255: Sister Wives Recap - One on One Part Three (S19 E28) - Reality TV Cringe

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
That's me.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
We are here to talk sister Wivesney the Never Ending
Season nineteen. Yeah, and I can't believe we're here again.
I feel like we've been here for lo these many years.
I think we have languishing in the same season. Yeah,
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appreciate it. Now, before we get into this recap, I
have to ask you, Patress, what was your takeaway after

(02:21):
watching the third installment of the one on ones.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I just can't believe we're talking about the luggage wreck again.
I mean, how many times do we have to like,
go over it? We get it.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
It's a symbol of the marriages.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
We understand. Yes, And my other takeaway is that I'm guy,
we're finally talking about finances and like intimacy a little
bit sort of. I mean, yeah, but like we're getting
some like little tidbits here and there, like Mary with
her accountant and stuff like that. I think that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, I mean, but it's so surface level so as
to simply piss me off because it's not substantive enough.
And I want to know more and they know that
I want to know more and they're not giving me more.
But it is the Brown so yeah, and it's TLC
and it's Puddle Monkey the production House. Yeah. Now, my
main takeaway was that, like I feel as if I'm

(03:13):
on a roller coaster with Mary Brown. Like sometimes I'm like, yes, Mary, yes, queen,
you're almost there, You're worthy of Yeah, And then the
very next week she's throwing the women under the bus again,
or she's bitter, or she's being a little judgy or petty.
And in this episode, in this time Nothing, I thought

(03:34):
she was doing a lot of that, oh for sure.
And she was talking about Christine, talking about Cody or
the luggage rack. She seemed to think that that was
super petty and people shouldn't be comparing and she was
very judging, and I'm like, but Mary, this is a
show right about y'all, right, and you're gonna be asking
or getting fielding questions about y'all. I agree, Cody's the patriarch,

(03:58):
and Cody's the problem is the malignancy, and so of
course Christine is going to speak on it. So it
just felt like she's not a girl's girl. She's still
trying to defend Cody for some reason. She looks stupid.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I know.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I'm embarrassed a little bit, Like you called her pathetic
a few weeks ago, and like she really does sometimes
come off as pathetic, Like why are you still being
so diplomatic with these a holes? I don't deserve it.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
I just don't get it, Like you can not like Christine,
or you cannot like have a relationship with Christina or
Janelle but still understand like their perspectives about something like
the luggage rack or whatever. Like I just didn't understand
why she's like quick complaining, stop complaining. I'm like, you're rude, dude.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, And at least they're doing it with their own mouths,
whereas you need your rando friends to get in front
of cameras to do to the complaining that you actually
want to do, but don't have the guts to do,
And it really pissed me off when at the top
of this episode, she's like, well, I don't know who
to trust, Like should I trust Cody and Robin? They're

(05:05):
telling me that Janelle is the one who does the money,
or should I trust Janelle? Because she's saying that it's
Cody and Robin. I'm like, Mary Brown, do you have
eyeballs either head or what? Have you gone over to
their house and seeing the phoenix rising from the ashes?
Have you seen all the artwork? Did you see the
American girl dolls? Did you see the amethyst crystal wing? Like,

(05:26):
come on, Mary.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
It's like, how many examples do you need to finally
get that Cody and Robin are terrible people, Like she
just still thinks that they like have good intentions sometimes.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I know, and I don't understand it. And I was
thinking that maybe it was because at the time that
this was being filmed, Coyote Pass was still unresolved, So
maybe she's thinking, oh, I should err on the side
of just not dragging them to filth me because maybe
he'll make it hard for me to get my money.
But at the same time, I'm like, what are you
even talking about? You knew that Jane was in an RV, right,

(06:01):
you knew that Janelle didn't have a place, right, Like
you could see the disparity between the two folks, and
I'm just like, I don't understand you, and I didn't
like it. I agree, And so that was my takeaway.
All right, So why don't we get into the recap again.
We are in season nineteen. This was episode twenty eight

(06:22):
eight twenty eight, twenty eight of the One on one Yeah,
Part three, Yes, So take it away, Beatrice.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well, we start off the conversation talking about some juicy stuff.
I think about Coyote Pass, and this leads into like
a bigger conversation about how nobody trusts each other, how
finances were managed and mismanaged throughout the years, and Cody
says some bullshit, Christine says some bullshit. It's actually pretty good.

(06:52):
But we start off with Coyote Pass. Suki asks Mary,
you know what the heck is going on with this
Land's like, well, it's been paid off, but we're still
trying to figure out how to legally divide everything so
everybody gets their fair share. And then we watch a
clip where we have Cody, I think, talking to that

(07:12):
weird Rando realtor on Coyote Pass and talking about how,
you know, legally he doesn't need anybody else's permission to
figure out how to divide everything, but he's trying to
figure it out to be fair because he's such a
nice guy. Yeah, And this kind of pisses off Mary
a little bit, right, but she kind of agrees with
it at the same time because it's Mary, Well.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
She has to admit that she was stupid. Yeah, and
irrespective of the fact that she I assume contributed equally
to Coyote Pass, she allowed for her name to be
listed on only one plot along with two other people.
So she ends up only owning thirty three percent of

(07:54):
one plot out of four. So that was stupid yeap
for a grown asque woman. That was stupid for a
business woman who's in the process of worthying up yeap.
And so while she's upset that he says that he
doesn't need permission, she has to admit that he's right
because she allowed it to happen.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yep. And this gets into the conversation about how they
just don't trust each other because Cody says that the
other wives don't trust him because they want to get
alimony and they're pissed off that they can't get alimony. Yeah,
and that's his justification for why Janelle and Mary feel
the way that they do. Well, they just can't get
alimony out of me, that's why they don't trust me.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Yeah, so they're trying to get something. And I just
thought to myself, what would have happened after he went
and protested for rights for polygamist families, Like if he
were able to actually marry Janelle, Christine and Mary, they
would have been entitled to some alimony and even child support,
and he would have been made to pay under the

(08:54):
laws that he would have wanted to create. But now
that they're gone and he's got his McMansion and now
he's got his McMansion number two, he's like, yeah, well,
they're just trying to get something out of me. Well,
of course they are. Of course, she was married to
you for thirty three years. She's entitled to something. This
is the very least of what she is entitled to.
And Mary goes on to say, well, I contributed just
as much, and I wonder if she contributed even more

(09:16):
to this family has anybody else? And she didn't come
right out and say but I didn't receive an equal measure,
but that was kind of the subtext. Oh definitely, And
this is where we get into you know, I even
had to get my accountant and my books and sit
down with Cody and Robin. Yeah, so not just Cody
and show them, Look, this is how much money I've

