Karen DEMANDS I Print Employee Handbook... GETS TAUGHT A LESSON! - Reddit Stories - Reddit Stories Podcast - Mr. Redder

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey there, mister Redder here, welcome back to another episode
of Reddit podcast Stories. Our first story we'll be reading today,
print out the Internet, yes, ma'am. After that, my new
boyfriend wants me to put his name on the house.
And after that, am I the jerk for leaving my
business to my protege instead of my kids? Now, for
every thumbs up, this video gets one, Karen has to

(00:21):
go outside and pull weeds. But there's mosquitoes out there,
Reddit boy, so please smash that like button and subscribe
and turn on notifications for news stories from Reddit every
single day. Print out the Internet, yes, ma'am. This is
about a decade ago, but still well within the realm
of the Internet. I was a technical writer for the

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government and had slowly been transferring our old employee handbook
Think Government Bureaucracy from the nineteen forties into a modern
and actually useful document. I think one page with our
policies and links to useful websites like Office of Personnel Management,
forms for workmen's comp et cetera. My boss wanted the
whole thing printed out on her desk. The next morning,

(01:04):
this was Monday of the Thanksgiving weekend. I printed out
the two hundred or so pages and just had the
links to the various websites in bold. This took about
an hour and I left it on her desk before
going home that night. She calls me in her office
on Tuesday afternoon and proceeds to yell at me about
how stupid I am. Do I think people can just
go to a website when it's on paper, No, I

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need to print everything out. I calmly tell her that
these sites are pretty dense and deep and it would
be about ten thousand pages. She says she does not care.
It needs to be on her desk first thing Monday morning.
Mind you, this is now Tuesday, and we usually had
some of Wednesday off. I was not really planning to
work Thursday, Thanksgiving or Friday, as I had applied for

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leave and I was looking forward to a nice, relaxing,
long weekend. I don't have family, but I did have plans.
But okay, I asked for and got the request to
have everything pertaining to the employee handbook online in a
printed format. I also had real work and real deadlines.
A quick bit of context. She was my boss, She

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did my performance appraisals, and she could make my life
miserable and possibly fire me. However, my clients were teams
that put together engineering plans, biological assessments, scientific journal articles,
reports to Congress, et cetera. That had real world deadlines
on some of these. If you missed the publication date,
your agency paid one hundred thousand dollars a day in

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delay fees, or you would upset a congress person, which
is never a good idea. And I was really getting
sick and tired of my boss's requests that took me
away from my actual work. So I was printing and
printing all of the rest of Tuesday afternoon, and then
Wednesday I had to go to the site print, click
on the next link, print, et cetera. On Wednesday, we

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got a congressional a letter from a congress critter that
was actually important. Had we not gotten that, I might
not have done what I did. I got over time
approved pronto to take care of this request. So I
did work Thanksgiving. As I was doing that, I kept
on printing and printing. I used up every sheet of
paper in our fourteen story building. I kept on researching

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the response for the congressional printing, going to the next
floor to carefully get that packet of paper to tuck
under the appropriate page, et cetera. I had paper in
about twenty different conference rooms. I could have done the
congressional in about eight hours, but it was not due
until Monday, and all of this printing took me a
good twenty four hours of work. So I put in

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for thirty two hours Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday got
it done. This is now two stacks of paper, each
about six feet high. I was way under in my
estimate of ten thousand pages, as it was more like
thirty thousand. Remember, I had at least five printers going
at once for four days, et cetera. I put this
in my boss's office, which was already none too clean

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in pristine. I got written up with the disciplinary hearing
and everything. The charge was compliance. I kept my job
only because I did have her request in an email.
My new boyfriend wants me to put his name on
the house. I twenty seven female, have been with my boyfriend,
who's twenty nine, for six months. Our relationship so far

(04:15):
has been awesome. Hey's sweet and we get along so well.
I've been saying since we met that in two years
I'm going to buy a house that I'll be working
myself as hard as I can in that time to
make it happen. A little context for you guys. I'm
a single mom of two kids who are eleven and eight.
I've been through what feels like a lifetime of struggle,
and though I'll spare you all those details, I'm sure

(04:37):
you can imagine. One of those struggles was being homeless
for about twelve months. When I was growing up, my
dad raised me in our family home. I didn't have much,
but having a stable place to live was something that
I never took for granted growing up, something that I've
been dying to give my babies. For the past four
to five years, I've been doing well for myself, making

(04:58):
money as a tattoo artist, my child to dream job,
and I couldn't be more happy now to the issue
at hand. The other evening, my boyfriend brought up me
buying a house and said that he would feel weird
moving into a house with me if it was only mine,
that he wants to be included in the whole process,
including owning the home with me. He isn't currently working.

