July 9, 2025 • 45 mins
Kody's long-lost best friend (and potential ex-lover) comes into town for Boys Night Out! Kody gets called out for being a beta and bungee jumps off the Stratosphere, the wives go to the Zoo and talk about how they never hang out together, and Leon is off to college, leaving Meri a sad, empty nester. Stay tuned for the after show (for VIP Patreon Raccoons only!) where we discuss our gay conspiracies and some crazy drama surrounding Welcome to Plathville!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with my real
tight homegirl and my daughter in law, the beauteous Bedre.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We are here to talk sister wives, hoodie. We are
currently in season six going through the archives and the
Mormon records. We're in the temple looking at all the
names on all the lists to see what's happening, and
we're having a good time doing so because, as you know,
everyone has moved into the cul de sac. The children
(00:41):
have reintegrated and are strengthening their family bonds. However, the
wives are having a bit of a problem in that
regard because they don't seem to like each other very much.
I don't know what's happening. I do have some suspicions. Yeah.
For example, I think Cody is already spending all of
his time at Robin, and now all the other wives
(01:02):
can see it firsthand with their own eyeballs, and so
there are some problems with the Browns. It's juicy. Now,
before we get into this episode, we do have to
issue you a disclaimer. Please hi'd your wife and Hydro kids.
This is a politically incorrect comedy comedy podcast. We are
insufferably stupid. Yeah, we have dumb opinions, we say dumb things,
(01:27):
and so if you're.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Go cry in the corner bye.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
You might want to find yourself another dumpster. But if
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And if you like what we do over here, please
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Speaker 1 (01:54):
My god, it is crazy. It's so much fun. By
the way, did you see that? Just today? Kristin Dodie
made an Instagram post in which she showed a clip
from tonight's episode of The Valley where she calls out
Britney Cartwright for being a terrible friend and constantly defending
Janet while not doing the same for Kristin and for
(02:17):
Zach and Kristen's like, what is up with that? Finally,
I love that. Thank you for saying the thing that
I needed you to say for real. So this season
is really good. It's very dark, it's kind of toxic.
So we have a lot of fun in the trash
and so if you want to get into it, definitely
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need to help us get there, please and thanks, thank
you in advance. Now, also, we do want to let
(03:03):
you know we're going to have an after show for
this episode. Now, an after show is for the VIP
Patreon raccoons only, and we only have after shows when
we have some additional things to talk about. And tonight,
let me tell you say, we've got some things to
talk about concerning Welcome to Plaid, Phil, I got drama,
what's going on with that? Also, apparently there was somebody
(03:26):
who asked Mary Brown a question live on Instagram about
Cody and his punk ast and she answered, but did
she actually say anything. Well, we're going to get into
it in the after show. And also there was a
comment left by somebody, not for our video, but somebody
left to comment in Mormonland about what happens when two
(03:46):
young men go on their first mission. I'm going to
give you a little hint for those who are watching.
It's a sexical thing that tends to happen. So we're
going to read the comment. Yeah, and we're going to
get into all of that. And if you want to
be a part of the after show again, make sure
you join us on Patriarch.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Now, before we get into our recap, Beatrice, I must
ask you, what is your primary takeaway? I already know listen,
I already know what you're gonna say. But what is
your takeaway from this episode?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Cody and Brett are giving me hardcore broke back mountain gay, homosexical.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Seeming lover yeah, sexual relation wows okay, like.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Hardcore, like they probably had like a brow maan.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, they went on a mission together, and so I
got the same vibe as you. I was getting a
lot of homo erotessis giving gay. I was remembering I
think season one when Cody and the fam go back
to his hometown and all of his high school friends
are like I swear to god, I thought he was
flamboyantly gay gay and I also thought he was and
(04:51):
I still think he's not flamboyantly gay, but I think
he's gay.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think he's a little gay gay.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And so we got this guy coming into town and
rolling up with his wife and I'm just like, Monicle,
something sexual is going on here. Oh yeah, same, same takeaway.
I have the same takeaway.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm glad we're on the same page with that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yes, So, without further ado, let's get into the recap.
We are on season six, episode thirty.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Entitled Boys Night Out.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's gonna be a hot boys night Out. We're gonna
have a lot of fun wrestling and stuff with all
bodies and everything. I can't wait, love it. Take it away, Patrice.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, we start off the episode with kind of like
a stupid segment at the beginning where we're going to
tour different venues for their dumb recommitment and like Christine's
freaking out because it's kind of expensive.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Ten thousand, ten thousand?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Does that include kay no, does not doesn't to get
married or not to get married, but to have a
recommitment ceremony at a facility that also hosts gay marriages, yes, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Interestingly, they did say that. Did you notice that Cody
was talking about how this was his party? Yep, And
because it was a party for him, he was willing
to spend all the money. But if it was a
party for anybody else then he wouldn't be willing to
open up his wallet.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, because he said something like it's my image at
stake or something like this is for me, And I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,
got it. We're already starting with that in season six.
It kind of like, uh, what's the term for when
you're disillusioned? I guess that's the term.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, Like it kind of like that would be it
kind of just like, man.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I thought Cody was like a better guy in the
earlier season. So now I'm like, we're washing him back,
and I'm like, oh, he's always been a piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well he's a he's a highly insecure person, because just
in this episode alone, we've got him referring to himself
as an alpha male, Yeah, as like the consummate leader
of a family, when he's nothing of the sore, Like
he's just constantly puffing himself up to make him self
look like a manly provider. Where the reality is is
(07:06):
that that's not what he is, and maybe that's why
he's insecure. Plus he's gay. Plus plus he's gay, and
he's in a cult, and you can't just come out
and say I'm get gay. So I'm instead going to
marry for women and have a mess of kids so
that nobody would even suspect that I'm gay, not knowing
that at some point in the future, too, robust raccoons
(07:27):
are going to roll onto the scene and we're gonna
see in two point two seconds that man is gay.
That's a game. I'm looking at, a game that is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
A big old game.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Sorry, I'm going crazy. And you know I love my
gay men, I love gay women, I love the gay
I love people.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I love people.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And if Cody is gay, I think we should hashtag
free Cody Brown hotly. I want him to live his
whole gay experience. What I don't want him to do
is implode in on himself and become a hateful person
who takes it out on women and children, which unfortunately
is the way that what that's what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But like, just imagine a world where like Robin ended
up his favorite wife just because she pegs him. Oh yeah,
because that's how he gets his little That's how he
gets his Nixon, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like he can truly be himself with Robin Robin playing
the role of a top. Can you imagine Cody Brown
like on a Pride float in a speedo just I
can ill baby oiled up. Yeah, everything, just gyrating. I
can see that so easily.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I want that for him so much. I want that
for us.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I want that for us too, very much. And then
we get onto the wrestling mats and we have Cody's bff,
Brett and his wife Ava comeing to visit. And I
guess Brett and Cody were BFFs back in college. They
went on a Mormon mission together and they formed what
Cody called a cosmic romance or a cosmic brotherhood or
(08:54):
something bounce. And it's been a few years since they've
seen each other, but he's coming to visit and comeing
to see how they're doing in Vegas. And he's also
going to help them install wrestling mats per Hunter at
Janelle's house with also Janelle's personal trainer who's just there
for the check.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, why is Sean here? We don't need to Bo's bread.
We've never met Brett. It's season six. I think the
reality is that Cody doesn't actually have male friends who
would want to be friends with them. So like there's
this empty space inside of him that only a man
can fill. And so like anytime any man is willing
to roll up into Vegas and pretend to be his
(09:36):
bro like his dad's like, Oh, I'm going to get
wrestling mats. Yeah, this is going to be so good.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
We're going to produce.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Content and then you and me we can put our
short song. Yeah, we cane wrestle together. It's going to
be great.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And so they go to Janelle's house with the wrestling mats,
and Janelle's like, I need to be able to use
my garage, though I don't want these fucking fuck shit
matts crowd up mugara.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've got like boxes, have a million kids, Like a
normal garage would have things in it and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yep. So she's pissed, and Christine kind of offers up
her garage because it's clean. She cleaned it out specifically
for Cody. She wanted it Cody to have space in
the garage that he hasn't utilized yet, and so she
offers up her garage to have the mats installed there.
But in order to do that, she has to negotiate
(10:29):
with Cody privately without their mics.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right. Well, she asks him if they can have a
private discussion, and Cody's like, oh, you're going to try
and blackmail me. Yeah, So in order for me to
put these mats into your garage, I'm going to have
to give you something. And then we see them go
off to the side somewhere and I'm trying to remember
what Christine negotiates for more time?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, this is all according to Cody. Cody says that
she negotiated for him spending more time at her house,
more grocery money, and for him to be a better husband.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Okay, but can we just talk about the grocery money part,
because I was like, what do you mean more grocery money?
We are on season six, you are all living in McMansions.
My suspicion is that each wife gets the same amount
for groceries. And Christine has what five or six kids?