(09:37):
paid into the family. And they were surprised, and I
guess after that they stopped complaining about it. I really
wish Sukie would have said, well what led to that, though, right,
Like what led you to have to sit down and
show your books? Were they accusing you of something? And
if so, what were they accusing you of? But we
never get into any of that information unfortunately.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
I mean Mary kind of alludes to it where she's like,
I think maybe Cody and Robin thought I wasn't contributing
equally and then they were surprised, like she actually says,
they were surprised that she was contributing way more than
they thought to the family plot, which is just interesting
to me because then we get into not just.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
The family plot, but like to the family because she
was helping to pay for all of those kids to
go to school. Yeah, I mean the ones that did.
A lot of kids went into the military. But like,
she was contributing to Janelle's kids and Christine's kids, and
I assume Robin's kids. But then she lets us know
once again.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
That she had to pay for Leon's college and Leon's
car and everything. But then we have Cody saying that
once the older kids all went off to college and everything,
nobody contributed to the younger kids, which means Robin's kids.
So therefore the whole family has to still pay for
Robin and her children.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
So is that why he's stealing all this money so
that he can make them pay for his kids.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
I think he's trying to justify it, like because on
its face, objectively, we all know that Cody and Robin
have been stealing money from the family plot allegedly in
our opinion. In our opinion, they have been stealing from
all of these women and stealing from all these other kids.
I mean, look at their mansion allegedly. I mean, yeah,
like their bankroppers allegedly. But you know, Cody, I think,

(11:22):
is trying to spin it like, oh, the other wives
were actually the selfish ones, they only cared about themselves.
They didn't contribute to Robin's house. Like he says something
like the first corporate paycheck that hit their account, Robin
didn't get any of it.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
Yeah, but the family had to pay her debt. Though
the family had to pay for her townhouse. Hello, the
family was probably paying to relocate her though, and they
didn't really have the fluidity to do that. In season one,
Remember when they get to Vegas and they're trying to
get their first rentals in Vegas. It's Janelle, It's like,
I can barely feed my kids. Yep, So this TLC
money isn't that great and we still have to support

(12:01):
this vagabond Robin for real, And that's why you didn't
get the first corporate check. But like, how is that distributed?
Is that the first season's corporate check?

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Right?

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Is it the first episodes corporate check?

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Like did she then get episode two, three, four, five, six,
and seven, and eight? Like, come on, Cody, I know
he's just trying to spin his obfuscating and he's not.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Telling us the full truth because if the full truth
came out, like it would prove that him and Robin
were stealing everything allegedly, so it's just like so messed up.
And this gets into a greater conversation about money and management,
because again Cody is running with the narrative that it
was Janelle's fault, that Janelle was the one that was

(12:40):
in control of all the mass it's so messed up,
like she was the one that mismanaged everything, and he
says something like, you know, I don't know where money
was going. Money was going to pay off certain things
when I thought it was going to pay off other things.
And again he's just trying to undermine Janelle, which Janelle
talks about. She's like, this is Cody's m O, Like

(13:01):
he knows all of our weaknesses. He knows that for me,
financial security is a big thing. I mean, hello, Taurus,
Like I want to be stable. I want to be
stable my material wealth. And so he's hitting her where
it hurts the most and insinuating that she's dumb and
doesn't know how to manage finances well.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
But he's also trying to take the heat off of
his Emily because they're also having conversations where they're saying
that Cody had the discretion to move money around and
give it to a wife if she needed it at
a certain time, and so like he could actually look
at what was in I assume the family LLC and
then allocate funds from there. And here's where, you know,

(13:41):
even though I just ragged on Mary for not necessarily
trusting Janelle over Cody and Robin, like, we do have
to admit though, that at the very least, Janelle was
the bookkeeper.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
She saw the taxes and the preparation for the taxes,
She saw the LLC funds. She knew what was coming in.
We also know that she knew how it was being
moved around, because last season she was the one who said, like,
I see the money, and I see what they're paying for,
and there's no reason we can't be paying off Coyote
Pass right now. So we know that Janelle knows these things,

(14:15):
and yet she never did send up the flare and
let Mary know, Hey, just FYI, this is how much
we get. But this is how much he's using to
pay for his Deckenzian village and for her American girl dolls,
and this is how much is being allocated to the
different wives, and it is unfair. She never told Christine
because Christine tells us that Janelle was very tight lipped,

(14:36):
and so as much as we live Janelle, and I'm
sure it was a burden for her to do the books.
At the same time, you should have been letting everybody
know that there was a problem in the Brown LLC
and that Cody was being unfair. But maybe, and I'm
just floating this to you, maybe Janelle was a benefactor
of those funds, maybe because Cody had discretion to give

(14:59):
a wife a little bit more. Maybe she got a
little bit more than Mary did, and she knew it,
and even more than Christine did, and she knew it,
and so that's why she didn't say anything. What do
you think about that?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Maybe, I mean, I could see that as a possibility.
But like Mary talks about how she got in trouble
for talking about like how things were being allocated, and
like got in trouble for talking about how Coyote Pass
was divided, and I think Janelle talks about it too,
Like she got in trouble for talking about like where
things were going, or commenting about how much money Cody

(15:33):
and Robin were spending. So maybe that's why she's so
tight lipped. Maybe that's why she didn't tell the og
wives because she was gonna get in trouble.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
But don't you think she had a duty to don't
you think as the record keeper and the bookkeeper and
Cody is implying she had more of a hand, and
they're like how they creatively handled money? Like yeah, but
I think, don't you think she had a duty to
tell the other wives? Maybe not Robin, but Mary and
Christine I kind of do.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean, yeah, like morally, I think you had a duty.
I would have said that, Like if I was a
part of this family, I would have been like, Yo,
this is what's happened.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
She told me, Yeah, like this day, were funneling all
this money out of the LLC.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
That's what I would have done. I would have done
that this second. I saw that stuff happening when Robin
came into the picture. But at the same time, like
I think in the earlier seasons, Janelle was like a
totally different person. She was so much more subdued and
like more in secure. I would argue about like maybe
her place in the family or like maybe her own
finances and stuff, and she was just worried about like

(16:29):
I've got a work. I mean back in like season one,
season two, Sea said three, She's the only one with
like an external paycheck. Everybody else is dependent on TLC.
Like Cody was in sales but then he quit it for.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Tal right, he was selling signs Honey and Cody wyoming,
and Robin was racking up all that Victoria's secret dead, right,
So like nobody was doing anything.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
I mean, I don't want to shit on like Christine
or Mary. I think Mary was like doing.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Something hard time job.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
She liked to work with kids, Yeah, but like why
didn't you have a full time sorry? Right, But Christine
was like mothering all of the children, so that full
time job in and of itself. So like Janelle was
the only one with all of that on her shoulders.
So I want to give her that credit. But I
could see your theory.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Too well, And I'm just saying that maybe that's why
Mary has a little bit of a problem, because historically
she knows that Janelle had the information. But then we
cut to Christine, yeah, to ask for her opinion on
what she thinks Cody's going to end up doing with
regard to Coyote Pass, and she's the one who says
what we all are thinking, which is, oh, he's going

