The JFK Assassination - Proof of a Conspiracy - Rabbit Hole Radio with Host Popeye

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One world currency. I imagine thatright now you're feeling a bit like Alice
tumbling down the rabbit hole. Letme tell you why you're here. You're
here because you know something. Whatyou know you can't explain, but you

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feel it. You felt it yourentire life that there's something wrong in the
world. You don't know what itis, but it's there, like a
splinter in your mind, driving youmad. It is this feeling that has
brought you to me. This isyour last chance. After this, there
is no turning about. You takethe blue pill. The story end.

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You wake up in your bed andbelieve whatever you want. You take the
red pill. You stay in Wonderland, and I show you how to beat
the rabbit hole dolls. All I'moffering is the truth. People, When
we are opposed around the world bya monolithic and roomless conspiracy and relies primarily

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on covert means for expanding its sphereof influence, on infiltration instead of invasion,
on subversion instead of elections, onintimidation, instead of free choice,
on guerrillas by night instead of armiesby day. It is a system which
has been scripted vast human and materialresources into the building of a titman nith

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highly efficient machine that combine military,diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific,
and political operations. Its preparations areconcealed, not published. Its mistakes are
buried, not headlined. Its descentivesare silenced, not praised. No expenditure

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is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. But I
am asking your help and the tremendoustask of informing and alerting the American people.
And now welcome to another episode ofDown the rabbit Hole. Here's your
host, It's Popeye. Ladies andgentlemen, Welcome to another live edition of

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rabbit Hole Radio. It is Decembertwo, twenty twenty three. On tonight's
edition, I'm going to be gettinginto the JFK assassination again. I have
a special broadcast for you all tonight. It is something I put together actually
around the fifth, the fiftieth anniversary, and I want to replay it for

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you all because it's really an excellentbroadcast. And I have over the years
here at KGIRA done some other greatbroadcasts on JFK and the original title of
this broadcast I did ten years agowas called JFK A Case for Conspiracy,

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and I've done like a remake ofthat broadcast here on age are years ago
where I did a with this,or I did a broadcast of the same
title. But this specific special broadcastthat I put together ten years ago for
the fiftieth it's pretty incredible, andit's hard to re do some of that

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magic, especially considering I have abrain injury, so sometimes it's you know,
it's hard to You can't go backin time and pull the same magic.
Sometimes you can't just redo something.Sometimes it's better just for y'all to
hear the original special broadcast. Soin this case, that's what I'm doing
for you tonight. I am goingto be re airing this broadcast and it's

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got video and stuff to go alongwith it. So you'll hear me mentioned
Federal Jack dot com. Unfortunately,Federal Jack the links that you'll hear me
mention where I tell you to gocheck out, like the jfk assassination archive,
Federal Jack isn't around anymore, sothose links aren't going to be readily
available. But at the time whenI made this special broadcast, they were.

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We had a huge archive section thatI had created over there on Federal
Jack, and it was the JFKAssassination Archive and you could go in there
and all of my shows on theJFK assassination were in there for you to
download for free. Plus there wasprobably about fifty or sixty different videos,
full length documentaries, shorter videos,everything you could possibly imagine about the JFK

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assassination. All the video evidence thatI have that I was able to upload
to our server and put out therefor people and audio for people to download.
But unfortunately, Federaljack dot Com isgone. If we ever do rebuild
the five, all that stuff issaved, it's just it's not up and
active right now. If we everrebuilt the site as like an archives site,

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all that stuff I still have it. Either way, even if it
had been deleted from the servers andstuff and it was gone, I still
have archives and backups of archives andbackups of backups of backups of archives.
So I've been archiving things for twentyyears. As soon as I saw this

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information that was readily available at thetime, I started ripping it because I
knew that there wasn't going to bea forever timeline to this. I knew
that it wasn't going to be there, you know, in twenty thirty years
I was actually surprised it was allowedup back then. Once the powers that
shouldn't be started paying attention more tothe Internet and they started paying attention more

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to certain things, then well thenthey've done what they've done. It was
really after Trump got in. Itwas when they really went hard after YouTube
and Facebook and all this stuff,and they went after social media. Before
that, it was easier to spreadinformation. Now it's not seven years later
as much more difficult to communicate witheach other, is much more difficult for

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me to present evidence to you YouTubebands stuff. This broadcast will not be
on YouTube. It's going to beon my Rumble channel. It'll be on
my kick livestream channel, and itof course will be on Kgire's Facebook and
in the video archives and on Kgira'sRumble channel, which is where you're all
probably watching this right now live onone of the rumbles or Facebook. Can't

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be YouTube because it's not going there. I cannot put this broadcast on YouTube.
When I did ten years ago,I got copyright strikes on one of
my channels, multiple copyright strikes,and of course anything that's used it wasn't
from any of the jfkse it wasfrom some other stuff that I played during

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the broadcast for everybody. But regardlessdoesn't matter. Fair use doesn't exist.
Only exists if you have millions ofdollars and you're a studio executive and you
can work with another studio and say, hey, you know, do you
mind if we use your stuff?But when it's a independent creator who doesn't
kiss studio butt and who does notkiss any butt, really fair use doesn't

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work, and it doesn't matter.You don't have for fair use. You
can look it up. You don'thave to ask permission for things. That's
YouTube's bs. That's their garbage wherethey put you after you get a strike,
they put you through like YouTube copyrightschool, and it's no fair use.
You can use someone's stuff if you'recommentating on it or if you're not

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just playing it out right. Imean, you can't just take a documentary.
And in certain cases you can't takeI can't go take like a full
length movie like one of the likethe new Godzilla flick right Godzilla Minus one.
I can't take that a copy ofthat movie and just put it up
on YouTube for free for everybody tosee. Sure, that's copyright violation,

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of course it is. But ifI played snippets of the movie and then
did an entire commentary on it,or if I did, you know,
say, I play the whole movieand you know, I do like a
two and a half hour long commentaryon it, but as I'm playing it,
I'm you know, I cut maybesee key scenes out or cut things

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out for brevity and for also tohelp along with that, you know,
not going with getting hit by copyrightstrike, then bam, I'd be allowed
to do it. Although there's alot of channels that do things like horror
movie history and stuff like that.They're you know, horror based channels,

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and yes, I like horror,and I like scary movies and stuff like
that. I read, you know, true crime stuff, listen to a
lot of that stuff off air.But there's a few channels, one in
particular, I know, Big Channelthat's had some issues with YouTube over the

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years because you know, they'll breakdown a horror movie and of course during
them either breaking down the horror movie, discussing it, going over the entire
movie at length, and giving theirtake on the whole thing, they've been
hit and it's what they do isfair use, It's just it is the

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way it is with YouTube. Theyare corporate owned. You know, they're
owned by Google, the grand mastersof censorship. And I mean they were
already censoring people years ago. Beforetwenty sixteen. I had plenty of channels
taken down. But twenty sixteen seemsto be when they're really ramped it up.
The only other time I saw itramped up like that was in two
thousand and eight when Ron Paul wasrunning for president, or excuse me,

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twenty twelve, not two thousand andeight, twenty twelve, when he was
running for president against Obama and Obamawas running for a second term and Ron
Paul ran. He actually would havewon the nomination, but the RNZA screwed
him and made sure that it wasMitt Romney that got it because they wanted
they knew Romney was going to lose. They needed to put somebody up against

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Obama that could lose anyway. I'mgetting sidetracked and see so easy to do.
So that's why my broadcasts are noton YouTube. Once in a blue
moon, if I'm live streaming,I might live stream to YouTube, but
I don't really anymore because every timeI've streamed there. I get in trouble.

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Every time I get a copyright strike, I get community guideline strikes.
I've been screen capturing the emails thatI get daily from YouTube on both DtrH
Radio Archives and Federal Jack Tube sixand Federal Jack Tube four, and it's
ridiculous. Still I have a coupleother channels too, but it's just utterly

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ridiculous how much stuff gets removed fromthem. It's crazy. They just keep
deleting stuff taken away, the videos. Oh this is this violates community standards
because at first it started with thevaccine stuff, you know, oh,
you're going against what the who saysabout vaccines, and then it just spread
to other stuff. I mean,any any reason they'll they'll call it medical

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misinformation. I've had stuff removed becausethey say I'm calling for violence and it's
hate speech and stuff like that.I've never, never, ever, ever,
have I got an error called forviolence or said anything hateful. But
see, we warned about this yearsago that the term hate speech could be

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or is going to be used todefine anything critical of the official narrative of
whatever the official narrative is, andthey will use that to shut people up.
And silence people. And that's exactlywhat they are doing anyway, end
of YouTube censorship rant. It justwas in my mind and I needed to

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get that off my chest. SoI want to get back to the matter
at hand, and that would bepresenting for you the broadcast I have set
up for you, the jfk AssassinationProof of a Conspiracy. This is a
great broadcast. When I had putit together years and years ago, I

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had added because originally, you know, years and years and years ago,
we were only doing radio. Therewas no video component. So I took
the audio archive and I made avideo for it and the evidence that I
had aired. Instead of just airingthe audio, I aired if there was
accompanying video to go along with it, I put the video in there as

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well. And that is what youall are going to get a chance to
see tonight. And that's why Iwant you to see it, because after
watching this, you if if Imean it's sixty years later, So if
you still think that a lone gunmanshot Kennedy in an impossible time frame with
a piece of crap rifle, pullingoff impossible shots, that marksmen, some

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of the world's best marksmen can't recreatewell, then, I don't know what
to tell you, but I thinkif you're listening to this broadcast, you
question everything, and if you're stillnot sold on the JFK assassination being a
conspiracy after tonight, I'm pretty sureyou will agree. So I'm going to

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bring up the video and let's getto it. Here we go, the
JFK assassination proof of a conspiracy.I know you're out there. I can
feel you now. I know thatyou're afraid. You're afraid of us,

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You're afraid of change. I don'tknow the future. I didn't come here
to tell you how this is goingto end. I came here to tell
you how it's going to begin.I'm going to show these people which you
don't want them to see. I'mgoing to show them a world without you,
a world without rules and controls,without borders or boundaries, a world

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where anything is possible. Where wego from there, there is a choice.
I leave to you. Ladies andgentlemen, Welcome to tonight's edition of
Down the Rabbit Hole. Tonight,again, I'm going to be spending more
time diving into the assassination of PresidentJohn F. Kennedy. Since it's coming

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up to the fiftieth anniversary, youall need to know this. If you
don't, it's very important information.So tonight I'm gonna be getting into some
more evidence for you. And again, rather than let you all hear me
bloviate, which I will, I'mgonna add my two cents. Don't you
worry. I'll give you my analysison things here and there. But I

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want you to hear from researchers ofthe past, and I want you to
also hear from witnesses and other evidencethat's out there as well. So I
have a bunch of it. Ihave a ton of audio I want to
get to play for you all.I'm gonna try to squeeze it in here
in two hours. Hopefully I'll beable to fit it all in. If

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not, I might have to doanother broadcast with more evidence. Trust me,
there's that much stuff out there.And again, a lot of this
stuff can be downloaded for free foryourselves from the JFK Downloadable Archive section on
Federal Jack dot com. Go overthere right now. Feel free to download
the entire thing anything you want,take it, Go out and get books.

