April 14, 2023 • 59 mins
Ryder Lee is a truth seeker and host of the show Raised By Giants and covers all aspects of Spirituality, to ufology, and mk ultra to secret space program, on his popular show Raised By Giants.
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I'm gonna hit my brand or mylogo if it'll let me. Okay,
hold on one a second. Heyguys, welcome back to another episode of
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the Typical Steptic podcast. I havewith me, like seriously, a really
fascinating guest with me tonight. Um, I have with me a real truth
seeker. I consider him to beum Head with Me rider Lee. He's
the host of Raised by Giants,and in his show he gets into a
lot of topics similar like we do, Secret Space program mk Ultra and nach
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Ufology, spirituality, and he reallydigs for the truth and I really respect
that. So because I think we'rein the times we're in, we're faced
with a lot of disinformation and uh, with all that said, I want
to give him a big warm welcometo the show. Writer, Thank you
for coming on my show. Howare you? Thanks so much for having
me on. Brother, really appreciateit. You're you're putting out all of
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the episodes, dude, it's crazycouple trying every single day. It is,
so it's commendable. I'm starting to, like I'm starting to question,
like what's what's real and what's notthough, Like I'm starting to I'm starting
to get to a point where I'mlike, I'm like, I mean,
like I'll have anybody on, butI'm just like I listen. I listen
to a couple of your shows,and uh, you, You and a
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couple other people got me thinking about, like, you know, maybe I
might switch up the way I dothings. I'm not sure yet, you
know what I mean, But likeI want to be I'm a truth seeker
for first and foremost, you knowwhat I mean. But I like to
be like art Bell as well,you know, like I like to put
out everything. But I don't knowwhat are your thoughts on what's going on
with like disinformation and misinformation and wherewe're at in the upology community. Well,
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it really seems like belief has overruledfacts and what some people consider to
be truth. Right, Belief hastaken a stronghold not only in this community,
but within everyday events that's happening inthis reality. And what happens when
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belief overrules facts and truth. Youget a lot of muddying of the waters,
right, You get people that wouldbecause I think belief is a very
powerful tool and it's been used reallyagainst us. I mean, if you
look through you know, ancient religions, you know, Christianity, even religions
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predating Christianity. You have the wholebasis, and their foundation is belief.
They have to believe in those stories. And right now, what we have
in the community is a bunch ofstories. It's just a bunch of stories.
And whenever those stories get put outand people believe in those stories,
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it becomes real. And that's whatI really think is happening is a lot
of people have just told stories uponstories, and then another person has come
in and compiled their information and theirown thoughts and their own ideas upon those
previously established stories, and then itgets presented as it being factual. But
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when you look back at it,there's zero evidence. There's zero proof for
a lot of these stories. Andyou look back and you look at you
know, Bud Hopkins in his bookMissing Time, he basically created the thought
in the idea of missing time,and that missing time was associated with alien
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abduction. You know, he alsoinvented screen memories as well. So when
that book dropped, everyone was like, oh my god, I have missing
time. I'm too, what's goingon? You know, it just creates
it within the community the same waywith gray aliens. Willy Streeper's book Communion
basically kick the door down of grayAliens. That book drops and everyone's like,
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oh, holy shit, gray aliensare everywhere. I'm seeing them now.
You know, it's a it's anegregor it's an egregorical reality that's being
put forward. And when you lookdown into the facts and the evidence behind
a lot of these things, yousee that they have just been created.
They've been created out of somebody's thoughtprocess. They've been created by their belief
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in them, and that's how itgets perpetuated. And then the snowballs,
and then that becomes a mythology withinthe community when the truth is much further
down to earth than extravagant nonsense.Twenty different alien species visiting nerth, messing
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with our DNA, extracting samples ofour genetic material. Well, guess who's
doing really doing all of that.I mean, it's apparent government, but
it's being blamed on aliens, right, because aliens is a perfect cover for
everything. It's an external thing outsideof yourself. Right, It's a boogeyman.
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It's like, how everything is theboogeman terrorism? You know? Twenty
twenty boogeyman, an unseen force thatnobody has any evidence for or any proof
for, is magically doing all thisstuff, tinkering with our DNA, trying
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to create a hybridization program. Wellthat's what the exactly what the government is
doing right now. They're trying tocreate a human two point out And just
look, how do you how doyou? How do you know that?
I mean, like, what doyou think is going on? What have
you found out? What do youlooked into? I gotta hear this.
This sounds insane, It sounds insane, it sounds amazing. Well, the
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first thing that I really delve deepinto was the mk ULTRA programs. I
read through all of the declassified onehundred and forty nine declassified mk ULTRA subprojects
from the CIA, and that's whenyou dig deep into that, you realize
that the whole mission of mk Ultrawas to read soldiers, people that have
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high up classified information, to takethose memories of that classified information and erase
it from their brains. Then itevolved, it turned into something else.
It turned into not only taking thosememories away from those agents. The first
studies were done on army intelligence personnel. It was a volunteer program. And
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I use a drug called busy whichis twenty times more powerful than LSD make
you go out of your head forweeks at a time. So I'm so
sorry. I don't mean to interruptyou, but can we hear a little
bit more before you get into this, Like what is this drug? I've
never heard of it? Like,is it's it? Is it a psychedelic?
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Or is it like? And theywere using it for to manipulate soldiers.
Yes, it was a drug.It's a psychedelic. You can type
it into your Google anybody that's uhwatching right now or listening, or you
can personally type it in type inbusy drug and it'll tell you all about
it. And you can even typein busy drug used on army personnel.
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Yeah, it'll tell you everything thatyou need to know about it. But
yeah, it was used as experimentation. And the soldiers they didn't know what
they were being experimented on. Theywere told that they were being experience.
They were going to be going toFort Dietrich, Maryland to experiment on new
weapons. They didn't know until theygot there that they were going to be
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drugged and that drug was the newweapon. So after they were like,
okay, well we can remove memoriesand thoughts from high up personnel to have
classified information so that they can livelike a normal life. Well then they
switched it up. They were like, okay, well can we plant thoughts,
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ideas, beliefs into the subject's headand make them believe something that didn't
even really happen. And they didthis in a few ways. One way
is called deep patterning, and deeppatterning is done to remove normal thinking patterns,
common sense, and critical thinking.So it's like a wipes your brain
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basically, and then they drug youand the common miscon stuff. And about
mk Ultra, it was that itwas just LSD and mushrooms. Well that's
not true at all. A lotof drugs came out of the m k
Ulture programs. Antidepressants came out ofthem, ka Ultra programs, Antipsychotic medication
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came out of them ka Ulture programs. Amphetamine came out of them k Ultra
programs, which is ouderall and riddling. And then guess what they give your
children whenever they're diagnosed with ADHD theygive you auderall or riddling. Yeah,
I was gonna say all these thenall these after this, all these drugs
get dissipated into our new society whichis now like so they had those MK
ultra programs in the sixties. Nowlook at our society today. Everything that
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you just named is a mainstream dragonart society, which should tell you something
about the state of our reality.Yep. So they would deep powder in
the person, they would drug them, and then they would use this technique
that's called psychic driving. What psychicdriving is a looped The official term of
what psychic driving was used for inan official capacity was a looped audio message,
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right, and it was played onrepeat, over and over and over
again to make the subject believe whateverwas on that tape. So you've been
deep patterned, you've had normal thinkingpatterns, a race from your brain,
critical thinking, common sense has beenerased. You're drugged, and then they
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have some kind of looped audio repeatedmessage. No one really knows what was
on those messages. It could beanything. It could be that you were
in space fighting aliens for twenty yearsand your age regrets back in time,
and then you were brought back tothe very point that you were taking you
know, and they would believe thatbecause of the trauma that they just endured
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through the deep patterning of their mindand then the drugging that they just went
under. And I'm like, okay, well, if they can do that
with a looped repeated audio message,what keeps them from reeling in a TV
doing the same thing but with visuals. What keeps them from putting a headset
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of some sort some kind of virtualreality technology over the subject's head that would
really induce an experience. You wouldreally believe that that happened. If you
were traumatized to the point that itremoves normal thinking patterns, and you're drugged,
and then you have a headset putover your head to give you a
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visual representation along with audio whatever wason, whatever would be on that virtual
reality simulation, you would more thanlikely believe Yeah, yeah, that makes
sense. I agree. So thenwe see that now in our reality,
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we not only see the traumatization ona collective level. To deep powdern us
to uproot our lives right, justlike in twenty twenty they uprooted everyone's lives
right. No one was working,no one was able to do the things
that they were normally able to do. That's the ultimate deep patterning technique.
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And I looked up statistics on theamount of people in the United States.
I don't know about other countries.I didn't look up anything about other countries,
just specifically the United States. Howmany people in the United States was
on some sort of pharmaceutical drug.I've seen a study from two thousand and
fourteen to two thousand and sixteen,and in that study I said eighty,
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well forty eight percent of the UnitedStates population is on some sort of pharmaceutical
drug, almost half, almost halfthe United States population. And I guarantee
you in eight years later, seveneight years later, that number member has
increased dramatically. There hasn't been anyrecent studies. This makes me think that
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this has to do with something withthe Nazis, because, like I don't
know if you like believe, likemy interview with Dan Willis, but Dan
talks about how not just how theybrought the Nazis over from paper Clip,
but that you know, it wascalled worldview warfare, where they tried to
implement their their strategy of warfare onour society, and that was by doing
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things like this, by introducing drugsinto the society. So if that's true,
then that plan would be working butdo you believe that or do you
think that's a possibility. I thinkthat there's a lot of German Nazi influences,
not only from the scientists, andthere are Space tax and everyone that
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we brought over from Project Paperclip.I believe the numbers were staggeredly higher than
what they say. They say thatonly two thousand came over. I believe
that it's probably closer to fifteen thousandor twenty thousand. Personally, no proof
for that, But it wasn't justthose types of people. See mk Ultra
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started um the modern day version ofmk Ultras started in Germany with Joseph Mangela,
and so they already knew what wasgoing on there. And then I
personally believe that it was a Thisis where things get really convoluted in the
mystical nature of these people signing acontract with extraterrestrials, Eisenhower signing a contract
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with Gray Aliens to in an exchangefor some kind of technology. I don't
believe that was with Gray Aliens.I believe that was a contract with Germans.
