Masking The Truth with Donald Jeffries

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One world currency. I imagine thatright now you're feeling a bit like Alice
tumbling down the rabbit hole. Letme tell you why you're here. You're
here because you know something. Whatyou know you can't explain, but you

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feel it. You felt it yourentire life, that there's something wrong in
the world. You don't know whatit is, but it's there, like
a splinter in your mind, drivingyou. Man. It is this feeling
that has brought you to me.This is your last chance. After this,
there is no turning. You takethe blue pill. The story end.

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You wake up in your bed andbelieve whatever you want. You take
the red pill. You stay inWonderland, and I show you how to
beat the rabbit hole. Do allI'm offering is the truth nothing. When
we are opposed around the world bya monolithic and ruleless conspiracy has relies primarily

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on covered means for expanding its sphereof influence. On infiltration instead of invasion,
on subversion instead of elections, onintimidation, instead of free choice,
on guerrillas by night instead of armiesby day. It is a system which
has been scripted vast human and materialresources into the building of a tightening myth

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or highly efficient machine that combine military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific,
and political operations. Its preparations areconcealed, not published. Its mistakes
are buried, not headlined. Itsdescentives are silenced, not praised. No
expenditure is questioned, no rumor isprinted, no secret is revealed. But

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I am asking your help and thetremendous task of informing and alerting the American
people. And now welcome to anotherepisode of Down the rabbit Hole. Here's
your host, It's Popeye. Ladiesand gentlemen, welcome to another live edition

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of rabbit Hole Radio. It isOctober twenty first, two thousand and twenty
three. On tonight's live edition.I have an exceptional guest for you,
and I am not going to wastetime. I'm going to bring him right
up, coming back to the airwaveswith me for a third interview, going

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over his new book, Masking theTruth, author, investigative, researcher,
and all around just awesome human being, mister Donald Jeffries Donald, welcome back
to the broadcast, my brother,Thanks Popeye, wonderful to be back.

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First of all, I want tosay you are a book writing machine.
You I'm still working on trying tofigure out my first book. Hump about
books. Man, you are soinspiring. I just want to tell you
that you really are. Oh,I appreciate that. You know, it's
my full time job now. Ever, since I was fired from my IT

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job five years ago, I can'treenter the workforce. Nobody wants me.
So I just said, Okay,I'm going to do this full time.
I don't make that much money atit, but I do make a little
bit, and I you know,it's it's it's what I do. It's
what I've always wanted to do.So I never run out of things to
write about. So I can,you know, I can. I can
go for substack where you know,there's a pay option there and that's the

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only place in my shadow band.And you're right. I mean, my
ninth book is coming out next month. That's the JFK book, and then
my tenth book I've already signed acontract for, which is basically the third
volume of a hitting history, theAmerican Memory Hole, and that'll be out
early next year. So yeah,I always I'm always working on something.
So I mean, I like,I'm working on the book after that now,

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And so I write every day.So it's I've always written, you
know, pop Eye, since Iwas I was writing, you know,
when I was a teenager, Iwas writing songs and poetry and kind of
short stories and stuff. That's whatI always wanted to do. So it's
it comes natural to me. Well, you are an inspiration, sir.
I just want to let you knowthat. Thank you by pizza. So,

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uh, before we get into thenew book, you want to give
a preview of the JFK book.What's the working title? Well, it's
it's already out there. Actually,people can get it now. It's it's
a pre sale. It's out there. You can you can go to Amazon
and place and see what it's called. Pipe the Memebo and reb uh Dean
Andrews, Jim Garrison and the Conspiracyto Kill JFK. And it's uh,

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it's based on my friendship, actuallymy brother, you know, my brother,
who of course is people know that. Uh, the medical industry complex
killed him as they killed so manyothers with hospital proto call in January of
twenty twenty two. He was mybrother's best friend, was Dean Andrews,

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the third Amazing land Off. Hejust met this guy. He moved to
this area. I couldn't believe becauseJan Andrews Junior is the beat nick lawyer
from New Orleans that John Gandy playedin Oliver Sudd's JFK so People, one
of the most important witnesses before theWarrent Commission, and the guy that inspired
Jim Garrison's investigation with his testimony.So this, you know, was amazing

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that this guy became a friend ofthe family. And William law is a
very underrated JFK assassination researcher, probablythe pre eminent guy on the autopsy evidence,
and he was amazing. You know, he got to do you got
to do a book about this.So he wanted to do a book with
me, and so we just wehad a long interview with him, and
we did a lot of research onthe New Orleans aspect of the assassination and

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some really good stuff in there,Like I was able to get a hold
of Lee Harvey Oswald's best friend inhigh school, his family, who have
some really interesting things to say becausehe died suspiciously too. So it's got
stuff that other books don't have.But it basically analyzes what I call the
ground level conspiracy, the Clay Shaw, David Fair, the people that Oliver

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Stone focused on in JFK. ButI mean, I don't think they were
the real conspirators, but it's importantto see how they were all manipulated.
And that's where Oswald was manipulated.He was he was told to infiltrate these
people and he thought he was actuallytrying to stop the assassination. So it's
a very you know, interesting story. So hopefully people like it. It's
going to be out there. Ithink it's officially out November fifteenth, although

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you can get it for pre salenow, so we get it out in
time for the sixtieth anniversary awesome,and they can get it at Amazon anywhere
else or just at Amazon, yeah, anywhere anywhere, just just you know.
And of course the title is it'sa direct quote from Dean Andrews Junior
when he's check it out, youknow, a good looking woman or something
pipe the big bow and rid JimBow you know, in the movie.

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So we just thought that was kindof a unique, unique expression. So
hopefully it's an attention grabber for people. That's cool. So you're you've done
nine books and with the including theJFK one, and I urge all the
listeners, all the viewers, anyonethat views this in the archives anywhere,

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get Don's books. Don's an amazinginvestigator and author, and one of my
favorite books is You're the one youput out. I can't remember the work
in title right now because of mybrain. With all the different conspiracies,

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like including Meriwether Lewis, that bookis probably problem of cover ups in American
politics seventeen seventies, nineteen sixty three. Yeah, yes, that book blew
me away. First of all,you it blew me away about I told
you I have all the things I'veever researched conspiracy wise, I had no
idea that Meriwether Lewis was murdered.And of all of the hidden stuff that

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they you know, I know theSmithsonian, right, I in my head,
I know all the things that they'vedone, But I never thought I
wonder if they've hidden anything that youknow that we you know from from prediscovery,
that we don't know about and oh, oh, apparently they did.
And just whoa I mean, didI interviewed you all about that book the
last time you were on it,and you sent me down a rabbit hole.

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I have to tell you I went, and I went and purchased some
of the books that you that youused as some of the research material yourself,
and wow, all I got tosay is wow, So thank you
for sending me down down that thatwhole rabbit hole. Don I appreciate it?
My pleasure. You know we're atthat's the title of your show,
And then that's where I am mostof the time. You know, I've

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been down these rabbit holes since Iwas a teenager in the mid nineteen seventies,
and I discovered the jfk assassination andI joined Mark Lane's group Citizens su
Minivan Quiry. Mark Labe was themost famous critic of the Warren Report.
Is my hero wrote Rush to Judgment. That's why I became a civil libertarian.
I admired his philosophy, and Istill am a civil libertarian. And

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there's there's most of the Mark Laneshave died off. There's not many of
us left, and so it's nota very popular stance to take in today's
world, because standing up for everyone'sfree speech, including that that you really
disagree with, is something most Americansdon't even understand now. No, it's
absolutely incredible how easy people are givingup their freedoms and they call for other

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people's freedom. Well, they callfor other people's freedoms to be like curtailed,
taken away, banned, But theydon't realize they're calling for their own
freedoms too, right, this disconnect. They're not realizing, like what you're
calling for is going to affect youas well. You need to really,

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really really pay attention to what you'rebegging for. But you know, it
was it Jefferson that said freedom isonly a generation away from tyranny something like
that. So you have, likeyou said, the Mark Lanes are dying
off. So you have all thesegreat investigative researchers like Mark Lane, Penn
Jones, Junior May Brussel, allthese groundbreaking researchers that like they they were

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the original JFK researchers. And hereyou have all these people are gone now
and although their stuff is still outthere, so to speak, like I
play May's stuff. I try toair a lot of people stuff. You
know, as an archivist, Ihave just terabytes of stuff going back like
twenty years at least like that.I've been archiving since. But it would

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be so much better to have thesepeople now don to be able to,
like, can you imagine be ableto sit down with Mark Lane and Penn
Jones Junior and May Brussel right nowand have a round table discussion on a
live stream with them. I can'teven imagine. Highbors. Some people who
have compared me in some ways tomaighbor cell and I would love to have
her because I basically people don't understandmy political philosophy. I'm basically far left,

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still as where I've always been,but I've gone over to the far
right because the far left of thefar right kind of meat at some points,
and so on many issues, I'mvery like the anti weight agenda,
the Great Replacement. I'm far right, but you know, Hughey Long's my
political hero. You know I'm youknow, I'm for redistribution of the wealth

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and uh, you know that kindof thing. I'm for all the things
I was is. I'm always outagainst every war. I'm for peace always,
and I'm for similiberties and for everyone'srights. I think that the rights
are being of everyone with people likethe j six defendants have been denied all
due process for two years, butI would feel that same way if they

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were BLM or Antifa people if theywere held in prison and they weren't,
you know, they were denied alldue process and solitary confinement beaten, I
would be just as outraged. Butso that that's you know, I know
most people don't do that. Theydon't like the beliefs, then don't do
whatever you want with them. Andso it's you know, being a populist
and kind of a populous libertarian hybridlike I am is puts me in a

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unique category. And I think people, uh, that's why I really don't
get call that many names. Youknow, like people don't really call me
racists or anti semi or anything likethat because it's hard. It's hard for
them to categorize me. I thinkthey don't want to think. You know,
but I am what I am.Man think if it's inconsistent, so
be and I just look at thingsindependently, Well that's what we need.

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And actually you're you're like a trueI mean, if you want to do
the whole left right thing, you'relike more true to what you would think
someone with left leaning ideology would bethe crazy progressives, the ones that are
pushing all this crazy crap. That'sa whole different faction. Yes, that's

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not the old school. Even twentyyears ago, when I first started doing
like anti war protests, you know, like you know, we'd be out
giving out like information about the IraqWar about nine to eleven and stuff.
And I remember Code Pink used toshow up and all the quote unquote leftists
they used to be out there handingout DVDs with us. But it was

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immediately like as soon as Barack Obamagot in office. See they were slick,
they put the When Obama got ina lot of people bought in and
drank the kool aid, and youknow, he swindled a lot of people
and it got it. And noweverybody's tribal. Now they've got everybody on
such a tribal level that it's youknow, it doesn't matter if their guy.

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You could literally have somebody on theleft get caught blowing up a bus
load of nuns. You could havesomebody on the right get caught doing the
same thing. There could be videoevidence, you could have it an HD
four K don and neither side wouldwant to call out their own member for
turing that. Yeah, we're justabsolutely divided, and that's that was by

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design and I know, I've writtena lot about what I call trumpet Stein
the Trumpet sign project. And againI'm in my own category with that.
I look at him differently than everybodyelse too. But and I think it
was divide, designed to divide us, and we are hopelessly divided right now,
and that's why. And you're seeingit in things like the even the
Republicans trying to elect a Speaker ofthe House because they're divided as well.

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So everybody is divided and one sidedoes not want to give in to the
other, and there is no compromise. Because I said it the you know,
at the time of the Civil War, I wrote a lot about it
in the book. You talked aboutcrimes and cover ups and the war between
the states more accurately. At thattime, we were nowhere near as divided
as we are now, because backthen, at least you had a few

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foundational principles that everyone agreed on.Almost everyone believed in God back then,
certainly publicly, so everyone had ayou know, a religion was grounded and
a belief in God, and theyrecognized ten commandments. You know, with
something we should, you know,try strive to obey. I mean,
people you know failed certainly, youknow, coveting your neighbor's wife and stuff

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like that. I mean it's hard, you know, obviously we're human beings,
but people recognize that there was somethingwe should strive for. Now we
can't even we don't even know,we can't even agree with what life is.
We have fifty seven genders and allthese kinds of things that people are
hopelessly divided on. There's not asingle foundational issue, so we aren't compromised

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all the way. And you're exactlyright, and that's where Trumpenstein came and
Trump we're basically if whatever side losesor it's just fake news, I don't
believe it, and you know,I don't believe the source. So there's
there's no there's nothing that. There'snot one source anywhere that everybody trusts.
And you know, I know whenI'm writing, and you know, I

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know what sources I trust more.I try to use the establishment sources only
because people, you know, willgive you more and they'll just say they
can't argue with you if you dothat, even though I think they're uncredible.
But and most of the time youcan find establishmentsources for this stuff because
they put it out there. Theydon't hide it. It's hiding in plain
sight. But we're hopelessly divided.And we saw, you know, obviously

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we talked about the COVID book somethinglike that. You saw the divide there
where you know, again the dividewas it's the same kind of divide where
half the people at least, ifnot more, bought the greatest sigh up
in the history of the world.Half the people were putting their mass on
or I still see them when Igo sometimes, obeying all these nonsensical mandates

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which aren't laws. They didn't haveto obey them, but they did.
And the other half was skeptical.And I think that half is growing,
probably, but I don't know.But it's again, this is a we're
incredibly divided country. No, weare. We're at an unprecedented time and
unfortunately we don't have John F.Kennedy as our pres We have President poopy

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Pants. And it's it's it's ascary thing to see. It's it's like
two different just this is not thescenario that I, first of all,
I envisioned. I mean, atleast I figured if they were going to
bring an usher into you know,the new world order in World War three,
they were going to do it withsomebody that was charismatic like Obama.