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He just got fired from his job, and when he
was working our income gap was quite large that being said,
he won't be able to contribute fifty percent of a
down payment. I explained to him that this house isn't
really for me, that this house is for my kids
in their future, that my first home is going to
be bought with the intent to have them living in
it as young adults, and I'll be purchasing something else

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for myself when that time comes. It has nothing to
do with him, and I can't risk the possibility that
the house will be gone if he and I were
to split up. I told him if he moved in
that I wouldn't expect him to pay on my mortgage,
but that he would help out by paying other bills.
He didn't seem to like that idea and insisted he
would want to pay fifty to fifty. So am I
the jerk for not compromising and buying a house to

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keep only in my name? Even if marriage was something
I decided I wanted down the road. I don't want
to take any chances on my kids having what I've
always wanted to be able to give them. No, you're
not the jerk. He's asking for a free ride in
the future. If he contributes, you can always reevaluate, but
he's not been with you long enough to demand half
your house and half your future. If it's too terrible

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for him, then he can just skip on down the road. Ope. Honestly,
even if he were able to contribute fifty to fifty,
I still don't want him included in owning this home.
I told him I'm open to buying property and including
him on any investments after this one, but that didn't
seem to mean anything to him. I just want this
one thing no one could ever take from me. I've

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seen too much divorce and messy breakups to not keep
that in the back of my mind. I couldn't keep
from getting emotional during the conversation because it means so
much to me. After this, I'm definitely thinking about the
relationship differently. I don't know, it's just I can't really
relate to how he's feeling. I would never expect to
be given something just because I'm with the person, not

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having put any work into making it happen. My mind
just doesn't work that way. I worked in family law
during law school, so I get what you're saying regarding
divorce and breakups. You're fine with wanting your own place.
My mind also works the same as you. You need
to take care of you and your kids first. You've
only been with him for six months, right, it shouldn't

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be an issue for him, and congrats on getting your
dream job. Not the jerk. A jobless, financially insecure guy
is upset he won't get to co own a house
with you. Red flag if you're still with this jerk
in two years when you buy this house, you can
reevaluate the situation, but he'd better be able to pay
half of the down payment and the ongoing mortgage. If

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you ever decide to marry him, make sure you have
a solid pre nap. Not the jerk. Unless you're married.
You never put a boyfriend or girlfriend's name on a
home you're buying. You're totally right about that, and I'm
glad you know how important this is. With that being said,
I've seen several stories like this before where the roles
were flipped and the responses are always the opposite. People

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tell the girlfriend to leave the boyfriend if he won't
put her name on the house he's buying, and they
tell her she deserves so much better. I know I'll
get down voted to heck, for this, but I can't
help but feel like it's a double standard often seen
here on Reddit. A story like this wouldn't be complete
without at least one idiot like you trying to point
out my double standard. Let me spell this out for you.

(08:32):
Since you're about as intelligent as a five year old
when it comes to money, America, jobs, property taxes, et cetera,
y'all basically have it on easy mode. Why do you
think the pay gap is still so huge even in
twenty twenty three. If we can get something simple from
a relationship like being included on the house, it's only
fair because of how hard it is for us in

(08:53):
today's society. With men having life on easy mode, the
least y'all could do is include us in purchases like homes.
Don't like it. Stay a sad, lonely single jerk for
the rest of your life, yauza, don't you sound pleasant?
Am I the jerk for leading my business to my
protegee instead of my kids? I fifty eight male, have

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two kids, John who's thirty two and Susan who's twenty nine,
and I started a business back in my late twenties
after they were born. I've been growing it for the
better part of three decades. However, my wife and I
agreed that we have more than enough for me to retire,
and so I am Some backstory Back when John was
in high school, I gave him a job at my business,

