August 30, 2025 • 68 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This dude used to kiss them.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Them dudes bruh, you know, and that that ain't cool.
And under no circumstances. They're not your biological children. I
don't care how you feel in your mind about them,
but you know you just don't kiss.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Another little boy in the mouth. They that was pure manipulation.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Like weal told this, the real money in the room.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I don't so I a as we prepare to wrap
up right when you go on tour with cash money,
Cause y'all still working even after Yellow's death. Right, So
y'all are still working with them after Yellow's death and
y'all are touring. At what point does Wayne and Beg
(00:45):
start coming around?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Nah Man?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeller died toward the end in ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, So Wayne and Beg showed up, you know, in
the beginning, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So they they was they had been around. Cause if
you but Wayne, Wayne.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Showed up and then his father or his mother, I
don't know the exact which one, but they pulled him back.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So that's why you don't.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hear Wayne on all those early UNLV records, But you
hear BG on all those early UNLV records. MM.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So when Wayne finally showed back up, you know, it
was I was fortunate enough to uh be present and
be active on his very first time recording the studio,
which was the on the True Stories album. It was
called the BG the BG's True Story and it's a
song called f Big Boy, which was BG.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Wayne and myself.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It was a song by us Street that was the
first single, and that was that's when Wayne officially showed
back up, right, I I how.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Were they being around there being kind of young a
it was.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Man it it was like okay, okay, be okay, baby,
whatever you say, you know, whatever he told him to do,
he do it. You know, you know, man it, it
just was I I don't know. I never in my
life saw kids.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Be manipulated the way that they were manipulated.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
This dude used to kiss them.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Them dudes bruh, you know, and that that ain't cool.
And under no circumstances. They're not your biological children. I
don't care how you feel in your mind about them,
but you know, you just don't kiss another little boy
in the mouth. They that was pure manipulation, you know.
And uh, at some point you know, they had to
(02:50):
grow up out of that. But they he definitely used
to kiss them in the mouth, but not all of 'em,
see he he didn't. He wasn't kissing Juvie in the mouth.
He wasn't kissing Turk in them out. But he had
the most control over Wayne and BG.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Fortunately, Wayne grew up out of that and uh, you know,
start doing his own thing.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
But so you saw him kiss them? What because we
seen him kiss Wayne? Now he used to kiss BG too.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Not BG.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
BG's againster boy, he's the you know what I'm saying,
the muscler cash.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Wayne Nah Nah, you know you know that I mean
from what I've seen, From what I see, it's like,
you know, just that this prison beg goes back to
what I'm saying, Tune.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You can go in the studio the same way a
lot of these dudes on our YouTube and Instagram could
sit behind their computer their keyboard and become who they
want to be. When you go in that studio, you
could become who you wanna be and sound like who
you want to be. You know, I've saw on my mother.
(04:02):
If I'm lying, let the ceiling fall.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I saw with my own eyes. Bird Man opened his
hand and slapped a shit of BG, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
For bringing Gangster around.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
One night?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
What we on We getting ready to go to a
uh A show at our meeting place used to be
his uh Birdman and Slim step Mom's house on uh
on uh Valence and Magnolia. We would always meet there.
We would either leave our cars there, jump in some
(04:34):
vands or UH bus or whatever. Uh. We all pile
up in our cars and follow each other to wherever
we going.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But that was our meeting place.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And on this particular night, BG pulls up with Gangster.
And I remember this like it was yesterday. Man Birdman said,
look our dougate, say duge ga come up. And when
he called him over there, and he finally came over there,
he opened his hand.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And popped him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Pop told you about bringing him out, asks me, and
he was talking about Gangster and I, man, it's crazy, girl,
it's crazy. I saw that with my own my own eyes.
Ain't nobody told me this. You feel what I'm saying?
So when it when it? You know, when he talk
all that m C M Artists and that that one
thing i'm'a tell you about O G giggity when he
(05:21):
say it's a a cash money channel, it.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Is to a certain point.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know, he only got so much rope because he's
still in uh close contact with him. That's how he
gets to know some some inside stuff sometimes. But you know,
I like to troll him the same way he liked
to troll me. And in one of my trolls t
towards him is I call him a side piece. And
my reason calling him a side piece is because, uh,
(05:52):
he's not allowed to be in public. He's not allowed
to be publicly acknowledged by any of them.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But he does talk.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
To him definitely, but they not gonna be seen with him.
They not gonna take a picture with him or none
of that because of how he came home.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So that's my little, my little inside joke with him.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know, I call him side piece Williams, side piece Williams.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh g Giggley man h.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So n k y.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
You watch them come in as like kids and get
manipulated in the sense spot uh bird man.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, I've seen him, you know, that's that's I saw.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I saw the manipulation, just like uh, I made a
I made a video earlier today and I talked about
how after a concert, when it's time to get paid,
Birdman with hand beg a hundred a hundred one dollar bills.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And and that's the kind of manipulation and and that
I I witness, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Just like.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
They some young kids, but you making them believe it's
cool to let me kiss you in.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The mout You know, No, I ain't.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I ain't saying there was tongue kissing and nothing like that,
but just you know, yeah, come here, give me a kiss.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
But in New Orleans, I believe I was told that
may be cool.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
No, I don't know whoever told you, whoever told you that.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
They're a lie lie lie like a dog.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So that's not going on in the ord, nah man.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Nobody about to be kissing each other.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Man, Okay, I'm just saying, we saw it on TV.
You know what I'm saying. So it's not like it's not.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Like that's That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The TV will twist your man. The TV if you
if you don't.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Have because where were their parents, they were.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
They were trusted with bird Man and snow, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So they were they were trusted.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And when a person is sick in the mind, they'll
try all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Just like the those parents.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Would uh send their uh their kids to r Kelly,
you know, hoping they they finna be stars or whatever,
and r Kelly just popping them, them young ladies, you
know what I'm saying, allegedly, but you know they you
know them, you know them dudes.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Moms and pops sent.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Them, and like you know, they about to be some stars.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They already see that. These guys just slickside hood rich.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So you know, they send him Tom And you know,
when a person messed up in the head, you know
you he you gotta be a different type of person
to think it's cool to kiss a young man in
the mouth.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Right, Well, a after you see him give him the
hundred dollars in ones fat bank roll, he what do
y'all tell him?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
We tell 'em he supposed to be getting more than that, right,
We tell him what to say and what to aks for,
and uh he turns around and instead of him standing
up for hisself, he goes and telling him tacking yellow said,
you beat me out my money. I'm spost to get
(09:11):
some And.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So instead of you know, just accing.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Man, Look, this ain't enough I need that's such and
such y n nah.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Hm Man that that that's that's wild to hear. Alright, Man,
Today on Real Tone TV, we got a New Orleans
legend hip hop pioneer Tech nine of unlv aka Flex.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
How you feeling feeling good?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Man? It's uh, it's great to finally lock in with you. Man.
I I I've been studying your.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Work, m you know, and.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Of course I uh just jumped off the porch where
where the some podcasting and you know, storytelling, and I
you know, I kind of you know, picked up a
few pointers from you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So it's okay.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's a good day for me to even lock in
with you. Brother.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Well, when I tell you you have some of the
best content right now going out of New Orleans, I
think if you stay consistent and you stay down with
what you have going on, you will be one of
the biggest to do it, not just in New Orleans,
but you know, all over this ear internet thing.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So I'm excited about today and I'm hoping we can
get a lot of history because one of the things
that I'm really into is making sure that we.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Get the history, and we get it accurately, right, right, So.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Just tell me, let's just start from the top, right,
because everybody I think knows about U n LV, one
of the first cash money artists to kind of do it,
especially at scale.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
But prior to that, where are you from?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm from I'm from New Orleans. I'm from Uptown New
Orleans for Mean project. That's why I was born and
raised at and Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I stayed there until I was like twelve years.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Old, and my mom uh married my dad when I
was like twelve, and my dad moved us out of there.
So that's when. At that point, that's when we moved
on six and Baron, which is also the name of
our first album. So uh, but basically, I'm I'm an
uptown baby man, you know, from the Meltha Mean to
(11:31):
six and B mal for me, raised me and six
and B bread me.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And so so you out that mouth, I'm out the mouth. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
So at what point do you start rapping? Meet little
yard meat yellow boy?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Uh? Right after I moved out the melth Uh, I
met Lil Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
We both we liked three months apart in age, so.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
We like going on twelve, right, right, so we started,
you know, doing talent shows and realized that we were
we had a uh common interest, which was the band
and music, and eventually we started doing talent shows together
and uh, you know it went from there. That's exactly,
that's really where our music started from doing talent shows
(12:22):
in junior high school, Carter G.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Wilson, Okay, in junior high school. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So at what point the do you start to get
recognized by Bertman?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Uh, like seventeen eighteen years old, because, uh, after the
talent shows we got we we got a little bit discouraged, bruh,
cause you know, we was winning first place and every
talent show that we entered, and and then the radio
station gave a talent show and first prize was supposed
to be a trip to New York and a record deal,
(12:57):
right right. It was a lie they did. They didn't
do what they said they was gonna do. So it
discouraged us and made us back down for a little bit. Now,
mind you, this is our teen years you know, eleven, twelve,
thirteen years old, fourteen years old. So later on down
the line, uh, we started being old enough to sneak
(13:19):
in clubs, you know, we really wasn't old enough to
be in there, but we was old enough to look
like we old enough.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
To be in there, right, So we we s sneaking.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
In and out the clubs, and you know, DJ Jimmy
and T Tucker songs was popping, and the DJs had
figured out a way to keep repeating the the trigger
Man sound and and uh the show boys uh sounding.
You know, we call it trigger man in New Orleans.
And uh, we eventually started grabbing a mic and free styling,
(13:49):
and you know, during the course of us freestyling, the
DJ secretly records us, right uh huh, and as see,
we never knew he recorded us.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So the f we we go back to.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The uh to the club, and the DJ puts on
the recording of of me and Yai and the club
going crazy right right.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So after that, we we feel like we had something.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So we just asked him to make us a copy
of the tape, give us a copy of it. We
go to uh the local drug store, buy a bunch
of packs of cassettes, and we make cassettes copies and
copies and copies, and uh we selling them for five
dollars out of the car. And now Eventually Birdman and
Slim got their hands on a copy of it and
(14:37):
contacted us.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Okay, okay, okay, So how how was that?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You know, you you meet Birdman, you meet Slim, You're
seventeen eighteen, you know what I'm saying, how was that?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Just walk us through that?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Uh, to be honest with your manner, w you know,
coming from where I'm from, we we we just were
so used to seeing that and trauma and drama, you know,
it was it was kind of refreshing to run across
somebody that was willing to help us with with our dream, right,
So you know, we automatically looked up to him, you know,
(15:13):
but at the same time, we felt like we was
connecting with two dough boys who was just trying to
clean their stuff up, you feel me. But we trusted them,
you know, We trusted them and believed in them the
same as they did with us in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
M No, people have to understand right that this wasn't
the bird Man and Slim that we know.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
This ain't stunner. No, you know what I'm saying, This
ain't stunner right here, this is this.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Is baby baby right right. But with Slim, it was
still slim. Slim been the same way from day one
to right to this day. He just gets smarter as
he go, but he never you know, his character, it
never did change, right, Right?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
What was different about them then than them now?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Uh? I think the difference between them back then and
now is they are definitely more educated about what they
doing than what they were back then.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know, back then it.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Was like let's get out the streets, clean his money
up and uh, you know, get to it. I wanna
do something legal, but it was like a learn as
you go. But now I I think they did, you know,
doing well with what they know? Right?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And and how old were they around the South?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Let me see, my.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I would have to say if I was like eighteen,
they probably was like twenty three, twenty two, twenty three,
you know what I'm saying, Cause Hee very Man is
like a few years older than I am, right, you know,
maybe three or four years older than I am.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And and and so who who at this time outside
of UNLV was signed to Cash Money.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Uh. When we got to the label, you had two
artists which was Kelog and pmw.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Okay, So this is before Wayne, Yes, before Juvie, Yes,
before Turk Yes, before BG Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So this is.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Before the cash money that we know today.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Before the cash money that you know today. L Like
I said, when we when we arrived, it was klog
which was they first artist, and PMW which was they
second artist, and then UNLV Uh they found us.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Now I suppose they took a liking to you when
they found you, because at some points you move and
you start living with Berlin.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Right right right.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, we was kind of close in the beginning, and.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
You know, uh, they they kind of cleaned to me.
