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So…  Anticipation or anxiety? Depends on the shoes you wear to the dance. 💃🏽🟣   In this whimsical, wise finale, James gives us a front-row seat to the emotional seesaw of waiting—where one side says “what if” and the other says “let’s go!” From feathered metaphors (yes, again) to bike ramps, bravery, and birds that just won’t quit, we explore the thin line between dread and dream.   It’s about choosing to show up, even with shaky wings. It’s about trusting that what’s ahead could be gorgeous—not grim. Violet reminds us that worry is a pigeon, but anticipation? She’s a peacock.  
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, friends, So happy to have you here with me
today at Radical Joy. If you've been here before, welcome back.
If this is your first time with me, well I'm
glad you're here. Each week, i'm here with you talking
to myself about things that weigh on my mind and heart,
hoping if you're dealing with something similar, we can adjust
our perspectives as you listen. Hey, if you're struggling with

(00:32):
something that needs immediate attention, please know that help is available.
Just disle nine eight eight nationwide in the US to
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us here at CLW Studios believe that mental health is
a vital part of our well being. The more people
I meet and the more places I go, the more

(00:52):
I realize how important it is to make people aware
of the fact that there is no shame in enjoying
the parts of our lives that are incredible. It's time
for some Radical Joy, and this week, the three fingers
pointing back at me are for the color violet, represented
in this episode by Anticipation and Worry, the final part

(01:13):
of a seven part series here on Radical Joy for
Pride Month. Anticipation and Worry honest to goodness, these two
things feel so unbelievably similar. I think the main difference
in these two ideas, if we could even call them
too honest to goodness, these are so so similar. It

(01:37):
is perspective and mindset. That's all I can figure for it.
Anticipation has a connotation of looking forward, excited to see,
come to fruition, etc. Worry to me seems like a
very very very similar feeling, though in a bit of

(01:57):
an opposite direction. It feels as though it is dreading,
it's putting a weight on something, it is leaving the
door open for an unwelcome visitor. And it's just such
an interesting concept to try to explore because I think
both of them have such a similar life in your

(02:23):
mind and heart and just all together everything. If you
weren't really cautious, it would be difficult to figure out
which was which. There's this wonderful saying, and I've used
it a thousand times. If I've said at once, it's
never borrowed trouble because God knows that Heifer is gonna

(02:44):
find you soon enough without you looking for that second
half is mine? Ever, bit for sure, I think you'all
all know that It's just one of those things where
I think anticipation is one of those things where you
get excited about something and I think you hold a
bit more of an open expectation on the situation. I
am excited for this because part of it is unknown,

(03:07):
and that is also adding to the excitement of whatever
is coming. Huzzah. Let's do this. Let's put ourselves in
the best position possible so that whatever is coming, not
only are we ready, we are we have more than
enough room to welcome all that comes with it. Fantastic.

(03:28):
When we think of a worry, I think the expectations
are through the roof. I think that we've already imagined
a worst case scenario, and we just continue to build
on it. We see it like, oh my gosh, and
then this, and then this and then this, and it
continues to grow and add mass and make this enormous

(03:48):
shadow which you can never escape and all these other
things that it just oh my god. And the next
thing you know, it's gone from Mole Hill to Everest
and you're like, what even happen to you right now?
And I can't help feeling whenever you open the door
for worry, it never enters by itself. It always brings friends, cousins,

(04:10):
everybody else who wants to eat at your table. And
there's part of you that's a little concerned that there's
just not enough to go around, which in her nature,
that is exactly what she's doing. Add more worry to
an already existing pile, Make it bigger, make it heavier,
make it more insurmountable, make it intimidating. And the older

(04:35):
I get and the less stupid I become, the more
I realize, I'm like, Okay, worry, Yes, honestly, it has
its place. It definitely has a use. I think a
lot of people rely on worry for their own safety,
and I get that. I want to make sure I
pay homage an honor to it. It's like, Okay, I
see it, I hear it. And what I want to