(17:32):
to screw them. Oh like he's greedy when it comes
to money. He's never fair and he's not going to
give them their fair share, which made me wonder as
I was watching, like, does Cody see this footage before
we do? Like, is he does he have like any
editorial power with production where he can see what these

(17:53):
other women are saying and maybe get some things to
be cut out. Or what if Cody saw them say
that and then said, Okay, well I better make sure
that I divvy this up fairly because they're calling me
out and Christine is saying I'm not going to because
I'm greedy.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
I don't know. I mean that would imply that Cody
would have some semblance of self reflection or like a
little bit of a moral compass, because I feel like
he really is as selfish as Christine and Janelle are
saying he is. Because after Christine says that like Janelle
and Mary are gonna get screwed, Janelle says something like,
you know, every time Cody is in a financial deal

(18:31):
or whatever, he always ends up on top. He always
ends up with more. He always is looking out for himself,
and now he's looking out for himself and Robin. So
that's all he cares about, right. I don't think he
gives a shit about Janelle or Mary or Christine at
all except for what they're saying about him because it
hurts his egos.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
And the kind of light that will shed on a
current lawsuit that he is in. Because again, Christine at
the time of this filming, has just sued him for
child support. Yes, child support that is retroactive for three years.
This is child support that will take into account however
much money they are siphoning away from that Brown LLC

(19:09):
so that she can take her cut. So, like, he's
mindful that there's already an active lawsuit and he knows
that these women might sue him for coyote pass. And
so I'm just wondering if this ultimately incentivizes him to
do the right thing, even though maybe he didn't want
to do it inside of his heart, his cold dead, demonic,
black heart.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I mean, it should, It should light a fire under
his ass, It should make him do the right thing.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Because he should do that anyway.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yes, but yeah, I could definitely see that, like him
finally doing the right thing because he sees this and
realizes that he's in deep shit and he needs to
get this office plate because honestly, he does, How are
you gonna pay for that? Mcmanchon if you've got a
bunch of lawyer fees?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm still wondering
about that, me too. And it's through these conversations about
Cody and being greedy and constantly being out for himself
that we get into Neil's observation around narcissism, and she
calls out Cody's propensity to love bomb and then for

(20:09):
there to be issues and conflict and there's a dip
in the relationship and then he comes back in and
he love bombs, which is indicative of somebody with narcissism,
and so Suki tries to dive a little bit more
deeply into that, and she's like, look, I'm not a psychologist.
I'm not here to diagnose people, but I'm like, draw
your own conclusions.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Yeah, like I can see the patterns. Yeah, And that
was really great, and I think Christine also echoes this
like he's super selfish, he only takes care of himself.
And then this gets into a conversation about intimacy, which
was really interesting with Christine. This is really sad, but
it was really interesting to hear her speak about it
because we haven't really like talked about it in this

(20:49):
in depth before. But Christine talks about her and Cody's socialoge.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Oh god, which I just Mormon love.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Oh my god, all that's soaking.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Oh God, stop it with their more magical underwear and everything.
Oh man.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
But apparently, according to Christine, in the beginning of their relationship,
it was fine. It's it was okay, it was man.
She was taken care of, at least according to Christine.
But as the years rolled on, and especially once Cody
married Robin, it really declined. Christine. According to her, when

(21:31):
Cody married Robin, her and Cody were like already pretty
much over, but they were kind of hanging on, you know,
probably for the family and for the kids and stuff
like that. But their sex life got really bad, to
the point where they were only screwing five times a year, yikes.
And they were basically just using each other ew for
a physical need. And then you know, Cody stopped taking

(21:55):
care of her in general, emotionally, financially physical glee, Like,
he stopped altogether. She was completely independent, and then she
talks about. You know, when she left Cody, she was
gonna fook her new man before marriage because she had
to make sure that he was attracted to her sexually valid.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Yeah. Fair, Yeah. I remember when I was setting out
into my new life. After I graduated high school, I
moved out. I was a missionary. Okay, graduated high school.
I became a missionary. I was with Ywham Youth with Emissions.
I traveled to the South Pacific a day and met
a boy. Started fooling around a little bit with that boy.

(22:38):
It was a complete virgin and everything like that. But
I came back and then I met within a few
months my first husband. And I remember my mom telling me, like,
I will not give you my blessing unless you move
in with him first and have lots of sex. I
do not marry anybody without sampling the d hunting. Make
sure it's good, make sure you like it. Make sure

(22:59):
he takes care of you, because if he doesn't, it
is not worth it. Don't do it, wow, doubt And
so I made sure that I did. I absolutely, Oh
my god, you cannot say that, kid, that's for the
vip matri mine.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
That's fine, Like those are the types of things we
talk about and our uncensored bits on Patreon, but like
she wanted to make sure that I didn't enter in
blindly to a situation that I would regret later on.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, and so I did, And so I can really
feel Christine here. She's like, no, I need to make
sure he's actually going to be able to get it
up for me totally, that he's attracted to me, because
Cody made it very clear that I was revolting to
him when I ate nachos, and that like he didn't
find me physically attractive, and that was so painful.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
And this was something that Christine talks about was like
her biggest I don't want to say like weakness, but
like her biggest like sensitivity point that Cody uses this
against all the wives, like I think earlier we forgot
to talk about it. Cody undermines Janelle and her finances
and like how she manages fanitce is because that's really

(24:08):
important to her, that's her biggest insecurity. So he attacks that.
He attacks Christine's biggest insecurity, which is him not being
physically attracted to her, which I think would be a
lot of people's biggest insecurity and so this is cody'smo
and this is also a pattern of why he's a
narcissistic legendly because he loved bombs and he attacks people

(24:29):
with the biggest point, and this is how he manipulates
people and emotionally abuses them. Right, And it made me wonder, like,
what was Mary's weakest point?

