August 5, 2024 • 42 mins
SAMMY ZONE KNOWN FOR BEING A FREESTYLE ARTIST STARTED IN 1995 WITH BROKEN PROMISES. HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE IN AND OUT OF THE BUSIENESS OF MUISC
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Open your ears and turn off your mind of what
you thought you knew, because it is time for real talk,
real music on the l d M radio station.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Or I mean hint that this is your girl, Evy.
Welcome to another episode of real Talk, Real Music here
on the LDN radio dot Com.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you? I hope you're doing well and you
ready for this? Are you guys?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Ready for my special guests joining me today? Recording artists, songwriter,
incredible human being, the remarkable and talented Sami.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Girl. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
How are you Sammy?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
How are you good? I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
How are you feeling today?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I'm feeling pretty good today. Yeah, today's a happy sunny day.
I got, you know, I got my my, my friend,
the family by my side, and the sun shining over
my head. So I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's that's a blessing, and that's that's all we we
can look forward and survive to lift like that, you know,
at peace. You know, listen, at the end of the day,
we we we get to.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Sleep at night.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
We get to sleep at night peacefully. So we just
got to keep staying positive. So thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
For joining me today.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know you have been in the music industry for
a while now, and you have written songs you have been.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think we lost Sammie, we lost Sammy. Wait wait, okay,
so Sammy is back. You know, things happened. Listen, this
is not a bagone. We didn't lose power. That is
so good. So I'm glad. I'm glad that you're back.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But like I was saying, you know, you have written
so many songs for other artists, for yourself, and you
have collaborating you have I've been part of many great
songs out there with many amazing artists. But how has
freestyle evolved over the years in your opinion?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I guess the sound has definitely evolved. You know, it's
kind of it's a little it's a thin line when
you say evolved, because back in the day there were
lots of collaborations. Then there was a point where a
lot of freestyle artists weren't doing any collaborations. Now you
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see more of it, which is really good. It's very
helpful for both artists and genre. And you know, I
think the evolution of freestyle should should be balanced off
with the sound trying to mold its way into what's new.
You know, where you know, you have the Christina Aguilaris
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and you know you have the Ariana Grandees, and you
have to try to evolve into that stuff or form
of sound in order to you know, to progress, you can't.
You have to you know, move forward. So I think
that's very important, and I see that it hasn't in
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somewhat a way, so I'm very happy. You know that
a lot of people have have changed their styles and
adapted to some of the newer stuff. But then of
course you have some, you know, some some producers that
choose to stay in their comfort zone with with the
old school sound and whatnot. You know, I mean, there's
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there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that.
I mean, it's to each his own. You know, the
word freestyle, the genre freestyle, you know, it's it's it's
of a choice, it's a it's a particular sound. It's
you know, so you can't be R and B and
say yet freestyle because because not, freestyle has a very
unique sound in itself.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So keeping there it is that I have to agree
with you.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Right, it's very important to keep true to the sounds, so,
you know, but the evolution, of course, you know, incorporating
sense different sense, and you know, trying to trying to
be a little more clever with with how you produce
and how you write. I think it's very important. Like
I think that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Sometimes it feels like freestyle is all about love, and
which is wonderful.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I mean love.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean I'm a person that I'm in love with
being in love because we love life, we love our family,
we love our partners, we love our friends. But you know,
it's always good to have that song that comes out
of nowhere and it just talks about life about listen,
we go through things.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
How can you cope with it? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Although it's it's you know, sometimes I feel kind of
like people think freesile it is always lovely dovey and
it's all about love.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, the songs out there that mean they have other meanings, right.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You know, if you're a writer, I believe you should
adapt and try to be a little metaphoric when you're
trying to write things. You don't always have to say
the word love in order to mean it. You know,
you don't know, you know, and your story could be
based it could be written the same way. It's just
the way it's written. So yeah, it's all in the writing.
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It's all in the craft.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So yeah, do you have like what is your process
when you decide to now that you mentioned about writing,
do you have a process or a specific way of like, Okay,
I'm just gonna sit down and I'm going to write
a song or do you have to be inspired or
you're just out of the blue. You could be listen
taking a shower and you're like.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh, your birthday, Wait, let me write about this damn soul.
This soul feels good, you know what I mean? Like that,
that creative process, like it just I.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Get you kind of varies. You know. I've never really
had one thing that led me to writing certain things
like I'll give you for instance, years ago, when I
you know, when I wrote a lot of the older stuff,
you know, I sat at a table, I was given
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the music and basically I just you know, I try
to connect emotionally to the sound of the song and
just blurted out things that were happening to me or
happening to a friend, or something that was kind of
relatable in my life. And that's how I gained the
inspiration back then. Then flashed forward to like two thousand
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and eight when I started working with Carlos Rios and
he handed me a track titled Without You. It wasn't
titled without You because it didn't have lyrics or anything too,
so it was just the skeleton of the song, but
it was it just I was like, wow, I loved it,
and he was like, Sam, this is possibly gonna be
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Forlicett Melendez, so I want you to try to think
out the box. And I was relatable, but I try
to be very conscious when I when I I literally
when I sat and I sang the song, I worried
more about my pronunciation than anything. So I don't know,
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you know, there's little things in that song that if
you really take a serious listen to, you'll be like, oh,
now you're trying to say I did you know things
like that, and I'm really just pronounced the words clearly,
because you know how like when you hear a song
and you'd be like yeah, yo oh they're saying, you know,
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like yeah, I'll give you like Michael Jackson mama saying mama,
so macho sack right, no time, I'm not going to
stop like that, that's what he's saying. I'm saying almost time.
I'm not going to stop, and everybody thought he was
saying mama, saying mama, sa, mama coosa.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think people don't take the time to listen to
the lyrics and understand them, you know, I don't, you know,
And there's no reason why you got.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
To keep listening to it.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I am for conscious about trying to you know, pronounce
the you know, pronounce the words properly clear, even though
it's like when your brain when you're singing and you're
trying to pronounce it, but you're trying to throw a
little inflection on it and you kind of throw off,
you throw yet bunch off. But I found the balance
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and I was able to do it, thankfully. But yeah,
you know, those to me things are very important, you know,
and very inspiring when it comes to writing, you know,
I have I have different ways to to like I
got a whole like in my phone, I have literally
page after page.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Wow, I can imagine lyrics and.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'm like, oh my god, this is this is great.
It just popped in my head. Oh my god. By
faith I live for which I gave my heart belongs
to you. So this so I'm sure I love so
pure a trust between us two and I'm like, damn,
that's a perfect song.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Yeah, wow, No, because it's so important, you know when
you write a song, you know, just to connect and
and see where your mentality and emotion and you know
what level are you.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
In because you know the other day I was looking
at a little.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
TikTok, a little video that they were talking about remember
that eighty song.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know she's just sixty years old.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So then it's like, you know, at that time, you
didn't realize what he was singing about. But now as
a songwriter, you know, is it do you feel the
pressure of you know, like you know, I have to
be very clear with certain thing because that was like,
you know, people get offence.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You know, girl, how to watch what you saying things?
