Success - Part 2

In this episode of 'Real Talk' on C1Music.fm, the host Aaron and his fellow panelists Fritz, Eddie, Joash, along with guests Cathy and Jennie, dive into a deep discussion on success, relationships, and gender dynamics. The conversation touches on the topic of successful men and their interactions with women, and the nuances of modern dating. The group also shares personal experiences with relationship arguments, selective amnesia in accountability during arguments, and the biases in holiday celebrations like Mother's Day versus Father's Day. The episode underscores the complexities of maintaining relationships and the different perspectives each gender holds about success and the value they bring to a partnership.



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Episode Transcript

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Here we go, we go seeone music dot f M. This is
real talk. We are in thebuilding, you know we do all day

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every day, and I'm back withmy fellas. You know what I mean.
This show is for the fellas Ihave. If I don't know we
have. My name is Aaron.I got friends in the building. My
man Eddie's in the building. Wegot Joe Ash in the building. And

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I've asked today for the previous hostsof this show to join us, joining
the conversation that we're going to havetoday about success. So I want to
welcome back Kathy and Jenny to theshow today. How are you ladies doing
doing great? Thanks for having ustoday. Cool cool cool cool cool cool

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fellas. I want to apologize toanybody who was waiting for us to do
the show last week. It hasn'tbeen two weeks almost. I know I
was sick the previous week. It'ssomething going on out here, man,
where everybody's getting sick viral. Iwent to the doctors and the doctor told

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me that I just had a commoncode. But this common code has affected
people in many different ways. Idon't know. My wife lost her voice
for almost a week and a halfI was, and I'm still coughing a
little bit and congested, but I'mnot as bad as I was previously.
So I thank everybody for their patienceand my fellas here. Thank y'all for

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you know, being supportive and everything. So since we last talked, what
did y'all think about the previous episodethat we that we were on and the
question that we sparked off about successanyone of y'all when anyone of the fellas

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can jump in the incident. Ican't wait for part two. This is
part conversation. Yeah, all right, cool? What about you Eddie?
Then? I think I told youthis when we did ready to see what
it takes us now? Well,I told I also told you you guys

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said if y'all had any questions orthings y'all wanted to bring to the table
or whatever the case may be,you know, I'm open to to.
This is why we're here, man, you know what I'm saying. This
is why we're here. So,uh, that's where we are, so
success part two, that's where weare today. I wanted to play this

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clip. It's about two minutes tothree minutes, and this is the reason
why I had this lead the ladieson the day. I want to play
this clip and I want to geteverybody's reaction to the clip. At least
I might even stop in im portionsand go back and forth to it,
but I want to I want toplay the clip and get everybody's reaction to

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it. It's a video clip,and uh so, ladies, I want
you you, you you two topay attention as well. And if anybody
wants to comment and join in thechat or whatever the case would be,
feel free, all right, butwe're gonna play this clip and we're gonna
see, we're gonna respond to it, at least give our opinions on it.

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It's about success, successful men dealingwith women and so on and so
forth, right, But one thingthat men have to really realize is how
you feel around a beautiful woman.Is how beautiful women feel around successful men
or men that don't you know,that actually have ful field of potential.

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When we meet a man who's fulfilledhis potential, as in, he takes
care of his appearance, he workshard, he's busy, he's got friendship
circle, his mind is occupied,we are just as intimidated by that type
of man as you are by abeautiful you know Instagram belt because we see
that man as oh my god,I wouldn't be his be all and end

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all. He's got so much goingon in his life. Wow, Like
okay, I need to come correct. And it's the exact same thing.
We have the exact same level ofintimidation by those men as men do the
beautiful women. You've just got toremember that, whereas we really remember that
our beauty will intimidate you, sowe work on that. Men don't always

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remember, but their value and theirsucces sys intimidates us in the same way.
All right, real quick, iffor everybody that's listening to this,
can you can you guys meet yourmic? Because I'm hearing there we get
an echo. So for everybody's onthis, meet your mic until I finished
playing the clip, right, Andthey don't. They forget and they focus

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a lot on how they communicate withus. But really, when you meet
a man who's a CEO, successfulor you know, doing really well,
he doesn't even have to talk.We're already attracted because he is the prize,
not how he talks to us,and not the game he fits.
And it's similarly with beautiful women.She doesn't actually have to say a lot.
She will just be who she isis enough to intimidate and it works

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both ways, but just in differentdimensions. All right, real quick?
So I wanted I wanted to getthe young ladies well first and foremost,
do y'all do you do? Everybody? Everybody can take the phones off me
real quick? Does everybody agree withwhat the young lady said? She said

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that men who are successful and knowtheir potential, they realize to themselves that
they are the prize. So Iwant to know, do first and foremost
to all the fellows on him?Do you agree with that statement? Fellas?

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Talk to me man, I gofirstad glad? So I think somehow
it's true, and I could bewrong, but from my perspective it's really
you know, when when you whenyou interact with opposite sex and when when
the man is uh, you know, have this certain level of success.
Somehow that's true that he will,you know, give value to that woman

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in their relationship and so somehow it'skind of intimate thing. But you know,
if the woman is also secure andwho she is, as the man
is securing who he is, thevalue gives. I don't think there's a
really there's no reason to be imitated, and in a bad way, but
initially intimidation, you know, couldbe. It's valid. It's how another

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person feels. Right. So that'smy take on it. I got you.
I'm a respond to you in aminute. I have bad Eddie and
Fritz. I agree. I agreewith what you shall said, but that
men always the prize below without success. We always the prize because we are

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the ones that decide whether they willmarry or not. Are the ones that
you know, the the ones thatcall the shots, you know. So
I think we have the price alwayswe love without success. I'm smiler because
when you said men are always surprised, the first person I looked at was
Jimmie's face, and as Jenny placelike, yeah right, she had a

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yeah right, hold on, wantthe chance to respond. I have friends.
You've seen it too, though,Fritz, right, you've seen the
look. Yeah, so you couldn'thide it. Yeah, yeah, I
somehow I somehow agree with her inthe Yeah. I only agree with her

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in the context of modern dating becauseof what the girl is looking for right
now. Because primarily I think thisis just me and my observation that more
girls and more women are looking forthat status of success from man, not

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really about uh, virtue, youknow, and and all those things that
are internally discovered, but but what'son the outside. So yeah, what
her observation about what intivitates women todayis really a successful man or immense status?

