September 16, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, real Tone, this the real money in the room.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I came with one and one of my big homies,
big fave, and you could feel it. You could just
feel it in the air because that day they didn't
let us get no blicks in. They didn't get us,
they didn't let us get no blicks in. So you
had to either be ahead of time and have you're
a little knife or you feel me like that. But
(00:25):
Draco wasn't thinking that day, you know, because he ended
up getting pushed up on.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hey real Tone, this Real money. The Welcome to Real
Tune TV podcast hosted by Me Louis Sachi.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Today we got a very very special guest. Yeah, boy
d W Flame all the way from the East side
of the Long Beach. Hold On, man, you gotta let
me say you gotta let me say your name.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Man, hold on and my boy had d W Flame Man,
LBC spied, it's what's up, d.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
W what's up? Money, Louis, We're going still you on
their dead homies. That's gonna start from the top. Man. Uh,
let us know where you're from again and tell us
you know about all that I'm from. I'm from the
East side Long Beach. Sinko boys. You know, twenty first Street,
the worst street, you hear me?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So that Long Beach. That's what Snoop dog We know,
everybody know, that's what Snoop from. What side was Snoop from?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Snoop from the east side. I'm from the east side. Okay,
both y'all east side boys, that's the worst side, the
best side. Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's what's up. How
was it growing up there? When you know, when you
were young, it was what I would call a beautiful struggle.
Beautiful struggle. Elaborate on that just being in Loan Beach,
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like I would say, because it was a big thing
with with race, it was a big thing with gang banging,
and there was a big thing just trying to survive,
you feel me. And then besides Snoop Dogg if you
ain't know him personally, and like dog and we ain't
really know nobody, We ain't see nobody make it out,
(02:04):
so all we knew was maybe basketball, maybe football, because
and gang banging. You feel me, So, Nate Dogg, I
didn't even know. I didn't even think about that. How
did y'all take that? Nate dog Oh yeah, that Nate
Dogg was the first person who ever could seen this
gangster in a way like that. You never heard nobody
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singing though what better laylo. Yeah, you never heard noh
like that until Nate Dogg came came. And that's our sound,
that gangster gang banging music that East Siders come out,
you feel me, that all type of all that you
hear and Snoop doing trading and them did, and that
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was our sound when we was younger, like that's all
we heard. So we grew up to that what we
call it crib hop. Oh Peter legend man, it was
Wrange also from Yeah Warrange, Shout out that's one of
oh ge man. Shout out one G. That's one who
do help the youth. You feel me and do what
he can you dog.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I met him, he was real cool. I met him
in Vegas one time. Shout out to Warren G.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Definitely we got yeah, shout out one uh for sure,
that's one of my dogs right there. He'd help if
when I was younger and I ain't even had no
shows really booked, cause with he would put me on
his shows, I mean, open up big arenas and all
types of even with my last show I deal with Warren.
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My name Draco the Ruler got killed. That was a show. Yeah,
we did a show. I think it was summertime and
or a day in La or something like that. I
came with Warren and one of my big homies, big fave,
and you could feel it. You could just feel it
in the air because that day they didn't let us
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get no blicks in. They didn't get us. They didn't
let us get no blicks in. So you had to
either be ahead of time and have your little knife
or you feel me like that. But Draco wasn't thinking
that day, you know, because he ended up getting pushed
up on mine.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Draco just got out. He beat two life sentences and
he beat the death penalty, and it ain't like him,
you feel me from certain sides, and they had they beef,
so Draco wasn't no neither. So when they ended up
running up on Draco, Draco wasn't expecting to have a
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knife on me. You know. He just know tomorrow on
the internet if he ran you might be like Draco,
bitch mine you. Draco is like the hortdest in La
at the time, so he wasn't going and he was,
and he was fresh out of jail, so he wasn't
going he up there, but some of his bros, not
all of them, but some of them skateboarders, you know,
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lean shippers, them got chops for show. But that day
they went up again against a gang and who wasn't
playing either? Who used to that, used to squabbling, used
to who really owned that? You feel me? So it
went hard and when these were cribs. Also, Draco was
from stink To so that was really his own little squad.
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But he with the cribs for the most part and
Inglewood the like, he had a little beef with Inglewood.
So that's a lot of blood. You feel me, basically, yeah,
for sure. So it just was what it was. It
was that time. You feel me so, and I can
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say that thing properly protect the money because they let
him fight. You feel me? My brothers in them, like
you know, I can't say what I would what I
would have done if it wasn't me, But I've been
there in those situations and my brothers would have been like,
grabbed me by my shirt because I'm always ready to
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step in front. They're protecting the bag, like get so
weird act you feel me. So while certain run there
and certainly trying to help Draco, it just couldn't you
feel me. If a lot of those front line with him,
they would have seen that with the you feel me,
pay attention they go because they go you feel me.
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But they went high and went.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I guess I'm a little lame because in my mind,
when you got no guns, I'm thinking that's like a
metal detector or something.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So it's assuming no knives. Also, but certain ones of
us rode in and tour buses or uh uh, sprinter
you feel me? So they let the super superstars come
through in the sprinter, but they still a check us
as we walked through. Like it's always ways to get
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Lewis you feel me. We get in the in the
pend Okay, that sounds like we get in jail.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So you think we can't get past a little metal detector,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, we're not gonna talk about the way they get
it in jail. It's all type of ways to get
it in. Sometimes they Texas don't work.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, let's talk about a game, Draco ther r I P.
Let's talk about a and then it's funny to go
back to you saying, if he would have like just
got away instead of standing his ground, he would be alive.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And it's this guy's a deep choice right there. If
he would have tucked his pride and got out the way,
he would have probably been here today. It was a
little hole that we always went by that you could
squeeze through. That certainly did squeeze through. That he probably
could have squeezed through. But he wouldn't even he didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Then again, he don't know that the dude got the thing.
That's that's another that would have been another that would
have been a good viral moment for him if he
would have got beat up.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Whatever. You know the truth about cub so, but I
can't say it's always the smartest decision. You feel me.
But let me tell you one thing about realness. Me
in that situation, if I would have ran and slipped
through the gate without my brother's grabbing me telling me
later on it ate me up. You ain't gonna be
look in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I hate that, And then I would have to think
about you over and over.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's that's a weak thing for me. So I know,
as any real men, even when you let it know
before if you let it get a pass and he
look he said something you let it go. You looky
thinking about that because now he's telling people to bitch.
Even if you wouldn't it just eat at you. I
can't wait to see you. I'm thinking about you. You
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don't want that feeling. Neither make you feel like less
of a men or look forward to seeing cousin again
to get you. And that's a downfall too.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Let's talk about the gang culture and how you ended
up becoming a crip and longbeat east Side.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I said, I mean it was in my face, being
in my face my day that a crib. My whole
family cribs for sure. Like so it's just cripping was
cool when we was younger. They pull up big stadans
and you know money, they off drugs, whatever. But they
look at so fly, they looking like they you know,
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that's what you want to be. They getting the hose.
They got a bank roll. That's what we want a
bank roll. You feel me older that I knew from
different hoods from grapes shut out. Some of the grapes
that know me from back then used to pull out
they wid money, shoot it to me. That's something that
I used to look up to. We ain't have that,
you feel me, So that's how I go.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I guess I got a different aspect because I'm thinking
gang banging is very violent. It's very violent, and it's
it's they din't shoot it out, said everybody active. So
when did they get a chance to raise a DW
flying U chat? How do they get a chance to
raise kids?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh? No, were talking about were talking about barbecues, We
talking about family, We talking about coming together, were talking
about meetings, were talking to about you know, good vis
being at the parks, going to clubs together, brotherhood like
where we all saying it sounds like more structure than
I had, and I wouldn't game bang. I mean, you know,
at first it was a community revolution in progress. Oh
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so like no matter what I see the beauty in it,
you feel me. But what never knew was just like
the Italians, this ain't real without no money. So that's
where it becomes bullshit where we want to shore on
each other and not have it going around. We ain't
giving them jobs. We ain't got this even you know,
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just the youngs on homies, it stopped. Stop giving them work,
You feel me? They stop telling us something good. You
ain't even got to give us nothing to be a OG,
but good advice too, Tell me go to school. We
used to have that. We used to have OG's that
be like, get up out of here, take your way
to school. You feel me? Once they left, it was us,
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so my hood, the babies, and we low key we
went against everything mine, you and loan beach, crips, all cribs.
We start wearing red just because you feel me, because
we could do what we want to. Y'all was trying
to piss o gs. Yeah, and we bro you don't
even know after school even just wearing like skinny jeans
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and like that wasn't cool. After school. They used to
get on our app but we became so thick and
became so on that, you know, we ended up beefing
with some of our OG's who wasn't there, Like when
they come home, you can't tell us name if you
ain't give us nothing, and you wasn't there with us
this crib and we pushed the line, you know what
I'm saying. So we ended up we ended up getting
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all along after years on years, you feel me, because
they knew it was a new era too, and we
in Loan Beach. You ain't gonna mistake me for no blood.
But they knew the babies we didn't. That might push
through here with the red is the Indian chief. See
the Indian Chief red Franklin gloves. You feel me might
have red dye hair? Were coming through that different putting
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on everything? Where are you from? Babies? You either you
wit it or you not. And that was up too,
because we didn't put on so many and that was
our downfall too.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Putt putting on. Yeah, it wasn't even be for some
wanted numbers. Yeah, it was just us or nothing, you
feel so, But it was all brothers. We would link up.
