Former IDF Soldiers & Holocaust Survivors Debunk Israeli Propaganda About Occupied Palestine

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And now welcome to another episode ofDown the rabbit Hole. Here's your
host. It's Popeye. Ladies andgentlemen, Welcome to another live edition of
rabbit Hole Radio. It is Saturday, April twenty seventh, twenty twenty four.

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On tonight's edition, I have aspecial presentation for you. I have
a couple of clips I'm going toplay. Plus, I went and remastered
an older broadcast that I did tenyears ago about the situation in Gaza and
the ongoing genocide that's going on overthere. And this was again the show

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I'm going to play for you,and I edited it down to the important
part of the show. It's aboutan hour and thirty minutes. And then
I have a bunch of other stuffI'm going to play for you. But
that show is ten years ago,and I was discussing the very real events
that are going on right now thatcould push us into World War three.

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What am I talking about? I'mtalking about the Gaza Palestine Israel conflict.
What's going on, and here intwenty twenty four, there's been a lot
more attention paid to it. I'mgoing to get into that part too.
But the reason I'm playing all thisstuff is to not jump on top of

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the bandwagon and, you know,try to beat Israel in its head with
a bat, because a lot ofthe noise that's out there right now is
just that it's noise. I believethat a lot of these protesters are paid.
They are outside agitators, and that'snot uncommon. A lot of this

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past week, there was a lotof colleges that had protests going on at
the universities. And the universities Iforget which one of them put it out,
it wasn't Columbia, it was anotherone. They had asked the police
to come in and clear the protestersout. Well, they put out a

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statement later. I was out inI want to say it was at California
University. Anyway, they explained thata lot of the protesters were not students
but outside agitators. So we've seenthis again and again and again over the
course of time, even going backten fifteen years ago. The cops used

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to dress up as black block andgo break windows to then give the uniform
police an excuse to come in andcattle everybody and beat them and arrest them.
Same kind of concept here. Youhave the agitators themselves may not even
realize. In many cases, they'remore effective when they don't realize that they're

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being used. So they get thesepeople, these outside agitators riled up,
they bring them in. They're likeprofessional protesters, and they just go in
and they create chaos, and thenthey get the locals riled up, and
then you have these big, bigprotests which then turn chaotic. It's being
done on purpose. I believe thatMasad, the Israeli version of the CIA,

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their intelligence agency, and it wouldn'tsurprise me if shind Bet, which
is like their version of the SecretService, it wouldn't surprise me at all
to learn that they may be incahoots with the ADL and others APACK,

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you know, these different groups payingpeople behind the scenes funneling money or organizing
anger. Why would they do that? Why would they want to aim the
gun at themselves? Popeye? Becausethen they can decry, Oh my god,
it's anti Semitism. Look what they'redoing to us. They hate us

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because we're Jews. And I'm tryingto cut through all of that rhetoric,
the muddying of the waters, becausethe criticism of what Israel is doing in
Palestine and in the Gaza strip islegitimate. It's legitimate to criticize what's going
on now. The attack in October, it's another thing I have a question

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about. I've been questioning it sinceday one. How did they not know
that was going to happen? Howdid they not know that that was going
to happen. It just doesn't makeany sense to me that they didn't know
that. It's shady Masad knows everythingexcept when they're going to get attacked.
I don't believe it anyway that givesthem as to attack Gaza and mow the

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grass, as they say, Andyou'll hear me mention that in one of
the video clips that I play.That's a disgusting reference that they have too.
When they go into Gaza. TheIDEA refers to it as mowing the
grass, and they go in theThey've gone in the gaza repeatedly over the
years. And you'll hear me bringthat up in the clip I'm going to
play for y'all. So let's getright to it. The first thing I'm

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going to bring up is the clipfrom this clip's got to be fifteen twenty
years old. This is Amy Goodmanand she's interviewing a former Israeli minister from
the Kanesse, which is, youknow, their leading body of governing body

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like we have Congress and the Senateand all that, they have the Kanesset,
and this former member of the Kanesse, this former is Raeli minister,
explains how they use the label ofanti Semitism to shut down any legitimate criticism
of Israel. She's gonna explain that, and again it's important that I lay

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out the facts for you about theatrocities that Israel and the IDEF have committed
in a clear, concise, calmmanner, because the protesters aren't getting their
point across, and all they're doingis getting hatred and anger aimed at them.

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And that's how again, that kindof behavior that if you step back
and you understand how things work.That's being done on purpose. It's to
muddy the waters about the discussion aboutwhat's going on in the Gaza strip now
Hamas is a complete separate issue.I'm talking about what goes on on a

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daily basis, the settlements. You'regonna I'm gonna play a video about a
young lady named Rachel Corey, whoyou never here mentioned. I'll get into
all that, but I don't wantto get too ahead of myself. First,
let's play the video of the Israeliformer Israeli minister talking about how they
use anti Semitism as a weapon,or the label of anti Semitism as a

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weapon. Yours is a voice ofcriticism we don't often hear in the United
States. Often when there is dissentexpressed in the United States against policies of
the Israeli government, people here arecalled anti Semitic. What is your response
to that, as an Israeli jrue, Well, it's a trick. We

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always use it. When from Europesomebody is criticizing is Well, then we
bring out the Holocaust. When inthis country people are criticizing is Well,
then there are anti Semitic and theorganization is strong and has a lot of
money, and the ties teen Israeland the American establish Jewish establishment are very

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strong, and they're strong in thiscountry. As you know. They have
power, which it's okay. Theyare talented people and they have powered money
and the media and other things.And their attitude is Israel my country,
right or wrong? The identified fictionand they are not ready to hear criticism.

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And it's very easy to blame peoplewho criticize certain acts of Israeli government
as antisemitics and to bring up theHolocaust and the suffering of the Jewish people
and that justify everything we do tothe Palestinians. So there you go,

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ladies and gentlemen. You can clearlysee that it's a lie. I mean
you just heard it right from aformer Israeli minister's mouth that they use it
as a tool to shut down legitimatecriticism. And I mentioned that clip all

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the time on air and people arelike, what huh, I can't find
it, and they go on YouTubeand they can't find it because of course
it's been removed. So I dugthrough the archives that I have, so
I have like ten terabytes of archives. I dug through them to find that
for you because I thought it wasimportant that y'all hear it, and not

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only hear it. See back inthe day, I used to only be
able to play the audio. Ilove. One of the things I love
about streaming is that we can actuallyplay video too. The show that I'm
going to play for you on afew minutes that I did, the older
broadcast that I did when I wentand edited and remastered it, and you

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know, back then, ten yearsago, I was just doing audio,
just doing radio. So I actuallyre edited the whole thing and went and
found the original videos that I hadplayed in it ten years ago, and
then edited everything together. So insteadof just hearing audio, you're actually going
to get to see the video andput a you know, a face to

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the person that you're hearing speak.Whether it's a Holocaust survivor whether it's former
IDF soldiers, it's important that youactually see them. It gives it more
weight. The next video I'm goingto bring up here is a little older.
It is a little beat up,so you know, forgive the the
boxingess. But I had to actuallyuse Windows Media Player. That's why when

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you use Windows Media Player. Youget that little white bar there at the
top up here right here. ButI had to use Windows Media Player because
this is such an old video clipthat it was in WMV form. I
actually had to edit it together.It was three separate little small clips from
back in the day when Max Newsold old school channel on YouTube used to

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put tons of stuff up, andyou know, you only had fifteen minute
segments to do it. So hehad to split this up into three and
then I busted it back together.So forgive you know, some of the
roughness of the video. The soundis great because I redid the sound,
but the video is This video isat least eighteen years old. Nineteen years

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old. The young lady that it'sdiscussing is Rachel Corey. Rachel Corey was
killed on March sixteenth, two thousandand three, at the age of twenty
three in Rafa. Rachel was anAmerican citizen. And you're gonna hear from
her parents and stuff. You're gonnalearn about her. She's never mentioned whenever

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I hear about like the settlers andPalestinians and Israelis, and you never hear
her name mentioned, not once.You just never hear Rachel's name mentioned,
So I think it's important that everybodylearns who Rachel Corey is. So here
we go. This is a storyof Rachel coreyra his wife, and his
three small children are inside. IsraeliDefense Force says that their assignment is to

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sweep the area of booby traps andto uncovered tunnels that might be used by
the Palestinian resistance. The people livingin Ralpha have reason to think otherwise.
They fear that this is another homedemolition. The border town of Rafa has
seen thousands of homes destroyed in theprevious months as the IDEAF works to clear
a security zone around the border.Every other structure in this area has already

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been knocked down. This house standsalone in a sea of rubble. I
cannot sleep, you know, I'mthinking we sound I open see men house?
What happened to prepare yourself like thesefopen the door? Notice everything I

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didn't know? Maybe I would loveit more. Maybe eight members of a
group known as the International Solidarity Movementhave positioned themselves in front of the house
in an attempt to obstruct the bulldozer'smovements. Yeah you just after three o'clock

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warning shots are fired from the tankand then shot grenades and tear gas,
but the group of internationals continue theirprotests. By three point thirty of the
work had come to a halt,and eventually the bulldozers and tanks begin to

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withdraw toward the border. Some timebefore five o'clock, the bulldozers are ordered
to return to the area and tocomplete the work. The Internationals believe that
the house is about to be destroyed. They know that small children are inside.