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I think, all right, Ihave I have an open in the
question, not an open in thequestion. I have a question that I
want to give this too real quickand then I'm gonna let the ladies talk
or at least give their opinion.I want to ask in in your perspective
countries, are men more Do theyhave prisons that are filled with more men

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than they do women in your countriesand your perspective countries the prison system.
Do you find that more men aregoing to jail than women in your in
your countries? Yeah, okay.The reason why, the reason why I
ask that is in most populations,the women out populate men, right,

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and the good you have men thatgo to prison. A goup majority of
men also are in prison. Sothen you have their average man, and
then you have a small percentage ofhigh earners who are in a position where
they can do whatever they want todo. A lot of women, on

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the other hand, have this highperspective, high perspective that they're going to
get this high value man and soon and so forth, and the percentage,
the percentages don't add up to everyevery woman is not going to get
the man that they're talking about.So they have a lot of high standards

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and things in that nature, andthere's more average men. Like, the
percentages don't add up from a populationstandpoint, so women's standards are sometimes too
hot. And really the choice andthe pickings fall in the favor of the
man than it does the woman becauseit's more women for men to pick from,

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and there's less good men than thereare women because of the percentages in
the population that you know, Andand I'm not saying that that's a good
or bad thing, but I'm justsaying that the percentages don't add up.

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For a lot of women saying thatthey want these high value successful men,
percentages don't add up for them tobe able to them. And I'm saying
that in most societies, most cultures, it just doesn't add up. So
women who want a man to beeighty twenty seventy thirty is not realistic.

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Most men are going to be ina position to do fifty to fifty well
for a woman. Do you guysagree with that statement? Prother you're quiet?
Man? Yeah, do you agree? Disagree? I mean, talk
to me, man, I personallyagree. Frits, Joe Ash, do

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you agree disagree in the count Speakingfrom the perspective growing up here in the
Philippines, I would say, yeah, somehow it's it's yeah, I agree
with that in yeah again in thecontext of because a lot. I don't

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know that, because personally I don'tknow statistics right now for the population of
men versus women, But definitely Iagree. Do you think that the population
is and Kathy, Jenny, canyou look it up in the Philippines,
just look through a quick search thepopulation of women versus population of men?
Real quick? Do you think thatit's more women than men? And I

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do think there's a lot more womenthat man. I just don't know the
difference. All right, we're aboutto find We're about to look that up
now. I got, I got, I got, I got my top
tier assistant working on that. Kathy, can you also look it up and
carry as well? Please? Kathy? What's what's the cultural what's the difference

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in population for men and women.Go ahead, Jenny, So basically they're
not really the person that is notreally far are apart because males are like
fifty points we've percent and females areat forty nine point seven percent. So
you're saying that there's more men andwomen. Yeah, little, but only

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little change. What is matter ofdistribution of the population. So what is
the percentage of genders men going tojail versus woman going to jail? Are
you able to look that up?And what about you, Kathy? With

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the percentages and ken there, it'seighty nine if I'm not mistaken, Jenny,
and the Philippines eighty nine percent permen, only eleven women. So
the percentage of men going to jail, So I'm saying women have a harder

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percentage of men. Women have aharder chance of finding the guy if he
was a women, and ask thema whole bunch of questions about their standards
and the type of guy that theywant, it's going to be difficult for
them to find that man. Inthe Philippines, Kathy, while your face
is so shocked, what is itare that you yawning? Biggest eleven person

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is a very small range of options. This is cathy. Oh, ninety
three percent for males and cent forhigh for men. Say that one more
time. I'm sorry, I'm sayingand ninety three percent of males are the

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ones who go to prison and sixtwenty percent are the women. So the
men range it is high, right, So more men are being put in
jail? What about now? Whatabout the population difference in general? And
m h shout out to tricksy tricks, he says, But some men were

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fifty to fifty five point one,what percent of those people will serve in
prison? Totally? Tell me thepopulation difference between men and women. What

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is the population of men and inuh Kenya and versus the population of women
in Kenya? Let me, Iwant to address something with tricky the tricks
he said, real quick, JoeAsh. And I'm asking you, Joe
Ash, now where let's let's picturea world where you were married today,

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right, and in society, insociety in general, which if you was
going out out on a first date. Now I want you to answer,
Joe Ash. I'm asking you specificallythis question to start it off. I'm
asking you this question because I wouldassume that you old school like me.

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We you know, the old school, So our objective would be to go
treat, take your girl out,take her on a date, and pretty
much cover everything. But in thesemodern days and times right where women want
you to spend extravagant amount of moneyjust about nothing. If you was going

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to go take somebody out on adate and you say, hey, look,
I'm just trying to get to knowyou. I don't want to know
you. I don't want to spenda whole bunch of money, would you
would you inquire? Inquire to tellthe person, the young lady that you're
dating that on your first date youwant to go fifty to fifty? Would
you be wrong for doing that?Would they be wrong? Yeah? Would

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you be wrong to say, hey, since I don't know you and we're
just trying to get to know eachother, instead of me investing all this
money, I think the smart choicewould be us to go fifty to fifty.
Be careful she isn't here. Iwouldn't. I wouldn't feel okay with

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it. Personally. I think it'sbecause of uh, the man around me
who mothered me. How do Ijust told you to cancel that out?
Man? I told you I knowme man, all right, but but
you're saying still you will want solet me ask you this question, Joe
Ashton, all right, so obviouslyyou're saying the first date you'll take her