If you couldn't make it to the means, we have
seen somebody come get you.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So what's the biggest difference, if you had to say so,
between lb C and the l A culture us in
Loan Beach, we we always got a little thing going
on with LA. But it really ain't nothing because really
we went in the same but we kind of to
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first start wearing switching up our swag wear.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
The skinny jeans, you know, little dye hair or scale.
We was in Long Beach. We had a lot of
skate parks, so we knew how to skateboard or type
of be like, oh this is this or that. But
when we hit that, hold on, let me get this
that y'all skate. Y'all shoot, do y'all shoot.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
A hand skate? Let me I'm gonna right now with that.
I'm already give folk. Listen, you two why we skateboard up?
Thinking Lil Wayne tripping like he don't want to be
a gainster no more so you can still be a
gangster and skate.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, you got a lot of gangsters is talented. Let's
get that. Some of the most talented. The first, the
first Jordan might be in jail, you hear me. But
besides that, the first, the first, Terry Kennedy t K,
the skater used to be with for real, he from
my hood. He's a yeah, he's from my hood for babies.
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T K Yeah, used to go out with Angela's in. Yeah.
But I'm just still trying to When do y'all have
do he really inspired? When do y'all have time to skate? Like?
Where do y'all bang? Like as kids everywhere down the street.
We it got so deep the pop their skateboard it
be a gun at theout and hold on.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It must be very peaceful and Long Beach because if
everybody crips, you have no rivals, right, Oh, y'all you.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Would think that, right, That's what I'm saying. Sad it like,
it's we pretty good. Everybody cris what's up? What's up?
That's why I preach so stupid. You feel me at
the end of the day. But it's always a you know,
an ego thing. But one thing when I grew up
was it was a big race war. You feel me.
We said that earlier. I didn't. I assume you was
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talking about blacks and browns, right, right. White people ain't
got to do with this, no, because white people was
just white people like in Long Beach us too, Like
between the difference between Long Beach and l A. If
you're talking about l A l A now holly Wood,
Long Beach is beautiful, got beaches, We got singing.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Like when you go down, you think people disrespect y'all
cripping because y'all is so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Uh, that'd be the stupidest thing to do. That's like
disrespecting you know. When you as a kid and we
used to make front of the smart kids.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's dumb as a painted like nerd I was, I
was one of the smart kids.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I'm saying, wasn't that so stupid? Though? For us to
make fun of it for being smart? That's something. So
why would you, Yeah, nerd, he's oh that nerd, you stupid.
I think they cool because they don't do their work
like so in Loan Beach, that's what we always had.
Like I'm like, this is slow if they think because
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when you go past our central area you could go
to the beach, we got nice that it ain't that's
how you.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Die, Okay, But what I'm saying, if you got beach,
you got all this nice stuff, your vibrations seemed like
they would be high.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So on that side, no beach, no vibration, right, I
wouldn't I just assume they would be more ruthless than you,
uh half guys, the guys with something that's like that's
like Dallas and forward forward to me, for we're gonna
be more up in the head because we ain't got
nothing in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They got a little more opportunity.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So I wouldn't expect a Dallas person to be as
lost as a foreword.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I mean we had a beach to go to, we
had a move there, we got like a sight to see.
But we ain't have nothing that you ain't that you
ain't have like we had the county building, we got,
eb tea we got. We ain't got no opportunity. Ain't
nothing given to us that was built downtown. That's more
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for the tourists.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
If we go down there, you quick to get put
in the patty the patty wagon. So I'm letting the beach.
I'm really letting the beach station sweet because it's on
the beach.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's right, like certain place as you go to you
thinking this week because we because we got a few,
ain't nobody died on that beach? What that now? Now?
Now now you got me now, so you could die
on that same beach.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay, you could die on the beach. That's why we
can't go to the beach. And it ain't it's see
in my mind the beaches. But if you can die there,
oh man, it's long beach.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So it's us like and then imagine this all the
young we go down to the beach, We take the
bitches to the beach because we ain't got no money,
you feel me, But you could go to the beach
and have a good time, hell of a day. And
then the ops thinking that too.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But stop what ops cryp crypt crips. Okay, So I'm
from insane, insane. It's damn near the biggest game in
Long Beach. Then it's twenties where Snoop from. That's another
big game in Long Beach. That's our main rivals. You
feel me, even some of my cousins all that you
feel me.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
So we gonna see each other down there, and then
the other gangs from the West side, from the North
side gonna come down there.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
When we developed our friendship, I did not know you
were rivals with uh Snoop.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I thought you and Snoopy. Let's get this right, I
ain't a rival with Snoop. Snoop still a o G. Right.
It's to the point like if you go against Snoop,
you wear because he did so much. He a real
Long Beach. Now he's past just a game. His one
of his main bodyguards is my big um Blue from
the hood. So back in the back of the blue
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where the Blue is from, he from insane.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Same yeah, he so insane protects twenty basically that's what
that's y'all need to cut it out, do y'all need
to let it go. It's over.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's over now, insane protecting the twiny now that we together,
now that's our OG's right had a theme because we
put trades twenties deuces and rolling called deuces and trades
the old fashioned way. That's the older they used to
all kick it played Domino's here, you know. And then
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it always comes a time where you know, somebody biggerness,
I'm by boom. Once one of our homies get killed,
now you know, the war starts. That's just how it go,
you feel me. Even with my cousins, I got cousins.
We didn't got any riots. And my cousin pushed in
here like it's just twenties, and I look at him,
Oh what's up, coach? You look at me like I'm
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staying with about foting my hommies. This hoummies push in
by fuck, Oh, it's that time. What about your mama?
He's mama, ain'ty now? Y'all forgot your cousins. We don't
got to fuck all that sometime, though you get what
I'm saying, it don't make sense but at the moment
it don't make sense. But you gotta respect when it's
on that. But if you my cousin, and we about
to all get into a ride, we at the bowling
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alley and you go this way, I go that way.
You feel me, just stay on my way. We've been
a squarel but you just go. Don't let me. Don't
be cause don't.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, we ain't gonna fight each other, but we're fighting.
I'm fighting your friends and you're fighting my friend.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Even when I go to jail and running there and
they're like, hey, ain't you d w oh, yeah, you
got faith in here. My cousin in there too, my
cousin the week. That was funny.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You get to jail, You get to jail. You just
got to jail. As soon as you walk in here. Hey,
ain't you you?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yes, Okay, they're waiting on you right there. Yeah, you
got pucks in there. Four And I'm gonna take my
shirt off and foat that up. And this from the
previous time you were in here, or some happen every time,
every time, it doesn't matter. Every time. When I walk
in this bit, if I see him, he see me,
we know what time it is. And I gotta go
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in there in that one. I got the option to
go in that one or this one. But if you
go in there when use a hoe, I'm a hoe
because I ain't going there. I'm coming in there. Whether
it's two or fifteen of them, I'm coming in there.
But as a g they gonna respect you when you
get down once twice and be like, look, we're gonna
let you breathe for a while, or might let it
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go black man, but we need that. Still you still
be on the internet missing us saying you kill WHOOPI
whooping and WOOTI whoop.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Where's four Extra from? I want to throw that in
so extra from foties. That's l a okay, what's your
relationship with four Extra?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It ain't too much of a relationship, but we just
need to hear about each other like like that. For
the most part, we just talked a little bit. But
uh for extracy for fodies, he a crip and he
doing this thing on here. I support it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, that's really big there because a lot of people,
you know, y'all have a lot of coming. We'll bring
that up later. The one thing y'all got in coming. Yeah, yeah,
hot topics. Uh, brick baby, what about that relationship?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I ain't got too much of a relationship with cuse
I tried it. It didn't work, you know what I'm saying.
Or what's the best on cut free cut here in
jail free?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So okay, So when you said it didn't work, it
was it was it about the the viral moment that
that happened.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Was that the thing that broke it up. Yeah, for
the most part was build a new thing for the
because you know, I'm moving. He rolling base sill building
a new thing for the black community, and he just
ain't know how to. He didn't know what side pig,
you know what I'm saying. Like when it came to
who was really his friends, he kind of got tricked
out of his position. So and that's what happened. He
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let people think, oh, d w this you looking like
a woo wool and really me and him sitting back chilling,
him laughing. You know what I'm saying, He made a
mistake online. I made a mistake online gainst just like
in jail, I might ask you for the wrong thing
that dis your hood, but I'm not thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I was watching it. I loved how y'all had. I
loved how he but I know that everybody was keysing
people back and.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Everybody was calling him. It just was too much. The pressure.
You you find out who you is when you under pressure.
He's the big blow up when he walked in there. Yeah,
and he ain't got to do that. All he got
to do is look, bro, he said whatever men couz hollered.
Even if we gotta do whatever just to make it cool,
that's what it is. And I'm gonna stick by because
I know he thorough because he know that. You know
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what I'm saying. We had too many talks, had kids
around kids, So if I was trying to disrespect you,
I would.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Like, Well, when he came back in there, he made
it or or evident that y'all were extra close, like
that's my boy.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Like why y'all trying to turn me in? Dw A
getst each other. Yeah, and we just became close on
that podcast, like before that, that wasn't my boy. So
even sometime when he said all the brothers, I wasn't
with it too much. But if we're building something, okay,
you feel me. But if you leave in the podcast
saying oh I disrespected him too in his face, lying
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and then coming to me like you just let it go.
