March 21, 2025 • 62 mins
Host Evie sits down to speak to Artist and Performer Jae Mazor
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
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and new people. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This is Real Talk, Real Music here on the LDM
radio station. Hey ya MEI hinted, this is your girl, Evy.
Welcome to another episode of Real Talk, Real Music here
on the ld M Radio How you guys doing. I
hope you're doing great, and I hope that the summer
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is treating you well. But I'm very excited today, so
so so honor to have this special guest here. He's
wonderful recording artists, a great anger, an incredible song right.
I mean, he's everything, great human being. He's such a
great person, the remarkable, the amazing Jay Muso.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm doing okay? Thank you so much for sitting down
with me today.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, thank you for having me as well. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thank you. Listen. I know that you know, the music
industry is just it's it's it has its up and downs,
and I really wanted to talk to you about, you know,
backstabbing in the music industry, especially from your colleagues. I
think that it's happens. You try to help, and you
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try to be there and support your fellow artists, and
sometimes things just don't go right. But it's amazing how
people just lose that being trigged, the tregged of just
being a good human being, right right right? What have
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you felt or been through something like that recently or
since you started?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Uh, since I had started, especially within this genre, I
I've been through that. It happened early. It happened early,
but with my upbringing and everything, I said, I don't
want to get out of character, so let me just
go ahead and just part ways, you know. I said,
I'm just part ways now and not let it get,
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you know, into anything more crazy. But the person who
just kept trying to press buttons kept trying to press button,
They was doing a lot of background stuff that I
was just like, man, like, I did nothing to you.
All I just said is that I don't want to
work with you. No more crazy to you. I just
don't want to work with you no more. Because we
have two different outlooks when it comes to this business,
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you know, and they just started trying to bash my name,
assassinate my character. But I never did anything to like
got the character. I start going crazy whatever because I'm like, well,
everything you tell him, I know it is not true.
So I'm not gonna let it move me. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, I always said it. You know. I get to
sleep well at night.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I say that a lot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I just sleep well at night. Yeah, have no complaints
about anything.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah. So as it kept going, and they kept going
and kept going, I'm like, damn, Now I do like
stuff like you know, friend, not not in a friendly way,
but subliminately when I'm like, damn, I'm getting a lot
of free promotion, and I put a smiley you know.
And that used to piss them off even more because
they want me to get upset.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's what it is, just to get you out of character.
And then at the end of the day, you're the
one who looks kind of like, oh my god, he's
looking the way he's responding, look his attitude, how negative
he is, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And I ain't do none of that. I didn't feed
into none of that, and that that was killing him,
you know. And once that all blew over, and there
he was trying to say, Yo, don't work with him.
Jay's this and Jay's dad, and I'm just I'm like, okay, guys,
if y'all want to y'all know that everything has two sides.
So if y'all want to take his word, and y'all
listen to his word and instantly take it and say, okay, now,
I'm not messing with you, because what one person say
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I said, then y'all wasn't messing with me from the beginning.
And I'm okay with that, like I'm not gonna get
with you. I just know, like, okay, I'm glad this's
happening now. So I know that's one last person I
got worried about in my circle or that I got
to keep an eye on. But that was like that
one thing that happened to me. But it went off
all for like a long time. But on the outside
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looking in, I see what other artists are doing, the
other artists, and I'm just looking at this thing, like, man,
what the hell is wrong with you guys?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Like exactly, And the thing is that it is just scheming.
It's just how they scheme, and they approach you oh,
help me do this and that, and you out of
of good faith to help them, Like, listen, let's get this,
you know, let's let's start with a bangle. Let's get
freestyle out there, especially new freestyle that it's not getting
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the recognition that it should my opinion, and then for
somebody to be so maleag you know, mallage, like why
like you know, uh about that? You know, doesn't you know?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But it's true because the new new freestyle new era,
however everyone want to call it, they're not getting a
recognition they deserve. They want to just cut it off
with the people after after Stevie being the rest of them,
they're just like, yeah, that's it, we're done, let's close shop.
It's time to go. And it's like, oh, like, you
got other artists out here who's really cranking out a
new sound, and they'll still they don't have to we
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don't have to call it freestyle.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well we don't.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, we could call it dance and call it pop
or whatever, and we could just give them all that
recognition and that and that that realm of the world.
But we're saying freestyle because you know, this is a
genre that got potential to really be back to what
it used to be. You get, but the support is
not really there from the people who paved the way,
like you'll get does a select few let me not
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say from all of them, but they's selects you you'll
see that they'll do their part. But it seemed like
when I started looking in and maybe you could correct
me if I'm wrong, it seems it's like high school almost.
It's almost like it's a clique of people like.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That, and I have to agree with you. That's another
thing that there's a lot of clicks in the music
industry right now, and it's about who who's hot right now?
Who can what can you? What can that person do
for me? What can I get away with? Don't come
back to scheming like what we do so I could
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get to that place, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And that's crazy because they're doing that. But my mental
because of course I already know one hand washes the other.
But my end goal is like, okay, how is it
going to push this culture forward? It's not even about me.
So there's certain events that I look at and I
see there's like ten thousand people and they say, Jay,
I can't pay you because of this and this and this.
I say, that's fine, let me just get in front
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of these people. I'll take that L. I'll take that
L for now, but let me get in front of
these people to show them what I'm bringing to the table.
So by the time another of it come through, you
got no choice but to compensate me for what I'm bringing,
like because I'm not like a Mickey Mouse artist exactly,
pretty do this? You get what I mean. And for
people who know me, they know I come from the
R and B world, So I'm very soulful when I say,
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you know, I'm not just you know typically And when
I first got in the freestyle more of the main
comments I used to get from fans producers, they was like,
you actually know how to sing? And I was like, yo,
why I keep saying that?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
What? Yeah, there's people out there that have talent, like
why he.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Was saying this, they'll say freestyle and I was like,
they got some good music out there. He like, no, no,
like you can actually sing? Yeah, Like damn, man, listen.
I don't want to stop on nobody's told. I don't
want to look like like I'm not bad than anybody.
Everybody bring their stuff to the table. The best way
about to. But I say, just don't say that in
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front of them like they was like, no, but Jay,
it's true. Listen to this artist and this artist, this
person it was out since the eighties and stuff. They
don't sing like you can. And Jay, I feel you
and I'm like, damn, I said, so are you What
are you trying to say? He said, not a lot
of people in the freeze I could sing like that,
but you you have to soul. You got this, You
got that. I say, well, I say, I appreciate it,
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thank you, man. But I said, Man, we ain't gonna
bad mouth nobody. You know, everybody do their part.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He was like, no, exactly, you don't want to fall
into that. You know that click that's another clique of
people bad mouthing other people because all they do is
just talk about other people.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I give everybody the credit.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm like, yo, I ain't in no clicking or nothing.
I got several people who I rock with, and really
I rock with everybody. Like if one guy got beef
with this other guy, dang my beef, that's y'all.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Beef exactly exactly. I'm here to take nobody's side.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
There's no size because that other person never did nothing
to me at all. It's unfortunately what y'all got going on,
But he never did nothing to me. So I can't
just say, hey, I'm gonna just do it. Oh, that's
not loyalty, no, like not, even though it's just not
you want to say it's not loyal this is business.
And plus I know nothing about what the hell was
going on between that, like I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It is when you support your friend and you advise him,
and you know what, it's not even worse for you
get involved in none of that stuff when you have
to be focused in your career and being a person
right as being a loyal friend, and you know that's
loyalty for me, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Right right? I agree, I agree. So its just I
see a lot of that stuff going on. I'm just like, well,
I just make sure I don't get myself in that
predict man. Like even now when they say, oh Jay
is doing this show, he's doing that show. But that's
me self investing into myself. And that's certain on my artists, friends,
colleagues and people aside from music. I'm just really close
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with them, Like I tell them, hey, man, listen, I'm
putting this event together. How much you charge? And I
was like, oh, jaell do it for free. I'm like, no,
how much you charge? He was like, come on, Jay,
I'm like, how much do you charge? He usually John
to promote twelve hundred, you know, but Jake give me,
like give me like a thousand, give me eight hundred.
I said, all right, cool, sorry, but he said, but
Jay Man, you know I do it for free for you.
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I said, nah, I respect your craft exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know, sometimes it's not about the and the mulai,
you know what I mean. It's about that, the respect
that and then you have a they do have a talent.
It's incredible, right.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I don't even want it for free? I said, So, no,
I'm gonna put you on the fo. I'm gonna do this. Okay,
how much these dj okay, the DJ charge five six, seven,
eight hundred. Okay, I'm gonna go get reach out to
the dj G. He said, no, but it's you, Jay,
I do for free. I said, know how much do
you got? You got a family? That's me of you,
because you know what I mean. So that's just the
type of person I am, like, I don't want it
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for free, Like I want to pay you what you
ask for now. If it's something I feel like it's
too much, I negotiate and you tell me is it okay?
You know after? But I don't want it for free,
you know what I'm saying, Like for my birthday, you know,
Like just like there's some guys who's come out to
perform my birthday. Some of them say they'll do it
for free because they're like, yo, Jay, that's my gift
to you, you know, And I'm like, okay, that that's
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different because my birthday. But when it comes to events, man,
I actually like I'm not trying to like short change,
won't do anything like you know what I'm saying. But
I don't know. Everybody is cut different, man. I wasn't
raised like that. Like I'm the type I want to
see everybody eat, man, Like I want everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I want to meet out there. That's this. You know,
there's stuff out there to pursue, just a hustle, And
I have to admire that about you because you hustle.