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You know, I didn't think theywere going to do it with Biden,
but I mean, he was reallythere their only shot, I you know,
against Trump. There was really noother decent candidates at the time.
He wasn't even a decent candidate,but he was he. I mean when
I saw him, when I sawthem put him up, I was like,
Oh, here we go, moreof the show, you know,

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And I I kind of in myhead, I was like, maybe maybe
Trump will win. And then Iwas like, no, what do you
don't buy into that? What doyou but you're falling for it, don't
don't you know? And in backand I was fifty to fifty do you
think they're gonna pull something off?Do you think they're gonna do it?
And then you know, you sawwhat happened elections when I like how they
they made election fraud. You can'tsay those words election fraud is a faux

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pat don You cannot say that inpublic now unless you're a Democrat, an
election denier, right, unless you'reunless you're Hillary Clinton or Stacy Abrams.
You know, then it's okay,Then it's okay if you want to contest
an election, Al Gore, perfectlyfine, you want to contest an election
if you are on the on thealternative side of which I mean, there's

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really no two sides. It's auniparty. I mean, the Republicans are
they're they're useless. They they havethey're useless, they've they're they're always been
useless, They're always going to beuseless. They are like neutered, They're
I don't even think they're meant toactually win. I think they're just meant
to, you know, dope peopleinto the whole. I called them to

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Washington. I called them the WashingtonGenerals. And somebody has been hearing me
because, because, because, andfor those who don't know, Washington Generals
were the team, the happless teamof all whites that played the Harlem Globe
Traders and never won, always lost, and it was always rigged, and
the audience of almost white, allwhite people cheer it on and thought it
was great theater. But I startedcalling them the Washington Generals a while back,

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and since that time, people havetold me, uh, while Matt
Gates, I saw tape on thefloor of the House started calling the Republicans
the the Washington Generals, and recentlyapparently Steve Bannon did as well. So
I think that these they have staffmaybe that heard me on Jeff Erentz as
a big shower. So I don'tknow, but I can't believe they both

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came up with that, you know, independent like I did. But you
know, maybe maybe I'm giving myselftoo much credit, but it's anyway,
it's a it's an accurate statement becausethey are right now, the Republicans.
They're supposed to be the opposition.They're obviously not an opposition, but they
are the designated losers, the WashingtonGenerals. Yeah, and they literally that's
a great I love that. Ilove that you and that's awesome. Honestly,

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if they're using it, maybe youare info jamming the culture war.
As we said, I I hopeyou know you're making a difference, because
I mean, if somebody hears something, even if you you come up with
a pithy little comment like that anda nickname, and then somebody like Gates,
here's it now. Now it's beingdropped, you know, on the

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floor of the House, right andit's being recorded. So yeah, I
mean power to you. Don Iknow that your your words and your words
are very wise and you do andyou do jam Info Jam the culture War.
Uh with your books, So Imean with your with your broadcasts either
being on rents or I know youdo two other broadcasts during the course of

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the week too, I Protest anduh, what's the one you do on
Saturdays, America Unplugged I did withBilly Red, Valentine, Tony Arborn.
Yeah, yeah, great show.I was listening to you guys earlier today.
Actually, well I was getting Iwas Hudson around the house this morning.
I was listening to you guys.You guys do a great job.
And you know, it wouldn't surpriseme if you are being picked up and
you know, being heard by Bannonor Gets or others. All you need

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to do is be heard by eitherone of those two because those two conversate
constantly, so only one of themhad to pick it up and then it
gets passed on to the rest.So that's cool, man, that's awesome
that they're copying you. You area trendsetter, truly. Well, you
know, I try. I justthink that the only way I mean,

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like my my substack is getting morepopular, and I'm getting a little bit
of a presence there. Donald Jefferysaid, substack dot common it's called by
protests, just like my weekly livestreaming show. But it's I try to
I try to find humor in allthis because you can't. I think the

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easiest way to attract people is totry to be witty about it and make
fun of it because and it isreally easy to make fun of everything that's
going on. It's easy to spoof, but you have to laugh at it,
say you don't cry because it's tragic. But there's always comedy in the
darkest moments, and that there.I mean, if you look at it,
it really is there. There's alot of dark comedy there. And

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so I think people my substacks,especially people really respond to the humor in
them because I try to be funnyand try to be you know, is
there aren't any comedians anymore. Comedyisn't allowed, and so there aren't any
social satirists anymore. And people haveeven said that sounds like Mark Quain or
something. There aren't people like thator hl Mankin that do that anymore.

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So I'm trying to do that becauseI don't think you can seriously analyze it.
It's it's it's absurd. And youtalk about you know, you mentioned
Alice and down the rabbit Hole.I mean, I love Alice in Wonderland
and great admire of that kind ofnonsense. But uh, that's nonsense,
That's what it is. But whatwhat you know? In what I think
it was in either Alice wonder linethrough the looking Glass one of the things,

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Uh, I think the Red Queenor something said, well, I
sometimes I believe as many as twelveimpossible things before breakfast, and uh,
you know, the average American nowbelieves, you know more than that,
more than more than twelve impossible thingsevery day before breakfast, because you have
to everything you're looking at is impossible. You're asked to believe total inanities,

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total lies. And so I thinkwe are we're at that point. And
if you look at some of thesepoliticized trials that are going on and the
joke of a legal system Alex Jonesis continuous trials, Trump's continuous prosecutions that
are just symbolic and ridiculous. Butthen you go back again to Alice in
Wonderland at the trial and the uh, I think it's the Red Queen again

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that says, you know, asentence first, verdict afterwards, and we're
we're and you know, people laughedat that for over a century. We're
at that stage now. I mean, that's what they're doing basically. I
mean, everybody knows first, everybodyknows what the verdict is going to be,
and these there's no chance of anyof those people getting off, and

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so it's, uh, I thinkall we can do is compare it to
It's more appropriate to compare it tothings like a nonsense like Lewis Carroll's nonsense
in his writings than it is toany kind of legitimate history. I agree,
one hundred percent. And to furtherinto the just, the amazing,

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unjust sentences that the J six guysgot, you know, the DOJ is
appealing their sentencing because they don't feelthat they got hard enough sentences. They
want them to actually get more timethan they got. Yeah, that's I
mean, that's I I've had acouple of some of those people on my

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shows that I could get had VictoriaWhite on my show. She hasn't been
prosecuted yet and she's not in prison, but she could face up to thirty
years in prison. She was nevereven in the capitol. She was beaten
to a pulp by police in atunnel, and you know you have I
think it was Sarah mccabee's husband,who is I think serving a seven year

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sentence, who never again, neverwent in the capitol, but was aiding
police. He even't had my videotapepolice congratulating and put their armorund Hey,
thanks for helping us seven years.Owen Schroyer, who was I think he's
serving thirty days or something. Andagain he has I don't know what more
evidence you can need other than videoof himself saying don't go in, it's

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a setup and not going in somehowhe said again there's this is the system
we have when you don't have anopposition party. The Republicans are not an
opposition party. Otherwise they'd be inlockstep with this. They'd be standing outside
the jail, they would hold realhearings, and they'd be in union.
They wouldn't have people like Liz Cheneyin there, Lindsay Graham, people like

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that. You would it would allbe like Matt Gates are better and they
would be outraged by this, andthey would be making a huge issue out
of it. And if you had, if you Fox News was really an
alternative network, then you would havehad more people than Chucker. Carlton did
a pretty good job of it whenhe was on. You would have more
focus on that. You don't haveany focus on it. They's outrageous what

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they're doing to the JA six defendantsand what they've already done to them,
because again they've they were talking aboutthey've denied all due process for two years
and this is is or going on, I guess almost three years, and
for them to still be sitting thereand then once the sentences come out,
when you see these outraged what isit? The Joe Biggs got seventeen years

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And as I as I said,you know, I don't think I'll write
this book because nobody would read it, but I do kind of compile.
I do little research and takes noteson these investigation discovery shows because I'm just
interested in how bad the legal systemis. And so I look at some
of these shows on how what jurisdid and I've come to the collision juries

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you know are wrong ninety nine pointnine percent of the time. Most of
the time they typically convict people thatwhere there's tons of reasonable doubt and send
them away for life. But onthe rare occasion they'll let somebody off with
there's a lot of strong evidence againstthem, so they always do the wrong
thing. You know. I's sayingone is jury these idiots, and they
are idiots because they to be ona jury, you have to show that

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you have no knowledge. That's whatyou're on there for. And so but
I was looking at this show acouple and there was one guy where the
guy killed his No, there's onewhere this guy was a security guard at
a school and he captured a fourteenyear old girl I think, or twelve
year old girl or something. Idon't know. He kidnapped her and kept

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her in his home for I thinkten years as a sex slave, and
they had it was documented. Thisidiot took notes and made her write notes
of everything they did sexually, soyou couldn't have better evidence. He was
given fifteen years and he's already backin the same house. So you get
Joe Biggs seventeen years. This guyfor keeping a sex slave for ten years

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kids fifteen years. There's another onewhere a guy killed his son in front
of witnesses coldblood killed him and Ithink he served less than ten years.
So that's what I'm saying, Howdoes anybody have respect for this? And
most people don't know about those kindsof cases, so they don't even realize
how outrageous these sentences of the JAsix defendants are because you have violent criminals

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that are serving and have served farless sentences than this, and there's no
there's nobody complaining about it at all. Nobody's talking about the difference. How
do you respect a system like thatwhere it places a greater importance on somebody.
Uh, it was political beliefs,because that's what these people are being
prosecuted for, the fact that theyhad the nerve to support their own candidate

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in their eyes, and to protestthe results of an election that's worse than
murder. And that's I don't knowhow anybody can support that kind of system,
but lots of people are by theirsilence. And six months before,
that same system allowed cities to beliterally burned to the ground. Yeah,
absolutely, yeah, and nobody gotin trouble. Nope, nobody got in

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trouble. Nobody got held accountable forthe people that died and nobody got held.
There were police officers that were killedin I know that they loved to
say that they were police officers killedon January sixth. There weren't, But
there were police officers killed in allthese riots all throughout the country. Nobody
nobody gotten really, I didn't seeanybody get in any real level of trouble

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for anything. They did. Youhad, you had, you had the
the guy from Crisis Actor Central,I mean one hundred percent chance he was
a crisis actor, the af FRIwarlord that was that with the UZI that
took over two or three blocks inSeattle for or for a month or whatever
it was. Again, nobody didanything. Ye people died, people died,
people were he was you're talking aboutinterfering with the public, you know,

(30:15):
right to go to businesses or workor whatever. Nobody the authority stood
down. That guy was I don'teven know what his name is. He's
probably back and you know he's backto crisis acting, I guess, but
nothing happened to him. I mean, how can anybody look at that and
say, where's your where's your priorities, where's your sense of balance? You
can't be so hard ass on somethinglike the January sixth stuff, when you're

(30:38):
completely leaning on that if it's theother end of the spectrum and buildings are
burning and there's massive looting going onand these people aren't even being prosecuted,
and that you have people that arestanding though like somebody like Owen Shroyer is
documented, it's not going even goinginto building is if that's a crime to
go in the Capitol, and Ireject that too. This is a building

(31:00):
our taxpayer money was Since when isit a crime to go into a public
building Washington, DC, especially whenyou're waved inside as the video evidence showed
the cops that waved them inside.But you know, that's obviously a long
story. But there's there's almost nobodyoutside of the Tucker Carlson's of the world
and something, you know, someof us in the alternative media, Nobody
in the mainstream is pointing out howoutrageous this is. I mean, the

