June 18, 2025 • 46 mins
We made it, Raccoons! Season 19 is FINALLY over, and what a way to end it with another disappointing tell-nothing. Kody and Robyn continue to lie and gaslight the audience, Meri continues to simp for Kody, Janelle wants us to know she likes to f*ck, and Christine is living her best life. Thank God this sh*t is OVER! We need a break!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with my real
tight Homegirl and my daughter in law, the Fabulous Bea Dress.
We are here for the conclusion finally of Sister Wives
(00:25):
season nineteen. We're gonna be recapping the fourth out of
four of the tail alls.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm going astrol.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
My god, I am so over it. I can't even
articulate how over it I am. But we're gonna have
a little fun and see these browns off. But before
we do, we have to issue you a disclaimer. Please,
Haji your wife and hajakiads. This is a politically in
correct podcast, which simply means that we say some bad words.
(00:56):
We have stupid opinions ejectively sometimes vulger. Yeah, well she is.
And so if you're all sensitive, meaning you might want
to find yourself another dumpster. But if you're down to finish,
oh my god, this isn't it, welcome to this dumpster.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
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two of The Valley over There, and it is crazy.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
It is crazy, and it's a lot of fun. So far,
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Speaker 2 (01:59):
We're at five point.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
We're at base camp two. Yeah, base camp too, and
I'm excited. I'm acclamating it. So thank you in advances. Now,
I just have to warn everybody my energy is a
little low tonight because my husband, her freaking husband. My husband.
Oh I love don't get me wrong, we love him
very much. He traveled yet again.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
He got his big ol' tixis body on a plane,
went to Boston, and the day before he comes home
he texts me yet again.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Every time.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm getting sick, every time, every every time time he travels,
literally every time.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's always at the end of his trip.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
He'll message you late at night, I'm getting sick, I know.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And then he brings that crud home to me, and
then within four days or whatever, you're still getting sick,
and so I'm starting to get sick.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah. Plus, I'm just over it with sister wives. I'm stas.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So if I'm a little weird or if I just
don't get that is why. If I'm just I ain't
got nothing for these people. Not over it, nothing, Any
takeaway from you after watching the final tell all, my friend.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I mean, I got two takeaways. Okay, one, I'm also
over it. I'm so tired of it. After this tell all,
I'm like, I don't remember anything. I don't know what
y'all are saying. I don't care what y'all are saying.
My second takeaway is that it's too much Cody and Robin. Yeah,
like so many clips of Cody and Robin. I'm like,
I don't care about these people. I don't care about
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your dumb love story.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Your sex before marriage.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Lightning bolts, and your pussies.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't care about that.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't give it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I know nobody does. No, that's your thought. Yes, I
think we all agree. I think we can go sign
on that one. My thought is just I need a break.
I just need a break. I think next week, if
we could just take a week off, sounds great before
we dive right back into rewind and I know, welcome
to Plaid phill is coming back? When is that again?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
July July something? July eighteenth, twenty is?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I thought it was like in the beginning of July.
I don't tell July, like we're still commiserating as to
whether we're going to watch that, so before we start
watching anything new and covering the old stuff too, Like,
I just need a week, yeah, to take a break,
to get into coffin with some of those little brown
kids and just just have a moment to myself in
the dark. That is what I need. I think that's fair, Okay,
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And so next week we are not going to be here,
but we're going to be continuing to put content up
on our Patreon. See if you still want to hear
from us even though we take a one week break
after this week, make sure to subscribe to our Patreon,
please and thank you. All right, well, take it away
for this final recap of season nineteen, episode twenty nine,
(04:49):
twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Wow, absolutely insane, way too long for a season in
my opinion. But we start off wrapping up the conversation
from last week about the freak and luggage Rag who
Cares and Robin getting her needs met aka her box it,
And then we talk about Cody and his obsession with
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appearances and people looking good who cares, which we talked
about a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
We had already talked about this to death, I mean
to my death in a coughin I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Like we're talking about the camping story again and showing
the clip of Christine in the U haul with David
talking about the camps we.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Had already seen. First of all, we saw it the
first time they aired it hut out, and then we.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Saw it the second time during the tail all the
year we played it, Yeah, and now we got to
watch it again.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, and now we have to talk about it again
about how Cody is self centered and he only cares
about appearances.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yes we know, duh, Yes we know. Tell me something
I haven't heard it.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The only thing that was interesting about this was that
Robin with her hard jaw, is denying the camping story
even though it's literally on film.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Doesn't she know that it's on film? Doesn't know that
Hunter was getting upset because no, he was helping. Doesn't
she know that there is footage of her putting on
her beat makeup and getting herself together out in Big
Bear or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't recall, gosh, I don't recall I remember pitching in.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I'm sure I pitched in, though I like cooked her something.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I took turns cooking. I did my fair share. They're
just poking fun at me. That's not true, she says, yes,
when it's on film. I'm just like, why aren't we
calling her out?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Like why would it cost you production to just roll
the tape? I wunder and just roll the damp tape.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They show it in the clip like they show like
a montage to us. I don't think they showed it
to them.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Watch the clips.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
She won't.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So maybe Sukie could have said something like, well, if
you had watched the clip, then we just showed you
you would have saw yourself put in the makeup on.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
She would have just said some shit like oh, they
edited it, they edited it out. I was actually helping,
like she probably would have just made it up. I'm
just like Robin.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Lies on lies on lies on lies.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I mean, why can't would it kill you to tell
the truth once in your life.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
She doesn't know how, No, she is not in her No.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Not at all. And then we have David on the
couch for some reason talking about polygamy, talking about how
it's all about control, how he apparently dated other ex
polygamous women and the men just completely ruined them. But
thank god for.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
CHRISTINEO Diamond in the Rough. Yeah, that was a little
bit of an ify commentary a lot of women in general.
But I mean he does have family members, sisters, yeah,
specifically who are in or were in polygamy, so he
did have some observations. But yeah, it sucks. Polygamy is
terrible to women, polygamy is terrible for children, and he
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knows it and he's seen it firsthand.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I would like to hear those comments from the women, though,
you know what I mean, Like David's the one that's
articulating it. But I'm like Christine, like you have said
a million times on our episodes, like Christine was the
one championing polygamy and advocating for it and these earlier
seasons like it'd be cool she just said, Yeah, I
realized that polygamy is actually fucking bad for women. Yeah,
and not empowering at all. And really awful.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
That's a really good point because we do see Christine
advocating for herself and calling things out in the relationship
with Cody and within the family structure, but like, she's
really not commenting a lot on polygamy in general or
the religion in general, even though she has left it.
I don't know if she believes anymore. I don't know
what the status of her faith is. It would be
(08:21):
great if we could get something from her on that.
But no, but no, but alass nothing for us Raccoons,
the dubut nothing at all, the faithful fans of this
freaking show. Maybe it'll be in her book, which we're
gonna have to buy for thirty four dollars inflation.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's not even written by her, I.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Know, it's totally AI chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And then we talk about Cody putting himself first, like
we didn't already know that, and we have Mary defending
the fact that.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I'm ending this season hating Mary again. Oh my god, Mary,
I thought you were worthying of. No. I thought you
were trying to show up for women. I thought you
were doing some motivational speaking for women to encourage them
to better their lives. And this is what you're giving us. Well, yeah,
of course he puts himself first, but so do I,
so does everybody every once in a while. Oh my god,
miss me.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
With that, she feels like she's the worst. It kind
of feels like she thinks that she's being so profound
by saying that. No, I see all sides of it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, and so diploma.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Everyone can be kind of selfish. Sometimes it's like, no,
it's not what we're saying. We're saying that Cody objectively
always puts himself first.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and it was, as a matter of fact, abusive
to his wives. Yeah, at least on television, we saw
him be verbally and emotionally abusive to his wives and
to his children. Hello. And so if you want to
be some sort of paragon of values and what women
should be doing in terms of advocating for themselves, then
call the crap out honestly.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But she can't do.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It, which is why I don't trust her. Me neither,
and that she's worthied of.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I don't think so talk about trusting how she said
last episode, I don't know who to trust. I can't
trust you.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Everybody can trust her, God, nobody can trust her.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And then we have Christine saying that she was never
really respected from Cody or by Cody as a wife,
as a mother, as a person, and Cody was calling
her a shitter wife instead of sister shy.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's a crazy Was that a joke? I don't think
is he walking around calling them sh It's kind of funny,
but terrible, very bad. But do we think that back
in the day, like during Lehigh and certainly in the
beginning when they moved to Vegas, that Cody really didn't
value her for being a mom and taking care of
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all of his whole mess of kids.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's hard to say, because I feel like if Cody
was the same person that we see now back then,
even slightly, I could see him not really respecting her.
But like, at the same time, I wonder if Christine's
just painting it bad because like their whole marriage was bad.
Maybe that's the case. But at the same time, Christine
(11:02):
was the basement wife, so maybe she wasn't really respected
because she was the one stuck in the basement and
forced to take care of all the kids and homeschool
them and everything.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, I don't know. I just I find it kind
of hard to believe that he never valued her, or
that he never worked for the family and worked to
please his wives. I think once Robin entered the scene,
that is when everything shifted. Yeah, that is when things
got bad, and all of the marriage is zilla except
for Robinson.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, agreed. And then the last part of this section
was Cody talking about how he was mean to the
og wives only as a reaction to them being did
not believe it was Counterpunchy was.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Saying that like that it was reactive abuse, Like I'm
being abused by these women who were trashing me on TV,
and so of course I'm going to react to that.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, you're the one.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Who did the knife and the kidneys. Christine is sitting
there peaceible, saying nothing, and you're the one screaming.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, we saw all.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Of those meetings you had with her at the big
Mormon conference table negotiating your divorce. She was eminently respectful.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
She didn't ask for hardly anything but what she put
into her own house in order to leave. Like, what
are you talking about the only person who started the
campaign against the wives and the kids who you called
assholes by Yeah, how you called your son's assholes and
you've called out Maddie, that's you. Yeah, none of that
was reactive. I just couldn't believe it. And I think
Robin said something somewhere in this episode as well, like
(12:33):
that her family was taken from her. Yes, I'm like
that the family and the dream was taken from you. No,
you destroyed it. You had a hand in dismantling it.
