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Every week join former Marine and retired crime analyst and police officer Dale Lawrence and co-host Dave Rattigan, a former newspaper reporter and currently a college professor/comedian for dark humor and current events. Together, they spin the Wheel of Misfortune. Where will it land, possibly on an unusual, ironic, and sometimes tragic story from the wide, wide world of zaniness and depravity?
In this week’s podcast we will discuss the case of 16-year-old Miranda Corsette who was reported missing last month and was killed, dismembered and left in a dumpster by a couple in Florida who kidnapped her after luring her via a social media app.
Also, just because you have perfect attendance and you are a high school honors student doesn't mean you’re not a PSYCHO! Tune in and see what we mean...
Every week join former Marine and retired crime analyst and police officer Dale Lawrence and co-host Dave Rattigan, a former newspaper reporter and currently a college professor/comedian for dark humor and current events. Together, they spin the Wheel of Misfortune. Where will it land, possibly on an unusual, ironic, and sometimes tragic story from the wide, wide world of zaniness and depravity?
In this week’s podcast we will discuss the case of 16-year-old Miranda Corsette who was reported missing last month and was killed, dismembered and left in a dumpster by a couple in Florida who kidnapped her after luring her via a social media app.
Also, just because you have perfect attendance and you are a high school honors student doesn't mean you’re not a PSYCHO! Tune in and see what we mean...
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Miss fortune go standing around.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome to week three of the Wheel of Misfortune. I'm Dave,
and that's Dale former Cup and I'm Dave comedian and
I did this, and I've done that, and I've done
all kinds of things. But one thing I know about
is I know about misfortune. I'm kind of an expert
on that.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I'm sure you are.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So Dale. You ready to go?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm ready to go, Dave. I hope we got some
good ship this week. I got a few emails from
our listeners, and they want us to up our game.
They want to hear some Gore, some real crazy stories, Dave.
So we're gonna spin the wheel right now and see
where it lands. It looks like David's teetering between humpty
(01:11):
dumpty and perfect attendance. What do you think, Dave, which
one should we do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'd go with the Humpty Dumpty?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh you would. Yeah, I'm not talking about you looking
in the merry either. Rat again, all right, I'm just
didn't I didn't write that. My wife told me to
say that. Yeah, the one who loves you told me
to say something.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I'll tell you the most defensive thing that you've said
so far, just telling our listeners that we get emails. Oh,
that's just blatant lying. So tell us about Humpty Dumpty,
all right.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So for those of you who don't know Humpty Dumpty,
let me just give you a little snippet of the rhyme.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a
great fall. All the king's horses and all the King's
men couldn't put Humpty together again. So that's a great
lead in to our first tragic story of the week.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
A couple in Florida a facing murder chargers after the
body of a teenage girl they allegedly met through a
dating app was left dismembered in a dumpster, authorities said.
The Saint Petersburg Police Department confirmed on Friday, March seventh
that the body of sixteen year old Miranda Corsett was
(02:21):
left in a dumpster, nearly two weeks after she was
first reported missing on February twenty fourth. Please said that
the suspect, Stephen Gress and if you see his picture
in the paper, you can tell he's a criminal that's
just coming from a cop allegedly met course set on
a dating app and lured her to meet him at
(02:41):
his home in Saint Petersburg, Florida, on February fourth. What
about you, Dave, about lure any girl through a dating app,
because I know that's where you find most of your girls.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I no, no, but it's gone the other way.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh they've lured you. I'm sure they have.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh, let's not get into it. This is only like
a thirty five minute podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We can't go into all that. That'd be we'd be
here all night, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So authorities believe that Corset staved with Gress and his partner,
Michelle Brandis, and looking at her picture, she looks even
more psychotic than him. She's thirty seven years old, and
it was at their home, and that her grandmother, who
the young girl used to live with, reported her missing
to the Gulf Port Police on February twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Are you talking about their booking photos? Their booking photos,
booking photos?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, does anyone look good in a booking photo?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Some there's actually some websites out there most attractive booking photos,
and they're good looking girls or in your case, Dave,
you might be looking at the good looking guys. But yeah,
know there's a whole. There's a bunch of websites out
there that do that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So let me ask you this. In your experience, all right,
when you book somebody, when you took their picture, did
you ever make an arrest? I made a few? A few.
Anybody ever look good in the booking? No, they don't, Dave,
they don't do people intentionally, and.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Some people just like to look mean where other people
are either intoxicated, they're pissed off that they got arrested,
they're suffering from mental health issues. Their hairs all they're
all disheveled and their hairs all over the place. Her hair,
I'm looking at your hair today. What's up with your hair?
I'm thinking about turning myself in. You might want to
turn yourself in. So let's get back to the story.
(04:20):
So the commander or the acting police chief of Gulf
Port Police Department said that local police are very familiar
with this young girl Corsett, because she's a frequent runaway
and she has a history of mental health issues as
well as drug abuse. Now, when you look at her
and you say mental health issues and drug abuse, she'd
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be considered an easy victim because she's a young girl.
She was homeschooled, so she probably doesn't have a lot
of friends, so she meets people. She's on a dating
app at sixteen years old. I don't know if that's
common or not, but she's on a dating app at sixteen,
So she's a very easily manipulate by a couple of psychopaths.
(05:02):
And they're the ones who they manipulate those type of
kids because they're very vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, just going forward, if just if you need any ideas, Dave,
very vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Dave, Well, it's uh yeah, it's one of the joys
of the Internet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
One of the really bad parts of the Internet is
that predators can prey on young kids out dare Well.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
This is one of the things that I teach you
and try to mass communications social media, and one of
the things that we teach is the fact that the
Surgery General came out with a report and said one
of the good things about the Internet is kids who
are different, and you know, sometimes they can find communities,
you know, you know, people who like anime, people who
my kid who might be gay at this, you know
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this interest out of.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Maybe I mean, Charles Manson would have had a field
day on the internet. You would have had many, many
members in his group.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And that's the flip side. A lot of these I'd
just say, a lot of social media sites have got
a lot of predators. Yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So back to the story to this. Now, the grandmother
was the primary caregiver for this young girl, and the
grandmother stated that she runs away a lot, she doesn't
come home a lot, and the grandmother doesn't always report
her missing. So there was a delay at ten day
delay I believe, from the time she left to the
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time she was reported missing, which was right around February
twenty fourth, if you're looking at the timeline like the
timeline in which she was murdered. However, they haven't found
the body yet. They're looking at between February twentieth and
the twenty fourth, And the alleged motive behind the murder
(06:39):
was that the two older adults, the male and the female,
the ones who lured this young girl in, used the
kind of explanation that they thought she had stole some
of their jewelry, so that's why they beat her to
death over a few days and tormented or and tortured her.