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out, second date, you'll takeher out at what At what point?
At what date would you start saying? All right, look, I want
to see she gonna be willing topay for me to go, Like is
it the fourth date? Is thefifth day? Like? At what point
would it be? I don't knowif you aretually frozen and that anyway,

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at what point in time in theday Eddie, were the day where you
like, I don't really know,like if she don't wanted not so,
like should I should we do fiftyfifty on this one? Like? At
what point in time it would?Would you? You know what? Honestly
speak it. I'd love to dofifty to fifty from the first day only

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that you know she will. Wecould probably be the first and last day
if I tell her you want usto go fifty to fifty. But oh
as once once, once you're married, it is very easy to go fifty
to fifty, you know, say, once you're married. Yeah, so
we're talking dating. We're talking datingright now. No, you have to

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be you know wise in this.You know the money. Listen, don't
tell that. Listen listening, listen, Fritz and Fritz and Eddie, if
y'all, if y'all, ladies aroundya, Joe ash got taken out.
Man, his wife heard the wayto take him out. Okay, I

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hey, hey, I think Ididn't know what happened. You know,
I'm paying my bills on times.I'm gonna check on the internet provider.
Never happened before. But we said, your wife. Watch what you're saying,
fellas, your wife will take youout. Okay, at the one

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At what point will they say,I'm gonna take this? I think fifty
fifty. I'm saying, at whatpoint would you want to see if she's
going to be hold you down andpay fifty to fifty at what point of
the date, like to be thefourth day, fifth day? That will

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take fifty to fifty, Like shecan cover one hundred percent, Like at
what point in time would you expecther too, Because Eddie just said that
he wants he actually would want herto do fifty to fifty on the first
date, No even one hundred.You want her to pay for you on
the first day, bro, Imean, why not? It is the

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prize though. Wow, that's why, that's why I always surprise. I'm
looking at Genie fifty. But goahead, go ahead. At the one
point, if she insisted to gofifty to fifty, okay, let's let
her have her way. I will, I will let her it, would

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you know, make sure we'll betterhave netle Would that be on the second
date, third day, even evenat the first date if she insisted,
you know, I'm willing to gofifty to fifty. But if in the
first day, I you know,I insisted and she wanted to, you
know, to cover it, allof it, I would, okay,

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sure, I'm taking Eddie's side.I mean the price at a high value.
So okay, go ahead, butnext time, But next time,
I would, you know, gogo ahead, because that's what I usually
do. And I go ahead,meet, I go there earlier, I
give my card to the way there, and she may be feeling that she's

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gonna treat me, but I goahead. I actually do that with the
same with other people, not onlyin females. But you know, but
if that's what she wants, sorry, I got first. I was the
first to do it, my guy, that's how that's how I do it.
Out there in the Philippines, yougive the car up first, yep,

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I see here in America you getyour car last. Man. You
know what I mean? You don't, you don't hang that out right away.
Tricksy said that whoever initiated the dateshould pay Genny. You was about
to say something, do you agreewith? Yeah? I would agree with

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what Tricky said because there's a commonunderstanding here that whoever asked for a date
is expected to pay for it.So how it is so on a first
date, though not on the firstdate. But if you're like a in
the stage, hold on, holdon, Jenny. So what if on

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a first date he takes you out, he pays everything, But then you're
waiting for the second date for y'allto go out again, and he never
asks you to go out on thesecond date. So now you ask him
like, hey, so well thenext time you want to go out,
you have now initiated. Are yougoing to pay for everything? Yeah?
Then you should be ready to itwith the one who asks for it.

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So then every point after that,every time you actually go on a date,
because I would I would I wouldalways for me as a man,
I would always I would always forthe kind of that always be a Netflix
and chill moment. You know whatI'm saying. So every time you would

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want to go out, you payingfor it? Are you saying that,
Kathy? Are you agreeing with that, Kathy? Every time that y'all go
out, you pay since you initiatedit. No, I'm asking you too,
Jenny. I agree. Yeah,I agree because I didn't have any
money, but she told me togo on a date, so I just

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follow. So yeah, I meanand then go home. Hold on,
hold on, I'm confused with whatyou said, Kathy. Are you staying
that if you initiate the date,he should still pay, or you saying
that if you you're gonna pay.No, I'm saying, if you initiate
the date, you should pay.You're gonna give the person on the plans

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to go out, so you shouldpay. So what if he never asked
you to go out? What ifhe asked you to come over? Oh
damn, he's good. Now Iinitiate getting the groceries for you to cook.
Oh that's different. If he's gonnaan id, I would be willing

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to get the grocery. Nah,you're going to his place to come.
He's gonna got his place. Allright, let's run. We're gonna go
back to what the ladies. Sohold on, Genny, I want to
I want to address you real quick, Jenny, because you made a frown
when Eddie said he the prize.So what's the issue, Jenny? What's

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your issue? Men are not theprize. You don't find you don't find
out your husband. It's not theprice. I couldn't say that for sure.
Is there are moments in your lifewhere it could be at his prime
and I'd be at my prime.So we starting, yes, So it's
not always let's run his back.Let's run his back, guys, hold

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on for f for chrishing Joe Fristionand Joe Ass because you guys wasn't on
my other podcast the other day,right, First off, Jenny, So,
Genny, are you still saying youin your prime? No? Okay,
I just want to. I justwanted to establish that part, all
right, Joe Ash and Fritz uhTricksy said, be careful listening to Gin.

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Yeah. I agree, I Itruly agree for everybody who's taking advice
from Jen. But let me asklet me ask this let me ask this
question. On my other podcast,I asked this question. I said to
the ladies we know, me andEddie broke down what men bring to the
table. We all agreed that menbring protection, we bring uh, provision,

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Uh, we bring help me out, Eddie. What else we said?
We bring protecting, provision, solove, so says love, and
leadership and leadership. There you go, those are the things most men bring
to the table, right and sobeing at the statistics of showing that men

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right now, showing that men arehave more capability of being the prize because
they have a better trace of choosing, because the choices for men and women
are vastly different. We asked allthe women on a on a show at
that time, but did they bring? Including Kathy? We asked Kathy as
well, what do you bring?What do you have to offer? What

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do you bring to the table?And most of the women on the show
said nothing, They just bring themselves. What differentiate you from all the other
women? They said nothing? Howdo y'all feel about that? So?

