Ryder Lee Interviewed on My Family Thinks I'm Crazy

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My family thinks I'm crazy. Podcastwhere I your host, trying to give
you some tips on how you canexplain all this weird, wild, crazy
conspiracy stuff to the people you lovemost, because that's what I've been trying
to do for the past ten yearswith no success. I've been telling everybody

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that I cover in a shade,but every time I do, my family
takes are crazy to all the world. To a pose Gailien isn't raining in
the water of this frass guy's dailywhen I n healthy thing ray things,
I'm writing still scamping anyone if he'sbeen any ways, my family thinks are
crazy, but they don't want tolisten now. They don't want to listen.

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They don't want to hear that.They're just like, oh here we
go, Mark off again with Markbeing marketing. Yeah. Yeah, so
you know that's the thing about podcastis when you're on the air and it's
like therapy. You know, ifI can't talk to my family about this
stuff, I'll talk to you andall our listeners. Yeah, so who

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are we talking about today? Mawnzy? Really crazy? A light flares in

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your mind, startling you out ofan already shallow sleep. There hasn't been
a peaceful night's rest since the nightmaresoccurred. But was it a nightmare?
It feels so real, the whitelight. You can still see it in
your mind's eye, silhouettes of oddshaped, cold figures looming into frame.
It's happening again. No, it'snot a dream. It's a memory,

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a flashback, a last ditch effortof your central nervous system to self correct
the inflict. Did Trauma TV maydo the trick? I just did a

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podcast with my buddy Thomas, whomakes comic books under his company Paranoid American.
But I was reading the X Filecomics and everything you were talking about
with Sam and the guys on TinfoilHat was like exactly what these X Files
writers were looking into, clearly becauseit was all coming to life, Like
as you were talking about it,I'm like visualizing things I had just read,

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images I had just seen, becausethey're talking about this kind of weird
shadowy area where maybe these what we'recalling you foes, what most people consider
aliens, are actually secret black budgetfactions of our government. Right. And
you know, the first time Ihad you on the show, we talked

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a little bit about this. Ithink we talked about more of what Walter
Bosley's well known for, which islike the whole del Show group, and
how those weird airships kind of evolvedinto what are now, I guess flying
saucers. But maybe today we canget into a little bit of that,
like mk ultra Ufo overlap, becauseit does seem like, you know,

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we were given this bill of goods, were sold this bill of goods that
you know, random rednecks were justgetting abducted by aliens, little green aliens
who wanted to shove a probe uptheir button, maybe dissect a cow on
their way home back to you know, Zeta Reticuli or whatever. And in
fact, I mean, how nowit seems like those were actually military operations

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conducted by you know, possibly peoplewithin our government or within the military,
you know, using some sort oftechnology to induce an experience or a memory
of something that was different than whatactually occurred. And now we're given this
kind of fantasy to go along withit, and this whole sci fi culture
is really bolstered on the possibility ofthese things being real events. So I

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mean, where did this kind ofstart? For you? Obviously, your
guy who you know, goes directlythis source. You've interviewed some amazing guests
on your show, raised by giants, I mean, some top level people
with clearance to know a lot ofthese things. I mean, did this
come to you before you embarked onthese interviews or was this something you kind

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of latched onto or came to theconclusion of amits talking to these people,
because I know you're interested in thissubject, But the connection specifically between MK
Ultra and UFO abductions, I mean, when did this occur to you?
Well, it's really interesting. Mark. At first off, thanks for having
me back on your show. Ireally appreciate you, brother. I'm really
looking forward to the conversation. Thisis a great way to start it out

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because really where this started for mewas digging deep into the super Soldiers and
the secret Space program people. Rightnow. I don't know if your audience
or you are familiar with what theytalk about, but they talk about a
lot of fantastical things, you know, like traveling in space, MK Ultra,
time travel, age, regression,met beds, the twenty in back

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programs, all these aliens and spaceand all this stuff, and something never
really sat right with me with itI'm like, these people are just on
here talking about random stuff. They'rejust throwing they're just taking a little bit
from here, taking a little bitfrom there, and then they're creating their
own story. So I started digginginto because I had a few of them

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on my show, some of themore legit ones that I thought were at
that time when I started my showlegit. And so then I just started
really thinking about it. I wasjust like, you know, hanging out
and like thinking about, like,how does this make any kind of logical
sense? You know, how cana because they claimed that at five years

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old they were taken or six yearwhenever they were a really young child,
they were taken by the military,a three letter agency, the CIA,
to an underground military base and locationsvery you know. It can be in
New York, it can be inNew Jersey, it can be in California,
Pennsylvania, wherever. And I waslike, how can they be taking

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at such a young age and nobodyknow where they are and they're supposedly taking
to a one of these military basesor mk all trade their mind fracture they're
put into these their consciousness is splitinto an altar and then they're shipped off
the space almost immediately through like ajump room one of these military bases to

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Mars or to the Moon or whatever, and then they live out twenty years
of their life and then their ageregress back to the very point that they're
taking and during that twenty years theytalk about these extravagant things, you know,
fighting aliens, taking no over Mars, taking over the Moon. There's
bases on the Moon, there's baseson Mars where humans are living, and
all this stuff. And I'm like, well, how does this make How

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can people quantify this in their brain? You know, how can we try
and make this make sense? Youknow, because absolutely none of it makes
sense. So I was like,okay, well I'm gonna start just digging
into what they're talking about, youknow, to try and figure out if
any part of their story is real. Which I've been calling their story a

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conspiracy burrito. That's what I've trademarkconspiracy burrito. It's a conspiracy burrito,
right, It's just got everything init. You know. You got the
aliens, you got the time try, you got everything that people talk about
within this community, all wrapped upinto one nice little box with a bow.
On top, you know. Sothen I started digging into the mk
Ultra programs, because that's how alltheir stories start out, was with mk

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Ultra. You know, when Iwas taking as a child, taking to
the base MKA Altra and Minufracturer.Then I was sent to Mars through a
portal in the jump room and allthat. So I started digging into the
mk Ultra programs. But anybody canlook at these programs. There's one hundred
and forty nine declassified MK Ultra programsthat you can legitimately read through. And
this is a thing with the communitythat people just they just talk about things.

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They just you know, try andconnect dots or whatever without actually reading
through any real kind of documentation,which is very important because whenever you read
through those you realize what's actually happening. You know, they're there for a
reason. That's not all of themKA Ultra programs, because a lot of

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them got destroyed. There is supposedlyanother two hundred this is just speculation,
another two hundred MK Ultra subprojects thatI was destroyed. Whenever Sydney got leave,
he was trying to do this operationcalled Operations spell Binder, which was
a operation to mk Ultra somebody tobe an assassin. It's sort of like

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a maturing in Candidate if you've seenthe movie Maturing Candidate. And once that
operation got mixed, they didn't didn'twork out for them. They decided to
destroy that document, along with twohundred or so other mk Ultra documents.
So this isn't all of them,but I've read through all of the one

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hundred forty nine declassified mk Ultra programsand it's very enlightening. It goes into
all kinds of different stuff. Itgoes into how they did this type of
program. Right, the first partof it is the patterning, and the
patterning is done through some form oftorture. Now, this is a weird

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concept that people get misconstrued in thecommunity. They think that torture is just
you know, being beaten or beingraped or molested or something like that,
which it is, right, butit doesn't have to be that extreme.
It can be something very simple astorture, something very annoying over a long

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period of time that can be torturousto the human psyche. Well, yeah,
there's the whole there's the whole Chinesewater torture, which I don't know
maybe that's not the right term forit anymore. But the water drops on
the forehead was famously like something theywould do in ancient China to get information
out of people. Because you know, something as simple as a water be

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dropping on your forehead just once everycouple of seconds or once every minute,
you know, it'll drive you insaneif you if you're enduring it long enough.
I mean, yeah, it takesquite wrong mind to be able to
endure those kind of tests of will. But yeah, they seem to have
used them against people, right.Like, it's almost interesting the comparison to

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shamanism because in ancient world, evenin more indigenous cultures today, they are
a right of passages that people undergowhere they're scarred or they're maimed, or
they're meant to fight something or gothrough this endurance challenge or you know,
dehydrate themselves to the point of almostemit, you know, and they survive

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it and they become a different personon the other side of it. Now,
this is you know, ritualized.It's possibly cultural, maybe even healthy
for them, but clearly we're seeingin this, you know, an inversion
of that, you know, especiallywhen it comes to something like Chinese water
torture. It's yeah, it's sinister. Really yeah. There's like there's a

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physical torture which can de pattern people, and then there's the psychological torture which
and also deep pattern people. Andthat's what the MK Ultra CIA programs were
about, was psychological manipulation and psychologicaltorture. So they would use a bunch
of different techniques in order to deeppattern people, which depatterning removes normal thinking

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patterns, common sense, critical thinking, basically like a clean slate. You're
just clean slating them. And thenthey would drug them, now drugs.
You know, there's a misconception aboutthe MK ultra programs only using drugs.
There is, I mean LSD.It was way more than just LSD.
It was mushrooms, It was theantidepressants, it was antipsychotics, it was

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amphetamine much inmphetamine is categorized under adderalland riddling, So there was an array
of drugs that they were using withinthese official CIA MK ultra programs. It
wasn't just LSD and mushrooms. LSDand mushroom thing is kind of like a
something to kind of cover up whatthey were doing. You make it all

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wild and Wui, you know,like, oh, it was just an
experimentation on LSD. That's what reallyany official sorry, any official person that
knows anything about it, in whichthey when they haven't read through the official
documents, then they would realize itwas much more than just the LSD.
But that's the first thing that comesto people's heads is the LSD when you

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talk about m k Ultra. Youknow, like if you're on Joe Rogan's
talking about oh, was it thosethe LSD experiments where there's a psilocybin experiments,
Well, yeah it was. Butthere was also other drugs that were
involved as well, such as whatI just mentioned antidepressants, anti psychotics that
are all Riddland and those medications area lot of what the population is on

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right now, and they came directlyout of the m k Ultra programs.
Right It's it's really fast eight andeye opening to that extent. And whenever
you look up the percentage rate ofUS citizens on some form of pharmaceutical medication,
there's a study from two thousand andfourteen to two thousand and sixteen that

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it says that almost fifty percent ofthe population was on some form of pharmaceutical
medication, and roughly around sixty sevenpercent of adults were on some form of
pharmaceutical medication as well. And thatstudy is what almost eight years old now,

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you know, so it's only increasedover time. I'm sure that those
numbers are resting somewhere around seventy percent, especially during twenty twenty. I mean,
all that stuff went up, youknow, depression went up, anxiety
went up, and all that becausewe know we're locked in our homes.
So after they're done drugging them,they do this thing. It's called psychic
driving, and psychic driving is theofficial description of what psychic drive was.