So that's kind of their excuse. So the police get
the information that she missing, they stopped looking for her
(07:02):
and at some point, and I believe it might have
been some form of an informant that stated that they
killed the young girl. Then they brought her body to Largo, Florida,
which belonged to Brandis's mother, which is the female defendant
in this case. And they had a search warrant for
the home and they found evidence that there was some
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form of body that was cut up there, whether it
was blood evidence, DNA evidence, bone fragment evidence, whatever they
found at that house during the search. They made the
conclusion that someone was cut up and it was that
young girl and she was thrown in the dumpster somewhere
and they haven't found her body yet. So that tells
(07:44):
you they're going to be looking through landfills everywhere in
like the Hillsboro County of Florida. I don't know how
many landfills there are, how many dump sites there are.
That's a pretty gory job. That's what was involved in that.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Thank you, thank you. This is good. It'll give me
nightmares about my own teenage for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh it's crazy, But like I said, there's always a
psycho out there, and there's always a vulnerable young girl,
and she spun the wheel and it came up snake
eyed dice for this young kid, and she just ran
into two complete psychopaths? Have they killed before? Is this
the first time they've ever killed? Are there other missing kids?
Are missing people in that area that are unaccounted for?
(08:23):
There could be. I haven't heard that yet, But you
look at these people like, is it the first time
they've ever done this? It might be, it might not be.
Where have they lived before? This is what the cops
should be looking at, right, And have they lived in
Texas or the northeast or something like that? And the
other missing people? So that this case could unravel to
more victims potentially.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
What are the possibilities that these people have said that
they beat her because they thought she's stole some jewelry?
Maybe that was exactly it, you know, whether she stole
it or not. What do you think the chances are
maybe that these two people just really thought she stole
the jerk?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That's like I said, you kill her and cut her
up and throw away, right, Dave? Is your point?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, I'm saying you beat her. She dies accidentally, Then
you think, how were we going to hide this body and think,
I know it's a good idea, she does cut her off.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, there's probably a five percent chance that they're not guilty.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh no, no, I think that's definitely guilty. My point is,
my point is, is there any chance that to happen
the way they've said it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's possible. I mean, it's possible, But let me give
you let's let's take a walk inside the criminal mind.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Many really psychotic criminals. They can rationalize in their own
head why they would do something, And to them, that's logical. Hey,
we invited her over, we gave her some drugs, we
might have had some sex, and she stole a wedding ring,
my grandmother's wedding ring. So that's why we killed her.
(09:47):
And then we cut her up because we didn't want
to get caught. To them, it's logical. But to me
and you, Dave the voices of reason, that's very illogical.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, I guess My only point is there is there
a possibility to that was So you don't think there's
any possibility this was a one time thing? You think these.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
People, No, I think it's possible that it wasn't a
one time thing. But that's up to the cops down
there to see if there's any anything going on in
other places of locals throughout the country. They'll go into
the Violent Criminal Apprehension program the FBI uses. We're kind
of going a little off track, but it's the database
that they look for similar crimes throughout the country and
(10:24):
they try to link them up.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So I'm let's say, with whatever Brockton Police and I'm
in the cold case unit or I've got whatever, even
if they're cold case unite. Okay, I'm in the cold
case unit. And this comes across my desk that you know,
but that these killers were living in the Brocton area
between nineteen two thousand and five and two thousand and seven,
(10:46):
and so I just kind of flipped through see if
there are any.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Absolutely, then you call Florida and say, hey, what are
the dynamics of your case, because we have a missing
girl up here that we've never sold fifteen years ago
that could happen. Hopefully it doesn't happen. Hopefully this is
the only victim that these two maniacs have come across.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But you never know, Dave, Oh, We're just off to
a great start.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
All right, Dave, maybe you can live in and up
with one of your stories here today, Dave, Well, let's
spin the wheel for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Let's go right now, Oh beautiful, Well title this one
snowman on the run. Who would think, Dale that a
snowboarder would be involved with drugs?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
No way, especially an Olympic snowboarder, right, Dave.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Well, that's the big thing. That's what makes this so ironic.
But what makes it timely and makes it great for
us is uh, you know, we want to celebrate when
people hit milestones always. And the former Canadian Olympic snowboarder
apparently is behind a massive transnational drug ring and he
(11:49):
just got placed on the FBI's most wanted list, So
number ten. Congratulations, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I didn't look if you were probably ten. So now
you bumped to eleven days and you're all right?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Now I should be I should be well, I should
congratulate him. And if I congratulated him and he returned
my call, I would say to him, so where are
you living now? And he would tell me and I
would call the FBI. So the case, Dave, and my
reward for that would be ten million dollars.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Oh is it ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Bumped him up. They really the reward on him was
five hundred thousand. It's now ten million dollars. He's believed
to be in Mexico, and there's another rumor about him
that he's been asked to coach the Mexican bobsled team.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Bob's in Mexico. It must Bob slid on like saying,
is something like that a dirt dave through the barrios
of Guadalajara.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So this is from UPI. Former Canadian Olympic snowboarder from
two thousand and two. Ryan James Wedding was added to
the most the ten most one fugitalist on Thursday of
last week, March six, US authorities hunt for the man
that they issues of operating in this trafficking operation. There
believed to be a few murders in this there were
(12:59):
three that he's uh, I think there were three where
he's He's considered to be one of the main suspects
along with his partner. Quote he should be considered armed
and dangerous. Ryan James Wedding, this is still a quote
from that story. Is wanted for allegedly running and participating
in a transnational drug traffic operation that routinely shipped hundreds
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of kilograms of cocaine from Columbia through Mexico and southern
California to Canada and other locations in the United States.
The FBI said in a statement, no comment on whether
or not they had to pay the tariffs.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, you had to throw that in, yeah, Dave, Well, listen,
I didn't say anything about trans.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, Dave. Whatever you said, drug cartel, Mexico and drugs.
Whenever you have those variables together, they're all going to
be equal to murder, Dave. Someone's always getting murdered when
you're talking about the drug cartels. So three murders that's
always possibly linked to it's probably thirty, Dave. Well, yeah,
we'll stick with three.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's at least three for four or wedding in. His
co conspirator named a guy named Andrew Klark who is
in custody.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Why do you get to kill him, Dave? Can't you
just take the drugs and let let him go? I
why does everyone always have to kill someone?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know? I think there's a lot of greed in
that business. Yeah, I think there's a lot of greed.
In that business.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So if you kill the guy instead of split in
a three ways, Dave, we kill the guy me and
you split a fifty to fifty. And if I decide
to kill you Dave, it's one hundred percent for me.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, and somebody else decides they want to cut in
in your territory, and so you've got to do something
about that person. And somebody might go to the cops.