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Rachel Corey is one of the internationalprotesters in the area. She's been
living in the house of doctor Nsralaand his family since leaving her home in
Olympia, Washington, seven weeks earlier. Now she's rushing to position herself between
the bulldozer and the house. Whois Rachel Corey? What was she doing
in this small Palestinian border town andwhy would she risk her own life to

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protect a family she had known forless than two months. In the summer,
the Russians grow so tall you canhide in them and be completely invisible.
This is where I came from.Tunnels through Russians. I could spend

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all the light hours of all thedays in tunnels through rushes in the middle
of the estuary, in the mouthof Perry Creek. This is where I
came from, and this is whereI would have liked to stay, sunburned
and hidden in close to water,making up overton histories about shipwrecks. To
his family Routs, Rachel was ouryoungest child. We have three kids,

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and she was the baby. Welive at the very you know, at
the tip of Puget Sound and ona little stream. And she writes about
the rushes in the water, whichin the springtime they start from nothing and
they grow up, and she talksabout wanting to hide in those rushes.
That's where she would like to havestayed a sunburned, you know, in

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the Russies. But of course lifedrew her in other directions. Rachel became
after nine to eleven, like allof us, she was very much moved
by that. But I think afterthe first few weeks of sort of outrage
and wondering what happened to our world, and she decided to become a peace
activist. With that, she wantedto connect with people and engage them around

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the question of why would someone hateus? How could someone see us Americans
as the enemy? There were membersof the International solid Air who had been
in the West Bank and also oneof our friends to Kasa and Rafa,

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and so she started to learn aboutthat, and I think she became convinced
that the Israeli Palestine conflict is itwas really the store point of the whole
Middle East. It's the crux ofwhere some of this poison goes out into
the world. Rachel dug a littlebit deeper in that founding. I think

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that Palestinians are are often forgotten inthat narrative, and that one of the
most forgotten places among that forgotten butis Rafa, the very southern tip is
a very conservative Muslim community. Rafain itself is a community on the border
strip and with Egypt, and thatborder strip has had over a thousand homes

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Palisadinan homes demolished on it, andthat has affected that community profoundly. Many
people that were made homeless for thesecond or third time, having been refugees
in the past by those demolitions.It's a community that's very traumatized by the
experiences. And it's a community thatis largely made up of children. I

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think almost half of the population ischildren under the age of eighteen. People
don't have access to even clean drinkingwater. They don't have the ability to
travel from Gosa to the West Bankto their families. They don't have the
ability to even get paid to dotheir job anymore because there's no economic structure

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in place anymore. There's no money. These are basic human rights that are
being taken away. She finally decidedthat she was she needed to go and
see for herself, as she putit, who was on the other end
and what the other end of ourtax dollars that is used for military Rachel
was twenty three when she decided todo this, and and so she's not

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asking for permission. It wasn't somethingthat we were real excited about her doing.
On the other hand, you can'task your child to be something less
than what they can be. Iknow how much it just meant to her
as a human being and as thehuman being she was coming to be,

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to find meaning in her life,to find something that seemed really important to
work on it. I think sherecognized that sometimes if you're able to,
you do need to pick yourself upand go and see for yourself what is
happening. So in the end youkind of have to support it and than

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we did. Rachel's plan was totravel to Gaza to initiate a sister city
program between her hometown of Olympia andthe Palestinian city of Rafa. On January
twenty second, she arrived at EastJerusalem and began a two day train course
at the West Bank, headquarters ofthe International Solidarity Movement. I'm gonna pause
it and fast forward a little bitbecause for time purposes to be able to

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squeeze it in and the other clipsI got to play. I want to
move it up, but I wantyou to see what happened to Rachel.
So I'm going to move it upa little bit. Kill that critical moment
in our lives when we begin toask what kind of person do I want
to be one of? This happensevery day. Dirt got right to the

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the ISAM members cheat and in acouple of instances, in case of well,
he would rolled over into some concertinawire, that rolled wire, that
military wire that you see. Betwhen others shouted than that, bulldozers stopped
and with Alice she was pushed upagainst the wall. That again when people
started shouting, the bulldozers stopped.That afternoon, the bulldozers stopped and went

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away to the board her, andthen in a few minutes they came back
and one of the bulldozers took arun pretty much straight at the house of
the Israelis, and Rachel would haveknown that that family was home. They
were always home and in the house, and she took a stand in front
of the house. But this timethe bulldozer did not stop. It went

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over her. She was at eyelevel with the driver of the bulldozer.
She was up. Her head andupper torso were actually above the blade of
the bulldozer, so he could veryclearly see that she was there, her
in our orange fluorescent jacket that shewas wearing. But instead of stopping at
this point, he continued forward,which buried her legs, and the bulldozer

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continued forward until her body would beunder the cab, and then it backed
up, they say, without liftinga scoop. I just hadn't have an
image of her as I lost soher using golfed, just scrabbling desperately trying
free herself from choinna get out ofthe Yeah, why the bulldozer? Then,

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actually Rachel was alive somehow, andwhen her friends ran up to her.
She said, I think my backis broken. I'd taken my phone
out to cool ambulance and so shesaid, my back is broken, and
dropped my phone and just hold ontoher head to try and stay blosed as
fine. And it was just sucha miracle. It's like, how does
she survive? She looks a mess, but it doesn't matter. She's alive.

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She's talking. But that's the lastthing she was able to say.
And since then we've talked to thePalestinian ambulance drivers who said that essentially when
they got there, they didn't seeany sign alive. And I think she
probably not only was there she justcrushed and stuff, but probably she choked

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on stating that the found olymp pipe. Rachel was killed on March State this
Sunday. This is not at allwhat I asked for when I come into
this world. This is not atall what the people here asked for when
they came into this world. Thisis not the world you and Dad wanted

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me to come into when you decidedto have me. This is not what
I meant when I looked at CapitolLake and said, this is the wide
world and I'm coming to it.I did not mean that I was coming
into a world where I could livea comfortable life and possibly with no effort
at all, existing complete unawareness ofmy participation in genocide. A few days

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after the death of Rachel Corey,a memorial service was seldom to spot an
idea of tenter parent sprayed those inattendance. Twos fired warning shots to disperse
the crowd. The builders of theGrusrachel Corey to death was driven by a

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Russian immigrant code named Dobie. Hewas an Army reservist and an experienced Builderser
operator, and while the driver showedno remorse for the result of the day's
events, he refutes the reports theeyewitnesses and claims that he had no knowledge
that Corey was in front of hismachine. The State Department reported that the

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President had a telephone conversation with PrimeMinister Sharon and Apprentister Sharon promised a thorough,
credible and transparent investigation with a reportto be given to the US government.
In that report, they say thatthe Israeli military the three vehicles did

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retreat towards the border for a littlewhile, and the reason for that is
that their standing orders were they couldnot disperse civilians when they were doing these
these operations. Then they were tocease their operations. So they stopped radio
back and and got a new orderthat said that the internationals were not to

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interfere with their work and to goback in and by their report. Five
minutes later, Rachel was killed.Im for time purposes, I'm just gonna
stop the video there, but I'mgonna I'm going to upload the full video
to my Rumble channel just so everybodycan watch the full take thirty minutes,

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uh, and learn who Rachel Coreywas. But I constantly in this conversation,
I constantly see you know, peopletalking about like the Palestinian settlers and
the plight that they go through andeverything else, But no one ever talks
about Rachel Corey. Uh, youknow, no one ever brings her up.
And that girl, that young lady, she died to protect the she

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didn't bring up the other clip here. She de I to protect an innocent
family that she had only met weeksbefore. And you can obviously see the
IDEF goes in with their bulldozers.They're bulldozing these homes on Palestinian land right

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on the border so that they canextend their settlements. So the settlements that
were attacked in October, a lotof those settlements used to be on Palestinian
land, and the IDEF goes inand bulldozes houses and then they build these
settlements the kibbutzes. Although you know, and I'm not justifying any attacks anything

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Hamas did, there's no justification forwhat they did in October. It was
horrible. They attacked civilians. Theywere cowards. They did attack some military
targets, but they attacked mainly civiliansand that's usually what happens in warfare,
civilians get targeted. But again nota justification. My point is that it's

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important to have a full understanding ofthe truth without it being muddied and without
your opinion being swayed by disinformation.Now I'm gonna get into this next clip
I'm gonna bring up, and thisone has a few different people you're gonna
hear from on this presentation that Idid ten years ago, and it's important

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to hear this whole thing. I'mgonna full screen it and let you guys
watch it. There's video and everything. You're gonna hear from a couple Holocaust
survivors. You're gonna hear from formerIDF soldiers, and then you're gonna hear
me explain and play some video clipsfor you about how your opinion and everything's
manipulated. And again you're gonna hearfrom Yuri Bezmanoff, You're gonna hear from

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g Edward Griffin, You're gonna hearfrom Alan Watt. So get your thinking
caps on, get your pens andyour pencils, get ready to take some
notes. Ladies and gentlemen. Herewe go. This is the second piece
of this important clip that I wantto play for It's about an hour and
twenty eight minutes, So here wego. Well, first hour, we're
going to cover the slaughter in Gaza. Again, you're not going to hear

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me rant and rave about it.I did too broadcasts last week where I
was ranting and raving about it.I think this time, I think this
time you should hear from former IDFsoldiers themselves and survivors of the Holocaust what
they have to say about what's goingon in Gaza and what Israel is doing.
Because if you if you watch television, all you're going to see is

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pro Israel crap, and the newsmedia has been showing a little bit more
about the Palestinian side, but theystill push the propaganda and a lot of
Americans here are just brainwashed, which, by the way, we're also going
to get into an hour two howAmericans are brainwashed and how that actually happens,
and that's a little bit more indetailed, So we'll spend hour two

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going over that. And I gotsome audio clips I want to play,
which I've played before, but it'simperative that you all hear them again.
I couldn't go over this information enoughwith you, So we're going to get
into that. But first an hourone here, I want you to hear
from Holocaust survivors, people that survivedNazi Germany and their tyrannical control over Europe.

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And look, I know there's alot of people out there that say
the Holocaust didn't happen, and they, you know, blah blah blah blah.
I know that perhaps Israel and peoplethat you know, scholars that work
with you know, via apac Zionism, whatever, whatever their roots are,
whatever their cause is, money,political ideology, whatever, there are people
out there that have skeward facts andthings and they and Israel's government does use

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the Holocaust as an excuse to dowhat it does to the people of Gaza,
which is the same thing that wasdone to the Jews back in the
late thirties and the forties, andall the other people, by the way,
that were rounded up in the concentrationcamps. As I said before,
I don't have a problem believing thatsix million Jews were rounded up, Considering
something like twenty one or twenty twomillion people were rounded up all throughout Europe,

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I don't have a problem believing thatsix million of them could have been
of you know, the Jewish faith. I don't have a problem believing then
at all. So it's also nottold that we killed a lot of them
ourselves in bombing raids. They wereslave labor and a lot of the factories
and stuff that we blew up.So history itself has been skewered on ball
sides. Things have been used,but the event itself where people were rounded

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up and put into camps, whateveryou want to call it. You want
to call it the Holocaust, whichactually means fiery sacrifice, you want to
call it, whatever, the roundup, whatever the police state Martial Law
nineteen thirty eight, whatever the hellyou want to label you know, actually
it goes back even earlier than that, but whatever you want to label the
event that took place where they wererounding everybody up throughout Europe, first in

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Germany, and then as they conqueredeach country, they would come and round
people up and put them in thecamps and use them as slave labor.
Some were killed immediately, but many, most of them, I would say,
at least probably sixty five to seventypercent of them were used as slave
labor and work to death. Otherswere used to experiment on by like people
like doctor Mangela and his horde.So there's just a lot of stuff that's