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Hmm, Yeah, we didn't talk about that.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
He didn't talk about Mary's and like what he uses
against her, But maybe it's because she is so desperate
for love and like desperate for his love, and so
maybe he weaponizes that, probably because that's her biggest like
weak spot, because I swear it's like we talked about this.
I think last week, like if Cody's just nice to.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Mary, she will take him.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
She will just praise him no matter what and think
that he's so great. She doesn't care about anybody else.
I don't understand it. I don't understand what she sees
in him, right, But I guess because they were each
other's first loves and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
No, but I think that's a really good point. I
think that maybe that was Mary's weakness was loneliness and
a need for companionship, which is just like a basic
human need. That's something that we all wanted, just to
love and to be loved. That is what she wanted
and expected in the relationship, and that is absolutely what
he withheld from her and probably made her to feel
like she did not deserve it because of the things

(25:36):
that she did, because she talks in this episode about
how she has carried guilt for other people, like always
had to apologize for things or like try to take
somebody's pain onto herself and say I'm sorry, And that
just echoed to me back to like the catfish and
to that betrayal that Cody is still trotting out to
try and use against her, so as if he cares,

(25:57):
I think with Mary it might have been that been
the desperation for some kind of a connection that he weaponized.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
And see and like, if Mary could get along with Christine,
they could really commiserate right there, because I feel like
Christine is very similar ver much. I mean hers was
more about like the physical intimacy and stuff like that
and the romance, but like it's still that you want
that companionability. You want to feel like your partner loves
and desires you. And I feel like if Mary could
just get her the stick out of her ass, like

(26:25):
maybe her and Christine could be friends, But I digress.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I think that ship has sailed.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, I agreed, And then we get into more of
a detailed conversation about PDA and making out with people.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Listen, is this the part where we had to watch
the clips of the compilation Christinea and David making out
like over and over and over again. I just had
to go limp. I had to vacate my body, my consciousness,
had to leave the earth plane and travel anywhere where.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
I didn't have to hear.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
And see that.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I know, Like we didn't have to have the sound
of that at all.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Oh god, no, I didn't.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
We didn't need to hear that. And honestly, I wanted
to forget about all of that because we talked about
this many months ago, Yes, when we covered these episodes.
Y how cringe Christine was with just making out with
David all the time, and like, look, we're happy for her,
that's great, but it has been a lot. Yeah, it
has been a lot of PDA.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
And even Janelle's like, yeah, like that's great at all,
but I don't necessarily want to hear all those noises
and even my kids are like, that's a lot, mom,
It is a lot. And in the moment with Suki,
it seems like Christine and David are aware that it's
a bit cringe, and so she's a little bit embarrassed,
although David's like, I love it. Yeah, I love the
lap dance too, and she's like, oh, David.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
No, no, I'm so glad they didn't show that.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
But you know he wanted to talk about it more.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, because he loved that. I'm sure he loved it,
which one both maybe he plays for both David, but
gets into a conversation about like PDA and how they
couldn't really show a lot of PDA in their plural
marriages and that this was kind of a rule that
they established.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Early on before Robin, before.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Robin, which Robin talks about how she wasn't really fond
of that.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
But she did not have a choice and she was
told force. She had to conform. Yeah, she had no
say it's so awful, and Sukie asks her, well, who
told you that? She's like, I don't want to. I
don't want to say.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I don't want to name names.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
It's Christine.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
You think it's Christine.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
I do think it's Christine because then they panned to
Christine and Christine's like, yeah, like you need those kinds
of rules though in polygamy, because if one marriage isn't
really working out and then you see your husband having
affection with another wife, like it's it's really hard. And
so I do think it was probably Christine, maybe a
little bit of Mary, because Janelle is like, I didn't care. Yeah,

(28:54):
like they can make out. That's fine, that's they're married.
And I understand that, right.

Speaker 3 (28:58):
I think it was probably Mary and Christine because I
think Mary probably didn't like it either. I mean, but
then Cody says some shit about how Janelle's mom came
to him early on in their marriage and said, hey,
quit making out with Mary in front of Janelle because
it makes her feel bad. But then you have Janelle
saying I never cared, and.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
She doesn't seem like the type who would have cared.

Speaker 3 (29:21):
No, not at all. Yeah, because she knew that they
had other marriages. She even says that she's like, of course,
like I expected that. I feel like Janelle, out of
all of them, didn't care at all. But I think
when Robin came into the picture and the other wives
like Mary and Christine saw how much in love Cody
was with Robin, and that's obvious, Like you don't have

(29:43):
to kiss and everything for people to like, you know,
just by how they hold each other.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
It's a vibe.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
It's a vibe check check crime check, So like they know.
I think that was probably what the conversations were. But
then we have Cody bringing up a story that he
doesn't want to talk about out, but he's going to
talk about it a little bit anyway, so that way
we all wonder about it, about how him and Robin
didn't feel safe to show their affection in the family

(30:12):
because of something that happened that was so awful and
so traumatic apparently, but he won't say about what. He
won't say about.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Who, only that it caused them to be kicked out
of the family.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Hicked out of the family. What does that mean?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I don't know. I think what caused you to be
kicked out of the family is your destructive and damaging
behavior and the way that your wife has isolated you
away from the rest of your wives and your children.
That's what caused there to be an estrangement. But like
really got me thinking he's either straight up lying. He's
just saying that because he wants people to think that

(30:49):
they're victims as usual or there's something that happened, but
when it's not something that I've seen in any of
the seasons that I've watched. But in the back of
my mind, I keep thinking about mchael no longer talking
to Cody and Robin because of something that happened at
the funeral, right, And I can't imagine that.

Speaker 4 (31:10):
They would be like Maine out right at Garrison's gravesite
or something, but I can see a world, especially when
you have them riding on the same horse and she's like,
oh my god, he's such a rancher and a cowboy.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Are like trying to be a little bit extra in
terms of the PDA. Like what if they were doing
that around the time of the funeral and it was
just like way too fucking much for the family and
they're like, that's it. I've had enough of you a holes.
I never want to see you again.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I could see that one hundred percent, I mean, but
Cody says that he can't show affection in front of
Mary and Janelle with Robin until they're married off. So
something happened with those two is what he's implying. But
I don't know, maybe he's just lying.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I think he's probably lying.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
He's gotta be.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
But if he's not lying, it feels like it's something
that's more recent than something that happened a long long
time ago.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
That would make sense.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
But I don't know, what does everybody think, because let's
workshop this and try to put our little raccoon heads
together figure it out. Yeah, to see what happened.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
But I'm just like, screw you, Cody, Why are you
bringing up a story? And I'm not saying I don't
want to talk about it, like talk about start stirring
the pot and starting drama. And then you want to
say some bullshit like well, the world just hates true love.
Right when you're in love, you are subject to so much.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I'm like, shut up, get this man off of my television.
He is so rude, he is so dismissive of Suki.
I actually felt like it was a little triggered for
Suki because it was like she was dealing and she
knew she was dealing with an abuser, like trying to
have a conversation and we talked about this last week. Yeah,

(32:56):
but just trying to finesse like a way in to
keep that person talking and expressing themselves without like also
activating this irrational part of them that causes them to
lash out, which Cody the way he looks at her
like he's just like, I think that's all I want
to say about that. It's so aggress Oh my god,

(33:18):
sit across from me and try to speak to me
that way, you fucking piece of shit. See how that
goes for you, my guy, it ain't gonna go very well.
Like the self control that Suki has when he's being
so disrespectful is out of this world. Props to Suki
for that, because I would have just been cursing that
small little man. And now he's taping up the tendrils.

