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Hey guys, it's every and wewaited three years to have sex andtal marriage.
Now that we're married, we're offeringour perspective on what it takes to
discover and sustain a relationship worth waitingfor. Welcome to the Worthwait podcast Zone,
The Blessings Coming Night, Zoneless ComingNight. Hey guys. On this
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episode of Worthy Wait, we're talkingabout supporting your life partner through a life
transition. Yeah, that's a majorthing. Yeah, and that's all that
we dealt with recently because I hada new job opportunity which was a complete
change from uh, what my normalsituation was. For those who don't know,
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Brian, I started a business togetherprobably like five or six months into
dating, and we did that fulltime for the past like six or seven
years. And uh with I guessis a great thing. All the success
that I've had in production and podcastingopened up and allowed me to have an
opportunity to run the podcast network andbe the head of podcasting at Urban One,
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which is the parent company for TVone Radio one, a lot of
digital brands Matte Noir, Hello,Beautiful, Hip Hop Wire. But that
was truly a transition for us.I know that was a major transition.
That was just one of the manytransitions that we've had in our relationship.
But I think that a lot ofpeople deal with transitions and different things that
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their partner goes through that really alterstheir life in a major way. Whether
that's a new job or new opportunity, which are kind of like positive things,
but also it could be a lossof a job, or it could
be a loss of a family member, or it could be a lot of
different things that people have. Itcould be a health situation that somebody's going
through. And I know this isa question that somebody asked me. It's
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like, how do you support yourpartner through those transitions? And I think
I can go first, cause I'vesaid many times on this podcast there are
two sides to every part of therelationship. Even in asking how do you
support somebody, there's always somebody onthe other side who needs to be supported.
So when it came to me thinkingabout the job thing, or when
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it came to the new job thing, one thing that I really liked that
Breed did and I'm happy that shedid it for me because I did it
for her. When she decided toclose her studio in Cleveland, which is
a major life decision because that waslike your primary source of income at the
time. Is that when it wassomething that the person was contemplating. Although
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you don't leave them hanging and yoube a listening ear, you still don't
tell them what to do because youdon't ever want them resenting you if they
felt something different, but they wentwith what you what they went with what
you told them to do, becauseif it doesn't work out, a lot
of times they'll just be like Idid didn't even want to do this,
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but you were so adamant, andI feel like you forced me to do
this, and now I'm unhappy inthis situation. So I feel like that's
a major thing when going through likecertain life decisions that you as an individual
are making but also affect your partneris it's always works out. Your partner
gives you, like the space tomake that decision. And what Dre Soumbaut
is when he was deciding whether ornot he should take it, Yeah,
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take that position. He was doinga full time podcasting at that point,
had his own network, was workingand producing with a few different shows,
and so it was a lot oflike pros and cons, right it's like,
on one hand, you're giving upfreedom, so we thought, or
so I guess it would seem.And on the other hand, it's like
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you're getting security and benefits and allthese things. And we were like,
you know, trying to figure itout. And although when he brought it
to me, because it was areally cool opportunity, that came back twice,
right, And when it came backaround the second time, I was
in Mexico with my aunt and Iwas like, oh God, I really
want him to take this, Likeit sounds like a great opportunity. I
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was like I could see him killingit. I just see it like even
adding to his personal brand and justyou know, opening new doors and opportunities.
Like I just thought it made completesense. And I was like healthcare,
yes, please sign me up.But I knew I couldn't tell him
to take it. So it wasvery much like my response to him was
like, Babe, I support youeither way. I think these are the
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pros and the cons, but likewhatever you whatever decision you make, I
support you one hundred percent. Andthen hung up the phone. I was
like, fuck, hope he takesit. So yeah, that definitely was
a good point because that whole likefeeling of resenting someone because you feel you
made a choice specifically for them andwhat they wanted. If it doesn't work
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out how you planned, then it'slike you know, the finger pointing.