So you have to take care of that person. I
saw breaking bad goes. Anyway, whoever wrote the press release
they quoted, they quote a guy named kill Davis, assistant
director for the FBI's Los Angeles Field Office, said in
(14:44):
a statement, quote Wedding went from shredding powder on the
slopes of the Olympics to distributing powder cocaine in the
streets of US cities in his native Canada.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's an indicator that the FBI has been trying just
as hard as we have to come up with pun
to describe this situation. For example, there's Olympic snowboarder goes
from half pipes to crackpipes.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
There you go, day, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Or or quote they'll put them on a box of
frosted wheaties. And then my personal favorite Olympics were nice
days for a white wedding. Oh boy, name was wedding?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So is there a list of a long list of
Olympians has been arrested or committed murder? Do you happen
to have that or not?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I don't want to put you on the spot, Dave.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Coincidentally, I did my research and I found a website
called Olympedia and uh olympedia dot com, and there's a
long list. There's a long list of former Olympics, some
many from the United States. I didn't see another one
from Canada. But there's a long list, some from the
United States and from some from countries all over the world.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I got one. Is he on the list? Oscar Pretarius
from Celta, South Africa? South Africa?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
No? I know Oscar well.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Actually he was like a special Olympian, Dave. He had
like the fake legs and he allegedly shot his girlfriend.
I didn't shoot his girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
He just got to remember him. Yeah, he must be
on there.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
He must be.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't know that he Isn't.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
There any special Olympians on their days?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I didn't check for special Olympians. Why you look at
his friends, the down Syndrome crew that that's gonna be
taken the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'll cut that out, Dave.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Going from olympian to outlaw is pretty ironic. Here's the
worst case, by the way, I thought, at least I
thought so again. Named fille Fami of Iraq, a track
athlete in nineteen sixty, became a general in the army.
He was from a prominent Iraqi family. Led the Iraqi
delegation to the Olympics in nineteen eighty four. In in
(16:43):
nineteen eighty six, he was arrested, imprisoned, and eventually executed.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Executed for insulting by Saiddam Hussein.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
There you go, Dave, in front of fellow military officers.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, I don't mess around with those countries over there, Dave,
you don't insult anyone.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No word, no word on what he did to insult
hussaying that badly? What do you think he said?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
What could he say that would insult Saddam Hussein? Nice mustache,
nice mustache, you're alayah, you're a cheat, you're a thief.
What else could he say?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't know what he said, all right, anyway, we're
gonna move on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
We don't even have to spin the wheel, Dave, because
we spun it earlier and we picked humpty dumpty and
now we have perfect attendance. We should probably be calling
it killer Kids, Dave, because this is another disturbing story.
Oh yeah, yeah, pretty much so. In Wisconsin, a seventeen
year old teenager who never missed a day of school
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suddenly stopped showing up, leading police to discover his mom
and stepdad murdered in their home. Nikita case apps two
week absence from Keisha West High School, as well as
weird or suspicious text messages sent from his stepfather's phone,
prompted police do a welfare check at the family's residence
(18:06):
on February twenty eighth. The school resource officer, which I
used to be, Dave, I used to do welfare checks
when kids didn't come to school. Really yeah, but in
this case, so these are two weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Although these are well fait checks for kids, because I
know there's also well checked well fit checks four.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
For adult elderly people. But yeah, if you're the school
resource officer and you know and the school brings it
to your attention. Hey, this kid hasn't missed the day
of school since kindergarten. It is last year of school.
We haven't seen him in two weeks. We've called the house.
No one's seen him, no one's heard from him. So
you go to the house and do a welfare check.
And usually welfare checks, Dave, they usually don't turn out
(18:44):
too well.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Can I tell you well, Yes, I got a well
fit check story that was told to me by a
chief of police from a from a small town around here. Okay,
this one turns out much night, much better than yours.
This is a This was a case where it was
an elder person. Person was fine, but they knocked on
the front door. Nothing. There are two cops. They knocked
in the back door. Nothing. So, as you know, procedure
(19:08):
is you try to find another way into the house
and just try and make sure everything's okay. And so
one guy was gonna go through an open window, bathroom window,
and he's gonna let the other guy in. So he's
going through the window and long story short, a big cop,
small window, taking a while, and all of a sudden,
the cop in the ground here says, couplunk, and he
looks up and he goes, what's going on. The guy
(19:29):
at the window says, my gun slipped out of my
holster the toilet and the toilet and the cop in
the ground looks up and says, hey, quit shooting the
shit and come open the door.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh, there you go. So they did their welfare check, Dave.
That's a good welfare check. Mine never turned out that one.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
No, never good now, especially when you do elderly people.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Usually if you see the mail piled up, or the
newspaper back in the day when they used to deliver newspapers,
and then you can kind of have this weird smell,
or you look in the window you see a whole
bunch of flies bouncing around and baggots on the windows,
you kind of know, Dave. It's called a clue. It's
a clue that someone in there is dead.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Is that the last time you have them?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah? Pretty much last time I had a clue, all right.
So the cops go there and they find the mother, Tatiana,
buried under some clothes with a bullet wound in her
shoulder and her face was blackened from decomposition, with dried
blood on the floor around her. So she's probably in there.
A couple of weeks her husband, Donald Mayer, was also
(20:31):
found under some clothing with an obvious wound to the
back of his head. They didn't say a gunshot wound.
They just said a wound. So the young man, seventeen
year old Nikita, was subsequently arrested for driving without a
license during a traffic stop in Wakini, Kansas, some eight
hundred and fifty miles away. He was driving his dad's
(20:53):
or his stepdad's Volkswagon Atlas with the family dog inside.
Davey Ago, his co conspirator in this incident. Also in
the car was a Smith and Wesson three point fifty
seven magnum handgun, which was, according to police, registered to
his stepfather, his deceased stepfather. So, based on that traffic
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stop for driving without a license, he faces six years
in Kansas if he's convicted. He hasn't been charged with
the murdy yet, Dave, we don't know if that weapon
that they found was the weapon used to shoot at
least his mother, because they didn't say that the father
was shot. I'm sure he was shot, but they didn't
(21:38):
say he was shot.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Maybe he was oh back of the head.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You could have been hit in the back of the
head with a baseball bad day or something like that,
an iron or a frying pan, Like how many of
your ex wives assaulted you with a frying pan?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Dave? You know something? At one point I could have
probably told you the number. But after we get hit
in the head enough, he started to forget those things.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, so this case is still it's still open, Dave.
There is a few questions, or there's a lot of questions.