But the language that they used to describe what's happened
when we've all seen it is just so wild and
disturbing to me.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh, they're like straight up delusional. Like when he's saying this,
I'm like, are you for real right now? Like that's
how you person this situation? Like are we gonna forget
about the fact that you told Christine that she was
repulsive when she ate nachos and that you were never
physically attracted to her and that you didn't want to
have any intimacy with her whatsoever. But that's not mean.
That's just you telling her the truth that you're gonna
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cut off an intimate marriage with her, and then she
leaves you, and that's mean. So now it justifies you
screaming at her and saying all this bullshit for the
last couple of seasons, and I think Robin said at
some point, like, you know, I feel like really bad
because the world only gets to see this one version
of Cody, which is this mean version, and it's the
worst version of him, you know, but he's actually like
(13:36):
a good guy though, right, Like okay, miss me with that.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, I think she was trying to say that for
the last three to four years specifically, like this version
of Cody has been like who people have been seeing,
but that that's not who he is. Like he's the
Cody from way back in the day. Sure now emerging
from his angry season, his mannosphere hate, and he's starting
to be happy again. So but I'm just like, yeah, no, yeah, whatever.
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He's always been problematic, and.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I feel like somebody talked to him. I feel like
somebody in production talked to him about how he came
off the last couple of seasons. Was like, dude, they
pulled a scandalal and like, hey, we have to rehab
your image a little bit, right, right, let's kind of
turn the tide so that way people stop hating you
because you're actually insane. But I don't know, I just
couldn't believe he said that. I was really mean because
(14:27):
they were mean to me.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
For he and Janelle is the Ariana Maddox in this
scenario because she's just like, I just don't care, like
at all, don't I'm just gonna walk out in this
entire situation. I'm not going to comment on it. Like whatever,
they can do, whatever they want to do. I'm over
here living my best life with my farm on farmers
only dot com or whatever, and I'm good, yes, And
I'm a sexual earth mama girl, I'm a Taurus. Has
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she been watching us?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I feel like watching I kind of felt like.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It, and we have been out here saying that she
does give some sensual sl and she's got that Taurus
sensuality governed by venus. Yeah I get it. Oh yeah,
I get what she was putting down.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I loved that She's like, I'm a Taurus. I'm an
earth mama. I love everything earthy food, one sex. I'm like, yes, girl,
me more. Oh my god, find yourself a real man.
Get your back blown out.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And she's talking about watching her kids who are married
and the relationships that they have and how the husbands
and she must be referring to Caleb. How Caleb dotes
on Maddie and how they're so connected, and she's like,
you know, maybe I'm ready for a relationship like that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I would love to see that me too. I would
love to see Janelle's dating journey instead of talking about
Cody and Robin and when they first met, because that's
the next clip that we get to where we go
to that stupid date in the addict of Josephine's Beastroom, right,
and Cody and Robin are recounting their love story and
the lightning bolts that they felt in both of their
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pussies and now they just fell for each other instantly.
Cody starts crying watching the clip back.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I hate him so much. I feel like he's performative emotions. Yes,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I was just like, I feel like he does that
just so maybe we think that he's a human being
right with feelings. I think so, And I'm like, I don't.
I don't think of you as a human being. I
think you're a demon possessed, balding, saggy balls.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Piece of shit, a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Leyton Topin's homosexual.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Maybe probably end when we talk about it, because he
referred to it as his sexuality. I don't want to
talk about my sexuality.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Ain't nobody talking about his sexuality when you're talking about
your sexual experience. I caught that you're the one who
said you had them. And when he comes back the
next day, I guess, presumably to talk to Suki. Yeah,
all of a sudden about his sexuality and it was
a dangerous unsafe topic to discuss, Like, why is this
so unsafe.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Because you had a homosexual experience.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And he did say that they thought his high school
friends thought he was not just gay flamboyantly gay, flamboyantly
gay in high school.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
That means Robin probably pigs him. I've been saying I.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Feel and there's no shame in that. And if they
like that, I love that great, I guess. But yeah,
I was just like, oh, that was an interesting turn
of phrase.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I saw that I heard.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I was like, did you pick up on that?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yes, I'm like you gay. And we've had several people
comment on YouTube saying the same thing that they think
Cody's gay.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay, I mean a little bit around the edges.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, yeah, at the very least bisex sicoal, Yeah, a
little bi curious. Sure, I don't know, but he's taught
he talks about in this clip at Josephine's Bistro, back
to how he told Robin like within a month of
dating about his college gay sex experience because she was
so trustworthy and she what did he say? Laid him
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down in a rose garden of trust.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I immediately started drawing up merch on our canva. Did
you see it?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's a big at raccoon in the rose garden and
it's the rose Garden of trash, Like we need that shirt.
I hate it so much for real. Yeah, So I
just thought that he was being so ridiculous, and I
think Janelle addresses it in this episode when she talks
about how extra he's being. Why, Like, what's he getting
(18:22):
out of talking about these subjects? Like previously, he never
wanted to talk about sex, never want to talk about money,
But here he is talking about both of these things,
and for what reason? To show us just how much
he loves Robin and how real their union is, therefore
maybe validating why he threw his entire rest of his
family away. Yep, that makes sense to me.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh, I think Janelle's clocking him every time she makes
a comment. I feel like she's right on the nose,
because I think she said something like he says all
of this shit about how Robin was safe and how
the OG three were not safe and he couldn't be
vulnerable with them because they were so unsafe, and how
it was all bullshit that he's just making up because
he's just trying to justify all the reasons why Robin
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is so perfect. And I thought that was kind of
an interesting like phrase, because maybe Cody doesn't think Robin's
like super perfect, but she's the only one that's left.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I don't know. I'm conflicted on that because I do
think he is one hundred percent sprung for her. Yeah,
I think he is in love with her, but I
don't necessarily buy into their meat cute and how that
went down. And furthermore, like somebody correct me if I'm wrong,
I could a swore in season one, which we have
covered in our rewind like Mary was the one who
(19:39):
said and like Cody and Mary talked about the fact
that Mary introduced Robin to Cody and yeah, my friends,
and I thought that I thought that that was established,
and now we have Mary saying I never introduced them.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, and she's like people are just making that up
in the Twitter sphere, and I'm like, what do you mean.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Absolutely not it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I feel like you asked about it. Yeah. Well, and
it's like the the way that they're recounting it is
so weird. Like Cody talks about his lightning bolt and
his pussy when he saw Robin at church, but they
didn't actually meet. They just saw each other from like
opposite side of the room.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And then and he stared at her like in a
trance with a heart on, like just watching her, a
little noodle on, just watching her, and she was looking
at him, and then she had to look away because
he was being a pred and that was scary.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, And so they didn't actually talk. Yeah, that's when
apparently Robin got her lightning bolt, and clearly Cody got his.
But it wasn't until some other time when him and
Mary were in a car and they were on the
side of the road or something like that, Robin and
her cousin and her cousin's husband or something.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Something like that. But then they said that they met
at a dance.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, I mean, but they were talking on the side
of the road, and Cody's like, yeah, I didn't really
speak to her because I was a little bit embarrassed.
Completely was in a trance because of her beauty. I
was dissociating it was in the fifth dimension with you
because of the beauty of it at all. So I
didn't say anything. And then at some other point there
was a church.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Dance that they all went to.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Is anybody else curious, like what kind of music they're
listening to? You at a Mormon church dance?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Mormon hymns?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
No Mormons have him of course? Oh yeah, okay, but
like really what kind of means?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I don't know, because.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Then he goes on to like quote the dance by
Garth Brooks at some point like maybe it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Was Oh yeah, I was just trying to envision it.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It was very strange.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The kids bought version of Garth Brooks song.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
But like, also, did Cody say at one point like
Robin actually gave him the ick because she was married,
oh yeah and had divorced. Like he was not interested
in the least adag Yeah, I thought, he said. And
I'm like, okay, so now what about what you said
all those seasons ago? Is all of that just a lie?
(21:54):
Or are you lying now? Make it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, all of it I think is a lie
because they, like Christine said, they were so in love
they had to hide it. So what else were they hiding?
And then they had this long courtship of a year,
which Janelle comments on, and this is where she says,
we've seen it already in the brevious, that if she
had a year long courtship with Cody, she probably wouldn't
have married him, and that a married man having a
(22:17):
year long courtship is not necessarily appropriate. But they still
did it anyway, and Christine even makes the assumption like, well,
what else were they doing? He was very comfortable at
her house, even in her bedroom, and so maybe they
fucked before marriage. I'm paraphrasing, but it's basically what Christine said.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So where do we land with that? Do we think
that they were sexually intimate before they actually had this ceremony? Yes,
because when they panned to Robin and Suki has the
nerve to ask her whether she had sex before marriage
with Cody, Yeah, Rob is like, absolutely not. I mean,
all we did was church kiss. There was nothing there.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
She's such a liar, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
She seemed kind of convincing to me. Like she was
so taken aback that anybody would ever question that. But
then I go back through the rolodex of my mind
to season one during the wedding where she and Cody
pick out the wedding dress and pretend that she's going
to go shopping with the other wives, and everything is
a lie.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yep, So I think she was lying.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah. And her engagement photo with Cody, like she is,
she got that pushing it up against that nck. She
pressed into the neck of that man as if they
were acquainted one with the.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Other, And Christine says that too. She's like they were
awfully comfy in their engagement photos. So yeah, I think
Robin has just been saying that lie for the what
last twelve thirteen years that they've been together, So I
think she's good at lying it. But they one hundred
percent we're fucking before marriage, right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And this is where Christine I think is right and
is very believable when she's like they have to hide it,
and she has said in the past during these tellaws
that yeah, Cody I think fell in love yeah, and
did not really know what that felt like until he
met Robin. But because they were in the family that
they were in and now they had a television show
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on top of that, they had to hide it. But
that's a lie. Yeah, And you didn't tell the truth
about the scope and the scale of your feelings, and
you led me on and then you turned off the
intimacy and you didn't respect the things that I was
bringing it into the family, And that's a lie. So
it's just betrayal after betrayal after betrayal. But exactly Cody
and Robin cannot not just acknowledge that. They can't even
(24:28):
admit that, No, they can't even approach admitting to that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
No. In fact, Cody talks about all of this stuff
we're saying as just being internet bs that everybody's saying
that we had the intentions of only being together as
just a bunch of drama. There was no real intent
to do that or just to be with each other.
