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(00:11):
M hmmm. Ladies and gentlemen,welcome another episode them off the record.
(00:32):
What's going on, ladies and gentlemen, Jay? What you doing? What
you're wearing? Same old, sameold, mister J just chilling with the
bandanna and a bad hair Day's good. I haven't seen my barber. I
don't have a bad hair days.It's the hairline really ros a little bit.
The situation to me about hairline.This guy get cleaned up. That's
(00:56):
all. And we got the itsofficial show was going on without without without
r ip. Tina turnin piece,Tina turned the piece. Man. That
woman led her life. She wasan easy life, eat the cake anime.
It's so messed up because when Iheard the news, man, I
(01:18):
thought I thought she died a whileago. Bro. I was like,
it was no, no, no, no, no no no no,
hold on, hold on, holdon. Yeah it was bad, Bro,
the whole story. Do you seedid you see this tone? I
put it up and he goes,Yo, this is bad. I said,
wow, it's up. He goes, I thought she died already.
I confused her with Houston. Ifelt, yeah, I wouldn't replay that.
(01:42):
I want to go back and like, did he just let me think.
Yeah, I'm like, damn,it feel bad to say this,
but I thought she died a whileago. Man, And I think she
would have died at eighty three,the long beautiful like she was eighty three.
Um she had I think it wasa liver problem. Um. She
announced a couple of year, maybea year ago. Um. She also
(02:07):
got away from being a US citizen. She just bought a five million dollars
band with her husband over and Iwant to say Europe. Somewhere in Switzerland,
I want to say, and shebecame a Switzerland citizen. But that's
why you haven't heard from her ina while, because she got out of
the US. Yeah. Well,well at least she, uh, you
(02:28):
know, got up and got outwhen she could, you know, eighty
three. I mean, I meanshe did live a long life. She
loved so so my question to bealways right. I know this probably has
been, but what age if youhad to pick you would you want to
go? Well, I don't thinkit's a matter of quantity. I think
it's a matter of quality, Likeif I had them, if it's if
(02:50):
I had the most amazing life,and you know, if I did everything
and anything, I wanted to doand like, but what is that?
What is that entitled him? FrankieLyman died, Yeah, you know what
I mean, and he lived apretty good life. You know. Um
um, you know you can youcan get well me, we well me
(03:10):
personally, Like I want to adoptsome kids. I have a lot of
things, a lot of like knowledgethat I can express express to a lot
of kids and people, and Ican you know, bring up a lot
of people as well. Like I, I just feel like I have a
lot of unfinished business. And Ithink that until I can do all this
(03:30):
unfinished business, I don't think Ican rest regardless of you know, even
if I died suddenly, I'm comingback as a fucking ghost and uh doing
some of this unfinished business and givingsome goddamn people a book. Patright,
Well, no, that's just helpingsomebody like massage some some what is that
she was making pottery or some shitin that movie, I don't know what.
(03:50):
That motion freaked me out for asecond, but then you haven't watched
the movie. You haven't watched thembecause that's what they were doing. If
I had to pick, I'd probablybe like, if I'm gonna get old
I might as well get all theway. Oh I'm going at one thirty.
Let's break breakfast one thirty, onethirty. Bro this whatever I want?
(04:11):
I feel like when you when youhad you can bars with no teeth
bro as a fact, that's that'sa little high. Like the oldest person.
I think it was one of six, one seven and even then,
what quality of life, dude,are you getting after ninety ninety five?
What are you doing? And youknow, and you know what she said,
(04:32):
I want thirteen How she lived along life, She smoked cigarettes,
did nothing, drinks she drinks,don't drink coffee. Oh good for her?
But tenetics. But I think Isaw I don't remember what it was,
but like like this person hit ahundred and it was like they didn't
(04:56):
like how did you do it?I don't I didn't do this. I
didn't do that. I didn't dothat. Well, then what the hell
did you do with your hundred yearsof being on this era? Man?
Because like like you know what Imean, like if you didn't do any
of this crap, like that's areyou really living? Like if you lived
to one hundred, did you live? Like I'm just saying, yes,
that's how I got like you sayingquality over. I want to try like
(05:17):
Hiawaska and ship before I go,you know what I mean, Jesus Christ,
so like so why so I havea question for both of y'all.
Why is our culture the only culturethat calls people washed? Like you know
LLL is now doing his tour andpeople like us will go, you know,
our age will go watch him,you know, and you get like
(05:41):
the Nick Jaggers of the world thatare seventy probably or the Kisses of the
world that are doing it and peoplego watch them time and time out with
their tours, no problem. Youknow, they could come out with new
albums or whatever. But one inthe hip hop culture, you get to
fifty and then all of a suddenyou're like, oh, why are you
still trying to be young? Why? Why is that? You think,
(06:02):
Well, it's a different lifestyle thatthey lived. Um, you know,
they were like like if you lookat kiss, if you look at Mick
Jaggery, look at you know,Aerosmith for instance, they did a lot
of just drugs and partying and allabout that like lifestyle. They were like
always like when people went to gosee them, they were doing drugs.
(06:24):
But they were having the time oftheir lives during instant doing what they were
doing. They were having parties,they were you know, loud, music,
dancing, habit, sex, fuckingdo everything, literally doing everything,
though they literal party. In hiphop, it's it's a total like I'm
I'm I'm a like I'm a badass, butherfucker. I mean, that's not
(06:45):
like enjoying. There's not there's not. Like so when people associate with their
music, like like Aerosmith, they'relike fuck yeah, and they're singing along
to the song and the videos,they're partying, they're having fun, so
they're associating associating that with their ownjoy in their mind, But you don't
do that for hip hop. Hiphop is like, um, name any
(07:06):
song, tell me what song thatyou're gonna be bumped to at sixty you
know what I mean? And andyou're gonna be and you're gonna go and
see them do that at So that'swhat I'm saying, Like you you might
and and Jay might too, butwhy doesn't the average like run DMC hasn't
done a tour obviously, j Mand J Rescue Peace, but like you
(07:29):
know, kres one is still outthere touring and he has to smaller,
he has to do smaller venues whenkiss right now and only bring a kiss
because they're actually on on tour,yeah, doing their final tour or whatever
it's. They're selling out Arens yeah, like and led Zeppelin and Ozzie Osborne.
Yeah, so like I can well, I think in nostalgia is it's
(07:50):
another thing like like we're not verylike they're they have nostalgia. We have.
I don't even think we can callit a stalgi because we never left
because we never left in our minds, because we never like we still fus
with that music. We still likeI still listen to like like first albums
of like you know, of theLocks and you Know and you know Run
(08:11):
and you know all these like LLL. I also listened his first jit like
that shit never like that's not oldto me, that's like that's just classic.
It's classic up. But if LLLdropped the album right now, yeah,
would you would you buy it?Yes? I check it out?
Yeah, I wouldn't. Let mesay this for the and for the record,
L five Yeah, shout out outto ll no shade no shade at
(08:35):
him. But I'm about to saysong that might rub people the wrong way.
But the last verse where he putout I can't remember the song,
but he said drunk is a skunkfeeling so dirty, And that's when I
knew. I'm like, yeah,hello, gotta hang it up. Why
that verse that verse was, well, you gotta look at what we're associating
these lyrics with our lifestyles now,Like like, if if I'm in the
old folks, I mean I'm seeingsome old ass pussy, I'm gonna be
(08:58):
rapping about some old ass pussy.Like so this is so, this is
the reason why four or four orfour didn't do good, right, Because
everybody a quits their life with reasonabledoubt. Everybody understands Jay Z when he
did the Blueprin. Everybody understands thehard knock on. Everybody understands that.
But when Jay was talking about whathe's around right now, making money,
having a different life, nobody wantedto either chime into that. The people
(09:24):
that did make one hundred thousand plus, you know, growing up on that.
And then the other other people couldn'tunderstand what he was talking about.
Nobody knew what Tom Fords until JayWills. But guess what the other side
did those rich people did they knowwhat Tom Fords. Now, everybody in
the hood knows what tom Fords arebecause Jay gout. Yeah. But my
thing is like, why can't wehave the same thing that rock and rolled
(09:48):
up? It's it's just hard tostay It's hard to stay hit bro,
Like, that's that's really it.You know, you gotta stay on it,
you gotta stay first, you don'thave somebody. I think the only
one I see Osbourne it can barelytalk. Yeah, and and and I
think I don't remember what. Butbut they're not putting out new music.
They're putting out greatest sits. They'redoing all the greatest sits on the shows.
(10:11):
Yeah, doing shows. Yeah,but but they're doing shows on a
like one of I can't remember whoit was lifely and if it pops up
in my head, I will sayit. But they literally had to bring
a chair for Homeboy to sit therebecause he couldn't. Oh it's Johnny Cash,
you're absolutely right, Yeah, yeah, well so, but but but
(10:37):
look at look at look look atuh Tony Bennett. Well I think Tom
Bennett one of those olds it wason the voice. Um, but he's
on the Voice England and whatnot.But he's he's still belts like motherfucker,
he's still one of the biggest artistsever. Like a lot of people don't
really know because he's like that oldum, but he's still put some still
(11:01):
we did that, but if wedid that in hip hop, we'd be
getting made front of him. LikeGenuine just went on tour and barely could
do his his um his dances andhe became a me. Yeah, well
you gotta look you gotta look athip hop is represented as as as thuggish
as you know hip hop as asbeing very masculine and very aggressive, very
(11:24):
versus as being a young man's game. But why does it have to be
a young man's game now? Becausesee what we get older with this.
Now you got like Benny the Butcherand all the Griselda they're like forty plus
dropping heat. Still, That's whatI'm saying, don't respect in the streets.
I think it's really just about howlike after a certain while of you
being like rich and famous to hiphop, you start to lose touch with
(11:46):
what got you there in the firstplace, which was being in the mix,
which was being and that's why,like you see uh more relevance.
Yeah, yeah, it's like ifyou you know, like you said,
without forty four, which I thoughtwas a great album by the way,
but like you know, people can'trelate to that, you know what I
mean. So it's like you getto a point as an artist, like
do I fake it? I'm richnow, I've been rich for years.
Like how Eminem said, I can'trap about doing this, well, I
(12:07):
can't rap about But see the differenceis he evolved. Eminem evolved and he
changed with the modern music. SoI think that's gonna keep him relevant for
he'll be like the Aerosmith and he'llbe like the Nick Jackers. But because
he's evolving with what current. Let'sbe honest though, No, no,
no, I'm being honest right now. I say this with Eminem. No,
(12:31):
he evolves, He definitely evolves,but he's also like I hate to
say, I mean no shake becausehe's still one of the greatest to do
it today. But he's past hisprime, you know what I mean.