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They would put a loop to audiomessage in after they had been deep patterned,
app after they had been drugged.They put a recorder in there with
a looped audio message and anything couldbe on that looped audio message. And
this was the technique that they wereusing to implant false thoughts, false memories,

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and false belief systems into their head. I mean, you think about
it. You've just been deep patterned. You've either been psychologically tortured, you've
been physically tortured, you've been drugged, and now they're you're you're susceptible to
anything that you hear, So theythrow in a looped audio message. Whatever's

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on that recording you're believing is true. It could be about anything. It
could be about yourself. I'm surethey did all kinds of experiments, and
not only you know, things talkingabout you. You know, you're a
horrible person. You you know,you're you suck whatever, and or it
could be that you did some wildand crazy shit when you didn't actually do

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that, and then these things resurfacelater in your life. So looking at
the looped audio message part of this, I'm like, Okay, well,
if they can do that with arecording, then what keeps them from doing
that with a TV? Can theyjust wheel a TV and put something on

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a TV. That way you're gettinga audio and a visual message, so
you're not only seeing something, butyou're hearing it as well. Then the
next version of that would be toput some sort of virtual reality goggles on
you. And this is actually legit. They're already talking about this like in

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our time now. They're talking aboutusing psychedelics along with the virtual reality experience
make it more real, you know, like these things are real. It's
not just you know a thought ina theory, it's legit. So when
you look at it like this,inky Ultra was designed in the very first

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whenever they very first started doing itwas to remove information from a subject set,
and then it became repurposed to implantthings into a subject set, to
create false memories, to create falserealities, to create false beliefs within that

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person. So the original purpose wasto take and remove classified information that high
up military or high up intelligence peoplehad so that they can continue on,
you know, living their life oncethey retired from the agency or whatever,
so that they wouldn't have access tothat classified information anymore. So once they

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figured out that they can do that, then they were like, oh,
okay, let's switch us up.Now, let's see what we can implant.
Let's see what we can make peoplebelieve happened when it didn't really happen.
Then, within those MK ULTRA programs, within one hundred forty ninety classified
documents of MK ULTRA, there werefour to five subprojects that were done specifically

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to study ESP abilities, psychic abilities, a telekinesis, and remote viewing,
which remote viewing falls under that banner. It's just an ESP type of phenomenon.
So then I was like, holyshit, I know that there is
a real government ran remote viewing unitduring the Cold War. It's called the

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Stargate project, which you started.The project wasn't its original name and went
on are many different code names,code words, because it's a very convoluted
story. Is switched hands to startout as an Army intelligence program, got
transferred to da and then Army Intelligencestarted their own separate program, and then

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it got merged again. It wascalled Sunstreak, Girl Flame, and then
there was another one that it wascalled the Center Lane was another Army intelligence
program, and then they got combined, and then there was a DoD D
I a special access program, andthen it got that was called Sunstreak,
and then it was changed to Stargatein ninety two by Dell Graft, which

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I've had Dell Graft on my shell. I've had a lot of the military
trained operational remote viewers on my show, the people that I've reached out to
that were willing to come on myshow. Of course, I'm missing a
few because there was maybe like twentyfive to thirty between the course of from
seventy eight to ninety five when itsshut down. So then I started,

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you know, researching those programmers becauseI saw a connection here between the MKA
Altra Sydney gott Lead was studying psychicabilities within the mk Ultra programs, and
then he was funding SRI International fromseventy three to seventy five through the CIA.

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The CIA was giving Sydney Gotta Leadingmoney in order for it to be
funded, not in an official capacity. He was like a you know,
just like a donor, you know, by you know, he was getting
his money from the CIA. Sowe have these two really big connections here.
And then I'm reading through these Stargatedocuments. I'm reading through the sun

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Street documents, the Girl Flamed documents, and I'm seeing that there's a connection
here between out of body experiences aswell, because Army Intelligence paid the Monroe
Institute two thousand dollars to take itsArmy personnel to Robert Tream the Monroe Institute

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with Robert Monroe, but Robert Monroeat the Morone Institute was to him sink
the brain using frequencies to induce anout of body experience. So then I'm
like, holy shit, there,all of these things are connected. And
what I think is happening was thatthey found out that psychic abilities were a

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byproduct of the m k Ultra programs. So when you're tortured, you're psychically
driven. Most people that have traumahave some sort of out of body experience,
and through that out of body experience, there's somehow unlocking some sort of

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psychic ability. Now that psychic abilitycan arrange from you know, heavily done
trauma that's induced upon you. Itcould be done from every day, every
life trauma. You don't have tobe through a you know, an official
mk ULTRA program to have trauma andyour lifetime or to have psychic abilities.

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But the more I dug deep intoa lot of these remote viewers and people
with psychic abilities, I realized thatquite a majority of them had some sort
of out of body experience whenever theywere younger. Ingho Swan, he was
one of the most popular remote viewersever, probably one of the best next

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to Pat Price. He often talkedabout having an out of body experience whenever
he was younger because he was bullieda lot. So I'm like, what
are they trying to do here?They're sending their army intelligence people to study
with Robert Monroe to induce an outof body experience. So a lot of

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these people had near death experiences thathave these abilities that develop them organically,
which near death and out of bodyI think are very similar to each other.
So are they trying to create psychics? This is where my thought process
went, you know, instead ofdoing the torture aspect of this and wasting

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money on torturing people. Because frommy understanding speaking with Kathy O'Brien and her
being through the mk Ultra programs,which I think she is very legit.
She did a testimony to Congress inninety five about this which was shrouded under
the National Security Acts so wasn't everreleased. But from what she talks about,

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very few people actually made it outof the m k Ultra process.
And this is another thing that ismisconstrued and misrepresented within the community. To
be a part of an efficial mkULTRA program, you aren't being abducted.
That's a big misnomer within this wholething. I think that the people that

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are a part of these programs werejust abducted out of the room at night.
That's not how it works. Oneof two things happened. You either
get sold into the program, likeKathy O'Brien. You get sold into it
by a family member, which whatthey look for is prior sexual abuse or
in sets based abuse from your fatheror from a family member. You get

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sold into it at a young age, like in Kathy O'Brien's case, and
a lot of other legit MK ULTRAsurvivors. They get sold into it or
you volunteer for it. And mostof the volunteering came from hospital patients,
prisoner patients, and people like thatthat are already within the system. People

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aren't getting abduct That's the thing that'sreally important to realize in and no,
because in this community they make usseem like that you're just snatched out of
your bed at three in the morningand you're taking to this underground a military
base, and then you have allthis stuff happen to you. That's not

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the way that it works now,is there maybe you know, extenuating circumstances
where that is the case. Imean, people often want to make sense
of the you know, rampant abductionsthat you see in certain areas, specifically
like national parks where the federal governmenthas oversight and you know there is there's

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been waves of that, you know, I think the eighties there is like
a wave of child abductions. Idon't know how much of that was media
you know, induced panic or actualfactual abductions, But do you think that
there's a small portion at least ifpeople that get abducted in I mean,
if they're human trafficking, you gotto imagine that these aren't the most moralistic

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people in the first place. Idon't know if they would not at an
official capacity like the military, theCIA, these three letter organizations aren't out
there abducting people. They want togo through somewhat official black channels, like
black market channels at the most.Yeah, that's the most. That's what

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would be happening. That would becontracting somebody to go and abduct people,
if that is indeed what they're doing. But I'm here to tell you right
now that the military three letter organizationsare not going around abducting people. That's
a really false claim. Now seeingthat no abductions happening, you have people
go missing all the time. Youknow, there's abductions that you know,

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people you know, you know,serial killers, abducting people, killing people,
you know all that, but morethan likely. They're they're like never
found, you know, like they'rethey're dead, you know, they they
were killed or they were put intosome sort of you know, sex trafficking
role. You know. But asfar as military official capacity, no,

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doesn't happen and has never happened.The only reason that the military or the
CIA or any through that organization wouldbe after you is if you had some
sort of classified information. That's it. That's the only reason. And people

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use that. You know, there'sa lot of pure paranoia that goes along
in this community. Right but tellingyou right now and anybody listening, nobody
is that important. They have thiswhole thing all figured out. This community
has all been figured out, it'sbeen infiltrated. It's you literally have nothing
to worry about. There's absolutely nothinghappening that would, you know, make

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you think that you're being followed old, or that you're being tracked, or
that any of this stuff is happeningbecause all the real stuff has been We're
never going to know about, right, It's just never going to happen.
We're just never going to know.I mean, we can dig and we
can pry and all that, butit's just never going to know about it,