I do hustle. You out there, you call, you try to,
you know, work things out, make friends, network, and a
lot of these artists they think that Oh, I'm going
to write a song and I'm gonna sing and whatever,
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and oh I'm supposed to you know, make it, you
know the top ten, you know, and people have to
like welcome me, you know, open arms. No, you gotta hustle, work,
you gotta have to put in the work. People. They're
just too lazy. And that's my opinion, right, they are
lazy that you have to hustle, have to hustle.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And I'm big I'm from Miami, so I'm a big
time hustler. That's like, I'm on it. You know, we're
doing this. I'm doing that. I'm on it. I'm trying
to say, Okay, how can we get make profit? We
do that, Okay, let's take it. We invest do this. Okay,
let me do a little so I could gain up
more money so I could do this. Like, man, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That business mind that's mine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, I got two different businesses that I have here,
Like I got my transport business and I got the
T shirt printing like you know I do. I got
two contracts with a couple with the police force and
the fire station out here in Georgia. Like, so I
got my hands a little bit of everything, so I
could be able to generate that to be able to
put it back into my music career. And so like
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I make I'm financially I'm a comfortable position, like I'm
good God God like because I made the right and
proper investments. I'm into cryptocurrency like I do a little
bit of everything. So people like crypto, Oh, those are gambles.
You're gonna lose money. I say, bro, I'm gonna lose money.
I say, I could show you some receipts. What I
had invested five hundred in the five and fifty grand is.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
One to walk away, get away, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And get greedy. Don't get greedy.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And that's that's another thing that there's a lot of
greediness in my stock industry. Because if you're greedy about
your own life money and try to double it, this
more greediness.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, and you're gonna lose opportunity too because you being
too down greedy. Just humble yourself, like like we're still
we're still on the way there. We're not freaking Michael Jackson, like,
we we're still doing the groundwork, you know what I'm saying.
Like when people try to like tell me certain stuff.
I just say, Okay, it didn't work for you because
you probably got green certain I said, look, I put
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five hundred and I turned to fifty thousand from cryptocurrency.
How did you do that? But I'm like, yeah, but
you said that. I'm gonna lose it though, right, Like,
I know what I'm doing and I do my homework
on crypto, so I know that's kind of other things.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
People don't do their homework, and I think that's that
And unfortunately that's happened in the freestyle community. Back in
the days, a lot of them didn't they didn't know
the business. They don't know about business, and it's unfortunate,
you know. But now I think that this new generation
of freestyle, they're more into you know, this is what's
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gonna work. I'm gonna, like you said, I do my homework.
I do you know, I gotta do this, I gotta
do that, try to find that information, right, you guys
are taking the time.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I definitely take the time, you know, just to the
point when I had started, when I got into a
freestyle world and I was talking to a few artists
and I said, hey, you got a p R and
he said, what the hell is a PR? I looked
at him, I said what He was like, Yeah, what's
a PR? O JA? I said, Performance rights organization? I
said do you have that? He said, I don't know
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what that is. I looked at him and I say,
hold on, so all your music that's out there, how
are ya getting y'all publishing? How y'all get He said,
what is it publishing? I said, whoa like I started tripping.
I started tripping. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait wait. I say, if your song's been out
this long, if you had your PR, your publishing and
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everything set up, I said, do you understand there's probably
thousands and hundreds of thousand dollars out there waiting for
you and you don't even know how do I do it?
I'm like, but you been doing this for like thirty years?
How do you not know this? Exactly like it had
me do say, oh, my old man, I'm too old
to learn new tricks. I say, all right, I say
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that just more for me because I said, like it was,
it really weirded me out and it was like, oh,
I never knew nothing about it that. I said, you
don't you need try to learn the business or people
don't mess you over like these labels like that. But like,
but these guys, really a lot of them will be surprised,
like they didn't know like I was speaking Spanish to
them when when they heard me say that, no speaking Chinese,
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you know what I'm saying, Like it really it took
me for spend to see that. A lot of them
in we so I don't even have a performance like organization.
They don't need.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's crazy because there's a lot of things that you
have to like educate yourself, and it's sad. It's sad
that they don't. Again, they don't do their wholework, and
you know they're causing harm to themselves, you know. And
then and that's when all these things starts. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Absolutely, yeah, funny out there, like even right now with
Spotify and all these things out here, all the songs
that Stevie B's done, Johnny O done, Cynthia done. Man.
Every time they hit a million streams, man, that's like
five to ten thousand dollars that that can go right
into their pocket just off streaming alone. That's not even
publishing about sink licensing. They say, what it's sink license.
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I'm like, that's the stuff that you get your song on, movies, commercial,
subway to shopping mall, Walmart. Like that's money too. Yeah,
one hundred ways to get this. You know, you just
gotta do start doing them necessary steps, the paperwork. Once
you get it situated, everything will just be on autopilot.
But you have to do the first step as far
as registering it, doing sound scan, doing doing the sound exchange.
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And they're like, what's sound exchange? I'm like, shoot, like,
I'm like, I need to teach you all class right now,
like what's going on.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's true, It's true. There's a lot of things that
a lot of people don't know. They do not know,
you know. I think that the Internet has evolved in
a way that is just they feel that. Okay, so
I'm in the internet. People are just you know, right
there my songs and stuff like that. I'm good, I'm good.
You know, I made it. Know, you have so many
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little components.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
There's small components that I.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Do have to you know, And it is right there.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's type it what you're trying to know. It's going
to give you information. It's not hidden. Yeah, there's something
called Google literally just listen.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I always said Google is my best friend. Don't message.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
YouTube is my best friend, Google YouTube. You get what
I'm saying, Like it's so true, so true. Yeah, but
it really it really like kind of shocked me to
see that. And that's probably thousands of dollars with your
name on it, and you're not collecting it. You know, decades,
you know, so you're not collecting because.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But you're instead of educating yourself. I feel that you
are more into the little you know, Shenanigans of the Internet,
Shenanigans of life. Educate yourself. Who cares what's going on
in the Internet, Who cares what's going on in Instagram? TikTok?
You know, you're wasting time marinating and trying to do
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this and trying to do that, trying to listen. Educate yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Agree, And that's why I really wish to a lot
of artists do, because there's artists out there, man, they're
really talented from outside of freestyle and and freestyle be
looking and said, I'm like, damn, man, you got it.
You know what I'm saying, But you probably don't even
got all of you pat your stuff together where you
can really eat and really make.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Money exactly, you know, and and it's it's it's sad.
You know a lot of people to you know, they
don't want to hustle. They don't want to hustle.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
They got to they wanted to be handy.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know, they won't you want everything to come, you know,
they want to get here. You know, you have to
work hard. I'm still work hard.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm going through the book. I'm sitting there, I get
a highlighter, I'm doing this. I'm like, okay, so let
me get this contract. Okay, but you know, I'm reading,
I'm researching, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
On my exactly yes. And another thing. And I say
this all the time. Not everybody is your friend. Not
every's unfortunate, but not everybody is your friend. I don't
care if hey, how are you blah blah blah, okay,
but they are not your friend. So you have to
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again educate yourself learned. Just try to imagine, imagine what
is it your goals are going to be, and then
focus on that and stay on that, you know, And
because unfortunate people just just gonna take advantage of you.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yep, they try. And what what I like is that
when they try to take advantage of me. They'll do
it and make it seem like I like to smile
when they try to take advantage, I smile.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know what kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, Okay, okay, okay, after that fuck out, Like I said, you,
I don't know what I'm doing and what you just
told me. You're literally trying to finesse me. But I'm
a smile, so you could think that I'm dumb and
I don't know what you're talking about. But I know
what you're talking about. But the fact that I hear
that you're trying to finesse me. Once you finish our conversation, Bro,
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I'm not calling you no more, I'm not hitting you up. Bro,
don't expect me to share your stuff because you really
think that you're talking to a dummy, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They actually and they actually go and get this and
write and like if somebody interviews them or anything for
a magazine anything of that sort, and they actually live
in a fantasy and they will talk harmful things about you. Right,
I don't me who who did it? It was me?
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Oh we lost you, we lost you, we lost you. Okay,
then you know it's like they write harmful things about you.
They say things and in magazines anywhere, you know, and
and they have the audacity to do like that. You know,
it's crazy. It's really really crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It's unfortunate, you know, it is. Unfortunately, it is unfortunately.
Like but like when they start, when they start doing things,
I'm like, I don't really see how that like, you know,
when I see people do that now, I'm like, yo,
how does that help your career? Like I'm curious, Yeah,
how does it help your career? And does it put
money in your pocket by bashing the next person?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I'm not doing that. I don't want to do that.
