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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey there, mister Redder here, welcome back to another episode
of Reddit podcast Stories. Our first story we'll be reading today,
Karen tries to steal my bird from me at PetSmart.
After that, am I the jerk for ruining my dad's
chances of winning my mom back? And after that, am
I the jerk for sabotaging my little brothers and my
birthday party. Now, for every thumbs up, this video gits one.

(00:22):
Karen does not get to steal anyone's bird. New ducks
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Every single day, Karen tries to steal my bird from
me at PetSmart. Be careful taking your bird out in public.
Someone may try to steal it. I decided today would

(00:45):
be the perfect day to pop the harness on Isidora,
my sulfur crested cockatoo, and take her out to PetSmart.
I needed a pack of aspen for my baby chicks. Anyway,
got her in the carrier, carry her in the car,
and on the road we went. She did remark prokably
well and didn't even get carsick. But you know what,
tiny detail I forgot. People talk to you when you

(01:06):
bring your bird to the store, whether you want them
to or not. I'm very good at dealing with people.
Years of retail of work, restaurant work, admin, et cetera.
Have trained me in the art of small talk. The
pet smart workers were fantastic, actually ask the basic general questions.
No one asked the pet her. Everyone kept a respectful
distance and didn't overwhelm her or me. Other customers, though,

(01:30):
oh no. There was one woman in particular. She told
me she had a scarlet McCaw, a hands may call,
and a golf and cockatoo at home. She stopped me
to chat, asked about my bird, and I gave the
condensed version of her story. Isidora is almost sixteen. She
came from an older couple who wanted a younger home
for her, et cetera. She's doing great, She's the love

(01:52):
of my life, et cetera. She asked, So, she's almost
sixteen years old. How long have you had her? I
said for four and a half months. Now. Have you
ever had a cockatoo before? No, she's my first large bird,
and I couldn't have been luckier. This woman, who was
only in her fifties, probably so she's only a little

(02:13):
older than I am. I'm thirty nine female. She tells
me you shouldn't have her. You don't have the experience
with large birds, and you're too young to have one.
You don't even look like you've got your own life together,
and she reached Freezidora she was going to take my bird.
I would love to pretend like I had some witty comeback.

(02:34):
I thought of all the good responses in the last
couple of hours since we've been back home and I've
had a minute to process. In reality, I came back
with the unbearably witty retort of what Because I'm brilliant
under pressure, I stepped back and put my card between
us and said, Nope, We're not doing this, and I
turned around and walked out. Hours later, I've gone back

(02:56):
in my head and told her off ten ways to Sunday.
The moment, I was so flabbergasted someone tried to take
my bird away from me, like she literally tried to
grab my bird off of my hand. I don't think
we're going to have another field trip. I think we'll
stick to the yard for now. This was a stupid experience,
and I would have enjoyed it more if I had
had some brain power to yell at her and embarrass

(03:18):
her for even trying to take my bird from me.
She deserved to be horrifically embarrassed. I'm so mad about
the whole thing. I'm still shaking up about it that
now I'm going to dwell on it for the next lifetime.
Am I the jerk for ruining my dad's chances of
winning my mom back? I'm twenty five female and my
parents are getting divorced after twenty four years of marriage.

(03:40):
My mother was basically cheating on my father for months
before he found out. I put cheating in quotation marks
because my dad was a horrible husband, so I was
actually happy she found someone else. Once my mom said
she wanted to separate, my dad completely changed. He said
he didn't want her to leave, bagged her to stay,
saying he will change. He actually got on medication for

(04:02):
his depression, started being more affectionate, and asked for couples
counseling that he said my mom agreed to do. One day,
I go to my parents' house and my dad says
he wants my help winning my mom back. We're in
the backyard and Mom is in the house. I told
him no because I want what's best for her and
he's not it. He said that he has severe depression,

(04:23):
and saying that he's bad without acknowledging how depression can
affect a person isn't right. He said he was disappointed
because if the genders were reversed, I would admonish him
for cheating and breaking the vow of marriage. Now this
is where I might be the jerk. My dad is
doing everything he can to win my mom back, so
I said that while I won't help him, I wouldn't
interfere in his plans and would stop talking about him