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and that's just the proof. That'sjust the reality of it, you
know. And we see things thathappen to people that have real classified information,
right they get a knock on theirdoor almost immediately by d d D
I A one of these through thatorganizations are knocking on their door if they

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have real information. All these otherpeople they got nothing, you know.
And that's a part of the wholesecret space program in this this super soldier
community. They all talk about howthey have highly classified information. Things that
they're talking about is all like classified. It's all military black ops and all

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know. You don't, No,you don't because you would not be able
to talk about it if you did, right, right, Yeah, I
mean that's just the reality. IfI had this happened to the doctor David
Moorehouse, which he was a partof we remote viewing unit at Fort Mead.
He's been on my show a coupleof times. I think are we

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did two interviews together? What wedid three? I did a round table
with him, Walter Bosley and KathyO'Brien. But the first one and the
second one, I really implore peopleto listen to those, watch those those
are very important. That is comingdirectly from a DA military intelligence officer that

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worked on legitimate special access programs,real ones, not Rinkie dean Key fairytale
space stuff with reverse engineering nonsense fromextraterrestrial craft. That's what we get this
thing about in this community that anythingthat's a special access program revolves around some

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whoo woo shit. But it doesn't. That's not what a real special access
program was. He was a partof a real special access program which was
done two warring cartels against each otherby creating a substance that whenever they put

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on there. I think it waseither cocoa plants or opium plants. I
think it was opium plants that wheneverthe opium plants was harvested, it didn't
have any potency at all. Therewas no potency. The drug was basically
taken out of the drug, sothere was no effects to the opium.

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And that start did a cartel warlike its shit like that. That's the
real thing. All this other stuffis distractions. They ought to be spraying
that from the sky with these chemtrails. Put some of that opium depotent ties
their out there. Yeah, thatwould save a lot of you know,
pain and agony for the attics ofthe world. But wow, that's incredible

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to hear about that. And Idon't doubt anything you're saying. I appreciate
the clarifications coming from someone who's spoketo experts and people with clearance. I
mean, there's so much that wehear about in this community. As you
say that, it just borders onthe realm of fantasy. And you have
to wonder whether these people are init for their own paranoid delusions or if

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they have some sort of agenda tosort of I don't know, madden people
and drive you know, this sortof stupidity to an extent that is unheard
of by just you know, inacting all kinds of fantasy into this realm
of serious inquiry. I mean,we should know to some extent what our

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taxpayer money is going towards. Iunderstand, you know, defense, and
understand like we don't want all oursecrets out there for everybody to be able
to take. There are enemies inthe world, but as far as you
know, when it comes to UFOsand I mean you mentioned them in Roe
Institute and remote viewing, I mean, people really underestimate the veracity of these

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things. And I think it's totheir benefit that the average person is drawn
to fantasy and sci fi. Whetherthat was planed for through predictive programming or
what have you, I mean,who knows, but I definitely think that
it's to their benefit that there's thisobsession amongst this sort of subculture about aliens

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and the reality of it, whichI you know, I'm not saying there
aren't there's a life and other dimensionsof this reality or on other planets or
whatever, but I'm a real skepticwhen it comes to a lot of these
alien stories, especially. You know, the more you learn, the less

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there is to really trust when itcomes to a lot of this stuff.
You know, absolutely, And that'swhat I really figured out. It's really
kind of a bummer. It's reallya bummer, you know. Yeah,
Well, you don't come to itfrom that, like you know, skeptic
angle that what's the guy the famousskeptic of Randy whatever, Like, we
don't come to it from that angleof wanting to debunk everything. So I'm

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with you. It is kind ofdisappointing when you you realize this stuff you
know that David Ike talks about maynot be as true and maybe he's just
using, you know, allegory torile people up. I mean, who
knows, right, I would trustDavid Ike over a David Wilcock or bad
example on an I's part, badexample. I didn't mean to draw him

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into this, but yeah, Ihear ye David David Ikes. Okay.
But what happens is is a lotof this stuff has been conflated, dramatized,
turned into something that it's not inorder to cover up real things that
are actually happening. That's the wholedeal with the alien UFO narrative. Yeah,

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if they want to keep your focuson that, it's extraterrestrials coming from
off of our planet, right,They're they're coming here to abduct us.
They're coming here to do experimentations.Honest, they're here to create hybrids.
When you look at it critically andlogically, mark this is really important.

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It's probably going to piss a lotof people off. But those things that's
been attributed to extraterrestrials doing it tous, we are doing to ourselves.
Right. Yeah, we're doing thegenetic modification, we're doing the spicing of

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DNA, we're doing the crisper technology. We're trying to create a new human
two point zero. Right, it'sthe cover up that it's the government,
that is the military, that it'sus doing this to us on some fairytale,
nonsensical, mythical thing that nobody eversees besides in the dream state,

(35:32):
the astral state, or under theinfluence of some sort of drag. Right,
it's the Boogeyman's boogeyman two point zero. It's always a boogeyman. So
now, people who who have undergonethis MK ultra experience, they're not just
plucked out of a random group ofpeople, as you said. There are

(35:54):
people who you know, unfortunately wereborn into really shitty circum stances and we're
sold into the government's auspices to dothese sort of experiments on and I imagine
the out of body experiences can bequite you know, mystifying, confusing.

(36:16):
If you've never heard of anything likethat, I mean, you really don't.
It's not like a big part ofour culture. You know, maybe
nowadays it's a little more not knownabout, but like, I don't know,
you're not going to see it youraverage little town like a class to
learn how to astral project, youknow, like you might come across the

(36:37):
Monroe book if you're into this kindof stuff. But for most Americans,
you know, astral projection is notin the realm of like understanding. But
especially a young person, you takethem into that experience. Are you suggesting
that maybe that's why we have thesesort of weird memories of things that are,

(36:58):
like you say, conditioned to us, you know, this kind of
fantasy element to throw us off thetrail from really understanding what kind of experimentation
is going on. I think so. I think that's exactly what's happening.
And that's been done through entertainment.It's been done through movies. And the
biggest one is religion. Religion hashit down when hardcore right to nail on

(37:21):
the head bright because religion makes peoplebelieve in something extraordinary that isn't possible in
this reality. So whenever you know, because everyone is indoctrinated to a degree
with Christianity, regardless of you thinkthat you are, you're not. People

(37:45):
know what's in the Bible. Everyperson knows what's in the Bible. Everyone
knows who Jesus is. That's justa fact. And you can say that
you're not a Christian, you cansay that you don't believe in God,
doesn't really matter. You still knowthe story is so there's stories have been
essented into the consciousness of everybody onthe planet, and regardless if you believe

(38:10):
it or not, you still revertto it, you still quote it,
you still do things, you stilltalk about. These are the Bible.
I mean, movies and TV showsreference the Bible all the time, all
the christ symbolism, like the matrixwas all about the Christ. Jesus was

(38:32):
neo. There's even you know,whenever he's fallen out of that airplane in
the third movie, he's got hisarms up like this and he lets cross
like he's being crucified. There's somuch stuff that's just implanted that goes back
to Christianity and people believing that thesestories in the Bible and within religion are

(38:53):
real has shaped and molded our realityhere absolutely regardless, again, regardless if
you actually believe them or not,it's still supplanted within the mass consciousness of
everybody. Yeah, I mean,like think about I think the concept of
heaven is more American than it isChristian in some respects. I mean,

(39:15):
it's something that I think a lotof people who may not necessarily even go
to church or have read the Bible, will implicitly believe in this concept because
it fits into like this American culturalperspective that's been kind of fostered here.
Yeah, it's very you know,I don't know, it's part and parcel

(39:37):
to growing up in the United Statesto have some kind of religious experience,
or at least it was when wewere growing up. Still, I think
now maybe it's changed a bit dependingon where you live. If you're like
on the coast like me, EastCoast or West Coast, is probably a
little more modern. But I thinklike Midwest and South. People in the

(39:58):
South, like that's a big partof their whole world view, their community
lives revolve around. I mean NewEngland has that in pockets as well,
but not you know, no,it's it's kind of like secular, like
we will go to church because forposterity, so they don't look like bad
people, you know. So thepeople that don't believe in the stories of
the Bible are more likely to believein extra trestial phenomenon. They're more likely

(40:23):
to believe in life outside of ouruniverse. Now, the people that do
believe in the Bible that take alot of the stories within the Bible as
being true and factual stories have historicalevents, normally don't believe in extraterrestrials.
They don't believe in life outside ofour world, which is really backwards.