But we fell in love. And then he goes on
to say that polygamy doesn't work if you actually fall
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in love, and he fell in love hard, and so
it's like he's admitting it without really admitting it, and
that's what's so annoying about it, Like, why, yeah, you
just say that you fell out of love the second
you met Robin. With all the other wives, you could
have released them back then, but you wanted the money,
you wanted the show, you wanted the big houses in
the cul de Sac, and you, I guess you tried
(25:14):
to make it work, but like you didn't know.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And he can't admit that it was Robin that changed everything.
And so this is why he says something like, well,
with Mary, it did start off as a love match
and a love connection, and it was very sweet and romantic,
but it died by like a thousand paper cuts or
whatever you set like something like again shifting the blame
back onto them. But really he's blaming Mary and their
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behavior for the reason that their marriage didn't work, and
not Robin. And that's where he needs to be honest
and truthful, and honestly, I wouldn't care, Like if you
just came out and said, yeah, it was a thunderbolt
ride him a pussy yeah, And I just I could
not I could not even consider my other wives the
same anymore, Like everything changed on that day. Like if
you could admit that, I could accept that, and I
(25:58):
think for the other women and the kids could act.
But it's the fact that you just lie over and
over and over again, and you have the temerity to
do so while there is a visual record of you
doing the things you said you didn't do. It's crazy,
it's so, it's crazy making. It's a gas lighting, all yes.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
With Robin. It's like, why don't you just say it,
Why don't you just say that you knew you had
him ninety nine percent of the time and that you
understand why the other women felt like they were abandoned,
Like you just don't care. You only care about your money.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Do you think like that would make you look worse
than what you're doing in order to cover up the
fact that he was with you all the time, which
everybody already knows. Right, It's the thing, It doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's like, I don't understand how they think, Like I
wonder if they actually believe all the lies that they're saying,
If they're like so in denial about the fact that
they just fell in love with each other, you think
they're just lying.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I think they know that they're lying. Yes, then what
and nobody's stopping them? And that's the thing they can
do that with impunity. Nobody's rolling the tapes so Kia's
not call them about Sukiana hasn't even watched the seasons, right,
she didn't even know that Cody was a wrestler or
like what kind of athletics he did. Like, there's a
lot of things that she just doesn't know in the
in the canon of Sister Wives, and so she can't
(27:12):
retort with something salient and say, well, what about this?
What about that? And so nobody ever does. And you
even hear him at the end of this episode telling
everybody to turn off the cameras, cut the camera.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I know.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So is he in charge of production? Why is production
just doing what the fuck Cody's telling them to do.
Why doesn't anybody push back? Because I'm telling you right now,
this is all he has, sister does all Cody and
Robin have? Sure, so you could absolutely push back. Why
aren't we doing that? I thought we got a new
production house or like a new person in charge of
(27:44):
the production house. It's like, where is the change? Why
are we continuing to coddle this man? And he was
triggering me, Beatrice with the way he was looking at Sukian. Oh,
there is something about it that reminded me of my
abusive father. Just like the he slows down and turns
and very threateningly looks at her and says, I'm not
(28:06):
talking about that anymore. Yeah, I'm just like, there is
a verbal threat, yep, and it's menacing to me. And
I'm sure that he wasn't physically threatening her in the moment,
But I wonder about how he conducts himself behind the scenes.
Oh yeah, in his various marriages and even with Robin,
I'm like, you're scary. There's parts of you that are
(28:27):
scaring me.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's really freaking weird that production and Suki are like
I don't want to say that they're scared of him,
but they just placate him a lot. And I'm like,
why aren't we buying him? Like why are we even
allowing him to say I'm not going to answer that
or not going to talk about that. If he wants
to get up off set and leave and not get
paid for two other tellols let him fucking go because
(28:51):
I don't show his character. I don't know why we
have to like keep him on or like try and
be nice and say thank you for your account on
ability when he gave absolutely none.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Like, honestly, where's the value added? With Cody and Robin
because they don't tell the truth. They just obstruct and obfuscate,
like they screw up the timeline. They confuse the audience
because they're telling us that something didn't happen that we
already watched happen. And so what are they actually adding
to the story of Sister Wives at this point? Why
(29:24):
couldn't we just get rid of them or have them
be friends of like they do on the Bravo shows
and the Real Housewives. Robin can be a friend of
no one, Cody can be a friend of I don't know.
Is there a kid there's still who is she be
a friend of Mary's. Yes, he can travel to Parawan
every once in a while, and we can see what's
going on with Cody. But like they do not have
(29:44):
to be major cast members in the show. Get rid
of them.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I know. It's so weird. And I noticed his comment
at the end where he's like, cut the cameras, and
I'm like, are you just saying that to feel like
you're a big man, like you're the director, but you
actually aren't, like nobody's listening to you.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Well, they did, they cut the They do listen to
him and that's the question. Why why they do though, well,
and you know that they do because they don't challenge
him ever. And he is so puffed up with the
power of that he understands. Ain't nobody going to be
pushing him around. He can get away with whatever he
can try and front with Suki like this, and nobody's
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going to do anything about it, And so he does it.
He doesn't have moral character, He doesn't have virtue in
my personal opinion, to talk to a woman like that
and to stare at a woman like that, to lean forward.
And he did it last year. He did and nobody
talked to him last year when he did it.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, I know he's comfortable to just do.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
It again this year. Oh my God, give me five
minutes with that small little man. Give me five.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Minutes with that small little bab you would be I.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Will teach him a lesson. I will teach that man
a lesson. I wouldn't be scared to do so. God,
And I just feel it's on the tip of Suki's tongue.
But she's a smart woman. I actually went on her
Instagram to because I wanted to see if there was
any new posts from her, because she hadn't posted pretty
much at all through thee she got so much hate, right,
(31:09):
but there were a couple of clips from her interview
with Sarah Frasier, and then there were people on the
posts just kind of slamming her, like why didn't you
ask her? Why didn't you ask them the questions? Why
don't you know what you're talking about? And I just
left her a message and said, hey, I think you
did a good job. I know it must have been
very difficult to have to finesse this interview employee strategy
(31:32):
just to get them to say anything like you did
a good job and thank you very much, because I
just feel like, what a thankless job Suki has.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean really though, And like I'm of two minds
with Suki. It's like I get that you have to
tread lightly with these narcissistic demons like Robin and Cody,
I understand, And like maybe she's held to a certain
contract with production too, like maybe they're like you can't
ask him certain things or you can't do these kinds
of things. I get that it's difficult. Well, it's just
(32:00):
so fucking frustrating to watch it, and I just don't
understand why Production does this, and like, why we are
being so kind to Cody and Robin, Like when everyone
in the entire world hates them, like every single I
don't think there's anybody that's like, you know what, I
think Rabbit's a good person.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And yeah, and they're hated bulls. Yeah, and their actions
have they become hatterable people. Right, It's not like we
hate them in a vacuum. It's they've done terrible, despicable things.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
That we're not addressing to their family, and.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
We're just not able to talk about any of it.
And if we do, they're just gonna lie about it
and we're not going to challenge them.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, it's crazy. Well, and it's like with Cody getting
mad at Suki for asking him about his homosexuality, and like,
you're the one that problems up, dude. I think you're
the one that talked about your college gay sex experience, right, didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
He gets so angry because he frames it as some
sort of a trap, like she was asking inappropriate questions
and he was so kind to be generous and give
her some information, but like she kept pressing it and
he's really angry about it. I'm just like, get over yourself, dude, Honest,
you're the one who's mentioned before that you had a
pre marital relationship in college or whatever. Did he even
(33:05):
go to college? Did he go to college? Maybe associates, okay,
but whatever. But you're the one who've already entered into
evidence that bit of information.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
So I don't know why you're so upset about it.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't understand it. You're the one that brought out
the story, but then you don't want people to ask
you about it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Maybe because if we dig a little deeper, maybe we
can find out who it was that you actually had
a pre marital affair with. And what if it's a bead,
it probably it probably is juice.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I would love to know.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Good.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You imagine if Harry actually is a man out there
that like fucked Cody Brown, he's just like sitting on
that secret, just waiting for the perfect time to talk
about it. I would love that.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah. I would love it as well. And it would
be perfect karma for him because I do believe that
he never told Christine and Janelle about that pre marital
affair because it was an ego thing, like he didn't
want to bring shame upon himself or show himself to
Janelle and Christine as if he didn't have the appropriate
(34:05):
Mormon values, right, So that's why he didn't.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Do it well. And it would make sense because Janelle
and Christine were like pretty heavy in the faith, I mean,
not that.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Mary was married before those well yeah, and she had
gotten a deep dick in from from Mary's brother. Yeah,
she really.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Would have been fine with yeah, but that's it was
kind of interesting that he says this, and he's like, oh,
I didn't tell the otherwise because they weren't safe. Because
Christine talks about how she felt like that was a
big betrayal, like just another one to add to the list,
because apparently after twenty seven years of marriage, like I
was just not safe, Like I don't know what I
did to not be safe. And it's just like, well,
(34:40):
Cody didn't love you, Like that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
He didn't care, he didn't care about and he neglected you.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
By the time we meet you Christine in season one,
he's neglecting you and he's not sharing about you at all.