(04:46):
with her. Me and my mom talk a lot about
how crappy of a husband my dad is. At one
point in the conversation, he says, in a calm tone,
I know you're not going to like this, but I
must say it anyway. When one parent gives you gifts
and takes you on trips and buys you things, of
course you're going to side with them even if they're wrong,
because you don't want to lose that. This made me

(05:07):
so angry. I have a genuine friendship with my mom,
whereas even though my dad was a fantastic father, stay
at home dad gave us everything we ever wanted or needed.
I don't necessarily enjoy being around him. I hang out
with him sometimes out of obligation, but it's very forced,
and I know he can tell and he's told me
this hurts him in the past. I basically went off saying,

(05:30):
forget you and how dare you? And that he had
no right to question my character. And the reason I
like my mom more is because he's no fun, unmedicated,
He's rude and rigid, and it has absolutely nothing to
do with money. I'm screaming, but up until this point
our conversation was calm, and we were almost whispering, so
my mom wouldn't hear. My dad keeps trying to shush me,

(05:52):
but I don't let up. I go to my mom
and tell her what he just said, and he keeps
looking at me, saying, why are you doing this to me?
He can't believe you're doing this to me. We were
just having a calm conversation. I say I'm leaving, and
my mom gets in the car with me. Later, my
dad says that after my blow up, my mom no
longer wants to go to couple's therapy. Am I the

(06:13):
jerk for blowing up and making it harder for my
dad to win my mom back? Edit? I'm editing this
to add that the reason I'm so involved is because
both my parents talk about the other to me. My
dad started first, and my mom only got involved when
I asked her if she was mistreating him in any
way he was claiming. But they're both wrong for this
other important info. My dad told me my whole life

(06:35):
that he has bipolar disorder, and that's why he was
so messed up. I've sent him books and podcasts and
articles and lectures for years about this disorder. I made
my entire family start therapy two years ago, and I
said that my only request for my dad is that
he get medicated because he knows he has bipolar disorder.
He laughed and said, I was waiting for you to

(06:56):
say that I'm not even bipolar. The therapist then got
a little kurt with me and said I shouldn't armchair
diagnosed just because I was a psych major. My dad
just nodded along. This is just one of his serious manipulations.
But he does it to me often, and that's why
our relationship is fractured, not the jerk. It was wildly
inappropriate for your dad to request your help getting back

(07:18):
together with your mom. Their marriage is their business, not yours.
Not the jerk. Your dad was trying to manipulate you
and your mom, and you did the right thing calling
him out. You didn't ruin his chances to do anything.
He's been doing that for years and just wants a
scapegoat to blame his actions on. Not the jerk. Witness
tampering comes to mind. You were good. You offered not

(07:41):
to work against him, then he exhibited the same type
of horrible behavior as previously. Your being furious at him
was a direct result of his actions and verbal attack.
You were justified in feeling insulted and reacting to this
when all he had to do was just keep quiet
after your offer and accept the win. He simply couldn't resist,
again showing you who he was. Your father trying to

(08:03):
pin your mother's decision to not try therapy on you
does seem to be part of his normal behavior pattern.
Not the jerk. Your dad sounds like a total jerk.
I'm also glad your mother was cheating on him, and
I don't blame her one bit. This really reminds me
of my own sorry excuse for a father. He also
claimed he had mental health issues, and of course wanted

(08:25):
to play the victim when my mother left him. Like, dude,
you're a forty something year old white dude living in
America and you seriously expect me to feel sorry for
you because of your mental health. He thought paying my
college loans would magically cause me to want a relationship
with him, but once they were paid, I still went
no contact, and I suggest you do the same. You're

(08:46):
the jerk. I'm so disappointed in the way people are
talking about the father in this story. Just because he's
a man doesn't mean that he's immune to mental health issues.
The fact that so many of you are excusing the
mother's cheating and even cheering it on, while simultaneously mocking
and ridiculing the father, it just shows the hypocrisy that
our modern society has been programmed to accept. I know

(09:07):
I'll get down voted to heck for pointing out this
double standard, but I'm just disgusted. To be honest, you
all know darn good and well that if the roles
were flipped, you'd be singing a completely different tune. Am
I the jerk for sabotaging my little brothers and my
birthday party? Me and my little brother have very similar birthdays.
My brother's twelfth birthday is today, while my seventeenth birthday