I guess they liked in my character or whatever. And
and uh also you know I was so invested into
the music, you know, and they were so invested into
getting to that next level. I was the one who
was like, you know, I'm ready to go all the time.
You know what I'm saying, studio studio, studio.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So you know they.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Saw that in me and was like just grabbing put
me under they wing.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Okay, how was it when you was, you know, at
their house?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Ah, it really was.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
We We never was there.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
We always was on the on the road going drop
off music, uh, pick up chicks. You know. It was
like when we get to the house, it's nighttime. It's
time to shower and go to bed and wake up.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The next day, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So it really wasn't a whole lot of time spent
at the.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
House right now, Now, there was one time at the
house where you saw Baby and Slim get into a altercation.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, definitely, definitely. So so man, look it's crazy, brother,
because my guy, my guy tried to discredit my story.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But he you know, he don't have no even.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Uh he he he don't, he can't even he can't
discredit it because he wasn't there. It was myself, Slim
and Baby at the house.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So the way it used to go.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Is, man, Slim is like legally blind, right, he not
blind what he needed cane or stick what he's legally
blind not, you know, meaning he can't drive, So somebody's
always got the show for him around and during that
time it was just him and baby, you know what
I'm saying. Right, So Birdman, uh would we'll me and
(19:44):
we'll be gone all day, you know, taking care of
business and taking care of music and stuff like that,
dropping off, picking up, and then uh, at the end
of the day, we'll drop Slim off and then me
and Birdman I hang out and go. You know, he
might drop me by one of my broads.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Uh uh, We'll go on teams.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Some bras or whatever, gonna get drink.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
During that time, it was like alexand Tango Ray that's
what That's what our drink was.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So we'll be doing our thing. But at the end
of the night, we would always be you know, we
would be responsible for bringing Slim food home. You know
what I'm saying. That's if we didn't stop before we
drop him off.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
If we drop him off early, you know what I'm saying, Uh,
he'll eat and then you know, when we come in
at night, we'll bring.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Him some more food.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
But during this time, man, uh uh, you know, we
took a real long time making it back to the house.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And Slim was pissed.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
He was pissed, you know. Gu Like I said, uh
saying in the priv uh video, Slim love McDonald's, love Popeyes.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And there there was a little spot called we Never Close.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Out there in the east, not too far from where
they used to live at And man, we come home drunk,
you know, playing around with them broads, and Slim fired up.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So Slim was like, where are my food. With that,
he go to talk and fly to bird Man. Let
bird Man talk and fly back to him.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Before you know it, you know, Slim took off on him.
Slim took off on bird Slim took off on him,
got him one end pop and uh, they passed a
few lads. Didn't fight hard, but they passed a few lads.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
But the argument was.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Harder than to fight. You know, give me go, get
the check book, give me my half. The argument was
worser than the neo fight, you know what I'm saying.
But uh, like I said before, man, the awkward part
about it is, you know, nobody wasn't never Slim or
bird Man and myself, and if any one of them
(21:48):
was to see this, they probably dying laughing because they
know that this happened. And uh, you know, like I said,
nobody else couldn't speak on this to say if it's
the truth or like or nobody else wasn't there, you
know what I'm saying. So, uh, you know the crazy part,
we never spoke about it amongst each other, you know,
between the three of us, we never spoke about it.
(22:08):
But uh, you know they definitely knew what happened, you know, right,
right right, right right, So.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Unlv right, y'all, y'all start getting big and somebody else
who comes along as Mystical.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
At at what point, because.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Y'all had some distance back and forth, at what point
did y'all get into it with Mystical man?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
To be honest with you, were Mystical.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Mystical was a long time friend of ours right from
from high school, from ninth grade to twelfth grade til
we all graduated. Kay, So Mystical went graduated maybe a
year or two before us, right, but then he went
away to the Armed Forces, whichever branch she was in.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So when he came back from.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The Armed Forces, uh, we was already in there. You know,
we got New Orleans on on lock popping. So he
pulls up I think he uh, you know, he was
finished with his little tour or whatever military tour, and
he came in, was like, man, I introduce me to
(23:28):
your people, blah blah blah blah, this that and that
and that part didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So he came back.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And was letting us know that he and hooked up
with some other record label in the city and that
he wanted to diss us to get some traction. You know,
so me and me and Yai and myself, we agreed
to let him do it, and you know that was that.
But the thing about it was Yellow wasn't present at
(23:59):
that time when we agreed to let him diss us and.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
When he did this us, Yellow took it personal.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But see, the the other thing about Yell is he
really didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
He didn't care about, Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
We gonna keep this in the streets and I mean
keep this on the records and da da da da
da street Yellow, you know, he was like, you play
with me, you know, it's it's on goal. So he
didn't care that we agreed. In his mind, it's like,
all right, I got him. So it really was more
beef with Yellow.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And Mystical than it was with Mystical.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, in tech, you feel what I'm saying because we
we consciously agreed to let him do that.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Right, But but he uses Yellow's lines.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
When he uses Yellow lines, you know, he never gonna bounce,
never gonna bow because that was the you know how
it go. When you at the top, they're gonna come
for at the was at the top. Yeah, so Yellow
had one of the hottest dances out and yeah, he
he he took a jab at Yellow, you know, kind
of first.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Right, So this takes place and it eventually gets pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, h how bad did it get?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Man, it got so bad to.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Uh, if Mystical was to ride through our neighborhood, the
little kids in the neighborhood would throw rocks and bottles
and stuff at his truck.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Get from around here, Get from around here.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
If Yellow was driving in his truck and Mystical and
he spot Mystical just driving through the neighborhood, Yellow gonna
chase him, you know, and you know, try to make
him wreck or run into him or you know. It
just was it was on goal with him, with with
that situation, and it got so bad to when uh
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mystical sister lost her life and Yellow lost his life.
These boat were blamed, you know, because of what the
fans listening to. So the fans would be like, man,
the Mystical really killed Yellow, the Yellow really killed Mystical,
Uh sister. That's the questions we would be asked every
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time we would go on the road outside of New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Right, So so wr running r run that just a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
So when Mystical's sister is you know, deleted right.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
RP.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yellow boy is blamed, and I'm told he wasn't just
you know, blamed, but he actually got arrested.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, Uh, he he got detained, not arrested like whereas
you arrested in charge. But he was detained. We both
were detained because we all when you saw him, you
saw me. When you saw me, you saw him. But uh,
once we got detained, they didn't. Uh they allowed me
to leave, but I didn't leave until they y I
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was gonna see if he they gonna keep him or
let him go.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But he was detained in question. But uh, nothing came
from it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Because the blessing about this whole thing, because it could
have went way worse than that. The blessing about it
is that the guy who did do it confessed to
doing it right right, So that kind of freed him
up right there. But I don't think if that guy
would have wouldn't have confessed that, it probably would have
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been a little bit more harsher than it was.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
So I and and how just to for there's a
point of clarification, how were y'all even in a situation
to where y'all getting detained for like a murder situation.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
The streets, man, the the streets will have you jammed up,
just the streets talking and the fans, you know, just
by the fans will you know, as sometimes the fans
would literally take what you're saying in the record and
you know, take that as if that's what it really is.
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And in this case, that's what really happened.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Bro, You in Yellow like back then it was cool
to do heroin to us.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And to do our mind.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, in our mind right.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But uh we paid for it. We you know, he
paid for it with his life and I paid for
it with my help.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
M you know, yeah, how how was it back then?
Like tell me about him?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Like Yellow Boy?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Uh so it was this big old myth that if
you snart a bag of boy that you gonna popa
girl all night none stop. That old thing ain't gonna
never go down. So that's what initially drew us in
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to try it, mm right, and y uh.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's true, It's definitely true.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But what they don't tell you is after doing it
for so long, your body become your body start needing
me needing it right, right, And uh that's what ultimately
happened to Yellow in myself. We we would do do
hair on every day, every day, every day, and then
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just on that one day that we going to try
to find some and maybe our little plug ain't there whatever,
and we gotta wait a few hours. Now we start
to feeling sick. And now that's when it. You know,
you realize that you gotta have it. But y, it's
hard to hold on. It's hard to realize that you
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have a habit when you riding around and the flies
cars and you got the flies clothes and jewelry and
pockets full of money. So it's hard for you to
even look at yourself as a junkie, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And y'all were like junkies with with money.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's that's what I would call it.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Man, if I'm gonna be totally transparent with you, with
you and with the people who watching this, I would
call myself a junkie with money or definitely. And you
don't un You don't know that until you you know
your minding is clear and your body is clean. You
don't realize until you step outside of yourself and see
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somebody else and you identified with what they doing. You
were like shit, I used to do the same thing
you know, bruh, you realize you wasn't no different. So
if you were a conscious enough person and a smart
enough person, you you be like I was just like that.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So now there was a time where y'all were going about.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Y'all's day, or you per se were going about your
day and you were looking for some boy, and you
pull it up to.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
The Magnolia right right, and you see hot boys stirling.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, but before before we even go into that, tell
me a little bit about the hot boys, Like who
were they?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
This was the original hot boys before the rest.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The original hot boys, in my opinion, were really just
some jack boys. You know. They were known more for
jagging and beefing and having shootouts than they were for
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being on that money kick You feel what I'm saying
now down the line, toy, it's the end gangster. He
started getting some money, you know, but really you know, uh.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Sterling Mosquito.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Hot, Dooney Dooney wound up getting to the money too.
But Sterling Mosquito Hot, they never really was on no money,
k They just you know, they beefing and shooting out
and you know, people popping at them, They popping at people,
and you know they jacking and you know that's that's
what the hot boys was that I saw coming up uptown, you.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Know, right, so you're going to get some boy from
the Magnolia, right and uh, Sterling's there, so tell me
about that.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So I pull up and annoy you, right, and uh,
I'm once it was my go to guy. So he
wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Normally, we if we uh, if if we going in
the project and and we can't running in to him,
it would uh we would normally his moms would let
us inside or whatever. And but uh, this particular time
he wasn't there. I didn't get out and go. I
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you know, I didn't see my other little partner, Clauda
b down the street going toward Louis down.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I didn't see him.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
S okay, so what what happened when you pull up?
You know, looking for the boy?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So alright, normally, O G Giggitty, that was my go
to a guy, you know, Yellow and myself, we would
go to him to uh and get what we needed. Right,
So this particular day, he wasn't out there, and we
didn't see moms or nothing like that. You know, Well,
I I said we, but it was I was by
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myself this day, and you know, I made the block
after I I didn't see Clauda b either.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So I made the block and come back around.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Uh open maybe gangs to come outside or whatever, but
he never showed up. So when I made the block,
I see Sterling right. So Sterling flagged me down and uh,
he was like, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
We well, uh what gangst that? You know, he was
like he he done.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
He coming back though, But I got it, you know,
so I I'm like, oh, okay, cool, give me a
give me a grand, give me a g So.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I hand him my money and uh, he goes in
the in the hallway. I didn't Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I'm thinking maybe he gonna go in the house or
uh uh I you.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Know, he coming right back out.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But he started taking long mm and they really raised
my suspicion because I never messed with him on that
tip anywhere.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
You know most of the time.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You know, he was known for jacking. But I by
him by me knowing that they was closely associated. I'm thinking,
maybe you know, he left it with him, he don't
wanna miss out on the money or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So when he finally came back out, he handed it
to me.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And you know, I'm you know, most of the time,
you ain't thinking nobody about to pull off nothing. So
I just grab what I grab that boom, I'm gone.