Like he's not touching old Eminem.He's not. He's got This is this
is my point, because this ismy point. He evolved, he's not
he's not the same person. Hewas right, he's also twenty five years
older. Yeah, and that's wherethat's where it's like, it's hard for
(12:54):
you to stay in touch with itwith the younger kids who are listening to
him. The last time he wasbroke, you weren't even alive. No,
I was wrong, but for sure, that's what I'm saying, Like
he doesn't all right. So mything is why, why why does rock
and roll, country or whatever isCan they make songs that young kids will
(13:18):
listen to because it's like a differenttransition all the time. Now we got
drill music. Did you see slimThug trying to act trying to wrap like
a drill artist on his h onhis ig. No, but I just
think that sounds so terrible that youjust said, if you can cut this,
I don't even want to find that. I don't even know. I'm
(13:39):
telling you he's he sounds stupid.The only reason he sounds compid. He's
trying to say that these kids soundsstupid. Yeah, Okay, this is
this is saying with rock music,they're still doing their old classic music hip
hop, they're trying to do newmusic, and they're trying to be relevant
in the modern scope. Rock musicis not trying to do that. Rock
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music is not reinventing the wheel.They're just putting out stuff that they've already
done. They already have people thatare buying these albums still to this day
because of the classic status to hiphop, you can't do that. You're
you're you're the only time you're puttingout like classics or doing a show with
doing classic songs, if you arein LL, if you are a you
know the Locks, or if you'resomebody that you know, have like big
(14:28):
time legitimacy in the game where youhave been able to stay modern and current
with the current sounds and current likeaudiences. And also in comparison to rock,
hip hop, hip hop is alsopretty young in comparison to rock,
So I mean, you know,it's one of those things that have grown.
So like when you were a fanof hip hop, there was probably
(14:48):
not that many fans in Nebraska,you know what I'm saying. But today
everybody in Nebraska probably knows what rapidsand hip hop is, you know what
I mean. So in that scale, it's like it's growing, it's banding,
it's it's exponentially growing. We're backin the day. We've had rock
since Elvis, you know what Imean, We've had we've had rock and
roll long before that. Yeah,long before Elvis, you know what I
(15:09):
mean. They say black people inventedrock and roll. You know, I
don't. I don't. I don'tknow. I wasn't there, but you
know, so it's it's it's beenaround for a long time. And that's
all I think. As we asit gets older, you'll start to see
where like now we have people stillrocking with Snoop though now we have people
still rocking with them, but thepeople are age. The people are age,
(15:30):
they're not younger than you, youngerpeople picking up on their old music.
Why why can't we still book thoseartists? Like all all jokes aside,
if we can get the funds,if anybody wants to, you know,
uh, put on this and makesome money and tone he has the
links down there, real people offthe record. We can have a real
people off the record, old schoolgym. I have no problem killing connections
(15:54):
and doing it, but we itneeds to make sense. Why can't we
have something like that once here,which is yes, rock the bills,
but they select their cities and we'redoing it on a smaller scale where Kiss
led Zeppelin. You know, thoseguys are doing a real they're doing you
know, they're Ami, which isby Y'allah and you know Amway and MSG
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and things like that. But whycan't we do that? M Like I
said, it's them staying relevant inthe current scope of music and audiences.
Like rock does that rock just withhip hop now, you're not a lot
of artists can do that because ofwell sad to the music. I think
(16:42):
the music currently has gone downhill,honestly, um for and I think that
people just are just looking at differentnew sounds that people aren't doing anymore.
Like like the older heads, they'repeople young ages. There's a lot more
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young people than there are old people. So what they're doing is they're looking
for the new next big thing,the newest big thing. They're not going
to Jada Kiss. They're not goingto I mean, they might go to
jay Z, but they're not goingto go to you know, KRS one.
They're not going to go to RunDNC. They're not half of them,
(17:23):
don't even know who they are unlessthey work. Unless they solve them
on Run's house, that's problem.Yeah, they're not relevant because they're passing
on our music, like like therock is rock is is playing this music
for their kids. Current kid arecurrent parents. They're so young that they're
playing this modern stuff. They're notplaying that old stuff to their kids.
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That's another positive. That's another thingthat's messing up the entire you know,
the positivity of moving, evolving ourmusic and keeping hip hop relevant for a
long long period of time, becauselike I said, they're on whatever.
You know, I'm not even toput any artists right now because I don't
want to put any of the currenttrap artists on blast because I just don't
(18:06):
want to do that. But they'rebeing shown to these younger youth and not
the classics are not being shown tothis youth because we it's just not in
their system because there's a lot ofyoung parents between the three of us.
As y'all guys know, y'all watchour podcast, y'all listen to our podcast.
Jay is the youngest one. Sowhat is the oldest artist you would
(18:26):
go to? Jay not being Jaythe artist as far as like you spit,
you know, you you're in hiphop, you're you're artists. As
Jay not being in the music industry, what would be the oldest artist you
would go see right now if theywere like somewhere around where you are,
and they got to be like fortyfive fifty years old. So yeah,
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okay, okay, I mean justI don't know how old he is,
but I guess Big Daddy King okay, yeah, and then he would be
playing this side of you that's notthe oldest side of you talk and he
would play actually, he would actuallybe playing the smaller venues, that's what
he wouldn't be doing those. Yeah, yeah, no, I Big Daddy
(19:11):
King. He's actually always influenced mymusic because he's got a dope flow.
Yeah. By the way, BigDaddy King years old, still got a
year on. And I will goto LL show all day. Oh yeah,
LL's got hit. Bro. Mamasaid, Now you're trying to go
to show the bag of chip himlike see what happened? Was no?
(19:34):
No his music though, you go, but I actually was funny. That
was really funny. Go ahead,um, but even like a boys demn
show, I will go to backand check that. But you know what,
I would still singing those fucking songs. But that's different because you mean
(19:56):
to tell me that baby Face isnot selling out, not not m Madison
Square Garden. No, but hedoes the little sigh Madison Square Garden,
the locks versus it's not No,it's not. It's called the Hulu Arena.
I mean, he'll get a show, but it's kind of being that
(20:19):
heavy. What artists do you think? It's forty plus that could sell out?
Uh? Um, that could sellout? Um? What's the Raymond
James Stadium. Um, let's let'sput in am Way and Madison Square Garden
just and then over here we goth what forty five plus person could and
not including jay m Yeah, notincluding them because they don't really do you
(20:44):
know, shows like that no more, but they could do it in a
heartbeat. Snoop Dog they could.That's good as a headliner by himself.
Yeah, I think so global.Snoop Dogg is a global phenomenon and everybody
loves Snoop Dog who open for suppShack as djjj yo Shack just dropped something.
(21:07):
I don't know if y'all heard thatship, but he ripped that ship.
Boy, you know he did.He joined where he's like driving.
Yeah, he killed that sh youknow, open up, you know,
open up for Snoop Dog jokes aside, And I know you're gonna think I'm
seriously joking, but if we hadto take it around, just keep it
in West Coast, uh dazz andcorrupt, you couldn't come out exhibit.
(21:32):
I was just kidding, exhibit.You know he got a pimper ride and
two right there too. And ifI would go too. If you really
want to throw in the mixt thethe New Age, you put Kendrick in
there like right before Snoop as likeyou know, the But I don't think
I don't think Kendrick would take anopening opening uh opening act to to Snoop.
(21:52):
Yeah, I think I think hewould if it's like a West Coast
tribute show or something like that.Yeah, the West Coast. We're just
talking about a Snoop headlining show.Just all right, So just think about
this. What if they took thesuper Bowl for on the road, Okay,
Mary, yeah fifty ye uh DreyHendrick, Ye tell me that wouldn't
(22:15):
sell? It would Oh yeah?That was all And all of them are
over forty except for Kendrick. Idon't think Kendricks. No, I think
he's but Kendrick mentally is like sixtyKendrick's old soul. He's an old soul.
Kendrick Lamar is thirty five. Damnhe's thirty five. Damn I'm thirty
one. I'm about to be thirtyone. That's nuts correct. So but
(22:37):
like I would go see that tour, I wouldn't had that tour. I
would go to see Yeah, Iwould, like I remember, I remember
going to Jacksonville, Uh probably andprobably like eight ten years ago now,
and I want to go see shoutout Duval County d But I wanted to
go see it was an R andB T. All right, all right,
(23:02):
you ready, yeah, one twelve, Okay, next case Um,
who else was there? Uh?Bobby Brown? And no, it wasn't
Joe to see it was Casey andjoejo. It was Casey and Joejoe not
Joe to c as a whole.That's a lot of So think about those
five people in Dougall County. Brolet me tell you the big Rims,
(23:27):
the thirty two years out, thehuns out. But but but first show
like that, Now, like youwould have to go to just locations like
that. You gotta go to Jacksonville, you gotta go to Tampa. You
gotta go to Miami. You gotlike you have to do with a big
seven here in Baltimore, Yeah,after in the Royal Farms Arena, which
is like a Royal Farms Arena isequivalent to It's not like they don't play
(23:52):
professional sports there. They play arenafootball, they play like small soccer.
They would also sell out in Atlanta. Uh, it would sell out New
York, North Carolina, Raleigh,Charlotte. Yeah, people do numbers pretty
much most places. Virginia Beach problem, but it would have, but it
(24:12):
would have to be selective. LikeSitty right now is on tour. Yeah,
yeah, fifty coming to Champa.I think in August. I'm trying
to sift and sifties and sifties sellingout that he's having to add one.
But he's also coolly, this islast tour. He's not going to do
it. Yeah. Yeah, it'slike the final lap, the final lap
tours. That's how old we arethat all of our rappers are doing their
(24:34):
final tours. That's why once wedidn't you know, we didn't have a
guess. I was like cool,I got something to talk about. I
was just waiting for this part,like waiting to you know, let people
know, like, hey, wehere, we don't need a guess.
We can talk music all day.We're just gonna talk about stuff y'all would
really want to talk about but youain't got friends to talk about it when
you stay right here on Real Peoplepodcast. But I would like to,
(25:00):
you know, probably in the works. I would like to actually book a
show like that, like like puta show like that together. All right?
Cool? So now without without I'mgonna go to Jay first, because
I feel like you're gonna be madextra if you had to pick I name
five I mean five RMB artists rightnow, right right. It's not let's
not do our top five, youknow, nothing like that. Yeah,
(25:21):
but um, if you had topick, let's say six to eight artists,
right um, it doesn't have tostrictly be hip hop. It could
be R and B also, likeyou know, one twelve jackets, who
would you pick for what you got? You got six to eight if we
(25:44):
if we decided we're gonna do allthe record podcast, you know as the
record podcast, you know concert?Oh yeah, okay, got it,
Jay, who would you pick sixto eight, six to eight artists?