(09:31):
is two days from now. Because of this, starting from
when I was about to turn five after my brother
was born, I've always remembered that my family has officially
stopped celebrating on my actual birthday, and they rather prefer
that we celebrate both of our birthdays on my little
brother's birthday, and whatever compromise that I have, my parents
had always dismissed, Like when I asked if we could

(09:53):
celebrate on the day that's between our birthdays, my parents
would respond that it would be rude to my little
brother to celebrate his birthday late, but celebrating mine earlier isn't.
Or when I asked if we can just have two
separate birthdays, my parents have stated that that was a
stupid idea because that wasn't cost friendly and it was
too time consuming to have two separate birthday celebrations, especially

(10:14):
since the birthdays were so close to each other. It's
gotten so bad to the point that no one in
our extended family even remembers when my own birthday is
because everyone believes that me and my brother have the
exact same birthday, which makes me hate how close me
and my brother's birthdays are. So for this birthday, I
ended up doing some changes for this year with the

(10:34):
money I saved up. I ended up buying a decorated
cake that said happy Birthday, Brother's name only, and I
switched it with and got read of the cake that
had both me and my brother's name on it. I
ended up hiding all of the pink decorations and leaving
behind only the blue ones. And I also made sure
to scribble off my name from anything I can get
my hands on, like the banners, invitations, letters, etc. So

(10:58):
that only my brother's name and in was on it.
And on the day of the party, I rejected any
gifts towards me and stated that since it's my brother's
birthday today, we should be celebrating his day, since I
hate celebrating my birthday on a day that isn't my
actual birthday. This caused a mixed reaction to a lot
of family members, but it ended with many respecting my

(11:19):
wishes and focusing on the birthday boy my brother was
the only one that was completely happy about it, probably
because this is the first time that he was able
to celebrate a birthday that was his own, and he
enjoyed getting all the attention for himself. My parents, however,
were livid at me for being petty and childish enough
for wasting my time in money, and especially their money,
with all the vandalism that I did sabotaging this party.

(11:42):
In addition to that, they were also mad that I
made them look bad because a lot of our family
are giving my parents flack for making it look like
they're prioritizing my brother over me, as well as complaining
that my insistence that they focus on my brother on
his birthday to be unsettling and worrying. I mean, I
think I may I've gone overboard just a bit, but
I don't think I did anything that wrong. Am I

(12:04):
the jerk here? Not the jerk? Well done, and the
best thing is that your brother was thankful. Next year
you will be eighteen, and after that you can celebrate
any way you want, not the jerk. And this almost
belongs to Malicia's compliance. You didn't explicitly steal the spotlight
from your brother. You made it about him. Brilliant, and

(12:25):
you didn't make it look like they're prioritizing your brother.
They are prioritizing your brother. You just let the rest
of the family see it, not the jerk. Good job.
Your family now knows your brother is the golden child,
or at least favored. There's no reason why they couldn't
do his party one weekend and yours the next. My
kids are two weeks apart. We never combine parties. It's

(12:47):
not fair for them. You're the jerk. You had a
little tantrum, not because you aren't being celebrated annually, but
because you're having to share it with one other person,
and it sounds like a decent affair too. Shoot talking banners.
Most people don't get banners on their birthday. Some people
are lucky to get a Duncan Hinde's yellow cake on
their birthday. Also, cut the crab. Stop acting like you

(13:10):
care about your brother getting his solo birthday. You care
about you getting your solo birthday. Yes, you are the jerk.
In short, what you did was deceptive, manipulative, and mean spirited.
You did something to look innocent and kind towards your
younger sibling, but villainize your parents, that's not cool. As
an adult, the logic about not celebrating a birthday late

(13:32):
versus early kind of makes sense to me. I can't
fault your parents for that logic. Still, I also think
having it on a day that falls in the middle
of your birthdays isn't a terrible idea either. The day itself,
in my opinion, doesn't matter, just as long as the
birthday is recognized and celebrated. I've celebrated my friend's birthdays
weeks after because that's when we were finally able to

(13:53):
link up and afford to do it. Their birthdays fall
during end of term or exam period. If I were
your parents and could afford it, I'd let you guys
celebrate different birthdays. I don't know your financials, though, but
I can see how it could be too expensive to
have two separate events, even two separate cakes and foods
so close together, especially with the prices people are charging
these days. They'd even have to buy more decorations. There

(14:16):
are nuances and I don't know, and off the bat,
I'm sorry, but you come off as a brat as
the oldest you'd think at this point, by seventeen years old,
you'd be more understanding about the nuances of money requirements
in comparison to a twelve year old. They aren't neglecting
you since they put both of their kids' names on
the cake and had pink stuff and decorations for you.

