September 27, 2025 • 43 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
On one hand, it's great to see them be able
to say, hey, we're gonna denounce the bullshit and we're
gonna put our pedigree on this stage and let people know, hey,
we're bigger than what the world and what society says
we are.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We're gonna do this like man. But then on the
other hand, you know what I'm saying, it could confuse.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
A lot of people, like because then people start thinking,
hey man, I could I could come be with all
the and.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It'll be cool in five years.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It don't really happen like that always, you know what
I'm saying, but it may do that. My concern would
be like, you know, why I wouldn't And who am
I to say it hasn't because we can question stuff
all day, But why I wouldn't thug and gunna? You
know I wouldn't throw it be willing to.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Because I can see. I can see it clear to day.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
THU probably like, hey man, look this could have snitched
on me, staying on me.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Year we would beef like I'm gonna past this because
I see he really he's still on here.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He ain't snitch. Lucher came home that I stood on
mind I came home. It's gonna hurt me.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That man says will hurt you know what I'm saying,
hurt him like, that's just the reality of it.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Most men, at most men aren't strong enough, emotionally mature,
emotionally mature.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The real money in the room.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
All right, man, Today on Real Tune TV, we got
an Atlanta hip hop legend music pioneer, young Jock. What
I'm saying before we even get started, before we even
get started, I just you know, I think it's one
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thing to be a great artist. It's another thing to
make multiple hits. It's another thing to be a television star.
Is another thing to have multiple businesses after entertainment, and
then there's another thing to transition into radio, to be able.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
To rebrand yourself and remain relevant in the ways in
what you have.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I don't know if you always get your flowers, but
I wanted to make sure.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You're a real tune. You know what I'm saying that
we extended you.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It will give me a flyer with my brothers while
you still read it. I feel that's for we celebrate
people with flowers all the time. I'm gonna get out
the dog. How we give our lady flower?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know, then when it's time to go the last dance,
the whole layout of flowers.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Put your spelling name in the flowers type of shit.
I'm gonna take him out of the paper over. I
don't want to see.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Him look like I'm on my way to prom shaded
or you know what I'm saying, real spect I respect
that man. Let me tell you why, because it ain't often.
It's not often. It's the gist of accounts, and I
appreciate that brother wholeheartedly.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Let's just go ahead and get the elephant out of
the room.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Young thug.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Okay, he recently came home from jail, sut the Internet
on fire, and before even addressing all of the extras
I saw, he came together with wife and Luci. They
both have a song on each other's album. You know
what I'm saying. That was a big plaque in Atlanta.
How big is that for the city?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
You know, that's an interesting one because it depends on
where you're looking at it from perspective as a you
know what I'm saying. A person's perspective can mean nothing,
can mean everything. So I say that the same It's
fifty to fifty for me, because on one hand, you know,
(03:53):
I'm happy that they were able to find that medium.
To any liaison who stepped then to help them execute
that particular task, shots out to them because it took
a lot, you know what I'm saying. Look how long
it took for JIZI and Gucca to just get on
the versus together. All they were very much disrespectful to
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one another. I would say Gucca was more disrespected disrespectful
the Jeezy on that versus.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know what I'm saying. But they made it happen,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
When I sit back, I'm just like, well, I don't
know how I feel about it. I'm happy that they
was able to get some music together. But if they
was like just recently beefing, you confuse a lot of people. Now,
if that confusion can neutralize some of this, you know
(04:44):
what I'm saying, then on for it, you know what
I mean. But if that, if them coming together creates
a confusion, and that will diminish the concept of loyalty
even more. And I don't know, because you know what
I'm saying, You got some cats feel like, man, I
ride on even and come back and we good to
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get a few years, you know what I'm saying. Like,
you know, I think somewhere that it could be groundbreak, groundbreaking.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It could be the new shift in our culture amongst
black men. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It could be that mum where cat start actually in
front of the world. I can see, I can see
the greatness that comes out of this effort, you know
what I'm saying, Because a lot of times there's in
a dog and you don't even know.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
What's happening type of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And here's a perfect example that means before they before
you knew they did this record, they already was in
the dog doing this record.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You gotta get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So, but because it's a record, it's it's publicized now.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And we know what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But a lot of times we do a lot of
That's why you hear like double crossing, the trip acrossing,
because a lot of done and the dog against people
that you at least suspected to be done too or
done from you see what I'm saying. So I don't
want to get too deep on it. It probably went
too deep right there for a lot of people. But
it's very simple. On one hand, it's great to see
them be able to say, hey, we're gonna denounce the
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bullshit and we're gonna put our pedigree on this stage
and let people know, hey, we're bigger than what the
world and what society says we are.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
We're gonna do this like man.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But then on the other hand, you know what I'm saying,
it could confuse a lot of people, like because then
people start thinking, hey man, I could I could come
be with all the and it'll be cool in five years.
It don't really happen like that always, you know what
I'm saying, but it may do that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
A My concern would be like, you know, why I.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Wouldn't and who am I to say it hasn't because
we can question stuff all day, But why I wouldn't
thug and gonna you know, I wouldn't thug.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Be willing to because I can see it. I can
see it clear to day.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Thud probably like, hey man, look this could have snitched
on me, staying on me at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, we were beefing before.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like I'm more past this because I see he really
he's stood on here. He ain't snitch. Luther came home
and I stood, don't mind. I came home. It's gonna
hurt me. That man say hurt you know what I'm saying,
hurt him, Like that's just the reality of it. Most
men ain't. Most men aren't.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Strong enough, emotionally mature, emotionally mature.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Just it's just not back to be able to say,
you know, I apologize, I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I'm hurt, you know, heartbroken. You know what I'm saying,
your heart? Are you hurt? Hey? No, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
The man came and said, you ain't hurt me, And
that's why you're getting him standing on that one thing.
Some people are like huh because it looked like bro
did the same thing a lot of mother people did.
And it his defense, good defense. He's like, MANU would
the mother, but did it them? Other people ain't gunning.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Them? Other people, not him, you know what I'm saying.
And like I got right, and then I got my
wife shut on me. All their lungs kind of like
it's kind of expected, but my wife shit on me,
like I don't even see these here no more. That's
just that fair, Like what are you you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Know what I'm saying, not saying gun and him and
no while I'm just saying, it's my brother, my partners,
even though his real brother was in there.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But you know what I'm saying, this is my and
he don't.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
He's having the most money out of everybody, right me
and you having the money.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You were having the bag.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So if I got to fight this, why need you
in here to help me fight this? You know what
I'm saying, That's that's thorught probably like, but we the
United Front. We got to show the world. Thug probably
wanted it to look like him and bro like why
he said, well we get like whooped to do, like
at least we go out of this.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Real I don't know if you really felt like that
in real life.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It sounds good as an afterthought, you know what I'm saying, Like, damn,
well you really that type of shit? But whatever, I
just it is what it is, man. It's all learning
the process. It ain't been with fifty years of hip hop.
If I've been in for twenty of them, it ain't
been that long, you know what I'm saying. So people
are still learning still, People people are still going, People
are still evolving and we're gonna continue to see the
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climate change over time.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So well, a lot of people feel like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What Thug did.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
In addition to the tapes coming out, like the leaked
audios and the interrogation audio, they feel like Gunna got
an unfair shape. You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Everybody basically did this, including you. You took a plea
at the end of the day. As far as that.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
You in the streets. You know what I'm saying. When
I say the streets, I mean the industry. How do
people how are people now embracing Gunner? Like did he
get it bad?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I'm gonna be honest with you, man, I think you
got your few who still want to hold on to
the old gone all right, you got a few people
that still do that. It's got some people just can't
see it all the way. They would Thug all the way,
like fuck it wrong, right, I'm with Thug, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What I'm saying. Then you got some people like well
man going on with that.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Gonn ahead and get on, Gunna, wudn't really out here
in the streets like that would to be having taken
even the charge of like so you know, I got
some people like man that you know, some people don't look.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
At like, but this is my little cousin, my little brother,
you were my son. You know what I'm saying. My partner,
you goat you, haven't you on? You on fire?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You're on top right now, and then you feel like
it just be punked up for life on some some
some rico act type of coalking about because it is
a game.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Mm hm, I caused about it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Tell hey, man, get yours out of them because.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Everybody going out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I don't know, man, I think people respecting the
fact that he came on and dropped this. You know
what I'm saying, when he hit, when he hits, when
he hit the folk, fuck you mean and went up
through the.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Then got in that gym on because I think this
was like, oh, but.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I think thug more hurt because like he probably felt
like Gunner. They have to say nothing because everybody knew
Gunner name won't even in the paperwork.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He was wont to walk anyway. So like, bro, you
the land that guy in there, You're the.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Biggest person outside of me, everybody else under this guy
damn record at you is the next you the next
man in charge, So I didn't all.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You have to do around with me? Be good that
like you tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And it's a little bit of a big dog little.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Dog going on right though too right there.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Like little bro, you know what I'm saying, like, Hey,
I love you bad. Look listen to me.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I did. I put it on the line for you.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Why I sacrifice for you to change your life, your
family life, where you straight for life.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Make sure you take care of me, hold me down.