That was a contract with the Nazis. So do you believe all?
I'm sorry, like, do youbelieve we've I mean, because like I
believe we've been visited. I can'tprove it, but I think we had
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some kind of extra tragical influence onour past. I don't know how to
prove it. I can't prove itto you, but it just seems like
there's something going on that's not human. I don't I don't know. You
know what I mean. Well,I think the ancient past and the ancient
text again our literal interpretations. Idon't think that actual beings came down here
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and started manipulating our DNA and changingus on any kind of genetic level.
I think that it was a consciousnesschange, that it was an evolution of
consciousness that happened. It's sort oflike two thousand and one, a space
odyssey, right with the monolith.If the monolith wouldn't have come to those
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monkeys, then they wouldn't have youkilled each other and when all crazy and
all that, right, So Ilooked at that as an evolution of consciousness.
Now, whether that's a regression ora progression of consciousness doesn't really matter.
I think that it changed on somekind of level and doesn't necessarily mean
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that beings legitimately came here, physicalbeings came here and physically manipulated and altered
our DNA. I think that itcould have been done just naturally. I
think that we could have our consciousnesscould have evolved naturally. And this gets
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into you know, where we aretoday. I think that the whole technology
aspect of this whole thing is tryingto shortcut the natural evolution and the natural
progression of humans on the planet byincorporating us with technology, by making us
robots, by you know, gettingsome kind of robotic augmentation into our body.
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They're wanting to shortcut this natural evolutionpath that we would normally be going
down. See. I think thatwe have all of the ability to do
fantastical things. I think that we'revery psychic individuals. I think that we
can use telepathy. I think thatwe can remote view, I think that
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we can actual travel. I thinkthat we're very inundated with all of these
spiritual abilities. But the ones thatare in charge, which I believe are
absolutely human, it's just humans doingit to Humans don't want us to evolve
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naturally. They because they want control. They want to control humanity. And
if we go down this natural evolutionpath, we won't be able to be
control. So therefore they're like,Okay, well we'll give them robotics,
we'll give them technology, we'll givethem phones, we'll give them computers,
and then some kind of insert technologyto in order to control them. I
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think it's what's happening. Yeah,and so okay, well let's go back
to this. You we were startingwith Eisenhower and then I kind of got
you have tracked. I'm sorry aboutthat. Like I wanted to see what
she said about that, because whatI think is far as like UFOs is
I think you might be honest something, but I think like that the UFOs
had to come from somewhere, whethermaybe that was I don't I don't know
if that's reptilians or I don't knowif they exist or I don't know what's
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real. But like I'm just sayinglike they had to come from somewhere,
you know, like from and Ithink that's from an outside source that's not
human. Like again, I can'tprove it, but I mean there's so
much that we don't know. That'swhy I do this because I want to
know the answers. You know,and I think you're the same way.
You want to know the answers,but it's just like, how do we
get there in a logical, rationalway? Right? Well, I think
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that the UFO phenomenon has been servedas a as a huge cover up,
and it's been our fault. We'vecontinuously perpetuated the extraterrestrial hypothesis because whenever we
as are as a human being,see something in the sky, we automatically
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think that it's extraterrestrial. We automaticallythink that it's something from off of our
planet, someone coming to visit us. And you know, my question is
why shouldn't the first question be Iwonder if this is from Earth? And
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what if this is from a previouscivilization, What if this is from some
ancient beings that's lived here for thousandsof years already, or what if this
is us? What if this isour military? You know, when you
look at the evolving nature of UFOs, it's wild because in the forties,
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fifties, sixties, seven and d'sit was all disc shaped, tin canned
craft. But in the last thirtyto forty years it's evolved, it's turned
into something different. You know,what's the explanation there? Where they did
the aliens and extra trestrials just comehere and crappy tin can craft and mess
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around for a little bit and crasha bunch of their craft and all that,
and then go back and then avery speedy amount of time develop lightships
and plasma morphing craft and cloaking technology. That doesn't make any sense, but
when you take it to the humanlevel, that it's the military that has
been us the entire time and wehave created this craft, then you start
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to get a different perspective. Andwhen you research back, you look at
the Sonara Aero Club in the mideighteen hundreds in northern California. They were
creating what some would call anti gravitycraft using a green spinning mercury. Walter
Bosley has written several books about this. And then you look back at the
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newspaper articles of that time, you'llsee that people are seeing weird things in
the sky. And you fast forwarda little bit to the Nazis in Germany
during World War Two, the Glocabell technology. They were doing almost the
exact same thing verbatim, but theywere using a red spin mercury, well,
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not the Hanabu. The Gloca isdifferent than the Hanabu. Doctor Joseph
Farrell has written several books about theGlaca bell technology. But when they were
using the exact same type of technologythat the Scenario Club was using in northern
California in the mid eighteen hundreds,and they were using a red spinning mercury
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fuel additive to let the bell technologylift up off of the ground. And
that's basically all that the glocka belldid. And it had to have a
lot of electricity running to it inorder for it to be able to lift
up off of the ground. TheHanna buoz are something different, and I
don't believe that the Hanna booz hasever been proven. The only thing that
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has been proven it has been theglocka bell tech. But then you look
at everything that happened after World WarTwo, after the war ended, Right,
you have nineteen forty seven Roswell crash, you have nineteen fifty two Washington
flap event, you have nineteen sixtyfive Kecksburg event. Yeah, and after
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all of these events, the military, there's always some high up official that
comes out and size to the publicis like, hey, listen, we
have absolutely no reason to believe thatthis has anything to do with extra terrestrials.
They say that every single time.But the problem that's occurred is that
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there's been so much distrust that's mountedagainst the government and through ot of organizations
in the military, that even whenthey're telling you the truth, the people
in this community and people abroad don'tbelieve them, right, So it's become
this conundrum. Even if they wouldcome out and say, oh, hey,
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it's just exactly like in twenty twentywhen they came out and said,
oh, hey, these um UFOsare actual, real unidentified flying object,
no one cared. It didn't matteranymore because people had been thinking that they've
been covering that up since nineteen fortyseven with the Roswalt event. Right,
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that's where it all sparked from.Everything leads back to Roswelt. Oh it
was they were no way that theywere telling the truth, no way that
that was a German special access program. Nobody had the need to know that.
It was that it was an advancedcraft that we were creating that we
were responsible for that crashed. Hadto be aliens, had to be extraterrestrials,
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and the cover up was about themnot releasing the advanced technology that they
were working on you. Fast forwardto sixty one with the Betty and Barney
hillcase. Barney said his first statementswere that it was the military that abducted
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them, and it wasn't until afterhe said he saw military officers and military
uniforms, and it wasn't until afterBetty got regressed and his thoughts and these
ideas planted in the Betty's head.Oh and as simple as this, the
regressionists can be because you're in avery relaxed state, You're in a a
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very impressionable state whenever you're being regressed. Right, You're question, I guess,
say, where did you hear that? Benny Barney Hill said, he
said you the military abducting first.I've never heard that, but I believe
you. I'm not doubting you.I just want to know, like where
you source that from because I've neverheard that before. Yeah, that was
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Jay Widner, Walter Bosley, andShane the Ruiner. All three told me
the same thing. That's interesting.That's that's something that that's definitely something to
think about, you know. Imean, apparently it's very difficult to find.
I've tried looking forward to, butI think that it was a a
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cover up on their in because theywanted it to be aliens and they wanted
to cover up that the military wasthe ones that we were actually going out
and abducting people. I mean,it was like the entities that they drew
and the sketches they look very similarto military personnel. I believe you.
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Like what I'm saying, Why wouldthe military do this? What's the whole
reason that they would go out andabduct people in a craft that like a
spaceship and make it look like aliens. It doesn't make it. I mean,
it's just like, why would they? I mean, it doesn't.
I mean, it makes sense,but it doesn't make sense, you know
what I mean, Like, Idon't understand why they would go to those
lengths to do that. I haveto ask the question. Yeah, I
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think that it has something to dowith some kind of genetic manipulation, genetic
alteration of the species, or somekind of um taking of genetic material and
they just can't do that like outin the open what I mean, which
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they have which we don't hear ofabduction abductions anymore, Right, That's what
you know. I personally believe thattwenty twenty was all about was getting our
genetic material, right, That's whatthe whole thing was, you know.
Um, I think a race likewith this, like they're they're building a
separate human race with these genetic material. I think it's a high possibility,
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yeah, or changing our genetics andour DNA on a certain level to create
a new human race. I mean, when we look back through the um,
the ancient text and all that,we see that there are many rises
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and falls of civilizations, you know, and it seems like something always screws
up and we go back down,like we're taking back to the Stone ages,
you know, and we have todo all of this all over again,
you know. And I think thatwe're we might possibly be approaching that
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point in time. So if afew people survive, they have all the
genetic material the DNA of the majorityof the population of the planet, which
they now have. It was veryhard to avoid any testing, right,
Very few people were able to avoidtesting, you know, even if it
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was weird about those abductions. Idon't know if you remember this, but
I've looked into the abduction phenomenon alot, and like the information you're presenting
is very compelling because it really makesme think about think twice about it.
But what people would say about thoseabductions is that they would say that the
aliens would abduct certain types of people, like they said that they would abduct
like Celtic people and Native American forsome reason. Going back maybe to bloodlines,
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if that was the government, doyou think the government was looking for
certain bloodlines? Does that make anysense or no? Yeah, it's a
high possibility. I think high possibility. I mean there's you know, of
course, rumors and speculation that they'recreating human beings without the without a womb,
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that they're manufacturing human beings basically outsideof the womb. So highly possible,
highly probable that's the case. Yeah, So what are your thoughts in
on the SSP. Do you believethat these SSP people were just mk all
tread and like that or do youthink it's like, okay, well let
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me ask you this. I don'tI don't need to go off on those
people because like they have their storyand whether they're true or not, that's
one thing. But like, let'sput it this way, what is going
on? Do you think with theSecret Space Program? Like do you think
we're out in space doing things andlike um start like like solar Warden.
