June 4, 2025 • 43 mins
Sukanya calls Kody a big diaper pamper baby, Robyn still refuses to participate, Christine calls Kody out for his rotten behavior, and Janelle admits to hating who Robyn and Kody have become. Holy sh*t, are we done with this season already?!
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Truly helps? Thank you in Bingos. All right, your takeaway,
you watched it, I assume you were conscious for the
whole thing I was, you didn't like rage, quit your
consciousness and end up teleporting to another dimension to get
away from Cody Brown. So what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, I'm loving Christine and Janelle kind of calling out
Cody a bit. That's really great. I want more of that.
And I thought Robin in particular looked really mad. I
feel like she's hiding her anger in that tense Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, it is so tight.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
She can't even watch the clips because she's so pissed off. Yeah,
and I'm kind of living for it really, Yeah, I'm like,
stay mad, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Cry harder. Yeah, I really noticed that. I'm like, what
are you bringing to the table, Robin, Like, why are
we employing you to entertain to us?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
If this is all you're doing is sitting there with
your nasty ass expression in your eyelashes and a very
resistant to answer questions, as if it's below you to
even be there, So then why are we paying? Why
do you got this two point one million dollar manch
and off of our raccoon back?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
For real?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And you be mad?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah I noticed that as well. Yeah. My takeaway was
that I kind of like sue Kanya really suky Yes,
I saw a little bit of fire from her. She
was definitely pushing back against Cody Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
God.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, the finale stare off was very awkward. That was
so crazy and super pathological, malignant narcissis performances, Yeah, which
I loved. And she sat there in the silence, she
didn't squirm. I I'm kind of writing for Fukie.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, calling him a baby yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah. Another thing I saw as I was wandering the
internets was that people were kind of coming for Christine
quite a bit, why, saying that she seems to be
still fixated on Cody and like David is sitting there
right next to her, and still she's going on and
on and on about how terrible Cody is. And I'm like,
I'm loving this version of Christine.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
This is literally her life and she's just talking about
it with her new man right there supporting her. Like
I don't I don't understand that criticism. Like Mary made
that comment too in this being like why do you
talk about Cody with David? Why do you talk about
him so much? Like because she was married to him
for twenty six years and she's on a show that's
got nineteen seasons and she's commenting on it, like, why
(04:56):
would it feel like that's kind of normal?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And don't you want her to be real?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The more that she better, says like, the better that
it is. Keeping in mind, of course, that this tell
nothing is being filled. Filmed approximately two weeks after she
filed suit, right, and so later in this episode, when
they're talking about going on double dates and Cody's like, well,
we're not healed yet, what he really means is there
(05:20):
is a pending lawsuit and there's no damn way I'm
gonna sit down at a table with that woman because
I hate her.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I think that's why he did the stare down.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yep, And I love her, and I think we're seeing
kind of this unbridled Christine. She's a bit more brave
with some of her commentary, and I just want so
much more of that. She's releasing her book this fall,
which I still have not pre ordered Why It's Your
cho But like, I hope she's bringing some of that
(05:50):
to the book.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It'd be so fun.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I hope so too. I don't want any more cryptic crap,
like just lay it on the table, say how you
really feel.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I want it with Janelle, for example, like why are
you being so careful? Like why did it take you
twenty hours to get to the sentence where you say
I just don't like them. We don't need to hear
all the equivocating, like I'm sure I have no problem
with Cody and it's not that I can't be in
the same No tell us that you hate them, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And then she says I don't like them, and then
Suki's like why and she's like.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I don't know, I just don't like them, Like I mean,
just expect why do you say, Suki?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
But also Suki, some of her questions were so dumb.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I know. I'm so I have a love hate relationship
with Suki because she's a terrible interviewer. She's good at
the same time, she's getting better with Cody. I just
I don't know some of the questions she asked.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I'm just like, really, you can just feel her though,
like trying to find trying a space where she can
insert a question and follow up. Yeah, Like, just dealing
with all of these people has got to be a nightmare.
She's doing pretty yeah, Okay, So those are my thoughts,
all right, those are your thoughts. Yes, let's get into
this episode. Season nineteen, episode twenty seven. This is my
(07:12):
other takeaway. I'm so fucking tired of this show, right,
this is like one of my favorite shows. I know,
we go crazy, have so much fun talking about it,
but like, I need a break.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
There's a reason breaks exist. But we've had a freaking
hiatus in the mid season and these four tell alls
and then allegedly we're gonna have season twenty in like
two months.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I know, crackers. So we are in episode twenty seven
entitled one on one, Part two, Part two, take it Away, Beatrice.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
When we start off kind of wrapping up the conversation
about what a big giant failure code is from their faith,
which I do love. We have Christine saying, you know,
by polygamous standards, like if a man loses three of
his wives and they all leave, it's a problem with
the man, not the women every time, every single time.
(08:02):
And so I do love that little jeb to Cody
because it is the truth. It's like, it's not just
these women. If it was one woman leaving and the
rest stayed, okay, maybe it's that woman maybe, but if it's.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Three of them out of four before, Yeah, you don't
have a good drug record, and if all of their
children have a problematic relationship with you, that is also
an indication that you're the problem Cody.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Brown exactly, But he can never admit to that because
he can't look in the mirror and just be humbled.
And then we have another conversation about Janelle thinking that
Cody is playing the devil to run interference for Robin.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Right, like, intentionally villainizing himself to take the heat off
of Robin. And I think she's probably right. I think
so too, And I think the best that he can
do is this cartoonish caricature of what a devil would be.
And I think that there's nothing that he can do.
(09:02):
There's no amount of villainy that he could show us
that we'll take my attention away from Robin. Oh for sure,
because sitting there cold on the couch interview after interview segment,
she is just an evil woman in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh yeah, she does not like the other women or
Suki or Suki or production. No, she only cares about
Cody and herself and those tight curls that she's styling
in her hair. But yeah, I mean, like I can
see Cody playing this caricature of a devil to defend
Robin and to protect Robin because he does love her
(09:39):
and she is his soulmate, and like that is a
natural human thing to do, Like you want to protect
your spouse if you care about them, right, But I
think Cody is also just evil, Like I think he's
a terrible person and he's bitter and he's a narcissist.
So there's like two things going on here, Like it's
it is his ego, but he is trying to defend
(10:00):
Robin in his weird way, because Robin can do no wrong.
And we've seen that theme over the last simple seasons
for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That's why we say that she's the sacred cow. She's
the untouchable person in the family exactly, and that is
how he's he's treating her. But I just felt like
him being called out for that, like that was pretty juicy.
That's Janelle kind of getting close to the soft parts
(10:28):
with him. And I just always watch these thinking to myself,
what is Cody going to think when he watches it back.
When they start this episode calling him a failure, I know,
and then they end this episode with him looking like
an absolute toddler with the stare off with Suki like
it's just.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So good, it is really good. Yes, what did you
think about Cody like addressing the camera in the scene
with his fake accountability to the og wives being like, no,
it's my fault too, I did stuff bad too.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
He was being a baby, which Suki called him appropriate.
I thought that it was not accountability, No, not at all.
Suki follows it up by saying, well, that's you being accountable. No,
it's not, because what brings him to even say it
in the first place is like, well, what do you
want me to say that? I have ownership in this too? Okay, fine,
I have ownership in this too. I was a part
of it too. Are you happy? Yeah, Suki, that's not
(11:20):
accountability all. That's somebody having a temper tantrum. That's petulance.
That's baby shit.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And that's why I don't really like her because she
gives into that and it's like, oh, that's accountability, good job, Cody,
and it's like it's not, though, it's really fake and stupid.
And then Cody follows it up with saying, well, I
would love to have it back.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
What does that mean? What did he mean by that
he would love to have the accountability back.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
He would love to have the other women take accountability
for being terrible.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
God, yeah, that's right over my head. I'm like, what
are you even saying?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
He wants the other women to be like, you know what,
Cody's sorry, I was the worst sister wife ever. I
couldn't be like Robert. I'm sorry, fault.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, that was wild, but I do think Suki in
that moment, was trying to finesse the conversation. And with
a narc like Cody, you have to give them something,
You have to feed the ego. It's in order to
get something right from him that's honest and true, and
he's going to do it so begrudgingly, And that's what
that was. That was true him begrudgingly looking at his
wives and taking ownership. But he wasn't doing that at all.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
No, not at all. And then we have Janelle saying
for like taking forever to say that she doesn't like
Cody and Robin, but she would never really want to
hang out with them. She's like, I think she says,
I don't even want to know them, yeah, which I'm
just like, so.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Nice, I don't need it, I don't want it. I
don't like them. And of course the subtext here is
the fact that she lost her son. Yet like the
things that are going unsaid, I think are much more
compelling than the things that are being said. And so
I'm wondering about that rage that Janelle must have, oh,
(12:55):
knowing about the relationship that her son Garrison had with Cody,
which was a non relationship, knowing that Garrison was the
kid along with Gabe, or it might have just been
Garrison who called Robin and confronted her about how she
was an agent of wicked disruption and destruction in this family,
like he was the one who did that, and then
(13:16):
shortly thereafter, like he took his own life. And so
that's living inside of Janelle, and I wish we could
get more of that articulated, not necessarily specific to Garrison,
but like, give me more of what you're actually feeling.
