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January 29, 2025 62 mins
Get ready to drop in on a ride through BMX history, 80s nostalgia, and the legendary film RAD! Hosted by Rick Haney and Brandon Shaw, Reel 33 dives into the golden era of BMX, featuring interviews with pro riders, actors, and the people who helped shape the sport. 

This episode welcomes the legendary Hollywood Mike Miranda, who shares untold stories from the set, the rise of BMX culture, and how RAD still inspires new generations. Whether you're an OG rider or a new fan, this podcast is your ultimate guide to BMX past and present.Tune in for exclusive stories, behind-the-scenes moments, and a tribute to the sport that changed lives.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
It was the nineteen eighties. For guys like me, things
were already awesome. We had MTV, the Goonies, Karate Kid,
and Back to the Future. Some of us wore parachute
pants and some of us wore bugle boys. We jammed
a Prince Men at work, Cyndi Lauper and Madonna. The

(00:24):
world was covered in neon, and people spoke and synthesized beats. Now,
I'm just kidding about that last part, but it really
was a rad time, and for those of us coming
of age in those days, there was no place more
rad than our old neighborhoods. As we cruised around on
our bikes with the best friends we'll ever have. We raced, jumped,

(00:46):
and crashed around like evil Canievil and the world was
ours for the taking. But then, almost out of nowhere,
this guy comes along.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Okay, dudes, let's walk this soccer.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
And everything changed. He was one of us, a paperboy
who thought he was a pro, with the raw, determination
and talent to prove he was.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
He inspired us.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Into believing that we were pros too, and over thirty
five years later, that legacy still stands. I'm Rick Haney,
I'm a forty eight year old dad with two kids.
We watch RAD on a regular basis, and it's no
surprise to me that thousands of other dads still have
their VHS copy of the film, not only introducing their

(01:34):
kids to the awesome sport of BMX, but teaching them
that they too can be champions no matter the odds.
Join me in my Radical co host Brandon Shaw as
we talk about BMX past and present, stories about the
legacy of RAD and how guys just like us all
over the world are getting back on their bikes after

(01:56):
three decades. We'll talk with the professional rider, athletes and
actors who helped make the film so memorable. Welcome, Welcome,
Welcome everybody to another episode of Real thirty three. Rick
Haney joined by the awesome dude, Brandon Shaw.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Hey, Hey, Rick, man, I'm excited about the episode.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Of the night.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Oh, this has been a long time coming.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Man.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I uh, I don't even want to keep talking. I
just want to bring him on.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah, let's bring on the legendary the one, the only
Hollywood Mike Miranda.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Aged today he has today.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Folks see that that's my first traumatic exit right there.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh, which means there will be more than one you
never know.

Speaker 4 (02:44):
With me, you never know. Hey, fellas, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
We're doing great, man, I'm to have you on buddy.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Same here, same here.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yeah. So let's get started. I mean, let's start with
first of all, let's talk about Mike Miranda, how he
got into I said, let's kind of keep it brief,
but let's start with how you end up getting a
roll and run like to be on like a Factor team.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I guess so well, sure, like most guys like me,
I wanted to be a motocross star, but my parents
couldn't afford a motorcycle. So I put motorcycle handlebars on
my BMXI and that was the beginning of it all.
And then so I started racing BMX in my local
track and then went on to make it as a
factory pro and and just had a great career all

(03:26):
over the world promoting BMX and earning some money for
my folks.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Awesome. Okay, So the years, I guess nineteen eighty five
and suddenly there's a movie coming out. Let's talk about
how you got chosen, how you got picked, how it happen.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Sure, I'll tell you what I what I know is
in nineteen eighty five, I was riding as the factory
pro for Hutch and Uh and I got a call
from the magazine asking me if I wanted to be
in this movie. So I called Hutch, my sponsor, and said, hey, Hutch,
I want to be in this movie. And Hutch said
to me, well, your scheduled to go to South Africa

(04:03):
to promote BMX for this, you know, for me? And
I said South Africa, But Hutch, I could be famous
to being a movie And Hutch said to me, why
would you want to? No one will remember that thing.
In a year, it'll all be done and I could
sell more bikes. And here we are, what thirty something
years later and we're talking about rad.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
We are we are indeed? So so after I hit
the movie theaters, was he well? Was he well pleased?
Especially you were one of the more iconic riders in the.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Movie for sure. Yeah, but I had to I had
to work hard to get to be more iconic in
the movie. And I'm sure we'll talk about that. Yeah,
he was pleased. I think everyone was pleased about the
movie except my dad. Why was that because like a
lot of like a lot of folks, I guess I
bought I think I bought forty tickets to the movie

(04:53):
theater the day it came out, and I brought all
my friends and all my family, anyone I could wrangle
in there to go with me, and we all went
to our local theater to watch it, and uh, and
it was all fun and games and people were cheering
when I came on. And when I walked out, my
dad said, mijo, you crashed a lot. He didn't understand that.

(05:14):
He didn't understand because he saw me training all the time.
He didn't have any ideas that I was crashing on purpose.
So I had to explain it to him that, hey, dad,
that's how I made more money. And he was like, oh, okay,
well was wow, I don't know, eighty twenty three.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
You're twenty three years old, yes, sir, all right, and
at twenty three you're about to I mean, look at
the time, you were a double a pro.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
I guess, yes, sir. I was a double a pro,
had had, you know, won a few big titles and
a few big races, and and uh, you know, was
just set to be a pro. Bmxer had no idea
that this opportunity was ever going to happen, and had
no idea. Again, thirty three years later, here we are
talking about.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
It, and where did the Hollywood come from? Because here
you are now doing a Hollywood movie and your Hollywood
mind Miranda.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, I'll tell you the short version. It's because I
like to show off. That's how I got the name,
you know. And uh, and all the things I did
since I got the name has kept it, kept it
what it is. You know. I do. I jump a lot,
I show off. I seem to be a bit more
extravagant than most and I'm the life of the party.
So that's what That's how I keep staying Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Now, is that part of the persona with the mustache
or was that part of it or.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Did you do? Oh no, that thing just popped up
when I was twelve years old. I never shaved, it
never left always. Yeah. I was probably twelve years old
when it started, and by the time I was fourteen
it was a caterpillar. I looked like magnum p I
when I was fifteen years old.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, that was the look though. That was the look that.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Was Hey, yeah, that worked for that worked for the
That worked for the girls and their moms.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Oh, that's so legendary.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Oh dude, let me tell you rock that mustache and
irock z. You're doing all right, it's gonna be a
good night. So take the t tops and cruise around.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Oh yeah, that's amazing. Obviously, you played yourself in the movie.
I mean, you weren't really acting, but you're you be
kind of you kind of became your own character by
falling down. You were like the fall guy of the movie.
And that's kind of where you're cemented. How did that
come into play and did you did you volunteer that
or were you directed specifically by by Hal or anybody else.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
I'll tell you, Rick, that is a great story. And
here's what happened. Uh when I heard that jose Yanez
was making fifteen hundred dollars for every single jump he did,
whether it was you know, whether it was uh you
know it was cut cut, or it was whatever it
was every time and I and I thought to myself, Oh,
I got to get me some of that scratch. So