And I would say from you know, he's thinking of the transition of like
whether or not or the decision ofwhether or not he was going to take
the position, And for me,what I had to figure out was like
how to support him through the transitionlike once he actually accepted the job,
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because although I can look at itand be like this is an amazing opportunity,
he was grieving and losing a senseor a part of him that he
almost had to give up to takethe position, right Yeah. And so
what I, you know, madesure to do is like one just always
asking like like you know, how'syour day, or like are you liking
it? Like what's going on?Like just being genuinely like interested in like
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what is happening in that realm,and then also just asking if there's anything
that like he needs from me.And then one thing that we made sure
to kind of talk about right offthe rip was like you're not leaving your
podcast network, so it's like youknow, how do we make it make
sense to where maybe it just meanswe hire more people and they take some
work off of your workloads so thatyou can feel like you're still doing both
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things without having to sacrifice the timeand the energy that it actually takes to
commit to both things. And Ithink the biggest key to remember is when
someone's going through a transition, don'tassume that you think you know what supporting
them looks like. Ask literally sayhey, what do you need for me
during this time? What can Ido? What would be helpful for you?
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And not just that one time,but like constantly check in. I
think a lot of times people haveone conversation and they just take that conversation
and they run with it instead ofchecking in on a daily and weekly basis.
And that's where somebody can feel like, you know, a lack of
support because it's like Yo, Isaid I didn't need nothing, but that
was Sunday. You know, no, I agree with you. I think
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that the main word that what you'retalking about, in the main word that
you should take into consideration when you'resupporting a partner through a life transition is
attentiveness. It's like making sure thatyou're paying attention to them, and although
at times they may seem fine,it's like Brie said, always checking in,
like how are you doing? Howhow's the transition going? Because even
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Bria talked about with me it waskind of like grieving a you know,
past life almost in what I wasdoing, and I truly was giving something
up, something of value, somethingthat you know, was meant a lot
to me, something I helped build. I really you know, gave that
up. But you have to understandthat people grieve differently. So some people
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may show it immediately, some peopleit may hit them a little later.
Some people you may not hear itin how they talk, but in how
they act they might show it.But always checking in and being attentive is
attentive is so important, And thenyou can start to dial back if the
person's like, oh, you know, i'm good, I'm good. But
I've seen situations to where people withsomebody was around more and was a more
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you know, attentive to them andthe things that they needed, and then
they would have been able to saylike, oh, I'm good or you
don't need to do that, that'sfine, versus assuming, oh I see
them, they look fine, andnot you know, helping them at all
or paying them any attention thinking thatthey're good. And it's like, I
think that you have to understand whatI'm good means as well. For some
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people, it's just like I don'tneed a gift, I don't even need
words, but you just kind ofbeing here is enough. Like I don't
need anything like physically from you,but just spending time with me, just
having normal conversation. I know thatthat's a big thing when it comes to
people losing people like I know whenmy grandmother passed, I didn't post anything
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on my social media because I wasn'ttrying to get all the oh my gosh,
I'm so sorry, sorry for yourloss, And I understand people have
a great heart with that, butI just didn't want all of that.
One thing you could have did tohelp me is just have a normal conversation,
give me a sense of normalcy,Like make me laugh, let's joke,
let's have fun, let's go outand do something to help take my
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mind. I don't need you todo anything that's outside of the normal.
I just need you to be normal. But a lot of times when people
are grieving, people stop being normaland they become an extra super sensitive and
kind of weird that can make ituncomfortable for the person if they're grieving something.
So it's important to take that intoconsideration. But I think when you
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are making a new life decision,if you're the person trying to make,
the decision is really taken to accountyour partner too, and like what you
ultimately want to accomplish or what youguys altimately want to accomplish together. I
know when I took that job,it was more than just my own ambitions.
It was like, what does thislook like for both brit and I?