I can six, it's five or six kids, So she's
(11:23):
got six kids. Is she getting the same amount for
groceries as Mary is getting for groceries. Like she's in
this moment negotiating so that she can feed her children. Yeah,
which Cody is calling blackmail, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And He's like I had to make a deal with
her to install these mats into the garage. And I'm like, dude,
just give her some more money.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
She's literally just asking for you to be a good
husband and kind of be around from time to time.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah. And like if that's the case, if every wife
is getting the same grocery money, and like Mary is
getting more, for example, even though she only has one
child to feed, that's crazy. But also like, is it
Robin starting to is she starting to siphon some of
the money over because she's got her fake nail, She's
got all these little jewelry, this jewelry on, she's got
(12:12):
her little blazers. I'm like, you're looking awfully nice.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
She's starting to bling bling out. In season six, they're
starting to actually work with real money. They're manifesting, they're
becoming the architects of their lives. Yeah, but for somebody
like Mary, she's getting the equal amount of resources so
she can stockpile her money, she can pay for Leon's tuition,
she can pay and should pay for Leon's car, as
(12:36):
opposed to going to the rest of the family like
she did in the last episode asking for them to
pay for Leon's pricey private tuition, like, no, you're getting
the same amount of money, then save it then.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Right, exactly, It's not really fair for everybody else to
have to fork up more of their money when Janelle
and Christine are seemingly scraping by, well, everyone else is
just like living their life and doing their thing. It's
kind of crazy that she had to even negotiate that
with Cody to begin with. But nevertheless, they come to
some kind of agreement and she installs the mats at
her house at Christine's house yep. And then when they
(13:09):
have the mats installed, this is where Cody and Brett
changed into their little shorts.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes they did, and they they wrestled there on those
mats and get all sweaty, yes, get all close to
each other as in Face sixty in phase, and everybody's
just standing around laughing and uncomfortably watching Cody's aroused being
a peacock with this guy Prett. It was just cringeastic.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It was so cringe. And this is where we hear
more of their backstory. So when they went and served
their Mormon mission together, after they engaged in a lot
of kase sex.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Allegedly in our opinion only, this is the es I'm getting, Okay,
after their Mormon mission, this is where they started to
split off into two paths.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
This is how Brett describes it. Because I guess Brett
was like having a crisis of faith because he's gay.
He decided to leave the Mormon church or like kind
of distance himself from the Mormon Church, whereas Cody went
the complete opposite direction and became more fundamentalist, joined his
polygamist church because he wanted to please his daddy, and
(14:22):
their friendship kind of I guess fractured.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, they ultimately end up having an antagonistic argument about
Joseph Smith, and apparently it was bad, and so they
broke off at that point and then didn't speak for
five years. So presumably at some point Brett rotates back
into his life. I'm not sure how I can't quit
you or why, but like, yeah, so they've been peripheral
(14:50):
in each other's lives since then. But yeah, so it
doesn't seem like Brett is religious at all. In fact,
he just believes in God. And that's the only thing
that he has in common in terms faith with Cody's
that they both believe in a God.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And that's it, Yeah, exactly. And so now that they're
back in each other's lives, like, Cody invited Brett to his.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Wedding, it feels so good.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He invited him to his wedding with Robin, and Brett
showed up and then he like left early. And this
is where Cody recounts it, and he's like, he starts crying.
It's crazy. He starts crying, weird dude, And he's like,
that was the only time that I felt so lonely.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
When Brett left the reception for that. He showed up
for the wedding, stayed for the reception, but he had
to leave kind of in the middle of it. And
this is where Cody's like, like, I really felt that watching
him walk out the door was the first time I
had felt lonely.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm like, you're marrying your favorite wife, right.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
There's one hundred people here at this reception, but this
one guy is leaving and now you're feeling lonely. And
that was a few years ago, maybe two or three
years ago, four years ago. You're recounting it and you're crying.
Why you're talking.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
About homosexual love is real?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's real, absolutely, well, you know that love is absolutely
one love, one love.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like I'm just watching that, I'm like, I know a
gay man when I see.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Sure, that's a man in love, totally heart activated, et phone,
motherfucking home.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I mean, look, I mean, to be real, yeah, Brett's
kind of handsome.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Now well, yeah, I mean I guess, yeah, well for
for a for a you know, a generic, nondescript Caucasian person,
he's great. I mean, he's certainly better looking comparatively than
say Cody, Oh definitely. Yeah, so I could see how
Cody would have a crush on him, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah. But anyway, Brett starts talking about polygamy and how
he doesn't envy Cody at all, and actually he's worried
about him. He's worried about how he has to manage
all of these women, yeah, and all these marriages. And
it kind of felt to me like Brett was trying
to pick up on the fact that, like the wives
were not happy. Yes, but it kind of seemed like
(16:58):
the way it was edited that he was like repping
for Cody more.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, like he's talking about having seen Cody running around
and being super busy and like constantly taking care of
all these different kids and wives and homes, and that
there was like underlying tension in the family. Like so
I felt like he was trying to call that out. Yeah,
he didn't really know what was going on, maybe, but
he was trying to alert us. And then later in
(17:24):
this episode we get his wife, Ava, who also has
some opinions on the matter. So apparently though, when Brett
and Ava go to visit in this episode, they both
feel like something is amiss, something is wrong in the
family with the wives and Cody.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Which is crazy because they're trying to portray like they're fine,
I mean not really, like Christine says that she's sad
and everything, like it's obvious, but they are trying to
like keep it together. But like you have these friends
coming into town and they're.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like, damnious, what's going on over here?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
What the fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And so then everybody kind of breaks off because after
Cody and Brett finish wrestling, they go and take a
shower today together.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Well, Cody does say, let's go get a shower. I mean,
and I had to wonder to myself together I know,
separately whose house cameras.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was thinking, I'm like, can the cameras follow that?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Can I see great?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'd like to see it. I want to see. Anyway,
they go shower together, and then the guys go and
do their thing, and then the girls do their own thing,
and so all of the whis end up taking a
trip to some zoo or something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, this is where we learn that Robin unequivocally does
not like animals evil and I don't get it, and
I don't understand, like I do. I do understand somebody
saying like, you know what, I animals are great. Of course,
the animals are beautiful. I just don't want to live
with animals. They don't have like a life that can
support that nonsense for me. Same as somebody saying like,
(18:49):
I'm you know, children or children babies are great, but
I don't want any babies. And that's completely valid. But
like Robin just coming out of the gate and saying like, yeah,
I don't like animals. They poop and they pee and
I'm not into it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And then she's like at the zoo and she's like
giving stank face to every animal, like she's like not
even petting them. She thinks they're all disgusting. I'm just like, wow,
you're kind of bitz.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I mean, like, didn't your own children poop and pee?
Like what did you? Oh, you got a nanny. That's right, right,
you didn't have to deal with exactly, you just got
yourself a nanny exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, So Robin's like freaking out by all the animals
touching her because how dare animals touch It's ridiculous. Meanwhile,
you have Mary just having a snake necklace, just walking around.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Truly like holding Truly and truly's petting the snake holding Christine.
Both Mary and Christine are petting the snake. And then
Janelle goes up to a camel and shares a carrot
right out of her mouth. And yeah, all of the
kids are doing it. Everybody's having a great time, except
for Robin, who's hanging back and just judging everybody because
she doesn't like animals. I'm sorry, something is wrong with
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you if like you don't like the entire animal kingdom.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I can understand if you said, you know, I don't
like cats, Like, sure, cats don't get off, but you
don't like animals.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Not a single animal animal. I know. I'm like, there's
got to be an animal.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You think it's cute.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Demon Well, and you've seen the footage of her with
the dog.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Right kicking Mary's dog.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yes, yes, she's evil.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
So did not hesitate to kick a dog? No, didn't
even think about it. Probably didn't even realize she.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Kicked a dog. No, not at all. And then we
have Ava Brett's wife having a little commentary to herself
to the camera saying that you know, yeah, it's interesting
observing the wives and observing their polygamous family because they're
everything that they portray themselves to be, although you do
feel some tension sometimes every now and then, but like, yeah,
(20:47):
they seem to love each other. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I was wondering what tension she was referring to. But
when we get to the picnic portion of the women's
day out and we kind of get to Mary and
we're asking Mary to like, how are you doing? How
are you feeling? Like Mary is not happy in her
life right now, not happy at all. And we also
have Janelle saying something like, yeah, like we used to
(21:10):
meet for dinner two to three times a week, and
we really haven't done that since Robin came. Yep, I
did say that, right, we really haven't done that in
a while. Maybe we should get back to that. And
then Robin says something like, well, yeah, you know, Janelle
and Christine and I we hang out together, but like Mary,
we don't really see you a lot. And that's probably
(21:31):
because we have kids. Yeah, you don't because you're infertile
and you're not really a woman, and that's why Cody
doesn't love you. Because of course Robin brings up Mary's
infertility or issues conceiving or whatever. Anytime Robin can bring
that up, she does. Oh and she does it right
here at the picnic.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's like constant. It's so hurtful. And of course, like Mary,
she doesn't really get emotional at the picnic per se.
She clams up, though she does. She clams up because
she can't talk about vulnerability at all. And it was
just like really weird. Like I think Robin was the
one to point it out too, that Mary tends to
withdraw from the family, like when she's like not feeling
(22:12):
well or like she's going through a tough time, and
I think she was like trying to pry that out
of Mary, but Mary again walls up, can't do it.
And then Christine says something like, well, maybe we should
have like more spontaneous times to hang out, Like maybe
we should just not really plan it, like let's just
make a conscious effort to hang out with each other,
even if it's spontaneous, And Robin and Mary laugh at her,
(22:35):
and I'm like Christine's genuinely just trying to co sign
what Janelle's saying and say like we should hang out together,
we should have more time together.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And Mary even says something like, yeah, I kind of
just prefer to hang out in my house and work
on my projects and do the things that interest me.
Like Mary is not interested in having friendships with these women,
and Robin acting like she's somehow closer to Christine in
Janelle versus. Mary is a lie, so she doesn't hang
out with any of these women. Now, is this the
(23:06):
part where we get the women on the couch And
Christine says something like, yeah, with Cody, you can always
tell which wife he's been hanging around when he comes
to your house, because he talks differently, he acts differently.
