Hoova Land Crip Gang Speaks Out, Banning RealToon From Fort Worth, HCG VS HGC, Gumby, Kunta and more

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now, hoover Land. When you say hoover Land, right,
that's not the gang. That's the community.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
That's the neighbor that's the neighborhood mixed up. But yeah,
that's the neighborhood. It's the land of the deuces. It's
the land of the grooves, the original land, like where
it started.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
That's why it's land, because this is where it started at.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's the real money and overly stood. Overly stood. So
before we pop it off, explain, you know, because I
kind of did. I kind of went on a tangent
trying to explain my side, you know what I mean.
A lot of people have been saying this, that and
the third about real tune, and I ain't never just

(00:49):
spoke on you know, what I was doing out there
or how I came out there. So if you could trayvo,
you just walk us through that night when we met.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yeah, uh shit, I mean everything you say was factual. Shit.
I had a show after a Temptations, you know, doing
my music. I had a show uh afterwards, you know me,
and you start chopping it up. In the midst of
us chopping it up, some violin shit start going on.
Niggas having shootouts and shit. And the call that I

(01:22):
was in. You know, they was heamed up already. You
know what I'm saying. They had some shit going. They
was hemmed up already. So me and you, you know,
chopping it up. Shit. I said, man, can you give
me a ride because I ain't trying, you know, can
you give me a ride? And you was like, you say,
you was man enough. You know, you gave a niggaade
to the hood. And on the way to the hood,

(01:44):
you know, I was telling you about, Yeah, I'm doing music.
Uh shit, I see you doing interviews with the you know,
other side town niggas and shit, uh shit, come down
here and check out our artists, check us out, you know,
and put it out to the world what we got
going on down here. You know what I'm saying. And

(02:04):
that's how we met. You know that. You I told
you you good under my name to come down to
the hood and do the interview, you know what I'm saying.
And I stood on there. You was good, you were
say you know what I'm saying. Shit, we went all
through the hood. So I mean, that's that's all that
you know what I'm saying, That's all.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That all right, man, this is a special interview. You
know what I'm saying. I know it's been a minute
since we spoke, but this is a person who I
got a deep level of respect for, hoover Land Tree
vote and let him know who you got with you?

Speaker 3 (02:40):
All right? What it is. It's Hooverland Trouvo. You know
this is my big brother d here. You know, real
day one Hooverland. You know, really out here, really Dune
did Dune did it all? It ain't nothing. We ain't
dead down here, you know what I'm saying. We just
we're here the clit er. You know what I'm saying.
I let Bro you know, introduce herself though even though
our that it did.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
But you know, hey man, it's who Land d Hen,
you know straight up at that bottom side side for Worth, Texas.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
And I want to I do want to get into that.
But before we do, I just want to get the
elephant out of the room because the Hen is actually
the one who banned me from Fort Worth. You know
what I'm saying right now, I'm currently banned.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
I ain't been back. Shit, I ain't gonna say I.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Might have came, I might have came in quick snuki
and got out. You know what I'm saying, Yeah, what's
up with that?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
What's up with the band? I just to me, I
ain't gonna say the band was.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
It wasn't no for work band, bro, because you know,
I can't tell you where to go in for work.
My my band was only in my neighborhood, which is
the hoop Land, you know what I'm saying. And you know,
we talked about the issue, but we can let the
people know what the issue is, bro, And what the
issue was, you know what I'm saying. We are already

(04:00):
talked about it private, so you know we're gonna let
the people know what the issue is. It ain't no issue,
you know what I'm saying. But as you.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I just you know, you did it on the internet,
you know, so I just thought, you know what I'm saying,
I just you know it'll be it'll be you know,
niggas watching the interview and you know, seeing us do
an interview. But I'm being you know what I'm saying.
I just you know what I'm saying right right now. Now,

(04:31):
Let's just because there's a lot that's been going on
on the internet, but I want to actually let the
people get to know, you know who y'all are, Right,
So y'all are originally from the south side of Forward.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
They want they want correct to be exact.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Raise you my mamah, my dad off the south side
of this whole family off the south side, my mom.
Like how we were born and raised in the Hooverland.
I was born in ninety two. We moved to Hooverland
in like ninety four. I was born in ninety two.
We moved to Hooverland ninety four. And it's been that

(05:15):
since then.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So when you were growing up, was it always holand.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Like, yeah, always from like I told you over the phone,
you know, we were really third fourth generation Hooverland, you know,
Hoover members. You know what I'm saying. It's been that
since the early early nineties. You see what I'm saying.
When we was kids, really late eighties, it's been Hooverland types,

(05:43):
you know what I'm saying, real late eighties. So it's
been Hooverland. When I was growing up and first second grade,
I was screaming Hooverland because that's what I was hearing
all the older than who was already in the streets
scream hoop Streets Stream Moveland.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know what I'm saying, right, But so tell us
about that, like when y'all were growing up before, you know,
being on the set, Like how was life difference?

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Like what you say, Bro, that that gotta that that
that lead me back to the blue and golds, you
know what I'm saying, Like I say, Yeah, it ain't
just oh I can come here, I want to be
a crypt No, it's that's not the That's not how
it is, bro. It's certain stuff that you have to
go through in the neighborhood to even become a crip.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
So the blue and gold is just uh ah, a
color of the neighborhood that we represent, you know what
I'm saying. I don't know if you know about for work,
but each side of town has they own color, and
blue and gold is our color, the south side colors.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
So on on on that speaking like growing up us,
growing up, it's always been blue. Wul't go because we
wasn't on the set. We weren't on the set yet.
We used to scream and I had this conversation with
you online, you know what I mean, over the phone.
Growing up it was a whole lot of games. Was

(07:15):
not a whole lot, but it was a couple of
games that had pre south Side creepers. It was south
Side hoodlums. We were south Side hoodlims for the longest.
You see what I'm saying. Because it wasn't no big
homies out giving us game and putting us on the set.
It wasn't no big homies out like that exactly. Bro.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
We was raised up under Fauxtrays, Little Robert and uh
thems them they are big homies from the hood too.
They from the Hoover Lamb Insane is from the hoop Lamb.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Bro. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
That's we came up under them because all our homies
are in jail, you know what I'm saying. So the
little homies that we did, I mean, the little older
homies that we didn't have left out here, they was
the ones that show us the game, you know what
I'm saying. So now everybody coming back home week now
we're getting familiar with everybody else, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
And like I told you, once the big homie started
coming on, and they seem like we already lock and
seas we locking seas were screaming hoover Land, We screaming
fire dues and these like I told you, we had
a big brawl at the at the Hood park about this.
You know what I'm saying, got down, Something got down.