(07:57):
the first day we were filming was I wanted the
straightaways and the turn and I walked up to hell
need hm out of nowhere. I didn't go to the
stunt director I didn't talk to Eddie Fiola. I went
straight to hell Needham and I said, excuse me, mister Needham,
and he looked out of his chair and he had
no idea who I was. I said, mister Needham, you

(08:18):
know what would be really awesome is if somebody went
right up and flew over the turn, because that happens
in the real races. And again I didn't approve this
by anybody. I just went straight to the source, straight
to the guy who was writing the checks and I
and he goes, yeah, that would be good. And I said, well,
I'll do that for five hundred dollars, and he was
He looked at me and he goes all right, all right,

(08:40):
go ahead. So he had the guys. I thought they
were gonna set kind of an airbag or something. They
didn't put anything back there but a row of cardboard boxes,
and so I was jammed straight at it. I wasn't
a stunt man. I didn't know what I was doing.
I just peddled straight at that thing, went right up
over and yanked my bike over. Thank you Kevin Hall

(09:08):
for giving this to me. And so I would right
over right into the cardboard boxes and mashed up and
that was it, and uh, it was just a one
shot wonder and I thought it was fun. And then, uh,
you know, a week and a half or so later,
when we were doing the Cliffhanger, mm hmm. I went up,

(09:30):
I went up to the I went up to mister
Needham and I said, hey, mister Needham. Now by this
time he knew who I was, which is there'll be
a couple more stories about that. He knew who I was,
and he looked down out of his chair sam I disgusted,
and he said, what do you want, Hollywood? And I said,
you know, what would be kind of cool as if

(09:50):
someone didn't make it all the way up and flew
all the and crashed all the way down. And he
looked at me and he laughed and he said, well,
how much is that going to cost me? And I
gave him another said fifteen hundred bound dollars and he goes,
all right, go get set up. And so you got
to pay that. I man, I was earning my keep.

(10:10):
And uh and so they did. And once again I'm thinking, oh,
that's like three stories four stories high. They'll have some
you know, they're gonna they'll put up the air bag
and all that. Dang it, if they did just put
more cardboard boxes. That was what I knew, right man?
It was this far uh And you know what I
thought to myself, Okay, yeah, you know, it's fifteen hund

(10:33):
dollars every take. So I went up that thing and
flew down and landed square on my back. And I'm
not if I didn't say it before, I'm not a
stunt man. So like a ding dong, I held my
breath and when I hit those boxes, poosh knocked the
wind out of me. But I scrambled out of those
boxes and people were applauding, and I went straight up

(10:53):
to meet mister Needham and I said, how about another take?
And he said, no, I think we got in Hollywood
and that and that was the beginning of my the
beginning of my stunt career.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
If you will awesome that you're a bonus cash total, then.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Oh, why let's see. Let's see. I collected some cans,
I stole some memorabilia. No, it was uh, I got too.
I made an extra two thousand dollars, but I don't know,
you know, I don't remember what the per diem was
and the extra money we got at just for being there.
M okay, but it was what was blast?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
How long? How long was I?

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I think two and a half weeks? And then I
had I had to leave. I had to leave for
a race.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Let me ask you this, Mike. So you're well on
your way as an established rider and Hollywood comes calling,
What was it like to see those kind of when
you look back on it now, are you seeing two
different pictures?

Speaker 4 (12:02):
Is it all just it's all part of it. It's
all part of the circus of my life. Yeah, it's
all part of theirs of my life. At the time,
it was a pleasant vacation. Well, it was a vacation
because you know, I did a little training while I
was there. I did a little training while I was there,
But it was it was either two and a half,
you know, two weekends. I didn't go to race, so

(12:23):
it was a little time off. You know. It was good.
It was fun. Plus, hanging around with the fellas is
always a good time. I'm always trying to entertain myself,
which entertains them. Some worked out.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Great, that's great. Who was the most entertaining on set
other than you, of course.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Other than me. Wow, mister Needham yelling at me. That
was probably it.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Did you have a short fuse?

Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh? I don't know, but I was walking around in
with a Roman candle trying to light that fuse off.
I was good. I was goofing around all the time,
and it was you know, it was a little bit disruptive.
Can I tell you about the most disruptive thing I did? Absolutely? Absolutely,
Oh my gosh. Every day. You know the scenes where HB.

(13:07):
Haggerty would ride on that big motorcycle. You know, it
was cool. But then they had a second one where
the actual police officer because it was a police officer
on set and he did the actual riding through the
lumberyard and whatnot. So there were two of them and
one of them sat there all the time with the
keys in it. Well, boys, let me tell you this,
shooting a movie is the most boring thing you'll ever do.

(13:29):
You know, we never wrote a whole lap. We would
just ride one straight away and one turn and they'd
go cut and then they move all the cameras and
when they do all that, it's a couple of hours.
And if you got if you got hdd in H,
if you have add in HD like I do, Man
that's just trouble. So I kept staring at that motorcycle

(13:51):
with the key sitting in it, and man, one time
they said, cut, we're moving the cameras. We're gonna break
for lunch. That's all I needed to hear. I ran over,
put my BMX helmet on, I had Bermuda shorts on.
I think I had my jersey on, and I just
started that cop motorcycle off and I took off and
I got a tour of Calgary. I just rode all
over town, honking the horn, blowing the siren, having a blast,

(14:15):
and I got to see town anyway. Apparently when I
got back, they were looking for that motorcycle and they
were looking for me, and Man, I got in my family.
We called an ass chewing. I got an as chewing,
not the first one and not the last one, but
I got an ass showing that day. But it was
let me tell you, it was worth it. It was

(14:36):
a highlight, one of the highlights of doing the movie.
You know. The other highlight I'd have to say is
I think it was either Kevin Hall or Scott Clark. Again,
we're sitting around doing nothing, So I took it upon
myself to take out his bottom bracket and his cranks,
and take his rear wheel off and switch everything to
the opposite side. So when he got on, it was

(14:57):
just a freewheel when he pedaled forward, and I thought
that was hilarious. But then they had to stop everything
and he had to go and fix his bike, and
but you know, I was just entertaining myself, you discover.
Oh yeah, And I got yelled at for that too.
So now you guys understand. By the time I by
the time we got to the cliff, heir, he was like,

(15:18):
what is it, Hollywood?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, hey, Rick, We're gonna go ahead and do this quick,
in real fast, because I want to cover these and
I think it's gonna lead to some great stories. Mike,
I'm gonna read out teen questions. Okay, I want you
to give me the first thing that pops in your head. Okay,
so careful from out here we go. All right, your

(15:42):
favorite racer on.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Set, Hollywood, Mike Miranda.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
You can't say yourself, you didn't kill me any rules.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Now, you can't make them up as we go, okay,
uh Kevin sheep dog Hole.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Well, okay, favorite actor you met or actors?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Bill Allen Allen.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, number three, who would you who would have actually
won hell Track from the cast, not including yourself?