(33:39):
Did you notice that side bar hood is because you
before we have the tendrils down on the forehead. He's
now got like a headband back there. He's got a
rubber band or something. He's gluing his stupid tendrils due
bald ass peate. He looks foolish. He is foolish. He's dumb,
he's a liar, and I'm just like, I don't know
how Suki didn't salt him physically right there. Not to

(34:02):
advocate for that.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
You know what, speaking of that sidebar with his hair,
you think he would have siphoned some of that family
money to like go to Turkey and get those hair
plugs and stuff. Yeah, because I'm like, dude, you could
have like fixed your hair, maybe earlier in the seasons
when it was like starting to really receive. You would
have fixed it, Yep, before it got to this point,
because what happens when those tentrils fall off then you

(34:24):
literally have this giant, gaping cul de sac. Yeah, with
your little ramen noodles taped on the back of your head.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
It looks so preposterous. It would so infinitely better just
to shave it, yeah, like David does. Just get rid
of it, rock the balld. But nope, here we go
looking like a peacock, looking like a deranged, narcissistic, demonic peacock.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Straight.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I hate him so much, just the energy he was bringing.
And again I was just frothing thinking about like why DLC,
I know, why do you indulge this little, hateful, awful,
abusive man. Why do you let him sit on the couch.
He's getting paid for this and he's giving absolutely nothing.
He's lying to Suki's face. And then there's Robin, also
lying and giving absolutely nothing. She can't even be arked

(35:07):
to watch the clips that they're presenting. Thiss to traumatize.
It's so hard for traumatiz. God, get some balls to
LC fire these people. Oh my god, if Suki would
have just said, okay, well, if you're unwilling to answer
any of these questions, you can leave yep.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
And you won't get paid for the next two tell alls.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
And then just say nothing like that intentional pause and
see what he does. You can get up and leave,
thank you, thank you for your time.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Bye.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
That'd be so great.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Nobody wants you here.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
That would be so great if she could do that,
But they won't because they kind of need Cody and Robin.
I think it can eat Cody and Robin. I mean,
I know, but like we also all watch the show.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
I hate the show though at the same time I
hate the show.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
We watched the show anyway, though. That's the thing.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
I'm starting to hate it more and more. Somebody save me.
Like these people are irredeemable. There's really no light in them,
there's no good in them. Well that's because being persecuted
because the world hates true love okay, and the world
hates Cody and Robin's truelove. Why do they get to
get away with it? Why do they get to get

(36:09):
a two point one million dollar mansion? Oh that won't
last night, although we needed, we should revisit that because
I don't know how they are going to pay for this.
They could only just pull the plug please on these people.
Oh my god, we would see them flounder and flails
bankrupt and declare bankruptcy. It like TLC's not on our side. No,
production doesn't give a crap about what we want, and

(36:31):
so he gets to sit there like a little peacock,
terrible a hole and disrespect Suki. He's trying our hardest
to get anything out of him. Sorry, tangent over.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
She definitely is. And I think she did an interview
with Sarah Frasier. We didn't watch it because I don't
like Sarah. I'm sorry you, oh, but I think she
was trying to talk about that and talk about how
difficult it was to try and keep everything straight with
interviewing all of these people for hours upon hours on
end and doing individual interviews and like having to be

(37:01):
respectful and like having to deal with Cody like she
I watched a clip where Suki was telling Sarah Frasier, like,
imagine sitting in front of Cody Brown for hours and
trying to talk to him and like deal with how
aggressive he is and how like how much his energy is,
Like it's so intense. So I get it. I understand,

(37:23):
Like I know we've been hard on Suki, but it's
like it's more of I'm annoyed with production and how
they do this one on one and how we don't
have everybody involved together in the same room. It's annoying, yeap.
And then we talk about After the World Hates True Love.
We talk about Robin and Mary's relationship or lack thereof,

(37:44):
and their friendship and how it's kind of deteriorated. Suki
talks about how Mary and Robin used to be very
close and now they aren't anymore. And then we watch
a clip of Robin fake crying when Mary was moving
out of her house and Flagstaff and giving her that
junk journal and how she was really sad for Mary
to leave her all alone and flies that by herself.

(38:06):
And this is where Mary talks about how well the
relationship hasn't been reciprocal for a really long time. I'm
tired of reaching out. Well.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
But before she says that, though, Beatrice Suki asks her, well,
what do you think of like Robin crying? Oh yeah,
and Mary says, well, I mean I think she was
coming to terms with the reality that it was done
because she had spent so much time advocating for me
and trying to keep Cody and Die together and it

(38:34):
just didn't work. And so she was sitting in the
awareness of that. Yeah, I'm like, no, she came. She
hadn't seen you probably in weeks, if not months. She
came to perform for the cameras, to cry on cute
and give you an ugly journal and then get out
as soon as possible. Can we call a spade a
spabe and just say what it is?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
That's what's so annoying about Mary's like she just doesn't
see these situations for what they are. And like, granted,
you know, Mary a bit of a victim in this situation,
like she's a victim of Cody's narcissistic abuse allegedly, you know,
like I get it, But at the same time, it's like,
holy shit, Like wake up and just see it. And
Christine comments about it and comments about how unfair it

(39:17):
was for Robin to constantly tell Mary, no, Cody still
loves you and you guys should try and work things out,
and blah blah blah. Like Christine straight up says, it's bullshit.
It was a manipulation, yep, which I loved Christine for
saying that. And I hope Mary watches that and takes
that in because all of her other friends are saying that.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Right, and so you would think that Mary actually thinks
that as well. Right, She's just choosing not to acknowledge
it in this moment for some reason. I don't get it,
But like Christine is one hundred percent correct, this was
a manipulation. Robin wants you to stay because it's easier
for her if you do. And I'm just wondering, were
you still financially contributing while you were in Flags? She
probably was, and if so, how much?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Yeah, I wonder it would be really nice.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Of course Robin didn't want you to leave.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
Yeah, of course not because Robin needs the money. She's
not gonna be able to pay for all those American
girl dollars.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Sixty thousand dollars in a year be.