(08:26):
They didn't want to get down. The niggas who have
been banging and shit.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Like we some felt like they was already old enough
to even be trying to get down, or they already
put it in the work in the hood to already
be accepted. It is down on the set. You know
what I'm saying, which is you know, some way some
it's it's some way right in that. You know what
I'm saying. Everybody gone in jail. So these are the

(08:53):
guys just holding it down, you know what I'm saying.
They're the ones just putting it on. And and they not
even crips yet. Ain't nobody here that even solidified them.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Ye, nobody was home. Like I can say, Killer Fee
came home, Mont came home. Look, greg Now came home.
That's when it really started. But Handy came home. That's
when it really started getting put on the set ship
like that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Right now, hoover Land When you say Hoover Land, right,
that's not the game.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's the community, that's the neighbor that's the neighborhoodde the
mixed up, but yeah, that's the neighborhood. It's the land
of the deuces. It's the land of the grooves, the
original land like where it started. That's why it's land,
because this is where it started at.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
When you say where it started at, what you mean
by that break that.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Part day in Fort Worth, Texas. I'm not saying this
is where Hoover's started because you know, they already had
it in LA. But when Hoover's first came to for Worth,
like I say, we all know and there it landed
right here on outside of town. Rank Rank brought that
down here. Rank brought it down here.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
You can arguably say, you know, prior to prior to
other Hoovers coming from Shreveport, Louisiana, that y'all were the
first in the state of Texas.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it up. It was crips here,
Like from my knowledge that I've been passed down, cribs
was cribs been here and to my knowledge, like all
the ogs told me, come on, it was cripping first,
it was six to first. Then rank came down here.

(10:46):
But from like I say, from the knowledge that I've
been passed down to rank been down here before. He
lived down here before. He just wasn't banging when he
left and came back. I think he was about fifteen
fourteen fifteen. He was banging. He was banging five dues
Hoover and his in the circle and his in the homies.

(11:10):
They picked that up from him. Well, I'm not gonna
go into everybody that he put on the set and
who he didn't put on the set, but he putting
it on and it spread it. But like I say,
they was kids. Rank was they was all kids ranked
Dodd at seventeen. So it's kids passing around. Like we're

(11:33):
gonna get into the nitty gritty of this conversation, it's
kids passing around knowledge on something. It's kids information passing
around to other kids. This cripping information, whether they know
it all, whether they don't know it all. It's kids
at the same time still passing around all cripping information.
And like the end of like we'd be seeing on

(11:54):
the interviews, but we didn't get our cripping from Louisiana.
We didn't really get our cripping from CALLI. We got
our cripping from Rank. The homies that's cripping, Fied Dukes,
Hoverland cripping. They got that knowledge from Rank and they
passed it down to us. Like I said, we third

(12:15):
fourth generation. So this is what's been stood on hCG.
The real money in the room, and it's really h
l CG, Hooverland crib game. It's not we we screamed
Hooverland crib game. It's tattered on everybody. Hl CG. You

(12:35):
got h CG, but it's still hoover Land crib game.
And we never had no nobody screamed gangster. I never
heard nobody scream against except for insane and they foxtrays
we Fied Dukes, we never screamed. We never screamed gangster cryp.

(12:56):
We didn't have the knowledge then, Like I told you
over the phone back when these started cripping, they didn't
have Instagram, Facebook, social media to just reach out to
nobody from Cali or they they didn't even have Internet
to reach out to this and Cali and be like, hey,

(13:17):
what's going on, Let's tap in and woo wool plus
Cali one't coming down here with us. Nobody was going
to Cali and CALLI yes, like like I tell, excuse
me a long distance car? You had to pay for that?
These day kids, kids ain't my main't FeelA, let you
make no loan. This is call on her phone.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
And some of them probably ain't even had a knowledge
to even get on the uh and make a long
distance call, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
So so it's a it's a miscommunication under the same umbrella, like.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
We not.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I wouldn't say what they do. This is this. This
is the words from my big homie with y'all, with
y'all movement, with how fire dues move out of the
love of Rank. If Rank wouldn't have died, or he
still would have been here, even if he wouldn't have
came down here, I'm pretty sure it ain't no telling

(14:18):
what this would have been at a lot of people
wouldn't be fire dues, A lot of we we wouldn't
be screaming that, you know what I'm saying. But the
fact that Rank did come down here and this is
what he put on. Then he died at a young age.
His homeboys and this inner circle they honored that and

(14:39):
they kept the grooving, they kept it going. We all Hoover,
we all groove, we we we rep and we rock
how we rock. That put it down before us that
I know they stamp. They stamped. I'm talking about legends
in the city. You go inside of town and that's
about these and they know they let then they really

(15:00):
put it down for this groove, you know what I'm saying.
So for I'm not I don't even want to speak
on like I say, the little the little on the
interview and like saying I'm skipping around but looking on
the interview saying like yo, y'all come up here with
that shit, some bad gonna happen to you or something

(15:24):
saying shit, if you come down here to Texas the
Hoover land on some bullshit and some bad gonna happen
to you. It ain't no and it ain't nothing sweet
about this. Like and now we talked about this last night.
We cleared it up, but I ain't sweet down here.
It ain't more dangerous in La than it is in Calli.

(15:44):
I mean then it is in Texas. It's the same
amount of dangerous. Then you gotta think Texas open carry
all these little got guns. The youngest on the block
got a gun. So's it's really about getting more money
down here. Like y'all the politics that they use in Cali,
we don't use that because our demographic is different. We

(16:07):
get we get it. We get money down here. Like
link up, criped blood vice lord VC, whatever you is.
If you're a real stand up man about yourself and
you get into some money with you, now, yeah, you
got your little personal bees with little clicks and that
make it up this side of town versus that side

(16:28):
of town. But it really don't be that. It just
be you a little group of beefing with this little
group of nis and for to be like, oh they
got they cripping wrong, they cripping I cripping right. Maybe
our knowledge is misconscrewed up. How this go and how
this being but that put down for this CG that

(16:50):
stamp stamp stamp and can't I don't. I'm not. I'm
being real, like I tell my hommies all the time.
I'm not. I don't see myself flip flopping to be
no GC GC no disrespect. I'm like I'm like this too.
I'm like this.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
If if we was to come together and get an understanding.
Then it would be our big homies time. It wouldn't
be on our time to make that decision. You see
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
So like I don't know, man, you know it's our
one thing, bro. You know what I mean? Y'all? Are
we all grooving? Bro? And then, like I said, a
lot of niggs that's down here. I ain't gonna speak
on no names, but you know who you is, y'all
flip flopping exactly because Duke Duke put a lot of

(17:42):
these down, and there's other homies from Hooverland put these
ns down, and they put these down under CG And
if you ain't been to Cali or for Cali, that's
gangster crib or criminal and came down here and put
your nicks on and you all of a sudden screaming
gangster crib. You flip flock. And I stand on that
like it ain't no disrespect to you, but you you

(18:05):
flip flop because in order to be under a gangster carton,
you gotta get put down under this. A lot of
you got put down under the crib game that's worldwide
in Texas, that's all over the penitential system that's all
over the streets and where I go, they know about who.

(18:26):
It ain't nothing like, it ain't And this is what
I remember. I told you on the phone. It ain't
nothing against like. But it ain't nothing against no Cali,
no shree reporting, no GC, no criminals. But we've been
putting down for this for forty plus years, since since
Rank was here and after he gone, we've been putting
on for this and it ain't nothing you can tell.

