Bradford to a Grand Final

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and lost. We know he coachedWest Tigers and had an unhappy time there,
and obviously he coached the Dogs fora short time. He didn't do
too badly at the worst time.Yeah he got shafted. Yeah, he
was doing okay. I didn't everfall that with Farrell something like that.
I think it was was it someone? Was it Jason Tylor that replaced him?
Yes, he wasn't doing too badly. In fact, I could be

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wrong. I think he's the lastcoach to take him to it to the
finals. Probably is he probably is, But yeah, I mean he's He's
what I tried to point out withthat that he's a well rounded coach.
Yeah, just absolutely. And whenwe saw it when he took the Dogs
over. He was a great player. I used to love watching him play,
and you can see he was goingto be a coach too back and
then because he was really bossing everyonearound like you do his stuff. It

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was great. I'll give you onemore stat and we'll talk about our memories
about it about him. Do youknow he caged fig really And the interesting
part about that is that out ofeight games he won five lost three obviously
a sixty three per success ratio.Um, the guy everywhere he's gone is
a winner. He's a winner wherewhere he's gone. Now, I remember

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him at Canterbury at fullback, andum he got the dally in because he
was the best player on the field, the best player in the team.
He just fed off those Gillespie,he fed off all those all those big
fours that we had. He wasrunning off four. He was outstanding.
I loved watching him and who canforget um you know him him out wide,

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just screaming away for tries. AndI'm sure you've got similar views,
similar views, mate, because Iremember it. Saint George. I love
play at the full mostly fullback,but he used to play Hart and summer.
He's really run hard. He didcreate a gap out of nowhere.
He was really good and he justorganized the line. He can read defend.
He can organize defense as well,so he was a great player.

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I can't remember that. But thisis before we knew about our outside shoulders
and this and that. And I'mtelling you now, between the two centers
there, they used to say,yeah, chime into the fullback, chime
in outside of you know, gettingballs from from from again. Farrell bar
the guy. The guy just carvedup badly and obviously got He's got two

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daly ms, so he's given Iknow he gave me a lot of pleasure.
And I know he's given Ardi alot of a lot of pressure pleasure
memories of him. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, a lot of pleasure along
the way, the the I gaveyou, the Rant, the the Nror
Rant, a bit of premature,and Nicola and the song of the week

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Nicola on the back of Aardi comingback. I remember a show I think
sevenies might have been early eighties,Welcome Back Hotter. Yeah, yeah,
you can back. Welcome Back.Well, that's the song that's going to
play at you. We're not goingto be standard procedure or whatever they called.
What do they called standard procedure?Yeah? Um, brother Louis,

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Brother Louis, do you want,brother? What are the next week?
I want, Brother Louis. Let'sjust just to fill out. And I
saw one of those funny posts onInstagram of some eighties band with the hair
and hilarious, and then when Iplayed it for George, you started seeing
it. I'm talking talking talking standardprocedure. A lot of my favorite bands

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talking standard procedure. Cherry Cherry Ladies, everything kills me. And that's really
really good. Thanks with comprehensive rap, George, And that's your boys.
That that's a rap site. Fiftyepisode fifty ye, well what are we
going to do for a hundred now, I don't know. I want to

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cut this so we can hack intothese donuts here mean too. I just
want to say that I'm still buzzingfrom Yeah, wonder boy did um Yeah
video? That was awesome. Thatwas pretty good. Yeah, that was
always expecting that. It was fantastic. Yeah he's too. Another fifty episodes
boys, and absolutely thanks guys,and yeah, looking forward to another many
more to come. Yeah, definitely. Well thanks everyone, thanks for sticking

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