EP 34: Conoce sobre la Ciencia de la Felicidad con Miriam Michan

¡Por qué somos felices o por qué no lo somos! 🌟

¿Sabías que el 40% de nuestra felicidad depende al 100% de nosotros? 😲✨

En el episodio de esta semana de "Quita el Modo Avión", exploramos el fascinante mundo de la ciencia de la felicidad con la experta Miriam Michan. Miriam es consultora de bienestar y promotora de la responsabilidad social en organizaciones.En este episodio, Miriam nos comparte valiosas perspectivas y herramientas prácticas para tomar el control de nuestra propia felicidad.

Descubriremos cómo pequeños cambios en nuestra mentalidad y hábitos diarios pueden tener un gran impacto en nuestra alegría y bienestar general.¡No te pierdas esta conversación inspiradora que te ayudará a desbloquear tu máximo potencial y a vivir una vida más plena y feliz!

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Episode Transcript

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Hey, welcome, here' sthe plane and take off the podcast.
For entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs or women whowant to take off airplane mode, if
you want to take a turn ofyour life and take the business out of
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If I leave you hosts ba Hellowelcome to one more episode, take
off the podcast mode. On thisoccasion Miriam mi Chan is with us,
with whom we will talk about issuesof positivism, well- being and how
to achieve our so dreamy happiness.Welcome, Miriam, it is an honor

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for you to be with us andto convey to us all your wisdom around
this subject. Thank you very much, Joe Jools, a thousand thanks for
inviting me. I think that thesubject is incredible with you, because knowing
you are a wake of happiness,not that you pass and leave, rast
the truth of the people around youif I love that theme or we discuss

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it and share it. Thank youvery much, And it is that we
were just talking Miriam and I abouta very interesting book that I read that
is how to get out of thewell of Andrés Openheimer, who talks about
how countries seek happiness, and wewere talking about Martin Celligman, who is

(01:27):
the father of positive psychology, andwe talked about other burus in the world
of positivism, like Frank Martella,Nancy Hey, Sarah Conningham and, well,
Martin Seligman. And I was veryinterested in all of this that we
were talking about, especially on issuesof well- being, happiness, how
to be happy that happiness is beingbuilt and here I have a little doubt

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about the difference, that is,what well- being is, what happiness
is and how these two come together. Yeah, all right. Joees,
I tell you a little bit aboutwhy I' m interested in these topics
and how I started reading, researchingand preparing and also finding out that there

(02:12):
' s a way and science provesit to be better every day. You
can be better. Then I startworking in the area of social responsibility and
my wish is that people working incorporates could have a better quality of life
within the company. Then I beginto practice wellness exercises and I define well

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- being in being able to reachevery day and does not mean that well
- being is always. I'm fine all the time. I'
m fine is that you have towork a foundation or your pillars to be
able to face the challenges that lifehas by nature, that the human being

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faces and that today we are exposedto a lot of information, to a
world in chaos, that the mediaare, therefore, teaching and showing us
then well, how we can influenceour space, our family, our community,
our companies and that we can howto face. If we strengthen every

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day, every day, you arewilling to be better, then, Right
now, as you say all theseauthors. There are already many courses and
many times we ask ourselves, butyes, scientifically proven, because yes,
there is now a topic, thereis a science of happiness, proving that

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we can be much better, muchhappier. And if we could say that
it is the goal of the humanbeing is to be well, not that
it is when a baby is bornand cries does not mean that it is
going to be a sad person issaying there is something that is not satisfying

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and that when you feed or sleepwell that is, those basic needs,
the child will smile and the natureof the human being so I see it
and many philosophers, and that isto be happy and it does not mean
all day to laugh, not inother words, not all day to be

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heard If you can be bothered bysomething And there is a lot of handling
of emotion, but you have tofeel all the emotions and that does not
mean that you are not happy.So, that' s where I start
by saying there' s a lotI like to study, just like you
do. Pe is the bull againstudying how old you are is also an
important pillar. Studying is that preparingourselves, keeping the mind and neurons connected