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How can women be the projec ifthey don't bring anything to the table?
Jenny, Jenny, I would likefor you to answer that. I don't
agree if women don't bring anything tothe table, So what do they bring
to the table? Why is itsuch a hard question for females to answer?

(28:47):
Anyway? They bring the nurturing andthe carry and respect love to whom
to the men. But if you'reso, say that one more time.
You bring caring, nurturing, carrying, love, respect and understanding the men

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and understanding to me, understanding meaningthat you are understanding what he said,
like you'd always uh have their back, it always have your back whenever you
know troubles come in? Yeah?So so is that is that what you

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are for your husband? Yep?I'm always that person, the person is
always surprising him in any endeavor himthat he takes. Yeah, always cheering
for him. Yeah, I wantto give is this is Kat? Is
that that's your sister, right?And your shout out to your sister even

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though she's crying on a podcast,Yo, says Kathy says, he has
nothing to offer any man. Justwhat do you, guys, as what
do you offer? What do youbring to the table? You can say
it in the chat. I wouldlove to know, Fritz, what do
you think about that? Fritz?What do you. What is Chris.
I'm gonna put you on. I'mgonna put you on the spotlight real quick.
Chris. You bring leadership, youbring provision, you bring finances,

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You offer your love and your support. I forgot your girlfriend's name. I'm
sorry, what's that? What's yourname? Wheeler? What does Weller bring
to the table? What can sheoffer you today if you wish to settle
downa matter? What does she bringto the table right now? Yeah,

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she's listening right now to the table. No, I agree with Jenny when
it comes to uh, you know, don't agree with you. Tell me
hold on, I'm putting you onthe spot right now. Don't agree with
you. I want to what doesWheeler? Yeah? She because she is,

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she is, She's she's doing whatJenny mentioned, uh started with caring.
She she cares a lot to whatI'm doing. She she's the one
who that I, you know,take care of myself when I am away,
and she take cares of me whenwe're together. She she nurtures,

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you know, as a man likelike what like what I've shared with you
Aaron before, Because as as mengrowing up in the Philippines, we don't
have we don't use a lot ofsoap in you know, in our body,
because we always uses soap when wetake a bath. But now that
now she's in my life, sheyou know, tells me that you have

(31:59):
to use this for your skin,you have to use this for your hair,
you have to use this for yourlips. And so I do it
because before I'm you know, justa man who you know doesn't care about
those things, But now she caresabout those things in my in the aspects
of my life. So you know, I get to be so she upgrads.
Yeah, I would like to thinkso, because I don't use those

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things on my face in my body. Now I'm using them. So you
actually think that I hear Fred saythat. You know, it may it

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may not be that, you know, like how men give value, but
the value is more of the development, right and the maturity, both physical
and emotional. Yeah, skincare Isee? Yeah, you're saying that.

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I think men are providers by nature. You don't expect your man to provide.
Women to provide. She has qualitiesyou want, that's all, But
how do you so, like,for instance, how do you find out
that women have those qualities if theydon't exemplify them and bring them to the
table right away. You know whatI'm saying. I heard, I heard

(33:27):
I heard this on a that waswith Jordan Peterson where hold on request?
Did you just take that Jenny didshould compliment each other chat? I mean,
yeah, yeah, because it's thathosted it. I didn't put that.
I didn't write that. Man.Yeah, I just wanted to make

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sure because it wasn't me. Ididn't tape that. Just now. I'm
sorry, I'm sorry. Who isbegging somebody up? Yeah? I saw
something from from another podcast saying thatthe more that the female exercises her femininely

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into the male, the more themale exercises masculinity. For example, whenever
a woman really trusts and respects hisman to be the leader, I think
the man with all the more exercisesleadership. And you know, because not
all of us are born leaders,we we we grow on the job.

(34:38):
Right. As for me, ofcourse, I'm not used to leading women
because I'm not I haven't been toso many relationships for me to be like
an experienced leader for a woman,right. So, but the more that
my girlfriend trusts me to be theleader and to be the provider the more
I get to exercise that leadership andthe more I get to exercise that that,

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you know, providing aspect in therelationship, and the more I grow
as a leader, the more yougirls provided because she lets me. And
I think that's that's also the qualitiesof women that they bring to the table,
if they are willing to submit,then definitely the man that we are
are able to, you know,exercise those qualities that we are you know,

(35:25):
by nature. Are given a quickquestion for you, Fritz, Sure,
because listen, I'm all for love, I'm all for you and Wheeler.
Hopefully y'all y'all make glad and letme ask you though, Fritz,
sure, this this is the Thisis a very important question, all right.

(35:47):
Sure, And I'm pretty sure Eddiewho was previously married, Joe Ash
who is currently married, even Jinnywho is married. And matter of fact,
I'm asking you to this question,Kathy because you two of you and
Fritz are are in the stage ofdating somebody. So I want to asks

(36:10):
have you and Weela Wayla. Idon't know, I don't know if I'm
saying the name right, but ifyou're listening, I'm saying your name,
will please forgive me, but ifhave you and her had a major argument
yet, like about anything, yourargument, like an argument yesterday? Yeah,

(36:37):
Okay. The reason why I'm askingthat question is because all of the
leadership roles and all the things nurturingand all these beautiful things that we're talking
about, you won't really find outthe true colors of the person until you'll
actually go through something. You knowwhat I'm saying. And everything's always loved
when it's all in a lovely,lovely stages and anything. But once you

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hit that real crucial argument, eitherthings are going to either that's going to
break you out, start breaking y'allapart, that's going to bring y'all closer
together. To me, it's atthat point when you start finding out is
she really the one? She canhave all these great characteristics and all these
exemple for all these beautiful things untily'all hit that argument, and you might

(37:22):
have to go have a couple ofmajor arguments first before you actually truly find
out because the first argument, andnine times out of ten Frix most of
the time the arguments are things thatyou don't really even to a certain degree,
care about that man. But it'slike sometimes you either got to just

(37:42):
say it because it's like, yo, if I don't say, I'm gonna
get taken advantage of or but Iguess what I'm trying to say is you
got to get through that argument firstso you can see how the person carries
himself during that time and afterwards andsaying with Kathy, but Eddie, Joe

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Ash, Jenny, do y'all agreewith me? Ye? Yes? So
like that first Joe Ash and Eddiethe first time and Jenny the first time
y'all had a major argument with y'alluh spouses or whatever, like do y'all
mind sharing? What was it about? Or how did y'all get through it?