That's the waste of time. That's a waste of energy
that I could be doing something completely different, way more productive,
you know, where I could push my career forward. Or
I could really be hanging out with my daughter and
were going to create more maories.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You see me and have a good time and enjoy life,
because that's what we have to do right now. We
have to enjoy life, right it's too short. You ever
feel pressure to change your style just because you started
with R and B and you went over to freestyle,
have you been pressured to change, either back to R
and B or just change it, you know, your style
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or the way you sing, just to stay relevant because
there's a lot of things, you know, new sounds, new things,
So I can't even understand the new songs now.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Right as far as most sound like, I was never
pressured to change my sound. It seemed like whatever genre
of falling into and I create something, it's like everyone
just grasp to my voice, you know, because R and B,
I'm more of my soulfos, laid back whichever. And then
when I got into freestyle, I still got that soulfulness,
but I put a little more power to how I sing,
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you know, and everyone loves it. Like at first I
was pressured. I almost felt like I was pressure to
go back to R and B because I got to
a point where I'm like, yo, I think I'm gonna
just slow down on freestyle because I was. I used
to get at random inboxes and it was from people
who don't show their face, of course, and they to say, hey,
you're never going to progress on freestyle because you're black,
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And I was like what, And then I'm reading and
they say, yeah, you have an amazing voice, but you're
never gonna be Stevie, You're never gonna be I said, well,
I'm not trying to be Stevie Bee and that's number one, exactly.
Number two. I'm not trying to be john Yo. I'm
not trying to be Johnny Yo. I'm not trying to
be Synthy. I'm not trying to be Brenda K Starr.
I'm being Jay Mazoor. I say, but the fact that
you're saying is cuse of the color of my skin.
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I'm like, man, this is like crazy because I'm like, well,
there's other artists in there, Like I say, look at
K seven or is that a problem? Oh he's Puerto Rican.
I say yeah, but it doesn't matter, you know. Like that,
it kind of bucked me out and I was just like, so,
I'm putting in all this work, spending all this money's
creating videos, creating content to give you guys quardi music,
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and like this is how y'all looking at me? So
I was like, I never had this when I was
in a freestyle world, you know, I mean, not freestyle
art world. I said, when I was in the R
and B world, I never had this type of energy
being set to me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So I think it's just it goes back to the clicks.
It goes back to people not ready, you know, like
you have to move on. You have to move on.
And and you know they always freestyle is always a
Puerto Rican thing, Italian thing, Italian Okay, all right, they
just like it. Okay, move on. There's other people. There's
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an independent artist. His name is Black Latin. He's my boy.
He is so sweet, and he started singing freestyle because
his mom used to play freestyle when he was little.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So that's how I even know about freestyles because of that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And he told me, because I'm like, ben up there,
hold on, Black Latin, that you saying freestoun and he
was like, yes, I do. And I'm I just I
fell in love with it. And that's That's another thing,
is that you have to fall in love with your craft,
with what you love about music, right you know, so
look at that, but you just finishing what you were
(26:18):
saying that you you started listening to a freestyle right.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Right, because because growing up, I ain't know what it's
called freest music got all we called it party music
was because in Miami, the DJ last on Power ninety
six FM radio. He used to play that, and they
I used to hear say like, oh the party station,
party station, party station. So I remember hearing Johnny Yo.
(26:42):
I remember all that, And because my main four people
who I remember that I knew, like, okay, when you
hear that song, I think it's the main four or
five people. It was Stevie b, it was Johnny O, Cynthia,
Debbie dead Uh and Georgia Laman like those was like
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the main people who face I used to see a lot,
like around Miami when it was having events stuff. But
when but my main time of hearing it and my
mom used to play it, and it was all because
like when we used to go to school all the time,
or we used to go to the flea market to
shop for school clothes, like in elementary school of middle school.
Like I always used to hear it inside the flea market.
You're here in the dream. I love you hear all that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You know, you know I'm gonna be honest. I'll be
like this, hey, and you don't got a little catchings.
I you know, I can't relate.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, So it's just like hearing all that and I'm
like and when I end up meeting these people in person,
I'm like, damn, Like I wouldn't say I grew up
to you, but I remember hearing this song all the
damn time, you know. So I'm like, it's so it's
good just to be amongst them. And when I see
that people like George and Moms he sees me in
person and he's singing my song word for word, and
I'll be like, oh shit, you know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
How does that feel? Because I think that I'll be like,
I don't know, I'll go crazy. I'm like, d you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
But I've been doing the music thing for so long
it's like I ain't go crazy. But in my mind,
I like when he did it, I was like, hey man,
thanks man, but fine. I was like, oh sh like
I said, okay, keep it together, Jay. You know. I
was like, all right, cool, like because I know celebrities
sometimes when you do the most, they'll kind of be like,
hey man, take it easy, you know. And I was like,
I wasn't gonna sit there and make a you know.
(28:24):
But when he said that, You're like, man, Jay, man,
how did you come up with that? And I'm like, man, shit.
Me and my brother was in the bed. Me and
my brother was in a bed chilling and I heard it.
You know, I got the email. I'm writing to it.
Me and him started going off each other and then
this was just came to life. He was like, bro,
I love this song. He said, well, I be singing it, man,
be playing. I'm like, man, thank you, man, Like that's
(28:45):
all I can say, thank you man. Just I'm gonna
keep cranking them out. You know, because there was one
person say, Jay, you you make it too many bangers.
You need to do some feelers where it's not nothing
that you know it's gonna hit hard. I said, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
How to do that exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'm creating to make it. And then the next one,
I want that to be a hit, and I want
that to be.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
And it's hot day. Not just because I'm sitting here
talking to you, but I saw you a couple of
weeks ago, and listen, you are amazing. You are off
the hook like you're you were singing and you were
so energetic and you were connecting with the audience, and
I'm like, you know, I was recording you. I was like,
oh my god, I like this, and I like your energy,
(29:31):
like your energy a lot. You have this essence that
connect with people, and you're very humble at the same time,
because even when I noticed people would approach you, even
me when I approach, hey, how were you? You know,
you didn't lose that, you know, regardless of you know,
I'm tired, I just sang, you know, you know, but
(29:53):
you still had that humbleness and I have to give
it to you, you know, And and you don't you
don't see that. You don't see that from a lot
of people, right, So I definitely thank you for you know,
staying you.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Thank you like I'm and and that means a lot
because I just I don't know how to not be
humble because at the end of the day, like aside
from it being a father being motivated by my daughter,
I'm like, man, you guys motivate me, you know what
I'm saying. So doing this music, people will be like, oh, man,
(30:28):
I let another artist here. He's like, oh the base
was too low and he was this. I said, hey, hey,
I ain't make this for you. I made it for them.
Like you think they're paying a tod to the base
being too low. They're trying to they're trying to catch
a vibe. They had a long week, and I want
to give them something that they can be able to
relate to, so they'll be like, oh my god, this
is my favorite song. I said. I make music for
the people. I'm not making it for my fellow artists.
(30:51):
But a lot of them they'll try to critique and say,
so I'm like, man, listen, I don't care. Oh you
should have put raised this up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And I'm like, now that you mentioned critique, deal with criticism,
you know, and even if it's constructive criticism, how you
deal with that? Even negative?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Also negative? I deal with the very well.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
They do come out and say the stupidest thing, and
I'm calling them stupid. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, they'll say some off the wall stuff, but coming
from from the hip hop R and B, I done
heard everything because at first, of course I didn't I
sing now, I didn't sing like that before, Like I
had to perfect my craft, so I used to hear everything.
I even had the house too. At the time. I
was way bigger. If y'all go on YouTube and search
up like old videos of me, oh man, I was huge.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That's the past.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
We don't talk about the right right, But it's just
going back to like the things they say criticism worse.
So like if people telling me that now like constructive criticism,
I take very well because like I look at this
iron sharpening iron, you know what I'm saying. So I
don't take it personally like man, Jaye this, I'm like, Okay,
(32:00):
I said, well, for future stuff, I'll look into that.
But mother if a mother. But somebody ended up saying, yo, man,
your black asses. Okay, that's not constructive criticism.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That is another thing again, not to go back to
where we were talking about again. That's you know, oh
he's back, Oh when he's doing this, Oh, while he's
in this genre and was this you know what I.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Mean, I didn't know there was a color.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The negativity that is it has to stop.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I didn't know there was a color. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Like music, I didn't know music had color.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Right, music is music, you get what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So that's why the Shenanigans behind.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Us, And that's the reason that they're gonna be right
there in another ten twenty thirty years and they never
going to progress.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
No, and really people don't want to work with them
no more.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Right, That's why I say, I'll see you. I'll see
you at the top. Yeah that I'll be looking below though,
like I'm gonna see you, but I'll be looking down
below because I know you're not gonna be up here
with me, not with this mindset that you have. You know,
hit you anywhere, man, And that's why. And it goes
back like I'm super humble because man, the fans, without
the fans, who are we as artists, who are we
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making the music for. I'm making it for my fellow artist,
so he can just tell me, yo, that sound amazing,
but he's not gonna buy it because even though it's
like it's like a friendly competition because technically, yo, you're
my boy. I rock with you. You're my homie for
life man, and we can eat together everything, But I
don't expect you to buy my music the moment come
(33:34):
out because you're an artist who damn so exactly you know.
So it's like but it's friendly competition of course, not
know nothing personal, but it's like, man, I don't expect
you to do it. I said, Man, I do this
for the fans, you know what I'm saying. So that's
why I'm like, without the fans who in mind. So
I'm gonna sit here and be stuck up with the fans.