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and soon after he started, he asked if I could
give his friend Sam, who's thirty two now seventeen, when
he started a job as well. John was not interested
in the work and quit after four months, and I
will wholeheartedly admit that this was very painful at the time,
but Sam loved the job. He continued to work throughout college,
where he went into the same field as me, and

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I gave him a promotion when he completed his studies.
Sam is very much my protege and I see him
as my second son. John studied finance and after working
at some other places, asked me if I could give
him a job. I did, and he's extremely good at
what he does. I love the fact that I get
to work with both of them. I took my wife, John, Susan,

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and Sam out to dinner last week to tell them
my plan for retirement. Sam will take my place and
own sixty percent, while John and Susan would each get
twenty percent. I've never seen John so furious. He asked
how I could choose Sam over him, my own flesh
and blood. He also said he's the one who studied
running businesses and that he should be the one in charge.

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I told him that he has only worked for me
for a few years and already quit once, whereas Sam
has been working for me for fifteen years, knows all
of the clients, the products, and the production team and
has their respect. He then asked if he had my respect,
and I told him, of course, he's the best at
what he does, but that doesn't mean he's the best
fit for being the boss. My wife and Susan de

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escalating the situation, but John left in a huff and
hasn't been talking to anyone but Susan sinds I know
John's hurt, but Sam is the better choice since he's
been working directly under me for years and knows the
ins and outs better than anyone but me. I've tried
talking to John and apologizing, but he won't let me
am I the jerk at it. Some people keep asking

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why gave Susan the same amount and what a relationship
to the business is She's worked off and on as
a contractor, and especially since she has kids of her own,
I wanted to give her some financial stability. It's the
same with John, as he's never expressed any interest in
running the place and came back to work for me
because he got laid off and had a hard time
finding another job. I wanted to ensure some financial stability

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for him while making sure Sam was the one in charge.
Edit to first a point of clarity, nothing has actually
been signed yet and I'm still in charge. Susan came
to the house and we just had a long discussion.
She's been talking with John and she told me he
feels like this is me telling John that Sam is
my real son. I asked her if she felt the
same way. She doesn't, but she sees how it looks

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to John. I then asked her what she thinks I
should do, and she told me I should lower her
share and give it to John. She said she would
rather give him the money than watch him disappear from
the family. I also asked if she knew whether he
actually wanted and or expected to run the business, and
as far as she knew, he didn't and was surprised
at how poorly he reacted. Before she left, I asked

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her to try and get him to have a conversation
about this, and she told me, sure, but don't count
on it being soon. Edit three. I'm sick of the
comments saying I don't care about my kids. My wife
doesn't see it that way, my daughter doesn't see it
that way. Yes, I wasn't always present in their lives,
and yes my business did take priority at times, but
I did my absolute best to be there as much

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as I possibly could. I made time for graduations, sports events,
and other big milestones and events as best I could,
and I was there for most of them. I may
not have been present at all times, but I did
my best to try to be. Also, Sam is not
a complete stranger, not the jerk, but you lack emotional intelligence.

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It would be obvious to most people that this should
be a conversation to have over a long period of
time individually, with each of the three concerned parties announcing
the completed decision was bound to set off some unpredictable feelings.
Best solution, as I see it, would have been to
sell the business at a below market value to the
three of them, and exactly the proportions you suggested, but

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only after individually explaining your plan to each of them
and getting their feedback, starting with Susan because she's the
one most removed from the business but most likely to
be able to predict her brother's reaction, and tweaking the
plan based on their input. But now you've created a
rift between them and it will be incredibly difficult for
them to operate as partners. You'll have to talk to
them again and find a way to show John that

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he's not second fiddle to your second son. I actually
disagree with this, but I'm also team not the jerk.
I don't think Op owed it to anyone to tweak
his plan, even family. Maybe that's really cold and heartless
of me to say, but writing that Op lacks emotional
intelligence simply because this is not a choice that should
be made based on emotions isn't the best read of

(14:14):
the situation. In my opinion, Op made his choice with
his business, and it's the right one for his business,
his life's work, His kids are cared for financially, they
have stability, and Op's business has the best possible candidate
taking over. That's fine, That's a really good solution. In fact,
given that it stated that his son never had a
vested interest in running the business, why would Op give