It was weird, you feel me like I could see
that you're not built for this, like I told my homies,
because some of my homies asked me, why even apologize
about it, because you know it is what it is.
But I'm like, that's my boy.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And it seemed like it's hard to be to continue
to be a real member and to do to be
a businessman because it's always getting away.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It seems like, yeah, so you but you can say that.
But I got to say, Snoop, Snoop, I would say
the biggest artists in them in the world, not the best,
but the biggest.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
But can I tell you what I really believe what
I'm gonna tell what I really don't believe. I don't
believe Snoop is cripping. I think Snoop is if there's
an active crippling like people say I'm active. I don't
think Snoop has been active since he's been a teenager.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
No, he's not a gang banger, but he's just a member. Okay,
that's what I'm saying. This need to banging a member,
right right? So, But The thing is, Snoop then went
through a lot of politics. So Snoop went through a
lot of politics where he had to please certain people
or had to do certain things because certainly feel he
oweded the streets for saying it there, or because you know,
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he's banging the gang and he ain't showing up when
they want him to or putting them on. So he's
that he ain't got none to prove now. He was
soa He went through everything that I'm even looking forward
to going through, you feel me? So Snoop, No, he
can't do everything, but he a big dog at this point.
So it ain't no beef like Snoop from twenties. That's cool,
like my cousin's from twenties. But it don't really matter.
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I'm to the point where it's little you feel me.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Back to the brick baby situa, How did you react
to the big arrest, with the big U situation all that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
What did you think about that?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I thought, I'm glad I wasn't on there talking about
No he's supposed to be talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Everybody they got It was from Lao, right, yeah, yeah,
it was from la For the most part. A couple
of my people. Even my sister was on there too
that she just served food and cooking, but they got
her wrapped up in there. But yeah, I just was
like a couple of them was on No Jumper You
Feel Me, and I just like, I'm glad it wasn't
(25:59):
me who talked about self and no like that because
the police was watching everything still live mm hmm my.
So I kind of I kind of if if there
was any way for me to get in the middle
of it, our dogedy, Well, I thank God for that. Yeah,
(26:19):
I went on No Jumper and I got my own
podcast out of it that was positive You Feel Me?
And then I brought Nick Cannon on there, and I
brought I brought who I bring Nick Canner, I brought
my do USC, I brought, I brought a couple of
different and just trying to promote them and their business
and give people a positive way, a positive vibe. You
(26:39):
feel Me?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And you were real asset on there. Yeah, factual you
bring up you bringing up I wanted to go there.
Yet we're gonna wait on Nick Ken, We're gonna wait
on that now. But let me ask you about this,
since we had the No Jumpers, uh that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That by the viral moments.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
The other viral moment with the six old having up
clapping in your face.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Thing, yeah six out seven, shout out six or seven here,
all of my mom got on my mom. He got
a d w thing. That's how I knew. That's how
I knew you was grown when you were grewing this game.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Cause, man, when you sit down with him and didn't
take it serious, and I was.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Like, okay, but I think he's funny. I think he
had character.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man, I think he may be number two besides Gee,
I think he the funniest him. But yeah, I respect
him to just keep doing your thing, man, shout out
six out seven.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Non with all the clapping.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
The situation, that was just the beginning, But like break
that down, how you say like you used to?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
You know, he said he was Saint Louis and all that.
Yeah he was. He was playing, but I'll be with
it for Saint Louis. So I kind of got that
he was playing, but I didn't. I was still fresh
at no Jumper, so I didn't want to. I didn't
want to will cousin and already get put off the
platform and make it look like I'm a I have
to go to jail, lose your job all in one
one lick what you say. You said, I'm big, so
(28:06):
no matter what what I do, like, I'm bullying you
big old time.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I'm the coolest one. Everybody else playing hard, but I'm glad.
I want you to know that you said it don't
matter because what's side.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yes, where I'm from, it don't matter what size you
is because I haven't seen the biggest, for I haven't
seen the little the smaller be giants before. What did
you say about you said?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Somebody they real because you know they said no matter
what you said, but I will shoot you, like for real.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I got a bro. I got one of my bros,
uh done and be like, I do this to you,
and he'd be like, he probably will. But you know
that's all I was saying about you.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You're the big You're the I will Damn they don't
get that, but you're definitely getting that. Yes, but I
will shoot you, see, like that's the only defense, not
even in shoot you.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I'm just way more. I'm way more grimier than you.
You feel me because a lot of big nigs, a
lot of names be soft.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay, d w Let's bring up a career moves, the
No Jumper thing? Did you get fired from No Jumper?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Like? What happened with that situation? In a way, I
would say, not just me. They had to do away
with a lot of people because of the funds, and
Adam had like going on behind the scenes getting sued
like that, and because it was too much, We had
too much, you know what I'm saying, Like I think
(29:30):
we had kind of got into it a little bit
before that. But because he was playing with me, like
he played with breaking them a little bit. He was trying,
he said, d w because I said down, I don't
really come to their parties. He said, you be thinking,
He said, you got bad energy because you be thinking.
We got to invite you in order for you to come.
(29:52):
But this is just Adam, my white boy talking how
you talk to them. He basically saying, I think I'm
too good. But mind you, I don't go to I
don't go to freaky parties like you need to go.
You need to go to parties, bitch, just everybody, and
I don't have to go to that. You feel me
to each his own feels. But when he said that,
(30:12):
I just bounced up because I didn't want to actually
really scare cuse or reach across the table on becuz
because my brothers wasn't there. Usually my brothers be like,
d w you faded and I was faded that day.
They always act like I'm faded and I be tripping
so butaded so, but I wasn't. I wasn't tripping. I
(30:34):
don't really play around too much with that word, and
I don't play around with them with it, you feel me,
So I just I give what I can accept, and
I can't accept that because I don't give out.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
That you was just at the wrong podcast. Everything he
plays with wag like everybody gonna get it, but you
gotta be, you gotta be. It's you gotta be. It's
certainly too able to do that. Like, you know, it's
certain people who successful who could play like that all
the way from white dudes like Will Ferrell and you know,
I got brothers in the hood that be playing with
(31:04):
each other on little wirds.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That's just not really my geting. And even though Adam cool,
we cool talk to kids and shit. So I ain't
gonna really just flex him cause I know he's playing.
But we in front of the world, and I keep
myseluf trill, they waiting for any you know who playing.
I know Adam plan like, I know that's how he played.
(31:30):
I know that. I know he didn't mean dw ur
a bitch to me? To me what he to me?
You know how you see what you can get out
of it. I think he was you know, he knew you,
and so he that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Was his introduction to see if he can play with you,
and you rejected.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It, and I think he knew that. I you know,
I'm not not open to just laughing and joking and
playing with my knicks because I do that. But that
just wasn't one of them things. So I bounced up
and I hollered at him after the podcast about it.
On a serious note. He apologized, I'll let him know
like the regular meat would have reached over to the
table slapt out you you feel me, But you know
(32:10):
I know you ain't mean that. I know what type
of person you is. I'm glad you apologizing whatever, whatever,
but i'mly saying like, just don't do that with me now.
I guess I want to be a little missed.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I was gonna say I don't want to be missing,
but you just said Adam was getting going through lawsuits
and all that.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Is there anything that the public? Is there any public information?
Is that? I'll just I mean, for the most part,
he just put out. He put out the information. So
it ain't nothing. I'm saying that it can't be said.
I never say that. I ain't already said, okay, give
it to me. So I don't know. Supposedly somebody who
being some shit happened to him at No Jumper. And
(32:49):
I'm not talking about Dejon, I guess a white boy
or something. They end up suing Adam for some shit
that happened to him at No Jumper. And this supposedly
took a told on his pockets. Oh they got that
money that I think. So that's why Adam was to
look up which one of his white guests did that.
That's why he was on the internet saying and that's
(33:11):
why he had cut down on certain like that. So
they be saying he going broke. That was the beginning
of Yeah. I mean, but you know, I don't know.
I don't count cut pockets. I don't even wish nothing
bad on him because a lot of this that's that
comes to light is other people fought you said with
your own mouth. Adam ain't forced you to do nothing.
(33:33):
Like when people blame laugh for being the police. Y'all
doing the police work. Y'all going on there and say
we slide on him. We're doing that from from Cally
to the Rack, to New York to everywhere. Texas come
and act like the hardest, looks like they're the hardest thing,
smoking and saying who got the most bodies? What losers?
(33:55):
Losers that's his word. What a loser you're going up here?
And then say, Adam the police. No cuz the police
was watching when he was talking. No, you're the snitch.
You're tending on yourself. Yeah, so he ain't always the
blame for his job is to ask questions. You feel me?
And then but the thing is, it seems like that
platform promotes violence when that's the only way the real
(34:19):
views come.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You're right, but to be devil's advocate, that's the only
way we're gonna watch its violin and.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Bas Yeah, but we got people laughing at us now,
and the only one that's still standing will because you
feel me or then two got out the way like
a d T rail, then me, you feel you don't
want to bring up trail. I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Little smacky man. Oh smaggy man, back on what we have.
We'll smack ever get back on fig bars.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I hope, I hope because they're good friends. You're not
supposed to let this internet shit fuck you up. I
see them telling each other business.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I found out they weren't good friends. When you look,
it seems like they just open to be in a situation.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Nah, that's still cut friends. It was their friends. You
could tell by chemistry. You feel me like, by just
being there, that's their friend. They got good vibes and
they they should go together.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
She was working for each other, and it's like Smack
kind of I guess he's saying like he thinks he
better than me.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
When you say like that, like so they treated I
would say he feels like they treated him like that
because they had everything they was putting him on. He
would work for damn near free. I'm guessing you know,
and he like, man, you shouldn't know me the whole time.