(31:22):
fact that the Republicans barely put upa whimper when they had those idiotic,
uh you know, January sixth Commissionhearings that didn't even allow a token Republican
on there. I mean, justit's just it's criminal, that's why I
think. I think people at thispoint, you know, you're not going
to be able to vote yourself outof this. The political answers aren't there.
I don't know what the answers areat this point, but it's certainly

(31:44):
not in politics. No, it'snot. And the Republicans, you know,
they were I mean, it's aunit party, but some of them
that might have been worried about optics, were worried about political necklacing. You
know, they were worried of gettingthat that flaming tire put put around their

(32:06):
neck and they didn't want to sticktheir neck out. They're not going to
stick their neck out for that.They don't want to risk their careers or
their good name or their ego.So they're they're not really about freedom.
They don't care. And honestly,with the you know, ending the whole
January sixth, Convocus, I wantto get into your book, Masking of
Truth. But the that whole thingwas a meme. They needed a physical

(32:30):
meme that they could refer to,like you know how they you know,
remember how after nine to eleven happened. Everything was nine eleven, nine eleven,
nine eleven, nine to eleven terror, terror, nine eleven, nine
to eleven terror or terror, terror, terror. You know, if you
if you brought up a question,well why are you why are you spying
on people's cell phones? Because nineto eleven, I mean it was literally

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you could just say that and endof end of argument done. No,
you know, people would nobody wantedto challenge that because of that political necklacing.
They didn't want to get that flamingtire put around their neck. And
here you have the same thing.It was people arguing other over whether or
not the election could have been fraudulentor not, and it putting all that

(33:13):
to the side. The point isthey don't even want any of that conversation.
They need a meme that they couldreference and go back to physically and
say, look, look look atthis. You see now this really happened.
See back before they could say,oh, well these crazy these conspiracy
theorists and these libertarians or whatever,they're going to overthrow the government, and

(33:34):
we could say, no, no, one's overthrowing the government. People are
just asking valid questions. Well,now, if you ask a question or
you say something the wrong way down, if you don't, if you don't,
if you don't, you know,play patriot in the right way.
You're going to get that that politicalnecklacing, you're going to get that flaming
tire thrown around you, and you'regonna be called a jan sixer or insurrectionists.

(33:58):
And they have the physical meme torefer back to. So that's why
I think they set that whole thingup, because they needed something, you
know, and people are always like, yeah, would they actually do something
they go to that level? Yesthey will, sure. I mean they'll
kill over three thousand people in theirown country and knock down multiple buildings in

(34:20):
Manhattan. Do you really think they'renot going to pull off something like January
sixth? January sixth was a walkin the park compared to nine to eleven.
Absolutely, yeah, And you're rightthere and they when they and again
the president has been set and againit all it's really started back in I
think it was twenty seventeen eighteen whenAlex Jones was deplatformed, And symbolically,

(34:47):
regardless what you think about Alex Jones, he's considered the most he's the most
well known conspiracy name in our world. They all media and when they deep
platform and I remember at the time, so many people even in our world,
cheered, He's just sent Floyd.And you see I never talked about
Isy and all the stuff you hear. And I said at the Times said

(35:07):
look, I don't care what heis. Symbolically, this is this is,
this is starting the domino effect.They because they they they took down
the biggest name and the deep platform, and they set a precedent sure enough.
I mean, all all the biggestshows I used to go SGT Report
almost a million subscribers back then onYouTube, and lots of other ones,

(35:29):
Sarah westall people that had big basesthat built up hundreds of thousands of subscribers
and had people like me on asregular guests, and they were the biggest
platforms I could get outside of youknow, a couple of times a year,
coast to coast. And so oncethose those people all were deplatform almost
everyone is gone now. And againpeople didn't, they didn't protest. There

(35:51):
was a murmur except for people likeme doing what I saying. What I
could say, I said, thisis you know, you you can't ban
people because of this. And thenonce you had the election of twenty twenty,
then they started using I mean thatthey used that again you're an election
denier COVID. Well you're a COVIDdenier everything with the denier stuff, and

(36:12):
and you to make it like amental illness. And so now Sandy hook
and certainly again that that was howmany How did that cripple our alternative world
because of Alex Jones? Again symbolically, Alex Jones was tried ober and over
again and claimed he was harassing theparents for questioning a narrative, questioning an
incident that was the whiley So youcan't. I mean, he wasn't and

(36:34):
he was never really extreme on thatat all. But even if he had
been, this is a widely reportedevent. You have the right to do.
It's covered under freedom of speech.But did you hear anybody there?
It wasn't a somebody like me,There wasn't. No, there's not a
single civil libertarian name. When I'mtalking to people like Tucker Carlson that were
some sympathetic you saw, well noneof them defended on that and said,

(36:57):
hey, you know, you shouldbe able to speculate about this. There
a lot of questions that need tobe asked about it, and then it's
legitimate and you should be able toask them nobody did, so they beat
that over their head. They kindof did it a little bit on Pizza
eight as well, where you can'treally talk about that. You can't talk
about the election. So they're makingissues that you can't talk about and say,

(37:17):
well, this is beyond the pale. You know, you have freedom
of speech, but you know it'sa really restricted freedom of speech. Maybe
you can, you know, argueover who's better the beatles of the rolling
Claes or something. That's their ideaof freedom of speech. But you know,
for people that want to question thesebigger issues, and certainly something like
COVID. Even today, I'm stillon YouTube amazingly, but I don't have

(37:39):
that big audience there either. Butwhen I do my live streaming show and
it gets the most reception on YouTube, if I have a show about COVID,
we have to take it down immediatelybecause if it says up on my
account, we suspend it automatically.Every time. Now they'll let me talk
about everything else and they won't sayanything, but they won't. No,

(38:01):
I haven't tried, Sandy Hook.Really they they but they won't let me
talk about the elect about COVID.So but that's where we are now and
you know we we we set theball rolling. People cheered Alex on being
prosent and again, regardestly what youthink about Trump. I'm no Trump fan,
but again, the fact he's beingprosecuted NonStop for the most ridiculous things

(38:22):
imaginable. He's being prosecuted for inthe same state where Stacy Abrams has been
made it a point to say Iwas wrong. Yeah, this is o
oh can you hear me? Yeah? Interesting at Don's talking making a really
valid point and his internet goes outfor a second. So I'll wait till

(38:45):
he comes back, and oh,I'm not bad. I'll pop him back
on as soon as he comes backin. He's got a point that what
he was saying about Alex Jones,I had kind of the same take,
and I don't let me see ifhe's back. No, not yet.

(39:06):
I had kind of the same takeon the whole Alex Jones situation. I
have never made my feelings for Jonesand some of the things that he's done
and some of his behavior, I'venever been okay with it. I've made
my feelings known on it over theyears about some of his like bombastic speculation

(39:28):
on things or the way he's donethings. But he didn't do anything wrong
with the way he covered Sandy Hook. And he asked questions, were there
people that went and you know,yeah, there were people that went and
harassed the parents and stuff, andI don't condone that. But he asked

(39:49):
questions. But they threw the bookat him and went after him because he
was the biggest name. They neededto set a precedent. Once they set
a precedent like that, then theycan go after whoever they want. They
take out the biggest, loudest individual, then it's easy to take out somebody
else. Let me see if Daunt'sback. No, not yet. Uh,
but he does have his internet connectionbackup, so that's good. As

(40:10):
soon as I see him pop backin, I'll uh, I'll pop him
back in here. So but hispoint about Alex Jones is correct because if
Alex is like the canary in thecoal mine. So if if you could
take out Alex, and if youcould easily take out, you could take
out a big a down your back. I was telling people, if you

(40:31):
can take out Alex, you couldtake out anybody. You know, they
if they could take out somebody asbig and powerful as Jones is because he's
got a lot of money behind InfoWars, then they can easily go after
you or me or anybody. Yeah. And we look what they're doing to
the guy. I mean a billiondollars they're making it. And they said

(40:52):
that bankruptcy won't let him get outof it. His Info Wars is only
worth about like fourteen or fifteen milliondollars overall as a company. How are
you gonna how are you going toget a billion dollars out of this?
Blood from a stone? Yeah,And it's to destroy Info Wars is what
it is. Yeah. And againit regardless of what you think of Info

(41:13):
Wars. And you know, Ihave a little bit of window, like
I'm going to be on Harrison's Smithshow next week, and so I mean
I have I had been on therebefore. And so I again, they
let people, at least they letme say what I want. And regardless
of what you think about them,Again, it sets a terrible or what

(41:34):
you think of Alex Jones what,It doesn't matter if Alex Jones is a
complete this info agent, it's whathe represents. The same thing with Trump.
I think Trump's an accurate I don'tthink he's sincere, but it's what
he represents. And so if youestablished it, Donald Trump or Alex Jones
can be If Alex Jones can beprosecuted for questioning event and they claim that
he's harassing the families by doing it, I mean, what are jfk assassination

(41:57):
guys like me doing. I meanthey could claim that were harassing the Kennedy
family by bringing this up the samekind nine to eleven. I mean,
all those nine to eleven victims,they could all say, you know you're
you're trudging up the pain. Youknow you're you're what are you doing?
And seth Riches family that's threatened tosue Fox News when Sean Handity of all
people did a half ass one showwhere he hit did a half asked investigation

(42:21):
of it, and they threatened tossuehim. He almost lost his job.
So why I mean, if youcan't, if you're gonna, And that's
why it's such a terrible president thatAlex Jones was found guilty there that you
if you question no matter, evenif you ask questions that he never asked,
and he really didn't. He wasnot extreme on it at all.
But even if he had, thenIt limits free speech because it makes it

(42:45):
impossible. If there is there issomething fishy going on out there, you
can't question it. All they haveto do is say, well, you
know you're harassing the families. Youknow you can't do that. That's and
in the case of Trump, wellyou can't if you're a particular a political
persuasion, if you're from the MAGAwrite or something, or America First,

(43:06):
if you're if you're espousing some kindof populous principles, you can't contest the
results of election. It's threatens democracy, and questioning the integrity of election threatens
democracy. Think about how stupid thatis. And just look at Trump's rape
case. This woman who literally can'tremember the year it took place, the

(43:29):
year, I mean you want atleast be able to remember the year,
and I mean the most ridiculous andthen is provably joked about it years later
on social media and she brings rapecharges against this guy. Now, what
does that say about all of us? What can other women do and against
twenty years? However, thirty year, how many years ago it was.

(43:51):
I don't know about you, butI'd hate to have some woman, you
know, thirty forty years earlier comeup and say that you know that,
you know, I rate some moneyand with that kind of I don't remember
the year exactly or you know what. And he was convicted. He was
found guilty. So this it setsa terrible present. And even something like

(44:12):
Trump, he's he's I think he'salready been talk good. If not,
he's going to be, it's inevitable. He's not. He's not going to
win any of these things. Trumpnever wins anything again. He's like the
Republicans. He's a designated loser,which makes laughable. You know you're gonna
be We're gonna win so much,you're gonna get tired of all the winning.
I haven't seen any winning. Butuh, he you know, he's

(44:32):
he's being tried. How do youprosecute someboddy for exaggerating their wealth? I
mean, that's what they're prosecuted me. I mean, I mean, and
the judge shadow he committed fraud becausehe overvalued mar a lago at like I
don't know, like three or fourhundred million to get a loan, and

(44:53):
the judge said, oh, it'sonly worth twenty million, and it's like,
well, first of all, judgesdon't set property value, right,
Okay, because if that's the case, then the entire system in the entire
United States just got up ended becausethis judge is like, now I'm just
gonna say that your property is andit's only worth twenty million dollars, and

(45:15):
he was going off of the taxsessed value of it, which anyone that
owns the property knows that the taxassessed value, what what they charge you
in property taxes, is not whatthe properties actually work. It's like seventy
eight percent. Yeah right, Imean, you're you're not gonna you're not
gonna go sell it. You know, you get you pay. Let's say

(45:36):
you pay six thousand dollars a yearin property taxes on your home, but
your home's worth two hundred thousand dollars. Done, and you go to you
decide to sell it. Are yougoing to just tell your your agent,
Hey, just list it for whateverthe tax value is. I don't I
don't really care what the actual valueof the property is. Just and people,
people, This whole thing is predicatedupon the fact that Trump may eat

(46:00):
up supposedly his own property values.There's a there's a there's a guy or
a woman, depending on who itis. But there's a position I should
say that's called uh in in inmost real estate, well in all real
estate transactions, anybody's gonna want toget an appraisal. But there's a position
called the appraiser. The appraiser comesin as a third party for the bank.