That's why Thug hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Right, even if you tell Nigga to do some boys,
even you tell Nigga to do something wrong, you think
they're supposed to just go with your motion. You know
what I'm saying, when you have to change it like
you don't really put them up through that. And I
think that's why brother just came like man, fuck that.
I like like he's supposed to do that at some time.
Understand that everybody ain't built the way you think they,
and everybody ain't built on what you're built on, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So you see.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
The leap calls come out.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, earlier we were talking about flowers and credibility, and
I feel like Thug is one of those people who
it was just assumed. I remember, I remember back when
I was staying in Atlante, I went to the BMF.
It was like a BMF movie premiere or whatever, the
television show premiere.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And I just saw the aura, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
And now looking it's like you see everybody kind of
turned because they heard some of his inner thoughts.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Do you think that's gonna hurt him long term?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Nah? Nah? You know it's the silliest part of it.
It just humanizes the more.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Make it like, man, I don't know why people be
thinking artists like some supernatural type. Like they just thinking
who was able to figure out how to utilize something
like music and keep you entertained Outside of that, these
niggas be regular people, man, Like they got down some
of the two people for them to be conceived. You
know what I'm saying. You know, they had an ambilical cord.
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You know what I'm saying when they get when they
got here, ain't no shit, couldn't do shit. Somebody had to.
Ain't no different than us. I ain't no different than.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You, thog Like shit, I sit here around other artists and.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Be like, oh, I like how bro Henley had been
there like Bro his ship, and I also haven't been
around arm like Bro now on his ship. I'm pretty
sure somebody tells me, I like how Bro Handley ship,
and somebody probably said Bro not on his ship. You
know what I'm saying, People gonna people gonna be, people
gonna be who they're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I forgot what the question you asked me that comments
are going that world?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right now, I'm sticking to what I was saying. What
did you ask me? The credibility? Does he lose it? Nah,
you lose it. You're gonna lose it regardless. Let me
tell you how your credibility. This is what happened. Happens
with credibility as your as you go and time goes.
Think about this for a hood nigga. Right, let's just
keep all the ways sided.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Nigga. Who got the streets involved? Who love them?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Over time, your supporters are gonna naturally diminish because you're
in the streets. Should you support us, that's what come
back and supports you to the streets. He's gonna get locked up,
he's gonna die. You know you Thias gonna go through
some wild ship because they're in the streets.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Shit, they're gonna change their life and I do.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Won't listen nigga, I'm listening to the soul. I ain't
going back to jail now. I got shot sometimes, you
know what I'm saying, Just go the other way.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You don't naturally little support you gonna have.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
People are gonna get older than like you know, it's cool.
I don't really go out no more, you know what
I'm saying. Then the new kids, they ain't on your
at they ain't the same, like they know who you is.
But man, they looking at the niggas who look like them,
who got down and got them wearing saying talking like
this for a little nigga be moving off fast thinking
it's just the nigga moving out, no pills and ship.
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That's why niggas move like that, emulating it thinking that's
the way ship. And I'm just saying, Man, at the
end of the day, like Nigga's gonna lose supporters, you're
gonna probably gain. So he human at the end of
the day, this is probably good for him. Believing it
or not, people like oh because he comes If he
comes back from this, then he he's considered champion because
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then he's able to do it again.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's like Chris Brown when Chris Brown went through the
like you.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Think Chris Brown gonna he's over his doom. He'll never
he'll look ship him and take of drug. Then like
still not trying to let him back in, and.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That here he is.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
It's just like yoh, fucker's paying him a thousand dollars
to take pictures with him.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
The very the very man who's just.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
On Front Street years ago, like oh my god, he
said this thatah blah lah. But now women, women, even men,
we are willing to pay this man a thousand dollars
to take a picture with him, Which means if he
goes to if he does ten concerts, right and he
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takes he does that package with one hundred people at
ten concerts, how many people is that? It's a thousand, right,
a thousand people times of thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
How much is that? It's about ten thousand? No, no sir.
If he charges each person a thousand dollars, that's one
of two three zeros.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And he do that times a thousand, a thousand seen
people talk about that's a ticket, where yeah, that's a ticket,
and he can do extra million dollars in ten dates
taking pictures. If that ain't showing you how to champion
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your shortcomings, these obstacles, you know, if that ain't showing
the nigga had a champion, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So here's the opportunity for Thug too.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Rebrand. He got a rebrand. It's still gonna be Thug.
It's still gonna be a you know what I'm saying.
He can't just come out and say ooh scoodie and
I ain't talking properly now. He gotta he got to
come with what he's coming with. And when I leave him,
I'm gonna listen to the album and just go sit
down with it. Well lose it? Who shi it just drops?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
What else? Album just dropped? Who? And I was listening
someone of them to anyway, Well, last.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Question to get off the thug.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
But I did see an interview where Rollo essentially said
that Thug was the reason that Atlanta is apart. In Texas,
we look at Atlanta like together, like a lot of
people feel like they got the blueprint, Like if we
can just do what they did, like nobody can stop us.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like it may not be like that out there.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I don't know, but from what I can tell, like
it is or it has been like united. Do you
think that like Rallo had a point in what he
was said or is it just he's hurt from not
being embraced after his chill situation.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know, this is what I'll say, honestly. Honestly, I don't.
I don't never come all the way.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Sometimes, you know, when you're in the streets, you know
you know other truths that people don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It's like if you running with niggas in the city
from all over every side of the time, you gonna
know a lot of bending that going.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
On in the streets. You gonna know all the rumors.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You don't know fucking who allegedly, who double cross, who
trip across and allegedly you know all the whole niggas,
You know, all the whole who really get money? Who
ain't you know what I'm saying, You start launching because
you are here amongst the world.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You are in the trenches. I think all those niggas trenches, man.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And so when you can pick up your phone and
you can call ten different millionaires who come from ten
different sectors, in ten different labels, ten different backgrounds.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Ten different crews. You kind of in the end, you
know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And so I think for a Raalo to be able
to say he feel like thug, you know, mail caused
a lot of that divide, Well.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Guess what, sometimes it happened just like that. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's how he called, That's how he said, that's that's
the I'm gonna just sit back and let Ralo say
what he's say. And then I sit back and I say, well,
is it just thug or did it? Was it niggas
who was really on some shit and was willing to
do whatever they wanted to do, and just so happened
big homay fuck with is on going the way anyway?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Y'all just can't give one man all the credit. You
can't get what I'm saying. But I will say this.
I will say this one thing about Atlanta. We're cordial.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
We've always been core or so what y'all seeing and
these lately is dismantling of.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The industry when it comes to these labels.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Ship you got more independent artists, now, you got more
artists right now, who who rocking.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean that that's Hendling ship.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Because you got a lot of the bigger artists who
was able to sustain after these labels. They are independent
now whatever, got a little distribution deal, but they still
dropping redd.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But because they so big, it still look like they
would have labeled. You know what I'm saying, you got
a lot of these cats who learn how to survive.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And I think in Atlanta without having these different labels
like in the figures, kind of keep shit together. I
think somewhere of that kind of causes of you know
what I'm saying. It's all right now, I rot with you.
Co we went to the same school.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Don't fuck with you. I don't know. You don't really
have shit in coming the other day. We're black. We
went to the same school.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Now we saying on the same time, same side of town.
But because we went to this school together, I fucked
with you.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You see what I'm saying. Nigga. You you always where
you from. I'm from Houston, you from he was down
from Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
We both got down in the ben Capital's a cute dogs.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I don't even know you, nigga, but we under the
same regime. Hey, I fuck with you. So them labels,
I think a lot of time from the production companies
as a production label right to the actual labels, the
big labels.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I think sometimes niggas would take under that like we're
on the same team ship, so.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
They keep it cool. And in Atlanta, you got nigga
we went to the.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Same school, right, Oh, we got the same homeway. Oh,
but we got the same producer. Buy we got the
same plug. Niggas kind of with like you know, it's
a coming out of there. It's it's something to stand on.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And I think in Atlanta that's what one of the
things we saw that was able to win because we
had forefathers in Atlanta from from freedom fighters to civil
rights leaders. That's what you had. That's what you had
in Atlanta. That's the that's all. Ain't no regular soil.