You know, you and your girl y'all got money. You know,
talk bad, say he's slow this that. But Snack, I mean,
Smack always also had did make them be like get
(35:54):
your shirt together. But now they putting each other business
out of their friends their friends. Word is we're gonna
have to you know, friends, brothers, all that ship, all
that don't be meaning nothing no more. That's what I wanted.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, now we're agreeing because that ain't They wasn't friends
for real, because he's.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
If you're going on the internet about it. I couldn't
wait to get at each other. You I could. I
think it could have been multiple times they could have
got at each other.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It was working, everything was working. Soon as something like
it ain't going it's finna be over. It's like your girlfriend,
like when your girl get into it, like now she's finish,
say the wow.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
This Now she's on the internet telling your business. Yeah,
now you can't come back. It was never really my
dog for real. And every time somebody do that, I
don't respect him, Like why were you with that person?
If they if they all there, why were you with him? Yeah?
But you can't could you justify that though? What? Because
that don't mean they don't love you. I mean they
they hugs. I don't believe whose love you love you? Man?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I know what love is until until until that that
love ain't no such things. You can't love somebody until
your love ain't no, until the love love is just love.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I could stop loving loving somebody you didn't love them,
d w you liked the poor wild I loved him
at the time. No, were gonna we don't disagree on there. Okay,
we don't disagree on there. Okay, all right? Nick? Did
you really love do want? I want to go there
that you really love him? Yeah? I stopped with them
for real because I loved him so much.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, guess what I think The case you talking about
is a person that you still love right today.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You just can't for them.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Maybe you're right, Oh oh oh oh, you wish you
could turn this off because you're real.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I can't. No, I can't turn me off, but I
could cut it off. Yes, you know what I'm saying.
I can stay away from you because I love you
and I know I hurt you. It'll get to the
point you'll make me hurt you. Nah, But I gotta,
like I said, I gotta cut throat side to where
if nowadays, if it across me, I wouldn't mind. I
wouldn't mind when something happened. I wouldn't be sad if
something happened because two three, I like, I don't hate you,
(38:01):
but I don't give a about you no more, don't
love you. It don't hurt me. I didn't seen any
die that I but he went against the grain, and
I don't. I don't give a what comes you get
what's coming to you.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I kind of understand what you're saying. You love your
actions when your actions show another way. Now, like, damn,
I did love you, but your actions proved to be something.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that.
I can see that. I can see that. I can
see that.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Well, let's go back with after the all of the
did you get did you land on Wilder? Now?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Did you do that after the No Jumper before? Oh? No,
I was booming already before No Jumper. I was on
wild enough for seasons, like probably three seasons before No
Jumper or fourth seasons, So I was already good, like,
but I just wasn't rapping at the time. So in
the free time between the next wild and now, I
just wanted to keep my face relevant.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Now wild than that man, shout out to Nick Cannon?
How did you meet Nick Cannon?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Through my bro yu come shout out Yukon. Yukon was
one of the first people from Incredible. They made it
up with each other type, so when he heard me rap,
he was in amazement. He sent it to my manager Chuck,
who was also one of the managers that Incredible, and
he showed Nick while they was on the flight. They say,
get that over here, and then that's what happened. I
(39:26):
met Nick. He wasn't really doing music at the time,
but he said he wanted to do something for me
until that time. He was like, I'm gonna put you
on Wilding Out. Matter of fact, I'm gonna make up
a game for you because I don't want people to
think you're a joke. I know you're against it, boy,
it's all I was thinking, like, where do you fit
in and out?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
And I was thinking that too him. I'm like, the
must know I'm funny too, cuz I was down to
do all this.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
But I understood when he made the game for me,
cause it's like people that we see as comedians, like
even DC. He had metality, but people don't want to
hear him sing sometime a rap because they won't even
be funny. Yeah, he's very feeling, So he got to
go through that battle. So that's what Nick didn't want
to do to me. He didn't want to see me
(40:11):
and want to be funny. You feel me look at
me now like you didn't that never laugh, You didn't
that you know, DC mail laugh or whatever. So my
whole thing was to be still you never you know,
fake tough type, not fake, not fake you know, just
I'm really who laughed? Yeah, you feel me. I ain't
(40:33):
gotta be tough art, Yeah, I ain't gotta be tough.
That's why they called me the weakest link because I
always laugh.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, I think we're done cover a lot, man, but
before we get out of it, I do want to
ask you, like, what's the next because you know I've
been ever since you came, I've been linking up with
your studio to dead Hopie, So I know you got
big stuff going. But just let the people know, you
know what I'm saying, what's going on with?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
What's next? Man? Though, I'm planning by the end of
the month to draw my new tape called Blue Flame.
All Heat you know, made most of the tracks right
here with my name Lottie. Y'all tap in with cuz
y'all want some heat. And then got a plane. Shout
out my name. Echo you know who be doing all
e B kJ bow beats, shout out my name? Load
of great. So I've just been going to work and
(41:19):
then I got a movie I'm about to do with
my name. Jock Quavis Coleman. You know, one of the
best book writers. Out shout out my boy. Later on
down the line show this year. So we're gonna get
it cracking cut you said the book writer. What else
Jocq Quavis Coleman, Ashally and Jock Quavers Coleman, they do, uh,
they make urban books like some of the best books ever.
(41:40):
They helped me through my jail scenes. I got out,
said I was gonna meet them, and we're here. You
feel me. That's my dog, one of my main dogs.
Out here go to cut house chilling and he just
plot on the next move. He got a movie out
right now, I would say, prime called Everything is Both.
Y'all go check that out. That's what's up right there, man,
(42:00):
shout out my dog. Shout out Texas. I'm out here too. Yeah.
So you whoever you.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Bumped, you know, messed with I know you, uh you
know of course, Johnny damn d you know you got.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Mister murder being yeah most death. Sure you already know
kept on man. You know Sugar straight from for for word.
You know it's traded. You know how we rocking cut
besides that my cartel both to that's my dog. You
know what I'm saying, Sauce Walker, that's my dog. You
know how we rocking cut? Okay, okay, you uh rocking
(42:38):
with guys in Houston and everything. Yeah, factual, I ain't
even made it to Houston.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Okay, because I know you was in the DU. You
know you told me some you know, situations about the D.
I don't want to break it up on it too much.
You know that guys thought they was thought they was.
He was letting you know, a uh and these guys shout.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Out to the D.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I'm just I'll just keep a gangster everywhere I go,
and I move with gangstert everywhere I go. You know
what I'm saying, ain't nothing sweet?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, real recognize real man. That's what's up in that
blue fling. I want to go back to that again. Man,
that man I thought when Sugar is the one big
shot out Shugar, he the one told me about you,
and so I which I already knew you knew about
you through the internet when I went and looked up
your looked up the music and found out you were
(43:26):
really that on that mic. Man, they need to go
check you out. Man, this dude here. Man, you know,
I think I put them up against anybody out there. Man,
Ain't nobody man, you like the voice of the West Coast,
even though you're in Texas.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Man, ain't nobody messing with you on that mic? Like
I finna see, I'm applying this pressure. I'm glad I
found this. I'm making it. I mean, it's every other
day for show. Nothing in that work. And I'm actually,
you know, working now instead of just going in the
studio and make a couple of tracks, go outside and
turning up. So you know, as we go on, I'm
gonna put my put my all in this shit because
(44:01):
one thing I learned, always give up before they put
they all in something. Be like I'll try. It ain't work,
it ain't you ain't never put you all into it.
Name one thing you really put your all into, like everything,
if you if you guys, if you can name that,
if you can name that, and you ain't successful, because
(44:24):
then I'll shut the f up. But I don't know
one person I ever met who put everything into it
because and didn't make it. It's impossible. That's real. Literally,
it's real.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
The universe have to go accordingly. If you do that,
the universe have to act with it.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Literally, it's impossible. If you gotta stop certain things, if
you gotta give your off, you gotta give your last dollar,
if you gotta some time not not see your family,
sorry to say, if you gotta sometime not you gotta
give up certain things, because that's what you call sacrifice,
because later on they really don't see you, feel me,
(45:00):
they gonna see if that's what you're aiming forkuse and
that's my word. You gotta give up something this year.
This year, I give my own. Okay, Yeah, I keep
you saying that in a lot in your wrap, like
you taking this wrap. I moved away from the hood.
I'm not halfway. I'm not my foot, ain't just gang
banging every day, ain't coming to the studio. I'm away
from that. I clear my head, I got my family,
(45:21):
took certain sacrifices because I'm not where I wanna be.
But I'm gonna be there and I can see my
vision clear is a bit man. You heard it right here.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Man, real tune TV man, I'm Louis Sacha, DW Flane.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
We out of here. Man going steik. We'll tone this.
The real money in the room.