(14:36):
After complaining about how costly having this event is, you
wasted their money and tossed the cake that they got
that was wasteful. The guests brought gifts for you. It's
both of your events. Am I the jerk for telling
my daughter that I'll be missing her graduation to attend
my sons? I forty three, female, have two kids. My
daughter May is twenty one and my son, Luke is seventeen.

(15:00):
May's father and I split shortly after she was born,
and I met my now husband when she was about
a year old. Due to work and life circumstances, May
primarily stayed with her father, but visited us on the
weekends when she was younger. She's an incredibly bright girl.
She has an AA, she's about to graduate with her BA,
and she's been accepted into a master's program that starts

(15:21):
in the fall. I'm so proud of her. I can't
say that enough. My son, Luke is graduating from high
school this year, and I found out that his graduation
is a few days after my daughter's. We don't live
very close by anymore, so it would be back and
forth flights, which just doesn't feel practical. Since May is
getting another degree. I've told her that I'll attend her

(15:41):
next graduation, but this time I'm just going to attend
her brother's, since graduating high school is such a big step.
May seemed a little upset at first, but she told
me it was fine and that she understood. My ex
called me later and told me that I wasn't considering
May's feelings in the slightest. Her high school graduation in
twenty twenty was canceled due to lockdown. Then her ceremony

(16:02):
for her AA was virtual for the same reason. So
now that she's finally having one, my not going has
really hurt her. I told my ex that I'd go
to her next one, and that it's not fair that
I just not show up for her brother. He says
that it's more than possible for me to come see
her graduate and then fly back in time to see
my son do the same. My thing is that, yes,

(16:22):
it's possible, but it isn't practical. May told me herself
that she is a little upset about it, which is
why she vented to her dad, but she apologized for
making it an issue. I don't know how to feel
about this now. I might being the jerk here Eta.
My daughter found this post, which wasn't my intention, but
I did reach out to her to apologize for not

(16:42):
being considerate of how this was going to make her feel.
I'm going to fly out earlier to spend more time
with her and to attend her graduation ceremony. You're the jerk.
It isn't fair to pick between your son and daughter.
If it's possible to go to both, then you should,
even if it doesn't seem practical. My other question is
why is it even relevant of which parents she grew

(17:04):
up with. Primarily both are your kids. It shouldn't matter
if she grew up with her dad agreed it'll be
a whirlwind trip, but if it's possible, op should make
the effort to attend both. I might feel differently if
she went to the daughter's high school graduation, but that
was canceled, so this graduation would be the culmination of
her high school diploma AA and BA The fact that

(17:28):
Op is blaming the practicality is bs. She could go,
but literally just doesn't feel like making the effort. I'm
sure May is just telling her mother, oh, it's okay,
but is extremely hurt. I doubt this is the first
time Op didn't want to put in the effort for
her daughter. Sounds like her poor daughter is just used
to being second to golden child. Brother. You're the jerk. Majorly,

(17:50):
You're the jerk. I'll go to your next one is
so crappy, and it's completely your decision to not fly
in earlier or to just suck it up and put
in effort. You seem to really be a weekend parent
to the heart. One gift for Birthday and Christmas, no problem.
I love birthdays and have always loved celebrating them, both

(18:11):
for myself and for others. I love to give gifts
as much as I love to receive them. But I
was born in December, so it's always been an uphill
battle getting people to celebrate mine or separated from the
religious holidays happening that month. For me, it's not about
the gift but the principal. I've had several friendships where
I was expected to help plan and pay for expensive gifts, dinners, trips,

(18:33):
et cetera for a spring or summer birthday, only to
be told what an inconvenience it was to have to
do something for a December birthday. I've been called greedy, childish,
and have even had people ask me why I can't
just combine my birthday with someone else to make it easier.
It makes the friendship feel one sided and makes me
feel like an inconvenience. I don't get so upset about