Yep? It could be R andB or hip hop fat join Nori off
the jump just because I want.I want to piss you off. I
(26:07):
told you that in't comfortable. Burnthis Mica off, turn the camera,
look listen. I probably they wouldn'tthey wouldn't do it because I was part
of it. But that was alljokes. That was a Seriously, though,
(26:27):
if I had to pick six eightartists, I'm probably gonna go straight
hip hop because that's just how I'mfeeling in this current moment. I'm sticking
with the big homie Snoop Uncle Snoopcan't go wrong with that. This is
only a live right, like notthat or a live Yeah. But if
we were put on the show,now, let's say we had an investor
that huh, that's a hologram TUPACdon't count not. If we had an
(26:52):
investor that hit me. I waslike, Hey, we like you guys
podcast. You guys are talking aboutin the concert. You know who would
you guys have? We'll see ifwe could fund it. Who's your six
to eight people. I'm not gonnagive you a cap on money because I
don't know all the artists that you'regonna pick. I can give you all
I can give you an idea,but yeah, I don't know all of
(27:14):
their budgets. Okay, Um,I probably I'm gonna throw. I'm gonna
throw like I'm gonna throw a mix. I'm gonna throw some old schoo artists.
Yeah, I got Snoop, Igot Snoop, I got fifty cents.
I'm gonna go ahead and throw insomebody new where I'm gonna say a
boogie. Jay I, the Princeof Ja, the Prince. He's young
(27:40):
Bull, young bull out of NewYork, skinny, skinny, young man.
He got some he got some dopetracks though, okay, little sing
song, but you know I withhim, but um that fuck shit?
All right, Yeah, I'm gonnago ahead and I'm gonna throw. Why
don't you just say to you knowyou're gonna put him codecs in there?
(28:00):
Yeah, that's six. You'll watchthis episode. You remember when he said
this, Yeah, yeah, that'ssix. You said, yeah to change?
Is that it? Yeah? I'llthrow in Uh this list, it's
about to be your first of all, Jay, your list is already expense
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and little Way, yeah, littleWayne for that seven seven, Oh Jada
kiss. I don't know if youheard Jadakissar I think I didn't hear Jada.
Yeah, I didn't hear kiss.So that's eight. By the way,
your list is super expensive. It'snever happened, No for sure,
for sure, all right they allall me favors though, so maybe it
might happen. So what we got. Give me a con okay, give
(28:47):
me bus a bus Okay, giveme Luda, okay, give me fetty
wat that from Jersey. You justthrew me off. My whole train of
thought, shout out. You gottabe careful. Remember we're recording anybody can
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anybody can say and assholes thing theyknow hip hop and Sei is not old
going to see it all the waybecause oh damn you can see it all
the way through. Fucked up.Um Yeah, I realized I'm trying to
be the Charlottagne day this. Ohboy, I want I want to be
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that guy. Okay, happened tothat name because he threw me off with
that said three you said bus bustthe bus ac Luda, uh three,
hey bust the bus acon and thenhe threw it. Yeah you're up to
four four now name four? Okay, So fuck you really threw me off?
(30:02):
Sorry I was I had them alreadyhe was super like man, because
I can actually see this show happening, like I can put you know what
I mean? A con Luda,uh buster buster give me? Oh and
(30:27):
I'm I'm gonna set this all upafter when I name mine. I don't
be like this dude, really yeah? Who als would be in that show?
That would be uh give me youknow, I'll take uh, well,
who would be in that show?That would be? What Acon?
(30:51):
Oh? Uh give me Neo?Okay, I just seen me on concert?
Will you get to that? Thatwas a dope com yeah, like
himself with an orchestra. Nice,give me, give me justin Timberlake.
Okay, and that's what six?That's fine? Six? Yeah, oh
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that's fine. No Boston, yeah, ac Acon, yeah, Leo,
Luda, Chris justin Timberlake. Sohe's up to timber six. M six,
let's go with You can stop atsix. I mean, you ain't
gotta go to eight. But no, because because I'm actually thinking about this
show, how much I was intoit, this fucking show. Oh fuck?
(31:41):
Whose only thinking? Well show mysendence Missy Elliott. If you got
bust, you gotta have Missy.You know you don't and you your your
list is over, Bron, Igotta add you said black before your show
is way expensive. I was gonnasay Mariah, but I've heard her sing
(32:04):
lately exactly, exactly exactly, shoutout to Mariah Cannon. Um, this
is the show that's gonna get uscanceled. It. Well, I'm anna,
(32:25):
I'm gonna tag Nick Cannon. I'ma tao because you know you know
what I mean. I love Mariad, Don't get me wrong. I love
Mariad, but I mean, man, stuff happens. Come on, I
mean we can't. What's what's theother two? Let's go with you stopping
at six. I'm gonna stop itsick because the other ones they left my
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mind because I had him in linelike I had him. Man, shit,
we gotta add another year of fettywap sentence. Just I'm trying.
I'm trying to who would go goodwith that group? Let's go with the
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locks, bro, I mean,the locks is my answer for everything.
So like, I would put themin any show, Honestly, I would.
I would put them on any show. I didn't say, I didn't
say an artist that was a partof the group wasn't one. Y'all just
saying kiss by himself. Yeah,but but I been, like I said,
locks, I will put him inany show, So let's put him
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in that show. So that's that'syou're at seven now, that's fine.
You're good with seven day already.Yeah, go ahead, yes, right
and meth mm hmm. Then wecome back with the Locks. Nice,
so you're going hard hard heart whothen we come back well, first of
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all, because because you came hard. No, no, you came hard,
and like, we gotta have ashow that's gonna everyone's gonna come to.
I mean everyone's gonna come to that. But you know everyone's coming on
this show. What no freaky no, freaky right, go ahead, show,
(34:15):
go ahead? Who you got?So that's true? Right, but
uh you said the locks and thenoh well ray um sorry mess red and
the locks? Three? Yeah,jar rule okay, right, got hit?
(34:36):
No, he does ja rule andfitty. Then I would then I
would do one twelve okay, jacketedge nice, I almost said jacket edge,
and then I would do Drew Hill. You know, I was gonna
say Cisco too, but if wewere doing a throwback show, that's where
I was gonna put him in,and then I would close it out.
(34:58):
With c JK. See how wefucked you up. But then you gotta
and I'm not saying that's the order. I want them to do everything and
that's the closer or whatever. Andthen I would throw in Janet Jackson,
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Janet jack Son, and if so, what if I couldn't get Janet Jackson,
I would do new edition, newedition. Just think about that lineup.
It gives you every perspective of yourlife. If you're our age.
Yeah, it's like what you said, I came hard, pause and then
I softened it up. You did, you did, But if you if
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you put those if you put thatlineup together, Obviously the Jay's and the
Nags of the world, we're leavingthem out because really you know that's yeah,
I mean I might, we mightnot be able to afford Janet Jackson
everybody else. I feel like it'sdoable. Yeah, but you gotta do
it on the beach. Yeah,MTV old style style on a resort beach
(36:10):
like where Tone works. Almost almostshouted it out, but they ain't paying
for it, so we're not gonnashot him out. But think about the
Tone where you work your day jobon the beach, right outside the club.
The stage right there. Tell meI foxed with it. I really
(36:30):
foxed with it. So if wethrew a throwback show, yea. But
yeah, if we threw a throwbackshow, I'm I'm with it. I'm
because I think all them let youjump. Let me know if that'll be
(36:50):
a show that you would come outto you because I'm really curious how many
people will come out to that show. I mean not the whole entire show.
We can do like two one oneone month and then maybe bring back
into another moment and another two.Like you gotta understand, like, yeah,
that's a that's a big nut,you know, so to speak,
like to put out there. Butwhen they have the wild things on,
(37:14):
um, what's what's the radio stationout there? And see people they have,
Yeah, when they have those concertson the beach, Yeah, I
don't know, I've never been there. I don't know what it looks like.
But you know, you have tohave a significant thing. But where
where you are, Yeah, that'slike you take over the whole resort.
You can see it from the room, so to speak. You can those
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rooms you charge more for you lockdown the whole hotel. Like yeah,
you see, I had some thoughtinto this, right, I mean,
but I think that would be superdup. Yeah, I wish I could
book shows like that because I haveso many ideas, but so many people
are so expensive. It's so expensiveto you. What's expensive to you?
(38:00):
You? And what's the artist you? Well, well, I'm gonna give
you an example, Like we likebooking DJs. They were charging like thirty
forty K for an hour of playing. You care to say? Who are
Okay? Um, it's a lotof the bigger DJs. How much How
much would you charge? How muchwould you pay for? And I'll give
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y'all both a chance to guess beforeI save the number for juve for juvenile
Yeah m hm, I just hadsomebody in that book I would I would
be more than him. Well yournumber, yeah, yeah, because because
juvenile like I grew up with juvenilelike like his music, Yeah you didn't,
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So, like I said, minewould be a little bit more InCred
I get that man like seventy fivehundred seventy five Yeah all right, So
all right, I mean I wasactually in the same like ten. That's
that's me being generous knowing that he'san og, he's got a crowd,
and he could that's around the ballparkor what he calls because if if you
ask me how much I would wantto give him, like based on that,
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because that's that's your experience, Likehe's gonna sell more tickets than that.
But at the same time, toyou, that's what he would be
worth because he didn't, he didn'thave no effect on your life. You
also got to remember it depends onwhere you deal you have with the venue
you look, ye right, ye, so like in in in um the
(39:30):
beach spot. Will just call itthat from here on now, the beach
spot. If I was allowed totake over that whole spot and get the
rooms plus control the weekend, yeahI would because I would sell the rooms
for a little bit more than youknow what they're giving them to me for
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because I know that front area thatyou could see the beach, that you
could see the stage and see everything. And then you have that other spot
that that's closed um after breakfast.You know you have that as like a
meet and greet beforehand, like aVIP area like you can you can sell
that spot. And again you seethat we would be very limited on shows
(40:14):
if we did something there, verylimited on shows. Oh yeah, yeah,
I know, I really really thetime. Ye like DJ Camello,
we could do that, but anyanything else than that is I mean,
like I said, we can bringSerrani up. We can do a lot
of R and B. We coulddo R and B. Yeah, we
did think about breaking. Yeah,when you think about reggae, we bring
(40:36):
Serrani out. He's doing numbers broand some of these new some of these
new vis vibes. Get out.Rob's still in jail. I think,
no, Yeah, I thought hewas getting out. I thought he was
like Loomis, back back on theroad making money. Oh yeah, she
still she still gets paid overseas.She probably gets about last time I talked
(40:57):
to her. I think like twelvefifteen, the show something like that.
I heard Bad Bunnies getting like Ithink it was like too much. Yeah,
it was like a million or likemaybe maybe half of that, but
I think it was like a millionstuff. I still had to attach to
his girl to get them side.So he went on tickets on the side,
he went on tour and made themost as a touring artist in history.