You're talking about the birthplace of the civil rights man.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
For me, you do even be able to see and
do this ship now right there from the salt on
from so it's other set.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It's other things that transpired before we even conceived as
to why we can stand here to there and do
what we do.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And they got ship to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
No rap, you know, what I'm saying, you got real
freedom the motherfuckersout.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Hey, I might not fuck with you, but you're black.
Come on launch with me, you know what I'm saying.
So Atlanta always has had That's why people ever come there.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You come to Atlanta, you got this conglomerate of institutions,
historically black colleges, the university that it's HBCUs.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You got a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Then you look around and you got other private institutes around.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Then you also look up, and then you got your
state facilities.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You know what I'm saying, your technical colleges, You got
your private colleges, and then you got your HBCUs.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
She got a lot of people that come right there
to learn. Oh man b brunh on. My sister, he
went to school with my I fucked with him. Oh
he doing some music. Well, we got some beats.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Let me hear it beat now and now you go
boom And then you got the biggest record and it
came out for the next two years. All the way
they fucked with each other because his sister and him
went to school together.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So I think that's where Atlanta comes in first place.
When when you got that shit like that. You know
what I'm saying. You had a babyface and uh you
had a baby face and La Reid to makeland face.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Right, and it came together and made magic together again.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's what we're talking about, the unification right right, What
made Alanda so strong?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I think that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And sometimes, you know, you go through a cycle, you
go through a period. Everything will always be great, you
know what I'm saying. You know, always be the best
of buddies and chums and buddy old pals twenty four seven,
something like, bro brother, leave the fuck alone for a minute,
if the fuck back, Jacker, don't even I don't want.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm irritated you like you don't understand. Just give me
a second. I think we have one of the moments.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Right now, speaking of putting it there, chunk mm hm.
I remember.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
You did an interview and your reference little Flip saying
basically that tea pain came up to him, tried to
introduce itself. It was a cool moment in Dallas or
something like that at a show and little Flip distance
Little Flip came out and basically said you was captain.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Hello, what you just said you don't cap right, I don't.
I mean, just keep it on, honey. Man, you know what,
let me say that it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I ran in the pain that paint like man, I'm
like what like manh yeah, do you mean when I'm like,
what do you mean? Pain denoted to man? Pain, I'm
looking at pain like nigga, this this, this ship happened.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
But then and then it done on me one day Hm.
I said, Yeah, people like these stories, but a lot
of people like some of these stories are untold.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Some people like for shit that just seemed magical and
not know.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I want you to be to recount my steps, some
be able to recollect my moves.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Everybody don't want you to see how that happens.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And then some people think a nigga being a chatty
patter because he exposed some shit. I'm just telling my
truth and you happen to be a part of my
truth that I told, Right, And then I think, bab
I say, niggas be drunk, niggas be on dope. I
ain't saying pain. What I'm saying, flip, I'm just saying
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that niggas be hot. Niggas don't be remembering shit and
I And then when you hear Nigga in the interview
saying man, I was man, I was out of my mind.
I don't remember having shit I was doing and saying that,
then it's like, okay, well that's the credibility. So when
I asked you about something and I start realizing, I'm like,
damn the story I told when he told me that
at the that happened that day, So my mam and
Nigga rests in peace.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
We went by what what what the what the the anatoly?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
What that ship is in Dallas anatotally the hotel anatotally Anthabella,
whatever one of them. I think Adam told listen this
ship of it. At the end of the day, we
went back to that bar in the hotel lobby and
we were sitting there.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
A brother Feltson kind of way. He had a good concert.
The first time I met Maya Ship, I was like, damn,
my fucking damn. She really looked ship.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That was the first time I had seen it was
the first time, but it was the first time I
seen Orlando or Brown doing music.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
He was there performing the show like Nigga Nigga. From
that so I got Atlanta Broan like, what up dropping?
You feel me rapping? I was like, yeah, nigga, I'm
rapping this nigga.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You got fat from kid, you know. So when the
nigga be trying to tell me camp and bruh oh, nigga,
I would have. And then when his partners reached out
to me little boy. You know what I'm saying, DJ,
little Boy, h J Lyric Tay that email, I mean
the them that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Bro We shouldn't tell the story with you, but we were.
You definitely got hit it on it. Okay. I could
have put that ship out but for what I love
paying it wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I never said I never put that story out there
to cause any grief or to you know what I'm saying,
challenge a man's integrity any of that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I just was too hot and ship.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
When I sit back and think about the story sometimes like,
dam I'm gratefully happy like that.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
At that time, I hadn't heard from Flip. I don't
think Flip was in the news at that time.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You know what I'm saying. He's been in the news, lady,
but at that time he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I thought you actually did him a.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Favor, you know, like it was a good story.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Well, here's the thing, you know, I think Flip is
smart enough to know that down this story might have
made me seem this whole a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It made me seem like I wouldn't get a nigga
left their nigga like pain that ship.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And I don't need nobody, none of his followers or
none of his meanions coming at me.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I don't want to be in the headline shit, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
You know, so maybe like I ain't really have, but
I'm gonna tell her how I see it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I ain't up with one thing about me. I ain't
gonna anybody know me.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Don't ever hope it heard me tell a story once.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I fucking one time, and that time I tell it,
they'll know it. They know how to go because they
don't remember it.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm gonna be detailed and it don't change up that bitch,
don't change Well, we're forward. Well we ate the y
that time we would nigga it was four for that?
Would it gonna befa that what you heard the first time?
Every time I tell that bit till I.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Die gonna sign the same way.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I mean, add little one fliction. I may add a
little less to Pio, how the fuck I feel that day.
I'm not gonna change my story off. Anybody knows me
to tell you at Gino at Chino Dollar about me
and my storytelling time. Them niggas know my stories because
I can talk about my stories over and over again,
because every time I tell them stories, it gonna hit
the same way.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
So the city of Atlanta, I wonder if it's as
bad as they say or if the police really have
something out against rappers.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
We saw it was like as as almost as.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
As the thug case was ending, right. And I don't
know if you remember when Boosie first came down there,
but he was saying, like, you know, the reason he
left was because of how bad the laws was in
Van Rouge, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And when you go through these.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Little small towns in the South, like the police will
harass you if you have money. I remember seeing the
police come out and essentially make it as if they
were gonna, you know, push your go on a little baby.
Do you think that the Atlanta police department like has
a theme against rappers?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
No, man, they got a thing against bullshit.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Fuck the fuck the rappers, niggas, the ship you're doing
because a nigga some money getting paper ain't broke.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
If you look a mind, he pays. Right now, you'll
see the man who who who?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
The architect who built Booth's house, that big ass mansion.
Me and it was together yesterday. I'm building mansions too.
I'm selling them though what I give it being his nights,
I'm I'm serious. So what I'm telling is a lot
of niggas that got money, and a lot of the
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niggas around them don't got money. You understand what I'm saying.
So imagine a nigga who got money, he already feel
entitled in a lot of ways and feel privileged, feel like,
you know, nigga smooth just make through shit because of
who they are, because of my celebrity, my credibility, my
face card.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
How nigga be like, man, I ain't got to do
that show becose than me that you funk talking about.
Out Let me in then meet man. I won't spend
a little money. Come on and get in the other nigga.
W ain't you know you were coming tonight?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But because you're a celebrity will do a celebrity spect
Oh my hey, okay, man, how many y'all? Hey, Man,
get him and get him on table. Do that's such
as such? They're important, man. When the nigga trying to
pay his bills, man, yeah, you might help him spense
it apps a lot of promoter things. But what I'm
saying is, at the end of the day, man, you
can't the niggas that gonna be around you. That's why,
that's why I want to point out the dead nigga.
(32:38):
Sometime the artists right, the niggas around them.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
They don't got the bag he got. They don't have
the resources he got, even though he's their resource. He's
there bad.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And when when them niggas go out they create issues
that nigga, it'll happen with me. It happens the more niggas.
It don't even beat that nigga. It don't niggas. You
know what I'm saying, And all that the police don't like. Man,
we don't have issue like that in Alanna for real,
not for real, for real. Yeah, it looked like you
(33:10):
got niggas out here and it's one of niggas and
you got niggas and nigga getting shot and killed.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Then you mother fucking issues man, what you mean? What
you mean now? If you you lo here, I don't
have no issues, right, motherfucking issue. I'm chilling.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm getting money. I'm doing being the motherfuckers, excuse my language,
be in the morning show personality and a man of detergurity.