But us it's misinterpreted, you know, so you have to
be very careful. You could get you gotta you got
you know, That's what I'm saying. Using the metaphors are cool,
but you gotta be careful that that metaphor doesn't lead
to opening you up exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And it's so people are being they're so sensitive nowadays. Yeah,
Like you know, as I'm getting older, and I remember,
you know, when I was little, I didn't care.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'll be like, hey, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But now it's so sensitive and and I could just
imagine the pressure of you guys, you know, singing a
certain way, performing a certain.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Way, dealing with your fans a certain way.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And it's like, because everything has evolved, it has changed.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeahs back and very different. It was in and out. Yeah,
the majority was VIP, stay there, it's time to perform.
You saying you're out. Uh, no access to fans. Fans
had no access to the artists right, access to a
lot of people, unless if you knew somebody, who knew somebody.
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Now it's really different. And I taken advantage of these hops, like, yo,
I want to connect with the fans. I do, so
I'll sit with them, I'll hang with them, right listen.
I did a show once up in Connecticut, and I
literally it was a booth and I asked the people
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that were at the booth. I said, do you guys
mind if I sit here for a minute. I SA,
it's really crowd. They're like no, you could sit down,
And all of a sudden, like twenty minutes later, I
jumped on stage. That was you. I can't believe, and
you're only asking us. I'm like, I'm a regular dude, man,
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you know, I'm a regular and then you know, we
kind of it was it was really cool. It was
a very cute moment, you know what I'm saying, and
things like that. I love that. I love that. I
love having those little those little stories and those interactions
with a lot of people that they normally wouldn't get.
You know, it's very hard. You know, a lot of
you know, a lot of the older are set in
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their ways and very cautious because you just don't know,
you don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And you know, this is another question, how do you
feel about the internet the way it has impacted music?
Because you just mentioned about they're very cautious. But it's
just the Internet has impacted freestyle so much and music
in general, but freestyle right now, it's like all these
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the fans, people that have become like the just know
you like they treat you like your family, you know,
but you got to be very.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Cautious interaction, you know what I'm saying. You know, if
somebody says, hid Stammy, I love your music, I'm not
going to ignore them. I want to say thank you
very much. And then sometimes it leads into more conversations.
They'll tell me a story. So the access is there
now now this and then the information see where a
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lot of people didn't know so and so sang that song,
or so and so doesn't sing that song. You know
what I'm saying now that there's plenty of impostors. And
then you'll find that there's plenty of people that you
had no idea sang certain you know songs or wrote
certain songs. Because now the internet has opened the eyes
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to all the fans. It's very accessible. It's right there.
Your finger tipscsed, oh.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
No, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And do you feel pressure? Because sometimes I have witness
that if a fan, oh he was rude to me.
He didn't have not even one minute to say hi
to me, And they'll go in.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
The internet and do something be like, oh he's so rude.
You know it's me.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I will feel kind of pressure, like, oh my god,
I don't even know if I you.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Know I Do you feel like a robot? Sometimes? Like
a robot will be like, okay, hi, how are you?
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Because you don't want to overstep any boundaries or do
you you don't want to come across mood or you know,
like listen, I have to go. I can't talk to
you to month, but I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You know, it's a very very tough balance, but I
really try to make it a thing where I give
everybody five minutes. Absolutely, I think it's so important to
connect to the fans and give them that five minutes.
You know, when you know, it's like you're paying a
ticket to come and see me, right, you're you're you're
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harder and money, and of course you know you want
you want to hear the songs, but to have a
story behind it, it becomes even more powerful and more meaningful.
So if I with you and I don't know you,
and I'm like, oh my god, I'm telling you thank
you for coming out to see me. I really appreciate
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you taking out your time. That's going to impact somebody
to the point they're going to be like, yo, he
didn't have to do that. He stood here, We hung out,
we last we were talking for about ten fifteen minutes,
and then like, hey, guys, could you excuse me a second.
I just want to say hi to a group of
people that just walked in. But you see, that's how
I do it, not does it like that, so I
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could understand again because people have to be cautious with
who they get their five minutes to. So it's very difficult,
but it's not easy. You gotta know how to balance it.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So you know, you do you do it, and you know,
as far as you know, I've seen you perform and
I say hello, and you always always.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Have the time like how are you? Thank you for coming?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You know, and that as a fan, I was very appreciated.
I appreciate any any little second that you could give me.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I would appreciate that forever.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So you know, I can understand that as a fan,
you know. But at the same time, you got to
be very cautious. People are like, you know, I don't
know about some people.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Like I'll give you scenarios. Some girls you'd be like, hey, hi,
how are you all of a sudden nigga Yo? Nigga
was all my ship?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh oh yes, I.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Let me tell you. Don't confuse the niceness guys with
with the being cordial and respectable because true, true.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Oh my goodness, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
That's why a regular like yourself, right, if you try
to be nice to somebody that that probably happens to
you several times, right.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He does.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It does because I'm always nice. Like for me, like
I'm always nice, I'm always bubbly. That's just the way
I am. Anybody who knows me, that's this is me.
But sometimes people just they just want to take and
take and I'm like, listen, let me just go over there,
let me just have a drink, let me just relax.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I'm going back to you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But it's just some people they're just unbelievable and they
assume things right, you know, And that is like I
had to give it to you guys, you know, as
an artist, as you know performance, because it's like it's hard.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean not only are you dealing you know.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Dealing with different characters as with the fan base, but
in this business, dealing with all.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Sorts of characters positive negative, it's just you know, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You know, have you been criticized, I mean, both constructive
and negative in your career so far for you know,
the way your hair, you could be the silliest stupid this.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I did Frankie Cutlass's show, and uh I posted it
up on my TikTok and I was wearing a white
outfit and someone commented, he damn, homeboy, that shirt looks
awfully tight. So I because I'm real fat, I'm sorry.
I'm trying to. I turned the you know, I turned
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the negative into a positive. He laughed, and he was like,
oh my god, dude, Yo, the way you responded was
completely opposite. He goes, you're a great guy, man, thank you,
And I made a fan out of somebody who potentially
could have been an adversary.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You gotta kill them with kindness.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You gotta kill them with kindness, because it's just they
come out of nowhere with these things.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You know. Not everyone likes chocolate, not everybody likes vanilla.
You know, I don't know what flavor of the week
I am to some of these people. But you know, right,
you know I could only try. I could only you know,
let show people that, you know, I'm genuine. I'm a
real nice guy. And when I say it, I really
mean it. I'm a real nice guy. You meet me, yes,
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you are with you? You know what, It's all good,
any you know, it's all good. And there's even times
that I know certain people just like, hey, man, yo,
I get paid bi weekly. I wish I could go
to this show. Man, I'm a little tired on friends.
I'll say, yeah, don't worry. What's your name? All right?
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I got you plus one. You're on my guest list.
Don't worry. Come down, bro, have some fun. Don't worry
about you know. They're like, oh wow, wow, oh my god.
That goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It does, it does, It does for a lot of
a lot of us. You know who you know, we
love We love music. I think music. It moves us.
It helps us through a tough times in our lives,
and we become so appreciative of you guys because you
you connect with us. You you I don't know the
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way you interpret those songs and and I don't know,
it's just it touches us. So for you to go
out of your way to make me feel good, I
mean that's.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Like wow, continue to do that, you know, as long
as I as long as I can. You know, I
think it's important.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
You know, to you you have this essence.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean that you you will like you know, and
it's something about you it I mean the way you sing,
the way you perform, the way you carry yourself, and
and the love that you give your your your fans.
