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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey there, mister Redder here, welcome back to another episode
of Reddit podcast Stories. Our first story we'll be reading today.
I prevented my nephew from getting bit by a rattlesnake.
Now his mother is furious with me. After that entire
class skip's optional early start to lab. We were given
an hour for lunch and we're going to take all
of our time. And after that? Am I the jerk
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for showing up to a party with my pregnant wife
that my infertile X was at. Now, for every thumbs up,
this video gets one, Karen gets bit by a rattlesnake. Oh,
come on, Reddit boy, that's just not cool, So please
smash that like button and subscribe and turn on notification
for news stories from Reddit every single day. I prevented
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my nephew from getting bit by a rattlesnake. Now his
mother is furious with me. My eleven year old son
goes to a skate park after school with his friends,
which includes his cousin, my nephew Jack, who's also eleven.
I went to pick up the boys when I saw
a crowd of the kids by the fence. I went
over and asked what was so interesting? And they pointed
to a snake, not just any snake, but a rattle snake.
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They had never seen one before, maybe outside of a zoo,
and I assumed they were trying to get it to
strike because they didn't think they'd get bid. I told
them all to get away from it, and they did,
except for Jack, who actually got it closer with his phone.
I think he wanted to get a close up video
of the snake striking. I yelled at him to get away,
and he told me to hold on. I took him
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by his arm and pulled him away. He gave me
this angry stare. I told him, what the heck that
snake could hurt you. He gave me this silent treatment
until his mom picked him up. Then twenty minutes later
she called me up in a rage about how I
grabbed him and did this and did that and hurt him,
et cetera. And I'm not his dad. I asked her
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if her sweet little angel told her about the rattlesnake
that he was provoking. She said, what snake? I hung up.
She called up again and said that I still owed
her and Jack. In apology for handling him, I told
her to buzz off and check his phone and see
if I did any of that stuff as his camera
was recording everything. An hour later, my brother called me
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up and said what Jack did was stupid and he
was happy I was there, but I still owed his
wife an apology for telling her to buzz off. I said,
I'm not apologizing for nothing, at least until she apologizes
to me for coming at me sideways twice. To be honest,
I don't even care because I don't like her anyways.
He apologized, and I said, not acceptable. She needs to apologize.
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Your sister in law needs to apologize and to learn
that you don't just listen to kids then go nuclear.
You ask questions. If she had asked questions like a
normal human, then she would not have gone nuclear. She
has issues, and she's teaching her son that he's a
precious being that no one can discipline. I mean, seriously,
it was a rattlesnake and you are yelled at for
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handling him. Yeah, she owes you a big apology and
also needs to take some anger management and parenting class.
She's teaching her kid that he can lie and she
will go full nuclear rather than teaching her kid about
the boy who cried wolf. Entire class skips optional early
start to lab. We were given an hour for lunch
and we're going to take all of our time. I'm
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a second year veterinary student. This is the time when
we start our live surgery labs. We work in teams
of three students, a surgeon, an assistant and an esthetist,
and are obviously overseen by certified specialists anesthesiologists and surgeons,
and many experienced VET nurses as well. We have lectures
from seven am to eleven AM, Lunch is eleven to
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twelve our lab begins at twelve pm sharp. However, we
were told we have the option to come to lab
early and begin. It became very clear after the first
week this is an expectation, not an option, that we
will skip lunch or eat during lecture and come straight
to the OAR. During one lab at eleven fifty am,
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the anesthesiologist yelled at a student for a few minutes
in the pharmacy area while getting drugs for the lab,
for not having his patient ready and waiting in the
induction room ten minutes before lab even begins, and this
group was set to induce during the last wave normally
one to one and a half hours into lab. There's
no reason to be an hour early when your group
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is final wave. Being on time is sufficient, and they
were actually still early. Our class has been getting berated
by this anesthesiologist, as well as some of the surgeons
in this lab. Just as one example, a student surgeon
asked for help. A surgical resident came over from another
patient to help, and she was now not sterile. The
resident told the student she was holding her four steps wrong,
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proceeded to grab them from our hands, and then made
the student leave her patient on the table to re scrub, reak,
gown and reglove and open a new instrument pack, all
because she wanted to ask a question. This is a
common technique they will use on us when we've done
something incorrect, to get us to remember it next time. Well,
the entire class is fed up with this. Our class
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called a meeting about it, and we all decided we're
all going to start showing up to lab at eleven
fifty till eleven fifty five am, only five to ten
minutes early. Not for petty reasons either, but it's a
matter of patient safety as well. Several students have fainted
from skipping lunch to go and operate instead. We were
given eleven to twelve for lunch and we're going to
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take all of our time, so that's what we did.
