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December 15, 2023 48 mins
In Episode 12 of the "Relentless Podcast with Kyle Becker," we dive deep into the controversial dynamics of America's higher education system. Kyle Becker tackles the increasing politicization of universities and their drift from educational excellence to partisan activism. The episode features incisive commentary on how identity politics and neo-Marxist ideologies are reshaping academic priorities and marginalizing intellectual diversity.

We also explore the broader implications of these educational trends on American society and the political landscape, discussing the role of big tech and corporate media in shaping public discourse. The episode closes with an inspiring interview with Chris Widener, who introduces the Red Referral Network, a grassroots movement aimed at supporting conservative values and businesses. "Relentless with Kyle Becker” is more than just a podcast; it's a call to action for those concerned about the future of free speech, intellectual diversity, and the true purpose of education in America. Join us in this relentless quest for truth and clarity in a world of increasing complexity and bias.

Segment 1: "America’s Universities Are Woke And Broke" (00:12)

This segment explores the increasing politicization of American universities, highlighting the lack of intellectual and political diversity and its impact on educational quality.

Segment 2: "Free Speech Under Assault" (12:24)

A critical examination of the challenges to free speech within academia, focusing on the rise of safe spaces, trigger warnings, and speech codes.

Segment 3: "The Importance Of Election Security" (22:11)

This segment addresses the critical issue of election security, focusing on the situation in Arizona where tens of thousands of 'federal only voters' are registered without proof of U.S. citizenship.

Segment 4: "Empowering Conservatives" (28:35)

Kyle interviews Chris Widener about the launch of the Red Referral Network, which focuses on mobilizing community support for conservative businesses and values.

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Welcome to Relentless with Kyle Becker, where we're relentlessly pursuing the truth about America's biggest stories.
Welcome back to the Relentless podcast. I'm your host Kyle Becker.
America's universities are woke and broke and it's gotten so bad that even CNN is calling them out for it.
The ever-growing bureaucracy devoted to diversity, equity and inclusion naturally recommends that more time and energy be spent on these issues.

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The most obvious lack of diversity at universities, political diversity, which clearly affects their ability to analyze many issues, is never addressed,
showing that these goals are not centrally related to achieving or sustaining or building excellence.
Out of this culture of diversity has grown the collection of ideas and practices that we have now all heard of, safe spaces,

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trigger warnings, microaggressions. As the authors Jonathan Hade and Greg Lukyanov have discussed, many of these colleges have instituted speech codes
that make it a violation of university rules to say things that some groups might find offensive.
University's advice students not to speak, act, even dress in ways that might cause offense to some minority groups.

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With this culture of virtue signaling growing, the George Floyd protests erupted and many universities latched on and issued statements
effectively aligning their institutions with these protests.
By my memory, few took such steps even after 9/11 or during the Iraq war.
In this context, it is understandable that Jewish groups would wonder, why do safe spaces, microaggressions and hate speech not apply to us?

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If universities can take positions against free speech to make some groups feel safe, why not us?
Having caught all so many student groups for so long, university administrators found themselves squirming, unable to explain why certain groups,
Jews, Asians don't seem to count in these conversations.
Having gone so far down the ideological path, these universities and these presidents could not make the case clearly that at the center of a university is the free expression of ideas

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and that while harassment and intimidation would not be tolerated, offensive speech would and should be protected.
As CNN's Van Jones has eloquently said, the point of college is to keep you physically safe but intellectually unsafe to force you to confront ideas that you vehemently disagree with.

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What we saw in the House hearing this week was the inevitable result of decades of the politicization of universities.
America's top colleges are no longer seen as bastions of excellence but partisan outfits, which means they will keep getting buffeted by these political storms as they emerge.
They should abandon this long, misadventure into politics, retrain their gaze on their core strengths and rebuild their reputations as centers of research and learning.

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That's for Reed-Sakariya, globalist mouthpiece and CNN host, sharing some common sense perspective on the US university system.
Of course, last week, three of the nation's top universities faced intense backlash, including for the White House,
after their presidents were accused of evading questions during a congressional hearing about whether calls by students for the genocide of Jews would constitute harassment under the school's code of conduct.

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Well, as they put it, it depends on the context.
Well, the presidents of Harvard, the University of Pennsylvania, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology,
are now facing a lot of he and scrutiny about their comments and about why safe spaces are only for their preferred victim classes and not for Jewish students on campus.

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But this weekend, the once funny show, known as SNL, or "Settering Night Live," ran a ridiculous skit that targeted Republican, at least the phonic, during the congressional exchange.
Instead of the clueless Harvard University president Claudine Gray, who said that it depends on the context.
And the president of Harvard, Dr. Claudine Gay.