(04:56):
say is we can hold those safeties, those p cautions
in mind and not worry about them. We can take
as many precautions as we can, and then we just
have to let the chips fall where they may. Well.
That sounds incredibly irresponsible, No it doesn't. What it sounds
is we have taken every sensible precaution to make sure

(05:17):
that whatever is coming doesn't affect us as adversely as
perhaps we are concerned about and the rest of the
time we just we do what we can to do,
and that's it. I often tell people it's like, Okay,
I love my parents. I do, and I know that
now that I'm just a little bit older that often,
whenever I hear a voice of fear or worry in

(05:40):
my head or it kind of plucks at my heart strings,
I often equate that with my mother. Not that she
ever wanted to sow seeds of fear in my heart
or my life. She wanted more than anything to protect me.
She wanted to keep me safe. She knew I was
a risk taker, she knew there was a bowl road ahead,

(06:01):
and all she ever wanted to do is make sure
that the path forward was as safe as she could
make it. As I continue to grow and move forward
in this world, whenever I think of something that is
perhaps beyond reasonable for preparing for a potentially risky situation,
and it is operating from more a position of fear

(06:23):
than caution, I often think of her teaching in that respect.
I don't mean that disrespectfully. I mean that in the
way that I have come to realize that, and I
have to make sure that what I'm doing is using
caution and not fear. Fear grabs us, it pulls at
the hem of our garment. It drags behind, and it

(06:44):
comes up with irrational reasons not to do the big, fantastic,
wonderful thing, and that doesn't help us. It doesn't help us.
It can absolutely insulate us from a lot of things
in the world, including a metric ton of amazing, in
an effort to protect us as effectively as possible from

(07:08):
literally everything. So what I would like to say is,
let's move forward in caution and still have a lot
of joy filling the rest of the vessel. I think
a natural sense of curiosity and a general inquisitive nature
when looking at a new situation or a potentially hazardous

(07:30):
situation serves us far far better than fear. Fear is
one of those things if we remember done. I wish
I could remember the author's name right now. I'm so
sorry that I can't. Fear is the mind killer. When
we latch onto fear instead of caution mixed with joy.

(07:51):
I think what that does is it continues to paralyze
our thinking parts, and it continues to have us cower
in a corner, making sure that we don't have to
worry about getting hurt because we have limited our experiences
in a significant way, instead of looking at a brand
new opportunity with an enormous sense of anticipation, excitement again,

(08:18):
joy that we get the opportunity to try this new
experience and we walk through it with strength and just
as carefully as we can, but not so timidly that
we miss the mark. It's so, so so important to
make sure that worry is as seldom used or employed

(08:42):
as we can possibly do. And whenever we start to
feel that creep in because it has a very different flavor,
a very different temperature and color, what I want us
to do is instead try to find a way to
warm it and flush it with a different hue so
that it becomes anticipation. And I am excited about this.
It is a new situation, one that does propose risks,

(09:06):
and there are hazards involved to which I will apply
as much caution as I possibly can, and then I
will do the thing. I will one get on board
this whole business and truck on through this sucker. Fear
is not going to kill my mind or paralyze me.
I will continue on my adventure because that is why

(09:31):
I was put on this world. Delicious, that's what I want,
not just for me, I want it for all of us.
And it can be daunting. Whoa, it can be challenging.
You can get upon something you just get freaked out. Okay,
y'all know I love an anecdote. I much prefer an
example to an idea or an abstract. So let's do this.