I uh our heads down the street and you know,
make a little quick stop, come back in, try to
get me a little bump. And when I open it up,
I realized this food and hit me.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Off with some brown sugar.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So man, it's crazy because, uh, you know, as I'm
about to really turn around and go back, which was
probably gonna be a uh uh a bad decision because
you know, I already know these dudes don't care. They
don't have no you know, no heart, no sense for
for human life or none of that. He probably was
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gonna pop me if he saw me come back, pull up,
back up.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Cause he gonna he don't know what left I'm on.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
But uh, before I can turn and go back, Mosquito,
which is a very good friend of mine, we go
way way back and Mosquito. I see Mosquito going to
the store, and I stopped him and let him know
what's going on. And Mosquito wound up taking care of
the situation from me. You know, I gave him my car.
He took the the bad dope and the bad boy.
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And uh he actually went back to the uh to
him and got my money for him minus fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know, I gave him three hundred. I c I
wind up.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
With two fifty back.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So it is what it is though, right.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
So it's like, y'all are this rap group, but y'all
have like this street thing going on right now. Yello,
he throughout his tenure with cash Money, had issues with Berman.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah it.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
It was even said that a few fights happened. T
tell me about their relationship.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yellow and Burdman definitely didn't get along. Yellow always thought
that Birdman was up to no good, and Berdman always
felt like Yellow was just a little bit too cocky.
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You know.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yellow had a a.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Real bad habit of calling bird Man's hands. You know.
He would always be like, come on, let's do it,
let's do it, you know, and Birdman would just uh gracefully,
you know, bow out and just you know, played the
bigger role in that situation, right, So you know that
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would go on so much and so much and so
much man, And in my opinion, I really think that
Yeller thought bird Man was scared of him. And so it.
You know, if a person really not scary, it's gonna
come to a point where they they gonna wind up
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just being pushed too far and they gonna show you.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
And one day we was we were shooting a video
on Martin, Luther King and Clayborne. That's uptown. That's that's
like a landmark uptown. So, uh, everybody out there and
uh we shows up late, right, Yellow shows up even
later than Yai and myself, and uh once he got
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out there, once we all got out there, Birdman was
so mad.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
He was like, man, if.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
This uh uh video shoot, we ain't doing it and
this that and that and left them niggas bah blah
blah blah. So uh it came down to it to
where we was like, man, well take it in the hood.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You know, let's go back in the hood. We'm'a show you.
So Yellow Ad then called his hands again.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
So this time Birdman ain't back down because uh he
got all of his partners around that now, you feel me,
So he don't wanna look bad in front of all
his partners, so he went ahead and accept the fight.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And uh so once we got back in the hood
them to square off, and I could tell bird Man
they really wanna fight him because he never took a
step forward. He was just going backwards and backwards and
backwards and backwards.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You know it.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It really wasn't no hardcore fight. But Yeller definitely got
him because bird Man really he was more in defense
than he was trying to apply pressure. And during the fight, Uh,
Slim is you know, I'm tryna break the fight up, right,
So I hear a joke. I hear I heard the
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joke where uh yo oh Giggley said about uh yeah,
of all the people I could fight, I could fight Slim.
I tried everything in my power not to hit Slim.
Slim hit me at least three times before I finally
swung back my my My point in that fight was
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to the only reason I even got involved in that
fight was tryna stop Slim for jumping Yellow, cause Slim
was tryna jump in the fight where Yellow and while
Yellow and bird Man going one on one, and I'm
instead of going back up Slim chill, I'm tryna hold
him back, you know. And you see me looking up,
cause that's how it really is, looking up to him.
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Man back up, you know, get back, and he stead
of trying to s swing over me and get nick
on Yellow, but he missing Yellow and pop.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
He stead of popping me pop.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
He popped me like three times after that third time
like Slim, bruh, don't swing no more. He's still swinging
pop Man. Slim got some little bitty hands, right, some
little skinny.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Hands, and the Negs hurt you. You ain't you.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Catching all bones? What saying? So man, that that's what
made me ultimately hit Slim. It ain't like me and
Yellow against slimming and baby come on, man, come on.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Bruh man.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
But that's how the altercation wind up happening, you know,
right right right.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
So, so at some point I'm guessing Yellow Boy was
feeling played with, feeling like Birdman wasn't cutting checks, cut
the royalties, and he went to see about it. Yeah,
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And now I did an interview with Lil Y'ah of
a l UNLV and he.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Talked about it so on and so forth.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
But tell me what you know about that night, because
apparently this is what led up to.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yellow getting killed.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
So it was coming to the point where we was
getting ready to record more music and we saw the
huge the huge change in income when we dropped the
Uptown for Life album. You know, so just imagine, uh y,
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you know, you selling hundreds and hundreds of thousands of
copies on an independent level back then when music wasn't
being streamed.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
So we started, you know, we.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We wanted, you know, to uh renegotiate our contract and this, that,
that and the other.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
And they wasn't trying to have it. And I was
more on the level, like you know, less hire lawyer.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
But like I said, the same frame of mind yellow
head with the mystical situation, not really understanding it. He
had that same frame of mind, not wanting to wait
until okay, we find a lawyer and let a lawyer
deal with it and we can maybe renegotiate it like that.
He he took it up on hisself with uh one
of the little dudes he used to ride around with
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some time when he wasn't with me, and uh, he
goes and shoot they h shoot their house up. Shoot
they calls up.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
That was in front they house.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Mm you feel me? So you know, once he once
he went to that point, I was like, damn, you know,
the first thing came to my mind is like maybe
he too far gone on the dog. Let me try to,
you know, talk him into going to rehab. And that's
when I made the conscious decision to uh put myself
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in the rehab and I asksed him to come with me,
and uh, him and I had a argument, you know,
he didn't really wanna hear that rehab stuff like that,
you know, And so that's that's when I went to
the rehab. And maybe like after the second or third
day I was in there, boom, that's when he got
deleted w.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
A and well you ended up getting arrested for his
deletion or at least detailed, right.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
So me being in that rehab is what cleared me ultimately,
But I still stayed in jail like two three months
because my mind was so poison with drugs. I didn't
even realize that this is where I was until a
joke was made by a female that I was dealing with.
She made a voke like like how I get out
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the the rehab that night? And you know, cause I
I really took some furniture and threw it around, bro
get and made him put me out, you know what
I'm saying, Hm, And that's how I get out of
the rehab. But that's also how I.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I got out of out of jail. You know, I.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Wasn't formally charged for the the murder, but my probation
officer put a hole on me trying to get me
indicted for it. Right, So I'm sitting in prison all
this time, in jail, all in the count of jail,
all this time while he trying to work his case
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up on me. But once I f I I realized
and it the light went off and it dawned on
me that I was in the rehab. I had the
female to get me a lawyer, get me a court date.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I got the court, the.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Judge ordered the the clerk of court to call the rehab.
The rehab faxed over my paperworking. I got got released
right then and there.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Now all of this is happening, and you end up
going to Yellow Boy's funeral and what not?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
What d did you? You?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
You got to go?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah? I got to go?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
This g How was that?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
It was? It was really weird because that was like
the second person that I saw laying in the casket.
The first person I ever saw laying.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
In the casket was my.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
My pops, And the second person was Yellow boy, was
it a big funeral or yeah, it was a pretty
big funeral. And you know what always what always stuck
with me about yellow funeral? Uh, birdman and Slim showed
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up at the funeral with Islamic protection. You know how
you might have a.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
The the Muslims provide protection like security for people. I
don't know if y you might not.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Know that, but the NI it's called or show it
up with them.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
They showed up with them, and neither one of those
guys was a Muslim, but a l til they defense.
They started using them to be our security instead of like.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Regular boss guys.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
We would we would walk in concerts and reverer bohalleluja
with with the NI. But it was just strange to
me that they showed up at the funeral with the NI.
You know yeah, stayed maybe fifteen twenty minutes and then left.
So I think it was like a publicity showing if
you aksed me. You know, just certain things stick with
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me in my head, you know, right, right.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
You actually went viral, right Unfortunately I didn't get to
see the live.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I just got to see everybody talking about it.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah, essentially, you address the rumors that Berdman had something.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
To do with.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yellow Boys deletion. Okay, what's your perspective on that? Like,
what did just be honest, what what do you believe?
Because you took it down as if you were retracting
your statements.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I I took it down.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
First of all, I I still feel that way, I
still stand on that right. But I took it down
because I got a phone call from twelve right, and
twelve actually told me, hey, man, this case been a
ongoing case, blah blah blah blah, do you wanna uh
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help us move forward on it? And me holding on
to that quote unquote street code and the law of
the land and all this here, I was like, nah,
you know, because I d at that point, I couldn't
see myself, you know, sh getting on a stand.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
And although, let me say this, it was inevitable that.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
What happened happened far as the phone call, but I
didn't consciously think about that when I m s.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
You know, made the video right, so, you know, just
to be.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I didn't make the video to intentionally get attention from
the police. I made the video to intentionally expose them
for the snakes that they are. Right, So anyway, I
get the uh phone call from twelve and and they
was like, more so, if well, you know, if you
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you not gonna help us move forward, it probably would
be your best interest to take it down.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
They didn't make me take it down. They advised me,
you know, so it was up to me to do it,
you know, to take it down or not.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
And and that was it.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
It wasn't about no backlash or none of that, y
cause I'm not worried about no backlash. It's really about,
you know, justice for my partner. You know that that's
that you know, I don't I don't live my life
on no street cold. This is the same street code
that bout his life taken away. You feel what I'm saying.
So I'm I'm not loyal to nothing that's not loyal
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to me.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
That's just cause Birdman didn't have you take it down?
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Nah Man, bird Man ain't have me r that woulda
made me leave it up and probably make a a
response to it and everything.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
He'd have called me.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
It was it was twelve called me and asked me
to cooperate with him, and I just wasn't willing to
do it at you know, at that time, and uh
I took it down.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
I I took their advice and I took it down.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah. And and why did they tell you to take
it down out of like fear for your life or.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Uh no, they was not in fear for my life.
It was more like a uh we d y, are
you gonna help us? Are you gonna talk to us
about what you know? And this, that, that and the other? Uh?
And I'm like nah, it's like, well, okay, well when
you talk to us off record, you know, off the record,
I say, nah.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Man, I I they even wanted to, you know, fly
to me.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I'm like, nah, he said, well, man, if you ain't
gonna help us, we probably would advise you to take
it down. They didn't say you better take it down.
They just advised me to take it down. Even though
you know, taking it down didn't matter because once I
popped it, everybody in they mama, grab it, clip, the
swished it around and everything else. So it still was
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out there.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
You know what I'm saying, I just you know.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
And but by them advising me to take it down,
so I just really switched it around and you know,
play it like I was lying, you.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Know, right, right, right, So so wha why do people
like Terrence Gangst to Williams and you know what I
believe was skill have something to say about what you.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Had because they they say they not they say they've
changed they life, both of 'em. They say I've changed
my life. But at the same time they expect me
to hold on to a a quote unquote street code.
You know it, it ain't making no difference either you
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gonna be on this side defense or that side defense,
point blank.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
So how could you right just aks a answer this?
Speaker 2 (51:30):
How could any one of them squash a thirty year
old beef that they had with each other? One person
killed the other person's best friend, right right? So you
showing growth right there, But then you backtrack and try
to uh call me rat and this, that, that and
the other for doing what I did.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
My thing with the situation is this right?
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Because to to my knowledge, Skip or Ripper, he admitted
to killing s how boy Sterling, right, I think sterlingd
like robbing him or something like that, And so he
ended up shooting them and Gangster was there, and you know,
you know, you know, the their stories kind.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
Of switch up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
But the point of the purpose is that they ended
up sitting down. But Skip told that story. So what's
different about Skip telling the story versus you telling the story?
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Because at the end of the day, is y'all's truth?
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (52:32):
And from what I know about the street code, which
I don't know much, is that I I you know,
just those type of situations you're not supposed to speak
on period. If we just putting it out like that.