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I've recommended tons of good books aboutthe Kennedy assassination before in the past.
There's a ton of good books.Crossfire by Jim Mars, JFK,
The CIA, Vietnam and The Plotto Assassinate John F. Kennedy by Colonel
L. Fletcher Proudy, The SecretTeam, which I would also read to
understand how things are done by ColonelL. Fletcher Prouty. Then you have

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Mary's Mosaic by Peter Janey. That'sa little bit further down into the rabbit
hole to understand his mindset, butnonetheless still a great book, Mary's Mosaic
by Peter Janey, and then Enemyof the Truth Sherry Feister, Me and
Lee by Judith Baker. She's alsogot a book coming out on David Ferry
David Ferry and Mafia Pilot. Goget that book. Then you have LBJ

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in The Conspiracy to Kill Kennedy byJoseph P. Farrell, JFK. In
The Unspeakable by James Douglas. There'sa bunch of good ones. There's also
a couple of good ones about BobbyKennedy, who killed Bobby Kennedy. The
Unsolved Murder of Robert F. Kennedyby Shane O'Sullivan and also The Assassination of

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Robert Kennedy by William Turner and JohnChristian. So there are a few good
books out there. Actually, there'sa lot of good books. Oh also
get Garrison's book on the assassination ofJohn F. Kennedy. It's called On
the Trail of the Assassins. Andalso for RFK, John F. Kennedy's
brother, you can also get RFKI Must Die by Robert Blair Kaiser,

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another good book. There's a tonof work out there, ladies and gentlemen,
that you have not been exposed to. There's a ton of evidence that
you have not been exposed to.That's just a bunch of books. And
that's not the end all, beall list of books either, that's just
a smattering of them, a smalllittle smidgeon. If you will, I
suggest you do more research, doas much research into the assassination of President

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John F. Kennedy as you possiblycan. Remember. Remember this is a
big deal. I constantly hear dealfifty years later pop life in the past.
I'm sure most of the people aredead. You're right, most of
the people are dead. So whykeep everything secret? Then? Why not
allow the public to know the truth? Why lie. Why keep pushing the

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story that it was a lone gunmanLee Hallvey Oswald when it was not a
lone gunman. Oswald was not byhimself. That's a lie. So why
keep pushing these fallacies? Why makefun of people that bring up evidence,
factual evidence? Why attack them?Obviously they still think it's important fifty years

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later, so maybe you should too. Kennedy's assassination was a lynchpin to a
lot of the things that we're dealingwith today. Think about it. The
Vietnam War wouldn't have happened. Hewould have ended that. He was going
to get rid of the Federal Reserve. That's our biggest problem right now,
one of them the economy, andwho's at fault for that, the bankers

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and the Federal Reserve and our government, and who controls the government through controlling
the money the bankers that own theFederal Reserve bank right, he was going
to end them. He was goingto end the CIA and all their crap
drug wars. How many false flagterror events or deaths or hijackings or whatnot
or whatever could have been avoided.It's amazing when you sit back and actually

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think about how deep and how farthis actually could have affected history as we
know it. If you just thinkabout it for a brief moment, it's
pretty deep, ladies and gentlemen.So it's important that we discussed this and
not forget the assassination of a presidentwas not a lone gunman. That's just

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nuts to think that's insane. Tothink this could be pulled off by lone
gunman is insane. Okay, okay, if you believe Oswald did the shooting,
and you don't put any of theevidence to the test that's out there
that says he didn't do the shooting, But say you believe the shooting story,
right, you believe the official versionof the shooting. How could Oswald

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have covered it up? Did hehave dirt on Hoover, the head of
the FBI. Did he have dirton the vice president that became the president
LBJ? Did he have connections atthe CIA? Did he have connections in
the Secret Service by the way,that he could make the Secret Service stand
down during the shooting? Really thinkabout it for a minute. Logically,

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use your brain, damn it,you all have them. This is important.
I know a lot of people it'snot really important. It's important.
It's very important. There's a lotof reasons why they'd assassinate President Kennedy and
want to take him out, alot of reasons. I'm going to play

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a piece of audio first for you. Many of you have heard me play
this in conjunction with other stuff,but I'm going to play a piece of
audio for you. It's a speechthat Kennedy gave and I want you to
listen. I want you to listento the words. Okay, I want
you to listen to what he's sayingbecause it's very important. Listen to the

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warning he was giving out to theAmerican public. And tell me again,
when was the last time you've hearda president talk like this since President John
F. Kennedy had his head blownoff in Dealey Plaza on November twenty second,
nineteen sixty three. You haven't.There's the answer. I'll answer it
for you. You haven't heard anotherpresident speak like this. So let's hear

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what President John F. Kennedy hadto say. Here we go, President
Kennedy. Take it away, ladiesand gentlemen. The very word secrecy is
repugnant in a free and open society, and we are as a people inherently
and historically opposed to secret societies,to secret oaths and the secret proceedings.

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We decided long ago that the dangersof excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts
far outweighed the dangers which are citedto justify it. Even today, there
is little value in opposing the threatof a closed society by imitating its arbitrary
restrictions. Even today, there islittle value in ensuring the survival of our

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nation if our traditions do not survivewith it. And there is very grave
danger that an announced need for increasedsecurity will be seized upon by those anxious
to expand its meaning to the verylimits of official censorship and concealment that I
do not intend to permit to theextent that it's in my control. And

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no official of my administration, whetherhis rank is high or low, civilian
or military, should interpret my wordshere tonight as an excuse to sense of
the news, to stifle dissent,to cover up our mistakes, or to
withhold from the press from the publicthe facts they deserve to know. For

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we are opposed around the world bya monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily
on covet means for expanding its sphereof influence, on infiltration instead of invasion,
on subversion, instead of elections,on intimidation, instead of free choice,

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on guerrillas by night instead of armiesby day. It is a system
which has conscripted vast human and materialresources into the building of a tightly knit,
highly efficient machine that combines military,diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific,

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and political operations. Its preparations areconcealed, not published. Its mistakes
are buried, not headlined. Itsdescents are silenced, not praised, praised,
silence not praised. No expenditure isquestioned, no rumor is printed,

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no secret is revealed. No presidentshould fear public scrutiny of his program,
for from that scrutiny comes understanding,and from that understanding comes support or opposition,
and both are necessary. I amnot asking your newspapers to support an
administration, but I am asking yourhelp in the tremendous task of informing and

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alerting the American people. For Ihave complete confidence and the response and dedication
of our citizens whenever they are fullyinformed. I not only could not stifle
controversy among your readers, I welcomeit this administration intends to be candid about

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its errors, for, as awise man once said, an error doesn't
become a mistake until you refuse tocorrect it. We intend to accept full
responsibility for our errors, and weexpect you to point them out when we
missed them. Without debate, withoutcriticism, no administration and no country can

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succeed, and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker so
decreted a crime for any citizen toshrink from controversy. And that is why
our press was protected by the FirstAmendment, the only business in America specifically
protected by the Constitution. Not primarilyto amuse and entertain, not to emphasize

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the trivial and the sentimental, notto simply give the public what it wants,
but to inform, to arouse,to reflect, to state our dangers
and our opportunities, to indicate ourcrises and our choices, to lead,
mold, educate, and sometimes evenanger public opinion. This means greater coverage

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and analysis of international news, forit is no longer far away and foreign,
but close at hand and local.It means greater attention to improved understanding
of the news as well as improvedtransmission. And it means, finally,
the government, at all levels mustbe its obligation provides you with the fullest

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possible information outside the narrowest limits ofnational security. And so it is to
the printing press, to the recorderof man's deeds, the keeper of his
conscience, the courier of his news, that we look for strength, and
the sisters confident that with your help, man will be what he was born

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to be, free and independent,not enslaved and incorporated. Remember that,
let's get right into the mounds ofevidence, ladies and gentlemen, because we're
limited for time. So first Iwant to start off with Colonel L.
Fletcher Proudy and his thoughts on theassassination of President John F. Kennedy.