(46:23):
The appraiser doesn't come in and say, well, i'm gonna you know,
I'm gonna I'm gonna give you know, Donald Trump says it's worth two
hundred you know million. Oh,of course it's worth two hundred million because
Donald said it. No, it'sthe appraiser's job is specifically to come in
for the bank and say, oh, well, the let's say Don wants
two hundred thousand dollars for his house. The buyer of your house is gonna,

(46:45):
you know, the bank. They'regoing through the bank. The bank's
going to want to make sure theirinvestment is actually worth two hundred million,
so they're going to have an appraisercome in. People forget that this this
person called the appraiser, This thisposition don exists. It's like just because
a judge said, oh, wellit's only worth twenty million, poof there
you go. Now you put yourproperty values only twenty minute. That's not

(47:07):
how that's not how it works.No, if they can do it to
Trump, they can do it toyou or me. They can. And
again, I know, I've beena license realtor since nineteen eighty five,
so I know a little bit ofsomething about this, and when when this
has like wait a minute, firstof all, and the real estate industry,
like every other part of America,is completely corrupt because the real estate
and industry should have should have objectedto this, because it's not up to

(47:30):
a judge to set that. You'reright, exactly right. The market determines
what the value is. I mean, it's worth whatever, Mandy, anybody's
willing to pay. Man, Imean how many how many properties I've seen
in my career as a realtor,there are tons of properties that were over
priced. It happens. And uh, you know, because it's you,
you can sometimes diluted homeowners. Youshow them comparables. But no, no,

(47:52):
my house is worth more it Scott, you know, I did more
work on it. It's uh,you know, it has this and they
don't have that. But so thisis very troubling that again there and even
if you can't everybody bloviates. Youknow there we have bullshitters everywhere that that
exaggerate how much wealth, how muchmoney they make. Trump obviously, if

(48:13):
his personality is legitimate anyway, heobviously is that kind of guy. So
so he you know, he exaggerateshis wealth. Well, if he did
that to get a loan, thatwhoever gave him the loan shouldn't just take
his word for it. He hadto have some kind of you know,
some kind of They have rotary dutyto actually like make sure that the person

(48:37):
is worth whatever they say they're worth, or they have that kind of wealth
they have. It's their job todo that. So if somebody at the
bank didn't do it, it's notlike Trump. It's like Trump went in
and was like, he's a goodjob. That's not a prosecutable crime.
But again this this at once andagain nobody in the legal world there are

(48:58):
no civil libitarian The real estate industryshould be up in arms about that,
but there's not. And if youhad civil libertarians, if the ACLU is
doing its job, which it isn't. You know, I was a card
carrying member of the ACLU back inyou know, one of my very young
days. Because they were concerned withcivil liberties then, and so was I.

(49:19):
I still am. They're not.And a few years ago they said,
you know, I'm not so muchconcerned about civil liberties anymore. Now
it's you know, racism and climatechange, you know, the typical nonsense
to woke left is. But ifthey were still a they would if they
would be on Trump's side, andthey would be on Alex Jones's side.
But they they're so politicized now theycan't so gone to the days in the
nineteen seventies when you had a Jewishlawyer, Goldberger or whatever his name was

(49:44):
for the ACLU that defended genuine Nazis, people who said they were Nazis,
not like us who are called Nazis. Sometimes they said were Nazis, and
they were wearing Nazi uniforms at Hilohit Learning and everything, and they wanted
to march in Skokie, Illinois,and they purposely picked that because it was
a largely Jewish community, so theywanted to provoke them. So okay,

(50:06):
So that's it's hard, especially fora Jewish lawyer to but that's the a
c O U. And they recognizethat they have the right. We have
to stand up for everybody's right.They defended the k k K and all
that as well. So because ofthem, they had their little margin.
You know, people yelled at themand stuff and they nothing, you know,
they just provoked too stupid. Butthat's how much we changed. Back

(50:28):
then, you had a group likethat asou that was willing to defend people
they obviously didn't agree with. Andnow you flash forward to where you have
things like a former president of theUnited States being prosecuted for the most ridiculous
things imaginable, and nobody's you know, nobody's saying, well, you know,
this is this is not right,This is not a prosecutable this is
not a prosecutable case. This womandoesn't even remember the year that this is.

(50:53):
This is not being brought to trial. It's not showed me. The
crime of somebody who is exaggerating ormay have inflated the value of his property
not a prosecutable crime. And ofcourse, the the you know, all
you have to do if I'm defendingDonald Trump, and he always has the

(51:13):
worst lawyers in the world, butif he ever had a good lawyer,
first thing I would do in theGeorgia case, I would I would just
show video repeatedly all the video ofStacy Abrams saying that she was robbed,
and I say, I rush mycase. When when is Stacy abram is
going to be prosecuted? But hislawyers won't do that because they never do

(51:34):
that, and so it's just it'svery disturbing, and it's you know,
it's it's terrifying to me because Iknow if I ever got a big enough
platform that they could come after me. And it's very scary because if they
can prosecute I mean, I sayall kinds of thing. I'm very careful
about when I say, and Itry to be reasonable and I don't say

(51:55):
I know definitively something but I don'tknow it, but I asked, and
uh, we ought to be ableto do that. And what's happening in
this country and with combine Alex Jonesand Donald Trump, they're absurd politicized prosecutions
and the j six people who arebeing tried as if they were, you

(52:17):
know, the worst criminals imaginable,as if they you know, walked into
the capital with dynamite strapped to themand threaten to blow everything up. And
this people should, but they can'tlook past the fact that they hate Donald
Trump, which is part of theTrumpets Stegn program and project, and they
hate what these jcs because they supportDonald Trump. They hate them, so

(52:40):
they don't care what happened. I'vehad discussions with them. I said,
there are a bunch of people outthere that I've talked to that would love
to see them hung and hang.They don't care if they hang. And
I said, I said, youknow, I don't. I can't talk
to you because you're you're hatred.You you've you've had such irrational hatred for
this guy Trump that you're willing tocompletely overlook any kind of due process and

(53:05):
just not get these people from it. But that's where we are now,
and it's and those people are incharge. That mindset is in charge in
the Democratic Party and the Republicans aresupposed to be the opposition party, and
you see the result. You havea handful of them that maybe seem to
kind of walk the walk, butthe rest of them are horrible people and
they just want to you know,they're Mitch McConnell types and they just want

(53:28):
to play the game, and theycan't in any reform done at all.
Nothing's going to change as long aswe don't have any kind of opposition in
politics or anywhere in this country,into corporate or America anywhere. That you
know, leads into the the COVIDthing, where you know, you had
nobody, nobody in the corporate world, nobody in government, Nobody argued against
the lockdown. Nobody argued against anyof this nonsense. Nobody said, hey,

(53:52):
this is ridiculous, it makes nosense. Vaccine men, it's all
that they all rolled over. Theyall supported it. Yep, everybody just
went because you know, fear.Everybody bought into the They drank the kool
aid, and fear is a greatmotivator, don and they they certainly scared
the crap out of everybody, althoughI do really, I mean, I

(54:14):
think people obviously in positions of powerpower, there were certain people in positions
of power that knew what the realdeal was, and you know, it
came out. Certain people had likestocks and some of these companies and then
they you know, there's a lotof shadiness. So let's actually that's a
perfect segue because I want to transitioninto your new book. So your new

(54:36):
book, Masking the Truth. Beforewe dive into it, where can the
listeners and anybody viewing the stream orarchive. Where can they buy it?
Amazon? Same place. Yeah,you could buy anywhere. You could buy
it through the publisher, and againI had to it's just slightly above self
publishing as no none of my regularpublishers would take it, obviously because of

(54:58):
the subject matter Two guns of ourBut if you go to my substack or
my Twitter at don Jefferies, I'veleft the link there at the Lulu link,
it's the Midnight Writer News link.I don't have the exact link in
front of me. That's if youbuy it there, I get a little
bit more money per book, butthat's that's not as important. Amazon is

(55:19):
fine because the numbers help there,the rankings help. Barnes and Noble,
anywhere anywhere, you know, getthe best deal you can. But what
I do ask people, and they'rethey're shad evanning this book something unbelievable,
would not believe it. Uh,They're basically not allowing any Amazon reviews anymore.
It's stopped at twenty. I've hadpeople that have told me that,

(55:39):
you know, they tried to leavea review, they tried to rate it,
and it just never gets posted.And so they're they're just stopping it
because they don't want the numbers.So I would ask people to please try
to rate it, try to reviewit there and Goodreads and Barnes and Noble.
If you can't get it on Amazon, try to get it on good
Reads and Barnes and Noble, becausenumbers are important to the public. Most

(56:02):
people are followers, and they willthey will look at a book and if
they see it has twenty reviews orratings, like I'm asking the truth as
right now, they're not going topay as much attention to it, but
if it gets up into the hundreds, they may stop and look. So
I asked that people try to dothat. I also asked that because they're
blocking in a number of ways,they're really screwing with the libraries. All

(56:27):
my books, including The Unreals,which was, you know, my first
book published a little print on demandplace out in California that was in one
hundred libraries or hundreds of libraries aroundthe world. All my books are in
hundreds of libraries around there have been, if they're not now, and this
one is just it's in a fewlibraries, but it's it's due to people,
my supporters you know, you know, besieging them with request because they

(56:52):
are they don't want to add it, and they've unlike all my other books,
they've broken pro to call where they'llrespond to my you know, people
tell me, they send me,you know, the messages where they'll they'll
tell them, we're not a ornerin this book, and they don't.
Libraries don't do that generally, butthey're doing it with this book. So

(57:13):
try to break the algorithm. They'resuggested to your your local library system and
your universe if you went to collegeor university library system, because this book
will be perfect for college students.But there it's it's not an easy task
because they put it. I meanthey're they're doing things like they're making it.
Like for instance, in Google Books, if you go to Google Books

(57:34):
and search for it, it won'tcome up in a search, even though
it's there. You have to goin the back door. Just like in
the Library World catalog. I can'treally even tell how many libraries it's in
because it's so hard to find it. You can't even find the copy that
was sent to the Library of Congress. They're hiding it as much as they
can. You go to Apple books. For some reason, Apple Books hasn't

(57:54):
listed for nine hundred and ninety ninedollars. Obviously we didn't do that,
so it's they are hope somebody buysa copy for that much. Well yeah,
I said, if anybody's some eccentricbillionaire did that, yeah, I'd
get a nice commission. But theythat's the kind of stuff they're doing,
and they they're just the most amazingthing is if you, if you do

(58:17):
any search for it in all mybooks, especially, you're talking about this
is a obviously look at the title. You can't get too much more controversial
than this. Uh, it's nobodyis talking about it, or if they
are, they're blocking it from thesearch engines, so it's not a Discussions
aren't appearing on other blogs. Uh, articles haven't appeared, and uh there's

(58:40):
no I've not received any negative criticismanywhere for it. And that's unbelievable because
all my books have you have gottensome of that. So if you if
you look for that, you can'tfind it. That's unnatural. They're they're
they're deciding to ignore it completely.And so it is what it is.

(59:00):
But I mean, it's got Sherryten Penny, who's a big name in
the alternative world that was brave enoughto write the forward, and she's she's
been you know, her medical licensewas suspended and I told her, I
said, well, it probably didn'thelp you to be writing the four to
my book. I'm sure that didn'thelp you. But she was courage to
us to do it. But alot of people in the al media haven't,

(59:22):
the big names refuse to pay attentionto I'm hoping because I'm going to
be on Info Worse next week withHarrison Smith. I hope that opens the
door maybe Alex Jones, because thosethose are the platforms that should be talking
about it, because they claim todoubt the story. They claimed to be
to doubt the COVID narrative. Sohere's the chance to prove. Because no

(59:43):
other book goes as far as Ihave in this book. I start at
point A. And you know,my friend Naomi Wolf and her book The
Bodies of Others, a fine book, Robert F. Kennedy, Juner's book
about Palci's fine book, Peter mccollough'sbook, Fine Book, Alex Barnson's books.
They're all good books, but allof them start with the premise that
there was a virus. There wasthis deadly virus and the response to it,

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especially the vaccine. That's why theyanalyze, and we're an agreement on
that. I start from point A. I say, well, what was
this, you know what, let'sstat let's say what was COVID nineteen.
And I show that COVID nineteen thegut. They'll tell you the COVID nineteen
as a strain has never been isolated. In other words, it's never been

(01:00:27):
proven to exist. They can't produceit as an isolate in other words,
that this was in a court oflaw. They couldn't produce the evidence.
And I talk about I talk aboutthe empty hospitals. I talk about the
dancing nurses. No one else doesbecause it's a part of the story,
and it shows that you know,this is a sy up, This was
not a lab leak from China,because the bioweapon is not COVID nineteen.