MM you see what I'm saying, so right right T to.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
My w what do you think is the the the
difference there?
Speaker 2 (52:49):
The difference as far as how people view it is
like I said, they expected me to hold on to
a cold.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
That's really.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
That that that cold don't do nothing for n for nobody.
If you aks me, you know, the cold, the cold
that they aksing me to hold on to it? Y
that that's for why ns y Y you put you
aks me for for a person like myself. I'm not
in the streets. I'm not up the streets. I don't
claim the streets, you know, And that that's just that
(53:23):
I I really it's just a cold that the streets
expect you to hold on til until it.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
It affects them.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
You know, everybody wanna hold on to this, you know,
big bad thing. And then when it's when it affects them.
Now they wanna talk about gun reform and you know,
take the guns off the street, you know when when
they mama child get taken away. Now they wanna go
all on the news and they need to put some
gun reform in da da well up until the end,
(53:51):
you know, they you know they gonna clown and and
do what they do.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
You know, right.
Speaker 4 (53:57):
So A, as far as you're concerned, what actually happened
between yellow Boy and Birdman?
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yellow yell?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Like I said, in my opinion, yellow when when sh well,
I ain't. In my opinion, it's a fact he shot
his house. He shot his house up, and I feel
like Birdman was in fear for his life, so he
did what he had to do.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
You know what I'm saying, right, h how bold do
you have to be?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
The shot up birdman?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Tones man? He put his pants on the same way
anybody put their pants on. You know, he take a
leak the way every other man take a leak. They
put this uh you know, this thing over his head
like he the king of this and the king of that.
But you know, people the internet will make you look harder,
(54:47):
uh bigger than what you really are. You know, the
fans will make you look harder or bigger than what
you really are. That microphone in that studio, you could
become whoever you wanna be, you know, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
So that's all that's.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
About, you know, Yeah, it is with it. If you're
not scary, you don't care who you is. And that's
a perfect example.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
He didn't care who he was, and this, that and
the other.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
You know, they made Slim look like the real god Father,
you know, and asks rather they Slim just another smart cat,
you feel me.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
That's it, that's it.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
But if you hear the god Fall, the Slim, the Godfather,
you hear that so much, then you gonna start thinking
like that, you know that. Then the the the media
gonna paint a narrative and paint a picture of him
as the Godfather when he just another smart cat. Just
you know, that's it, right right right right?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
I saw a story that you told basically saying you
saw some funny business going on.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
While they were torn. M Like, BG's not getting respected,
He's getting a little boy constantly. And I guess Slim
puts some fires.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
But now it wasn't cause now it wasn't five cause
uh little mattress. You know, they had a book of
mattress in the uh hotel. And you know how it is, man,
(56:18):
you on the road to a pot and somebody the
first person fall asleep about to get it. You know,
you might get two pasts on your eyebrows and you
know something in your hand and then whiggle your ear
you try to you know. So uh, this night they
decided to prank him, and Slim grabbed the book of
mattresses and uh first thing he did was pull his
pants down. So you know that was surprising cause he
(56:42):
never woke up and never moved. He sleep hardened a bit.
So after he pulled his pants down, he lined up
four five matchsticks in his bucket and then he lit 'em.
So man, it was so crazy because he steal the
mattress still of burning, stead of burning, still burning, and
then he f I guess it start. You know, a
person natural reflects, whether you unconscious not, you gonna react
(57:05):
to that, probably, I guess. But uh, he uh squinched
his cheeks together up and put the put the matches out. Man.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
That's when he finally woke up like, man, y'all play
too much.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Like God, damn uh but say, you know what's know
what the crazy part about it is, now that I'm
older and I told his story, Man, people's like you
wrong for s letting him do it. And and I
I kind of feel that too him. I'm I shoulda
took responsibility instead of laughing at him, you know what
I'm saying. I shoulda been like, man, don't do that.
Man that you know, but you know that that me too.
(57:38):
And you know s A wasn't really as powerful as
it is now as it you know back then, you know,
but uh, if they was to do that right now,
they'll be underneath the jail house, right y.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
So y'all would just stare watching and laughing.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Well, it was all the funny games a joke to us,
you know, like really Egg and Slim on you know
mind you we it's funny to us cause like I
told you, you, Slim really can't hardly see you know what
I'm saying to.
Speaker 5 (58:06):
Suggest, so just to see him, you know, you know,
back then we used to have uh, you know, we
had beepers and stuff back then, and if Slim beeper
go off.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
He literally would put it up to his face like that.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
To see the numbers, you know that's going off on
his beepers, so you know, just to see Slim the
one that's doing it. You know it was that was
extra funny. You feel me right right right.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
And this n th this is.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
My my final question, h But for you, right, cash
money alumni, living legend right Without UNLV, there may not
be a cash money, may not be a way, may
not be a jewel. It may not be the stars
that we know today.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
The Hot Boys taught it was wildly successful. It was
beautiful to see. I'm glad Turk got included.
Speaker 4 (59:11):
Got it, Shine, I had the privilege and honor of
interviewing tech or Turk right, and this was all prior
to this happening, and it happened. But after it happens,
Turk is kicked off the tour gets into it with
BG on Live n what's your thoughts right because now
(59:34):
they talking about suing and you know it's starting to
get legal.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
What what what's your thoughts on Turk getting kicked off
the Hotboys tour?
Speaker 2 (59:41):
Just for me being in the music business for so
long and being in the music business with two friends,
two close friends.
Speaker 1 (59:56):
Here's what I have to say about that. I totally,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Believe that they all conspired to kick Turk off that tour.
And here's why I say that, because if they all
partners and they all getting money together, you mean to
tell me, not one person is gonna stand up and
say all the All they would have took if it
(01:00:25):
was the so called promoter like they trying to paint
the picture, all they would have took was them to say, man,
look if Turk can't come, we ain't gone.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
You know, the promoter gonna pull Turk.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
On that because guess what that front end is already
that that deposit was already paid out. You know you
already you don't wanna lose out on the f the
deposit and the back end. So my thing is nobody
stood up for Turk, so that that clearly states to
me that y'all wanted him off that anyway, y'all valued
(01:00:57):
BG more than y'all value Turk instead of just letting
him make their money together. Be they were scared he
was gonna really you know, pop BJ on when once
they got around each other, so they got him out
the way. You mean to tell me nobody mean ain't
staying up for him. That's because they all conspired against him.
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
How how do you feel about how Turk moved afterwards?
Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
It was a blessing. That was God taking care of him.
That was God taking care of him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
You know what I'm saying. It was it was It
was widely off of his hard work and his dedication.
But for the most part, God took care of him
and showed him I got you, don't worry about that.
And now God them put him in a position where
he can go do his own towards You feel what
I'm saying right without them, you know, right right right?
(01:01:50):
I I that was a dirty move. You aks me, bruh.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Man, w do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
You what?
Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
What? What do you feel? Is the future for that?
Can money?
Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
When you and I'm saying because a lot has happened,
right especially since BG has been home. You know what
I mean. I saw Beg go with Gucci, man, you know,
and now it's looking like he's back with Bird.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
We've seen Wayne leave, money issues, Julie leave, turn rap,
a lot come back, money issues, many fresh you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Leave money issues. Uh you know U n l V.
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Leave money issues, money issues.
Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
You know what I said. I've said that in a
video somewhere. You know, if everybody you know calling you
a thief and everybody leaving, you know, so you're trying
to tell me we all just at some point got
together and said, let's let's fuck with a bird man
e'slim and leave.
Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Let's call it my thief.
Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Nah man, that that's who you are as a you know,
that's your character. So if you at some point you
got to ask and try to figure out what am
I doing wrong? Why is everybody saying this about me?
Why is everybody leaving at some point?
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
You know what I'm saying. It ain't It ain't everybody else.
It's you, bro.
Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Yeah, yeah, man, But shout out to them boys.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
You know what I'm saying. I like to see it.
I like to see it continuing after so long.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Any any black man.
Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Yeah, I think it's definitely something to have the type
of legacy right and to even still have pieces that
might not be on the board, but they still like
yourself and og giggity making a lane in the media.
You know what I'm saying, Having a story and having
a platform you know where the people want to give
bird it's problems you're not. It's like, you know what
(01:03:52):
I'm saying, what they've created has lasted beyond them.
Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
It's h you wanna see any black man wins, especially
as if you are you're a part of that and
you helped that out. You know a lot of people,
uh get rubbed the wrong way when when they hear
me telling my story. But it's just my story. A
lot of times, you know, it's not gonna go in
everybody's favor I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
It's you know, somebody is gonna get rubbed the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
You know you had Whitney Houston stories, you had Bobby
Brown's stories. You know you had Elvis Preshley stories, Michael
Jackson stories, James Brown stories. Everybody within that story wasn't
talked about in a positive, you know way all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I'm not gonna allow myself to be silenced because his
feelings or her feelings might get hurt. That's my story.
I would rather tell it than allow somebody else to
butcher it up.
Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
You fear me, I do before before we go, cause
I didn't ask you about master P. But I know
during the bat with.
Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Mystical Mys, school was with no limit, right, and so
to a lot of people it looked like a you know,
cash money versus no limit situation.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
But Berdman actually introduced y'all to master P.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah it it, you know, it never really got to
uh no limit cash money beef.
Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
It was more like a master P and Birdman egle trip.
Both of 'em felt too big to mess with each other,
and they boath was from uptown, just separated by a
couple of miles, you know what I'm saying, and they
both just they ego you know, didn't allow them to
(01:05:48):
work with each other. You know that that was it.
But uh, my first time meeting uh master P was
uh at a radio station one night. They was at
the ready, they was leaving the radio station and we
was on our way to the radio station. And this
is actually the night I think, Well, Pete was just
coming back to New Orleans recruiting artists and he most
(01:06:12):
of the time, uh, on this particular night, Birdman sat
in the car with him and played in our album
that was just about to drop, you know about his
song so U trying to thing and we bout it, and.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Right after that, you know, we get the master p.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Bout it bout it. So that's why I told the
story of that master p. You know, most people, they
they give their opinion about the differences in the two songs,
but they wasn't there the night that I saw Birdman
sit in the car and play our album for him.
You know, he didn't copy our exact cats, but he
definitely copied that idea. Hm.
Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Well, he ended up approaching all at another time and
offering to buy your.
Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Music right right, which was uh, the Booty bo Okay song.
He was like, well, he sent somebody, he sent one
of his uh colleagues. Uh the guys p uh passed
by now swa swab vibe rest in peace, wiby. But
he sent swab Vibe to us, uh uh and uh
to buy a song from us that actually went number
(01:07:16):
one on the radio. And he he he tried to
offer us peanuts.
Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
And I don't even need to say man, we we
definitely got turned that down. Alright.
Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Well, I mean the pleasure was all mine, you know
what I'm saying. I'm definitely honored to have you here.
Is there anything you wanna let your fans know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Yeah, definitely follow me on Instagram Tech nine UNLV, follow
me and subscribe to my YouTube channel. It is growing
at a rapid pace at Tech nine of U n
LV and it was a pleasure doing this interview with
(01:08:03):
you Man.
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Definitely in salute Man until next time. In real told
the TV signing out like
Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Real told this a real money in the room.
This dude used to kiss them.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Them dudes bruh, you know, and that that ain't cool.
And under no circumstances. They're not your biological children. I
don't care how you feel in your mind about them,
but you know you just don't kiss.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Another little boy in the mouth. They that was pure manipulation.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Like weal told this, the real money in the room.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
I don't so I a as we prepare to wrap
up right when you go on tour with cash money,
Cause y'all still working even after Yellow's death. Right, So
y'all are still working with them after Yellow's death and
y'all are touring. At what point does Wayne and Beg
(00:45):
start coming around?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Nah Man?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeller died toward the end in ninety seven.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Okay, So Wayne and Beg showed up, you know, in
the beginning, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So they they was they had been around. Cause if
you but Wayne, Wayne.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Showed up and then his father or his mother, I
don't know the exact which one, but they pulled him back.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
So that's why you don't.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Hear Wayne on all those early UNLV records, But you
hear BG on all those early UNLV records. MM.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
So when Wayne finally showed back up, you know, it
was I was fortunate enough to uh be present and
be active on his very first time recording the studio,
which was the on the True Stories album. It was
called the BG the BG's True Story and it's a
song called f Big Boy, which was BG.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Wayne and myself.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It was a song by us Street that was the
first single, and that was that's when Wayne officially showed
back up, right, I I how.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Were they being around there being kind of young a
it was.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Man it it was like okay, okay, be okay, baby,
whatever you say, you know, whatever he told him to do,
he do it. You know, you know, man it, it
just was I I don't know. I never in my
life saw kids.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Be manipulated the way that they were manipulated.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
This dude used to kiss them.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Them dudes bruh, you know, and that that ain't cool.