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Now he's got a book titled JFK. Go get it. Colonel L.
Fletcher Prouty. I've talked about himmany a time, have had Lensenecon talking
about him. But since Colonel Proutyis no longer alive, I figured I
would play some audio from him,some of it courtesy of Lenosenek, for

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you all to hear. The firstis about a minute and a half long
minute forty five long it's him talkingabout what he sees as a red flag
when it comes to Dealey Plaza andthe Secret Service. And remember who Colonel
L. Fletcher Prouty was. Hewas the chief of Special Ops under President

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Kennedy, the first chief of SpecialOps. So he wasn't just some you
know, guy in his basement whodecided to come up with this and doesn't
have any type of military background whatsoever. Okay, just that's important. This
man's knowledge cannot just be swiped awayin his analysis, things cannot just be

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cast aside. Proud he is thereal deal anyway. First, let's get
to his thoughts on the red flagthat was the Secret Service stand down in
Dealey Plaza. What they call protectionof the president is an old skill.
I went to Mexico City in nineteenfifty six when President Eisenheer went to Mexico

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City, and by that I meanthe security people went there more than a
month early to look at every angleof the trip. There are rules and
manuals on what we call protection.The Secret Service, that is a organization
of limited size, is authorized tocall any number of military people. And
these are military people who are alreadytrained to augment their forces. In a

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case like this, there's no shortageof people. Ordinarily, a unit of
military I think was called a SpecialGroup number one thirteen would have come up
from San Antonio, Texas and wouldhave been deployed all through the streets of
Dallas, the important streets of Dallas. That was not done in In fact,
the commander was specifically told he wasn'tneeded. You've all seen the picture
of the Schoolbook building, you know, where Oswald is supposed to have shot

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the president. You notice in thosepictures there were open windows. If the
Secret Service had been there and haddone their usual job, none of those
windows would have been opened. Andhad anyone opened one of those windows at
that time, they would have beenon the radio. They would have had
a man in that room immediately andthe window would have been closed. You
see, that's protection that didn't takeplace. In fact, there were no

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Secret Service people on the ground aroundDaily Plaza that afternoon. They were told
they were not needed. Instead ofgoing straight down the street and then to
the trademark, he made this ninetydegree turn and then another very sharp turn
in front of the school bookpository building. Now the Secret Service have rules against
that. The rules are that ifthe car is slowed down below forty four

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miles an hour, you must thenprotect it fully in other ways, such
as not digressing and going them oundcorners and all that. Because when you
slowed him around that corner, youopened up field of fire from three directions
behind him, to the side,and from in front. And of course
he was killed right in that position. That's right, he was killed right

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in that position. Nice kill box, set up triangulation across fire. John
F. Kennedy didn't stand a chance. That's why they had him turn onto
ELM from Houston. That wasn't theoriginal parade route either. They had him

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switch the parade route so that wayhe could be in that area of Delley
Plaza and the car would be sloweddown to eleven miles an hour, and
that's slow enough for shooters to hithim, especially in that killbox right there.
That was the one spot that theyknew that they could get him and
make sure he didn't make it outalive, and they did exactly that.

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Check out my broadcasts with Vince Palomara, Secret Service Expert, have had him
on multiple times talking about the standdown with the Secret Service. So go
listen to them in the archives,and it's all available. Also, any
of my shows I've done on theJFK assassination the archives are available not only
in my archives section, but ifyou go to the downloadable archives section,

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they're there, and the downloadable archivessection itself, not just the Down the
rabbit Hole one, but the archivesection for JFK also has all the shows
I've done on John F. Kennedy'sassassination in there as well. Let's see
what Colonel Proudy had to say aboutthe possibility of hired guns, hired assassins,

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professionals hit men to take out PresidentJohn F. Kennedy. Colonel Fletcher
Prouty was Chief of Special Operations ofthe Joint Chiefs of Staff during Kennedy's presidency.
He believes even more powerful forces wereultimately responsible. I think without any
question, it's what we call theuse of hired gun and this isn't new.

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In fact, this little manual here, which is called the Assassination Manual
for Latin America, contains a linewhich says that talking about Latin America,
if possible, professional criminals will behired to carry out specific selective jobs.
Jobs in quote which means murders.Well, if this manual for Latin America

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printed within the last few years,and a government manual says that, there's
no question but what the application ofthe same techniques was dated back in Kennedy's
time. In fact, I knowthat from my own experience. You know,
I was in that business in thosedays. So with that knowledge,
you'll begin to realize that hired criminals, the way this book says, can

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be hired by anybody in power withsufficient money to pay them, but more
importantly, with sufficient power to operatethe cover up ever after, because you
see this one thing to kill somebody, it's another thing to cover up the
fact that you did it, orthat you hired somebody to do it,
and that's more difficult. So theyuse the device of the Warren Commission report

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to cover up their hired killers.Now, who would hire the col killers?
And who has the power to putthe Warren Commission report out over the
top of the whole story? Yousee, you're dealing with a very high
echelon of power. It doesn't necessarilyreside in any government, it doesn't necessarily
reside in any single corporate institution,but it seems to reside in a blend

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of the two. Otherwise, howcould you have gotten people like the Chief
Justice of Supreme Court to participate inthe cover up, the police in Dallas
to participate in the cover up,etc. And the media, you know,
all the media, not just oneor two newspapers, but none of
them will print the story that otherthan Oswald killed the president with tree bullets,
something that's absolutely untrue. So thereyou have a former chief of Special

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Operations telling you that Oswald did notdo the shooting, that the official story
is a lie that the mainstream mediais in on it. So remember that
when you're watching all these fiftieth anniversaryspecials that are being played on television in

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the past few weeks, they're alloutrageous lies, every single one of them.
You just heard a former chief ofSpecial Operations tell you that the official
story of Oswald hitting them with threebullets is a lie. You know,
they can't even get their story straight. I saw them talking about the Kennedy

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assassination the other day, I thinkit was CNN or CBS was either one
or the two, and the persontalking said that Connolly was hit by multiple
bullets. Really, maybe you shouldgo read that, and he was pushing
the official version. He wasn't pushinga conspiracy theory. He was pushing the
official version. Connonly wasn't hit multipletimes by multiple rounds in the official version.

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They can't even get their story straight. They don't know. These people
that are talking to you on television, they don't know. They have absolutely
no idea what they're talking about,none whatsoever. They haven't got the slightest
clue. They're reading off of ateleprompter typed up by somebody who probably has
no clue because none of them werealive. I'm willing to bet. I'm

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willing to bet none of the producersat these TV networks were even alive on
these TV shows, I'm willingly butnone of them were alive when Kennedy was
assassinated. I'm willing to bet mostof the news anchors weren't alive. Maybe
some of the older ones. Theymight have been much much younger at the
time, but I'm will the betmost of the staff at these news studios

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weren't even alive when Kennedy was assassinated, So they have no idea none.
They don't know the true they don'teven have the slightest idea of what they're
talking about. They're fed the informationby somebody else, and of course somebody
high up the food chain it doesknow the truth is there to make sure

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what gets on and what doesn't getOn's the way the mainstream media is.
They are all in on it.Again, you just heard a former chief
of Special Operations tell you that theyare all in on it. What more
evidence do you need than that?All Right, ladies and gentlemen, we
have a break coming up, sodon't go anywhere. When we get back,

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I have more evidence from Colonel L. Fletcher Proudy. We're gonna get
into a man named Ed Lansdale.His name seems to pop up in the
Kennedy assassination as well as other conspiraciesother interesting things that the government's been up
to. Interestingly enough, Lansdale's namecame up recently when I was listening to

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an interview Nick Redford did about abook he wrote called The Pyramids and the
Pentagon, and Lansdale's name came upinvolved in something else, So I just
thought it was interesting. Anyway,ladies and gentlemen, the break is coming
up. Do not go anywhere whenwe get back. I have more information
as I said about Ed Lansdale fromColonel L. Fletcher Proudy and what he

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was doing in Daley Plaza on Novembertwenty second, nineteen sixty three. So
stay tuned, ladies and gentlemen,we are back. Let's get right back
into it. Got some audio Iwant to play for you another clip of
Colonel L. Fletcher Proudy, thistime discussing Ed Lansdale with a little bit
of background information on Ed Lansdale.But he's discussing a picture that he saw

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that he recognized as Ed Lansdale.The picture was taken in Dealey Plaza on
November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. Let's listen to what Colonel Prouty had
to say, shall we. ColonelFletcher Proudy discusses Daley Plaza, November twenty
second, nineteen sixty three. ColonelProuty worked in the US military for twenty

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three years, nine years in thePentagon from nineteen fifty five to nineteen sixty
three. He worked closely with manyinfluential people, including Director of Central Intelligence
Alan Dulles, General Victor Krulak,and General Edward Lansdale. Colonel Prouty's work
centered on special operations the support ofClandeston activities. While in the Office of

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the Joint Chiefs of Staff, heworked with the Office of Cover and Deception.
He established and was the first headof the Focal Point office between the
Air Force and the CIA, theChief of Team B. Here are observations
he made in nineteen eighty nine regardingphotographs taken in Daley Plaza. The photographic

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evidence as a total at that timeis absolutely amazing. What various researchers have
done is take all these photographs andplace them in a time frame so that
you can see where people standing inone place and as the same personal here
and otherwise, and begin to identifysome of these people. So we've worked

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very hard on looking carefully at whois in these pictures. There are several
of them that are really outstanding,And one of the most amazing is this
group of these three men who thenews story said had been removed from a
box car in a rail yard rightin back of Daily Plaza. And we're
being led from that box car bypolice to the Sheriff's office, and that's

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the end of it. The trailends. They weren't booked, as no
record of them at all. Well, let's look at the pictures. The
pictures do show three men that somebodyhave called tramps. Well, they've got
new shoes on that they are nottramps. The police that are leading them
one in front, one and backone of them has very clearly hearing device

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in his ear. And furthermore,the Dallas police don't lead prisoners into the
sheriff's office. The police and thesheriff's office worked together, but their jobs
are entirely different, and in asense, taking prisoners to the sheriff's office
is the last place the police wouldtake any prisoners. So all that part
of it is very questionable. Sowhen researchers had arrived at that point,

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one of them came to me oneday and said, look of all the
pictures we've studied, this little episodeof these men being marched right across the
in front of the school book Depositorybuilding where Oswald was supposed to have been,
across the street by day Plaza,where the president's car had just gone
into the Sheriff's office. There's somethingwrong about these pictures. So we looked

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at them very carefully, and inthe very first picture, in addition to
the two policemen and the three tramps, as they're called, is another man,
and he's walking in the other direction. But the thing about it is
so that his back is more orless to his side, and his back
is more or less to the photographerrather than face forward. There's something about

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it is, how is it possiblethat anyone at Dealey Plaza that day and
here these men are probably being marchedacross there five minutes after the president was
killed. Everybody was running around,people were excited, sirens were blowing out,
and here's this man in a businesssuit, just as casually walking along.

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He doesn't even turn, he's notlooking at anybody, just walking past,
and he happens to be standing bythese men as they're being marched.
The least he would be doing islooking at these prisoners or looking at the
policeman. You know, anybody would, especially at that time. This man's
looking at nobody. And I recognizedimmediately that that man is General Lansdale.