(18:49):
Even if it's like gonna be saying, you know for
know he wrong and still be doing wrong, it ain't
even that, cul is you gotta respect what we done
did because if Hoover is Hoover and we standing for
something and we're not just gonna switch it up just
because you said, oh, it ain't that because everything made up,
crip was made up, five dukes was made up, All

(19:11):
this was made up. How you like? I ain't speaking
on y'all politics and what you did, But y'all gangs,
the cribs, y'all, five dukes gangst the cribs and you
got five dukes criminals. How you on the same set
and criminals say they killed cribs. How y'all rocking the
same thing. How you under the same flag. But that's saying,
oh now I'm crib gang. I don't want to scream

(19:34):
gangst the or criminal. I'm crib gang. I'm still with
the cribs. How can you go against that? We got
love for everybody. You going against your own gang? How
can you? How can you do that? You need to
embrace that, You need to respected that. So you gotta
respect the law that our big homies and the homies

(19:55):
before our big homies, the law that they put down.
And it's and that's real. Like I told you on
the phone on the phone, light bro, you not wrong
real tune for you're not wrong for doing your job.
Man padling yo being no no on, You're not wrong
for doing your job that pay you. But at the
same time, I'm gonna tell you this, like you didn't

(20:16):
have all the information. You didn't have all the information,
and you putting the information that you're putting out as
little to none. You see what I'm saying, And you're
not wrong. You you doing your job. You getting content
or whatever you like I said, I told you on
the phone, I ain't up with you about it. But
at the same time, I was.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Just saying, that's the info that I was gay. You
know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, giving so much, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
But see, look this is the thing, though, Tone We
brought you down Nerd to highlight the music, to highlight
the artists in the in the neighborhood. We never said, hey, tune,
come down here. See what this hubulan shit about. See
if you can connect us with call or street Port.
We never seen it that, you know what I'm saying.
So that was our biggest issue with you.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Like it was really supposed to be about the music,
but you kind of took what we said in the
interview about the neighborhood. You got off the plane with
yeah and forgot what we implemented.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
That's that's not that's not the way that went. See,
I had already talked to insane, you know what I'm saying.
So I had already was doing a documentary, Like I'm
not just taking what y'all said. You know that was
like he So you know what I'm saying, Like I

(21:38):
added that.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
If you wouldn't have never ran into trip Over that night,
what you have ever came to the hood, because before
prior to that, I can remember all of us reaching
out about the music.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
So if it wasn't for that night, what you have
ever came to the hood.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
You know, most most interactions with me be personal, gang
like like because people can reach out like I don't
be checking dms, you know, especially back then.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
You know what I'm saying, like ceature.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Now we're telling you, we're telling you way before our live. Hey, bro,
this is the neighborhood that you're skipping over, Like come here, come, come, come,
come here and see what we got going.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. The information that you got.
We really wasn't putting a lot of gang information after.
We're putting the neighborhood. This is our community. We're not
putting gangs and what we repp and how we grew.
We're not we we really ain't putting that all out.
We showing you how we rock in our neighborhood. Because

(22:41):
it's plenty. It ain't plenty. It ain't a lot of
gangs in Hooveland. It's you got young clicks. But it's
only one game, and that's that's too hudlum. Now it's
a couple. You got csp you got the hulum, you
got you know Chucker.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Street, you got you know what I'm saying, shout out
my name, Cannon, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
So, but it's different. It's different. Gruves and sit under
this shit and we're not putting all that shit on
the internet. We can't. We you know, we clicked up
about the music and she putting highlights on our music
and how we trying to well and how we how
we rock and the reason why we do our music
like this and how we grew up. You know what

(23:23):
I'm saying, to make us do the music that we do.
That was the point blank period. Now the saying of
like we get our cripping from street Port and bro,
we don't get our we don't do none of that. Well,
we ain't get our from street Port. I don't know
no from street Port. I do because I got family
members out there, but not on no gang ranking level

(23:44):
I know. And Cally like we linked up after the
we linked up with Hugo. We are p little Ootie.
We uh we linked up with these dudes. Done linked
up with uh? He say big joker, Big Tim, He
say Tim verified rank getting put on and he knows
you know, these are all things that we are in
connected with That's what I think we have.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
We never got the chance to thank you for tune
because all this has started taking off. But that video
did bring a little Sodi and uh Hugo tours you
know what, syah free Hugo r P little Sodi.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
But the current interviews is causing a lot of controversy
because you putting a way you putting on the internet
that ain't from Hooverland, like no disrespecting it, not no
disrespected person, no disrespect the cookkoa do but not from Hooverland.
You didn't give us to do this.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Just do our footwork, to do our job, to go
after and Cali and plug our own self and or
go to report and plug open the tunnel off after.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, you made it. You put it publicly likeney Chucks
ain't like stuff Disney word blue and gold and like
that's what you put out to the world, like for
Worth hoovers weren't blue and gold and that's not true.
That's that's that's not true, like you put fort Worth hoovers.
You saying for Warth hoovers is uh a cg yo

(25:10):
we that and we've been stamped at like it's a
lot of in Cali, like I say, it's pen they
penitential cripping. They know about a c G. A CG
is the probably the biggest gang in the Penitential state
of Texas, the biggest crip game. So it makes it

(25:30):
seem like what we're saying and how we've been grooving
and how we've been doing it, it's like like been
doing it for nothing or like false flagging or not
not really do they real cripping and knowing what they
doing and doing this for nothing when it's totally false,
you know what I'm saying, doing this for homies that
doesn't die for the community like we do a lot
of for the community. Like I say, in Texas, it's

(25:52):
about getting some money, man, I I know, come on, man,
and when you came out, Bro, that's the that's the
move we was in. We was in.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
We was in uh stopping the violence. We was we
was about trying to reach out to everybody else and
bring them in and get some money. Yeah, like we
stopped all our war between us and come over the sixties.
This has been going on since before I was even born, Bro,
and we the ones that hey hold on, Bro, We

(26:25):
got people stay out here. It's people stay over here
from over there, man, and and these people family. We
gotta stop this, bro.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
Like you say you're doing people that you're doing the
documentary on the gangs and how they come to forward, and.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
You were saying I was doing I came out there
and I was doing the documentary on the game.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Okay, yeah, right, But you gotta look at the positive
that the gang's doing. You see what I'm saying, and
game and gang man and gonna get killed, donna die,
gonna ride, slide, go to jail. That's that's part of
gang banging. But like our generation, like I tell my
little homies, I'm always overdudes, I'm a dollar shit. But

(27:08):
you can do it in a better life. You can
be you can be a police officer throwing up the
dudes once you donna say, somebody a fire fighters. It's
about the positivity that are doing in the hood and
then his community. Like it ain't about gang banging today,
ain't about slide and killing the ops and shit like
we ain't on that. It ain't on that. If if

(27:30):
I play with any type of way, I'm letting it
be known across the internet and don't handle this business
as a man. We got damn me.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
We we do plenty of back to school bashes, basketball,
term barbecues, homies and donuts, all type of the hood.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Bro. Like that's just but but back to what I'm saying,
like about this about the missing form cripping. Like, Bro,
we've been standing on this. We've been standing on this
thirty plus years. You know what I mean. I'm saying
we've been standing on this and it's stamp like like,
remember we had the conversation on about connecting with CALLI

(28:11):
and getting it official. You know what I'm saying, Like,
that's the conversation that we need to be having a solution.
You got all these on here like gumpy and cool
thing them and like, y'all ain't coming up with no solutions.
Ain't nobody money, Nobody talk about geting no money about
it's just about, Oh, you doing this, y'all doing this

(28:32):
down here, we're doing this. Oh we got a scrib.
Y'all ain't on the scrib. We're in a whole totally
demographic from y'all. Car I see they don't move, how
y'all move, We don't move, how y'all move? Down here,
y'all don't move how we move up there exactly. So
it's gonna be different. It's gonna be different, but you
gotta respect the real need for doing some realness. And