Like right when you say, like I have no problem
hanging out with Cody, what do you mean to love?
I have any problem hanging out with the man who
(13:36):
isolated you and the man who favored another woman, and
a man who treated your kids like crap? What do
you mean I'd be okay to be in the same
room with him.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, I'm really tired of like just kind of tiptoeing
around the actual truth, like we can be honest. Like
I think they think that it would be mean to
say that they just hate Robin and Cody and other
evil demons. I mean, I guess, but it's also the truth,
like just say how you feel.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I actually was wondering about that. I was wondering whether
Mary and Janelle and Christine to some extent, are being
this careful because maybe the show is tied to Cody
and Robin, and like they think, like in the back
of their mind, well, if I if I just come
right out and say all the terrible things I want
to say about these people, maybe they'd walk away from
(14:23):
the show, or maybe this show would end, And so
I kind of have to ride the lightning and just
imply how I feel.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Like. I hate that, though, but I'm like, I feel
like everybody in the world wants Cody and Robin to
be off the show. Hire them, and everyone in the
world would watch Mary and Janelle and Christine live their lives.
I mean, it might be.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Boring even if it sucked. I would watch it just
support it, and because they were off my television and
Robin exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So I just I don't know. Maybe they're also just
trying to be the bigger people, trying to be good
people and not talk shit about Cody and Robin, because
Cody and Robin have been talking mad shit about them.
But I'm just like, just stoop down a little bit, Yeah,
just be honest.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Get to the real stuff a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, divine rage. And then we have clips of Mary's
moving day.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh my god, I had to watch that again.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
With Nate, with the awkward Mary back in that caboose
up to Cody.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And the tittering and the laughing. You have to laugh
about it in the middle school. Oh t he Oh
it was sexual, but we didn't mean it that way.
But it does make me remember that. I'm like, oh god, courage.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
The thing I loved about this though, was watching Robin
watch that clip because she couldn't even really watch it,
and she looked really mad. I feel like Robin, I
don't know, my fake psychic intuition. I feel like Robin
was super mad.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That really happened. Yeah, Well, because obviously when Suki questions
her about it, she's just like, no, this is the
Mary and the Cody that I remember, Like they play
full and they're laughing, and that's why I was telling them, like,
are you sure you guys want to throw it all away?
Because this is who you are. Like, so she was
acting like she wasn't bothered by it. She also said
something like, well, I wasn't really thinking about it in
(16:13):
those terms at the time. Well, but yes you were.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, you definitely you absolutely were. You definitely were well
and especially like when you have the clips of Cody
back then and now in the tell all being like no, no, no,
but like what I have with Robin is divine and
sacred and my body is hers, and like I love
her and I don't want to ruin that. I don't
want to break that covenant.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like is that because she puts her brass knuckles one
walks in the door.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
She's just like, yeah, yeah, I think she's jealous. I
think I think Robin has always been. I think that's
why Cody cut off intimacy with all the other OG wives.
I think, like you know, part of it was Cody too,
Like part Cody probably was like I cannot do this anymore,
right not bang these women anymore. But I feel like
Robin also had a hand in it of like, but
(16:59):
what we have is to fine. I know, on's special,
and like it hurts my feelings when you have sex
with Christine, It hurts my feelings when you bump up
against Mary and that big old booty, because I don't
got a big old but you know, like I feel
like Robin says these things. Yeah, that's just my thought, though.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I wouldn't be a bit surprised. I mean I think
she was the manipulator all along, Yeah, and Cody kind
of just fell into whatever it is that she wanted
to do, yeah, and what she was orchestrating. I just
felt like this was an entirely strange segment. But what
I loved was when we cut to Christine, Yeah, because
it was in this part of this episode that Christine
really kind of unleashes on Cody and she's just like,
(17:35):
what are you doing? And they're showing or is it this?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We ultimately get to the long trip to Prawan and
Cody saying goodbye and sobbing, and this is where Christine
calls him out for being manipulative and she's like, this
is the kind of stuff he would do is just
yank her along and hot and cold, and this is
why Mary was always so confused, and he should hold
(17:59):
a mirror to himself. Also, with Cody saying that I
want to be the one to walk Mary down the aisle,
we've got Christine saying like that is a position of honor,
and the subtextas you do not deserve that or anything else.
And furthermore, you're calling it an end of an era,
but it's an end of an era. It is an
end of a family that you brought about. Yep, you're
(18:20):
blaming everybody else, but it's you that has done all
this and now you want to cry.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I loved that. Yeah, I love that she was calling
that out because it brings a different perspective because I
think when we talked about that episode, we kind of
gave Cody a little bit of grace and we're like, oh, well,
like maybe he is genuinely sad, Like a part of
him is sad that he lost all of this, and
maybe that's true. But at the same time, like Cody
being a narcissist is totally weaponizing his tears there and
(18:46):
trying to like manipulate Mary, who quite honestly is really
easily manipulated by Cody, And like even Mary talks about
this section and says that she was super confused and
super weirded out by Cody's emotional reaction to this, and
then talks about a time where they had lunch recently.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like two weeks previous to the filming of this Tell.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
All, and he said, like, I'm still grieving the loss
of our marriage, and Mary's just like, you don't get
to tell me that, Like, you don't get to tell
me that kind of stuff anymore, Like we are done.
Don't burden me with that. That is your own shit.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, do you not believe it?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I do, I absolutely do. But I think that Cody
was not actually grieving the loss of his marriage to
Mary in the conversation two weeks before they filmed this.
Oh yeah, I think he is manipulating in that moment
so that when they get to the tell all, Mary
is not going to tell all the truths that he
knows that she can tell. He knows Christine's showing up
because Christine just sued him, he knows that Janelle has
(19:47):
no love for him. He's hoping he can have an
ally and Mary which is why we see him continually
call her a friend. You know, we're friends.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I don't want to go over that because he's hoping
she's not going to talk shit about so he's trying
to call ahead of time, which is something Kyle Richards
does on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Like she'll send
these mass texts to different people to form alliances for
the reunion so that he's not dragged too much. That's
why he did that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That actually makes so much sense, because I kept feeling like,
even though I was happy that Mary was saying some
of these things, like Mary was saying, you know, Cody,
you don't get to burden me with your grief, like
that's your own shit, we're done. I was happy to
hear that, but at the same time, I still felt
like she was being too nice to Cody and too
nice to Robin, and like not saying the full truth
because she does have all the secrets and it is
(20:35):
really annoying that she still sees some good in Cody,
Like I don't know if I'm like, I don't know
if I should think that that's an admirable trait about
Mary that she tries to see the good in people,
or that she tries to move on and be light
and happy and not be bitter, or if I.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think it's a weakness because I don't think she
tries to see the good in Christine. I don't think
Christine tries to see the good in Mary. She doesn't
do that with other people for whatever reason, she does
do that with Cody. Let me ask you a question though,
speaking of Cody weaponizing his tears in order to manipulate
Mary when he helped to move her to Pawan, to what end?