And under no circumstances. They're not your biological children. I
don't care how you feel in your mind about them,
but you know, you just don't kiss another little boy
in the mouth. They that was pure manipulation, you know.
And uh, at some point you know, they had to
(02:50):
grow up out of that. But they he definitely used
to kiss them in the mouth, but not all of 'em,
see he he didn't. He wasn't kissing Juvie in the mouth.
He wasn't kissing Turk in them out. But he had
the most control over Wayne and BG.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Fortunately, Wayne grew up out of that and uh, you know,
start doing his own thing.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
But so you saw him kiss them? What because we
seen him kiss Wayne? Now he used to kiss BG too.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Not BG.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
BG's againster boy, he's the you know what I'm saying,
the muscler cash.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Wayne Nah Nah, you know you know that I mean
from what I've seen, From what I see, it's like,
you know, just that this prison beg goes back to
what I'm saying, Tune.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
You can go in the studio the same way a
lot of these dudes on our YouTube and Instagram could
sit behind their computer their keyboard and become who they
want to be. When you go in that studio, you
could become who you wanna be and sound like who
you want to be. You know, I've saw on my mother.
(04:02):
If I'm lying, let the ceiling fall.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I saw with my own eyes. Bird Man opened his
hand and slapped a shit of BG, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
For bringing Gangster around.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
One night?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
What we on We getting ready to go to a
uh A show at our meeting place used to be
his uh Birdman and Slim step Mom's house on uh
on uh Valence and Magnolia. We would always meet there.
We would either leave our cars there, jump in some
(04:34):
vands or UH bus or whatever. Uh. We all pile
up in our cars and follow each other to wherever
we going.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
But that was our meeting place.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
And on this particular night, BG pulls up with Gangster.
And I remember this like it was yesterday. Man Birdman said,
look our dougate, say duge ga come up. And when
he called him over there, and he finally came over there,
he opened his hand.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
And popped him.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Pop told you about bringing him out, asks me, and
he was talking about Gangster and I, man, it's crazy, girl,
it's crazy. I saw that with my own my own eyes.
Ain't nobody told me this. You feel what I'm saying?
So when it when it? You know, when he talk
all that m C M Artists and that that one
thing i'm'a tell you about O G giggity when he
(05:21):
say it's a a cash money channel, it.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Is to a certain point.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know, he only got so much rope because he's
still in uh close contact with him. That's how he
gets to know some some inside stuff sometimes. But you know,
I like to troll him the same way he liked
to troll me. And in one of my trolls t
towards him is I call him a side piece. And
my reason calling him a side piece is because, uh,
(05:52):
he's not allowed to be in public. He's not allowed
to be publicly acknowledged by any of them.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
But he does talk.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
To him definitely, but they not gonna be seen with him.
They not gonna take a picture with him or none
of that because of how he came home.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
So that's my little, my little inside joke with him.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
You know, I call him side piece Williams, side piece Williams.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Oh g Giggley man h.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So n k y.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
You watch them come in as like kids and get
manipulated in the sense spot uh bird man.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, I've seen him, you know, that's that's I saw.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I saw the manipulation, just like uh, I made a
I made a video earlier today and I talked about
how after a concert, when it's time to get paid,
Birdman with hand beg a hundred a hundred one dollar bills.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
And and that's the kind of manipulation and and that
I I witness, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Just like.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
They some young kids, but you making them believe it's
cool to let me kiss you in.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
The mout You know, No, I ain't.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
I ain't saying there was tongue kissing and nothing like that,
but just you know, yeah, come here, give me a kiss.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
But in New Orleans, I believe I was told that
may be cool.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
No, I don't know whoever told you, whoever told you that.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
They're a lie lie lie like a dog.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
So that's not going on in the ord, nah man.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Nobody about to be kissing each other.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Man, Okay, I'm just saying, we saw it on TV.
You know what I'm saying. So it's not like it's not.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Like that's That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
The TV will twist your man. The TV if you
if you don't.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Have because where were their parents, they were.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
They were trusted with bird Man and snow, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
So they were they were trusted.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
And when a person is sick in the mind, they'll
try all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Just like the those parents.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Would uh send their uh their kids to r Kelly,
you know, hoping they they finna be stars or whatever,
and r Kelly just popping them, them young ladies, you
know what I'm saying, allegedly, but you know they you
know them, you know them dudes.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Moms and pops sent.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Them, and like you know, they about to be some stars.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
They already see that. These guys just slickside hood rich.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
So you know, they send him Tom And you know,
when a person messed up in the head, you know
you he you gotta be a different type of person
to think it's cool to kiss a young man in
the mouth.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Right, Well, a after you see him give him the
hundred dollars in ones fat bank roll, he what do
y'all tell him?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
We tell 'em he supposed to be getting more than that, right,
We tell him what to say and what to aks for,
and uh he turns around and instead of him standing
up for hisself, he goes and telling him tacking yellow said,
you beat me out my money. I'm spost to get
(09:11):
some And.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So instead of you know, just accing.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Man, Look, this ain't enough I need that's such and
such y n nah.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Hm Man that that that's that's wild to hear. Alright, Man,
Today on Real Tone TV, we got a New Orleans
legend hip hop pioneer Tech nine of unlv aka Flex.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
How you feeling feeling good?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Man? It's uh, it's great to finally lock in with you. Man.
I I I've been studying your.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Work, m you know, and.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Of course I uh just jumped off the porch where
where the some podcasting and you know, storytelling, and I
you know, I kind of you know, picked up a
few pointers from you.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
So it's okay.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
It's a good day for me to even lock in
with you. Brother.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Well, when I tell you you have some of the
best content right now going out of New Orleans, I
think if you stay consistent and you stay down with
what you have going on, you will be one of
the biggest to do it, not just in New Orleans,
but you know, all over this ear internet thing.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Man.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So I'm excited about today and I'm hoping we can
get a lot of history because one of the things
that I'm really into is making sure that we.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Get the history, and we get it accurately, right, right, So.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Just tell me, let's just start from the top, right,
because everybody I think knows about U n LV, one
of the first cash money artists to kind of do it,
especially at scale.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
But prior to that, where are you from?
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm from I'm from New Orleans. I'm from Uptown New
Orleans for Mean project. That's why I was born and
raised at and Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I stayed there until I was like twelve years.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Old, and my mom uh married my dad when I
was like twelve, and my dad moved us out of there.
So that's when. At that point, that's when we moved
on six and Baron, which is also the name of
our first album. So uh, but basically, I'm I'm an
uptown baby man, you know, from the Meltha Mean to
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six and B mal for me, raised me and six
and B bread me.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
And so so you out that mouth, I'm out the mouth. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
So at what point do you start rapping? Meet little
yard meat yellow boy?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Uh? Right after I moved out the melth Uh, I
met Lil Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
We both we liked three months apart in age, so.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
We like going on twelve, right, right, so we started,
you know, doing talent shows and realized that we were
we had a uh common interest, which was the band
and music, and eventually we started doing talent shows together
and uh, you know it went from there. That's exactly,
that's really where our music started from doing talent shows
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in junior high school, Carter G.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Wilson, Okay, in junior high school. Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
So at what point the do you start to get
recognized by Bertman?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Uh, like seventeen eighteen years old, because, uh, after the
talent shows we got we we got a little bit discouraged, bruh,
cause you know, we was winning first place and every
talent show that we entered, and and then the radio
station gave a talent show and first prize was supposed
to be a trip to New York and a record deal,
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right right. It was a lie they did. They didn't
do what they said they was gonna do. So it
discouraged us and made us back down for a little bit. Now,
mind you, this is our teen years you know, eleven, twelve,
thirteen years old, fourteen years old. So later on down
the line, uh, we started being old enough to sneak
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in clubs, you know, we really wasn't old enough to
be in there, but we was old enough to look
like we old enough.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
To be in there, right, So we we s sneaking.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
In and out the clubs, and you know, DJ Jimmy
and T Tucker songs was popping, and the DJs had
figured out a way to keep repeating the the trigger
Man sound and and uh the show boys uh sounding.
You know, we call it trigger man in New Orleans.
And uh, we eventually started grabbing a mic and free styling,
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and you know, during the course of us freestyling, the
DJ secretly records us, right uh huh, and as see,
we never knew he recorded us.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So the f we we go back to.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
The uh to the club, and the DJ puts on
the recording of of me and Yai and the club
going crazy right right.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
So after that, we we feel like we had something.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
So we just asked him to make us a copy
of the tape, give us a copy of it. We
go to uh the local drug store, buy a bunch
of packs of cassettes, and we make cassettes copies and
copies and copies, and uh we selling them for five
dollars out of the car. And now Eventually Birdman and
Slim got their hands on a copy of it and
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contacted us.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Okay, okay, okay, So how how was that?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
You know, you you meet Birdman, you meet Slim, You're
seventeen eighteen, you know what I'm saying, how was that?
Speaker 3 (14:49):
Just walk us through that?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Uh, to be honest with your manner, w you know,
coming from where I'm from, we we we just were
so used to seeing that and trauma and drama, you know,
it was it was kind of refreshing to run across
somebody that was willing to help us with with our dream, right,
So you know, we automatically looked up to him, you know,
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but at the same time, we felt like we was
connecting with two dough boys who was just trying to
clean their stuff up, you feel me. But we trusted them,
you know, We trusted them and believed in them the
same as they did with us in the beginning.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
M No, people have to understand right that this wasn't
the bird Man and Slim that we know.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
This ain't stunner. No, you know what I'm saying, This
ain't stunner right here, this is this.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Is baby baby right right. But with Slim, it was
still slim. Slim been the same way from day one
to right to this day. He just gets smarter as
he go, but he never you know, his character, it
never did change, right, Right?
Speaker 3 (15:59):
What was different about them then than them now?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Uh? I think the difference between them back then and
now is they are definitely more educated about what they
doing than what they were back then.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
You know, back then it.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Was like let's get out the streets, clean his money
up and uh, you know, get to it. I wanna
do something legal, but it was like a learn as
you go. But now I I think they did, you know,
doing well with what they know? Right?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And and how old were they around the South?
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Let me see, my.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
I would have to say if I was like eighteen,
they probably was like twenty three, twenty two, twenty three,
you know what I'm saying, Cause Hee very Man is
like a few years older than I am, right, you know,
maybe three or four years older than I am.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And and and so who who at this time outside
of UNLV was signed to Cash Money.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Uh. When we got to the label, you had two
artists which was Kelog and pmw.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Okay, So this is before Wayne, Yes, before Juvie, Yes,
before Turk Yes, before BG Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
So this is.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Before the cash money that we know today.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Before the cash money that you know today. L Like
I said, when we when we arrived, it was klog
which was they first artist, and PMW which was they
second artist, and then UNLV Uh they found us.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Now I suppose they took a liking to you when
they found you, because at some points you move and
you start living with Berlin.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Right right right.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, we was kind of close in the beginning, and.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
You know, uh, they they kind of cleaned to me.
I guess they liked in my character or whatever. And
and uh also you know I was so invested into
the music, you know, and they were so invested into
getting to that next level. I was the one who
was like, you know, I'm ready to go all the time.