(28:53):
that's how it gotta be a mutual respect. Like Yo,
we see y'all up than CALLI on streetport doing y'all thing.
Y'all see us down here doing our thing, and it's
a distant salute. It ain't no, it ain't controversy because
I don't give what you is. I don't give. If
you blood crib vice, lord, you can be going to
corral and I don't give. If we're gonna get some money,

(29:15):
let's get some money. If you're a real stand up,
let's get some money. You know what I'm saying. And
for negs will be going out on the internet like
you don't y'all don't really speak who the business on
the internet about how we're trying to get right and
who ain't lighted up and who not lightsed up? And
who ain't put down and who is put down? You
don't speak, that's as it's not for the world, bro

(29:40):
like them gumpy them, gumpy the little that ain't an interview?
Who had the green Pants song. That's really who I
want to check in with Carr and get his knowledge
that they're talking about he gonna groove something because we
grew this way too. And then you see what I'm saying,
like it go both ways both ways. But if it

(30:02):
ain't got to come to that where I can high
let you and be like yeah you need official, Yeah
we official, it go both ways and we can come
to a mutual respect. It really shouldn't be no problem.
Whether it's cgg C criminals, it shouldn't it should that
shouldn't even matter. Cut them letters, them letters, The movement
behind the letters is what really mattered. The progress behind

(30:24):
the letters and the that's what really mattered. Cruse like
what he doing and gumpy there he he's nine dudes.
You all in five due business, wasn't it in five dues?
Who's a banging.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
You?

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Nine dudes? You ain't fied dues, So it ain't no
disrespect to you. But like you be telling NA run
and there you know you and who you in? You
in fire du business? You in the said business. Cud
If I ain't right and I don't think ill right,
that think I crippin is right? Cuse you seeing something
out here'll tap in on line because our lines is

(31:01):
open and set it up to word you. You lacen
the chuck up on some rich whether they want to
hear it or not. But my message is like I
ain't gonna even cap cut. Gotta respect. We spent respect
what y'all doing all the way out there. Y'all respect
what we're doing all the way out here. Cut because
the Crip gang ain't going nowhere. I can't. I just

(31:23):
can't see myself doing it. I can't. I can't see
myself switching up some ship that put it, yeah, put
in working. We can't do it. Cook died for this
in jail thirty and forty life life sentences like never
coming home behind this and they still in there banging

(31:44):
the sayings CG Crib gang who crib?

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Like for they looking out here and we don't switch
the switch the sense of like nah no.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Just like its original after sixty plus, that's over crib.
They just over crib. It's out there fire Dukes gangster
crib and it's fire Duke's criminal. I don't I don't
see how you too different? Like how is that the same?
And you can't respect another nig out here that's doing
his own thing, going to the fire, do something. Brother,

(32:16):
that's the that's the clearic. Like, what's the solution to this, cul,
what's the solution y'all want to with us? We're gonna
with y'all if y'all don't want to. We're not renegating
y'all ship. But there's just some that just been put
in and that you can't change. CUL. Yeah, that's y'all
fire dudes or whatever. That's y'all. It's started in LA.

(32:38):
But like I told him, I'll come down there and
get put down, put hands on y'all, try to put
hands on me. And but I'm still stamp that. It's
stamped in l A. That is c G. Cuh. I'll
go down there and look at whatever for this ship.
You know what I'm saying, to earn that respect for
my homies and before me, Boy, don't crips before me.

(33:02):
So that way they can they can hoover in honor.
They can crip in honor behind this CG because it's
it gotta be stamped CUME. Like me and my partner,
we've just should have been an ongoing conversation and it
came up like I say, it came. I'm in the
mix because, like I said, I gave you a pass
to the hood to come and do the interview and

(33:23):
ship and we and we locked in and we did that,
but it took off on the whole different spectrum cume
to where I'm feeling like down. If I didn't if
I wouldn't have did that, none of this should have
been going on. But in another sense too, being a
Devil's advocate, you you ain't wrong for doing your job too.
You're doing your job. It's the news in the game,

(33:45):
like Percy said, this is the news that's answering the questions.
That's up. Yeah, the nigs, that's answering the questions that
you asking it and pointing fingers instead of creating solutions
or keeping the real respect like you I heard about them,
that we respect them. It's all love. It was all

(34:06):
love with you, yeah, bro, instead of with um yo dukes.
Ain't big joking them, big tim them like in that
like with us. But for to say that ain't no
real gang. And if you come down here to the
section and banging that some bad gonna happen to you.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Man.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
If it's a real game and go down, Go down.
Had it come to mess come to Hoover Lane to
see if it's a real game. You can tell, you
can tell the youngest on the block, could that ain't real?
He gonna get right with you. It's gonna, I tell you,
it's gonna be in line ready to get you like
coul Now, let me get them, No, let me get them, no,

(34:49):
let me get them to the point where everybody, you're
gonna have thirty forty fifty fast. I heard them calling
talking about wint duncking o fast and you're gonna have
fast for days old weekend here. It's gonna be number phase.
It's gonna be nothing but fades cul the same as
the same as if we come up there. But not

(35:11):
on that unless you want to get on that. But
I don't making a solution like cub respect what we
got going on. Don't get on this internet capping about
that's right real, This ain't that. And because this is
what it is, we letting you know, like yo, this
Hooleland crip gang. Nothing else, this Hooleland crip gang. I

(35:32):
don't I don't know. I don't know about nothing else.
I don't know about that other we don't even know
where that's And.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Then Bro, I ain't gonna you know, much respect for
you know, O G. Person much respect for you know,
I read to Coach the twice. You know it's cordial,
but uh man too. I just feel like it's more,
it's more the homies more, it's more who was out here.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
That you can be with real knowledge that you can
be connecting with cut and getting the real deep in
the action of cub what's really going on? Og Deserray,
she's a real stepperd.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Bro Like that was right? That was rank girlfriend, O G.
Hoover bandit. You know what I'm saying. It's you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Bagh, Look Grego, it's not out here that was really
around in these errors, Bro. That can give these other
like other knowledge on really what's going on. We could
give you knowledge from knowledge that we inherited, you see
what I'm saying, But our knowledge only go so far.
But these can give you first hand experiences of how

(36:45):
this Hooverland she was going, how this Hooverland s started,
and how it bloomed the way it bloom you know
what I'm saying, And that can clear up a lot
of respect from these everywhere else. That's that's speaking on
that's speaking on it. You know what I'm saying, because
they don't really know. They probably never even been here.
Like I ain't never gruge with no knis in Streetport.

(37:07):
I didn't been to La I'd have been on fifty
second Street and Hove, I'd have been on Figure Roll,
been on fifty first. I got I got pictures and
standing up there up under the sign, and shit, I
done talked to a couple of knigs out there. I
got family that live in a trade a trades. I
told you this on the phone. They a trade a
trade gangsters. They owed to a trade gangsters. So you

(37:34):
gotta come to a mutual respect, cause that's it. That's all.
That's all it is, cause we we we zero tolerance
on disrespect, but we're looking for respect, like mutual respect
because we respect y'all. Were looking for y'all to respect us.
If you disrespect us and you feel like it's disrespect,
it is what it is. But like I say, it

(37:55):
ain't gonna be gassing up going all the way to
Cali the slide, and I'm pretty shit Cally ain't gonna
be gassing up coming all the way out here to slot.
It's pointless. So you might as well have that mutual
connection and respect where you can get on the line
and be like, Yo, we see what you're doing down there. Yo,
we see what y'all doing up there. It's our love
and respect. I ain't trying to kill no more black men.