(21:16):
Like if he's manipulating her, what's he trying to get
out of her in that moment?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I don't know money, because wasn't Didn't she come back
after that to make the I think so payment from
Coyote Pass?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Maybe I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It gets so many episodes.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I think she did come back into town, though, and
she brought that check that could have been it.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, And I think you're right that he does need
somebody on his team because Janelle and Christine are not
going to come to his side and don't hear his
bullshit and they're done talking to him, because even Cody
says in this episode that him and Christine are not
speaking at all, not on good terms whatsoever. So yeah,
I think he probably was just like, Okay, I know
(21:58):
that I can at least manipulate Mary a little bit
to get her to be my friend.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And let's not forget that this was filmed early October
twenty twenty four, so the majority of the episodes for
season nineteen have not aired, and none of the folks
here have seen any of the episodes, And so Mary
doesn't see how Cody continues to talk about her in
season nineteen and drag her and even in this interview,
(22:24):
the backhanded commentary that he's giving about Mary and the
other wives, like it's no, it was around Christine, but
like he's continuing to do that, but she doesn't know
it at this time. And I think this is where
her and Jen went up on their Instagram, like in
January or February of this year, after seeing Cody call
Jen and Mary's other friends a bit yeah, and Mary
(22:46):
went up on Instagram and said, if I had known
that when I sat down to film the reunion, it
would have been a different reunion. So she's trying to
play nice, and I don't know why she would After
season eighteen, I know, and all of the fuck shit
that he did. But I think she's sitting here trying
to play nice and that's why we're getting what we're
getting from Mary.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And that's the thing with Mary. It's like how many
times do you have to see this behavior from Cody
to like believe that he's a bad person? Like I
guess maybe now she sees it after the bitch.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Common But I wouldn't be a bit surprised that we're
filming for season twenty and it's gonna be the same thing.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yep, the same thing. And it's like, even in this
tall al, Cody's like going on a tirade about how
him and Mary and the rest of the wives are
never going to agree on like why things ended, and
so at least with him and Mary, they'll just like
agree to never talk about it and never deal with
it because they're just never gonna see eye to eye
because we have all of our own biases. And I'm
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just like, well, then how can you even be friends
if you can't like be honest and authentic with each
other and you're just gonna like shove shit under the rug.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, now he wants to move on now, he doesn't
want to talk about it anywhere with Suki because he
doesn't want to have to sit in the ownership of
what he has done and what he has said against
these women and what do you done to these kids? Right,
So that's why he's just like, Okay, well I'm over it, though, Like,
why are we still talking about this? This is old shit. Sorry,
this happened just a couple of months ago. I still
pissed off about it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You still have to react to the shit that just
aired on TV, dude.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, It's just crazy to me how unable they are
to sit there and watch some of these clips, Like
when we get to the clip of him meeting David, right,
the next one, let's do let's just go and.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Get to it. Yeah, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh well, I think it's section three or whatever. We
start with discussing Cody and Robin meeting David for the
first time at Gwen's engagement party. I think it was
the engagement party and how awkward that was. And so
Suki's approaching it with Cody kind of bringing up the subject,
and Cody just starts to talk about, oh, yeah, well,
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you know, I didn't know if I was going to
be meeting this stood or something, and then Suki responds
and says, well, let's watch the clip, and he's like, well, no, no,
but I mean, I'm just saying that it was and
it's actually a really good conversation. And I don't know
why he was talking to in particular, but he starts
to nervously filibuster audience just to continue to talk because
he doesn't want to watch the clip because he knows
(25:09):
he comes off super awkwardly and cringey, and he doesn't
want to have to watch it back himself yeap, or
have any of us watch it either, And so he
actually tells her like, no, don't roll the clip. I've
already seen the clip. Let's just talk about it. And
they do it anyway, and so she's while he's talking,
She's just like, Okay, roll the clip, which is really great,
which was awesome and I love that, Siky, yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And then we watched the clip, and like you have,
Christine and David talked about how Cody got really read
and it was like really awkward, and Christine was frustrated
because Cody last minute decided that he was going to
come to Gwen's engagement party. Even though he didn't RSVP
and this is just totally his mo o because he's
a narcissist and everything has to center around him. And
Cody's like, well, I wasn't read. I wasn't read there
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and it was fine, and like over explains, like, no,
it was only cringey just because I felt like a
little awkward, but like it was nice because David's nice
and like I didn't feel weird around him, and it
was just weird because of Christine because I hate Christine.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Right, he said something like if we were benevolent, maybe
we would have gone out to dinner and met each
other that way, but we couldn't and we couldn't manage that,
so we did it at Gwen's and it was just
really wonderful to see him squirm like that and.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
He is coping so hard because it was awkward. Like, yeah, everyone,
everyone could cut that tension with another.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
For anybody, it would be awkward. If I were to
meet my ex husband's wife, which I've never met her,
that would be very awkward. I'd be super pretty though,
very cool, but it'd be awkward. Yeah, you can just say, yeah,
that was hella awkward. I feel weird about it. I'm
sure I came off like a bit of a clown.
I'm sorry, like that's what I do well.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And even Robin says it, like Robin's like yeah, Like
I'm sure it was awkward, especially for Christine because that's
just how divorce is. Like Robin's being real here, but
Cody's the one that's like, no, but it was that
awkward for me, Like it was fine. It was just
like a weird moment, but like I was fine, and
I wasn't written I was, I wasn't awkward.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Was so great? Did you catch though, when Robin was
lecturing us about divorce and She's like, well, I'm sorry.
You guys have children together. You guys shared a life
and you're going to have to continue to share a life.
And I immediately went to David Jessop. I know, I
immediately went to you know, the older kids and their
biological father and how they systematically removed David Jessup from
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those kids' lives. And now you want to sit here
on the couch with your hard ass jaw and lecture
us about how to move on beyond divorce and co parent.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I know, okay, I'm like, as if you did that right?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, huh leaves.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I can't with her. The thing that annoys me so
much about Robin is that she like acts dumb and
she acts like confused all the freaking time. I don't
think you're a sacred cow?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
How do you? How do you not know what a
sacred cow is? Didn't we learn about what a sacred
cow was when we were in elementary school, middle school,
high school. We knew about India and about Acre. We
knew what we were talking about when we use the
term sacred. So we're just gonna pretend you don't know
what a sacred cow is, Robin.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's always her thing, Yeah, just to act all confused
and like I'm innocent. I'm just buying American girl dolls
Withdelle's money.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I'm not doing anything wrong exactly. I just can't with her.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And then we have this like weird, awkward conversation about
how like Cody would totally want to hang out with
David and he had a dirty thought that him and
David could go and take a guy dirty.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
What was happening on that guy's trip? Dirty little thoughts?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Well, he was nervous about meeting a super handsome stud.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Right, I was like, what a weird word to you,
this little freudian.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Slip a little bit, but talking about taking a guy's
trip with David, I'm like, you're so lying. I don't
know why we're even having this conversation. And then Christine's like, well, yeah,
like maybe we'd have a double date in the future,
but like right now, I don't want to deal with him.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Christine was really weird here. Well she actually says, no, yeah,
it would be okay if they want on a guy's
trip together, and David's like, yeah, we could maybe do that.
I mean there'd have to be different rules. Well, what
kind of different rules? Well, that's between me and Cody.
Also sounding kind of weird, I'm remembering that weird dance.
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I'm remembering that weird lap dance You've got DVA. But
I mean, Christine's acting like she would be just fine
to have some sort of a blind date, not blind date,
double date with Cody and Robin sometime in the future,
but then she starts to qualify it by saying, but
not right now though, yeah, because like I would be
way too nervous and I'd be very uncomfy to have
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to sit with them and that's because he just does
not know who I am. And we were married for
twenty six years and he has painted that a certain
way as if he doesn't know who I am, when
when I am committed to something, I'm committed one hundred percent.
She went into this weird tangent to me, like you
didn't need to really say all that. You could have
(30:10):
just said, I will never sit down and have dinner
with bumb ass Cody and problem.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I know well, And I think she was like saying
that almost like a trauma dump a little bit, because
it's obviously like a pain point, and I'm like, we
get it, Christine, like just be honest and real about it.
But maybe she's trying to be careful because of lawsuit
and she's trying to like choose her words a little carefully.
But she does say she goes on and talks about
like I don't like the way that he talks about me,
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and I don't like the way that he thinks about me,
and so I don't want to be around that. I'm like, Okay,
that's that's it right right there.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Took us a long way to get there, pretending that
you'd allow your husband to go on a boy's trip
with Cody in his dirty little thoughts, I know.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
And then Cody talks about like, well, there would have
to be a lot of healing that would have to
occur for us to even get to that point. And
then he says like, I'm very forgiving. I'm like, okay, sure, Dan.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Well, you know he's sitting there pissed off so high
heaven because he's been sued by Christine and again his
house hasn't sold at this point. He's I mean, may
be under contract for the new mcmachin. I don't really know,
but like things are not solid for him right now,
and he's getting sued and I believe they can go
back three years for that child support based on all
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the money that he's been making on Sister West. Till
you know, he's upset and he's pissed, and he's trying
to pretend he would hang out with David and maybe
someday hang out with Christine. But the mask starts to slip.
He's like, yeah, we're not healed though, Yeah, and she
likes to undermine me by trying to take all my money, right.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
And then Suki's just like, well, have you seen each other?
Enough to like actually do some real healing, like maybe
you should, you know, hang out and like try and heal,
and Cody just gets silent. He's just like, well, maybe
or maybe not.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
This is the weird kind of power dynamics that sometimes
emerge with Cody and other women. It's really misogynistic. It
is an attempt to be quite intimidating and or threatening.
And he seems like a little little man, like I
could just squash him if I wanted to. I'm like,
I don't know who you think you are trying to
(32:14):
intimidate you, frail, little old little peacock of a dumb.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Man straight up, I know. It's like he gives off
this energy, like how dare you even ask me? Like
I'm the King?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Do you not know who I am? Right? I could
stand up and walk out right now, then fucking do
it and don't pay him, I know, and then fire him.
Why are we having Robin again? I ask again, Like
she's giving absolutely nothing. She's unwilling to even watch the clips.