Do you think it's real? Like, do you think like we actually have
a secret space program. I thinka solar Warden was a previous code name
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for what Space Force later became,and it was a rudimentary type of program.
It didn't have anything to do withtime travel, opening up portals,
twenty in back programs, fighting aliensin space. I personally believe that the
twenty M backers secret space program,super soldier people, that's all like a
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huge cover up for what we mightactually legitimately be doing in space, like
surveillance technology, putting nukes in space, tracking systems. You know, those
are the things that the government,through letter organizations in the military would not
want you to know about. Whatif they came out and said, oh,
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yeah, I guess what, wehave a nuclear command post in space
and it could be launched at anytime trip people out. So the easiest
way to avoid that altogether is tocreate a bunch of fairy tales to cover
up the real project, to coverup the real program, just like it
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served to cover up the Stargate project, which is a legitimate DA Army Intelligence
special access program to use remote viewersand psychics to collect intelligence data and foreign
assessments, just like it was usedto cover up looking Glass technology. And
they all talk about all looking glassesof technology to be able to see into
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the past, see into the future, and all this mystical wooboo stuff.
Well, Operation looking Glass is legitimatelya Air Force command spot command post with
the ability to launch nukes from Earthand the emergency that ground based command has
been rendered unusable or destroyed. See, they've taken real names of real projects
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and they've turned it into something thatit's not And the only purpose that that
would serve is to cover up thereal project so that people don't freak out.
Yeah, yeah, so it's all. It's all. So you're saying
it all points back to the governmentat some point, like you think,
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absolutely, I believe that they're fakeimplanted memories, fake implanted thoughts to disguise
what's really happening. And they it'swhat I've been labeling as a conspiracy burrito.
I mean, the secret Space Programassets and the super soldiers, they
all talk about the exact same thing, all of them. It's all.
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I was abducted by the military.I was taken to a military base I
was MK ultra mindfractured. Immediately afterbeing MK altered minufractured. I was taken
through a portal either in New Yorkor California. I was sent to Mars.
I was sent to the Moon.I served in five aliens for twenty
years, and then I was magicallyade regressed time travel back to the very
point that I was taking this Whatevery single one of them say, Yeah,
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that is true. So what areyour thoughts on? Like this is
a different subject, but that,I mean, we have time, so
I just want to get your opinion. What are your thoughts on like entities
like interdimensionals? Do you believe thatinterdimensionals exist, like that we can be
like, you know, like havingexperiences with you know, paranormal entities like,
um, what are your thoughts onall that? Well, that's a
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really interesting question. I think thewhen you look at the word interdimensional implies
that it's happening inside of your head. Right, interdimensional, It's happening within
you. You're going inside of yourselfto contact whatever it is that is residing
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within you. I think is whatmy definition of an interdimensional would be.
This is happening inside of your head, and you know, I in in
r you know, inner inner space, interdimensional. You know, it's not
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called outer dimensional. It's not happeningoutside of yourself, it's happening within you.
Now, I do think that there'sa connection here between paranormal phenomenon and
remote viewing because I've looked through alot of the unclassified, declassified remote viewing
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documents. I've read through all ofthem. I had all of them sent
to me, read through basically everyone of them. In SRI, which
is Stanford Research Institute, talks abouta phenomenon that's called perturbation of objects,
which basically translates to remote teleco nisis, so you can remote view a certain
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area and then be able to movestuff around, which I think is very
interesting when it comes to like poulterGeist like entity activity as well, it's
kind of the same type of phenomenon. But yeah, people don't think,
well, this could be an actualhuman being doing this to me, this
has to be a ghost, Thishas to be an entity, a deceased
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human that has the ability to dothat. But I not necessarily, I
don't think. I think some ofthis phenomenon can actually be coming from a
human across the planet. It couldbe You're right, So what are your
thoughts on the afterlife? Do youthink it exists? Do you think we
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go to another place after here?Do you think we're just we turn into
dust. I think that energy can'tbe destroyed, it can only be trans
muted. And I'm under the personalbelief no evidence or no backing to this,
because you're asking me a you know, theological question. So I would
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say, I'm under the impression thatreincarnation is real and that you're constantly recycled
back onto the planet over and overand over again. And I think that
that's what If there is a possibilityof life on other planets, it depends
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on what planet you're born on.You're kind of just stuck there. I
think that it would be the sameway on any other planet. If there
is physical life on other planets thatcan sustain the three D physicality that we
can on this planet, it wouldbe exactly like us. They wouldn't be
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able to leave the planet either.They would be stuck there spiritually. Right,
what do you think holding us there? Like? What do you think
is keeping you think? It's likea lot of people think we're in a
soul trap. You know what Imean, like a lot of people say
that this is like you say thatwe're well you didn't say. I don't.
I'm not going to put words aboutbut like other people say that we're
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in a soul trap, that thisis like a prison planet, Like what
are your thoughts on that? Ireally don't know. And I think that
maybe having that kind of thought inthat um that idea might be doing more
damage than than it would be doinggood, right, because if you what
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would it would give us literally nopoint of even being here. That would
mean that there would be no reasonfor us to even be here in the
first place. If we're in atrap, we're in some kind of soul
incarnation matrix, then then what's thepoint of being here? That would mean
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that karma doesn't matter. That wouldmean that we're basically living in a bunch
of worthless lives, which I'm notruling that out. That's a possibility.
None of this is possible, thatnone of this even matters, how the
possible? Who knows? Yeah,I really don't know. Or talked about
that like that, like entities likethe archons feed off our loose you know,
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that could all be mythology, youknow, but it's still there could
be some truth to it as well. You know, there could be some
entity somewhere harvesting human DNA, notinduction. I'm saying like, like,
um, I don't know a soulsoul trap, reincarnation. I don't know.
I don't want to be that negative, but I mean, like,
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this world's pretty negative when you thinkabout it. Yeah, it really is.
I really don't have an answer tothat because I haven't been there.
I don't really know too much aboutit. I just kind of hope for
the best whenever it's my time topass over, and whatever happens happens.
But I think that we should havethe choice to remember if we were here
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before. Yeah, but I thinkthat's a part. I think that that's
a part of the If we areindeed in a trap, I think that
that would be a part of thetrap because if you came back here and
you remember your previous life, thenyou would do things completely different. You
would have already learned from that previouslife, and then you could basically become
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a master within four or five differentlifetimes, right, And they don't want
that. So I think that thatis that's a part of the stipulation of
coming here, and it makes itseem like it's a playground, experimentation kind
of planet, because if it wasn't, then we would be able to remember.
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But since we don't remember and we'rewiped, makes it seem like that
it doesn't really serve a higher purposeat all, and we're just kind of
here for the experience of being here. Do you have any thoughts on some
theory, some theory simulation theory.Oh yeah, I think that it's I
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mean, it's highly possible. Ithink that with more, you know,
quantum physics, and we're realizing thatalmost everything is pretty much made out of
code, so it's highly possible that, um, we're living in some kind
of virtual reality simulation type of world. Now, I don't know if it's
to the degree that some people thinkthat it is sort of like the Matrix.
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I don't know if it's like thatwhere the world has completely erupted and
it's non really non habitable, thatsome robotic force is taken over and then
whenever we get out of here wego to real life. I don't know
if it's exactly like that, butit's possible that this reality that we were
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currently in was made specifically for ushere, for us to live here,
which would be a form of asimulation. Yeah, it makes sense,
right. I'm trying to think whatother questions have I have a good one,
like, why why did you nameyour channel Raised by Giants? I
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think that's a good question. Anybodyever ask you that? Yeah, I've
had a few people ask me.Originally I wanted it to be the name
of my band because I was amusician, and then I had the name
for a really long time. Wantedto be a name of a band,
and then musically kind of fell away, and then I was like, oh,
hey, well I'm just gonna namethis podcast and this show Raised by
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Giants. And I'm super tall too, I'm six four. My whole family
is really tall, and like theshortest one out of my family on my
dad's side. My dad's like,I've interest taller than me, and all
of his brothers are taller than him. So it kind of made sense on
both of those angles that you know, I would call it Raised by Giants,
not only because I legitimately think thatI was raised by giants and all
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my family as tall, but Ithought that it was a cool band name
as well, I think that isI like the name a lot, but
like, what do you when youthink about the ancient text do you think
they might have been manipulated? Doyou think they're mythology or do you think
there's some truth to them, likethe stories of the Nepheleem, the fallen
Angels, the Anunaki, the Sumeriantext, the Hebrew text, the Ugaritic
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text, all that stuff. Likewhat are your thoughts on that? I
think that it's interesting, and Idon't personally believe that it can be taken
as historical fact. I don't believethat any text, or any religious text
can be taken as historical fact,because when you think about it, I
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don't believe that we were the samehumans that are here now that was here
back then. And then another questioncomes to my mind, is that what
makes us believe that all of thoseevents even happened here? Could they not
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have happened someplace else? I mean, there's no distinction of seeing this really
happened here. You know. Couldall of the planets in our solar system
been inhabited at one time? Maybemaybe we're the last ones, right,
We're the last ones in our solarsystem that has an an inhabitable planet.
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Everyone else wiped themselves out. Allthe other planets got destroyed. No physical
three D life on those other planets. Could not be possible that somehow those
beings traveled here and then they werewriting the stories of the things that happened
to them on their planet. Youknow, that's true, highly possible.
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We don't have it, Yeah,we have no idea. So it is
really interesting. I don't think thatany of them can be taking a face
value as them actually happening literally,just like I was mentioning earlier, I
don't think the literal beings came outof the sky messed with our DNA.
I think that there was a changeof consciousness. Um. I think that
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you know, the Bible, there'sproofs that the Roman Empire completely fabricated the
entire New Testament. They just wroteit from basically nothing, pre existing stories.
So they copied the Sumerian text theycopied they copied Dodtraye there Hass became
Noah's flood. They copied the numoIsh, they copied all the Sumerian texts,
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you know, like they really did. It's it's it's insane, I
mean, like I mean I guessyou have revelations and stuff like that.
I don't know where they got thatfrom. They probably just wrote it,
you know what I mean. Butlike, you know, I get what
you're saying. I know what you'resaying. Like it's like all it's all
really sussed. It's like it's reallysuss. Like it's like, um,
I don't know, but uh,well, this has been fascinating man.