Speaker 4 (16:12):
I would have been close between Scott Clark and Richie Anderson,
both of them were established BMX pros. I would have
been given and Anne Travis Chaprez. But of those three,
Scott Clark probably Scott Clark.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Okay, who started? And this again, you can't choose yourself
who started or caused the most trouble.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
That rad other than year There isn't even a close
second place. Man, are you kidding me? Man? Cause them?
Rick Mullaterno, Rick okay, all right, yeah, we'll get that later. There.
What's doing there?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
What BMX racer or freestyler? Would you have liked to
have been there? That wasn't there? Who was missing that
you would like to have seen there?

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Mmm? Tommy Brackens, he's my brother, my twin brother.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Exactly right, Fox at your tiger.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Oh I'm a married man. I can't answer that. Come on,
you're gonna get me in trouble.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
You can get back thirty years not now then? Then?

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Oh then uh tiger? All right, just because I know
everyone picks the other.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
One a fair, fair answer other than your setup, who
had the best back in Uti combo uniform and back combo?
Who had the best ones set up? Eddie Fiola Eddifield?

Speaker 4 (17:41):
Okay with a GT with the mohawk on the hell mat.
He stood out? He stood out?

Speaker 2 (17:48):
All right, you can only bring one person? Who would
you bring back for RAD two? Eddie Fiola Eddie Fila?
All right, argue arguably the.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
Most talented showman on the entire show.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
All right, Now, you were Team Hunch in RAD one?
What team would you represent in RAD two?

Speaker 4 (18:08):
Wooing? That's a good question. Wow, I would it have
to be a team from the eighties? Yes, oh man?
Uh GT because they pay the best.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Okay, all right? And the last question I think in
the answer, but this would be interesting. Who would be
Who would you say was the most popular rider on set?
How about y'all.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Again excluding myself? Most popular? Oh man, that is a
tough one. Uh. You know, there's so many nice guys
on the set. Probably Kevin Hole again, he's he's just
the nicest guy. So I don't Yeah, he's certainly the

(18:58):
nicest guy most pot be there. Yeah, i'd still say him.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
All right, he's texting, you know, that's where it comes from.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
That's right, that's it.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
So uh all right, let's see here a couple of
things we want to talk about. Would you shave the
mustache if they told you to?

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Not just no, but hey no.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
So twenty three of Mike Randon cannot be in the
movie because he won't shave the stash. You gotta go
home and you're.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
That's right, you know again, unless it was a paid stunt. Well,
if you'd have paid me, done it?

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Okay, So again you're everything for pay. I wrote down
earlier Rex for pay all right, let's see uh.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Hey, and shaves for pay too. I'll shave right now
if you guys want to pay me.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
But no, I would that costs Oh.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
No, I got a Christmas party. I'm Sandy Claus for.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
It.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Man, I'll put money up for best, I'll do it.
I if you saw the thing of him in his
underwear jump into a pool last year. Let's see here,
let's talk about the pink bike setup. Rick, you got
some questions about that?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, you know, I've always been curious. Just a quick
little backstory. I don't know, nineteen eighty six, eighty seven,
somewhere around there. I'm in bangor Maine where I grew up,
neighborhood full of kids, and one of the guys, the
toughest guy of all of them, of course, shows up
with this bright pink hotch trick star. None of us

(20:33):
had ever seen one before. Half of us had never
seen the movie, and so like they were just kind
of people that came in on the freestyle racing train,
but you know, just in the neighborhood or whatever. So
half of us knew about the bike, half of us
had never seen it before. And one of the guys
starts teasing the bike was pink and got the shit

(20:54):
kicked out of him for making comments about his brand
new bike. So I have long since wondered how that
came to be, and uh, you know how it became
such a an icon of bikes of that era.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Well, let me tell you the lesson your friend should
have learned that I spit out many times in my
in my career was when someone would sit, takes a
brave man to ride a pink bike. I used to say,
it takes a braver man to make a comment about it.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
That's exactly what happened. I love it.

Speaker 4 (21:27):
I love it yep. So it started off with a
pink with a peak uniform. That was the first thing. Uh.
Mister John Gregory, the owner of j T Racing, he
he he knew I was going over to France. I
was going to Paris, France for a big, big event.
And he said, Hey, I've got something special I want
you to wear. And I was like, yes, sir, mister Gregory,

(21:49):
because he was a big man, and he leaned on me.
He said, it's a pink uniform. And I just shook
my head. But what was I gonna say. He's a
great sponsor and a great man. So I showed up
in Franks with all pink uniform and uh and they
went wild. They went wild. Well, you know, I flew
back to the United States and the next race I

(22:09):
had to go to first from Paris, came home. Uh,
Hutch Hutch heard all about it. He heard how great
it was and how the people went crazy over it,
and so he he got this notion that he said, uh, hey,
I'm gonna make his Hollywood series bikes and we're gonna
make him pink, violet and baby blue. And I said, sure,

(22:32):
sounds great. Huch. They love it. Well. The next the
next week, I flew to the next race, which was
in Houston, Texas Pasadena to be exact, inside of Gilly's
Rodeo Arena, I show up wearing all pink. Boy, they
didn't go crazy that day. I walked into the I
walked into the bar to ask for something to eat,

(22:54):
and a big fellow, big buckle, big hat, turned to
me and he saw me in my old pink uniform
and he goes, you're not from around here, are you? Boy?
Then so it caught on though. It absolutely caught on,
and the pink bike sold three to one to the
other colors.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's the one time.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
I remember we were all wearing pink converse. You remember
that converse with lots of pink pink, and it was
a thing at the time. I got a couple of
fights for wearing pink a few times.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
I still wear it all the time. I still wear
pink all the time. My kids give me pink pink
shirts for my birthday and Christmas. You know, I made
it famous, so I still rocket all the time.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Actually, I was talking to Eddie Fiola at at Frogtown
about this. But you know, there's there's there's Bill Allen,
There's Eddie. You know, Richie Martin. But you, without a doubt,
if you're to name like the top couple guys in
that movie that stood out, you got Alan, Eddie Fiola
and you and Mark also seems to be You're definitely

(23:57):
out of the racers. I think take top On and
you know between the pink uniform, the stash and the
wrecking there you get that was your your magic combo.
I mean, do you do you notice that that's kind
of the way it is?