(38:18):
Ain't trying to kill nobody else or or go to
war behind some letters come and that's what he's doing. Like, Bro,
you ain't like I can be getting so much money together,
but y'all rather beef because from somewhere else, or not
claiming what you're claiming, beefing over the beefing over the

(38:40):
that's not before working on for players and pimps. It
was Benchie street players back in the day, like come on, man,
not getting money down here? Come south Side players, Bensie
Street plas so. But don't think nothing sweet cut because
it's banging this for real, whether it don't go. If
it came from New Mexico, give a fuck whord came from.

(39:03):
We put on with it this the knowledge that we
was gave and were rocking with it. Ain't no switching up.
I ain't no switching up. Ain't no, ain't no switching up.
It's a getting an understanding and getting approval of the
relationships that we have with each other. Hoover cribs, Hoover criminals,
gangster cribs. It's a mutual respect thing, but a little

(39:28):
more knowledge, like your knowledge. Just give us the knowledge. Come,
just give us the knowledge. Whatn't you choose to do
with the knowledge that's on them? But not handing that
out and just pointing fingers on, oh, you don't know this,
you don't know that, you don't know this, instead of
helping them get Laci's chucks up and even approve of

(39:48):
how I been doing it, because it ain't our cripping
ain't wrong. I feel like our cripping ain't wrong. It's
just even our knowledge is not wrong. It's just misconscrewed.
It's been a miscommunication somewhere down the line that don't
know what other know. Everybody don't know the same thing.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
And I just was, you know, telling you how this
because I've been watching these videos and too. But aggressive
knowledge is the worst knowledge.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
Bro.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
You not gonna get your corn across you, not me,
and this man sitting here with an aggressive conversation. You
think we got we got anything accomplished. No, we ain't
get nonhe nob bro, we were still gonna walk out
that door and still be kind of uh chest.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Beating whatever on his heart, on his heart and in
life that ship.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
But coming to a respect yeah yeah, yeah, I respect
your knowledge, but makes us respectful when you're giving me
the knowledge.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
You know what I'm saying, don't just be No, I
ain't nothing. I ain't trying to hear that. Ain't trying
to hear what you're gonna do to a nothing. I
ain't worry about nothing it's doing. N ain't worry about
none of that. I'm talking about none of that. Give
damn you fifty got something to hold you. But it

(41:04):
wouldn't have to come to that feak as men, real tune,
you know what I'm saying, if have to sit down
as real man to be like say, cud, yeah, this
how it went? This how it go? We understand that
y'all got a script up there and CALLI and that's
what y'all followed up. We ain't got no oh, we
don't have no real ogs neither. We got elders. We
call them OG's because they originals. Was original. The original

(41:29):
started it with rank cemen out of clag Man, Barry,
honey Bird up under them, Duke Handy, Alli, we.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Ain't real to this the real money in the room, Okay.
I just wanted to clarify. At one point you made
you said that when you were growing up, most people
from Hooverland were in jail. So you were raised by
trays like Insane the founder of the trade gangster Crimson
for work. What do you what do you mean by that?

(42:08):
Like you were raised by like trades in Hooverland, but
you were still from Hooverland.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Uh, Hooverland is just the name of the neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Everybody know.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Insane Foux trade, uh gang found before work. He's also
from the Hooverland, you know what I'm saying. So the
trades was also in the Hooverland. It's not just uh
uh of five deuces inside the hooland it's trade too,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
So just to clear that up.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Uh yeah, highly respected Foe trades.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Also mad Man.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Uh you know insane you know, Uh, ray Face shout
out my boy, ray Face, trouble Kirk, treble Kirk. You
know what I'm saying. It's highly respected faux trades in
our neighborhood also, you know, and that was just you know,
guys older than us to look up to, that's doing
the same thing.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
You know, what where where at this time? Where was
y'all's uncles, Like, did y'all have like uncles and dads?
Like where were they?

Speaker 3 (43:18):
Well?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
My dad, my dad, Uh, my dad left when I
was three. He did a thirty year big hitting licks.
He's also from the hood also, but I got an
uncle that's also a five dudes hoo. We also uh,
you know, he spent time in jail also, so you know,

(43:39):
it was really a bunch of women raising young men
around in the neighborhood, you know, Uh far as I
can say, Uh, don't none of us say, I know,
daddy bro.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
Rick. That was just that present time, all the time,
growing up, at the time, growing up. You know, maybe
they got out later on, got their daddy or something,
but yo or nah. And then at the same time
we outside it ain't no, ain't no uncles and out
side and most uncles, like most from the hood, they

(44:14):
family gang bangers. They uncles and ship they gang bang.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
They Hoover, they poetrayed or you know what I'm saying,
like that's just you. Are you poetrading? Are you just Hudlim?
Hulim is the bird to both sets. You either gonna
go that way or this way, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
So that was our you can say that was our
clique you want, you can say that was our clique,
south Side Hulium. It was Creepers first creeps, South Street players,
but almost everybody even in those organizations or groups was Hooliams.
We Southside Hudlims and that, and we rocked the blue
and gold. We rocked the blue and gold street mafia.

(44:57):
They we weren't. They weren't blue and gold, but for
us was wearing blue and gold. Ag and Greg all
these they was wearing blue and gold before us, you
see what I'm saying. But on a sense of our community,
like Bro, we was really out there raising ourselves. Like
not saying our parents weren't doing it, but we kids.

(45:20):
We was kids just like I say, the generation before us,
like I say, Rank, everybody was kids. Cuz so you
might think you know something or your homeboy might be
in the streets longer than you so you think he
know everything about it, when ultimately he a kid, so
he don't know everything. You know what I'm saying. That's
how a lot of information get passed, get passed up

(45:45):
or not even acknowledged, because, like I say, we are kids.
Everybody was kids. Yeah, you grew up into a man
and to this whatever you is today. But when you
when we first started this, when we first started doing this,
we was kids. We was kids. So I was. I
remember being a kid coming fresh out of high school.

(46:10):
Go get what I'm getting hustling and I'm sharing with him.
But guess what, he gotta get up and go to school.
I gotta get up to go to school in the morning.
I'm hustling too, but I got to get up and
go to school. I'm leaving football practice. I'm going straight to.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
The at the club. Guess where he there? Don't guess
where he gotta go to school in the morning.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
So these these my big brothers, And you know what
I'm saying, Like I grew up, I'm saying, I grew up. Bro.
Really just me, my mama, my sister, and my granny.
You see what I'm saying. That's how that's all it was.
A one though, I would go to my uncle neim
house up my daddy, Mama, you know what I'm saying.