What did you make of that statement from Christine.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That was crazy? I mean the fact that she had
the balls to say that, like on the couch on DV,
Like you could tell that Cody and Robin off guard
because they both looked at each other like very like suspicious,
like oh my god, they caught us, like they just
thought it was so weird that she pointed it out.
But Janelle co signed it too, so did Mary, Like
I can tell he you've been talking to by some
(23:45):
of the things that you say, and Mary says the
same thing, and.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm like, oh, oh yes, and that's the tension. Yeah,
And that's where we're having a disconnect with these women
because he is at this point in twenty fourteen, I
think we are spending way more time with Robin, and
he's becoming indoctrinated to her way of thinking, being and existing.
And so by the time he deigns to spend any
(24:10):
time with the other wives, he's mimicking her. He's parroting
the same talking points. He's changing as a person. And
we have always said, like, yeah, Cody might be the
head of the family, but Robin is the neck and
the neck turns the head exact and so he's changing
and the women are noticing it, and that is causing
this underlying rift between everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh definitely, I mean you can already feel it. And like,
I think the wives are trying to get together more
just because they're all lonely. Like I think that's the reason.
I think they also have Cody in their ear telling them,
like they have to be better sister wise, and they
have to be more together as a family because in Sedona,
you guys hate each other, and like, if I die,
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the family's not going to be around. Like I think
that they're trying really hard to be a family, to
try and be friends with everybody, but they can't be
because Robin doesn't like any of them. I don't think Mary.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I don't think Mary does. I don't think Janelle really
does either, although Janelle just seems more laid back and
able to assimilate into different things, like she's not going
to be any problem. But I do think it's a
problem for Robin interacting with these other women, And I
do think it's a problem for Mary because Mary doesn't
trust these other women, and you know, like even though
her walls are going up in this picnic scene. Like
(25:26):
in her defense, I can see why because she's on
camera and she knows this conversation is performative. She knows
as soon as the camera's shut down, like they're going
to go back to doing the exact same thing that
they've been doing, that nobody really cares about her. That
Cody hasn't been sharing her home in her space for
probably a year or more at this point, yep, So
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she knows this is all fake, and so she's not
going to be vulnerable in front of these women because
they don't truly care. Now. What I thought was interesting, though,
is that while these conversations are going on, like Ava
is there, it actually begins with Ava bringing up polygamy
and her expectations of this family because she's like, I
honestly thought that Cody was going to be a PERV,
(26:08):
Like when Brett told me that y'all were polygamous, I
was sincerely grossed out, Like, you know, how could anybody
live like this? And this guy must be a PERV,
which is so offensive. So like just comes out and
says that, And I was looking at the faces of
the wives like they don't know who she is, uh uh,
Like they're just filming something with this rando woman that
(26:31):
Brett brought with him, yep. And like she's calling them
out for like thinking they had a degenerate lifestyle and
they did not like that at all, and I don't
blame them.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
No, of course not. And then she also starts grilling
them about like Cody and him not showing PDA and
affection to all of the wives, and she's like, so
I've noticed something. When he's around all four of you,
he doesn't show any kind of affection. Why is that?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And I'm like, girl, like, wow, you don't even know
these people.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's kind of crazy. I'm like TLC producers, put you please,
this is nuts. But like the women just give their
same old spiel of like, well, Blake, you know, we
don't want to just thrown in our face, like Mary
says that, like we know that he's fucking everybody else,
I mean mainly Robin, but like we just don't want
to be shown that because it'll make us feel bad
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or whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think it was Christine who says though, that it
was Cody's idea that they did not show public displays
of refection, whereas we were told that he was affectionate
with Mary, and then it was Janelle's mom, Cheryl, who
came along and said, like, this is upsetting to Janelle's
so don't do this. So I'm just like, it's very
interesting to see where the lore comes from.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh yeah, it's like who's telling the truth? Nobody, nobody.
We don't know what's true, what's real because they keep
changing the fucking script every few years. It's so annoying. Yep.
And then Ava says I think to the camera, like
I don't understand why they can't show PDA, like they
know he's sleeping with all of them, Like it does
it makes sense to me?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And I'm like yeah, but I mean, at the same time,
you're in a monogamous relationship and you're sitting out here
commenting on somebody in an alternative lifestyle. You have no
lived experience in this lifestyle, and it's just like kind
of condescending for you to have an opinion at all.
They invited you into their space, they're sharing this time
with you, and the least you could be is just
nice about it, yeah, as opposed to like looking for
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all the things that could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Right and analyzing their family.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And it's like her I didn't really like bread either. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, maybe we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Okay, maybe we will.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah. And then after we have this conversation at the picnic,
then we have the conversation on the couch with all
the wives, and this is where Mary talks about becoming
an empty nester because Leon's going to college and I'm snory.
You know. Mary gets really emotional here, and this is
where she starts crying because she doesn't know like what
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her role is going to be in life, what her
role is going to be in the family because she's
the only one with one child. And then she talks
about Howdy doesn't understand her experience because he's not actually
gonna be an empty nester. It's just Mary, and I
think like all the subtext here is that she's lonely,
af and nobody seems to care. Like she's literally crying
(29:14):
on the couch and all of the wives have stank faces,
like Janelle's not looking at her. Christine's kind of engaging,
but like also isn't sympathetic or saying anything.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Not reaching out and just saying, oh, I totally understand.
I mean, I don't know how you feel. Necessarily, but
I totally understand that you're feeling emotional. I'm here for
Like nobody reaches out to support Mary in that moment.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Not at all, And like Mary even starts thanking Christine
and Janelle for being there for her while they were
all raising all of the kids, not just Leon, but
like she thanks Janelle and Christine for even all of
the tough years and everything, like I'm glad that you
guys were there and I really appreciate it. And then
she cries to Robin and is like, I'm really sorry
that you weren't there, and like nobody's saying anything, nobody's
(29:59):
consoling her, awkward, and like Mary is being so vulnerable
trying to be and nobody's saying anything. It's like kind
of wild to me. I felt bad for Mary in
this moment, but at the same time, it's like.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I don't know, yeah, but I mean we've just been
having this conversation for quite some time, like with Mary
trying to decide whether she was going to use Robin
as a surrogate or do IVF for whatever, like that
was for three seasons, and she's been trying to wrestle
with what her position and her place is in this family,
and like that's only ever as deep as we go. Yeah,
(30:34):
we never really talk about the other things and the
family dynamics which might be lending themselves to her feeling
lonely because even on the couch, none of these wives
reach out to her, none of these wives try to
comfort her, so truly she is alone, and that's sad.
But like something a little different, a little bit more information,
like why aren't you talking to your sister wives, Like
(30:56):
why doesn't Cody come over? Like tell us that's actually
happening in your home, because if you're so abjectly lonely,
it's because something else is going on that you're not
sharing Exact's what's frustrating to me.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's like you probably wouldn't have had such an issue
with being an empty nester if you had a healthy
relationship with just one adult in the family. Like nobody
likes you, not even your husband, not even the older kids.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Really well, and I'm wondering how involved Leon has been
with Mary in terms of a relationship, but like it
might have only ever just been Leon that was Mary's friend, yeah,
or that was there to talk with Mary about Mary's issues,
And I don't know that Leon was parentified like Logan
was and Aspen was, but maybe Leon was. And so
(31:39):
now Mary's gonna lose the one person that she's had
at her side the entire time, Like that would be devastating. Yeah,
but Mary's not sharing at that level, so it's hard
for me to even connect with what's happening. And like,
why nobody seems to give a crap about Mary. I
know it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But doesn't she meet Jen in Las Vegas?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Guess too, So.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
She'll probably meet Jen soon and it'll be fine. Yeah,
and hopefully we can get off of this fucking storyline
because it's like it is a lot. I agree with
you here. And then we jump on over to Guys Night.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Out, Oh Magoid, after everybody had their gate orgy in
the shower that we only had to imagine and it
was imagining it.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I was. I was imagining it too. Yes, Brett, Cody,
and Sean go up to the Stratosphere in Las Vegas. Yeah,
and they go up to the tippy tippy top and
they go bungee jumping, which looked very fun. I've been
on the.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Stratosphere, Okay, I think I've I don't know if I've
been up on the stratosphere.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's fun. I went on the ride where I think
it's I can't remember what it's called, but it's the
one where you shoot up at the very top of
the needle. Very fun. Sounds fun, but the bungee jumping
looked great. I would totally do.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I would never you could Delia doing something like that.
I do not like hidespet I was.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
What I was telling your daughter today. I'm like, do
that for my fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What about like skydiving? Would you do something like that?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I don't know if I could do skydiving because that's
like you could die. I mean I could die. Yeah,
that's scary. But I would totally do a bunch of
jumping ziplining from a top of a cliff like that'd
be so great.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Wow, yeah, that kind of stuff. So the guys seem excited.
I think Cody's trying to pretend he's really excited.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I think the producers have coordinated this event totally. I
don't know that Cody was like one hundred percent on board,
but like Brett's totally into it. He goes first and
he just launches himself off the side of the building,
and Cody's like, damn yeah. And then Sean goes next,
and Shawn's maybe a little bit nervous, but he launches
himself off the building and Cody's just in the background nervous. Yeah,
he's talking. He doesn't want to not do it because
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then he won't be a real man, which is kind
of like what the theme of this entire episode is
is like how much of a man is Cody? Not
much of a man, as it turns out, not much
of a man. But he finally gets his turn and
he forces himself to launch himself off of the strants there.
He screams all the way down, and then they go
(34:00):
to dinner and they have a conversation about male leadership
and I'm a snoring.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I kind of hated this conversation because the men were
kind of coming for like the wives and just telling
Cody like, how can you deal with all these women?