And maybe he was a great husband before, but we
just never saw this is the only relationship we've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Even then, I questioned how good he was because he
was like the first guy she was ever really with,
so she didn't have any other frame of reference. He
probably was doing the absolute bare minimum. I thought it
were fine, yep, and it's sad. And then we get
to the last clip of the episode, which is about
the Sedona marriage retreat, and then Suki asks the dumb
fucking question, the dumbest question to ask you.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
No, First, she asked, Christine, are you happier now or
were you happier then in the season that you went
to Sedona and had to get in your circle and
tell everybody that you were completely disconnected from her husband
and unloved truly, like, are you happier now? Obviously? Yes,
I'm happier now. I'm monogamous and married to David. He
(35:44):
breaks my back, he blows my back out. He blows
my backout. Sorry, I'm tired, he blows my back out.
I'm financially independent. I have like four homes or would
have I lost forty pounds, I'm in great shape and
I'm in my life. I got a titty tattoo. That's
a dumb question, Suki.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So I'm just like, why are we even asking, right?
So stupid to like waste the last like twenty minutes
of the episode, like, are you happy we live polygamy again? Janelle?
Are you open to polygamy? Mary? Are you open to polygamy?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
We've already asked good questions.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Robin, are you open tot polygamy? Right? And it's like
all the same answers that we've already said, Like Mary
will never do it again because she's gonna be monogamous.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Although she believes that polygamy can work in the right situation.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yep. Janelle says she's kind of open to it, but
then she looks at her monogamous you know kids and
their marriages, and it's like, oh, yeah, maybe I want that. Yeah,
maybe I want one man to give me a dig down,
right and only that. And then Robin is like, well,
I'll only do it if I get a crazy guarantee
that it'll work, and then I can siphon all of
the money for my other sister wives and they will
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not complain about it, and only if Cody's okay with it,
but he's not okay.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
With it, and only if Sister Wives is canceled, unless
Cody considers getting another wife, because if they give us
an ultimatum, then we'll absolutely do it, yeah, or we'll
end up on marriage boot.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Camp exactly, Like could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I would love it.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I would love that they still do that. I would
actually watch that.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
If it was Cody, we would recap it. He would
all be in the dumpster together, be so good.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And then Cody talks about they talk about like if
Cody and Robin ever break up, that they would never
speak badly of each other because they have so much
deep love for each other.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
She would throw him under the bus in a hot minute.
That's like, look what she did to her first husband.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
She would take all of your kids and leave. And honestly,
I kind of want that to happen me too. I
don't want to.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Just sit there in Flagstaff in shock, Oh my god,
having lost everything, that big ugly new mansion foreclosed ponds,
Rob skipping out of town with some new aub daddy.
Who you got? You got? Nobody be calling it Mary
in parauad You're dating into Bud and marry so awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Mary would take him back in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
As of this filming of this, tell all, I kind
of feel like she would.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Dude, if Robin left him and he had nobody else,
and no young girl wants to fuck that guy. He
would totally go to Mary, and Mary be like, oh
my god, I've been waiting for this day. Mm hmm,
am I worthy?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Now, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Don't want to like shit all over Mary, but like
I do this epic of her, I'm just like, I'm
so tired of her defending.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
She could have done it so much differently.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
She's like trying to like position herself as like, oh,
I'm just like being nice and like I'm being the
bigger person by not talking badly. It's like, but we
want you to talk badly.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
We need truth tellers. We need people to expose the hypocrisy.
We need you to be honest. It's very, very important
that you are. But let's keep in mind again we
say that this was filmed in October of last year,
and I think what we had one month of episodes
that were out by that point. Yeah, So when Mary's
filming this, she hasn't seen the entire season like the
(39:00):
rest of us have seen, so she doesn't see all
the other things that Cody has said, to include calling
Jen and her friends bitches and such, which made her
very upset. So maybe that will be the impetus for
us to get like a different Mary with a little
bit of fire in truth Telling for season twenty. But
I highly doubt it because she disappoints us season after
(39:22):
season after season, and I think it's okay to call
it out. Mary, you can do so much better, and
you should.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And the other layer to that is like, maybe she
just needs to get her back.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Look, maybe she needs to meet like a real man,
a good man, good somebody who takes care of her,
puts her first, and she can see what that life
is really like, because did she ever have that with Cody. Yes,
they had young love, maybe they were their first loves,
but she's probably never had that kind of a relationship
(39:54):
that so many of us have been able to enjoy.
So I do think that would in a moment change
her parents.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Oh definitely, because she says in this episode it's been
a very very very very long time since she's gotten
a good deep dicken, And so I'm like, maybe you
need that, because maybe you'll see the light and you'll
realize that simping over Cody Brown is not the.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Look, not at all.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And I guess that's kind of how we ended the
episode with Sukie thanking everybody for their time, and she
really hopes that one day we could do it all
on the same couch with everybody in the same room,
and Cody's like, that's never gonna happen because I'm the director.
And then she thanks Cody for his vulnerability and his
honesty and his accountability, and that shit pisses me off
(40:40):
because I'm like, what honesty? What accountability? He hasn't been
accountable for literally anything, literally, and the.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Name one thing that he was actually accountable for in
this tale all.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Like, I guess he admitted to actually loving Mary back
in the day and he actually did love the OG three,
but that's literally it. Oh And I forgot to mention
that when she asks them, would they do it all
over again?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Would they do polygamy all over again? Yeah? And Cody
says no. Yeah, he says no, even if I went
back in time, I still wouldn't do it again.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
That was wild because I thought when he was saying no,
he was saying I wouldn't do it now, yeah, like
it would never be a polygamist again because I've already
failed it that But like he did say that he
wouldn't do it all over again, didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
He Yes, he said I would not do it over again.
And then he backtracks and he's like, but I mean,
I'm grateful for my kids and the experience that I had,
but like, I still would never do it again. And
then he literally calls it a waste of time, Like, okay,
but everybody else is mean though, right when you're talking
about your eighteen children and how that was a waste
(41:47):
of time and how this family that you created with
your sperm and everything was a waste of time and
you wouldn't do it over again.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Well, he was just being reactive. Yeah, we can't blame
him for.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
That reactionary abuse because he's a trauma victim.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
That's right. Handle him with kid gloves, very gentle with
Cody Brown.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I hate him, man, I hate him and his goblin
wife and I hate them.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I just hate like on our planet right now, just
people getting away with so much horseship, I know, being
like absolute bastards and demons on the planet, and it's
like unchecked, there's no accountability, and I'm like, this is
just metastasized in the form of Cody Brown just getting
away with it and prospering, even though he's a wicked
(42:36):
person and he's treated people deplorably. It's like David crying
out to God, Why Father, Why do the wicked prosper?
And then here I am struggling in the wilderness. That's
how I feel.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Why does coldy Why do they.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Get to prosper? I don't understand. But God is in
charge of all that. Vengeance is mine saith, the lore.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And they don't deserve it, so it will come.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yes, there's universal checks and balances in play at all times,
so I'm just not going to be upset about it anymore.
I'm going to take this summer off yep with the
rest of you raccoons, enjoy myself. I'm not gonna worry
about these people. You know, it's been ten months that
we've been doing.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
This ten ten months, and this season ten months.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Oh did you start in September? I think we did September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June. Bitch, bitch, June, bitch.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
This is ridiculous. Ten months with a month long hiatus
in the middle of this season was absolutely way too long.
If season twenty is another thirty episodes. I'm going to scream.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But yeah, I will be very upset. I'm going to scream,
and it's not because we know it's going to be bad,
and it is because they're going to give us nothing
and we already know about Coyote passic. There's nothing new
under the sun that you could give us. But it's
because they will be enriched yep by thirty episodes worth
of content.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
And that's the thing. I wish we knew how much
they got paid per episode because I'm just like really
waiting for their inevitable foreclosure and they're inevitable bankruptcy because
these two jobless losers are just using sister wives yep
to pay for their mortgage.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yes, after they, in my opinion, stole all the money
out of the family LLC YEP and stole away with
it so they could have all their tacky assets.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And I'm sorry, I love the OG three, but like,
these OG three are not suing him for every fucking
penny that he stole from them.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
I don't understand. Yeah, it's not right. And then we
have Christine though ye who does currently have an active lawsuit,
and she will get access to those financial records. I
would imagine her attorney's going to have to figure out
how much Cody's making every year, and then she's going
to be able to figure out her child support from that.
But I don't think we're going to be privy to
that information.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Wish we could be.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I wish.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, So this is it, This is it. This is
the end, my friend, we made. Wow, God put me
out of my misery. Dude, stick a fore me so
over it. But you know what, I've enjoyed recapping it
with you.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
I've enjoyed meeting with y'all every week and talking about
the Sister Wives. And believe me when I say we're
going to continue our conversation on Sister Wives. We're going
to pick up in season six of Sister Wives to
do our rewinds. Not next week, but we'll start it
the week after that, and we will continue to have
our conversation owns about what we're going to be watching
(45:33):
this summer because there are some options. People did write
in with their opinions with a lot of them, so
a lot of opinions, and so we're considering all of that.
But right now, like you, we just need a break
from this horseship. Take a nap, that's absolutely right in
a coffin. Yeah, take a nap in a coffin. Well,
is there anything else that we need to say to
these beautiful raccoons before we get up on ada here bhs?