I mean, people could feel that. I have to tell
you that, you know, just because it's transpires to us,
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and I'm putting myself there because I'm I'm a fan, it.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Transpires to us.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know, we get to know a little bit of
that semi because you show that caring and that that
hard work.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know, you hustle, let me tell you, hustle.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Definitely definitely work into the bone with this genre.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, I could imagine.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Trying to get my thing done.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You know, you have to, you have to and and
you know, it's it's as far as I've learned in
this journey of my of you know, getting to know
you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
People are, like it was mentioned before. You know, some
people are set on their ways and it's not a
lot of new people that are busting their butt.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
They're working hard, trying to I mean, I'm gonna be
honest and.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I'm gonna say it that it's gonna come out of
my mouth. Some of the new stuff is not that great,
I agree, but not that great. And I understand where
they're coming from and why they feel the way they do.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
There's a lot of good.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Music out there, and there's a lot of good artists
and good singers that have talent.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yep. You know. The big misconception is a lot of
the newer artists coming up is they think that they
do a song and it's up on iTunes and they
got twenty people on their page cheering them on that
they have a hit or they should be doing huge concerts.
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Doesn't work like that, That's exactly that absolutely is not
how it works. And if I have to sit here
and explain to any of these artists how it works,
then you need to turn around, go home and start
thinking about something different to do, because if you don't
have a clue on how to make it happen or
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or or trying to WithU just figuring things out properly,
then you have no place in this game.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And I'm and I always, you know, I always put
my two cents in it because you know, I'm the
fan battle. I feel like, listen, I need to see
you do your thing. I need to see you work
because I'm like, that's the type of like man, he's
doing his thing, he's just you know, like or her
she's doing her thing, Like let us see it let's
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the fancy you do, you know, feel that energy, and
it's a shame.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It's a shame that, you know, people there.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Are people that need, that deserve an opportunity, that have
put in the work. That's their chops trying to make
it happen. You know that they're you know, they're just
you know, the tools are very limited for them to
get to where they need to get to. And it's
it's it's it's a it's very difficult. And I you know,
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I I applaud them and I try to help as
much as I possible. You know, for those that I
deem are I hate saying that word worthy, but for
those that really deserve those opportunities, because you know, it
is hard, it.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Is you don't know what I imagine talk.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
To or you know, then you're going to go in circles. Man.
So you know, it's always good to lend the hand.
You never know, you never know.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You never know.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
It is so true, guys, could be the hardest thing
and all of a sudden you need that hand.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, it's so true. It's so true.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I have to agree with you one hundred percent, you know,
and you know we also we are in our time
in music right now that you know, we're dealing with
a lot of mental health, a lot of personal struggles,
A lot of things are happening in our own private life.
And you know now with the music industry is dealing
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with a lot of narcissistic Behaviavior And I've been one
of the persons that I've noticed a lot of like
weird things. And I'm a fan and if a fantacy
it there's something going on, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
It. You know, have you ever felt pushed out of
your comfort zone?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know, musically or otherwise just because an arcssistic person
is you know, they go for that thrill of the hunt.
You know, they exploited other people without guilt of shame,
you know. And the musicians, recording artists, some writers, they
feel that that pressure, you know, they feel like and
Dana balance me like is it you know, am I
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losing my talent?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And you know my balancing emotions? I mean all these.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Sort of things. Have you ever felt pushed out of
your comfort zone? You know we personally, you know otherwise.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Honestly, if it gets to that point, I freeze up
and I'm like, no, I'm not doing it. If I'm
not feeling comfortable with some I'm like, yeah, this ain't happening.
I'm not I'm not gonna do this. I'm sorry, man,
yea even a show. And if I'm presented with an
opportunity and the few to this, that this, but I
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need you to this, that that and can you sing this?
And can you sing that? And I'm like, hold on,
wait a minute. I'm not feeling comfortable with what I'm doing,
then I'm not going to do it. That's me. That's
the bottom line. I'm not I have integrity, I have principle,
and I'm not gonna, you know, compromise any of the
above for for a dollar. And that's you know what
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I'm saying. I'm not gonna make like I'll give you
for instance, I'm not going to make an enemy. MM
when I know certain people don't get along. I try
to avoid putting myself in a situation where a friend
of mine might feel a friended who's in the business.
I try to cope everyone's feelings and you know, I
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get it. You know that's not for everybody. Sometimes not
reciprocated unfortunately, So you know, you go in with very
low expectations. So that way you don't. You know, you
don't come out hurt. You go in with low expectations
and no high expectations, then everything is good. If you're
going in there expecting people to do things in return
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for you, or or to be a certain way with you, no,
it's not gonna happen. It's not You're not gonna happen.
You got to you gotta make you know. You do
what you do because you feel it's right for you
in your head, you know, and if you're doing it
for because you want to be a friend to somebody,
I applaud you. That's great. I'm that guy. But I
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know anything of anybody to do the same for me.
If they do, then I'm like, oh wow, oh wow,
that was that's specure. Thank you, thank you for me.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Mm hmm. It's so true.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I agree with you, and I think that you know,
with all this behavior, sometimes you know, you feel, especially
when you knew and you want, you want to make
it so bad and you want to be accepted so
bad that you without thinking just agree with things. And
this has happened. I mean it happened forever.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, it's forever.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And and I mean it's been said in many documentary
of freestyle and music for R and B Rap.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
But you know, it's crazy, that's it. You got to
pick and choose what you think is gonna work and
what's not gonna You can't dump and be like yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna do it. Oh my god, yeah I want
to be a part of that. No, listen, man again,
you're you're you know, you got to pick and choose
your fight. Yeah, losing a lot more than you're going
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to be gaining in that. So I'm like, nah, you
know me, I'm I'm straight up, I'm like, no, it's
not happening, don't even know.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I'm glad and look it has it has done. I mean,
we still love you. You still you know, you haven't
lost that essence that I mentioned before. You know that
people love about you, you know, And but it's hard.
It's hard. It's hard, really hard. I could imagine.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
It's like I always tell people, you know, like friends
of mine, when they go, yo, I got this new record,
I go, are you sure you want me to hear it?
I'm I'm a very this guy. Man. If you if
you're willing to accept what I say, and this is
all coming from constructive criticism. But don't ask me if
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you know, if you're looking for a pet on the back.
I'm not that guy. I'm definitely not the guy. I'll
tell you straight up, Papa, I don't know. You go
back to the studio and I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Tweak it a little bit because it's not.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I think that they should agree appreciated of that, right.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Because how how do you call yourself a friend if
you're not going to tell your friend the truth, if
you're not going to be Yeah, that's that's being truth
was a part of being a friend, and.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
That happens, and that goes with your personal life. I'm
the type of person that I feel just like that
with my friends. I want them to be you know,
one hundred percent with me. Don't sugar call me. Don't
sugar call the situation. I mean, but hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Don't sugar Okay that that.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't mean to say it like that, but you
know what I mean, like, we don't sugar cote the situation.
Just tell me straight up, tell me what is going on?
What you know, because I would I appreciate that. I
would appreciate that, and I think people should have been appreciated,
because that's what's a true friend.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You know, that's a.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
True friend being honest, to be have to.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Be honest, you know, and you and especially somebody that has.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
The experience that's been around you know, come on, you
know they know what they're talking about, you know, but
you know it's it's just crazy. It's crazy. Do you
ever felt like you were pressured to change your music style?