I shouldn't you like fuck Dad, Listen, you're gonna look
at the south Side Day Me my partner tour, my
partner Ray Daniels.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
We went and got nine different mayors, brought them together,
The police departments brought them together, the fire department brought
them together for our day to celebrate the south Side.
You know what I'm saying, Most robbers not doing that.
They ain't doing that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
The male gonna get them to come perform.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The mayor gonna get them to come speak, The mayor
gonna get them to be a partner. No, nigga, I'm
gonna go get them and that's them to be a
part What the fuck I'm doing because I'm gonna write.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
My own narrative.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
All these niggas ain't it ain't that they're not smart
enough to write down narratives, but everything around them not
set up to move in the direction like that. It's
just not it's you know what I'm saying, it's just
not bro so all that the police be giving us
niggas and shit, man, these niggas rich, These niggas is
out three in the morning, four in the more and
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five in the morning. Niggas rich, women, drugs, liquor calls,
having the time in your life, you know with that shit.
Because niggas is ungoverned. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Niggas is ungoverned.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You can't fly down the street got ah doing goddamn
seventy five in the thirty five, right, and I expect
at least the.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Fuck which right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm not saying Boosie and me, but a lot of
time be the niggas around us that create that extra
flat for us. Right.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Let me ask you my last question, all right, and
I asked this for more on some advice type tip.
Come on, because you were one of the few artists
who came in the game married, you know what I'm saying,
which is commendable.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You also got a divorce brother offset after twelve years
after twelve years. That's the first off.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You know, more flowers.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
You know what I'm saying, brother, Offset. We see what
he's going through.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
We see.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Cardi B now pregnant. The divorce isn't finalized.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You know, I haven't been married, but I do know
on what it's like to be in a relationship into
you know what I'm saying, to be hurting them, don't
want to crash out.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
If you got any advice that you could give to.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Our fellow brother, what would it be.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Search deep in your heart, brother, Search deep in your heart,
because a scorn woman is one thing. A scorn man
is a whole other situation. And I think Offset has
to be careful in this because there's a lot of
technicalities that work for him as well as against him. Honestly,
(36:41):
I think that he's gonna have to do some soul searching.
He's gonna have to find it in his heart to
forgive her. She's gonna have to find in her heart
to forgive him. They're gonna have to move.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
On past this moment.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
He got to heal, and then healing, you gotta keep
people out of your bediness moving forward.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I'm saying that trying to heal the minute somebody doesn't
agree with what you agree with now, what you believe in.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Now, now you go back and start questioning your growth,
You start questioning your healing process and your healing journey,
because at the end of the day, no matter who
you was before she conceived this child, this is another man.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
This next man that I know he got kids with
cardon right, I think three, and I know because you.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Got three, he ain't got but one. It don't it
don't go the weight, don't move like that. It don't
matter no more. It's like even though he got three
and that ship like even like you, you don't get
no more pulled than he gets.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And he heard a new man now, so now he
down that got more rank than you. Ain't no damn
than he do. But the kids with her, and the
kid's gonna move.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
How she move here when she moved, and she gonna
move how she moved with him when he moved. So
even though you once had like this control because you
got a kid, it ain't the same no more, because
now she got a kid with a whole nother man.
So you got another man who got some real say
so within the household that your kids dwell in as well.
(38:20):
So what I would suggest to anybody in this position
of predicament, especially offset, just fall back, lay low, continue
to build yourself, work on your career, make sure you
are able to continue to be the man, the.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Father that you want to be and that you let
the world know that you are. All the others it
ain't gonna.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Matter because you got to find it in yourself to
find your peace, because this is only gonna get worse
and worse.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
It gets worse if you play into it with the
negative uh, if you feed it with negative fuel.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
But he gotta figure out a way to be like,
you know what, card he said I fucked up. That's
I fucked up. Like that not saying he hasn't said it,
but it's the first time I heard I fucked up.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I was like, you know what, that's the start of healing,
because now you got to realize it's not just on
the other person. It's not one you fucked up too.
And you might think she mail fucked up some time,
her fuck us was because you. It was contingent upon
your fuck ups. You know what I'm saying. That's how
I have to see life sometime like when my woman
get to going crazy, talking, going going off on me,
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I don't walk away, bitch.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I more with it. I have to thank myself. I
got and did so much shit.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Just take this little out Dawn, this verbal ass well,
and that's why she's just she's pressing herself.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Nigga. He gonna have to become friends with her because
she's gonna need him again emotionally. Remember I told you
that I remember.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Let me look at the can't remember, and he's gonna
need her again because they have children together.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Don't ever forget that. I don't be man. You go
through some of the worst.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Times in your life with the woman that you once loved,
I was in love with because you never stop loving.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You may fall out of love with him, but you
really don't fall out of love. You fall out alike
you know you the love is death. You just stop
liking them.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
The more infractions you have against me in our relationship,
the less I like you, I mean, the likability diminishes.
It feels like the love goes away, but the love
never goes anywhere because you love off real.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I mean, I love this nigga, man, I love you
some fun shit. They don't love you. Nobody just don't
like you no more. So they gotta get to a
space where they could like each other again.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
And the usually starts as being able to say we
are friends again, and that takes some time to hear
to get past it.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
But the fuck shit, fuck shit them, you know, but
they'll be right. This ain't nothing no different than we are.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Some of us here because of a nigga got our
mama pregnant while she was in another relationship. I ain't
gonna hold you. It's it's not happening. It's it's it's
somebody who like, Wow, man, I wanted to be here
and my mama you know what I'm saying, or my
daddy didn't got damn whoo whoop behind my mom.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I went and beat. That's just what it is, man.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
So the all pairs, it's just what's happening today is
topical and it's the biggest thing to talk about. Come
next week, it to be somebody else, some more dramma,
some more news, and I'll be.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Right back on somebody else's.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Podcast talking about it, or on my morning show, Young
Jack in the Streets Morning take Over sixty ten each
and every weekday morning you would catch me. We nationally
syndicated miss shatne and shot to shout it.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
And you just know how we have it.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
We haven't it all wake up with no folks at
any time of the day. Thank you and thank you
for sure, for sure this was before you get out
of here. I just gotta let you know this was
one of the realist interviews.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I appreciate that, regardless of how messy it could have gotten.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
I feel like you just took it to a place where,
like men don't normally look you know what I'm saying
from a real emotionally intelligent perspective.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You know what I'm saying, and I feel like we
need that. You know what I'm saying, and so you know, I.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Just think, man, we gotta realize when we're wrong. We wrong. Man,
I think men a lot of times we're taught to
not you know, ever want to seem wrong. You know,
they want to seem tired. You know, I want to
seem incapable, unable.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
We don't ever want to look like that. So a
lot of niggas stand on this mato, this bravado type
of it's it's a bratto type of stance. That we
tell me this, this, this, this, this, this, I'm that man,
this Bravado, this Nigga, I'm always right, nigga, I'm the man,
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and we.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Suck up, fuck up.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
And the worst thing is for you to stand on
some ship like that and you look at one day
and you realize how wrong you was, and he be
looking back like man, I like him in here, and
you go from that. Sometimes nigga have to you have
the skin. You need to know the guy they're going
to put some guy dawn paths on so it don't
happen again.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
You know what I'm saying. Some niggas had to get
burnt to learn, well, Roberts Well, so nigga gets slapped
to learn to keep their mouth clothed. Uh huh. But
once you know, you know, I don't believe that one
man for real?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Let me get a real tune TV.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Your money, a pub shot here ship the one room
we got nomn ship ship fell out before we get
out there, real ton TV. Yes, sir ready, Hey, look man,
your favorite cousin checking in.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't care where you at the cook out of
the Freedom. I'm gonna be right there and I'm gonna
be showing a little you're on JLC.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I love you, man, And what it is again? Tone?
What for money in the room?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Who?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Real tone? Who real? Shouts out the real tone? Man?
You know so I might have to make sure I
come through turned down the H time and show a
little man whenever I'm in the city. Man, I'll rock
out with you again, my boy, A real tone. This
some real money in the room.
