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June 25, 2025 59 mins
Our journey with season 2 continues to meander in beautiful and unexpected ways as we have the extreme privilege of speaking with author, pastor, theologian, and someone well seasoned in the art of pilgrimage: Wes Granberg-Michaelson! Wes blows our minds and invites us into new and deeper understandings of pilgrimage. We delve into pilgrimage as response to empire, important movements that are inviting us back to our truest selves, and what can undergird us in the uncertain times we find ourselves in. This expansive conversation was a gift to us as are all of you, dear listeners! Thanks for making season 2 a wild and lovely pilgrimage. 
Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): 

Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Summer Solstice
01:47 Meeting Wes Granberg-Michelson
02:24 Wes's Journey as a Pilgrim
07:43 Understanding Pilgrimage and Its Dual Nature
09:51 Integrating Internal and External Journeys
16:23 Intentionality in Pilgrimage
25:36 Four Movements of Pilgrimage
31:44 Navigating the Crisis in Seminaries
36:11 Creating a Holding Space for Spiritual Growth
39:50 Walking Away from Empire: The Power of Pilgrimage
50:33 The Role of Nature in Spiritual Connection

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