At eleven forty am, one of the surgeons came to
our lecture hall, where the majority of us stay and
eat lunch, and asked us why we're not in the
lab yet. A student at the front of the room said, simply,
lab begins at twelve noon. The surgeon gave us a
long spell about professionalism and how we're all being inappropriate
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and putting our patients at risk, and she left. Ther
is a two minute walk from the lecture hall. So
we finished lunch and all showed up around eleven fifty five.
The clinicians were very mad about it and reported our
class to the dean, and so the dean called a
school wide meeting of it. Some of our classmates spoke
eloquently about our reasons and our actual patient safety concern,
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turning it right back on the clinicians, citing patient safety
and the school claims to care immensely about student mental
health and cutting our break slash lunch has no way
to support us beyond that. The schedule says we begin
at twelve, and we're still showing up a few minutes
early to ensure we can begin right at twelve. Ultimately,
the dean just released a statement saying they cannot force
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us to begin lab an hour early, and we will
start at twelve when the Dean's office scheduled lab to begin.
It's a small win for us. Certainly we will face backlash,
but we have a break to eat. At least our
class is known for not putting up with bs from
the school. We got a dinosaur of a professor fired
for the inappropriate comments she made to a student during
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the middle of a lecture. After she had terrorized students
at this school for decades. She forgot our lectures were
automatically recorded on zoom during lockdown. We're hated by the clinicians,
but at least the classes behind us are having a
slightly better time. Edit about the fainting thing, Yes, from
skipping a single meal. Most healthy adults shouldn't faint. Add
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on top of that, the mental stress of operating for
the first few times, the heat from the surgical lights
being covered head to toe in a non breathable sterile
barrier which traps in your body heat. A mask, putting
that heat back on your face, having to stand relatively
still in one place for hours, no access to water
for hours, you can't move your arms out of the
sterile field, so limited and no stretching, plus the sight
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of blood being a common trigger, and you have plenty
of light headed and fainting students. Skipping food is added
insult to injury when you last eight at six am
and it's now four pm, and you haven't had water
since noon, and you're overheating and stressed. Not to mention,
VET school is a conception of type A high achieving
perfectionists with chronic stress from constant high stakes exams. Fail
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and you're out of the program, some of which are
right before you go off into operating or maybe occurring
the next day, rampant anxiety and depression, sleep deprivation from
our schedule, and or insomnia. I know several classmates with
disordered eating or full blown eds. It's not merely an
isolated incident of skimping lunch. One time, am I the
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jerk for showing up to a party with my pregnant
wife that my infertile ex was at. I thirty five
male used to be married to my high school sweetheart
Kelly thirty five female. We got married after undergrad and
overall I would say that we were really happy. The
biggest conflict that I would say we had was the
topic of having kids, not the idea of actually having them,
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but when I've always wanted to be a dad and
wanted to have my kids while I was still young
enough to run around with them while they were kids,
and to have a good relationship with them once they
were older. Kelly brought up a lot of good points
about needing to get married, living fully on our own,
and being out of debt. First, for about five years,
I worked a job I had no passion for, solely
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because of the large paycheck, and I was able to
nearly wipe out our debt completely. We didn't have a
lot to begin with in the first place. Then Kelly
said she wanted a house, so we got one. Then
a few months in she talked about wanting to go
to grad school. Even though we often thought about having
kids in the end, I always supported her choices because
I didn't want her to resent me. I would often
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ask her if Kelly had ever changed her mind about
wanting kids, but she assured me that she still did
just not now. I asked when would she be and
it always felt like she kept moving the goalpost whenever
she had listed her requirements, and that I was painted
as a jerk for pressuring her to have kids. Unfortunately,
after weeks of not feeling well, Kelly was diagnosed with
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an illness. It was rough, but I stood by her
and she pulled through, but the cost was her fertility.