Am I right? How can you deal with all these
women in their thoughts and opinions?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
It's like in their lives and like they're existing around you.
Are you okay?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Bro? Like? How can you lead with all this estrogen around?
It's like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Well, and Brett's like, you know, I'm obviously in a
monogamous relationship with my hoe ass wife Ava. Sorry, and
you know, when it comes down to it, like I lead,
it's my choice, it's my decision, and she knows that,
and so I'm in charge. But like, Cody, my guy,
are you really in charge though? Because you seem really
(34:53):
busy just running from house to house to house with
your hair flipping in the wind, and it seems like
your women are actually telling you how it's going to be.
So looks like you're a little bit of a cook.
That's just what I'm getting. That's what I'm feeling.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
What they're telling you, a cook man, you're a beta
ass simp, Like that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yes, that's what it was giving.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I was kind of watching this and I'm like, damn,
I kind of feel bad for Cody just a little
bit of this conversation, Like it's kind of great to
have these men, like these real men telling him you
know what I mean, you know what I mean, Like
these these macho men compared to Cody telling him you're
a loser.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
These women are running you around.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, you're a beta and Cody's like, well, I'm an
alpha mil.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, Like he just says those words like I've never
met a manly man. Who ever said I'm a manly man? Duh?
Like look at me, I'm all man honey, Like right, No,
you just know when you're in the presence of a
man who's a man exactly, and if you are an
insecure man who's trying to compete in the world of men,
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you say something like I'm an alpha male.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I mean, duh.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Look, I'm the leader. It's me absolutely. I lead this family.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I lead it very subtlely, though, Yeah, that's what he says,
very subtle leadership, Like wow, you mean passive leadership.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Non leadership is my type of leadership.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I guess I kind of wonder if, like all of
these conversations that Cody has had on camera so far,
and maybe off camera he probably has other guys telling him, like,
you're kind of a beta, yeah, Like, I wonder if
this started maybe his dad, well maybe.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I think his dad is still alive at this point,
maybe this.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Started his whole like manisphere pipeline like path where he
started going down like the alpha male road like the
Andrew Tates.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, because when did that emerge in the zeitgeist because
this is like twenty fourteen, twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Fifteen something like that. I'm thinking, like.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Andrew Tait and QAnon and all of that weird stuff
started like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
But there was, but it was it was in the ether.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
There had to have been like other alpha males back
then that we just didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I wasn't paying it. I still don't pay attention.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I don't pay attention to it at all. But I
just wonder if this kind of started it, because Cody
does seem insecure here and like he's trying to prove
the fact that he is the leader of his family,
and he goes on in his talking head about how
he's the leader of his family and like, yeah, I
listened to their concerns and everything, but ultimately I'm the man,
and they all know that I'm the man, and they
(37:15):
all know that I'm the one that makes the decisions.
And it's like, okay, I don't think so. And then
we go on the couch and we talk about the
situation where Janelle refused to move to Utah when they
were living in Wyoming, right, and Janelle's the one that
brings it up, I think, and she's like, yeah, Cody
was trying to tell me that I needed to move
to Utah and I'm I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Well, actually, Cody is the one who brings up this
story to the guys at dinner as if to demonstrate
how much of a leader he was. Oh right, Like,
the story actually illustrates that he's not a leader, because
in the story, he's telling Janelle when they're living in Wyoming, look,
I've got this job opportunity in Utah. We've got to go.
Let's go. And Janelle's like, absolutely not uncomfortable here. If
(37:57):
you want to go, get on go. And so Cody
does leave, and then Janelle at some point starts to
miss him, and of course she's got children with him,
and so she decides on her own because she's a Taurus, Honey,
you can't move a Torus until she's ready to go. Yep,
she decides on her own that she's going to move
to where Cody is in Utah. But like the way
Cody's describing it is like, yeah, I won that one,
(38:17):
I'm like, no, Actually, Janelle was the leader in that,
because Janelle said no, Janelle did exactly what she wanted
to do, and when Janelle was ready, she's like, Okay,
I missed the d You'm go to move to Utah
and then she does Yeah, so Janelle led, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Good job Cody, Yeah, real leader alpha male. So ridiculous.
I said that whole thing was so dumb. And then
I think we talk more about like Cody and Brett's relationship,
and I just like, don't care at all. And then
we end the episode with Mary and her random TLC
producer friend Andrea going too Joey Anne Fabrics, Yeah, to
(38:52):
pick out fabric for Leon's blanket for college. R Mary's
gonna make them a blanket of purple gold and whatever.
And this is where Mary again talks about how sad
she is of being an empty nester.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I did find it interesting, though, that Mary does seem
to have a lot of great women friends around her.
I think that's a testament to her character overall. And
of course we have never met Andrea, and we know
that while Mary's in Vegas, she's going to start making
more friends and then we're going to have even more
(39:27):
friends as the seasons go on. But like, Mary can't
be all that bad if She's got friends that are
showing up for her when Cody won't, when Robin's not there,
when the other wives don't care. You've got this person
Andrea who's going to take her to the fabric store
maybe to work on this blanket, and they have the
conversation about empty nesters, and she has friends there for her.
(39:47):
I just think that that says a lot about her. Yeah,
it could maybe mean girls have friends though too, that's true,
But I mean, like, I don't think she's a mean
girl with these women. I think these women genuinely really
like Mary. Yeah, that means Mary, he's likable. I think
that furthers our argument that Mary just doesn't show us
who she really is on this show. Like and she's
(40:08):
been talking in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty
five about like, you know, worthying up and you're gonna
see me and when I can talk, I'm going to talk.
Because I guess she's felt the need over all of
these seasons to continue to hide, continue to lie, continue
to project this beautiful family that never was. So I
just think that underneath that all, if we had ever
(40:29):
seen the real Mary, she would have been a chill,
awesome girl and we would have liked.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Her definitely, and maybe if she was the real Mary
with like Christine and Chanelle, they probably would have had
like a better relationship. And like maybe if they could
have actually talked about their issues and stuff and like
went to therapy together and actually dug deep into the
root of their issues, maybe they could have all been friends.
But I digress. Yeah, and then we have the preview
(40:53):
where we have Aspen and Leon discussing their parents dancing
at their graduations.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, the graduation party and what they want and what
they expect, and everybody's super excited about it because they
love a party, those Browns.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I mean, hey. And then we have Robin saying she
wants to hire a fortune teller.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Right, well, she does bring in like a tarot card reader,
which I'm just like, okay, hold up.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
At Leon's graduation.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
At Leon's graduation party. But like there's these rumors again
in the ethers about Robin being kind of witchy woo
woo and having her crystals and everything in her house
and what if she's a witch and we're all talking
about manifesting all of a sudden. I don't think she's
a witch, Don't get me wrong. I think she's probably
a bit new age metaphysical. But it's just curious to
(41:39):
me that a bunch of Mormon fundamentalists would have a
tarot card reader. I know, like Olivia, maybe that was
her first step too of leaving the religion. She got
herself a tarot card reading. Maybe that's just bizarre.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Taro's the gateway drug, maybe, so it's kind of ridiculous.
But the tarot reader says that Cody's gonna have a
fifth wife, and Cody seems awkward about that. And then
we have Mary at Leon's graduation and she's like freaking
the fuck out because she can't see Leon walk down
the state right, and she's getting all.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Dramatic, having a tantrum.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
My God, And then we have the graduation party for it,
I think Leon ann aspin.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yes, and all the adults are dancing and it's super cringe. Yeah,
making it about themselves, of course, because anytime Cody can
dance for the public, he's going to do it, and he's.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Going to do it so bad.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yes, he is. Well again, you know, this was like
kind of a nothing burger episode. Yeah, but if you've
got your monocles out and if you're sniffing the air
like we do as raccoons, we can smell some homosexicality. Yeah,
we can see the tension and things are becoming clear. Yeah,
what's going on in the cul de Sac is not good.
(42:46):
I just didn't know because I didn't watch these seasons either.
I didn't know that it was from the very beginning.
I thought like the family started to fall apart, like
maybe midway through the cul de Sac journey, But it
was like from the first months that it all began.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
From the ever since Robin came into the picture, like
they were struggling.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, but they thought that the cul de Sac was
the answer to bringing it all back together. But like
it feels like Robin just ramped up her antics and
started demanding more of his time and money. And again
you have Janell, who doesn't give a crap as long
as she's fine and comfortable. You've got Mary who's just
stuck in her silence in her lonely haunted home. And
(43:24):
then you get Christine, who at this point is just
stewing in her jealousy and having to negotiate for time
with Cody by giving her garage up for wrestling mats.
It's like actually pretty sad. It is really crazy. I
like feel bad for Christine in this moment because she's
like angry and justifiably so, like she's upset and sad,
(43:46):
but like, who does she have to talk to nobody?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Nobody?
Speaker 1 (43:48):
She just can drop like little bombs on the couch
to let everybody else know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Oh by the way, if you're watching on YouTube, how
many of you have pre ordered Christine books? Oh yeah,
drop a comment and or are you looking forward to
her book? Do we think that there's going to be
something of interest there? Because you know, there was a
rumor that Cody got attorneys involved demanding that Christine acts
(44:16):
one of the chapters in her book because I guess
it dealt with one hundred thousand dollars that went missing
out of the family fund. This is the rumor. And
I don't know, obviously, and I would hope that Christine
wouldn't remove that.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
From the book.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
So maybe it will be in the book, But there's
a rumor he asked her to remove that part of
the book because she was outing him for stealing money allegedly.
I don't know, so, I mean, like I kind of
want to order it.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
You should.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Well, it's like twenty six bucks and it's just guaranteed
to be lame. It's guaranteed to not give me what
I want. But I feel like it is our professional duty.