(09:52):
My bicycle. I'm riding this thing, not on my feet's
my little grandma bike. And if I get going too quickly,
I freeze, I start to hunker down. I can feel
my joints stiffened. I can feel my shoulders in my ears.
And that is when I make mistakes and errors and

(10:12):
have serious or not so serious accidents. Close to my home,
there's a ramp that goes down and then leads around
the corner. You have to do a really sharp UWI
to get back into the main little pathway that leads
to my home. At the top and the bottom of
this ramp, it's a pretty good it's pretty steep, she's

(10:34):
pretty good, pretty good angle. There are bollards, there are
concrete ballards to make sure and there are gates, so
you can't get a lot of speed going into or
coming out of the ramp from either direction. You have
to be very cautious. Well. I occasionally will try to
take those on my bicycle as a rider and not

(10:56):
walking beside it. And when I do it is maybe
one out of twenty six tries that I actually made
make it without clanging my basket into a bollerd or
a gate. Why because I tense up. I freak out
because of so many other times that I've tried this
and failed horribly. Now I've preset myself to fear. And

(11:22):
not only is my mind kilt, the rest of me
joins in because if your mind isn't working properly, clearly,
you don't have the same kind of control over your
muscles and reflex as you would is if it were
pliable and comfortable and entering into this situation with caution
and joy and so. And then sometimes I make it

(11:47):
through the first I'm like, oh yeah, and then I
get a little saucy, and then by the time I
get to the bottom of the ramp, clung dad I
did it again, And that It's just part of the gig,
and the thing is too did it hurt? Yeah, honestly
it did. It did not feel good at all. I
have honestly suffered worse injury on that dagone bicycle in

(12:10):
the last what five six months than I have pretty
much everything else in my life up to this point
in the last okay, in the last like ten fifteen years.
I don't love it, course not. And how am I
supposed to avoid it? This is a part of my life.
This is thing. This is my main mode of transportation.
This and my OV card to get me on the

(12:31):
bus or the train. This is what I use to
get around. I got my feet. Sure, but you're gonna
cut your travel time by wow, what eighty percent if
you hop on metal two wheeled monster and just don't
get too cocky Bullard. Well, it can't help. But everybody
else looks so cool. Yeah, and they've been riding that
bicycle since they were knee high to a tea spoon.
Ease up, check your situation. How about you like a

(12:56):
survey to surroundings read the room, Bullard? Okay, yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, fair, that's fair. Good anticipation is one of
those things where I continue to look up. That's what
it is. It's not just forward, it's up, because not
only do I want to move forward, I want to
make sure that I continue to climb, that I aspire

(13:18):
and achieve. For worry, I often have this idea in
my heart and in my mind's eye that the person
that worries wrings hands and shrugs shoulders or slumps shoulders,
making themselves smaller, less noticeable, more easily hidden or overlooked.
Because for whatever reason, sometimes I think that fear is

(13:43):
like the Boogeyman. It's one of those things where people
hope that they can escape this personified idea of fear
by making themselves smaller or less noticeable, or perhaps not
quite so confident looking appearing. Maybe I don't know. Again,

(14:04):
we talk about these things, we just sort of like
roll them over in our minds. I trying to figure
out a way that we can stay in anticipation instead
of in a state of worry, because that's just it,
I think, especially the people with whom I surround myself,
I'm so fortunate to have people that set lofty goals

(14:24):
and often meet or overshoot them in the most incredible
ways possible. The best part I love is whenever they
do it without even noticing, or they overshoot. I've found
that for myself often not a brag. I'm only sharing
this because this experience happened to me, which means if
it can happen to me, it can literally happen to anybody.

(14:46):
All you have to do is commit and be consistent.
So much of life is just committing and consistency. Wowow
wow wow. And I continue to preach that to everyone,
you know, I with my work in social media. They're like, well,
how do you have such blah blah blah. It's like, honestly,
it comes down to being consistent, even if it is

(15:08):
you know, you maybe have ten pieces of content that
you put out on the innerwebs. If two or three
of those really resonate well with people, you're great, Okay,
but what about those other seven? Well, those other seven
are just to make sure that people don't forget who
you are. Gosh, the world is moving so fast you

(15:28):
have to continue to keep your place. And I think
that is very useful information whenever we start to talk
about things like this. I think that anticipation is also
a practice. I think if you continue to look for
the next thing, I appreciate what you've got ruminate in it.
Whenever you achieve it, absolutely be proud that you were