I felt like a jerk again because a part of
me resented Kelly for not agreeing to have kids sooner,
and that resentment grew when Kelly refused to look into
using a surrogate, insisting that either we were both the
biological parents or neither of us we were. In the end,
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I couldn't take it and just divorced her. A lot
of people called me selfish, they called me other names,
et cetera, but I just wasn't sure if this was
something that I would be able to truly let go of.
I let Kelly keep the house and I moved out
of town. Eventually, I met and fell in love with Angela,
who's thirty two, and shortly after moving in together, she
got pregnant, so we got married. She's entering her third
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trimester with our baby, and I'm so excited. A friend
back in college moved back to the States and wanted
to have a small party to see everyone. He invited
Kelly and me, so I checked in with him privately
and asked if it would be okay to bring my wife,
and he said that it was cool, so I did.
This was the first time I saw Kelly in person
for years, and she looked well enough. I was polite
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but kept my distance and thought everything was good until
the next day when I got a barrage of texts
and dms blasting me for having the audacity to parade
my heavily pregnant, new younger wife in front of my
infertile wife. I had no malicious intentions, and it has
been a few years plus. I asked beforehand, just a
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double check, so am I the jerk ETA talked about
this with someone in the comments. Kelly said it would
be too upsetting at the idea of me having a
baby with another woman, regardless of how the child was conceived.
It was either adopt or nothing at all. I honestly
felt like there was no way we could progress in
the relationship without one of us resenting the other. So
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I filed if she truly didn't want kids. She put
on a great performance before her illness. She would constantly
gush over other people's babies, insisted buying a house in
a good school district for our future kids, and even
talked in extensive detail about wanting to be a stay
at home mom for up to six years. I think
Kelly just assumed that we had always have time, and
then life threw a curveball. If Kelly had stated that
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she would have been open to having kids sooner under
the condition that I be the primary caretaker, I would
have done it. I would have even taken a lesser
paying job so I could have the free time to
do it. I never wanted to be put in a
position where she felt like she would have to give
up her career entirely. ETA two stepped away for a
little bit, but I just wanted to be clear about something.
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I did not leave Kelly while she was still sick.
It was a year after she was healthy again and
we had been in therapy for months. Not the jerk
you divorced. It doesn't sound like you did her over
in it, and you each have your own lives now.
She should have known having kids was important to you
since that was obviously a wedge issue in your relationship
with her, so she shouldn't have been shocked that you
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went on to achieve that goal. Also, thirty two is
essentially the same age as thirty five. It's not like
you showed up with a pregnant twenty something. Not the jerk.
It's sad that Kelly is infertile, but you didn't bring
your wife to rub her infertility in her face. You
reached out to your friend and you got the okay,
just block anyone sending you those kinds of texts. Also,
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from what you wrote, it sounds like Kelly never wanted
kids and she kept leading you on with the hope
that you'd eventually dropped the issue. Divorcing her was the
right move too. If not, the resentment would have kept growing.
Am I the jerk for pain for just my meal?
So I wasn't stuck with everyone else's bill. I was
lucky enough to get a great job after I graduated.
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I make pretty good money and my job is challenging
but fun. Some of my friends didn't bother with college,
and some who did go chose less lucrative fields. I'm
not rich. Or anything. I'm not buying a portion anytime soon.
I just have a good salary and very few bills
since I still live at home. I got a very
nice hiring bonus when I was recruited, and I took
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my friends out for what I made clear was a
one time celebration. Every once in a while, I get
together with my friends and go to a restaurant. We
usually end up splitting the bill. I don't drink a lot,
so I might have a beer with my meal, but
that's it. I know they don't all have disposable income
like I do, so I usually also cover the tip.