(14:36):
his life's work to someone that's uninterested in sustaining it.
Op's son shouldn't have assumed he would be the owner.
That's really insane. Entitlement Running a business requires more than
a blood relation. His feelings are hurt and he didn't
get what he wanted, But so what. He's an adult.
This family has a lot of time for this to
smooth over. I think Op made the best decision for

(14:57):
everyone and isn't obligated to cater to the potential or
material reactions of his kids when it comes to his decision,
and he shouldn't need to sell his business below market value.
Not catering to his kids emotions doesn't mean he lacks
emotional intelligence, and it doesn't mean that he should have
done things differently. You're the jerk because John did sacrifice
more than Sam, and way more than Susan. Being the

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kid of an entrepreneur is hard. I know, I am one.
The amount of sacrifices families make and the stress the
family takes on when business is slow is immeasurable. And
you gave Sam a significant controlling share of the business
to Boot. You just made a dangerous business decision. If
John is a good businessman, he can still do over
Sam and will likely go no contact with you. You're

(15:43):
the jerk. Firstly, when John was working for you, originally
he was in high school. At that age, many kids
go against what their parents do or want. It's totally normal,
so I'm not surprised he left, but he came back.
He studied something that would add value to the business,
and he came back and work for you. Secondly, you're
giving Susan, who did absolutely nothing for the business, equals

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share to John who's been working for you and contributing
to the business. How is that fair. Lastly, Sam may
have worked for you for all these years and may
know the ins and outs of the business. However, at
no point did you ever have a conversation with John
and Susan about leaving the business to Sam. So it
would be a natural conclusion that you would be leaving
this business that you've built up to your own kids.

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Is there any way you can leave the ownership of
the business to John and Susan equally, but with a
clause that Sam is to run it or be in
charge of it for however long he wants. Something like that.
If you had done this to me, I wouldn't be heard.
I'd be quitting the business and opening up a rival
business and putting yours in the ground. Nor would I
be speaking to you again, not because you didn't leave

(16:47):
the business to me, but because you announced this without
even a discussion with me, blindsiding me. As far as
you and John are concerned, I'm pretty certain a mere
apology isn't going to cut it. My thoughts exactly, you're
the jerk. John is working for the company and study
to do so. It goes against the idea that you're
dividing it on merit. So obviously John is upset because

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you're saying Sam is worth way more than he is,
while John is equal to someone who does not work
at the company. That's gotta hurt. I thought the people
on Reddit couldn't stand the idea of nepotism. The minions
on Reddit can be pretty unpredictable. Best to not try
to rationalize their thinking. You also probably don't want to
be asking them for financial business or parental advice. That's

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not the kind of stuff they learn in mummy's basement.
I parked in a pregnant person spot, and all heck
broke loose. I'm not sure how popular these are in
other places, but in the southern US some places have
special parking spots for veterans and pregnant individuals, and sometimes
they're the same spot. I'm currently about thirty four weeks
pregnant and have had kind of a rough pregnancy, so

(17:51):
I avoid going out often. Yesterday my husband couldn't go
to the grocery store and I had to do it.
The grocery store I went to had one of the
aforementioned parking spots free, and I parked there. As I
was getting out, a man pulled up behind me and
started yelling at me, telling me it was illegal to
park there. It's for veterans. I told him it was
for veterans and pregnant women, and I was a pregnant woman.

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He said he earned the right to park there by
fighting for our country. I apologized that he felt that way,
and I was grateful for his service. But if he
needs the spot for disability reasons, there are plenty of
open spots. Some details. He was a young dude, and
of course I don't know if he was disabled or not.
He was in his car and I couldn't see him
as well as not all disabilities are visible. He called

(18:35):
me a jerk and drove away. And when I told
my husband about the interaction, he told me, while it
did say for pregnant women and veterans, he deserved it
more and I should have backed off. My dad and
brother agree, and now I feel like a jerk, But
my sister told me I was in the right and
not to worry. Am I the jerk? Very small update.
I told my husband it was very uncool of him