He did he kill his parents? Did he kill his.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Parents to come home? Seen it, freaked out and took off.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Absolutely he could have. I mean, people under those type
of stressful situations react differently. He could have just fled
in his father's car with the dog, running as far
away from the bad guy as he could. But every
time he looked in the mirror of Dave, you want
to know what he saw, he saw the bad guy?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Did you think so?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I think he probably did. It sounds almost logical to me,
almost almost logically. No, he has he hasn't been charged yet.
He hasn't been charged.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
But he wouldn't be charged right away, right, I mean,
they're gonna have to do an investigation. But what type
of gun he has killed right his family? What kind
of what kind of a gun? What was the wound
in the father's back, back of the father's head.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Is it DNA evidence there? But his DNA is going
to be there.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
His DNA is definitely going to be there. But I
guess the thick question is how many other people's DNA
is there a with the DNA?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
There is there an unknown DNA? And maybe the kid
didn't kill his parents and he reacted.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Maybe the way we think he.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Might have watched it. He could have watched I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I mean, he might have come in, he might have
freaked out. I mean, given his history, you know, given
given his school record, it would seem like if you're
an honor school, if you're an if you're an honors.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Student who never missed the day in school.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Who never missed a day in school, you'll probably a
pretty good kid.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You're probably smart enough to cover the crime scene a
lot better than he did.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, well he was paying if again, he could have
been panicanna or he could have been I don't know.
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, it's an interesting case. I mean, you don't want
to assume that he did it. He he looks like
someone who might have done it. The situation looks as
though he might have done it, But there's a lot
of people that look guilty in domestic situations and they're
not guilty. They're just there, and then you feel bad
when you when when you think they're guilty.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know what I mean, Dave, Yeah, I do. What
do you think? The chances are that the cops who
are investigating this have already got it in their head
that he's guilty and they're not looking at any further.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That happens a lot in law enforcement. You can get
really focused on one specific suspect because it's a domestic situation,
there's a gun involved, he fled the scene. There was
some suspicious text messages from the father's phone. They don't
text message, they don't say what they were. But a
lot of times people who do something bad to you
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and they have your phone, what they'll do is they'll
send text messages from the phone to make people think
that the person who was killed is still alive. So
it's like they were still texting, but they were dead.
I just stole your phone, Dave. So killers do that that.
You can see that historically in many cases, but it's
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kind of a real simple thing. Most law enforcement people
will look at that right off the bat. Where were
those text messages sent?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
What's the location?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
If they're opinion on the eight hundred and fifty mile
route from where he lived to where he was picked up.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And they say they were suspicious because the way you
talk or the way someone text is someone else. A
lot of times you can tell it doesn't sound like
me texting Dave. Right, it sounds like someone else has
Dave's phone if that ever happened, Dave, I don't know
that I'd call nine one one for you.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I don't know if i'd help you. I probably should.
But yeah, you can tell how someone talks and how
someone texts you or sends you an email, the way
they the way they put words together.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
If they put punctuation, you know their certain age. If
they don't put punctuation, they're another age communications professor. Right, yeah,
but they're one paragraph, they're probably a teenager.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Look at you. I didn't know that, Dave. Wow. Yeah,
And if they can't spell, they're probably illiterate.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
No, they're probably they're probably American. They didn't spell.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So that's where this case is right now, It's very
ironic that the newspaper article. When I started looking at cases,
all I saw was honor student kid who never missed school.
And they're just like, oh, this sounds like a nice kid.
You're still looking at the case. It's like, oh, my god,
he's a suspect in the brutal murder of both his parents.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, you know a lot of times too, what happens
and you said stepfather is uh, and again we don't
know anything. But what sometimes happens in cases like this,
what you find out is maybe there was abuse by
the stepfather. Yeah, And a lot of times with women,
it's sexual abuse sometimes. I met a woman who she
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basically told me she got it to stripping because she
ran away from home with her brother because her brother
was getting beaten by the stepfather.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
So she had to make some money.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Did to make some money for her brother, and that's
how she started. I had a friend who worked at
strip club whose clubs, who said that they were a
lot like comedians. Strippers were a lot like comedians. They said.
Some of them are totally get their heads together. They're
making a lot of money and they're putting it away,
and they're better in their life and then somewhat just
like comedians and that they were totally messed up and
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they were messes. I guess that's the creative field, absolutely, Dave.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, so yeah, the whole step father step son scenario
could be there also.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I mean you could have that, you could have you know,
they they didn't say how long that the couple was married.
They didn't say what. You know, could somebody else have
been interested in seeking this man out or seeking the
couple out for some sort of right.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, it could be. It could be the ex husband
of the female that was killed. Yeah, you know, you
never know. And this kid's like the Patsy, right, just
blame it on this.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Kid, right, right? Or or like I said, or maybe
he was hiding in a closet or something. You know.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I mean, if you haven't even come out of the
closet yet, have you, Dave, You're still in the closet.
I'm looking right over at you. You ain't not You're
you're not out of the closet.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And you got to get some therapy for that.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Anyway, I was gonna say something I had, I had
a good point. I forget what my point was. Here's
here's my point. Uh, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I know that this is not something necessarily that you've studied,
But I wonder what the percentage is of quote unquote
good kids that wind up that do this, because.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
They're only good until they do something bad. Then they're bad.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Right, But there were, as you know, there are a
lot of kids that you can look and say, oh,
you know, he was troubled from the time he was twelve.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Eleven years old.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, absolutely, you know whatever, And then there are other kids.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Who they just snap at eighteen. Everything is good up
until eighteen.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
And they just go right off the edge, and you know,
you never know what happens in the house, and you
never know sometimes what well, I guess that's the one
really and what's going on inside of kids.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You know, I was going to go over the edge, Dave,
And I said, you know something, If I go over
the edge as a civilian, I'm going to go to
jail for the rest of my life. But if I
go over the edge as a marine, we can kill
all we want, Dave. It's all a part of being
a member of the US government. I did it under
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the name of the US government. I think Ronald Reagan
ordered me to go over to Iraq and wipe out
a whole crew of iraqis.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Say, now you sound like a Springsteen song?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
All right, Dave, this was a pretty good week. We
had some really sad, sad stuff. The Wheel of Misfortune,
Snake Eyed Dice on all three of them days. It
was on all three of them, Dave.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, we did. We did a
good job of finding horrible things and big body count.
What's that body count this week? Three? So we got four,
we got five? Six? Hold on, we are at six?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You get three murdered by the Mexican drug cartel.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well maybe four because all right, the COVID spirrat and
again that's what they're suspected of.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
We have a young innocent runaway around sixteen, all right, five,
and then we have a husband and a wife.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Seven Is that seven? Dave? Yeah, yeah, we're up to
seven for the body count. Well, we're being generous with ourselves.