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Oh, absolutely, without question. And I'll tell you fellas a week.
A week does not go by in my life that
somebody doesn't mention rad to me in some way, same
way ship or for him. And sometimes it's as random
as can be. Today in home depot, no kidding, yeah,
today in home depot.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
How does they go down? I mean they just they
do they walk they stare at you and you catch
them staring, or do they walk over.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
You with the Santa Claus costume. It doesn't happen, but
sometimes sometimes it'll come out. Like I went to home
Depot and I and I bought one small piece of
angle iron. He goes, well, what are you doing with that?
And I said, oh, you know, I have a podcast
studio and I got to hang something. And he goes, oh,
what's your podcast about vintage BMX and he and then
he launches into oh, you know, I loved this. I

(24:59):
love movie. And then without me saying that, he says, yeah,
you know, and I had a pink bike because I
like that Hollywood guy. And I just started cracking up
at the counter and he's at the pro desk and
I am cracking up, and I said, and I just
put my credit card. I said, I'll pay for that.
And I put my card down. He looked at it

(25:19):
and that was it. Man lost his mind.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
That legendary story. I love it. Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Happens all the time. It sure is great. But let
me tell you what my kids do. Let me tell
you what my kids do to me. They were just
here for you know, they're just here. All four were
here for Thanksgiving. This is the kind of things my
kids do. They'll put they'll put they'll bring rad put
it in the in the DVD player, or they'll have
it on Apple and they'll have it up and they

(25:47):
have the sound crank all the way up and paused.
And when I walk in the room, send me a name,
Joe they just love to get me. They love to
do that to me. Awesome.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Yeah, what's probably been the coolest thing that's happened to
you since rad that was connected to Red, like meeting
a fan or something like what's happened that sticks out
in your mind over the years?

Speaker 4 (26:11):
That was like, oh, sure, last last weekend, just this
past weekend, we were in San Antonio doing a rat event.
It was myself, Eddie Bill Allen and and Kevin Hall
and fantastic and people stood in line for well over
an hour just to get our autograph and to get
a picture with us. And there was a there was

(26:32):
a young man that was in line with his dad
and he was he was touched. He was a special needs,
special needs young man. And the coolest thing I can
tell you is that boy he watched that movie over
and over again. It was his you know, his dad
says he watches it all the time. And when he
saw us, he lost his mind and we chatted him up.

(26:53):
And when I asked him, what's your you know, how
does it make you feel watching that movie all the time,
he just put his arm up and he said, I
feel like I have power. Amazing, And man, let me
tell you when you when you can thrill a special
needs child like that and impact somebody positive, that's the
best thing. That's the best thing.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Very cool.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
That's probably the bons I've heard, Yeah, Brandon, honestly.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
And then that's forty eight hours ago. Forty eight hours ago.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, you're about four hours from where I'm at. I
there's a small apartment that want to jump in a
car and go there, but it's kind of a good drive.
So so what's probably the coolest? I know, you guys,
I've been around Bill for a long time and I
know he gets gifts quite often, Okay, and I've actually
been with Bill where he's been recognized like some random
McDonald's and like it's screw Jones, Like people freak out

(27:46):
the t spirit.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Let me take it back, Mike, back to X Games
two thousand and I think fifteen. It was in Austin, Texas,
and you know, I knew that people knew, like we
showed up, they knew it was Bill Allen. They expecting that.
When We're walking through X Games in the middle of
the crowd and I hear people going Crew Jones, like,
oh my god, people will recognizing this guy. You know

(28:09):
X games, there's be an X there, but it's X game.
There's luck going on. I was kind of blown away
by how how people recognize him to this day. And
then I've also met about twelve or thirteen Crew Jones
babies and you know, people's were reckoned. But so the
impact it's had has been amazing. But he gets lots
of free stuff. You know, it's it's to this day,
what's the coolest gift you've been given because you're a RAD.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Oh, the coolest gift ever received? Because oh, I know
it's it's laid back here somewhere. There's a picture right
back here, I'm put pointing at it. Yep, from an
eight year old boy in Rome, Georgia. He hand he
hand drew me a birthday card because he watched RAD.

(28:55):
He hand drew me a birthday card from my birthday,
just a couple of weeks ago. And uh, and it's
it's in the it's in every it's in every episode
of my podcast. Uh, that's the coolest thing. First thing
comes to my mind.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Very cool, very cool. Now since the popularity, I guess
during COVID, I watched this thing just spiral out of
controlling I mean, that's what I I mean, it was already.
I mean, I've been part of this for a while.
I've been watching it grow get more and more popular.
But and Covid really launched it and the re release
of the DVD. When did Mike Morande really I guess

(29:29):
kind of get I guess now at this point it
started to really change. Like it's you're probably busy doing
rats up more than you ever have in the past, right.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah. It coincides with with me starting my own podcast,
the Dirty Knobs Podcast. So I think the culmination of
both the combination of both those things, of of Covid
and people stuck looking for entertainment something to do watch it.
So they're watching RAD and they're listening to podcasts, and

(29:58):
if they're you know, fans of both Vintage BMX and
the movie Rad, that's what that's probably just was the catalyst.
Is this big surgeon in popularity.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Okay, I've seen you do. I've seen to do several
things connected to RAD, like I saw at the movie theaters,
on social media last year, I've seen you last weekend.
Of course. Did you start doing kind of RAD related things?
Is that something started recently? Have you always been for
the last twenty thirty years doing that's kind of things.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Just recently, just recently, you know, I've I think that
occasionally I would do something, but I've been so busy
with my career that I hadn't hadn't really paid that
much attention to it and uh, and it wasn't until
just recently that, like I said, during during COVID, is
where I really found myself with some time on my

(30:50):
hands and and a lot more interest and had a
great time doing it. I've had a blast doing it absolutely.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, I've been ever guessed a million years that it
would be this popular in twenty twenty four, you know,
something from back in nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Right right, gosh, dang.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
I mean you want to talk about you know, longevity.
It's it's amazing how much RAD has impacted the entire
BMX industry, Like, oh oh yeah, going from RAD and
then you know the the uh you know, the launch
of the X games and seeing the RAD resurgence as