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It' s also part of beingaccurate and as you start doing this whole
race, you don' t havea master' s degree. Tell us
a little bit about all this thatyou' ve developed and where you'
ve worked to get to know alittle bit about yourself. Yeah, I
got my first job gone a longtime ago, but pretty much in'
90s. One of my first jobsis in the maquila industry. Then it

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is my turn to work on strategicplanning and I realize that even in the
nineties and all labor standards, maquilais a place where there is much to
improve and working conditions are not optimal. Starting with also the number of women

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who are there working on the machine, which is the majority of those who
are on the machines, as theyare not women. So that' s
where I' m starting to worryabout saying something isn' t right and
I don' t like working here, me in the strategic planning part,
in the industrial ship, where I' m with air conditioning and down,

(06:09):
people are working with a temperature.Then I said something' s not right
and it' s not right forme to have more studies. Things aren
' t fair to these women.So, there I start to question myself
and start looking for a program andpreparing and studying the master' s degree

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in international relations, because at thattime there was no master' s degree
in social responsibility is. Speaking ofthe 2, 000, there was still
no master' s degree as suchat the time. Then with international relations.
I know a Colombian professor who talksabout human rights in business in Canada
and I' m going to studya master' s degree in political economics,

(06:53):
that is, a master' sdegree in international relations, with a
focus on political economics, and thereI start doing a practice and a study
on mineral extraction. So, humanrights blood diamonds, I' m starting
to get passionate about saying, becauseI' m going to do the first
not to accept a diamond, thatis, if the diamond is to say

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you want to marry me, andthis is for life. When you start
to know about diamonds, human rightsand mining, and that' s when
I also say there' s somethingwe have to do, not just in
the maquila, but in the part, in the extractive industry. I finish
the master' s degree program andgo to Denmark to study rather to work

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on a project of the World Bankfor Human Rights and the productive chain,
not just in the extraction, butin the maquila and in general, and
then the World Bank is funding thisstudy, where we publish what we can
do to improve human rights within companies. I' m starting to work in

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foundations, in organizations, and I' m going to a very large pharmaceutical
company and there I' m asocial responsibility manager. Finally, a dream
of saying I can influence how Ican change the lives of employees within the
corporation. So that' s mybackground joos is like everything, there'

(08:28):
s been a lot of preparation,a lot of study. Right now.
Right now we' re re-studying and we know how a subject can
influence, a teacher how it canchange you. Then I' d like
to start from this from there aremany tools today online scientific books that are

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dedicated to being able to support youand tell you there are ways that if
today you' re not okay,how can you influence that. And I
' m not into medical matters.I' m not a psychologist, I
win it, I' m adoctor, I' m a professional mom
who likes to change the situation oflife and the environment. Then I begin

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by telling you what are the foundationsof this well- being, of this
happiness, of this fullness, andit is this important pillar of relationships that
you read the theme of well-being and happiness, and it is to
have a pillar as a family,as a spiritual group, a group of

(09:31):
friends. That' s one ofthe main bases. And we know that
the human being cannot be alone,He is not an individual who can be
alone. He' s better offwith his group of people. And then
now we' re also proving thatwe' re smarter. And intelligence also
comes from your environment, that is, if you' re living with people

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you learn from it, you cansolve problems much better with your community.
So that' s me would bethe first part. What we are doing
nourishing our relationships with friends, weare nourishing our family in the spaces of
being able to live together, ofdedicating our time, of talking, of

(10:18):
playing and of knowing that your childrenreturn home and feel that safe place.
And that' s they' regoing to feel very happy, very happy,
even if we go through different stages. The human being, not adolescence,
where they can say that right nowyou' re the worst mom in
the world. But that security andknowing that they have a space in their

(10:41):
home, that they are loved,hugging, eating together, I think it
' s very important then that wouldbe the pillar. And more importantly,
there' s a study. Wealso share the soul mater you and I
jos of the Anagua University, wherethe Anagua University has an exemplary volunteer program,

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exemplary and the master' s degreein social responsibility that I did there
too, in the Nagua it isshown that the human being is very happy
when he has something to make clear, that is, the being able to
say Hey this Saturday I am goingto dedicate my time to a group where