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Now Lansdale is a very interesting inthe Kennedy era, and I know last
day. I worked with him offand on from about nineteen fifty two to
to well nineteen sixty three he retired. This is interesting. He retired from
the Air Force on October thirty first, nineteen sixty three. Well, of

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course, the picture could have beenone hundred other people, and I could
be wrong, but I know himvery well. Then I looked at the
tramps themselves, and there's this strangelittle eye catch between this man and the
first tramp coming by. In otherwords, the first tramp, instead of
being seriously concerned about the fact thathe may be charged with the murder of

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the president, is smiling, andthe second tramp has a sort of a
quizzical little look, and you cantell that he has looked at this man
walking by, and he has thesame kind of approach you know, has
always just been reassured everything's all right. The third man happens to be in
back from the camp's point of view, and you don't see him at all,
but that little bit of expression issaying an awful lot at that moment.

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The police themselves have expressions that indicatemore that, as if they were
saying to somebody, say, boss, am I doing all right? You
know that kind of thing? Inother words, was Lansdale walking down right
in front of the school book propositoryability to sort of reassure some people here,
maybe his employees or somebody that's workingfor what's the significance of that.

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Well, of course that happened tobe my own interpretation. The men who
had brought the pictures to me hadthe slightest idea who it was, and
I decided at that moment that whatwas needed next was a lot of research.
So I got some very clear copiesof those professional pictures. These pictures
were taken by a professional news cameraman. I got a clear picture, and

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I started mailing the picture to acquaintancesof mine, an acquaintance of Lansdale who
knew him. Without any of mythoughts, I simply would send the picture
and say, can you tell mewhat this looks like to you? This
was taken shortly after the death ofthe president, and I wonder if this

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picture calls anything to mine. Toyou, you'd be amazed to find that
from senior people in the government,such as Lansdale was, or such as
I was at the time, Igot immediate confirmation that said Lansdale. Well,
now I don't know why it wasin Dallas. I can't go interer
that, but it's astounding that thisman who was Assistant Secretary of Defense for

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Special Operations after General Graves Erskine retired. Who was the man who had more
or less almost single handedly set upthem as President of Southron, who again
almost single handedly had set up Presidentof MACISTEI as the President of Philipinions,

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was considered probably the most significant personin the US military US government on the
subject of counter insurgency, civic actions, special Forces Green Beret troops. He
had written, He had written thebooks that the Green Brays used in their
courses down at Fort Bright. Whatcould have been his role at that time?

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I had a very personal interest inthat, because only a month or
two before that, Lansdale had metme in the Halls of the Pentagon and
said that he had arranged for meto go as a escort military escort officer
with a VIP party to the SouthPole. And it happened that I left

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for the South Pole on about Novembertenth or something like that, and that
I was in New Zealand on ourway back from the South Pole when I
heard about President Kennedy being killed.Why Lansdale asked me to go to the
South Pole, I have no idea, or was this some connection between this
role that he may have been playingin Dallas and the fact that he would

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just assume I'd be out of town. And I reflected on that, especially
when I begin to realize that almostall of Kennedy's cabinet was out of town,
that some forty five officials with thecabinet were also out of town in
Honolulu and on their way to Tokyo. They're actually on their way to Tokyo
when the president was killed. Andover the years I have made a study
of how many people central to theinner workings of the secret government of this

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country had been moved out of Washingtonat that time. It's a very very
interesting subject. I wish I couldanswer it. I don't know how to
answer it. I'm sure the pictureis Lansdale. Others are sure it's Lansdale,
and I have to leave it there. Colonel Fletcher Proudy and General Victor

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Krulak both worked with General Edward Lansdalein the Pentagon. Both men identify him
being in Deey Plaza November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. General Lansdale specialized
in political psychological warfare, operations,and manipulation of governments. He worked for
Alan Doulles, the Director of CentralIntelligence. Although his cover story title was

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Air Force Colonel and later General,he was always working for the CIA.
The photo of him reveals deep involvementwith certain members of the CIA in the
planning, removal, cover story,and cover up of the assassination of President
Kennedy in Dallas on November twenty second, nineteen sixty three. Planning and cover

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story for such manipulation of government personnelwas Lansdale's forte documents shown here are available
at TRIPLEW dot Prowdy dot org.That address again, ladies and gentlemen,
is www dot Proudy dot org.That is www dot Prowty p ruty dot

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org. Go there and you canpurchase from Lenosenek all of the interviews that
exist and out there, including allthe interviews he did with Colonel Proudy.
And he's got just hours and hoursand hours and hours and hours of video,

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and not only just audio interviews withhim, but video interviews with him
as well. And he's got aton of shows. He's a radio show
host, Lenosanek. Most of youknow who he is. He's been a
guest on my radio broadcast before BigThank you for that chunk of audio,
len because that's from him, andit's a plethora of information, a huge

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archive of everything. Colonel L.Fletcher Proudy, so research Colonel Proudy.
The man knew what he was talkingabout. Obviously, he knew ed Lansdale.
And like I said, Lansdale comesup in other cases too when you
start to research things, as doa lot of the other players involved in
the assassination of President John F.Kennedy. Moving right along, because we

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have limited amount of time and aton of stuff to get out there.
I want to move on to whatI consider to be the big red flag,
which is Oswald couldn't do the shooting. Couldn't do it, just could
not do it. Now, I'mgonna play two pieces of audio for you.

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The first snippet is going to setup the second one. The first
one is a piece I cut outfrom Oliver Stones movie JFK. And it's
the character of Jim Garrison, who'splayed by Kevin Costner, and one of

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his investigators, Lou Ivan, andthey're up in the book depository and they're
looking out and they're looking out rightover Plaza and they're trying to figure out
what's going on, what's true,what's not true. They're doing a real
investigation anyway, It's only a fewminutes long. But the conversation that they
have. Everything in that conversation istrue, it's not made up, it's

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not lies, it's true. That'sall factual information. And I want you
to hear it because it sets upthe next clip, which I'm going to
follow it up with, which isan episode of fifty Reasons for fifty Years
from Lenosenek, and it's about therifle because again, this is another aspect

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of Oswald couldn't have done the shooting, even if he was an expert marksman,
which he was not. But evenif he was an expert marksman,
the rifle would not allow him todo the shooting. So there is no
physical way that Oswald could have donethe shooting. In their official version,

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there is no way. And rememberthat's a big point because the official government
story hinges on the fact that Oswaldis a lone gunman and pulled off three
shots three shots by himself. Okay, that's the official story. That's why
they constantly have to attack anybody thatsays there's a conspiracy. Oh and by

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the way, just so everybody isaware, because I know most people don't
realize this, but the House SelectCommittee on Assassinations found back in the seventies
that there was more than enough evidencethat there was a conspiracy to kill Kenny.
They didn't name anybody, and thatwas a whitewash by itself, but
they admitted that there was enough evidenceto show that there was a conspiracy to

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kill Kennedy. So anyway, beforewe run out of time, let me
play the audio for you. First, the piece from JFK the movie,
like I said, talking about DealeyPlaza and shooting and it's just not making
any sense. And then it's goingto go into an episode from LENOSNK fifty

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Reasons for fifty years. You canfind these episodes over on YouTube either at
Conspiracy Scope or I think it's conspiracyScope and then number two now Conspiracy Scope
or Conspiracy Scope two and Lenosenk's officialYouTube channel, len osenic os a n

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I see osank just like it sounds. Spell it out. Anyway, let's
get to the audio. Here wego is a brute of film establishes three
shots and plot points six seconds.Yeah, I'm aweswol Time me go time

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between six seven seconds. And that'swhat out really is. Ka is the
second and third shots came almost righton top of each other. It takes
some minimums two point three seconds torecycle this thing. The other problem is
there was a tree there blocking thefirst two shots. By the time they
kindly approve of company, Jay whowill say something about that, leaves it

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falling off of Northumbler. It wasa Texas live oak chief and she just
leaves the first week of March.So you take this Carconnem was worst shoulder
weapon and you try to hit amoving target at eighty eight yards through heavy
foliage. No way. Yeah,FBI tried two sets of tests. Not

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one of their sharp shooters could matchOswald's performance, not one. And Oswald
was the best medium shot. Thescope was effective on it too. I
mean, there's the whole essence ofthe case. To me. The guy
couldn't do the shooting, and theysold this lemon to the American public.

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Frutal film is a proof that Ididn't count on. You gotta get our
hands on it. That means wehave to subpend a timeline. Let me
ask you something lit, why notjust shoot Kennedy coming up Houston. There's
plenty of time is out in theopen. You know, I keep asking
myself the same things. Frontel shot. Even if you miss him for the

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first shot, if it accelerates,you still got him for the second shot.
No only reason for waiting to gethim on elm you got him in
a triangulated cross fire. You puta team there down that the fence for
a frontal shot, flat low trajectory. Put a third team down here in
this building here on the low floor. Kenny gets the kills on there.

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It's a taky ship. How manymen okay one shooter at one spot on
a radio, maybe three teams.I'd say these professional rifles are too chiefs
serious people, hot patience takes skillsto kill with the rifle people. You

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gotta figure that's why there's been noexecution of a chief executive with one in
two hundred years. Three two MainStreet's over there right, original prey route

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on the way to the trademark.It's too far right, too far impossible
shots, So they change a preyroute. Bring him down here. Moving
a normal twenty five miles pound.The new motivated have to slow down to
about ten miles pound to make thatdown, and that's where we got black

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Op Radio presents fifty reasons for fiftyyears why the Warren commissioned may be the
greatest fraud perpetrated on the American public. In this week's episode, we discussed
Commission Exhibit one thirty nine. It'sa rifle Model ninety one slash thirty eight

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Manluquor Carcano. The carcano designer wasItalian Salvator Carcano stamped on it made Italy
caliber six point five serial number seetwo seven sixty six. The Manlucker Carcano
was jokingly called the humanitarian rifle bythe Italian Army. It earned that nickname

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because they couldn't kill anyone with it. The cheap scope added by Client Sporting
Goods was awful. The doctored backyardphotographs of Lee Oswald with the rifle shows
they had had a bottom sling mount. The rifle found in the depository did
not as well. When he wasquestioned by the Dallas police, Lee told
him he didn't own a rifle.The House Select Committee of Assassinations Firearms Panel

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test fired the rifle and could notmatch its bullets with either CE three ninety
nine the magic bullet or test bulletsfired by the FBI from what was allegedly
the same rifle commissioned Exhibit one thirtynine. That's from Volume one, page
four sixty four of the House SelectCommittee hearings. What more do you need?