On one hand, it's great to see them be able
to say, hey, we're gonna denounce the bullshit and we're
gonna put our pedigree on this stage and let people know, hey,
we're bigger than what the world and what society says
we are.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
We're gonna do this like man. But then on the
other hand, you know what I'm saying, it could confuse.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
A lot of people, like because then people start thinking,
hey man, I could I could come be with all
the and.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It'll be cool in five years.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It don't really happen like that always, you know what
I'm saying, but it may do that. My concern would
be like, you know, why I wouldn't And who am
I to say it hasn't because we can question stuff
all day, But why I wouldn't thug and gunna? You
know I wouldn't throw it be willing to.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Because I can see. I can see it clear to day.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
THU probably like, hey man, look this could have snitched
on me, staying on me.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
At the end of the day.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Year we would beef like I'm gonna past this because
I see he really he's still on here.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
He ain't snitch. Lucher came home that I stood on
mind I came home. It's gonna hurt me.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That man says will hurt you know what I'm saying,
hurt him like, that's just the reality of it.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Most men, at most men aren't strong enough, emotionally mature,
emotionally mature.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
The real money in the room.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
All right, man, Today on Real Tune TV, we got
an Atlanta hip hop legend music pioneer, young Jock. What
I'm saying before we even get started, before we even
get started, I just you know, I think it's one
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thing to be a great artist. It's another thing to
make multiple hits. It's another thing to be a television star.
Is another thing to have multiple businesses after entertainment, and
then there's another thing to transition into radio, to be able.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
To rebrand yourself and remain relevant in the ways in
what you have.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
I don't know if you always get your flowers, but
I wanted to make sure.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
You're a real tune. You know what I'm saying that
we extended you.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It will give me a flyer with my brothers while
you still read it. I feel that's for we celebrate
people with flowers all the time. I'm gonna get out
the dog. How we give our lady flower?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
You know, then when it's time to go the last dance,
the whole layout of flowers.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Put your spelling name in the flowers type of shit.
I'm gonna take him out of the paper over. I
don't want to see.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Him look like I'm on my way to prom shaded
or you know what I'm saying, real spect I respect
that man. Let me tell you why, because it ain't often.
It's not often. It's the gist of accounts, and I
appreciate that brother wholeheartedly.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Let's just go ahead and get the elephant out of
the room.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Young thug.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Okay, he recently came home from jail, sut the Internet
on fire, and before even addressing all of the extras
I saw, he came together with wife and Luci. They
both have a song on each other's album. You know
what I'm saying. That was a big plaque in Atlanta.
How big is that for the city?
Speaker 1 (03:29):
You know, that's an interesting one because it depends on
where you're looking at it from perspective as a you
know what I'm saying. A person's perspective can mean nothing,
can mean everything. So I say that the same It's
fifty to fifty for me, because on one hand, you know,
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I'm happy that they were able to find that medium.
To any liaison who stepped then to help them execute
that particular task, shots out to them because it took
a lot, you know what I'm saying. Look how long
it took for JIZI and Gucca to just get on
the versus together. All they were very much disrespectful to
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one another. I would say Gucca was more disrespected disrespectful
the Jeezy on that versus.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
You know what I'm saying. But they made it happen,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
When I sit back, I'm just like, well, I don't
know how I feel about it. I'm happy that they
was able to get some music together. But if they
was like just recently beefing, you confuse a lot of people. Now,
if that confusion can neutralize some of this, you know
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what I'm saying, then on for it, you know what
I mean. But if that, if them coming together creates
a confusion, and that will diminish the concept of loyalty
even more. And I don't know, because you know what
I'm saying, You got some cats feel like, man, I
ride on even and come back and we good to
(05:06):
get a few years, you know what I'm saying. Like,
you know, I think somewhere that it could be groundbreak, groundbreaking.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
It could be the new shift in our culture amongst
black men. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
It could be that mum where cat start actually in
front of the world. I can see, I can see
the greatness that comes out of this effort, you know
what I'm saying, Because a lot of times there's in
a dog and you don't even know.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
What's happening type of you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And here's a perfect example that means before they before
you knew they did this record, they already was in
the dog doing this record.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
You gotta get what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
So, but because it's a record, it's it's publicized now.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
And we know what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
But a lot of times we do a lot of
That's why you hear like double crossing, the trip acrossing,
because a lot of done and the dog against people
that you at least suspected to be done too or
done from you see what I'm saying. So I don't
want to get too deep on it. It probably went
too deep right there for a lot of people. But
it's very simple. On one hand, it's great to see
them be able to say, hey, we're gonna denounce the
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bullshit and we're gonna put our pedigree on this stage
and let people know, hey, we're bigger than what the
world and what society says we are.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
We're gonna do this like man.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
But then on the other hand, you know what I'm saying,
it could confuse a lot of people, like because then
people start thinking, hey man, I could I could come
be with all the and it'll be cool in five years.
It don't really happen like that always, you know what
I'm saying, but it may do that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
A My concern would be like, you know, why I.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Wouldn't and who am I to say it hasn't because
we can question stuff all day, But why I wouldn't
thug and gonna you know, I wouldn't thug.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Be willing to because I can see it. I can
see it clear to day.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Thud probably like, hey man, look this could have snitched
on me, staying on me at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Yeah, we were beefing before.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Like I'm more past this because I see he really
he's stood on here. He ain't snitch. Luther came home
and I stood, don't mind. I came home. It's gonna
hurt me. That man say hurt you know what I'm saying,
hurt him, Like that's just the reality of it. Most
men ain't. Most men aren't.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Strong enough, emotionally mature, emotionally mature.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Just it's just not back to be able to say,
you know, I apologize, I was wrong.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I'm hurt, you know, heartbroken. You know what I'm saying,
your heart? Are you hurt? Hey? No, I'm good.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
The man came and said, you ain't hurt me, And
that's why you're getting him standing on that one thing.
Some people are like huh because it looked like bro
did the same thing a lot of mother people did.
And it his defense, good defense. He's like, MANU would
the mother, but did it them? Other people ain't gunning.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Them? Other people, not him, you know what I'm saying.
And like I got right, and then I got my
wife shut on me. All their lungs kind of like
it's kind of expected, but my wife shit on me,
like I don't even see these here no more. That's
just that fair, Like what are you you.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
Know what I'm saying, not saying gun and him and
no while I'm just saying, it's my brother, my partners,
even though his real brother was in there.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But you know what I'm saying, this is my and
he don't.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
He's having the most money out of everybody, right me
and you having the money.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You were having the bag.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
So if I got to fight this, why need you
in here to help me fight this? You know what
I'm saying, That's that's thorught probably like, but we the
United Front. We got to show the world. Thug probably
wanted it to look like him and bro like why
he said, well we get like whooped to do, like
at least we go out of this.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Real I don't know if you really felt like that
in real life.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
It sounds good as an afterthought, you know what I'm saying, Like, damn,
well you really that type of shit? But whatever, I
just it is what it is, man. It's all learning
the process. It ain't been with fifty years of hip hop.
If I've been in for twenty of them, it ain't
been that long, you know what I'm saying. So people
are still learning still, People people are still going, People
are still evolving and we're gonna continue to see the
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climate change over time.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So well, a lot of people feel like.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
What Thug did.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
In addition to the tapes coming out, like the leaked
audios and the interrogation audio, they feel like Gunna got
an unfair shape. You know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Everybody basically did this, including you. You took a plea
at the end of the day. As far as that.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
You in the streets. You know what I'm saying. When
I say the streets, I mean the industry. How do
people how are people now embracing Gunner? Like did he
get it bad?
Speaker 1 (10:11):
I'm gonna be honest with you, man, I think you
got your few who still want to hold on to
the old gone all right, you got a few people
that still do that. It's got some people just can't
see it all the way. They would Thug all the way,
like fuck it wrong, right, I'm with Thug, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What I'm saying. Then you got some people like well
man going on with that.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Gonn ahead and get on, Gunna, wudn't really out here
in the streets like that would to be having taken
even the charge of like so you know, I got
some people like man that you know, some people don't look.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
At like, but this is my little cousin, my little brother,
you were my son. You know what I'm saying. My partner,
you goat you, haven't you on? You on fire?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
You're on top right now, and then you feel like
it just be punked up for life on some some
some rico act type of coalking about because it is
a game.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Mm hm, I caused about it.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Tell hey, man, get yours out of them because.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Everybody going out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
So I don't know, man, I think people respecting the
fact that he came on and dropped this. You know
what I'm saying, when he hit, when he hits, when
he hit the folk, fuck you mean and went up
through the.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Then got in that gym on because I think this
was like, oh, but.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
I think thug more hurt because like he probably felt
like Gunner. They have to say nothing because everybody knew
Gunner name won't even in the paperwork.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
He was wont to walk anyway. So like, bro, you
the land that guy in there, You're the.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Biggest person outside of me, everybody else under this guy
damn record at you is the next you the next
man in charge, So I didn't all.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You have to do around with me? Be good that
like you tell you.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And it's a little bit of a big dog little.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Dog going on right though too right there.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Like little bro, you know what I'm saying, like, Hey,
I love you bad. Look listen to me.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I did. I put it on the line for you.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Why I sacrifice for you to change your life, your
family life, where you straight for life.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Make sure you take care of me, hold me down.