Hey, real Tone, this the real money in the room.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I came with one and one of my big homies,
big fave, and you could feel it. You could just
feel it in the air because that day they didn't
let us get no blicks in. They didn't get us,
they didn't let us get no blicks in. So you
had to either be ahead of time and have you're
a little knife or you feel me like that. But
(00:25):
Draco wasn't thinking that day, you know, because he ended
up getting pushed up on.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hey real Tone, this Real money. The Welcome to Real
Tune TV podcast hosted by Me Louis Sachi.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Today we got a very very special guest. Yeah, boy
d W Flame all the way from the East side
of the Long Beach. Hold On, man, you gotta let
me say you gotta let me say your name.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Man, hold on and my boy had d W Flame Man,
LBC spied, it's what's up, d.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
W what's up? Money, Louis, We're going still you on
their dead homies. That's gonna start from the top. Man. Uh,
let us know where you're from again and tell us
you know about all that I'm from. I'm from the
East side Long Beach. Sinko boys. You know, twenty first Street,
the worst street, you hear me?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So that Long Beach. That's what Snoop dog We know,
everybody know, that's what Snoop from. What side was Snoop from?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Snoop from the east side. I'm from the east side. Okay,
both y'all east side boys, that's the worst side, the
best side. Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's what's up. How
was it growing up there? When you know, when you
were young, it was what I would call a beautiful struggle.
Beautiful struggle. Elaborate on that just being in Loan Beach,
(01:43):
like I would say, because it was a big thing
with with race, it was a big thing with gang banging,
and there was a big thing just trying to survive,
you feel me. And then besides Snoop Dogg if you
ain't know him personally, and like dog and we ain't
really know nobody, We ain't see nobody make it out,
(02:04):
so all we knew was maybe basketball, maybe football, because
and gang banging. You feel me, So, Nate Dogg, I
didn't even know. I didn't even think about that. How
did y'all take that? Nate dog Oh yeah, that Nate
Dogg was the first person who ever could seen this
gangster in a way like that. You never heard nobody
(02:25):
singing though what better laylo. Yeah, you never heard noh
like that until Nate Dogg came came. And that's our sound,
that gangster gang banging music that East Siders come out,
you feel me, that all type of all that you
hear and Snoop doing trading and them did, and that
(02:48):
was our sound when we was younger, like that's all
we heard. So we grew up to that what we
call it crib hop. Oh Peter legend man, it was
Wrange also from Yeah Warrange, Shout out that's one of
oh ge man. Shout out one G. That's one who
do help the youth. You feel me and do what
he can you dog.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I met him, he was real cool. I met him
in Vegas one time. Shout out to Warren G.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Definitely we got yeah, shout out one uh for sure,
that's one of my dogs right there. He'd help if
when I was younger and I ain't even had no
shows really booked, cause with he would put me on
his shows, I mean, open up big arenas and all
types of even with my last show I deal with Warren.
(03:35):
My name Draco the Ruler got killed. That was a show. Yeah,
we did a show. I think it was summertime and
or a day in La or something like that. I
came with Warren and one of my big homies, big fave,
and you could feel it. You could just feel it
in the air because that day they didn't let us
(03:55):
get no blicks in. They didn't get us. They didn't
let us get no blicks in. So you had to
either be ahead of time and have your little knife
or you feel me like that. But Draco wasn't thinking
that day, you know, because he ended up getting pushed
up on mine.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Draco just got out. He beat two life sentences and
he beat the death penalty, and it ain't like him,
you feel me from certain sides, and they had they beef,
so Draco wasn't no neither. So when they ended up
running up on Draco, Draco wasn't expecting to have a
(04:31):
knife on me. You know. He just know tomorrow on
the internet if he ran you might be like Draco,
bitch mine you. Draco is like the hortdest in La
at the time, so he wasn't going and he was,
and he was fresh out of jail, so he wasn't
going he up there, but some of his bros, not
all of them, but some of them skateboarders, you know,
(04:52):
lean shippers, them got chops for show. But that day
they went up again against a gang and who wasn't
playing either? Who used to that, used to squabbling, used
to who really owned that? You feel me? So it
went hard and when these were cribs. Also, Draco was
from stink To so that was really his own little squad.
(05:15):
But he with the cribs for the most part and
Inglewood the like, he had a little beef with Inglewood.
So that's a lot of blood. You feel me, basically, yeah,
for sure. So it just was what it was. It
was that time. You feel me so, and I can
(05:36):
say that thing properly protect the money because they let
him fight. You feel me? My brothers in them, like
you know, I can't say what I would what I
would have done if it wasn't me, But I've been
there in those situations and my brothers would have been like,
grabbed me by my shirt because I'm always ready to
(05:58):
step in front. They're protecting the bag, like get so
weird act you feel me. So while certain run there
and certainly trying to help Draco, it just couldn't you
feel me. If a lot of those front line with him,
they would have seen that with the you feel me,
pay attention they go because they go you feel me.
(06:18):
But they went high and went.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I guess I'm a little lame because in my mind,
when you got no guns, I'm thinking that's like a
metal detector or something.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So it's assuming no knives. Also, but certain ones of
us rode in and tour buses or uh uh, sprinter
you feel me? So they let the super superstars come
through in the sprinter, but they still a check us
as we walked through. Like it's always ways to get
(06:46):
Lewis you feel me. We get in the in the
pend Okay, that sounds like we get in jail.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
So you think we can't get past a little metal detector,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, we're not gonna talk about the way they get
it in jail. It's all type of ways to get
it in. Sometimes they Texas don't work.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, let's talk about a game, Draco ther r I P.
Let's talk about a and then it's funny to go
back to you saying, if he would have like just
got away instead of standing his ground, he would be alive.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And it's this guy's a deep choice right there. If
he would have tucked his pride and got out the way,
he would have probably been here today. It was a
little hole that we always went by that you could
squeeze through. That certainly did squeeze through. That he probably
could have squeezed through. But he wouldn't even he didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Then again, he don't know that the dude got the thing.
That's that's another that would have been another that would
have been a good viral moment for him if he
would have got beat up.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Whatever. You know the truth about cub so, but I
can't say it's always the smartest decision. You feel me.
But let me tell you one thing about realness. Me
in that situation, if I would have ran and slipped
through the gate without my brother's grabbing me telling me
later on it ate me up. You ain't gonna be
look in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
I hate that, And then I would have to think
about you over and over.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
That's that's a weak thing for me. So I know,
as any real men, even when you let it know
before if you let it get a pass and he
look he said something you let it go. You looky
thinking about that because now he's telling people to bitch.
Even if you wouldn't it just eat at you. I
can't wait to see you. I'm thinking about you. You
(08:34):
don't want that feeling. Neither make you feel like less
of a men or look forward to seeing cousin again
to get you. And that's a downfall too.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Let's talk about the gang culture and how you ended
up becoming a crip and longbeat east Side.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I said, I mean it was in my face, being
in my face my day that a crib. My whole
family cribs for sure. Like so it's just cripping was
cool when we was younger. They pull up big stadans
and you know money, they off drugs, whatever. But they
look at so fly, they looking like they you know,
(09:16):
that's what you want to be. They getting the hose.
They got a bank roll. That's what we want a
bank roll. You feel me older that I knew from
different hoods from grapes shut out. Some of the grapes
that know me from back then used to pull out
they wid money, shoot it to me. That's something that
I used to look up to. We ain't have that,
you feel me, So that's how I go.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I guess I got a different aspect because I'm thinking
gang banging is very violent. It's very violent, and it's
it's they din't shoot it out, said everybody active. So
when did they get a chance to raise a DW
flying U chat? How do they get a chance to
raise kids?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Oh? No, were talking about were talking about barbecues, We
talking about family, We talking about coming together, were talking
about meetings, were talking to about you know, good vis
being at the parks, going to clubs together, brotherhood like
where we all saying it sounds like more structure than
I had, and I wouldn't game bang. I mean, you know,
at first it was a community revolution in progress. Oh
(10:14):
so like no matter what I see the beauty in it,
you feel me. But what never knew was just like
the Italians, this ain't real without no money. So that's
where it becomes bullshit where we want to shore on
each other and not have it going around. We ain't
giving them jobs. We ain't got this even you know,
(10:36):
just the youngs on homies, it stopped. Stop giving them work,
You feel me? They stop telling us something good. You
ain't even got to give us nothing to be a OG,
but good advice too, Tell me go to school. We
used to have that. We used to have OG's that
be like, get up out of here, take your way
to school. You feel me? Once they left, it was us,
(10:56):
so my hood, the babies, and we low key we
went against everything mine, you and loan beach, crips, all cribs.
We start wearing red just because you feel me, because
we could do what we want to. Y'all was trying
to piss o gs. Yeah, and we bro you don't
even know after school even just wearing like skinny jeans
(11:18):
and like that wasn't cool. After school. They used to
get on our app but we became so thick and
became so on that, you know, we ended up beefing
with some of our OG's who wasn't there, Like when
they come home, you can't tell us name if you
ain't give us nothing, and you wasn't there with us
this crib and we pushed the line, you know what
I'm saying. So we ended up we ended up getting
(11:40):
all along after years on years, you feel me, because
they knew it was a new era too, and we
in Loan Beach. You ain't gonna mistake me for no blood.
But they knew the babies we didn't. That might push
through here with the red is the Indian chief. See
the Indian Chief red Franklin gloves. You feel me might
have red dye hair? Were coming through that different putting
(12:03):
on everything? Where are you from? Babies? You either you
wit it or you not. And that was up too,
because we didn't put on so many and that was
our downfall too.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Putt putting on. Yeah, it wasn't even be for some
wanted numbers. Yeah, it was just us or nothing, you
feel so, But it was all brothers. We would link up.