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I think, if I'm not mistaken, I still don't know any of
his music. Yeah, it justmakes me proud. You know Fuerto Rican
people's right there. But I mean, I'm not saying that he's like not
a not a good artist. I'mjust saying I don't. I don't know
stuff. Yeah, I don't.I don't. I don't speak Spanish,
but I know I know them James, you know, I know, I
know, like the worst he hadwith Cardy b that you know, and
(41:42):
she's sampled up. Oh yeah,yeah, yeah, that was like the
first time I heard of him.After that, I'm like, shout out
to Cardi. He's been real quietlately. Well she she's getting up the
song. Yeah, but we needwe need more Cardy in our lives.
Cardi, if you're watching this athome, we need some cards do Yeah,
we absolutely need. I don't wantto see her back beating nasa is
(42:05):
on reality TV. I need hermusic all day. I don't care if
she writes it or not. Idon't care about that either. At this
point in my life, I reallydon't care, right, Like, if
you got the money to pay somebodylike didd he said, I don't.
I don't care if I write rounds, I write checks. Do you think
you think any ghostwriters went on strikewith the writer strike no ghostwriters is like,
(42:29):
no, I need any check.I could get it. Yeah,
And if somebody hit me up fora verse right now, I tell my
wife. Yeah, I'm still inthis room, still in the podcast room.
I gotta do something. So showafter the show, we're gonna talk
about putting the show together because Ithink we can do something. I don't
mind, you know me, don't. I'm all. I'm all about,
(42:50):
like especially working with jobs, youknow whatever, like um, there's certain
people that an't hit me up.And I don't care if you're watching this,
like I would just be like,yeah, right cool, yeah,
you know whatever. If you knowpeople got the money and they want to
put the money up, I got, yeah, I got. I don't
know, y'all to him? Youever seen Crush Grew the movie? I
think I think I asked this before. It doesn't ring about you talked about
(43:13):
it the movie or something like that. Yeah, it's about death Jam.
We talked about it. So it'sbasically about how Um Russell Simmons and what's
the white boys name John claud vandem Sorry I press you even know who
(43:34):
that is? Rick Rubin? Howhow Rick Rubin and h Russell Simmons shared
a dorm room and that's how theycame up with death Jam. And they
were trying to push um Curtis Blowat the time, they were trying to
push Run DMC, which is wellRun, which is um Russell Simmons brother
(43:58):
and then uh Ussell Simmons, Imean Run went behind Russells and his brother's
back signed another deal with somebody else. Sheila Eve was involved. I don't
know if you know who she reallyis. The Fat Boys, you know,
so they had this U they hadthis uh showcase at a spot called
the Fever in the Bronx. SalAbotillo was the owner of the Fever and
(44:21):
yeah, ye Curtis Blow Fat BoysNew edition UM Run DMC performed there of
like it's a legendary spot in theBronx. I have an old email that
Sal set me and I was goingthrough my my you know, remember I
told you I was, you know, going through my ig. Have an
(44:44):
old email at Sal sent me yoshow call me. We gotta talk,
so anything I can call that manand he has and his his reach right
now, he got hip hop reach, but his reach is like Judy Torres,
the Zeppeldez, Stevie, Bad ck A. You know, like
those type of house you know,like Jake, what what our parents used
(45:07):
to fucking you know, Saturday morningyou fabulo sold out the crib, you
know what I mean? Like andnobody understands that. The reach I have
with that music is Judy Torre Jr. Judy Torre's first hit single was about
my uncle because they used to dateabout it. That's when you know you
(45:37):
got it. So we're gonna doa real people off the record. I
don't know, but what do youwant to call it? We could,
we could talk about that often.But if we get look, if we
can get them, if we canget the beat spot, I'm down with
it. Real people on the beach. I'm down with it because, Bro,
(45:58):
if we can make a deal withthe that's a deal for everything.
Yeah, I'm all right with that. But we gotta again, we got
to talk about the caliber artist becausewe changed to bring Yeah, we're not
gonna bring Junior Read in there withyou know, Bob Marley and yeah,
you know Jim Jones on the bells. I know that's not rest in peace.
(46:22):
So yeah, we'll talk about that. We want to talk about it.
Hell yeah, hell yeah? Whatelse we got going? What else
we got going? Man? Somethingabout versus with some of these verses been
a little stuff that I've been recorded, Man, I haven't put it out
yet, so I kind of justbeen one of them I sent you was
more of like a concept track.I don't even think I had ad libs
(46:44):
or anything on there, but um, yeah, man, what are you
gearing up for? You gearing upfor an album? Oh? Yeah,
you know, I was about that. I'm just putting out singles right now,
at least that's the focus. I'mnot really trying to work on the
album. We're trying to get backon the road with the Tray Cleft,
which is a music group I'm apart of, so we're trying to make
moves there right now. I'm moreso shifted my focus and and what we
were just talking about event planning.So we just did smoke Fest. We're
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actually I probably shouldn't even announce it, but fuck it, we're here.
I don't want to just say it. And were actually putting together smoke Fest
Tampa because we did it in Lakeland, so we're getting ready to have it
out here towards Tampa side. Wealready have a venue that we're in talks
with so hopefully, you know,I could go ahead and close that deal,
make sure we get for next yearin four twenty or yeah, this
(47:28):
is gonna be like a like asecond edition, like we want to have
our four twenties. So the thingis the thing about smoke Fest is especially
in Lakeland. You know, Lakelandsa pretty conservative town. You know,
you got great dud as the sheriff. So they first first smoke Fest was
like downtown Lakeland. Second smoke Festwas also in downtown Lakeland. That third
smoke Fest like after that, theywere like, yeah, downtown Lakeland don't
(47:50):
even want to surround here, Likethey're like, hell no, every time
y'all come out here is we gettingsmoked. It's all types of ship going
down. So that's why how wasthat first? How was that? The
last move question that we just passed? It was dope. It was people
wise, you know, yeah,yeah, we probably had like what what
what it looked like probably about onehundred and fifty people, one hundred and
fifty maybe two hundred people. Itwas solid. We had so many vendors
(48:13):
out there. Uh, the onevendor that that really caught my eye.
I had to get food from them. It was I'm looking at their menu.
It's on a dry race board,and it's just poorly written and shitty
hand riding. It's like steak andshrimp, chicken and wings or chicken and
fries, and you know what Imean. And I'm looking this thing from
the bottom up, and then allof a sudden I get to the top
and it's just says hood Bocchi,And I'm like, oh, this the
fucking thing. The thing wait,it said hood Bocchi Bro, and these
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motherfuckers was cooking some ship, bro, hood Bocchi Bro. So shouts out
to Hoodbacchi. I need them topull up to every every event we put
together because them boy doing it.Bro. That ship was so funny,
Bro, the most ghetto thug dudeslooking just cooking up Bacchi Bro. They
we wasn't doing another fancy tricks.But yeah, it was. It was
dope. It was a solid turnout. Um. You know, my performance
(48:59):
probably it could have been a littlebetter. I wasn't too happy. It
wasn't my best set, but youknow it wasn't It wasn't terrible. What
did it? What didn't you like? I just didn't. I just felt
like going up there, my energywas off. I was like to spread
out. So I had, likemy cousin who was having a vendor table.
My girl had a vendor table.So I think my focus was more
so like it was also my cousin'sbirthday, so I was like trying to
(49:21):
Yeah. Yeah, it was likethe new environment. I kind of hijacked
my cousin's birthday. It was likeyeah, at first, I dragged him
along, but when he got there, he was like, Okay, I
thought with this, you know whatI mean? It was it was dope
vibe, but I could tell hewas a little upset, like brothers almost
my cousin's you know, he takeshis birthdays like his day. So I
was trying to make sure he hada good time. My girl's super pregnant.
She had a vendor table. Soeven my boy was asked. He's
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like, yeah, we were lookingfor you and all the pictures we didn't
find you. I was like,yeah, why bad. I was kind
of like attentions. Yeah, Sowhen I got up on stage, it
was like an issue with the music. We sat up sat up there for
like ten awkward. Well, itfelt like it was probably like five awkward
minutes while they were getting it wasjust fucked up. Then halfway through the
second song, the song just cutoff. I don't know, I don't
know whose fault that was. I'mgonna blame the DJ, but we were
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also on on a pretty ship stage. You know, you know it's always
protected DJ shouts out to the DJ, but you know, I wasn't feeling
him in that moment. You know, probably wasn't his fault, but I
just feel like a lot of shitwas was. You know, I didn't
feel great about that. Said,you know what happens. You know,
I feel like it could have beenmy I know my energy was off right
(50:23):
from the jump. So but withthat being said, everybody else was fucking
lit. Everybody was lit. Iwas proud of So I had my young
artists come out. Lee Malu,I'm gonna have her on the show,
and it was her second show,and she fucking murdered that ship. Bro,
Like I was proud, like she. I felt like a proud big
bro right there, even though,like you know, she's my people's I
watched to grow up and she killedthat ship, bro, Like nice,
(50:46):
nice, You gotta send us somemusic prayers, So we can uh you
know see what she what she whatshe about? What she got. But
I'm gonna say something to y'all andthis is gonna be exclusive because I don't
want to know other guests to understandthis. So um July twenty, yep,
I will be in studio with youguys. I ain't gonna be honest
(51:08):
zoom July twentieth. We're gonna bethere and we're gonna turn it up a
little bit. We don't have somefun from July twentieth for sure. For
sure j July twenty because I'll bein town. I'll be that way to
do some softball things. So I'ma fly in a day earlier just to
(51:30):
be in studio with your guys.Nice, chill with you guys. Mark
it on your calendars. July twenty. If we're gonna turn up, it's
gonna be something different, and uh, you never know who might pop up
with me. So we're just leavinga nice say that, say that,
and say that he less. Wemight have to because we're still planning dates.
(51:50):
So maybe, you know, maybewe try to do smoke Fest Tampa
around that time. It might alsobe twenty Hey, you know what you
know, what let's let's do thisand we can talk about to talve camera.
Maybe I'll stretch you July twenty.If if you got bars and you're
seeing this right now, go tothe email that's down in the description.
We'll set up another mic and we'regonna see if you really got bars.
(52:13):
July twenty, if you could bein studio with us, if you really
got bars, send us what yougot and we'll pick a couple of artists
and we'll set them up right nextto us and see if you've got bars
for real, because I'll spit thatnight. I'll go on I'll go on
record and say I'll even spit thatnow, Oh calendar, July twentieth,
I'll spit that. Now. Wecan have like you know, bring some
beats, bring some beats. I'llbring some beats. I'll bring some beats.
(52:37):
I have no problem with that.We can get we can get Chemos
to give us some beats. Wecan shout out Chemos every time you know,
we play his beat. We geta couple of the producers to give
some beats. But if you gotbars, you think you got bars,
send us some songs, send usyour best bars. And then between the
three of us, We'll pick acouple of artists or whatever. We'll set
up a mic on the side witha tone. We'll set up a micael
(53:00):
aside. We'll do a little interviewwith everybody a couple of minutes. But
then you don't have to spit something. You can't spit something, don't come
tone, you're gonna wrap if weall wrap it up out like I said,
let's bring some beats and let's doJuly twenty. We did full effect.