(31:30):
a result of that. What was all that like to experience?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Well, so I've always worked in the bicycle industry, and
when all that was going on, when I just felt
was great. I think it's great for the sport of BMX.
More importantly, I think it's awesome that it keeps keeps
young people riding on bicycles, because you know, I wouldn't
be sitting obviously, I wouldn't be sitting here today talking
to you guys. I doubt i'd be. I'd have the

(31:58):
station in life that I do if it wasn't for
that dumb BMX bike and uh and I and I
still love it every day. I'm also a track operator,
so I operate a BMX track here in Arizona, and
uh and my mission hasn't changed, man, I just still
try to get kids riding bikes every day and build

(32:19):
it in my community.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Very cool. Yeah, Arkansas, by the way, do you know that,
I beg pardon, You're very well loved in Benton Bo, Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
We went and did a rat in there a few
years ago. I'm back twenty twenty to be exactly, and
they were just raving about you. He's here all the time, man,
He's always around. I guess whatever you were doing, I
guess connected you to those guys somehow.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
That's right, working in the bike industry and uh and
you guys, you guys can probably already tell already. I
like to have a good time, and I like everyone
around me to have a good time. So it's just started,
you know. I just feel like it's my place in
life to make the world around me better as best
I can. And uh, and I'm still trying to do it.
I'm still trying to be Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Okay, let me ask you a couple of things from
the movie. What do you have from the movie? Any
you have the bike? Do you have any collectible stuff?
You have your uniform? What do you have from Rat?

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, the bike, the jersey, helmet. Uh, let's see what else?
I have a script, I got a collection of photos
thanks to the sheep Dog. Yeah. And I've got some
autographs and I got a signed book from Bill Allen.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Okay, so you have the bike that let's go back
to that. You have that hunch, yes, sir, Well I
don't ever see it? Do you do? You put on this? Lady?
Where's it?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
It's on the other side of that wall right there?

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Really, yes, sir?

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
What's what's what's the magic number? I'm now you've been
offered some money for it, haven't you.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Uh, you know, there's some no, no, because I don't
tell anyone I have it, So you're gonna have You're
gonna have to cut this part out.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I mean, why do you keep it hidden?

Speaker 4 (34:10):
I don't. I don't keep it hidden. I just don't.
Haven't just done it, haven't haven't done anything with it.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Mike, you're looking great shape. Go grab it and pull
it in front of the camera.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Fat Ain no chance he's extorting you.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I wouldn't see this. I never already guessed you had it.
I mean, no one's ever taught. Now it's gonna get
out though. You're Yeah, you're in trouble. You know what,
offer a lot of money for some of his bikes,
and he's turned it down. And I'm pretty sure that
bike probably is prices and doesn't have a price tag
on it either, or it doesn't.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Have a price tag on it either. And uh, and
I know that I know uh Eddie told me that
he had sold his bike and got a pretty penny
for it. And I know that there's there's some collicktables
out there worth a lot, and but there's some stuff
you just can't sell.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, you've got to bring that to dirty fist. Let's
talk about dirty fists.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Holy cow, You think I got time to deal with
my bike at dirty fest? Man, can imagine a vintage
BMX event with freestyle flatland, freestyle bike show, vintage racing,
an eighties party with a pit bike derby that runs
right in the middle of it, foot down, a three

(35:22):
day vintage BMX event with three thousand people. You think
I got time to mess around with my bike? He No,
I'm too busy picking up trash, starting to starting the races.
You know what, I love it again. All I care
about is people having a good time.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
But we both know a gentleman by the name of
Robert Lane that would be happy to display it for
you and keep an eye.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Man, do I love Rob Lane? God dang, greatest guy.
Greatest guy? And you know what, Like I said, I
love BMX and so does he, and he is keeping
history alive by his what he has on display. It's
it's mind blowing the stuff that he has. I tell
everyone watching this podcast, if you ever have the opportunity

(36:10):
and you see that Rob Lane has his stuff at
an event, drive the four hours. It'll be worth it.
Just that alone, It'll be worth it.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Now it's a museum. I mean, I think he really
started pushing it about three and a half four years ago.
And yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Mean he must have spent a lifetime collecting some of
that stuff. Some of the stuff I mean he has.
He has the bikes from the Redline riders from back
in the day. He has you know, their helmets, their uniforms,
he's got. I mean, I don't know how he came
up with all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
And I'm telling you, I'm telling you right now, most
of that stuff he's collected over the last and a
half years.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
He's been on unbelievable. Not only that, not only that,
he is a dear deer man, he is just he
he just loves kids, and he's so generous. He's just amazing. Uh. Well, anyway,
he'll be at dirty Fest June sixth, seventh, and eighth
in Temecula, California. You go to www dot Dirtyfest dot com.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Yeah, sounds like a hell of a time.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Let's give your partners with that, Okay, te, tell us
you your co Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
So I started this podcast and so it was a
dream of mine about five years ago and uh kicked
it off. This is our We're the at the tail
end of our third season and it's done with my
best man, James JV. Vicente and my little brother e C.
Eric Carter That's that's uh, we and we are you know.

(37:33):
Our theme is we just tell the stories and we
bring on guests and we tell the stories that we
just told in the pits. You know, it's about the
stuff you'd never read in a magazine. It's about the backstories,
the and the fun times and and the rental cars.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
Oh yeah, I've heard. I've actually listened to the dirty Pods.
I mean, I'm sorry, dirty knobs quite a bit. And
I've heard I've always heard this story about the rent cars. Anyway,
though Greg Romero used to tell me some pretty classic
stuff back the day he was on GT and some
other guys. But uh tell me right now, like as
far as you and Eric Carter y'all are on Hutch,
is that ill became friends with our Hutch together.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Or yes, Well, you know, when he's quite a bit younger,
and when I would watch him race, and I was
I was just always impressed by his ability, and I
always loved it when he would hit the gate and
everyone would take off, and then he'd have to catch
up and pass everybody because he always did, and I
was always watching how great writer he was, but not

(38:32):
only that, from a great family, wonderful, wonderful supportive parents
that were awesome. And so when when I was on Hutch,
we were Hutch said we're going to make a few
changes and I said, hey, Hutch, if you don't mind,
I'd like to have a say in that. And I said,
you know, most of the bike sales are coming from
the West Coast, and I'm the only West Coast rider,

(38:53):
so why don't we add a couple more West coast guys?
And uh and so I chose the first person. I
was Eric Carter and uh and and because and since
then he's been my little brother.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yea, now it's great. A little backstory of that story
is I had Steve Veltman in town about a month
and a half ago for a spoke Volk and he
was our guest of honor. He was off U and
he was telling me, he's like, you know, I looked
up one day and all of a sudden, Eric Carter's
on the team. We're the same age, and we race
each other. He's like, that's kind of a hint. Then
he told me he's like, he goes I was burnt out.
I was kind of done it all and been there

(39:29):
and done that. He goes again. I looked up in
Eric Carter's on the team that kind of told me, so,
I think there's a tie into all that story.