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Thank you.
Dr. Gay, would you like to do a quick joke about your name to get it out of the way?
I would. Dr. Gay sounds like a Molly Dealer on Fire Island.
[LAUGHTER]
Thank you.
Now, I'll turn it over to mega superstar Elise Staphonic from New York, who's been pacing the hallways listening to "Lose Yourself" by M&M.

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Mr. Staphonic.
Thank you, chairwoman.
Now, I'm going to start screaming questions at these women, like I'm Billy Eichner.
[LAUGHTER]
Hey, take some autism! Yeah, you are, nay!
I'm sorry, what?
Yes, or no?
I was calling for the genocide of twos against the Code of Conduct for Harvard.
Well, it depends on the context.

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[GASPS]
What?
Now, let me explain how this works.
SNL is not a comedy show.
It is a left-wing front group.
They long ago have given up any standards about comedy and what is actually funny and exchange them for a political agenda
that is so transparent that you could see right through it.
So then when they load their shows up with these unfunny, untalented, so-called comedians who sit there and just run trashy,

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ridiculous absurd segments about Republicans, instead of letting the American people see how absurd
woke politics actually are, you know that it's long ago abandoned any kind of criteria about humor and about comedy.
But more importantly, the university system in this country has become a front group for radical activists.

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They have loaded up our curriculum with absolute nonsense, like feminist studies and all sorts of identity politics
that go with the DEI agenda.
So the diversity, equity, and inclusion agenda of these universities is overriding their academic standards.
Now, America was once the envy of the world in terms of its academics.

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People from all over the globe came to learn about science and technology and mathematics.
But now these things have been shoved to the side in an effort to simply
bloat our universities with needless woke studies that are just absolutely expendable and are not of any use to students in our marketplace.

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So, while it's important that CNN is now showing the country how broke our university system is,
we are now experiencing a crisis that has been decades in the making.
They have pushed through this agenda in this ideological indoctrination program for absolutely decades,

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since the 1970s, at the very least.
But by now, the ideological war has already been won.
We could shuffle around the university presidents at Harvard, at MIT, at Princeton, at Penn State University.
But it's just going to be like a hydra.
You cut off one head and another grows in its place.

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The real heart of the problem is the neo-Marxist agenda that has overridden everything.
Now, there are certain victim groups that have gotten favor in the victim hierarchy
that has been implemented in this country.
And Jews are not a not-list anymore.
They are considered to be white oppressors if you know about the oppressed and oppressor narrative

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that is being espoused by these academic curricula.
And the Jews, much like the Asian Americans, have found out that once they become affluent,
once they attained the American dream, once they become middle class or upper middle class,
in Asian Americans by grouping, do, out-earn white Americans in this country, then they're expendable.

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They're no longer a protected victim group.
That's because the target is not actually identity politics.
It's the capitalist system.
They are really targeting the middle class and upper middle class because they are proxy
targets for capitalism.
They want to crush the middle class.

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You see BlackRock buying up single family homes all around the country.
And I think over 40, between 40 and 44% of all the single family homes purchased last year were
by equity funds like BlackRock.
And what that's doing, it's making the middle class lifestyle even more unattainable.

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If you look at rent versus housing costs now, it's exploded.
This all fits together.
And in terms of the Neomarks' spring work, it's called a base, which is the economics I was just
talking about, and superstructure, which is the ideological indoctrination that you see at the
universities, which spreads, metastasizes like a cancer throughout every occupation.

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And now you're seeing a real collapse of confidence in these universities.
More Americans are saying it's no longer necessary to go to college.
People who are getting burdened with student debt no longer see the bank for buck playing out of it.
So in terms of ideological indoctrination, they have been extremely successful.

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In terms of academic standards and creating and training students and workers who are
productive in our economy, they're an absolute failure.
So reform is not going to be just in terms of intellectual freedom and free speech,
or getting rid of a few presidents who have agendas that we don't agree with.

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It's really about overhauling this nefarious and corrupting ideology that's really taking hold
among our academics.
And that means really offering them a more persuasive worldview than the toxic one that they have
latched onto because they believe that they're justified in this very destructive agenda.

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They think that it's necessary in order to usher in a better world.
That's because they believe so much that everything is in crisis around them,
whether it's the climate crisis or pandemic crisis.
And they see themselves as crusaders and they see colleges as a means to do something about it
as a vehicle for their radical activism.
They don't feel included in the capitalist system because they don't feel like they need to contribute

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productive work.
They don't want to exchange actual value that consumers will pay for in a marketplace.
They love these little coistered echo chambers and they recruit others who think like them
in order to create almost a cultish environment.
And that's really a deeper-seated problem than just what we're seeing with the antisemitism

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on campus.
It's really the socialist indoctrination that is hidden by this political jargon, this woke
ideology.
It's much deeper rooted than what we saw out of these university presidents last week.
So that's just something that's just going to take a lot of time and a lot of effort to expose.