Nice with that being said, ladiesand gentlemen, thank you for joining
(53:21):
us so real people Off the Recordpodcast. We will see you next week.
Please come up one
M hmmm. Ladies and gentlemen,welcome another episode them off the record.
(00:32):
What's going on, ladies and gentlemen, Jay? What you doing? What
you're wearing? Same old, sameold, mister J just chilling with the
bandanna and a bad hair Day's good. I haven't seen my barber. I
don't have a bad hair days.It's the hairline really ros a little bit.
The situation to me about hairline.This guy get cleaned up. That's
(00:56):
all. And we got the itsofficial show was going on without without without
r ip. Tina turnin piece,Tina turned the piece. Man. That
woman led her life. She wasan easy life, eat the cake anime.
It's so messed up because when Iheard the news, man, I
(01:18):
thought I thought she died a whileago. Bro. I was like,
it was no, no, no, no, no no no no,
hold on, hold on, holdon. Yeah it was bad, Bro,
the whole story. Do you seedid you see this tone? I
put it up and he goes,Yo, this is bad. I said,
wow, it's up. He goes, I thought she died already.
I confused her with Houston. Ifelt, yeah, I wouldn't replay that.
(01:42):
I want to go back and like, did he just let me think.
Yeah, I'm like, damn,it feel bad to say this,
but I thought she died a whileago. Man, And I think she
would have died at eighty three,the long beautiful like she was eighty three.
Um she had I think it wasa liver problem. Um. She
announced a couple of year, maybea year ago. Um. She also
(02:07):
got away from being a US citizen. She just bought a five million dollars
band with her husband over and Iwant to say Europe. Somewhere in Switzerland,
I want to say, and shebecame a Switzerland citizen. But that's
why you haven't heard from her ina while, because she got out of
the US. Yeah. Well,well at least she, uh, you
(02:28):
know, got up and got outwhen she could, you know, eighty
three. I mean, I meanshe did live a long life. She
loved so so my question to bealways right. I know this probably has
been, but what age if youhad to pick you would you want to
go? Well, I don't thinkit's a matter of quantity. I think
it's a matter of quality, Likeif I had them, if it's if
(02:50):
I had the most amazing life,and you know, if I did everything
and anything, I wanted to doand like, but what is that?
What is that entitled him? FrankieLyman died, Yeah, you know what
I mean, and he lived apretty good life. You know. Um
um, you know you can youcan get well me, we well me
(03:10):
personally, Like I want to adoptsome kids. I have a lot of
things, a lot of like knowledgethat I can express express to a lot
of kids and people, and Ican you know, bring up a lot
of people as well. Like I, I just feel like I have a
lot of unfinished business. And Ithink that until I can do all this
(03:30):
unfinished business, I don't think Ican rest regardless of you know, even
if I died suddenly, I'm comingback as a fucking ghost and uh doing
some of this unfinished business and givingsome goddamn people a book. Patright,
Well, no, that's just helpingsomebody like massage some some what is that
she was making pottery or some shitin that movie, I don't know what.
(03:50):
That motion freaked me out for asecond, but then you haven't watched
the movie. You haven't watched thembecause that's what they were doing. If
I had to pick, I'd probablybe like, if I'm gonna get old
I might as well get all theway. Oh I'm going at one thirty.
Let's break breakfast one thirty, onethirty. Bro this whatever I want?
(04:11):
I feel like when you when youhad you can bars with no teeth
bro as a fact, that's that'sa little high. Like the oldest person.
I think it was one of six, one seven and even then,
what quality of life, dude,are you getting after ninety ninety five?
What are you doing? And youknow, and you know what she said,
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I want thirteen How she lived along life, She smoked cigarettes,
did nothing, drinks she drinks,don't drink coffee. Oh good for her?
But tenetics. But I think Isaw I don't remember what it was,
but like like this person hit ahundred and it was like they didn't
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like how did you do it?I don't I didn't do this. I
didn't do that. I didn't dothat. Well, then what the hell
did you do with your hundred yearsof being on this era? Man?
Because like like you know what Imean, like if you didn't do any
of this crap, like that's areyou really living? Like if you lived
to one hundred, did you live? Like I'm just saying, yes,
that's how I got like you sayingquality over. I want to try like
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Hiawaska and ship before I go,you know what I mean, Jesus Christ,
so like so why so I havea question for both of y'all.
Why is our culture the only culturethat calls people washed? Like you know
LLL is now doing his tour andpeople like us will go, you know,
our age will go watch him,you know, and you get like
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the Nick Jaggers of the world thatare seventy probably or the Kisses of the
world that are doing it and peoplego watch them time and time out with
their tours, no problem. Youknow, they could come out with new
albums or whatever. But one inthe hip hop culture, you get to
fifty and then all of a suddenyou're like, oh, why are you
still trying to be young? Why? Why is that? You think,
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Well, it's a different lifestyle thatthey lived. Um, you know,
they were like like if you lookat kiss, if you look at Mick
Jaggery, look at you know,Aerosmith for instance, they did a lot
of just drugs and partying and allabout that like lifestyle. They were like
always like when people went to gosee them, they were doing drugs.
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But they were having the time oftheir lives during instant doing what they were
doing. They were having parties,they were you know, loud, music,
dancing, habit, sex, fuckingdo everything, literally doing everything,
though they literal party. In hiphop, it's it's a total like I'm
I'm I'm a like I'm a badass, butherfucker. I mean, that's not
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like enjoying. There's not there's not. Like so when people associate with their
music, like like Aerosmith, they'relike fuck yeah, and they're singing along
to the song and the videos,they're partying, they're having fun, so
they're associating associating that with their ownjoy in their mind, But you don't
do that for hip hop. Hiphop is like, um, name any
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song, tell me what song thatyou're gonna be bumped to at sixty you
know what I mean? And andyou're gonna be and you're gonna go and
see them do that at So that'swhat I'm saying, Like you you might
and and Jay might too, butwhy doesn't the average like run DMC hasn't
done a tour obviously, j Mand J Rescue Peace, but like you
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know, kres one is still outthere touring and he has to smaller,
he has to do smaller venues whenkiss right now and only bring a kiss
because they're actually on on tour,yeah, doing their final tour or whatever
it's. They're selling out Arens yeah, like and led Zeppelin and Ozzie Osborne.
Yeah, so like I can well, I think in nostalgia is it's
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another thing like like we're not verylike they're they have nostalgia. We have.
I don't even think we can callit a stalgi because we never left
because we never left in our minds, because we never like we still fus
with that music. We still likeI still listen to like like first albums
of like you know, of theLocks and you Know and you know Run
(08:11):
and you know all these like LLL. I also listened his first jit like
that shit never like that's not oldto me, that's like that's just classic.
It's classic up. But if LLLdropped the album right now, yeah,
would you would you buy it?Yes? I check it out?
Yeah, I wouldn't. Let mesay this for the and for the record,
L five Yeah, shout out outto ll no shade no shade at
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him. But I'm about to saysong that might rub people the wrong way.
But the last verse where he putout I can't remember the song,
but he said drunk is a skunkfeeling so dirty, And that's when I
knew. I'm like, yeah,hello, gotta hang it up. Why
that verse that verse was, well, you gotta look at what we're associating
these lyrics with our lifestyles now,Like like, if if I'm in the
old folks, I mean I'm seeingsome old ass pussy, I'm gonna be
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rapping about some old ass pussy.Like so this is so, this is
the reason why four or four orfour didn't do good, right, Because
everybody a quits their life with reasonabledoubt. Everybody understands Jay Z when he
did the Blueprin. Everybody understands thehard knock on. Everybody understands that.
But when Jay was talking about whathe's around right now, making money,
having a different life, nobody wantedto either chime into that. The people
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that did make one hundred thousand plus, you know, growing up on that.
And then the other other people couldn'tunderstand what he was talking about.
Nobody knew what Tom Fords until JayWills. But guess what the other side
did those rich people did they knowwhat Tom Fords. Now, everybody in
the hood knows what tom Fords arebecause Jay gout. Yeah. But my
thing is like, why can't wehave the same thing that rock and rolled
(09:48):
up? It's it's just hard tostay It's hard to stay hit bro,
Like, that's that's really it.You know, you gotta stay on it,
you gotta stay first, you don'thave somebody. I think the only
one I see Osbourne it can barelytalk. Yeah, and and and I
think I don't remember what. Butbut they're not putting out new music.
They're putting out greatest sits. They'redoing all the greatest sits on the shows.
(10:11):
Yeah, doing shows. Yeah,but but they're doing shows on a
like one of I can't remember whoit was lifely and if it pops up
in my head, I will sayit. But they literally had to bring
a chair for Homeboy to sit therebecause he couldn't. Oh it's Johnny Cash,
you're absolutely right, Yeah, yeah, well so, but but but
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look at look at look look atuh Tony Bennett. Well I think Tom
Bennett one of those olds it wason the voice. Um, but he's
on the Voice England and whatnot.But he's he's still belts like motherfucker,
he's still one of the biggest artistsever. Like a lot of people don't
really know because he's like that oldum, but he's still put some still
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we did that, but if wedid that in hip hop, we'd be
getting made front of him. LikeGenuine just went on tour and barely could
do his his um his dances andhe became a me. Yeah, well
you gotta look you gotta look athip hop is represented as as as thuggish
as you know hip hop as asbeing very masculine and very aggressive, very
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versus as being a young man's game. But why does it have to be
a young man's game now? Becausesee what we get older with this.
Now you got like Benny the Butcherand all the Griselda they're like forty plus
dropping heat. Still, That's whatI'm saying, don't respect in the streets.
I think it's really just about howlike after a certain while of you
being like rich and famous to hiphop, you start to lose touch with
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what got you there in the firstplace, which was being in the mix,
which was being and that's why,like you see uh more relevance.
Yeah, yeah, it's like ifyou you know, like you said,
without forty four, which I thoughtwas a great album by the way,
but like you know, people can'trelate to that, you know what I
mean. So it's like you getto a point as an artist, like
do I fake it? I'm richnow, I've been rich for years.
Like how Eminem said, I can'trap about doing this, well, I
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can't rap about But see the differenceis he evolved. Eminem evolved and he
changed with the modern music. SoI think that's gonna keep him relevant for
he'll be like the Aerosmith and he'llbe like the Nick Jackers. But because
he's evolving with what current. Let'sbe honest though, No, no,
no, I'm being honest right now. I say this with Eminem. No,
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he evolves, He definitely evolves,but he's also like I hate to
say, I mean no shake becausehe's still one of the greatest to do
it today. But he's past hisprime, you know what I mean.