Why are we employing these people?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
And that is also really weird because I don't remember
last year she was watching the clips last year, but
this year she's just looking down the entire time, and
it has like nothing.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
To say because we validated them by giving them thirty
episodes in season nineteen, so they must thought to themselves, Oh,
this this stuff that I'm doing, this villain stuff that
I'm doing, Like I don't have to show up one
hundred percent, I don't have to let them film in
my house, and I got thirty episodes. So this is
what they're thinking, and this is the perfect time to
lower the boom and fire their.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Asses, right, But we're not going to.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Or fucking cancel Sister Wives. Just people talking.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
About that, but we're not. We're gonna get season twenty.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
So Cody just sits there and says maybe not, like
I don't know if I want to heal or whatever,
and Sukie's just like, well, why don't you meet Christine
where she's at? And this is the last part of
the episode where Cody just looks at her and stares
at her silently like a psychopath and goes something like
this picks off a piece of hair all dramatically. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
She's like, what is that supposed to mean? Is that
symbolic of something? He's like, no, just a hair I'm
picking it off. I just want to condescend I I.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Just want to beat him up. I'm sorry, I shouldn't
say that. Legally that's a joke, but like, I just
want to do unspeakable thanks to this man.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Why I hate them so much? And I usually watch
each episode twice and it is so difficult for me
to take a second pass with some of these episodes.
I just can't stand them so deeply, so deeply all
the way into my butt for angry and mad at
these people are real.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's terrible. And then we get to the preview, and
so the next couple tell alls we're gonna talk about
Coyote Pass.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We could have done this in one tell all, but no,
we go we.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Talk about Coyote Pass, and Janelle says something like Cody
always seems to.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Come out ahead because he's selfish.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And he's also been financially abusing everybody right taking that
the money.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's the truth.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And then we have another conversation about the luggage rack metaphor,
which we talked about before, and it's how a metaphor
for their marriages and blah blah blah. Then we're gonna
ask Robin the stupidest question ever. Does he put your
luggage on the luggage rack in a hotel?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
What do we think the answer is going to be.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
She's gonna be like, no, it's Cody, and.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Cody's gonna be like, absolutely, Idea, that's my wife because
I'm a gentleman and my entire identity is being her
mea exactly yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
And then we have Christine saying something like appearance has
always mattered the most to Cody, and like he started
focusing more on what everybody else was saying in the
world instead of focusing on the inside and being a
good person. And then we have Mary making a comment
about Christine and like why does she have to talk
about Cody all the time? To David, Like, Mary, why
(35:31):
don't you just shut up?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, you're not a girl's girl. No, you're not a
girl's girl.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Maybe stop simping for Cody please, And then we have
Cody calling the rumor about Robin and him only wanting
each other just internet bs, right, so I'm like, oh,
so you are reading they twitting Hi, Hi, we hate you.
(35:55):
And then we have Janelle saying Cody has to justify
all of the reasons why Robin is so perfect to him,
which I love the little digs. And then we have
to ask Robin again, would you consider polygamy?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
We've already done this.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
How many times would we have to?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And then we referenced it through flashbacks already.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
And we all know no matter what she says, they
will never be polygamists ever again.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
If I could get a guarantee bullshit that it would
work out, then yeah, I'd be open to it. Fuck you,
Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
You're the one who.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Ruined these families and these relations.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You literally stole Cody away from his entire family.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, you're the reason there's no guarantee women like you.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yep, because you're an evil snake.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yep. You're an awful person.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, with a hard job.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Sorry, I thought she looked kind of pretty.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Not that we'd need to comment on people's appearances, but
we will. Oh, but I thoughtually looked kind of pretty,
Sutch and she smiles. I think, oh my gosh, you
should smile more. First of all, because your mouth is
literally trendly like it's it's the gravitational pull of your
mouth line and stuff is going down to your boobs
and stuff. It's like really bad. It's like a muppet.
(37:09):
It's super bad. These are called marionette lions, Robin, and
you want to probably get those fields or something. Anyway,
I'm just saying smile more, But then I sound like
those toxic men are just like, why don't you smell more? Yeah,
but I mean it looks pretty. Smile more.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And Robin's case though, yeah, she could take that advice.
I didn't think she looked pretty at all. Well, I
means because I think she's an ugly, horrible, awful person.
Oh okay, and so it's just you know, leaking out
of her in her appearance.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
But there have been other seasons recently where she's looked worse,
like her whole head looked like a square when her
like eyebrows were apostrophes, and she did not have herself
together at.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
All because she was high on ambient, which.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Looks better now. Yeah, she got some highlights and her
eyebrows are better and she's putting some makeup on. I'm
just trying to throw a bone. You're being too nice, okay,
But anyway, so any final thoughts that we get up
on Addie.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Just I guess we'll be back next week.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I'm just exhausted a third. I'm really fatigued by this.
I'm like wondering what TLC is even thinking, like why,
who thought? What world? How did we get to let's
give them thirty episodes after last season.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I just like don't understand. I really don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
After the Christina David wedding special, I'm just like exhausted.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm like, this is so much.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Do they not care about the feedback of their fuers?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Obviously not, because they keep doing the same crap over
and over again. I'm just like, if season twenty is
thirty episodes again, it's gonna take us a whole year
to get through it. Yeah, I mean we're gonna cover it. Obviously,
we're gonna we have a job to do.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I was just sorry, that's all now. I was on
chat GPT today looking up what the most popular reality
TV recap podcasts are recapping to see if Sister Wives
even placed. It did not, but the shows that did
were like RuPaul's Drag Race, The Challenge, Team Mom, The Bachelor,
(39:08):
and I'm like, should we like switch Gears or something
Married at First Sight? Oh my god, my god, but
so boring. But I'm just like, I don't maybe there
are other shows out there that a couple of raccoons
in a dumpster should maybe focus on, which because this
is so toxic and I think production is crazy. I
(39:29):
think they're insane. There's no blueprint here, there's no logic,
no rhyme or reason, and I'm exhausted.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I just like can't imagine their editors having to go
through all of this footage and then like piece it
all together and all these different timelines, Like how do
you even keep it?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I could never.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I can't even keep it.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Could never. I mean I have put out content before
in my previous life, before I was a record you
were really famous, like yeah, and I had classes and stuff,
and I'd have to do video editing and I'd have
to like weave it all together. I mean, it's a lot,
a lot. They must have just a hundred video editors
trying to cobble this together. So it makes some kind
of sense, and no Slash, it doesn't. It doesn't make
(40:12):
any sense. Are do you ever approach the actual topics
with any kind of clarity and honesty that we want
to talk about it? Say, oh God, I need to pray.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I was wondering.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
So I was watching this like, what are we going
to do this summer. I don't think the Plaths are
coming back anytime soon. There is so much drama happening
with the Plaths. I don't know if y'all know.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I don't even know if I want to cover plathfill
if Olivia is gonna.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Be Olivia Olivia disgust vagina chest hair. He's always walking
around with like his buttons open, so it looks like
a total v for vagina, So cringe. It's so terribly bad.
And of course we know that Ethan has a girlfriend.
(41:02):
She's so pretty.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Well, but I've been on his Instagram and he deleted
all the photos of her, so I wonder if they broke.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Did he wear like a mega hat or something with
his new girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Well, I don't know. She looked like she was maybe
into the tradwife stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I don't know. I follow a little Lydia Plath. You
know she got married to that gooper, Yeah, and they
want to have babies and stuff. And then of course
there was all the drama at Lydia's wedding where Micah.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And Isaac got into it.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Isaac got into a drunk fistfight and Michael I had
to go to the hospital. His whole face was rearraised
by my on some ISYESI yeah. Then of course you've
got Kim who is a despicable alcoholic and then Barry,
who apparently, according to Veronica, Micah's ex girlfriend who left
him after that big wedding debacle. She says, Berry's a
freak yeah, and talks about reptilians and space overlords and
(41:59):
he's probably totally like in the Manno Sphere.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Probably with his non lips, taking steroids and stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
God, it could be so good, but that's another show
on TLC. Yeah that they're completely fucking up.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Oh for sure. And it's like there's so much layers
to that show and that's why we loved it. But
then it's just like we're not gonna talk about Kim Stui.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Like, God, you make it so hard DLC because you
suck yep.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
And it really is such a disservice because TLC used
to be so fucking liah and he used to platform
the worst of the worst and we used to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Now it's just like, but we never pretended that they
were great, No, we never like gave them all of
this leeway, Like Cody Brown like as if he's an
actual person with integrity who should be on a couch
talking and pontificating and lecturing us about how to be
a good per The fuck you for like call him out?
Do more, do better? It makes me mad and I'm
just I'm just screaming into the void and I'll stop now,
(42:55):
But I do have a question. Is there anything else
that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons before
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Speaker 1 (43:13):
Till the cat Well, if you thought you were bad
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start talking about Polly Family. And so we will be
back later this week to do a recap of that
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah. We are on the second of the four installments.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah. Four, we always have done four apparently, But why,
I don't know. I guess we got to watch the
same clips.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
We've got to talk about Mary being the favorite ex wife.
Nobody here.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
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Truly helps? Thank you in Bingos. All right, your takeaway,
you watched it, I assume you were conscious for the
whole thing I was, you didn't like rage, quit your
consciousness and end up teleporting to another dimension to get
away from Cody Brown. So what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, I'm loving Christine and Janelle kind of calling out
Cody a bit. That's really great. I want more of that.