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But it's a good start to shine the light on these university presidents.
We need to do more of it, but not just about antisemitism, about all of their
nefarious ideologies that are creating a toxic atmosphere where nobody in their right mind would
want to spend any amount of time with these Marxist professors.
They're corrupting influence and it's really damaging the country, not just academia, but the US government.

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Now, America was once a shining beacon of liberty around the world, but one of the pillars of this,
once great republic, free speech is under full assault.
One of the last remaining bashings of relatively free speech on the internet,
the social media platform X, has come under relentless fire from corporate media and the US government,

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as ugly truth after ugly truth continues to get exposed.
On everything from J6 to woke identity politics to big text censorship complex,
they're getting much needed sunlight due to the work of independent journalists.
Elon Musk was recently in a spaces on X where he made it clear that the billionaire

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text CEO is dead serious about standing up for free speech.
If those agencies, though, the FBI, the DHS, etc., if they reach out to X,
I believe they called defensive briefings in 2020, regarding which eventually culminated in
the censorship of Hunter Biden. If they started reaching out again, would that be something that
you or the team, and I can understand if you don't want to answer now, but you would consider

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making public. We will be as transparent as possible with, you know,
and frankly, if I think I got an agency is breaking the law in their demands on the platform,
I would be prepared to go to prison personally if I think they are the other ones,

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breaking the law. Much like Donald Trump exposed the nasty side of the deep state that has
affected the US government and is subverting the will of the people, Musk is exposing big tech
and corporate media as nothing more than a radical cabal of globalists who are working at cross
purposes to the good of the American people. It has become obvious that the Republican party has

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become feckless defending Americans constitutional rights. They may scream and yell about some
university president attacking free speech in intellectual freedom, but there are few taking
principled stands to push back in a bold enough way that will move the needle by challenging failed
left wing orthodoxy. But in Argentina, new president Javier Millay, who has recently elected

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in a runoff election that featured millions of all paper ballots cast and counted on one election day,
taking a chainsaw approach to the bloated Argentinian bureaucracy.
Ministry of Tourism and Sports out, Ministry of Culture out, Ministry of the Environment and
Sustainable Development out, Ministry of Women, Gender and Diversity out, Ministry of Public Works out,

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even if you resist. Ministry of Science, Technology and Innovation out, Ministry of Labor,
Employment and Social Security out, Ministry of Education, Indochination out, Ministry of Transportation
out, Ministry of Health out, Ministry of Social Development out, the theory of politics is over.

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Long live freedom, dammit. That is one way to tackle inflation, which had exploded under the former
socialist regime. That is because the actual economy is what produces value, and not the fake economy
created by bureaucratic parasites, who exploit their positions of power to push useless and failed
ideas on the public with no accountability. Contrast this to the already struggling tenure of new speaker

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Mike Johnson. Where are the 40,000 plus hours of J6 tapes released without blurring of anybody's
faces? We only have about 250 hours released so far. What about a responsible budget? Why not use
the power of the purse in order to rein in the out of control spending and the deficits that have

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exploded under the Biden administration? What about defunding weaponized agency, such as the FBI,
the Department of Homeland Security, or perhaps even the Pentagon, maybe slashing their budget and
making them account for the trillions that they've lost over the last 20 years would be a great start.

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What about actually impeaching someone, God forbid? It seemed like the DHS Secretary Alejandro
of Mayorkas was as layup as far as politics goes. They couldn't even do that. Instead, we get a
resignation from former phony speaker, Kevin McCarthy, who is passionately stomping off into the sunset,
probably to get a CNN contributor gig. We also have the expulsion of George Santos and the

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retirement of Congressman Bill Johnson. After all this time in office, what have the Republicans
actually done? Well, you can hear the crickets in the background if you listen closely enough.
The contrast with the first days of the Javier Malay presidency is a stark one. Let's hope that Donald

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Trump lives to election day or isn't imprisoned by his ruthless opponents with spineless Republicans
like these in charge. That's a real possibility. They would likely just whimper about it for a few days
and then carry on with business as usual, right into the abyss, as they squander the might and
wealth of one of the world's greatest free nations by failing to take a principled stand on anything.