Like he's not touching old Eminem.He's not. He's got This is this
is my point, because this ismy point. He evolved, he's not
he's not the same person. Hewas right, he's also twenty five years
older. Yeah, and that's wherethat's where it's like, it's hard for
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you to stay in touch with itwith the younger kids who are listening to
him. The last time he wasbroke, you weren't even alive. No,
I was wrong, but for sure, that's what I'm saying, Like
he doesn't all right. So mything is why, why why does rock
and roll, country or whatever isCan they make songs that young kids will
(13:18):
listen to because it's like a differenttransition all the time. Now we got
drill music. Did you see slimThug trying to act trying to wrap like
a drill artist on his h onhis ig. No, but I just
think that sounds so terrible that youjust said, if you can cut this,
I don't even want to find that. I don't even know. I'm
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telling you he's he sounds stupid.The only reason he sounds compid. He's
trying to say that these kids soundsstupid. Yeah, Okay, this is
this is saying with rock music,they're still doing their old classic music hip
hop, they're trying to do newmusic, and they're trying to be relevant
in the modern scope. Rock musicis not trying to do that. Rock
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music is not reinventing the wheel.They're just putting out stuff that they've already
done. They already have people thatare buying these albums still to this day
because of the classic status to hiphop, you can't do that. You're
you're you're the only time you're puttingout like classics or doing a show with
doing classic songs, if you arein LL, if you are a you
know the Locks, or if you'resomebody that you know, have like big
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time legitimacy in the game where youhave been able to stay modern and current
with the current sounds and current likeaudiences. And also in comparison to rock,
hip hop, hip hop is alsopretty young in comparison to rock,
So I mean, you know,it's one of those things that have grown.
So like when you were a fanof hip hop, there was probably
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not that many fans in Nebraska,you know what I'm saying. But today
everybody in Nebraska probably knows what rapidsand hip hop is, you know what
I mean. So in that scale, it's like it's growing, it's banding,
it's it's exponentially growing. We're backin the day. We've had rock
since Elvis, you know what Imean, We've had we've had rock and
roll long before that. Yeah,long before Elvis, you know what I
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mean. They say black people inventedrock and roll. You know, I
don't. I don't. I don'tknow. I wasn't there, but you
know, so it's it's it's beenaround for a long time. And that's
all I think. As we asit gets older, you'll start to see
where like now we have people stillrocking with Snoop though now we have people
still rocking with them, but thepeople are age. The people are age,
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they're not younger than you, youngerpeople picking up on their old music.
Why why can't we still book thoseartists? Like all all jokes aside,
if we can get the funds,if anybody wants to, you know,
uh, put on this and makesome money and tone he has the
links down there, real people offthe record. We can have a real
people off the record, old schoolgym. I have no problem killing connections
(15:54):
and doing it, but we itneeds to make sense. Why can't we
have something like that once here,which is yes, rock the bills,
but they select their cities and we'redoing it on a smaller scale where Kiss
led Zeppelin. You know, thoseguys are doing a real they're doing you
know, they're Ami, which isby Y'allah and you know Amway and MSG
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and things like that. But whycan't we do that? M Like I
said, it's them staying relevant inthe current scope of music and audiences.
Like rock does that rock just withhip hop now, you're not a lot
of artists can do that because ofwell sad to the music. I think
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the music currently has gone downhill,honestly, um for and I think that
people just are just looking at differentnew sounds that people aren't doing anymore.
Like like the older heads, they'repeople young ages. There's a lot more
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young people than there are old people. So what they're doing is they're looking
for the new next big thing,the newest big thing. They're not going
to Jada Kiss. They're not goingto I mean, they might go to
jay Z, but they're not goingto go to you know, KRS one.
They're not going to go to RunDNC. They're not half of them,
(17:23):
don't even know who they are unlessthey work. Unless they solve them
on Run's house, that's problem.Yeah, they're not relevant because they're passing
on our music, like like therock is rock is is playing this music
for their kids. Current kid arecurrent parents. They're so young that they're
playing this modern stuff. They're notplaying that old stuff to their kids.
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That's another positive. That's another thingthat's messing up the entire you know,
the positivity of moving, evolving ourmusic and keeping hip hop relevant for a
long long period of time, becauselike I said, they're on whatever.
You know, I'm not even toput any artists right now because I don't
want to put any of the currenttrap artists on blast because I just don't
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want to do that. But they'rebeing shown to these younger youth and not
the classics are not being shown tothis youth because we it's just not in
their system because there's a lot ofyoung parents between the three of us.
As y'all guys know, y'all watchour podcast, y'all listen to our podcast.
Jay is the youngest one. Sowhat is the oldest artist you would
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go to? Jay not being Jaythe artist as far as like you spit,
you know, you you're in hiphop, you're you're artists. As
Jay not being in the music industry, what would be the oldest artist you
would go see right now if theywere like somewhere around where you are,
and they got to be like fortyfive fifty years old. So yeah,
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okay, okay, I mean justI don't know how old he is,
but I guess Big Daddy King okay, yeah, and then he would be
playing this side of you that's notthe oldest side of you talk and he
would play actually, he would actuallybe playing the smaller venues, that's what
he wouldn't be doing those. Yeah, yeah, no, I Big Daddy
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King. He's actually always influenced mymusic because he's got a dope flow.
Yeah. By the way, BigDaddy King years old, still got a
year on. And I will goto LL show all day. Oh yeah,
LL's got hit. Bro. Mamasaid, Now you're trying to go
to show the bag of chip himlike see what happened? Was no?
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No his music though, you go, but I actually was funny. That
was really funny. Go ahead,um, but even like a boys demn
show, I will go to backand check that. But you know what,
I would still singing those fucking songs. But that's different because you mean
(19:56):
to tell me that baby Face isnot selling out, not not m Madison
Square Garden. No, but hedoes the little sigh Madison Square Garden,
the locks versus it's not No,it's not. It's called the Hulu Arena.
I mean, he'll get a show, but it's kind of being that
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heavy. What artists do you think? It's forty plus that could sell out?
Uh? Um, that could sellout? Um? What's the Raymond
James Stadium. Um, let's let'sput in am Way and Madison Square Garden
just and then over here we goth what forty five plus person could and
not including jay m Yeah, notincluding them because they don't really do you
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know, shows like that no more, but they could do it in a
heartbeat. Snoop Dog they could.That's good as a headliner by himself.
Yeah, I think so global.Snoop Dogg is a global phenomenon and everybody
loves Snoop Dog who open for suppShack as djjj yo Shack just dropped something.
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I don't know if y'all heard thatship, but he ripped that ship.
Boy, you know he did.He joined where he's like driving.
Yeah, he killed that sh youknow, open up, you know,
open up for Snoop Dog jokes aside, And I know you're gonna think I'm
seriously joking, but if we hadto take it around, just keep it
in West Coast, uh dazz andcorrupt, you couldn't come out exhibit.
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I was just kidding, exhibit.You know he got a pimper ride and
two right there too. And ifI would go too. If you really
want to throw in the mixt thethe New Age, you put Kendrick in
there like right before Snoop as likeyou know, the But I don't think
I don't think Kendrick would take anopening opening uh opening act to to Snoop.
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Yeah, I think I think hewould if it's like a West Coast
tribute show or something like that.Yeah, the West Coast. We're just
talking about a Snoop headlining show.Just all right, So just think about
this. What if they took thesuper Bowl for on the road, Okay,
Mary, yeah fifty ye uh DreyHendrick, Ye tell me that wouldn't
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sell? It would Oh yeah?That was all And all of them are
over forty except for Kendrick. Idon't think Kendricks. No, I think
he's but Kendrick mentally is like sixtyKendrick's old soul. He's an old soul.
Kendrick Lamar is thirty five. Damnhe's thirty five. Damn I'm thirty
one. I'm about to be thirtyone. That's nuts correct. So but
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like I would go see that tour, I wouldn't had that tour. I
would go to see Yeah, Iwould, like I remember, I remember
going to Jacksonville, Uh probably andprobably like eight ten years ago now,
and I want to go see shoutout Duval County d But I wanted to
go see it was an R andB T. All right, all right,
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you ready, yeah, one twelve, Okay, next case Um,
who else was there? Uh?Bobby Brown? And no, it wasn't
Joe to see it was Casey andjoejo. It was Casey and Joejoe not
Joe to c as a whole.That's a lot of So think about those
five people in Dougall County. Brolet me tell you the big Rims,
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the thirty two years out, thehuns out. But but but first show
like that, Now, like youwould have to go to just locations like
that. You gotta go to Jacksonville, you gotta go to Tampa. You
gotta go to Miami. You gotlike you have to do with a big
seven here in Baltimore, Yeah,after in the Royal Farms Arena, which
is like a Royal Farms Arena isequivalent to It's not like they don't play
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professional sports there. They play arenafootball, they play like small soccer.
They would also sell out in Atlanta. Uh, it would sell out New
York, North Carolina, Raleigh,Charlotte. Yeah, people do numbers pretty
much most places. Virginia Beach problem, but it would have, but it
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would have to be selective. LikeSitty right now is on tour. Yeah,
yeah, fifty coming to Champa.I think in August. I'm trying
to sift and sifties and sifties sellingout that he's having to add one.
But he's also coolly, this islast tour. He's not going to do
it. Yeah. Yeah, it'slike the final lap, the final lap
tours. That's how old we arethat all of our rappers are doing their
(24:34):
final tours. That's why once wedidn't you know, we didn't have a
guess. I was like cool,I got something to talk about. I
was just waiting for this part,like waiting to you know, let people
know, like, hey, wehere, we don't need a guess.
We can talk music all day.We're just gonna talk about stuff y'all would
really want to talk about but youain't got friends to talk about it when
you stay right here on Real Peoplepodcast. But I would like to,
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you know, probably in the works. I would like to actually book a
show like that, like like puta show like that together. All right?
Cool? So now without without I'mgonna go to Jay first, because
I feel like you're gonna be madextra if you had to pick I name
five I mean five RMB artists rightnow, right right. It's not let's
not do our top five, youknow, nothing like that. Yeah,
(25:21):
but um, if you had topick, let's say six to eight artists,
right um, it doesn't have tostrictly be hip hop. It could
be R and B also, likeyou know, one twelve jackets, who
would you pick for what you got? You got six to eight if we
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if we decided we're gonna do allthe record podcast, you know as the
record podcast, you know concert?Oh yeah, okay, got it,
Jay, who would you pick sixto eight, six to eight artists?
Yep? It could be R andB or hip hop fat join Nori off
the jump just because I want.I want to piss you off. I
(26:07):
told you that in't comfortable. Burnthis Mica off, turn the camera,
look listen. I probably they wouldn'tthey wouldn't do it because I was part
of it. But that was alljokes. That was a Seriously, though,
(26:27):
if I had to pick six eightartists, I'm probably gonna go straight
hip hop because that's just how I'mfeeling in this current moment. I'm sticking
with the big homie Snoop Uncle Snoopcan't go wrong with that. This is
only a live right, like notthat or a live Yeah. But if
we were put on the show,now, let's say we had an investor
that huh, that's a hologram TUPACdon't count not. If we had an
(26:52):
investor that hit me. I waslike, Hey, we like you guys
podcast. You guys are talking aboutin the concert. You know who would
you guys have? We'll see ifwe could fund it. Who's your six
to eight people. I'm not gonnagive you a cap on money because I
don't know all the artists that you'regonna pick. I can give you all
I can give you an idea,but yeah, I don't know all of
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their budgets. Okay, Um,I probably I'm gonna throw. I'm gonna
throw like I'm gonna throw a mix. I'm gonna throw some old schoo artists.