They tend to go overboard, like one girl orders five
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or six drinks over the course of the meal, and
she will order appetizers for the table. I never eat
the appetizers because they're almost always deep fried, and I
tend to avoid that stuff. It's also common for one
of us to leave and just cash app or leave
money for the bill. Last Saturday, we went out to
a nice Mexican restaurant. The food was excellent and my
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margarita was delicious. That girl brought her girlfriend and a
couple of the guys brought their girlfriends. I mentioned that
I had to have an early night. After we finished eating,
I hung around until everyone started ordering more drinks and
desserts and all that. And I'm not joking here. One
girl even ordered a to go meal for her roommate.
I excused myself and went to the bathroom. Afterwards, I
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paid my bill at the front of the house and bailed.
I started getting texts. About forty five minutes later, the
bill came and they wanted to split it. I told
them I had already paid my share and I had
to leave. My bill was fifty five dollars including the tip.
The three guys and the girl were going to be
splitting the remaining six hundred and forty dollars. They wanted
to split their guests bill as well. The other guy,
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who didn't invite someone was saying it wasn't fair for
him to split the bill when I didn't. I said
that I had paid for my food bill and I
wasn't going to give more. They ended up each paying
their own bill, and one guy ended up paying for his,
his dates and her roommate's food. He's especially salty about
the situation. The other single guy also ended up just
paying for his own stuff. And he's also in their
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bad books. I feel bad for leaving without saying goodbye,
But if I stuck around, I'd be subsidizing food for strangers.
Not the jerk, But I feel like you should have
gone back to the table and said I paid for
my portion. Good to see you, guys, I have an
early morning. Other than that, you're not expected to pay
for anyone else's bills, so they have no cause to
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be upset. Am I the jerk for dressing casually to
a work dinner. My girlfriend Lauren has a great relationship
with her boss, Chelsea, actually really friendly outside of work.
They go to dinner or lunch together and discuss both
work stuff and real talk. Even though Laura always looks
very clean and put together, she also isn't a very
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professional dresser, in my opinion, not the way an office
lady usually looks. She rarely wears makeup, keeps her hair
in a short cut and does nothing to style it,
and wears only pants to work, never a dress or
a skirt, and only button downs and blazers. I love her,
and I love that the work environment she's in lets
her feel comfortable enough to dress like this. She likes makeup,
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she just likes either to be bear faced or to
go for dramatic looks that aren't appropriate for the office.
Rarely she'll put on some lipstick and basic contouring. Those
two facts together made me think when she invited me
to join her at a work dinner on Tuesday, that
it wasn't a formal occasion. I asked Lauren what was
she wearing, and she said nice slacks, a button down,
and a blazer, telling me that I would be fine
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to do the same. Plus, on FaceTime, she had metallic
eyeshadow and white eyeliner on. So I dressed in dark
blue jeans and a plaid flannel button down. When I
showed up, I quickly realized not only was there more
than just Lauren and Chelsea, but I was the only
person wearing jeans. Not that it was easy to see that,
especially once we were all sat down. One of Lauren's
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coworkers was wearing a polo and khakis, though which I
felt was equal to my outfit. No one looked twice
at my clothes, and we all had a good time.
It was a non issue. Lauren and I had planned
on her following me home so she could stay the
night with me, but when we got to our cars,
she said she didn't want to anymore because she was
mad I didn't dress appropriately to dinner. I said, I
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dressed just as appropriately as she did, because there was
nothing business appropriate about wearing white eyeliner. She just laughed
in my face at that and told me to buss off.
I tried texting and calling her, but she just told
me to leave her alone and refused to discuss the
fight instead of just shutting me down at it. No,
not all women need to wear skirts to be professional,
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but you match the formality of your boss in the work,
and Lauren is the only woman in the office that
never wears a dress or a skirt contrast, where Chelsea
always does. No, she doesn't need long hair to be professional,
but there needs to be some styling to it, something
to give body or make it look less like she
just ran and brushed through it and called it a day.
It wasn't a lumberjack style flannel. It was black and
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white and pressed nicely. I could have dressed it up
with a jacket, and in hindsight I would have You're
the jerk, she said. She was wearing nice slacks, a
button down and a blazer. How does that translate to
you wearing jeans and a flannel? You picking apart her
physical appearance makes you double the jerk? Why do you
think she needs to wear makeup and have special hairdos
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for work? From what I read here, her work is
business professional and she meets it. How she looks is irrelevant. Eta,
Apollo and Khakis are business casual. You showed up casual?