That's why Thug hurt.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Right, even if you tell Nigga to do some boys,
even you tell Nigga to do something wrong, you think
they're supposed to just go with your motion. You know
what I'm saying, when you have to change it like
you don't really put them up through that. And I
think that's why brother just came like man, fuck that.
I like like he's supposed to do that at some time.
Understand that everybody ain't built the way you think they,
and everybody ain't built on what you're built on, you know.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So you see.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
The leap calls come out.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, earlier we were talking about flowers and credibility, and
I feel like Thug is one of those people who
it was just assumed. I remember, I remember back when
I was staying in Atlante, I went to the BMF.
It was like a BMF movie premiere or whatever, the
television show premiere.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
And I just saw the aura, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
And now looking it's like you see everybody kind of
turned because they heard some of his inner thoughts.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Do you think that's gonna hurt him long term?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Nah? Nah? You know it's the silliest part of it.
It just humanizes the more.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Make it like, man, I don't know why people be
thinking artists like some supernatural type. Like they just thinking
who was able to figure out how to utilize something
like music and keep you entertained Outside of that, these
niggas be regular people, man, Like they got down some
of the two people for them to be conceived. You
know what I'm saying. You know, they had an ambilical cord.
(13:41):
You know what I'm saying when they get when they
got here, ain't no shit, couldn't do shit. Somebody had to.
Ain't no different than us. I ain't no different than.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You, thog Like shit, I sit here around other artists and.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Be like, oh, I like how bro Henley had been
there like Bro his ship, and I also haven't been
around arm like Bro now on his ship. I'm pretty
sure somebody tells me, I like how Bro Handley ship,
and somebody probably said Bro not on his ship. You
know what I'm saying, People gonna people gonna be, people
gonna be who they're gonna be.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
I forgot what the question you asked me that comments
are going that world?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right now, I'm sticking to what I was saying. What
did you ask me? The credibility? Does he lose it? Nah,
you lose it. You're gonna lose it regardless. Let me
tell you how your credibility. This is what happened. Happens
with credibility as your as you go and time goes.
Think about this for a hood nigga. Right, let's just
keep all the ways sided.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Nigga. Who got the streets involved? Who love them?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Over time, your supporters are gonna naturally diminish because you're
in the streets. Should you support us, that's what come
back and supports you to the streets. He's gonna get locked up,
he's gonna die. You know you Thias gonna go through
some wild ship because they're in the streets.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Shit, they're gonna change their life and I do.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Won't listen nigga, I'm listening to the soul. I ain't
going back to jail now. I got shot sometimes, you
know what I'm saying, Just go the other way.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You don't naturally little support you gonna have.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
People are gonna get older than like you know, it's cool.
I don't really go out no more, you know what
I'm saying. Then the new kids, they ain't on your
at they ain't the same, like they know who you is.
But man, they looking at the niggas who look like them,
who got down and got them wearing saying talking like
this for a little nigga be moving off fast thinking
it's just the nigga moving out, no pills and ship.
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That's why niggas move like that, emulating it thinking that's
the way ship. And I'm just saying, Man, at the
end of the day, like Nigga's gonna lose supporters, you're
gonna probably gain. So he human at the end of
the day, this is probably good for him. Believing it
or not, people like oh because he comes If he
comes back from this, then he he's considered champion because
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then he's able to do it again.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It's like Chris Brown when Chris Brown went through the
like you.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Think Chris Brown gonna he's over his doom. He'll never
he'll look ship him and take of drug. Then like
still not trying to let him back in, and.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
That here he is.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
It's just like yoh, fucker's paying him a thousand dollars
to take pictures with him.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
The very the very man who's just.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
On Front Street years ago, like oh my god, he
said this thatah blah lah. But now women, women, even men,
we are willing to pay this man a thousand dollars
to take a picture with him, Which means if he
goes to if he does ten concerts, right and he
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takes he does that package with one hundred people at
ten concerts, how many people is that? It's a thousand, right,
a thousand people times of thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
How much is that? It's about ten thousand? No, no sir.
If he charges each person a thousand dollars, that's one
of two three zeros.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
And he do that times a thousand, a thousand seen
people talk about that's a ticket, where yeah, that's a ticket,
and he can do extra million dollars in ten dates
taking pictures. If that ain't showing you how to champion
(17:18):
your shortcomings, these obstacles, you know, if that ain't showing
the nigga had a champion, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
So here's the opportunity for Thug too.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Rebrand. He got a rebrand. It's still gonna be Thug.
It's still gonna be a you know what I'm saying.
He can't just come out and say ooh scoodie and
I ain't talking properly now. He gotta he got to
come with what he's coming with. And when I leave him,
I'm gonna listen to the album and just go sit
down with it. Well lose it? Who shi it just drops?
Speaker 2 (17:57):
What else? Album just dropped? Who? And I was listening
someone of them to anyway, Well, last.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Question to get off the thug.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
But I did see an interview where Rollo essentially said
that Thug was the reason that Atlanta is apart. In Texas,
we look at Atlanta like together, like a lot of
people feel like they got the blueprint, Like if we
can just do what they did, like nobody can stop us.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like it may not be like that out there.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I don't know, but from what I can tell, like
it is or it has been like united. Do you
think that like Rallo had a point in what he
was said or is it just he's hurt from not
being embraced after his chill situation.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
You know, this is what I'll say, honestly. Honestly, I don't.
I don't never come all the way.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Sometimes, you know, when you're in the streets, you know
you know other truths that people don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
It's like if you running with niggas in the city
from all over every side of the time, you gonna
know a lot of bending that going.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
On in the streets. You gonna know all the rumors.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You don't know fucking who allegedly, who double cross, who
trip across and allegedly you know all the whole niggas,
You know, all the whole who really get money? Who
ain't you know what I'm saying, You start launching because
you are here amongst the world.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You are in the trenches. I think all those niggas trenches, man.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
And so when you can pick up your phone and
you can call ten different millionaires who come from ten
different sectors, in ten different labels, ten different backgrounds.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Ten different crews. You kind of in the end, you
know what's going on.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
And so I think for a Raalo to be able
to say he feel like thug, you know, mail caused
a lot of that divide, Well.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Guess what, sometimes it happened just like that. You know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
That's how he called, That's how he said, that's that's
the I'm gonna just sit back and let Ralo say
what he's say. And then I sit back and I say, well,
is it just thug or did it? Was it niggas
who was really on some shit and was willing to
do whatever they wanted to do, and just so happened
big homay fuck with is on going the way anyway?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Y'all just can't give one man all the credit. You
can't get what I'm saying. But I will say this.
I will say this one thing about Atlanta. We're cordial.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
We've always been core or so what y'all seeing and
these lately is dismantling of.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
The industry when it comes to these labels.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Ship you got more independent artists, now, you got more
artists right now, who who rocking.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I mean that that's Hendling ship.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
Because you got a lot of the bigger artists who
was able to sustain after these labels. They are independent
now whatever, got a little distribution deal, but they still
dropping redd.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
But because they so big, it still look like they
would have labeled. You know what I'm saying, you got
a lot of these cats who learn how to survive.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
And I think in Atlanta without having these different labels
like in the figures, kind of keep shit together. I
think somewhere of that kind of causes of you know
what I'm saying. It's all right now, I rot with you.
Co we went to the same school.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Don't fuck with you. I don't know. You don't really
have shit in coming the other day. We're black. We
went to the same school.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Now we saying on the same time, same side of town.
But because we went to this school together, I fucked
with you.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
You see what I'm saying. Nigga. You you always where
you from. I'm from Houston, you from he was down
from Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
We both got down in the ben Capital's a cute dogs.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
I don't even know you, nigga, but we under the
same regime. Hey, I fuck with you. So them labels,
I think a lot of time from the production companies
as a production label right to the actual labels, the
big labels.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I think sometimes niggas would take under that like we're
on the same team ship, so.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
They keep it cool. And in Atlanta, you got nigga
we went to the.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
Same school, right, Oh, we got the same homeway. Oh,
but we got the same producer. Buy we got the
same plug. Niggas kind of with like you know, it's
a coming out of there. It's it's something to stand on.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And I think in Atlanta that's what one of the
things we saw that was able to win because we
had forefathers in Atlanta from from freedom fighters to civil
rights leaders. That's what you had. That's what you had
in Atlanta. That's the that's all. Ain't no regular soil.