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to treat me like that, especially with him knowing how
how anxious I was to go to the store and
him knowing for a fact that hurts to walk and
that the spot was for both of us. We had
a bit of back and forth, but he apologized. My
dad also pretty much immediately apologized as well, saying he
shouldn't have sided with the man who called his baby
girl a jerk. But I think my mom and sister

(19:18):
really laid into him. My brother is a jerk, so
I don't expect an apology from him. Edit. I realize
I worded my post weird. People have asked why I
even engaged with him. We were in a parking lot
that had one row of spots on either side. He
pulled up behind my car, but where I needed to walk,
so I would have had to walk past him, which
I didn't feel safe doing, so I stayed near my

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car in case I needed to get back. In edit,
a couple people have asked my age. I'm nineteen, Yes
I'm married, Yes I'm pregnant. It's a long and involved story.
I didn't want to be married or a mom at nineteen,
but life happens and we make the best of it.
I'm just answering some questions. Not the jerk. It was
meant for pregnant women and veterans. You were there first,

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so you can use it. Bad luck for this guy,
not the jerk. Parking spots for pregnant people are about need,
not who deserves it more. You needed it, you were
right to use it. Your husband sounds like he doesn't
have a good idea about how challenging that third trimester is.
You should suggest he read up on it, because he's
sounding like the jerk here the veteran too. Obviously, Am

(20:25):
I the jerk for telling my brother and sister in
law that my nephews don't owe her the ability to
adopt them. My two nephews are twenty and nineteen years old.
Sister in law married my brother when the boys were
seven and eight. They lost their mom at five and six.
She had been sick for a couple of years, and
my brother was back dating after six months. Sister in
law was his third date, and they married after a

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few months of dating. Sister in law has always loved
the boys. I remember her telling me before the weddings
she hoped one day they might call her mom. Sometimes
she was also hoping she would be close to the
boy's maternal family just has me and our other sister
who lives overseas, and she has no family, so the
maternal family were the only real extended family. The boys

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do not call her mom. They never have. Their maternal
family are also not close to sister in law or
my brother for that matter, but they never really were close.
Sister in law and my brother tried to have a
baby for many years, and ultimately she had to come
to terms with the reality that she was not going
to have a biological kid. During those years of trying
to have one, she didn't withdraw from the boys or anything,

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but she did tell me at one point she wanted
to bring up to the boys that they could call
her mom. I told her to let them come up
with it on their own and to focus on just
having a positive relationship. Sister in law went through early
menopause a couple of years ago, which permanently ended any
hope she would get pregnant. Some day last year, she
and my brother set the boys down and expressed that

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she would love to adopt them if they were willing.
The boys were not. I heard about this via the boys,
who were not happy it was brought up. They felt
it came out of no where and felt they had
never given an indication they would want that. A month
or two ago, the topic was brought up again, and
then sister in law asked the boys if they loved
her in any real, meaningful way and whether there was

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something of a compromise that could happen where she be
acknowledged as a mother to them. They said no to
the adoption, no to calling her mom, and they ignored
the topic of whether they loved her or not. She
pleaded with them to reconsider and said she would be
an amazing second mom, that she would be there for
them like always and would keep pouring her love into
their lives. When they didn't agree, it turned into an

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argument and the boys left. Sister in law cried her
heart out. After this, I saw her and my brother
for the first time since the request came up a
second time the other day. Sister in law was talking
about how much it hurt her. She brought up the
maternal family again, saying she could not understand why they
wouldn't want to add to the family and couldn't welcome
her into their family and hearts. Then she was saying

(22:55):
how she really thought the boys would feel like she
had earned the adoption. My brother called the kids and
said that they could ask in a few years again
and hopefully they will have grown up. I said the
boys did not owe her an adoption and gently suggested
they figure out a way to come to terms with
it not happening. My brother was furious, and Sister in
law looked as though I had betrayed her. Am I

(23:16):
the jerk. Those boys aren't her kids. They're fully grown,
legally recognized adults. They've made it crystal clear what they
do and don't want. Regarding this subject, your sister in
law has had it rough, but honestly sounds more like
she needs therapy to come to terms with what she
can't have. All she's doing is permanently damaging any relationship