That's horrible, Yeah, it is horrible. Next week we gotta
take a week off and just do some happy stuff. Yeah,
we should just do like rainbows and polish.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Will a misfortune. Old lady falls off a curb and
breaks her ankle. Young kid gets hit with a baseball
playing baseball, I.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Have a I have two great ones for next week,
and maybe I'll do them both. I have two great
ones for next week, and nobody dies. Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We can't have that, we can't have that Alpine one day.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
This has been the way of misfortunes. Thanks for thanks
for coming in. Listen to us and like us, subscribe
all that stuff. See you next week.
Miss fortune go standing around.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Welcome to week three of the Wheel of Misfortune. I'm Dave,
and that's Dale former Cup and I'm Dave comedian and
I did this, and I've done that, and I've done
all kinds of things. But one thing I know about
is I know about misfortune. I'm kind of an expert
on that.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I'm sure you are.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
So Dale. You ready to go?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm ready to go, Dave. I hope we got some
good ship this week. I got a few emails from
our listeners, and they want us to up our game.
They want to hear some Gore, some real crazy stories, Dave.
So we're gonna spin the wheel right now and see
where it lands. It looks like David's teetering between humpty
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dumpty and perfect attendance. What do you think, Dave, which
one should we do?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
I'd go with the Humpty Dumpty?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Oh you would. Yeah, I'm not talking about you looking
in the merry either. Rat again, all right, I'm just
didn't I didn't write that. My wife told me to
say that. Yeah, the one who loves you told me
to say something.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I'll tell you the most defensive thing that you've said
so far, just telling our listeners that we get emails. Oh,
that's just blatant lying. So tell us about Humpty Dumpty,
all right.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So for those of you who don't know Humpty Dumpty,
let me just give you a little snippet of the rhyme.
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a
great fall. All the king's horses and all the King's
men couldn't put Humpty together again. So that's a great
lead in to our first tragic story of the week.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
A couple in Florida a facing murder chargers after the
body of a teenage girl they allegedly met through a
dating app was left dismembered in a dumpster, authorities said.
The Saint Petersburg Police Department confirmed on Friday, March seventh
that the body of sixteen year old Miranda Corsett was
(02:21):
left in a dumpster, nearly two weeks after she was
first reported missing on February twenty fourth. Please said that
the suspect, Stephen Gress and if you see his picture
in the paper, you can tell he's a criminal that's
just coming from a cop allegedly met course set on
a dating app and lured her to meet him at
(02:41):
his home in Saint Petersburg, Florida, on February fourth. What
about you, Dave, about lure any girl through a dating app,
because I know that's where you find most of your girls.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I no, no, but it's gone the other way.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Oh they've lured you. I'm sure they have.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Oh, let's not get into it. This is only like
a thirty five minute podcast.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We can't go into all that. That'd be we'd be
here all night, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So authorities believe that Corset staved with Gress and his partner,
Michelle Brandis, and looking at her picture, she looks even
more psychotic than him. She's thirty seven years old, and
it was at their home, and that her grandmother, who
the young girl used to live with, reported her missing
to the Gulf Port Police on February twenty fourth.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Are you talking about their booking photos? Their booking photos,
booking photos?
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, does anyone look good in a booking photo?
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Some there's actually some websites out there most attractive booking photos,
and they're good looking girls or in your case, Dave,
you might be looking at the good looking guys. But yeah,
know there's a whole. There's a bunch of websites out
there that do that.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So let me ask you this. In your experience, all right,
when you book somebody, when you took their picture, did
you ever make an arrest? I made a few? A few.
Anybody ever look good in the booking? No, they don't, Dave,
they don't do people intentionally, and.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Some people just like to look mean where other people
are either intoxicated, they're pissed off that they got arrested,
they're suffering from mental health issues. Their hairs all they're
all disheveled and their hairs all over the place. Her hair,
I'm looking at your hair today. What's up with your hair?
I'm thinking about turning myself in. You might want to
turn yourself in. So let's get back to the story.
(04:20):
So the commander or the acting police chief of Gulf
Port Police Department said that local police are very familiar
with this young girl Corsett, because she's a frequent runaway
and she has a history of mental health issues as
well as drug abuse. Now, when you look at her
and you say mental health issues and drug abuse, she'd
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be considered an easy victim because she's a young girl.
She was homeschooled, so she probably doesn't have a lot
of friends, so she meets people. She's on a dating
app at sixteen years old. I don't know if that's
common or not, but she's on a dating app at sixteen,
So she's a very easily manipulate by a couple of psychopaths.
(05:02):
And they're the ones who they manipulate those type of
kids because they're very vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, just going forward, if just if you need any ideas, Dave,
very vulnerable.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Dave, Well, it's uh yeah, it's one of the joys
of the Internet. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
One of the really bad parts of the Internet is
that predators can prey on young kids out dare Well.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
This is one of the things that I teach you
and try to mass communications social media, and one of
the things that we teach is the fact that the
Surgery General came out with a report and said one
of the good things about the Internet is kids who
are different, and you know, sometimes they can find communities,
you know, you know, people who like anime, people who
my kid who might be gay at this, you know
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this interest out of.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Maybe I mean, Charles Manson would have had a field
day on the internet. You would have had many, many
members in his group.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And that's the flip side. A lot of these I'd
just say, a lot of social media sites have got
a lot of predators. Yeah, absolutely so.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
So back to the story to this. Now, the grandmother
was the primary caregiver for this young girl, and the
grandmother stated that she runs away a lot, she doesn't
come home a lot, and the grandmother doesn't always report
her missing. So there was a delay at ten day
delay I believe, from the time she left to the
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time she was reported missing, which was right around February
twenty fourth, if you're looking at the timeline like the
timeline in which she was murdered. However, they haven't found
the body yet. They're looking at between February twentieth and
the twenty fourth, And the alleged motive behind the murder
(06:39):
was that the two older adults, the male and the female,
the ones who lured this young girl in, used the
kind of explanation that they thought she had stole some
of their jewelry, so that's why they beat her to
death over a few days and tormented or and tortured her.
So that's kind of their excuse. So the police get
the information that she missing, they stopped looking for her
(07:02):
and at some point, and I believe it might have
been some form of an informant that stated that they
killed the young girl. Then they brought her body to Largo, Florida,
which belonged to Brandis's mother, which is the female defendant
in this case. And they had a search warrant for
the home and they found evidence that there was some
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form of body that was cut up there, whether it
was blood evidence, DNA evidence, bone fragment evidence, whatever they
found at that house during the search. They made the
conclusion that someone was cut up and it was that
young girl and she was thrown in the dumpster somewhere
and they haven't found her body yet. So that tells
(07:44):
you they're going to be looking through landfills everywhere in
like the Hillsboro County of Florida. I don't know how
many landfills there are, how many dump sites there are.