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not brought to the table. It'sdumb down to the very base level.
They get rid of most of theimportant information and they just say, oh
my god, it was the Jewsthat were rounded up. And then people
come in and go, no,no, that's not true at all.
Here are all these numbers, andthen creates this infighting where it's one choice
or the other. Again, it'sthis faux illusion or this illusion of faux

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choice I call it, where youhave to either take one side, where
you believe the Holocaust exactly as theytell you what happened, or you're a
denier. You can't have this intermediategray area where you're actually, okay,
yeah it happened. But some ofthe stuff that you're saying, you're tweaking
and you're not telling the truth.Because again, we killed a lot of
people in bombing raids. They don'twant that's not popular. They don't want
to tell you that the heroes,the veterans of World War two bombed people

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that were in slave labor camps.They don't want you to know about that,
and other such things like, oh, we gave twenty thousand prisoners of
war to the Soviets at the endof the war. Oh yeah, you
want to read a good book,go read Target Patent. That's a great
book. It gets into some ofthe hidden history of World War two.
Why Patent was assassinated. Yes,I said assassinated. I've had the author
on twice. Go back in myarchives and look it up. Go look

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it up, Target Patent. Historyis definitely different than what you've been told.
And in order to understand what's goingon today, we have to go
back to World War two. Sogo do your research. I could sit
here for two hours pontificating and bloviating, but I still wouldn't get out everything
that I wanted to get out.And look, let's be honest, a

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two hour broadcast or even an hourcovering one subject and an hour covering another
is not enough time to consider yourselfan expert after you hear it, So
you have to go out and doyour research. You must. Don't just
listen to me and go well,Popeye said it, so he must be
right. No, don't think thatyou know, take what I say as

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you know truth, But don't justtake it as gospel and run with it,
you know, don't What I meanby that is, don't think I
would lie to you. But alsodon't not go out and do the research
like I want you to do theresearch I want you to. I want
you to go do the research yourself. As I said many times, you
could leave the horse to water,but you can't make it drink. So

(35:15):
I could sit here and tell youall this stuff, and I'm going to
play some audio and stuff for youtonight and point things out. But if
you're not paying attention, if you'renot actually doing the homework yourself, you're
not going to learn anything. Youknow, you're listening. At that point,
it becomes a two hour informational broadcastwhere you're just listening to whatever I
say and going, oh, he'sright because he's Popeye. And at that
point, I'm no better to youthan the mainstream media is because the mainstream

(35:38):
media comes on and gives you cannedgarbage or whatever they want to put out,
and you and to the people thatbelieve it, go okay, well
the media, so so it mostbe true. Right, Well, it's
the same thing. Don't believe anythingI tell you to be gospel or anything
any of the other hosts on thisnetwork tell you to be gospel. Believe
us because we've been proven to notlie and to tell the truth, but

(36:00):
always verify, like Kennedy said,trust but verify. So you can trust
us, but don't just trust usand blindly trust us. Trust us because
you can see that when we talkto you about a subject. And this
goes for all the hosts in thisnetwork. There's no crappy hosts on this
network. Every one of them isawesome. No matter what topics are talked
about, it's brought to you ina fashion that is truthful. Okay,

(36:23):
So you don't at least you havethat going at least you know, I
want you to look at it likethat, like, yes, respect us
and respect the information that we giveyou based on the fact that we're not
liars. But do not just takeit as gospel and go well Popeye sadit
or Joe Joseph said it, orkeV Baker said it, or whoever else
said it. No, take notes. Actually urge you guys to sit with

(36:47):
a pad and a pen during thebroadcast and take notes about what we're talking
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was right, Okay, okay,and then that gives us a little more
credibility. That's where our credibility shouldcome from. Our credibility should not come
from just because I have a radioshow. No, the credibility should come

(37:08):
from you listening, taking notes,and going and doing the homework yourself and
verifying. Trust but verify. LikeKennedy said, anyway, I want to
get into these clips I have becauseI have about sixteen minutes that I want
to fit both of these in inthe first half here and then the second
half of the first hour I have, it's pretty much going to think up

(37:28):
the whole second thirty minutes, youknow, twenty five thirty minutes of the
broadcast year to second segment, andit's two IDF soldiers speaking the truth about
what goes on, what they experiencedduring the I think they were in two
thousand and six. You'll hear it. It was either two thousand and six
or two thousand and eight. You'llhear it in the video. And there's

(37:51):
two separate you know, there aretwo soldiers, so it's not just one,
it's two separate soldiers. They givetheir full names and everything. They're
on camera, and I'll I'll tryto find the the YouTube link for it,
but I'll give you the name atleast the name of the video on
air, so you can look itup on YouTube and you can pass the
link around yourself. But you're goingto hear these two IDF former idea soldiers
talk about what they did, whatthey saw, what they witnessed, and

(38:14):
why they don't agree with it.So a little bit of truth from actually
people that were on the ground insteadof the propaganda masters like CNN and all
these other mouthpieces. The IDF's mouthpieceand the rest of these people. Anyway,
I want to get to the clips, So before we get into the
IDF soldiers, we're going to getinto two former Hallowell. There are two

(38:35):
Holocaust survivors, so I guess twoformer prisoners of war, prisoners of the
camps. I guess you could saywhatever you want to call it. They
were survivors of the Nazi human roundup. If you don't like the word Holocaust,
okay, anyway, I want youto hear what they have to say
about what's going on in Gaza.I want you to hear what they have

(38:58):
to say over what these people gothrough. Now, the first one is
a lady, and you'll hear herstory. The audio isn't the greatest,
you know, because I got itfrom YouTube and I tried to clean it
up a bit, but it iswhat it is. It's the only copy
I could find of this interview withthis lady. So I'll play with the
audio levels while it's airing here,try to give you the best sound.

(39:21):
Anyway, Here we go. Holocaustsurvivor explains how Nazism is the exact same
thing as Zionism. Here we go. Oh, by the way, this
is from two thousand and nine.So I mean, you can obviously,
over the past couple of years,these events, the invasion into Gaza and
or the attack on Gaza, whateveryou want to call it. You know,

(39:43):
every couple of years, as theIsraelis call it, mowing the grass
over there. Really disgusting the waythey look at it. But those people
have been dehumanized, just like oursoldiers were for Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyway,
back to the video. The reasonI pointed out that it was two
thousand and nine is it's twenty fourteen, and when you listen to what she's
saying and what the talking about,it's the same thing that you hear in
the news today. Well, hi, Miles, if they stop the rocket

(40:05):
fire, we'll stop dropping two thousandpounds jadeams. The past few weeks have
seen violence erupt once again between Israeland Palestine, and the high tensions engendered
by the conflict have caused a largedegree of polarization amongst both communities. Many
now simply view the conflict as beingbetween Arab and jew However, I went

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along to an exhibit on Palestinian Uniteddepicting the occupation to meet one woman who
certainly doesn't fit into that narrow stereotype. Suzan Weiss as a sixty two year
old Jewish survivor of the Holocaust Tunadasin Canada, firmly opposed to injustice of
any kind after having experienced firsthand thehorrors of the Nazi occupation. She's a
leading member of the organization Not inOur Name, dedicated to voicing Jewish opposition

(40:50):
to Zionism. She's strident supported thePalestinian cause and has attracted controversy for comparing
the situation in Kaza to the infamouswar or Ghetto. What are your memories
the Holocaust? Well, when Iwas two years old, my mother was
taken away from me and sent toconcentration camp, and that she died in

(41:21):
Auschwitz. And I was put therewith the underground movement, and I was
hidden in a farming village in allthem. And when the war ended,

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I was told that my mother couldnot go home and she had decided,
And I was also told that myfather had suffered a mortal wound due to
a bombing of his prisoner camp inGermany. From that point I felt very

(42:05):
alone, very lost, and Ihad no one else, I had no
other family, and what's similarity betweenthe war in Palestine and domain the methods
of the of Hitler of very muchin my opinion and evidence in those uh

(42:28):
in the Gaza Ghetto, there's abig wall that means and enveloped the Gaza
Ghetto. This is very similar tothe what happened to the Jews. We
had first of all, four hundredand forty thousands Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto.

(42:52):
In the Gaza Ghetto there's one anda half million people were dying of
starvation and there was no medical access. The same things and the Gaza Ghetto,
they can't get out of the checkpointsas in the Water Ghetto, and
Jews were humiliated, forced to undressat checkpoints, the same thing as the

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Gaza Ghetto. They are humiliated,forced to crawl on dress. They killed
people indiscriminately, and that's the samething that's happening with the Gather Ghetto.
Children, many many children are justkilled, you know, indiscriminately. They

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throw a rock their shop. Thequestion was for me, with a country
just for the Jews actually stopped antiSemitism. And I thought about it,

(44:05):
and I thought to myself, well, how would they be able to stop
anti Semitism. If they stole theland, if they took the land from
other people might slay the Jews withzion And so what theo political problem turns
into racial or religion one. Zionismis a political ideology. And the fact

(44:34):
is is the Palestinians have nothing againstthe Jews. They have something against Zionism,
and the whole world should have somethingagainst Zionism. Now, I belong
to an organization called not in ourName, but we don't want Zionists policies

(44:55):
to be done in the peak andin the name of Jewish people. We
need to have the Jews defend thePalestinians because of what happened to the Jews
themselves. They are two kinds ofJews that came out of the Holocaust,

(45:15):
one who said never again for theJews and the other who said never again
a human time. Many people blamethe Palestinians for the violence, and some
would in fight. This the majordifference between the situation with the Jews in

(45:36):
Germany and Poland and between what's goingon in Palasa. How RESPONSI are we
going to blame the Jews for fightingback? In Wassaw, we had the
Warsaw uprising young people who were fightingwith stones, but anything they could against.

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Uh, you know the attacks inPalestine. They they have a right
to defend themselves. So what areyour hopes for the teacher? My hope
is that the Palestinians are victorious.The Holocaust must not rest as a memory

(46:28):
exclusively for Jewish people. It mustbe an impulse to the struggle against racism
and violence against the persecuted throughout theworld, including an especially Palestine. May
the spirit of the Warsaw Ghetto uprisingSiam and guys, what a powerful lady,

(46:54):
What a powerful message, right fromsomeone that survived what happened all those
years ago? And what did shesay? There were two types of people
that came out of that event,the ones that say that said never again
for the Jews, and then theothers that said never again for humanity.
Ah see, there couldn't There canbe lessons learned from history. Ladies and

(47:17):
gentlemen. What do I say allthe time? We need to get our
humanity back. She was saying theexact same thing I said, again,
a survivor of that horrific event,Okay, and that horrific time period.
And here you hear her speaking commonsense and not saying we should do this
again to another set of different people. Ah, that's the truth. That's

(47:43):
not the propaganda. That's the truth. Okay, let's get to the next
one, because we've got a fewminutes left here in this segment, here's
a second Holocaust survivor speaking out againstZionism and what's going on in Gaza.
I was nine when Hitler came topower, but I was about ten months
in Outwitz, and I learned alot about the doctrines of a fascist state.