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Like I just want to say,like I really respect your opinions. Like
I have a little bit different someopinions, but like who knows, right,
I mean, like we're here onthis earth and it's insane, you
know, Like so I'm here tohear everybody's story. Like that's the way
I look at it. Like,you know, like I don't know what's
going on. I really don't.I just know that the mud, the
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waters have been muddied. I knowthat, and I agree with you on
that the waters have been very muddiedand it's hard to see through. It's
hard to see clearly. Because ifthat makes any sense, it really isn't.
Really quick on my point of usnot being the same humans that have
been here since the beginning, Ireally don't believe that right, the people
that built these megalithic structures, thesepeople that I created the pyramids, that
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built the pyramids, that you createdall these fantastical architectures. I don't believe
we're the same people that are herenow. I don't just it doesn't compute
in my brain. We are adifferent version. I believe that there's been
different versions of humans throughout time,throughout the history of the planet. There's
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been different versions of us, andwe're getting ready to go into a new
version. Now, whether that newversion is harmonious and beneficial for everyone,
we'll have to wait and see.Probably not, But I don't think.
I think that that's the standard processand the standard procedure of the way that
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things work here. Right. It'sa duality and it's a polarity. You
have to have the light, youhave to have the dark. If you
don't have that, then you nolonger exist here on this planet in a
three D physical body. So anybodythat's wanting the rainbow light fairy tale piece
for everyone, no harm kind ofreality, it's not going to happen.
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It's never going to happen here becausethe reality is based on duality and polarity.
You have to have those opposing opposites, just like how anything works here,
you have to have opposing opposites electronsand neutrons, electrons and what's the
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other one. I can't think ofthe other thing that lets things work.
I think neutrons are electrons, mightbe atoms, but that's the basis of
our reality. It's it's literally impossiblefor things to be heaven on earth here.
Like some people are wanting it tobe like ascension into this five D
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reality where everything's rainbow light, unicornfairy tales. It's not going to happen.
You want five any of this.I know I agree with you because
I've experienced so much shit in thislife. I'm just being honest, like,
and it's never it's never. It'snever. It's never all all love
and life. It's always like someone'strying to shit on you. To be
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honest with you, you know whatI mean, Like it's always like it's
not just that, it's it's theworld finds ways to like screw you over,
you know what I mean, Likethe world finds ways the duality,
the world balances itself out, italways finds the universe finds balance exactly so
if it were to tip in onedirection really far, and that means that
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we no longer exist because the planetcan't sustain that kind of life. We
would be in a different um notto sound new age here, but a
different vibration, a different frequency wherewe are not for pysical three D beings
anymore, and that means that wecan't experience the things that we could experience
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in a three D physical reality.You have the whole range of things that
you can experience here. You canexperience pain and experience suffering, but on
the opposite end, you can experiencemoments of bliss. You can experience joy,
you can an extreme joy, anextreme happiness, and extreme love and
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an oppositen You get extreme suffering,right, but you can't experience that in
a higher density level. You can'texperience that in the five D not possible
because you're not a three D physicalbeing. Now, some duality might possibly
still be there, but it's notgoing to be to the extreme level that
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we have here. And I thinkthat's what makes us special here is that
we get this wide range of experiencesthat we can have. And that doesn't
mean that you don't get moments ofbliss that you don't get moments of happiness
that you don't get moments of love, but those moments should be cherished.
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You should really tell in those moments. And this idea that we can just
read all of the negative aspects outof this reality is completely unfounded because that's
not the way that this reality works. I think that the key here is
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just acceptance, acceptance of the waythat things actually run here. And when
you accept that, you can livelife to your fullest potential, and bad
things will happen. Shitty things happenall the time. I've had shitty things
happen to me, You've had shittythings happen to you. Everyone that's listening
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to this is how shitty things happento It just a part of being here.
But it's how you deal with thoseshitty things happening to you that makes
all the difference, or you cherishinglearnings, right, It's like, you
know, like I just went througha breakup to beyond, you know,
like and it was like it hitme hard, you know, and I
was like, and now I'm lookingat it more as like, well,
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I was a learning experience. Maybeif I would have acted a different way
or something or or maybe things wouldhave been different, you know. So
at least I know that now becauseif I was able to take that away,
then I look at it as alearning experience and not a loss.
And maybe that's just the way thatI'm covid with it, but I don't
know, you know, well,yeah, we all have have certain copy
mechanisms when we experienced laws. Imean, some people use the gym as
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a copy mechanism. Some people useshopping as a copy mechanism, ordering should
all day on Amazon dot Com andgetting twenty packages that you forgot you even
ordered delivered to your door the nextday. You know. People have food
as a copy mechanism, you know. And it's not to say that any
of those things are bad, andnone of those things are really bad,
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except you know, maybe like drugsand stuff or alcohol, you know,
excessive amounts of really anything can bedetrimental to you. But that's not to
say that that you're not going toexperience loss. I mean, lass is
just is literally just a part ofbeing here. That's a part of the
experience. I mean, it's inevitable. I mean, death is the the
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end of existence for us here personally. You know, there's no other more
factual thing that can happen to usother than death, and someone is going
to mourn you, you know,it's just the attachment to that. In
us being here, in this uhthree D physical body, we we inevitably
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lock into certain things. So thereforewhen we lose them, it's a huge
blow to us, you know.And at the same time, that doesn't
mean be distant from people. Thatdoesn't mean don't trust people, that doesn't
mean don't you know, I lovepeople. Just means be aware of the
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things that are going on around you, you know, in the willingness to
let go when you know certain eventshappen. No, that's the best explanation
that I can really come up with. And that went really deep. And
I'll just say I wasn't gonna saythat I took shrooms before this podcast,
so like this was this went reallydeep. I took a couple of caps
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before the show, like because Iwas like, I don't have to work
tomorrow, so I was like,I'm just gonna you know, I wanted
to see what it was like doinga live stream on shrooms. So here
we go. But I mean,this is really fun, you know,
Like this was this was awesome,man, Like, um, do you
have anything else you want to talkabout before we go over the night.
Just to really look into the tothese subjects, looking to the mk Ultra
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programs, look into the Stargate Project, I dive it deep into the stuff,
look into Operation Looking Glass, andresearch the things that you hear people
say on these shows. Uh,you know, whenever they hear something that
when you hear something that someone hassaid that you've never heard before, then
just look it up really quick.You can find all of these things that
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I've talked about on this show thatI didn't say was a part of my
personal beliefs or my personal thought ordidn't have didn't revolve around theology or you
know, uh, you know,my own personal opinions. You can research
all that type in mc culture.Look look through those one hundred forty ninety
classified MKA culture programs, look upthe Stargate Project. You know, dig
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deep into it. All of thedeclassified information is out there somewhere, and
you can really dig down deep intothe bottom of the truth, and you'll
see that a lot of these thingsthat people are talking about serves as a
cover up for real programs, realoperations that are going on. You know,
if everyone came forward that was apart of any kind of mk ultra
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program, they all collectively decided tocome forward, go to Congress, sue
the government for the trauma and thePA and everything that they endured. That
becomes a problem. That's a hugeissue, huge job. So what's the
next best thing to do to keepthat from happening. The next best thing
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to do is to get people talkingabout fairytale bullshit nine sense as a distraction,
and when people believe in that,it becomes real, so that the
real thing can be brushed under therug and no one will care about it
and they can continue doing their operationsand their experimentations out on the public.
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Like I mean, like if youlook at if you look at if you
look at the reason one of thereasons why I believe I still believe in
the abductions a little bit, becauseI believe that people are having experienced this,
so I think we differ there.But like if you look at like
just like Carla Turner, for example, she was an abduction researcher. I
really believe she was murdered. Butthere's a thing where our paths of might
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cross here. Maybe she caught ontosomething that the government was doing, and
that's why she got murdered. Youknow, I don't know that, but
I just put that together now,I just thought of it, you know.
But that is legitimately the only reasonthat anybody would ever be taken out
is if they're finding out some kindof real government cover up, some kind
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of classified information. All these peoplethat are in here talking about extraterrestrials,
abductions and all, they don't careabout that stuff because they know that it's
nonsense. They can talk about thatuntil the Carl's come home. No one
cares because they know that it's madeup. They know that it's fairy tales.
The only time that anybody ever getsin trouble, well, anytime anyone
ever gets taken out or murdered orassassinated, or dies suspiciously or gets suicided,
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is if they have uncovered some sortof classified government projects. And what
are your thoughts? Schneider, PhilSchneider, the guy, the Dulce bass
guy. Yeah, yeah, hewas onto something. I don't know what,
but I mean, like I can'tsay I don't know enough, you
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know what, But he said hesaw aliens, but then he got,
he got, he died, sowho knows what he was into? You
know, they found him suicide,it's it's, it's it's. I think
that he cut off his own finger, cut off his own hand and blamed
it on extraterrestrials. I'm pretty surethat was exposed. Yeah, I'm pretty
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sure that's exactly what happened. Ohmy god. All right, man,
this has been awesome. Mike.Well, can you tell everybody where to
find you and and uh and whereto find your podcast? And thank you
so much. I respect your ideasthat I really do. Thank you so
much, Thanks so much, brother, Appreciate you. It was a really
fun shot. Appreciate you all.Appreciate your show. You can find me
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on Raison by Giants, on YouTube, rock fan Odyssey, Rumble, and
all the different podcast platforms on Instagramat Raised by Giants, pot and on
Twitter at Raised by a Giant See. Thanks so much, brother, appreciate
you. All right, Thanks ruder, and have a good night everybody.