(01:00:51):
The bioweapon is the vaccine. Andmore and more people are realizing that,
I think. But so that's whatmakes my my book different. I talk
about all the numbers that were fudgsto begin with, the lies and have
dis continued all the way through.And you know, there's there's so many
elements to this that I call itthe greatest sigh up in the history of

(01:01:12):
the world, and I don't thinkthere's any better name for it. I
have it up on the screen toofor the people that are watching the stream
on video, and that's the actualcover of the book that you can see
right there that way. I wantedto put it up there. That way
people can see what the book lookslike, so they have a visual so
they know what to look for.And again, buy it on Amazon or

(01:01:37):
don give out. Where can theysee that link again one more time?
It's on your substack and on yourTwitter. Yeah, yeah, Donald Jeffrey
said, substack dot com and ifyou please subscribe to me there. It's
the only place on that shadow Man. It's the only place I can get
promotional news out in spots. Iwrite regularly there and you might be entertained

(01:01:58):
by bye my or I've told theirfunny and informative, But Donald Jeffries at
substack dot com, I protest andif you go back, you know,
you just look at the articles andyou go back, I don't know,
a couple of months or whatever itwas, you'll see, like my I
think it's called Masking the Truth aboutCOVID nineteen or something. But you'll see
how I'm promoting the book there andI have I give the link in that,

(01:02:22):
and I also give it on myTwitter, which is at don Jefferies.
They're shadow a manning me there andthey take followers. I mean people
tell me. One guy told meI followed you, like eight different times.
They keep unfollowing people. They won'tlet me grow there, but still
some people get through. So again, if you can overwhelm the algorithm,
certainly welcome more followers there. Themore the better, but they're if you

(01:02:44):
go back again, back to afew months, you can. If you
scroll back into my tweets, you'llsee I gave the uh the link out
to it there, but that it'snot that that's great. I'll make a
little bit more money on it.But Amazon is fine, margin Dumble anywhere
is fine. Just you know,it's just buying the book and getting it
out there. And libraries are veryimportant because if you can get it on

(01:03:06):
shelves people, that's where you getthe normies. Because the army is stroll
into the library and for the firstmonth or so or maybe two months,
the book is considered a new book, so it's on at the front of
the library and the new book section. Typically the the cover is phasing out
as it is here and before itgets lost in the shuffle and gets put

(01:03:27):
back on the shelves where it's unlikelyanybody's going to find it nless they're specifically
looking for it. That's where youwant to get because it gets lots of
readers from the library because people walkaround and they're going to see that cover
and people are going to want tocheck it out, and so that's why
it's important to get it in thelibrary. So please try to try to
break the algorithm there and you canalways contact me. I love to hear

(01:03:50):
the stories of you know, whatthey tell you if they tell you they
can't do it or whatever, andwhat their excuse is are, and you
know, something like Coast to Coastfor instance, I mentioned I've probably been
on a dozen times. I've beenon there for all my books and other
things as well. Always welcome there, but not for this book. George
Norri I was told George Norri hada meeting with all the guest hosts and

(01:04:14):
said they're not talking to my COVIDanymore when one of them wanted to have
me on about this book. Sothat's that's how, you know. And
again, if you look at mybooks, as you mentioned, crimes and
cover ups, all my books,hidden history, they're all controversial and this
is obviously just a little bit toocontroversial about that particular subject. And it's
not you know, that's just becausethat's the biggest, biggest platform I can

(01:04:36):
get. Are almost the biggest platformany writer can get eight to ten million
listeners. So that really hurts becausethat's how all my books got to be
best sellers, is being on coastto coast because it shoots up in the
rankings after people listen to it.I'm not going to get that opportunity of
this book. Yeah, and that'sa shame. See that. That part

(01:04:59):
of that is the way how theWHO and the CDC and then because it
flowed who CDC and then you know, Facebook, YouTube, whatever, Twitter
at the time, and any anybodythat provided the alternative media a platform.

(01:05:21):
If you didn't toe the line,you were immediately you know, your first
it was videos were removed, thenentire accounts were banned left and right.
I wasn't a good friend of minekeV Baker Rip. keV had the keV
Baker Show and I keV had meon. He actually brought me on in

(01:05:44):
the end of twenty nineteen and westarted doing like streams about what was coming.
And I was like going on thereand I was warning about stuff,
and I was like, look,I'm getting I'm getting warnings from people inside
the you know, like insiders thatI know over the years that have reached
out to me for or retired police, retired military. And they were telling

(01:06:05):
me it lockdown's coming. And Iwent on and I said, I don't
know what COVID is, but Iknow what the answered that the government is
going to bring about is they're gonnatry to implement lockdowns. You should go
get at least thirty days supply worthof food. And I was honest with
people, and I got called thefear monger. You know. Other people

(01:06:27):
that were doing this with me,they got called a fear monger. You
know, whether it was on Facebookor Twitter, there was people, Oh,
you're fear mongering, and then youknow, everything was I remember it
because I was I went to thestore. I had to go to the
store to pick up two days ina row and the first day, everything
was normal, you know, everythingwas fine, and I already knew I've
been stockpiling stuff for a couple ofmonths. And the next day is when

(01:06:50):
they canceled, when the NBA literallyofficially got like canceled and put on hold.
And that was the thing don thatmade this real to America was as
soon as they took away their sports, they took away their bread and service.
It was like, oh my god, what's going on. And then

(01:07:12):
within weeks, I remember, youknow, I live out in the woods.
Now I've got starlink. But whenthat first happened and all this went
down, we only had a DSLline because they don't they don't they've never
run cable internet. If you goout and you live out in the country,
everybody wants to live off grid orgo live, you know, out
of the big cities. Well there'sno high speed internet until Elon came out

(01:07:34):
with starlink. So we had aDSL connection. So I couldn't even like
upload videos or anything because it wouldtake too long. But I could go
at least do audio with keV,and they made him they d mind of
keV was disabled. So for peoplethat don't know keV had a real problem

(01:07:56):
with his lungs and he actually wason the waiting list for a lung transplant,
and long story short, he didhe couldn't do his physical day job
anymore. So streaming was his incomeand they took his income away from him
for a month because he had meon and we were having these streams talking
about this, and they told himthe only way they'd give him his monetization

(01:08:17):
is back if he deleted all thesevideos. So they made him and he
actually like he hit me up onSkype and he was like, you know,
Popeye, I'm really sorry I haveto do this. And I was
like, do what you gotta do, man, I don't care, Like
I don't want you to starve becauseof me, Like that's not what I
want. But that's where it started, and it's gotten to the point now

(01:08:38):
where I'm having videos removed from likeyou know, you know, I have
multiple YouTube channels. One of mybig YouTube channels that's still alive is Federal
Jacktube six. Well, I getemails from YouTube two three times a week
and I screenshot them. Don well, we removed this in this video for

(01:09:00):
coal misinformation, you know, andit's remember they started it with COVID,
and it was only supposed to befor COVID. That's only that's what they
were gonna do it for. Butsee, that's the camel's nose underneath the
tent. And once the camel's nosegets underneath the tent's you're gonna then the
whole next thing, you know,the whole camel's under the tent, then
you're gonna have a hard time gettingthe camel out of the tent. Ladies

(01:09:23):
and gentlemen. And that old proverbis true because now you have the government,
or in this case, you haveYouTube of private entity allowed a government
agency, the CDC and the wh O, to get the camel's nose
underneath the tent, and now everythingis medical misinformation. They're not taking down

(01:09:43):
videos about COVID. They're taking aboutobviously they're they're attacking me on videos I
put up about vaccines and stuff.But they're taking down stuff now don about
cancer. I interviewed a mom andher or a young mother about her young
daughter at the time was dear inFlorida was dealing with cancer and cannabis was
the only thing that was putting herdaughter, Dahlia her cancer in remission and

(01:10:09):
they had to go out of stateto get it. And they were one
of the moms. They were calledthe canna Mooms here in Florida, and
they were responsible for getting US medicalmarijuana legislation that was passed. They were
like big activists in it. Theywent and spoke up at Capitol Hill,
they spoke to the state Senate.Anyway, they banned that interview I did

(01:10:30):
with her because we talked about cannabisas a treatment for cancer, and they
said, nope, it's medical misinformation. And it's like, but no,
it's not Israel. I mean,people love Israel right now, right,
Well, Israel has been experimenting withcannabis for like fifteen years to eradicate tumors.
It's a it's actually a treatment overthere. But I mean, I

(01:10:55):
guess they're all they're crazy kooky conspiracytheorists too. Maybe maybe the IDEF should
have their YouTube video YouTube channel shutdown. Well, it's a it's a
whole separate thing anyway. So gettingback to your book, where did what
was the I know that you hada personal tragedy in this your your brother

(01:11:15):
passed away. Was your brother thewas was he a strong was that whole
experience, a strong driving push towrite this book and get these truths out
there to finish it. It wasbecause I I had already started the book
when this thing, because I didn'tknow what this was, but I just
started writing about it, running myfeelings and just kind of keeping track of
the early stuff with the absurd numbersof the lies, the dance, the

(01:11:39):
empty hospitals and the dancing nurses andall that stuff. I didn't know where
what the I had no idea whatthe endgame was. I didn't know,
and uh but I eventually I justsaid, I, you know, I
went on to other projects and startedwriting other things, put it aside.
And uh then when my brother justcompletely added the unexpectedly was killed because you

(01:12:00):
know, he died because he wasa hypochondriac. He went to the emergency
room before I knew he was inthere for something stupid, and as soon
as they got him in there,they had him in their clutches, they
claiming tested positive of their ridiculous ninetypercent false positive PCR test. He didn't
have a single symptom. He wasperfectly healthy, no question, he'd be
alive today if he hadn't gone inthe hospital. He probably would have lived

(01:12:23):
to be one hundred. He wasvery healthy, and I still really resented.
I was so mad and so bitterbecause they took a perfectly healthy guy.
He went in on January sixth,of all days, and he died
in January twenty. They killed himin two weeks, and they quarantined him
the entire time. And I've hadother people on my show. Two weeks

(01:12:43):
ago, I had a woman andher husband on the show who were the
same hospital that killed my brother,and they almost killed him. He was
fortunate to survive. But I've hadother people including if you remember a Rob
Skiba who was in our World,he died. I had his wife on
talked about him very and these arevery similar stories and the protocol is the

(01:13:05):
same. And so I was soupset about it, and the only way
I could deal with my grief isto talk about it and write about it.
So when I started writing about itand talking about it, I was
overwhelmed by all this response I gotfrom all over the world. People you
know, related to it, andso many people told me their own experiences

(01:13:26):
that helped me. It was catharticfor me, and so I said well,
I've got to finish this book now. For him, it's nothing else.
And so that's so really he wasresponsible for and of course I dedicated
the book him because he was responsiblefor me finishing the book, and so
I've got to do this now.And so because I dedicated the book to
him and the countless maybe millions,who knows how many other people that have

(01:13:50):
died because of the greatest siep inthe history of the world. Yeah,
the dancing nurses thing really used toget me. And I have a friend
of mine who I love dearly.He's like a brother to me, and
he's a nurse and he was workingduring COVID and he was like he would

(01:14:11):
tell me, He's like, youdon you know, you have no idea
how horrible it is. There's peopledying, and I'm thinking to myself,
Yeah, they're dying because you guysare putting them on ventilators. But you
know, they're only doing what they'retold to do. You know, in
the case of like you know,a nurse or you know, they're they're
doing what they're told to do bythe doctors. They thought and then they

(01:14:32):
not. I don't think every doctorthat puts somebody on a ventilator, was
trying to kill them. I thinkthat they thought they were. There was
a lot of doctors that thought theywere doing the right thing. But they
call it practicing medicine for a reasonbecause they're practicing and not like you think,
you know, oh, he's apracticing doctor. If I said I

(01:14:54):
was a practicing mechanic, would youlet me work on your brakes on your
car? R Right. It's it'show you perceive what the words actually mean.
And they are practicing medicine in manycases, they really don't know what's
going to happen. It's the bestguess scenario for them, and they're just
throwing things against the wall at times. So I don't think every doctor was

(01:15:17):
like trying to be evil, butlike they all bought into the kool aid,
and then of course they were oncethey were told, well, you're
our frontline workers, you know,and everybody was praising them. Then it
was suddenly nurses on TikTok like you'dsee an entire oh R team done in
like full gowns doing Yeah, Ican't and I can't tell you, I