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Numerous witnesses to the shooting heard gunshotsthat were spaced so closely and sounded
different from each other that it isnot possible that all the shooting could have
been done by a bold action rifle. Reporters on the scene wrote of here
automatic weapons fire. An unknown riflewith no scope, no sling, and

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considerably longer barrel than a man lookercarcano was filmed being taken from the roof
of the depository. CBS News,which claimed to duplicate the conditions of the
actual assassination in its filmed rifle testin nineteen sixty seven, did not,
according to Dan. Rather, elevenvolunteer marksmen took turns firing clips of three

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bullets each at the moving target.They fired a total of thirty seven three
round series, seventeen of which resultedin unfired bullets due to trouble with the
rifle. Governor Jesse Ventura has heldthe weapon. He has looked through the
scope he's test fired in. Hereare his conclusions of the humanitarian rifle.

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This Governor Jesse Victur the host conspiracytheory. But on two TV on my
TV show, I shot the weaponthey I get to go weapon that Lee
Harvey Oswald was alleged to have usedto murder our President John F. Kennedy.
In fact, the bullets that Ishot that day, the rounds even
came out of the same group ofround They were out of the same boxes

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that apparently are still available today.And I can tell you this, and
the weapon is horrible. The telescopicsite was completely useless. It was so
thin that in order to focus inon the crosshairs, and the amount of
time you had to get the shotsoff was completely impossible. All I could

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do is get the target in thesite, looking through the telescopic site,
and then squeeze. I couldn't doanything more than that. The other thing
that made the shots impossible was workingthe bolt. Oswald allegedly got the shots
off, three of them in sixseconds or thereabouts. I believe the fastest
I could work the boat, getback on target and get a shot off,

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starting with one shot and recycling ittwo more times. I think the
fastest I could do it was themid eightes eight and a half seconds how
fast, which is at least twoseconds slower than allegedly that Oswald did his,
and he did it in six both. So I don't believe that at
all, because when I tried todo it for speed, I wasn't even

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caring how accurate I was shooting.I was simply trying to recycle the bolt
fast enough to equal the speed whichthey sent me. Harvey Oswald did it,
and I couldn't do it at all. This is impossible. I mean
I could do it and pull thetrigger, I still couldn't do it fast
enough, and without even trying tohit the target simply get the round off.

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And so in the end, inlight of the telescopic site, in
light of the fact of recycling,but in light of the weapon itself,
there is no doubt in my mindthat the r V Oswalt could not have
fired and used this weapon to killPresident John F. Kennedy. Gunnery Sergeant

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Cardinals Hathcock one of the most decoratedcombat snipers in the United States military history.
Hathcock earned ninety three confirmed kills inVietnam and went on to become the
senior instructor for the US Marine CorpsSniper Instruction School at Quantico, Virginia.
He said, let me tell youwhat we did at Quantico. We reconstructed

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the whole thing, the angle,the range, the moving target, the
time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don't know how many times we
tried, but we couldn't duplicate whatthe War Commission said Oswald did. Now,
if I can't do it, howin the world to a guy who
was non call and the rifle range? Do it? Stay tuned from this

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installment as we expect. Oh,week after week, fifty lies. The
War and Commission would like you tobelieve. That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
Carlos White Feather Hathcock. If youdon't know who he is, go
look him up. Very famous MarineCorps sniper. The Vietcong nicknamed him White

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Feather because he used to carry awhite feather and his helmet. They feared
him. There were other snipers thatwere sent out to kill him. Yeah,
that didn't work out too well forthose other snipers. Hathcock is a
legend. The guy is a shootinglegend. Anybody that knows anything about shooting

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at all, rightful shooting, militaryhistory, sniping, snipers knows about Carlos
Hathcock. This guy, the legendhimself White Feather, couldn't do the shooting.

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Does that tell you anything, ladiesand gentlemen, Because it should,
It really should. It should speakvolumes to you, massive volumes should tell
you that Oswald could not have donethe shooting, and that and of itself
is a huge red flag, ladiesand gentlemen, one that needs to be

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looked at. We got a breakcoming up. Let me get back.
I got another hour full of informationfor you, so stay tuned, don't
go anywhere. We're back in threeshort minutes, ladies and gentlemen, We
are back with our number two hereon tonight's edition at Down the rabbit Hole.

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information is all about. It's aboutgetting it out, helping wake people up.
Getting into the next section of tonight'sbroadcast, we're going to be discussing
witnesses and people connected to the JFKassassination and the strange deaths thereof a lot

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of people that witnessed the JFK assassinationdied mysteriously and a lot of people connected
to it died mysteriously. Just veryodd circumstances in many, if not all,
of these deaths, you know,coincidence, I don't think so.
It's more like somebody was cleaning houseand cleaning up the mess they made.

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First, you're gonna hear from anold school JFK researcher, one of the
very first Penn Jones Junior. Sadly, he's no longer with us. He
passed away in nineteen ninety eight.If he was still around, he'd be
ninety nine. Penn was a WorldWar Two veteran. Fought in almost every

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major engagement or actually I think everymajor engagement in Europe during World War Two.
Retired as a captain and then boughta newspaper in mid Lothian, Texas
and proceeded to start being a journalistand you know, running a newspaper,
and in nineteen sixty three he startedresearching the Kennedy assassination. Anyway, you're

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gonna hear an interview done back inthe sixties with him by Mark Lane,
who is still around today. Youhave to forgive the audio a little bit.
Remember it was recorded in nineteen sixtythree, so kind of deal with
it. But it's worth it tohear Penn Jones Junior, as I said,
one of the original JFK assassination researcherswho just did not believe what the

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government was officially telling him. Andthe other piece you're going to hear is
about some of the witnesses, anda major portion of it focuses on the
strange death of Lee Bowers died ina single car accident all by himself on
the side of a highway and therewas nobody around, right, right,

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There's a little bit more to thestory. Anyway, I don't want to
waste any more time, so let'sget right into it. First, Penn
Jones Junior. And then the mysteriousdeath of Lee Bowers. We are at
the office of Penn Jones Junior inthe in Texas, twenty five miles from
the Dallas Courthouse. For the pasttwo years, FEE alone in the Dallas
area has conducted an independent investigation intothe assassination of President keppit Well. I

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love President Kennedy very much. Iwas one of the few weekly newspapers that
covered the Ruby trial, and myactual investigating did not again until I started
reading the Warren Report and realized thatsomething was very, very much amiss in
reading that report. I really believethat the only way you can believe the

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Warren report is did not read it. Have you found it difficult to uncover
the facts this time, Yes,it's very difficult. Witnesses are reluctant.
Some of them have gone into hidingor at least cannot be found by me,

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and many in many cases the policehave actually told are that some case,
some witnesses say federal authorities have toldthem not to talk about the assassination.
The witnesses are frightened, some ofthem went into hiding. I'm sure
that I spent at least one monthsearching for Arlene Roberts, and I don't

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know of any person, any newsman, or any investigator that talked to Earlene
Roberts after she testified before the warrantcommissioned, and her testimony was quite startling.
Now, of course she is dead, and she's not the only one.
There are at least eight persons nowdead, either from murder or at

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least strange deaths, who were closelyrelated to Jack Ruby or Lee Harvey Oswald.
Can you give us one instance ofa witness who died a strange death.
Well, let's take the case ofBetty Mooney MacDonald, one of Jack

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Ruby's strippers. A fellow named WarrenReynolds saw a man running from the scene
of the Tivit slave. Shortly thereafter, Reynolds was shot through the head.
Now, before Reynolds was shot,he could not identify the man running from
the scene as Oswald. Then hewas shot through the head and a fellow

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named Garner was arrested. Then McDonaldwas the alibi for Garner. She said
Garner could not have shot Reynolds becausehe was with me at the time.
Two days after her alibi Mooney,Betty Mooney McDonald was arrested for fighting with

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a roommate. Although the roommate wasnot arrested. McDonald was put in jail
that night, and an hour latershe was found hanged in herself, and
of course the Dallas police said shehung herself. Did Reynolds finally testified before
the commission. After Reynolds recovered fromhis wound, he testified and was able

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to identify. That's one of theexamples, and there are many others.
Bill Hunter was shot through the heartin the police station out in Long Beach,
California, h Cody and Cody onthe times. Ror was killed by

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a karate chopped at the throat inhis apartment in Dallas, and the man
that was the most likely suspect wasnot even indicted for the market. The
death of Tom Howard is very strange. He said he died of an apparent

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heart attack. There was no autopsy, but I know personally that Tom how
Howard was acting very strangely three daysbefore he died. I and other people
who saw him felt like that hewas very frightened. Three days later he

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was dead. He was a manwho saw Jack really first after the killing
of Outline. Well, whether thesedeaths are related to the assassination or not,
those the fact that witnesses have diedin this fashion tend to make it
more difficult to secure statements from thosewitnesses who have survived. Certainly, there

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is very little evidence, firsthand evidenceleft. With the raising of the lives
of Tippet and Oswall and these otherpeople who who had first hand conversations with
either Ruby or Oswald, that hasmade the gathering of evidence very difficult,

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And the continued press on these peoplewho still have evidence makes it makes them
hesitant to talk, and makes anyonetrying to do investigative work very, very
difficult. I would love to seea computer faced with the problem coming up

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with the probabilities in the assassination takingplace the way it did with all of
these strange instances that took place beforeand are continuing to take place after the
assassination. I think all of usto love this country should be alerted that
something is wrong in the lane.In the three years after the murders of

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President Kennedy and Lee Harvey Oswald,eighteen material witnesses died, six by gunfire,
three in motor accidents, two bysuicide, one from a cutthroat,
one from a karate chop to theneck, three from heart attacks and two
from natural causes. An actuary engagedby the London Sunday Times concluded that on