(38:30):
Or whatever the case may be.Was it more that person being angry
with you and you were just like, you know what I mean? Like
what in fact, Genny, Iwant you to tell this one first,
Jenny, what was what was themajor argument that you had and what did
y'all do to overcome it? Andyou know how old were you at the

(38:52):
time too, because I think agematurity plays a major part inner as well.
Yeah, I think we had amajor argument way back when you were
still in the first year. Iguess of our relationship as a boy and
girlfriend. And yeah, I thinkit was quite petty that time. So

(39:15):
we were in a public place andhe, I don't know, I got
I think I got offended by whathe said or I can't remember anymore,
but I got quite sensitive that Ileft him at the mall and wrote a
public transport and there and then thenwhen I got home, he was at

(39:37):
my house. He arrived earlier thanI did. And yeah, so he
was the one who you know,approached me and asked for forgiveness. Now
that I'm pretty sure in his mindhe didn't do anything wrong. Yeah,
but because I guess he cared foryou, he loved you, and he

(40:00):
did something that hurts your feelings.Because ninety nine percent of this is gonna
be that a lot of times.Guys, you know, we're not as
emotional as woman or so we'll dosomething and it's not that big of a
deal to us, but because it'sa big deal to them, it's just
like, all right, man,you take you're gonna find yourself, Fritch,
You're gonna find yourself asking for forgivingus a lot, even when you

(40:23):
don't feel like you're wrong. ButJinny so so he he he he he
rolled straight to your house and askfor forgiveness. Yeah, because I think
what happened then was he raised hisvoice at me and we were in a
public place, and I got embarrassed. So I just left him then and

(40:44):
there. He was embarrassed. Ileft him because I was embarrassed that he
raised his voice at me about somethingthat I he raised his voice. I
don't know. I don't know.Maybe because we gotta we also got to
address that. We got to addressthat too. Why would he want to
raise his voice that you want public? You had? What did you do?

(41:06):
Every every action has a reaction toit. What did he What did
you do that made him want toraise his rooms to the person he loved
in public? On top of that, I guess he knows that he was
he was wrong at the time.So no, I don't to be true,
To be honest with you, Jenny, he apologized because he just wanted

(41:27):
to keep the peace. I don'tthink that he actually wrong. I know
she was wrong. No, Idon't agree with you, Jenny. I'm
sorry. I think he I thinkhe apologized because it's just simpler to I
know. Maybe he real Jenny,you can remember that Genny, check this

(41:49):
out. You can remember that,but you can't remember why he yelled at
you, why he yelled at you, because he's the person who gets your
did right away with whatever I didyou do? Though? You you remember
everything else, but I remember whatyou see how that works? Remember her

(42:15):
accountability? What did you do?I didn't do anything, I know for
sure something for him. Your husbandis crazy because he yeh that you in
public and out of the blue.I just said something. You guys you

(42:35):
didn't like or like. Now youdid something? What about through Josh.
Shout out to Bounty vin them,Thanks for listening to that, man,
appreciate you. Shout out. Yeah, shout out to Clinton. Clinton your

(42:57):
bar up. Yeah, Yeah,we're gonna lead it. We're gonna lead
that one out there, Barb,go ahead, age yo, My I
think our case is a bit ofa not useful compared to most couples because

(43:22):
we got engaged in the third monthof our relationship. Wow, and so
we didn't have much you bro,sorry, but she swept you off your
feet, bro, and so wehad we had to learn, you know,
uh to you know uh, toface our own issues inside already in

(43:47):
marriage. So this is something like, don't try this at home, you
know, but I think it's theideal listen. Of course, by God's
grace, you know, we're bothhaving the same beliefs in both faith.
But I think, uh, inside, you know, the conflicts inside marriage.
We had the tools, we hadthe foundation, and so we had

(44:10):
to learn, you know, howto navigate it together already inside. So
yeah, so I think there wereactually little things that we discovered along the
way, Like I think our firstone was you. I was creating puzzles.
You know, there one thousand piecepuzzles, so it's just and then

(44:31):
she accidentally tripped over it, andyou know, oh what happened? Things
like that, like you know rightnow we laugh at m B. Yeah,
how long? How long did ittake you to put the puzzle together?
For quite some time? And actuallyI was the one, you know,
putting more into it and so butJosh, not to cut you off.

(44:57):
I remember one asked me to comeover our house, to come over
for a date or whatever, andI came through and she put out a
puzzle and it was like, Idon't know, a thousand pieces. Yeah,
she put it out and put iton the table. I looked at
her it's like I'm not doing that, man, Yeah that I'm out of

(45:19):
here. Man, I ain't doingthat to do that. So anyway,
it's Friday night, man, Sowhat's your wife? Now? Nah?
There you go. Now. Buteven if my wife put it out right

(45:40):
now a thousand looking at it,you know that I'm not doing so respect
to you, respect to you.But you're arguing over that though. That's
that's not a big deal. Though, that's not something to get into a
major argument over unless you were justthat pitch that she was dedicated to the
puzzle something like that. Yeah.So it was like, uh, a

(46:02):
time of you know, awareness ofwell, I could value my you know,
my what my achievements or goals morethan a person that I said I
love major. So was she was? She was she like sorrowful for it,

(46:22):
like like she was so sorry aboutit. Of course because she said,
now, Joe, it was theopposite. If it was the opposite,
would you have been so like sorrowfulbecause I don't know, Yo,
it's a puzzle, Like it's notthat big for me. I didn't like
it's not that big. And Iunderstand, like I understand the effort and
time you put into it and allthe other stuff. But I don't like

(46:43):
yo, fans just a puzzle.Fans like like, why are we having
a big argument about a puzzle?I like, I buy you five more
puzzles created ones already made up,right, you know what I mean?
Yeah? But I think, uh, I think you're already in that point
of matrity where you could say that, uh, you know, in retrospect.