Speaker 3 (40:12):
A draged insane. And then this is where Christine says
that Mary's friends are actually really awesome and really great
for her because they're healthy and telling her the truth
and being honest, and that Robin was never really a
good friend because if Christine was in Robin's shoes, she
would have been telling Mary to leave years ago, because

(40:32):
even Christine saw the dysfunction between Mary and Cody. It
seems like everybody saw it except for Mary for some reason.
And then we have Cody saying that actually, Mary's friends
are just jealous of Robin because they actually want to
be Mary's BFF, just like Robin was Mary's BFF, and

(40:53):
that's why they're talking so much about me.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
And Robin, right, They're just jealous, right.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
And then the last top that we get into is
the luk agerec well, let's do bring in Robin, because
she does comment and say, oh.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
Yeah, that like she would be willing to have a
friendship with Mary. I mean, if there's something I need
to fix, I'm definitely willing to fix it. But I
have no idea what I would need to fix in
the first place, because I haven't done anything wrong. She
also talks about how when Mary left Flagstaff, she said like, yeah,
we can stay friends. And then it was Robin who

(41:29):
reached out and said, hey, when you travel I don't
know how many hours back to flag Staff and do
all the work and pay for the gas and put
the miles on your car to come back to flag Staff,
let's go do something fun together. Yeah, I have to
do all the work. And then she never really heard
from Mary, so like she needs to reciprocate too, And
I was thinking, okay, Robin, what about the I don't
know four years that Mary was in Flagstaff living down

(41:51):
the road from you, Like she selected a rental with
a jungle gym in the back so your kids could
come over, so she could hang out with your family.
All she wanted was to be a part of your family,
and you assured her that she would be. But then
after she got after you got her money from the
sale of her house in Vegas, it was crickets. Yeah,

(42:12):
so what about all that time when you just ghosted
Mary Like, no, we don't want to address that. We
just want to address well, since she left flag Staff,
I really haven't heard from her.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
See, and that's such a manipulative thing that she's even
doing right there, because Mary's the one that starts off
saying it wasn't reciprocal. And Mary's been saying this for
the last couple episodes in this season, like I just
don't feel the same energy from Robin that I'm trying
to give to her, so like why do I even bother?
And now Robin's trying to say no, actually, Mary's the

(42:41):
one that's not reciprocating, and she does kind of say this, like, well,
we both feel like it's not reciprocal, So I guess
it's just gonna be how it is, right, But I
do want to fix it though, because I'm a good person.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Well, and for somebody who keeps talking about recency bias,
like you're just relying on what happened recently, you're not
really speaking to the many years that preceded Mary leaving
Flagstaff and how you treated her as a friend or
like failed to treat her as a friend. I speak
to that, but of course she won't know, and production
is not going to compel her to. And then we

(43:14):
get to the luggage rack.

Speaker 3 (43:15):
Yeah, we talk about the luggage rect again. We see
another clip of Christina Janelle talking about the luggage rack situation.
I think at Gwenn's engagement party or.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
Some I think it was Christine's actually something for christs
at the cantina where she's eating the beria and she
gets the juice on her white someone's I don't know,
something like that.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Who cares. They talked about the luggage ract though, and
how Janelle and Christine bonded over this, and how it
was more of a symbol for the fact that Cody
was a selfish piece of shit and didn't care about
the other wives, and then Suki asks everybody in the
one on ones about the luggage rag and Mary is
the one that's like, stop complaining, Christina and Janelle, this

(43:57):
is so petty. Stop complaining, Like I just don't see
the point and like comparing our relationships and complaining about
these stupid petty things.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Well, I don't know. Maybe Christine has suffered over twenty
years of traumatic neglect from a man who has also
neglected you, yeah, Mary hell, and so maybe it's going
to take her a little bit of time to get
over that. And maybe David is a safe space where
she can actually off gas and vent and share with
him her issues and like how it affected her, and

(44:27):
so I'm sorry if you don't want to hear it anymore.
But maybe that's because you don't want to deal with
your own stuff and face the fact that Cody did
all of this and more to you as well, and
you just seem to be okay with it. And I
don't know why, because you like to preach about worthying
up and standing I guess ten toes down and who
it is that you are? But who are you?

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Though? I know you?

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Only who are you? Like? Why are you aligning yourself
even passively with these people who have strayed up financially
abused you and the otherwives and all of those kids?
Like who are you? Though?

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I really don't understand it, And I don't understand why.
She's like really double down on this, like why are
you talking about Cody to David? Christine? Like why are
you doing that? It's like this is what Cody is saying.
Cody says, like, well, I can't believe Christine and Janelle
are still talked about me. They divorced me, though, but
they're still talking about me. She's echoing the same shit
that Cody is saying. I don't understand why you're doing

(45:17):
this doesn't make any sense. And like any normal person
will talk about their ex from time to time with
their current relationship because that's just what you do. And
I don't want to be mean, but I was just
gonna say, like, sorry, Mary, you're not in a relationship,
so right, understand.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
That, right, and just building upon that, Like you've never
really been in a great relationship or a healthy relationship
where you were centered and focused, like the focus, and
anybody gave you like unconditional lefts, so you don't even
know what that's like. And so Christine is in a
whole new experience and it's safe for her to talk

(45:53):
about these things. She's in an experience that you've never had,
so you're uneducated on the matter entirely, and you want
to sit there in judgment about how these other women
are processing, keeping in mind that this is a show, yeah,
And like we're sitting down for a one on one
and Christine gets to bring her partner, so he's gonna
be there to witness whatever she has to say on
the subject of the show exactly. I don't know why

(46:13):
it's so mystifying to you, Mary, other than you just
want to be, I don't know, the best ex wife,
the favorite ex wife.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Yeah, because you're such a pigmy for Cody Brown.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
Right, you want to be the best ex wife and
you don't want to make him mad or whatever, Like
how is that working for you?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yes? And that's the aspect of Mary that really just
annoys me, because I'm just like, I don't understand how
you can like try and play both sides where you
are critical sometimes of Cody, but then you go back
and defend him against the other OG wives and then
shit on the other OG wives for talking about him
and talking about their experiences with him. So gross.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Well, conversely, I found it interesting generally that while Cody
from time to time was a bit critical of Christine,
in this episode, he was for the most part really
post yeah, talking about like well, like she's obviously found
somebody she wants to eat his face. I wish nothing
but the best for her, And I'm like, why are
you being so nice? But it's because you got sued

(47:10):
by her, it's the lawsuit. You don't want to antagonize her.
You probably know if this goes to discovery exactly what
she's gonna discover about you, So you best not you
best not piss her off.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I was thinking that because I'm like, are you actually
happy with this? Because with how you reacted a couple
of seasons ago with Christine actually leaving.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
You, you were freaking kidney and the kidney dumb.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
He was so fucking mad. But now he's like trying
to be all mature and.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Like he's it great, She's so happy and.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
That's what she always wanted. It was kind of interesting
that he was acknowledging that Christine was a huge romantic
and like she always wanted this like intimate romantic relationship
that he could not provide her. And when they were
talking about the intimacy, like he says that they both
were just like not really into it, And so there
was some aspect in him, maybe deep down in the