(18:55):
it anymore, but I do have some firm birthday rules. One,
you don't have to give me anything, but if you do,
just pick one Birthday or Christmas keep them separate. Two.
Whatever the agreement is, let's make it mutual. If no
birthday gifts the agreement, it should hold for all birthdays involved,
not just the inconvenient ones in December. Well, a best

(19:16):
friend and I recently got into an argument about it
because she felt I was being selfish for wanting two
gifts in the same month. When I said we don't
have to do birthdays, she insisted that she should get
a separate gift for her birthday and March because it's
a different time of the year. I pointed out that
this was unfair, but she wouldn't hear it. I jokingly
said in the end that if she gave me one

(19:37):
gift for the month, I would purposely wait until March
and give her an empty box for her birthday. She said, sure,
go for it, and as promised, she gave me one
gift for both days and told me to stop being
so childish. So March comes around and she has a
little get together and the time comes to open gifts.
When she unwrapped mine and saw that it was empty,

(19:58):
I said Merry Christmas, and she got really upset. She
said I was being petty and childish and that I
was going out of my way to ruin her birthday.
The other guests seemed to really upset too, and some
of our mutual friends want me to apologize. I'm refusing
to do so, and we haven't spoken. Since your friend's
logic doesn't make sense. Either everyone gets to celebrate Christmas

(20:21):
and birthday separately, or no one does. My son has
a birthday December thirtieth, awful for planning parties, so we
usually hold the family birthday mid January. He gets separate
gifts always. My wife is from December twenty third, so
she insists on separate gifts, get new friends who aren't
selfish jerks. Am I the jerk for taking just my

(20:43):
nephew to fun places and not my step niece and
nephew as well. My brother has an eight year old son, Caden.
Caden's mom passed when he was a baby. My brother
married Simone two years ago almost and they have blended families.
Simone has Bella who's ten, and Archie, who's nine. Bella
and Archie's dad passed when they were four and five.

(21:04):
Cayden was really excited about Bella and Archie and having siblings.
My brother and Simone told him that he'd have a
brother and a sister and they'd be buddies for life,
and it really made him eager to live with Bella
and Archie. But his experience with them has not been
a positive one. They don't want to include him in anything.
They seem to go out of their way to not
spend time with them. Examples that I've witnessed and have

(21:26):
been told about by Caden. Bella and Archie will be
outside playing with kids in the neighborhood, and when Cayden
tries to join in and play with everyone. Bella and
Archie will go inside, or they will go and do
their own thing away from the other kids and Cayden.
Cayden said, sometimes Bella and Archie have said no to
him joining, and Simone will tell her kids they cannot
stop him from playing with everyone else. I witnessed this

(21:49):
myself at Christmas. Kids in my parents' neighborhood were playing
outside with their new toys and stuff. Cayden joined a
little after, and Bella and Archie left the larger group
playing together and went off on their own. When their
mom noticed, she went outside to say they should join
the group again, and they said no because they didn't
want to play with Caden. Sometimes my brother or Simone

(22:11):
will break up the kids into different groups for some
fun family time, and Caden is always told they don't
want to do that stuff with him. When my brother
takes them, Bella or Archie will try to wander off.
When Simone takes them, they always try to put her
in the middle of stuff, so it's not like they're
playing or having fun with Caden. Several months ago, when
I realized how much it bothered Cayden and how sad

(22:32):
it made him, feel. We started doing a water park
or trampoline park near us for the occasional fun day out.
He'd asked to invite his step siblings, and given they
are my step niece and nephew, that made sense. The
kids have never said yes, they've been offered, and they
will say they don't want to come. So I still
take Cayden, but now Simone is bothered by this. Last

(22:54):
time we went, Cayden had such a good time and
he said it was the most fun he'd ever had
because he got to stay late on the trampoline for
helping another kid who is there. I guess Simone was
bothered by him enjoying that so much when her other
kids weren't there. I told Simone that Bella and Archie
have always been invited, but they never come. She told
me I shouldn't be taking Kayden either. Then my brother

(23:15):
said maybe it's better to just lay off for now
and not to bring Kayden along. Simone wasn't just happy there, though,
and told me to consider my actions because I was
being deliberately hurtful to her kids. Am I the jerk?
Tell your brother alone that his kid is lonely? Tell
him what Cayden has been telling you that Bella and
Archie very obviously bail on every group Cayden joins, and

(23:38):
he's crushed by it. Tell him that you will keep
inviting Bella and Archie out for Caden's adventure days and
if that's hurtful to them, then you're at a complete
loss as to how keep doing those days for your nephew. OPI,
you're his hero, and try to avoid being trapped into
conversations with Simone for the foreseeable future if you possibly can.
She's working out some weird, resentful step mom energy there.