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The lesson I took from my stayin Outwitz was anybody belonged to the
Jewish people is not allowed to behaveever like our perpetrator, the people who
did the thing to us. Look, I think why I have a certain
right to be proud of being ofJewish origin is because the Jews were the

(48:43):
pioneers of inter human ethics, andthe Jewish idea of how to tread a
foreigner, how to treat a servant, which is in the Old Testament,
was taken up by nobody less thanJesus Christ, who was the last of

(49:07):
the great Jewish prophets. The prophetsin the whole tradition wanted to stress and
to stress the ethical content of Judaism. And so there's reason enough to be
proud. And what is happening nowin Israel towards the Palestinians is exactly the

(49:30):
opposite. It is exactly the opposite. They treat them like vermin. They
talk about them in terms I mean, like, for instance, the chief
of staff of the Israeli Army recentlythe Palestinians are cancerous growth. I mean

(49:51):
that type of talking is exactly theopposite, and is actually it's actually like
Nazi talking. That's what was saidabout me when I was a boy,
a Jewish boy in Germany under theNazis. You know when when when the
Nazis guessed the Jews, the worldwas silent. Now the world is silent

(50:17):
while the Jews of the Israeli harassed, humiliate this proper and and and and
and steal away land from the Palestinians. And the world is silent. And
I want to awake the world becauseany criticism on the policies of Israel is

(50:39):
hampered and made impossible by a terribletrick and crime of Israeli propaganda, that
any criticism on the politics of Israelcomes out is induced by anti Semitic feelings,

(51:00):
and our main purpose is to showto the world that we are Jews,
and we are conscious Jews, andwe want to show that you must
criticize Israel if you at all wantanything good for the Jews in the world,
because what Israel is doing is destroyingthe Jewish world and the Jewish heritage.

(51:22):
He's right, and again powerful truthcoming from someone that Go ahead,
try to call them an anti Semi, try to call them a self hating
Jew. Come up with whatever labelyou'd like. And I'm speaking to the
people that will come out and speakrhetoric and garbage and propaganda, Southern Poverty

(51:43):
Law Center, the ADL and allthose groups. You can call these people
what you want. To the peoplethat support Israel blindly. You can call
these people what you want. Butthe truth is they're survivors and they're speaking
truth to power. And the reasonit makes you uncomfortable is because it is
true, and it takes you outof your comfort zone, because you'd rather

(52:04):
live in your little preconceived bubble thanpop it and face the real world outside.
That's just two people. Wait,because in a minute, we go
to break, and on the otherside of that three minutes when we come
back, I'm gonna immediately, youknow, I'll bring it in from break,
and then I'm gonna go to theclips for time purposes. I'm just
gonna let the whole clip play soyou can hear it. You're gonna have

(52:30):
a whole segment of two Ideaf soldierstelling you their experiences, what it was
like when they were actually serving,what they witnessed, the racism towards the
Palestinian people. And what better ofa place to get your information from.
You just heard from two survivors ofthe Holocaust, the German police state round

(52:53):
up right telling you they don't agreewith what's going on and know what's going
on exactly what happened to the peoplein the thirties that the Nazis rounded up.
And then coming up on the otherside of the break, two IDF
soldiers, former IDF soldiers. There'sa lot more of them that speak out
about this than you know, justhidden from you. Stay tuned, and

(53:16):
as always, do your research.We'll bring it back. We are back,
ladies and gentlemen, So getting rightback into it, I'm going to
play some more evidence for you debunkingthe propaganda that you see coming out screaming
that oh, poor Israel, poorIsrael, and those evil Palestinians, they
should all be wiped off the map. And I ranted about it twice last

(53:38):
week, as I said, it'sin the archives and over at Federaljack dot
com. Israel to the Woodshed,Part one in part two tonight, this
is almost like part three, andthey're being taken to the woodshed by not
by a radio show host, butin the first segment by two Holocaust survivors,

(54:00):
now by two former IDF soldiers.Here we go a little bit of
truth. Alternate focus interviews a ChaiSharon and Nome Kyute, both veterans of
the Israeli Defense Forces. All youngIsraelis, male and female, with few
exceptions, are required to serve twoto three years of active military duty in

(54:21):
the Israeli Defense Forces. Sharon andCayute served during the Second Intifada, a
four year long bloodbath that claimed thelives of over three thousand Palestinians and nine
hundred fifty Israelis. After thorough introspection, these young men have chosen to speak
out about their experiences as self describedbrutal occupiers of a disputed land, and

(54:43):
Sharon and Cayute are not alone.They are members of a new forum for
young Israeli Defense Forces veterans called Breakingthe Silence Now a worldwide exhibition. Breaking
the Silence features photo at art displaysand live speeches. Now Sharon and you
share their stories. Most of themissions that my unit was given and carried

(55:17):
out to where arrest operations, searchoperations, going into taking over cities or
towns or villages, of course inthe night time, and sometimes you would
continue in the same place for afew days, searching one house to the
other, searching them, taking overhouses as observation points, or arresting people.

(55:40):
And that's your routine. My routinewas, or our routine was that
we never knew where we're going tobe from one minute together. One night
we could be Enoblis. The nextname, we could be in Gaza,
the next nime, we could bein Hebron. And at a certain point
you just lose track of where youare, who you are, and what

(56:01):
you're doing because you disrupt people's liveson a daily basis, And for me,
that was the most I think whenI look at it today, when
I reflect on it today as someonewho couldn't do that during your service because
you can't really live in a youknow, denial way of life where you

(56:21):
can't look at what you're doing,you can't really reflect on it. But
when I reflect on it today fromthis perspective, I can say that that
was probably for me the deepest exampleof corruption, not the extreme cases where
it was shooting or stuff like that, but just thinking that there were hundreds

(56:42):
of thousands of families that couldn't haveone peaceful night of sleep in their homes.
I mean, who in today,in the USA, in Israel and
anywhere else would be willing to livelike that, not knowing if at two
in the morning twenty soldiers will takeover your house for a week, not

(57:04):
knowing, sitting in your in yourliving room and suddenly hearing smashing on the
wall and there is a hole inthe wall, and suddenly twenty soldiers come
to visit. And and for me, that was routine. The newspaper so
just an article about confiscation, carkeys, confiscation and when you detain car

(57:35):
during four curfew, when you detaincars because they just passed the line that
close to checkpoint whatever. And it'snot the article and the soldier that brought
out more or less one hundred carkeys and it brought it to the press,
but the response of the spokesman ofthe idea, the spoken of the

(57:57):
idea that's said, this is anextreme case, rotten apple. It will
be checked, examined and won't happenagain. And now I gave the order
to take Palestinian carkis and to detaincars in my unit. I saw in
the West Bank boxes full of carkids and ideas that were taken, and

(58:21):
we're supposed to be attend. Butand then I know my father read the
newspaper for me, and I knowthat he believes, I mean, he's
from the from a different generation wherethings maybe were when people could believe the
system, and he really thinks thatthis is an extreme case that would be

(58:44):
that won't happen again. And forme that was it was a point a
point of understentment that I'm not backfor what I did. And I didn't
do it for fun. I gotmy orders. I thought it was okay.
I thought I was a part ofsystem that protectives were from Tata.
And then I understand that it's youknow, it's just a game keeping information

(59:08):
inside and not letting anybody know.And how can you criticize, how can
you ask questions? And that wasmaybe one of the first times that I
asked what's going on here? Andone time in when we finished in operation
in Ablus and and it was reallya destructive We were five or six days

(59:30):
straight in Aubulus with a lot ofIdea Forces, tanks and EPCs, and
it was very destructive. I mean, the whole infrastructure of the city was
torn up. There was a lotof houses that were either damaged or even
destroyed, and there was a lotof shooting, mostly by the IDEF into

(59:51):
the city. And when we gotout of the other first, the first
thing that happened when we left thecity got back to the army Barrick was
I heard a radio news flash,which happens every hour in Israel, and
it was going like all of forcesleft Nablus after research and arrest operation and
found this and that and that's it. And I think that even then I

(01:00:15):
suddenly realized my parents are not sittingat home. They're listening to the radio,
and they're sure that here we aretheir heroes, their son. They
sent found weapons and ammunition and didthis and the and that and so important
things to defend this country. Butthey don't know the truth. They don't
know that ninety nine percent of whatwe did there was destroy people's property,

(01:00:37):
destroy their lives. But they noone told them that. And I think,
like, no, when he justrealized what the you know, where
the truth is and where it's goingtoday, I can say that that was
one time that I really started tothink of how the reality is being kept,

(01:00:58):
you know, under the surface,hidden from the public. You heard
the radio or news and TV sayingidea forces returned fire to sources of fire.
Now you know that you're you're shootingit, or you know that there
is no something in daylight sources offire in urban areas and in night time
you know that you can't really froma barrack far away, you can't really

(01:01:22):
see most of the time the exactplace you're shooting it, and that sources
of fire, which as a soldier, you know that it's just the title
good for news. But and thisthis on us, we didn't hear it
while serving. I want to giveyou one example of something that we've exposed
also in the press in Israel andin form press a few months ago about

(01:01:47):
a revenge attack that was launched bythe Ideas after one night in February two
thousand and two, to tears fromthe Islamic you had attacked an idea of
checkpoint and killing killed six Idea soldiers. The same night, the same night,

(01:02:08):
the chief of Staff, the Ministerof Defense, not some sergeant at
a checkpoint. You know, thisis policy right from the top, decided
to launch a revenge rate against Palestinianofficers, some of them just traffic officers,
all around the west banking Gunda.The next day, fifteen Palestinian officers

(01:02:29):
were killed, were dead, reporteddead. And we spoke with four five
different five different soldiers and officers intwo different units that were part of these
raids and part of the attacks onfour different checkpoints in different areas geographically had

(01:02:51):
no connection whatsoever to the place thatwas attacked by the Knight on the idea
of checkpoint. No connection. Onewas an one was near Romala, and
they just attacked and the orders werejust go there, shoot to kill.
And in the briefing by the commanders, by the high ranking commanders, commanders
of units, brigade commanders, theywere told that this is revenge. We're