And I thought Robin in particular looked really mad. I
feel like she's hiding her anger in that tense Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, it is so tight.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
She can't even watch the clips because she's so pissed off. Yeah,
and I'm kind of living for it really, Yeah, I'm like,
stay mad, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Cry harder. Yeah, I really noticed that. I'm like, what
are you bringing to the table, Robin, Like, why are
we employing you to entertain to us?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
If this is all you're doing is sitting there with
your nasty ass expression in your eyelashes and a very
resistant to answer questions, as if it's below you to
even be there, So then why are we paying? Why
do you got this two point one million dollar manch
and off of our raccoon back?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
For real?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
And you be mad?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah I noticed that as well. Yeah. My takeaway was
that I kind of like sue Kanya really suky Yes,
I saw a little bit of fire from her. She
was definitely pushing back against Cody Brown.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
God.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Yeah, the finale stare off was very awkward. That was
so crazy and super pathological, malignant narcissis performances, Yeah, which
I loved. And she sat there in the silence, she
didn't squirm. I I'm kind of writing for Fukie.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, calling him a baby yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah. Another thing I saw as I was wandering the
internets was that people were kind of coming for Christine
quite a bit, why, saying that she seems to be
still fixated on Cody and like David is sitting there
right next to her, and still she's going on and
on and on about how terrible Cody is. And I'm like,
I'm loving this version of Christine.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
This is literally her life and she's just talking about
it with her new man right there supporting her. Like
I don't I don't understand that criticism. Like Mary made
that comment too in this being like why do you
talk about Cody with David? Why do you talk about
him so much? Like because she was married to him
for twenty six years and she's on a show that's
got nineteen seasons and she's commenting on it, like, why
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would it feel like that's kind of normal?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And don't you want her to be real?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
The more that she better, says like, the better that
it is. Keeping in mind, of course, that this tell
nothing is being filled. Filmed approximately two weeks after she
filed suit, right, and so later in this episode, when
they're talking about going on double dates and Cody's like, well,
we're not healed yet, what he really means is there
(05:20):
is a pending lawsuit and there's no damn way I'm
gonna sit down at a table with that woman because
I hate her.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I think that's why he did the stare down.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yep, And I love her, and I think we're seeing
kind of this unbridled Christine. She's a bit more brave
with some of her commentary, and I just want so
much more of that. She's releasing her book this fall,
which I still have not pre ordered Why It's Your
cho But like, I hope she's bringing some of that
(05:50):
to the book.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I hope so too.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
It'd be so fun.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I hope so too. I don't want any more cryptic crap,
like just lay it on the table, say how you
really feel.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I want it with Janelle, for example, like why are
you being so careful? Like why did it take you
twenty hours to get to the sentence where you say
I just don't like them. We don't need to hear
all the equivocating, like I'm sure I have no problem
with Cody and it's not that I can't be in
the same No tell us that you hate them, I know.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And then she says I don't like them, and then
Suki's like why and she's like.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I don't know, I just don't like them, Like I mean,
just expect why do you say, Suki?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:32):
But also Suki, some of her questions were so dumb.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I know. I'm so I have a love hate relationship
with Suki because she's a terrible interviewer. She's good at
the same time, she's getting better with Cody. I just
I don't know some of the questions she asked.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I'm just like, really, you can just feel her though,
like trying to find trying a space where she can
insert a question and follow up. Yeah, Like, just dealing
with all of these people has got to be a nightmare.
She's doing pretty yeah, Okay, So those are my thoughts,
all right, those are your thoughts. Yes, let's get into
this episode. Season nineteen, episode twenty seven. This is my
(07:12):
other takeaway. I'm so fucking tired of this show, right,
this is like one of my favorite shows. I know,
we go crazy, have so much fun talking about it,
but like, I need a break.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
There's a reason breaks exist. But we've had a freaking
hiatus in the mid season and these four tell alls
and then allegedly we're gonna have season twenty in like
two months.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
I know, crackers. So we are in episode twenty seven
entitled one on one, Part two, Part two, take it Away, Beatrice.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
When we start off kind of wrapping up the conversation
about what a big giant failure code is from their faith,
which I do love. We have Christine saying, you know,
by polygamous standards, like if a man loses three of
his wives and they all leave, it's a problem with
the man, not the women every time, every single time.
(08:02):
And so I do love that little jeb to Cody
because it is the truth. It's like, it's not just
these women. If it was one woman leaving and the
rest stayed, okay, maybe it's that woman maybe, but if it's.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Three of them out of four before, Yeah, you don't
have a good drug record, and if all of their
children have a problematic relationship with you, that is also
an indication that you're the problem Cody.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Brown exactly, But he can never admit to that because
he can't look in the mirror and just be humbled.
And then we have another conversation about Janelle thinking that
Cody is playing the devil to run interference for Robin.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Right, like, intentionally villainizing himself to take the heat off
of Robin. And I think she's probably right. I think
so too, And I think the best that he can
do is this cartoonish caricature of what a devil would be.
And I think that there's nothing that he can do.
(09:02):
There's no amount of villainy that he could show us
that we'll take my attention away from Robin. Oh for sure,
because sitting there cold on the couch interview after interview segment,
she is just an evil woman in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh yeah, she does not like the other women or
Suki or Suki or production. No, she only cares about
Cody and herself and those tight curls that she's styling
in her hair. But yeah, I mean, like I can
see Cody playing this caricature of a devil to defend
Robin and to protect Robin because he does love her
(09:39):
and she is his soulmate, and like that is a
natural human thing to do, Like you want to protect
your spouse if you care about them, right, But I
think Cody is also just evil, Like I think he's
a terrible person and he's bitter and he's a narcissist.
So there's like two things going on here, Like it's
it is his ego, but he is trying to defend
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Robin in his weird way, because Robin can do no wrong.
And we've seen that theme over the last simple seasons
for sure.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
That's why we say that she's the sacred cow. She's
the untouchable person in the family exactly, and that is
how he's he's treating her. But I just felt like
him being called out for that, like that was pretty juicy.
That's Janelle kind of getting close to the soft parts
(10:28):
with him. And I just always watch these thinking to myself,
what is Cody going to think when he watches it back.
When they start this episode calling him a failure, I know,
and then they end this episode with him looking like
an absolute toddler with the stare off with Suki like
it's just.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So good, it is really good. Yes, what did you
think about Cody like addressing the camera in the scene
with his fake accountability to the og wives being like, no,
it's my fault too, I did stuff bad too.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
He was being a baby, which Suki called him appropriate.
I thought that it was not accountability, No, not at all.
Suki follows it up by saying, well, that's you being accountable. No,
it's not, because what brings him to even say it
in the first place is like, well, what do you
want me to say that? I have ownership in this too? Okay, fine,
I have ownership in this too. I was a part
of it too. Are you happy? Yeah, Suki, that's not
(11:20):
accountability all. That's somebody having a temper tantrum. That's petulance.
That's baby shit.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
And that's why I don't really like her because she
gives into that and it's like, oh, that's accountability, good job, Cody,
and it's like it's not, though, it's really fake and stupid.
And then Cody follows it up with saying, well, I
would love to have it back.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
What does that mean? What did he mean by that
he would love to have the accountability back.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
He would love to have the other women take accountability
for being terrible.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
God, yeah, that's right over my head. I'm like, what
are you even saying?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
He wants the other women to be like, you know what,
Cody's sorry, I was the worst sister wife ever. I
couldn't be like Robert. I'm sorry, fault.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, that was wild, but I do think Suki in
that moment, was trying to finesse the conversation. And with
a narc like Cody, you have to give them something,
You have to feed the ego. It's in order to
get something right from him that's honest and true, and
he's going to do it so begrudgingly, And that's what
that was. That was true him begrudgingly looking at his
wives and taking ownership. But he wasn't doing that at all.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
No, not at all. And then we have Janelle saying
for like taking forever to say that she doesn't like
Cody and Robin, but she would never really want to
hang out with them. She's like, I think she says,
I don't even want to know them, yeah, which I'm
just like, so.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Nice, I don't need it, I don't want it. I
don't like them. And of course the subtext here is
the fact that she lost her son. Yet like the
things that are going unsaid, I think are much more
compelling than the things that are being said. And so
I'm wondering about that rage that Janelle must have, oh,
(12:55):
knowing about the relationship that her son Garrison had with Cody,
which was a non relationship, knowing that Garrison was the
kid along with Gabe, or it might have just been
Garrison who called Robin and confronted her about how she
was an agent of wicked disruption and destruction in this family,
like he was the one who did that, and then
(13:16):
shortly thereafter, like he took his own life. And so
that's living inside of Janelle, and I wish we could
get more of that articulated, not necessarily specific to Garrison,
but like, give me more of what you're actually feeling.
Like right when you say, like I have no problem
hanging out with Cody, what do you mean to love?