(15:52):
able to look at this thing, to be excited to
complete this thing, worked tirelessly to achieve thing did And
now you just get a minute to be like I
did that. Wow, exactly, congratulations you that was no small feat.
Well played. And then after we've gotten our fill and

(16:16):
just you know, reminded ourselves of just how cool we are,
it's time to start looking for the next thing. Because
everything moves, nothing stays the same. What was super cool
thirty years ago is now your square one in the
year of our Lord twenty twenty five. Don't get it twisted.
I think if anybody knows anything in this day and age,

(16:38):
that's it. The world is moving so quickly. I don't
want anybody to discount the good they put into the
world or the things they've done that they should be
wildly proud of and share with their nearest and dearest.
So you can all celebrate the awesome you've put into
the world. Please don't forget how quickly the rest of
the world moves on. My goodness, and honestly that hurts me.

(17:02):
It's one of those things. She's like, Gee, this was
a really big deal and in a week, you know,
it's just another thing that we throw into the sack. Great,
I did that in twenty twenty five. Hzah. Moving forward,
I know, gosh, it's diary, jes Louise. Yeah. And instead
of worrying about that situation, that's not what I'm gonna do.

(17:29):
I'm gonna leave that cooler emotion on the side for
as long as I possibly can, and I'm gonna I'm
gonna make it difficult for it to survive, honestly, because
my anticipation is gonna be so warm and so lush
and colorful, almost exotic in its what do you call
it plumage? Yes, Because for whatever reason, she's a bird,

(17:53):
my anticipation is a rare and delicious tropical bird. She's
got long tail feathers, and she is a majestic goddess
decending from the sky. Wow. I can't wait to see
how she's gonna land. Exactly. I wait, in baited breath
anticipation to see how gracefully she alights herself upon the

(18:14):
branch of yon exotic wood tree Versus that hobbled pigeon.
God love it, that mangy bird you see in the park.
Sometimes you've seen this animal. It's just pitiful looking. It's
just so sad because it keeps on trucking. They're almost immortal.

(18:36):
It feels like they are impossible to kill. And that
metaphor sticks and it because it is so mangy, because
it has lost so many feathers, and it's got that
sad little bald head, and it's got the ragged wingspan
and all these other kind of things. Once it takes off,
you're like, oh, my God, made it off the ground.

(18:59):
When it comes to land, there is worry for her safety.
Is she gonna be okay? Oh my gosh, look at that.
It looks like a cross between apossum and a pigeon.
How on earth is this creature going to land safely
without going ass over tea kettle? And will it hurt others?
What's it? Lights worry versus anticipation. One is clumsy, unwell,

(19:28):
hard to kill though not well. The other graceful, majestic,
regal even And it's not that you worry about it.
You see what's happening. You make a prediction about where

(19:49):
this glorious creature will land, and when it does, you're like, yep,
called it. I just knew that was gonna be what happened.
See the difference, do you feel fuel the difference? Where
isn't that poor little mangy, bald headed pigeon. God only
knows where I honestly, it's funny. The picture in my
mind is that thing comes in for a landing and

(20:11):
it actually turns into a feathered bowling ball, and it
goes crashing into a flock of its friends, and it's
just like and they are the pins, and it hurts
me for all of them. Ain't no reason for that
poor little bird to be so sick, and a reason
for all those other birds to have to deal with
those shenanigans every time she comes in for a landing.

(20:32):
That's the thing. Anticipation gives you the confidence to make
sure when you come in for your landing that you've
got it. Your feet are underneath you, you've got your physics,
you can feel the wind under your wings, you know
exactly where this is going. You've done this a thousand times.
This is going to be absolutely no different. You know
the limb where you're landing perfect. Let's get to business

(20:54):
versus not having faith in what you've been given knowing
that perhaps what you've got is a little underpar isn't healthy,
has not been cultivated to a point where it is
of use and strength to make sure you have a
soft and secure landing you've honestly, some of us have

(21:17):
pulled out our own feathers. That's the thing too, That's
what worry I'll do to you. I have along the
same lines. Whenever I get really stressed out, I chew
at my cuticles. Now. My fingernails right now look really
really good, which is surprising considering the amount of pressure
and stress I've been living with for the last however long.