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Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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We are here for the conclusion finally of Sister Wives
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season nineteen. We're gonna be recapping the fourth out of
four of the tail alls.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I'm going astrol.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
My god, I am so over it. I can't even
articulate how over it I am. But we're gonna have
a little fun and see these browns off. But before
we do, we have to issue you a disclaimer. Please,
Haji your wife and hajakiads. This is a politically in
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And so if you're all sensitive, meaning you might want
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Speaker 2 (01:59):
We're at five point.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
We're at base camp two. Yeah, base camp too, and
I'm excited. I'm acclamating it. So thank you in advances. Now,
I just have to warn everybody my energy is a
little low tonight because my husband, her freaking husband. My husband.
Oh I love don't get me wrong, we love him
very much. He traveled yet again.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
He got his big ol' tixis body on a plane,
went to Boston, and the day before he comes home
he texts me yet again.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Every time.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm getting sick, every time, every every time time he travels,
literally every time.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's always at the end of his trip.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
He'll message you late at night, I'm getting sick, I know.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
And then he brings that crud home to me, and
then within four days or whatever, you're still getting sick,
and so I'm starting to get sick.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah. Plus, I'm just over it with sister wives. I'm stas.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
So if I'm a little weird or if I just
don't get that is why. If I'm just I ain't
got nothing for these people. Not over it, nothing, Any
takeaway from you after watching the final tell all, my friend.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I mean, I got two takeaways. Okay, one, I'm also
over it. I'm so tired of it. After this tell all,
I'm like, I don't remember anything. I don't know what
y'all are saying. I don't care what y'all are saying.
My second takeaway is that it's too much Cody and Robin. Yeah,
like so many clips of Cody and Robin. I'm like,
I don't care about these people. I don't care about
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your dumb love story.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Your sex before marriage.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Lightning bolts, and your pussies.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
I don't care about that.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I don't give it.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I know nobody does. No, that's your thought. Yes, I
think we all agree. I think we can go sign
on that one. My thought is just I need a break.
I just need a break. I think next week, if
we could just take a week off, sounds great before
we dive right back into rewind and I know, welcome
to Plaid phill is coming back? When is that again?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
July July something? July eighteenth, twenty is?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I thought it was like in the beginning of July.
I don't tell July, like we're still commiserating as to
whether we're going to watch that, so before we start
watching anything new and covering the old stuff too, Like,
I just need a week, yeah, to take a break,
to get into coffin with some of those little brown
kids and just just have a moment to myself in
the dark. That is what I need. I think that's fair, Okay,
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And so next week we are not going to be here,
but we're going to be continuing to put content up
on our Patreon. See if you still want to hear
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after this week, make sure to subscribe to our Patreon,
please and thank you. All right, well, take it away
for this final recap of season nineteen, episode twenty nine,
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twenty nine.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Wow, absolutely insane, way too long for a season in
my opinion. But we start off wrapping up the conversation
from last week about the freak and luggage Rag who
Cares and Robin getting her needs met aka her box it,
And then we talk about Cody and his obsession with
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appearances and people looking good who cares, which we talked
about a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
We had already talked about this to death, I mean
to my death in a coughin I'm dead.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Like we're talking about the camping story again and showing
the clip of Christine in the U haul with David
talking about the camps we.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Had already seen. First of all, we saw it the
first time they aired it hut out, and then we.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Saw it the second time during the tail all the
year we played it, Yeah, and now we got to
watch it again.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, and now we have to talk about it again
about how Cody is self centered and he only cares
about appearances.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yes we know, duh, Yes we know. Tell me something
I haven't heard it.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The only thing that was interesting about this was that
Robin with her hard jaw, is denying the camping story
even though it's literally on film.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Doesn't she know that it's on film? Doesn't know that
Hunter was getting upset because no, he was helping. Doesn't
she know that there is footage of her putting on
her beat makeup and getting herself together out in Big
Bear or whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I don't recall, gosh, I don't recall I remember pitching in.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I'm sure I pitched in, though I like cooked her something.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I took turns cooking. I did my fair share. They're
just poking fun at me. That's not true, she says, yes,
when it's on film. I'm just like, why aren't we
calling her out?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Like why would it cost you production to just roll
the tape? I wunder and just roll the damp tape.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They show it in the clip like they show like
a montage to us. I don't think they showed it
to them.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Watch the clips.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
She won't.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So maybe Sukie could have said something like, well, if
you had watched the clip, then we just showed you
you would have saw yourself put in the makeup on.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
She would have just said some shit like oh, they
edited it, they edited it out. I was actually helping,
like she probably would have just made it up. I'm
just like Robin.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Lies on lies on lies on lies.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I mean, why can't would it kill you to tell
the truth once in your life.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
She doesn't know how, No, she is not in her No.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Not at all. And then we have David on the
couch for some reason talking about polygamy, talking about how
it's all about control, how he apparently dated other ex
polygamous women and the men just completely ruined them. But
thank god for.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
CHRISTINEO Diamond in the Rough. Yeah, that was a little
bit of an ify commentary a lot of women in general.
But I mean he does have family members, sisters, yeah,
specifically who are in or were in polygamy, so he
did have some observations. But yeah, it sucks. Polygamy is
terrible to women, polygamy is terrible for children, and he
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knows it and he's seen it firsthand.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I would like to hear those comments from the women, though,
you know what I mean, Like David's the one that's
articulating it. But I'm like Christine, like you have said
a million times on our episodes, like Christine was the
one championing polygamy and advocating for it and these earlier
seasons like it'd be cool she just said, Yeah, I
realized that polygamy is actually fucking bad for women. Yeah,
and not empowering at all. And really awful.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
That's a really good point because we do see Christine
advocating for herself and calling things out in the relationship
with Cody and within the family structure, but like, she's
really not commenting a lot on polygamy in general or
the religion in general, even though she has left it.
I don't know if she believes anymore. I don't know
what the status of her faith is. It would be
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great if we could get something from her on that.
But no, but no, but alass nothing for us Raccoons,
the dubut nothing at all, the faithful fans of this
freaking show. Maybe it'll be in her book, which we're
gonna have to buy for thirty four dollars inflation.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's not even written by her, I.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Know, it's totally AI chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And then we talk about Cody putting himself first, like
we didn't already know that, and we have Mary defending
the fact that.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I'm ending this season hating Mary again. Oh my god, Mary,
I thought you were worthying of. No. I thought you
were trying to show up for women. I thought you
were doing some motivational speaking for women to encourage them
to better their lives. And this is what you're giving us. Well, yeah,
of course he puts himself first, but so do I,
so does everybody every once in a while. Oh my god,
miss me.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
With that, she feels like she's the worst. It kind
of feels like she thinks that she's being so profound
by saying that. No, I see all sides of it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, and so diploma.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Everyone can be kind of selfish. Sometimes it's like, no,
it's not what we're saying. We're saying that Cody objectively
always puts himself first.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and it was, as a matter of fact, abusive
to his wives. Yeah, at least on television, we saw
him be verbally and emotionally abusive to his wives and
to his children. Hello. And so if you want to
be some sort of paragon of values and what women
should be doing in terms of advocating for themselves, then
call the crap out honestly.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But she can't do.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It, which is why I don't trust her. Me neither,
and that she's worthied of.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I don't think so talk about trusting how she said
last episode, I don't know who to trust. I can't
trust you.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Everybody can trust her, God, nobody can trust her.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
And then we have Christine saying that she was never
really respected from Cody or by Cody as a wife,
as a mother, as a person, and Cody was calling
her a shitter wife instead of sister shy.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
That's a crazy Was that a joke? I don't think
is he walking around calling them sh It's kind of funny,
but terrible, very bad. But do we think that back
in the day, like during Lehigh and certainly in the
beginning when they moved to Vegas, that Cody really didn't
value her for being a mom and taking care of
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all of his whole mess of kids.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It's hard to say, because I feel like if Cody
was the same person that we see now back then,
even slightly, I could see him not really respecting her.
But like, at the same time, I wonder if Christine's
just painting it bad because like their whole marriage was bad.
Maybe that's the case. But at the same time, Christine
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was the basement wife, so maybe she wasn't really respected
because she was the one stuck in the basement and
forced to take care of all the kids and homeschool
them and everything.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
Yeah, I don't know. I just I find it kind
of hard to believe that he never valued her, or
that he never worked for the family and worked to
please his wives. I think once Robin entered the scene,
that is when everything shifted. Yeah, that is when things
got bad, and all of the marriage is zilla except
for Robinson.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, agreed. And then the last part of this section
was Cody talking about how he was mean to the
og wives only as a reaction to them being did
not believe it was Counterpunchy was.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Saying that like that it was reactive abuse, Like I'm
being abused by these women who were trashing me on TV,
and so of course I'm going to react to that.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, you're the one.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Who did the knife and the kidneys. Christine is sitting
there peaceible, saying nothing, and you're the one screaming.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, we saw all.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Of those meetings you had with her at the big
Mormon conference table negotiating your divorce. She was eminently respectful.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
She didn't ask for hardly anything but what she put
into her own house in order to leave. Like, what
are you talking about the only person who started the
campaign against the wives and the kids who you called
assholes by Yeah, how you called your son's assholes and
you've called out Maddie, that's you. Yeah, none of that
was reactive. I just couldn't believe it. And I think
Robin said something somewhere in this episode as well, like
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that her family was taken from her. Yes, I'm like
that the family and the dream was taken from you. No,
you destroyed it. You had a hand in dismantling it.
But the language that they used to describe what's happened
when we've all seen it is just so wild and
disturbing to me.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh, they're like straight up delusional. Like when he's saying this,
I'm like, are you for real right now? Like that's
how you person this situation? Like are we gonna forget
about the fact that you told Christine that she was
repulsive when she ate nachos and that you were never
physically attracted to her and that you didn't want to
have any intimacy with her whatsoever. But that's not mean.