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November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, the odds against these witnesses being dead
by February nineteen sixty seven were onehundred thousand trillion. To one. Of

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the hundreds of witnesses around Deally Plazathat day, one was in a unique
position to see what was going onbehind the wooden fence atop the grassy knole.
When questioned, Railroad Supervisor Lee Bowersgave the Warrant Commission intriguing testimony.
But Didley Bowers die before he toldthe complete story of what he saw?
And he listened the tower behind thewooden fence. The only person back there

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who had the right to be there, who wasn't planning to kill the president.
So far as we know, thisis an aerial view of Deally Plaza.
The President's limousine was here when thefatal shot was fired. This is
the Texas school Book Depository where LeeOswald worked, and this is the stockade
fence and the grassy knole. Itis here that assassination witnesses and researchers have

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long believed at least one gunman washidden, the gunman who fired this shot
that killed the president where we employedon November twenty second, nineteen sixty three.
At that time I was caught atthe tower outright for the terminal public.
At twelve thirty pm on November twentysecond, Lee Bowers was here in

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this railroad tower. From this window, he could see the Martin Kaid's progress
on Elm Street, and he hadan unobstructed view of the wooden fence atop
the Grassy Knole. After the assassination, Bowers tried to tell the Warrant Commission
what he saw that day, butlike many other witnesses, he was cut
off. However, in this nineteensixty six interview with Mark Lane, he
was able to finish part of whathe had begun to say years earlier,

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and with some unusual occurrence, theflash of light or smoke or something which
caused me the heel like something outof the order had occurred. There On
a railroad overpass adjacent to the GrassyKnoll stood a number of train workers whose
testimony confirmed Bowers' observations. Well,we all three seen or seen about the

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same thing at the time. Ididn't know what it was, but it
sounded like a land firecracker or agunshot, and it sounded like it came
from the left and in front ofus, towards the wooden fence. And
there was a puff of smoke thatcame underneath the trees. Is there any
doubt in your mind that that shotcame from behind? They had no doubt

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in my mind. The Warrant Commissionconcluded that Lee Harvey Oswald fired three shots
at the President, all originating fromthe sixth floor of the Texas school Book
Depository. But Robert Croden, coauthor of the best seller High Treason and
photographic consultant to the House Assassinations Committee, is one of many who disagree.

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We have the ear witnesses, wehave the medical evidence. It's all consistent.
Every bit of evidence in every fieldshows that at least two shots came
from the right front, from thearea of the stock ape sence. Four
months after this interview was filmed,Lee Bauer's died or was killed in broad
daylight on this remote Texas highway.Lee Bowers was heading west here on Highway

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sixty seven, heading from Midlothian downto Cleburne and according to an ayetness,
he was driven off the road bya black car go him into this bridge
abutment. He didn't die immediately.He held on for four hours, and
during that time he was talking tothe ambulance people and told them that he
felt he had been drugged when hestopped for coffee back there a few miles

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in Midlothian. But why would LeeBowers have been killed when it seemed that
he had already told all he knew. Walter Rochelle was a friend of Lee's
and of his late brother, MontyRochelle says Lee Bowers was afraid to tell
all he witnessed during the assassination.Rochelle told the explosive story to now investigate
A reporter Maury Terry, in anexclusive interview in Gilley Plaza, he said

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he saw a car pull up,two men get out of the car,
but they were carrying what peared tobe rifles. He said that one gunman
apparently position himself either on their caror on a car. The other one
I don't recall where he said hewas. He said he saw both men

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fire shots. He could tell bythe smoke that puffs of smoker came from
the writers. You're saying that LeeBowers told you that he saw both men
fire. Yes, he did.Bowers also told his minister that he had
seen more than he told publicly.In addition, legendary Texas journalist Ben Jones
Junior, one of the first tochallenge the official version of the assassination,

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says he also heard the complete Bowersstory, and he is the man who
said he saw gunman firing at thepresident from their hidden positions. He didn't
see all of them, but hesaw two of them that were firing as
the President. Later, another witnesswho wasn't questioned by the Warrant Commission,

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a deaf mute named Ed Hoffman,said he too observed two men behind the
and saw at least one shot fired. Further acoustics tests conducted by the House
Assassinations Committee determined that at least oneshot was almost certainly fired from the knoll.
So why was Bowers so afraid totell the full story? Walter Rochelle
provides a possible answer. He haddisappeared for about two days, one night,

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I know for sure, which wasvery uncharacteristic of him. And when
he came back, one of hisfingers was missing on one of his hands.
So Lee gave Moni some excuse forwhat had happened, which Money didn't
accept. So he called the localhospitals, the clinics, and some doctor's
offices, and there was no recordof anyone, certainly not Lee, going

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in and having that taken care of. And shortly after this alleged disappearance and
mysterious naming, Lee Bowers died inthat suspicious automobile rack. At the time
I was in Monny's office. Hewas quite upset because the insurance company had
refused to pay the claim. Ican't recall too vividly, but I believed
that Ronnie felt that the insurance companydid not believe that his death was accidental.

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If Lee Bar's death was not accidental, what was it? Joining me
now, Craig Rivera, what wasWe don't really know because the death certificate
is missing. What about the officialautopsy? There's no autopsy either, So
if he didn't die by accident,then somebody kill this guy. It could
very well be. And there's alsosome more evidence that backs up what Lee

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Bauers told Walter Rochelle, I meanabout the gunman from the Grassy Knoles that's
right. Free railroad workers who alsosaw a puff of smoke and heard what
they thought were gunshots ran down tothe area the wooden fence behind the grassy
knoll, and they found cigarette buttson the ground, footprints in the mud,
and also mud on the bumper ofa car, And that indicates that

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somebody could have stood up on thatcar overlooking the grassy knoll, that fence
overlooking it up right, Okay,thanks. There are definitely a lot of
strange deaths connected to the Kennedy assays, nation witnesses, researchers, people that
were connected to people that were connectedto the assassination, very strange. Indeed,

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we have a few short minutes leftand I want to before we run
out of time, I want toplay one more clip before the half hour
break comes up. And on theother side of the break, coming back.
As I said, and I willgo a little bit further into detail
in a second, I will notbe speaking at all next segment. Next
segment, you are going to behearing from Jim Garrison, the district attorney

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who took Clay Shaw to trial overthe assassination of President Kennedy. You know
Jim Garrison's been dead for a whilenow, but I have audio of when
he was on NBC and I willexplain that in a little bit more detail

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before I play the clip. Butanyway, I want to get into another
story really quick before we run outof time, and that is the story
of Rose Share Me, because again, it destroys the narrative that Oswald was
a lone gunman. It shows,without a shadow of a doubt, that
there was a conspiracy to kill PresidentKennedy. So here we go. This
is the story of Rose Share Me. Through the credit sequence of Oliver Stones

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JFK. We get in segments thestory of a woman who's thrown out of
a car, abandoned, ends upin a hospital and warns the people in
attendance that President Kennedy is about tobe killed in Dallas. She says that
these are a serious man and somebodyhas to do something. What not very
many viewers realize is that this storywas absolutely true and was investigated by Jim

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Garrison the househod Out Committee on Assassinations, And now the Review Board has released
more documents on this remarkable story ofthis woman who three days in advance predicted
that President Kennedy would be killed inDallas on November the twentieth, nineteen sixty
three. Louise Guillery, a hospitaldirector at Mussa General Hospital, called State

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Trooper Francis Fuget, who worked innarcotics detail. She told him that they
had a patient at the hospital whowas under the influence. Fruge went over
and found a woman named Rose Chearamiin the waiting room outside the emergency road.
Musso was a private hospital, soFruge had to arrange to have her
transferred and also to receive a sedative. On the way to the State Hospital
at Jackson, Louisiana, roe Cheremibegan to relate her remarkable story. She

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was in round from Florida to Dallasas part of a drug deal with two
other men who were Cubans. RoeJeamy was to function as a courier of
funds for heroin, which was tobe dropped off to her by a seaman
coming into the port of Galveston.From there, the three were to proceed
to Mexico at a cd bar inroute called the Silver Slipper Lounge. An

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argument ensued and Rose was roughly abandonedby her friends, who threw her out.
Then, while hitching a ride,she was hit by a car driven
by a man named Frank Odem.Odam had delivered her to Musa hospital,
where she Rose told Fruge that inDallas, the men had planned to kill
Kennedy. According to several witnesses atthe hospital on November twenty second, Rose

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again predict the assassination before it happened. She also told the doctor there that
she knew that both Ruby and Oswaldhad known each other, and she had
seen them together at Ruby's club.Truge later also confirmed that she had worked
for Jack Ruby. Another employee atthe hospital and in turn named Wayne Owen,

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told his local newspaper in Wisconsin thathe and other interns were told of
the plot in advanced the assassination.He said that they even heard that one
of the men involved was Jack Rubinstein, which was Jack Ruby's real name.
Rose also told of that association withRuby to doctor Victor Wiss at Jackson Hospital.
After the assassination, Fruge told theHouse Let Committee that he demanded to

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see roch Scherem again to interview her. She told him that her two companions
actually seemed to be part of theconspiracy rather than just aware of it.
Fruge then had her story about thedrug deal checked out by both local and
federal authorities. Fruge then had hissuperior, Colonel Morgan, call up Captain
Wilfrits of the Dallas Belief to offerRose as a witness to his investigation.

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Morgan told Fruge after the call thatFritz was not interested, so a potentially
explosive witness was now turned away innineteen sixty three. In nineteen sixty seven,
Jim Garrison received several leads about Roeshere Me from people related to the
Jackson Hospital, which is about threehours north of New Orleans. This included
a friend of doctor Victor Weiss,a man named A. H. Magruder.