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Now, Donald Trump's enemies are dead serious about either enditing him or imprisoning him
before the election and maybe even before the end of the primary season and the Republican
nomination. That's because today we saw Jack Smith appeal directly to the Supreme Court,

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skipping over the appellate court process in order to try to push the date of Donald Trump's trial
ahead. Now, the crux of the matter is whether Trump has executive immunity from his actions when
he was president of the United States. Now, any sane American would agree, yes, yes he does because

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he was the president, but they've created some novel theories about Donald Trump where he was acting
as a campaigner and therefore not a president at the time and they have concocted all sorts of novel
legal concoctions in order to justify bringing this cockamimi case in front of the Supreme Court.
Now, the interesting thing about all of this is that if you examine the case on the merits,

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Donald Trump is not responsible for the writing on J6 because all they can really bring as
evidence for his so-called incitement is that he objected to the election results. Now, I've done
the research and there have been dozens and dozens and dozens of cases, at least 150 cases of

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prominent Democrats objecting to election results. Everyone from Hillary Clinton to Barack Obama,
to John Kerry, to Nancy Pelosi, all the way down the line have objected to election results.
Democrats have formally objected at the Electoral College. So, there's nothing new about

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J6 except that a bunch of political extremists that were infiltrated by the FBI
tracked by the FBI using NSAID technology and who were predicted by the transition integrity
project among others to create a riot at J6. That is the only thing that is different here.

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So, they were well known ahead of time and it all really smells like a trap. And I think that
right now they've rushed through the J6 committee hearings. The Donald Trump does not appear to have
any substantial tie to this ridiculous supposed coup that was carried out by unarmed extremists

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with no way of overturning the election. And let's just note here, at the time, there were election
challenges going on, not the election. And Donald Trump would never have interfered with the election
challenges in the Congress. It was his only legitimate way of overturning the election result.
This chaos, all it did was put him in a bad light and open him to political attacks after January 6.

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And on January 7th, after the election was certified, he said he would step down on January 20th.
And he did. So, there's really nothing to debate here. He didn't deny the election results in terms
of refusing to turn over power. No, the election was certified after he made legal challenges in the
courts. And then he agreed after the election was certified that he would step down on January 20th.

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Period, case closed. There is nothing here to prosecute. So, Jack Smith, Judge Chutkin, the rest
of the political hacks behind this election and January 6th in Brogliell, should hopefully get
completely dismissed by the Supreme Court. Now, it's not within their purview to do that, but hopefully

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they drive a stake in what they're doing and this charade wants it for all. Whether it's just a
dirty abdominal Trump or to actually indict him or to imprison him rather is anybody's guess.
Because as we've seen from these deep state actors, they are really ruthless and they're

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willing to take down a sitting president and then a former president in order to subvert
the democratic process into commit election interference.
That brings us to another critical matter, the importance of election security.
A new investigative report by Justin News found that there are tens of thousands of so-called

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federal-only voters registered in the state of Arizona. These are people who are unable or unwilling
to show proof of US citizenship. And thus, they only vote in federal elections because Arizona's
ID laws prevent them from voting in the state elections. Now, you might recall the Department of Justice

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had actually sued Arizona to make sure that it doesn't enforce the ID standards on residents to
vote in federal elections, saying it's a violation of the 1993 National Voter Registration Act.
And the US Election Assistance Commission refused to allow the state to require drive-edge licenses
for voter registration. Thus, we learned that over 5,000 people voted in 2020 without showing any

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proof of US citizenship out of more than 36,000 federal-only applicants. And in the midterm elections,
over 3,000 such voters cast a ballot in the state of Arizona for the federal-only elections.
So as the illegal migrant crisis explodes in Arizona, this raises questions about the motivations
behind the Biden administration's willful refusal to enforce the border. We are seeing

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thousands of immigrants pour across the border in the Sunset State. Fox News has Bill Mulligan
reported on Friday that border patrols Tucson, Arizona, sector reports, a jaw-dropping 18,900
apprehensions of illegal immigrants in the last week alone. It's the highest weekly total ever
recorded for the sector, breaking the prior record of 17,500, which was set the prior week.

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Just wow, Mulligan said. And it's gotten so bad that even Democratic governor Katie Hobbs
is calling out Biden for his inaction. I'm here at the Lukeville Port of entry to assess the
situation on the ground firsthand and get customs and border patrol the resources they need to reopen
our port of entry. Security is a top priority and as long as I'm governor, I'll do whatever I can

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to end the chaos at the border. I'm not afraid to stand up to politicians on either side who aren't
doing what's in the best interest of Arizona. And I'm taking action. This week, I sent a letter to
President Biden demanding the resources and manpower to open this port of entry. And we announced
Operation Secure to step up state support for local law enforcement. But Arizona can't do this

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alone nor should we have to. We're asking the federal government to reimburse us for the cost
to Arizona's. For far too long, Arizona has borne the brand of federal inaction on our southern
border and I'm tired of it. Now is not the time for partisan politics. It's time for action.
Now is the time for action, not partisan politics, she said. Well, good luck with that.