(21:41):
I think a lot of us do that to our
own feathers, whereas I will bite a cuticle. I think
that goes along with our little pigeon metaphor. She pulls
out her own feathers. She's so stressed out, and she
worries so much that she actually works against her own
health out of nerves or fear, or any other number

(22:03):
of unusual reasons for doing something like that. The human
brain is so amazing. We figure out something that we want,
and then for whatever reason, this enormous fear fright kicks in,
and then we start making excuses, or we start fabricating
things that will stand in the way, or instead of

(22:26):
just doing the thing we know that will provide the outcome,
we try to find a way around it from the
opposite side of the planet. And I never understand that
sort of situation. I've seen it happen one hundred thousand times.
I've done it fifty thousand times. Personally, I know it.
I want to be in great shape. I also want
a sweet treat. Uh Okay, these two things are diametrically opposed.

(22:49):
You can have a sweet treat, a sweet treat singular
wants every couple of days. There ain't no reason for
you to be eating something sweet after every flipping meal
that you ingest bullard. Yeah, but I've been so good
have you have you? And honestly, it's not a punishment
if that's what I choose, it's what I choose. However,
it is in direct opposition to many of the goals

(23:12):
that I have set in my life, and I wanted
I'm gonna feel better if I don't eat that. It's
just trash. I mean, the nutrition value of something like
that is very, very low. All that is is a
it is a self soother whenever I'm feeling stressed out
or whatever it is. Literally it's it's sugar water in
the cage of the lab rat. I'm just like there,

(23:32):
it is great, super so that put a band eid
on it, or I just dig deeper into whatever else
in anticipation of looking the way I want to look,
or lifting the way I want to lift, or wearing
something that I want to wear. And I would feel
more confident if I was at a certain level of
fitness or whatever. Great like literally all these things and

(23:56):
everyone's I think everyone's reason or my motivation is going
to be very different. And I love that we can't
carbon copy one another, Like something that's wildly important to
me could not be any less important to others. Wonderful good.
I love that. Honestly, that makes me feel much much

(24:16):
better because if everyone had my goal and they were
doing better than me, it pissed me off. It sure
would it make me real man. And to be fair,
there are people who do share that and they are
in great shape. They might be in better shape, they
might be in less great shape. It just is what
it is. You have to continue figuring out what it

(24:37):
is in your life that is the priority. Set that up.
I look forward to the day that I can call
this done by putting a tick beside it on my
to do list, by removing it from the to do list,
because it's done, and I'm so excited for that, and
I'll be so happy whenever I can tell every on

(25:00):
how I achieved it, or I can, you know, show
up looking a certain way, or I can you know,
invite people over to the home that I've bought, or
whatever this goal may be. There's so many of them.
That's the thing. Picket make a plan and then get
after it and look forward to it. Anticipate that coming

(25:21):
to fruition instead of worrying about whether or not there's
another beautiful difference there. Anticipation implies it is going to happen.
Worry feels like a ratio. We got a fifty one
forty nine percent of affirmative. That means we got a

(25:42):
forty nine percent of a negative. So this this is
anybody's game right now. You're not putting faith in the
fact that it's going to get done. And whenever you
approach something with a little trepidation like that, it takes
longer to get or done. Unless you're just real roal
real role lucky, and that happens too. Luck sometimes plays

(26:02):
into the park and we just got a roll with it.
You're like, oh man, you are so fortunate darn tooting.
Yes I am. Do you know why? Because I've expected
so much from other things in my life that have
come to fruition. It's almost like background operating system. It's
running in the background while and while I'm playing on Sudoku.