Meaning like because you know that.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
The reason why I say this is because in the
past and even recently, there's been a lot of people
that decided to try something new, like salsa and stuff
like that. Have you ever been asked to change something
or you know, oh, we love Sammy again?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Wait, wait, we love Sammy again? Oh no, okay, hold on,
hold on, let me see if I get him again. Okay,
so Sammy's back, Samy's back. Listen it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It happens. Listen that that's the or uh since he
and honesty about the you know, just a technology you know,
AI wants to take over.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
So I don't know, that's another that's another show. Know
what I want. I wanted to know. I know that
you feel that the pressure of you know, changing and
evolving but you know.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Like and the reason why I mentioned this is because
in freestyle, you know, people have transitioned to side side.
You know, you've seen the different genres or even use
a little hip hop or a little bit of power,
you know, a little house and in their sound. Do
you ever feel that the pressure or anybody ever asked
you to be like Sammy seeing some size sound, you know,
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some something a ballad.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That's been the one thing a lot of people have
asked me to do, is to do more Spanish songs
or soul side and uh, listen, it is all right.
It is not an easy thing, okay, if if if
you know, if you look back at interviews with Mark Anthony, Hell,
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it's it's very challenging because of course the pronunciation, you
don't want to sound like it. They're from the block
and the brown. You know what I'm saying you exactly.
You want your people to accept and embrace your Spanish
singing style. And I certain artists that have transitioned from that,
(33:37):
like Louis Daymont who sang freestyle and now is full
pledged all on salsa. Yeah, is phenomenal. He is such
a phenomenal talent. And you know, it's like that, you know,
that transition. Now. I would like to, but it has
to be done properly. It has to be done right.
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I would need, you know, a team that I could
you know, work with and you know I could lean
on in reference to getting it done right. I do
have a good friend, of course, who who inspires me
all the time. His name is Angel Ramirez and he
was a member of this UH pop group called the
Barrio Boys.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yes, oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yes, sang with Selena and then multi platinum hits and
he wrote for Mark Anthony and you know, so he's
a good friend of mine for years. He's those guys
that have kept me in that point where I'm like, man,
maybe I should thinking about it, you know, but like
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I said, it has to be done properly.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
It has to be done.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, it has to be on the right time and
the right song and just the whole arrangement.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Right about that swing you know what I'm saying, it's
going to be. It's got to have a lot of
swing to it, you know. It's and I just haven't
found the right balance, so you know, but I'm working
on it. I'm working on Listen.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
And it's like you know it's gonna come on, you know,
on due time, on the right time is gonna come.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Because I know that.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I noticed that a lot of free start artists have tried,
and it's a blessing. But for me, it hasn't catch
you know, it hasn't catched me yet, you know. And
and recently Lisa Lisa just uh you know, did a
little sasa from Hanso on you know she you know,
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so it's as good, but you know, I could understand
the reason why it has to be the right time
and just.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
The way lyrically it has to be put together, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
My god, know, one guy that did it was George
Lemon when he's it was that song has all all
the greatest elements in it, from production to writing and remake.
Yes it's a remake, but the man owned that song
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the way he sang it. He owns that damn and
he did it.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
To be right. It has to be right, you know.
And and so you know, I always wonder if you
ever you know.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
This is why I asked the question, because you know,
now it's like I said, I mentioned, I saw Lisa Lisa,
then even Julie Torres when I went to see her
last year She's sanging and some side she was she
even sitting in the stage.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
She's like, listen, this is me trying to dip my
toes in it. But you know, but it's hard, it's
really hard.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I've done freestyle in Spanish, but I definitely I want
to continue to do a little more. You know, I'm
gradually I might get there, but you know, for now,
that's that's what I can give for now is just
a little bit of freestyle in Spanish, so you know,
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but I'll get there at some point, I will, well
you will.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I think that is is when the time is right,
it's it's right, you know. And I think the way
that the music is evolving, the world is changing, it's
not the same anymore. I think that, you know, once
you find your time, that's when it's like, you know what,
let me just the blah blah blah blah, look at.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You know what I mean. But listen, so let's.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Talk about what's next, what's happening, what's you know, what's happening.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Right now, I'm working on new music with my partner
Carlos Barrios, who oh my buddy. Definitely working on some
new stuff. And I have a mess load of shows
that I've been working on and that a month. So
I'm very excited. I'm super blessed to have these opportunities
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that continue to fall on my left. I mean, believe me,
it's not easy. It's a lot of them. But again,
I have a great team I work with, and you know,
they're very you know, they're very helpful, and we're just
getting the job done. We're trying.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I'm glad because that's another important thing is to surround us.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Over with positive people.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
You have to surround yourself with good people, hardworking people
that I'm in business and like you know, they're going
to keep it a hundred with you.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Oh yeah, listen, my right hand his name is Edgar,
and he is a friend. He wears several hats. He's
just that guy. I wouldn't know what I would be
doing without him.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
He's I'm so happy.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Oh you know I do. Other guy and big up
to you at Yeah. Look I got enough. I got
a good I got a good team between Carlos Various,
Benny Moves, Uh, Edgar Acuno. You know, I have a definite,
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you know, solid team I work with. Salabtello, who's a
good and dear friend to me. And I work with
a lot of people, but you know, the most standout
people are pretty much those guys right there, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
And I'm grateful, amazing, amazing, and I'm so glad and
grateful that you know, things that are moving, and I
hope that it's not only that it continues, but we're
other artists too. You know, you guys got to work together.
Let's just you know, let's for each other, you know,
for the for everyone.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
All the listeners. Just follow him. You know, he has
social media, Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
TikTok you know, just keep up today where all the
events are coming.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Support New York, Florida, Connecticut, anywhere where he lands. I
don't know he's aware.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Okay, I promise you, guys, I'll give you the five
minutes that you know that you deserve. You deserve more
than five, but I promise I'll give you that you
know for sure, and I'll just be one of my shows.
You'll you know, let's let's interact, let's and your.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Music is available on all digital streaming platforms, So I
don't want to hear it that you don't know you
can't find anything.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
You better stop. You know, he's on social media, like
I mentioned, just support, you know. Thank you so much, Sammy.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I appreciate you so much, the little little little pain
of sugar that I could put in.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
You know, you got me. I'm you know, I'm very grateful, very.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Very grateful side to you. I am get me those.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Five minutes and you, I mean so you know, you
give me those five minutes, and you inspire me to like,
you know what, let me continue doing what what I'm
doing and and you know, and that's that's just like
coming from the bottom of my heart, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Thank you, Thank you, thank you. Just keep on going.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Many blessings and love for you to your family. Yatu
Savell I'll see you soon, yeah, Yatu, I'm gonna be
in the front singing, you know, my Whitney and my
Mariah better you know, sempre, blessings, press and pray. Thank
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you so much, Sammy, Thank you, everybody. Just stay tuned.
We're gonna listen to a couple of Sammy's uh songs
and just vote so it could get on the top
ten and tap twenty.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Of the week. Listen.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Support, support, support, support, many blessings and we will be
right back.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
All right
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Now, let's listen to some great music and remember to
come back next week for some more real talk, real
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Open your ears and turn off your mind of what
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Or I mean hint that this is your girl, Evy.