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But the immigration crisis is perhaps the single best example of the uniparties agenda to see
America wrecked in order to carry out its authoritarian agenda of fundamentally transforming the United
States into a nation where representatives carry out the will of the people into one where the people
carry out the will of the ruling class. The border crisis is like many other crises, however,

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where the status caused damage to our society by simply refusing to obey their constitutional
oaths of office. They fail to defend our rights and they defy basic accountability at every turn.
So what is to be done about this crisis? Well, the first thing that we need to do is identify the
root of the problem and that is the actors who have infected our institutions and are running

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them into the ground on behalf of this ideological agenda. So identify who are the actors who are
actually doing this. Then you need to call them out to their faces and in person if possible and let
everyone in the community know that you know what their agenda is, you know what they're doing and

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that you're exposing them and just see how they react. Get it on video. See what you can do to make it
a viral moment. What you need to do is normalize the expression of your dissatisfaction with the
ruling class. Let everyone know that you are fed up with their agenda and what this needs to do is it

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needs to inspire other people around you who are maybe afraid to speak out or who are bashful
about making a fuss or expressing their discontent and to make it seem like there are so many people
in America who are dissatisfied with what is going on. So even if that is a public demonstration,

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whether it's a you know meeting of a school board or some other venue or even just doing a
quick video and posting it and sharing it with some of your friends or with podcasters like myself,
you know get attention to this. We need to have as many faces out there who are sympathetic
that the left cannot easily dehumanize expressing their dissatisfaction with the left's radical

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agenda and how destructive and how personally harmful it is to their lives. They need to tell anecdotes
about their children, their pets, anything that is sympathetic in order to put a human face on this
pushback. That is the thing that I think that the left fears the most and we saw it with the T-party

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movement the way they discredited it and they only have a few things that they go to
to call you racist, the fascist, the sexist, homophobic, whatever. That is the critical theory
playbook that they draw from. But we need to be inclusive in terms of getting more support, broader

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support from minorities. We need to explain to them that the Democrats are damaging their lives too
and that please they're welcome to join us and please speak out about it because we are inclusive
ideologically as long as you're on the side of freedom and rights and the constitution,

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then you're welcome to join this movement.
So now it's my pleasure to show you an interview that I had with a very fascinating individual. His
name is Chris Widener and he's starting up an excellent way to mobilize our communities to fight back
at both the local level and at the national level against woke corporations and against democratic

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activists in our community by grouping together and supporting each other's businesses.
Chris, tell me about this idea that you hatched in some of the great things like you and
Dinesh D'Souza have talked about it and he thinks it's a good idea and you got him on board
and he's great obviously and the patriotic American who stood up for the right things that we care

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about. So tell me a little about how Red Referral Network will help us mobilize and organize.
Yeah, absolutely. It's interesting. Typically the average conservative, they watch TV or they listen
to radio, they're watching the nightly news or they're listening to Bonsino or somebody on the radio
and what do they do? They get angry and they shake their fists. This is horrible, this is rotten.

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But what do you do? We all know it's horrible, we all know it's rotten. So then you'll have somebody
like Target and they go, "Hey, we've got gay Santa and gay nutcrackers for Christmas." And you go,
"I never go in there again." And you don't, right? Starbucks, Target, you know, Bud Light, whatever
it might be. But what do you do aside from shaking your fist at the television and cutting out large

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corporations, cutting out large corporations is actually kind of easy. But I heard a statistic the other day
that small businesses and small donations far outweigh. I think it was eight times as much money
goes to politicians and organizations from small businesses than it does these giant packs even.
And we look at it like, "Oh, that pack spent $20 million." Yeah, but you piece together,

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you know, 50 million small businesses who donate to the left, that's a lot more money to support
leftist ideas, organizations, and politicians. So we said, "What if we starved those people?
What if we kept money from?" Because if you think about the process, think about the process. I have a

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rougher and I need a new roof. He shows up at my house, I write him a check for $30,000 or whatever it
costs, you know, for a new roof, and he's a liberal. And he says, "I'm going to support Joe Biden.
Joe, here's a check for $3,000. He takes $3,000 of my dollars, gives it to Joe Biden. Joe Biden gets
elected." Then he stands up in the bully pulpit of the president, he says, "Chris Widener and Kyle