(01:15:41):
said. You know, I workedin the hospital for many years and when
I was young, and I can'tI tell people all the time this is.
I can't tell you how impossible thisis. This would have never happened.
As bad as hospitals are, theywould have never allowed anything. First
of all, logistically, there's noplace for them to do it. They'll
have like a you know, astage or something. And when they were
filmed, you saw like patients inthe background and stuff would never ever have

(01:16:04):
happened. You know, how howdid they get this together? The entire
nursing staff just shut down and didall that. Who was watching the patients,
who was answering the phones. It'sjust absolutely impossible. It was an
insult to anyone's in time. Theywere so choreographed, they obviously had been
practiced. This was an insult toanyone's intelligence. And again, I think
it's the way when they do thesesyops, they love to advertise that it

(01:16:27):
is a siop. And I thinkthat was one of the biggest indicators that
it was a siop, that youknow, they're literally dancing in your face
and they and people just sit thereand it doesn't matter. They could have
winked at the screen and said,this is a syop. It's all fake
and you'd still have millions of peoplebelieve it, and it's it's just a
shame. But that's where we arenow. We're so dumb down in gullible

(01:16:48):
society that they can do these thingseasily. It was amazing to see,
like out of one side of theirmouth, you know, the Native Americans
used to say, you know,speak with four could tongue, So out
of one side of their mouth,they're like, oh my god, there's
so many people dying done that wehave to get shipping containers and put the

(01:17:09):
bodies in shipping containers. It's horrible. And then out of the other side
of their mouth they're releasing TikTok videosand it's like, well, what is
it. You guys are busy andthere's lots of dead people, or you
have time to do this really intricatelychoreographed dance in an o r in full

(01:17:30):
you know what, Like in themilitary, we'd call it battle rattle.
They're wearing oar battle rattle and they'reout there doing dances and it's like,
what what is this? It's insultanyone's intelligence and the bodies thing is a
joke. The refrigerated trucks. Themore you know, again. I go
into all that in the book.They have people that film these things,

(01:17:50):
that film all the refrigerated trucks froma distance because they couldn't get that close.
Every one of them was turned off. None of them were turned off.
There wasn't a single body refrigeratord where. It was absolute bullshit, and
it was all over the media,the media, you know it, all
these these bodies on the Schenectady Riverand these trucks and they've been sitting there
for a year and say, Imean didn't even make any sense waiting for

(01:18:13):
families to claim them. It's like, what what are you talking about.
The prisoners on Rikers Island are busy, well, the prisoners on Rikers Island
that some of the busy works theydo from time to time dig graves for
pauper's graves. So it was nothingnew. So they took advantage of this.
All the all the hospitals or theyhave so many bodies, you had
to open new hospitals. And evenTrump would slip up and say they haven't

(01:18:33):
they none of them had any patientsever, they would admit it. They
not have a single patient. Sothey were It was just and that's the
part that a lot of these otherpeople are forgetting the early part part a
the COVID party when they built upthe syap. This this is the greatest
siap in the history world. There'sno other way to describe it. It

(01:18:55):
really it was like nine to elevenwas a psychological operation in its own right,
but it was and it was perpetratedon the people of the world,
but it was more so focused specificallyon the United States, on the people
of the United States. And thenyou had, like a stone being thrown
into a pond, you had uhoh, we lost on like a stone

(01:19:15):
being thrown into a pond. Youdid have this ripple effect going clear across
the pond, like where nine toeleven happened, although on a worldwide scale,
it was focused on the United States. On a worldwide scale there unfortunately,
there was people that were affected downthe line, Afghanistan, Iraq,

(01:19:40):
things like that. But with COVIDit was a worldwide thing because you had
nurses dancing, and not only America, but you had them doing it in
the UK, you had them doingit throughout like the European Union. You
had them doing it all over theworld. And then the same lies and

(01:20:02):
the same psychological operation that was perpetratednot only on the people of the United
States during this whole event, butit was perpetrated on the people of the
world on such a vast scale thateven today people are afraid to talk about
certain things. I mean, thereare still countries that will force you to

(01:20:25):
you know, they'll they'll at thedrop of a hat, they'll force you
to wear a mask again, They'llthey'll they want to do it here.
But the lockdowns were super unpopular aftera while. They pushed it too long.
They just pushed it for way toolong, and they ended up dunce
back. Let me bring him backin here. All right, you're back
done. Yeah, I don't know. Obviously they don't like what we're talking

(01:20:47):
about or whatever. Just just getdisconnected from it. So it happens.
You know, it's you wouldn't bethat. Look over my career of doing
this, you wouldn't be the firstguest that I've had blip out of existence
multiple times while we're having a conversation. It's happened to Judith Baker repeatedly with
me. Susan Lindauer. Susan Lindauer. One time she was on the phone

(01:21:11):
with me doing a live interview,and she's like, Popeye, I have
somebody running around my yard wearing allblack right now. And I'm like,
uh oh yeah. So like Imean, there, you know, there
are certain subjects that the powers thatshouldn't be maybe don't want discussed. So
it wouldn't surprise me if somebody wasmessing with your connection. So I was
I was talking about you had saidit was such a worldwide psyop, and

(01:21:34):
I was explaining, like how nineto eleven even though it had ripples across
the world like invading Afghanistan and Irock and stuff, it was still focused
primarily on the American people were this. This was put out everywhere, like
every country, I mean every countryhad their dancing nurses, you know on
TikTok, which okay, you're gonnatell me that wasn't that wasn't coordinated.

(01:21:58):
They just all decided to like messageeach other, Oh, the American nurses
are dancing, We should dance too, well, dance yeah, what are
you gonna do? But does dance? Yeah? This was and That's why
I've said before this was a Icall it the greatest side of the history
of the world because and I've alsosaid it was World War three. People
keep talking about World War three comingup. I think we had World War
three, and I think it wasbasically basically when the entire world, and

(01:22:19):
I mean the entire world rolled overand just accepted all this nonsense. Within
a couple of days, the entireworld shut down. Within a couple of
days. They started putting on thesestupid mass They started stupid the stupid non
science social distancing. They started obeyingall these mandates that they were fine with
small businesses being closed selling the sameproducts as a national change that were allowed

(01:22:43):
to stay open. They they justdidn't question anything, and I mean almost
no one did, and I meananywhere in the world. There was not
I mean not a single country balkedat this. They also people that talk
about world government, it looks likewe already have world government because they all
agreed to this, and basically you'restill seeing it in many degrees. The

(01:23:04):
governments all around the world, thegovernments are at war with their own people.
And it was really I think illustratedperfectly in COVID. The governments were
just establishing these absurd mandates, whichagain, mandates are not anything official.
Mandates are like you know, backin medieval times when you know, representative

(01:23:25):
the king would go out with abugle and say here ye, here are
ye, and there's on order,a decree from the king, and just
tell the peasants what they couldn't door whatever. That's what they were doing
us. The state legislators weren't passingthese kinds of proposals, and you had
medical tyranny. You had the medicalindustrial complex saying you can't do this,
and you had you know, peoplerunning around with their stupid mass on that

(01:23:47):
every box says it doesn't protect youfrom viruses, and they're putting it on,
and they were so scared of transmission. And yet there were no hazmat
containers, no recycling containers for themass throw them wherever they wanted. No
one questioned, why, my god, these deadly COVID germs are anywhere.
And most importantly, Popeye, thesouthern border was never closed. And that's

(01:24:10):
the first that's the first sign thatshould have been Okay, this is not
real. This is not a realpandemic, because if it was, our
leaders would take it seriously and they'dbe scared for themselves and their families.
They would have closed the southern border. It never closed. It was business
as usual. And then when Bidengot into office, Uh, and you
had the vaccine mandates. The onlypeople that weren't required to get vaccine mandates

(01:24:33):
in most jobs were the people comingacross the border. They even asked Biden's
press secretary about that, and shesaid so. They basically said, so,
all government workers have to get vaccines, but illegal immigrants coming acos across
the border aren't being required to getvaccines. And she said, that's right.
So and again nobody balked. Itdidn't matter what they did. I

(01:24:56):
mean, they just hit you overthe head with it. There's this tyranny,
and it didn't matter. They theyit was like right in your face,
you're right. I mean, casein point, if you want to
look at the media Chris Cuomo andhis coming out of the basement, remember
that, Yes, I mean itwas a joke, even though like he
was supposedly you know, oh,he's got COVID and he's at home,

(01:25:19):
he's isolating. And then somebody caughthim on their phone running around his property
where they were getting in the housethey were getting built, and the guy's
like, hey, aren't you ChrisCuomo aren't you supposed to be in your
basement? And he gets into aphysical confrontation with the guy. It all
gets caught on video, it getsbrought out, Nobody bats and eye.

(01:25:41):
Two days later, CNN does thewhole Chris Cuomo coming out of the basement.
I've been Look, I've been I'vebeen in the basement for two weeks.
No you haven't, you liar,and nobody batted an eye. That's
not even why he got fired fromCNN. He got fired from CNN because
he got caught giving his brother adviceand he wasn't wasn't being impartial. And

(01:26:02):
I'm sorry, I mean, it'sjust silly. You're right, it's right
in your face, like you're theguy. He only got nailed with his
brother because of you know, JanisDean and all the families that were pissed
at Cuomo about their and rightfully so, about their family members dying in these
you know, these nursing homes.But he didn't get taken to task for

(01:26:25):
like what you said, part ofthe sye up. I mean, that
was complete. You can't tell methat wasn't engineered. Don come on,
of course, yeah, and Ihave all that masking the truth. I
talk about the the guy who wasa sixty five year old guy I think
on a bicycle, was bullied bythreatened by Cuomo and also Tecker Carlson again,
who was the only one that didany kind of decent work on it
in the mainstream media. He reada letter from the property a man manager

(01:26:51):
of Cuomo's apartment building, Chris Cuomo, and he said, you know,
you've been rewarned repeatedly about not wearingyour mask skin elevators and in the lobby
and so this this guy was notoriousfor not wearing his mask. So again
he didn't take it seriously. Buthe was saying, you same thing with
Nancy Pelosi in the hair salon withLori Lightfoot when she had to get a

(01:27:13):
haircut. Gavin knew him at thedinner out there in La These are John
Kerrey on the airplane. These peoplewere constantly caught without their masks. And
again I said, at the time, I said, they obviously aren't taking
this seriously. Why are you,I mean, aren't they scared for their
lives? Of course not. Imean Cuomo banned people from having thanksgivings and

(01:27:33):
stuff, and then he had toI mean Andrew Cuomo, and he had
to back down when they found outthat he was going to have a family
get together with his family, becauseyou know, do as I say,
not as I do, And sohe did have to back down because it
was good enough for him. Soagain this is that's not the way science
works, that's not the way pandemicsworks. It's supposed to not be you

(01:27:54):
know, play favorites. But thiswas politicized in the very beginning when they
didn't close down the South and borders. That told you all you need to
know, and I said that repeatedly. But again, the people, this
is a divide in the country,and it kind of goes it's almost pretty
much like the Trump divide. Forthe most part, the people that like

(01:28:15):
Trump and still like him are theones buying large who are awake to some
degree. The other side is woke, which means they're asleep. They're not
awake to anything anymore. They're absolutelycomatose, and they're buying everything. So
they're gonna they're gonna buy COVID,they're gonna buy If there's a World War
three and we have to go intoit on the side of Israel or Ukraine
or whatever, they're gonna buy thattoo. They're buying everything in the main

(01:28:40):
street. This corrupt establishment is selling. The other side is dubious, and
it's it's split pretty much fifty tofifty down the middle. But the problem
is they're fifty percent has all thepower. You know, we may have
millions, you know, we haveeighty ninety million people maybe that you know,
you know or oppose this, buthow many people do we have in

(01:29:01):
power reflecting that? Again, Sowe don't we don't have a society that
reflects the population at large because wetheoretically, because the population is divided,
philosophically, we should have a congress. We should have a corporate world where
you see kind of that same kindof split. So you have you know,
you have big corporations maybe that thatsay when say, well you've got

(01:29:27):
to you know, you can't havethis guy say that men can't give birth
or something. You would have corporationsthat would just laugh at them and say,
what the hell are you talking about? Men can't give birth? Of
course I'm not gonna go apologize.He's exactly right. You don't have that.
Every one of them roll over andplay dead when they're pressured a little
bit with identity politics, and thesame thing with in the Congress and the

(01:29:51):
courts everywhere you would have that split. You don't. The people in power,
almost all of them are buying themnarrative, they're selling the corruption.
They're corrupt themselves. It's the otherside half the country that is powerless but
is growing restless, and I don'tknow what they can do because look what
happened in January sixth. I thinkthat's the only reason why you're not having

(01:30:14):
more demonstrations and protests, because peopleare rightfully scared. They don't want to
end up in prison because look lookwhat they did the general. You know,
we don't want to go to seventeenprison for seventeen years because we're nearer
in proximity to where a couple youknow, undercover agents break windows or whatever.
So I don't know what the answeris meant, but the only time
you're allowed to apparently storm the Capitolbuilding is when you're trying to storm the

(01:30:42):
Capitol building in the name of beingpro I'm going to say this with air
quotes, being pro Palestinian, rightbecause all of this right now, they're
with the whole World War three thingin the Middle East going on. There's
so much misin going back and forth, and I of course I don't agree

(01:31:03):
with the people in the Gaza Stripgetting just mercilessly bombed, you know,
day in and day out. Imean, Hamas is garbage, But I
mean all these terror groups, theyall stem from, you know, a
state sponsored actor somewhere, and alot of times it's our government. A

(01:31:24):
lot of times it's the intelligence agenciesof other governments that you know. Without
getting too sidetracked into that, thepoint is people are gonna, Yeah,
people are going to blindly go rightinto World War three, just like they
did with the whole COVID thing.There's a meme ount there don where it's
got the MPC heads and it's like, I believe in the current thing.