We should read it and review it because yeah, I'm
sure everybody wants us to. Well, maybe we can talk
about it in like the after show. I do like
chapter by chapter and like get into it. But I'm
(45:04):
just wondering if you guys are interested, are you looking
forward to it or you're like, I'm not giving these
people any more money? How do you feel? Let us
know in the comments or on Instagram. You can DM
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Speaker 1 (45:35):
We are going to move now to our after show.
We're going to be talking about a lot of gossipy items,
but we will be back next week to continue our
Sister wife's conversation and our recaps, and so until then,
please do not forget that we have nothing but love
for you and peace. A night, guys,
Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
of your hosts, Delia, and I'm here with my real
tight homegirl and my daughter in law, the beauteous Bedre.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
That's me.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
We are here to talk sister wives, hoodie. We are
currently in season six going through the archives and the
Mormon records. We're in the temple looking at all the
names on all the lists to see what's happening, and
we're having a good time doing so because, as you know,
everyone has moved into the cul de sac. The children
(00:41):
have reintegrated and are strengthening their family bonds. However, the
wives are having a bit of a problem in that
regard because they don't seem to like each other very much.
I don't know what's happening. I do have some suspicions. Yeah.
For example, I think Cody is already spending all of
his time at Robin, and now all the other wives
(01:02):
can see it firsthand with their own eyeballs, and so
there are some problems with the Browns. It's juicy. Now,
before we get into this episode, we do have to
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This is a politically incorrect comedy comedy podcast. We are
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(01:27):
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Speaker 1 (01:54):
My god, it is crazy. It's so much fun. By
the way, did you see that? Just today? Kristin Dodie
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Speaker 2 (04:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Now, before we get into our recap, Beatrice, I must
ask you, what is your primary takeaway? I already know listen,
I already know what you're gonna say. But what is
your takeaway from this episode?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Cody and Brett are giving me hardcore broke back mountain gay, homosexical.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Seeming lover yeah, sexual relation wows okay, like.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Hardcore, like they probably had like a brow maan.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, they went on a mission together, and so I
got the same vibe as you. I was getting a
lot of homo erotessis giving gay. I was remembering I
think season one when Cody and the fam go back
to his hometown and all of his high school friends
are like I swear to god, I thought he was
flamboyantly gay gay and I also thought he was and
(04:51):
I still think he's not flamboyantly gay, but I think
he's gay.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I think he's a little gay gay.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
And so we got this guy coming into town and
rolling up with his wife and I'm just like, Monicle,
something sexual is going on here. Oh yeah, same, same takeaway.
I have the same takeaway.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm glad we're on the same page with that.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yes, So, without further ado, let's get into the recap.
We are on season six, episode thirty.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Entitled Boys Night Out.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It's gonna be a hot boys night Out. We're gonna
have a lot of fun wrestling and stuff with all
bodies and everything. I can't wait, love it. Take it away, Patrice.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, we start off the episode with kind of like
a stupid segment at the beginning where we're going to
tour different venues for their dumb recommitment and like Christine's
freaking out because it's kind of expensive.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Ten thousand, ten thousand?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Does that include kay no, does not doesn't to get
married or not to get married, but to have a
recommitment ceremony at a facility that also hosts gay marriages, yes, Sarah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Interestingly, they did say that. Did you notice that Cody
was talking about how this was his party? Yep, And
because it was a party for him, he was willing
to spend all the money. But if it was a
party for anybody else then he wouldn't be willing to
open up his wallet.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, because he said something like it's my image at
stake or something like this is for me, And I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,
got it. We're already starting with that in season six.
It kind of like, uh, what's the term for when
you're disillusioned? I guess that's the term.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah, Like it kind of like that would be it
kind of just like, man.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
I thought Cody was like a better guy in the
earlier season. So now I'm like, we're washing him back,
and I'm like, oh, he's always been a piece of shit.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well he's a he's a highly insecure person, because just
in this episode alone, we've got him referring to himself
as an alpha male, Yeah, as like the consummate leader
of a family, when he's nothing of the sore, Like
he's just constantly puffing himself up to make him self
look like a manly provider. Where the reality is is
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that that's not what he is, and maybe that's why
he's insecure. Plus he's gay. Plus plus he's gay, and
he's in a cult, and you can't just come out
and say I'm get gay. So I'm instead going to
marry for women and have a mess of kids so
that nobody would even suspect that I'm gay, not knowing
that at some point in the future, too, robust raccoons
(07:27):
are going to roll onto the scene and we're gonna
see in two point two seconds that man is gay.
That's a game. I'm looking at, a game that is.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
A big old game.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Sorry, I'm going crazy. And you know I love my
gay men, I love gay women, I love the gay
I love people.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I love people.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
And if Cody is gay, I think we should hashtag
free Cody Brown hotly. I want him to live his
whole gay experience. What I don't want him to do
is implode in on himself and become a hateful person
who takes it out on women and children, which unfortunately
is the way that what that's what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But like, just imagine a world where like Robin ended
up his favorite wife just because she pegs him. Oh yeah,
because that's how he gets his little That's how he
gets his Nixon, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like he can truly be himself with Robin Robin playing
the role of a top. Can you imagine Cody Brown
like on a Pride float in a speedo just I
can ill baby oiled up. Yeah, everything, just gyrating. I
can see that so easily.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Me too.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
I want that for him so much. I want that
for us.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
I want that for us too, very much. And then
we get onto the wrestling mats and we have Cody's bff,
Brett and his wife Ava comeing to visit. And I
guess Brett and Cody were BFFs back in college. They
went on a Mormon mission together and they formed what
Cody called a cosmic romance or a cosmic brotherhood or
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something bounce. And it's been a few years since they've
seen each other, but he's coming to visit and comeing
to see how they're doing in Vegas. And he's also
going to help them install wrestling mats per Hunter at
Janelle's house with also Janelle's personal trainer who's just there
for the check.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, why is Sean here? We don't need to Bo's bread.
We've never met Brett. It's season six. I think the
reality is that Cody doesn't actually have male friends who
would want to be friends with them. So like there's
this empty space inside of him that only a man
can fill. And so like anytime any man is willing
to roll up into Vegas and pretend to be his
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bro like his dad's like, Oh, I'm going to get
wrestling mats. Yeah, this is going to be so good.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
We're going to produce.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Content and then you and me we can put our
short song. Yeah, we cane wrestle together. It's going to
be great.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
And so they go to Janelle's house with the wrestling mats,
and Janelle's like, I need to be able to use
my garage, though I don't want these fucking fuck shit
matts crowd up mugara.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
I've got like boxes, have a million kids, Like a
normal garage would have things in it and stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yep. So she's pissed, and Christine kind of offers up
her garage because it's clean. She cleaned it out specifically
for Cody. She wanted it Cody to have space in
the garage that he hasn't utilized yet, and so she
offers up her garage to have the mats installed there.
But in order to do that, she has to negotiate
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with Cody privately without their mics.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right. Well, she asks him if they can have a
private discussion, and Cody's like, oh, you're going to try
and blackmail me. Yeah, So in order for me to
put these mats into your garage, I'm going to have
to give you something. And then we see them go
off to the side somewhere and I'm trying to remember
what Christine negotiates for more time?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, this is all according to Cody. Cody says that
she negotiated for him spending more time at her house,
more grocery money, and for him to be a better husband.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Okay, but can we just talk about the grocery money part,
because I was like, what do you mean more grocery money?
We are on season six, you are all living in McMansions.
My suspicion is that each wife gets the same amount
for groceries. And Christine has what five or six kids?
I can six, it's five or six kids, So she's
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got six kids. Is she getting the same amount for
groceries as Mary is getting for groceries. Like she's in
this moment negotiating so that she can feed her children. Yeah,
which Cody is calling blackmail, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
And He's like I had to make a deal with
her to install these mats into the garage. And I'm like, dude,
just give her some more money.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
She's literally just asking for you to be a good
husband and kind of be around from time to time.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah. And like if that's the case, if every wife
is getting the same grocery money, and like Mary is
getting more, for example, even though she only has one
child to feed, that's crazy. But also like, is it
Robin starting to is she starting to siphon some of
the money over because she's got her fake nail, She's
got all these little jewelry, this jewelry on, she's got
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her little blazers. I'm like, you're looking awfully nice.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
She's starting to bling bling out. In season six, they're
starting to actually work with real money. They're manifesting, they're
becoming the architects of their lives. Yeah, but for somebody
like Mary, she's getting the equal amount of resources so
she can stockpile her money, she can pay for Leon's tuition,
she can pay and should pay for Leon's car, as
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opposed to going to the rest of the family like
she did in the last episode asking for them to
pay for Leon's pricey private tuition, like, no, you're getting
the same amount of money, then save it then.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Right, exactly, It's not really fair for everybody else to
have to fork up more of their money when Janelle
and Christine are seemingly scraping by, well, everyone else is
just like living their life and doing their thing. It's
kind of crazy that she had to even negotiate that
with Cody to begin with. But nevertheless, they come to
some kind of agreement and she installs the mats at
her house at Christine's house yep. And then when they
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have the mats installed, this is where Cody and Brett
changed into their little shorts.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes they did, and they they wrestled there on those
mats and get all sweaty, yes, get all close to
each other as in Face sixty in phase, and everybody's
just standing around laughing and uncomfortably watching Cody's aroused being
a peacock with this guy Prett. It was just cringeastic.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
It was so cringe. And this is where we hear
more of their backstory. So when they went and served
their Mormon mission together, after they engaged in a lot
of kase sex.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Allegedly in our opinion only, this is the es I'm getting, Okay,
after their Mormon mission, this is where they started to
split off into two paths.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
This is how Brett describes it. Because I guess Brett
was like having a crisis of faith because he's gay.