That's just you telling her the truth that you're gonna
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cut off an intimate marriage with her, and then she
leaves you, and that's mean. So now it justifies you
screaming at her and saying all this bullshit for the
last couple of seasons, and I think Robin said at
some point, like, you know, I feel like really bad
because the world only gets to see this one version
of Cody, which is this mean version, and it's the
worst version of him, you know, but he's actually like
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a good guy though, right, Like okay, miss me with that.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Well, I think she was trying to say that for
the last three to four years specifically, like this version
of Cody has been like who people have been seeing,
but that that's not who he is. Like he's the
Cody from way back in the day. Sure now emerging
from his angry season, his mannosphere hate, and he's starting
to be happy again. So but I'm just like, yeah, no, yeah, whatever.
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He's always been problematic, and.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I feel like somebody talked to him. I feel like
somebody in production talked to him about how he came
off the last couple of seasons. Was like, dude, they
pulled a scandalal and like, hey, we have to rehab
your image a little bit, right, right, let's kind of
turn the tide so that way people stop hating you
because you're actually insane. But I don't know, I just
couldn't believe he said that. I was really mean because
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they were mean to me.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
For he and Janelle is the Ariana Maddox in this
scenario because she's just like, I just don't care, like
at all, don't I'm just gonna walk out in this
entire situation. I'm not going to comment on it. Like whatever,
they can do, whatever they want to do. I'm over
here living my best life with my farm on farmers
only dot com or whatever, and I'm good, yes, And
I'm a sexual earth mama girl, I'm a Taurus. Has
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she been watching us?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I feel like watching I kind of felt like.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
It, and we have been out here saying that she
does give some sensual sl and she's got that Taurus
sensuality governed by venus. Yeah I get it. Oh yeah,
I get what she was putting down.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I loved that She's like, I'm a Taurus. I'm an
earth mama. I love everything earthy food, one sex. I'm like, yes, girl,
me more. Oh my god, find yourself a real man.
Get your back blown out.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
And she's talking about watching her kids who are married
and the relationships that they have and how the husbands
and she must be referring to Caleb. How Caleb dotes
on Maddie and how they're so connected, and she's like,
you know, maybe I'm ready for a relationship like that.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
I would love to see that me too. I would
love to see Janelle's dating journey instead of talking about
Cody and Robin and when they first met, because that's
the next clip that we get to where we go
to that stupid date in the addict of Josephine's Beastroom, right,
and Cody and Robin are recounting their love story and
the lightning bolts that they felt in both of their
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pussies and now they just fell for each other instantly.
Cody starts crying watching the clip back.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
I hate him so much. I feel like he's performative emotions. Yes,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I was just like, I feel like he does that
just so maybe we think that he's a human being
right with feelings. I think so, And I'm like, I don't.
I don't think of you as a human being. I
think you're a demon possessed, balding, saggy balls.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Piece of shit, a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Leyton Topin's homosexual.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Maybe probably end when we talk about it, because he
referred to it as his sexuality. I don't want to
talk about my sexuality.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Ain't nobody talking about his sexuality when you're talking about
your sexual experience. I caught that you're the one who
said you had them. And when he comes back the
next day, I guess, presumably to talk to Suki. Yeah,
all of a sudden about his sexuality and it was
a dangerous unsafe topic to discuss, Like, why is this
so unsafe.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Because you had a homosexual experience.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And he did say that they thought his high school
friends thought he was not just gay flamboyantly gay, flamboyantly
gay in high school.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
That means Robin probably pigs him. I've been saying I.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Feel and there's no shame in that. And if they
like that, I love that great, I guess. But yeah,
I was just like, oh, that was an interesting turn
of phrase.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
I saw that I heard.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I was like, did you pick up on that?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yes, I'm like you gay. And we've had several people
comment on YouTube saying the same thing that they think
Cody's gay.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Okay, I mean a little bit around the edges.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, yeah, at the very least bisex sicoal, Yeah, a
little bi curious. Sure, I don't know, but he's taught
he talks about in this clip at Josephine's Bistro, back
to how he told Robin like within a month of
dating about his college gay sex experience because she was
so trustworthy and she what did he say? Laid him
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down in a rose garden of trust.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
I immediately started drawing up merch on our canva. Did
you see it?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I saw it.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
It's a big at raccoon in the rose garden and
it's the rose Garden of trash, Like we need that shirt.
I hate it so much for real. Yeah, So I
just thought that he was being so ridiculous, and I
think Janelle addresses it in this episode when she talks
about how extra he's being. Why, Like, what's he getting
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out of talking about these subjects? Like previously, he never
wanted to talk about sex, never want to talk about money,
But here he is talking about both of these things,
and for what reason? To show us just how much
he loves Robin and how real their union is, therefore
maybe validating why he threw his entire rest of his
family away. Yep, that makes sense to me.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Oh, I think Janelle's clocking him every time she makes
a comment. I feel like she's right on the nose,
because I think she said something like he says all
of this shit about how Robin was safe and how
the OG three were not safe and he couldn't be
vulnerable with them because they were so unsafe, and how
it was all bullshit that he's just making up because
he's just trying to justify all the reasons why Robin
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is so perfect. And I thought that was kind of
an interesting like phrase, because maybe Cody doesn't think Robin's
like super perfect, but she's the only one that's left.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
I don't know. I'm conflicted on that because I do
think he is one hundred percent sprung for her. Yeah,
I think he is in love with her, but I
don't necessarily buy into their meat cute and how that
went down. And furthermore, like somebody correct me if I'm wrong,
I could a swore in season one, which we have
covered in our rewind like Mary was the one who
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said and like Cody and Mary talked about the fact
that Mary introduced Robin to Cody and yeah, my friends,
and I thought that I thought that that was established,
and now we have Mary saying I never introduced them.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, and she's like people are just making that up
in the Twitter sphere, and I'm like, what do you mean.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Absolutely not it.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
I feel like you asked about it. Yeah. Well, and
it's like the the way that they're recounting it is
so weird. Like Cody talks about his lightning bolt and
his pussy when he saw Robin at church, but they
didn't actually meet. They just saw each other from like
opposite side of the room.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
And then and he stared at her like in a
trance with a heart on, like just watching her, a
little noodle on, just watching her, and she was looking
at him, and then she had to look away because
he was being a pred and that was scary.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, And so they didn't actually talk. Yeah, that's when
apparently Robin got her lightning bolt, and clearly Cody got his.
But it wasn't until some other time when him and
Mary were in a car and they were on the
side of the road or something like that, Robin and
her cousin and her cousin's husband or something.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Something like that. But then they said that they met
at a dance.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Well, I mean, but they were talking on the side
of the road, and Cody's like, yeah, I didn't really
speak to her because I was a little bit embarrassed.
Completely was in a trance because of her beauty. I
was dissociating it was in the fifth dimension with you
because of the beauty of it at all. So I
didn't say anything. And then at some other point there
was a church.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Dance that they all went to.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Is anybody else curious, like what kind of music they're
listening to? You at a Mormon church dance?
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Mormon hymns?
Speaker 1 (21:16):
No Mormons have him of course? Oh yeah, okay, but
like really what kind of means?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I don't know, because.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Then he goes on to like quote the dance by
Garth Brooks at some point like maybe it.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Was Oh yeah, I was just trying to envision it.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
It was very strange.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
The kids bought version of Garth Brooks song.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
But like, also, did Cody say at one point like
Robin actually gave him the ick because she was married,
oh yeah and had divorced. Like he was not interested
in the least adag Yeah, I thought, he said. And
I'm like, okay, so now what about what you said
all those seasons ago? Is all of that just a lie?
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Or are you lying now? Make it makes sense.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, all of it I think is a lie
because they, like Christine said, they were so in love
they had to hide it. So what else were they hiding?
And then they had this long courtship of a year,
which Janelle comments on, and this is where she says,
we've seen it already in the brevious, that if she
had a year long courtship with Cody, she probably wouldn't
have married him, and that a married man having a
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year long courtship is not necessarily appropriate. But they still
did it anyway, and Christine even makes the assumption like, well,
what else were they doing? He was very comfortable at
her house, even in her bedroom, and so maybe they
fucked before marriage. I'm paraphrasing, but it's basically what Christine said.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
So where do we land with that? Do we think
that they were sexually intimate before they actually had this ceremony? Yes,
because when they panned to Robin and Suki has the
nerve to ask her whether she had sex before marriage
with Cody, Yeah, Rob is like, absolutely not. I mean,
all we did was church kiss. There was nothing there.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
She's such a liar, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
She seemed kind of convincing to me. Like she was
so taken aback that anybody would ever question that. But
then I go back through the rolodex of my mind
to season one during the wedding where she and Cody
pick out the wedding dress and pretend that she's going
to go shopping with the other wives, and everything is
a lie.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yep, So I think she was lying.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yeah. And her engagement photo with Cody, like she is,
she got that pushing it up against that nck. She
pressed into the neck of that man as if they
were acquainted one with the.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Other, And Christine says that too. She's like they were
awfully comfy in their engagement photos. So yeah, I think
Robin has just been saying that lie for the what
last twelve thirteen years that they've been together, So I
think she's good at lying it. But they one hundred
percent we're fucking before marriage, right.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
And this is where Christine I think is right and
is very believable when she's like they have to hide it,
and she has said in the past during these tellaws
that yeah, Cody I think fell in love yeah, and
did not really know what that felt like until he
met Robin. But because they were in the family that
they were in and now they had a television show
(24:04):
on top of that, they had to hide it. But
that's a lie. Yeah, And you didn't tell the truth
about the scope and the scale of your feelings, and
you led me on and then you turned off the
intimacy and you didn't respect the things that I was
bringing it into the family, And that's a lie. So
it's just betrayal after betrayal after betrayal. But exactly Cody
and Robin cannot not just acknowledge that. They can't even
(24:28):
admit that, No, they can't even approach admitting to that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
No. In fact, Cody talks about all of this stuff
we're saying as just being internet bs that everybody's saying
that we had the intentions of only being together as
just a bunch of drama. There was no real intent
to do that or just to be with each other.