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Garrison tracked down Frueje, deputized him, and then asked him to find
share Me. Fruge found out thatshe had died in a car accident in
nineteen sixty five. Fuge told theHouse Look Committee in the next decade that
he then found the Silver Slipper Loungewhere Rose had become separated from her two
friends. In nineteen sixty three,he found the bartender in attendance the night

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Rose had walked in. The man'sname was mac Manuel. Fuge displayed the
manual several photos of suspects from theGarrison investigation. Manuel picked out the two
men he had seen with Rose shareMe that night. This is significant because,
as we now know, both Cubanswere at Guy Banister's office in New
Orleans and they both knew David Ferryand Clay Sew. So now, according

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to this verified sharem story, wehave a connection between New Orleans and Texas
just days prior to the murder ofPresident Kennedy. And that, ladies and
gentlemen, is why I felt itimportant for you all to hear the story
of Rose share Me coming up.We got the break in a few short
minutes, and I want to explainwhat's going to happen when we come back
on the other side. I'm notgoing to bring it back in, Okay,

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I'm not gonna you bring it infrom break and say lead and gentlemen,
we're back, blah blah blah forlack of time. Because of the
length of the clip. I'm goingto let it pick up right where the
clip starts coming back in from break, and it's going to go right into
the end of the broadcast right prettymuch about halfway through the outro, because
that's the full length of the broadcast, but I think it's imperative that you

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all hear it. The broadcast isthat of District Attorney Jim Garrison. It's
from July fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven. It's in response to their June nineteenth,
nineteen sixty seven, hour long quoteanalysis of New Orleans District Attorney Jim

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Garrison's investigation titled the JFK Conspiracy TheCase of Jim Garrison. Now, I
don't have to rehash the whole case, but he was focusing on three main
characters Garrison's investigation, David Ferry,Guy Banister, and Clay Shaw. And

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it was big news, and predictably, the news media swung into attack mode
to defend their masters, and nonewas more vicious or had more resources at
their disposal at the time than NBC. Now, I want to read you
something from a recently released FBI memo. A local FBI agent reported that Richard

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Townley w DSU TV New Orleans remarkedto a special agent of the New Orleans
office last evening that he had receivedinstructions from NBC New York to prepare a
one hour TV special on Jim Garrisonwith the instruction quote shoot him down,

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end quote. After the program aired, Garrison petitioned the SEC, who agreed
that the program was biased and grantedGarrison a third minute rebuttal to air on
July fifteenth at seven thirty PM,hardly equal time considering they had an hour
to attack him, he only hada half hour to respond. Nevertheless,

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the NBC program aided greatly in discreditingthe DA's office, and it potentially contaminated
Clay Shaw's jury pool. So theyou know, the mission was done,
and they still do this kind ofthing to this very day, fifty years
later, they still do this typeof chicanery. So coming back in on

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the other side, what I'm gonnado is I'm gonna let Jim Garrison pick
it up, and for the lasthalf hour you're gonna hear from District Attorney
Jim Garrison and his response from Julyfifteenth, nineteen sixty seven, in full,
uninterrupted. Anyway, we're running upto the break, so stay tuned,

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ladies and gentlemen. We come backon the other side. We'll be
picking it up with former New OrleansDistrict Attorney Jim Garrison from July fifteenth,
nineteen sixty seven. I want tothank you all for tuning in tonight,
by the way, because I haveto say goodbye to you all now because
he won't be hearing from me thefinal segment. So I want to say
thank you all for tuning in andlistening. Make sure you stay tuned for

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the next half hour and listen towhat District Attorney Jim Garrison had to say
all the way back in nineteen sixtyseven. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
I love you all, and I'llsee you all again tomorrow night.
Like I said, make sure youstay tuned on the other side of the
break for District Attorney Jim Garrison.The following time period has been made available

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to District Attorney Jim Garrison the NewOrleans to reply to an NBC News program
broadcast on June nineteenth. In thatprogram, NBC News examined some of the
methods is by mister Garrison in hisinvestigation of what he charged was a puracy
to assassinate President Kennedy. Except forthe opening and closing announcements, this program
has been prepared under mister Garrison's soulsupervision. Mister Garrison, Tonight, I'm

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going to talk to you about truthand about fairy tales, about justice,
and about injustice. In the monthsto follow, you are going to learn
that many of the things which someof the major news agencies have been telling
you are untrue. You're going tolearn that, although you are citizens of
the United States, information concerning thecause of the death of your president has

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been withheld from you. In themonths to come, you will learn,
to your own satisfaction that President Kennedywas not killed by a lone assassin.
You will learn that there has been, and continues to be a considered an
effort to keep you from learning thesefacts. And you will learn. I
assure you that what I have beentrying to tell you, and what I'm

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telling you tonight, is true.As children, we become accustomed to hearing
fairy tales. They're always pleasant stories, and they're comforting to hear because good
always triumphs over evil. At leastthis is the way it is in fairy
tale. Fairy tales are not dangerousfor our children, and are probably even

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good for them up to a point. However, in the real world,
in which you and I must live. Fairy Tales are dangerous. They're dangerous
because they're untrue. Anything which isuntrue is dangerous, and it is all
the more dangerous when the fairy talebecomes accepted as reality simply because it has

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an official seal of approval, orbecause honorable men announced that you must believe
it, or because powerful elements ofthe press tell you that the fairy tale
is true. The conclusion of theWarren report that President Kennedy was killed by
a lone assassin is a fairy tale. This does not mean that the men

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on the Warrant Commission were aware atthe time that their conclusion was totally untrue,
nor does it mean necessarily that thesemen had any sinister motives. It
does mean that the conclusion that noconspiracy existed and that Lee Oswald was a
lone assassin is a fiction and amyth, and that it should be brought

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to an end. The people ofthis country don't have to be protected from
the truth. This country was notbuilt on the idea that a handful of
nobles, whether located in our federalagencies in Washington, DC or in the
news agencies in New York, todecide what was good for the people to

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know and what they should not know. This is a totalitarian concept which presumes
that the leaders of our federal governmentand the men in control of the powerful
press media constitute a special elite which, by virtue of their nobility and their
brilliance, empower them to think forthe people. Personally, I would rather

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put my confidence in the common senseof the people of this country. The
truth about the assassination of the presidenthas been concealed from you long enough.
Those forces which are fighting so hardtoday to tell you that they have examined
the Warren reports and that everything isfine, and that our investigation has uncovered

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nothing, are not merely going tolose this fight. They have already lost
it. Now, let me tellyou why President Kennedy was murdered and how
he was murdered. I also wantto give you a few examples which will
show you how the conclusion reach forthe War and Commission is totally impossible.
President Kennedy was assassinated by men whosought to obtain a radical change in our

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foreign policy, particularly with regard toCuba. You recall that under President Kennedy,
the Cold War began to thaw,and there were new signs of an
effort on the part of the SovietUnion and ourselves understand each other. On
the map, this appears to bemerely a large island off the coast of
Floor, but for many men itmeant a good deal more than this.

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In nineteen sixty three, a greatvariety of interests existed which not only desired
An Americans supported invasion of Casto's Cuba, but took it for granted that it
was inevitable. In the minds ofmany men, this island represented a tremendous
emotional landmark because they had steered theircourses caught it for so long and with

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such intensity. In a fall ofnineteen sixty two, the Cuban Missile Crisis
occurred. It was followed by apronounced new attitude towards Cuba on the part
of the United States. Cuba afterthis was no longer regarded as an enemy
and was no longer regarded as fairgame for those men who, for one

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reason or another, focused their attentionon this island. The new signs of
understanding between Russia and the United Statescontinued to develop. In June of nineteen
sixty three, President Kennedy, addressingstudents at the American University in Washington,
told them we breathe the same airas the Russians. He said, we

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should try to live together in peaceon this earth. But at this point
some individuals transferred their hostile attention fromFidel Castro to John F. Kennedy.
They planned the President's assassination, andthey planned it well. The evidence indicates
that he was shot at from twodifferent directions in the rear and also from

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the right front. We know thatshooting was coming from two separate directions in
the rear because as the President andGovernor Connolly were hit in the back with
a slit second of each other,and this necessarily had to happen with two
bullets coming from two different rifles.We know that the President was being shot

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at from the Grassynal area on theright front because most of the people in
Dearly Plaza heard the shots coming fromthere, and because at least one of
the President's wounds was an entry woundfrom the front, and because men were
seen running from the Grassy Knoll areaimmediately after. That's why the idea of
Lee Harvey Oswald is the loan assassinof the President is a fairy tale and

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should be brought to an end ifyou, the people of the United States,
were learned to proove that the presidentwas assassinated by men who were once
connected with a central intelligence agency.Of course, this might reflect on the
dignity of the CIA, But Ihappen to believe that our form of government

(01:39:01):
is strong enough to survive the truth. I believe that you are entitled of
the truth about how your president wasshut down in the streets and how it
was done. Instead, some ofthe most powerful news agencies we have in
our country have worked hard to convinceyou that everything is all right. They

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did not tell you that Lee HarveyOswell's fingerprints were not found on the gun
which was supposed to kill the president. And they did not tell you that
nitrate tests exonerated Lee Oswell from theactual shooting by showing that he had not
fired a rifle that day. Andthey did not tell you that it was
virtually impossible for Oswell to have takenhis fingerprints off the gun, hidden the

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gun, and gone down four flightsof stairs by the time he was seen
on the second floor. Above all, they did not tell you of the
overwhelming eyewitness testimony that shots were comingfrom behind the stone wall, on the
grass and novels. In a choicebetween official dignity and the truth, dignity

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was given priority, and so youhave not received the full truth. This
is why there continued to be hundredsof documents still hidden from your eyes and
classified as secret, and some ofthem bear such titles as Lee Harvey Oswell's
Accessibility to Information about the U two, the Central Intelligence Agency's docta on Lee

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Harvey Oswald, and a CIA fileon Jack Ruby. You have not been
told that Lee Osle was in theemployee of the United States Intelligence Agency,
But this was the case, andso I am telligence. While this young,
uneducated man had learned to speak Risianeven before he left the Marines,

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and there's only one way he couldhave learned that Oswald had a higher security
rating than his in his marine unitsduring twelve hours of questioning. To give
you another example, twelve hours ofquestioning after the assassination, there is no
transcript of Oswell's statements available for youto look at. Now, it doesn't

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matter where you live. If somebodyin your town steals a nineteen twenty eight
hutmobile what he says is written downwhen he's questioned. However, when the
man who is just who has justkilled the president of the United States is
questioned for twelve hours, no transcriptis available. There's nothing for you to