Am I the jerk for not acting impressed by my
wife's accomplishment. I'm twenty eight male and my wife who's
twenty six female. We've been married for close to seven years.
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We currently have five kids together who are six, four, three,
and my wife gave the fraternal twins, son and daughter,
a year and a half ago. My wife intended to
graduate high school the year we got married, but life
got in the way. My dad had given me an
investor relations type of role at his company, so we
were traveling a lot, and then after that, our kids
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needed our attention. After our twins were born, my wife
was bedridden for longer than we and even the doctors expected.
Since we had to hire extra hands to do the
childcare tasks that involved mobility, my wife had some time
on her hands. Her mother told her that her friend,
who proctors at a testing center, said that they give
GED tests basically every week at least across the state
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of Idaho, and that she should dust off her general
education knowledge. She started browsing her laptop and decided to
enroll in a GED prep class online. It seemed she
was better at self pace learning than classroom learning, because
the stuff they were testing her on came way easier
to her now than it did back in school, even
though she's been away from structured classroom instruction for many years. Now,
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even after she back on her feet, she'd be studying
for it. After she dropped the old two off to
their respective schools. I would see that she was studying,
and it looked pretty rudimentary. And I knew that getting
a GED basically means nothing, and that she probably wouldn't
be able to apply it to anything career wise or
commit full time to community college, where I doubt the
job prospects for students are that great right now either.
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So my wife ended up taking the test, and the
other day she bounded into the room and said, yes,
I passed. Yes. I knew she would since she was
doing well on the practice tests, and the GED consistently
tests on the same rudimentary topics. I did not gripe
at her, but merely nodded at her and went back
to answering an important email from a client. My wife
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seemed to get upset, and I asked her what was wrong.
She said, I didn't seem that excited, and I said
that it's great that she passed, but I've been telling
her that it was easy and no big deal. But
if she needed something to prove to herself she knew
the high school concepts. I guess the money was well spent.
She got more upset and said she worked very hard
and this was the essential building blocks to being able
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to start a career. Am I the jerk? My wife
passed her GED test, but she wasn't exactly graduating from
college and wouldn't be for at least fifteen years. I
just didn't see any mediate applicability to her test. But
I am glad she had something to challenge her while
she was coming off being unable to fully care for
the kids. You're the jerk. You're a major jerk. Your
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wife is trying to look after five kids and found
the time to get her GED Why don't you let
her go out of town for a week and see
how hard it is to look after five kids. Would
it have hurt you to get up and hugger and
tell her how proud you are of her? Maybe take
her out to dinner one night to celebrate. Wow. I
hope this isn't indicative of the respect you give her
the rest of the time. You're the jerk, Like there
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needs to be a level above this rating for this post.
She feels accomplished because she did something that she put
on hold for your lives together. Meanwhile, daddy handed you
a job and you reak of self importance. You're the jerk.
You have important emails from clients to answer, and your wife,
who has five kids under the age of seven, was
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finally able to get her ged and you sniff. It's
obvious you see your wife as nothing more than an underling.
Keep in mind, dude, you had to get your job
from your daddy. Attend a mandatory interview for a job
they don't want. In my late teens, I worked for
the Job Center. I was sitting in observing an employer
interviewing for warehouse jobs. My role was to confirm the
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attendees were responding seriously rather than just to keep getting benefits.
My checklist was specific, just a numbered list with check
yes or no. Did they answer this question in full?
Fifteen questions nothing personal about the client, like how they
present themselves or the content of their answers. We had
one client who had been unemployed since before my birth.
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Mister P not incapable of working, he just didn't want to.
Nice enough, chap and very well educated. Sadly for him,
he had been informed that if he didn't attend this
job interview, his benefits would cease for twenty six weeks,
and he trots to his mandatory interview. It had obviously
been raining because he was rather soggy and smelt like
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when you open a tent that's not been used for
a long time. He's wearing full camo gear, a baseball
cap saying bad girl looking for a good time, whilst
pulling a shopping trolley filled with newspapers wrapped in twine.