(48:08):
cold dark depths of his heart, he's like acknowledging a
little bit of accountability for their broken marriage. But I
think you're right. I think it's about the way.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
You didn't really hear that with Janelle. Like he seemed
to be more angry with Janelle, and I was just like,
he knows that Janelle just lost her son. You think
he would be a little more careful a little softer
with whatever he has to say about Janelle because he
knows the pain of that loss. But no, he wasn't.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
No, he's bitter.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah, and I think he's motivated by money and he's
just trying to defend himself and what he has. Defie
doesn't care about Janelle and he doesn't think Janelle can
do anything to him.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
No, well, because remember his biggest fearest poverty, right, So
he'll do anything he can to avoid that. But we'll see,
only time will tell, yes. But anyway, when we get
back to the luggage rag conversation, oh god, are we
not done with?

Speaker 1 (48:58):
No, we're not okay.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Larry says, it's petty complaining. Christine and Janelle talk about
how it's like a funny thing that they commiserated over,
and then we get to Robin. No, actually, then we
get to Cody, and Cody says, well, I don't remember
a luggage rack, and actually there was no luggage rack
because me and Christine were in a four door sedan,
there was no luggage racks. So he's trying to pretend
like he doesn't even remember, or like the memory doesn't even.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Exist, or that he didn't watch the clips that we
all just watched and we saw him watching in which
they were talking about being in a hotel and using
the luggage rack in the hotel. So he's being antagonistic
to Suki here. He's like, yeah, well we didn't even
have a luggage rack on the car.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
Yes, but we're talking about the hotel, right, Yeah, and
then he says something to dig at Christine, like if
she's going to continue to compare herself to Robin, she's
going to be super unhappy. So again, this is like
the narrative that Cody has that oh it's Christine just
comparing yourself to Robin, like Robin's actually perfect and it's
Christine who's crazy and I was actually a really good husband.

(49:59):
And then we get to Robin and Suki asks, well
did you get the luggage rack and Robin says, well,
yes I did, but this is also stupid, but yeah
I did get the luggage rack.

Speaker 1 (50:09):
Yeah, so smugs so smug.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Yeah, and then she says something like, well maybe it's
because I put my luggage there first.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Uh huh.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
So again putting the onus on the wives, right and
not Cody being selfish. Yeah, And then we end the
episode with Suki telling Christine, yeah, Robin got the luggage rack,
and Christine's all shocked.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Like we didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
I've been knowing.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
I mean, but like, how hard would it have been,
Beatrice for somebody just to break it down for everybody
else and say, well, what the luggage rack symbolizes is
that Cody puts himself first and he doesn't really care
about me and my luggage, and so my stuff has
to go on the floor, and he only cares about himself.
And if he does put Robin's luggage on the luggage rack,

(50:54):
that means he cares about her. But why didn't he
care about us? That's that's what they're really trying to highlight,
which is legitimate and valid, which we could actually have
a deeper conversation about, but we never kind of get
to those depths, and so it just just look at
you track conversation.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
It's like super annoying to me, frustrating that we can't
just like confront Cody and Robin directly and be like,
you guys preferred each other, Like that was the biggest
issue between your whole entire family. You guys found love,
you guys preferred each other. You broke up the family
because you couldn't keep your hands off of each other.
Like that's it, but like we can't be that direct

(51:32):
with them, no, And it's.

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Really annoying, well because Robin will straight up lie about it, yes,
and Cody will throw a temper tantrum about it. Yeah,
just stop talking exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
It's super annoying.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
And then we get to the preview for hopefully the
last episode of this season. But I'm just like, I
wonder if we're going to have another like little special
or something.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Come on for what.

Speaker 3 (51:55):
I don't know. I just feel like they're going to
have something, but hopefully not. Hopefully next week is the
last one on one. And we have Janelle again saying
that Cody is hyper focused on appearances. We know, I
don't care.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
We've been dying. I don't care. Holy crap.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Then we have Cody saying that even though Janelle and
Christine divorced him, they still talk about him, Like again,
we're talking. We're on a show. I know, we have
to keep talking about you. Robin saying that she's not
tracking any of the complaints from the other wives. I
don't get it.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
I don't know what they're saying, I'm like not keeping
up with any of this because I don't really care.
Just give me my paycheck.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
You are totally keeping up with it though, she's totally
watching all of the footage.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Look at her eyebrows. She changed him the criticism.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, she's on the redditch she's reading. And then we
have Mary saying that she never introduced Robin to Cody.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Interesting, which is very interesting because this has been a
matter of sister wives lore and I hope that she
actually explains how it actually went down, but I doubt
that we'll get there.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yeah, and then we get into the conversation about the
lightning bolts and the pussy. Yeah, and how Cody only
ever had that feeling with Robin. Robin only ever had
that feeling with him. But Christine says she had that
lightning bolt in her pussy.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
For Cody, which is amazing.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yep, but yikes, Cody says that never happened. Yeah, I
mean we know this because Cody was apparently repulsed by
Christine gusted since the.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
For real.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
And then we have Robin or sorry Cody saying that
Robin laid him in a bed, a rose garden bed
of trust.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
I hate him.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
I hate him so disgusting the way he describes their
love honestly, and then Suki asking Cody if he would
do this all over again, plural marriage being with the
og Wives, and I really hope he says yes, because if.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
He will say yes because of his children.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
But I don't know's he Cody, If he's like no,
all of his children are just like Dad. I feel
like he's gonna say no.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I feel like he's gonna say yes. I think he
has enough like awareness to understand that he cannot say no.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
I would hope not. Maybe he'll say yes for the children,
but no for the wives.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
We'll see yeah in the final installment of Sister Wives
season nine.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I hope it's the final installment.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
So exhausted, like my eyes are crossing. Yeah, And it's
just it's just like running through the timeline and the
clips and the commentary of things we've already discussed a
million times before. I feel like these tell nothings could
have been condensed into one episode to get like the
things we want to talk about, which is Coyote Pass
for real, the divorces, maybe the friendship between Mary and

(54:45):
Robin or whatever. But like we didn't need to spend
this much time. It's just eching it out, Yes.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
It really is. They're trying to get as much money
as they can, I think apparently, and then we're gonna
have allegedly season twenty at the end of like the
end of the summer.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah, something like August or September, according to Nicki Haverstock.
And this is a rumor only. Oh but let's get
back to the second McMansion. I did want to just
talk about this with you again because Nikki Haverstock like
apparently saw either the receipts heard from a realtor that