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I can give them something, help, serve and that ability to connect with
others and say on Saturday I leftand I could help one person, two
people. I get out of thereand you get a lot happier and you
know what in that one like thetools that make you feel full. So,

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when you finish a service program.That' s also inside the pillars.
Then nothing else has to be Saturday. It' s good. I
can help too I am of theidea that nothing else because you have the
economic resource and gifts is not thesame feeling nor does it work in your

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brain. When you' re rightwith the person. With this, with
a vulnerable group and everyone at somepoint is vulnerable, then it doesn'
t mean that I' m talkingabout having less financial resources than you are.
How can I feel safe or whena doctor voluntarily gives a day or

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a lawyer supports you voluntarily so thatyou are better off in your legal situation.
I mean, everyone has a wayof giving and we' re all
going to be a cycle. Nottoday you' re the strong person.
Tomorrow you' re going to bethe person vulnerable for health, for a

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lack that we have in you.I think that also gives you, because
in the brain it' s proven. There is that part of dopamine and
endorphins and all the hormones of happinessthat psychologists and psychiatrists cannot explain. Not
helping and doing well makes you feelgood, feeling happy and full, so

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first of all, feeling this personalwell- being and, above all,
one thing that you mentioned that Ithink is super important is having this environment.
Many times they criticize those who areextreme positivists, not the negativists tell
us there is, but you,because everything goes well with you, it

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' s not true. It isa mentality that is working and sometimes there
are many people who are not inthis environment. But today, as you
mention, people who want to lookfor positive things, or positive people can
do instead of browsing and seeing issuesthat are negative or looking for negative ideas,

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you can give that switch to surroundyou with people that are not toxic,
people that join you, people thatyou can learn not and that if
in your home or family you don' t have this safe part, that
I imagine many families go through this, you can have these networks of support
to these friends, these communities wherethey can support you no and that,

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as you say well, it leadsto happiness. But here too I have
a question. I' ve beenhappy for a while, no, I
' ve always been happy. That' s a genetic thing to do.
What about this? I mean,there are people who aren' t just
happy, people who are 100%happy. Even if we go wrong in

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some situation we all do not dowrong and that is not why we stop
being happy. How they work,it' s genetics here and how it
can be modified exactly. Look.I' m a super- interesting question
before you and yes, I mean, there are studies and you' re
letting me try to pronounce it right. This one doesn' t always cost

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me work. I have your book. I love it and it' s
this researcher and this psychologist who talksabout positive psychology, as you say,
not this one. There' sa tendency to criticize this, but it
' s wonderful the study of SoniaLeonborn Mirsky has a book where she talks
about this part, where fifty percentof your happiness depends on genetics, as

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you say and I do believe,as well as profiles, as you didn
' t jos born, with thatbox, that gift that gave you life,
not with that fifty percent of thegenetics that makes you feel good,
that is to say that amaneces andyou say that father is life, no,
that' s like your personality.But what' s going on with

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the other fifty percent, that's the and that' s the opportunity.
Also people who aren' t bornwith that fifty percent are going to
say then I didn' t haveto be happy anymore. No yes,
there is a possibility and there isa range of those pillars in which I
talk to you about the relationships ofserving, being, volunteering, spirituality.

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So it' s ten percent.It also depends on the circumstances. Let
' s say I you were bornwith that fifty percent and ten percent also
the circumstances of the family in whichyou were born, in the country you
were born. You couldn' tdecide that, but that' s ten
percent of the circumstances. Also howthey make you not if you have a

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dad who likes to study, adad who really likes to be in the
country, go to the country andyou can learn and your whole family is
dedicated to the country and you saygood. Those are the circumstances that touched
me the forty percent left. Thoseare the tools and pillars in which we
can work daily and many people sayso and many spiritual guides, but also

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already scientists, happiness is cultivated andnow I love that there are much more
doctors. Doctors who are attending thatnothing more are naturopathics, not the whole
naturist doctor, not also the traditionaldoctor. How happiness influences health. So

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all that forty percent is recognizing itpeople, doctors, science, people who
are dedicated to well- being.Not then what are those tools that you
can change. No, then let' s think about what you' re
doing in your day. Jos hey, you know I' m finishing this,
because I' m going to thegym. But the gym, because