Oh I have another show coming outat eight o'clock just now. It's it
should be coming out. You shouldguys should get a notification so you guys
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want to tune into that too,you can and uh yeah, I think
we should be off. And Ithink he's spending I don't know why he's
doing that. I tried to endthe stream. It won't end all right,
Um, I'm all right, Ohthere we go, Okay, we're
off. Thanks man. Um,it won't end the broadcast. What the
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hell is going on here? Thisis
I'm gonna hit my brand or mylogo if it'll let me. Okay,
hold on one a second. Heyguys, welcome back to another episode of
(00:28):
the Typical Steptic podcast. I havewith me, like seriously, a really
fascinating guest with me tonight. Um, I have with me a real truth
seeker. I consider him to beum Head with Me rider Lee. He's
the host of Raised by Giants,and in his show he gets into a
lot of topics similar like we do, Secret Space program mk Ultra and nach
(00:50):
Ufology, spirituality, and he reallydigs for the truth and I really respect
that. So because I think we'rein the times we're in, we're faced
with a lot of disinformation and uh, with all that said, I want
to give him a big warm welcometo the show. Writer, Thank you
for coming on my show. Howare you? Thanks so much for having
me on. Brother, really appreciateit. You're you're putting out all of
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the episodes, dude, it's crazycouple trying every single day. It is,
so it's commendable. I'm starting to, like I'm starting to question,
like what's what's real and what's notthough, Like I'm starting to I'm starting
to get to a point where I'mlike, I'm like, I mean,
like I'll have anybody on, butI'm just like I listen. I listen
to a couple of your shows,and uh, you, You and a
(01:33):
couple other people got me thinking about, like, you know, maybe I
might switch up the way I dothings. I'm not sure yet, you
know what I mean, But likeI want to be I'm a truth seeker
for first and foremost, you knowwhat I mean. But I like to
be like art Bell as well,you know, like I like to put
out everything. But I don't knowwhat are your thoughts on what's going on
with like disinformation and misinformation and wherewe're at in the upology community. Well,
(01:57):
it really seems like belief has overruledfacts and what some people consider to
be truth. Right, Belief hastaken a stronghold not only in this community,
but within everyday events that's happening inthis reality. And what happens when
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belief overrules facts and truth. Youget a lot of muddying of the waters,
right, You get people that wouldbecause I think belief is a very
powerful tool and it's been used reallyagainst us. I mean, if you
look through you know, ancient religions, you know, Christianity, even religions
(02:40):
predating Christianity. You have the wholebasis, and their foundation is belief.
They have to believe in those stories. And right now, what we have
in the community is a bunch ofstories. It's just a bunch of stories.
And whenever those stories get put outand people believe in those stories,
(03:05):
it becomes real. And that's whatI really think is happening is a lot
of people have just told stories uponstories, and then another person has come
in and compiled their information and theirown thoughts and their own ideas upon those
previously established stories, and then itgets presented as it being factual. But
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when you look back at it,there's zero evidence. There's zero proof for
a lot of these stories. Andyou look back and you look at you
know, Bud Hopkins in his bookMissing Time, he basically created the thought
in the idea of missing time,and that missing time was associated with alien
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abduction. You know, he alsoinvented screen memories as well. So when
that book dropped, everyone was like, oh my god, I have missing
time. I'm too, what's goingon? You know, it just creates
it within the community the same waywith gray aliens. Willy Streeper's book Communion
basically kick the door down of grayAliens. That book drops and everyone's like,
(04:15):
oh, holy shit, gray aliensare everywhere. I'm seeing them now.
You know, it's a it's anegregor it's an egregorical reality that's being
put forward. And when you lookdown into the facts and the evidence behind
a lot of these things, yousee that they have just been created.
They've been created out of somebody's thoughtprocess. They've been created by their belief
(04:40):
in them, and that's how itgets perpetuated. And then the snowballs,
and then that becomes a mythology withinthe community when the truth is much further
down to earth than extravagant nonsense.Twenty different alien species visiting nerth, messing
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with our DNA, extracting samples ofour genetic material. Well, guess who's
doing really doing all of that.I mean, it's apparent government, but
it's being blamed on aliens, right, because aliens is a perfect cover for
everything. It's an external thing outsideof yourself. Right, It's a boogeyman.
(05:24):
It's like, how everything is theboogeman terrorism? You know? Twenty
twenty boogeyman, an unseen force thatnobody has any evidence for or any proof
for, is magically doing all thisstuff, tinkering with our DNA, trying
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to create a hybridization program. Wellthat's what the exactly what the government is
doing right now. They're trying tocreate a human two point out And just
look, how do you how doyou? How do you know that?
I mean, like, what doyou think is going on? What have
you found out? What do youlooked into? I gotta hear this.
This sounds insane, It sounds insane, it sounds amazing. Well, the
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first thing that I really delve deepinto was the mk ULTRA programs. I
read through all of the declassified onehundred and forty nine declassified mk ULTRA subprojects
from the CIA, and that's whenyou dig deep into that, you realize
that the whole mission of mk Ultrawas to read soldiers, people that have
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high up classified information, to takethose memories of that classified information and erase
it from their brains. Then itevolved, it turned into something else.
It turned into not only taking thosememories away from those agents. The first
studies were done on army intelligence personnel. It was a volunteer program. And
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I use a drug called busy whichis twenty times more powerful than LSD make
you go out of your head forweeks at a time. So I'm so
sorry. I don't mean to interruptyou, but can we hear a little
bit more before you get into this, Like what is this drug? I've
never heard of it? Like,is it's it? Is it a psychedelic?
(07:23):
Or is it like? And theywere using it for to manipulate soldiers.
Yes, it was a drug.It's a psychedelic. You can type
it into your Google anybody that's uhwatching right now or listening, or you
can personally type it in type inbusy drug and it'll tell you all about
it. And you can even typein busy drug used on army personnel.
(07:47):
Yeah, it'll tell you everything thatyou need to know about it. But
yeah, it was used as experimentation. And the soldiers they didn't know what
they were being experimented on. Theywere told that they were being experience.
They were going to be going toFort Dietrich, Maryland to experiment on new
weapons. They didn't know until theygot there that they were going to be
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drugged and that drug was the newweapon. So after they were like,
okay, well we can remove memoriesand thoughts from high up personnel to have
classified information so that they can livelike a normal life. Well then they
switched it up. They were like, okay, well can we plant thoughts,
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ideas, beliefs into the subject's headand make them believe something that didn't
even really happen. And they didthis in a few ways. One way
is called deep patterning, and deeppatterning is done to remove normal thinking patterns,
common sense, and critical thinking.So it's like a wipes your brain
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basically, and then they drug youand the common miscon stuff. And about
mk Ultra, it was that itwas just LSD and mushrooms. Well that's
not true at all. A lotof drugs came out of the m k
Ulture programs. Antidepressants came out ofthem, ka Ultra programs, Antipsychotic medication
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came out of them ka Ulture programs. Amphetamine came out of them k Ultra
programs, which is ouderall and riddling. And then guess what they give your
children whenever they're diagnosed with ADHD theygive you auderall or riddling. Yeah,
I was gonna say all these thenall these after this, all these drugs
get dissipated into our new society whichis now like so they had those MK
ultra programs in the sixties. Nowlook at our society today. Everything that
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you just named is a mainstream dragonart society, which should tell you something
about the state of our reality.Yep. So they would deep powder in
the person, they would drug them, and then they would use this technique
that's called psychic driving. What psychicdriving is a looped The official term of
what psychic driving was used for inan official capacity was a looped audio message,
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right, and it was played onrepeat, over and over and over
again to make the subject believe whateverwas on that tape. So you've been
deep patterned, you've had normal thinkingpatterns, a race from your brain,
critical thinking, common sense has beenerased. You're drugged, and then they
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have some kind of looped audio repeatedmessage. No one really knows what was
on those messages. It could beanything. It could be that you were
in space fighting aliens for twenty yearsand your age regrets back in time,
and then you were brought back tothe very point that you were taking you
know, and they would believe thatbecause of the trauma that they just endured
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through the deep patterning of their mindand then the drugging that they just went
under. And I'm like, okay, well, if they can do that
with a looped repeated audio message,what keeps them from reeling in a TV
doing the same thing but with visuals. What keeps them from putting a headset
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of some sort some kind of virtualreality technology over the subject's head that would
really induce an experience. You wouldreally believe that that happened. If you
were traumatized to the point that itremoves normal thinking patterns, and you're drugged,
and then you have a headset putover your head to give you a
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visual representation along with audio whatever wason, whatever would be on that virtual
reality simulation, you would more thanlikely believe Yeah, yeah, that makes
sense. I agree. So thenwe see that now in our reality,
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we not only see the traumatization ona collective level. To deep powdern us
to uproot our lives right, justlike in twenty twenty they uprooted everyone's lives
right. No one was working,no one was able to do the things
that they were normally able to do. That's the ultimate deep patterning technique.
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And I looked up statistics on theamount of people in the United States.
I don't know about other countries.I didn't look up anything about other countries,
just specifically the United States. Howmany people in the United States was
on some sort of pharmaceutical drug.I've seen a study from two thousand and
fourteen to two thousand and sixteen,and in that study I said eighty,
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well forty eight percent of the UnitedStates population is on some sort of pharmaceutical
drug, almost half, almost halfthe United States population. And I guarantee
you in eight years later, seveneight years later, that number member has
increased dramatically. There hasn't been anyrecent studies. This makes me think that
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this has to do with something withthe Nazis, because, like I don't
know if you like believe, likemy interview with Dan Willis, but Dan
talks about how not just how theybrought the Nazis over from paper Clip,
but that you know, it wascalled worldview warfare, where they tried to
implement their their strategy of warfare onour society, and that was by doing
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things like this, by introducing drugsinto the society. So if that's true,
then that plan would be working butdo you believe that or do you
think that's a possibility. I thinkthat there's a lot of German Nazi influences,
not only from the scientists, andthere are Space tax and everyone that
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we brought over from Project Paperclip.I believe the numbers were staggeredly higher than
what they say. They say thatonly two thousand came over. I believe
that it's probably closer to fifteen thousandor twenty thousand. Personally, no proof
for that, But it wasn't justthose types of people. See mk Ultra
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started um the modern day version ofmk Ultras started in Germany with Joseph Mangela,
and so they already knew what wasgoing on there. And then I
personally believe that it was a Thisis where things get really convoluted in the
mystical nature of these people signing acontract with extraterrestrials, Eisenhower signing a contract
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with Gray Aliens to in an exchangefor some kind of technology. I don't
believe that was with Gray Aliens.I believe that was a contract with Germans.