(47:04):
But I think for me it waslike okay, it's it was a
revelation of where I am. Mangotcha? So, Kathy, I want
to hear your argument. Have youhave you and your man have have an
argument? I've had an argument yet? And then so how do you solve
it? How did you how didyou solve it? What was your role

(47:27):
in it? So ye're still inthe baby stage. I gotta wait.
I know I've said we got towait for you to have an argument with
your man before we can figure outfee the one. So first, what
was your argument about? Well,so basically, I'm a person that doesn't

(47:51):
talk, and let's ask or thatat least that's how I you know,
get to get into a conversation oror warm up to a person, or
at least if you want me toopen up ask me questions because I get
steered up when being asked. Andshe asked me to like not generally just

(48:17):
tell about stories about me or aboutmy friends, about my workmates, and
you know, and and I,you know, just my personality is I
don't really open up things out ofnowhere unless you know, like I said,
steered up or get into a conversationabout it. So there's just there's

(48:39):
this one time where I have,I have an appointment with friends that I
wasn't able to tell her that I'vealready decided to attend, and she she
was upset that I did not tellher about it, and she actually thought
that she was thinking about her Andno, not really. She just wanted

(49:05):
me to, you know, updateher about the things that's happenings and happenings
in my life, not really getto say yes or no. She just
wanted to know. So I alsorealized it snowballed into you know, so
it's snowboard. I mean, youreacted, you reacted in a way like,

(49:28):
yo, it's not it's not thatserious. I actually did do that
that, you know. Uh,I thought that it was just a small
thing and and I'll do better nexttime. But then uh yeah, like
I said, it's just snowballed intodifferent other stuff that wasn't there in the

(49:52):
first place, and then we getto talk about things. So yeah,
things got serious. H A lotof emotions, a lot of So let
me ask this one last question.I'm sorry, uh sure, sure sure
who who? Who initiated? Whoinitiated the the the argument she did right,

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she came up to you asking youall these questions. In a way,
yes, because their instances that she'sbringing back the conversation that we that
I thought was already you know,settled, because we got settled the first
time, like we already apologize toeach other and then okay, and then

(50:37):
the next day or two, youknow, it's it's it's there again.
So those those kind of things thatthat happened. I want to shout out
to Tricks again. Man. I'vehad these arguments with my wife before as
well, and I got to thepoint where it's one of those things from

(51:00):
me when she she does this one. We actually had this, we talked
about this one, let's talk aboutit before. But it's like, yo,
I'm gonna take it out when Ifeel like getting up and taking it
out like if you if you thatadamant about getting it out of head,
then you get up and do ityourself. You know what I mean?
But you know what I'm saying,It's like you know, for me,

(51:22):
it's not it's not it's not thatserious like uh but I already know,
like I'm I'm Eddie. I'm gonnalet you shoot your shoe so so real
quick before before we we tap out. What about you? What was your
main major argument with your your youryour your wife at the time? Man?
How many gets old? Who isin the wrong man? Check out

(51:47):
the pattern? Check out the pattern? Though, and Jenny's situation started first
started argument she quote unquote saying he'swrong, and Joe ash argument, however
you want to look at it.She ended up being wrong. Fritz argument,
however you want to look at it. Fritz ended up being wrong.

(52:10):
Matter of fact, from Fritz standingup from self, it's snowboard into other
arguments that he probably wasn't even preparedto talk about. And it just went
from that. I went downhill fromthere. So he ended up having to
take multiple l's that day. Whatabout you, d M. Long story
short, I had to apologize foryou know, living my socks. I

(52:32):
had that habit of believing my sockswhen they come in the house. I
had to apologie for my house,you know. And that was one.
The next one was about you hadto apologize for leaving your socks. Yes,
yes, she had. No,she doesn't help to. I used
to pick them up later on,you know, but she wants it done

(52:53):
when she wants. She wanted donewhen she wanted to. I'm not taking
off the trush the same thing thatwhen they wanted then I will I will
later on, you know. Andalso you know, wanting by utensils to
be in a particular you know order, do you want to particular world?

(53:14):
No, I don't care how theywere. She wants to, but she
wants them too, And I'm like, who cares? Just you know,
as long as you can reach thedu No, I'm right now, bro,
that's that's you let in the kitchen. You got you gotta be man.
That was before we're married. Youknow, you're you're just coming to

(53:35):
see, You're coming over to sayhi and go back to you. Please,
Then what do you know, comeand rearrange everything around. I didn't
find that to be your kid,So what was that actual, so so
the major argument with the socks though, she she first at you about the
socks, was it for the veryvery yeah, I have to apologize and

(53:55):
learn not to leave my socks atthe doorstop. Wow. Okay. I
want to say, for me andmy wife, the arguments that we do
have, like arguing about taking outto charge, those are the arguments that
you will be sitting there saying likethis is gonna make or break our marriage.
Those are just more of you youflushing and anything, uh tricks.