I have any problem hanging out with the man who
(13:36):
isolated you and the man who favored another woman, and
a man who treated your kids like crap? What do
you mean I'd be okay to be in the same
room with him.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yeah, I'm really tired of like just kind of tiptoeing
around the actual truth, like we can be honest. Like
I think they think that it would be mean to
say that they just hate Robin and Cody and other
evil demons. I mean, I guess, but it's also the truth,
like just say how you feel.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I actually was wondering about that. I was wondering whether
Mary and Janelle and Christine to some extent, are being
this careful because maybe the show is tied to Cody
and Robin, and like they think, like in the back
of their mind, well, if I if I just come
right out and say all the terrible things I want
to say about these people, maybe they'd walk away from
(14:23):
the show, or maybe this show would end, And so
I kind of have to ride the lightning and just
imply how I feel.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Like. I hate that, though, but I'm like, I feel
like everybody in the world wants Cody and Robin to
be off the show. Hire them, and everyone in the
world would watch Mary and Janelle and Christine live their lives.
I mean, it might be.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Boring even if it sucked. I would watch it just
support it, and because they were off my television and
Robin exactly.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
So I just I don't know. Maybe they're also just
trying to be the bigger people, trying to be good
people and not talk shit about Cody and Robin, because
Cody and Robin have been talking mad shit about them.
But I'm just like, just stoop down a little bit, Yeah,
just be honest.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Get to the real stuff a little bit.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah, divine rage. And then we have clips of Mary's
moving day.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh my god, I had to watch that again.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
With Nate, with the awkward Mary back in that caboose
up to Cody.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And the tittering and the laughing. You have to laugh
about it in the middle school. Oh t he Oh
it was sexual, but we didn't mean it that way.
But it does make me remember that. I'm like, oh god, courage.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
The thing I loved about this though, was watching Robin
watch that clip because she couldn't even really watch it,
and she looked really mad. I feel like Robin, I
don't know, my fake psychic intuition. I feel like Robin
was super mad.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
That really happened. Yeah, Well, because obviously when Suki questions
her about it, she's just like, no, this is the
Mary and the Cody that I remember, Like they play
full and they're laughing, and that's why I was telling them, like,
are you sure you guys want to throw it all away?
Because this is who you are. Like, so she was
acting like she wasn't bothered by it. She also said
something like, well, I wasn't really thinking about it in
(16:13):
those terms at the time. Well, but yes you were.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yes, you definitely you absolutely were. You definitely were well
and especially like when you have the clips of Cody
back then and now in the tell all being like no, no, no,
but like what I have with Robin is divine and
sacred and my body is hers, and like I love
her and I don't want to ruin that. I don't
want to break that covenant.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like is that because she puts her brass knuckles one
walks in the door.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
She's just like, yeah, yeah, I think she's jealous. I
think I think Robin has always been. I think that's
why Cody cut off intimacy with all the other OG wives.
I think, like you know, part of it was Cody too,
Like part Cody probably was like I cannot do this anymore,
right not bang these women anymore. But I feel like
Robin also had a hand in it of like, but
(16:59):
what we have is to fine. I know, on's special,
and like it hurts my feelings when you have sex
with Christine, It hurts my feelings when you bump up
against Mary and that big old booty, because I don't
got a big old but you know, like I feel
like Robin says these things. Yeah, that's just my thought, though.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I wouldn't be a bit surprised. I mean I think
she was the manipulator all along, Yeah, and Cody kind
of just fell into whatever it is that she wanted
to do, yeah, and what she was orchestrating. I just
felt like this was an entirely strange segment. But what
I loved was when we cut to Christine, Yeah, because
it was in this part of this episode that Christine
really kind of unleashes on Cody and she's just like,
(17:35):
what are you doing? And they're showing or is it this?
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We ultimately get to the long trip to Prawan and
Cody saying goodbye and sobbing, and this is where Christine
calls him out for being manipulative and she's like, this
is the kind of stuff he would do is just
yank her along and hot and cold, and this is
why Mary was always so confused, and he should hold
(17:59):
a mirror to himself. Also, with Cody saying that I
want to be the one to walk Mary down the aisle,
we've got Christine saying like that is a position of honor,
and the subtextas you do not deserve that or anything else.
And furthermore, you're calling it an end of an era,
but it's an end of an era. It is an
end of a family that you brought about. Yep, you're
(18:20):
blaming everybody else, but it's you that has done all
this and now you want to cry.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I loved that. Yeah, I love that she was calling
that out because it brings a different perspective because I
think when we talked about that episode, we kind of
gave Cody a little bit of grace and we're like, oh, well,
like maybe he is genuinely sad, Like a part of
him is sad that he lost all of this, and
maybe that's true. But at the same time, like Cody
being a narcissist is totally weaponizing his tears there and
(18:46):
trying to like manipulate Mary, who quite honestly is really
easily manipulated by Cody, And like even Mary talks about
this section and says that she was super confused and
super weirded out by Cody's emotional reaction to this, and
then talks about a time where they had lunch recently.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Like two weeks previous to the filming of this Tell.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
All, and he said, like, I'm still grieving the loss
of our marriage, and Mary's just like, you don't get
to tell me that, Like, you don't get to tell
me that kind of stuff anymore, Like we are done.
Don't burden me with that. That is your own shit.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, do you not believe it?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I do, I absolutely do. But I think that Cody
was not actually grieving the loss of his marriage to
Mary in the conversation two weeks before they filmed this.
Oh yeah, I think he is manipulating in that moment
so that when they get to the tell all, Mary
is not going to tell all the truths that he
knows that she can tell. He knows Christine's showing up
because Christine just sued him, he knows that Janelle has
(19:47):
no love for him. He's hoping he can have an
ally and Mary which is why we see him continually
call her a friend. You know, we're friends.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I don't want to go over that because he's hoping
she's not going to talk shit about so he's trying
to call ahead of time, which is something Kyle Richards
does on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Like she'll send
these mass texts to different people to form alliances for
the reunion so that he's not dragged too much. That's
why he did that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That actually makes so much sense, because I kept feeling like,
even though I was happy that Mary was saying some
of these things, like Mary was saying, you know, Cody,
you don't get to burden me with your grief, like
that's your own shit, we're done. I was happy to
hear that, but at the same time, I still felt
like she was being too nice to Cody and too
nice to Robin, and like not saying the full truth
because she does have all the secrets and it is
(20:35):
really annoying that she still sees some good in Cody,
Like I don't know if I'm like, I don't know
if I should think that that's an admirable trait about
Mary that she tries to see the good in people,
or that she tries to move on and be light
and happy and not be bitter, or if I.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I think it's a weakness because I don't think she
tries to see the good in Christine. I don't think
Christine tries to see the good in Mary. She doesn't
do that with other people for whatever reason, she does
do that with Cody. Let me ask you a question though,
speaking of Cody weaponizing his tears in order to manipulate
Mary when he helped to move her to Pawan, to what end?