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it is a super important part,because, because the exercise keeps us not
anything else from the physical part,is that internal is generating that strength,
that is, from being able tosay what comes from the rest of the
day. I' m going tobe in the best mood I have,
I' m going to see whathappens here, that is, when a

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baby is hungry she cries, thenyou have to meet those needs, which
are the basic needs, when achild doesn' t sleep. And here
too that' s the super importantpart that maybe and we' re letting
it go. If the children donot sleep, if the adults do not
sleep, the necessary hours the nextday you have another but another behavior to,

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another personality, another way to faceyour conflicts, your problems, what
comes to you throwing life, notthen basic needs, like feeding. Well,
that' s also a part I' m passionate about. I had
a father who was a naturist doctorwho devoted very fifty years of his life

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to being yoga and who lived it. That' s why I' m
also very attracted to the health issueand how you can respond to life when
you' re well eaten, wellasleep. And today, the kids and
also the adults have a Netflix Joeswho is you know what their main competition
is and so says in c orat some point. Their main competition is

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not other platforms. His main competitionis the number of hours he' s
going to take you out of yoursleep. I mean, they don'
t want you to hurt. Netflixis willing to take out a lot more
shows and series and movies that welove and say hey it' s ten

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o' clock, they' reall asleep and I' m going to
follow them from here at twelve o' clock, from here at one o
' clock, but tomorrow he startsstudying at six o' clock. So
Netflix says my competition is not otherplatforms. My competition is the number of
hours the consumer has to be subtractedfrom. How do you think it'
s me, I mean, andstill, video games are taking away hours

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that kids should devote to being inthe sun, to playing, to having
meeting relationships with their friends. So, yeah, I think that forty percent
and this is a few minutes talk, not that we wouldn' t have
time to board and I' mnot the expert either, but that'

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s this bit to say. Here' s a way to have those tools.
That we can take them to schools, we can take them to universities,
we can take them home? Wecan take them to the organizations so
that people have the purpose of lifethat they have in place also in the

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hours that you are there, eighthours that most people say now is is
this the online modality and also manyuniversities realized. It' s not the
answer. Nor online for everything,because then this interaction of young people is
lost. If you say so,you see us in the cafeteria, in
our free time, that is nowyoung people need and it has been shown

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not. The online is not foreveryone, nor for everything, nor at
all times that we use the technologyuntil it does not harm us, that
it gives us all the benefits,but that we also say we are as
the first pillar of relationship that wecan go to university and that embrace,

(21:38):
that greeting hears jas twenty we willhave a coffee after class. It'
s just that your day looks different, totally different. I' m finishing
my lecture right now, I'm shutting down the computer, and I
' m not talking to anyone aboutthat hug, that crap, that relationship.
Let us not let those things belost because they seem very trivial without

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being of any importance, for theyare not accurate. And besides, this
thing that I love, that yousay that happiness is cultivated, it'
s super true and it' sgrown every day since you walk out and
smile next door or since you meeta friend and give him a real hug,
or since you go out to exerciseor sleep your eight hours by regulations
and it' s a book.I think sometimes we don' t give

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ourselves this time and we' reover- stressed. We do not give
ourselves this time and, in fact, in many countries methodologies are already being
implemented, especially for schools, ofwhat we are discussing a few days ago
on issues of mindfulness and the spiritualtheme. This is something super important to
take back in our lives, becauseit will also help us to understand ourselves,

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to get to know each other betterand, above all, to achieve
and cultivate that purpose. Not becausemany times maybe we don' t even
know what our real purpose is andwe' re in life in airplane mode,
in automatic mode and we don't know what' s going on
with us. We wake up,we go to work, we make food,
we are with the children, wetake to their classes for those who

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have parents and we go to seeNetflix and we fall asleep. I think
we have to make that kind ofbig changes that make us happy. It
can just be having tea in theafternoon and seeing the roof exactly exactly and
that and not getting penalized the momentyou say. I have this hour of