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look at and believe it or not. One of the explanations given is that
the room was too small to includea stenographer. And here's something else.
This case has more accidental fires,more burning of paper than any murder case
in history. For example, whenOswald was questioned by a federal agent in

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August of nineteen sixty three, thenotes of the interview were later burned.
You cannot see the notes made byCommander Humes concerning the President's autop because he
burned them too. One of thequestioners of Lee Harvey Oswald during the twelve
hour session burned his notes. Andsimilarly, when the Warren Commission contacted the

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State Department and said, with regardto Exhibit nine forty eight, we noticed
that a one page message from theCIA containing secret information is supposed to be
attached to this smile, and it'smissing. Would you please furnish us with
a copy of this missing secret document. The answer given to the Warren Commission
was that the secret message about Oswaldfrom the CIA was accidentally destroyed while being

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thermoffects. This spontaneous combustion incidentally occurredthe day after the president's assassination. I'm
not even going to bother dignify thefoolishness which Newsweek, MBC in some of
the other news agencies have tried tomake you believe about my office. I've

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been District Attorney of New Orleans formore than five years, and we have
never had a single case averse becauseof improper methods on the part of our
staff. Nor do we rush tojudgment on half take evidence. And the
proof of that is the fact thatin more than five years, not one

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defendant has walked out of the courtroomin a murder case an acquittal, nor
have we lost a major case infive years. Then what is their game?
Their game is to pool you.These people want the investigation stopped.
They don't want to trial at all. Please believe me, they don't think

(01:44:02):
we're wrong in our investigation. Obviously, if our investigation was as haywire as
they would like to have you think, then you would not see such a
coordinated barrage coming from the news centersin the East. Why are they so
concerned. Why is it that theycannot wait until the trial comes in order

(01:44:25):
to learn what the facts are?Why are they so anxious to have their
own trials? They know very wellthat the witnesses they're presenting to you have
not been testifying on the roads,that they're not being cross examined as they
would be at a trial, andthat the opportunities for a timely rebuttal by

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the State of Louisiana which would existat the trial, have not been provided
in their unthrue presentation. They knowthis. In my considered judgment, there's
been an efforts to prejudice in advancethe potential jurors in the Frialless case.
As a matter of fact, theNational Broadcasting Company has already had the trial,

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the defendant was found innocent and thedistrict attorney was convicted. They announced
across the nation that my methods wereimpoppers, but as their stories one by
one turned out to be false,they did not reveal this to you,
but simply search hopefully in the Newarea. For example, Newsweek magazine had

(01:45:33):
a feature article saying that my officeattempted to bribe a man named Bobo.
It later turned out that his storyand their article was totally untrue, and
the tape which Newsweek described had beenaltered. The police investigators in my office
were found innocent of any wrongdoing ina serious investigation conducted by the police department.

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However, Newsweek has made virtually nomention of that. Similarly, in
its recent effort to make you thinkthat my methods are improper, NBC announced
Coast to Coast that it had locatedthe real play Bird tran that an NBC
man had talked to him. Thismade every newspaper in the country, and

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it inferred once again that in additionto using terrible methods, we were off
on a wild goose tape. Now, when it turned out that this was
a total fabrication and the man whomNBC identified as the real play Bird fran
hotly denied ever using the name,there was only to coast silence from NBC.

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NBC presented a professional burglar whom myoffice had just recently convicted, and
allowed him to make a plainly falsepresentation that we had tried to get him
to climb into the defendant's apartment andplant evidence there. The inferant, of
course, was that this particular dependentwas too lofty a character to participate in

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minor farious schemes. However, recently, when we called him before the New
Orleans Grand Jury so that he couldtell all about our new venture into the
burglary business, he took the fiftha members when asked if this statement on
NBC was true. Once again,this was followed by loud silence from coast

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to coast on NBC. As amatter of fact, the Warrant Commission's inquiry
and the assassination started off with acompletely unacceptable philosophy for democracy like ours.
One of its stated objectives was tocalm the fears of the people about a
conspiracy. But in our country,the government has no right to calm our

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fears anymore than has, for example, the right to excite our fears about
red China, or about floridation,or about birth control, or about anything.
There's no room in America or thoughtcontrol of any kind, no matter
how benevolent they are. Defective personally, I don't want to be calm about

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the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I don't want to be calm about
the presidents of my country being shotdown on the streets. And I don't
want to be calm about the factthat, for reasons of public policy,
or national security, or any otherphony reason, the true facts have been
withheld from the people of this country. If the day has come when it

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is possible to shoot our president downbecause some men disagree with his foreign policy,
and the day has come that themoment his heart stops beating, other
considerations take over, which concealed thetotal truth from the citizens of the of
state, then the day has comewhen we have ceased to be a demoscracist.

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I cannot believe that this is so. That the time is come in
America rousing from their stupor, onlywhen they have learned that a district attorney

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was violating all the rules of etiquetteand digging up the truth. They're telling
you that black is white. Whenthey tell you there is no evidence of
a conspiracy, they have to knowwell the significance of the continued concealment of
X rays and autopsic pictures, which, if revealed to you, would show

(01:49:56):
that the president was hit by arifle fire from more than wonder And they
have to know well of the hundredsof documents which remains classified secrets and concealed
from your view. And they're makingwhite blacks when they repeatedly state that my
office is using proper methods. Theyhave to know that no DA's office in

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the United States would dream of operatingin the way they suggest. They have
to know that for years I havebeen a strong defender of the rights of
individuals. They have to know allof this. But they have lent themselves
to the all out effort to convinceyou that the matter has been looked into.

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And anyone who raises a question nowis irresponsible or troublemaker or an enemy
of the people. What's that yousay that you are an American citizen and
you want to see the autopsy xrays, and you want to see these
hundreds of documents that have been withhealth from your view, and you want

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to know why these vital notes alwaysended up being burned? What's the matter
with you? Can't you take theword of these honorable men who've looked into
it for you. Let me justgive you one example that shows you how
impossible the single assassination theory is,which shows you the enormity of the fairy

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tale which you're supposed to believe in. Now, this is the Warren Commission's
own diagram of the route of thebullet through Governor Conway. The bullet had
to take this route in order tocause the injuries which he received. Now,
the important thing to keep in mindis that the Warren Commission itself concedes

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that if this same bullet was notthe one which also went through President Kennedy,
then there had to be someone elsefiring. And the reason for that,
just to put it very simply,is that the Pruder films have shown
that all the firing occurred in sixseconds, and yet there were a total
of eight wounds. Therefore, thisone bullet has to cause seven wounds because

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one missed one was the fatal shothitting the president. So, by the
Warren Commission's owner mission, prior tohitting the governor, this bullet had to
go through President Kennedy, who's sittingback here. Now you notice that the
Warren Commission did not attempt to includePresident Kennedy in the diagram. They could
not because the total impossibility of thisbullet having gone to the President also would

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be too obvious. In other words, by the evidence of the Warren Commission
itself, it is obvious that therewas other shooting going on in Dally Plaza.
Consequently, the Warren Commission has officiallyconcluded that before this bullet came down

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from the sky, as it hadto to hit Governor Connolly and all those
different places, it entered President Kennedy'sbody from the rear came out of his
neck. I might add that theWarren Commission did not try to include the
President's picture, because that would haveshown that the course of the magic bullet
would have had to go on upin the air and come down again in

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order to end up getting the Governor. It is by selecting these little portions
of each incident and by excluding otherportions that the fairy tale is presented to
you. However, if they hadto show in one diagram the bullet entering
the President and then continuing through GovernorConnolly, you would be able to see

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the total impossibility of this bullet causingseven loans. Now, this is just
one of many examples which showed thatthe Warren Commission's conclusion is completely impossible.
Bullet three ninety nine is another example. The fact that the cartridge is in

(01:54:00):
the tipic case do not manage matchat all the bullets and tip its body
one after the other. If Ihad the total hour to reply, which
NBC used to try and to creditmy office, I would be able to
go into more matters. But let'ssum it up by saying that it is
completely impossible to uphold the single assassin'stheory if you look at it seriously.

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Anyone who has done now award knowsthat the single assassin theory is totally impossible
in the final analysis. What hasbeen done by the Warrant Commission and its
investigations is to take this series ofimplausibilities and to attempt to prove to you
that each one of them is atleast mathematically possible. Each one of them

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is mathematically possible, but not probable. However, it is not mathematically possible
for all of these series and impossibilitiesto have occurred. And this is what
they asked. Please. It's verylike telling you that it is mathematically possible,
for example, for an elephant tohang from a cliff with his tail

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tied to a daisy. Of coursethis is implausible. But what do they
do. They produce an expert whosays, yes, I have made a
study of the situation, and thisis not a full grown elephant, and
this is a particularly tough kind ofdaisy, and therefore it was mathematically possible.

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Now the official truth, as aresult of such expert testimony, as
a result of the creation of aseries of mathematical possibilities, is now no
longer what actually happened in Dallas,but what has been officially approved. Well,

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I say that the matter is notclose. Not in this country.
I say that the day has notyet arrived when the only reality is power
and the ideals on which our countrywas built are merely words printed on paper.
I believe that those news agencies whichhave sought to imply that I would

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use in proper methods to gain somesort of fictional political advantage, have simply
revealed their own cynicism. I believethat, in this conflict between truth and
power, and this is exactly whatit is all about, that power cannot
possibly smash truth out of existence.The people in this country will not let

(01:56:45):
that happen. If we still livein the same country in which we were
born. And I don't think it'schanged that much. If this is still
the country in which, in thewords of our budge of Allegiance, there
exists liberty and justice for all,then this attempt to conceal the full truth

(01:57:06):
from you in the end has tobe a failure. In this case,
I've learned more about the human racethan I really wanted to know. And
I've learned more about some of ourgovernment agencies than I really wanted to know.

(01:57:26):
And I've learned more about some ofour press agencies than I cared to
know. But I am still nwiveenough to believe that in America, the
people make the decisions, not ahandful of men in the Washington and New
York areas. And I believe thatthe people of America want to know the

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entire troop about how their president wasshot down in the streets of Dallas.
And I want to assure you thatas long as I am alive, no
one is going to stop me fromsaying that you obtained the full truth and
nothing less than the full truth,and no fairy tales.

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