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How does this set us up inthe things that we ultimately want to
do? Because she's my wife,I have to factor in every single thing,
including her and our future kids,our future family of you know what
this decision means for us. Yeah, And one thing I did want to
mention is I and me Andre havedealt with this because he is a very
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like a very strong and like dependable, reliable person or man, And at
the beginning of our relationship and evenlike halfway through, I would always have
to remind him, like, hey, let it's okay to need me sometimes,
like he would get sick and I'mlike, you're literally a walking germ,
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and like you're deciding to like leaveand go get your self medicine and
soup and ginger rail instead of justasking me or like when I'm like can
I get you anything, He'll belike no, I'm fine, And then
an hour later he's like at CBSand I'm like, what are you doing?
Like it's okay to say yes Ineed this or I you know,
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could use this, and now whenhe gets sick, he'll let me take
care of him. But it waslike bruh, like pulling teeth. And
I think sometimes that they feel theyhave to be you know, super strong
and like not feeling like they needtheir woman. And as the woman,
it is our responsibility to make surethat we're like you know, trying to
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pull back those layers and just makingsure that if there are ways that we
can serve them support them through allthings, that you know you can do
that, because it's also frustrating froma woman's perspective if you know you're like
me and you could be very needy. It's like I need for you all
the time. I ask for youto do things for me all the time,
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and to receive these things and notfeel like I can openly give those
things because you would prefer to justdo it yourself or say like no,
I'm fine. Then it feels what'smy word, not fair? It feels
like like it's not fair. Soif you're in a relationship where you are
a less needy individual, I wouldchallenge you to really ask yourself, like
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what things could I tell my partnerthat would make me feel more supported just
in everyday life? And I guaranteeyou when you tell your person like,
hey, I've been thinking about itand like I would really like if you
could do this or this is away that you could help support me.
And it's a sense of pride thatyour partner will take on and they should
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be excited to want to do thosethings and to support you. But if
you don't open your mouth and communicatewhat's needed, whether it's a life transition
or just everyday life, then youknow, a closed mouth doesn't get fed.
So I think that's important as well. I agree, And lastly,
I think just acknowledging what the personfeels and what the person has done or
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is doing is so important when itcomes to those transitions. So, for
instance, like me taking the jobwas one thing and understanding that, okay,
like Dre's doing this not just forhis own personal ambitions, but this
is really going to help us out, like as a family. Like I
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said, we've been business owners fora long time. Insurance is a lot
different when you own your own businessversus going through a company. Like that's
a major thing when it came tous wanting to look for a house.
Getting qualified, as you know abusiness owner is a lot different than doing
it when you have a W twoand a paycheck coming every two weeks,
Like these are things that you know, were decisions that I made for us
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and not just for my own ambitionsfrom a career standpoint, And it's important
that Bree acknowledged those things and waslike, I see you, and I
see what you're doing for us.And the same thing happened with Brie.
One of the hardest things for herto do, and the biggest I think
is probably one of the largest andlongest transitions in our relationship is her unmarrying
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herself from what she thought her businesswould ultimately be, which was shameless from
when she was like eighteen to whereit is now with all about it like
that took time to go through thattransition of like this is what I'm doing.
Okay, this is what I'm doing. This is what I'm doing.
And she still struggles with it fromtime to time, but not nearly as
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much. But I think it wasimportant for me to acknowledge that, like
thank you for making this transition,because you ultimately did it unselfishly, because
the selfish thing would have been keepdoing shameless. But what we have built
with all about it and what Brihas done with all about it, it
like set us up, like weset ourselves up financially to be in a
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much better position than we would havebeen if you would have stayed doing shameless
at that moment when we started allabout it. But that's a sacrifice,
and it's important for me to acknowledge, like how you feel in that moment
and acknowledge the sacrifice that you madeto let you know, like thank you
for that. I see that youmade the sacrifice. And on the other
side, like whether it's a deafand the family or it's a health thing,
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like acknowledging like I see, Iunderstand how you feel, I understand
why you feel this way, LikeI acknowledge that this is a tough time
for you. I'm not going toact like this isn't tough or this isn't
significant. You losing this person inyour life and this is a major transition
that you now have to go throughand grieving and all that stuff. So
I think acknowledgment is a key andin getting through those life transitions together.
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