(26:23):
It's in the background making sure all this continues to happen,
all those things fall into place. Wonderful. What you practice
is what you become. That's it repetition. It's practice makes
permanent and that's just the thing, and I love that great.
If I'm good at, then I will get better at

(26:47):
because I keep practicing. Wonderful, Then do it? If I
continue to practice my worry and my fret and my
cuticle chewing and slump shouldered hiding in a corner or
in the darkness, or any of those kind of things,
eventually that will become my natural state of being. Bloody cuticles,

(27:09):
rounded shoulders, hiding over in a corner hoping no one's
gonna notice me. How am I supposed to achieve all
the things I came to do. If that is my
natural state of things that ain't easy? Is it impossible? Now,
hardly anything is impossible. Is it gonna be much easier
if you approach it with more of a confident anticipation

(27:30):
than a fearful worry. Yeah. Yeah. And if it doesn't,
we start finding another way to do it. Okay, super So,
if that was too large a goal, maybe I can
make several small goals on the way to that goal,
and I can tick those off a little faster. You know,

(27:51):
it's like trying to eat it efflent. You know, if
you try to shove that whole thing in your mouth
that one time is just not gonna happen. But if
you give yourself a year, you might well. Please don't
need an elephant. Please, don't that seems really bad. I've
met him, I've hugged him, I've washed them. They're delicious
little creatures, and I don't mean in flavor. They're so nice.
Please don't need an elephant. If you're gonna take down something,

(28:15):
if you're gonna cut something up into the bite sized
pieces so that you can do it, don't do an elephant.
Do use that idea, Take that idea, of I have
X amount of time and I need to get this done.
How much do I have to eat every day in

(28:35):
order to get that done in the time allotted. I
look forward to hearing how that works out for you.
I'm not worried. I love the time we get to
spend together. Thank you so much for being with us
here at Radical Joy at COLW Studios. If this is
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(28:57):
We are thrilled you're here with us. If this is
not your first episode, welcome back. Friends. So happy to
have you here in the studio with us today and
wherever you're listening. Speaking of, if you're a review person,
wherever you're listening, please leave us a five star review,
take a screenshot, send it to us. We would love
to send you some swag. Season three came with a

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brand new look, so we have some new gifts that
we would love to send out to our listeners who
send us reviews five star reviews. More than likely, it's
going to be a sticker. Actually, it's going to be
a Radical Joy sticker, and you can put it on
a water bottle, or a journal or a laptop, wherever
you choose to stick a sticker. Thank you so much
for getting the word out about what we're trying to

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do here at Radical Joy. If you know people in
your life you think would benefit from what we're doing here,
please don't hesitate to tell them, and please accept my
thanks for trying to get the word out about us
and what we continue to strive to do daily. Please also,
never forget just exactly how much much we love y'all.

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Thank you for taking time to share a moment of
joy and hope with me. We're so grateful you're here.
If this is your first time, take a moment to
check out our archive. See if there's something else in
there that fires you up rekindles the joy in you. Hey,
spread the word. If you got something out of being
with us today, we welcome your thoughts and suggestions. Now
I rarely run out of things to talk about, but
if there's something I haven't covered that's on your mind

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or heart, I want to hear from you. To learn
more about me and CELW Studios, follow the links in
the show notes. Hey, don't forget. When you leave Radical
Joy a review, be sure to send us a screenshot.
We'll send you some kick ass swag to show our gratitude.
I am not a therapist or a medical professional. If
you're experiencing a mental health emergency, please call nine to
eighty eight to reach the National Crisis Lifeline. This content

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and other content produced by CLAU Studios and affiliated partners
is not therapy, and nothing in this content indicates a
therapeutic relationship. Any opinions of guests on this podcast are
their own and do not represent the opinions of James
or CLA Studios. Please consult with your therapist or see
what in your area if you are experiencing mental health symptoms.
Everything in this podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes.

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Only have a great one and we will see you
next week for another dose of radical joy Love y'all,
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