(46:51):
But my daddy was always locked up. My daddy did
so much time in the pending that we didn't have
no relationship type you know what I'm saying. So when
I the streets fathered me type shit. The streets is
what made me a man getting out there. I'm by myself,
don't I didn't have no brothers and like really like

(47:12):
cousins around to be like, hey, these messing with me,
and I go get my cousins and now I'm in
the I'm in this by myself. So I really grew
up handling my own business by myself. You see what
I'm saying. That's what made me the man I am today.
But I adopted brothers like this my big brother. I
got my boy fat c LG. You see what I'm saying,

(47:34):
crayed and being uh, all of themies. You know, these
these became my brothers. J C. He rad big brother
J Mack. Hey, that's another nied from day one.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Really really really I'm talking about j mag Mama and
my mama.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
They real, who is bro kid doing that thing? He
pulling up giving me dollars in Bro, and you see
what I'm saying. Real, you know what I'm saying. But
and all that to say, like Bro, we berthed our
own community, like we berthed our own like Hooverland, this
hoover it was birthed off the nigs that was down here.

(48:15):
We didn't have no help from no Cali niggas. We
didn't have no help from no street Port, no no nobody.
Hooverland knowledge and Hooverland history comes strictly from south side
of folk Worth, Hooverland, from the news that was Darren
when it started. So own't now like saying, ain't no
Cali nigs hitting the lines and pulling up, Ain't no

(48:36):
street port hitting the line and pulling up and doing
nothing for nick, You see what I'm saying. So we
don't want nobody to get get the get the point
or get the thought of that manis don't know what
they doing or ain't doing it for real, because we're
doing it for real, Cook, We real like doing it

(48:58):
for real. We might not be doing it high y'all
doing it how y'all want us to do it, but
we're doing it for real, CUK like and you gotta
respect it. And that's how that's how it take is
a conversation for you to lay that lock down to
be like, respect it. And that's what we're standing on, like, cuh,

(49:18):
respect it, don't disrespect it if you even if you,
we rather you not even acknowledge it. If you're gonna
disrespect it, because we're gonna check it. It ain't zero
tolerance for disrespect, zero tolerance for disrespect. Whether you're saying them,
ain't real them, fake they fathers claiming them, I don't know.
It's zero talents from that. And like I tell my problems,

(49:40):
I got on here to advocate to these from Caddy,
like say, cut, we don't like the low down. We
all who would just respect what we got going on.
Just respect what we got going on. We're gonna respect
what you got going on. And let's get some money.
CEE g GC what let's let's let's get some money. Code.

(50:01):
It ain't no, ain't no switching up, ain't no switching
up what you've been doing for thirty years. It's already, bro.
This just hit the internet, like you said five years ago, right,
real tune, and it's already switching up like they been
put down with GC. Y'all got put down CG. I

(50:21):
mean y'all got put down with CG. Real tune, drop
a video some street port and can say something, y'all
switch it up, and y'all flip fly claiming, oh we
got our lace, our trucks laced up. It flip flop.
Especially if you ain't if you talking about game politics

(50:42):
and how game politics go, you not this, You not this,
if you're not on, if they ain't put you on,
you not this, And ain't no GC from Cali, no
nowhere else came down here and put none of these
you gotta put on from from hovelandy'll put on by dude,
can see man and flagg Man all the other things around,

(51:04):
and that's how it spread it around the city. And
there ain't no Ken come down here and putting nobody on.
So for us to switch up on it, that's lame
in the that's lame in the And I ain't gonna
do it now. I respect, I respect what y'all got
going on, y'all gangs the crib, you criminal. I respect

(51:24):
what you got going on. I respect you as a man. First,
I'm gonna show you respect as a man first until
you until you lose that respect. It's on you to
lose that respect. You see what I'm saying. I'm gonna
give it to you off top. I'm gonna give you
respect off top. But if you lose that disrespect, if
you lose that respect and you disrespecting that gonna handle
a business as a man. I ain't taking no threats

(51:45):
lightly and I'm not going I'm not boring none of that.
I ain't born none of that. So I'm speaking for
my homies and my my big homies that passed that
still heard. Even some of my homies fast and there
like we we greo and we see this crip gang

(52:08):
Big five do something my next hoover land on my
arm stone? Could It ain't no change in this. So
it's only takes for to have a conversation and from
anywhere else to respect what I'm doing. Cul when I
fly out the this is gonna be on my hand.
You know what I'm saying. Man told this to.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Real money in the room. So so y'all don't respect
if like somebody's like, you know, this is just me
playing devil's advocate as a journalist. But if somebody's like, Okay,
now we've gotten this knowledge and this is the route
we want to move. You know what I'm saying, that's
frowned upon to become GC once you were already c G.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
I said earlier, though it's not for us to do
bro our older homies to go and do that, and
then we followed them.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
You know what I'm saying, It's not up to us
to do We fly all day. But and then on
this sense of how you like gang politics. If it
ain't no, if I'm not if I'm not official gangster,
crib or criminal, if I ain't got put down under this,
I can't put you down under no gangster because I'm

(53:21):
not even that. I can't put you down. I don't
know gangs. I can't put you down under that. So
how you even gonna be that? For a young coming
up and asking me, cause I want to be gangster
crib you gotta go find you a gangster that's official
to put you down because if I put you down,
if I put you on, you're gonna be crib game.

(53:44):
And that's how it goes. That's that's just because that's
what I am. You get put down under the game.
You own you can't. I can't. That's just like me saying, yeah,
that's that's like saying because I want to be sick,
so put me down. I ain't six, So I'm I'm
gonna put you down with six. You gotta go find

(54:05):
some gangster criminals or some criminal needs to put you down.
That's what you gotta get in tune with. Like it's
just impossible cuse for to switch up if if me this,
any of our big homies hand me, and I already
know they ain't going for it. I know anything that's
over me, they ain't going for it. They're not finna

(54:26):
switch up and say, oh I'm going gangster crib. They're
not going for this any older in their right mind.
They really shed blood, sweat and tears. Baptist. You gotta
tell mine if you gonna do it. So your best
move to me is as men and as one umbrella
under the set is the respect what then got going on,

(54:47):
CU because we're gonna respect what y'all got going on.
You respect what we got going on, and we groove
together because it's big. Like I was saying, like I
told you on the phone, Hoover is a game. Five dudes,
folks trade. Those are the sets of the game. You
see what I'm saying, five nine one on selling all that.
Those are sets inside of a game, which is basically

(55:09):
a tree branch. Yeah, it's we're We're extension of Hoover.
Five deuce is extension of Hoover. So we crib game.
We can be a branch out of whatever you know
it is, because that ain't how we rock and cub.
We don't kill cribs now here. Now it's per personal
like it can be a crib and he done robbed you,

(55:31):
but we're not. We don't beef like that. That's personal.
Like as a gang. We get money together. We want
to get money together, and we want to get money
with the coney. We want to get money even to
stop six shut on my black money. Shout out my game.
You know what I'm saying. Shout out my boob. Real
they blood, but I put them tough. You see what

(55:53):
I'm saying. I put them because they with me tough
and this love. Shout out my mister, because it's love
and respect no matter what's sill of time. That's how
we rock down here. It's all about respect. It ain't
about what's side of town you from or what set
you claim? It's about respect and that green dollar bill.
You see what I'm saying now, it's the blue strips.
We all now, Now that's about in blue strips. You

(56:13):
know what I'm saying. Like, that's all that matter. Cuse,
So the politics from where they from and where we're from,
it's gonna change because we don't. Our city don't groove
how y'all groove up there. Our city ain't maybe not
as slow as fast as y'all city up there. So
we are adjusting to how our city move cause we're