You know what I'm saying, studio studio, studio.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So you know they.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Saw that in me and was like just grabbing put
me under they wing.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Okay, how was it when you was, you know, at
their house?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Ah, it really was.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
We We never was there.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
We always was on the on the road going drop
off music, uh, pick up chicks. You know. It was
like when we get to the house, it's nighttime. It's
time to shower and go to bed and wake up.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The next day, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
So it really wasn't a whole lot of time spent
at the.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
House right now, Now, there was one time at the
house where you saw Baby and Slim get into a altercation.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, definitely, definitely. So so man, look it's crazy, brother,
because my guy, my guy tried to discredit my story.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But he you know, he don't have no even.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Uh he he he don't, he can't even he can't
discredit it because he wasn't there. It was myself, Slim
and Baby at the house.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
So the way it used to go.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Is, man, Slim is like legally blind, right, he not
blind what he needed cane or stick what he's legally
blind not, you know, meaning he can't drive, So somebody's
always got the show for him around and during that
time it was just him and baby, you know what
I'm saying. Right, So Birdman, uh would we'll me and
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we'll be gone all day, you know, taking care of
business and taking care of music and stuff like that,
dropping off, picking up, and then uh, at the end
of the day, we'll drop Slim off and then me
and Birdman I hang out and go. You know, he
might drop me by one of my broads.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Uh uh, We'll go on teams.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Some bras or whatever, gonna get drink.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
During that time, it was like alexand Tango Ray that's
what That's what our drink was.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So we'll be doing our thing. But at the end
of the night, we would always be you know, we
would be responsible for bringing Slim food home. You know
what I'm saying. That's if we didn't stop before we
drop him off.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You feel me.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
If we drop him off early, you know what I'm saying, Uh,
he'll eat and then you know, when we come in
at night, we'll bring.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Him some more food.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
But during this time, man, uh uh, you know, we
took a real long time making it back to the house.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And Slim was pissed.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
He was pissed, you know. Gu Like I said, uh
saying in the priv uh video, Slim love McDonald's, love Popeyes.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
And there there was a little spot called we Never Close.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Out there in the east, not too far from where
they used to live at And man, we come home drunk,
you know, playing around with them broads, and Slim fired up.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
So Slim was like, where are my food. With that,
he go to talk and fly to bird Man. Let
bird Man talk and fly back to him.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Before you know it, you know, Slim took off on him.
Slim took off on bird Slim took off on him,
got him one end pop and uh, they passed a
few lads. Didn't fight hard, but they passed a few lads.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
But the argument was.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Harder than to fight. You know, give me go, get
the check book, give me my half. The argument was
worser than the neo fight, you know what I'm saying.
But uh, like I said before, man, the awkward part
about it is, you know, nobody wasn't never Slim or
bird Man and myself, and if any one of them
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was to see this, they probably dying laughing because they
know that this happened. And uh, you know, like I said,
nobody else couldn't speak on this to say if it's
the truth or like or nobody else wasn't there, you
know what I'm saying. So, uh, you know the crazy part,
we never spoke about it amongst each other, you know,
between the three of us, we never spoke about it.
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But uh, you know they definitely knew what happened, you know, right,
right right, right right, So.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
Unlv right, y'all, y'all start getting big and somebody else
who comes along as Mystical.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
At at what point, because.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Y'all had some distance back and forth, at what point
did y'all get into it with Mystical man?
Speaker 1 (22:39):
To be honest with you, were Mystical.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Mystical was a long time friend of ours right from
from high school, from ninth grade to twelfth grade til
we all graduated. Kay, So Mystical went graduated maybe a
year or two before us, right, but then he went
away to the Armed Forces, whichever branch she was in.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
So when he came back from.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
The Armed Forces, uh, we was already in there. You know,
we got New Orleans on on lock popping. So he
pulls up I think he uh, you know, he was
finished with his little tour or whatever military tour, and
he came in, was like, man, I introduce me to
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your people, blah blah blah blah, this that and that
and that part didn't work out.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
So he came back.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
And was letting us know that he and hooked up
with some other record label in the city and that
he wanted to diss us to get some traction. You know,
so me and me and Yai and myself, we agreed
to let him do it, and you know that was that.
But the thing about it was Yellow wasn't present at
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that time when we agreed to let him diss us and.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
When he did this us, Yellow took it personal.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
But see, the the other thing about Yell is he
really didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
He didn't care about, Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
We gonna keep this in the streets and I mean
keep this on the records and da da da da
da street Yellow, you know, he was like, you play
with me, you know, it's it's on goal. So he
didn't care that we agreed. In his mind, it's like,
all right, I got him. So it really was more
beef with Yellow.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
And Mystical than it was with Mystical.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, in tech, you feel what I'm saying because we
we consciously agreed to let him do that.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Right, But but he uses Yellow's lines.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
When he uses Yellow lines, you know, he never gonna bounce,
never gonna bow because that was the you know how
it go. When you at the top, they're gonna come
for at the was at the top. Yeah, so Yellow
had one of the hottest dances out and yeah, he
he he took a jab at Yellow, you know, kind
of first.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Right, So this takes place and it eventually gets pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Yeah, h how bad did it get?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Man, it got so bad to.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Uh, if Mystical was to ride through our neighborhood, the
little kids in the neighborhood would throw rocks and bottles
and stuff at his truck.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Get from around here, Get from around here.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
If Yellow was driving in his truck and Mystical and
he spot Mystical just driving through the neighborhood, Yellow gonna
chase him, you know, and you know, try to make
him wreck or run into him or you know. It
just was it was on goal with him, with with
that situation, and it got so bad to when uh
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mystical sister lost her life and Yellow lost his life.
These boat were blamed, you know, because of what the
fans listening to. So the fans would be like, man,
the Mystical really killed Yellow, the Yellow really killed Mystical,
Uh sister. That's the questions we would be asked every
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time we would go on the road outside of New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Right, So so wr running r run that just a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
So when Mystical's sister is you know, deleted right.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
RP.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yellow boy is blamed, and I'm told he wasn't just
you know, blamed, but he actually got arrested.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, Uh, he he got detained, not arrested like whereas
you arrested in charge. But he was detained. We both
were detained because we all when you saw him, you
saw me. When you saw me, you saw him. But uh,
once we got detained, they didn't. Uh they allowed me
to leave, but I didn't leave until they y I
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was gonna see if he they gonna keep him or
let him go.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
But he was detained in question. But uh, nothing came
from it.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Because the blessing about this whole thing, because it could
have went way worse than that. The blessing about it
is that the guy who did do it confessed to
doing it right right, So that kind of freed him
up right there. But I don't think if that guy
would have wouldn't have confessed that, it probably would have
(27:43):
been a little bit more harsher than it was.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
So I and and how just to for there's a
point of clarification, how were y'all even in a situation
to where y'all getting detained for like a murder situation.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
The streets, man, the the streets will have you jammed up,
just the streets talking and the fans, you know, just
by the fans will you know, as sometimes the fans
would literally take what you're saying in the record and
you know, take that as if that's what it really is.
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And in this case, that's what really happened.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
Bro, You in Yellow like back then it was cool
to do heroin to us.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
And to do our mind.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, in our mind right.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
But uh we paid for it. We you know, he
paid for it with his life and I paid for
it with my help.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
M you know, yeah, how how was it back then?
Like tell me about him?
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Like Yellow Boy?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Uh so it was this big old myth that if
you snart a bag of boy that you gonna popa
girl all night none stop. That old thing ain't gonna
never go down. So that's what initially drew us in
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to try it, mm right, and y uh.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
It's true, It's definitely true.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
But what they don't tell you is after doing it
for so long, your body become your body start needing
me needing it right, right, And uh that's what ultimately
happened to Yellow in myself. We we would do do
hair on every day, every day, every day, and then
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just on that one day that we going to try
to find some and maybe our little plug ain't there whatever,
and we gotta wait a few hours. Now we start
to feeling sick. And now that's when it. You know,
you realize that you gotta have it. But y, it's
hard to hold on. It's hard to realize that you
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have a habit when you riding around and the flies
cars and you got the flies clothes and jewelry and
pockets full of money. So it's hard for you to
even look at yourself as a junkie, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And y'all were like junkies with with money.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That's that's what I would call it.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Man, if I'm gonna be totally transparent with you, with
you and with the people who watching this, I would
call myself a junkie with money or definitely. And you
don't un You don't know that until you you know
your minding is clear and your body is clean. You
don't realize until you step outside of yourself and see
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somebody else and you identified with what they doing. You
were like shit, I used to do the same thing
you know, bruh, you realize you wasn't no different. So
if you were a conscious enough person and a smart
enough person, you you be like I was just like that.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
So now there was a time where y'all were going about.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Y'all's day, or you per se were going about your
day and you were looking for some boy, and you
pull it up to.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
The Magnolia right right, and you see hot boys stirling.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, but before before we even go into that, tell
me a little bit about the hot boys, Like who
were they?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
This was the original hot boys before the rest.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
The original hot boys, in my opinion, were really just
some jack boys. You know. They were known more for
jagging and beefing and having shootouts than they were for
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being on that money kick You feel what I'm saying
now down the line, toy, it's the end gangster. He
started getting some money, you know, but really you know, uh.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Sterling Mosquito.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Hot, Dooney Dooney wound up getting to the money too.
But Sterling Mosquito Hot, they never really was on no money,
k They just you know, they beefing and shooting out
and you know, people popping at them, They popping at people,
and you know they jacking and you know that's that's
what the hot boys was that I saw coming up uptown, you.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Know, right, so you're going to get some boy from
the Magnolia, right and uh, Sterling's there, so tell me
about that.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
So I pull up and annoy you, right, and uh,
I'm once it was my go to guy. So he
wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
Normally, we if we uh, if if we going in
the project and and we can't running in to him,
it would uh we would normally his moms would let
us inside or whatever. And but uh, this particular time
he wasn't there. I didn't get out and go. I
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you know, I didn't see my other little partner, Clauda
b down the street going toward Louis down.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
I didn't see him.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
S okay, so what what happened when you pull up?
You know, looking for the boy?
Speaker 2 (33:33):
So alright, normally, O G Giggitty, that was my go
to a guy, you know, Yellow and myself, we would
go to him to uh and get what we needed. Right,
So this particular day, he wasn't out there, and we
didn't see moms or nothing like that. You know, Well,
I I said we, but it was I was by
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myself this day, and you know, I made the block
after I I didn't see Clauda b either.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So I made the block and come back around.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Uh open maybe gangs to come outside or whatever, but
he never showed up. So when I made the block,
I see Sterling right. So Sterling flagged me down and uh,
he was like, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
We well, uh what gangst that? You know, he was
like he he done.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
He coming back though, But I got it, you know,
so I I'm like, oh, okay, cool, give me a
give me a grand, give me a g So.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I hand him my money and uh, he goes in
the in the hallway. I didn't Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I'm thinking maybe he gonna go in the house or
uh uh I you.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
Know, he coming right back out.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
But he started taking long mm and they really raised
my suspicion because I never messed with him on that
tip anywhere.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
You know most of the time.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
You know, he was known for jacking. But I by
him by me knowing that they was closely associated. I'm thinking,
maybe you know, he left it with him, he don't
wanna miss out on the money or whatever.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
So when he finally came back out, he handed it
to me.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
And you know, I'm you know, most of the time,
you ain't thinking nobody about to pull off nothing. So
I just grab what I grab that boom, I'm gone.
I uh our heads down the street and you know,
make a little quick stop, come back in, try to
get me a little bump. And when I open it up,
I realized this food and hit me.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
Off with some brown sugar.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
So man, it's crazy because, uh, you know, as I'm
about to really turn around and go back, which was
probably gonna be a uh uh a bad decision because
you know, I already know these dudes don't care. They
don't have no you know, no heart, no sense for
for human life or none of that. He probably was
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gonna pop me if he saw me come back, pull up,
back up.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Cause he gonna he don't know what left I'm on.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
But uh, before I can turn and go back, Mosquito,
which is a very good friend of mine, we go
way way back and Mosquito. I see Mosquito going to
the store, and I stopped him and let him know
what's going on. And Mosquito wound up taking care of
the situation from me. You know, I gave him my car.