Oh my god's Jay, and I'm gonna say no for me.
You pensant, like you think I'm gonna do something.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Oh my god, it's crazy. It's crazy. And I know
that we're living in a world that is just you know,
you gotta be careful, you have to be. But at
the same time, you know you can't lose who you are,
you know, because then like you mentioned, you know, you
without the fans, when you know you guys are one,
(34:21):
you know, you know literally nothing.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So it's like who am I really? Like? Like that's
why even like with my birthday coming up in Chicago,
we're doing the September seventh, Like I put a package together.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
When is your birth September seventh?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
September seven is when I'm doing a party.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, when is the burden August? Oh you're leo, Jay,
you better stop. I'm a virgo. Oh virgo in the house.
People don't don't mess with us. Don't know. That's why
you're it's a hard worker. You're a hustler. Listen now,
(35:03):
I don't understand you more right, right, right, That's what
we are right, we go gets some go get we
sure are.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah. That's why I like, I always tell people where
is your birthday? I say, look up, Michael Jackson, that's
his birthday. It was like, I said, I share a birthday.
I share, I share a birthday with this man, like
I'm proud of it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Hello. That's a sign. That's a sign.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And I hold onto that and I bragged it be
like okay, Jay, I'm like, no, man, I share a
birth with Michael Jackson. He's one of my like my
top tier people who I look up to.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You you know, who can say, listen, I share my
birthday with one of.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
The greatest, with the king of pop.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You know, that's a sign. That's a sign.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's why, man, I'm just so humble with it. Man,
That's why I'm just so humble with it. And I
keep my head down, create new music and I give
it to the people, and I be I try to
help other artists on the way and try to give
him pointers and educate them. Some of them take it,
some of them don't, you know. But I'm like, all right,
it's cool, and I'm gonna just keep doing what I'm doing.
So eventually, when you see where I am in my
(36:09):
position right hopefully you know it'll rub off for me
to be Okay, Jay, what was I missing? Just do
this and do this and stay consistent. Content. You know,
you got to get these people content because that's especially
in this world right now, everything is social media.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Man, thing is social media with the radios radio now
is turning into dot com, you know, LGM radio, Freestyle,
Fusion radio. I mean everything is on the internet every
right now. Everything app for my people's over a Classic
(36:45):
Full seven, DJ Flashy he got his own app. He
just started. He's already like it's crazy. So it's all
about internet.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah. You gotta got to roll with the changes. That's
the thing. That's the world changes. You gotta people up
with it. Don't be left behind, you know, even though
it might say this is too this is too technical, Oh,
but give yourself time to learn it. Learn it because
if you get behind, like you're gonna be wondering why
stuff not moving and you kind of stand stagnant with
certain stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Exactly and be smart about it, right And I think
the word today was do your homework and educate yourself absolutely.
You know, watch out for the backstabbers. Watch out all
that negativity, just throw it out. Just do we move
it completely out of your life.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Right, right, right?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And I think that things will fall into place.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Agree.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And I am very very humble, and I'm proud, and
I am so happy that I got to meet you
hang out with you a little bit, just to you know,
get the vibe because a lot of people think, oh,
you know, they're just singers. They no, Actually they're good
people people. Yes, they're they're regular people, were hustling, working,
(37:59):
we gotta pay bill. It's just that they have a
talent and we just got to support it, right. And
And I am very humble, and I am proud that
I got to meet you and talk to you. It
was you know, it's amazing. It's an amazing experience.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know, I'm glad and that that does my heart good,
Like you have no idea, like and that's what I
want people to leave with, Like when we have these events,
I want people like that's the kind of reaction I
look for. So when they tell me like, hey, j
I have an amazing time. It was crazy energy, it was great,
I'm like, Okay, that's that's that's my that's my form
of paint too.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well that's my former painent because I wanted to be
something memorable, you know what I mean. So that's why
even like August seventeenth, we have no Orlando and then
September seventh in Chicago, like I'm putting like a VIP
experience together, so these people could be able to go
back and have a bragging rights on what I'm gonna do,
like I'm doing something cargo, you know, because I want
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to give them bragg and rights, you know, get them going.
But I just I just just try to be the
best version of me that I can.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You know, that's all you could do. That's all you
could do, and just you know, keep going forward, keep
going forward, keep you know, feeding us, giving us. And
you let me tell you not because I'm interviewing you
and we're sitting chatting right now, but you have been.
You have amazing songs. You have amazing songs. I mean,
(39:30):
you know, I'm not trying to like you know, you
got some good songs.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Me, you see me, I'm not I'm not, you know,
far from arrogant. I'm far from arrogant.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
But this is good. You know that a lot of people,
you know, you could you could be a great singer.
But if the song is but you have good songs
and then you have the voice for it, like it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I could really like I could, I could safely say,
I know, like in freestyle and the support of the
people from all over freestyle from all over the US
or the world period, if they get behind me, I
will be the guy when it comes to this new
era of freestyle.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I know, I can it just a yeah, the sound,
the way, the whole your your arrangement, the music arrangement,
even though it's still that freestyle sound, but still you
try to incorporate little things you know, you know, but
that's for me, that's what I track. I'm like, man,
(40:36):
I like this sound. You know, it's a little it's
the same thing, not the same thing, but like that
little freestyle but it got a little sould, a little
that little.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, that little yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Like you know, I'd be like, man, I like this
the whole the way, the whole music arrangement, everything, and
it's like, man, I was really like, I like it.
I really like it, and I understand I there's unfortunately
there's people out there that really you know, I'm saying,
I'm say I'm playing. They really they're not that great, right,
(41:12):
But there's some good singers out there, good sing that
savors iudea that.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I'm like, damn, he better than me. I could say,
I'll say it.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Humbly and you could sing hello, lie and lie firse.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I can sing live definitely, like I can sing without
no music. But they'd be singers out there. I'm like, damn, man,
that boy could blow like like like it's I don't
want to name drop, but when I like, for example,
the first person to say that do Julio meno. That
man voice is ridiculous and I know it's ridiculous to
the point I'm like, bro, you sing way better than me.
(41:50):
Said I'll come on, young bull. I'm like, na, holy boy.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
The one he and he's smart and he just but
he's a good singer. This is ridiculous and I'm live
and like, you know, no arrangement and you know what I.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Mean, remember that, yeah, strong man not tell him all
the time. I'm like, man, don't let it go to waste.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Man, Listen. You know when you get goose Bums, You're
like it's like they could sing they Oh my god,
I'm telling you. I'm like I could say that from
you know, about you. I could say that about Sammy, Yes,
Sammy's sam from Three to the Max. Those are those
(42:36):
are my boys. I can say Jesse, Jesse could sink
his ass off Rometo and you know, Anthony, I know,
I'm live too. I'm like, you can't forget man, and
you know, like the New Crystal, you know, like new
Free Style. I mean they could sing. I'm just like, okay, girl, yeah,
(43:01):
and it's amazing. It's just it gets me excited. I'm like, oh,
because you guys have such talent and thank you for
sharing it with us, because.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I'm you know, because again we thought you guys were
really who we're doing it for. You know. So yeah,
this this, this is not gonna stop. This train going
to keep going.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And listen, just keep going. There's gonna be bumps in
the roles, you know, what, the hell with it? Just
go over them, go over them. Just never doubt yourself
and you keep going. And there's gonna be good people
and bad people and a lot of narcissistic behavior. It's
(43:44):
ridiculous and a lot of negativity. But you know what,
as soon as you just stay in your own world
and focus on what your goal, and absolutely you could
accomplish anything. Absolutely, you could accomplish anything. So you know,
I'm so happy. Thank you so much for sitting down
with me chatting. You know, it's been a pleasure. So
(44:08):
when you come up and to New York, listen, call
your girl right here. We're gonna go hang out.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
So everybody out there listen, just you know, support. All
these events are out there, go see them. They're amazing cigarets. Listen,
especially Jay, he's coming up with some new stuff coming out,
you know, the new events happening soon. Listen. Just support.
He's a Yeah. You have Instagram, you he has TikTok Facebook.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
You could google, Google Jamas or everything.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Everything because I google jams or yes I did I
google you.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah you've seen it all right, like so so google
it or James Music dot com. That's my official website,
James on Music dot com. And you find everything you
looking for. Photos, biography, pictures.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Good pictures too. They're not like Ricklydnkley well from the projects,
you know, like this, Hey now he got good pictures,
all right?
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Not just no, I'll put everything a one.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
It's a vital thing. It's a vital thing. We do that,
We do that, but thank you so much everybody. Just support, support, support,
So we're gonna you're gonna listen to a couple of
his songs next and just support him, you know. Thank
you so much. Day welcome, love and blessings always.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Now let's listen to some great music and remember to
come back next week for some more real talk, real
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Speaker 2 (00:08):
We've got a great show coming here way today.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I've learned that music is what feelings sounds like. Follow
me on my journey to discover new music, new styles,
and new people. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
This is Real Talk, Real Music here on the LDM
radio station. Hey ya MEI hinted, this is your girl, Evy.
Welcome to another episode of Real Talk, Real Music here
on the ld M Radio How you guys doing. I
hope you're doing great, and I hope that the summer
(00:47):
is treating you well. But I'm very excited today, so
so so honor to have this special guest here. He's
wonderful recording artists, a great anger, an incredible song right.