That's a pretty gory job. That's what was involved in that.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Thank you, thank you. This is good. It'll give me
nightmares about my own teenage for quite a while.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Oh it's crazy, But like I said, there's always a
psycho out there, and there's always a vulnerable young girl,
and she spun the wheel and it came up snake
eyed dice for this young kid, and she just ran
into two complete psychopaths? Have they killed before? Is this
the first time they've ever killed? Are there other missing kids?
Are missing people in that area that are unaccounted for?
(08:23):
There could be. I haven't heard that yet, But you
look at these people like, is it the first time
they've ever done this? It might be, it might not be.
Where have they lived before? This is what the cops
should be looking at, right, And have they lived in
Texas or the northeast or something like that? And the
other missing people? So that this case could unravel to
more victims potentially.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
What are the possibilities that these people have said that
they beat her because they thought she's stole some jewelry?
Maybe that was exactly it, you know, whether she stole
it or not. What do you think the chances are
maybe that these two people just really thought she stole
the jerk?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
That's like I said, you kill her and cut her
up and throw away, right, Dave? Is your point?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, I'm saying you beat her. She dies accidentally, Then
you think, how were we going to hide this body and think,
I know it's a good idea, she does cut her off.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Yeah, there's probably a five percent chance that they're not guilty.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Oh no, no, I think that's definitely guilty. My point is,
my point is, is there any chance that to happen
the way they've said it happened.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's possible. I mean, it's possible, But let me give
you let's let's take a walk inside the criminal mind.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Many really psychotic criminals. They can rationalize in their own
head why they would do something, And to them, that's logical. Hey,
we invited her over, we gave her some drugs, we
might have had some sex, and she stole a wedding ring,
my grandmother's wedding ring. So that's why we killed her.
(09:47):
And then we cut her up because we didn't want
to get caught. To them, it's logical. But to me
and you, Dave the voices of reason, that's very illogical.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, I guess My only point is there is there
a possibility to that was So you don't think there's
any possibility this was a one time thing? You think these.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
People, No, I think it's possible that it wasn't a
one time thing. But that's up to the cops down
there to see if there's any anything going on in
other places of locals throughout the country. They'll go into
the Violent Criminal Apprehension program the FBI uses. We're kind
of going a little off track, but it's the database
that they look for similar crimes throughout the country and
(10:24):
they try to link them up.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
So I'm let's say, with whatever Brockton Police and I'm
in the cold case unit or I've got whatever, even
if they're cold case unite. Okay, I'm in the cold
case unit. And this comes across my desk that you know,
but that these killers were living in the Brocton area
between nineteen two thousand and five and two thousand and seven,
(10:46):
and so I just kind of flipped through see if
there are any.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Absolutely, then you call Florida and say, hey, what are
the dynamics of your case, because we have a missing
girl up here that we've never sold fifteen years ago
that could happen. Hopefully it doesn't happen. Hopefully this is
the only victim that these two maniacs have come across.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
But you never know, Dave, Oh, We're just off to
a great start.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
All right, Dave, maybe you can live in and up
with one of your stories here today, Dave, Well, let's
spin the wheel for a while.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Let's go right now, Oh beautiful, Well title this one
snowman on the run. Who would think, Dale that a
snowboarder would be involved with drugs?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
No way, especially an Olympic snowboarder, right, Dave.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Well, that's the big thing. That's what makes this so ironic.
But what makes it timely and makes it great for
us is uh, you know, we want to celebrate when
people hit milestones always. And the former Canadian Olympic snowboarder
apparently is behind a massive transnational drug ring and he
(11:49):
just got placed on the FBI's most wanted list, So
number ten. Congratulations, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I didn't look if you were probably ten. So now
you bumped to eleven days and you're all right?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Now I should be I should be well, I should
congratulate him. And if I congratulated him and he returned
my call, I would say to him, so where are
you living now? And he would tell me and I
would call the FBI. So the case, Dave, and my
reward for that would be ten million dollars.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Oh is it ten million dollars.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Bumped him up. They really the reward on him was
five hundred thousand. It's now ten million dollars. He's believed
to be in Mexico, and there's another rumor about him
that he's been asked to coach the Mexican bobsled team.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Bob's in Mexico. It must Bob slid on like saying,
is something like that a dirt dave through the barrios
of Guadalajara.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So this is from UPI. Former Canadian Olympic snowboarder from
two thousand and two. Ryan James Wedding was added to
the most the ten most one fugitalist on Thursday of
last week, March six, US authorities hunt for the man
that they issues of operating in this trafficking operation. There
believed to be a few murders in this there were
(12:59):
three that he's uh, I think there were three where
he's He's considered to be one of the main suspects
along with his partner. Quote he should be considered armed
and dangerous. Ryan James Wedding, this is still a quote
from that story. Is wanted for allegedly running and participating
in a transnational drug traffic operation that routinely shipped hundreds
(13:20):
of kilograms of cocaine from Columbia through Mexico and southern
California to Canada and other locations in the United States.
The FBI said in a statement, no comment on whether
or not they had to pay the tariffs.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Oh there you go.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yeah, you had to throw that in, yeah, Dave, Well, listen,
I didn't say anything about trans.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
You know, Dave. Whatever you said, drug cartel, Mexico and drugs.
Whenever you have those variables together, they're all going to
be equal to murder, Dave. Someone's always getting murdered when
you're talking about the drug cartels. So three murders that's
always possibly linked to it's probably thirty, Dave. Well, yeah,
we'll stick with three.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's at least three for four or wedding in. His
co conspirator named a guy named Andrew Klark who is
in custody.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Why do you get to kill him, Dave? Can't you
just take the drugs and let let him go? I
why does everyone always have to kill someone?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You know? I think there's a lot of greed in
that business. Yeah, I think there's a lot of greed.
In that business.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
So if you kill the guy instead of split in
a three ways, Dave, we kill the guy me and
you split a fifty to fifty. And if I decide
to kill you Dave, it's one hundred percent for me.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, and somebody else decides they want to cut in
in your territory, and so you've got to do something
about that person. And somebody might go to the cops.
So you have to take care of that person. I
saw breaking bad goes. Anyway, whoever wrote the press release
they quoted, they quote a guy named kill Davis, assistant
director for the FBI's Los Angeles Field Office, said in
(14:44):
a statement, quote Wedding went from shredding powder on the
slopes of the Olympics to distributing powder cocaine in the
streets of US cities in his native Canada.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
That's an indicator that the FBI has been trying just
as hard as we have to come up with pun
to describe this situation. For example, there's Olympic snowboarder goes
from half pipes to crackpipes.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
There you go, day, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Or or quote they'll put them on a box of
frosted wheaties. And then my personal favorite Olympics were nice
days for a white wedding. Oh boy, name was wedding?