He took the the bad dope and the bad boy.
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And uh he actually went back to the uh to
him and got my money for him minus fifty dollars.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
You know, I gave him three hundred. I c I
wind up.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
With two fifty back.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So it is what it is though, right.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
So it's like, y'all are this rap group, but y'all
have like this street thing going on right now. Yello,
he throughout his tenure with cash Money, had issues with Berman.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah it.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
It was even said that a few fights happened. T
tell me about their relationship.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yellow and Burdman definitely didn't get along. Yellow always thought
that Birdman was up to no good, and Berdman always
felt like Yellow was just a little bit too cocky.
(37:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yellow had a a.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
Real bad habit of calling bird Man's hands. You know.
He would always be like, come on, let's do it,
let's do it, you know, and Birdman would just uh gracefully,
you know, bow out and just you know, played the
bigger role in that situation, right, So you know that
(37:35):
would go on so much and so much and so
much man, And in my opinion, I really think that
Yeller thought bird Man was scared of him. And so it.
You know, if a person really not scary, it's gonna
come to a point where they they gonna wind up
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just being pushed too far and they gonna show you.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
And one day we was we were shooting a video
on Martin, Luther King and Clayborne. That's uptown. That's that's
like a landmark uptown. So, uh, everybody out there and
uh we shows up late, right, Yellow shows up even
later than Yai and myself, and uh once he got
(38:21):
out there, once we all got out there, Birdman was
so mad.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
He was like, man, if.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
This uh uh video shoot, we ain't doing it and
this that and that and left them niggas bah blah
blah blah. So uh it came down to it to
where we was like, man, well take it in the hood.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
You know, let's go back in the hood. We'm'a show you.
So Yellow Ad then called his hands again.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
So this time Birdman ain't back down because uh he
got all of his partners around that now, you feel me,
So he don't wanna look bad in front of all
his partners, so he went ahead and accept the fight.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
And uh so once we got back in the hood
them to square off, and I could tell bird Man
they really wanna fight him because he never took a
step forward. He was just going backwards and backwards and
backwards and backwards.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
You know it.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It really wasn't no hardcore fight. But Yeller definitely got
him because bird Man really he was more in defense
than he was trying to apply pressure. And during the fight, Uh,
Slim is you know, I'm tryna break the fight up, right,
So I hear a joke. I hear I heard the
(39:30):
joke where uh yo oh Giggley said about uh yeah,
of all the people I could fight, I could fight Slim.
I tried everything in my power not to hit Slim.
Slim hit me at least three times before I finally
swung back my my My point in that fight was
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to the only reason I even got involved in that
fight was tryna stop Slim for jumping Yellow, cause Slim
was tryna jump in the fight where Yellow and while
Yellow and bird Man going one on one, and I'm
instead of going back up Slim chill, I'm tryna hold
him back, you know. And you see me looking up,
cause that's how it really is, looking up to him.
(40:12):
Man back up, you know, get back, and he stead
of trying to s swing over me and get nick
on Yellow, but he missing Yellow and pop.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
He stead of popping me pop.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
He popped me like three times after that third time
like Slim, bruh, don't swing no more. He's still swinging
pop Man. Slim got some little bitty hands, right, some
little skinny.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Hands, and the Negs hurt you. You ain't you.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Catching all bones? What saying? So man, that that's what
made me ultimately hit Slim. It ain't like me and
Yellow against slimming and baby come on, man, come on.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
Bruh man.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
But that's how the altercation wind up happening, you know,
right right right.
Speaker 4 (40:59):
So, so at some point I'm guessing Yellow Boy was
feeling played with, feeling like Birdman wasn't cutting checks, cut
the royalties, and he went to see about it. Yeah,
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And now I did an interview with Lil Y'ah of
a l UNLV and he.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Talked about it so on and so forth.
Speaker 4 (41:29):
But tell me what you know about that night, because
apparently this is what led up to.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yellow getting killed.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
Right.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
So it was coming to the point where we was
getting ready to record more music and we saw the
huge the huge change in income when we dropped the
Uptown for Life album. You know, so just imagine, uh y,
(42:02):
you know, you selling hundreds and hundreds of thousands of
copies on an independent level back then when music wasn't
being streamed.
Speaker 1 (42:12):
So we started, you know, we.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
We wanted, you know, to uh renegotiate our contract and this, that,
that and the other.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
And they wasn't trying to have it. And I was
more on the level, like you know, less hire lawyer.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
But like I said, the same frame of mind yellow
head with the mystical situation, not really understanding it. He
had that same frame of mind, not wanting to wait
until okay, we find a lawyer and let a lawyer
deal with it and we can maybe renegotiate it like that.
He he took it up on hisself with uh one
of the little dudes he used to ride around with
(42:50):
some time when he wasn't with me, and uh, he
goes and shoot they h shoot their house up. Shoot
they calls up.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
That was in front they house.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Mm you feel me? So you know, once he once
he went to that point, I was like, damn, you know,
the first thing came to my mind is like maybe
he too far gone on the dog. Let me try to,
you know, talk him into going to rehab. And that's
when I made the conscious decision to uh put myself
(43:18):
in the rehab and I asksed him to come with me,
and uh, him and I had a argument, you know,
he didn't really wanna hear that rehab stuff like that,
you know, And so that's that's when I went to
the rehab. And maybe like after the second or third
day I was in there, boom, that's when he got
deleted w.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
A and well you ended up getting arrested for his
deletion or at least detailed, right.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
So me being in that rehab is what cleared me ultimately,
But I still stayed in jail like two three months
because my mind was so poison with drugs. I didn't
even realize that this is where I was until a
joke was made by a female that I was dealing with.
She made a voke like like how I get out
(44:02):
the the rehab that night? And you know, cause I
I really took some furniture and threw it around, bro
get and made him put me out, you know what
I'm saying, Hm, And that's how I get out of
the rehab. But that's also how I.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
I got out of out of jail. You know, I.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Wasn't formally charged for the the murder, but my probation
officer put a hole on me trying to get me
indicted for it. Right, So I'm sitting in prison all
this time, in jail, all in the count of jail,
all this time while he trying to work his case
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up on me. But once I f I I realized
and it the light went off and it dawned on
me that I was in the rehab. I had the
female to get me a lawyer, get me a court date.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
I got the court, the.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Judge ordered the the clerk of court to call the rehab.
The rehab faxed over my paperworking. I got got released
right then and there.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
Now all of this is happening, and you end up
going to Yellow Boy's funeral and what not?
Speaker 1 (45:14):
What d did you? You?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
You got to go?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yeah? I got to go?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
This g How was that?
Speaker 2 (45:21):
It was? It was really weird because that was like
the second person that I saw laying in the casket.
The first person I ever saw laying.
Speaker 1 (45:32):
In the casket was my.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
My pops, And the second person was Yellow boy, was
it a big funeral or yeah, it was a pretty
big funeral. And you know what always what always stuck
with me about yellow funeral? Uh, birdman and Slim showed
(45:54):
up at the funeral with Islamic protection. You know how
you might have a.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
The the Muslims provide protection like security for people. I
don't know if y you might not.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Know that, but the NI it's called or show it
up with them.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
They showed up with them, and neither one of those
guys was a Muslim, but a l til they defense.
They started using them to be our security instead of like.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Regular boss guys.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
We would we would walk in concerts and reverer bohalleluja
with with the NI. But it was just strange to
me that they showed up at the funeral with the NI.
You know yeah, stayed maybe fifteen twenty minutes and then left.
So I think it was like a publicity showing if
you aksed me. You know, just certain things stick with
(46:49):
me in my head, you know, right, right.
Speaker 4 (46:53):
You actually went viral, right Unfortunately I didn't get to
see the live.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
I just got to see everybody talking about it.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
Yeah, essentially, you address the rumors that Berdman had something.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
To do with.
Speaker 4 (47:11):
Yellow Boys deletion. Okay, what's your perspective on that? Like,
what did just be honest, what what do you believe?
Because you took it down as if you were retracting
your statements.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
I I took it down.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
First of all, I I still feel that way, I
still stand on that right. But I took it down
because I got a phone call from twelve right, and
twelve actually told me, hey, man, this case been a
ongoing case, blah blah blah blah, do you wanna uh
(47:50):
help us move forward on it? And me holding on
to that quote unquote street code and the law of
the land and all this here, I was like, nah,
you know, because I d at that point, I couldn't
see myself, you know, sh getting on a stand.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
And although, let me say this, it was inevitable that.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
What happened happened far as the phone call, but I
didn't consciously think about that when I m s.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
You know, made the video right, so, you know, just
to be.
Speaker 2 (48:30):
I didn't make the video to intentionally get attention from
the police. I made the video to intentionally expose them
for the snakes that they are. Right, So anyway, I
get the uh phone call from twelve and and they
was like, more so, if well, you know, if you
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you not gonna help us move forward, it probably would
be your best interest to take it down.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
You know.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
They didn't make me take it down. They advised me,
you know, so it was up to me to do it,
you know, to take it down or not.
Speaker 1 (49:04):
And and that was it.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
It wasn't about no backlash or none of that, y
cause I'm not worried about no backlash. It's really about,
you know, justice for my partner. You know that that's
that you know, I don't I don't live my life
on no street cold. This is the same street code
that bout his life taken away. You feel what I'm saying.
So I'm I'm not loyal to nothing that's not loyal
(49:28):
to me.
Speaker 1 (49:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (49:29):
That's just cause Birdman didn't have you take it down?
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Nah Man, bird Man ain't have me r that woulda
made me leave it up and probably make a a
response to it and everything.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
He'd have called me.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
It was it was twelve called me and asked me
to cooperate with him, and I just wasn't willing to
do it at you know, at that time, and uh
I took it down.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
I I took their advice and I took it down.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
Yeah. And and why did they tell you to take
it down out of like fear for your life or.
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Uh no, they was not in fear for my life.
It was more like a uh we d y, are
you gonna help us? Are you gonna talk to us
about what you know? And this, that, that and the other? Uh?
And I'm like nah, it's like, well, okay, well when
you talk to us off record, you know, off the record,
I say, nah.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
Man, I I they even wanted to, you know, fly
to me.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I'm like, nah, he said, well, man, if you ain't
gonna help us, we probably would advise you to take
it down. They didn't say you better take it down.
They just advised me to take it down. Even though
you know, taking it down didn't matter because once I
popped it, everybody in they mama, grab it, clip, the
swished it around and everything else. So it still was
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out there.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
You know what I'm saying, I just you know.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
And but by them advising me to take it down,
so I just really switched it around and you know,
play it like I was lying, you.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
Know, right, right, right, So so wha why do people
like Terrence Gangst to Williams and you know what I
believe was skill have something to say about what you.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
Had because they they say they not they say they've
changed they life, both of 'em. They say I've changed
my life. But at the same time they expect me
to hold on to a a quote unquote street code.
You know it, it ain't making no difference either you
(51:21):
gonna be on this side defense or that side defense,
point blank.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
So how could you right just aks a answer this?
Speaker 2 (51:30):
How could any one of them squash a thirty year
old beef that they had with each other? One person
killed the other person's best friend, right right? So you
showing growth right there, But then you backtrack and try
to uh call me rat and this, that, that and
the other for doing what I did.
Speaker 3 (51:52):
My thing with the situation is this right?
Speaker 4 (51:54):
Because to to my knowledge, Skip or Ripper, he admitted
to killing s how boy Sterling, right, I think sterlingd
like robbing him or something like that, And so he
ended up shooting them and Gangster was there, and you know,
you know, you know, the their stories kind.
Speaker 3 (52:14):
Of switch up a little bit.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
But the point of the purpose is that they ended
up sitting down. But Skip told that story. So what's
different about Skip telling the story versus you telling the story?
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Because at the end of the day, is y'all's truth?
Speaker 2 (52:31):
Right?