(21:16):
Like if he's manipulating her, what's he trying to get
out of her in that moment?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I don't know money, because wasn't Didn't she come back
after that to make the I think so payment from
Coyote Pass?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Maybe I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It gets so many episodes.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I think she did come back into town, though, and
she brought that check that could have been it.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, And I think you're right that he does need
somebody on his team because Janelle and Christine are not
going to come to his side and don't hear his
bullshit and they're done talking to him, because even Cody
says in this episode that him and Christine are not
speaking at all, not on good terms whatsoever. So yeah,
I think he probably was just like, Okay, I know
(21:58):
that I can at least manipulate Mary a little bit
to get her to be my friend.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
And let's not forget that this was filmed early October
twenty twenty four, so the majority of the episodes for
season nineteen have not aired, and none of the folks
here have seen any of the episodes, And so Mary
doesn't see how Cody continues to talk about her in
season nineteen and drag her and even in this interview,
(22:24):
the backhanded commentary that he's giving about Mary and the
other wives, like it's no, it was around Christine, but
like he's continuing to do that, but she doesn't know
it at this time. And I think this is where
her and Jen went up on their Instagram, like in
January or February of this year, after seeing Cody call
Jen and Mary's other friends a bit yeah, and Mary
(22:46):
went up on Instagram and said, if I had known
that when I sat down to film the reunion, it
would have been a different reunion. So she's trying to
play nice, and I don't know why she would After
season eighteen, I know, and all of the fuck shit
that he did. But I think she's sitting here trying
to play nice and that's why we're getting what we're
getting from Mary.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And that's the thing with Mary. It's like how many
times do you have to see this behavior from Cody
to like believe that he's a bad person? Like I
guess maybe now she sees it after the bitch.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Common But I wouldn't be a bit surprised that we're
filming for season twenty and it's gonna be the same thing.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yep, the same thing. And it's like, even in this
tall al, Cody's like going on a tirade about how
him and Mary and the rest of the wives are
never going to agree on like why things ended, and
so at least with him and Mary, they'll just like
agree to never talk about it and never deal with
it because they're just never gonna see eye to eye
because we have all of our own biases. And I'm
(23:42):
just like, well, then how can you even be friends
if you can't like be honest and authentic with each
other and you're just gonna like shove shit under the rug.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, now he wants to move on now, he doesn't
want to talk about it anywhere with Suki because he
doesn't want to have to sit in the ownership of
what he has done and what he has said against
these women and what do you done to these kids? Right,
So that's why he's just like, Okay, well I'm over it, though, Like,
why are we still talking about this? This is old shit. Sorry,
this happened just a couple of months ago. I still
pissed off about it.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
You still have to react to the shit that just
aired on TV, dude.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah, It's just crazy to me how unable they are
to sit there and watch some of these clips, Like
when we get to the clip of him meeting David, right,
the next one, let's do let's just go and.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Get to it. Yeah, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Oh well, I think it's section three or whatever. We
start with discussing Cody and Robin meeting David for the
first time at Gwen's engagement party. I think it was
the engagement party and how awkward that was. And so
Suki's approaching it with Cody kind of bringing up the subject,
and Cody just starts to talk about, oh, yeah, well,
(24:47):
you know, I didn't know if I was going to
be meeting this stood or something, and then Suki responds
and says, well, let's watch the clip, and he's like, well, no, no,
but I mean, I'm just saying that it was and
it's actually a really good conversation. And I don't know
why he was talking to in particular, but he starts
to nervously filibuster audience just to continue to talk because
he doesn't want to watch the clip because he knows
(25:09):
he comes off super awkwardly and cringey, and he doesn't
want to have to watch it back himself yeap, or
have any of us watch it either, And so he
actually tells her like, no, don't roll the clip. I've
already seen the clip. Let's just talk about it. And
they do it anyway, and so she's while he's talking,
She's just like, Okay, roll the clip, which is really great,
which was awesome and I love that, Siky, yeah, yep.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
And then we watched the clip, and like you have,
Christine and David talked about how Cody got really read
and it was like really awkward, and Christine was frustrated
because Cody last minute decided that he was going to
come to Gwen's engagement party. Even though he didn't RSVP
and this is just totally his mo o because he's
a narcissist and everything has to center around him. And
Cody's like, well, I wasn't read. I wasn't read there
(25:52):
and it was fine, and like over explains, like, no,
it was only cringey just because I felt like a
little awkward, but like it was nice because David's nice
and like I didn't feel weird around him, and it
was just weird because of Christine because I hate Christine.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Right, he said something like if we were benevolent, maybe
we would have gone out to dinner and met each
other that way, but we couldn't and we couldn't manage that,
so we did it at Gwen's and it was just
really wonderful to see him squirm like that and.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
He is coping so hard because it was awkward. Like, yeah, everyone,
everyone could cut that tension with another.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
For anybody, it would be awkward. If I were to
meet my ex husband's wife, which I've never met her,
that would be very awkward. I'd be super pretty though,
very cool, but it'd be awkward. Yeah, you can just say, yeah,
that was hella awkward. I feel weird about it. I'm
sure I came off like a bit of a clown.
I'm sorry, like that's what I do well.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And even Robin says it, like Robin's like yeah, Like
I'm sure it was awkward, especially for Christine because that's
just how divorce is. Like Robin's being real here, but
Cody's the one that's like, no, but it was that
awkward for me, Like it was fine. It was just
like a weird moment, but like I was fine, and
I wasn't written I was, I wasn't awkward.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Was so great? Did you catch though, when Robin was
lecturing us about divorce and She's like, well, I'm sorry.
You guys have children together. You guys shared a life
and you're going to have to continue to share a life.
And I immediately went to David Jessop. I know, I
immediately went to you know, the older kids and their
biological father and how they systematically removed David Jessup from
(27:27):
those kids' lives. And now you want to sit here
on the couch with your hard ass jaw and lecture
us about how to move on beyond divorce and co parent.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I know, okay, I'm like, as if you did that right?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, huh leaves.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
I can't with her. The thing that annoys me so
much about Robin is that she like acts dumb and
she acts like confused all the freaking time. I don't
think you're a sacred cow?
Speaker 1 (27:53):
How do you? How do you not know what a
sacred cow is? Didn't we learn about what a sacred
cow was when we were in elementary school, middle school,
high school. We knew about India and about Acre. We
knew what we were talking about when we use the
term sacred. So we're just gonna pretend you don't know
what a sacred cow is, Robin.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's always her thing, Yeah, just to act all confused
and like I'm innocent. I'm just buying American girl dolls
Withdelle's money.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I'm not doing anything wrong exactly. I just can't with her.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
And then we have this like weird, awkward conversation about
how like Cody would totally want to hang out with
David and he had a dirty thought that him and
David could go and take a guy dirty.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
What was happening on that guy's trip? Dirty little thoughts?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Well, he was nervous about meeting a super handsome stud.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Right, I was like, what a weird word to you,
this little freudian.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Slip a little bit, but talking about taking a guy's
trip with David, I'm like, you're so lying. I don't
know why we're even having this conversation. And then Christine's like, well, yeah,
like maybe we'd have a double date in the future,
but like right now, I don't want to deal with him.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Christine was really weird here. Well she actually says, no, yeah,
it would be okay if they want on a guy's
trip together, and David's like, yeah, we could maybe do that.
I mean there'd have to be different rules. Well, what
kind of different rules? Well, that's between me and Cody.
Also sounding kind of weird, I'm remembering that weird dance.
(29:27):
I'm remembering that weird lap dance You've got DVA. But
I mean, Christine's acting like she would be just fine
to have some sort of a blind date, not blind date,
double date with Cody and Robin sometime in the future,
but then she starts to qualify it by saying, but
not right now though, yeah, because like I would be
way too nervous and I'd be very uncomfy to have
(29:49):
to sit with them and that's because he just does
not know who I am. And we were married for
twenty six years and he has painted that a certain
way as if he doesn't know who I am, when
when I am committed to something, I'm committed one hundred percent.
She went into this weird tangent to me, like you
didn't need to really say all that. You could have
(30:10):
just said, I will never sit down and have dinner
with bumb ass Cody and problem.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I know well, And I think she was like saying
that almost like a trauma dump a little bit, because
it's obviously like a pain point, and I'm like, we
get it, Christine, like just be honest and real about it.
But maybe she's trying to be careful because of lawsuit
and she's trying to like choose her words a little carefully.
But she does say she goes on and talks about
like I don't like the way that he talks about me,
(30:35):
and I don't like the way that he thinks about me,
and so I don't want to be around that. I'm like, Okay,
that's that's it right right there.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Took us a long way to get there, pretending that
you'd allow your husband to go on a boy's trip
with Cody in his dirty little thoughts, I know.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
And then Cody talks about like, well, there would have
to be a lot of healing that would have to
occur for us to even get to that point. And
then he says like, I'm very forgiving. I'm like, okay, sure, Dan.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Well, you know he's sitting there pissed off so high
heaven because he's been sued by Christine and again his
house hasn't sold at this point. He's I mean, may
be under contract for the new mcmachin. I don't really know,
but like things are not solid for him right now,
and he's getting sued and I believe they can go
back three years for that child support based on all
(31:22):
the money that he's been making on Sister West. Till
you know, he's upset and he's pissed, and he's trying
to pretend he would hang out with David and maybe
someday hang out with Christine. But the mask starts to slip.
He's like, yeah, we're not healed though, Yeah, and she
likes to undermine me by trying to take all my money, right.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
And then Suki's just like, well, have you seen each other?
Enough to like actually do some real healing, like maybe
you should, you know, hang out and like try and heal,
and Cody just gets silent. He's just like, well, maybe
or maybe not.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
This is the weird kind of power dynamics that sometimes
emerge with Cody and other women. It's really misogynistic. It
is an attempt to be quite intimidating and or threatening.
And he seems like a little little man, like I
could just squash him if I wanted to. I'm like,
I don't know who you think you are trying to
(32:14):
intimidate you, frail, little old little peacock of a dumb.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Man straight up, I know. It's like he gives off
this energy, like how dare you even ask me? Like
I'm the King?
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Do you not know who I am? Right? I could
stand up and walk out right now, then fucking do
it and don't pay him, I know, and then fire him.
Why are we having Robin again? I ask again, Like
she's giving absolutely nothing. She's unwilling to even watch the clips.