Speaker 1 (15:19):
So is there a list of a long list of
Olympians has been arrested or committed murder? Do you happen
to have that or not?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I don't want to put you on the spot, Dave.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Coincidentally, I did my research and I found a website
called Olympedia and uh olympedia dot com, and there's a
long list. There's a long list of former Olympics, some
many from the United States. I didn't see another one
from Canada. But there's a long list, some from the
United States and from some from countries all over the world.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I got one. Is he on the list? Oscar Pretarius
from Celta, South Africa? South Africa?
Speaker 2 (15:55):
No? I know Oscar well.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Actually he was like a special Olympian, Dave. He had
like the fake legs and he allegedly shot his girlfriend.
I didn't shoot his girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
He just got to remember him. Yeah, he must be
on there.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
He must be.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I don't know that he Isn't.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
There any special Olympians on their days?
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I didn't check for special Olympians. Why you look at
his friends, the down Syndrome crew that that's gonna be
taken the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'll cut that out, Dave.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Going from olympian to outlaw is pretty ironic. Here's the
worst case, by the way, I thought, at least I
thought so again. Named fille Fami of Iraq, a track
athlete in nineteen sixty, became a general in the army.
He was from a prominent Iraqi family. Led the Iraqi
delegation to the Olympics in nineteen eighty four. In in
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nineteen eighty six, he was arrested, imprisoned, and eventually executed.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Executed for insulting by Saiddam Hussein.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
There you go, Dave, in front of fellow military officers.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, I don't mess around with those countries over there, Dave,
you don't insult anyone.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
No word, no word on what he did to insult
hussaying that badly? What do you think he said?
Speaker 1 (17:05):
What could he say that would insult Saddam Hussein? Nice mustache,
nice mustache, you're alayah, you're a cheat, you're a thief.
What else could he say?
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I don't know what he said, all right, anyway, we're
gonna move on to the next one.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
We don't even have to spin the wheel, Dave, because
we spun it earlier and we picked humpty dumpty and
now we have perfect attendance. We should probably be calling
it killer Kids, Dave, because this is another disturbing story.
Oh yeah, yeah, pretty much so. In Wisconsin, a seventeen
year old teenager who never missed a day of school
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suddenly stopped showing up, leading police to discover his mom
and stepdad murdered in their home. Nikita case apps two
week absence from Keisha West High School, as well as
weird or suspicious text messages sent from his stepfather's phone,
prompted police do a welfare check at the family's residence
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on February twenty eighth. The school resource officer, which I
used to be, Dave, I used to do welfare checks
when kids didn't come to school. Really yeah, but in
this case, so these are two weeks.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Although these are well fait checks for kids, because I
know there's also well checked well fit checks four.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
For adult elderly people. But yeah, if you're the school
resource officer and you know and the school brings it
to your attention. Hey, this kid hasn't missed the day
of school since kindergarten. It is last year of school.
We haven't seen him in two weeks. We've called the house.
No one's seen him, no one's heard from him. So
you go to the house and do a welfare check.
And usually welfare checks, Dave, they usually don't turn out
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too well.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Can I tell you well, Yes, I got a well
fit check story that was told to me by a
chief of police from a from a small town around here. Okay,
this one turns out much night, much better than yours.
This is a This was a case where it was
an elder person. Person was fine, but they knocked on
the front door. Nothing. There are two cops. They knocked
in the back door. Nothing. So, as you know, procedure
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is you try to find another way into the house
and just try and make sure everything's okay. And so
one guy was gonna go through an open window, bathroom window,
and he's gonna let the other guy in. So he's
going through the window and long story short, a big cop,
small window, taking a while, and all of a sudden,
the cop in the ground here says, couplunk, and he
looks up and he goes, what's going on. The guy
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at the window says, my gun slipped out of my
holster the toilet and the toilet and the cop in
the ground looks up and says, hey, quit shooting the
shit and come open the door.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Oh, there you go. So they did their welfare check, Dave.
That's a good welfare check. Mine never turned out that one.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
No, never good now, especially when you do elderly people.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Usually if you see the mail piled up, or the
newspaper back in the day when they used to deliver newspapers,
and then you can kind of have this weird smell,
or you look in the window you see a whole
bunch of flies bouncing around and baggots on the windows,
you kind of know, Dave. It's called a clue. It's
a clue that someone in there is dead.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Is that the last time you have them?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah? Pretty much last time I had a clue, all right.
So the cops go there and they find the mother, Tatiana,
buried under some clothes with a bullet wound in her
shoulder and her face was blackened from decomposition, with dried
blood on the floor around her. So she's probably in there.
A couple of weeks her husband, Donald Mayer, was also
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found under some clothing with an obvious wound to the
back of his head. They didn't say a gunshot wound.
They just said a wound. So the young man, seventeen
year old Nikita, was subsequently arrested for driving without a
license during a traffic stop in Wakini, Kansas, some eight
hundred and fifty miles away. He was driving his dad's
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or his stepdad's Volkswagon Atlas with the family dog inside.
Davey Ago, his co conspirator in this incident. Also in
the car was a Smith and Wesson three point fifty
seven magnum handgun, which was, according to police, registered to
his stepfather, his deceased stepfather. So, based on that traffic
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stop for driving without a license, he faces six years
in Kansas if he's convicted. He hasn't been charged with
the murdy yet, Dave, we don't know if that weapon
that they found was the weapon used to shoot at
least his mother, because they didn't say that the father
was shot. I'm sure he was shot, but they didn't
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say he was shot.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Maybe he was oh back of the head.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You could have been hit in the back of the
head with a baseball bad day or something like that,
an iron or a frying pan, Like how many of
your ex wives assaulted you with a frying pan?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Dave? You know something? At one point I could have
probably told you the number. But after we get hit
in the head enough, he started to forget those things.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Yeah, so this case is still it's still open, Dave.
There is a few questions, or there's a lot of questions.
He did he kill his parents? Did he kill his.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Parents to come home? Seen it, freaked out and took off.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Absolutely he could have. I mean, people under those type
of stressful situations react differently. He could have just fled
in his father's car with the dog, running as far
away from the bad guy as he could. But every
time he looked in the mirror of Dave, you want
to know what he saw, he saw the bad guy?
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Did you think so?
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I think he probably did. It sounds almost logical to me,
almost almost logically. No, he has he hasn't been charged yet.