Yeah, I got Snoop, Igot Snoop, I got fifty cents.
I'm gonna go ahead and throw insomebody new where I'm gonna say a
boogie. Jay I, the Princeof Ja, the Prince. He's young
(27:40):
Bull, young bull out of NewYork, skinny, skinny, young man.
He got some he got some dopetracks though, okay, little sing
song, but you know I withhim, but um that fuck shit?
All right, Yeah, I'm gonnago ahead and I'm gonna throw. Why
don't you just say to you knowyou're gonna put him codecs in there?
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Yeah, that's six. You'll watchthis episode. You remember when he said
this, Yeah, yeah, that'ssix. You said, yeah to change?
Is that it? Yeah? I'llthrow in Uh this list, it's
about to be your first of all, Jay, your list is already expense
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and little Way, yeah, littleWayne for that seven seven, Oh Jada
kiss. I don't know if youheard Jadakissar I think I didn't hear Jada.
Yeah, I didn't hear kiss.So that's eight. By the way,
your list is super expensive. It'snever happened, No for sure,
for sure, all right they allall me favors though, so maybe it
might happen. So what we got. Give me a con okay, give
(28:47):
me bus a bus Okay, giveme Luda, okay, give me fetty
wat that from Jersey. You justthrew me off. My whole train of
thought, shout out. You gottabe careful. Remember we're recording anybody can
(29:11):
anybody can say and assholes thing theyknow hip hop and Sei is not old
going to see it all the waybecause oh damn you can see it all
the way through. Fucked up.Um Yeah, I realized I'm trying to
be the Charlottagne day this. Ohboy, I want I want to be
(29:33):
that guy. Okay, happened tothat name because he threw me off with
that said three you said bus bustthe bus ac Luda, uh three,
hey bust the bus acon and thenhe threw it. Yeah you're up to
four four now name four? Okay, So fuck you really threw me off?
(30:02):
Sorry I was I had them alreadyhe was super like man, because
I can actually see this show happening, like I can put you know what
I mean? A con Luda,uh buster buster give me? Oh and
(30:27):
I'm I'm gonna set this all upafter when I name mine. I don't
be like this dude, really yeah? Who als would be in that show?
That would be uh give me youknow, I'll take uh, well,
who would be in that show?That would be? What Acon?
(30:51):
Oh? Uh give me Neo?Okay, I just seen me on concert?
Will you get to that? Thatwas a dope com yeah, like
himself with an orchestra. Nice,give me, give me justin Timberlake.
Okay, and that's what six?That's fine? Six? Yeah, oh
(31:15):
that's fine. No Boston, yeah, ac Acon, yeah, Leo,
Luda, Chris justin Timberlake. Sohe's up to timber six. M six,
let's go with You can stop atsix. I mean, you ain't
gotta go to eight. But no, because because I'm actually thinking about this
show, how much I was intoit, this fucking show. Oh fuck?
(31:41):
Whose only thinking? Well show mysendence Missy Elliott. If you got
bust, you gotta have Missy.You know you don't and you your your
list is over, Bron, Igotta add you said black before your show
is way expensive. I was gonnasay Mariah, but I've heard her sing
(32:04):
lately exactly, exactly exactly, shoutout to Mariah Cannon. Um, this
is the show that's gonna get uscanceled. It. Well, I'm anna,
(32:25):
I'm gonna tag Nick Cannon. I'ma tao because you know you know
what I mean. I love Mariad, Don't get me wrong. I love
Mariad, but I mean, man, stuff happens. Come on, I
mean we can't. What's what's theother two? Let's go with you stopping
at six. I'm gonna stop itsick because the other ones they left my
(32:46):
mind because I had him in linelike I had him. Man, shit,
we gotta add another year of fettywap sentence. Just I'm trying.
I'm trying to who would go goodwith that group? Let's go with the
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locks, bro, I mean,the locks is my answer for everything.
So like, I would put themin any show, Honestly, I would.
I would put them on any show. I didn't say, I didn't
say an artist that was a partof the group wasn't one. Y'all just
saying kiss by himself. Yeah,but but I been, like I said,
locks, I will put him inany show, So let's put him
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in that show. So that's that'syou're at seven now, that's fine.
You're good with seven day already.Yeah, go ahead, yes, right
and meth mm hmm. Then wecome back with the Locks. Nice,
so you're going hard hard heart whothen we come back well, first of
(33:54):
all, because because you came hard. No, no, you came hard,
and like, we gotta have ashow that's gonna everyone's gonna come to.
I mean everyone's gonna come to that. But you know everyone's coming on
this show. What no freaky no, freaky right, go ahead, show,
(34:15):
go ahead? Who you got?So that's true? Right, but
uh you said the locks and thenoh well ray um sorry mess red and
the locks? Three? Yeah,jar rule okay, right, got hit?
(34:36):
No, he does ja rule andfitty. Then I would then I
would do one twelve okay, jacketedge nice, I almost said jacket edge,
and then I would do Drew Hill. You know, I was gonna
say Cisco too, but if wewere doing a throwback show, that's where
I was gonna put him in,and then I would close it out.
(34:58):
With c JK. See how wefucked you up. But then you gotta
and I'm not saying that's the order. I want them to do everything and
that's the closer or whatever. Andthen I would throw in Janet Jackson,
(35:20):
Janet jack Son, and if so, what if I couldn't get Janet Jackson,
I would do new edition, newedition. Just think about that lineup.
It gives you every perspective of yourlife. If you're our age.
Yeah, it's like what you said, I came hard, pause and then
I softened it up. You did, you did, But if you if
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you put those if you put thatlineup together, Obviously the Jay's and the
Nags of the world, we're leavingthem out because really you know that's yeah,
I mean I might, we mightnot be able to afford Janet Jackson
everybody else. I feel like it'sdoable. Yeah, but you gotta do
it on the beach. Yeah,MTV old style style on a resort beach
(36:10):
like where Tone works. Almost almostshouted it out, but they ain't paying
for it, so we're not gonnashot him out. But think about the
Tone where you work your day jobon the beach, right outside the club.
The stage right there. Tell meI foxed with it. I really
(36:30):
foxed with it. So if wethrew a throwback show, yea. But
yeah, if we threw a throwbackshow, I'm I'm with it. I'm
because I think all them let youjump. Let me know if that'll be
(36:50):
a show that you would come outto you because I'm really curious how many
people will come out to that show. I mean not the whole entire show.
We can do like two one oneone month and then maybe bring back
into another moment and another two.Like you gotta understand, like, yeah,
that's a that's a big nut,you know, so to speak,
like to put out there. Butwhen they have the wild things on,
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um, what's what's the radio stationout there? And see people they have,
Yeah, when they have those concertson the beach, Yeah, I
don't know, I've never been there. I don't know what it looks like.
But you know, you have tohave a significant thing. But where
where you are, Yeah, that'slike you take over the whole resort.
You can see it from the room, so to speak. You can those
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rooms you charge more for you lockdown the whole hotel. Like yeah,
you see, I had some thoughtinto this, right, I mean,
but I think that would be superdup. Yeah, I wish I could
book shows like that because I haveso many ideas, but so many people
are so expensive. It's so expensiveto you. What's expensive to you?
(38:00):
You? And what's the artist you? Well, well, I'm gonna give
you an example, Like we likebooking DJs. They were charging like thirty
forty K for an hour of playing. You care to say? Who are
Okay? Um, it's a lotof the bigger DJs. How much How
much would you charge? How muchwould you pay for? And I'll give
(38:22):
y'all both a chance to guess beforeI save the number for juve for juvenile
Yeah m hm, I just hadsomebody in that book I would I would
be more than him. Well yournumber, yeah, yeah, because because
juvenile like I grew up with juvenilelike like his music, Yeah you didn't,
(38:43):
So, like I said, minewould be a little bit more InCred
I get that man like seventy fivehundred seventy five Yeah all right, So
all right, I mean I wasactually in the same like ten. That's
that's me being generous knowing that he'san og, he's got a crowd,
and he could that's around the ballparkor what he calls because if if you
ask me how much I would wantto give him, like based on that,
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because that's that's your experience, Likehe's gonna sell more tickets than that.
But at the same time, toyou, that's what he would be
worth because he didn't, he didn'thave no effect on your life. You
also got to remember it depends onwhere you deal you have with the venue
you look, ye right, ye, so like in in in um the
(39:30):
beach spot. Will just call itthat from here on now, the beach
spot. If I was allowed totake over that whole spot and get the
rooms plus control the weekend, yeahI would because I would sell the rooms
for a little bit more than youknow what they're giving them to me for
(39:50):
because I know that front area thatyou could see the beach, that you
could see the stage and see everything. And then you have that other spot
that that's closed um after breakfast.You know you have that as like a
meet and greet beforehand, like aVIP area like you can you can sell
that spot. And again you seethat we would be very limited on shows
(40:14):
if we did something there, verylimited on shows. Oh yeah, yeah,
I know, I really really thetime. Ye like DJ Camello,
we could do that, but anyanything else than that is I mean,
like I said, we can bringSerrani up. We can do a lot
of R and B. We coulddo R and B. Yeah, we
did think about breaking. Yeah,when you think about reggae, we bring
(40:36):
Serrani out. He's doing numbers broand some of these new some of these
new vis vibes. Get out.Rob's still in jail. I think,
no, Yeah, I thought hewas getting out. I thought he was
like Loomis, back back on theroad making money. Oh yeah, she
still she still gets paid overseas.She probably gets about last time I talked
(40:57):
to her. I think like twelvefifteen, the show something like that.
I heard Bad Bunnies getting like Ithink it was like too much. Yeah,
it was like a million or likemaybe maybe half of that, but
I think it was like a millionstuff. I still had to attach to
his girl to get them side.So he went on tickets on the side,
he went on tour and made themost as a touring artist in history.
(41:19):
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I still don't know any of
his music. Yeah, it justmakes me proud. You know Fuerto Rican
people's right there. But I mean, I'm not saying that he's like not
a not a good artist. I'mjust saying I don't. I don't know
stuff. Yeah, I don't.I don't. I don't speak Spanish,
but I know I know them James, you know, I know, I
know, like the worst he hadwith Cardy b that you know, and
(41:42):
she's sampled up. Oh yeah,yeah, yeah, that was like the
first time I heard of him.After that, I'm like, shout out
to Cardi. He's been real quietlately. Well she she's getting up the
song. Yeah, but we needwe need more Cardy in our lives.