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rest to do absolutely nothing, becausethe mind also needs and your body and
I think we have as much criticizedthat you say to take a tea and
turn to see the roof. Hey, what' s wrong with you,
what are you doing, what areyou doing? It' s not that
that' s also very valuable timesand with this life of trajín and productivity,

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and that I love Joe recognizing thattaking in and seeing the roof.
We have to teach our children tooand that it is not bad, that
is, wait for me a pauseand this nap that was done before in
the families, is taking the napof twenty minutes, because it repairs is

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a pause and as a society,we are being pushed not to pause and
that also influences our well- beingand our exact happiness. In fact,
I am, I am promoter ofthe plane mode, but also of being
in plane mode, so since takingthis pause. In fact, it is
proven that twenty minutes a day ifthis is ideal. That is why you

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see in China that in the breaksof their jobs they give them a certain
time so that they can sleep betweenwork. So here I wanted to ask
you how mindful is practiced, howcan we begin to meditate? You'
re an expert on all this,what would you recommend to start a person

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who' s not involved in eitherof these two issues. Yeah, well,
look. I think it' sa discipline to know how to meditate.
I saw him with my parents.The two were devoted for a long
time and every day I saw itas a discipline in which it is not.
I sit and I do a head- turned posture and you' re

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really good at flexibility. And thathas nothing to do with your moment of
meditation. And I think we alsorecognize that we are different in the way
we find ourselves. Everyone in thatway so connect and many people talk about
blanking their minds or not thinking aboutanything. Not that you have also need

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a moment where the mind is listeningto information, but it is agitated and
that if you find that peace connectionwalking with the dog. But if you
find those 20 minutes I' mgoing to learn music. Or you know
that for me it' s superimportant the feeling part, not the tissue,

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to put on mud to feel themusic. I believe that everyone has
to discover that moment of peace andpause, that we need to teach the
children to find those moments too.Not then do I say yes I saw
the way to respond and the mindtrains not to respond. I had a

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dad who was an example to methen that the environment didn' t matter
if I was in chaos and Isaw an extremely measured dad that I said
to see and at that time Iwondered and we didn' t keep asking
him. He was not born withthat, with that fifty percent, both
where that emotional intelligence, but apartin the other fifty percent he cultivated it

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because every day of his life hewas a highly disciplined person and told us
not to give power to the outside. You have the power to follow how
you are, that is, ifyou are happy right now, enjoy being
happy, you are eating and nobodytakes that pleasure away from you. Not

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right now, I' m enjoyingit. So my dad was a lot
of respect rituals at that time andevery day. Spending time to meditate,
to connect doesn' t have tobe religious. It' s with you
to listen to you and also tothink about where I love you. You
want to lead I love it andabove all here plays a very important role

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in the subject of mindful people whojustly teach in schools, not how to
receive failures. Not in schools dothey teach children a lot, especially that
they can face certain failures, becausein schools they sometimes teach us only to
be competitive, to create, todevelop. And sometimes we' re all

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looking for that happy happiness of thatforty percent. If we are not so
overwhelmed, because the one next dooris doing better than me, no,
then trying to think that those littlefailures are going to be the way to
success, not and that this wholepath of well- being is being built
and that no matter all the challengeswe are facing we all experience many challenges

(28:36):
day by day and see them witha positive attitude and take away this negative
mentality. Not like this. Thankyou so much. Miriam I loved this
episode. The truth. I thinkit takes a lot and listen to people
like you, not these visionaries ofwell- being. I' m ready
to listen to a wellness conference ofyours, to create and to grow.

(29:00):
I think it' s going tobe a lot of inspiration for the people
who are listening to us and Idon' t know if you want to
add anything else. No. Thankyou very much. I' ll leave
another talk to you, another meeting. This is part of me of my
forty percent to find people like you, to dedicate, therefore, spaces to

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share with your people, with yourfollowers, because you want them to be
better. You' re not alreadyfinding a way to help. Then let
' s leave this as another littlecoffee pending and talk about these subjects that
I love. Thank you so muchand I close it so I admire the

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way you wear your forty percent.Thank you very much, Miriam This is
one more episode of how such planemode and chao jooscar Bajal see you in
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