He hasn't been charged.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
But he wouldn't be charged right away, right, I mean,
they're gonna have to do an investigation. But what type
of gun he has killed right his family? What kind
of what kind of a gun? What was the wound
in the father's back, back of the father's head.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Is it DNA evidence there? But his DNA is going
to be there.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
His DNA is definitely going to be there. But I
guess the thick question is how many other people's DNA
is there a with the DNA?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
There is there an unknown DNA? And maybe the kid
didn't kill his parents and he reacted.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Maybe the way we think he.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Might have watched it. He could have watched I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I mean, he might have come in, he might have
freaked out. I mean, given his history, you know, given
given his school record, it would seem like if you're
an honor school, if you're an if you're an honors.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Student who never missed the day in school.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Who never missed a day in school, you'll probably a
pretty good kid.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
You're probably smart enough to cover the crime scene a
lot better than he did.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, well he was paying if again, he could have
been panicanna or he could have been I don't know.
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, it's an interesting case. I mean, you don't want
to assume that he did it. He he looks like
someone who might have done it. The situation looks as
though he might have done it, But there's a lot
of people that look guilty in domestic situations and they're
not guilty. They're just there, and then you feel bad
when you when when you think they're guilty.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know what I mean, Dave, Yeah, I do. What
do you think? The chances are that the cops who
are investigating this have already got it in their head
that he's guilty and they're not looking at any further.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
That happens a lot in law enforcement. You can get
really focused on one specific suspect because it's a domestic situation,
there's a gun involved, he fled the scene. There was
some suspicious text messages from the father's phone. They don't
text message, they don't say what they were. But a
lot of times people who do something bad to you
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and they have your phone, what they'll do is they'll
send text messages from the phone to make people think
that the person who was killed is still alive. So
it's like they were still texting, but they were dead.
I just stole your phone, Dave. So killers do that that.
You can see that historically in many cases, but it's
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kind of a real simple thing. Most law enforcement people
will look at that right off the bat. Where were
those text messages sent?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Right?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
What's the location?
Speaker 2 (24:59):
If they're opinion on the eight hundred and fifty mile
route from where he lived to where he was picked up.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
And they say they were suspicious because the way you
talk or the way someone text is someone else. A
lot of times you can tell it doesn't sound like
me texting Dave. Right, it sounds like someone else has
Dave's phone if that ever happened, Dave, I don't know
that I'd call nine one one for you.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Dave.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I don't know if i'd help you. I probably should.
But yeah, you can tell how someone talks and how
someone texts you or sends you an email, the way
they the way they put words together.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
If they put punctuation, you know their certain age. If
they don't put punctuation, they're another age communications professor. Right, yeah,
but they're one paragraph, they're probably a teenager.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Look at you. I didn't know that, Dave. Wow. Yeah,
And if they can't spell, they're probably illiterate.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
No, they're probably they're probably American. They didn't spell.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So that's where this case is right now, It's very
ironic that the newspaper article. When I started looking at cases,
all I saw was honor student kid who never missed school.
And they're just like, oh, this sounds like a nice kid.
You're still looking at the case. It's like, oh, my god,
he's a suspect in the brutal murder of both his parents.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Well, you know a lot of times too, what happens
and you said stepfather is uh, and again we don't
know anything. But what sometimes happens in cases like this,
what you find out is maybe there was abuse by
the stepfather. Yeah, And a lot of times with women,
it's sexual abuse sometimes. I met a woman who she
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basically told me she got it to stripping because she
ran away from home with her brother because her brother
was getting beaten by the stepfather.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
So she had to make some money.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Did to make some money for her brother, and that's
how she started. I had a friend who worked at
strip club whose clubs, who said that they were a
lot like comedians. Strippers were a lot like comedians. They said.
Some of them are totally get their heads together. They're
making a lot of money and they're putting it away,
and they're better in their life and then somewhat just
like comedians and that they were totally messed up and
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they were messes. I guess that's the creative field, absolutely, Dave.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yeah, so yeah, the whole step father step son scenario
could be there also.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
I mean you could have that, you could have you know,
they they didn't say how long that the couple was married.
They didn't say what. You know, could somebody else have
been interested in seeking this man out or seeking the
couple out for some sort of right.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Yeah, it could be. It could be the ex husband
of the female that was killed. Yeah, you know, you
never know. And this kid's like the Patsy, right, just
blame it on this.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Kid, right, right? Or or like I said, or maybe
he was hiding in a closet or something. You know.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I mean, if you haven't even come out of the
closet yet, have you, Dave, You're still in the closet.
I'm looking right over at you. You ain't not You're
you're not out of the closet.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
And you got to get some therapy for that.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Anyway, I was gonna say something I had, I had
a good point. I forget what my point was. Here's
here's my point. Uh, and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I know that this is not something necessarily that you've studied,
But I wonder what the percentage is of quote unquote
good kids that wind up that do this, because.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
They're only good until they do something bad. Then they're bad.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Right, But there were, as you know, there are a
lot of kids that you can look and say, oh,
you know, he was troubled from the time he was twelve.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Eleven years old.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, absolutely, you know whatever, And then there are other kids.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Who they just snap at eighteen. Everything is good up
until eighteen.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
And they just go right off the edge, and you know,
you never know what happens in the house, and you
never know sometimes what well, I guess that's the one
really and what's going on inside of kids.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
You know, I was going to go over the edge, Dave,
And I said, you know something, If I go over
the edge as a civilian, I'm going to go to
jail for the rest of my life. But if I
go over the edge as a marine, we can kill
all we want, Dave. It's all a part of being
a member of the US government. I did it under
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the name of the US government. I think Ronald Reagan
ordered me to go over to Iraq and wipe out
a whole crew of iraqis.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
Say, now you sound like a Springsteen song?
Speaker 1 (29:12):
All right, Dave, this was a pretty good week. We
had some really sad, sad stuff. The Wheel of Misfortune,
Snake Eyed Dice on all three of them days. It
was on all three of them, Dave.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Yeah, you're right, you're right, we did. We did a
good job of finding horrible things and big body count.
What's that body count this week? Three? So we got four,
we got five? Six? Hold on, we are at six?
Speaker 1 (29:34):
You get three murdered by the Mexican drug cartel.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Well maybe four because all right, the COVID spirrat and
again that's what they're suspected of.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
We have a young innocent runaway around sixteen, all right, five,
and then we have a husband and a wife.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Seven Is that seven? Dave? Yeah, yeah, we're up to
seven for the body count. Well, we're being generous with ourselves.
That's horrible, Yeah, it is horrible. Next week we gotta
take a week off and just do some happy stuff. Yeah,
we should just do like rainbows and polish.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Will a misfortune. Old lady falls off a curb and
breaks her ankle. Young kid gets hit with a baseball
playing baseball, I.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Have a I have two great ones for next week,
and maybe I'll do them both. I have two great
ones for next week, and nobody dies. Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
We can't have that, we can't have that Alpine one day.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
This has been the way of misfortunes. Thanks for thanks
for coming in. Listen to us and like us, subscribe
all that stuff. See you next week.
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