(24:01):
Keep yourself out of the mix. Maybe your brother will
see it plainer for himself if you're not there to blame,
not the jerk, as you already know, not the jerk.
It sounds like Cayden is being bullied by his stepsiblings.
Just because they're not overly aggressive does not make this
behavior less hostile. It sounds like your brother and his
wife are not seeing this or doing much to help.

(24:23):
Please don't let Cayden feel like he's alone. If Simone
has a problem, she should talk to her kids and
maybe they could all use some family therapy. Am I
the jerk for telling my stepdad to take care of
his actual kids. I moved an hour away and started
a job over the summer and have become close with
a few coworkers. One of them and I have become

(24:43):
actual friends outside of the office, and she's integrated me
into her friend circle after getting to know her backstory.
Mom was abandoned while pregnant and had to raise three kids.
We got close and I consider our good friend now.
She's so sweet and nice. Last weekend, I was over
at her mom house getting ready to go out, and
was looking at some pictures on her wall and I

(25:03):
saw one of her younger brother and a man and
took a double take. He looks exactly like my stepfather,
but younger. I tried to find another he was in,
but that was it. She saw me staring at it
and said that's her father, and I laughed and said
he looks like my stepdad. She asked me his name
and I said it, and the color of her face left.

(25:24):
She started calling for her mom to come to the room,
and the next ten minutes were me awkwardly answering questions.
Turns out, my stepdad is her father. I met him
when I was six, So my friend would have been eight,
and that's the time he left. He never mentioned having
any kids, so it was shocking. It was horrible to
hear them cry, and we never ended up going out.

(25:45):
I told them that he has a successful business and
maybe they could get money for back child support, but
they said they didn't want anything from him. I went
home this week and things have just been awkward. My
stepdad is so nice and literally my only father figure,
so to know he abandoned his biological kids as crazy.
My stepdad kept asking me why I'm acting weird and

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I didn't say anything at first. My mom pulled me
aside and I told her everything. To my surprise, she
didn't even react. She said how he lives his life
is his business and I shouldn't judge him. This is
coming from a former single mother. I remember her crying
over my dad leaving us, and I was disgusted by
what she said, so I told her loudly to not

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speak to me and she's a hypocrite and stormed out
of the house. My stepdad followed me to my car,
saying that I need to come back and apologize to
my mom right now, and I told him to go
and apologize to the kids he abandoned and listed their names.
He looked like he was going to faint and went
back inside the house. My mom has been sending me
texts that I need to apologize to my stepdad for

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being a jerk to him and making him cry for days,
and that he raised me and took care of me,
and that I shouldn't forget that, and that if he
didn't do what he did, I would be the one
without a dad, and to be grateful. We haven't replied back.
Am I the jerk? You were grateful to have him
as a father before you knew this, and you can
still be grateful for what he's done for you. At

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the same time, you can feel disgusted by what he
did to them. Not the jerk. Not the jerk. Your
mom should be apologizing to you for reacting to the
news of your dad's misbehavior by attacking you. Instead. You've
discovered that your stepfather is not who you thought he was.
He and your mom told you a massive lie of
omission for your entire life. He and your mom walked

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away from his family. He was legally and morally responsible
for the fact that he raised you and took care
of you. Has very little bearing on this new information
you've discovered. It's okay to be appalled and take time
to process this shock, and for goodness sake, you don't
need to be the one apologizing, not the jerk. Am
I the jerk for keeping in contact with my girlfriend's

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estranged half sister. I've been dating my girlfriend for almost
five years now. We just found out we're having a
baby recently, so we've been happy about everything. About two
years in our relationship, I accidentally met her half sister,
I'll call her Anne, who was born from an affair.
It was at a baseball game. This girl, who looked
exactly like my girlfriend, came up to us and introduced

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herself to me and tried telling my girlfriend about her
upcoming graduation and that she wanted us to go. My
girlfriend declined everything and told Anne to not speak to her.
On our way home, she told me about her father's
affair with this woman when she was only five, that
she had a half sister that she never liked. I
asked her if she ever tried to get to know Anne.