He decided to leave the Mormon church or like kind
of distance himself from the Mormon Church, whereas Cody went
the complete opposite direction and became more fundamentalist, joined his
polygamist church because he wanted to please his daddy, and
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their friendship kind of I guess fractured.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Well, they ultimately end up having an antagonistic argument about
Joseph Smith, and apparently it was bad, and so they
broke off at that point and then didn't speak for
five years. So presumably at some point Brett rotates back
into his life. I'm not sure how I can't quit
you or why, but like, yeah, so they've been peripheral
(14:50):
in each other's lives since then. But yeah, so it
doesn't seem like Brett is religious at all. In fact,
he just believes in God. And that's the only thing
that he has in common in terms faith with Cody's
that they both believe in a God.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
And that's it, Yeah, exactly. And so now that they're
back in each other's lives, like, Cody invited Brett to his.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Wedding, it feels so good.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He invited him to his wedding with Robin, and Brett
showed up and then he like left early. And this
is where Cody recounts it, and he's like, he starts crying.
It's crazy. He starts crying, weird dude, And he's like,
that was the only time that I felt so lonely.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
When Brett left the reception for that. He showed up
for the wedding, stayed for the reception, but he had
to leave kind of in the middle of it. And
this is where Cody's like, like, I really felt that watching
him walk out the door was the first time I
had felt lonely.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Which is crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
What's happening right now.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I'm like, you're marrying your favorite wife, right.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
There's one hundred people here at this reception, but this
one guy is leaving and now you're feeling lonely. And
that was a few years ago, maybe two or three
years ago, four years ago. You're recounting it and you're crying.
Why you're talking.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
About homosexual love is real?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
It's real, absolutely, well, you know that love is absolutely
one love, one love.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Like I'm just watching that, I'm like, I know a
gay man when I see.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Sure, that's a man in love, totally heart activated, et phone,
motherfucking home.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I mean, look, I mean, to be real, yeah, Brett's
kind of handsome.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Now well, yeah, I mean I guess, yeah, well for
for a for a you know, a generic, nondescript Caucasian person,
he's great. I mean, he's certainly better looking comparatively than
say Cody, Oh definitely. Yeah, so I could see how
Cody would have a crush on him, Oh for sure.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah. But anyway, Brett starts talking about polygamy and how
he doesn't envy Cody at all, and actually he's worried
about him. He's worried about how he has to manage
all of these women, yeah, and all these marriages. And
it kind of felt to me like Brett was trying
to pick up on the fact that, like the wives
were not happy. Yes, but it kind of seemed like
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the way it was edited that he was like repping
for Cody more.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, like he's talking about having seen Cody running around
and being super busy and like constantly taking care of
all these different kids and wives and homes, and that
there was like underlying tension in the family. Like so
I felt like he was trying to call that out. Yeah,
he didn't really know what was going on, maybe, but
he was trying to alert us. And then later in
(17:24):
this episode we get his wife, Ava, who also has
some opinions on the matter. So apparently though, when Brett
and Ava go to visit in this episode, they both
feel like something is amiss, something is wrong in the
family with the wives and Cody.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Which is crazy because they're trying to portray like they're fine,
I mean not really, like Christine says that she's sad
and everything, like it's obvious, but they are trying to
like keep it together. But like you have these friends
coming into town and they're.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Like, damnious, what's going on over here?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
What the fuck?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
And so then everybody kind of breaks off because after
Cody and Brett finish wrestling, they go and take a
shower today together.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Well, Cody does say, let's go get a shower. I mean,
and I had to wonder to myself together I know,
separately whose house cameras.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
I was thinking, I'm like, can the cameras follow that?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Can I see great?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I'd like to see it. I want to see. Anyway,
they go shower together, and then the guys go and
do their thing, and then the girls do their own thing,
and so all of the whis end up taking a
trip to some zoo or something like that.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Well, this is where we learn that Robin unequivocally does
not like animals evil and I don't get it, and
I don't understand, like I do. I do understand somebody
saying like, you know what, I animals are great. Of course,
the animals are beautiful. I just don't want to live
with animals. They don't have like a life that can
support that nonsense for me. Same as somebody saying like,
(18:49):
I'm you know, children or children babies are great, but
I don't want any babies. And that's completely valid. But
like Robin just coming out of the gate and saying like, yeah,
I don't like animals. They poop and they pee and
I'm not into it.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
And then she's like at the zoo and she's like
giving stank face to every animal, like she's like not
even petting them. She thinks they're all disgusting. I'm just like, wow,
you're kind of bitz.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
I mean, like, didn't your own children poop and pee?
Like what did you? Oh, you got a nanny. That's right, right,
you didn't have to deal with exactly, you just got
yourself a nanny exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yeah, So Robin's like freaking out by all the animals
touching her because how dare animals touch It's ridiculous. Meanwhile,
you have Mary just having a snake necklace, just walking around.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Truly like holding Truly and truly's petting the snake holding Christine.
Both Mary and Christine are petting the snake. And then
Janelle goes up to a camel and shares a carrot
right out of her mouth. And yeah, all of the
kids are doing it. Everybody's having a great time, except
for Robin, who's hanging back and just judging everybody because
she doesn't like animals. I'm sorry, something is wrong with
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you if like you don't like the entire animal kingdom.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I can understand if you said, you know, I don't
like cats, Like, sure, cats don't get off, but you
don't like animals.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Not a single animal animal. I know. I'm like, there's
got to be an animal.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You think it's cute.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Demon Well, and you've seen the footage of her with
the dog.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Right kicking Mary's dog.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yes, yes, she's evil.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
So did not hesitate to kick a dog? No, didn't
even think about it. Probably didn't even realize she.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Kicked a dog. No, not at all. And then we
have Ava Brett's wife having a little commentary to herself
to the camera saying that you know, yeah, it's interesting
observing the wives and observing their polygamous family because they're
everything that they portray themselves to be, although you do
feel some tension sometimes every now and then, but like, yeah,
(20:47):
they seem to love each other. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
I was wondering what tension she was referring to. But
when we get to the picnic portion of the women's
day out and we kind of get to Mary and
we're asking Mary to like, how are you doing? How
are you feeling? Like Mary is not happy in her
life right now, not happy at all. And we also
have Janelle saying something like, yeah, like we used to
(21:10):
meet for dinner two to three times a week, and
we really haven't done that since Robin came. Yep, I
did say that, right, we really haven't done that in
a while. Maybe we should get back to that. And
then Robin says something like, well, yeah, you know, Janelle
and Christine and I we hang out together, but like Mary,
we don't really see you a lot. And that's probably
(21:31):
because we have kids. Yeah, you don't because you're infertile
and you're not really a woman, and that's why Cody
doesn't love you. Because of course Robin brings up Mary's
infertility or issues conceiving or whatever. Anytime Robin can bring
that up, she does. Oh and she does it right
here at the picnic.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I know.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
It's like constant. It's so hurtful. And of course, like Mary,
she doesn't really get emotional at the picnic per se.
She clams up, though she does. She clams up because
she can't talk about vulnerability at all. And it was
just like really weird. Like I think Robin was the
one to point it out too, that Mary tends to
withdraw from the family, like when she's like not feeling
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well or like she's going through a tough time, and
I think she was like trying to pry that out
of Mary, but Mary again walls up, can't do it.
And then Christine says something like, well, maybe we should
have like more spontaneous times to hang out, Like maybe
we should just not really plan it, like let's just
make a conscious effort to hang out with each other,
even if it's spontaneous, And Robin and Mary laugh at her,
(22:35):
and I'm like Christine's genuinely just trying to co sign
what Janelle's saying and say like we should hang out together,
we should have more time together.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And Mary even says something like, yeah, I kind of
just prefer to hang out in my house and work
on my projects and do the things that interest me.
Like Mary is not interested in having friendships with these women,
and Robin acting like she's somehow closer to Christine in
Janelle versus. Mary is a lie, so she doesn't hang
out with any of these women. Now, is this the
(23:06):
part where we get the women on the couch And
Christine says something like, yeah, with Cody, you can always
tell which wife he's been hanging around when he comes
to your house, because he talks differently, he acts differently.
What did you make of that statement from Christine.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
That was crazy? I mean the fact that she had
the balls to say that, like on the couch on DV,
Like you could tell that Cody and Robin off guard
because they both looked at each other like very like suspicious,
like oh my god, they caught us, like they just
thought it was so weird that she pointed it out.
But Janelle co signed it too, so did Mary, Like
I can tell he you've been talking to by some
(23:45):
of the things that you say, and Mary says the
same thing, and.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
I'm like, oh, oh yes, and that's the tension. Yeah,
And that's where we're having a disconnect with these women
because he is at this point in twenty fourteen, I
think we are spending way more time with Robin, and
he's becoming indoctrinated to her way of thinking, being and existing.
And so by the time he deigns to spend any
(24:10):
time with the other wives, he's mimicking her. He's parroting
the same talking points. He's changing as a person. And
we have always said, like, yeah, Cody might be the
head of the family, but Robin is the neck and
the neck turns the head exact and so he's changing
and the women are noticing it, and that is causing
this underlying rift between everybody.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Oh definitely, I mean you can already feel it. And like,
I think the wives are trying to get together more
just because they're all lonely. Like I think that's the reason.
