What if everything you’ve been seeking—peace, fulfillment, even happiness—was never out there, but always right here?In this episode, I sit down with Rupert Spira, a world-renowned teacher of non-duality, to explore the profound truth of consciousness and the nature of the self. Rupert’s journey began in his teens, deeply influenced by the wisdom of Rumi and the great non-dual traditions. Today, he’s one of the clearest voices guiding seekers beyond the illusion of separation into direct awareness of their true nature.
Together, we break down the shift from external seeking to inner realization, the role of the body in dissolving the illusion of self, and the power of direct experience in awakening to non-dual awareness. This conversation isn’t just about theory—it’s about embodiment, about
living from this deeper truth in everyday life.
If you’ve ever felt there’s something more to reality than what meets the eye—if you’ve glimpsed moments of stillness, clarity, or oneness—this episode will help you recognize and stabilize that awareness in a profound and lasting way. Let’s dive in.
We Also Discuss: ●
How awakening isn’t about adding something new—it’s about recognizing what’s always been here.
● Why the
separate self is an illusion that dissolves through deep inquiry and meditative awareness.
● The
journey to self-realization where the body is a doorway, not a barrier.
● How n
on-dual awareness isn’t a concept; it’s a direct experience available to everyone.
● Why
true fulfillment comes from knowing and being what you already are.
[0:00:00] Introduction
[0:02:50] The Journey Towards Non-Dual Awareness
[0:09:47] From Seeking to Seeing: Recognizing Inner Awareness
[0:15:00] Non-Dual Inquiry and True Nature
[0:27:40] The Search of Happiness and How It’s Continually Refined
[0:34:19] How Emotions Impact the State of Our Bodies
[0:37:32] The Idea of Conceptual Understanding
[0:44:57] Language as a Gateway to Spiritual Clarity and Unity
[0:54:42] Direct Experience of Pure Awareness: Tasting Consciousness
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