Speaker 4 (39:38):
Yeah, well, you know it's we all. We all, you know,
we have ebb and flow in our career. And Steve
Veltman came back to have an awesome pro career. But
that was that was probably at a time when you know,
when a lot of young men get distracted by young
and men and women get distracted by other things in life,
and it's hard to stay that dedicated. And so he did.

(39:58):
He he had a little well in his career, but
he sure came back strong, and man, that guy was awesome.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
You know what he did? Do you know what he
did when he took a little break there? Do you
know what he did?

Speaker 4 (40:09):
No? What do you do?

Speaker 2 (40:11):
He started skateboarding in Dallas with some some big dogs.
I don't think anyone knows that Steve Evan became a skater.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
I never heard that and would have never believed that. Wow.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
So he's from Texas and he moved to Dallas when
he was about sixteen seventeen, and there's all these miss
and I don't I didn't know Steveltam. Okay, I knew
he was a rat cap guy and all that, and
all my friends know, well they still they kept racing
while I was out of it. And one two things
he was a rat cap guy. The other thing was
that he kicked Vanillas's ass the rapper.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
I didn't either, that's.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Not that's a myth. I go one of the stories
I've always heard his hell. I lived routed by a
place called Forest Lane. To this day, it's where it's
a cruising strip. I did one story I've always heard
about you, Steve. I want to ask you about you
whipping up on when the life goes Man that they
hot went down, but by the time it got to me,
it was like up here and it's still talked about.
But it's not true, not true. He probably disaster but

(41:09):
that's not true.

Speaker 4 (41:10):
But uh, I don't Yeah, I don't doubt it. Steve
was was big for his age and tough as nails.
Tough as nails.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Yeah, really good dude. But yeah, we talked about the
EC thing today. He was cool about it. He was
just like, yeah, I just started skateboarding, which is really funny. Anyway,
let's talk about let's let's talk about you got the mike, Miranda,
you got the track. What's your track called again?

Speaker 4 (41:32):
Wheelhouse BMX in Prescott Valley, Arizona.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Where did that start? When did you take over the
track operator? Uh?

Speaker 4 (41:39):
A year ago? Just a year brand new track we
got we uh you know, we're building it from the
very beginning with with all the little kids in our community.
It's been great. It's been great to bring BMX back
to Prescott.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
What is your current role in the industry, because you
are in a bike industry, what do you do?

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yes, sir, I'm a territory manager for Marin Bikes and
I covered the south.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Okay, all right, so you never left the bike industry.
And when did you get started on the I guess
the corporate side, the sales side. When did that happen?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Uh? About four months after I broke my back. Okay
ooh yeah, that was eighty eight, eighty nine, eighty nine,
and I went, yeah, I went. I went to work
for Vision Streetwear and then went on to work for
GT Bicycles. All right.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Now, going back in time here, you rode for Seeker.
I guess the t shirts on the back of the
wall tell it all.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yeah. I rode for my for factory rides. My first
ride was c W. Then I rode for Then I
rode for Torker, and then I rode for Hutch for
a long time, and then I finished my career with
a free agent.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Oh yeah, you know, I've seen that jersey back there,
and I never knew you wrote for Freed and.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
I was working. I was working for Vision Streetwear at
the time, and they onto the team and Missy Vaughan said, hey,
you're not the races anyway, you might as well race
and sit with the kids and tell stories. And so
I did. I raced for a race for a year
for free agent.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
As a as a pro or did you yep, pro pro?

Speaker 4 (43:14):
Okay, no, I read, I read classed. I reclassified about
a year ago. That's because that's when I started racing again.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Yeah, oh you're racing now.

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Oh yeah. Sometimes they need somebody to make a class
and I'll jump on in there.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Cruiser cruiser or twenty inch or both.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Cruiser cruiser.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
And have you raised any big races yet? No, not
not Frog Dawn, not your own race or nothing. I
know you can't raise your own race. I saw you
your business.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I rode one lap at frog Town with my evil
cadieval uniform right here yep, with smoke bombs coming off
the back of it. Yep. That's it. No, uh No,
I've not raised any big races. No desire, no desire
race a big race. I love racing at the local level,
and I love going to the other local tracks and racing.

(44:05):
Uh but when I go to local tracks, it's really
to to to learn how they do it. I sit
with a track operator, I ask questions and just try
to learn how to you know, what I can do
to make my own operation better.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Okay, And where do you see the future? Dirty fist?
Like I mean I was. I went to it last
year and I understand it was much bigger than the
year before, and.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
I was running.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
It was amazing.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
Yeah, it was about double from the year before. We
went from about a thousand people to over two thousand,
and we're expecting over three thousand this year. So where
where do I see it going? Well, it's going to
continue to grow because we're going to keep adding to it.
Uh you know, if it's going to be this year,
we've added you know, a lot more food vendors, a
food court. We're we're attempting to do a split screen

(44:50):
live stream. We're adding live music, you know. We we uh,
we just keep building and adding to it to the
experience of anyone that comes. It's all we one. And
let me just cut to the chase. It's my party
and everyone's invited. That's all. It is awesome.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
And let's talk about something that you mentioned you were
gonna do it at frog Town, but I didn't see
it happen. And if it did happen, I'm shot because
it's hot as hell. You told me. Are the petans
at Frogtown? Did y'all put the suits on it?

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Hell? It was one hundred and nine degrees we would
have died. Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
And I never saw waiting for it.