(01:03:16):
going to revenge the blood of oursoldiers. So when you asked me where
it comes from. This was notsome spontaneous nineteen twenty year old kid that
moved his mind, that you know, went out of control for a second
and slapped someone. This was policy. People sat down in offices, convenient,

(01:03:40):
comfortable offices and decided to kill peopleas revenge. And the next day
fifteen people reported dead that had noconnection whatsoever to the attack on the ideas.
So when we have to and weexposed this, and then, you
know, we were expecting something dramaticto change, because when people ask me,

(01:04:03):
don't you think something should happen?Of course I think something should happen.
But do you really think that theIsraeli public or someone will be brave
enough to say that the Minister ofDefense has to be investigating, that the
chief of staff has to be investigated. This is not a nineteen twenty year
old or even a lieutenant that shouldbe investigating. This is the system,

(01:04:25):
This is the government, This isthe policy. The story behind breaking the
science and what it s triyed tois that one day in March two thousand
and four, a young guy amonth before this discharge woke up in the

(01:04:49):
morning and found out that he can'tlook at himself in the mirth. That
guy's name was Huda Child. He'sthe founder of breaking the silence, and
he started to talk with his friends, with people that were his soldiers,
his commanders, especially about Hebron.He served fourteen months in Hebron. In
the second MONTHI final, and thatevolved into a exhibition of pictures taken by

(01:05:16):
soldiers, not photographers, not journalists, just pictures that you know, eighteen
nineteen year olds took for memories,and we took that out of photo albums,
presented over sixty of them. It'sover sixty soldiers giving video testimonies about
their Hebron service. And that evolvedfrom there to what it is today and

(01:05:41):
much much much bigger group of soldiersthat served all around occupied territories as conscripts
or as officers. In the secondIntifinal, and we've interviewed over three hundred,
mostly discharged, some still in servicesoldiers in the ideas and the message

(01:06:01):
or what we're trying to do withall this is when we were discharged.
The first thing, the fundamental thingthat we all felt was the amazing distance
or gap of information between what isreally going on in occupied territories, what
we're really doing over there, andwhat is known back home to our parents,
to our neighbors, to our publicfigures and leaders, what is told

(01:06:25):
by the press, what is toldby the idea. And we felt a
moral obligation as much as a socialobligation, as people who grew up in
Israel, did their military service,who loved their country and are very very
concerned about how we will look tomorrow, how we will raise our children tomorrow,

(01:06:46):
because we don't want to see ourselvesanywhere else. And out of that
concern, we felt the moral obligationof bringing that information, the true stories
of what we're doing is is occupiedterritories chose the public and raising a true
public debate on all platforms, press, politicians, everywhere you can think of,

(01:07:12):
about the real corruption, the moralcorruption that is happening in the occupied
territories, the price of sending moreand more generations to be occupiers. Regular
sciences try to fight the code ofsilence, which has many aspects. First
of all, and the most importantone, as we see it, is
the personal one. When you standin a post or in a checkpoint,

(01:07:38):
and I commanded kalunga checkpoint between Jerusalemand Ramana, who are almost three thousand
palastine across every day. And yourjob, even if you don't want to
do it, you stop people fromliving the life that they should have.
That you stop. You take theirfreedom to go to work, you take
the freedom to go to university.And many times, even if you don't

(01:08:02):
want to do it to you humiliatepeople. You make them stand in nine
four hours. And when you goback home after a month of doing it,
you have a weekend break. Youdon't come home to your go friend
or to your mother and say,hey, the day before yesterday I saw
somebody more or less your age,mummy. And unless we're waiting the sound
for five hours because I didn't havea permission to lose the past, I

(01:08:26):
mean that daily life of occupation ofcontrolling people is the first aspect of the
silence breaking. The silence is aperson that it's something. First of all,
it's not anything to look at yourselfin the mirror and see what you
really have done. And on theother side, it's very it's a very

(01:08:47):
good feeling to feel a hero totalk about the fights, the times that
you were fighting terrorists and that yousaw them and realizing the damage for the
population, like the hatred that you'vecreated, is hard. And most when
we call people friends, when wehave telephones from units in the army and

(01:09:11):
we start calling to people, mostof them say, you know, we
kind of agree with what you're doing. Some agree more, some less,
but leave me alone. I mean, I've I've served, I've done it,
I've left the country for a yearto forget about it. I'm back
here. Just let's go. Andso it's not that easy to get to

(01:09:32):
people, to get people to talk, even if they even if they agree
with the total lady. But wehave, as the igh said, we've
interviewed over three hundred soldiers, andyou need to understand that's not a one
hour interview. It's or TV interview. People someone tells you about two years

(01:09:53):
or three years out of his life. It's an important to understand the two
different aspects or to different types oftestimonies that we've collected until now, the
first few months, most of thetestimonies that we exposed were testimonies on the
routine daily brutality and individual or groupcorruption that happens, humiliation, abuse,

(01:10:18):
theft, looting, things that forisraelis mostly but I think for any person
that wants to deny can say rottenapples extreme cases, people that broke the
law, broke regulations and should beconvicted or prosecuted, and it does.

(01:10:41):
It sometimes doesn't even matter that youtell them, well, these are stories
about units, about hundreds or thousandsof soldiers, and that was something that
we were exposing for a long time. And the last campaign that we did
was a collection of massive collection oftestimonies on policies, procedures, orders,

(01:11:04):
you know, things that can't bevery easily swept under the rug and called
round apples because they're the system.And the main issue that we were addressing
in this campaign was were the rulesof engagements? The rules of engagement in
Israel are classified. They in thisCintifada are not even written down, even

(01:11:26):
though in pastimes the IDF used toissue or distribute pocketbooks with the rules of
engagement in docupied territories to every conscriptand reservist. In this cintifada, not
only didn't they distribute this, itis all passed down orally. There is
no document written down that is passeddown to the officers in the field or
the soldiers. And we have decidedthat especially because the most dominant thing or

(01:11:56):
dramatic thing that has happened in theSecondifia is the casualties. Is that people
are being killed, and children,regular people. It said, people are
being killed. And it has beenmuch more violent on both sides, both
on the Israeli signed with the suicidebombers and both on the Pastian side.
With all the actions that are beingdone by the ideas, and we've exposed

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a massive collection of those, Ithink for me, the one that sticks
out the most. He's an officerfrom an elite unit telling us about his
experiences in Ruffia, and he tellshis testimony is very very long, so
I won't say it all, buthe talks about two main issues. One

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is the demolition of houses, andhe describes how in the briefing they were
told that the procedure is you don'tgo into Raugha on foot because it was
right after the APC's blew up.If you remember, that was in the
summer of two thousand and four andwas very hectic and you couldn't walk by
foot, so you come with APC'stanks and bulldozer D nine caterpillar bulldozers,

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chiant monsters. And before you evensay something to the family that you're going
to take their house, before youdo anything, the D nine, the
bulldozer digs eight digs eight meter deepditch surrounding three and sixty degrees surrounding the
house. Then he punches a hole. You don't say anything to the family.

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You just punch a hole into oneof the walls. And then the
APC comes right up to the tothe to the family's home and you lower
the REMP and the soldiers going.And I was asking him who's deciding which
houses and then he describes me howthey demolish, how they destroy every house
in that area that bothers their observationthat might be threatening everything. And I

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ask him who is given who woulddecide is what's destroyed and he says,
well, the officers in the field. And he has to understand these could
be lieutenant it's twenty one year oldlieutenants decide what's a destroy and not to
destroy. And then when I askhim, and no one told you criterias
of what you can and when youcan't, I mean if the officer decides
that it doesn't like I don't knowa yellow house, and the house is

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yellow, exactly the words that Iused, and he says, well it
doesn't like yellow, it can destroyed. And it's that easy. And I
think for me that was an amazingit's it's still something that I carry every
day because it's exactly how the procedures, how the policy are so corrupt from

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the start that when they are carriedout in the field, the amazing power
that you have as a nineteen twentyyear old soldier carrying out these policies,
these procedures on the field are justso tragic or are disastrous. H H.

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This person gives you us support.My Ministry of Foreign Affair of Israel
that said that the public opinion,of the public opinion in the US is
the most powerful weapon that idea hasor that Israel has, and I think

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in this case is right. AndI think that the public opinion here and
society here in Munisa and enable usto do many things that that in my
in my opinion, of bringing toour social destruction. And I can give

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you another extreme example which a soldierthat a final interviewed right one of us
interviewed and he's in the unit thatthe engineer unit. They're actually what they're
doing is to blow up things,bridges, houses, and the idea didn't

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do them at the beginning of that. The first time they used them was
nine eleven, ten minutes after theairplane hit the tower, the first oaplane
hit the tower. They're on theway to Genine to blow up houses.
While that, I can tell youwhat he said. The soldier that was
interviewed, the big brother wasn't looking, wasn't watching. So that's how much

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things are connected. And I thinkwe realized after the second campaign that after
the campaign of the Rule of Engagementand the systematic reasons for innocent casualties,
we realized that it was published,it was well publicized, but it didn't

(01:17:10):
bring up any real debate in society. And because this is the main reasons,
the most the most powerful one,I think is that these are things
that you can't criticize. I mean, you can't classify as what apple.
It's hard for society to face andand I think we we realized that we

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that there was a bigger game goingon, that that we're not the only
player in this uh m hm.In this game, and that's where that's
what that's why we're here. Ithink just that one thing to know that

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the the the public opinion of theUnited States is, as he said,
something that enables us to continue thisreality and just like we're doing back home,
trying to force sometimes this truth thestory is onto the Israeli public so
they'll be aware of them. Isexactly what we came here to do,

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is to bring this to the homesof the American society, use Americans and
all Americans to tell them this iswhat is really going on. It's that
time that you know what you're enabling. Very powerful message again. Two former

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idea of soldiers. You can lookup the video on YouTube yourself. I
suggest you watch it. Spread it. It's called burning Conscious. Israeli Soldiers
speak Out. Just type in Israelisoldiers speak out. It'll pop up speaking
truth to bouer one oh one.I don't have to do it myself.