I mean, he's everything, great human being. He's such a
great person, the remarkable, the amazing Jay Muso.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm doing okay? Thank you so much for sitting down
with me today.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Well, thank you for having me as well. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thank you. Listen. I know that you know, the music
industry is just it's it's it has its up and downs,
and I really wanted to talk to you about, you know,
backstabbing in the music industry, especially from your colleagues. I
think that it's happens. You try to help, and you
(01:48):
try to be there and support your fellow artists, and
sometimes things just don't go right. But it's amazing how
people just lose that being trigged, the tregged of just
being a good human being, right right right? What have
(02:10):
you felt or been through something like that recently or
since you started?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Uh, since I had started, especially within this genre, I
I've been through that. It happened early. It happened early,
but with my upbringing and everything, I said, I don't
want to get out of character, so let me just
go ahead and just part ways, you know. I said,
I'm just part ways now and not let it get,
(02:38):
you know, into anything more crazy. But the person who
just kept trying to press buttons kept trying to press button,
They was doing a lot of background stuff that I
was just like, man, like, I did nothing to you.
All I just said is that I don't want to
work with you. No more crazy to you. I just
don't want to work with you no more. Because we
have two different outlooks when it comes to this business,
(02:59):
you know, and they just started trying to bash my name,
assassinate my character. But I never did anything to like
got the character. I start going crazy whatever because I'm like, well,
everything you tell him, I know it is not true.
So I'm not gonna let it move me. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, I always said it. You know. I get to
sleep well at night.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I say that a lot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I just sleep well at night. Yeah, have no complaints
about anything.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah. So as it kept going, and they kept going
and kept going, I'm like, damn, Now I do like
stuff like you know, friend, not not in a friendly way,
but subliminately when I'm like, damn, I'm getting a lot
of free promotion, and I put a smiley you know.
And that used to piss them off even more because
they want me to get upset.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's what it is, just to get you out of character.
And then at the end of the day, you're the
one who looks kind of like, oh my god, he's
looking the way he's responding, look his attitude, how negative
he is, you know.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And I ain't do none of that. I didn't feed
into none of that, and that that was killing him,
you know. And once that all blew over, and there
he was trying to say, Yo, don't work with him.
Jay's this and Jay's dad, and I'm just I'm like, okay, guys,
if y'all want to y'all know that everything has two sides.
So if y'all want to take his word, and y'all
listen to his word and instantly take it and say, okay, now,
I'm not messing with you, because what one person say
(04:21):
I said, then y'all wasn't messing with me from the beginning.
And I'm okay with that, like I'm not gonna get
with you. I just know, like, okay, I'm glad this's
happening now. So I know that's one last person I
got worried about in my circle or that I got
to keep an eye on. But that was like that
one thing that happened to me. But it went off
all for like a long time. But on the outside
(04:42):
looking in, I see what other artists are doing, the
other artists, and I'm just looking at this thing, like, man,
what the hell is wrong with you guys?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Like exactly, And the thing is that it is just scheming.
It's just how they scheme, and they approach you oh,
help me do this and that, and you out of
of good faith to help them, Like, listen, let's get this,
you know, let's let's start with a bangle. Let's get
freestyle out there, especially new freestyle that it's not getting
(05:11):
the recognition that it should my opinion, and then for
somebody to be so maleag you know, mallage, like why
like you know, uh about that? You know, doesn't you know?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But it's true because the new new freestyle new era,
however everyone want to call it, they're not getting a
recognition they deserve. They want to just cut it off
with the people after after Stevie being the rest of them,
they're just like, yeah, that's it, we're done, let's close shop.
It's time to go. And it's like, oh, like, you
got other artists out here who's really cranking out a
new sound, and they'll still they don't have to we
(05:49):
don't have to call it freestyle.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well we don't.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, we could call it dance and call it pop
or whatever, and we could just give them all that
recognition and that and that that realm of the world.
But we're saying freestyle because you know, this is a
genre that got potential to really be back to what
it used to be. You get, but the support is
not really there from the people who paved the way,
like you'll get does a select few let me not
(06:14):
say from all of them, but they's selects you you'll
see that they'll do their part. But it seemed like
when I started looking in and maybe you could correct
me if I'm wrong, it seems it's like high school almost.
It's almost like it's a clique of people like.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
That, and I have to agree with you. That's another
thing that there's a lot of clicks in the music
industry right now, and it's about who who's hot right now?
Who can what can you? What can that person do
for me? What can I get away with? Don't come
back to scheming like what we do so I could
(06:50):
get to that place, you know.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And that's crazy because they're doing that. But my mental
because of course I already know one hand washes the other.
But my end goal is like, okay, how is it
going to push this culture forward? It's not even about me.
So there's certain events that I look at and I
see there's like ten thousand people and they say, Jay,
I can't pay you because of this and this and this.
I say, that's fine, let me just get in front
(07:13):
of these people. I'll take that L. I'll take that
L for now, but let me get in front of
these people to show them what I'm bringing to the table.
So by the time another of it come through, you
got no choice but to compensate me for what I'm bringing,
like because I'm not like a Mickey Mouse artist exactly,
pretty do this? You get what I mean. And for
people who know me, they know I come from the
R and B world, So I'm very soulful when I say,
(07:36):
you know, I'm not just you know typically And when
I first got in the freestyle more of the main
comments I used to get from fans producers, they was like,
you actually know how to sing? And I was like, yo,
why I keep saying that?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
What? Yeah, there's people out there that have talent, like
why he.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Was saying this, they'll say freestyle and I was like,
they got some good music out there. He like, no, no,
like you can actually sing? Yeah, Like damn, man, listen.
I don't want to stop on nobody's told. I don't
want to look like like I'm not bad than anybody.
Everybody bring their stuff to the table. The best way
about to. But I say, just don't say that in
(08:17):
front of them like they was like, no, but Jay,
it's true. Listen to this artist and this artist, this
person it was out since the eighties and stuff. They
don't sing like you can. And Jay, I feel you
and I'm like, damn, I said, so are you What
are you trying to say? He said, not a lot
of people in the freeze I could sing like that,
but you you have to soul. You got this, You
got that. I say, well, I say, I appreciate it,
(08:38):
thank you, man. But I said, Man, we ain't gonna
bad mouth nobody. You know, everybody do their part.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
He was like, no, exactly, you don't want to fall
into that. You know that click that's another clique of
people bad mouthing other people because all they do is
just talk about other people.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
I give everybody the credit.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I'm like, yo, I ain't in no clicking or nothing.
I got several people who I rock with, and really
I rock with everybody. Like if one guy got beef
with this other guy, dang my beef, that's y'all.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Beef exactly exactly. I'm here to take nobody's side.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
There's no size because that other person never did nothing
to me at all. It's unfortunately what y'all got going on,
But he never did nothing to me. So I can't
just say, hey, I'm gonna just do it. Oh, that's
not loyalty, no, like not, even though it's just not
you want to say it's not loyal this is business.
And plus I know nothing about what the hell was
going on between that, like I probably wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It is when you support your friend and you advise him,
and you know what, it's not even worse for you
get involved in none of that stuff when you have
to be focused in your career and being a person
right as being a loyal friend, and you know that's
loyalty for me, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Right right? I agree, I agree. So its just I
see a lot of that stuff going on. I'm just like, well,
I just make sure I don't get myself in that
predict man. Like even now when they say, oh Jay
is doing this show, he's doing that show. But that's
me self investing into myself. And that's certain on my artists, friends,
colleagues and people aside from music. I'm just really close
(10:12):
with them, Like I tell them, hey, man, listen, I'm
putting this event together. How much you charge? And I
was like, oh, jaell do it for free. I'm like, no,
how much you charge? He was like, come on, Jay,
I'm like, how much do you charge? He usually John
to promote twelve hundred, you know, but Jake give me,
like give me like a thousand, give me eight hundred.
I said, all right, cool, sorry, but he said, but
Jay Man, you know I do it for free for you.
(10:33):
I said, nah, I respect your craft exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know, sometimes it's not about the and the mulai,
you know what I mean. It's about that, the respect
that and then you have a they do have a talent.
It's incredible, right.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
I don't even want it for free? I said, So, no,
I'm gonna put you on the fo. I'm gonna do this. Okay,
how much these dj okay, the DJ charge five six, seven,
eight hundred. Okay, I'm gonna go get reach out to
the dj G. He said, no, but it's you, Jay,
I do for free. I said, know how much do
you got? You got a family? That's me of you,
because you know what I mean. So that's just the
type of person I am, like, I don't want it
(11:10):
for free, Like I want to pay you what you
ask for now. If it's something I feel like it's
too much, I negotiate and you tell me is it okay?
You know after? But I don't want it for free,
you know what I'm saying, Like for my birthday, you know,
Like just like there's some guys who's come out to
perform my birthday. Some of them say they'll do it
for free because they're like, yo, Jay, that's my gift
to you, you know, And I'm like, okay, that that's
(11:32):
different because my birthday. But when it comes to events, man,
I actually like I'm not trying to like short change,
won't do anything like you know what I'm saying. But
I don't know. Everybody is cut different, man. I wasn't
raised like that. Like I'm the type I want to
see everybody eat, man, Like I want everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I want to meet out there. That's this. You know,
there's stuff out there to pursue, just a hustle, And
I have to admire that about you because you hustle.