Speaker 4 (52:32):
And from what I know about the street code, which
I don't know much, is that I I you know,
just those type of situations you're not supposed to speak
on period. If we just putting it out like that.
MM you see what I'm saying, so right right T to.
Speaker 3 (52:44):
My w what do you think is the the the
difference there?
Speaker 2 (52:49):
The difference as far as how people view it is
like I said, they expected me to hold on to
a cold.
Speaker 1 (52:59):
That's really.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
That that that cold don't do nothing for n for nobody.
If you aks me, you know, the cold, the cold
that they aksing me to hold on to it? Y
that that's for why ns y Y you put you
aks me for for a person like myself. I'm not
in the streets. I'm not up the streets. I don't
claim the streets, you know, And that that's just that
(53:23):
I I really it's just a cold that the streets
expect you to hold on til until it.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
It affects them.
Speaker 2 (53:30):
You know, everybody wanna hold on to this, you know,
big bad thing. And then when it's when it affects them.
Now they wanna talk about gun reform and you know,
take the guns off the street, you know when when
they mama child get taken away. Now they wanna go
all on the news and they need to put some
gun reform in da da well up until the end,
(53:51):
you know, they you know they gonna clown and and
do what they do.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
You know, right.
Speaker 4 (53:57):
So A, as far as you're concerned, what actually happened
between yellow Boy and Birdman?
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yellow yell?
Speaker 2 (54:05):
Like I said, in my opinion, yellow when when sh well,
I ain't. In my opinion, it's a fact he shot
his house. He shot his house up, and I feel
like Birdman was in fear for his life, so he
did what he had to do.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
You know what I'm saying, right, h how bold do
you have to be?
Speaker 3 (54:23):
The shot up birdman?
Speaker 2 (54:24):
Tones man? He put his pants on the same way
anybody put their pants on. You know, he take a
leak the way every other man take a leak. They
put this uh you know, this thing over his head
like he the king of this and the king of that.
But you know, people the internet will make you look harder,
(54:47):
uh bigger than what you really are. You know, the
fans will make you look harder or bigger than what
you really are. That microphone in that studio, you could
become whoever you wanna be, you know, you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
So that's all that's.
Speaker 2 (55:02):
About, you know, Yeah, it is with it. If you're
not scary, you don't care who you is. And that's
a perfect example.
Speaker 1 (55:08):
He didn't care who he was, and this, that and
the other.
Speaker 2 (55:10):
You know, they made Slim look like the real god Father,
you know, and asks rather they Slim just another smart cat,
you feel me.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
That's it, that's it.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
But if you hear the god Fall, the Slim, the Godfather,
you hear that so much, then you gonna start thinking
like that, you know that. Then the the the media
gonna paint a narrative and paint a picture of him
as the Godfather when he just another smart cat. Just
you know, that's it, right right right right?
Speaker 4 (55:39):
I saw a story that you told basically saying you
saw some funny business going on.
Speaker 3 (55:44):
While they were torn. M Like, BG's not getting respected,
He's getting a little boy constantly. And I guess Slim
puts some fires.
Speaker 2 (55:57):
But now it wasn't cause now it wasn't five cause
uh little mattress. You know, they had a book of
mattress in the uh hotel. And you know how it is, man,
(56:18):
you on the road to a pot and somebody the
first person fall asleep about to get it. You know,
you might get two pasts on your eyebrows and you
know something in your hand and then whiggle your ear
you try to you know. So uh, this night they
decided to prank him, and Slim grabbed the book of
mattresses and uh first thing he did was pull his
pants down. So you know that was surprising cause he
(56:42):
never woke up and never moved. He sleep hardened a bit.
So after he pulled his pants down, he lined up
four five matchsticks in his bucket and then he lit 'em.
So man, it was so crazy because he steal the
mattress still of burning, stead of burning, still burning, and
then he f I guess it start. You know, a
person natural reflects, whether you unconscious not, you gonna react
(57:05):
to that, probably, I guess. But uh, he uh squinched
his cheeks together up and put the put the matches out. Man.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
That's when he finally woke up like, man, y'all play
too much.
Speaker 2 (57:17):
Like God, damn uh but say, you know what's know
what the crazy part about it is, now that I'm
older and I told his story, Man, people's like you
wrong for s letting him do it. And and I
I kind of feel that too him. I'm I shoulda
took responsibility instead of laughing at him, you know what
I'm saying. I shoulda been like, man, don't do that.
Man that you know, but you know that that me too.
(57:38):
And you know s A wasn't really as powerful as
it is now as it you know back then, you know,
but uh, if they was to do that right now,
they'll be underneath the jail house, right y.
Speaker 3 (57:52):
So y'all would just stare watching and laughing.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
Well, it was all the funny games a joke to us,
you know, like really Egg and Slim on you know
mind you we it's funny to us cause like I
told you, you, Slim really can't hardly see you know what
I'm saying to.
Speaker 5 (58:06):
Suggest, so just to see him, you know, you know,
back then we used to have uh, you know, we
had beepers and stuff back then, and if Slim beeper
go off.
Speaker 1 (58:18):
He literally would put it up to his face like that.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
To see the numbers, you know that's going off on
his beepers, so you know, just to see Slim the
one that's doing it. You know it was that was
extra funny. You feel me right right right.
Speaker 3 (58:33):
And this n th this is.
Speaker 4 (58:34):
My my final question, h But for you, right, cash
money alumni, living legend right Without UNLV, there may not
be a cash money, may not be a way, may
not be a jewel. It may not be the stars
that we know today.
Speaker 3 (58:59):
The Hot Boys taught it was wildly successful. It was
beautiful to see. I'm glad Turk got included.
Speaker 4 (59:11):
Got it, Shine, I had the privilege and honor of
interviewing tech or Turk right, and this was all prior
to this happening, and it happened. But after it happens,
Turk is kicked off the tour gets into it with
BG on Live n what's your thoughts right because now
(59:34):
they talking about suing and you know it's starting to
get legal.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
What what what's your thoughts on Turk getting kicked off
the Hotboys tour?
Speaker 2 (59:41):
Just for me being in the music business for so
long and being in the music business with two friends,
two close friends.
Speaker 1 (59:56):
Here's what I have to say about that. I totally,
one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Believe that they all conspired to kick Turk off that tour.
And here's why I say that, because if they all
partners and they all getting money together, you mean to
tell me, not one person is gonna stand up and
say all the All they would have took if it
(01:00:25):
was the so called promoter like they trying to paint
the picture, all they would have took was them to say, man,
look if Turk can't come, we ain't gone.
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
You know, the promoter gonna pull Turk.
Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
On that because guess what that front end is already
that that deposit was already paid out. You know you
already you don't wanna lose out on the f the
deposit and the back end. So my thing is nobody
stood up for Turk, so that that clearly states to
me that y'all wanted him off that anyway, y'all valued
(01:00:57):
BG more than y'all value Turk instead of just letting
him make their money together. Be they were scared he
was gonna really you know, pop BJ on when once
they got around each other, so they got him out
the way. You mean to tell me nobody mean ain't
staying up for him. That's because they all conspired against him.
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
How how do you feel about how Turk moved afterwards?
Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
It was a blessing. That was God taking care of him.
That was God taking care of him.
Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
You know what I'm saying. It was it was It
was widely off of his hard work and his dedication.
But for the most part, God took care of him
and showed him I got you, don't worry about that.
And now God them put him in a position where
he can go do his own towards You feel what
I'm saying right without them, you know, right right right?
(01:01:50):
I I that was a dirty move. You aks me, bruh.
Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
Man, w do you do?
Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
You what?
Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
What? What do you feel? Is the future for that?
Can money?
Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
When you and I'm saying because a lot has happened,
right especially since BG has been home. You know what
I mean. I saw Beg go with Gucci, man, you know,
and now it's looking like he's back with Bird.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (01:02:14):
We've seen Wayne leave, money issues, Julie leave, turn rap,
a lot come back, money issues, many fresh you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Leave money issues. Uh you know U n l V.
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Leave money issues, money issues.
Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
You know what I said. I've said that in a
video somewhere. You know, if everybody you know calling you
a thief and everybody leaving, you know, so you're trying
to tell me we all just at some point got
together and said, let's let's fuck with a bird man
e'slim and leave.
Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Let's call it my thief.
Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Nah man, that that's who you are as a you know,
that's your character. So if you at some point you
got to ask and try to figure out what am
I doing wrong? Why is everybody saying this about me?
Why is everybody leaving at some point?
Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
You know what I'm saying. It ain't It ain't everybody else.
It's you, bro.
Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
Yeah, yeah, man, But shout out to them boys.
Speaker 3 (01:03:24):
You know what I'm saying. I like to see it.
I like to see it continuing after so long.
Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Any any black man.
Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Yeah, I think it's definitely something to have the type
of legacy right and to even still have pieces that
might not be on the board, but they still like
yourself and og giggity making a lane in the media.
You know what I'm saying, Having a story and having
a platform you know where the people want to give
bird it's problems you're not. It's like, you know what
(01:03:52):
I'm saying, what they've created has lasted beyond them.
Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
It's h you wanna see any black man wins, especially
as if you are you're a part of that and
you helped that out. You know a lot of people,
uh get rubbed the wrong way when when they hear
me telling my story. But it's just my story. A
lot of times, you know, it's not gonna go in
everybody's favor I'm not.
Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
It's you know, somebody is gonna get rubbed the wrong way.
Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
You know you had Whitney Houston stories, you had Bobby
Brown's stories. You know you had Elvis Preshley stories, Michael
Jackson stories, James Brown stories. Everybody within that story wasn't
talked about in a positive, you know way all the time.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
So it is what it is.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I'm not gonna allow myself to be silenced because his
feelings or her feelings might get hurt. That's my story.
I would rather tell it than allow somebody else to
butcher it up.
Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
You fear me, I do before before we go, cause
I didn't ask you about master P. But I know
during the bat with.
Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
Mystical Mys, school was with no limit, right, and so
to a lot of people it looked like a you know,
cash money versus no limit situation.
Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
But Berdman actually introduced y'all to master P.
Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Yeah it it, you know, it never really got to
uh no limit cash money beef.
Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
It was more like a master P and Birdman egle trip.
Both of 'em felt too big to mess with each other,
and they boath was from uptown, just separated by a
couple of miles, you know what I'm saying, and they
both just they ego you know, didn't allow them to
(01:05:48):
work with each other. You know that that was it.
But uh, my first time meeting uh master P was
uh at a radio station one night. They was at
the ready, they was leaving the radio station and we
was on our way to the radio station. And this
is actually the night I think, Well, Pete was just
coming back to New Orleans recruiting artists and he most
(01:06:12):
of the time, uh, on this particular night, Birdman sat
in the car with him and played in our album
that was just about to drop, you know about his
song so U trying to thing and we bout it, and.
Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Right after that, you know, we get the master p.
Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
Bout it bout it. So that's why I told the
story of that master p. You know, most people, they
they give their opinion about the differences in the two songs,
but they wasn't there the night that I saw Birdman
sit in the car and play our album for him.
You know, he didn't copy our exact cats, but he
definitely copied that idea. Hm.
Speaker 4 (01:06:51):
Well, he ended up approaching all at another time and
offering to buy your.
Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Music right right, which was uh, the Booty bo Okay song.
He was like, well, he sent somebody, he sent one
of his uh colleagues. Uh the guys p uh passed
by now swa swab vibe rest in peace, wiby. But
he sent swab Vibe to us, uh uh and uh
to buy a song from us that actually went number
(01:07:16):
one on the radio. And he he he tried to
offer us peanuts.
Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
And I don't even need to say man, we we
definitely got turned that down. Alright.
Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Well, I mean the pleasure was all mine, you know
what I'm saying. I'm definitely honored to have you here.
Is there anything you wanna let your fans know.
Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Yeah, definitely follow me on Instagram Tech nine UNLV, follow
me and subscribe to my YouTube channel. It is growing
at a rapid pace at Tech nine of U n
LV and it was a pleasure doing this interview with
(01:08:03):
you Man.
Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
Definitely in salute Man until next time. In real told
the TV signing out like
Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Real told this a real money in the room.
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