(55:21):
Cody and Robin were thoroughly extended on the original mcmanson,
meaning anytime their home increased inequity like they were a
little bit up, they took out a loan, they refinanced,
they did a heelog but they pulled that equity out
And there were multiple loans against the first McMansion, so

(55:42):
much so that even though they sold it, I would
imagine for one point six I know they listed it
for one point six million, they had loans against it
for a lot, if not almost the entire amount. And
we know they purchased the second McMansion with a down
payment that came out of a trust and it was

(56:03):
for like four hundred thousand dollars, So that's how they
made the down payment. But I just feel like there
wasn't a whole lot of additional liquidity other than well,
the assets aren't liquid, Like they didn't really have a
whole lot of money to put down or to spend
in order to purchase this home. And I'm just really

(56:23):
wondering now as we're exiting the season, they're in the house.
They've got it, Yeah, they sold the other house. Yeah, Like,
how are they going to make these payments? Because four
hundred thousand dollars down payment on a two point one
million dollar home is still one point seven million dollars
that they're financing unless they were able to throw some

(56:44):
more money at it. I do one point seven million dollars.
What kind a mortgage are you looking at? With that?
Mean it's at least ten thousand to fifteen thousand a month, right, Oh,
at least.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
And then depending on what interest rate they get it
at too, Like if they got it at six percent, right,
oh my, I.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Mean it was terrible last year. It was the sevens.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
It's really bad, and like flag Staff is not a
cheap area now, Like I don't know what their property
taxes and stuff are like either, and then you have
all the utilities and stuff, like I don't know how
they're paying for this shit. Maybe that's why Cody has
dropped seeds this season about selling Coyote Pass, because I
know Robin doesn't want to. She wants us to believe
that she's still holding onto the dream or whatever. But

(57:28):
maybe that's why Cody's like, we got to figure this
out so we can sell, so they can use that
money to maybe put towards the house or whatever. I
could see something like that.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
I'm just really wondering how all of this is being
balanced by Cody and Robin. And as we've discussed millions
of times before, but it's just like so juicy not
to continue to reiterate like what happens when Sister Wives
goes away or we do something like an after Sister
Wives with just the girls and what they're doing and
just the kids, and like know Cody and Robin, like

(57:59):
what are they going to do. They're gonna have to
sell their house? Oh, they're definitely they're not gonna They're
gonna have to downsize all of their vehicles. Ye all
of the college tu wish it gos my.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
God, there's no way, Like if they were like actually
smart with their money, kind of like with Christine and David,
Like David's got that nice construction business, like he's making money,
Christine's making money with her MLM stuff and stuff, and
then they have their airbnbs.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Right now to their own home.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Yep, They've got a lot of passive income that they're
too and fine. And they got like a nice house,
like and I'm not trying to like downplay it, like
it's a modest house compared to Cody and Robin's McMansion,
which is ugly by the way, it's horrid, absolutely horrid,
But like they got a nice house with a nice
view and everything. They're not like living beyond their means.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
They're like I don't think so, I would hope not.

Speaker 3 (58:50):
It seems like they're doing pretty okay, but like Cody
and Robin are not smart. They have this huge mansion,
Like I think they're either taking out debt to pay
some utility bills and stuff like that, like they're screwing themselves.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
And Robin I think has a legitimate spending problem. Definitely,
Like the fact that you are allegedly purchasing sixty thousand
dollars worth of American girl dolls. I think in a year, right,
Like was it over time?

Speaker 3 (59:19):
It was like in a month.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
I mean at least a year, if not a month.
The fact that you're spending money on such stupid, frivolous
things while there's like a lawsuit pending a potential second
lawsuit because they didn't know whether Mary and Janelle were
going to sue and what they were going to get.
Like the fact that you're still just bleeding money like
that means that this is your personality. This is the

(59:42):
kind of stuff that you do, means that you're doing
it right now in addition to having to pay for
all of your kids cars and the insurance and the
mortgage and all of the things. Oh my god, I'm
stressed out just thinking about that. And the thing is
is these two people, and I hate to like count
people's coins, and I hate to be judging in this way,
but they don't deserve it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
No, they don't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
They don't deserve to live a life of lavish luxury.
When the mothers, the other mothers, the other wives and
the kids don't have their fair share. I mean, I
don't begrudge anybody their wealth. I think like, if you're
earning it, you're building, that's fantastic. But like when you're
stealing it though, or when it's not fair allegedly, like

(01:00:25):
when you're siphoning money away from people who have earned
that money, like you should not be able to prosper.
And so I'm just they won't monkling this like waiting
for the moment when the House of Cards falls.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
It's inevitable at this point. Karma is a bitch, like
Jojo Siwah has said. And so I think it's going
to happen. We're going to see it, we're going to
be reporting on it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
But like the Cody and the Robin that we're watching
in these tell alls, they're living like that's never going
to happen. They're living like they have the power in
this situation and they can tell Suki what to do,
and they can answer the questions as they wish. They're
living as if this is not a precarious situation that
they're in. For me, I would be like ingratiating myself.

(01:01:11):
It's like what can of course you can come into
my house to film. Absolutely, I'll share my life story
with you. But they have no sense of what is
coming for them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
I mean they're so delusional, But like, wouldn't you have
to be if you were in this big of a hole?
Like if that shit that Nikki Haverstock is saying is
true about the multiple leans on their loans on their
previous big mansion and then having to sell that having
no liquidation, and then having to put take money out
of a trust? Like whose trust was that was that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
And how did you build that?

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
No, it's their trust. But how did they build that trust?

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Exactly off the backs of the women that were disenfranchised
and the children who were exploited to make this show?

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Right, Yeah, what if they like, what if they took
all that money out so that way nobody could fight
for it. What if they took all that money and
then put it into the house kind of like a
money laundering scheme. Mm hmm, like washing their money so
that way nobody would try and take any of it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
And what if Janelle saw it? What if Janelle saw
the movement of the money. And she's a smart cookie,
you can't tell me if she saw it. She wasn't
wondering to herself, like what are they doing with that?
And I see all these assets building and we have
Maddie who's her daughter, talking about those assets. So they're talking.
Janelle and Maddie are talking together. Yeah, it's like, why
did Janelle let that happen?

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I don't get it? Or maybe that was this straller
broke the camel's baby girl.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
I don't know. Interesting, interesting stuff. And we're talking about
the things everybody wants to talk about, by which Suki
will not ask them, of course. Not so all right, Well,
is there anything else that we need to say to
these beautiful records before we get up on out of here? Beatrice?

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
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Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
We have one more episode from Sister Wives season nineteen
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