(40:46):
The people that don't believe these storiesand these miracles and everything that happen in
the Bible through Christianity believe in fairytales here in this reality now. But
the people that do believe it don'tbelieve in miracles and weird rubou shit in

(41:09):
this reality, right, right,Yeah, it's been inverted, it's been
slit. I mean, yeah,I don't know if that's the case strut
everyone, right, But from thepeople that I've encountered, the people that
I've talked to you through my life, my personal journey, more than likely
that's how it is. Certainly withthe younger people, I think it's more

(41:30):
you know, well known this sortof like this, I guess you could
call it like pop spirituality, youknow, new age type thinking is more
I don't know, it's not asfrowned upon as it would be. But
yeah, whether you're in the morelike secular kind of modern coast type cities
or you're in like a more religious, you know area. I think that

(41:52):
there's still this like dominating kind ofworldview, whether it's atheistic, scientific,
and like basically the new religion orthe old religion. There you're still being
kind of manipulated or controlled to someextent by this you know, overall overarching
way of of of filtering how wesee our reality, you know, absolutely,

(42:16):
And this isn't mean you know,a bastion on the Bible or Christianity
or any of that, like,you know, just to be clear,
I think that, well, Ibelieve that the Bible is important, but
I don't believe that any of thestories in there are real, factual historical
stories. I believe that they're alecoracle. They're metaphorical, and their majority

(42:38):
of the time astrological. A lotof it, you know, correlates to
the stars and the sun, theson of God Sun, and it's the
sun and the sky. God createdthe sun. That's that's his son,
son in the sky, you know, and when you look at it like
that is metaphorical. I mean,Jesus says in the Bible multiple times,

(43:00):
at least three different verses, thatJesus never spoke, but in a parable.
You know what is a parable parable? It is basically an allegory.
It's basically a metaphor, and it'sa story, you know. So that's
the only issue that I have with, you know, Christianity and religion is
the people that take the stuff tobe literal. It's not literal. It's

(43:22):
not literal stories. It's meant to, you know, spark interest. It's
meant to, you know, showyou something that you didn't perceive before in
your reality. Not that Jesus wasa real literal figure that was the son
of God that came down here andwas crucified and then a say it rose
again three days later and then sendit up into the sky, Or that

(43:42):
Adam and Eve encountered a you know, a talking snake and raveling from him.
When's the last time you saw atalking snake? Mark? Never?
Right? You know, when's thelast time we've seen a person with the
staff? A part the sea andhalf? Right? You know, none
of these things happen in our reality. You just don't. Nothing like that

(44:07):
ever happens. Now. We canexperience some things that seem like miracles,
but they're no we're where as nearas extravagant. Ever, you know,
like things can work out for us, we can have some synchronicities and we
can sit back and be like,oh wow, now what do you what
do you think? What do youthink of the whole Fatima situation in Spain

(44:31):
with the children seeing something in thesky and then the whole you know,
village sees it. I mean,do you think that whole story was fabricated?
Do you think they saw something andjust didn't know what it was and
now they're making it out to bethis religious icon or prophecy. Well,
not familiar with that story. Iwould have to look into it. But

(44:52):
doing my research on him KA Ultra, you have gotten from several people that
would know, like Walter Bosley.His dad was involved in the CIA,
and Walter Bosley was in the AirForce, and according to him, the
Air Force was has been running themk Ultra programs ever since the CIA MK

(45:16):
ultra program got shut down. Sowhy would the Air Force be interested in
doing MK ultra experiments and why wouldthey keep that running since eighty five?
Would I have something to do withthe UFOs and seeing stuff in the sky.
Would it be some kind of simulationtechnology? Would it be something like

(45:40):
you know, Project Blue Beam thatgets thrown around this community that everyone talks
about that there's no verifiable evidence thatthey have any kind of technology like that,
but it's still interesting. But theAir Force doing these kinds of experiments
really brings in the question the entireUFO and alien phenomenon. And then when

(46:05):
you look at the V two Ktechnology, you know, the ability to
implant thoughts and ideas and beliefs,possibly even hallucinations into people's heads. Couple
that within ka ultra stuff, yougot you recipe for them simulating whatever they

(46:28):
want you to see, right,And that requires a couple of things for
the V two K stuff to actuallywork on a good level. For it
to be convincing two people, youhave to either be traumatized to a heavy
degree and you have that splitting ofyour consciousness, that compartmentalization of your consciousness,

(46:57):
or you can be you know,heavily drug And I just mentioned ten
to fifteen minutes ago about how muchof the population is on some sort of
pharmaceutical drug. Right, So ifyou're drugged, you've been traumatized. I
mean, look at how many worldwidetraumatizing events that we've had just in the

(47:19):
last hundred years. You know,you got the Titanic sinking and you got
JFK. Well before that, yougot World War Two, you know,
you got then you know JFK,you got the Cold War where everyone's scared
of, you know, nuclear warwith Russia. You got nine to eleven.

(47:40):
You have all these shootings everywhere,you know, Columbine, Boston bombing,
and then you got twenty twenty.You know, it's all mass traumatizing
events. People feel afraid and scaredin the medical community is designed whenever you

(48:02):
have any kind of problem, yougo to the doctor, they immediately put
you on some sort of medication.You take the medication, then you're more
susceptible to be influenced. That's whatI feel is really going on. The
antidepressants and antipsychotics and anti anxiety medications, all those are there for you to

(48:27):
be more susceptible to suggestion. Andthat's what they were doing within the m
k aut Your programs. They weretrying to make people more susceptible to suggestion,
which is another thing that hypnotherapy doesas well, you know, being

(48:49):
hypnotized or being regressed to put youin a relaxed state then opens your consciousness
up to suggestion. You can easilybe implanted with thoughts, ideas. Beliefs
in that suggestible state can literally changeyour consciousness for anything that they want.

(49:14):
This is why I don't like theidea of regressions, and regressions have become
a whole thing for the abduction phenomenon. Whenever you hear the word regression,
you know, people in the communityautomatically think, you know, regression to
figure out if I was abducted byit, I had I had some missing
time the other day, and Ihad a five minutes of missing time the

(49:35):
other day. I think I needto go get regress really quick to see
if I was abducted by some grayaliens, or maybe I got raped by
some reptilian beings. I was takenon a shippers Mocturians Playdians, maybe I
traveled to the Zeta reticulized star system. I need to go figure it out
really quick. But regression, theactual therapeutic form of regression is to help

(49:57):
you with traumas, right, isactually help you better your life like people
use it to, you know,quit smoking, quit drinking, quitting an
addiction. To figure out, youknow, things that might have happened to
them in their childhood. But thecommunity is taken the regression thought in the
regression idea and turn it into somethingthat it's not. Again, like the

(50:17):
community loves doing. They love takinga real, verified project or a real
program or a title of something andthen turned it into something else that has
no basis in reality, no factualevidence, zin zero proofs. It's like

(50:39):
what I was talking about on thatwas sam the looking glass technology. You
know, people take that looking glasstechnology in the community and they're like,
oh, yes, it's a it'san ultramega technology. The less the government
see into the future or see intothe past and see if the events will
happen, and then things will playout the way that they wanted to,
and then if it doesn't, thenthey can go back and formulate their plan.

(51:00):
They'll go back to their lab andthey'll get their look lixers and schematics
out and they'll redo their plan andall that Operation looking Glass is really a
Air Force operation to put a commandpost in space with the ability to launch
nukes from Earth. You know whatwould they rather have you thinking that looking

(51:21):
glass project looking glasses? They ratherhave the community thinking that it's a scene
into the future and into the pasttechnology, or that it's something super detrimental
that's probably illegal for them to bedoing, all right, right, putting
nukes in space? Yeah, absolutely, wow. And I think, you
know, again, like this shouldn'tbe discouraging to people who are like,

(51:45):
oh, well, he's just debunkingeverything, because when you realize you know
what there is to leave to theside, you see that behind that like
layer of the onions, so tospeak, there are richer, deeper conclusions
to be had, information that they'rehiding from us. And I think,

(52:07):
you know, especially over the pastten fifteen years, there's been a whole
bunch of political interests that are gettingin the way of this dissemination of truth
that once occurred in these alternative places, you know, amongst unpopular authors and
now unpopular podcasts. I mean,they are becoming more and more popular,

(52:29):
especially like with great shows like Sam'sTinfoil Hat, you know, kind of
leading the charge up there in thecomedy podcast Realm and kind of like legitimizing
this subject and also you know,bringing a laugh to it too, because
it can't just be all doom andgloom and debunking I mean, I think
there's definitely, you know, alot of crap out there that needs to

(52:52):
be reconciled with the truth, butwe can do it in a fun way
as well, you know. AndI think that that's kind of where I
come in, you know, withwhat I like to listen to, you
know, because I get I'm veryempathic when it comes to like who I'm
listening to on a weekly basis.You know, if I listen to something

(53:13):
that's taking me down this like DoomSpiral, I mean, it definitely affects
this show. I think I'm morelike, you know, just I sound
depressed. I mean, maybe I'mjust like thinking too much into it.
But either way, there's a certainbenefit to having this sort of like spread

(53:36):
of confusion out there, because,as you point out, like they could
put nukes in space and we're allthinking it's about time travel or seeing into
the future, you know, AndI mean, geez, imagine that that
like a meteor flying from the sky. Nope, not a meteor. It's
a nuclear missile that fell out oforbit and is now crashing into a you

(53:57):
know, school playground somewhere. Youknow. I think this is something that
we should know about as citizens andglobal citizens. Not that I'm in for
globalism in any way, but Ithink, yeah, there's definitely a reason
why our military wants to keep thatkind of stuff of a secret and obscured.
Yeah, And I'm not, youknow, here to do any kind

(54:19):
of you know, doing gloom stuffLike I think that the world's going to
keep going no matter why. There'snot going to be any big destructive event.
There might be some kind of largerthan normal natural disaster. Now whether
that disaster is an actual, realnatural disaster, who knows. You know,
they have the ability to manufacture hurricanes, They have the ability to do

(54:45):
all kinds of different stuff. Youknow. Linda B. Johnson from the
Democratic Caucus in sixty eight was no. Fifty eight, Sorry, excuse me,
fifty eight. I was talking abouthow space is a superposition. You
know, from space, they cando whatever they want. They can control
the weather, they can manipulate thetides, they can Basically, space is
this ultimate superposition. And from space, if they control it and hold it,

(55:09):
they can do whatever they want.Basically. Yeah, So as far
as like a huge event that's gonnabe devastating and crazy, it's not going
to happen. It's just not goingto happen. There's no way, and
there's people making predictions about that.Oh yeah, twenty twenty forty, it's

(55:30):
gonna happen. There's gonna be thishuge event that wipes out everyone and every
even nobody has ever predicted anything ever, right, you know how many people
has predicted the end of time sincethe Oh yeah, it's a whole I
mean, it's a whole subject millenarianism, right. I looked into it a