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I'll let history's witnesses do it forme. It's more powerful that way.
We'll right back pretty short minutes.Well, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back
to our number two here on tonight'slive edition of Down the rabbit hole.
I am your host, Popeye fromFederal Jack dot com. It's July twenty
fourth, twenty fourteen. We areback live tonight. And if you missed

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the first hour you, I guessyou could consider it Israel to the woodshed
part three in the first hour,and I really didn't have to take them
to the woodshed. I actually allowedJews. I guess you could say,
if you want to break it downinto the base level thinking that the media

(01:19:55):
tries to push across your brain Jews, which is really people that all the
Jewish faith, but people that weresurvivors of the Holocaust of Jewish faith will
say would shadd them? In thefirst segment, and in the second segment,
Israeli citizens themselves former soldiers of theIDF. I didn't have to say

(01:20:18):
anything, and they even explain howit's a trick to use the term anti
semi anti Semitism to try to pushoff any legitimate criticism of Israel, which
is something that's been said multiple timesby people that tried to criticize not the
Israeli people, but the people thatlive in the country, but the government

(01:20:39):
that runs the country, which isthe same thing that happens here. But
when you criticize our current tyrant inchief, you're called a racist. If
Hillary gets in, you'll be calleda sexist. If you criticize Israel,
well you're an anti semi. Seeit's just the label when you understand what
that term is. When you understand, that's a form of mind control.

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See, they simplify everything down.Everything is broken down to a very base
level. If you look at things, you step outside of everything. You
look at it from an analytical pointof view. When you start to look
at things and let your brain dothe work, turn those computers on.
Ladies and gentlemen, you're all capableof this. Just because I'm a smart
individual doesn't mean that I can dothis. Stream well, you should just
tune it into pop Eye because they'lltell you everything. No, your brain

(01:21:25):
is a muscle. I suggest youwork it and cause it to grow more
fresh, healthy brain cells. Okay, it can happen. Do the research.
Eat the proper foods too. Anyway, I want you to exercise your
brains. I don't want you tofall for this. So I want you
to be able to look at thiswith an analytical viewpoint and understand that all
of this is the same garbage nomatter where it's coming from, if it's
coming from Israel, our government.And again when I say Israel, it's

(01:21:47):
not the Jews, it's not eventhe people of Israel. Yes, there
are some people in there that I'veplayed the audio where they're like, yes,
we're fascist. You know, theyshould just clean Palestine off the map,
clean God's off, wipe it off, completely, eradicate everyone, kill
them all who cares. There arepeople that have said very racist things.
We have those individuals in our societyhere in America as well. Does that

(01:22:09):
mean all Americans should be judged bythat, No, because we're not all
like that, just like all thepeople that live in Israel aren't like that.
So I'm not referring to every singlelittle person that lives in Israel.
That's not what I'm referring to atall. Okay, I'm just trying to
get the message across that it's theIsraeli government, which again Tel Aviv Rothschild

(01:22:29):
Boulevard. Any questions as to whoactually controls and runs things do you really
need to ask yourself any more questionsabout who runs things there Rothchild Boulevard.
By the way, same people thatrun and control things over here. Oh
look, oh, look a connection. Oh and it's not anti Semitic,
because oh I will hear you're notcalled an anti semi If you go against

(01:22:50):
the government, what are you called? You're called a racist. Again,
you'll be called sexist if it's afemale president, if they get hitlery in
and they're already using that. Ifyou're a goods tillary, it's because you
don't want a female to be president, which I've gotten into that that's just
propaganda more mind control, which isactually what the subject here of our two

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is propaganda, mind control, Howthe narrative is twisted, How television sports
are used to control your brain,all of it. Now, a lot
of people are going to say,what do you mean how television and sports
are used to control my brain?Even snoring dog here in the background,
monsters, like, what do youmean television and sports used to control your
brain? You would have think you'veheard it enough, right anyway, how

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is it used to control your brain? Besides the obvious with the flickerate and
everything else, which we'll get into. And by the way, there's a
lot of smart individuals out there inthe world that do not want to own
televisions. They won't have a televisionin their house. G I wondered why.
And these are people with very highIQs backgrounds, you know, college

(01:23:53):
degrees, multiple degrees, very highup some PhDs in some cases, and
they won't have a television in theirhouse. But I guess they're crazy.
Couldn't foil hatters, Well, youcrazy shouldn't foil out wearing conspiracy theories,
right, Maybe they just know somethingthat you should be paying attention to.
How about that there was a timethat people thought the world was flat too,

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and you were chastised. People werelocked up because they said, well,
the world is round, and it'snot the center of the solar system,
the Sun is, the Earth isnot the center of all things.
You mean, man is not thecenter of everything. Ego, ego,
alert alert, ego. Anyway,I have let me see, we got
about twenty minutes when I got plentyof time here. I want to see

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which one I'm gonna air first.I'm gonna air one this segment and one
the second, because I want tobe able to explain a little bit about
both of them. So I thinkfirst what I'll do is I'll air how
television and sports the clip I haveabout how television and sports are used to
manipulate It's actually from one of Jones'smovies. I believe it was Fall of
the Republic. He was interviewing AlanWatt and this I have this section.

(01:25:00):
It's like an eleven minute section,but I want you to hear this interview
with Alan Watt. They sent outand I can't remember who did It was
probably Aaron that went over and interviewedhim. I'll have to ask him,
but it's probably Aaron Dykes that didit. Anyway, Alan Watt does this
amazing explanation and that's why I've playedthis before on air. He does this
amazing explanation of how television and modernsports culture is used to control the masses.

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So I'll play that first, getthat out of the way, and
then I want to get into inthe second segment. I want to place
a piece of audio for you andbreak him down from a man named Uri
Besmianov. Now I have the fullinterview that g Edward Griffin did with him,
and it was back in the eightiesif I remember, I think it
was like nineteen eighty two, nineteeneighty three, something around there, in

(01:25:50):
the early eighties. It's like anhour and twenty one minutes watch the whole
thing. This is only a small, you know, about eight and a
half minute clip from it, andit's kind of it's a couple pieces piece
together. So because you know,he kind of went off on a tangent
a little bit, but he hadto. He had to explain his father
and his background and everything else,because if he didn't, then you wouldn't

(01:26:13):
be able to understand the you know, or fully comprehend what he was laying
down. You get it. SoI do encourage you to watch the full
one, but the eight and ahalf minute clip is rather important. Anyway,
I want to get to this otherclip real quick. First, as
I said, it's Alan Watt.You can go find the whole movie.
I'm sure on YouTube, I thinkchange the channel. Our good buddy Ken

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Webb has it up on his channel. It's was it Fall of the Republic?
It was one of Jones's flicks.But he did this his crew,
not him. His crew did thisamazing interview with Alan Watt, and Alan
Watt breaks down in detail but veryeasy to understand. The language for everybody

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across the board, across the worldto understand how television is used. And
believe me, if you're not inthe United States and you think, well
that's just the US. Wherever youare, if you're watching TV, you're
being programmed too. That's why theywant televisions all all over the world.
That's why they want people in littlemud huts to have a TV and a
signal because that's their only you know, their only outlet to the world.

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And if that's their only outlet andthey that outlet can be filled with lies
and garbage, well well then theyjust control everything. Now, don't they?
So use your brains? I mean, it was introduced to us right
back in the day, not everybodyhad a TV. Think about it.
Why would they? Why would theywant people that live in a in a

(01:27:38):
small like hut with leaky roofs andeverything that still have a television? You
see it all the time? Whyis that? Propaganda? Propaganda? Propaganda?
Mind control works no matter what countryyou're in or what language you speak.
As long as they understand the basicsof how to tweak your brain and
manipulate you, they will. Withthat being said years Alan Watt on how

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they use they being the powers thatshouldn't be they use television and sports to
manipulate and to destroy our current culture. Again, if I remember correctly,
this is from one of Jones's flicks, Follow the Republic Anyway, Here we
go, mister Allan Watt, bringingentertainment two thousands of people through its magic
to enjoy a combination of the radio, motion pictures and the stage right in

(01:28:27):
the comfort of our own homes.Simply by pushing a button and putting a
dial. These cells, with theirelectrical charges are scanned by a stream of
electrons, completing thirty pictures a second. Compare that food picture with these of
the day, and you can judgefor yourself how far along the road to

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perfection television has prepped. Most peoplestill today think that all entertainment to do
with movies drama is is therefore nothingmore than their entertainment. It never ever
was that case. Of course,televation can't perform such miracles as this.

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Yeah, but perhaps there's no harmwish that it could. The greatest social
messages are promoted through movies and drama. High drama through the fixation of emotive
sequences. Emotional sequences, not logicalfactual sequences, but pushing points across in

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an emotional emotional way which register andfix in the mind. So emotional content
is very very important. Rather thangoing through all an actual discussion or an
argument using logic and facts, there'sno debates. And when you're being downloaded
through fiction, your guard is down. The sensor part of your brain is
not an action. It isn't sayingyes, I agree with this, I

(01:29:56):
disagree with that, as you wouldin a debate or a lecture. Your
actually in an alpha state being completelydownloaded with new ideas. Throughout history,
social engineers have refined techniques designed tocontrol large populations. About one hundred years
ago, this big organization with manybranches. They wanted to rule the world,

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basically using Britain as a nucleus ofa system, an embryo which also
is going to be joined with theUS under the Anglo American establishment. Wrote
about the kind of culture and thechanges of culture over one hundred year period
that they would actually design, implementand bring in and eachgu Wels talked about

(01:30:43):
it too. He talked about arenasand he says arenas could be put up
across the world for sports, forinstance. Now that time, sports was
something that children, school children wereinto adults, became adults and onto adult
things. So it was unimaginable atthe time that people could actually believe that

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there's even a need for adult sportsand entertainment, never mind having our arenas
builds across the world. But hesaid, we can do this and voist
basically a sports culture for the malesusing a tribal system. We're all tribaled
to an extent. That's why weeven bother to vote for a tribal leader

(01:31:28):
as as well understood, that's whywe're supplied with these leaders. And because
that rich Man was to become moredisengaged from his own destiny as the expert
class arose, it was decided thatthe males would get their outlet basically being
gradually becoming helpless as males through sports. Therefore, they have a tribal team

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they could identify with, they couldcheer them on as they were winning in
their own personal lives. They weregetting nowhere, they were getting disenfranchised in
a sense as experts took over decisionmaking for them and all kinds of fields.
So this was psychology at use,planned before they even implemented the sports.