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Becker are horrible rotten dirty trade, phobic homophobic sexist racist insurrectionists."
You're not a little bit too well, Chris. That sounds familiar. You can eye paint for it.
Another guy said, "It's like tipping your executioner. Hey, you're going to kill me. All right,
here's a hundred bucks. Thanks." Well, that's brilliant, Chris, because I love the idea of like,

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we get mad at Target, we get bad at Starbucks, but like Disney or whatever. But what about the
local terrain? Because like before I became a journalist, I was, you know, I did some activism in
about 2010 Tea Party Wave. I helped get Nan Hayworth and New York elected, and that was a, you know,
like kind of the, you know, Orange County, Rockland County, part of New York. What I found during my

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time mobilizing, you know, ran a phone bag, it did door knocking with groups of people. What I found,
the small business people are definitely on our side. There's some of the best people in terms of
like just pushing back against, you know, over regulation and taxation and all of these core
economic issues. We get them on our side and show them that we care about them and that we support them,

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you know, maybe even more than money, just showing them that we back you, you know, and push back.
I think that's a great added dimension to what Red Referral Network could be able to offer
conservatives at the granular level. I think that's, you know, to get that data, get that
information in that training. Well, and ultimately we are in a tough economy. Bidenomics is horrible,

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no matter what the press secretary says or any of the talking heads say the average American
spent a $900 a month more for exactly what they were buying two years ago, $900 a month. In fact,
I was sitting, I was sitting with my congressman, my federal congressman and my local state representative,
we're at a coffee shop and a little gal comes walking in with a couple little kids. She looked like

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she's maybe 28 or 30 and I said, you know, Republicans, we're always talking about macro economics and
trillion dollar budgets. This little gal doesn't, she doesn't understand it. She's not thinking about
that. The only thing she's thinking about is that her husband gives her a $1,000 a month for food
and now it costs her $1,400 a month. That's the only thing she's trying to figure out. One of the

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things that we can do and this is one of the reasons that Dinesh and I are doing this together is
we want to help conservatives make more money. So what we're doing is we're putting the Red
referral network are weekly meetings all across the country. It's a national movement with a local feel
and they get together every week, 20, 30, 40 people and they get to know each other. They support one

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another but they refer business to one another. So let's say that you're my rougher Kyle in my group
and I'm the accountant and I'm out doing my thing and I talking to somebody and they go, yeah,
I need to talk to my accountant because I got a big roof thing and I got a problem. I got to spend
30 grand. Can you help me out with that? Mr. Accountant and I say I can help you out with the
accounting side but do you have a good rougher? No, I got to look for one. I got just the guy for you.

(34:23):
Kyle Becker, you got to call him up. Now you go get that $30,000 and you donate to people who believe
or organizations or politicians who believe what I believe in. So in a way, it's sort of I call it
keeping the money in house. I kind of go like, right, let's keep the money in house. It's been done
by religious people for a very long time. Mormons have done it for a long time. Jewish people,

(34:44):
I knew from New York, yeah, Orthodox. They'll do business with people outside their community
but first shot is always given to somebody who believes like they believe. And frankly, given the
assault on conservatives, frankly, they're the ones that started it, right? We've been the ones,
could you imagine a conservative saying, I just found out that my dry cleaner voted for Biden.

(35:06):
I never taking my suit to that person again. That's not the way conservatives are.
But yeah, we're not vindictive, you're right. Yeah, we're not vindictive. So to me, it's like,
all right, you made the rules. We're going to start doing business. We're going to cut you out.
I still like you. I'll still say, hey, well, way that you when I drive by, I'm just disagree. We
politely disagree and we're just going to take it elsewhere. And Chris, the other thing that I

(35:31):
that I love about this concept and everything that you laid out sounds exciting and promise
and blessing is that from that 2010 Tea Party activist background that I have, you know, what I found
is like in times when we're like a little bit daunted by our economic challenges and by the corporate
media attacking us, we need a way to like meet each other face to face and have a good talk about

(35:57):
productive things that we can do. That lifts your morale, that lifts your spirit. It gives you great
networking, I guess they call it in business. But you know, that's a little abstract. What that
really means is meeting real people who have real concerns and maybe gets the ball rolling to
other things you can do too. So like this is a great productive thing. Sure, but it could be like an

(36:21):
entrance point into, you know, stop letting this stuff overwhelm you, don't you. This will help you
organize your thinking and your plan of how to respond in a productive way at a dinner table type of
you know, concept. Yeah, you know, we get beat up all the time. All you have to do is flip through

(36:43):
TV. You'll see some talking head saying these people are horrible rotten insurrectionists. And,
you know, even the strongest personality, you're a strong person, I'm a strong personality.
Even we kind of get a little discouraged sometimes like how long are they going to tell
everybody how horrible I am. But think about the average person who's, you know, they haven't done
as much study as you and I have. They haven't, they don't have the communication skills that you and I