(55:51):
bit when studying my own local areahere in Connecticut, because New Haven was
kind of built on this idea,this town new Haven, you know,
New Harbor, safe Harbor, asafe haven from this coming judgment from God.
And you know, it's not justa Christian in manifestation, their religions

(56:14):
all over the world that believe inthese sorts of ideas that you know,
throw up a dart at a calendarand that's the day we're all gonna perish.
Right, And then suddenly whoever callsthat is the you know, chosen
one for a few weeks until everybodyfinds out they're wrong. You know,
that's I think that's the m withthat kind of thing, and I'm with

(56:36):
you, Sam said it a bunchon tinfoil too, When when those kind
of statements have been made, islike, you know, why get into
predictions, because if you're if you'rehere long enough, if you follow up
with this stuff, and you're notjust like living in a vacuum, it's
pretty obvious that, like from Nostradamisto David Wilcock, like none of these
predictions come come to pass. Neverdo ever that not one person has made

(57:04):
a prediction about the end of theworld and has ever come true, right,
just doesn't happen. Now, whatwe're seeing now is people getting smarter
to their grift, right, ifthey're getting a little bit smarter with it
that they're putting the date foreign advanceright, like the Jehovah's witness and all

(57:25):
that, you know, three andthree thousand years or whatever. Yeah,
I've heard it all. I thinkthat's a common like pitfall into like I
don't know, a dead end.I guess you can call it sheep dipped,
right. That's how they keep alot of this information, you know,
leaving people with nothing to do aboutit because they feel hopeless, they

(57:49):
feel futile, they feel like somethingelse is the reason that they believe it,
though, Mark is because they unfortunately, they hate their lives so much,
they hate their reality. They're depressed. I think it sucks here.
Now, I'm not saying that itdoesn't. It might. And I mean
people everyone's circumstances are different. Imean some people are born into shitty circumstances.

(58:17):
That's that's what happens when you comehere in this three D physical reality.
You know, it's kind of likegamble, just a shuffle. You
know. Sometimes you get down togood hand, sometimes you get down to
bad hand. And I might soundpessimistic or something, or some people are
like, what are you talking about? Right, why do you say that?
You know, everyone, it shouldall be love and peace and greatness

(58:39):
and happiness here. We should beall unity. That's never going to happen
either, can't happen. Can't happenhere in this three D physical reality.
It's never going to be perfect,right, It's never going to be rainbows,
butterflies might fairy tale in accordance,because that's not what this three D

(59:04):
physical reality is. Four, we'rehere to experience the shit. That's it.
Yeah, here to experience and youget a wide range of experiences here.
Whether you like them or not,whether they're shitty, whether you hate

(59:28):
them, doesn't matter. It's stillan experience. And if you want rainbows,
lights, fairy tales and all thatshit, then you're not going to
be in a three D physical existence. We're going to be someplace house,
some other reality, some higher dimensionof reality. And guess what, You're

(59:52):
not going to get to experience thethings that we get to experience here.
You're not. It doesn't work likeit works here, and higher dimensions or
higher levels of reality, right,that's what makes us special here. That's
what I'm really trying to drive inthe two people's heads is that they just

(01:00:13):
have to dive head first and acceptthat we're here and double down on this
reality make literally the best of it. You know. That's what I've realized
in the past three years of doingmy show and talking with all these people,
and being on other people's shows likeyourself, Tempole high Leak projects,

(01:00:37):
you know, all these different shows. You know, It's just we are
here to experience, right, That'sit. And everything that comes along with
that experience, the good, thebad, the ugly, the pleasure,
the pain, the love, thehate. You we get both extremes here,

(01:01:02):
and it's my personal opinion that thisis the only place that we can
experience that level of extremes. Youdon't get to experience high levels of bliss
and higher realms of reality, andyou don't get to experience high levels of

(01:01:24):
pain either. It's kind of likea neutral zone where you're just kind of
bland. You know. We getto have emotions here, we get to
do things here, We get toexperience everything that this life has to offer.
And that's really what I'm just tryingto convey is just live it and

(01:01:49):
experience it and realize that it's justfor a certain period of time, and
then we come right back and wedo it again. That's it, or
we don't come back and we gosomeplace else. But I am under the
current understanding and current theory and personalbelief that this planet is possibly the only

(01:02:17):
planet that you can come to inthe universe. Now, this might sound
backwards to a lot of people,and I'll probably get a lot of hate
for it, because I already havepeople have already been down down my throat
on talking about this. But it'sjust the theory, just a personal belief.

(01:02:38):
It's quite possible that this planet isthe only planet in the universe that
people can come to experience a threeD physical reality. And it kind of
makes sense when you really think aboutit, right, Why why are possessions?

(01:03:00):
You know, why walkins? Whyspirits? Why ghost why paranormal activity?
What are they doing? If there'ssome other place to go, why
aren't they going? Well? Couldit be this is the only place to
go? Yeah, I don't seewhy not. I think our idea of

(01:03:21):
where we are has been kind ofskewed by our understanding of our third dimensional
perspective. When you know, wesee sort of islands in an ocean,
we imagine that being kind of ana proper allegory for the Earth in the
in space, when maybe it's it'sdifferent. Maybe it's more like the microcosm,

(01:03:42):
where inside of us we have billionsof living creatures that have their own
completely different reality existing simultaneously with usimplicitly because we couldn't survive without those little
micro organisms, you know, leadingtheir lives in this kind of microscopic realm.
What if we're the microscopic realm tosomething that's huge beyond Earth that we

(01:04:06):
just couldn't even fathom and that's partof our ascension process outside of Earth afterwards.
I mean, you know, itfeels like that's kind of where you're
you're going with this, But youknow, when it comes to what we're
sort of starting off with this conversation, do you think that the powers that

(01:04:26):
be that conduct these kind of experimentsgenetically or otherwise messing with our you know,
memories and implanting thoughts and ideas.Do you think they only do this
because they're aware that this is thesort of free will third dimension that this
kind of stuff can go on.Do you think they're ignorant to the way,

(01:04:46):
you know, the spiritual truths ordo you think they're they're so you
know, high on that free willspiritual thing that they realize, oh well,
evil doesn't really exist in realm,so we could do whatever we want.
Is that kind of where you standon it? Or because I think
it's something that necessarily doesn't need tohave an explanation, but because we're like

(01:05:11):
these moralistic reasoning creatures, we kindof try to fit everything into that narrative
anyway, So how do you seeit? That's an interesting thought and very
provoking. I think it could possiblybe a mixture of both, and its

(01:05:31):
started out as just wanting to controland mold society. I think that that
might have been their intention, youknow, because we're we are a warring
society. You know when you lookat it, look back through history,

(01:05:57):
how many people have died in wars, you know, Like, right,
if we just had all of theinformation that there was to know, I
think that their thought process was legitimatelywasn't just an excuse. There's always going
to be somebody there that wants totake us out, you know, and

(01:06:25):
destroy the things that we've built.So we have to have secrets, we
have to have black breadth budget programs, we have to be doing these things
for the greater good because we're afraidof an external source. And that external

(01:06:53):
source not being some aliens from offthe planet coming here and all that.
I mean, an external source hasa different country or other people on the
planet that I want to come in, take us over or destroy us.
Now I'm not saying that they wereright, and I'm not saying that they
were wrong, but I think thattheir theory and their thought hinged on the

(01:07:19):
fact that they would do that ifeveryone had all the information and all,
like if everything, if we kneweverything, everything that was going on in
the government that was what we weredoing, even the bad things and the

(01:07:39):
good things. It would just itwould erupt into chaos at this point.
Really, would you know if thegovernment came out one day and was like,
yeah, we did all this stuffand we're still doing it right,
you know, right, not goingto be able to control people at all.

(01:08:03):
No form of civilty would I don'teven know if civilty is a word,
might be a word would rule afterthat, I hear it. It
would just be destruction. People wouldjust be going crazy, right, So
they have to keep it under wrapsto an extent and looking from that side

(01:08:26):
of it, not seeing that it'sright. But I understand it. I
get it at this point. Youknow, it's a it's almost a legit
national security issue. In national security, and it's not just a that's not
used as an excuse or a blanketedterm in this case, it's real national

(01:08:50):
security, right. You know.We can see how people reacted in you
know, twenty twenty with the riotsand the protest and all that. Imagine
if that was based on something that, for the lack of a better word,
it actually mattered. Imagine if thatwas riotson protests over the issue that

(01:09:16):
we just went through in twenty twenty. Right, well yeah, I mean
in twenty nine controllable, but insteadthey controlled it the manufacturing event, right,
the event wasn't real. Yeah,it's fake shot on some set somewhere.
Well in Europe, I think theyhave a real problem with that.