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When radio came along, of course, they used that to the maximum,
sports for the men, soaps basicallyfor the women, and then ink
in television. As I say withitselfha state, a hypnotic state, and
sure enough, around the nineteen sixties, really fifties and sixties, it took

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off, It really really took off, and men became glues on Saturday nights
to the sports shows. A cultureindustry which is called by its own the
culture industry. The Soviet Union hada department called the Culture Industry. Their
actors and directors were called the culturalleaders leaders because they would like computer,

(01:33:00):
people are like computers. All youhave to do is keep giving them new
updates every so often, and youcan change an entire country, or a
nation, or a block of nationswho're all getting the same uploads upgrades at
the same time along certain paths.Today we call it political correctness. Most

(01:33:24):
people want to belong to their peergroup. They want to be the same
as everyone else where it comes toopinions. In fact, they judge their
own personal sanity by bouncing ideas oftheir neighbors and friends, who will answer
back and agree on these same topicsin kind. It doesn't matter if the

(01:33:44):
topics or of what you're given orfacts or ut our nonsense, as long
as everyone agrees at the same time, they'll say what I'm sane, and
your friends will all agree because they'vehad the same information given to them,
but they've been programmed. And I'msad because I know it's hard for people
like that to take an interest toserious interest in world affairs, to take

(01:34:05):
a serious interest in what their electedofficials are doing, and they're not going
to be really inclined to study ordiscover the deception that's being used against them.
And so I'm sad because I seeall of that in a flash in
my mind as being an indication ofhow easy it is for the masses to

(01:34:27):
be manipulated. Scientific dictatorship understands whatmakes human beings tick. They understand our
psychology, they've studied it, andthey're using it against us. But the
minute the public awakens to the factthat there is an agenda to manipulate them,
and the second the public realizes thatthey are being conditioned and control,

(01:34:47):
the establishment begins to lose that edgethey've got over people. So all I
ask viewers to do is to thinkfor themselves and to study public relations,
to study advertising, to study propagandaand to realize how much of it is
out there in their daily lives,and then make the decision for yourself.
I just want people to think ontheir own and to not have their decisions

(01:35:10):
and their thoughts and their ideas prepackagedand basically downloaded into them. If it's
on TV and a famous face sayssomething, then it must be true.
He doesn't have to show your factsor anything else. You've been brought up
with these faces. That's why theykeep these guys on television into their seventies
and eighties. You've grown up withthis father figure who's on television every night

(01:35:35):
at six o'clock in your house,in your room, steering right at you.
And he's a father figure. Wouldhe tell you aligne so you naturally
never suspect him. And this sameman will lead you through new topics.
He'll introduce experts on the topics thathave the little summary at the end of

(01:35:56):
every talk, and you are nowleft with the conclusion that presented to you
as you don't arrive at it,it's given to you, and it's good
enough for you. While I wasgrowing up, people were talking on their
front porches, neighbors were playing baseballthat were nightly barbecues. You don't see
that anymore. We've lost our communities. You drive through neighborhoods, you see

(01:36:17):
the blue glow of television sets.We're losing our humanity. So if you
want to rebel against the globalists thesocial engineers, start by turning the TV
off a few hours a day andactually getting to know your neighbors, getting
outside that comfort zone, expanding yourhorizons by coming together as communities, by

(01:36:38):
getting to know our neighbors, wedefeat the social engineers. We're programmed today
perfectly, just like machines. Wetell you that with the Rasinski. Rasinski
said in two inges, and thisguy was way up with the NSA.

(01:37:01):
He's a master geo politician. Heworks and admits he works in twenty to
fifty year periods to do with geopoliticsin other countries. But he said himself,
the public will shortly be unable tothink or reason for themselves. It
was meaning by that the form ofinformation that was given to them, the

(01:37:26):
type the formulas that were in NewStand in the nineteen seventies. This is
eventually they'll be unable to think orreason for themselves. And Eventually he said
that they will expect the media todo other thinking and reasoning for them.
Well, that's happened today. That'swhy people today can't think outside of the

(01:37:49):
programming from television. It's a bignew Brazinski, Obama's main foreign policy advisor,
talks about how a culture personality canbe artificially manufactured to influence the masses.
In the first months of my administration, to pull our economy. Oh

(01:38:09):
goodness, sorry about that, guys, Uh, to pull our economy back
from the brink, including the largestand most sweeping economic recovery plan in our
nascence history. We were gullible,but were also willingly gullible. We want
a human being, a big Daddy, to come along and make everything right

(01:38:31):
for us, and as long aswe believe that, will always basically get
shafted. H. In addition toJohn, sorry that the I just noticed
that I jumped the gun. Here, go ahead and move it up.
I'd already I had already introduced allyou guys, it's the presidential reality show.

(01:38:57):
When it became an OPRAH production,it became lick. You don't have
a president, you had an actor. They say that politics is show business
for ugly people. You got it? What am I going to tell the
President? I tell him his teleprompteris broken? What will he do?
Then? That's right? Vice Presidentwar criminal Joe Biden? What will he

(01:39:21):
do? Then? I have abetter question for you. It's one that
Luke Rodowski asked you. Oh,I don't know, probably what's six years
ago now, but yeah, sixyears seven years ago, somewhere around there,
maybe maybe a little less between likefive and seven years ago. How
come you were meeting with when youguys were meeting with General Mackmoud Akhamed in

(01:39:43):
the morning of nine to eleven,the very man who had wired one hundred
thousand dollars to the quote unquote ringleader of the nine to eleven hijackers,
Muhammadada, that he had wired hima couple of days before one hundred thousand
dollars, the of the Pakistani IIwho wired one hundred thousand dollars to the

(01:40:05):
supposed nine to eleven hijackers a fewdays before the events that took place on
nine to eleven occurred. You're meetingwith him on the morning of nine to
eleven, and it's a it's adiplomatic thing, is what you told Luke,
you know, well, we didn'tthe rush cruise check when he came

(01:40:26):
here. But this guy had justwired money to the hijackers, and it's
come out. There's reports on this, it's come out. I mean,
it's it's been in congressional testimony.This isn't like conspiracy thorough student foil hackery.
Okay, this is conspiracy fact thatthis actually happened. And you can
see Luke Ardowski the videos on itwas in another one of Jones's flicks.

(01:40:50):
But the you see Luke confront himand he makes fun of Luke and laughs
it off, kind of tells himto go away, and Luke asks a
valid question, what were you doingwith him on the morning of nine to
eleven. This guy was wiring moneyto Muhammad Aada, one of the ringleaders
of the supposed nine to eleven hijackers, and you're wiring him money. But

(01:41:12):
hey, everybody should go out andbuy a shotgun, right, No one
needs an AR fifteen, Joe.Everybody should go buy a shotgun. And
then people listen to you and we'recommitting crimes with shotguns. Well done,
mister Vice president, Well well done. Golf clap for you, sir.
Maybe you could just answer that questionthat Luke asked you all those years ago.
What were you doing on the morningof nine to eleven with General Mackmoud

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Ahmed, the former head of thePakistani II again, the man who wired
a hundred thousand dollars to Muhammad Attaa few days before nine to eleven.
Sir, you have a few thingsto answer for, not not the least
what you've been a part of behindthe scenes or even out in front the

(01:41:54):
past eight years. Well, yourbuddy's been the president and you've been the
advice president, but before when youwere a senator and anything else Sha that
you've been involved in. I mean, you really need to be run through
the grill, Sir. You areone yady individual. Yes, Joe Biden
through the woodshed for a second there. That was an improv through Joe Biden

(01:42:15):
wood shedding. Just I can't standhim. He he plays stupid and he
does come off like he puts hisfoot in his mouth, and he does
put his foot in his mouth.But you know, Gerald he kind of
reminds me of Gerald Ford when GeraldFord was the president, because Gerald Ford
kind of put off this this bumblingfall down moronic you know, do do
do. The media made fun ofhim, but if you actually researched Gerald

(01:42:39):
Ford, he's actually a much moredisgusting individual behind the scenes, like what
he was involved in, the thingshe was connected to business wise and the
like. In fact, if Iremember correctly, I think it was Kathy
O'Brien that mentioned him in her book. I think it was Kathy Transformation of
America. And I mean, youcan research other people and you'll see that

(01:43:04):
other people have said some of thesame things. So you could either say
that their liars and Gerald Ford wasjust a bumbling fool, or perhaps the
bumbling fool was just an act sothat you didn't see how evil the person
was behind the mask. I mean, Cheney was just so evil it just
comes out. I mean, thatguy's so evil. He didn't have a
heart for two years and still lived. He had a pump run off the

(01:43:27):
energizer battery and he still lived,no pulse for two years, and Vader
still lived. Any questions, didn'tthink So anyway, stay tuned, We'll
be right back. Ury Besmian offcoming out. Don't go anywhere, ladies

(01:43:48):
and gentlemen, we are back finalsegment here, So getting back into it
as I was discussing the mind controlbrainwashing that goes on. As I played
the clip, the last segment again, I urge you to go. You
can find it on YouTube. Actually, just type in go to YouTube.
You can watch the visual with itif you go to YouTube and type in.

(01:44:12):
I'll tell you what the name ofis in a second. It's how
television and sports are being used tomanipulate and destroy the Republic. And that
the clips up on YouTube. There'slike multiple people have re uploaded it over
the years. So it's this elevenminute segment and I always play it.
It's a very important part. Youcan go watch the whole movie. If
I remember correctly, it was fromAll the Republic that Alex Jones did.

(01:44:33):
It's go over to ken webs channel. Change the channel. He's got all
these movies over there. You canwatch it for free on YouTube, you
know, if you want to seethe whole thing. But that's the title
of the clip again, is howtelevision and sports are being used to manipulate
and destroy the Republic. It's alsoon Federal Jack. You can look it
up in the Federal Jack dot comsearch bar. How television and sports are

(01:44:56):
being used to manipulate and that thatwill bring up the video. The one
I'm gonna the piece of audio goto play now is from about an hour
and a half long interview that G. Edward Griffin did back in nineteen eighty
five with a man named Yuri Besminoff. There's a former KGB agent who was
trained in subversion techniques, and heexplains the four basic steps to social engineering

(01:45:18):
and socially engineering an entire generation orgenerations multiple into thinking and behaving the way
that the powers that shouldn't be wantthem to. And as I said in
the write up on Federal Jack,I put in the laugh line here and
I put it's shocking because our nationhas been transformed in the exact same way
and followed the exact same steps,and it has been so I couldn't repeat

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this enough, because you know,as much as we talk about this,
there are still people out there thatengage in falling prey to this type of
stuff, and they actually they will, they will buy into mind control once
in a while, depending on whatit is, even if they don't realize
that they're falling into it, andit happens. So then we get new
listeners the time that maybe just tunedin. This is the first week or

(01:46:02):
first time they're even hearing my broadcast, and they're like, WHOA. So
it's important to go over this andreiterate this stuff as much as possible until
people understand it. It's like,I look at my radio show not like
a radio show. You all knowthis. To the older listeners, anybody
that's been listening to me, youknow that. I consider my radio broadcast
to be more so of like makinghistory class cool and fun and going over