Welcome to another episode of real Talk, Real Music here
on the LDN radio dot Com.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you? I hope you're doing well and you
ready for this? Are you guys?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Ready for my special guests joining me today? Recording artists, songwriter,
incredible human being, the remarkable and talented Sami.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Girl. How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
How are you Sammy?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
How are you good? I'm good. I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
How are you feeling today?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I'm feeling pretty good today. Yeah, today's a happy sunny day.
I got, you know, I got my my, my friend,
the family by my side, and the sun shining over
my head. So I'm good.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's that's a blessing, and that's that's all we we
can look forward and survive to lift like that, you know,
at peace. You know, listen, at the end of the day,
we we we get to.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Sleep at night.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
We get to sleep at night peacefully. So we just
got to keep staying positive. So thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
For joining me today.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know you have been in the music industry for
a while now, and you have written songs you have been.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I think we lost Sammie, we lost Sammy. Wait wait, okay,
so Sammy is back. You know, things happened. Listen, this
is not a bagone. We didn't lose power. That is
so good. So I'm glad. I'm glad that you're back.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
But like I was saying, you know, you have written
so many songs for other artists, for yourself, and you
have collaborating you have I've been part of many great
songs out there with many amazing artists. But how has
freestyle evolved over the years in your opinion?
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I guess the sound has definitely evolved. You know, it's
kind of it's a little it's a thin line when
you say evolved, because back in the day there were
lots of collaborations. Then there was a point where a
lot of freestyle artists weren't doing any collaborations. Now you
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see more of it, which is really good. It's very
helpful for both artists and genre. And you know, I
think the evolution of freestyle should should be balanced off
with the sound trying to mold its way into what's new.
You know, where you know, you have the Christina Aguilaris
(02:58):
and you know you have the Ariana Grandees, and you
have to try to evolve into that stuff or form
of sound in order to you know, to progress, you can't.
You have to you know, move forward. So I think
that's very important, and I see that it hasn't in
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somewhat a way, so I'm very happy. You know that
a lot of people have have changed their styles and
adapted to some of the newer stuff. But then of
course you have some, you know, some some producers that
choose to stay in their comfort zone with with the
old school sound and whatnot. You know, I mean, there's
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there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that.
I mean, it's to each his own. You know, the
word freestyle, the genre freestyle, you know, it's it's it's
of a choice, it's a it's a particular sound. It's
you know, so you can't be R and B and
say yet freestyle because because not, freestyle has a very
unique sound in itself.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So keeping there it is that I have to agree
with you.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Right, it's very important to keep true to the sounds, so,
you know, but the evolution, of course, you know, incorporating
sense different sense, and you know, trying to trying to
be a little more clever with with how you produce
and how you write. I think it's very important. Like
I think that.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Sometimes it feels like freestyle is all about love, and
which is wonderful.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I mean love.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I mean I'm a person that I'm in love with
being in love because we love life, we love our family,
we love our partners, we love our friends. But you know,
it's always good to have that song that comes out
of nowhere and it just talks about life about listen,
we go through things.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
How can you cope with it? Right?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Although it's it's you know, sometimes I feel kind of
like people think freesile it is always lovely dovey and
it's all about love.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
No, the songs out there that mean they have other meanings, right.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
You know, if you're a writer, I believe you should
adapt and try to be a little metaphoric when you're
trying to write things. You don't always have to say
the word love in order to mean it. You know,
you don't know, you know, and your story could be
based it could be written the same way. It's just
the way it's written. So yeah, it's all in the writing.
(05:26):
It's all in the craft.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So yeah, do you have like what is your process
when you decide to now that you mentioned about writing,
do you have a process or a specific way of like, Okay,
I'm just gonna sit down and I'm going to write
a song or do you have to be inspired or
you're just out of the blue. You could be listen
taking a shower and you're like.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Oh, your birthday, Wait, let me write about this damn soul.
This soul feels good, you know what I mean? Like that,
that creative process, like it just I.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Get you kind of varies. You know. I've never really
had one thing that led me to writing certain things
like I'll give you for instance, years ago, when I
you know, when I wrote a lot of the older stuff,
you know, I sat at a table, I was given
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the music and basically I just you know, I try
to connect emotionally to the sound of the song and
just blurted out things that were happening to me or
happening to a friend, or something that was kind of
relatable in my life. And that's how I gained the
inspiration back then. Then flashed forward to like two thousand
(06:41):
and eight when I started working with Carlos Rios and
he handed me a track titled Without You. It wasn't
titled without You because it didn't have lyrics or anything too,
so it was just the skeleton of the song, but
it was it just I was like, wow, I loved it,
and he was like, Sam, this is possibly gonna be
(07:03):
Forlicett Melendez, so I want you to try to think
out the box. And I was relatable, but I try
to be very conscious when I when I I literally
when I sat and I sang the song, I worried
more about my pronunciation than anything. So I don't know,
(07:24):
you know, there's little things in that song that if
you really take a serious listen to, you'll be like, oh,
now you're trying to say I did you know things
like that, and I'm really just pronounced the words clearly,
because you know how like when you hear a song
and you'd be like yeah, yo oh they're saying, you know,
(07:44):
like yeah, I'll give you like Michael Jackson mama saying mama,
so macho sack right, no time, I'm not going to
stop like that, that's what he's saying. I'm saying almost time.
I'm not going to stop, and everybody thought he was
saying mama, saying mama, sa, mama coosa.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I think people don't take the time to listen to
the lyrics and understand them, you know, I don't, you know,
And there's no reason why you got.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
To keep listening to it.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
I am for conscious about trying to you know, pronounce
the you know, pronounce the words properly clear, even though
it's like when your brain when you're singing and you're
trying to pronounce it, but you're trying to throw a
little inflection on it and you kind of throw off,
you throw yet bunch off. But I found the balance
(08:38):
and I was able to do it, thankfully. But yeah,
you know, those to me things are very important, you know,
and very inspiring when it comes to writing, you know,
I have I have different ways to to like I
got a whole like in my phone, I have literally
page after page.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Wow, I can imagine lyrics and.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
I'm like, oh my god, this is this is great.
It just popped in my head. Oh my god. By
faith I live for which I gave my heart belongs
to you. So this so I'm sure I love so
pure a trust between us two and I'm like, damn,
that's a perfect song.
Speaker 5 (09:12):
Yeah, wow, No, because it's so important, you know when
you write a song, you know, just to connect and
and see where your mentality and emotion and you know
what level are you.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
In because you know the other day I was looking
at a little.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
TikTok, a little video that they were talking about remember
that eighty song.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know she's just sixty years old.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
So then it's like, you know, at that time, you
didn't realize what he was singing about. But now as
a songwriter, you know, is it do you feel the
pressure of you know, like you know, I have to
be very clear with certain thing because that was like,
you know, people get offence.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
You know, girl, how to watch what you saying things?
But us it's misinterpreted, you know, so you have to
be very careful. You could get you gotta you got
you know, That's what I'm saying. Using the metaphors are cool,
but you gotta be careful that that metaphor doesn't lead
to opening you up exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
And it's so people are being they're so sensitive nowadays. Yeah,
Like you know, as I'm getting older, and I remember,
you know, when I was little, I didn't care.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
I'll be like, hey, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But now it's so sensitive and and I could just
imagine the pressure of you guys, you know, singing a
certain way, performing a certain.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Way, dealing with your fans a certain way.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And it's like, because everything has evolved, it has changed.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeahs back and very different. It was in and out. Yeah,
the majority was VIP, stay there, it's time to perform.