If you couldn't make it to the means, we have
seen somebody come get you.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
So what's the biggest difference, if you had to say so,
between lb C and the l A culture us in
Loan Beach, we we always got a little thing going
on with LA. But it really ain't nothing because really
we went in the same but we kind of to
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first start wearing switching up our swag wear.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
The skinny jeans, you know, little dye hair or scale.
We was in Long Beach. We had a lot of
skate parks, so we knew how to skateboard or type
of be like, oh this is this or that. But
when we hit that, hold on, let me get this
that y'all skate. Y'all shoot, do y'all shoot.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
A hand skate? Let me I'm gonna right now with that.
I'm already give folk. Listen, you two why we skateboard up?
Thinking Lil Wayne tripping like he don't want to be
a gainster no more so you can still be a
gangster and skate.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, you got a lot of gangsters is talented. Let's
get that. Some of the most talented. The first, the
first Jordan might be in jail, you hear me. But
besides that, the first, the first, Terry Kennedy t K,
the skater used to be with for real, he from
my hood. He's a yeah, he's from my hood for babies.
(13:53):
T K Yeah, used to go out with Angela's in. Yeah.
But I'm just still trying to When do y'all have
do he really inspired? When do y'all have time to skate? Like?
Where do y'all bang? Like as kids everywhere down the street.
We it got so deep the pop their skateboard it
be a gun at theout and hold on.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It must be very peaceful and Long Beach because if
everybody crips, you have no rivals, right, Oh, y'all you.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Would think that, right, That's what I'm saying. Sad it like,
it's we pretty good. Everybody cris what's up? What's up?
That's why I preach so stupid. You feel me at
the end of the day. But it's always a you know,
an ego thing. But one thing when I grew up
was it was a big race war. You feel me.
We said that earlier. I didn't. I assume you was
(14:41):
talking about blacks and browns, right, right. White people ain't
got to do with this, no, because white people was
just white people like in Long Beach us too, Like
between the difference between Long Beach and l A. If
you're talking about l A l A now holly Wood,
Long Beach is beautiful, got beaches, We got singing.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Like when you go down, you think people disrespect y'all
cripping because y'all is so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Uh, that'd be the stupidest thing to do. That's like
disrespecting you know. When you as a kid and we
used to make front of the smart kids.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's dumb as a painted like nerd I was, I
was one of the smart kids.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
I'm saying, wasn't that so stupid? Though? For us to
make fun of it for being smart? That's something. So
why would you, Yeah, nerd, he's oh that nerd, you stupid.
I think they cool because they don't do their work
like so in Loan Beach, that's what we always had.
Like I'm like, this is slow if they think because
(15:44):
when you go past our central area you could go
to the beach, we got nice that it ain't that's
how you.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
Die, Okay, But what I'm saying, if you got beach,
you got all this nice stuff, your vibrations seemed like
they would be high.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So on that side, no beach, no vibration, right, I
wouldn't I just assume they would be more ruthless than you,
uh half guys, the guys with something that's like that's
like Dallas and forward forward to me, for we're gonna
be more up in the head because we ain't got
nothing in Dallas.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
They got a little more opportunity.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So I wouldn't expect a Dallas person to be as
lost as a foreword.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I mean we had a beach to go to, we
had a move there, we got like a sight to see.
But we ain't have nothing that you ain't that you
ain't have like we had the county building, we got,
eb tea we got. We ain't got no opportunity. Ain't
nothing given to us that was built downtown. That's more
(16:47):
for the tourists.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
If we go down there, you quick to get put
in the patty the patty wagon. So I'm letting the beach.
I'm really letting the beach station sweet because it's on
the beach.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
That's right, like certain place as you go to you
thinking this week because we because we got a few,
ain't nobody died on that beach? What that now? Now?
Now now you got me now, so you could die
on that same beach.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay, you could die on the beach. That's why we
can't go to the beach. And it ain't it's see
in my mind the beaches. But if you can die there,
oh man, it's long beach.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
So it's us like and then imagine this all the
young we go down to the beach, We take the
bitches to the beach because we ain't got no money,
you feel me, But you could go to the beach
and have a good time, hell of a day. And
then the ops thinking that too.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But stop what ops cryp crypt crips. Okay, So I'm
from insane, insane. It's damn near the biggest game in
Long Beach. Then it's twenties where Snoop from. That's another
big game in Long Beach. That's our main rivals. You
feel me, even some of my cousins all that you
feel me.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
So we gonna see each other down there, and then
the other gangs from the West side, from the North
side gonna come down there.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
When we developed our friendship, I did not know you
were rivals with uh Snoop.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
I thought you and Snoopy. Let's get this right, I
ain't a rival with Snoop. Snoop still a o G. Right.
It's to the point like if you go against Snoop,
you wear because he did so much. He a real
Long Beach. Now he's past just a game. His one
of his main bodyguards is my big um Blue from
the hood. So back in the back of the blue
(18:26):
where the Blue is from, he from insane.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Same yeah, he so insane protects twenty basically that's what
that's y'all need to cut it out, do y'all need
to let it go. It's over.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's over now, insane protecting the twiny now that we together,
now that's our OG's right had a theme because we
put trades twenties deuces and rolling called deuces and trades
the old fashioned way. That's the older they used to
all kick it played Domino's here, you know. And then
(18:57):
it always comes a time where you know, somebody biggerness,
I'm by boom. Once one of our homies get killed,
now you know, the war starts. That's just how it go,
you feel me. Even with my cousins, I got cousins.
We didn't got any riots. And my cousin pushed in
here like it's just twenties, and I look at him,
Oh what's up, coach? You look at me like I'm
(19:18):
staying with about foting my hommies. This hoummies push in
by fuck, Oh, it's that time. What about your mama?
He's mama, ain'ty now? Y'all forgot your cousins. We don't
got to fuck all that sometime, though you get what
I'm saying, it don't make sense but at the moment
it don't make sense. But you gotta respect when it's
on that. But if you my cousin, and we about
to all get into a ride, we at the bowling
(19:40):
alley and you go this way, I go that way.
You feel me, just stay on my way. We've been
a squarel but you just go. Don't let me. Don't
be cause don't.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, we ain't gonna fight each other, but we're fighting.
I'm fighting your friends and you're fighting my friend.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Even when I go to jail and running there and
they're like, hey, ain't you d w oh, yeah, you
got faith in here. My cousin in there too, my
cousin the week. That was funny.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You get to jail, You get to jail. You just
got to jail. As soon as you walk in here. Hey,
ain't you you?
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Yes, Okay, they're waiting on you right there. Yeah, you
got pucks in there. Four And I'm gonna take my
shirt off and foat that up. And this from the
previous time you were in here, or some happen every time,
every time, it doesn't matter. Every time. When I walk
in this bit, if I see him, he see me,
we know what time it is. And I gotta go
(20:34):
in there in that one. I got the option to
go in that one or this one. But if you
go in there when use a hoe, I'm a hoe
because I ain't going there. I'm coming in there. Whether
it's two or fifteen of them, I'm coming in there.
But as a g they gonna respect you when you
get down once twice and be like, look, we're gonna
let you breathe for a while, or might let it
(20:56):
go black man, but we need that. Still you still
be on the internet missing us saying you kill WHOOPI
whooping and WOOTI whoop.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Where's four Extra from? I want to throw that in
so extra from foties. That's l a okay, what's your
relationship with four Extra?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It ain't too much of a relationship, but we just
need to hear about each other like like that. For
the most part, we just talked a little bit. But
uh for extracy for fodies, he a crip and he
doing this thing on here. I support it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, that's really big there because a lot of people,
you know, y'all have a lot of coming. We'll bring
that up later. The one thing y'all got in coming. Yeah, yeah,
hot topics. Uh, brick baby, what about that relationship?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I ain't got too much of a relationship with cuse
I tried it. It didn't work, you know what I'm saying.
Or what's the best on cut free cut here in
jail free?
Speaker 1 (21:51):
So okay, So when you said it didn't work, it
was it was it about the the viral moment that
that happened.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Was that the thing that broke it up. Yeah, for
the most part was build a new thing for the
because you know, I'm moving. He rolling base sill building
a new thing for the black community, and he just
ain't know how to. He didn't know what side pig,
you know what I'm saying. Like when it came to
who was really his friends, he kind of got tricked
out of his position. So and that's what happened. He
(22:19):
let people think, oh, d w this you looking like
a woo wool and really me and him sitting back chilling,
him laughing. You know what I'm saying, He made a
mistake online. I made a mistake online gainst just like
in jail, I might ask you for the wrong thing
that dis your hood, but I'm not thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I was watching it. I loved how y'all had. I
loved how he but I know that everybody was keysing
people back and.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Everybody was calling him. It just was too much. The pressure.
You you find out who you is when you under pressure.
He's the big blow up when he walked in there. Yeah,
and he ain't got to do that. All he got
to do is look, bro, he said whatever men couz hollered.
Even if we gotta do whatever just to make it cool,
that's what it is. And I'm gonna stick by because
I know he thorough because he know that. You know
(23:03):
what I'm saying. We had too many talks, had kids
around kids, So if I was trying to disrespect you,
I would.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Like, Well, when he came back in there, he made
it or or evident that y'all were extra close, like
that's my boy.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Like why y'all trying to turn me in? Dw A
getst each other. Yeah, and we just became close on
that podcast, like before that, that wasn't my boy. So
even sometime when he said all the brothers, I wasn't
with it too much. But if we're building something, okay,
you feel me. But if you leave in the podcast
saying oh I disrespected him too in his face, lying
(23:38):
and then coming to me like you just let it go.