But we fell in love. And then he goes on
to say that polygamy doesn't work if you actually fall
(24:53):
in love, and he fell in love hard, and so
it's like he's admitting it without really admitting it, and
that's what's so annoying about it, Like, why, yeah, you
just say that you fell out of love the second
you met Robin. With all the other wives, you could
have released them back then, but you wanted the money,
you wanted the show, you wanted the big houses in
the cul de Sac, and you, I guess you tried
(25:14):
to make it work, but like you didn't know.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
And he can't admit that it was Robin that changed everything.
And so this is why he says something like, well,
with Mary, it did start off as a love match
and a love connection, and it was very sweet and romantic,
but it died by like a thousand paper cuts or
whatever you set like something like again shifting the blame
back onto them. But really he's blaming Mary and their
(25:37):
behavior for the reason that their marriage didn't work, and
not Robin. And that's where he needs to be honest
and truthful, and honestly, I wouldn't care, Like if you
just came out and said, yeah, it was a thunderbolt
ride him a pussy yeah, And I just I could
not I could not even consider my other wives the
same anymore, Like everything changed on that day. Like if
you could admit that, I could accept that, and I
(25:58):
think for the other women and the kids could act.
But it's the fact that you just lie over and
over and over again, and you have the temerity to
do so while there is a visual record of you
doing the things you said you didn't do. It's crazy,
it's so, it's crazy making. It's a gas lighting, all yes.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
With Robin. It's like, why don't you just say it,
Why don't you just say that you knew you had
him ninety nine percent of the time and that you
understand why the other women felt like they were abandoned,
Like you just don't care. You only care about your money.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Do you think like that would make you look worse
than what you're doing in order to cover up the
fact that he was with you all the time, which
everybody already knows. Right, It's the thing, It doesn't make
any sense.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's like, I don't understand how they think, Like I
wonder if they actually believe all the lies that they're saying,
If they're like so in denial about the fact that
they just fell in love with each other, you think
they're just lying.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I think they know that they're lying. Yes, then what
and nobody's stopping them? And that's the thing they can
do that with impunity. Nobody's rolling the tapes so Kia's
not call them about Sukiana hasn't even watched the seasons, right,
she didn't even know that Cody was a wrestler or
like what kind of athletics he did. Like, there's a
lot of things that she just doesn't know in the
in the canon of Sister Wives, and so she can't
(27:12):
retort with something salient and say, well, what about this?
What about that? And so nobody ever does. And you
even hear him at the end of this episode telling
everybody to turn off the cameras, cut the camera.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
I know.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
So is he in charge of production? Why is production
just doing what the fuck Cody's telling them to do.
Why doesn't anybody push back? Because I'm telling you right now,
this is all he has, sister does all Cody and
Robin have? Sure, so you could absolutely push back. Why
aren't we doing that? I thought we got a new
production house or like a new person in charge of
(27:44):
the production house. It's like, where is the change? Why
are we continuing to coddle this man? And he was
triggering me, Beatrice with the way he was looking at Sukian. Oh,
there is something about it that reminded me of my
abusive father. Just like the he slows down and turns
and very threateningly looks at her and says, I'm not
(28:06):
talking about that anymore. Yeah, I'm just like, there is
a verbal threat, yep, and it's menacing to me. And
I'm sure that he wasn't physically threatening her in the moment,
But I wonder about how he conducts himself behind the scenes.
Oh yeah, in his various marriages and even with Robin,
I'm like, you're scary. There's parts of you that are
(28:27):
scaring me.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It's really freaking weird that production and Suki are like
I don't want to say that they're scared of him,
but they just placate him a lot. And I'm like,
why aren't we buying him? Like why are we even
allowing him to say I'm not going to answer that
or not going to talk about that. If he wants
to get up off set and leave and not get
paid for two other tellols let him fucking go because
(28:51):
I don't show his character. I don't know why we
have to like keep him on or like try and
be nice and say thank you for your account on
ability when he gave absolutely none.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Like, honestly, where's the value added? With Cody and Robin
because they don't tell the truth. They just obstruct and obfuscate,
like they screw up the timeline. They confuse the audience
because they're telling us that something didn't happen that we
already watched happen. And so what are they actually adding
to the story of Sister Wives at this point? Why
(29:24):
couldn't we just get rid of them or have them
be friends of like they do on the Bravo shows
and the Real Housewives. Robin can be a friend of
no one, Cody can be a friend of I don't know.
Is there a kid there's still who is she be
a friend of Mary's. Yes, he can travel to Parawan
every once in a while, and we can see what's
going on with Cody. But like they do not have
(29:44):
to be major cast members in the show. Get rid
of them.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I know. It's so weird. And I noticed his comment
at the end where he's like, cut the cameras, and
I'm like, are you just saying that to feel like
you're a big man, like you're the director, but you
actually aren't, like nobody's listening to you.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Well, they did, they cut the They do listen to
him and that's the question. Why why they do though, well,
and you know that they do because they don't challenge
him ever. And he is so puffed up with the
power of that he understands. Ain't nobody going to be
pushing him around. He can get away with whatever he
can try and front with Suki like this, and nobody's
(30:20):
going to do anything about it, And so he does it.
He doesn't have moral character, He doesn't have virtue in
my personal opinion, to talk to a woman like that
and to stare at a woman like that, to lean forward.
And he did it last year. He did and nobody
talked to him last year when he did it.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
No, I know he's comfortable to just do.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
It again this year. Oh my God, give me five
minutes with that small little man. Give me five.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Minutes with that small little bab you would be I.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Will teach him a lesson. I will teach that man
a lesson. I wouldn't be scared to do so. God,
And I just feel it's on the tip of Suki's tongue.
But she's a smart woman. I actually went on her
Instagram to because I wanted to see if there was
any new posts from her, because she hadn't posted pretty
much at all through thee she got so much hate, right,
(31:09):
but there were a couple of clips from her interview
with Sarah Frasier, and then there were people on the
posts just kind of slamming her, like why didn't you
ask her? Why didn't you ask them the questions? Why
don't you know what you're talking about? And I just
left her a message and said, hey, I think you
did a good job. I know it must have been
very difficult to have to finesse this interview employee strategy
(31:32):
just to get them to say anything like you did
a good job and thank you very much, because I
just feel like, what a thankless job Suki has.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
I mean really though, And like I'm of two minds
with Suki. It's like I get that you have to
tread lightly with these narcissistic demons like Robin and Cody,
I understand, And like maybe she's held to a certain
contract with production too, like maybe they're like you can't
ask him certain things or you can't do these kinds
of things. I get that it's difficult. Well, it's just
(32:00):
so fucking frustrating to watch it, and I just don't
understand why Production does this, and like, why we are
being so kind to Cody and Robin, Like when everyone
in the entire world hates them, like every single I
don't think there's anybody that's like, you know what, I
think Rabbit's a good person.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
And yeah, and they're hated bulls. Yeah, and their actions
have they become hatterable people. Right, It's not like we
hate them in a vacuum. It's they've done terrible, despicable things.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
That we're not addressing to their family, and.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
We're just not able to talk about any of it.
And if we do, they're just gonna lie about it
and we're not going to challenge them.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, it's crazy. Well, and it's like with Cody getting
mad at Suki for asking him about his homosexuality, and like,
you're the one that problems up, dude. I think you're
the one that talked about your college gay sex experience, right, didn't.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
He gets so angry because he frames it as some
sort of a trap, like she was asking inappropriate questions
and he was so kind to be generous and give
her some information, but like she kept pressing it and
he's really angry about it. I'm just like, get over yourself, dude, Honest,
you're the one who's mentioned before that you had a
pre marital relationship in college or whatever. Did he even
(33:05):
go to college? Did he go to college? Maybe associates, okay,
but whatever. But you're the one who've already entered into
evidence that bit of information.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
So I don't know why you're so upset about it.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
I don't understand it. You're the one that brought out
the story, but then you don't want people to ask
you about it.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Maybe because if we dig a little deeper, maybe we
can find out who it was that you actually had
a pre marital affair with. And what if it's a bead,
it probably it probably is juice.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I would love to know.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
Good.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
You imagine if Harry actually is a man out there
that like fucked Cody Brown, he's just like sitting on
that secret, just waiting for the perfect time to talk
about it. I would love that.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Yeah. I would love it as well. And it would
be perfect karma for him because I do believe that
he never told Christine and Janelle about that pre marital
affair because it was an ego thing, like he didn't
want to bring shame upon himself or show himself to
Janelle and Christine as if he didn't have the appropriate
(34:05):
Mormon values, right, So that's why he didn't.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Do it well. And it would make sense because Janelle
and Christine were like pretty heavy in the faith, I mean,
not that.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Mary was married before those well yeah, and she had
gotten a deep dick in from from Mary's brother. Yeah,
she really.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Would have been fine with yeah, but that's it was
kind of interesting that he says this, and he's like, oh,
I didn't tell the otherwise because they weren't safe. Because
Christine talks about how she felt like that was a
big betrayal, like just another one to add to the list,
because apparently after twenty seven years of marriage, like I
was just not safe, Like I don't know what I
did to not be safe. And it's just like, well,
(34:40):
Cody didn't love you, Like that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
He didn't care, he didn't care about and he neglected you.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
By the time we meet you Christine in season one,
he's neglecting you and he's not sharing about you at all.