That was a contract with the Nazis. So do you believe all?
I'm sorry, like, do youbelieve we've I mean, because like I
believe we've been visited. I can'tprove it, but I think we had
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some kind of extra tragical influence onour past. I don't know how to
prove it. I can't prove itto you, but it just seems like
there's something going on that's not human. I don't I don't know. You
know what I mean. Well,I think the ancient past and the ancient
text again our literal interpretations. Idon't think that actual beings came down here
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and started manipulating our DNA and changingus on any kind of genetic level.
I think that it was a consciousnesschange, that it was an evolution of
consciousness that happened. It's sort oflike two thousand and one, a space
odyssey, right with the monolith.If the monolith wouldn't have come to those
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monkeys, then they wouldn't have youkilled each other and when all crazy and
all that, right, So Ilooked at that as an evolution of consciousness.
Now, whether that's a regression ora progression of consciousness doesn't really matter.
I think that it changed on somekind of level and doesn't necessarily mean
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that beings legitimately came here, physicalbeings came here and physically manipulated and altered
our DNA. I think that itcould have been done just naturally. I
think that we could have our consciousnesscould have evolved naturally. And this gets
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into you know, where we aretoday. I think that the whole technology
aspect of this whole thing is tryingto shortcut the natural evolution and the natural
progression of humans on the planet byincorporating us with technology, by making us
robots, by you know, gettingsome kind of robotic augmentation into our body.
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They're wanting to shortcut this natural evolutionpath that we would normally be going
down. See. I think thatwe have all of the ability to do
fantastical things. I think that we'revery psychic individuals. I think that we
can use telepathy. I think thatwe can remote view, I think that
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we can actual travel. I thinkthat we're very inundated with all of these
spiritual abilities. But the ones thatare in charge, which I believe are
absolutely human, it's just humans doingit to Humans don't want us to evolve
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naturally. They because they want control. They want to control humanity. And
if we go down this natural evolutionpath, we won't be able to be
control. So therefore they're like,Okay, well we'll give them robotics,
we'll give them technology, we'll givethem phones, we'll give them computers,
and then some kind of insert technologyto in order to control them. I
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think it's what's happening. Yeah,and so okay, well let's go back
to this. You we were startingwith Eisenhower and then I kind of got
you have tracked. I'm sorry aboutthat. Like I wanted to see what
she said about that, because whatI think is far as like UFOs is
I think you might be honest something, but I think like that the UFOs
had to come from somewhere, whethermaybe that was I don't I don't know
if that's reptilians or I don't knowif they exist or I don't know what's
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real. But like I'm just sayinglike they had to come from somewhere,
you know, like from and Ithink that's from an outside source that's not
human. Like again, I can'tprove it, but I mean there's so
much that we don't know. That'swhy I do this because I want to
know the answers. You know,and I think you're the same way.
You want to know the answers,but it's just like, how do we
get there in a logical, rationalway? Right? Well, I think
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that the UFO phenomenon has been servedas a as a huge cover up,
and it's been our fault. We'vecontinuously perpetuated the extraterrestrial hypothesis because whenever we
as are as a human being,see something in the sky, we automatically
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think that it's extraterrestrial. We automaticallythink that it's something from off of our
planet, someone coming to visit us. And you know, my question is
why shouldn't the first question be Iwonder if this is from Earth? And
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what if this is from a previouscivilization, What if this is from some
ancient beings that's lived here for thousandsof years already, or what if this
is us? What if this isour military? You know, when you
look at the evolving nature of UFOs, it's wild because in the forties,
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fifties, sixties, seven and d'sit was all disc shaped, tin canned
craft. But in the last thirtyto forty years it's evolved, it's turned
into something different. You know,what's the explanation there? Where they did
the aliens and extra trestrials just comehere and crappy tin can craft and mess
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around for a little bit and crasha bunch of their craft and all that,
and then go back and then avery speedy amount of time develop lightships
and plasma morphing craft and cloaking technology. That doesn't make any sense, but
when you take it to the humanlevel, that it's the military that has
been us the entire time and wehave created this craft, then you start
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to get a different perspective. Andwhen you research back, you look at
the Sonara Aero Club in the mideighteen hundreds in northern California. They were
creating what some would call anti gravitycraft using a green spinning mercury. Walter
Bosley has written several books about this. And then you look back at the
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newspaper articles of that time, you'llsee that people are seeing weird things in
the sky. And you fast forwarda little bit to the Nazis in Germany
during World War Two, the Glocabell technology. They were doing almost the
exact same thing verbatim, but theywere using a red spin mercury, well,
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not the Hanabu. The Gloca isdifferent than the Hanabu. Doctor Joseph
Farrell has written several books about theGlaca bell technology. But when they were
using the exact same type of technologythat the Scenario Club was using in northern
California in the mid eighteen hundreds,and they were using a red spinning mercury
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fuel additive to let the bell technologylift up off of the ground. And
that's basically all that the glocka belldid. And it had to have a
lot of electricity running to it inorder for it to be able to lift
up off of the ground. TheHanna buoz are something different, and I
don't believe that the Hanna booz hasever been proven. The only thing that
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has been proven it has been theglocka bell tech. But then you look
at everything that happened after World WarTwo, after the war ended, Right,
you have nineteen forty seven Roswell crash, you have nineteen fifty two Washington
flap event, you have nineteen sixtyfive Kecksburg event. Yeah, and after
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all of these events, the military, there's always some high up official that
comes out and size to the publicis like, hey, listen, we
have absolutely no reason to believe thatthis has anything to do with extra terrestrials.
They say that every single time.But the problem that's occurred is that
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there's been so much distrust that's mountedagainst the government and through ot of organizations
in the military, that even whenthey're telling you the truth, the people
in this community and people abroad don'tbelieve them, right, So it's become
this conundrum. Even if they wouldcome out and say, oh, hey,
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it's just exactly like in twenty twentywhen they came out and said,
oh, hey, these um UFOsare actual, real unidentified flying object,
no one cared. It didn't matteranymore because people had been thinking that they've
been covering that up since nineteen fortyseven with the Roswalt event. Right,
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that's where it all sparked from.Everything leads back to Roswelt. Oh it
was they were no way that theywere telling the truth, no way that
that was a German special access program. Nobody had the need to know that.
It was that it was an advancedcraft that we were creating that we
were responsible for that crashed. Hadto be aliens, had to be extraterrestrials,
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and the cover up was about themnot releasing the advanced technology that they
were working on you. Fast forwardto sixty one with the Betty and Barney
hillcase. Barney said his first statementswere that it was the military that abducted
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them, and it wasn't until afterhe said he saw military officers and military
uniforms, and it wasn't until afterBetty got regressed and his thoughts and these
ideas planted in the Betty's head.Oh and as simple as this, the
regressionists can be because you're in avery relaxed state, You're in a a
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very impressionable state whenever you're being regressed. Right, You're question, I guess,
say, where did you hear that? Benny Barney Hill said, he
said you the military abducting first.I've never heard that, but I believe
you. I'm not doubting you.I just want to know, like where
you source that from because I've neverheard that before. Yeah, that was
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Jay Widner, Walter Bosley, andShane the Ruiner. All three told me
the same thing. That's interesting.That's that's something that that's definitely something to
think about, you know. Imean, apparently it's very difficult to find.
I've tried looking forward to, butI think that it was a a
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cover up on their in because theywanted it to be aliens and they wanted
to cover up that the military wasthe ones that we were actually going out
and abducting people. I mean,it was like the entities that they drew
and the sketches they look very similarto military personnel. I believe you.
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Like what I'm saying, Why wouldthe military do this? What's the whole
reason that they would go out andabduct people in a craft that like a
spaceship and make it look like aliens. It doesn't make it. I mean,
it's just like, why would they? I mean, it doesn't.
I mean, it makes sense,but it doesn't make sense, you know
what I mean, Like, Idon't understand why they would go to those
lengths to do that. I haveto ask the question. Yeah, I
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think that it has something to dowith some kind of genetic manipulation, genetic
alteration of the species, or somekind of um taking of genetic material and
they just can't do that like outin the open what I mean, which
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they have which we don't hear ofabduction abductions anymore, Right, That's what
you know. I personally believe thattwenty twenty was all about was getting our
genetic material, right, That's whatthe whole thing was, you know.
Um, I think a race likewith this, like they're they're building a
separate human race with these genetic material. I think it's a high possibility,
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yeah, or changing our genetics andour DNA on a certain level to create
a new human race. I mean, when we look back through the um,
the ancient text and all that,we see that there are many rises
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and falls of civilizations, you know, and it seems like something always screws
up and we go back down,like we're taking back to the Stone ages,
you know, and we have todo all of this all over again,
you know. And I think thatwe're we might possibly be approaching that
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point in time. So if afew people survive, they have all the
genetic material the DNA of the majorityof the population of the planet, which
they now have. It was veryhard to avoid any testing, right,
Very few people were able to avoidtesting, you know, even if it
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was weird about those abductions. Idon't know if you remember this, but
I've looked into the abduction phenomenon alot, and like the information you're presenting
is very compelling because it really makesme think about think twice about it.
But what people would say about thoseabductions is that they would say that the
aliens would abduct certain types of people, like they said that they would abduct
like Celtic people and Native American forsome reason. Going back maybe to bloodlines,
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if that was the government, doyou think the government was looking for
certain bloodlines? Does that make anysense or no? Yeah, it's a
high possibility. I think high possibility. I mean there's you know, of
course, rumors and speculation that they'recreating human beings without the without a womb,
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that they're manufacturing human beings basically outsideof the womb. So highly possible,
highly probable that's the case. Yeah, So what are your thoughts in
on the SSP. Do you believethat these SSP people were just mk all
tread and like that or do youthink it's like, okay, well let
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me ask you this. I don'tI don't need to go off on those
people because like they have their storyand whether they're true or not, that's
one thing. But like, let'sput it this way, what is going
on? Do you think with theSecret Space Program? Like do you think
we're out in space doing things andlike um start like like solar Warden.
Do you think it's real? Like, do you think like we actually have
a secret space program. I thinka solar Warden was a previous code name
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for what Space Force later became,and it was a rudimentary type of program.