Why are we employing these people?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
And that is also really weird because I don't remember
last year she was watching the clips last year, but
this year she's just looking down the entire time, and
it has like nothing.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
To say because we validated them by giving them thirty
episodes in season nineteen, so they must thought to themselves, Oh,
this this stuff that I'm doing, this villain stuff that
I'm doing, Like I don't have to show up one
hundred percent, I don't have to let them film in
my house, and I got thirty episodes. So this is
what they're thinking, and this is the perfect time to
lower the boom and fire their.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Asses, right, But we're not going to.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Or fucking cancel Sister Wives. Just people talking.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
About that, but we're not. We're gonna get season twenty.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
So Cody just sits there and says maybe not, like
I don't know if I want to heal or whatever,
and Sukie's just like, well, why don't you meet Christine
where she's at? And this is the last part of
the episode where Cody just looks at her and stares
at her silently like a psychopath and goes something like
this picks off a piece of hair all dramatically. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
She's like, what is that supposed to mean? Is that
symbolic of something? He's like, no, just a hair I'm
picking it off. I just want to condescend I I.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Just want to beat him up. I'm sorry, I shouldn't
say that. Legally that's a joke, but like, I just
want to do unspeakable thanks to this man.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Why I hate them so much? And I usually watch
each episode twice and it is so difficult for me
to take a second pass with some of these episodes.
I just can't stand them so deeply, so deeply all
the way into my butt for angry and mad at
these people are real.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
It's terrible. And then we get to the preview, and
so the next couple tell alls we're gonna talk about
Coyote Pass.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
We could have done this in one tell all, but no,
we go we.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Talk about Coyote Pass, and Janelle says something like Cody
always seems to.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Come out ahead because he's selfish.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
And he's also been financially abusing everybody right taking that
the money.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
That's the truth.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And then we have another conversation about the luggage rack metaphor,
which we talked about before, and it's how a metaphor
for their marriages and blah blah blah. Then we're gonna
ask Robin the stupidest question ever. Does he put your
luggage on the luggage rack in a hotel?
Speaker 1 (34:57):
What do we think the answer is going to be.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
She's gonna be like, no, it's Cody, and.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
Cody's gonna be like, absolutely, Idea, that's my wife because
I'm a gentleman and my entire identity is being her
mea exactly yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
And then we have Christine saying something like appearance has
always mattered the most to Cody, and like he started
focusing more on what everybody else was saying in the
world instead of focusing on the inside and being a
good person. And then we have Mary making a comment
about Christine and like why does she have to talk
about Cody all the time? To David, Like, Mary, why
(35:31):
don't you just shut up?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, you're not a girl's girl. No, you're not a
girl's girl.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Maybe stop simping for Cody please, And then we have
Cody calling the rumor about Robin and him only wanting
each other just internet bs, right, so I'm like, oh,
so you are reading they twitting Hi, Hi, we hate you.
(35:55):
And then we have Janelle saying Cody has to justify
all of the reasons why Robin is so perfect to him,
which I love the little digs. And then we have
to ask Robin again, would you consider polygamy?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
We've already done this.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
How many times would we have to?
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And then we referenced it through flashbacks already.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
And we all know no matter what she says, they
will never be polygamists ever again.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
If I could get a guarantee bullshit that it would
work out, then yeah, I'd be open to it. Fuck you,
Fuck you.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
You're the one who.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Ruined these families and these relations.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
You literally stole Cody away from his entire family.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, you're the reason there's no guarantee women like you.
Speaker 2 (36:37):
Yep, because you're an evil snake.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yep. You're an awful person.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, with a hard job.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Sorry, I thought she looked kind of pretty.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Not that we'd need to comment on people's appearances, but
we will. Oh, but I thoughtually looked kind of pretty,
Sutch and she smiles. I think, oh my gosh, you
should smile more. First of all, because your mouth is
literally trendly like it's it's the gravitational pull of your
mouth line and stuff is going down to your boobs
and stuff. It's like really bad. It's like a muppet.
(37:09):
It's super bad. These are called marionette lions, Robin, and
you want to probably get those fields or something. Anyway,
I'm just saying smile more, But then I sound like
those toxic men are just like, why don't you smell more? Yeah,
but I mean it looks pretty. Smile more.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And Robin's case though, yeah, she could take that advice.
I didn't think she looked pretty at all. Well, I
means because I think she's an ugly, horrible, awful person.
Oh okay, and so it's just you know, leaking out
of her in her appearance.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
But there have been other seasons recently where she's looked worse,
like her whole head looked like a square when her
like eyebrows were apostrophes, and she did not have herself
together at.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
All because she was high on ambient, which.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Looks better now. Yeah, she got some highlights and her
eyebrows are better and she's putting some makeup on. I'm
just trying to throw a bone. You're being too nice, okay,
But anyway, so any final thoughts that we get up
on Addie.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Just I guess we'll be back next week.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I'm just exhausted a third. I'm really fatigued by this.
I'm like wondering what TLC is even thinking, like why,
who thought? What world? How did we get to let's
give them thirty episodes after last season.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
I just like don't understand. I really don't understand it.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
After the Christina David wedding special, I'm just like exhausted.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm like, this is so much.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Do they not care about the feedback of their fuers?
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Obviously not, because they keep doing the same crap over
and over again. I'm just like, if season twenty is
thirty episodes again, it's gonna take us a whole year
to get through it. Yeah, I mean we're gonna cover it. Obviously,
we're gonna we have a job to do.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I was just sorry, that's all now. I was on
chat GPT today looking up what the most popular reality
TV recap podcasts are recapping to see if Sister Wives
even placed. It did not, but the shows that did
were like RuPaul's Drag Race, The Challenge, Team Mom, The Bachelor,
(39:08):
and I'm like, should we like switch Gears or something
Married at First Sight? Oh my god, my god, but
so boring. But I'm just like, I don't maybe there
are other shows out there that a couple of raccoons
in a dumpster should maybe focus on, which because this
is so toxic and I think production is crazy. I
(39:29):
think they're insane. There's no blueprint here, there's no logic,
no rhyme or reason, and I'm exhausted.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I just like can't imagine their editors having to go
through all of this footage and then like piece it
all together and all these different timelines, Like how do
you even keep it?
Speaker 1 (39:45):
I could never.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I can't even keep it.
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Could never. I mean I have put out content before
in my previous life, before I was a record you
were really famous, like yeah, and I had classes and stuff,
and I'd have to do video editing and I'd have
to like weave it all together. I mean, it's a lot,
a lot. They must have just a hundred video editors
trying to cobble this together. So it makes some kind
of sense, and no Slash, it doesn't. It doesn't make
(40:12):
any sense. Are do you ever approach the actual topics
with any kind of clarity and honesty that we want
to talk about it? Say, oh God, I need to pray.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I was wondering.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
So I was watching this like, what are we going
to do this summer. I don't think the Plaths are
coming back anytime soon. There is so much drama happening
with the Plaths. I don't know if y'all know.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I don't even know if I want to cover plathfill
if Olivia is gonna.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Be Olivia Olivia disgust vagina chest hair. He's always walking
around with like his buttons open, so it looks like
a total v for vagina, So cringe. It's so terribly bad.
And of course we know that Ethan has a girlfriend.
(41:02):
She's so pretty.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Well, but I've been on his Instagram and he deleted
all the photos of her, so I wonder if they broke.
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Did he wear like a mega hat or something with
his new girlfriend?
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Well, I don't know. She looked like she was maybe
into the tradwife stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
I don't know. I follow a little Lydia Plath. You
know she got married to that gooper, Yeah, and they
want to have babies and stuff. And then of course
there was all the drama at Lydia's wedding where Micah.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
And Isaac got into it.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Isaac got into a drunk fistfight and Michael I had
to go to the hospital. His whole face was rearraised
by my on some ISYESI yeah. Then of course you've
got Kim who is a despicable alcoholic and then Barry,
who apparently, according to Veronica, Micah's ex girlfriend who left
him after that big wedding debacle. She says, Berry's a
freak yeah, and talks about reptilians and space overlords and
(41:59):
he's probably totally like in the Manno Sphere.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Probably with his non lips, taking steroids and stuff.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
God, it could be so good, but that's another show
on TLC. Yeah that they're completely fucking up.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Oh for sure. And it's like there's so much layers
to that show and that's why we loved it. But
then it's just like we're not gonna talk about Kim Stui.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Like, God, you make it so hard DLC because you
suck yep.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
And it really is such a disservice because TLC used
to be so fucking liah and he used to platform
the worst of the worst and we used to enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Now it's just like, but we never pretended that they
were great, No, we never like gave them all of
this leeway, Like Cody Brown like as if he's an
actual person with integrity who should be on a couch
talking and pontificating and lecturing us about how to be
a good per The fuck you for like call him out?
Do more, do better? It makes me mad and I'm
just I'm just screaming into the void and I'll stop now,
(42:55):
But I do have a question. Is there anything else
that we need to say to these beautiful raccoons before
we get up on ad here be in realm?
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Well, if you love our podcast, please go to your
favorite podcast platform and leave us a glowing five star review.
It really helps us grow the pod so more people
can join us in the dumpster, and we really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (43:13):
Till the cat Well, if you thought you were bad
about Sister Wives, you going be even madder when we
start talking about Polly Family. And so we will be
back later this week to do a recap of that
shit show Free. Oh my god, that shit show. So
please come back for that, and until then, do not
forget that we have nothing but love for you
Speaker 2 (43:32):
And please a mighty by guys,
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