(01:31:45):
And at first it's like they're allwearing masks and it's got a little COVID,
you know, little COVID symbol upin the corner, and then everyone's
got everyone's holding a Ukrainian flag,and then the third one underneath is now
everyone's holding the Israeli flag, andit's the same thing. It's like,
I just support the latest thing.Now that again, my grandmother was a
Dutch Jew. I told you thisoff air my grandma and the listeners know

(01:32:08):
this. My grandmother was a DutchJew in a concentration gip So. I
don't agree with the slaughter of theJews either, But like this whole thing,
this whole thing that we're experiencing rightnow, this is all a psyop
to drag us into war. There'sno way that shin bet God didn't know
that was going to happen. Okay, absolutely no way that they didn't know.

(01:32:30):
And if people are think, well, they wouldn't allow Jews to be
slaughtered popeye, Yes they would becausethese people that run these countries, these
people at the very tops of thingsover the years, the one constant,
the one common thing that they allhave in common. Doesn't matter what country
they're from, doesn't matter what religionthey pretend to adhere to. They are

(01:32:54):
all Satanists. They do not havea problem sacrificing people. Okay, it
doesn't matter if you think that theyworship Satan or Yabulan or whatever you want
to call their deity. It doesn'tmatter. They could they could be worshiping
Cthulhu. It does not matter.They do not believe in the religion that

(01:33:15):
they pretend to hide behind, whetherit be you know, Islam, whether
it be Judaism, Christianity, orany other religion you want to pick all
of the I mean, even theDalai Lama is connected to the CIA.
Do your research, ladies and gentlemen. He's controlled opposition too, right right,
yeah, basically again they see theMiddle East situation is uh, it's

(01:33:36):
predicated on how how Israel was bornand how who supported them. We supported
them, the UK supported him,and this is you know, you can't
just put a bunch of people whoare religious enemies and ethnic enemies in the
midst of all those Arabs and takeon land that belonged to somebody else and

(01:33:59):
just expected to work. And againthey knew that what they knew it was
going to happen. Again the chaos. Out of chaos comes order, divide
and conqueror. They love chaos andthey did that on purpose. They knew
what would result. And they're stilldoing that because they're at this point,
Yes, Israel has a right toexist. Well, the people in Israel
have a right to exist. Noteverybody has the right to exist, obviously,

(01:34:23):
but so do the Palestinians. Butthey're they're even I'd get an argument,
especially Christian Zionis, they're the worst. They They literally will tell you
there was no such thing as Palistine. I'll show them maps that have Palestine
on it. I'll say, whatdo you what do you mean they weren't?
I mean, they're denying that thesepeople exist. Yeah, they'll say
there's no I mean I've I've actuallyheard the argument there's no such thing as
Palestinians. And I'm like, well, what do you call the people that

(01:34:45):
then live there? Do you whatdo you call them? All? They're
terrorists? They're all terrorists little kids. It's like, no, they're not.
That's over simplification and being stupid.I mean they bumped Rammanuel's father and
Israel admitted this. This is notbeing anti Semitic. A couple of you'd
probably it was probably eight or nineyears ago. Urt, you know,

(01:35:09):
Urt was famous for, you know, putting stuff out there that nobody else
would. But they they showed thisceremony from Israel and you see them where
they were commemorating the guys that survived, that were alive at the time that
there was a It was a theywere called they were like Israeli they were,
although they weren't Israelis yet, butthey were Jewish air gun terrorists.

(01:35:33):
And Ram Emmanuel's father was one ofthese guys. They were operatives, and
they literally they admitted, we dressedup like Palestinians and bombed the King David
Hotel. Yes, these guys medals. You can you could probably find the
video archive of it somewhere. Idon't know if it's still on YouTube,

(01:35:56):
but and now that URT has banned, good luck finding it, you know,
on RT's YouTube channel. But theythey did. They had this whole
ceremony where they were giving medals tothe survivors of this unit. And these
guys admitted, they were like proudof it that they had dressed up like
Palestinians and they say, we dressedup like Palestinians and bomb the King David
Hotel. And that's that led tothe formation of Israel as we know today.

(01:36:23):
And there's more to it, youknow, politics and stuff in the
back end, but you can seelike that, like you said, don
you can't just take a group ofone group of religious people and slap them
in the middle of another group ofreligious people who have completely different views on
things, and then expect them toget along when they haven't gotten along already.
And but it's okay, they haven'tgotten along for thousands of years,

(01:36:45):
but we're gonna purposely put you righthere and then that that that's you know,
I've I've argued whether or not Godis a real estate agent. I
mean, you did real estate.Do you really think that whatever creative energy
or force or entity created all thislife and everything? Do you really think
that that that energy, that cosmicforce, that all knowing being has the

(01:37:09):
time or the even care to belike, oh, yeah, you people,
you people are specifically get this onepiece of sand that's this big right
exactly. This is stupid. Thisis absolutely stupid. Of course to say
you had right to that. Imean, how far does this go back?
I mean, so again, andthat's what you have. Groups like
Loraza in Mexico they have a point. We did take you know, in

(01:37:32):
the unconstitutional war, the mexic UsMexican War. We did take some of
their land, So they have apoint. I don't like the group,
they're you know, ridiculously radical,but uh they so it's their precedents of
that, and why why should webe able to do that? Why should
is to be able to do that. Uh, you know something thinks we
did with the Indians and so forth. It's you know, we shouldn't.

(01:37:56):
The bottom line is we shouldn't beinvolved, and and that's we need to.
I'm not coming out and saying weshould fight on the side of Palestinians.
My sympathies are with the Palestinians.I think they're the underdog here clearly,
and I always go for the otherdog. But I wouldn't I wouldn't
go and fight for the Palestinians,and I certainly wouldn't go fight for the
Israelis. It's not our fight withdrawpull the plug on Israel at this point.

(01:38:18):
Israel, we built you into thefourth most powerful military in the world,
which is ridiculous. You're the sizeof Rhode Island, and uh,
you don't need our help anymore.You're on your own. It's time.
It's time to flee the flee thenest I pull the plug in Israel.
I pull the plug on all fourand aid, but certainly on that and
it would be interesting to see whatis of course, the especially American Jews,

(01:38:38):
will say, well, if youlike Ben Shapiro, these you know
foaming at the mouth. These thesepeople are just nuts. If you look
at Ben Shapiro and Mark Levin,these guys, I mean, they look
like genuine you know, they shouldbe in a padded room somewhere. They
are foaming at the mouth and goingcret. Well, there's going to be
a nuclear war and there it's basicallyso if we don't support Israel, and

(01:38:59):
they're actually saying making it look likeIsrael is really bad because they're saying,
if we don't get involved in supportIsrael, they're gonna they're gonna nuke them.
So what does that say about Israel? Right? If you think they're
gonna nuke them? So I'm sorryI would take that chance. No,
I'm not involved anymore. You wantto do that, that's you know,
pretty incredibly you know, the irresponsiblething to do. But of course,

(01:39:20):
you know, we knew Japan,so what are we saying? But I
think it's just ridiculous that that allthis attention is being taken. As I
wrote in my last sub stack,I said, you know, I look
around me, and I see aninfrastructure that hasn't been touched for sixty years.
I see a disparity of wealth theworld has never seen before. We're
at the bottom half of the country. It literally has nothing. People are

(01:39:42):
crapping in the streets and living intents in major American cities, corruption from
top to bottom. Everywhere you voteprobably doesn't count. And I'm sorry,
I just can't get worked up aboutwhat's going on in Israel in the Middle
Pace. And but you know,but people, you know this is we
need to take care of Charity beginsat home when your own home, when

(01:40:04):
the roof is collapsing and your kidsare starving, you don't leave them behind
and walk out around the neighborhood tryingto get involved in those people's lives.
And that's what we do. There'sa meme I saw that encompasses what you
just said, and it's it's itsays it's guy's face and these two guys
talking to one guy is like,hey, did you hear about what's going

(01:40:26):
on in the Middle East? Andthen it shows the other guy and he
says, I work six jobs andpay three thousand dollars a month in rent.
I don't give a shit about what'sgoing on in the Middle East right
now. And that meme is correctly, We're gonna Biden. People don't realize
this, but after his little youknow address the other night, he's asking

(01:40:47):
Congress and you know they're going tojust pass it. They'll do it.
He's asking for one hundred billion dollarsmore and he wants sixty of it to
go to Ukraine. Course, gottagive Zelinski his coke money she got,
you know that guy. You can'ttell me he doesn't have a cocaine problem.
How does how does somebody? Howdoes somebody get so buff in the

(01:41:11):
middle of a war? Because whenthat war started he was in like worst
shape. And now he comes out. He's always wearing these tight T shirts.
You see, he works out andhis wife, his wife seems to
have gotten a bunch of cosmetic surgery, you know, over the years,
because and I'm not criticizing the femaleform, but she went from having a
rather modest bus line to a ratherlarge bus line. And it's like,

(01:41:38):
well, where did you get themoney for the fake boots from? I
mean these were probably paid for it, right, of course. I mean
it came out of the billions we'vealready given them. So they want to
give Ukraine another sixty billion. Theywant to give like ten or fifteen billion
to Israel. How about how aboutten billion for the American people? How

(01:41:58):
many billions of dollars would pay offall of the mortgages in this country,
So people could actually take their moneythat you know, own their properties.
People could take the money and likeinvest it into maybe upgrading the properties.
That would solve the whole landlord problem. I know they people people were told
to hate landlords during COVID, Butthat would solve the whole landlord problem because

(01:42:19):
if the landlords, if they're iftheir mortgages were paid off, maybe they
could lower the rent for those Americans. Maybe maybe that would be a thing.
Maybe you could say, we'll bailyour building out, but you got
to lower the rent on the peoplein your building. If we do that
for you, Okay, that's fair. You could sign a contract to take
the money for that people. Youknow, everyone's a tax paying citizen,

(01:42:42):
right, Well, how about not? I saw the national debt clock the
other day, and I think thedebt for per citizen is something right now
like over one hundred thousand dollars peritz. I mean, this is ridiculous.
Where's the money coming from? Wherethey just print out of thin air?
Folks? That's not how any ofthis works. They want to run this

(01:43:03):
country into the ground. And whilethey're doing it, they're going to keep
laundering money through whatever any way theypossibly can. I mean Ukraine giant,
you know, money laundering machine.I guarantee you not all sixty billion dollars
goes over there. And of courseBiden and his address was like, well,
you know, the money that wepass for them, it actually it

(01:43:26):
goes to our companies because they haveto. They're replenishing the stocks of our
supplies that we've given out. Wellthat's another problem. Why are we giving
out so many of our supplies?Militarily the oil reserves we're selling off to
China for the debt that they have, you know, like because they've purchased
our debt. Like this is we'resystematically destroying our country. But let's just

(01:43:47):
keep giving the money away. Ifwe're going to put ourselves in debt,
how about we finance our own country. How about we do that first?
I mean infrastructure, Like you said, we have bridges that are falling,
down, falling apart. Let's notcare about that. Don we have to
make sure that the small companies.I saw this report from sixty minutes.