You saying you're out. Uh, no access to fans. Fans
had no access to the artists right, access to a
lot of people, unless if you knew somebody, who knew somebody.
(11:04):
Now it's really different. And I taken advantage of these hops, like, yo,
I want to connect with the fans. I do, so
I'll sit with them, I'll hang with them, right listen.
I did a show once up in Connecticut, and I
literally it was a booth and I asked the people
(11:26):
that were at the booth. I said, do you guys
mind if I sit here for a minute. I SA,
it's really crowd. They're like no, you could sit down,
And all of a sudden, like twenty minutes later, I
jumped on stage. That was you. I can't believe, and
you're only asking us. I'm like, I'm a regular dude, man,
(11:47):
you know, I'm a regular and then you know, we
kind of it was it was really cool. It was
a very cute moment, you know what I'm saying, and
things like that. I love that. I love that. I
love having those little those little stories and those interactions
with a lot of people that they normally wouldn't get.
You know, it's very hard. You know, a lot of
you know, a lot of the older are set in
(12:09):
their ways and very cautious because you just don't know,
you don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And you know, this is another question, how do you
feel about the internet the way it has impacted music?
Because you just mentioned about they're very cautious. But it's
just the Internet has impacted freestyle so much and music
in general, but freestyle right now, it's like all these
(12:39):
the fans, people that have become like the just know
you like they treat you like your family, you know,
but you got to be very.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Cautious interaction, you know what I'm saying. You know, if
somebody says, hid Stammy, I love your music, I'm not
going to ignore them. I want to say thank you
very much. And then sometimes it leads into more conversations.
They'll tell me a story. So the access is there
now now this and then the information see where a
(13:13):
lot of people didn't know so and so sang that song,
or so and so doesn't sing that song. You know
what I'm saying now that there's plenty of impostors. And
then you'll find that there's plenty of people that you
had no idea sang certain you know songs or wrote
certain songs. Because now the internet has opened the eyes
(13:36):
to all the fans. It's very accessible. It's right there.
Your finger tipscsed, oh.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
No, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
And do you feel pressure? Because sometimes I have witness
that if a fan, oh he was rude to me.
He didn't have not even one minute to say hi
to me, And they'll go in.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
The internet and do something be like, oh he's so rude.
You know it's me.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I will feel kind of pressure, like, oh my god,
I don't even know if I you.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Know I Do you feel like a robot? Sometimes? Like
a robot will be like, okay, hi, how are you?
How you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Because you don't want to overstep any boundaries or do
you you don't want to come across mood or you know,
like listen, I have to go. I can't talk to
you to month, but I gotta go.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
You know, it's a very very tough balance, but I
really try to make it a thing where I give
everybody five minutes. Absolutely, I think it's so important to
connect to the fans and give them that five minutes.
You know, when you know, it's like you're paying a
ticket to come and see me, right, you're you're you're
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harder and money, and of course you know you want
you want to hear the songs, but to have a
story behind it, it becomes even more powerful and more meaningful.
So if I with you and I don't know you,
and I'm like, oh my god, I'm telling you thank
you for coming out to see me. I really appreciate
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you taking out your time. That's going to impact somebody
to the point they're going to be like, yo, he
didn't have to do that. He stood here, We hung out,
we last we were talking for about ten fifteen minutes,
and then like, hey, guys, could you excuse me a second.
I just want to say hi to a group of
people that just walked in. But you see, that's how
I do it, not does it like that, so I
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could understand again because people have to be cautious with
who they get their five minutes to. So it's very difficult,
but it's not easy. You gotta know how to balance it.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
So you know, you do you do it, and you know,
as far as you know, I've seen you perform and
I say hello, and you always always.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Have the time like how are you? Thank you for coming?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
You know, and that as a fan, I was very appreciated.
I appreciate any any little second that you could give me.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
I would appreciate that forever.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So you know, I can understand that as a fan,
you know. But at the same time, you got to
be very cautious. People are like, you know, I don't
know about some people.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
Like I'll give you scenarios. Some girls you'd be like, hey, hi,
how are you all of a sudden nigga Yo? Nigga
was all my ship?
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Oh oh yes, I.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Let me tell you. Don't confuse the niceness guys with
with the being cordial and respectable because true, true.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Oh my goodness, no, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
That's why a regular like yourself, right, if you try
to be nice to somebody that that probably happens to
you several times, right.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
He does.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It does because I'm always nice. Like for me, like
I'm always nice, I'm always bubbly. That's just the way
I am. Anybody who knows me, that's this is me.
But sometimes people just they just want to take and
take and I'm like, listen, let me just go over there,
let me just have a drink, let me just relax.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
I'm going back to you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
But it's just some people they're just unbelievable and they
assume things right, you know, And that is like I
had to give it to you guys, you know, as
an artist, as you know performance, because it's like it's hard.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
It's hard.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I mean not only are you dealing you know.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Dealing with different characters as with the fan base, but
in this business, dealing with all.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Sorts of characters positive negative, it's just you know, unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
You know, have you been criticized, I mean, both constructive
and negative in your career so far for you know,
the way your hair, you could be the silliest stupid this.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
I did Frankie Cutlass's show, and uh I posted it
up on my TikTok and I was wearing a white
outfit and someone commented, he damn, homeboy, that shirt looks
awfully tight. So I because I'm real fat, I'm sorry.
I'm trying to. I turned the you know, I turned
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the negative into a positive. He laughed, and he was like,
oh my god, dude, Yo, the way you responded was
completely opposite. He goes, you're a great guy, man, thank you,
And I made a fan out of somebody who potentially
could have been an adversary.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You gotta kill them with kindness.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
You gotta kill them with kindness, because it's just they
come out of nowhere with these things.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You know. Not everyone likes chocolate, not everybody likes vanilla.
You know, I don't know what flavor of the week
I am to some of these people. But you know, right,
you know I could only try. I could only you know,
let show people that, you know, I'm genuine. I'm a
real nice guy. And when I say it, I really
mean it. I'm a real nice guy. You meet me, yes,
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you are with you? You know what, It's all good,
any you know, it's all good. And there's even times
that I know certain people just like, hey, man, yo,
I get paid bi weekly. I wish I could go
to this show. Man, I'm a little tired on friends.
I'll say, yeah, don't worry. What's your name? All right?
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I got you plus one. You're on my guest list.
Don't worry. Come down, bro, have some fun. Don't worry
about you know. They're like, oh wow, wow, oh my god.
That goes a long way.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
It does, it does, It does for a lot of
a lot of us. You know who you know, we
love We love music. I think music. It moves us.
It helps us through a tough times in our lives,
and we become so appreciative of you guys because you
you connect with us. You you I don't know the
(20:08):
way you interpret those songs and and I don't know,
it's just it touches us. So for you to go
out of your way to make me feel good, I
mean that's.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Like wow, continue to do that, you know, as long
as I as long as I can. You know, I
think it's important.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
You know, to you you have this essence.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I mean that you you will like you know, and
it's something about you it I mean the way you sing,
the way you perform, the way you carry yourself, and
and the love that you give your your your fans.