He's also wearing leather sandals with socks. He proceeds to
remove his sandals and very wet socks, wring them out
over the carpet, and carefully place the socks on the radiator.
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By this point, the interviewing manager's chin is on the floor,
and I'm trying not to look anywhere but my own
lap in case I start laughing. The guy answered all
of the interview questions perfectly normally, but intersperse the time
between questions with comments like I just picked a raspberry
seat from between my teeth. The last time I ate
anything good was about six months ago. Just as they
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were about to win the interview, I'm internally congratulating myself
on keeping my face neutral. He groaned, rubbed his knee,
and announced his cervix had a cramp. I lost it
and I had to leave the room. He did not
get the job. He also kept his benefits. For some reason,
The employer began using a recruitment agency for their vacancies
not long afterwards. Rip, mister P. Well done on beating
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the system for so long. Edit. Just to clarify, mister
P wasn't homeless, had no mental issues, he made us
aware of, and usually dressed normally. I'm not mocking a
vulnerable person. I'm not making fun of anyone's misfortune except
the interviewers. Would I be the jerk for not wanting
a woman? I used to bully at my wedding. I
wasn't a great person in high school. My friends and
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I had our own little clique, and we weren't nice
to some of our classmates. I tried going to college,
but it wasn't for me. I got a job at
a car dealership and eventually started selling cars. I'm pretty
good at it, so I make a good living. My
younger brother did grating university, and he has a pretty
good future ahead of him. After he graduated, he started
working in the city and there's a club there for
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graduates from his university. He ran into a girl that
I wasn't very nice to in high school. She's a
couple of years older than him, but they started dating.
I don't think she realized he was my brother. He
likes that they grew up in the same town. They're
at the meeting the family stage, and he brought her
home for Christmas. My parents had sold their home after
we all moved out, so they didn't live in the
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same town anymore. She recognized me right away. I didn't
recognize her. I guess she got past the ugly duckling
part of growing up. She is very physically attractive. She
is also doing well in life. She didn't say anything
until I approached her after dinner. She asked if I
honestly couldn't remember her. I didn't until she reminded me
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of the stuff I used to say to her. I
felt sick to my stomach. I immediately apologized for everything
and said that I had been a bad kid and
that I had grown up since then. She said that
she was glad and that she accepted my apology. I
sent out my wedding invitations recently and my brother risvp't
with his plus one. I asked him who he was bringing.
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He said that he was bringing his girlfriend, the girl
from Christmas, so I guess she never mentioned me. I
kind of want to ask him not to bring her.
A lot of my old friends will be at the wedding,
and I don't want anything to happen. She forgave me,
but I still think it's kind of strange that she
never brought up our past to my brother. Would I
be a jerk if I asked him not to bring
her to my wedding? You're the jerk. You don't sound
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like you've grown into as much of a better person
since high school as you credit yourself. With ugly duckling phase.
You're still in your mean girl's phase. You're the jerk.
She accepted your apology, and she hasn't told your brother
how awful you were or tried to drive a wedge
between you. She hasn't done anything to try to get
revenge on you, but you still want to exclude her.
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You're still not a great person. You're the jerk. This
is real life, not a Hallmark Our Channel movie. She
sounds like she's grown up past her high school experience,
but you have not. What do you think she's going
to do at your wedding? Have some big scene where
she calls you out. Real humans tend not to do
that kind of stuff? Am I the jerk for making
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fun of my friend for not washing ground chicken? I?
Male twenty five have a friend, female twenty five, whom
I often cook with. Nothing romantic between us. We just
like to get together every once in a while. One
thing we do is food prep once a month, and
every single time I use chicken or a roast, she
insists on washing the meat. I've tried out multiple occasions
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to explain to her that meat doesn't need to be
washed before you cook it. She refuses to listen, and
she refuses to eat the food we make unless I
wash the meat. We got together this morning for our
food prep day. She brought a big package of ground chicken.