I do hustle. You out there, you call, you try to,
you know, work things out, make friends, network, and a
lot of these artists they think that Oh, I'm going
to write a song and I'm gonna sing and whatever,
(12:13):
and oh I'm supposed to you know, make it, you
know the top ten, you know, and people have to
like welcome me, you know, open arms. No, you gotta hustle, work,
you gotta have to put in the work. People. They're
just too lazy. And that's my opinion, right, they are
lazy that you have to hustle, have to hustle.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
And I'm big I'm from Miami, so I'm a big
time hustler. That's like, I'm on it. You know, we're
doing this. I'm doing that. I'm on it. I'm trying
to say, Okay, how can we get make profit? We
do that, Okay, let's take it. We invest do this. Okay,
let me do a little so I could gain up
more money so I could do this. Like, man, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
That business mind that's mine, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah, I got two different businesses that I have here,
Like I got my transport business and I got the
T shirt printing like you know I do. I got
two contracts with a couple with the police force and
the fire station out here in Georgia. Like, so I
got my hands a little bit of everything, so I
could be able to generate that to be able to
put it back into my music career. And so like
(13:24):
I make I'm financially I'm a comfortable position, like I'm
good God God like because I made the right and
proper investments. I'm into cryptocurrency like I do a little
bit of everything. So people like crypto, Oh, those are gambles.
You're gonna lose money. I say, bro, I'm gonna lose money.
I say, I could show you some receipts. What I
had invested five hundred in the five and fifty grand is.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
One to walk away, get away, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
And get greedy. Don't get greedy.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
And that's that's another thing that there's a lot of
greediness in my stock industry. Because if you're greedy about
your own life money and try to double it, this
more greediness.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, and you're gonna lose opportunity too because you being
too down greedy. Just humble yourself, like like we're still
we're still on the way there. We're not freaking Michael Jackson, like,
we we're still doing the groundwork, you know what I'm saying.
Like when people try to like tell me certain stuff.
I just say, Okay, it didn't work for you because
you probably got green certain I said, look, I put
(14:24):
five hundred and I turned to fifty thousand from cryptocurrency.
How did you do that? But I'm like, yeah, but
you said that. I'm gonna lose it though, right, Like,
I know what I'm doing and I do my homework
on crypto, so I know that's kind of other things.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
People don't do their homework, and I think that's that
And unfortunately that's happened in the freestyle community. Back in
the days, a lot of them didn't they didn't know
the business. They don't know about business, and it's unfortunate,
you know. But now I think that this new generation
of freestyle, they're more into you know, this is what's
(14:55):
gonna work. I'm gonna, like you said, I do my homework.
I do you know, I gotta do this, I gotta
do that, try to find that information, right, you guys
are taking the time.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I definitely take the time, you know, just to the
point when I had started, when I got into a
freestyle world and I was talking to a few artists
and I said, hey, you got a p R and
he said, what the hell is a PR? I looked
at him, I said what He was like, Yeah, what's
a PR? O JA? I said, Performance rights organization? I
said do you have that? He said, I don't know
(15:28):
what that is. I looked at him and I say,
hold on, so all your music that's out there, how
are ya getting y'all publishing? How y'all get He said,
what is it publishing? I said, whoa like I started tripping.
I started tripping. Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait
wait wait wait. I say, if your song's been out
this long, if you had your PR, your publishing and
(15:51):
everything set up, I said, do you understand there's probably
thousands and hundreds of thousand dollars out there waiting for
you and you don't even know how do I do it?
I'm like, but you been doing this for like thirty years?
How do you not know this? Exactly like it had
me do say, oh, my old man, I'm too old
to learn new tricks. I say, all right, I say
(16:13):
that just more for me because I said, like it was,
it really weirded me out and it was like, oh,
I never knew nothing about it that. I said, you
don't you need try to learn the business or people
don't mess you over like these labels like that. But like,
but these guys, really a lot of them will be surprised,
like they didn't know like I was speaking Spanish to
them when when they heard me say that, no speaking Chinese,
(16:33):
you know what I'm saying, Like it really it took
me for spend to see that. A lot of them
in we so I don't even have a performance like organization.
They don't need.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's crazy because there's a lot of things that you
have to like educate yourself, and it's sad. It's sad
that they don't. Again, they don't do their wholework, and
you know they're causing harm to themselves, you know. And
then and that's when all these things starts. You know.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Absolutely, yeah, funny out there, like even right now with
Spotify and all these things out here, all the songs
that Stevie B's done, Johnny O done, Cynthia done. Man.
Every time they hit a million streams, man, that's like
five to ten thousand dollars that that can go right
into their pocket just off streaming alone. That's not even
publishing about sink licensing. They say, what it's sink license.
(17:25):
I'm like, that's the stuff that you get your song on, movies, commercial,
subway to shopping mall, Walmart. Like that's money too. Yeah,
one hundred ways to get this. You know, you just
gotta do start doing them necessary steps, the paperwork. Once
you get it situated, everything will just be on autopilot.
But you have to do the first step as far
as registering it, doing sound scan, doing doing the sound exchange.
(17:48):
And they're like, what's sound exchange? I'm like, shoot, like,
I'm like, I need to teach you all class right now,
like what's going on.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's true, It's true. There's a lot of things that
a lot of people don't know. They do not know,
you know. I think that the Internet has evolved in
a way that is just they feel that. Okay, so
I'm in the internet. People are just you know, right
there my songs and stuff like that. I'm good, I'm good.
You know, I made it. Know, you have so many
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little components.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
There's small components that I.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Do have to you know, And it is right there.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
It's type it what you're trying to know. It's going
to give you information. It's not hidden. Yeah, there's something
called Google literally just listen.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
I always said Google is my best friend. Don't message.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
YouTube is my best friend, Google YouTube. You get what
I'm saying, Like it's so true, so true. Yeah, but
it really it really like kind of shocked me to
see that. And that's probably thousands of dollars with your
name on it, and you're not collecting it. You know, decades,
you know, so you're not collecting because.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
But you're instead of educating yourself. I feel that you
are more into the little you know, Shenanigans of the Internet,
Shenanigans of life. Educate yourself. Who cares what's going on
in the Internet, Who cares what's going on in Instagram? TikTok?
You know, you're wasting time marinating and trying to do
(19:21):
this and trying to do that, trying to listen. Educate yourself.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Agree, And that's why I really wish to a lot
of artists do, because there's artists out there, man, they're
really talented from outside of freestyle and and freestyle be
looking and said, I'm like, damn, man, you got it.
You know what I'm saying, But you probably don't even
got all of you pat your stuff together where you
can really eat and really make.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Money exactly, you know, and and it's it's it's sad.
You know a lot of people to you know, they
don't want to hustle. They don't want to hustle.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
They got to they wanted to be handy.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
You know, they won't you want everything to come, you know,
they want to get here. You know, you have to
work hard. I'm still work hard.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm going through the book. I'm sitting there, I get
a highlighter, I'm doing this. I'm like, okay, so let
me get this contract. Okay, but you know, I'm reading,
I'm researching, I'm going.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
On my exactly yes. And another thing. And I say
this all the time. Not everybody is your friend. Not
every's unfortunate, but not everybody is your friend. I don't
care if hey, how are you blah blah blah, okay,
but they are not your friend. So you have to
(20:39):
again educate yourself learned. Just try to imagine, imagine what
is it your goals are going to be, and then
focus on that and stay on that, you know, And
because unfortunate people just just gonna take advantage of you.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yep, they try. And what what I like is that
when they try to take advantage of me. They'll do
it and make it seem like I like to smile
when they try to take advantage, I smile.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
You know what kind of.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Okay, Okay, okay, okay, after that fuck out, Like I said, you,
I don't know what I'm doing and what you just
told me. You're literally trying to finesse me. But I'm
a smile, so you could think that I'm dumb and
I don't know what you're talking about. But I know
what you're talking about. But the fact that I hear
that you're trying to finesse me. Once you finish our conversation, Bro,
(21:35):
I'm not calling you no more, I'm not hitting you up. Bro,
don't expect me to share your stuff because you really
think that you're talking to a dummy, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They actually and they actually go and get this and
write and like if somebody interviews them or anything for
a magazine anything of that sort, and they actually live
in a fantasy and they will talk harmful things about you. Right,
I don't me who who did it? It was me?
(22:06):
Oh we lost you, we lost you, we lost you. Okay,
then you know it's like they write harmful things about you.
They say things and in magazines anywhere, you know, and
and they have the audacity to do like that. You know,
it's crazy. It's really really crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
It's unfortunate, you know, it is. Unfortunately, it is unfortunately.
Like but like when they start, when they start doing things,
I'm like, I don't really see how that like, you know,
when I see people do that now, I'm like, yo,
how does that help your career? Like I'm curious, Yeah,
how does it help your career? And does it put
money in your pocket by bashing the next person?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I'm not doing that. I don't want to do that.