(01:44:08):
And I already knew things like thiswere happening, but to watch how the
mainstream gloated about it made my headexplode. They were talking about, oh,
well, the money, some ofthe money that we're giving to Ukraine
is helping shore up small businesses inUkraine, because you guys, economy has
to function, though, how aboutour small business se I mean, it's

(01:44:29):
it's discussing, and again it pointsout to what I said, where there's
nobody in public life that is onour side, that is thinking about these
things. They're all promoting the corruptnarrative. They're all part of it,
they all profit from it. They'renot gonna The system has been very very
good to them. It's been horribleto about eighty percent of Americans and during

(01:44:53):
degrees and so. But none ofthose, you know, none of the
eighty percent has any power influence beyondthis. These kind of things are the
kind of platforms we can get onshows like this or you know, the
books like that I can write andput out you to whatever degree that I
can. And that's why, youknow, if we can make something like

(01:45:15):
this book go viral if enough people, but it needs to be promoted by
all the people who have bigger platformsthat I you know again, I can't.
I can't get the people that havea million subscribers on YouTube, and
they don't pay attention to this.And it's a shame because if they they
did that, if we could allcome together, we're all supposedly seeking the

(01:45:35):
same thing, so we have alot of power together. So all these
platforms we have, if we allsupported each other's shows, each other's books,
each other substacks, promoted you knowthings, especially if you can pretty
much tell I think who's maybe doingthe most significant work and promote that.
But we don't do that. There'sa lot of petty jealousy and fighting.

(01:46:00):
And I'm not going to say therewas a person that I tried to get
to who's a friend who has apretty prominent name, to write a blurb
from asking the Truth, and thisperson wouldn't do it, and I think
it was out of petty jealousy becauseyou know, they're kind of in the
same area. And that's the kindof thing that we find. You find

(01:46:24):
that people think you're kind of infringingon their territory. Why am I going
to promote your book because maybe Ihave a book myself. Why am I
going to promote your substack because youknow, I want my substack to do
better. And that's just you know, it's it's a shame because we we
have to come together and build biggerplatforms. The bigger our platforms get,

(01:46:45):
then the more of a chance wehave maybe to again reach those normies,
because that's what we have to do. It's I talked about the libraries and
the people that are still on YouTubeand Twitter, Facebook is pretty hopeless,
but the people that are on thoseforums, there's a chance. As long
as you're there and they lie youthere, maybe you can attract some people
that aren't in the choir because youand I are just preaching to the choir

(01:47:08):
most of the time. I mean, everybody listening to the show is probably
you know, awake, so they'regonna they're probably not gonna argue too much
with anything that we say, andthey're going to just nod their heads and
agree. But we need to beable to reach the people who who don't
believe this or don't understand it,because maybe, you know, we can.

(01:47:29):
I have confidence in myself when I'mtalking about it. I think I
can persuade people, But you know, you have to give the opportunity where
this isn't a level playing field.You know, I've written, I have
said that many times. We're noton a level playing field. It's hard
to win the game when the gameis rigged. And this game is rigged.
Agreed. And your your books doa great job of exposing a lot

(01:47:51):
of the lies and the misinformation putout by the government and the mainstream media.
They really do. I mean,I've known you done for you know,
years now, and your books,I mean I actually just got on
audible the one you wrote about HollywoodOhen Bard fame. Good. That's it.

(01:48:14):
Yes, yeah, thanks, that'sgreat. I appreciate that. Yeah,
And that's you know, I dowrite about other things like that because
corruption is there as well. Thewhole that whole book is really basically that
corruption. My book on bullying,Buleocracy, it's about you know, bullying
in schools and the form of corruption. Survival of the Richest is about the
economic rig system how it treats theworking class and the poor, and so

(01:48:38):
everything I write is basically about someaspect of the injustice of the corruption.
And there are I don't think toomany people are writing about it as much
as I am, but I'm concentratedpretty much on Hidden Hisstry now because that
those are the ones, the crimesand cover ups you talked about in the
original Hidden Hisstry, those are theones that sell way better than all the
others. So I'm putting out theone next year, A Maria the American

(01:49:00):
Memory Hole. That's gonna have alot more about the JFK assassination in nine
to eleven Oklahoma City and going backto Lincoln Grant. It's kind of a
combination of the other two books,a lot more on FDR and Woodrow Wilson,
and you'll JFK JR. A lotmore of that stuff, and it's
kind of a deep dive into it. It's got a lot of detailed information.

(01:49:20):
I think people will be astonished atawesome your your books are absolute,
just mind blowing. I I Ilike to listen to what like when I
I go to the gym three daysa week. I started going back and
exercising again after surgery and stuff.So a lot of people like Blair music.

(01:49:43):
I listened to audible. Well I'mworking out. I used to listen
to music, but I like listeningto my audio books, and I'm psyched
because I saw that. Yeah,you know, I love the fact that
your stuff is available on a platformlike Audible, because you know, I
mean, I love to read.I love physical hard copies of books,
but I also like to have thataudible version because I can do two things

(01:50:06):
at once. I can like bedoing something and listening to a book and
absorb the information. And your yourbooks are just awesome. They're absolute gems.
I'm glad that you you exist,don and I'm glad that you're here
to help educate the masses because longafter we're gone, your works. I

(01:50:31):
mean, look, there's books thatare around that are three four hundred years
old, ye not older. Soyour stuff is going to be around for
so many future generations to learn from. Well that's what That's a heady thing,
and that's why it does. Itgives you a really giddy feeling.
One of the reasons I always wantedto be a writer is because that's a
really cool thing to picture, isthat you know, a couple hundred years

(01:50:54):
from now, that someone may pickup one of your books and look at
it and say, well, Iassuming people are still reading. I mean,
you know, the way things aregoing. I don't know, we've
lost the ability to read completely theidiocracy trend. I don't I don't know
that how many people a couple hundredyears and that would even be able to
comprehend my book because I average IQcould be down to fifty by then or

(01:51:15):
something. The way's dropping. Yeah, fingers crossed. We don't keep heading
in the idiocracy lane. But Imean that that movie should have been a
documentary too. Yes, yep,absolutely, my lord done. If there's
one thing in your book, becausewe have a we have about I mean
we have about seven minutes, soabout six seven minutes. So if there's

(01:51:41):
one thing in Masking the Truth thatyou want the listeners to take home,
If there was like one thing thatthey could take home from that book,
what would it be, Well,I would I would take on the fact
that, again the government tells you, not me, the the government and
the the FDA. There was awoman in Canada, not a professional journalist,
because as we know, professional journalistsdon't do any investigating. They're not

(01:52:03):
allowed to or they lose their jobs. But a woman in Canada sued under
the Freedom of Information Act to tryto get the FDA to produce the documentation
for the isolates the COVID nineteen isolateswhen they developed the magical vaccine, and
so you know, if you're developinga vaccine for something, you should have,

(01:52:26):
you know, the isolates of whateverit is you're vaccinating people against.
They finally got back to her,the FDA, after she sued them,
and admitted that no, we don'thave isolates of COVID nineteen, and we
had to simulate the COVID nineteen strainby using the remnants of the regular coronavirus,

(01:52:50):
which is of course the common coal. So to me, I don't
think there's any better proof out therethan that. And there's also things the
CDs, and they've basically they've said, whenever anybody has asked for isolates,
they're not available. They don't havethem. So again, I think this
needs let's take it back to itsbasics. What is COVID nineteen, And

(01:53:10):
I said, you know, COVID. I'm the only one saying this.
COVID nineteen is called COVID nineteen becauseit's the twenty nineteen version of the yearly
coronavirus strain. When the flu seasoncomes, it's supposed to burn out in
the heat, so we should itshould have burned out in the spring of
twenty twenty. It didn't. Keptit keeps coming back. So what happened
to COVID twenty what happened to COVIDtwenty one, what happened to COVID twenty

(01:53:32):
two. We should be getting COVIDtwenty three. Now. Nobody mentions that.
So if there are people like AndrewKaufman and lots of others that don't
even believe in the viral theory,they may have a point. Because if
we believe in the viral theory,if there really are such things as viruses,
science tells us that these things comearound once every year in the fall,
when things get cold and they burnout in the heat, and they

(01:53:55):
give them the name of the year. So that was the twenty nineteen strain.
Why didn't it burn out? Whydid China recently over the summer say
oh, there's going to be abig you know, a new variant that's
coming that's dangerous in the summer.That's impossible under viral theory, you can't
have a virus suddenly appearing in theheat like that in the summer. Nobody's

(01:54:18):
questioning that I am, and I'msaying that they can't produce. They cannot
produce the strain of COVID nineteen.They tell you not a conspiracy theorist,
so they haven't proven that it exists. I think, considering all the other
evidence, the lies and my bookdocuments them thoroughly how they lied about people

(01:54:39):
obviously dying of other causes and includedthem in the COVID death to begin with.
They did it and padded the statstremendously, so they basically we know
the CDC. This also needs tobe remembered too, and one of the
first things I published on Facebook wasback when they before they were shadowed banning
me, was the April twenty twentydirective to hospitals by the CDC. I

(01:55:00):
told them, you are to listthe cause of death as COVID nineteen,
even when the patient hasn't been tested. Doesn't get any clearer than that.
So you combine that with the factthey can't produce the isolates, it's pretty
clear what's going on. The emptyhospital videos that everybody has, the dancing
nurses, all that, it's prettyobvious that this was contrived and this was

(01:55:23):
the fear porn on steroids. Peoplegot all excited. They use these home
tests that the guy to Carrie Muliswho developed the test and died suspiciously right
before COVID hit and said it,said it was worthless. Not a conspiracy
theorist, the guy who developed thetest. Nobody knows more about a test
than the one who invented it.Carrie Mula said, it's worthless. That's

(01:55:44):
the home test hits that people myfamily and friends and everybody know are taking
NonStop. Oh it says I'm positiveagain. I've got COVID for the eighth
time. Even though I've got eightboosters. They're still taking the stupid test
that he told you was a ninetypercent false positive rate. So consider all
that in the context and everything thathappened, all the rights you gave up,
the liberties, the precedents you setbecause because you obeyed these nonsensical mandates

(01:56:10):
the first time, you pave theway for them to do it again.
They want to do it again.They proved that they can shut the whole
world down in a couple of days, and nobody's going to protest. So
people need to think about it.And I hope if they try it again,
I hope that people, the vastmajority, won't roll over and obey,
but I just don't have much confidence. Yeah, no, the unfortunately,

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the mind control precedent has been set. Don we have about two minutes
really quick. I wish I hadmore time with you tonight. There's so
many things I'd love to throw outthere too. You know, sudden suddenly
dying is a new thing. Allof a sudden, people are just having
heart attacks all over the place.Turbot cancer, but I'm sure that has

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nothing to do with the vaccine.I'm sure you know. Heavy sarcasm,
folks done? Where can people followyou on substack again and on Twitter?
Throw out there? Yeah, it'sDonald Jeffries a substack dot com I protest,
please subscribe to me. That thereis a pay option and more and
more people are paying, and Ireally appreciate that. I want to support

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me, but it's there's no paywall. I'm a populist, so everything you
don't get anything more for being apaid subscriber than you do for free.
So all the information is free.But if you want to help, that's
one way to do it. AndI appreciate, uh the increasing number of
people that are doing that. Twitteris at Don Jefferies. That's uh,
you know, again, try tobreak the algorithm. The more followers I
get there, it's the harder itbecomes for them to like unfollow people for

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me and the little games they play. Those are the two really main places
that you can follow me. Facebook, I have the maximum a number of
friends I have for a long time. But uh, it's it does you
know? Basically, they they shadowin anything I try to write about my
books or anything I talk about politically, if a personal stuff, they like
it go. But so I reallycan't promote there. So substack is the

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way to go. And I certainlyappreciate all the people. And of course
you can listen to my show IProtest, which airs at me Friday from
five to seven pm Easter on rockfindot com and also live streams on my
YouTube channel. It's Donald Jeffries atYouTube. You can find me there if
you subscribe to me there too.That's well because it's great because the numbers
anywhere you can get the numbers higher. It makes it for a larger platform

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and gives you more credibility. Itmost certainly does. Every little like and
click helps Don. Thank you somuch. My brother for coming on tonight
with me for two hours and givingme your time on a Saturday night.
You are an amazing human being,sir, and as I've said, you
really are an inspiration. I amglad to be your friend, and I'm
glad to help you out in anyway. I can promote any of your

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books anytime. You are always welcomehere, and the door is always open
for you, my brother. Well, I appreciate that, and I'm proud
to be your friend, and iappreciate the opportunity that you give me,
and I appreciate your audience. Andyou're doing great work as well, Popeye
too. And again, I'm happyto be here. And anytime you want

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me, you know, I'm happyto be here. Just let me know,
and I will never say no toyou. I thank you, I
appreciate you done. I know mylisteners do, ladies and gentlemen. With
that, we are out of here, and I'm gonna leave on a positive
note. Darkness cannot drive out darkness, only light can do that. Hate
cannot drive out hate, only lovecan do that. I'll catch you all

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again live next week. We're outof here.