It was weird, you feel me like I could see
that you're not built for this, like I told my homies,
because some of my homies asked me, why even apologize
about it, because you know it is what it is.
But I'm like, that's my boy.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And it seemed like it's hard to be to continue
to be a real member and to do to be
a businessman because it's always getting away.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
It seems like, yeah, so you but you can say that.
But I got to say, Snoop, Snoop, I would say
the biggest artists in them in the world, not the best,
but the biggest.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
But can I tell you what I really believe what
I'm gonna tell what I really don't believe. I don't
believe Snoop is cripping. I think Snoop is if there's
an active crippling like people say I'm active. I don't
think Snoop has been active since he's been a teenager.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
No, he's not a gang banger, but he's just a member. Okay,
that's what I'm saying. This need to banging a member,
right right? So, But The thing is, Snoop then went
through a lot of politics. So Snoop went through a
lot of politics where he had to please certain people
or had to do certain things because certainly feel he
oweded the streets for saying it there, or because you know,
(24:54):
he's banging the gang and he ain't showing up when
they want him to or putting them on. So he's
that he ain't got none to prove now. He was
soa He went through everything that I'm even looking forward
to going through, you feel me? So Snoop, No, he
can't do everything, but he a big dog at this point.
So it ain't no beef like Snoop from twenties. That's cool,
like my cousin's from twenties. But it don't really matter.
(25:17):
I'm to the point where it's little you feel me.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Back to the brick baby situa, How did you react
to the big arrest, with the big U situation all that.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
What did you think about that?
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I thought, I'm glad I wasn't on there talking about
No he's supposed to be talking about.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Everybody they got It was from Lao, right, yeah, yeah,
it was from la For the most part. A couple
of my people. Even my sister was on there too
that she just served food and cooking, but they got
her wrapped up in there. But yeah, I just was
like a couple of them was on No Jumper You
Feel Me, and I just like, I'm glad it wasn't
(25:59):
me who talked about self and no like that because
the police was watching everything still live mm hmm my.
So I kind of I kind of if if there
was any way for me to get in the middle
of it, our dogedy, Well, I thank God for that. Yeah,
(26:19):
I went on No Jumper and I got my own
podcast out of it that was positive You Feel Me?
And then I brought Nick Cannon on there, and I
brought I brought who I bring Nick Canner, I brought
my do USC, I brought, I brought a couple of
different and just trying to promote them and their business
and give people a positive way, a positive vibe. You
(26:39):
feel Me?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And you were real asset on there. Yeah, factual you
bring up you bringing up I wanted to go there.
Yet we're gonna wait on Nick Ken, We're gonna wait
on that now. But let me ask you about this,
since we had the No Jumpers, uh that.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
That by the viral moments.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
The other viral moment with the six old having up
clapping in your face.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Thing, yeah six out seven, shout out six or seven here,
all of my mom got on my mom. He got
a d w thing. That's how I knew. That's how
I knew you was grown when you were grewing this game.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Cause, man, when you sit down with him and didn't
take it serious, and I was.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Like, okay, but I think he's funny. I think he
had character.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man, I think he may be number two besides Gee,
I think he the funniest him. But yeah, I respect
him to just keep doing your thing, man, shout out
six out seven.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Non with all the clapping.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
The situation, that was just the beginning, But like break
that down, how you say like you used to?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
You know, he said he was Saint Louis and all that.
Yeah he was. He was playing, but I'll be with
it for Saint Louis. So I kind of got that
he was playing, but I didn't. I was still fresh
at no Jumper, so I didn't want to. I didn't
want to will cousin and already get put off the
platform and make it look like I'm a I have
to go to jail, lose your job all in one
one lick what you say. You said, I'm big, so
(28:06):
no matter what what I do, like, I'm bullying you
big old time.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
I'm the coolest one. Everybody else playing hard, but I'm glad.
I want you to know that you said it don't
matter because what's side.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yes, where I'm from, it don't matter what size you
is because I haven't seen the biggest, for I haven't
seen the little the smaller be giants before. What did
you say about you said?
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Somebody they real because you know they said no matter
what you said, but I will shoot you, like for real.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I got a bro. I got one of my bros,
uh done and be like, I do this to you,
and he'd be like, he probably will. But you know
that's all I was saying about you.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
You're the big You're the I will Damn they don't
get that, but you're definitely getting that. Yes, but I
will shoot you, see, like that's the only defense, not
even in shoot you.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
I'm just way more. I'm way more grimier than you.
You feel me because a lot of big nigs, a
lot of names be soft.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Okay, d w Let's bring up a career moves, the
No Jumper thing? Did you get fired from No Jumper?
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Like? What happened with that situation? In a way, I
would say, not just me. They had to do away
with a lot of people because of the funds, and
Adam had like going on behind the scenes getting sued
like that, and because it was too much, We had
too much, you know what I'm saying, Like I think
(29:30):
we had kind of got into it a little bit
before that. But because he was playing with me, like
he played with breaking them a little bit. He was trying,
he said, d w because I said down, I don't
really come to their parties. He said, you be thinking,
He said, you got bad energy because you be thinking.
We got to invite you in order for you to come.
(29:52):
But this is just Adam, my white boy talking how
you talk to them. He basically saying, I think I'm
too good. But mind you, I don't go to I
don't go to freaky parties like you need to go.
You need to go to parties, bitch, just everybody, and
I don't have to go to that. You feel me
to each his own feels. But when he said that,
(30:12):
I just bounced up because I didn't want to actually
really scare cuse or reach across the table on becuz
because my brothers wasn't there. Usually my brothers be like,
d w you faded and I was faded that day.
They always act like I'm faded and I be tripping
so butaded so, but I wasn't. I wasn't tripping. I
(30:34):
don't really play around too much with that word, and
I don't play around with them with it, you feel me,
So I just I give what I can accept, and
I can't accept that because I don't give out.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
That you was just at the wrong podcast. Everything he
plays with wag like everybody gonna get it, but you
gotta be, you gotta be. It's you gotta be. It's
certainly too able to do that. Like, you know, it's
certain people who successful who could play like that all
the way from white dudes like Will Ferrell and you know,
I got brothers in the hood that be playing with
(31:04):
each other on little wirds.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
That's just not really my geting. And even though Adam cool,
we cool talk to kids and shit. So I ain't
gonna really just flex him cause I know he's playing.
But we in front of the world, and I keep
myseluf trill, they waiting for any you know who playing.
I know Adam plan like, I know that's how he played.
(31:30):
I know that. I know he didn't mean dw ur
a bitch to me? To me what he to me?
You know how you see what you can get out
of it. I think he was you know, he knew you,
and so he that.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Was his introduction to see if he can play with you,
and you rejected.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
It, and I think he knew that. I you know,
I'm not not open to just laughing and joking and
playing with my knicks because I do that. But that
just wasn't one of them things. So I bounced up
and I hollered at him after the podcast about it.
On a serious note. He apologized, I'll let him know
like the regular meat would have reached over to the
table slapt out you you feel me, But you know
(32:10):
I know you ain't mean that. I know what type
of person you is. I'm glad you apologizing whatever, whatever,
but i'mly saying like, just don't do that with me now.
I guess I want to be a little missed.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I was gonna say I don't want to be missing,
but you just said Adam was getting going through lawsuits
and all that.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Is there anything that the public? Is there any public information?
Is that? I'll just I mean, for the most part,
he just put out. He put out the information. So
it ain't nothing. I'm saying that it can't be said.
I never say that. I ain't already said, okay, give
it to me. So I don't know. Supposedly somebody who
being some shit happened to him at No Jumper. And
(32:49):
I'm not talking about Dejon, I guess a white boy
or something. They end up suing Adam for some shit
that happened to him at No Jumper. And this supposedly
took a told on his pockets. Oh they got that
money that I think. So that's why Adam was to
look up which one of his white guests did that.
That's why he was on the internet saying and that's
(33:11):
why he had cut down on certain like that. So
they be saying he going broke. That was the beginning
of Yeah. I mean, but you know, I don't know.
I don't count cut pockets. I don't even wish nothing
bad on him because a lot of this that's that
comes to light is other people fought you said with
your own mouth. Adam ain't forced you to do nothing.
(33:33):
Like when people blame laugh for being the police. Y'all
doing the police work. Y'all going on there and say
we slide on him. We're doing that from from Cally
to the Rack, to New York to everywhere. Texas come
and act like the hardest, looks like they're the hardest thing,
smoking and saying who got the most bodies? What losers?
(33:55):
Losers that's his word. What a loser you're going up here?
And then say, Adam the police. No cuz the police
was watching when he was talking. No, you're the snitch.
You're tending on yourself. Yeah, so he ain't always the
blame for his job is to ask questions. You feel me?
And then but the thing is, it seems like that
platform promotes violence when that's the only way the real
(34:19):
views come.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
You're right, but to be devil's advocate, that's the only
way we're gonna watch its violin and.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Bas Yeah, but we got people laughing at us now,
and the only one that's still standing will because you
feel me or then two got out the way like
a d T rail, then me, you feel you don't
want to bring up trail. I have no problem with that.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Little smacky man. Oh smaggy man, back on what we have.