That's the waste of time. That's a waste of energy
that I could be doing something completely different, way more productive,
you know, where I could push my career forward. Or
I could really be hanging out with my daughter and
were going to create more maories.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You see me and have a good time and enjoy life,
because that's what we have to do right now. We
have to enjoy life, right it's too short. You ever
feel pressure to change your style just because you started
with R and B and you went over to freestyle,
have you been pressured to change, either back to R
and B or just change it, you know, your style
(23:31):
or the way you sing, just to stay relevant because
there's a lot of things, you know, new sounds, new things,
So I can't even understand the new songs now.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Right as far as most sound like, I was never
pressured to change my sound. It seemed like whatever genre
of falling into and I create something, it's like everyone
just grasp to my voice, you know, because R and B,
I'm more of my soulfos, laid back whichever. And then
when I got into freestyle, I still got that soulfulness,
but I put a little more power to how I sing,
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you know, and everyone loves it. Like at first I
was pressured. I almost felt like I was pressure to
go back to R and B because I got to
a point where I'm like, yo, I think I'm gonna
just slow down on freestyle because I was. I used
to get at random inboxes and it was from people
who don't show their face, of course, and they to say, hey,
you're never going to progress on freestyle because you're black,
(24:26):
And I was like what, And then I'm reading and
they say, yeah, you have an amazing voice, but you're
never gonna be Stevie, You're never gonna be I said, well,
I'm not trying to be Stevie Bee and that's number one, exactly.
Number two. I'm not trying to be john Yo. I'm
not trying to be Johnny Yo. I'm not trying to
be Synthy. I'm not trying to be Brenda K Starr.
I'm being Jay Mazoor. I say, but the fact that
you're saying is cuse of the color of my skin.
(24:46):
I'm like, man, this is like crazy because I'm like, well,
there's other artists in there, Like I say, look at
K seven or is that a problem? Oh he's Puerto Rican.
I say yeah, but it doesn't matter, you know. Like that,
it kind of bucked me out and I was just like, so,
I'm putting in all this work, spending all this money's
creating videos, creating content to give you guys quardi music,
(25:07):
and like this is how y'all looking at me? So
I was like, I never had this when I was
in a freestyle world, you know, I mean, not freestyle
art world. I said, when I was in the R
and B world, I never had this type of energy
being set to me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So I think it's just it goes back to the clicks.
It goes back to people not ready, you know, like
you have to move on. You have to move on.
And and you know they always freestyle is always a
Puerto Rican thing, Italian thing, Italian Okay, all right, they
just like it. Okay, move on. There's other people. There's
(25:40):
an independent artist. His name is Black Latin. He's my boy.
He is so sweet, and he started singing freestyle because
his mom used to play freestyle when he was little.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So that's how I even know about freestyles because of that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
And he told me, because I'm like, ben up there,
hold on, Black Latin, that you saying freestoun and he
was like, yes, I do. And I'm I just I
fell in love with it. And that's That's another thing,
is that you have to fall in love with your craft,
with what you love about music, right you know, so
look at that, but you just finishing what you were
(26:18):
saying that you you started listening to a freestyle right.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Right, because because growing up, I ain't know what it's
called freest music got all we called it party music
was because in Miami, the DJ last on Power ninety
six FM radio. He used to play that, and they
I used to hear say like, oh the party station,
party station, party station. So I remember hearing Johnny Yo.
(26:42):
I remember all that, And because my main four people
who I remember that I knew, like, okay, when you
hear that song, I think it's the main four or
five people. It was Stevie b, it was Johnny O, Cynthia,
Debbie dead Uh and Georgia Laman like those was like
(27:03):
the main people who face I used to see a lot,
like around Miami when it was having events stuff. But
when but my main time of hearing it and my
mom used to play it, and it was all because
like when we used to go to school all the time,
or we used to go to the flea market to
shop for school clothes, like in elementary school of middle school.
Like I always used to hear it inside the flea market.
You're here in the dream. I love you hear all that.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
You know, you know I'm gonna be honest. I'll be
like this, hey, and you don't got a little catchings.
I you know, I can't relate.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yeah, So it's just like hearing all that and I'm
like and when I end up meeting these people in person,
I'm like, damn, Like I wouldn't say I grew up
to you, but I remember hearing this song all the
damn time, you know. So I'm like, it's so it's
good just to be amongst them. And when I see
that people like George and Moms he sees me in
person and he's singing my song word for word, and
I'll be like, oh shit, you know what I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
How does that feel? Because I think that I'll be like,
I don't know, I'll go crazy. I'm like, d you
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
But I've been doing the music thing for so long
it's like I ain't go crazy. But in my mind,
I like when he did it, I was like, hey man,
thanks man, but fine. I was like, oh sh like
I said, okay, keep it together, Jay. You know. I
was like, all right, cool, like because I know celebrities
sometimes when you do the most, they'll kind of be like,
hey man, take it easy, you know. And I was like,
I wasn't gonna sit there and make a you know.
(28:24):
But when he said that, You're like, man, Jay, man,
how did you come up with that? And I'm like, man, shit.
Me and my brother was in the bed. Me and
my brother was in a bed chilling and I heard it.
You know, I got the email. I'm writing to it.
Me and him started going off each other and then
this was just came to life. He was like, bro,
I love this song. He said, well, I be singing it, man,
be playing. I'm like, man, thank you, man, Like that's
(28:45):
all I can say, thank you man. Just I'm gonna
keep cranking them out. You know, because there was one
person say, Jay, you you make it too many bangers.
You need to do some feelers where it's not nothing
that you know it's gonna hit hard. I said, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
How to do that exactly.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
I'm creating to make it. And then the next one,
I want that to be a hit, and I want
that to be.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
And it's hot day. Not just because I'm sitting here
talking to you, but I saw you a couple of
weeks ago, and listen, you are amazing. You are off
the hook like you're you were singing and you were
so energetic and you were connecting with the audience, and
I'm like, you know, I was recording you. I was like,
oh my god, I like this, and I like your energy,
(29:31):
like your energy a lot. You have this essence that
connect with people, and you're very humble at the same time,
because even when I noticed people would approach you, even
me when I approach, hey, how were you? You know,
you didn't lose that, you know, regardless of you know,
I'm tired, I just sang, you know, you know, but
(29:53):
you still had that humbleness and I have to give
it to you, you know, And and you don't you
don't see that. You don't see that from a lot
of people, right, So I definitely thank you for you know,
staying you.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Thank you like I'm and and that means a lot
because I just I don't know how to not be
humble because at the end of the day, like aside
from it being a father being motivated by my daughter,
I'm like, man, you guys motivate me, you know what
I'm saying. So doing this music, people will be like, oh, man,
(30:28):
I let another artist here. He's like, oh the base
was too low and he was this. I said, hey, hey,
I ain't make this for you. I made it for them.
Like you think they're paying a tod to the base
being too low. They're trying to they're trying to catch
a vibe. They had a long week, and I want
to give them something that they can be able to
relate to, so they'll be like, oh my god, this
is my favorite song. I said. I make music for
the people. I'm not making it for my fellow artists.
(30:51):
But a lot of them they'll try to critique and say,
so I'm like, man, listen, I don't care. Oh you
should have put raised this up a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And I'm like, now that you mentioned critique, deal with criticism,
you know, and even if it's constructive criticism, how you
deal with that? Even negative?
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Also negative? I deal with the very well.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
They do come out and say the stupidest thing, and
I'm calling them stupid. You know.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, they'll say some off the wall stuff, but coming
from from the hip hop R and B, I done
heard everything because at first, of course I didn't I
sing now, I didn't sing like that before, Like I
had to perfect my craft, so I used to hear everything.
I even had the house too. At the time. I
was way bigger. If y'all go on YouTube and search
up like old videos of me, oh man, I was huge.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
That's the past.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
We don't talk about the right right, But it's just
going back to like the things they say criticism worse.
So like if people telling me that now like constructive criticism,
I take very well because like I look at this
iron sharpening iron, you know what I'm saying. So I
don't take it personally like man, Jaye this, I'm like, Okay,
(32:00):
I said, well, for future stuff, I'll look into that.
But mother if a mother. But somebody ended up saying, yo, man,
your black asses. Okay, that's not constructive criticism.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
That is another thing again, not to go back to
where we were talking about again. That's you know, oh
he's back, Oh when he's doing this, Oh, while he's
in this genre and was this you know what I.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
Mean, I didn't know there was a color.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
The negativity that is it has to stop.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
I didn't know there was a color. You know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Like music, I didn't know music had color.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Right, music is music, you get what I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
So that's why the Shenanigans behind.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Us, And that's the reason that they're gonna be right
there in another ten twenty thirty years and they never
going to progress.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
No, and really people don't want to work with them
no more.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Right, That's why I say, I'll see you. I'll see
you at the top. Yeah that I'll be looking below though,
like I'm gonna see you, but I'll be looking down
below because I know you're not gonna be up here
with me, not with this mindset that you have. You know,
hit you anywhere, man, And that's why. And it goes
back like I'm super humble because man, the fans, without
the fans, who are we as artists, who are we
(33:12):
making the music for. I'm making it for my fellow artist,
so he can just tell me, yo, that sound amazing,
but he's not gonna buy it because even though it's
like it's like a friendly competition because technically, yo, you're
my boy. I rock with you. You're my homie for
life man, and we can eat together everything, But I
don't expect you to buy my music the moment come
(33:34):
out because you're an artist who damn so exactly you know.