(01:09:40):
Like that was a big part oflike rumors before twenty nineteen, like oh,
this yellow jacket movement is these protestsare being suppressed and nobody's putting it
on American television. But look what'shappening in these cities in Europe and you
see like, you know, thousandsof people wearing these yellow jackets, you
know, and France or wherever else. And yeah, I think that was

(01:10:02):
the first thing that came to mymind, was like, oh, now
they're manufacturing these crisises to get peopleto protest in a way that approved you
know, is approved by the agenda, you know, and to put it
maybe a distaste towards those who wouldtake that kind of thing for righteous reasons,

(01:10:24):
right to show you know, maybethe average joe like oh, hey,
look at the chaos that comes fromany sort of political demonstration, rather
than oh, No, those werecrazy people who actually were paid off by
a corporation to destroy a bunch ofstuff. That's the true angle. Nobody
sees that because they're just thinking,oh, well, anytime people get together,

(01:10:46):
this is just what happens. Peopleare crazy, they're chaotic. You
know. It gets this whole sortof paradigm in people's heads and then they
live their life that way from thereon out. And now let's say we
you and I protest against you know, them dropping you know, weird bioparticles
from the sky. They're just goingto think, oh, well, here's
another crazy group of protesters. Hopefullythis doesn't get out of hand. You

(01:11:11):
know, it just totally throws thatwhole constitutional right into jeopardy, really into
social jeopardy, social criticism. Yesit does. And I think that we're
heading for another one, another one, and it's going to be a big

(01:11:31):
daddy, big granddaddy. But that'snot a prediction. That's just my yeah,
my thoughts. And you know,looking back through history, seeing you
although there are examples that they've saidwe're primed. Right now, we're really
primed. They're they're hitting the primerbutton on the freaking gas pedal. They're

(01:11:53):
getting us ready, and it's goingto be I personally believe, really big,
and it's going to be flipped aroundon us, you know, because
that's the way that they manipulate anddo things. That's how they psychologically manipulate
people, especially in the United States. The United States has spent more money

(01:12:15):
on psychological operations than any other countryin the world. That's why we didn't
get the harshest amount of regulations andmandates and all that during twenty twenty.
Other countries got that, they gotthe boots on the ground type of martial
law almost right, like the UK, Australia and Canada banking up for lost

(01:12:38):
time. We didn't get that herebecause here it's psychological. It's to trick
us into thinking that it's our ideato do it. Yeah, yeah,
that all free will bargain, bargainingwith our own choices. Yeah. So
that's what I feel is going toYou'll come soon now, not as soon

(01:13:02):
as like next week or you know, next month or whatever, but in
the near future, before twenty thirty, for sure, we're going to get
an event like this. Wow,that's gonna be flipped around on us,
and it's gonna be like you guysare the problem. You're the issue.
You started this, right, Yeah, But I then people who are going

(01:13:26):
to be thinking that they're out theredoing it for righteous reasons when they're actually
doing it according to the plant,right, And that's the that's the thing.
And you know, I could bewrong, who knows. That's just
my thought process. I mean,this whole thing can't come to a close
without a dramatic event. Yeah,yeah, I think you see it with

(01:13:49):
you know, major cities sort ofpeople being pushed into these situations. You
know now we're seeing like smart citiesand whatnot. It's any you know,
the whole situation that just occurred,I think provoked a lot of people to
get out of cities, which mighthave been not a favorable reaction on the

(01:14:10):
you know, manipulators, the stringpoller's part. I think they prefer when
people stay in these boxes, andyou know, they're pushing us to be
become, you know, comfortable withthis idea of everything being fifteen minutes away
from you, and anything that youneed outside of that you can meet virtually
and you don't need to ever leavethat fifteen minute bubble, which is just

(01:14:32):
ludicrous. I mean, considering wherewe started this conversation, like, do
you think there's any kind of valueeven in looking into UFOs or having like
a stake in that whole conversation,because it definitely feels like now that the
media has you know, kind ofrolled out the tic tac footage, it

(01:14:55):
doesn't feel as countercultural as it oncewas really at all. And also,
you know, it seems like thereal truth that was always there has been
left to the wayside as well,which is the more interesting in my opinion,
conversation about how air travel was kindof taken away from US as a
as a viable way of getting around. I mean, they took it from

(01:15:19):
something that was essentially free energy,these darrigibles, these flying balloon type of
things, and they made them lookunfashionable. You saw the Zeppelin crashes,
the Hindenburg, the last I thinkoperational Like you know, zeppelin of this
type is owned by Goodyear, whichis like basically there's the automobile interests right

(01:15:42):
there, rubber oil, you know, it's all it's all connected there,
and you see them kind of crashliterally crash that you know, industry in
favor of railroads. Automobiles and evenrailroads are kind of going to the wayside
in favor of these electric cars andautomobiles. Maybe we'll see that happen to

(01:16:03):
them too. But you know,what are your thoughts on UFOs as far
as, like, you know,in this realm of like actual technology,
because it does seem like they aregovernments that have these objects that they use
and they just rely on the factthat people think they're aliens to kind of

(01:16:24):
use that as a cover. Yes, I think that well, first off,
whenever you whenever someone sees something weirdin the sky. So the evolving
nature of UFOs have been really strange. And you look back where they started.
They started out as like a disc, right, a disc flame through

(01:16:45):
the sky. It was a tincanned disc some call dam a sombreros and
the Mexican hats and in Mexico,you know, because that's what they look
like. There are physical objects,physical disc right, and now it's it's
evolved into something completely different. Peopledon't see this craft anymore. It's like

(01:17:06):
that just faded out. Yeah,it's no longer I think, you know,
now it's weird lights in the sky. Now it's you know, teleporting
craft. Now it's you know,morphine craft flying humanoids whatever you know.

(01:17:30):
So looking at the evolving nature ofit, how and why would it evolve
so quickly? Why? How howcould it evolve so quickly? It's telling
me these extraterrestrials flew around on tencan craft and then all of a sudden,

(01:17:51):
twenty thirty years later there are ininnerdimensional time traveling warps teleportation craft doesn't
make any sense. If our technologyand our way of life progressed and the
way the UFOs progress, we wouldbe traveling to other universes by now,

(01:18:14):
right, So something's wrong here.And then that's just the first thing.
And the other thing is we havereally created the extraterrestrial hypothesis. By seeing
something weird in the sky, weautomatically assume, oh, well, it's
gotta be extraterrestrials. It's gotta bealiens coming to visit us, to come

(01:18:40):
and abduct us, or abduct thecows or abduct them animals, or get
us or whatever, take us,or however the stuff is going. You
know, that's our first thought,and that's been due to us. We've
created that narrative because we think thatthe government has been covering up the existance

(01:19:00):
of extraterrestrial life, when they've beensaying the exact opposite since Roswell and forty
seven. They have it's a it'sa fact. Yeah, they've said since
the very beginning, we have absolutelyno reason to believe that this had anything
to do with extra trestrials, Like, why would they do that if it

(01:19:29):
didn't have anything to do with extratrestrials. Right, there's legitially no reason
for them not to say, orwe don't know what it was, or
we're still conducting an investigation to findout what it was. They just flat
out say every single time, thishas nothing to do with extra trestrials.

(01:19:53):
Well, if it has nothing todo with extra trestrials, it only leaves
one other option. They only haveone option in the playbook thing. So
the whole thing has really been coopted, and it's been our fault from
the jump. We've created the narrative, we've created the whole UFO extraterrestrial hypothesis,

(01:20:16):
when it's far more likely that itis something that we created. Walter
Bosley talking about the scenario Club inNorthern California in the mid eighteen hundreds,
they were trying to create an antigravity craft and they were pretty successful because
during that time newspaper articles talking aboutit, so he said they were seeing

(01:20:38):
weird things in the sky. Pastforward a little bit to World War two,
the Germans were working on anti gravitycraft as well. Doctor Joseph Farrell
has written several books about the Glocabell technology, which was very similar to
the scenari Ao Clubs fuel added theywere using as well. Scenario Club was

(01:21:01):
using a gred a green spinning mercuryfuel additive, and the Germans were using
a read spinning mercury fuel additive tolet their craft to lift up off of
the ground. So then after WorldWar Two, all these things started happening.
You got the Roswell event of fortyseven, you got the Washington Flap

(01:21:25):
event of fifty two, Ketsburg eventof ninety five, the first abduction,
and sixty one by Betty and BarneyHill. And the first statements from Barney
was that it was the military thatabducted them. They saw military officers and
military uniforms that abducted them. Andit wasn't until after they were regressed that

(01:21:45):
Betty was regressed. Then the regressionistskind of influenced her and then she started
saying that it was extraterrestrials and thatit was aliens and all this, and
if you actually look up their drawings, they kind of look like military officers
with a weird nose, you know, in some pale scheme. You know,
that was the leftover residue of whatthey actually experienced, combined with their

(01:22:11):
their suggestion that it could possibly beextraterrestrials, just like were what we were
talking about earlier, with the suggestibility. In a relaxed state, no regressionists
could come in. They could belike their first statements, like you know,
Barney statements were that you saw militarypersonnel and military uniform and those were

(01:22:32):
the people that abducted them. Youcan get a regression and the regressionists can
be like, what are you seeingthe Barney at all? I'm seeing military
officers and military uniforms here, Andthen the regressionists something like are you sure
it wasn't anything else, And theBarney could be like, oh yeah,
it could be something else. Ohwait, Then the regressionts be like,

(01:22:58):
could it be aliens? And thenBarney's like, oh my god, it
was aliens. That's how easy itis, right, That's how easy it
is So when you look at allthese events and how they have all stacked
up, the obvious conclusion is thatit has nothing to do with extra transtrials,

(01:23:23):
has nothing to do with aliens visitingus from off the planet, has
everything to do with us with ourspecial access program, creating advanced technology,
creating anti gravitical craft. And we'vebeen the ones that's been doing this,
and the cover up has been thatit's aliens, right, that it's extra

(01:23:45):
trustrious. You know, people aregoing to get pissed off whenever I say
this too, But there is literallyzero proof, zero evidence of extraterrestrians.
That's just the reality, right.I hate to burst people's bubbles on this,

(01:24:09):
but literally all we have in theform of proof and evidence of extraterrestrial
life off of our planet are people'sstories, right, That is all they
are. Right. No one hasmet a physical, real extraterrestrial that they

(01:24:36):
can reach out their arm too andshake their hand, right, It's never
happened, right, So when youlook at the extraterrestrial hypothesis, you can
look back to religion. We havezero proof and zero evidence of any of
the stories of the Bible being trueeither well, and a lot of these

(01:24:59):
you know imagery, you know,things that informed what became sci fi ufo
lore were in other time periods thoughtof as a cult esoteric, metaphysical,
you know, And now those thingshave become a little bit more popular and
people understand it better. But youcan go and see drawing by Alistair Crowley