We'll smack ever get back on fig bars.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I hope, I hope because they're good friends. You're not
supposed to let this internet shit fuck you up. I
see them telling each other business.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
I found out they weren't good friends. When you look,
it seems like they just open to be in a situation.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Nah, that's still cut friends. It was their friends. You
could tell by chemistry. You feel me like, by just
being there, that's their friend. They got good vibes and
they they should go together.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
She was working for each other, and it's like Smack
kind of I guess he's saying like he thinks he
better than me.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
When you say like that, like so they treated I
would say he feels like they treated him like that
because they had everything they was putting him on. He
would work for damn near free. I'm guessing you know,
and he like, man, you shouldn't know me the whole time.
You know, you and your girl y'all got money. You know,
talk bad, say he's slow this that. But Snack, I mean,
Smack always also had did make them be like get
(35:54):
your shirt together. But now they putting each other business
out of their friends their friends. Word is we're gonna
have to you know, friends, brothers, all that ship, all
that don't be meaning nothing no more. That's what I wanted.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, now we're agreeing because that ain't They wasn't friends
for real, because he's.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
If you're going on the internet about it. I couldn't
wait to get at each other. You I could. I
think it could have been multiple times they could have
got at each other.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
It was working, everything was working. Soon as something like
it ain't going it's finna be over. It's like your girlfriend,
like when your girl get into it, like now she's finish,
say the wow.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
This Now she's on the internet telling your business. Yeah,
now you can't come back. It was never really my
dog for real. And every time somebody do that, I
don't respect him, Like why were you with that person?
If they if they all there, why were you with him? Yeah?
But you can't could you justify that though? What? Because
that don't mean they don't love you. I mean they
they hugs. I don't believe whose love you love you? Man?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I know what love is until until until that that
love ain't no such things. You can't love somebody until
your love ain't no, until the love love is just love.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
I could stop loving loving somebody you didn't love them,
d w you liked the poor wild I loved him
at the time. No, were gonna we don't disagree on there. Okay,
we don't disagree on there. Okay, all right? Nick? Did
you really love do want? I want to go there
that you really love him? Yeah? I stopped with them
for real because I loved him so much.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Well, guess what I think The case you talking about
is a person that you still love right today.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
You just can't for them.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Maybe you're right, Oh oh oh oh, you wish you
could turn this off because you're real.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
I can't. No, I can't turn me off, but I
could cut it off. Yes, you know what I'm saying.
I can stay away from you because I love you
and I know I hurt you. It'll get to the
point you'll make me hurt you. Nah, But I gotta,
like I said, I gotta cut throat side to where
if nowadays, if it across me, I wouldn't mind. I
wouldn't mind when something happened. I wouldn't be sad if
something happened because two three, I like, I don't hate you,
(38:01):
but I don't give a about you no more, don't
love you. It don't hurt me. I didn't seen any
die that I but he went against the grain, and
I don't. I don't give a what comes you get
what's coming to you.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I kind of understand what you're saying. You love your
actions when your actions show another way. Now, like, damn,
I did love you, but your actions proved to be something.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
That I love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that.
I can see that. I can see that. I can
see that.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
Well, let's go back with after the all of the
did you get did you land on Wilder? Now?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Did you do that after the No Jumper before? Oh? No,
I was booming already before No Jumper. I was on
wild enough for seasons, like probably three seasons before No
Jumper or fourth seasons, So I was already good, like,
but I just wasn't rapping at the time. So in
the free time between the next wild and now, I
just wanted to keep my face relevant.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Now wild than that man, shout out to Nick Cannon?
How did you meet Nick Cannon?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Through my bro yu come shout out Yukon. Yukon was
one of the first people from Incredible. They made it
up with each other type, so when he heard me rap,
he was in amazement. He sent it to my manager Chuck,
who was also one of the managers that Incredible, and
he showed Nick while they was on the flight. They say,
get that over here, and then that's what happened. I
(39:26):
met Nick. He wasn't really doing music at the time,
but he said he wanted to do something for me
until that time. He was like, I'm gonna put you
on Wilding Out. Matter of fact, I'm gonna make up
a game for you because I don't want people to
think you're a joke. I know you're against it, boy,
it's all I was thinking, like, where do you fit
in and out?
Speaker 1 (39:43):
And I was thinking that too him. I'm like, the
must know I'm funny too, cuz I was down to
do all this.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
But I understood when he made the game for me,
cause it's like people that we see as comedians, like
even DC. He had metality, but people don't want to
hear him sing sometime a rap because they won't even
be funny. Yeah, he's very feeling, So he got to
go through that battle. So that's what Nick didn't want
to do to me. He didn't want to see me
(40:11):
and want to be funny. You feel me look at
me now like you didn't that never laugh, You didn't
that you know, DC mail laugh or whatever. So my
whole thing was to be still you never you know,
fake tough type, not fake, not fake you know, just
I'm really who laughed? Yeah, you feel me. I ain't
(40:33):
gotta be tough art, Yeah, I ain't gotta be tough.
That's why they called me the weakest link because I
always laugh.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Okay, I think we're done cover a lot, man, but
before we get out of it, I do want to
ask you, like, what's the next because you know I've
been ever since you came, I've been linking up with
your studio to dead Hopie, So I know you got
big stuff going. But just let the people know, you
know what I'm saying, what's going on with?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
What's next? Man? Though, I'm planning by the end of
the month to draw my new tape called Blue Flame.
All Heat you know, made most of the tracks right
here with my name Lottie. Y'all tap in with cuz
y'all want some heat. And then got a plane. Shout
out my name. Echo you know who be doing all
e B kJ bow beats, shout out my name? Load
of great. So I've just been going to work and
(41:19):
then I got a movie I'm about to do with
my name. Jock Quavis Coleman. You know, one of the
best book writers. Out shout out my boy. Later on
down the line show this year. So we're gonna get
it cracking cut you said the book writer. What else
Jocq Quavis Coleman, Ashally and Jock Quavers Coleman, they do, uh,
they make urban books like some of the best books ever.
(41:40):
They helped me through my jail scenes. I got out,
said I was gonna meet them, and we're here. You
feel me. That's my dog, one of my main dogs.
Out here go to cut house chilling and he just
plot on the next move. He got a movie out
right now, I would say, prime called Everything is Both.
Y'all go check that out. That's what's up right there, man,
(42:00):
shout out my dog. Shout out Texas. I'm out here too. Yeah.
So you whoever you.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Bumped, you know, messed with I know you, uh you
know of course, Johnny damn d you know you got.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Mister murder being yeah most death. Sure you already know
kept on man. You know Sugar straight from for for word.
You know it's traded. You know how we rocking cut
besides that my cartel both to that's my dog. You
know what I'm saying, Sauce Walker, that's my dog. You
know how we rocking cut? Okay, okay, you uh rocking
(42:38):
with guys in Houston and everything. Yeah, factual, I ain't
even made it to Houston.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
Okay, because I know you was in the DU. You
know you told me some you know, situations about the D.
I don't want to break it up on it too much.
You know that guys thought they was thought they was.
He was letting you know, a uh and these guys shout.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Out to the D.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
Man.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I'm just I'll just keep a gangster everywhere I go,
and I move with gangstert everywhere I go. You know
what I'm saying, ain't nothing sweet?
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, real recognize real man. That's what's up in that
blue fling. I want to go back to that again. Man,
that man I thought when Sugar is the one big
shot out Shugar, he the one told me about you,
and so I which I already knew you knew about
you through the internet when I went and looked up
your looked up the music and found out you were
(43:26):
really that on that mic. Man, they need to go
check you out. Man, this dude here. Man, you know,
I think I put them up against anybody out there. Man,
Ain't nobody man, you like the voice of the West Coast,
even though you're in Texas.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Man, ain't nobody messing with you on that mic? Like
I finna see, I'm applying this pressure. I'm glad I
found this. I'm making it. I mean, it's every other
day for show. Nothing in that work. And I'm actually,
you know, working now instead of just going in the
studio and make a couple of tracks, go outside and
turning up. So you know, as we go on, I'm
gonna put my put my all in this shit because
(44:01):
one thing I learned, always give up before they put
they all in something. Be like I'll try. It ain't work,
it ain't you ain't never put you all into it.
Name one thing you really put your all into, like everything,
if you if you guys, if you can name that,
if you can name that, and you ain't successful, because
(44:24):
then I'll shut the f up. But I don't know
one person I ever met who put everything into it
because and didn't make it. It's impossible. That's real. Literally,
it's real.
Speaker 1 (44:34):
The universe have to go accordingly. If you do that,
the universe have to act with it.
Speaker 2 (44:39):
Literally, it's impossible. If you gotta stop certain things, if
you gotta give your off, you gotta give your last dollar,
if you gotta some time not not see your family,
sorry to say, if you gotta sometime not you gotta
give up certain things, because that's what you call sacrifice,
because later on they really don't see you, feel me,
(45:00):
they gonna see if that's what you're aiming forkuse and
that's my word. You gotta give up something this year.
This year, I give my own. Okay, Yeah, I keep
you saying that in a lot in your wrap, like
you taking this wrap. I moved away from the hood.
I'm not halfway. I'm not my foot, ain't just gang
banging every day, ain't coming to the studio. I'm away
from that. I clear my head, I got my family,
(45:21):
took certain sacrifices because I'm not where I wanna be.
But I'm gonna be there and I can see my
vision clear is a bit man. You heard it right here.
Speaker 1 (45:31):
Man, real tune TV man, I'm Louis Sacha, DW Flane.
Speaker 2 (45:35):
We out of here. Man going steik. We'll tone this.
The real money in the room.
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