You're talking about the birthplace of the civil rights man.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
For me, you do even be able to see and
do this ship now right there from the salt on
from so it's other set.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
It's other things that transpired before we even conceived as
to why we can stand here to there and do
what we do.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
And they got ship to do it.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
No rap, you know, what I'm saying, you got real
freedom the motherfuckersout.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Hey, I might not fuck with you, but you're black.
Come on launch with me, you know what I'm saying.
So Atlanta always has had That's why people ever come there.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
You come to Atlanta, you got this conglomerate of institutions,
historically black colleges, the university that it's HBCUs.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
You got a bunch of them.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Then you look around and you got other private institutes around.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Then you also look up, and then you got your
state facilities.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
You know what I'm saying, your technical colleges, You got
your private colleges, and then you got your HBCUs.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
She got a lot of people that come right there
to learn. Oh man b brunh on. My sister, he
went to school with my I fucked with him. Oh
he doing some music. Well, we got some beats.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Let me hear it beat now and now you go
boom And then you got the biggest record and it
came out for the next two years. All the way
they fucked with each other because his sister and him
went to school together.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So I think that's where Atlanta comes in first place.
When when you got that shit like that. You know
what I'm saying. You had a babyface and uh you
had a baby face and La Reid to makeland face.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Right, and it came together and made magic together again.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
That's what we're talking about, the unification right right, What
made Alanda so strong?
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I think that's just what it is.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And sometimes, you know, you go through a cycle, you
go through a period. Everything will always be great, you
know what I'm saying. You know, always be the best
of buddies and chums and buddy old pals twenty four seven,
something like, bro brother, leave the fuck alone for a minute,
if the fuck back, Jacker, don't even I don't want.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
To do that.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
I'm irritated you like you don't understand. Just give me
a second. I think we have one of the moments.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Right now, speaking of putting it there, chunk mm hm.
I remember.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
You did an interview and your reference little Flip saying
basically that tea pain came up to him, tried to
introduce itself. It was a cool moment in Dallas or
something like that at a show and little Flip distance
Little Flip came out and basically said you was captain.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Hello, what you just said you don't cap right, I don't.
I mean, just keep it on, honey. Man, you know what,
let me say that it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I ran in the pain that paint like man, I'm
like what like manh yeah, do you mean when I'm like,
what do you mean? Pain denoted to man? Pain, I'm
looking at pain like nigga, this this, this ship happened.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
But then and then it done on me one day Hm.
I said, Yeah, people like these stories, but a lot
of people like some of these stories are untold.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Some people like for shit that just seemed magical and
not know.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
I want you to be to recount my steps, some
be able to recollect my moves.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Everybody don't want you to see how that happens.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
And then some people think a nigga being a chatty
patter because he exposed some shit. I'm just telling my
truth and you happen to be a part of my
truth that I told, Right, And then I think, bab
I say, niggas be drunk, niggas be on dope. I
ain't saying pain. What I'm saying, flip, I'm just saying
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that niggas be hot. Niggas don't be remembering shit and
I And then when you hear Nigga in the interview
saying man, I was man, I was out of my mind.
I don't remember having shit I was doing and saying that,
then it's like, okay, well that's the credibility. So when
I asked you about something and I start realizing, I'm like,
damn the story I told when he told me that
at the that happened that day, So my mam and
Nigga rests in peace.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
We went by what what what the what the the anatoly?
Speaker 1 (27:05):
What that ship is in Dallas anatotally the hotel anatotally Anthabella,
whatever one of them. I think Adam told listen this
ship of it. At the end of the day, we
went back to that bar in the hotel lobby and
we were sitting there.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
A brother Feltson kind of way. He had a good concert.
The first time I met Maya Ship, I was like, damn,
my fucking damn. She really looked ship.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That was the first time I had seen it was
the first time, but it was the first time I
seen Orlando or Brown doing music.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
He was there performing the show like Nigga Nigga. From
that so I got Atlanta Broan like, what up dropping?
You feel me rapping? I was like, yeah, nigga, I'm
rapping this nigga.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
You got fat from kid, you know. So when the
nigga be trying to tell me camp and bruh oh, nigga,
I would have. And then when his partners reached out
to me little boy. You know what I'm saying, DJ,
little Boy, h J Lyric Tay that email, I mean
the them that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Bro We shouldn't tell the story with you, but we were.
You definitely got hit it on it. Okay. I could
have put that ship out but for what I love
paying it wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
I never said I never put that story out there
to cause any grief or to you know what I'm saying,
challenge a man's integrity any of that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I just was too hot and ship.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
When I sit back and think about the story sometimes like,
dam I'm gratefully happy like that.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
At that time, I hadn't heard from Flip. I don't
think Flip was in the news at that time.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
You know what I'm saying. He's been in the news, lady,
but at that time he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I thought you actually did him a.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Favor, you know, like it was a good story.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Well, here's the thing, you know, I think Flip is
smart enough to know that down this story might have
made me seem this whole a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
It made me seem like I wouldn't get a nigga
left their nigga like pain that ship.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
And I don't need nobody, none of his followers or
none of his meanions coming at me.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I don't want to be in the headline shit, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
You know, so maybe like I ain't really have, but
I'm gonna tell her how I see it.
Speaker 2 (29:17):
I ain't up with one thing about me. I ain't
gonna anybody know me.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Don't ever hope it heard me tell a story once.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I fucking one time, and that time I tell it,
they'll know it. They know how to go because they
don't remember it.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
I'm gonna be detailed and it don't change up that bitch,
don't change Well, we're forward. Well we ate the y
that time we would nigga it was four for that?
Would it gonna befa that what you heard the first time?
Every time I tell that bit till I.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Die gonna sign the same way.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
I mean, add little one fliction. I may add a
little less to Pio, how the fuck I feel that day.
I'm not gonna change my story off. Anybody knows me
to tell you at Gino at Chino Dollar about me
and my storytelling time. Them niggas know my stories because
I can talk about my stories over and over again,
because every time I tell them stories, it gonna hit
the same way.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
So the city of Atlanta, I wonder if it's as
bad as they say or if the police really have
something out against rappers.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
We saw it was like as as almost as.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
As the thug case was ending, right. And I don't
know if you remember when Boosie first came down there,
but he was saying, like, you know, the reason he
left was because of how bad the laws was in
Van Rouge, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
And when you go through these.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Little small towns in the South, like the police will
harass you if you have money. I remember seeing the
police come out and essentially make it as if they
were gonna, you know, push your go on a little baby.
Do you think that the Atlanta police department like has
a theme against rappers?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
No, man, they got a thing against bullshit.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Fuck the fuck the rappers, niggas, the ship you're doing
because a nigga some money getting paper ain't broke.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
If you look a mind, he pays. Right now, you'll
see the man who who who?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
The architect who built Booth's house, that big ass mansion.
Me and it was together yesterday. I'm building mansions too.
I'm selling them though what I give it being his nights,
I'm I'm serious. So what I'm telling is a lot
of niggas that got money, and a lot of the
(31:49):
niggas around them don't got money. You understand what I'm saying.
So imagine a nigga who got money, he already feel
entitled in a lot of ways and feel privileged, feel like,
you know, nigga smooth just make through shit because of
who they are, because of my celebrity, my credibility, my
face card.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
How nigga be like, man, I ain't got to do
that show becose than me that you funk talking about.
Out Let me in then meet man. I won't spend
a little money. Come on and get in the other nigga.
W ain't you know you were coming tonight?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
But because you're a celebrity will do a celebrity spect
Oh my hey, okay, man, how many y'all? Hey, Man,
get him and get him on table. Do that's such
as such? They're important, man. When the nigga trying to
pay his bills, man, yeah, you might help him spense
it apps a lot of promoter things. But what I'm
saying is, at the end of the day, man, you
can't the niggas that gonna be around you. That's why,
that's why I want to point out the dead nigga.
(32:38):
Sometime the artists right, the niggas around them.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
They don't got the bag he got. They don't have
the resources he got, even though he's their resource. He's
there bad.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
And when when them niggas go out they create issues
that nigga, it'll happen with me. It happens the more niggas.