(01:25:21):
that we've talked about on this showbefore, which is essentially I think one
of the prototypes for what became thegray you know being, that image of
what gray being is. And that'snot my theory. I'm sure other people
have thought of that first. Butyou know, when it comes to this
idea of you know, alien beings, it's something that it's still talked about

(01:25:45):
with the account. I mean,you see these people who go and have
you know, big you know crowdsdrawn they buy tickets to go see them,
and allegedly they're channeling beings from Arcturiaor they're channeling the great galactic whup
who has you know, this womanwho he's a consort of, and she
speaks for him on this earth,and it's just it's interesting, you know,

(01:26:10):
I cannot say that I haven't listenedto that kind of stuff in the
past, and felt like there wassome kind of meaning that I derived from
it. Certainly interesting, but Iwouldn't live my life by it, and
I certainly wouldn't recommend people go outand seek this out unless it's called you
know, unless you're called to it, and if you are called to it,

(01:26:30):
you know, ask yourself why.I mean, for me, I
can say there's been points in mylife where I was very insecure and I
was looking for this sort of meaningoutside of me, and that it came
in the form of that for atime, and I, you know,
kind of gravitated beyond it after Igot all that was worthwhild and kind of
discarded the rest. I think that'skind of something people need to do with

(01:26:54):
a lot of the information we're talkingabout, is have that like Bruce Lee
approach where you can kind of wayyourself through different practices and take what works
for you out of it and leavethe response. You know, it's sort
of a martial arts allegory is kindof different, but it's definitely appropriate,
I think for you know, whatwe're talking about here. You know,

(01:27:15):
it can be kind of dark insome realms, you know, when you
want to find answers to what ourgovernment's been doing. I mean some of
these questions that I've asked and wereally can't say for sure. I mean,
you've done a great job at youknow, giving us the best you
know sources, and you've taken alot of time to come up with all
this, you know, research andtalk to the people who are in the

(01:27:39):
know. So I trust your opinionon a lot of this stuff. Righter.
I think your show is really,you know, top notch in this
realm. And you know, whenit comes to this spiritual overview, I
mean you kind of summed it upalready where you said, you know,
I believe in the experience of thisdimension that we're all participating, and you

(01:28:00):
know, some people would interpret thatas a religion in itself. I mean,
where does that differ for you?In your mind? How do you
see yourself as a as like anentity, as a being in this universe?
How would you classify it? Soit's an interesting question, Margaret,
I don't know. I think itjust came from you know, critical thinking

(01:28:23):
and critical thought and you know,common sense and you know, just trying
to put the pieces of reality togetherfor myself personally, you know, And
that's just my personal belief in mypersonal experience. It's not a fact.
You know, there's no proof forevidence to me saying that this reality is

(01:28:45):
just all about experiences. It's hypotheticalto theory and kind of what I based
my life off of. And it'shelped me right now, that's helped me
traverse through, you know, periodsof my life, right, you know,
because I realize that that's what it'sabout for me personally. Now,

(01:29:08):
you don't have to believe that.Anybody listening doesn't have to believe that.
You can believe whatever you want tobelieve. No, I am not here
to tell you what you should believe. You know, then I would be
Then I would be a cult,or that would be a religion. You
know. I'm not about that,you know. I'm just here to try
and expand people's thoughts and expand people'sideas and get to the bottom and to

(01:29:29):
the root of these subjects and thesematters. And some of the stuff might
be a hard pill for some toswallow, and it might challenge them,
and it might, but what itshould do is it should open your mind
up just a little bit to rethinkyour position on something. Right. Right,

(01:29:50):
It doesn't mean that you have totake on everything that I just said.
Doesn't mean you have to believe thateverything that I just said right though
the majority of everything that I said, there's evidence and documentation and real things
to back up a lot of whatI've said here today, but I think

(01:30:10):
they're the important thing to take awayhere is just to it's always important to
reevaluate your position and never be lockedinto any certain perception of reality, because
when you get locked into that,then you are disabling yourself the chance to

(01:30:31):
evolve, right, You're not givingyourself the ability to evolve into change and
go through a natural evolution of things. I mean, the things that I've
talked about here today is not whatI believed two years ago, not what
I believe three years ago, andit is not probably not what I'm going

(01:30:54):
to believe in two years from now. You know, it keeps going,
it keeps changing, it keeps evolving, And if we don't have that willingness
to change mark, then we're stuck, oh yeah, stuck in a box.
If we don't have the ability tochange our mind when a new perspective
or new information, or a newthought or a new idea enters, then

(01:31:23):
we're We're in an echo chamber.We're in an echo chamber of reality.
And it's never good to be inan echo chamber because everything just gets recycled.
You get yes people get yes manin your in your show, you
get you know, And that's whatsocial media has really done and all that.
And that's why I'm still, youknow, fighting to be on YouTube

(01:31:45):
because I want to be there,even though I'm not making any money,
though I'm not monetized, though Ican't get super chance, and I've never
been able and never been monetized,never year while I tried once, but
they denied me, said my contentwas full and dangerous, and it gave
me no examples of what was harmfuland dangerous. Yeah, but that's besides
the point. I like being therebecause it gives opportunity for other people that

(01:32:15):
you aren't a frequent listener to myshow, to listen to my show right
right. With a lot of theother platforms, it's their echo chambers.
Well, and we have to beon that sort of mainstream sort of battleground
if we're ever going to make anysort of sway with this information. I

(01:32:35):
mean, I think that's the coolthing that I understand about you and the
people in this community is you know, although there are a lot of people
who might be under a sort ofillusion, at the same rate, there
are just as many people like yourselfwho are fighting the good fight, essentially
and working towards this sort of higherideal of spreading truth from an authentic position

(01:33:00):
of like inquiry, rather than whatour social media seems to be incentivizing,
which is like, hey, agreewith me and come along this path of
ruin. Really, I mean itjust I think it all ends pretty bad
when you go down that realm ofconcern with what the outside world thinks of
you. You know, you don'tneed social media to see that. I

(01:33:21):
think that's existed throughout time. Orpeople get too caught up and how other
people perceive them, and you know, what you really need to do is
focus on yourself and focus on thisexperience that you're having. I think that's
a really beautiful silver lining to aconversation that's kind of dotted with what we
could consider maybe the darker aspects ofthe American culture. I mean, people

(01:33:46):
take the military for granted as theseyou know, altruistic heroes who just defend
us with their blood, sweat andtears, And although that is true in
some extent, and it may havebeen true during some historical time periods,
when you reconcile that now looking backwith all the things that have gone down
since, you know, nineteen ohone, I mean, it's just crazy.

(01:34:09):
I mean, I'm sure it goesback even further. But what we've
talked about today is definitely a peakbehind the curtain of you know, America's
kind of black budget what they don'twant us to know about. And an
effective way to keep people away fromthat is to give them a little taste
of it hidden in what they thinkis fiction, you know, And really

(01:34:30):
what you find is all of thisfiction has some kernel of reality that it
leads back to when you do thework of parsing it together. And you
do a great job of that onRace by Giants, Man, I gotta
hand it over to you as apodcaster to another podcast. So you have
some fantastic interviews, some really topnotch guests, and you do a great
job of preparing for that you know, situation each time with each guest.

(01:34:55):
So I gotta hand it over andcommend you for that, man. And
you know, given that we're comingup on the final top of the hour
here, what any final thoughts towrap up on, aside from you know,
promoting and plugging whatever you have inthe works. I know you said
you're going to be taking a shiftinto some different topics and what we talked
about today. You said before westarted recording that you're going to be diving

(01:35:17):
into the murky waters of Waco andseeing what's going on really with these situations
Ruby Ridge and Waco, and I'msure there's countless others that don't get nearly
enough you know, coverage situations likethis where our government here in our own
borders have you know, committed atrocities. I think I read through one of

(01:35:43):
my podcasts that I do Esoteric Americathat one of the first people killed in
the drug war was in the EmeraldTriangle in California. It's just someone growing
weed, you know, and theyended up getting shot by ATF for whoever,
you know, same place where JerryGarcia's father passed away. Actually,
it's a weird little connection there,you know, considering the grateful dead in

(01:36:05):
there, you know, connections toall these you know, weird government shady
operations. I mean, that's awhole another rabbit hole. But yeah,
man, what are your final thoughts? Yes, brother, thanks so much
for having me on. I reallyappreciate it, really enjoyed the conversation.
Yeah, I'm going to dig deepinto Waco and ninety three a few guests

(01:36:30):
lined ups, Waco survivors lined upfor May, beginning of May, and
I've just been really diving deep intothat, watching all that I can and
watching all the documentaries and you know, watching interviews from these people, and
it was just a topic that waskind of thrown at me, like it's

(01:36:56):
weird. I don't know if youever get it, like that mark where
you feel like you've done the topicthat you're studying justice, and then you
think to yourself, where am Igoing to go from here? Am I
going to dive into next? Andthen all of a sudden something just pops
up and then you just take afreaking nose dive into it and you're like
shit, as soon as that happened, like that with me all the time,

(01:37:19):
and I love it and I'm verythankful for that. So think you
universe keep doing that, because everytime I think, man, where am
I What am I going to do? Now? I've I've done with the
Stargate stuff. I've interviewed a lotof those people. I'm not really interested
in the UFOs or the contact peopleanymore, you know, because I more

(01:37:42):
than likely know what it is.You know, I'm done with the Secret
Space program. I've exposed that enough. You know, Corey Good did his
own exposing on that, and youknow where am I going to go?
You know what am I going todo? And almost every time, dude,
it's so weird, it's so weird. Always think to myself, I'm
like, I'm just gonna hang itup. You know, I'm just gonna

(01:38:06):
stop doing it. You know,like there's not really a point if I
don't find something fascinating and there's notsomething to dig deep into, and I'm
not just gonna put out content justto put out content. That's not my
thing. I'm never going to dothat. I've done a few of those.