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not you. You just it's just about respect, cause you
gotta respect it. Cul I'm lending out a hand of respect,
like say, cult, I respect what you got going on, criminal, gangster,
whatever the you is. I'm leanding out a hand of respect.
But what I'm telling you is respect what I got
going on. Don't get on this internet talking about yo,

(56:55):
fake and you all that, because that's gonna I'm gonna
take that this disrespect because I got real homies that
broke what I'm saying, and got real hommies just like
y'all all up there, got homies that died about this
and that's why y'all riding away. Y'all. It's the same here, Cole.
So you really just got to respect the story, respecting
the timeline to where how he got to where he

(57:17):
is today and leave it at that. All speaking on
the Hoover business and how we gonna get it right,
we can do that. You can hit the line cut y'all.
Can hear trouble. I'm in the hood. You can hear
the hen up. He in the hood. We real homies
in the hood. You know what I'm saying, got real
that's still in the hood. Cuse fast. All the bro
real that know what they talking about, know what they're

(57:41):
doing down here, and we can have a indeed about this.
We since this cranked up real tune, it's been arguments
in the hood every day about this cool. Yeah, yeah,
we understand. Yeah this on the phone with arguing about it,
really argument, but with debate like we doesn't put in

(58:03):
work with the O G personhood. You said what I'm saying, man,
it's like I said, it's that they're not already changed
and say they got their trucks laced up and win GC.
Now that's cool, I mean, but in real game politics
y'all not official GC members unless you got put down

(58:24):
by somebody from GC. Ain't no blessing. I don't even
want to get I don't even want to say I
blessed in trouble over the phone. That's what me, or
came from Cali and told me, ain't no such thing.
It's this and not just automatically switch because from CALLI
said that, now we gotta sit down and talk. We

(58:46):
gotta sit down the top. You get your fifty two seconds,
just like yeah, get the fifty two just like I did.
You know what I'm saying. And that's like I said,
I'm willing to go to Calian get get put on.
But when I get put on, I'm I'm letting them
still gonna say. I'm getting put on for CG. Y'all
gotta approve this shit. I'm getting put on for CG.

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I ain't ducking o Fat sent them here. I'm getting
put on for CRIP game though, making sure that my
my hood is honorable across the map, like nah the damp,
that's it. Even if it you know, even if it
don't come to that, to what we can have a
conversation with, like Duke already said, that it's some of
the homies out of the caddle, like, Yo, they with it.

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It ain't no controversy about it. Y'all stamped. It's cool,
but it's not publicized. It's not in the public eye
that that's what it is, because there's so many steady
saying y'all wrong, and y'all cripping wrong, and y'all doing
this wrong, y'all doing that wrong. Nah, y'all respect to
respect it. Don't get on the phone saying you respect

(59:50):
it and then get on the internet saying, Nah, that
ain't right. No gonna do that, and if it come
up here soon, I'm gonna happen to them, and nah,
don't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
That.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
You can't do that ain't real money in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I feel like that that's been a lingering thing, right,
you know what I'm saying, Like y'all ain't got the
opportunity to really speak. Y'all's peace. But I feel like
in a way it was dying down until the situation
happened with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
No, I don't I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Feel like I feel like that with that, I feel like,
let me see because I don't watch the couple.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Okay, let me say this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
I feel like this when that turned it up just
a little notch. You know what I'm saying, because we
you know, Cub was offended. How he you know, got
up there and was miss mistreated. You know what I'm saying,
what I tell you on the phone last night. Uh,
it wasn't my intentions on meeting Gumpy like this. You
know what I'm saying. I want to it won't. I
wanted to be with genuinely love. You know what I'm saying,

(01:01:01):
I ain't want to meet him like this. You know
what I'm saying, I want.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
To meet um.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
I'm saying I watched the interview where you know, Bob
essentially told Percy that you know they went afterwards gonna
be dropped them off like they were cool. They was
on the phone together.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
It's the thing that I'm saying, like, Bro, that's that's
internet politics. We don't want that. I'm not. I'm not
I'm not looking for no validation over the internet. Look,
that's like this too.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
If okay, say you say, hey oooh, y'all, come do
this with me today, you know what I'm saying, so
we can get you outside story.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
Then we get here, it's a hundred we gonna we we.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Might decide to fight our way out of here, or
we might decide to play safe and uh, you know,
get get up out of here. You know the best
way to get up out of here. You know what
I'm saying, It might play I might change and he
out of bounds. Bro, he waves up, he waded, Bro,
he had a bounce, So you know what I'm saying. However,
the homie played it to get back to his room. Bro.

(01:02:10):
That's okay, Bro, you out of bounds. It's you and
a hundred other news And I don't know who took
you out there. But yeah, he was in violation too,
you know what I'm saying, because once all that happened,
the camera dropping out that you know what I'm saying,
This is my partner.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
I brung him here with him, you know what I'm saying.
That's how that should go down here and then let
me speak on it, like I wouldn't even say, okay,
I wouldn't say it was dying down because maybe on
the internet. But at the same time, like it's a
lot of controversy because how can I put this without

(01:02:47):
making the saying round Like cub can't speak, CUK can't
speak for everybody like like Gumpy, no disrespect, but you
nine dudes, we speaking on what fied Dukes, how far
Duke's gonna come together and make a change. We ain't
speaking on whover were speaking on the set? Who is
the game? Is the set? So I wouldn't say it's

(01:03:07):
don down because Yeah, after that interview, it was a
lot of controversy in the hood, in the inner circles
of the hood of the homies, and that no Kunter
and saying he shouldn't have went up there and hollered
at them in the first place, or saying niggas should
have handled Dumpy about it, how he was talking and
all that Like to me when I watched the interview,

(01:03:30):
codes really Dumpy really trying to control the narrative. You're
trying to control the narrative of the of the situation.
And that ain't that ain't just how two men speak.
You know, you give this man his chance to talk,
You give me my chance to talk with I couldn't

(01:03:52):
bring him and cause a lot of n.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
He's already there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
It made me to really know what's going on, want
to be like man, hell no, they need to be
checked about that ship, like need to be need to
real life be checked.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
The hen cult because if you're really speaking on game politics.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Well to my knowledge, to my knowledge, to my knowledge, Bob.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
Whatever what was going on? And hold on?

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Can I clear you're cleared up? Because because Gummy didn't
bring him out, gum By stays in Vegas. He's already okay,
well whoever the six seven he's when he told him?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
You know what I'm saying, because you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Agree that you know that I got a problem with
want to understanding before I should have been well to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
My knowledge, to my knowledge, to my knowledge, Bob, you
know told what was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
This?

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
All I'm saying is this afterwards you back doing the
interview when Bob, are you saying he said you want
but you're still doing interviews? So is it some internet like?
Because it's issue is the internet having real life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
For you?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
But that's that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Issue.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
He's the one, he's the one in violation if you
didn't tell me that before we left Texas.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
And so all this is all I'm saying is this,
But afterwards you back doing interviews? Are you saying but
internet like? My issue is the internet be having real
life implications and so like you're gonna be Internet when
it's convenient for you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
But that what I'm saying this day, I don't got
to say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
I just like.