I think they also have Cody in their ear telling them,
like they have to be better sister wise, and they
have to be more together as a family because in Sedona,
you guys hate each other, and like, if I die,
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the family's not going to be around. Like I think
that they're trying really hard to be a family, to
try and be friends with everybody, but they can't be
because Robin doesn't like any of them. I don't think Mary.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I don't think Mary does. I don't think Janelle really
does either, although Janelle just seems more laid back and
able to assimilate into different things, like she's not going
to be any problem. But I do think it's a
problem for Robin interacting with these other women, And I
do think it's a problem for Mary because Mary doesn't
trust these other women, and you know, like even though
her walls are going up in this picnic scene. Like
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in her defense, I can see why because she's on
camera and she knows this conversation is performative. She knows
as soon as the camera's shut down, like they're going
to go back to doing the exact same thing that
they've been doing, that nobody really cares about her. That
Cody hasn't been sharing her home in her space for
probably a year or more at this point, yep, So
(25:46):
she knows this is all fake, and so she's not
going to be vulnerable in front of these women because
they don't truly care. Now. What I thought was interesting, though,
is that while these conversations are going on, like Ava
is there, it actually begins with Ava bringing up polygamy
and her expectations of this family because she's like, I
honestly thought that Cody was going to be a PERV,
(26:08):
Like when Brett told me that y'all were polygamous, I
was sincerely grossed out, Like, you know, how could anybody
live like this? And this guy must be a PERV,
which is so offensive. So like just comes out and
says that, And I was looking at the faces of
the wives like they don't know who she is, uh uh,
Like they're just filming something with this rando woman that
(26:31):
Brett brought with him, yep. And like she's calling them
out for like thinking they had a degenerate lifestyle and
they did not like that at all, and I don't
blame them.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
No, of course not. And then she also starts grilling
them about like Cody and him not showing PDA and
affection to all of the wives, and she's like, so
I've noticed something. When he's around all four of you,
he doesn't show any kind of affection. Why is that?
Speaker 1 (26:55):
And I'm like, girl, like, wow, you don't even know
these people.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
It's kind of crazy. I'm like TLC producers, put you please,
this is nuts. But like the women just give their
same old spiel of like, well, Blake, you know, we
don't want to just thrown in our face, like Mary
says that, like we know that he's fucking everybody else,
I mean mainly Robin, but like we just don't want
to be shown that because it'll make us feel bad
(27:21):
or whatever.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think it was Christine who says though, that it
was Cody's idea that they did not show public displays
of refection, whereas we were told that he was affectionate
with Mary, and then it was Janelle's mom, Cheryl, who
came along and said, like, this is upsetting to Janelle's
so don't do this. So I'm just like, it's very
interesting to see where the lore comes from.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Oh yeah, it's like who's telling the truth? Nobody, nobody.
We don't know what's true, what's real because they keep
changing the fucking script every few years. It's so annoying. Yep.
And then Ava says I think to the camera, like
I don't understand why they can't show PDA, like they
know he's sleeping with all of them, Like it does
it makes sense to me?
Speaker 1 (28:00):
And I'm like yeah, but I mean, at the same time,
you're in a monogamous relationship and you're sitting out here
commenting on somebody in an alternative lifestyle. You have no
lived experience in this lifestyle, and it's just like kind
of condescending for you to have an opinion at all.
They invited you into their space, they're sharing this time
with you, and the least you could be is just
nice about it, yeah, as opposed to like looking for
(28:20):
all the things that could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Right and analyzing their family.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And it's like her I didn't really like bread either. Interesting.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, maybe we'll talk about that later.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Okay, maybe we will.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah. And then after we have this conversation at the picnic,
then we have the conversation on the couch with all
the wives, and this is where Mary talks about becoming
an empty nester because Leon's going to college and I'm snory.
You know. Mary gets really emotional here, and this is
where she starts crying because she doesn't know like what
(28:52):
her role is going to be in life, what her
role is going to be in the family because she's
the only one with one child. And then she talks
about Howdy doesn't understand her experience because he's not actually
gonna be an empty nester. It's just Mary, and I
think like all the subtext here is that she's lonely,
af and nobody seems to care. Like she's literally crying
(29:14):
on the couch and all of the wives have stank faces,
like Janelle's not looking at her. Christine's kind of engaging,
but like also isn't sympathetic or saying anything.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Not reaching out and just saying, oh, I totally understand.
I mean, I don't know how you feel. Necessarily, but
I totally understand that you're feeling emotional. I'm here for
Like nobody reaches out to support Mary in that moment.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Not at all, And like Mary even starts thanking Christine
and Janelle for being there for her while they were
all raising all of the kids, not just Leon, but
like she thanks Janelle and Christine for even all of
the tough years and everything, like I'm glad that you
guys were there and I really appreciate it. And then
she cries to Robin and is like, I'm really sorry
that you weren't there, and like nobody's saying anything, nobody's
(29:59):
consoling her, awkward, and like Mary is being so vulnerable
trying to be and nobody's saying anything. It's like kind
of wild to me. I felt bad for Mary in
this moment, but at the same time, it's like.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I don't know, yeah, but I mean we've just been
having this conversation for quite some time, like with Mary
trying to decide whether she was going to use Robin
as a surrogate or do IVF for whatever, like that
was for three seasons, and she's been trying to wrestle
with what her position and her place is in this family,
and like that's only ever as deep as we go. Yeah,
(30:34):
we never really talk about the other things and the
family dynamics which might be lending themselves to her feeling
lonely because even on the couch, none of these wives
reach out to her, none of these wives try to
comfort her, so truly she is alone, and that's sad.
But like something a little different, a little bit more information,
like why aren't you talking to your sister wives, Like
(30:56):
why doesn't Cody come over? Like tell us that's actually
happening in your home, because if you're so abjectly lonely,
it's because something else is going on that you're not
sharing Exact's what's frustrating to me.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
It's like you probably wouldn't have had such an issue
with being an empty nester if you had a healthy
relationship with just one adult in the family. Like nobody
likes you, not even your husband, not even the older kids.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Really well, and I'm wondering how involved Leon has been
with Mary in terms of a relationship, but like it
might have only ever just been Leon that was Mary's friend, yeah,
or that was there to talk with Mary about Mary's issues,
And I don't know that Leon was parentified like Logan
was and Aspen was, but maybe Leon was. And so
(31:39):
now Mary's gonna lose the one person that she's had
at her side the entire time, Like that would be devastating. Yeah,
but Mary's not sharing at that level, so it's hard
for me to even connect with what's happening. And like,
why nobody seems to give a crap about Mary. I
know it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
But doesn't she meet Jen in Las Vegas?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Guess too, So.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
She'll probably meet Jen soon and it'll be fine. Yeah,
and hopefully we can get off of this fucking storyline
because it's like it is a lot. I agree with
you here. And then we jump on over to Guys Night.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Out, Oh Magoid, after everybody had their gate orgy in
the shower that we only had to imagine and it
was imagining it.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
I was. I was imagining it too. Yes, Brett, Cody,
and Sean go up to the Stratosphere in Las Vegas. Yeah,
and they go up to the tippy tippy top and
they go bungee jumping, which looked very fun. I've been
on the.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Stratosphere, Okay, I think I've I don't know if I've
been up on the stratosphere.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's fun. I went on the ride where I think
it's I can't remember what it's called, but it's the
one where you shoot up at the very top of
the needle. Very fun. Sounds fun, but the bungee jumping
looked great. I would totally do.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I would never you could Delia doing something like that.
I do not like hidespet I was.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
What I was telling your daughter today. I'm like, do
that for my fiftieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
What about like skydiving? Would you do something like that?
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I don't know if I could do skydiving because that's
like you could die. I mean I could die. Yeah,
that's scary. But I would totally do a bunch of
jumping ziplining from a top of a cliff like that'd
be so great.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Wow, yeah, that kind of stuff. So the guys seem excited.
I think Cody's trying to pretend he's really excited.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
I think the producers have coordinated this event totally. I
don't know that Cody was like one hundred percent on board,
but like Brett's totally into it. He goes first and
he just launches himself off the side of the building,
and Cody's like, damn yeah. And then Sean goes next,
and Shawn's maybe a little bit nervous, but he launches
himself off the building and Cody's just in the background nervous. Yeah,
he's talking. He doesn't want to not do it because
(33:39):
then he won't be a real man, which is kind
of like what the theme of this entire episode is
is like how much of a man is Cody? Not
much of a man, as it turns out, not much
of a man. But he finally gets his turn and
he forces himself to launch himself off of the strants there.
He screams all the way down, and then they go
(34:00):
to dinner and they have a conversation about male leadership
and I'm a snoring.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
I kind of hated this conversation because the men were
kind of coming for like the wives and just telling
Cody like, how can you deal with all these women?
Am I right? How can you deal with all these
women in their thoughts and opinions?
Speaker 1 (34:22):
It's like in their lives and like they're existing around you.
Are you okay?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Bro? Like? How can you lead with all this estrogen around?
It's like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Well, and Brett's like, you know, I'm obviously in a
monogamous relationship with my hoe ass wife Ava. Sorry, and
you know, when it comes down to it, like I lead,
it's my choice, it's my decision, and she knows that,
and so I'm in charge. But like, Cody, my guy,
are you really in charge though? Because you seem really
(34:53):
busy just running from house to house to house with
your hair flipping in the wind, and it seems like
your women are actually telling you how it's going to be.
So looks like you're a little bit of a cook.
That's just what I'm getting. That's what I'm feeling.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
What they're telling you, a cook man, you're a beta
ass simp, Like that's what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Yes, that's what it was giving.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I was kind of watching this and I'm like, damn,
I kind of feel bad for Cody just a little
bit of this conversation, Like it's kind of great to
have these men, like these real men telling him you
know what I mean, you know what I mean, Like
these these macho men compared to Cody telling him you're
a loser.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
These women are running you around.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, you're a beta and Cody's like, well, I'm an
alpha mil.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Yeah, Like he just says those words like I've never
met a manly man. Who ever said I'm a manly man? Duh?