I mean, people could feel that. I have to tell
you that, you know, just because it's transpires to us,
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and I'm putting myself there because I'm I'm a fan, it.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Transpires to us.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know, we get to know a little bit of
that semi because you show that caring and that that
hard work.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
You know, you hustle, let me tell you, hustle.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Definitely definitely work into the bone with this genre.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah, I could imagine.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Trying to get my thing done.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You know, you have to, you have to and and
you know, it's it's as far as I've learned in
this journey of my of you know, getting to know
you guys.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's hard. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
People are, like it was mentioned before. You know, some
people are set on their ways and it's not a
lot of new people that are busting their butt.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
They're working hard, trying to I mean, I'm gonna be
honest and.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I'm gonna say it that it's gonna come out of
my mouth. Some of the new stuff is not that great,
I agree, but not that great. And I understand where
they're coming from and why they feel the way they do.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
There's a lot of good.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Music out there, and there's a lot of good artists
and good singers that have talent.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Yep. You know. The big misconception is a lot of
the newer artists coming up is they think that they
do a song and it's up on iTunes and they
got twenty people on their page cheering them on that
they have a hit or they should be doing huge concerts.
(22:32):
Doesn't work like that, That's exactly that absolutely is not
how it works. And if I have to sit here
and explain to any of these artists how it works,
then you need to turn around, go home and start
thinking about something different to do, because if you don't
have a clue on how to make it happen or
(22:55):
or or trying to WithU just figuring things out properly,
then you have no place in this game.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And I'm and I always, you know, I always put
my two cents in it because you know, I'm the
fan battle. I feel like, listen, I need to see
you do your thing. I need to see you work
because I'm like, that's the type of like man, he's
doing his thing, he's just you know, like or her
she's doing her thing, Like let us see it let's
(23:27):
the fancy you do, you know, feel that energy, and
it's a shame.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It's a shame that, you know, people there.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Are people that need, that deserve an opportunity, that have
put in the work. That's their chops trying to make
it happen. You know that they're you know, they're just
you know, the tools are very limited for them to
get to where they need to get to. And it's
it's it's it's a it's very difficult. And I you know,
(23:56):
I I applaud them and I try to help as
much as I possible. You know, for those that I
deem are I hate saying that word worthy, but for
those that really deserve those opportunities, because you know, it
is hard, it.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Is you don't know what I imagine talk.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
To or you know, then you're going to go in circles. Man.
So you know, it's always good to lend the hand.
You never know, you never know.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
You never know.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
It is so true, guys, could be the hardest thing
and all of a sudden you need that hand.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, it's so true. It's so true.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I have to agree with you one hundred percent, you know,
and you know we also we are in our time
in music right now that you know, we're dealing with
a lot of mental health, a lot of personal struggles,
A lot of things are happening in our own private life.
And you know now with the music industry is dealing
(24:58):
with a lot of narcissistic Behaviavior And I've been one
of the persons that I've noticed a lot of like
weird things. And I'm a fan and if a fantacy
it there's something going on, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
It. You know, have you ever felt pushed out of
your comfort zone?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
You know, musically or otherwise just because an arcssistic person
is you know, they go for that thrill of the hunt.
You know, they exploited other people without guilt of shame,
you know. And the musicians, recording artists, some writers, they
feel that that pressure, you know, they feel like and
Dana balance me like is it you know, am I
(25:38):
losing my talent?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And you know my balancing emotions? I mean all these.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Sort of things. Have you ever felt pushed out of
your comfort zone? You know we personally, you know otherwise.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Honestly, if it gets to that point, I freeze up
and I'm like, no, I'm not doing it. If I'm
not feeling comfortable with some I'm like, yeah, this ain't happening.
I'm not I'm not gonna do this. I'm sorry, man,
yea even a show. And if I'm presented with an
opportunity and the few to this, that this, but I
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need you to this, that that and can you sing this?
And can you sing that? And I'm like, hold on,
wait a minute. I'm not feeling comfortable with what I'm doing,
then I'm not going to do it. That's me. That's
the bottom line. I'm not I have integrity, I have principle,
and I'm not gonna, you know, compromise any of the
above for for a dollar. And that's you know what
(26:35):
I'm saying. I'm not gonna make like I'll give you
for instance, I'm not going to make an enemy. MM
when I know certain people don't get along. I try
to avoid putting myself in a situation where a friend
of mine might feel a friended who's in the business.
I try to cope everyone's feelings and you know, I
(26:56):
get it. You know that's not for everybody. Sometimes not
reciprocated unfortunately, So you know, you go in with very
low expectations. So that way you don't. You know, you
don't come out hurt. You go in with low expectations
and no high expectations, then everything is good. If you're
going in there expecting people to do things in return
(27:19):
for you, or or to be a certain way with you, no,
it's not gonna happen. It's not You're not gonna happen.
You got to you gotta make you know. You do
what you do because you feel it's right for you
in your head, you know, and if you're doing it
for because you want to be a friend to somebody,
I applaud you. That's great. I'm that guy. But I
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know anything of anybody to do the same for me.
If they do, then I'm like, oh wow, oh wow,
that was that's specure. Thank you, thank you for me.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Mm hmm. It's so true.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I agree with you, and I think that you know,
with all this behavior, sometimes you know, you feel, especially
when you knew and you want, you want to make
it so bad and you want to be accepted so
bad that you without thinking just agree with things. And
this has happened. I mean it happened forever.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, it's forever.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
And and I mean it's been said in many documentary
of freestyle and music for R and B Rap.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
But you know, it's crazy, that's it. You got to
pick and choose what you think is gonna work and
what's not gonna You can't dump and be like yeah, yeah, yeah,
I'm gonna do it. Oh my god, yeah I want
to be a part of that. No, listen, man again,
you're you're you know, you got to pick and choose
your fight. Yeah, losing a lot more than you're going
(28:47):
to be gaining in that. So I'm like, nah, you
know me, I'm I'm straight up, I'm like, no, it's
not happening, don't even know.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I'm glad and look it has it has done. I mean,
we still love you. You still you know, you haven't
lost that essence that I mentioned before. You know that
people love about you, you know, And but it's hard.
It's hard. It's hard, really hard. I could imagine.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
It's like I always tell people, you know, like friends
of mine, when they go, yo, I got this new record,
I go, are you sure you want me to hear it?
I'm I'm a very this guy. Man. If you if
you're willing to accept what I say, and this is
all coming from constructive criticism. But don't ask me if
(29:38):
you know, if you're looking for a pet on the back.
I'm not that guy. I'm definitely not the guy. I'll
tell you straight up, Papa, I don't know. You go
back to the studio and I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
Tweak it a little bit because it's not.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
I think that they should agree appreciated of that, right.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Because how how do you call yourself a friend if
you're not going to tell your friend the truth, if
you're not going to be Yeah, that's that's being truth
was a part of being a friend, and.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
That happens, and that goes with your personal life. I'm
the type of person that I feel just like that
with my friends. I want them to be you know,
one hundred percent with me. Don't sugar call me. Don't
sugar call the situation. I mean, but hey, hey.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Don't sugar Okay that that.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't mean to say it like that, but you
know what I mean, like, we don't sugar cote the situation.
Just tell me straight up, tell me what is going on?
What you know, because I would I appreciate that. I
would appreciate that, and I think people should have been appreciated,
because that's what's a true friend.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
You know, that's a.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
True friend being honest, to be have to.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Be honest, you know, and you and especially somebody that has.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
The experience that's been around you know, come on, you
know they know what they're talking about, you know, but
you know it's it's just crazy. It's crazy. Do you
ever felt like you were pressured to change your music style?