(01:38:27):
I've done a few of those episodeswhere I felt like I had to
put it out like I had todo a show. Those are some of
my worst episodes and I regret doingthem every time. Not the guest or
it's just the effort. I Oh, yeah, I understand, especially when
you're putting out podcasts at the ratewe both do, you know. You

(01:38:49):
you know, we try our best, but some episodes just aren't going to
be as great as others. ButI hear you. I've felt like I
could have done way better on thatone. Yeah, I hear you.
Yeah, whenever it becomes something thatyou feel like you have to do,
like, I'm just I'm not goingto do it. I'm not doing that
anymore. You know. I'm ata point where if I feel like I

(01:39:12):
have to do something, I'm justnot going to do it. Yeah.
So with this Waco topic, Ireally just landed at about him and my
feet, and I'm like, holyshit, and then I just started digging
into it. I'm trying to youknow, I'm watching all the court cases,
all the different court proceedings, thecivil suit, the criminal suit,

(01:39:36):
and you know, there's like hoursand hours and hours of all this stuff.
Dude. So it's a beautiful topicand I'm really gonna dive deep into
it because there's so much going on. It's almost as convoluted as JFK.
It's convoluted as nine to eleven.It's like one of these events that it's
just like the more you're digging intoit. The more research you're doing,

(01:40:00):
the more questions not arise. Youknow, there's so many things happening.
The ATF was involved, the FBIwas involved, Hostage rescue and negotiations were
involved, you know, and it'slike, why why were they why were
they even there in the first place? What laws were they breaking? All
right? I mean, as faras I know, they they talked the

(01:40:21):
guy into sawing off a shotgun.Unless that's the Ruby ridget, I'm just
okay. Yeah, So I'm excitedto get the refresher. I mean,
I've learned some of it. Obviously, I don't have it all memorized,
but yeah, I'm excited to seewhat you uncover. Man. And you
know, as as time moves onand you lose, you know, interest

(01:40:44):
in one subject, I think synchronicityis going to keep pulling you back in
because you're a good researcher. It'skind of like you know the action movie
trope where the old gun you know, gets that call and he's like,
um, not coming back, butthey're like, no, trust me,
this is a good job. Weneed you. You're the only guy for
the job. You know. That'skind of with oppression I got when you
we're describing that, and I say, good on you man. You know,

(01:41:08):
if your intuition is calling, there'sa reason for it. Well,
I have to make a change.I have to make a switch. Yeah,
you know, I have to dosomething different. Absolutely, I can't
keep going down this road of Lulustuff because I really feel like, honestly,
man to man here that I figuredit out for me personally. You

(01:41:30):
know, I know what's going on. So there's no point in, you
know, beating a dead horse andalso finding legitimate guests to come on and
talk about this stuff is becoming harderand harder and harder and harder as time
goes on. Imagine you run outof sources. Yeah, and people pass
on. You know. I've reachedout to plenty of publishers who just come

(01:41:54):
back with that, Oh no,that author passed away five years ago.
I'm like, oh, shoot,I was five years late. But yeah,
no, I hear you, man. Well, so yeah, I'm
taking a turn on that. Butyeah, be looking for that in May,
and anybody that wants to come overto my channel, You're more than
happy. Yeah, be sure tosubscribe to Mark's Channel two and hit the

(01:42:14):
thumbs off, We'll share or whateverit is that will that will help him
out. Sharing. Sharing our contentliterally is the only way that we can
really grow. I mean, yeah, that's you know, none of these
platforms are doing us any favor,so you know, click the share.
But if you're if you like whatI said, if you thought that it
was interesting, or even if youhated it, it doesn't matter. You
can. Don't think anybody's hated it. I think you're doing great, and

(01:42:39):
yeah, I hit the notification button. Two. That's what everybody's saying now.
With YouTube, so everything's raised bygiants, right, people could search
raised by giants on YouTube, they'llfind you. Do you have a website
they can go to for all thisor or just the podcast in the channel.
No, I don't want to haveYouTube and raised by giants. Rock
Fan raised by giants, Odyssey raisedby giants. And I think that I'm

(01:43:00):
on Rumble somewhere, but it's justconnected to my YouTube, so I don't
really get on there much. Cool. I don't hand all of the podcast
platforms anywhere you listen to podcast I'mon. So yeah, let's where you
can find me. You find meon Twitter. Raised by Giants eight and
Instagram and Raised by a Giant spotAnd thanks so much, brother, really
appreciate it. Wonderful conversation and I'dlove to do it again anytime you're available,

(01:43:23):
brother, absolutely. Yeah. LikeI said, I want to get
updated on all that goodness that issurrounding Waco goodness, badness, you know,
and the ugly all of it.So we'll talk about that, you
know, made me in a fewmonths when you're ready, once you've absorbed
a lot of that info. Andyeah, anytime you want to have me
on if you ever want to takea break from whatever you're researching, I'm

(01:43:45):
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All right, ladies and gentlemen,thank you so much for tuning into
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sure to go and check him outat the Raise by Giants podcast. Of
course, if you're on rock Finyou can find him and this channel there

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for one low price, one monthlyfee and you get access to Raise by
Giants. My family thinks I'm crazy, Sam Tripoli, Eddie, Bravo,
Esoteric Eddie, Everybody's on rock Fango check him out. And yeah,
thank you so much for listening alot of interesting stuff in this episode.

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I must admit I heard Rider doso well on Tinfoil Hat that I just
had to get on this show againto get back into it because it is
so fascinating. We might have talkedabout some of this stuff on his previous
interview here on this show, buteither way, if you haven't listened to
that, go back and listen tothat right now. Be sure to look

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forward to the next time that he'llbe on the show. Sounds to me
like he's going to be switching thingsup and going down a new avenue of
research, which is cool. Givesus another reason to have him back on
the show down the line, Solook forward to that and until then,
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episodes, get access to the newseries, which I must apologize. I've
been delaying that project and I willget back to it this month, so
don't worry. There will be episodetwo coming soon. And yeah, that's
all we got for this episode.I got to give a big, huge
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use the promo code Crazy. Also, the Aquacure, I guess yesterday was
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ten percent, five percent somewhere likethat. So if you're thinking about getting
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know if they'll still honor it.But just give it a shot, say
hey, sorry I miss the missthe date. Does it still apply?
I don't know. I don't know, but either way, we're happy to

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support George Wiseman and the Aquacure andbe sure to be on the lookout for
a future update on my use ofthe Aquacure, so that'll be coming up
very soon. But the hit kitis something I use daily. Anytime we
leave the house if I'm planning onsmoking, whether I'm going for a hike

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or just cruising around whatever, Ibring my hit kit with me because I
am always losing my lighters and Ihave never once lost a hit kit because
it's just too cool. You can'tforget where it is. Unlike a lighter.
It's not going to just fall offyour lap and disappear into the street
somewhere as you get out of yourcar. I know that's happened to you,

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it's happened to me. Get ahit kit, keep it all safe
and sound, and yeah, that'sit. That's all I gotta say for
today, folks. We got anew episode coming out Wednesday. It's gonna
be a little different then what we'reused to on this show. A little
bit of a different topic, butwe still get into conspiracies. So don't
be dismayed if you see that andyou're like, oh, what's this have

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to do with anything? Well,I promise you it's going to be an
interesting episode. So stay tuned forthat and until next time, Folks,
immerse yourself in the moment, whereveryou are in the now. Fuck,
man, I think I think I'mfucking peaking right now. Wait, I'll

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peaking through the curtain. Sells outof service? Can which you go on
the circuit? I'll peeking through thecurtain. Nothing's a certain, but I
feel it like a purpose. Wait, I'll peking through the curtain, hardly
feeling like a person, but thevibe is perfect. I'll peeking through the
curtain and I think it's a certain, but I feel it like a purpose.

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Wait, my third eye is openingmy chok with going all seven channels
and my spirits floating knowledge, you'refeeling deeper than the ocean. It's the
eightfold path and the safe with lotus, I'm peeking flipping through a cashing records,
my egos decomposing like a leopard.I'm mega casey going some levitation so
with zero hesitation as I jump intothe spaceship. I'm weary from thinking like

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an earth fling. What's got thisdipping dive above the earth circling I'm spirvlingling
safe with geometry, studying in myold selves like a samthropology, honestly feeling
like life's a comedy as big agame as a paper run economy. How
the playing safe the safest for theweaker? Hard way? How peak and

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tear and everything apart way, howpeaking through the curtain sells out of service
can't reach me on the circuit.I'm peeking through the curtain nothing it's a
certain but I feel it like apurpose way. I'll peeking through the curtain
hardly, feeling like a person,but poles are perfect peeking through the curtain

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and I think it's for certain,but I feel it like a purpose Wait,
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the frequent things that keep me seeinglife inside of box small minds kicked brox
paning door or less time. Imight need a suit shift for this.
With the space I might stay andsee how Lucifer's food taste. I'm hungry

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for knowledge and hungry for infinite andevery time I'm peeking, I can see
it for an instant. I'm peekingthrough the curtain at the crowd. Sheep's
in their seats and the roofs onthe proud sit Guy's spear of form,
walking through the aisles, consumer risomliving in their vacant smiles. Now I'm
peeking through the curtain that the skyh and even gotta try gaining wisdom on

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the fly, I'm touching base withthings I can't explain, gods without names.
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of service can't reach me. Onthe circuit through I'm peeking through the curtain.
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perfectly through her. Peekin through thecurtain, and I think it's for certain,
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but the vibes perfectly through her,peeking through the curtain, and I
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