(54:22):
He wants to know where do youput your socks out? Now? Bro?
She said, you want you learnedyour lesson. I pocket them and
take them as supposed to be pleased. He leaves them on, leave them
a pocket there. Just put themin my pocket and walk them around.
Remember, put them put them inyour pocket. Yeah yeah, you know

(54:45):
to avoid all that, you know, but you got you trained. That's
crazy, that's crazy. You gotto put your socks in your pocket,
bro, you know if it willsave me. You know, I want
no arguments whiting. I feel you. Me said, I'm trying to think

(55:06):
the first time me and my wifegot into like a major argument, I
don't know which one of these twooccurred. First, I actually said this
one time on my on my podcast, on one of the other podcasts,
I said, I remember one timeI was sitting in my chair chilling,

(55:28):
had a regular T shirt on relaxingright, and my wife, I don't
know she was joking or whatever,but she walked over to me and took
a picture and went to go postit on Facebook or something like that,
and I'm like, yo, whatare you doing? And I and I

(55:49):
and I pretty much snapped on itcause I'm like, are you trying to
take like sneak and taking pictures toput them on? And we got into
a major argument that day. Ikicked her out my house inspiral down and
I'm like, Yo, why areyou trying to take you know, I
mean trying to take pictures and stuffand doing all that stuff. You know
what I mean. Shout out toyou, Tricksy. It was nice listening,

(56:13):
she said, it was nice listeningto us. I appreciate you,
thanks for listening. Come back again. But yeah, she said, you
know, we got into an argument, but I think the one I don't
even that was a major argument.We pieced that up over a couple of
days, but I remember another one. It was like fourth of July.
Me and her was driving in thecar and I think, I think I

(56:37):
was complaining about something, and shegot tired of me complaining, so she
just snapped and started going crazy inthe car while I was driving, and
she started going crazy to snap andthen I was like, yo, you're
talking to so I had to pullover and snap back, you know what

(56:59):
I mean. And we going backand forth arguing in the car. But
the thing about me for me islike I can argue with you and not
be I can get over it afterwards, like I'm not those are not things
that you know what I'm saying.And like Eddie, like for instance,
now, even now to this day, Eddie, my wife complains about me

(57:21):
wearing my socks in the house andthen when I get in the bed,
she says, all of the stuffthat I walked around in the house is
in the bed. She says,it's always crumbs in the bed because I
wear my socks around in the houseand I should be wearing house shoes.
So she complains all the time aboutthat. She's gonna do you know what
I mean. All I can sayis love me, man, That's all

(57:43):
you know what I mean. So, yeah, but my wife complains about
me wearing socks in the house andthen afterwards getting in the bed and tracking
dirt and stuff in the bed.You know, it is what it is.
But yeah, Kathy, Fritz forsay, he got his first argument

(58:05):
down, you know, you likeyou got like a good four or five
more to go, Fritz before youcan say she's really the one. You
know what I'm saying? Would you, Jenny? Would you agree with that?
Jenny? Would you agree with that? Joe Eddie? Yeah, it'd
be a lot for me. Yeah, and Kat I didn't. I didn't

(58:27):
break virgenity yet. Man, Igotta have that first argument first. Man.
I would actually to the point,now, if I was in a
relationship starting over, I probably wouldstart an argument just to see how we
can kind of get it out theway. Man, you know what I'm
saying. You feel me, youfeel me, Joe, you get it
out the way. We could seehow each other react to it and stuff

(58:50):
like that, you know what Imean. Like, and I know that
sounds stupid, but yo, I'drather get all out in the open in
the beginning so we could, likeyou have those real serious hard conversations and
be on the same page, andthen to be sitting there all I love
you, I love you, andtwo three months go in and I love
you. I love you too.No, no, no, you spending

(59:12):
all this time with each other.And then y'all get into that one argument
and all of a sudden, you'renot talking no more, and everything off,
you know what I'm saying. Andthen and then from there y'all might
not recover. To kat, yougotta get your argument, and you got
you. You need about three orfour of them things, you know what

(59:34):
I'm saying. But it's eleven ofour man? Uh, Jenny, Jenny,
Yeah, the husband is the prize. Okay, you say something you
know, you know so yourself allthe time, he's surprised. He's the

(59:59):
head of his household. M h, listen, whatever you mean. Let
me tell you why he's surprised.Let me tell you why he's surprised,
because at the end of the day, just like listen, just like we
all here, believe that Jesus Christis surprised, right, yeah, Christ,
Jesus Christ was willing to die andacross for our sins and put us

(01:00:21):
first. Your husband will put hislife on the line for you to protect
you. Okay, that I knowof. Yeah, so he's surprised,
man, Okay, understand how yourperspective about surprise is surprised, Sir,

(01:00:54):
he was surprised when you left himat the mall. I'm surprised. If
you don't know why why you leftthem at the all, I'm surprised you
don't know why you did what youdid. But it's cool. It's cool,

(01:01:15):
it's cool, it's cool. Heyo, Man, Joe, As you
want to give it, well,let me say this. I'm I'm I'm
gonna get everybody a chance, butI want to say to all the mothers.
I know Mother's Day has passed,but I do want to give everybody
opportunity. Happy Mother's Day to youall. You know what I'm saying,

(01:01:36):
Joe, As you want to givea shout out to Bro. Of course,
shout out to my co pilot inlife, my wife, my price.
At the end of the day.We already know she beat you up
earlier. Man, it's for yourshow me your scars, Bro, show

(01:02:00):
your scud. Eddie. We're givinga shout out to Eddie. It's right
off approuse and all right Eddie whowho are doing a shout out to man

(01:02:21):
is more of a question to theman out there, just to pull that
on. Where is it that wemen have selective amnesia when when they're on
there, because here they hear accountability? Man, I hate acountability. So
so yeah, why why select Let'sask the ladies right now, Genny,
why do you have selective and whydo you can't take accountability for your own

(01:02:44):
actually select selective and means you look, listen, we were not even pulling
for your husband. We're not evensaying that your husband is right and what
he did he was wrong party forsnapping on you in front of everybody.
Acknowledge that right, but you can'teven tell us why he snapped on you

(01:03:07):
because you did play a part init. Though he's not He's not the
only one that takes an eleness.You know what I'm saying. He was
wrong for how he reacted. Heneed to control his emotions. All the
men on here would agree with Wewould, we would, we would take
up for you and say, yeah, he was wrong, you know what
I'm saying. But what did youdo? How how is it that you

(01:03:30):
know what he did but you don'tknow what you did. She still don't
remember what did you do? Idid nothing? That temporary Kathy, you

(01:03:52):
got that. You know you weredoing that till you don't, Kathy,
you be taking accountability. No,hold on, hold on, hold on,
hold on, Eddie, on topof that, Eddie. It's hard
to get woman to apologize. VerI didn't know here, You don't.