Meaning like because you know that.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
The reason why I say this is because in the
past and even recently, there's been a lot of people
that decided to try something new, like salsa and stuff
like that. Have you ever been asked to change something
or you know, oh, we love Sammy again?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Wait?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Wait, wait, we love Sammy again? Oh no, okay, hold on,
hold on, let me see if I get him again. Okay,
so Sammy's back, Samy's back. Listen it.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
It happens. Listen that that's the or uh since he
and honesty about the you know, just a technology you know,
AI wants to take over.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
So I don't know, that's another that's another show. Know
what I want. I wanted to know. I know that
you feel that the pressure of you know, changing and
evolving but you know.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Like and the reason why I mentioned this is because
in freestyle, you know, people have transitioned to side side.
You know, you've seen the different genres or even use
a little hip hop or a little bit of power,
you know, a little house and in their sound. Do
you ever feel that the pressure or anybody ever asked
you to be like Sammy seeing some size sound, you know,
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some something a ballad.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That's been the one thing a lot of people have
asked me to do, is to do more Spanish songs
or soul side and uh, listen, it is all right.
It is not an easy thing, okay, if if if
you know, if you look back at interviews with Mark Anthony, Hell,
(33:12):
it's it's very challenging because of course the pronunciation, you
don't want to sound like it. They're from the block
and the brown. You know what I'm saying you exactly.
You want your people to accept and embrace your Spanish
singing style. And I certain artists that have transitioned from that,
(33:37):
like Louis Daymont who sang freestyle and now is full
pledged all on salsa. Yeah, is phenomenal. He is such
a phenomenal talent. And you know, it's like that, you know,
that transition. Now. I would like to, but it has
to be done properly. It has to be done right.
(33:58):
I would need, you know, a team that I could
you know, work with and you know I could lean
on in reference to getting it done right. I do
have a good friend, of course, who who inspires me
all the time. His name is Angel Ramirez and he
was a member of this UH pop group called the
Barrio Boys.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yes, oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Yes, sang with Selena and then multi platinum hits and
he wrote for Mark Anthony and you know, so he's
a good friend of mine for years. He's those guys
that have kept me in that point where I'm like, man,
maybe I should thinking about it, you know, but like
(34:46):
I said, it has to be done properly.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
It has to be done.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah, it has to be on the right time and
the right song and just the whole arrangement.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Right about that swing you know what I'm saying, it's
going to be. It's got to have a lot of
swing to it, you know. It's and I just haven't
found the right balance, so you know, but I'm working
on it. I'm working on Listen.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
And it's like you know it's gonna come on, you know,
on due time, on the right time is gonna come.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Because I know that.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
I noticed that a lot of free start artists have tried,
and it's a blessing. But for me, it hasn't catch
you know, it hasn't catched me yet, you know. And
and recently Lisa Lisa just uh you know, did a
little sasa from Hanso on you know she you know,
(35:46):
so it's as good, but you know, I could understand
the reason why it has to be the right time
and just.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
The way lyrically it has to be put together, you know.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
My god, know, one guy that did it was George
Lemon when he's it was that song has all all
the greatest elements in it, from production to writing and remake.
Yes it's a remake, but the man owned that song
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the way he sang it. He owns that damn and
he did it.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
To be right. It has to be right, you know.
And and so you know, I always wonder if you
ever you know.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
This is why I asked the question, because you know,
now it's like I said, I mentioned, I saw Lisa Lisa,
then even Julie Torres when I went to see her
last year She's sanging and some side she was she
even sitting in the stage.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
She's like, listen, this is me trying to dip my
toes in it. But you know, but it's hard, it's
really hard.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I've done freestyle in Spanish, but I definitely I want
to continue to do a little more. You know, I'm
gradually I might get there, but you know, for now,
that's that's what I can give for now is just
a little bit of freestyle in Spanish, so you know,
(37:13):
but I'll get there at some point, I will, well
you will.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I think that is is when the time is right,
it's it's right, you know. And I think the way
that the music is evolving, the world is changing, it's
not the same anymore. I think that, you know, once
you find your time, that's when it's like, you know what,
let me just the blah blah blah blah, look at.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
You know what I mean. But listen, so let's.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Talk about what's next, what's happening, what's you know, what's happening.
Speaker 4 (37:45):
Right now, I'm working on new music with my partner
Carlos Barrios, who oh my buddy. Definitely working on some
new stuff. And I have a mess load of shows
that I've been working on and that a month. So
I'm very excited. I'm super blessed to have these opportunities
(38:09):
that continue to fall on my left. I mean, believe me,
it's not easy. It's a lot of them. But again,
I have a great team I work with, and you know,
they're very you know, they're very helpful, and we're just
getting the job done. We're trying.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
I'm glad because that's another important thing is to surround us.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Over with positive people.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
You have to surround yourself with good people, hardworking people
that I'm in business and like you know, they're going
to keep it a hundred with you.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Oh yeah, listen, my right hand his name is Edgar,
and he is a friend. He wears several hats. He's
just that guy. I wouldn't know what I would be
doing without him.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
He's I'm so happy.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Oh you know I do. Other guy and big up
to you at Yeah. Look I got enough. I got
a good I got a good team between Carlos Various,
Benny Moves, Uh, Edgar Acuno. You know, I have a definite,
(39:17):
you know, solid team I work with. Salabtello, who's a
good and dear friend to me. And I work with
a lot of people, but you know, the most standout
people are pretty much those guys right there, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
And I'm grateful, amazing, amazing, and I'm so glad and
grateful that you know, things that are moving, and I
hope that it's not only that it continues, but we're
other artists too. You know, you guys got to work together.
Let's just you know, let's for each other, you know,
for the for everyone.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
All the listeners. Just follow him. You know, he has
social media, Facebook, Instagram.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
TikTok you know, just keep up today where all the
events are coming.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Support New York, Florida, Connecticut, anywhere where he lands. I
don't know he's aware.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Okay, I promise you, guys, I'll give you the five
minutes that you know that you deserve. You deserve more
than five, but I promise I'll give you that you
know for sure, and I'll just be one of my shows.
You'll you know, let's let's interact, let's and your.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Music is available on all digital streaming platforms, So I
don't want to hear it that you don't know you
can't find anything.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
You better stop. You know, he's on social media, like
I mentioned, just support, you know. Thank you so much, Sammy.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
I appreciate you so much, the little little little pain
of sugar that I could put in.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
You know, you got me. I'm you know, I'm very grateful, very.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Very grateful side to you. I am get me those.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
Five minutes and you, I mean so you know, you
give me those five minutes, and you inspire me to like,
you know what, let me continue doing what what I'm
doing and and you know, and that's that's just like
coming from the bottom of my heart, you know, so.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Thank you, Thank you, thank you. Just keep on going.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Many blessings and love for you to your family. Yatu
Savell I'll see you soon, yeah, Yatu, I'm gonna be
in the front singing, you know, my Whitney and my
Mariah better you know, sempre, blessings, press and pray. Thank
(41:40):
you so much, Sammy, Thank you, everybody. Just stay tuned.
We're gonna listen to a couple of Sammy's uh songs
and just vote so it could get on the top
ten and tap twenty.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Of the week. Listen.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Support, support, support, support, many blessings and we will be
right back.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
All right
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Now, let's listen to some great music and remember to
come back next week for some more real talk, real
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