Speaker 4 (45:27):
I watched for it, oh man. And we brought all it.
We listen, we brought fencing, we bought, we brought uh.
I think it was like twelve different animal costumes. But
one hundred and nine, man, it was. It was no
way we could do it.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I was. I was. I was there with Gregor Marra
working and I was like, dude, I really was waiting
for that to happen. By the way I used to be.
I used to wear it outfit around, dance around like
Tom Thumbs and stuff. I was a mascot for Free
to Lay. It's hot as hell and like this guys. Literally,
these guys going to pass out in a minute.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
So there's no way damn near passed out with no
clothes on. I had. Uh. We were there to you know,
to record spots for our own podcast, and right in
the right before we started the first one, my laptop melted.
It actually it actually melted inside. It was one hundred

(46:23):
and nine and it was melted inside. So I ended
up having to replace my laptop.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Now, what's the reason for changing your the month you're
doing your Dirty Festand is your a reason for that
because it's a.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Week, Well, you were there last week. You know. We
held it in April the first year and we had
great weather the whole time. The second year, it comes
Saturday night party time and we have everything set up,
We've got we've got you know, the horror pit bikes
ready to have races on the custom track and everything,
and it just started raining. So I said, well, will

(46:55):
never do that again because the biggest thing, the biggest
highlight of the event is the Saturday night party. Wow,
So we uh, we changed it. We picked June first, June,
first weekend in June because we looked at I looked
at the weather and I did a twelve year analysis
and the average high was eighty and I said, we

(47:18):
can get away with eighty and in the in the
twelve years, zero chance of rain. So I said, that's perfect.
We'll just go to We'll go to June. We'll go
to June and kids will be out of school and
people can can can start their vacations and yeah, we
think it's a good time. We'll see, we'll see, but
we believe it'll be perfect.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, June and Texas, that's around June to tenth or so.
That's what starts hitting the upper nineties. And that's like,
it's this hell. They did that Texas Classic, I think
they called it, and I think it was July, and
I didn't go. It's like, you know what, it's for
a weekend off. I'm not gonna go out there and
burn up in the damn heat, dude, I'll be so miserable.

(47:59):
I didn't go to you. The reason when they had
had a racist Antonio like a vinage race and it
was just like, it's just too hot.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
It's just too hot, just too hot.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Now, now you're really gonna become the spokes folk this
year in October.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
You're damn straight. I am October eleventh. You know where
you'll find me.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Oh look, he's got the damn ding down.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Arguing.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Let me tell you. Let me tell you what I'd
like to do, Mike, before we get off here. I
would love Woody hits and lives nearby. Okay, And this
year I called wood because this year was last. Man.
I just I put that together with no time. Okay,
And I said, and Woody couldn't make I said, wood he,
I'm giving you a year's notice, buddy, there's twelve months,

(48:46):
I said, Mike. Miranda says he's coming. Are you coming? Well,
let me check. I'll try to make I said, okay.
Hard Then I started thinking like, wow, if Steve Ullman
was to come back again, you're there, wood is there.
We got a hutch fats going on.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
I'm like, you know, Woody and I were teammates long
before Hutch what teams Woody and I. Woody and I
were teammates on BS bikes on a bike shop team.
When wood when we are Brian Screwers bike shop, when Woody,
When Woody was one of the fastest racers in Orange County. Man,

(49:24):
he was fast, and people don't people don't know Woody
hits In is a hell of a rider, a hell
of a racer. And you know he can jump because
you saw the pictures in the magazine Jumping, but a
hell of a racer.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Did not know that? Yeah, you and already run the
same team for the screwer Brian Skiwer. Yeah, and he
had a bike shop that the story's saying.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Yeah, Brian had a bike shop called BS Bikes.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
No kidding, I know. I didn't neurog it. Woody rode
for Diamondback and into the day I saw some footage
of human What was the other guy Domingas or.

Speaker 4 (50:00):
Yeah, Mike Domingaz, Mike Mings, Yeah, yeah, and wood he
also wrote for c W.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I didn't know that one.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, Wow, that's crazy. Well, but then your teammates.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Well, I tell you what, you guys need to listen
to the Dirty Nubs podcast a little bit more often. Yeah,
what was it? What he's been a guest?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
I heard part of Woodies, but I turned on it
at work and I get up and walk away. I
come back and stuff, and I caught part of the
Woody stuff. But I didn't. I didn't, I said, I
don't know. I didn't know you was that big of
a racer, that's for sure.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
Yeah, Listen, the Dirty Nubs podcast isn't just about racers.
I mean, we've had Bill Allen on there, We've had
Eddie Fiola on there. Now Woody insign. You know, we're
we kind of mix it up a little bit between
all of it because we find out that that's the
one common denominator amongst like the three of us. Hey,
we're all part of the BMX family. If you throw

(50:54):
a leg over a BMX bike, I don't care if
you race or jump curbs or whatever. You're part of
the BMX family. You're never alone. You're never alone.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
That's so amazing.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
You're my brother and my sister just like you too.
You're my brothers.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
So I don't know if you saw it, Mike, but
I did take your guy. You saw her. I put
put you with our with our Spoke book guys, Yeah,
I saw yeah. So just you know, know, Rick, we
have they're all they'll have names. It's old Spoke in
the middle, and then you have Tony table Talk, you
got Chris Sindo, and then Bob Horror did all these

(51:34):
Bob sent me the mics and so we have Hollywood
Mike hanging out with these guys, and I've got some Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
I also saw the one that said I was asked
me if I was coming, and then you have my
cartoon of me going yeah, I'll be there, yeah, or
something like that. Hell yeah, Well, now you know it's
hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
You're definitely gonna be there.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Robertson's definitely gonna be there.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Rob Lanksy to let you know that he's picking you up.
You got a place to stay, He's gonna stay from
Texas Hospitality.

Speaker 4 (52:09):
You're golden man, nothing nothing better. Can't wait to see
you guys in person.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Yeah man, yeah, I just you know, we we we
talked about a few minutes ago. We talked a few
times about Dirty Knobs, and I will say I listened
to the Eddy episode just recently. As a matter of fact,
most recent, right was that the last month or so?

Speaker 4 (52:36):
I think, Yeah, well, yeah, it was, uh it was
see if that was it was three weeks ago. Okay,
we we Our attempt is always to do every other week,
every other Sunday we drop an episode. But unfortunately we
lost our number one fan. Uh. Eric Carter's mom passed away,
so we uh we were unable to record unfortunately. And

(53:00):
like I said, she's been our number one fan since
we started. And what I mean by number one fan
is when it comes out on Sunday, two hours and
two minutes later, she calls me and tears into me
about why do you let Eric chew on screen? And
why don't you tell him to get a haircut? How
come he does this? I mean, I was like, he's
a grown ass man. Where are you calling and yelling

(53:21):
at me? Called Gody? I love? Well, we will certainly
will miss her so much.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
Oh man, Oh yeah, that's I'm sorry to hear that.
I just wanted to say that, you know, listening to
Eddie's Eddie's episode and hearing you guys wrap back and forth,
you know, for me being a Rat fan, it's always
about the nostalgia, right, It brings back so many good memories.
And to hear you guys getting together and rapping about

(53:52):
this story and that story, and just to hear the
emotion in your voice is really we can all relate
to that. So for us older guys, seeing you guys
interact the way you do and you know, telling us
those stories, it's it's like Christmas, right, So I absolutely
love that. I love it.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Well. Our goal is for you to feel like you
just rolled into the garage with us as we're all
working on our bikes.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
That's absolutely the aesthetic. Man, you guys nailed it.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Yeah. Well, good to hear. Thank you for that feedback.
And you know what, that makes you an official dirty knob.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
A question real fast?