(01:04:15):
You don't even know what you wrong, Fritz. I'm telling you now,
Fritz. Hardful woman to apologize manwhen they're wrong, it's hard. They
have selective amnesia, and they won'tapologies themselves. They won't. Josh am
I correct, Josh have to stillsit next to danger. Yeah, Selenny,

(01:04:51):
Jenny got selective amnesia. I'm surprised, Jenny. You you you you
you old enough. You you've beenin how long you've been married, twenty
twenty years? You should be pastthat already. Man. You don't even

(01:05:12):
know why you why you selects Along time ago. I would remember the
ones that are most you only remember. You don't even remember what he did
wrong. You don't remember what youdid wrong. That's that selective amnesia.
I just remember the situation. That'sselective Jenny, All right, real quick,
Jenny, tell me a time thatyou apologize to him for something that

(01:05:35):
you did, and you initiated theapology, how did you apologize? Came
up to him and said, well, like, what what? What did
you do? What did you dothat you had to for? I guess
I was kind of grouchy, that'sright. Yeah, no hormone. So

(01:06:02):
so you you don't want to elaborateon the story. It's you don't or
you don't or you don't remember.Not that big of a deal. So
I just said sorry, and you'reright. So you never really did anything
wrong, all right. So otherthan that, so just was really major,
nothing really major. You never havefault. I can say that I'm

(01:06:28):
never at a fault. Sometimes i'massault. It's more on him. Guys
who I was listening to that theyhave a hard time apologize for French.
You won't go to shout to anybody, man, Yeah, I'll do.

(01:06:51):
You give a shout out to mygirlfriend who's listening right now. She just
uh texted me that she really wantedto so bad. So hey, Willa,
I'm more than happy to have youon the show and join us,
you know what I mean? Ortype in the chat man, you know,

(01:07:13):
yeah, I actually told her,dude, just type in the coming
life stream. Josh I had to, Josh I had to josh Oh,
well did oh. Let's put holdon kind blessing and light for me and

(01:07:36):
not something you win for a relationshipis something you held together. So let's
face those future arguments. Oh,she said, she ready for those arguments,
Fritz, let's face it together.Man. I like how she's talking.

(01:07:57):
Fritz, you should go, youshould get off the phone and start
arguing with her. Right, that'sjust kidding. But now the thing that
I just want everybody to understand that, Yo, you know what I'm saying
a lot of times people don't realizethat having the arguments just the first thing
that like everything goes, everything goesgood, Everything is good in the beginning

(01:08:21):
until you have those arguments. Man, new arguments is what everybody on here
who's married or been married will tellyou that everything's cool until you have your
first argument and then your argument.The arguments either gonna set you off your
axis or it's gonna it's either gonnabreak. I tell everybody, Heat does

(01:08:44):
two things. Heat friction either notey'all together or breaks you'all apart. That's
what he does. So having heatedarguments is either going to do one of
the two yep, Joe I said, is gonna bring out worst and let's
or give us a chance to growout one a the other. So don't

(01:09:06):
don't. Those are those are whatI call, uh you know, stormy
trials tribulations that you're gonna have togo through in life. You're gonna also
have to go through them in life, and you also gonna have to go
through them in your own personal relationship. You don't have to go through them
in your business relationship. You're gonnahave to go through trials and tribulations in

(01:09:27):
life in general, nothing nothing tome. Actually, if I was in
a relationship and everything was going soso good, I would be mentally preparing
myself for the trial and triplations theycoming. Because it's not about how you
handle yourself when things are going good. It's how you handle yourself. That's
when you're test. When you're beingtested. You know what I'm saying,

(01:09:54):
and we know so far that whenyou're being tested selective amnesia, it's gonna
make the argument even worse. Whenyou're in Eddie won't give a shout to
anybody real quick Eddie. No,I think I've said enough. My man,
Cat who you want to give ashout out to? Cat? I

(01:10:17):
want to give a shout out tomy sister was watching the show and and
my boyfriend, and I was waitingto see him. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, hold on say that again. Your boyfriend's watching right now. He

(01:10:39):
was, Your boyfriend was watching.He was nice. Yeah. I would
love to have him on the showtoo, Man, tell him to join
us one day. Man, wecan chop it up. I love to
meet the man that swept you offyour feet. Yeah, we out of

(01:11:00):
here. Man. Starting off,everybody in Judy enjoyed the enjoyed the week,
enjoy themselves. Uh, keep upthe good fight, you know what
I mean? What's the next?What's the next romantic holiday coming up?
Mother's Day is coming up? Right? No? That was just my I'm

(01:11:21):
bugging. Is it true? Fathersdon't get the same amount of love that
mothers do on Mother's Day like onFather's Day? Agreed? You agree?
Why if we're the prized, butwe won't get no love, man,
because we just keeping loving secure forthat, It's sounds like men and do

(01:11:48):
it more than women do. Man. That would be good for the next,
next one. Why is it thatmen endoor more a woman? They
won't They won't admit it though.Cat hold on real quick, we're gonna

(01:12:10):
sign out. Cat, I justgot a quick question for you. Did
you tell your boyfriend that you havenothing to offer? I don't want to
talk about that. I love you. You never told him that? What

(01:12:32):
do you know that already? Ishe? Is he settling for you?
All right? Man? We gothere. Y'all feel the stake with I
know, I know it's getting laidover there. We're starting out. You
have a good night. Appreciate y'all. See y'all next week. Jeez,