(01:46:25):
stuff that you're not told and bringingguest speakers into you know, history class
or whatnot. I don't like tolook at this like an entertainment thing.
It's it's here for your educational value. The key to winning this is education
and waking people up, showing theminformation, giving them information that they do
not have. That's the only reasonwhy the people that are quote unquote in

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charge are in charge. The reasonwhy they're relevant is because they have access
to info that you and I don't. As soon as you and I have
access to the same info, pooftheir relevance goes away because now you don't
have to look up to them tobe your savior. Wow. With the
proper knowledge look what I'm capable of. You know, humanity has been collectively

(01:47:08):
told that we're stupid and we're idiotsand that we can't handle this. So
we walk around like, okay,you can. They're smarter than us.
No, they're not. Okay.The reason why they can control this is
because they've got us thinking that they'resmarter than us. And that's part of
this mind control and manipulation. That'swhy you need to go do your education.
You need to go you know yourself. You need to educate yourself.
You need to you need to wakeyourself up. You need to literally educate

(01:47:31):
yourself first before you can even youknow, stand a chance of talking to
other people about this, because that'swhat happens when people they get truth or
vomit, they just puke. Youknow. Nine eleven was an inside job.
Harp, oh my god, no, no, no, and they
all over people ken trail that youknow, and then people are like,
oh, too much information at once, it's information overload, and you turn
them off. And a lot ofthe times the stuff that you're talking about

(01:47:55):
you might not be fully knowledgeable about. You're only scraping the surface. You're
not really in depth. And ifyou take somebody on that might know something,
or that might might have been feda deeper level of propaganda, and
you can't go up against that.Okay, that creates an issue for you.
You get it, So you needto do the research yourself. The
light at the end of the tunnelis you and me. We will get

(01:48:17):
there. We're gonna win. Ican see it. You can see it.
What did Gandhi say? First theyignore you, then they laugh at
you, then they fight you,then you win. We're in stage three
where they're fighting us, so youwin is stage four. We're almost there.
We need to enlighten ourselves. Now. With that in mind, let's
get to the video of Uri Besmianovand Gierra Griffin. This is again from

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nineteen eighty five. Ladies and gentlemen, back in nineteen eighty five, and
just listen. This is still goingon today, but you can only imagine.
He says it was. We werein danger in nineteen eighty five,
and look where we are now.Our conversation is with mister Yuri Alexandrovitch Besmianof

(01:49:00):
Besmanov was born in nineteen thirty ninein a suburb of Moscow. He was
the son of a high ranking SovietArmy officer. He was educated in the
elite schools inside the Soviet Union andbecame an expert in Indian culture and Indian
languages. He had an outstanding careerwith Novesty, which was and still is,

(01:49:20):
I should say, the Press armor the press agency of the Soviet
Union. It turns out that thisis also a front for the KGB.
He escaped to the West in nineteenseventy after becoming totally disgusted with the Soviet
system, and he did this atgreat risk to his life. He certainly
is one of the world's outstanding expertson the subject of Soviet propaganda and disinformation

(01:49:43):
and active measures. When the Sovietsused the phrase ideological subversion, what do
they mean by the logical subversion?Is the process which is legitimate, over
and open. You can see thatyour own eyes. All you have to
do, all American mass media hasto do is to unplug the bananas from

(01:50:04):
their ears, open up their eyesand they can see it. There's no
mystery, there's nothing to do withespionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering
looks more romantic. It sells theorderance through the advertising. Probably that's why
your Hollywood producers are so crazy aboutJames Bond type of thrillers. But in

(01:50:26):
reality, the main emphasis of theKGB is not in the area of intelligence
at all. According to my opinionand opinion of many de factors of my
caliber, only about fifteen percent oftime, money and manpower is spent on
espionage. As such, the othereighty five percent is a slow process which

(01:50:47):
we call either ideological subversion or activemeasures actively miropriatia in the language of the
KGB, or psychological warfare. Whatthe basicallynions is to change the perception of
reality of every American to such anextent that, despite of the abundance of

(01:51:08):
information, no one is able tocome to sensible conclusions in the interests of
defending themselves, their families, theircommunity, and their country. It's a
great brainwashing process which goes very slow, and it's divided in four basic stages,

(01:51:29):
the first one being demoralization. Ittakes from fifteen to twenty years to
demoralize the nation. Why that manyyears because this is the minimum number of
years which requires to educate one generationof students in the country of your enemy
exposed to the ideology of the enemy. In otherwds. Marxist Leninism ideology is

(01:51:53):
being pumped into the soft heads ofat least three generations of American students without
being challenged or contrabalance by the basicvalues of Americanism American patriotes. The demoralization
process in the United States is basicallycompleted already for the last twenty five years.
Actually it's over fulfilled because demoralization nowreaches such areas where previously not even

(01:52:18):
Comrade and drop Off and all hisexperts would even dream of such a tremendous
success. Most of it is doneby Americans to Americans thanks to lack of
moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter
anymore. A person who was demoralizedis unable to assess true information. The

(01:52:43):
facts tell nothing to him. Evenif I shower him with information with authentic
proof, with documents with pictures,even if I take him by force to
the Soviet Union and show him concentrationcamp, he will refuse to believe it
until he's going to receive a kickin his fat bottom when a military boot

(01:53:05):
crashes his Then he will understand,but not before that. That's the tragic
of the situation of demoralization. Sothe next stage is distabilization. This time
suburger does not care about your ideasand the patterns of your consumption, whether
you junk food and get fat andflabb it doesn't matter anymore this time,

(01:53:26):
and it takes only from two tofive years to distabilize the nation. It's
what matters is essentials, economy,foreign relations, defense systems. And you
can see it quite clearly that insome areas, in such sensitive areas as
its defense and economy, the influenceof Marxist Leninist ideas in the United States

(01:53:50):
is absolutely fantastic. I could neverbelieve it fourteen years ago when I landed
in this part of the world thatthe process will go down fast. The
next stage, of course, iscrisis. It may take only up to
six weeks to bring a country tothe verge of crisis. You can see
it in Central America now, andafter crisis, with a violent change of

(01:54:14):
power, structure and economy, youhave so called the period of normalization.
It may last indefinitely. Normalization isa cynical expression born from Soviet propaganda.
When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakiain sixty eight, Conrad Bression said,
now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia isnormalized. This is what will happen in

(01:54:34):
the United States if you allow allthese schmucks to bring the country to crisis,
to promise people all kinds of goodiesand the paradise on earth, to
destabilize your economy, to eliminate theprinciple of free market competition, and to
put a big broader government in Washington, d C. With the benevolent dictators

(01:54:59):
like Walter Moont. They who willpromise lots of things, never mind whether
the promises are fulfilled or not.Your leftists in the United States, all
these professors and all the beautiful civilrights defender, they are instrumental in the
process of the of the subversion,only to destabilize the nation. When their

(01:55:20):
job is completed, they are notThey are not needed anymore. They know
too much, some of them.When when they get disillusioned, when they
see that Marxist Leninists come to power, obviously they get offended. They think
that they will come to power.That will never happen. Of course,
they will be lined up against thewall and shot. But they may turn

(01:55:41):
into the most bitter enemies of MarxistLeninists when they come to power, and
that's what happened in Nicaragua. Youremember most of these former Marxist Leninists were
either put to prison or one ofthem split and now he's working against instance,
it happened in Grenada when Maurice Bouschopwas he was already a Marxist.
He was executed by a new Marxistwho was more Marxist than this Marxist.

(01:56:04):
Same happened in Afghanistan when first therewas Taraki, he was killed by an
in the Namin was killed by BarbaraKarmal with the help of KGB. Same
happening in Bangladesh when Munjibur Rahman,very pro Soviet leftist, was assassinated by
his own Marxist Leninist military comrades.It's the same pattern everywhere. Was divided

(01:56:26):
in four basic stages demoralization, destimbilization, crisis, normalization. They will be
lined up against the wall and shotshot. I do this service for you
all so you all have the samelevel of knowledge that I do. That

(01:56:47):
way we kind of have an evenplaying field with these pricks, Okay,
Like Fletcher Prouty said when asked whyhe did what he did and why he
spoke out because he knew where theline was. And they said, well,
why do you even bother putting yourfan in any sort of danger and
speaking out. You know, youcould just shut your mouth and you could
live to your happy old days.And Fletcher said, well, I want
to level the playing field. That'swhat he told Lenosenek, and that's what

(01:57:11):
he told others when I asked thatquestion, I want to level the playing
field. He knew it was dangerous, he knew he could have been killed
for what he said, but hehe went He knew where the line was,
But the reason he spoke out wasbecause he wanted to level the playing
field. Well, under that samethinking, I want to level the playing
field. I want humanity to allbe on the same level. Because if

(01:57:33):
we realize once we're mentally all onthe same level, and I don't mean
down in base level thinking, weneed to evolve out of that, then
things like war it it will realizehow stupid and pointless it is. Famine,
well, famine and stuff and povertythat'll get eradicated too, because we'll
realize that, you know, maybeinstead of wasting all this money blowing each

(01:57:56):
other up. We could waste thesame amount of money helping each other out,
and the world as a whole wouldbe a better place. And then
maybe we can explore the oceans andwe can start to reach out to the
stars, and then maybe maybe thewhatever is out there, we'll come back
and be like, Okay, youguys are a little more elevated now.
Who knows. We can't even getto that level until we have to get

(01:58:17):
out of this level of base knowledgebase thinking. The only you're going to
do that is if you go researchfor yourself. Then you have conversations.
Don't be afraid to approach your neighbor, talk to others and say, hey,
there's some important stuff. Don't beafraid to speak truth to power,
stand up, sign to sack up, and do something. Don't worry about

(01:58:38):
criticism. Who cares? Who careswhat they think? That's right, Leonidas,
and that means it's time to go, Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you
for listening. All right, ladiesand gentlemen, I have to end it
there. I had about a minuteleft with y'all, and I just want
to say thank you for tuning intonight, and I hope that you were

(01:59:00):
able to take away some information fromthis presentation tonight, with no rhetoric,
with no screaming yelling, with nointelligence agency funded bs, no chicanery,
just some real information. So withthat, I want to end on a

(01:59:24):
positive note. Like I always do, I'm going to end with my favorite
quote from doctor Martin Luther King Jr. Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only
light can do that. Hate cannotdrive out hate. Only love can do
that. Ladies and gentlemen, Sunshineis the best disinfectant. And that's why
I do these broadcasts. I loveyou all, and I'll see you all

(01:59:46):
again live next week. I'm outof here.

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