I had chicken thighs and pork chops as usual. She
insisted that I washed the meat. I asked her if
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she wanted to use the sink to wash her ground
chicken before we used it. She said I was being
ridiculous because ground meat doesn't need to be washed because
the meat gets washed before they grind it. I said
she was being silly because that makes no sense. I
pulled up a YouTube video of ground chicken bean made. Nope,
the meat never got washed. She said that it was
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just one video, so I asked her to find one
where they washed the meat. She couldn't. She said that
her mom always washed the meat before she cooked it.
I asked her if her mom washed the ground meat too.
She said I was being a jerk for making fun
of her and her mom. We made our food in
silence and she left, but she's still mad at me,
not the jerk. The USDA says not to wash meat
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because doing so can spread pathogens, but maybe check with
her on where her mom grew up. Maybe they didn't
have the same food safety laws, And depending on how
old her mom is, maybe she grew up at a
time where it was a good idea. We farm and
raise hogs, chickens, cows. My grandpa was an inspector for USDA.
Some habits are ingrained, My partner was raised in farming,
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and some meat still get a quick rinse and the
sink gets sterilized. It really isn't the end of the world.
Just make sure to have strong disinfectant. He's not the jerk,
and it's odd, but some people have comfort zones and rituals.
Not the jerk, And it doesn't sound like you were
making fun of her. Washing meat actually spreads more bacteria
unless you're also giving the sink a good scrub each
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time with something disposable, and cooking your food kills whatever
bacteria is on it. If she wants to have this
hang up about her food, fine, but she's got no
business forcing it on you. Sounds like cooking might not
be the best of activities to share. My ex's daughter
keeps destroying my relationships on purpose. Hi thirty five female
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used to dat a guy we'll call Jacob thirty seven male.
We dated for nine months before we mutually agreed to
break up. Jacob has a sixteen year old daughter we'll
call Emma. Emma's mom is not in her life, and
apparently all previous exes treated her horribly. Emma calls me mom.
I never had an issue with it even after the breakup,
since I knew she didn't really have one and I
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cared for her. Emma often comes to visit me and
stays over. About two months ago, I went on a date.
Emma found out, but acted really excited for me and
even insisted on helping me pick out a dress. We
had a blast and even went for ice cream after
the date went well and I thought things were going good. However,
about one week later, I received a text from my
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date calling me a horrible person and telling me to
never talk to him again. This happened for the next
three dates I went on, and at this point I
knew something was up. On the fourth date, the same
thing happened as the previous three dates. However, this time
I decided to ask for an explanation. He then sent
me screenshots of messages he had received from a random number,
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claiming that I had a family and that I was cheating.
I was shocked to see that the number which sent
the messages was Emma's. Emma came over later that day
and I showed her the screenshots and asked if she
sent this to all my previous dates. She admitted to
sending this message to all my dates and apologized, saying
that she thought if I had got in a relationship,
she would lose me. I felt bad and told her
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that she would never lose me and I would always
be there for her. We had a heart to heart
and then got sushi and I thought this was the
end of it. I went on another date last week.
I had told my date about Emma and everything that
had happened with her. He thought it was funny and
had no problem with her being in my life still. Well,
a day later, he sent me a message, and what
do you know, Emma had messaged him the exact same
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messages she sent to everyone else. I called Emma and
asked why she did this again when we had already
talked about it, and told her that if she doesn't stop,
she will not be able to come over to my
house for a while, which is something I don't want
to do. She got mad and started losing it on me,
before saying that I should get back with her father
because we didn't end on bad terms. Before hanging up
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on me, I called her father and explained the situation.
I told him that I think we need to get
her a therapist, as I think our break up affected
her more than we thought. I then told him that
until the situation was resolved and she apologized, she shouldn't
come over to my house for a while. I would
still talk to her, just not see her until she
starts therapy. Well, her father was furious. He called me
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everything in the book and said that while she was
in the wrong and should see a therapist, I was
a jerk for essentially cutting her out of my life
because of it. I explained that it was only temporarily
until the situation was resolved. However, he hung up. It's
been a day and I feel really bad as I'm
the only healthy mother figure she's ever had. However, I
don't think I'm in the wrong, as it's only until
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she starts therapy. So am I the jerk? Support our
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