(37:07):
have. They're, you know, they're by themselves in their home or whatever. They start thinking, maybe I
am terrible. Well, if they start getting together on a regular basis with other conservatives, they
can look around the room and go, oh, I'm not alone. This guy's great. And he's a conservative. She's
fantastic. And she's a conservative. And it builds us up. And then to top the whole thing off, this is,

(37:30):
you know, one of the great things that Dinesh is going to be doing. Dinesh produces a lot of content.
But he's going to be creating exclusive content every single week just for RedBerfro network members.
So every week, they're going to get a five to seven minute video. It's going to be actionable stuff.
It's not going to be, hey, here's the theory. It's going to be here's the problem and here's what we

(37:51):
can do. And it'll be rooted in news of the day so that people who are grappling with this every day,
they get somebody who can kind of paint the picture for them. Now they're in this group and they
get to discuss it amongst each other. And it strengthens them to your point. Then when they're at a
dinner table somewhere else and they're the only, they're the lone conservative. And somebody says

(38:11):
something, you know, that they know they're not true. They can say, well, you know, I was thinking about
this the other day. And here's what I think. And they lay it out because they've discussed it. They've
heard it and it strengthens them. And I think Chris, the left is really afraid of this kind of activism.
You saw it with the school board meetings when we were just talking about common sense things that
should be in libraries, they flipped their lids because this kind of grassroots activist approach

(38:36):
really, they don't like it no matter how benign and how good the people are there. And,
you know, in peace, loving and just good-hearted Christian, God-fearing, hard-working people, it
doesn't matter. They are afraid of this grassroots activist because they think they own that. Like
that's their baby. That's how they amassed power since the 1960s, 1960s, 1970s. And conservatives,

(39:02):
I, you know, again, just a reference to Tea Party just one more time. That was like the first real time
that I remember like we all were getting like active, it seems, in my periphery. And they like
really tried to suck this out and derail it, you know. But we need to take that power back,
have a more decentralized model of activism like Red Referral, you know, holds out for us. And

(39:29):
you know, I'm excited to take part in to like, you know, to get involved and you know, talk with
other conservatives and, you know, it could be great. You know, I think where I live, I live in North
Dallas, Texas. This is like a perfect incubator for this sort of thing because there are so many
God-fearing, you know, just good-hearted, hard-working Texans who were a little bit confused because

(39:55):
there's so many businesses here. There's all spread out, so many contractors, so much commercial
development and building and house maintenance that we need because it's hot. It is a hot. It can
be dusty and, you know, our homes and our real estate take a beating, so we have to go to contractors.
You know, we really just do word-a-mouth around here. We need to be more informed and educated

(40:19):
about who, you know, may not just have a good reputation that's fine for doing a good job,
you know, thumbs up to whoever that is. But we need to find people who are also good at their jobs,
but are, you know, going to come and do a great job and also, you know, not be working at cross-purposes.
Yeah, absolutely. And that's what we're doing. We're keeping the money in-house. We're introducing

(40:42):
each other. We hope to have 5,000 groups with an average of 30 to 40 people in each group in the
next three to five years. Now, think about that when you talk about activism. We're going to have,
let's call it 200,000 people in our network. And it'll actually be more than that because not
everybody's going to join one of our local groups, but they can still participate in all the other
things that we have going on. Now, imagine there's an election and then there's a challenge to the

(41:06):
election and there's a recount. Well, what do we always do? We need 100 people to go to that city.
You know, this is going to give us the ability to have a network of people to say, hey, Atlanta
needs some people to go down there for the recount. Milwaukee needs some people to go there for the
recount. Phoenix needs some people to go there for the recount. And we can call upon those people to

(41:28):
actually, or think about if we have a great, we have great candidates all the time that are raising
money locally, you're running for Congress or, you know, whatever, we can put the word out, hey,
we've got a great person. They need some money. Let's go bless them with some money. Now we have 200,000
people and they all show up and they dump, you know, a couple hundred thousand bucks into a campaign.

(41:49):
That can make a difference. So it starts in those local groups, but it's the personalized attention
that people get in those local groups, but in a national movement that we think can be very powerful.
I do too, because I the thing I really like about Red Referral Network and one thing that, you know,
I'm excited to like, you know, follow along with you and as your story grows and how we get, you know,

(42:11):
get the word out on Red Referral Network is that it's a great first step. It's like a very small step.
You know, a lot of us, like, you know, we're just, you know, we work hard. We want to raise our families,
we want to have a peaceful community. We don't want to be like this kind of, you know, not everybody,
I don't mind it, but they don't want to be this outspoken activists who are like, you know, looking for trouble.