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She said no. I never had contact with Anne within
the next two years, until I saw her singing in
some subway station on my way to work. She noticed
me and asked if I wanted to get coffee, which
I agreed. I asked her why she was singing in
the subway station. She told me she was getting by
and that she was living in a hotel room nearby.
I had to leave early due to my work and

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gave her my number to keep in contact with me.
So we did keep in contact with each other. I
got her a job at a friend's hair salon, and
I helped her get an apartment. I told her about
the pregnancy and we're becoming first time parents. She was
happy for the both of us. Anne must have seen
her sister in public, because she congratulated her on the pregnancy.
My girlfriend hated that she knew and said she didn't

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want me to be near her again. I was given
an ultimatum to stop all contact with Anne or leave
my pregnant girlfriend. I only felt bad for Anne because
I was homeless at a young age and I saw
a lot of me and her. I gave her the
support that I wished I was given. You're the jerk.
Your girlfriend made it super clear that this was a
boundary for her. You've gotten yourself involved to a degree

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that goes way beyond keeping in contact, which would have
already been crossing a line. The boundaries are for the girlfriend.
She can't extend her boundary to him just because she's uncomfortable. Frankly,
if I was the boyfriend, I would be more concerned
on why my girlfriend has no sympathy for her half sister,
considering she didn't choose to be an a fair child.

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She doesn't have to have a relationship with her half sister,
but stopping the op from having one is just hostile.
Considering that she still chooses to visit her father, she's
made her views on affairs pretty clear. On top of
all of this, she's assigning ultimatums. His girlfriend does not
seem responsible or even empathizing enough to have a kid.

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She absolutely can extend those boundaries to him. What if
this wasn't her sister but an ex who had mistreated her.
If this was his sister, she would be wrong to
demand no contact. But it's not. It's her person, and
she has every right to try to set that boundary.
If this was an ex or someone who had hurt her,
that's an entirely different scenario. Though this girl hasn't done

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any harm to his girlfriend. She's just existing with the
consequence of their dad's poor decisions. How does his being
kind to her have any bearing on his girlfriend. It
sounds like she's too much of an indirect communicator to
just tell Anna that she doesn't want to talk to
her or have a relationship with her, and instead is
trying to control her boyfriend's relationships. She doesn't have to

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feel bad for her just because they're accidentally related. No
one owes someone their love consideration or thoughts op getting
the person a job and an apartment was way over
the line. Keeping in touch is one thing, but he's
doing too much and it's a little weird to start
a relationship with his pregnant girlfriend's half sister when he
was told not to, and then to continue maintaining it.

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He's getting nothing but grief, so unless they're hooking up,
he needs to knock it off or lose his girlfriend.
You're the jerk. The thing I never understand about these
types of situations where busy bodied people go around helping
the estranged family of people they supposedly love, is the
question of loyalty. You know your girlfriend doesn't want anything
to do with Anne. Why did you feel the need

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to have a relationship with Anne. I don't believe for
a moment that you go to coffee, help with employment,
and exchange phone numbers with every or homeless person you
see in the subway. Why this particular girl, especially when
you knew your girlfriend wouldn't want that? Have you no loyalty?
Your girlfriend doesn't want yet another avenue open to Anne
to get into her life. Why did you feel the

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need to pave the highway. Yes, you are the jerk
for keeping in contact with a person who meant nothing
to you, but you still build a relationship with knowing
your girlfriend wouldn't want it. Such a huge breach of
trust against your partner. You're the jerk. Sure, we can
all say OP has the right to make his own
decisions blah blah blah. But had the OP been honest

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with the girlfriend, I would have agreed. However, you went
behind her back. It's almost as if you cheated on
her with the product of a cheater. I'm sure that's
the way she sees it, even though it's not half
sister's fault. She was born Op. You knew it felt wrong,
so you omitted telling her, which is as good as
a lie. Now she's pregnant and feels that the one
person she could trust is no longer there. I don't

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