Speaker 3 (01:05:48):
Ya, ya don't have the business like that. Cuse that
ain't no real. That ain't no that ain't no g
that's mart we know that way. This ain't no Internet.
Like speaking on that ship you you shouldn't. That shouldn't
even been on the internet. Could if they was gonna
have that conversation, they should have had that conversation there.

(01:06:08):
Because now it's like you now, yeah you want it
now you're making it seem like Coulter sucker, l a
run a sucker and all this like how you handling
it like on the Internet like it should have been.
It should have been off after camera like you don't.
You don't get on no Internet and talk reckless about it.
Oh because it looked like a bunch of set. You're

(01:06:31):
putting insurance on yourself because if feel up about that
and to come get at you, the first person that
gonna look at is cool thing. Hell l a run
if a feel about it, I don't know, I ain't them,
but you don't Ya don't get up and you don't.
You don't. Now that's it's cool. You could tell culture
that behind cameras, though, but.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Don't get on the internet and aggressive knowledge, aggressive knowledge,
you don't speak on stay out of my business.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
And y'all don't do nothing like that. Because if I'm
speaking on something and anither come at me like that,
I'm I'm I'm ready. I don't even want to talk
no more. I'm ready to look at something. I'm ready
to look at it. I don't even we quit talking.
We keep quit talking and let you let your hands
do the punching. You know what I'm saying, do the
conversating for us. Like but in that sense, cause you

(01:07:23):
don't all that. The whole conversation shouldn't have been on camera.
Y'all supposed to have like okay, like me and you
had a phone call last night. Right now, I'm coming
to you on your internet, and we just clean it up.
No aggression, no, no disrespect, no nothing. We already had
this conversation. You and Bro had the conversation. He didn't

(01:07:44):
want to say it, you band, but y'all had a
manly conversation and now it's love and respect. That's how
you handle that cause you you you do all the
other away from the away from the cameras if you
gonna do that, because if you was gonna do that,
you should walk right right right up on cause they
could have don't don't have that in my business. Don't

(01:08:05):
wait till you get on the cameras and woo woop
this and wo woop that, like you don't. You don't
have no business like that. Cud that ain't no real g.
That ain't no that ain't no g. That's mart and
you you really you're really playing a dangerous game because

(01:08:27):
what if a do feel so disrespected that they do
something to you could Yeah, that's what I said, you
controlling the narrative in the situation and you raising your
hands and talking. But maybe that's how that's Maybe that's
how man rhythms and caddy, that's if that's how it is.
And respect that. But when I get the checking with

(01:08:50):
my Texas mentality and my manor rhythms, you gotta you
gotta roll with it like I rolled with it. Come
So all that's really in the you know, just being
you know, long story short, that shouldn't have been on
on the on the internet. Pig counter. I don't even
know you like that. No disrespect because you shouldn't even
been up there trying to speak on this. You gotta

(01:09:11):
let the real homies that. You know what I'm saying,
I fuck Colt twice with them. I don't know you
saw it. Ain't no disrespecting I'm not saying. But yeah, man,
you shouldn't even shouldn't even had that conversation with Cub bro.
But like I told you, when we come to the section, Cub,
come down here to the hood, bro, and see how
we grew. Check it out like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Here, see how we grew the same night we did
the video of me, you know, banding you. Like I
told Coonca that night. Uh, they ain't mad at you
for going up there and uh, you know doing your job,
mad at you for not knocking this out when he
stood up on you. That's what I was mad at, Cudfo.
You know what I'm saying, because that was me. You

(01:09:54):
know what I'm saying. They would just have to do
what they were gonna do. And then you slick talking
on something. Yeah, like y'all y'all following our way because
y'all love how we do. We don't even I don't
even know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
No Cally like that. I don't. I don't love what
y'all do. I love to sitting. I love if I
Hooland this is what I inherited, this is what I
came in. I don't do this because Cally doing it.
I don't do this because Streetport doing it right next
to me and the above me did it. And this

(01:10:27):
is what I want to do because I got loved.
I got a little for it. This what burned me
when I left out my mama dog, I was in
hooland when I left after, when I left out of
school on school days, I was in Houveland. I'm at
the handie store, I'm at the Basic Stove, I'm up
and down Hattie Lula Kennon, I'm up and down these
streets walking Rod and Bike's doing whatever. That's what made

(01:10:47):
me love the hood. You see what I'm saying now,
because no, no, no, street Port did it. Bro So,
when I'm not trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Groove like y'all, not just trying to connect with your
You're trying to connect with y'all to have a mutual
respect for y'all and for us.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
A lot of money out here, y'all can do what
y'all do with there. We don't. We ain't EBK, we
ain't criminal. We with the cribs. We love cribs. I
love crib. I'm a crib and just like for them
to be to say I ain't a crip. I respect that,
but I'm a crib. Cub. You can't disrespect that. Respect that,
you can't disrespect it, cub. And I don't see how you,

(01:11:28):
like I said before, I don't see how you need
five dukes hoo's a criminal and fied dukes gangst the
crib with the same say they kill cribs. How you
a crib on the same set with another set, I mean,
on the game with another game that say they kill cribs.
How does that even make sense? How does that even

(01:11:51):
make sense? Cuse to even be on the interview you
on the podcast with say I'm a criminal ABK, But
this right here he fired his gangster crib and y'all
y'all agreeing and and high five with about some others
that ain't some cg like no you that's wiled me.

(01:12:12):
You know what I'm saying, Do what y'all do, that's
how y'all do it. But we're gonna do what we
do there here. Cut. But it's just it's a respect.
I ain't cut looking with respect. Cut, and it's gonna
be giving or its gonna take it or it ain't.
It ain't gonna be nothing. It ain't you know, it
ain't even gonna be spoken up. Goddamn and get in
contact with you. Yeah, but y'all can always get in

(01:12:35):
contact with him, like some or like my nefasts always
say cut. I don't mind getting school. I don't mind
getting school cut about something that know what they talking about. Cut,
But you can't handle me. You can't. You can't. The men.
It's nothing that I undid or nothing that this hood
did because you can't. It ain't no way you can

(01:12:55):
take for for a work. We can change this. We
can start bagging Riverside Eagles. It's still gonna be named
Hooverland and when you pull up the certain sections, it's
gonna be in huland I'm over here in Houbland. So
it don't it don't matter. Cook may just respect that cult,

(01:13:15):
respect for it, putting down respect the law that la
we all grooving, we all streaming of for our dudes. Cut.
Just respect it. That's all it takes for you to
show respect to it. Come like I heard, but I
did hear say like, we don't have a problem with y'all.
Need you know doing what y'all do. We just the
knowledge and that's cool. We might be mislayed on the

(01:13:37):
knowledge of cripping, right, We cripping hard to be crippling,
legit everything legit stilled the knowledge of how cripping been
going and that. But we in a different different demographic
than y'all cout We in Texas, y'all in La. Y'all
don't come down here and send no kites and no messages.
We don't come up there and send no kites and
no messages. So it's gonna be a miscommunication. And how dude,

(01:14:00):
and work what's best for them. It's gonna that's what
it's gonna do, just like y'all do up there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
We're gonna say what'mot thing though, ato ain't nothing sweeter texts,
ain't nothing sweet to you.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
The only thing turn chick get their tea and sweet.
Ain't nothing sweet down here, man, like this. That's just
how it goes, cause it's real. Ruthless, ain't real told
this the real money in the room