(42:35):
There's no trouble involved here. You're just going out and doing a very benign and hopefully
benevolent and productive thing that that could just help you, you know, push back against these, you know,
not just the woke corporations, but also the people who are just, you know, God love them. They're

(42:56):
donating to the wrong people sometimes. Well, they say, all politics is local. You got a lot. Yeah.
You got a lot of bad local politicians who are making bad decisions, you know, on your school board.
They're bringing, you know, diversity, equity, inclusion into your school board. They're bringing woke
curriculum. You got people that are planning, you know, they've growth management so that they won't

(43:16):
let more houses get built. Well, what happens when you have an influx of people and a decrease in housing?
Price has gone up. You got more people buying fewer houses. These are decisions that are being made
by liberal politicians. So it's not just the big grand scheme of things. It's also on a local level
where we have to take it back. I love it. And then face to face, you know, patriotic American,

(43:40):
the patriotic American. So tell me a little bit about how people can join in with Red
Pearl Network or find more information about about this opportunity for people. Yeah. The first
thing I before I do that, I want to tell you, I know some people are probably going, wow,
a weekly meeting. And here's what I would say. Do you eat lunch on Tuesdays? I'm asking your
audience. Do you eat lunch on Tuesdays? Oh, you do. Go eat with a few conservatives every week,

(44:03):
right? Yeah. Do you do stopping at coffee on your way to work on Wednesdays? Okay. Stop and have
a cup of coffee with a bunch of conservatives on your way to work on Wednesdays. Leave 45 minutes
early and hour earlier. You know, you're going to be doing these things anyway. And that's where these
groups meet. They meet in cafes. They meet in coffee shops. They meet in churches. They meet in
libraries. And you just get together and you share. So the thing that they can do is they can go and

(44:27):
register for free. And all they have to do is click the link there. I'm assuming you'll have it on the
on the button below. Click on the link below. Go over. There's a three minute little video that I
shot that kind of tells you a little bit about it. But then there's a registration and it takes you
90 seconds. We ask you a few questions like what's your profession? The first thing you do is give
us an email and a zip code because all of this is tied to zip code. We're spending an awful lot of

(44:51):
money on a website that's going to be able to network us across the country via zip code. So we're
going to be able to say, Hey, something's happening over there. Click, click, click. Here's 150 people
right there that can help out. It's where we're really looking toward the future that way. And then
it's going to ask, you know, have you ever been in a networking group before? Do you have leadership

(45:11):
skills? Would you like to lead a group? We're really looking for leaders as well. People who can
facilitate a group meeting once a week and and those kinds of things. So it takes you 90 seconds
totally free registration. And then we're building out a real nice network of things that we're going
to make available to people. So we're partnering with a health sharing company. Most people have maybe

(45:38):
heard an ad about health sharing or something like that. But the average family of four saves a thousand
dollars a month from health sharing as opposed to health insurance. Thousand dollars a month,
they on average, they save. We've got a great opportunity for people of the Red Referral Network
to participate in health sharing if they want to. That's an extra twelve thousand dollars a year in

(45:58):
your pocket. We've got some business coaches. And my background is as a professional speaker. I'm
in the motivational speakers all the time. I went to a few of my very conservative speaker friends
who are business coaches. And I said, I want to give conservative small business people the best
coaching possible. So we're putting together opportunities for people who say, hey, I'm new to business

(46:19):
or I'm new in this industry. I need a little help. We're going to be able to come along side of
them and give some business coaching. So we've got amazing ideas. Denesh is an incredible guy.
Obviously he's been an iconic leader in our movement for 30 something years now. And we're very
excited about it. But yeah, just click on the button. Take 30 or 90 seconds to register and we're

(46:40):
good to go. Well, thank you, Chris. I mean, it sounds not only really beneficial and productive,
but also could be fun. And you know, a good chance for to meet other conservative. We're going to
have contests. What state has done the most referrals? Because when somebody comes back and says,
Joe gave me a 30 thousand dollar roofing job, that goes in the pile and we track it. And then every

(47:06):
quarter, we're like, this group in Atlanta, they did a million dollars worth of referrals. Well,
yeah, this group in Indiana, they did a million one in the last quarter. And then we'll add up the
states. We're going to do a lot of fun competitions. And we're going to give some rewards to people
who give the most referrals. And yeah, we're going to we're going to make it fun. It'll be fun.
Awesome. Well, thanks a lot for your time today. I really appreciate it. I'm excited about it. So

(47:29):
thank you. You have a great day. You too. Bye.
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