Cardi, if you're watching this athome, we need some cards do Yeah,
we absolutely need. I don't wantto see her back beating nasa is
(42:05):
on reality TV. I need hermusic all day. I don't care if
she writes it or not. Idon't care about that either. At this
point in my life, I reallydon't care, right, Like, if
you got the money to pay somebodylike didd he said, I don't.
I don't care if I write rounds, I write checks. Do you think
you think any ghostwriters went on strikewith the writer strike no ghostwriters is like,
(42:29):
no, I need any check.I could get it. Yeah,
And if somebody hit me up fora verse right now, I tell my
wife. Yeah, I'm still inthis room, still in the podcast room.
I gotta do something. So showafter the show, we're gonna talk
about putting the show together because Ithink we can do something. I don't
mind, you know me, don't. I'm all. I'm all about,
(42:50):
like especially working with jobs, youknow whatever, like um, there's certain
people that an't hit me up.And I don't care if you're watching this,
like I would just be like,yeah, right cool, yeah,
you know whatever. If you knowpeople got the money and they want to
put the money up, I got, yeah, I got. I don't
know, y'all to him? Youever seen Crush Grew the movie? I
think I think I asked this before. It doesn't ring about you talked about
(43:13):
it the movie or something like that. Yeah, it's about death Jam.
We talked about it. So it'sbasically about how Um Russell Simmons and what's
the white boys name John claud vandem Sorry I press you even know who
(43:34):
that is? Rick Rubin? Howhow Rick Rubin and h Russell Simmons shared
a dorm room and that's how theycame up with death Jam. And they
were trying to push um Curtis Blowat the time, they were trying to
push Run DMC, which is wellRun, which is um Russell Simmons brother
(43:58):
and then uh Ussell Simmons, Imean Run went behind Russells and his brother's
back signed another deal with somebody else. Sheila Eve was involved. I don't
know if you know who she reallyis. The Fat Boys, you know,
so they had this U they hadthis uh showcase at a spot called
the Fever in the Bronx. SalAbotillo was the owner of the Fever and
(44:21):
yeah, ye Curtis Blow Fat BoysNew edition UM Run DMC performed there of
like it's a legendary spot in theBronx. I have an old email that
Sal set me and I was goingthrough my my you know, remember I
told you I was, you know, going through my ig. Have an
(44:44):
old email at Sal sent me yoshow call me. We gotta talk,
so anything I can call that manand he has and his his reach right
now, he got hip hop reach, but his reach is like Judy Torres,
the Zeppeldez, Stevie, Bad ck A. You know, like
those type of house you know,like Jake, what what our parents used
(45:07):
to fucking you know, Saturday morningyou fabulo sold out the crib, you
know what I mean? Like andnobody understands that. The reach I have
with that music is Judy Torre Jr. Judy Torre's first hit single was about
my uncle because they used to dateabout it. That's when you know you
(45:37):
got it. So we're gonna doa real people off the record. I
don't know, but what do youwant to call it? We could,
we could talk about that often.But if we get look, if we
can get them, if we canget the beat spot, I'm down with
it. Real people on the beach. I'm down with it because, Bro,
(45:58):
if we can make a deal withthe that's a deal for everything.
Yeah, I'm all right with that. But we gotta again, we got
to talk about the caliber artist becausewe changed to bring Yeah, we're not
gonna bring Junior Read in there withyou know, Bob Marley and yeah,
you know Jim Jones on the bells. I know that's not rest in peace.
(46:22):
So yeah, we'll talk about that. We want to talk about it.
Hell yeah, hell yeah? Whatelse we got going? What else
we got going? Man? Somethingabout versus with some of these verses been
a little stuff that I've been recorded, Man, I haven't put it out
yet, so I kind of justbeen one of them I sent you was
more of like a concept track.I don't even think I had ad libs
(46:44):
or anything on there, but um, yeah, man, what are you
gearing up for? You gearing upfor an album? Oh? Yeah,
you know, I was about that. I'm just putting out singles right now,
at least that's the focus. I'mnot really trying to work on the
album. We're trying to get backon the road with the Tray Cleft,
which is a music group I'm apart of, so we're trying to make
moves there right now. I'm moreso shifted my focus and and what we
were just talking about event planning.So we just did smoke Fest. We're
(47:07):
actually I probably shouldn't even announce it, but fuck it, we're here.
I don't want to just say it. And were actually putting together smoke Fest
Tampa because we did it in Lakeland, so we're getting ready to have it
out here towards Tampa side. Wealready have a venue that we're in talks
with so hopefully, you know,I could go ahead and close that deal,
make sure we get for next yearin four twenty or yeah, this
(47:28):
is gonna be like a like asecond edition, like we want to have
our four twenties. So the thingis the thing about smoke Fest is especially
in Lakeland. You know, Lakelandsa pretty conservative town. You know,
you got great dud as the sheriff. So they first first smoke Fest was
like downtown Lakeland. Second smoke Festwas also in downtown Lakeland. That third
smoke Fest like after that, theywere like, yeah, downtown Lakeland don't
(47:50):
even want to surround here, Likethey're like, hell no, every time
y'all come out here is we gettingsmoked. It's all types of ship going
down. So that's why how wasthat first? How was that? The
last move question that we just passed? It was dope. It was people
wise, you know, yeah,yeah, we probably had like what what
what it looked like probably about onehundred and fifty people, one hundred and
fifty maybe two hundred people. Itwas solid. We had so many vendors
(48:13):
out there. Uh, the onevendor that that really caught my eye.
I had to get food from them. It was I'm looking at their menu.
It's on a dry race board,and it's just poorly written and shitty
hand riding. It's like steak andshrimp, chicken and wings or chicken and
fries, and you know what Imean. And I'm looking this thing from
the bottom up, and then allof a sudden I get to the top
and it's just says hood Bocchi,And I'm like, oh, this the
fucking thing. The thing wait,it said hood Bocchi Bro, and these
(48:37):
motherfuckers was cooking some ship, bro, hood Bocchi Bro. So shouts out
to Hoodbacchi. I need them topull up to every every event we put
together because them boy doing it.Bro. That ship was so funny,
Bro, the most ghetto thug dudeslooking just cooking up Bacchi Bro. They
we wasn't doing another fancy tricks.But yeah, it was. It was
dope. It was a solid turnout. Um. You know, my performance
(48:59):
probably it could have been a littlebetter. I wasn't too happy. It
wasn't my best set, but youknow it wasn't It wasn't terrible. What
did it? What didn't you like? I just didn't. I just felt
like going up there, my energywas off. I was like to spread
out. So I had, likemy cousin who was having a vendor table.
My girl had a vendor table.So I think my focus was more
so like it was also my cousin'sbirthday, so I was like trying to
(49:21):
Yeah. Yeah, it was likethe new environment. I kind of hijacked
my cousin's birthday. It was likeyeah, at first, I dragged him
along, but when he got there, he was like, Okay, I
thought with this, you know whatI mean? It was it was dope
vibe, but I could tell hewas a little upset, like brothers almost
my cousin's you know, he takeshis birthdays like his day. So I
was trying to make sure he hada good time. My girl's super pregnant.
She had a vendor table. Soeven my boy was asked. He's
(49:42):
like, yeah, we were lookingfor you and all the pictures we didn't
find you. I was like,yeah, why bad. I was kind
of like attentions. Yeah, Sowhen I got up on stage, it
was like an issue with the music. We sat up sat up there for
like ten awkward. Well, itfelt like it was probably like five awkward
minutes while they were getting it wasjust fucked up. Then halfway through the
second song, the song just cutoff. I don't know, I don't
know whose fault that was. I'mgonna blame the DJ, but we were
(50:02):
also on on a pretty ship stage. You know, you know it's always
protected DJ shouts out to the DJ, but you know, I wasn't feeling
him in that moment. You know, probably wasn't his fault, but I
just feel like a lot of shitwas was. You know, I didn't
feel great about that. Said,you know what happens. You know,
I feel like it could have beenmy I know my energy was off right
(50:23):
from the jump. So but withthat being said, everybody else was fucking
lit. Everybody was lit. Iwas proud of So I had my young
artists come out. Lee Malu,I'm gonna have her on the show,
and it was her second show,and she fucking murdered that ship. Bro,
Like I was proud, like she. I felt like a proud big
bro right there, even though,like you know, she's my people's I
watched to grow up and she killedthat ship, bro, Like nice,
(50:46):
nice, You gotta send us somemusic prayers, So we can uh you
know see what she what she whatshe about? What she got. But
I'm gonna say something to y'all andthis is gonna be exclusive because I don't
want to know other guests to understandthis. So um July twenty, yep,
I will be in studio with youguys. I ain't gonna be honest
(51:08):
zoom July twentieth. We're gonna bethere and we're gonna turn it up a
little bit. We don't have somefun from July twentieth for sure. For
sure j July twenty because I'll bein town. I'll be that way to
do some softball things. So I'ma fly in a day earlier just to
(51:30):
be in studio with your guys.Nice, chill with you guys. Mark
it on your calendars. July twenty. If we're gonna turn up, it's
gonna be something different, and uh, you never know who might pop up
with me. So we're just leavinga nice say that, say that,
and say that he less. Wemight have to because we're still planning dates.
(51:50):
So maybe, you know, maybewe try to do smoke Fest Tampa
around that time. It might alsobe twenty Hey, you know what you
know, what let's let's do thisand we can talk about to talve camera.
Maybe I'll stretch you July twenty.If if you got bars and you're
seeing this right now, go tothe email that's down in the description.
We'll set up another mic and we'regonna see if you really got bars.
(52:13):
July twenty, if you could bein studio with us, if you really
got bars, send us what yougot and we'll pick a couple of artists
and we'll set them up right nextto us and see if you've got bars
for real, because I'll spit thatnight. I'll go on I'll go on
record and say I'll even spit thatnow, Oh calendar, July twentieth,
I'll spit that. Now. Wecan have like you know, bring some
beats, bring some beats. I'llbring some beats. I'll bring some beats.
(52:37):
I have no problem with that.We can get we can get Chemos
to give us some beats. Wecan shout out Chemos every time you know,
we play his beat. We geta couple of the producers to give
some beats. But if you gotbars, you think you got bars,
send us some songs, send usyour best bars. And then between the
three of us, We'll pick acouple of artists or whatever. We'll set
up a mic on the side witha tone. We'll set up a micael
(53:00):
aside. We'll do a little interviewwith everybody a couple of minutes. But
then you don't have to spit something. You can't spit something, don't come
tone, you're gonna wrap if weall wrap it up out like I said,
let's bring some beats and let's doJuly twenty. We did full effect.
Nice with that being said, ladiesand gentlemen, thank you for joining
(53:21):
us so real people Off the Recordpodcast. We will see you next week.
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