And maybe he was a great husband before, but we
just never saw this is the only relationship we've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Even then, I questioned how good he was because he
was like the first guy she was ever really with,
so she didn't have any other frame of reference. He
probably was doing the absolute bare minimum. I thought it
were fine, yep, and it's sad. And then we get
to the last clip of the episode, which is about
the Sedona marriage retreat, and then Suki asks the dumb
fucking question, the dumbest question to ask you.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
No, First, she asked, Christine, are you happier now or
were you happier then in the season that you went
to Sedona and had to get in your circle and
tell everybody that you were completely disconnected from her husband
and unloved truly, like, are you happier now? Obviously? Yes,
I'm happier now. I'm monogamous and married to David. He
(35:44):
breaks my back, he blows my back out. He blows
my backout. Sorry, I'm tired, he blows my back out.
I'm financially independent. I have like four homes or would
have I lost forty pounds, I'm in great shape and
I'm in my life. I got a titty tattoo. That's
a dumb question, Suki.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
So I'm just like, why are we even asking, right?
So stupid to like waste the last like twenty minutes
of the episode, like, are you happy we live polygamy again? Janelle?
Are you open to polygamy? Mary? Are you open to polygamy?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
We've already asked good questions.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Robin, are you open tot polygamy? Right? And it's like
all the same answers that we've already said, Like Mary
will never do it again because she's gonna be monogamous.
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Although she believes that polygamy can work in the right situation.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Yep. Janelle says she's kind of open to it, but
then she looks at her monogamous you know kids and
their marriages, and it's like, oh, yeah, maybe I want that. Yeah,
maybe I want one man to give me a dig down,
right and only that. And then Robin is like, well,
I'll only do it if I get a crazy guarantee
that it'll work, and then I can siphon all of
the money for my other sister wives and they will
(36:50):
not complain about it, and only if Cody's okay with it,
but he's not okay.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
With it, and only if Sister Wives is canceled, unless
Cody considers getting another wife, because if they give us
an ultimatum, then we'll absolutely do it, yeah, or we'll
end up on marriage boot.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Camp exactly, Like could you imagine?
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I would love it.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I would love that they still do that. I would
actually watch that.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
If it was Cody, we would recap it. He would
all be in the dumpster together, be so good.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
And then Cody talks about they talk about like if
Cody and Robin ever break up, that they would never
speak badly of each other because they have so much
deep love for each other.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
She would throw him under the bus in a hot minute.
That's like, look what she did to her first husband.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
She would take all of your kids and leave. And honestly,
I kind of want that to happen me too. I
don't want to.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Just sit there in Flagstaff in shock, Oh my god,
having lost everything, that big ugly new mansion foreclosed ponds,
Rob skipping out of town with some new aub daddy.
Who you got? You got? Nobody be calling it Mary
in parauad You're dating into Bud and marry so awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Mary would take him back in a heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
As of this filming of this, tell all, I kind
of feel like she would.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Dude, if Robin left him and he had nobody else,
and no young girl wants to fuck that guy. He
would totally go to Mary, and Mary be like, oh
my god, I've been waiting for this day. Mm hmm,
am I worthy?
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Now, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Don't want to like shit all over Mary, but like
I do this epic of her, I'm just like, I'm
so tired of her defending.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
She could have done it so much differently.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
She's like trying to like position herself as like, oh,
I'm just like being nice and like I'm being the
bigger person by not talking badly. It's like, but we
want you to talk badly.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
We need truth tellers. We need people to expose the hypocrisy.
We need you to be honest. It's very, very important
that you are. But let's keep in mind again we
say that this was filmed in October of last year,
and I think what we had one month of episodes
that were out by that point. Yeah, So when Mary's
filming this, she hasn't seen the entire season like the
(39:00):
rest of us have seen, so she doesn't see all
the other things that Cody has said, to include calling
Jen and her friends bitches and such, which made her
very upset. So maybe that will be the impetus for
us to get like a different Mary with a little
bit of fire in truth Telling for season twenty. But
I highly doubt it because she disappoints us season after
(39:22):
season after season, and I think it's okay to call
it out. Mary, you can do so much better, and
you should.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
And the other layer to that is like, maybe she
just needs to get her back.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
Look, maybe she needs to meet like a real man,
a good man, good somebody who takes care of her,
puts her first, and she can see what that life
is really like, because did she ever have that with Cody. Yes,
they had young love, maybe they were their first loves,
but she's probably never had that kind of a relationship
(39:54):
that so many of us have been able to enjoy.
So I do think that would in a moment change
her parents.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
Oh definitely, because she says in this episode it's been
a very very very very long time since she's gotten
a good deep dicken, And so I'm like, maybe you
need that, because maybe you'll see the light and you'll
realize that simping over Cody Brown is not the.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Look, not at all.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
And I guess that's kind of how we ended the
episode with Sukie thanking everybody for their time, and she
really hopes that one day we could do it all
on the same couch with everybody in the same room,
and Cody's like, that's never gonna happen because I'm the director.
And then she thanks Cody for his vulnerability and his
honesty and his accountability, and that shit pisses me off
(40:40):
because I'm like, what honesty? What accountability? He hasn't been
accountable for literally anything, literally, and the.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Name one thing that he was actually accountable for in
this tale all.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Like, I guess he admitted to actually loving Mary back
in the day and he actually did love the OG three,
but that's literally it. Oh And I forgot to mention
that when she asks them, would they do it all
over again?
Speaker 1 (41:04):
Right?
Speaker 2 (41:04):
Would they do polygamy all over again? Yeah? And Cody
says no. Yeah, he says no, even if I went
back in time, I still wouldn't do it again.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
That was wild because I thought when he was saying no,
he was saying I wouldn't do it now, yeah, like
it would never be a polygamist again because I've already
failed it that But like he did say that he
wouldn't do it all over again, didn't.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
He Yes, he said I would not do it over again.
And then he backtracks and he's like, but I mean,
I'm grateful for my kids and the experience that I had,
but like, I still would never do it again. And
then he literally calls it a waste of time, Like, okay,
but everybody else is mean though, right when you're talking
about your eighteen children and how that was a waste
(41:47):
of time and how this family that you created with
your sperm and everything was a waste of time and
you wouldn't do it over again.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Well, he was just being reactive. Yeah, we can't blame
him for.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
That reactionary abuse because he's a trauma victim.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
That's right. Handle him with kid gloves, very gentle with
Cody Brown.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
I hate him, man, I hate him and his goblin
wife and I hate them.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
I just hate like on our planet right now, just
people getting away with so much horseship, I know, being
like absolute bastards and demons on the planet, and it's
like unchecked, there's no accountability, and I'm like, this is
just metastasized in the form of Cody Brown just getting
away with it and prospering, even though he's a wicked
(42:36):
person and he's treated people deplorably. It's like David crying
out to God, Why Father, Why do the wicked prosper?
And then here I am struggling in the wilderness. That's
how I feel.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Why does coldy Why do they.
Speaker 1 (42:49):
Get to prosper? I don't understand. But God is in
charge of all that. Vengeance is mine saith, the lore.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And they don't deserve it, so it will come.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Yes, there's universal checks and balances in play at all times,
so I'm just not going to be upset about it anymore.
I'm going to take this summer off yep with the
rest of you raccoons, enjoy myself. I'm not gonna worry
about these people. You know, it's been ten months that
we've been doing.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
This ten ten months, and this season ten months.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Oh did you start in September? I think we did September, October, November, December, January, February, March, April, May, June. Bitch, bitch, June, bitch.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
This is ridiculous. Ten months with a month long hiatus
in the middle of this season was absolutely way too long.
If season twenty is another thirty episodes. I'm going to scream.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
But yeah, I will be very upset. I'm going to scream,
and it's not because we know it's going to be bad,
and it is because they're going to give us nothing
and we already know about Coyote passic. There's nothing new
under the sun that you could give us. But it's
because they will be enriched yep by thirty episodes worth
of content.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
And that's the thing. I wish we knew how much
they got paid per episode because I'm just like really
waiting for their inevitable foreclosure and they're inevitable bankruptcy because
these two jobless losers are just using sister wives yep
to pay for their mortgage.
Speaker 1 (44:17):
Yes, after they, in my opinion, stole all the money
out of the family LLC YEP and stole away with
it so they could have all their tacky assets.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And I'm sorry, I love the OG three, but like,
these OG three are not suing him for every fucking
penny that he stole from them.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
I don't understand. Yeah, it's not right. And then we
have Christine though ye who does currently have an active lawsuit,
and she will get access to those financial records. I
would imagine her attorney's going to have to figure out
how much Cody's making every year, and then she's going
to be able to figure out her child support from that.
But I don't think we're going to be privy to
that information.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
Probably not.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Wish we could be.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
I wish.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Yeah, So this is it, This is it. This is
the end, my friend, we made. Wow, God put me
out of my misery. Dude, stick a fore me so
over it. But you know what, I've enjoyed recapping it
with you.
Speaker 2 (45:11):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
I've enjoyed meeting with y'all every week and talking about
the Sister Wives. And believe me when I say we're
going to continue our conversation on Sister Wives. We're going
to pick up in season six of Sister Wives to
do our rewinds. Not next week, but we'll start it
the week after that, and we will continue to have
our conversation owns about what we're going to be watching
(45:33):
this summer because there are some options. People did write
in with their opinions with a lot of them, so
a lot of opinions, and so we're considering all of that.
But right now, like you, we just need a break
from this horseship. Take a nap, that's absolutely right in
a coffin. Yeah, take a nap in a coffin. Well,
is there anything else that we need to say to
these beautiful raccoons before we get up on ada here bhs?
Speaker 2 (45:56):
Well, if you love our podcast, please go to your
favorite podcast pop formal. Leave us a glowing five star review.
Really helps uscroll the pod some more people can join
us in the dumpster. We really appreciate it, so thank you.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
We will not be back next week with any content
unless you are on Patreon. We are doing a valley
drop this Friday. We're doing a valley drop next week
as well, so definitely join us there and to keep
the party going. We'll be back the week after that
to continue the Sister Wife's conversation. But until that, please
do not forget that we have nothing but love for
you and pease, oh my mite it
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