Like look at me, I'm all man honey, Like right, No,
you just know when you're in the presence of a
man who's a man exactly, and if you are an
insecure man who's trying to compete in the world of men,
(35:53):
you say something like I'm an alpha male.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I mean, duh.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Look, I'm the leader. It's me absolutely. I lead this family.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
I lead it very subtlely, though, Yeah, that's what he says,
very subtle leadership, Like wow, you mean passive leadership.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Non leadership is my type of leadership.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
I guess I kind of wonder if, like all of
these conversations that Cody has had on camera so far,
and maybe off camera he probably has other guys telling him, like,
you're kind of a beta, yeah, Like, I wonder if
this started maybe his dad, well maybe.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
I think his dad is still alive at this point,
maybe this.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Started his whole like manisphere pipeline like path where he
started going down like the alpha male road like the
Andrew Tates.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, because when did that emerge in the zeitgeist because
this is like twenty fourteen, twenty.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Fifteen something like that. I'm thinking, like.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
Andrew Tait and QAnon and all of that weird stuff
started like twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Something like that.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
But there was, but it was it was in the ether.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
There had to have been like other alpha males back
then that we just didn't.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I wasn't paying it. I still don't pay attention.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I don't pay attention to it at all. But I
just wonder if this kind of started it, because Cody
does seem insecure here and like he's trying to prove
the fact that he is the leader of his family,
and he goes on in his talking head about how
he's the leader of his family and like, yeah, I
listened to their concerns and everything, but ultimately I'm the man,
and they all know that I'm the man, and they
(37:15):
all know that I'm the one that makes the decisions.
And it's like, okay, I don't think so. And then
we go on the couch and we talk about the
situation where Janelle refused to move to Utah when they
were living in Wyoming, right, and Janelle's the one that
brings it up, I think, and she's like, yeah, Cody
was trying to tell me that I needed to move
to Utah and I'm I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Well, actually, Cody is the one who brings up this
story to the guys at dinner as if to demonstrate
how much of a leader he was. Oh right, Like,
the story actually illustrates that he's not a leader, because
in the story, he's telling Janelle when they're living in Wyoming, look,
I've got this job opportunity in Utah. We've got to go.
Let's go. And Janelle's like, absolutely not uncomfortable here. If
(37:57):
you want to go, get on go. And so Cody
does leave, and then Janelle at some point starts to
miss him, and of course she's got children with him,
and so she decides on her own because she's a Taurus, Honey,
you can't move a Torus until she's ready to go. Yep,
she decides on her own that she's going to move
to where Cody is in Utah. But like the way
Cody's describing it is like, yeah, I won that one,
(38:17):
I'm like, no, Actually, Janelle was the leader in that,
because Janelle said no, Janelle did exactly what she wanted
to do, and when Janelle was ready, she's like, Okay,
I missed the d You'm go to move to Utah
and then she does Yeah, so Janelle led, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Good job Cody, Yeah, real leader alpha male. So ridiculous.
I said that whole thing was so dumb. And then
I think we talk more about like Cody and Brett's relationship,
and I just like, don't care at all. And then
we end the episode with Mary and her random TLC
producer friend Andrea going too Joey Anne Fabrics, Yeah, to
(38:52):
pick out fabric for Leon's blanket for college. R Mary's
gonna make them a blanket of purple gold and whatever.
And this is where Mary again talks about how sad
she is of being an empty nester.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I did find it interesting, though, that Mary does seem
to have a lot of great women friends around her.
I think that's a testament to her character overall. And
of course we have never met Andrea, and we know
that while Mary's in Vegas, she's going to start making
more friends and then we're going to have even more
(39:27):
friends as the seasons go on. But like, Mary can't
be all that bad if She's got friends that are
showing up for her when Cody won't, when Robin's not there,
when the other wives don't care. You've got this person
Andrea who's going to take her to the fabric store
maybe to work on this blanket, and they have the
conversation about empty nesters, and she has friends there for her.
(39:47):
I just think that that says a lot about her. Yeah,
it could maybe mean girls have friends though too, that's true,
But I mean, like, I don't think she's a mean
girl with these women. I think these women genuinely really
like Mary. Yeah, that means Mary, he's likable. I think
that furthers our argument that Mary just doesn't show us
who she really is on this show. Like and she's
(40:08):
been talking in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty
five about like, you know, worthying up and you're gonna
see me and when I can talk, I'm going to talk.
Because I guess she's felt the need over all of
these seasons to continue to hide, continue to lie, continue
to project this beautiful family that never was. So I
just think that underneath that all, if we had ever
(40:29):
seen the real Mary, she would have been a chill,
awesome girl and we would have liked.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Her definitely, and maybe if she was the real Mary
with like Christine and Chanelle, they probably would have had
like a better relationship. And like maybe if they could
have actually talked about their issues and stuff and like
went to therapy together and actually dug deep into the
root of their issues, maybe they could have all been friends.
But I digress. Yeah, and then we have the preview
(40:53):
where we have Aspen and Leon discussing their parents dancing
at their graduations.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, the graduation party and what they want and what
they expect, and everybody's super excited about it because they
love a party, those Browns.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I mean, hey. And then we have Robin saying she
wants to hire a fortune teller.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
Right, well, she does bring in like a tarot card reader,
which I'm just like, okay, hold up.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
At Leon's graduation.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
At Leon's graduation party. But like there's these rumors again
in the ethers about Robin being kind of witchy woo
woo and having her crystals and everything in her house
and what if she's a witch and we're all talking
about manifesting all of a sudden. I don't think she's
a witch, Don't get me wrong. I think she's probably
a bit new age metaphysical. But it's just curious to
(41:39):
me that a bunch of Mormon fundamentalists would have a
tarot card reader. I know, like Olivia, maybe that was
her first step too of leaving the religion. She got
herself a tarot card reading. Maybe that's just bizarre.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Taro's the gateway drug, maybe, so it's kind of ridiculous.
But the tarot reader says that Cody's gonna have a
fifth wife, and Cody seems awkward about that. And then
we have Mary at Leon's graduation and she's like freaking
the fuck out because she can't see Leon walk down
the state right, and she's getting all.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Dramatic, having a tantrum.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
My God, And then we have the graduation party for it,
I think Leon ann aspin.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yes, and all the adults are dancing and it's super cringe. Yeah,
making it about themselves, of course, because anytime Cody can
dance for the public, he's going to do it, and he's.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Going to do it so bad.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yes, he is. Well again, you know, this was like
kind of a nothing burger episode. Yeah, but if you've
got your monocles out and if you're sniffing the air
like we do as raccoons, we can smell some homosexicality. Yeah,
we can see the tension and things are becoming clear. Yeah,
what's going on in the cul de Sac is not good.
(42:46):
I just didn't know because I didn't watch these seasons either.
I didn't know that it was from the very beginning.
I thought like the family started to fall apart, like
maybe midway through the cul de Sac journey, But it
was like from the first months that it all began.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
From the ever since Robin came into the picture, like
they were struggling.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, but they thought that the cul de Sac was
the answer to bringing it all back together. But like
it feels like Robin just ramped up her antics and
started demanding more of his time and money. And again
you have Janell, who doesn't give a crap as long
as she's fine and comfortable. You've got Mary who's just
stuck in her silence in her lonely haunted home. And
(43:24):
then you get Christine, who at this point is just
stewing in her jealousy and having to negotiate for time
with Cody by giving her garage up for wrestling mats.
It's like actually pretty sad. It is really crazy. I
like feel bad for Christine in this moment because she's
like angry and justifiably so, like she's upset and sad,
(43:46):
but like, who does she have to talk to nobody?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Nobody?
Speaker 1 (43:48):
She just can drop like little bombs on the couch
to let everybody else know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
Oh by the way, if you're watching on YouTube, how
many of you have pre ordered Christine books? Oh yeah,
drop a comment and or are you looking forward to
her book? Do we think that there's going to be
something of interest there? Because you know, there was a
rumor that Cody got attorneys involved demanding that Christine acts
(44:16):
one of the chapters in her book because I guess
it dealt with one hundred thousand dollars that went missing
out of the family fund. This is the rumor. And
I don't know, obviously, and I would hope that Christine
wouldn't remove that.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
From the book.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
So maybe it will be in the book, But there's
a rumor he asked her to remove that part of
the book because she was outing him for stealing money allegedly.
I don't know, so, I mean, like I kind of
want to order it.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
You should.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Well, it's like twenty six bucks and it's just guaranteed
to be lame. It's guaranteed to not give me what
I want. But I feel like it is our professional duty.
We should read it and review it because yeah, I'm
sure everybody wants us to. Well, maybe we can talk
about it in like the after show. I do like
chapter by chapter and like get into it. But I'm
(45:04):
just wondering if you guys are interested, are you looking
forward to it or you're like, I'm not giving these
people any more money? How do you feel? Let us
know in the comments or on Instagram. You can DM
our girl Beatrice. She loves see her form. Yeah, well now, Beatrice,
is there anything else that we need to say to
these beautiful raccoons before we start our after show?
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Well, if you love our podcast, please be sure to
go to your favorite podcast platform and leave us a
glowing five star review. Five really helps us grow the
pod so more people can join us in the dumpster,
and we really appreciate it, so thank you again.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
We are going to move now to our after show.
We're going to be talking about a lot of gossipy items,
but we will be back next week to continue our
Sister wife's conversation and our recaps, and so until then,
please do not forget that we have nothing but love
for you and peace. A night, guys,
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