It don't even beat that nigga. It don't niggas. You
know what I'm saying, And all that the police don't like. Man,
we don't have issue like that in Alanna for real,
not for real, for real. Yeah, it looked like you
(33:10):
got niggas out here and it's one of niggas and
you got niggas and nigga getting shot and killed.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Then you mother fucking issues man, what you mean? What
you mean now? If you you lo here, I don't
have no issues, right, motherfucking issue. I'm chilling.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
I'm getting money. I'm doing being the motherfuckers, excuse my language,
be in the morning show personality and a man of detergurity.
I shouldn't you like fuck Dad, Listen, you're gonna look
at the south Side Day Me my partner tour, my
partner Ray Daniels.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
We went and got nine different mayors, brought them together,
The police departments brought them together, the fire department brought
them together for our day to celebrate the south Side.
You know what I'm saying, Most robbers not doing that.
They ain't doing that.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
The male gonna get them to come perform.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
The mayor gonna get them to come speak, The mayor
gonna get them to be a partner. No, nigga, I'm
gonna go get them and that's them to be a
part What the fuck I'm doing because I'm gonna write.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
My own narrative.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
All these niggas ain't it ain't that they're not smart
enough to write down narratives, but everything around them not
set up to move in the direction like that. It's
just not it's you know what I'm saying, it's just
not bro so all that the police be giving us
niggas and shit, man, these niggas rich, These niggas is
out three in the morning, four in the more and
(34:36):
five in the morning. Niggas rich, women, drugs, liquor calls,
having the time in your life, you know with that shit.
Because niggas is ungoverned. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Niggas is ungoverned.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You can't fly down the street got ah doing goddamn
seventy five in the thirty five, right, and I expect
at least the.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Fuck which right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
I'm not saying Boosie and me, but a lot of
time be the niggas around us that create that extra
flat for us. Right.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Let me ask you my last question, all right, and
I asked this for more on some advice type tip.
Come on, because you were one of the few artists
who came in the game married, you know what I'm saying,
which is commendable.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
You also got a divorce brother offset after twelve years
after twelve years. That's the first off.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
You know, more flowers.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
You know what I'm saying, brother, Offset. We see what
he's going through.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
We see.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Cardi B now pregnant. The divorce isn't finalized.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
You know, I haven't been married, but I do know
on what it's like to be in a relationship into
you know what I'm saying, to be hurting them, don't
want to crash out.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
If you got any advice that you could give to.
Speaker 2 (36:12):
Our fellow brother, what would it be.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Search deep in your heart, brother, Search deep in your heart,
because a scorn woman is one thing. A scorn man
is a whole other situation. And I think Offset has
to be careful in this because there's a lot of
technicalities that work for him as well as against him. Honestly,
(36:41):
I think that he's gonna have to do some soul searching.
He's gonna have to find it in his heart to
forgive her. She's gonna have to find in her heart
to forgive him. They're gonna have to move.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
On past this moment.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
He got to heal, and then healing, you gotta keep
people out of your bediness moving forward.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
I'm saying that trying to heal the minute somebody doesn't
agree with what you agree with now, what you believe in.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
Now, now you go back and start questioning your growth,
You start questioning your healing process and your healing journey,
because at the end of the day, no matter who
you was before she conceived this child, this is another man.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
This next man that I know he got kids with
cardon right, I think three, and I know because you.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Got three, he ain't got but one. It don't it
don't go the weight, don't move like that. It don't
matter no more. It's like even though he got three
and that ship like even like you, you don't get
no more pulled than he gets.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
And he heard a new man now, so now he
down that got more rank than you. Ain't no damn
than he do. But the kids with her, and the
kid's gonna move.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
How she move here when she moved, and she gonna
move how she moved with him when he moved. So
even though you once had like this control because you
got a kid, it ain't the same no more, because
now she got a kid with a whole nother man.
So you got another man who got some real say
so within the household that your kids dwell in as well.
(38:20):
So what I would suggest to anybody in this position
of predicament, especially offset, just fall back, lay low, continue
to build yourself, work on your career, make sure you
are able to continue to be the man, the.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Father that you want to be and that you let
the world know that you are. All the others it
ain't gonna.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
Matter because you got to find it in yourself to
find your peace, because this is only gonna get worse
and worse.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
It gets worse if you play into it with the
negative uh, if you feed it with negative fuel.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
But he gotta figure out a way to be like,
you know what, card he said I fucked up. That's
I fucked up. Like that not saying he hasn't said it,
but it's the first time I heard I fucked up.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I was like, you know what, that's the start of healing,
because now you got to realize it's not just on
the other person. It's not one you fucked up too.
And you might think she mail fucked up some time,
her fuck us was because you. It was contingent upon
your fuck ups. You know what I'm saying. That's how
I have to see life sometime like when my woman
get to going crazy, talking, going going off on me,
(39:26):
I don't walk away, bitch.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
I more with it. I have to thank myself. I
got and did so much shit.
Speaker 7 (39:31):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Just take this little out Dawn, this verbal ass well,
and that's why she's just she's pressing herself.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Nigga. He gonna have to become friends with her because
she's gonna need him again emotionally. Remember I told you
that I remember.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
Let me look at the can't remember, and he's gonna
need her again because they have children together.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Don't ever forget that. I don't be man. You go
through some of the worst.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Times in your life with the woman that you once loved,
I was in love with because you never stop loving.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You may fall out of love with him, but you
really don't fall out of love. You fall out alike
you know you the love is death. You just stop
liking them.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
The more infractions you have against me in our relationship,
the less I like you, I mean, the likability diminishes.
It feels like the love goes away, but the love
never goes anywhere because you love off real.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I mean, I love this nigga, man, I love you
some fun shit. They don't love you. Nobody just don't
like you no more. So they gotta get to a
space where they could like each other again.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
And the usually starts as being able to say we
are friends again, and that takes some time to hear
to get past it.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
But the fuck shit, fuck shit them, you know, but
they'll be right. This ain't nothing no different than we are.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Some of us here because of a nigga got our
mama pregnant while she was in another relationship. I ain't
gonna hold you. It's it's not happening. It's it's it's
somebody who like, Wow, man, I wanted to be here
and my mama you know what I'm saying, or my
daddy didn't got damn whoo whoop behind my mom.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I went and beat. That's just what it is, man.
Speaker 1 (40:59):
So the all pairs, it's just what's happening today is
topical and it's the biggest thing to talk about. Come
next week, it to be somebody else, some more dramma,
some more news, and I'll be.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Right back on somebody else's.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Podcast talking about it, or on my morning show, Young
Jack in the Streets Morning take Over sixty ten each
and every weekday morning you would catch me. We nationally
syndicated miss shatne and shot to shout it.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
And you just know how we have it.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
We haven't it all wake up with no folks at
any time of the day. Thank you and thank you
for sure, for sure this was before you get out
of here. I just gotta let you know this was
one of the realist interviews.
Speaker 3 (41:34):
I appreciate that, regardless of how messy it could have gotten.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
I feel like you just took it to a place where,
like men don't normally look you know what I'm saying
from a real emotionally intelligent perspective.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
You know what I'm saying, and I feel like we
need that. You know what I'm saying, and so you know, I.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Just think, man, we gotta realize when we're wrong. We wrong. Man,
I think men a lot of times we're taught to
not you know, ever want to seem wrong. You know,
they want to seem tired. You know, I want to
seem incapable, unable.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
We don't ever want to look like that. So a
lot of niggas stand on this mato, this bravado type
of it's it's a bratto type of stance. That we
tell me this, this, this, this, this, this, I'm that man,
this Bravado, this Nigga, I'm always right, nigga, I'm the man,
(42:29):
and we.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Suck up, fuck up.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
And the worst thing is for you to stand on
some ship like that and you look at one day
and you realize how wrong you was, and he be
looking back like man, I like him in here, and
you go from that. Sometimes nigga have to you have
the skin. You need to know the guy they're going
to put some guy dawn paths on so it don't
happen again.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
You know what I'm saying. Some niggas had to get
burnt to learn, well, Roberts Well, so nigga gets slapped
to learn to keep their mouth clothed. Uh huh. But
once you know, you know, I don't believe that one
man for real?
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Let me get a real tune TV.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Your money, a pub shot here ship the one room
we got nomn ship ship fell out before we get
out there, real ton TV. Yes, sir ready, Hey, look man,
your favorite cousin checking in.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
I don't care where you at the cook out of
the Freedom. I'm gonna be right there and I'm gonna
be showing a little you're on JLC.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I love you, man, And what it is again? Tone?
What for money in the room?
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Who?
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Real tone? Who real? Shouts out the real tone? Man?
You know so I might have to make sure I
come through turned down the H time and show a
little man whenever I'm in the city. Man, I'll rock
out with you again, my boy, A real tone. This
some real money in the room.
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