(23:36):
she could have had with your nephews and the maternal
side of the family. They lost their daughter and had
to watch as someone tried their hardest to take over
their daughter's role, trying to effectively erase their daughter in
the process. They're under no obligation to welcome her into
that role. Not the jerk. You told her the truth,
the same truth that your nephews have been trying to
get through to her for years. Your sister in law

(23:58):
desperately needs therapy. Projecting her grief about her own infertility
onto her step kids at this level is really not
okay at all. And I say this as an infertile
woman myself. I'll be shocked if they want a relationship
with her at all after this. You're one hundred percent correct,
and your brother and sister in law have lost their
minds trying to force this issue. Not the jerk. She's

(24:19):
not their mother. They don't owe her anything. No jerk's here.
I don't see what crime sister in law did other
than naively hoping and then being sad when life wasn't
a fairy tale. She wasn't graceful in dealing with her
pain of realizing the two kids she helped raise didn't
have the same depth of feeling for her that she
had for them. I feel like maybe folks could have

(24:40):
a little sympathy for her in that regard. The boys
are not to blame, and it doesn't sound like you
were cruel. You mentioned that dad dated six months and
married two years after mom's passing, but that doesn't sound
unreasonable If he was ready, why not. His sons don't
owe him acceptance of his new spouse, and he doesn't
owe them years as a widower. You don't mention any
better parenting other than this argument with the adult kids.

(25:02):
So it seems like a sad and uncomfortable situation, but
no real jerks, Maybe Dad was ready to move on
after six months, but his kids weren't. The problem with
sister in law is her pushing the issue. She honestly
should have never even brought up wanting them to call
her mom. She should have waited to develop a place
in their hearts organically and understood that she could never

(25:24):
be their mom. Wanting to be the mom of kids
when their mother is past is incredibly selfish on her part. Then,
after seeing that this is not the relationship they have
with her trying to push the issue of adoption, it
sounds like the brother and his wife are the problem.
They're not only delusional but selfish because they aren't even
thinking about how the kids felt. Also, her love seems

(25:45):
a bit transactional, which is always a red flag in
inner personal relationships. Basically, I did this, so I expect this.
She's not concerned over building a relationship where people actually
love and care for each other genuinely. You're the jerk,
and so are your nephews. My heart goes out to
your sister in law. Your brother sounds like a good guy,
and his kids are spoiled brats. I feel bad she

(26:08):
wasted her life raising these little creeps who don't even
love her. How ungrateful they sound. And all of you
morons here on Reddit defending them, y'all are the ones
who need therapy, just like those boys do. I hope
that woman can one day adopt kids who will love her,
since those boys are incapable of showing her the love
she does deserve. My neighbor has been stealing my WiFi

(26:29):
for months gets exactly what she deserves. I twenty three female,
live next door to Jenny. She lives with her husband
and their kid. I work almost all day outside and
in my spare time I play games on PS four
during the week. I pay for good Internet because I
like not having any lag while playing or any Internet slowness.

(26:50):
My PS four is in my room and the internet
router is in the living room, so it's Wi Fi
and not cable, and because of that, I constantly check
the internet speed and it's always x amount. A few
months ago, I invited Ginny's family over for dinner and
gave them my WiFi password. Apparently theirs was week at
my house and I went through politeness. Last month, I
started to notice very bad internet speed, one tenth of

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what it was before, and a few technical visits to resolve,
until the technician asked if I had passed the password
to someone in the building and I put the pieces together.
I then changed the password because the internet was crap
and I didn't want to share it with three more people.
Last week, the neighbor knocked on my door and asked
for my WiFi password because her internet wasn't working, and

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I commented saying that I changed it because there were
people on it from other apartments that were using it.
She got the message and said she was having a
hard time and couldn't pay for her own internet, so
in desperation she used mine and if I couldn't, give
her the new password, promising that they would only use
it at night when they got home from work. I denied,
saying that night was my leisure time too, and that

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I didn't want to have bad internet and I don't
want to pay more for the internet to be good
for four people, and even more so for her to
be using it for a month without my permission. She
stomped off, and oh goodness, my new image in the
building as being the petty jerk who doesn't want to
share Wi Fi with people who are struggling financially? Am
I the jerk? Not the jerk? Why should you have

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to pay the bills for her, especially when she was
stealing it and making you suffer through trying to figure
out what was wrong. And it's definitely not a one
time thing. They did it constantly, and I'm one hundred
percent sure it's not just for sending emails or something
work related, must be streaming something or other stuff, and
it's more than just one or two people using it
to make op sides so slow one hundred percent. I agree.