It didn't have anything to do withtime travel, opening up portals,
twenty in back programs, fighting aliensin space. I personally believe that the
twenty M backers secret space program,super soldier people, that's all like a
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huge cover up for what we mightactually legitimately be doing in space, like
surveillance technology, putting nukes in space, tracking systems. You know, those
are the things that the government,through letter organizations in the military would not
want you to know about. Whatif they came out and said, oh,
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yeah, I guess what, wehave a nuclear command post in space
and it could be launched at anytime trip people out. So the easiest
way to avoid that altogether is tocreate a bunch of fairy tales to cover
up the real project, to coverup the real program, just like it
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served to cover up the Stargate project, which is a legitimate DA Army Intelligence
special access program to use remote viewersand psychics to collect intelligence data and foreign
assessments, just like it was usedto cover up looking Glass technology. And
they all talk about all looking glassesof technology to be able to see into
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the past, see into the future, and all this mystical wooboo stuff.
Well, Operation looking Glass is legitimatelya Air Force command spot command post with
the ability to launch nukes from Earthand the emergency that ground based command has
been rendered unusable or destroyed. See, they've taken real names of real projects
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and they've turned it into something thatit's not And the only purpose that that
would serve is to cover up thereal project so that people don't freak out.
Yeah, yeah, so it's all. It's all. So you're saying
it all points back to the governmentat some point, like you think,
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absolutely, I believe that they're fakeimplanted memories, fake implanted thoughts to disguise
what's really happening. And they it'swhat I've been labeling as a conspiracy burrito.
I mean, the secret Space Programassets and the super soldiers, they
all talk about the exact same thing, all of them. It's all.
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I was abducted by the military.I was taken to a military base I
was MK ultra mindfractured. Immediately afterbeing MK altered minufractured. I was taken
through a portal either in New Yorkor California. I was sent to Mars.
I was sent to the Moon.I served in five aliens for twenty
years, and then I was magicallyade regressed time travel back to the very
point that I was taking this Whatevery single one of them say, Yeah,
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that is true. So what areyour thoughts on? Like this is
a different subject, but that,I mean, we have time, so
I just want to get your opinion. What are your thoughts on like entities
like interdimensionals? Do you believe thatinterdimensionals exist, like that we can be
like, you know, like havingexperiences with you know, paranormal entities like,
um, what are your thoughts onall that? Well, that's a
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really interesting question. I think thewhen you look at the word interdimensional implies
that it's happening inside of your head. Right, interdimensional, It's happening within
you. You're going inside of yourselfto contact whatever it is that is residing
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within you. I think is whatmy definition of an interdimensional would be.
This is happening inside of your head, and you know, I in in
r you know, inner inner space, interdimensional. You know, it's not
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called outer dimensional. It's not happeningoutside of yourself, it's happening within you.
Now, I do think that there'sa connection here between paranormal phenomenon and
remote viewing because I've looked through alot of the unclassified, declassified remote viewing
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documents. I've read through all ofthem. I had all of them sent
to me, read through basically everyone of them. In SRI, which
is Stanford Research Institute, talks abouta phenomenon that's called perturbation of objects,
which basically translates to remote teleco nisis, so you can remote view a certain
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area and then be able to movestuff around, which I think is very
interesting when it comes to like poulterGeist like entity activity as well, it's
kind of the same type of phenomenon. But yeah, people don't think,
well, this could be an actualhuman being doing this to me, this
has to be a ghost, Thishas to be an entity, a deceased
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human that has the ability to dothat. But I not necessarily, I
don't think. I think some ofthis phenomenon can actually be coming from a
human across the planet. It couldbe You're right, So what are your
thoughts on the afterlife? Do youthink it exists? Do you think we
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go to another place after here?Do you think we're just we turn into
dust. I think that energy can'tbe destroyed, it can only be trans
muted. And I'm under the personalbelief no evidence or no backing to this,
because you're asking me a you know, theological question. So I would
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say, I'm under the impression thatreincarnation is real and that you're constantly recycled
back onto the planet over and overand over again. And I think that
that's what If there is a possibilityof life on other planets, it depends
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on what planet you're born on.You're kind of just stuck there. I
think that it would be the sameway on any other planet. If there
is physical life on other planets thatcan sustain the three D physicality that we
can on this planet, it wouldbe exactly like us. They wouldn't be
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able to leave the planet either.They would be stuck there spiritually. Right,
what do you think holding us there? Like? What do you think
is keeping you think? It's likea lot of people think we're in a
soul trap. You know what Imean, like a lot of people say
that this is like you say thatwe're well you didn't say. I don't.
I'm not going to put words aboutbut like other people say that we're
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in a soul trap, that thisis like a prison planet, Like what
are your thoughts on that? Ireally don't know. And I think that
maybe having that kind of thought inthat um that idea might be doing more
damage than than it would be doinggood, right, because if you what
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would it would give us literally nopoint of even being here. That would
mean that there would be no reasonfor us to even be here in the
first place. If we're in atrap, we're in some kind of soul
incarnation matrix, then then what's thepoint of being here? That would mean
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that karma doesn't matter. That wouldmean that we're basically living in a bunch
of worthless lives, which I'm notruling that out. That's a possibility.
None of this is possible, thatnone of this even matters, how the
possible? Who knows? Yeah,I really don't know. Or talked about
that like that, like entities likethe archons feed off our loose you know,
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that could all be mythology, youknow, but it's still there could
be some truth to it as well. You know, there could be some
entity somewhere harvesting human DNA, notinduction. I'm saying like, like,
um, I don't know a soulsoul trap, reincarnation. I don't know.
I don't want to be that negative, but I mean, like,
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this world's pretty negative when you thinkabout it. Yeah, it really is.
I really don't have an answer tothat because I haven't been there.
I don't really know too much aboutit. I just kind of hope for
the best whenever it's my time topass over, and whatever happens happens.
But I think that we should havethe choice to remember if we were here
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before. Yeah, but I thinkthat's a part. I think that that's
a part of the If we areindeed in a trap, I think that
that would be a part of thetrap because if you came back here and
you remember your previous life, thenyou would do things completely different. You
would have already learned from that previouslife, and then you could basically become
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a master within four or five differentlifetimes, right, And they don't want
that. So I think that thatis that's a part of the stipulation of
coming here, and it makes itseem like it's a playground, experimentation kind
of planet, because if it wasn't, then we would be able to remember.
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But since we don't remember and we'rewiped, makes it seem like that
it doesn't really serve a higher purposeat all, and we're just kind of
here for the experience of being here. Do you have any thoughts on some
theory, some theory simulation theory.Oh yeah, I think that it's I
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mean, it's highly possible. Ithink that with more, you know,
quantum physics, and we're realizing thatalmost everything is pretty much made out of
code, so it's highly possible that, um, we're living in some kind
of virtual reality simulation type of world. Now, I don't know if it's
to the degree that some people thinkthat it is sort of like the Matrix.
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I don't know if it's like thatwhere the world has completely erupted and
it's non really non habitable, thatsome robotic force is taken over and then
whenever we get out of here wego to real life. I don't know
if it's exactly like that, butit's possible that this reality that we were
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currently in was made specifically for ushere, for us to live here,
which would be a form of asimulation. Yeah, it makes sense,
right. I'm trying to think whatother questions have I have a good one,
like, why why did you nameyour channel Raised by Giants? I
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think that's a good question. Anybodyever ask you that? Yeah, I've
had a few people ask me.Originally I wanted it to be the name
of my band because I was amusician, and then I had the name
for a really long time. Wantedto be a name of a band,
and then musically kind of fell away, and then I was like, oh,
hey, well I'm just gonna namethis podcast and this show Raised by
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Giants. And I'm super tall too, I'm six four. My whole family
is really tall, and like theshortest one out of my family on my
dad's side. My dad's like,I've interest taller than me, and all
of his brothers are taller than him. So it kind of made sense on
both of those angles that you know, I would call it Raised by Giants,
not only because I legitimately think thatI was raised by giants and all
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my family as tall, but Ithought that it was a cool band name
as well, I think that isI like the name a lot, but
like, what do you when youthink about the ancient text do you think
they might have been manipulated? Doyou think they're mythology or do you think
there's some truth to them, likethe stories of the Nepheleem, the fallen
Angels, the Anunaki, the Sumeriantext, the Hebrew text, the Ugaritic
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text, all that stuff. Likewhat are your thoughts on that? I
think that it's interesting, and Idon't personally believe that it can be taken
as historical fact. I don't believethat any text, or any religious text
can be taken as historical fact,because when you think about it, I
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don't believe that we were the samehumans that are here now that was here
back then. And then another questioncomes to my mind, is that what
makes us believe that all of thoseevents even happened here? Could they not
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have happened someplace else? I mean, there's no distinction of seeing this really
happened here. You know. Couldall of the planets in our solar system
been inhabited at one time? Maybemaybe we're the last ones, right,
We're the last ones in our solarsystem that has an an inhabitable planet.
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Everyone else wiped themselves out. Allthe other planets got destroyed. No physical
three D life on those other planets. Could not be possible that somehow those
beings traveled here and then they werewriting the stories of the things that happened
to them on their planet. Youknow, that's true, highly possible.
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We don't have it, Yeah,we have no idea. So it is
really interesting. I don't think thatany of them can be taking a face
value as them actually happening literally,just like I was mentioning earlier, I
don't think the literal beings came outof the sky messed with our DNA.
I think that there was a changeof consciousness. Um. I think that
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you know, the Bible, there'sproofs that the Roman Empire completely fabricated the
entire New Testament. They just wroteit from basically nothing, pre existing stories.
So they copied the Sumerian text theycopied they copied Dodtraye there Hass became
Noah's flood. They copied the numoIsh, they copied all the Sumerian texts,
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you know, like they really did. It's it's it's insane, I
mean, like I mean I guessyou have revelations and stuff like that.
I don't know where they got thatfrom. They probably just wrote it,
you know what I mean. Butlike, you know, I get what
you're saying. I know what you'resaying. Like it's like all it's all
really sussed. It's like it's reallysuss. Like it's like, um,
I don't know, but uh,well, this has been fascinating man.