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Uh oh?

Speaker 2 (54:36):
From being a uh, this is a this is a
bike racing question.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Once you're done with rad was at the movie theaters?
How much flat did you take from riders about the
track and the movie itself? How much did you hear
like from your fellow rider erasers?

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Uh? None, I never took it. I never heard any
and I think because uh, I think because of my personality,
I didn't get any guf from anybody except for one guy.
I did. One guy kind of gave me a hard
time about it. But you know, in the end, I'm
sure it was because of envy. Because I had a

(55:18):
great time and it had a positive impact on me.
But more importantly, it had a positive impact on so
many people, and like this conversation right here, yep, hey
me too, me too.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Look, it's amazing how many people and I didn't know this.
I was a racer, like one of these top pros
having trouble getting up those jumps and this, you know,
seeing hill track in twenty eighteen in person, I realized,
Oh my god, they're going up a heel and they're
bunny hopping over a little missing gap there on the
cliffhanger going up to it. And then you understood, like
that's why these guys are having trouble, because this is

(55:56):
a messed up track. But also with Bill Allen, I
was like, holy crap, I'm at not. I mean probably
over the years thousand or more, I got into BMX
because I rad I heard it over, yeah, over and over.
There's probably even nothing more out and probably nothing else
out there that had such an influence on the public
and get them on the bicycles for BMX.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
Absolutely. You know, when I worked at Woodward Camp, we'd
have the campers come in, the kids that came in,
and they would go, oh, rad yeah, if I get
in trouble, my mom puts me on rad restriction and
won't let me watch it. So it's it's hilarious. It
is hilarious, awesome, awesome, man.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Anything else you want to promote a push? Or how
do we find you?

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Yeah? You know, I would say that you can find
me at Dirty Knobs podcast. Uh. That's available on YouTube,
Spotify and Apple Uh. And I would tell you that
make sure you go to www dot dirtyfest dot com
to find out the info on the event and buy merch.
But more importantly, make sure you mark off your calendar

(56:59):
June sixth seventh, the name for the greatest vintage event
of your lifetime. And finally, the most important thing I
can tell you is, hey, fellas, we all go through
ups and downs in life. And if you ever you're
ever in a down, remember you're part of a BMX
family and we love you and you can always call
on old Hollywood to cheer you up.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
You might be getting a call from me soon.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
All right here he is. We appreciate you. Thank you
so much for joining us, guys. I was in right there, Hollywood,
Mike Miranda, And what do you think, Rick, We've been
trying to get them for a long time.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
I can't believe that just happened. I'll be honest, I'm
sad to see him go. I didn't want that conversation
to end. You know, some of these episodes just go
on forever and we don't realize, you know, how long
we've been talking. And I could have easily gone to
midnight without realizing what time it was. I just found
so much value and his insight because of his personality,

(57:55):
Like he brought the personality to the culture of the film,
there's no question. And yeah, mostly his mustache.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Is he really should be a BMX Santa Claus because
he's the most joyful, outgoing He's a trip ude. I
would like to hang out on the party man. He
I mean listen. So my BMX team, you know, by
the way Sunbury was created, the name Sunbury was created
watching rad think I've said that before. That's a true story.
But my whole BMX team was about having fun data
and we were the team that was pulling up the

(58:24):
limousines because they're like old style limousines, like you know,
because the eighties look and uh, you know, weold wear
a cost change and just it was all about having fun.
Min Miranda seems like the life of the part. And
I'm sure he is a life of the party for sure.
And I mean, I mean he just exuges joyfulness, you know.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
And it's funny we talked earlier about him being you know,
playing himself, but becoming the character of you know, the
fall guy in the movie.

Speaker 4 (58:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (58:51):
When we had our you know, when I was a kid,
you know, we watched we watched Brad and we went
out to the woods and we built our own track.
And whenever anybody would wipe out, like catastrophically, we always say, oh,
he just got Miranda was like that was our catchphrase.

Speaker 4 (59:05):
You know.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Yeah, you know, I just can't believe if I I
don't have any idea where those guys are today, but
I can guarantee you that none of them would believe
I just talked to Mike Miranda.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
You know what's amazing about Mike is he's now a
track operator or he's in the industry. He's got apparently
as a wife, so he's got kids, he's got a family.
How's it Tom for all this? You know, because he
does this podcast. I know what it takes on events.
It's a three day event. It's a big one too, man.
So there's a lot of living parts there, so uh,

(59:38):
and he seems really excited about it, So that's really cool.
He's giving back.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Well, yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
You know.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
You take a personality that big and combine it with
a sheer passion for something, and it's going to shine.
It's going to overshadow everything you do. I mean, that's
that's who he is, right. I think that's incredibly powerful.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
He knows it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Out of the love for it, you know, getting people
back on bikes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
You can tell he's passionate about it. He's into it,
and he's just joyful. Yeah. I don't know if he
caught it, but he had a rad tattoo on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
His Yeah, yeah, I saw that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
So he wasn't just in the movie. He really appreciated
being part of it, you know, as part of culture.
So that's really cool. It's it's nice to see a
guy that you know, you know, had an impact on
the sport and he's just so approachable and nice as
can be. That's cool. And they got a great podcast, man,
So listen, man, I guess we'll wrap up. Man, what's next.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, we got to keep plugging. We got some more
guests that we got to get on this show. Uh yeah,
I don't know what the next step is, but we'll
get there. I know it. As you know, especially with
you know, the rising popularity of Dirty Fest and Dirty
Knobs and and you know spoke folk as well. I mean,
these events are going to be popping up more and
more I hope anyway, but I'm pretty sure they will.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
And uh they're getting it's getting bigger and bigger and.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Bigger, bigger, it's growing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
I can't imagine Mike even five years ago, would have
thought he'd be getting a phone call to to fly
into Texas and be part of a Rad Watch party
or where they did last week.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Yeah, that's that's a great time to be part of
the rad family. I say, I can say that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Yeah, awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
All right, man, we'll to mix some Let's walk the sucker.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
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