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I live with my boyfriend and we had another roommate.
Boyfriend would game, I would send occasional work emails and
did other remote work, and roommate would do nothing but
very loudly stream movies when she came home. Internet would
always be fine when it was just me occasionally checking
emails and my boyfriend gaming, But the minute the roommate
came home, the internet would practically stop working. My emails

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wouldn't even send it all, and games became completely unplayable.
When the roommate moved out, we haven't had issues with
the internet speed. Sins am I the jerk for kicking
my brother and his family out after his son stole
my engagement ring. The reason I twenty six mail no
is because I literally caught him in my room going
through my things and it's on camera. My nephew is

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nine and he has a habit of stealing things. They've
gotten in trouble a few times at stores because he
would leave with something in his pocket, but of course,
because he's a kid, they usually just say he forgot
he had it. Even at school. My brother has told
me they've had to come talk to the principal on
a couple of occasions. Doesn't seem like they've done anything
to stop it. They had to come stay here with

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me because my brother lost his job and they weren't
gonna make it with all their bills, including rent. He's
doing uber right now while he searches for a job,
and they can move out. I didn't want to because
of my nephew specifically, but family as family. I I guess.
A month ago I finally bought an engagement ring for
my girlfriend that I was planning on proposing too soon,
but now I don't know. It's a four thousand dollars

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ring that I spent over a year saving up for.
It's been hidden in my room under one of the drawers.
One time when I found him snooping in my room,
I told my brother to control his kid, then got
one of those cheap spy cams in my room just
in case. Then last week I noticed it was out
of its box. After checking the camera, it showed he
was in there again. When I wasn't home. My brother

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and his wife have yelled at him. He says he
left it by the TV in the guest room, but
it's not there. They looked through all their stuff and
his too. I know for a fact he's lying about
not having it, because that's the same thing he said
about one of my watches he took then ended up
finding it. By this second day, my brother tells me
that they can't find it at all, and I told

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him either they find the ring or he repays me
the four thousand dollars I spent on it. If not,
they can't stay here anymore. My brother got really upset.
He told me, I know how their situation is right now,
and yeah, it's a tough spot, but I couldn't ignore
the fact that his kid he can't parent, took something
extremely important to me that cost a lot of time

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and money. They were given a week to leave my
house if they don't find the ring. They're happiness stay
at a cheap motel. But my brother won't stop begging
to come back because what they're pain right now each
night is coming directly out of their savings. He won't
stop calling me heartless about letting something like this come
between helping them out through a difficult time, and my
nephew keep saying he's sorry. It's just hard right now

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to want them around. Don't even know what to do
about the ring, And every time I think about it,
it just makes me so mad that it's hard to
care about their situation. Does that make me a jerk?
Not the jerk they sold the ring? I think so
too at this point, why won't his nephew say where
it went? The thing with kleptomaniacs is they often don't

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know what to do with the things they steal. He
may have washed it down the sink, flushed it down
the toilet, buried it in the garden, and etc. Just
to hide it. It's not so much about having things,
it's about taking them. It's highly unfortunate that he took
something so important and his parents definitely need to get
him help and should have done so already, which could
have prevented this. Okay, I want to make a couple

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of suggestions. The first is to use a metal detector
in and around your house and yard. The second is,
if his parents really haven't sold it, think about where
you might hide something if you were a kid somewhere
that seems like a permanent and safe hiding space, especially
if he knew he was moving and wouldn't be able
to take it on him. As a kid, I always
felt like the backyard was a permanent space. Look under

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brakes that can be moved, or in any trees. The
third thing I was thinking, make a report with the police.
If it's possible to scare him into talking, it will.
If you and he need other resources, they may be
able to point you in the right direction. His parents
are responsible for him. You can't just let a year's
worth of savings go, even if they can't pay it
back right away. They might say, but we're family, let

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it go. But equally, family wouldn't want you to lose
a year's worth of your savings and to have had
such a monumental milestone for you ruined. Support our channel
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