(45:13):
Like I just want to say,like I really respect your opinions. Like
I have a little bit different someopinions, but like who knows, right,
I mean, like we're here onthis earth and it's insane, you
know, Like so I'm here tohear everybody's story. Like that's the way
I look at it. Like,you know, like I don't know what's
going on. I really don't.I just know that the mud, the
(45:34):
waters have been muddied. I knowthat, and I agree with you on
that the waters have been very muddiedand it's hard to see through. It's
hard to see clearly. Because ifthat makes any sense, it really isn't.
Really quick on my point of usnot being the same humans that have
been here since the beginning, Ireally don't believe that right, the people
that built these megalithic structures, thesepeople that I created the pyramids, that
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built the pyramids, that you createdall these fantastical architectures. I don't believe
we're the same people that are herenow. I don't just it doesn't compute
in my brain. We are adifferent version. I believe that there's been
different versions of humans throughout time,throughout the history of the planet. There's
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been different versions of us, andwe're getting ready to go into a new
version. Now, whether that newversion is harmonious and beneficial for everyone,
we'll have to wait and see.Probably not, But I don't think.
I think that that's the standard processand the standard procedure of the way that
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things work here. Right. It'sa duality and it's a polarity. You
have to have the light, youhave to have the dark. If you
don't have that, then you nolonger exist here on this planet in a
three D physical body. So anybodythat's wanting the rainbow light fairy tale piece
for everyone, no harm kind ofreality, it's not going to happen.
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It's never going to happen here becausethe reality is based on duality and polarity.
You have to have those opposing opposites, just like how anything works here,
you have to have opposing opposites electronsand neutrons, electrons and what's the
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other one. I can't think ofthe other thing that lets things work.
I think neutrons are electrons, mightbe atoms, but that's the basis of
our reality. It's it's literally impossiblefor things to be heaven on earth here.
Like some people are wanting it tobe like ascension into this five D
(47:53):
reality where everything's rainbow light, unicornfairy tales. It's not going to happen.
You want five any of this.I know I agree with you because
I've experienced so much shit in thislife. I'm just being honest, like,
and it's never it's never. It'snever. It's never all all love
and life. It's always like someone'strying to shit on you. To be
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honest with you, you know whatI mean, Like it's always like it's
not just that, it's it's theworld finds ways to like screw you over,
you know what I mean, Likethe world finds ways the duality,
the world balances itself out, italways finds the universe finds balance exactly so
if it were to tip in onedirection really far, and that means that
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we no longer exist because the planetcan't sustain that kind of life. We
would be in a different um notto sound new age here, but a
different vibration, a different frequency wherewe are not for pysical three D beings
anymore, and that means that wecan't experience the things that we could experience
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in a three D physical reality.You have the whole range of things that
you can experience here. You canexperience pain and experience suffering, but on
the opposite end, you can experiencemoments of bliss. You can experience joy,
you can an extreme joy, anextreme happiness, and extreme love and
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an oppositen You get extreme suffering,right, but you can't experience that in
a higher density level. You can'texperience that in the five D not possible
because you're not a three D physicalbeing. Now, some duality might possibly
still be there, but it's notgoing to be to the extreme level that
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we have here. And I thinkthat's what makes us special here is that
we get this wide range of experiencesthat we can have. And that doesn't
mean that you don't get moments ofbliss that you don't get moments of happiness
that you don't get moments of love, but those moments should be cherished.
(50:15):
You should really tell in those moments. And this idea that we can just
read all of the negative aspects outof this reality is completely unfounded because that's
not the way that this reality works. I think that the key here is
(50:36):
just acceptance, acceptance of the waythat things actually run here. And when
you accept that, you can livelife to your fullest potential, and bad
things will happen. Shitty things happenall the time. I've had shitty things
happen to me, You've had shittythings happen to you. Everyone that's listening
(50:57):
to this is how shitty things happento It just a part of being here.
But it's how you deal with thoseshitty things happening to you that makes
all the difference, or you cherishinglearnings, right, It's like, you
know, like I just went througha breakup to beyond, you know,
like and it was like it hitme hard, you know, and I
was like, and now I'm lookingat it more as like, well,
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I was a learning experience. Maybeif I would have acted a different way
or something or or maybe things wouldhave been different, you know. So
at least I know that now becauseif I was able to take that away,
then I look at it as alearning experience and not a loss.
And maybe that's just the way thatI'm covid with it, but I don't
know, you know, well,yeah, we all have have certain copy
mechanisms when we experienced laws. Imean, some people use the gym as
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a copy mechanism. Some people useshopping as a copy mechanism, ordering should
all day on Amazon dot Com andgetting twenty packages that you forgot you even
ordered delivered to your door the nextday. You know. People have food
as a copy mechanism, you know. And it's not to say that any
of those things are bad, andnone of those things are really bad,
(52:04):
except you know, maybe like drugsand stuff or alcohol, you know,
excessive amounts of really anything can bedetrimental to you. But that's not to
say that that you're not going toexperience loss. I mean, lass is
just is literally just a part ofbeing here. That's a part of the
experience. I mean, it's inevitable. I mean, death is the the
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end of existence for us here personally. You know, there's no other more
factual thing that can happen to usother than death, and someone is going
to mourn you, you know,it's just the attachment to that. In
us being here, in this uhthree D physical body, we we inevitably
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lock into certain things. So thereforewhen we lose them, it's a huge
blow to us, you know.And at the same time, that doesn't
mean be distant from people. Thatdoesn't mean don't trust people, that doesn't
mean don't you know, I lovepeople. Just means be aware of the
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things that are going on around you, you know, in the willingness to
let go when you know certain eventshappen. No, that's the best explanation
that I can really come up with. And that went really deep. And
I'll just say I wasn't gonna saythat I took shrooms before this podcast,
so like this was this went reallydeep. I took a couple of caps
(53:38):
before the show, like because Iwas like, I don't have to work
tomorrow, so I was like,I'm just gonna you know, I wanted
to see what it was like doinga live stream on shrooms. So here
we go. But I mean,this is really fun, you know,
Like this was this was awesome,man, Like, um, do you
have anything else you want to talkabout before we go over the night.
Just to really look into the tothese subjects, looking to the mk Ultra
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programs, look into the Stargate Project, I dive it deep into the stuff,
look into Operation Looking Glass, andresearch the things that you hear people
say on these shows. Uh,you know, whenever they hear something that
when you hear something that someone hassaid that you've never heard before, then
just look it up really quick.You can find all of these things that
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I've talked about on this show thatI didn't say was a part of my
personal beliefs or my personal thought ordidn't have didn't revolve around theology or you
know, uh, you know,my own personal opinions. You can research
all that type in mc culture.Look look through those one hundred forty ninety
classified MKA culture programs, look upthe Stargate Project. You know, dig
(54:51):
deep into it. All of thedeclassified information is out there somewhere, and
you can really dig down deep intothe bottom of the truth, and you'll
see that a lot of these thingsthat people are talking about serves as a
cover up for real programs, realoperations that are going on. You know,
if everyone came forward that was apart of any kind of mk ultra
(55:15):
program, they all collectively decided tocome forward, go to Congress, sue
the government for the trauma and thePA and everything that they endured. That
becomes a problem. That's a hugeissue, huge job. So what's the
next best thing to do to keepthat from happening. The next best thing
(55:38):
to do is to get people talkingabout fairytale bullshit nine sense as a distraction,
and when people believe in that,it becomes real, so that the
real thing can be brushed under therug and no one will care about it
and they can continue doing their operationsand their experimentations out on the public.
(56:00):
Like I mean, like if youlook at if you look at if you
look at the reason one of thereasons why I believe I still believe in
the abductions a little bit, becauseI believe that people are having experienced this,
so I think we differ there.But like if you look at like
just like Carla Turner, for example, she was an abduction researcher. I
really believe she was murdered. Butthere's a thing where our paths of might
(56:22):
cross here. Maybe she caught ontosomething that the government was doing, and
that's why she got murdered. Youknow, I don't know that, but
I just put that together now,I just thought of it, you know.
But that is legitimately the only reasonthat anybody would ever be taken out
is if they're finding out some kindof real government cover up, some kind
(56:43):
of classified information. All these peoplethat are in here talking about extraterrestrials,
abductions and all, they don't careabout that stuff because they know that it's
nonsense. They can talk about thatuntil the Carl's come home. No one
cares because they know that it's madeup. They know that it's fairy tales.
The only time that anybody ever getsin trouble, well, anytime anyone
ever gets taken out or murdered orassassinated, or dies suspiciously or gets suicided,
(57:07):
is if they have uncovered some sortof classified government projects. And what
are your thoughts? Schneider, PhilSchneider, the guy, the Dulce bass
guy. Yeah, yeah, hewas onto something. I don't know what,
but I mean, like I can'tsay I don't know enough, you
(57:28):
know what, But he said hesaw aliens, but then he got,
he got, he died, sowho knows what he was into? You
know, they found him suicide,it's it's, it's it's. I think
that he cut off his own finger, cut off his own hand and blamed
it on extraterrestrials. I'm pretty surethat was exposed. Yeah, I'm pretty
(57:58):
sure that's exactly what happened. Ohmy god. All right, man,
this has been awesome. Mike.Well, can you tell everybody where to
find you and and uh and whereto find your podcast? And thank you
so much. I respect your ideasthat I really do. Thank you so
much, Thanks so much, brother, Appreciate you. It was a really
fun shot. Appreciate you all.Appreciate your show. You can find me
(58:21):
on Raison by Giants, on YouTube, rock fan Odyssey, Rumble, and
all the different podcast platforms on Instagramat Raised by Giants, pot and on
Twitter at Raised by a Giant See. Thanks so much, brother, appreciate
you. All right, Thanks ruder, and have a good night everybody.
Oh I have another show coming outat eight o'clock just now. It's it
should be coming out. You shouldguys should get a notification so you guys
(58:44):
want to tune into that too,you can and uh yeah, I think
we should be off. And Ithink he's spending I don't know why he's
doing that. I tried to endthe stream. It won't end all right,
Um, I'm all right, Ohthere we go, Okay, we're
off. Thanks man. Um,it won't end the broadcast. What the
(59:07):
hell is going on here? Thisis
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