So it's like but it's friendly competition of course, not
know nothing personal, but it's like, man, I don't expect
you to do it. I said, Man, I do this
for the fans, you know what I'm saying. So that's
why I'm like, without the fans who in mind. So
I'm gonna sit here and be stuck up with the fans.
Oh my god's Jay, and I'm gonna say no for me.
You pensant, like you think I'm gonna do something.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
Oh my god, it's crazy. It's crazy. And I know
that we're living in a world that is just you know,
you gotta be careful, you have to be. But at
the same time, you know you can't lose who you are,
you know, because then like you mentioned, you know, you
without the fans, when you know you guys are one,
(34:21):
you know, you know literally nothing.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
So it's like who am I really? Like? Like that's
why even like with my birthday coming up in Chicago,
we're doing the September seventh, Like I put a package together.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
When is your birth September seventh?
Speaker 1 (34:38):
September seven is when I'm doing a party.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, when is the burden August? Oh you're leo, Jay,
you better stop. I'm a virgo. Oh virgo in the house.
People don't don't mess with us. Don't know. That's why
you're it's a hard worker. You're a hustler. Listen now,
(35:03):
I don't understand you more right, right, right, That's what
we are right, we go gets some go get we
sure are.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yeah. That's why I like, I always tell people where
is your birthday? I say, look up, Michael Jackson, that's
his birthday. It was like, I said, I share a birthday.
I share, I share a birthday with this man, like
I'm proud of it.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Hello. That's a sign. That's a sign.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
And I hold onto that and I bragged it be
like okay, Jay, I'm like, no, man, I share a
birth with Michael Jackson. He's one of my like my
top tier people who I look up to.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
You you know, who can say, listen, I share my
birthday with one of.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
The greatest, with the king of pop.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You know, that's a sign. That's a sign.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's why, man, I'm just so humble with it. Man,
That's why I'm just so humble with it. And I
keep my head down, create new music and I give
it to the people, and I be I try to
help other artists on the way and try to give
him pointers and educate them. Some of them take it,
some of them don't, you know. But I'm like, all right,
it's cool, and I'm gonna just keep doing what I'm doing.
So eventually, when you see where I am in my
(36:09):
position right hopefully you know it'll rub off for me
to be Okay, Jay, what was I missing? Just do
this and do this and stay consistent. Content. You know,
you got to get these people content because that's especially
in this world right now, everything is social media.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Man, thing is social media with the radios radio now
is turning into dot com, you know, LGM radio, Freestyle,
Fusion radio. I mean everything is on the internet every
right now. Everything app for my people's over a Classic
(36:45):
Full seven, DJ Flashy he got his own app. He
just started. He's already like it's crazy. So it's all
about internet.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah. You gotta got to roll with the changes. That's
the thing. That's the world changes. You gotta people up
with it. Don't be left behind, you know, even though
it might say this is too this is too technical, Oh,
but give yourself time to learn it. Learn it because
if you get behind, like you're gonna be wondering why
stuff not moving and you kind of stand stagnant with
certain stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Exactly and be smart about it, right And I think
the word today was do your homework and educate yourself absolutely.
You know, watch out for the backstabbers. Watch out all
that negativity, just throw it out. Just do we move
it completely out of your life.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Right, right, right?
Speaker 2 (37:33):
And I think that things will fall into place.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Agree.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
And I am very very humble, and I'm proud, and
I am so happy that I got to meet you
hang out with you a little bit, just to you know,
get the vibe because a lot of people think, oh,
you know, they're just singers. They no, Actually they're good
people people. Yes, they're they're regular people, were hustling, working,
(37:59):
we gotta pay bill. It's just that they have a
talent and we just got to support it, right. And
And I am very humble, and I am proud that
I got to meet you and talk to you. It
was you know, it's amazing. It's an amazing experience.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
You know, I'm glad and that that does my heart good,
Like you have no idea, like and that's what I
want people to leave with, Like when we have these events,
I want people like that's the kind of reaction I
look for. So when they tell me like, hey, j
I have an amazing time. It was crazy energy, it was great,
I'm like, Okay, that's that's that's my that's my form
of paint too.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Well that's my former painent because I wanted to be
something memorable, you know what I mean. So that's why
even like August seventeenth, we have no Orlando and then
September seventh in Chicago, like I'm putting like a VIP
experience together, so these people could be able to go
back and have a bragging rights on what I'm gonna do,
like I'm doing something cargo, you know, because I want
(39:00):
to give them bragg and rights, you know, get them going.
But I just I just just try to be the
best version of me that I can.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
You know, that's all you could do. That's all you
could do, and just you know, keep going forward, keep
going forward, keep you know, feeding us, giving us. And
you let me tell you not because I'm interviewing you
and we're sitting chatting right now, but you have been.
You have amazing songs. You have amazing songs. I mean,
(39:30):
you know, I'm not trying to like you know, you
got some good songs.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Me, you see me, I'm not I'm not, you know,
far from arrogant. I'm far from arrogant.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
But this is good. You know that a lot of people,
you know, you could you could be a great singer.
But if the song is but you have good songs
and then you have the voice for it, like it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I could really like I could, I could safely say,
I know, like in freestyle and the support of the
people from all over freestyle from all over the US
or the world period, if they get behind me, I
will be the guy when it comes to this new
era of freestyle.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
I know, I can it just a yeah, the sound,
the way, the whole your your arrangement, the music arrangement,
even though it's still that freestyle sound, but still you
try to incorporate little things you know, you know, but
that's for me, that's what I track. I'm like, man,
(40:36):
I like this sound. You know, it's a little it's
the same thing, not the same thing, but like that
little freestyle but it got a little sould, a little
that little.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yeah, that little yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:49):
Like you know, I'd be like, man, I like this
the whole the way, the whole music arrangement, everything, and
it's like, man, I was really like, I like it.
I really like it, and I understand I there's unfortunately
there's people out there that really you know, I'm saying,
I'm say I'm playing. They really they're not that great, right,
(41:12):
But there's some good singers out there, good sing that
savors iudea that.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I'm like, damn, he better than me. I could say,
I'll say it.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Humbly and you could sing hello, lie and lie firse.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I can sing live definitely, like I can sing without
no music. But they'd be singers out there. I'm like, damn, man,
that boy could blow like like like it's I don't
want to name drop, but when I like, for example,
the first person to say that do Julio meno. That
man voice is ridiculous and I know it's ridiculous to
the point I'm like, bro, you sing way better than me.
(41:50):
Said I'll come on, young bull. I'm like, na, holy boy.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
The one he and he's smart and he just but
he's a good singer. This is ridiculous and I'm live
and like, you know, no arrangement and you know what I.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Mean, remember that, yeah, strong man not tell him all
the time. I'm like, man, don't let it go to waste.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
Man, Listen. You know when you get goose Bums, You're
like it's like they could sing they Oh my god,
I'm telling you. I'm like I could say that from
you know, about you. I could say that about Sammy, Yes,
Sammy's sam from Three to the Max. Those are those
(42:36):
are my boys. I can say Jesse, Jesse could sink
his ass off Rometo and you know, Anthony, I know,
I'm live too. I'm like, you can't forget man, and
you know, like the New Crystal, you know, like new
Free Style. I mean they could sing. I'm just like, okay, girl, yeah,
(43:01):
and it's amazing. It's just it gets me excited. I'm like, oh,
because you guys have such talent and thank you for
sharing it with us, because.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I'm you know, because again we thought you guys were
really who we're doing it for. You know. So yeah,
this this, this is not gonna stop. This train going
to keep going.
Speaker 2 (43:22):
And listen, just keep going. There's gonna be bumps in
the roles, you know, what, the hell with it? Just
go over them, go over them. Just never doubt yourself
and you keep going. And there's gonna be good people
and bad people and a lot of narcissistic behavior. It's
(43:44):
ridiculous and a lot of negativity. But you know what,
as soon as you just stay in your own world
and focus on what your goal, and absolutely you could
accomplish anything. Absolutely, you could accomplish anything. So you know,
I'm so happy. Thank you so much for sitting down
with me chatting. You know, it's been a pleasure. So
(44:08):
when you come up and to New York, listen, call
your girl right here. We're gonna go hang out.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
So everybody out there listen, just you know, support. All
these events are out there, go see them. They're amazing cigarets. Listen,
especially Jay, he's coming up with some new stuff coming out,
you know, the new events happening soon. Listen. Just support.
He's a Yeah. You have Instagram, you he has TikTok Facebook.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
You could google, Google Jamas or everything.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Everything because I google jams or yes I did I
google you.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah you've seen it all right, like so so google
it or James Music dot com. That's my official website,
James on Music dot com. And you find everything you
looking for. Photos, biography, pictures.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
Good pictures too. They're not like Ricklydnkley well from the projects,
you know, like this, Hey now he got good pictures,
all right?
Speaker 1 (45:11):
Not just no, I'll put everything a one.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
It's a vital thing. It's a vital thing. We do that,
We do that, but thank you so much everybody. Just support, support, support,
So we're gonna you're gonna listen to a couple of
his songs next and just support him, you know. Thank
you so much. Day welcome, love and blessings always.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Now let's listen to some great music and remember to
come back next week for some more real talk, real
music on the number one radio station in New York,
the l d M Radio station
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