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September 12, 2025 • 30 mins
From a turning point to a complete U turn or to continue the momentum as it stands today. Which one will you choose.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
Today is a Friday at the Double B Studios in
Las Vegas, Nevada. I have had several days since Wednesday
when I spoke to you to go over my thoughts
as to how can this happen? But I can tell

(01:01):
you that, my audience, I have come to zero conclusions.
I only have schools of thought. I only have thoughts
from the recesses of the memories that have touched my heart,

(01:23):
that have been brought to bear as a result of
what has transpired in the last few days.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
And we all know.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yes, Charlie Kirk was cut down at the beginning of
his life at thirty one years old, because he spoke
to his truth.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
He didn't say.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
That it was anyone else's methodology. He didn't say it
was anyone else's justice that he had purported to live by.
He merely stated, in very succinct and understandable and simple

(02:13):
terms that everything in his life was based on his faith.
But it was his journey, it was his faith. He
didn't say, you have to take my word for this.
He had never said that, So how can this happen? Well?

(02:38):
The first thought that came to my mind once I
realized that he had been assassinated was that he was
a martyr.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
That is the.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
First term that came to my mind. That Charlie was
a martyr for good, that he would be remembered for that,
whether the assassin wanted him to be remembered or not.
One of the things that you can't change is the

(03:15):
fact that people will always be evil, people will always
be good. But if you stand on either side, what
do you take from that? I don't know on the
side of evil because I don't stand there. I stand

(03:37):
for good because I have seen it work in my life.
I have suffered a tense amount of loss in my life.
My twin brother died in twenty eleven, My oldest brother
died in twenty sixteen, my youngest sins died in twenty

(04:02):
twenty one. So yes, I understand the meaning of grief,
the meaning of anger, the meaning of lashing out to God.
And I have to tell you. Maybe it was the
fact that I had faced it before, but I don't

(04:22):
think so. When I heard that Charlie Kirk had been
shot in the neck, I realized.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Something very important.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
You don't survive that, so I knew, and for whatever
reason they didn't say right away, but I knew that
he never was loaded into that ambulance alive. His life
had been snuffed out immediately, So he really didn't suffer.

(04:53):
Is that comforting? No, that is not comforting. He was
taken from us too soon. And the first thing that
showered over my entire being was a feeling of peace,
a feeling of connection with Jesus, who was his savior

(05:18):
and mine. Why do I say that because my personal feelings,
and they don't mean anything to anyone except I would
like to express them to give you an idea of
a thought. Maybe God, who does take us from this earth,

(05:42):
whether we are ready or not, whether we are ready
to relinquish our loved ones or not. Is not in
our hands. It is not in our control. It is
in God God's control. And that, my friends, will never change.

(06:08):
No matter how much anger now, no matter how much
belaboring and screaming you give to the world as a
result of it, doesn't change it. What changes loss is
the acceptance of what that person gave you, What did

(06:34):
that person contribute to your life. One of the things
that it does do is it tells you that God
had decided. Charlie finished the race. Charlie gave it his all.

(06:55):
Charlie loved us all in our naked and our exposure
as to what our true intentions were. He was good
beyond belief. He was good because of his relationship with
ultimate Good, our Savior that died to save us. He

(07:21):
had a passion for letting you know about that. He
had a passion for saying it, for expressing it every
chance he got, and to make you aware that his
life was in the image and likeness of that savior,

(07:44):
because he knew from the bottom of his heart there
was nothing more important but that God had put him
on earth to send a message to all of those
that God loved and because God loved them, Charlie loved

(08:08):
them too.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
So where does that leave.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Us in his absence? It leaves us at a turning
point because his relationship with God created a mission on
earth that he called turning point. So, my audience, how

(08:37):
does that put you at peace? Knowing that someone so
young dedicated his life to the forgotten young, the youth
of this country that have been set aside, that have

(08:57):
been educated in a mass of evil intention, and to
disgrace themselves in public because they demand that their existence
and their manhood and their womanhood be changed to suit

(09:19):
a norm that cannot be And that became Charlie's mission,
not to extinguish them, not to set them aside, not
to say that they were lost, because they were not
lost on God. God created them, He created us all.

(09:48):
But we can't say that because we cannot say that
out loud. The public square has destroyed in the eyes
of the public. But yet, because God is our savior,

(10:08):
we are still here. Whether evil likes it or not.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
You're listening to Renegade Talk Radio.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
I couldn't believe it, my audience. For the first time
since I have been broadcasting and podcasting on how can
this happen? I was at a complete loss for words.
I couldn't even express my emotions. I have been overrun

(10:38):
with sadness, with grief, with loss, but also with peace
because I know that our martyr, Charlie Kirk is home
with our Savior. I know that he's safe in our
Savior's arms. But he fought a huge fight. He fought

(11:04):
with everything in his being, and the only thing that
we can do in his memory is to continue that fight.
To understand that no one has the right to tell
you you cannot believe what you want. But apparently the

(11:29):
left only knows how to right that message on a bullet.
Apparently they don't know where discourse begins. They have ended
discourse and the violence has begun. They don't know how
to talk. They do know how to demand, bully, shove

(11:55):
you into a corner and tell you to shut the
f up. It's happened every day, as we have seen
all over the media spectrum. I think it's time, my friends,
to turn off the medium and to reflect on one

(12:18):
very important fact.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Freedom.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
You don't have to do anything they tell you. You do,
not have to stand by and take any of their ship.
But you do have to remember God loves them as
much as he loves you. And Charlie show to us

(12:48):
in his discourse he went to the public square, he
went to where he was hated. Donald Trump Junior explained
it when he spoke with Megan Kelly on her show.
He talked about going to the University of Michigan with

(13:10):
Charlie Kirk years ago when Charlie was a teenager. They
went to Michigan and they went to campus to speak
to the young collegiates. Before they got there, they couldn't
get a room in a hotel. Every room in the
area was completely sold out. When they got to campus,

(13:35):
they were about to go on stage to speak to students,
and the police came to them, to Donald and to Charlie,
and the police said to them, you can do this
if you want to, but we advise you against it.
Do not go out there. We cannot protect you. We

(14:00):
cannot ensure your safety. Because even the police can't protect
us from the evil that is pervasive in this country today.
They can't do it, even if they could stand in
front of the bullet. They don't know where it's coming from.

(14:25):
One thing I do know is all the bullets coming
have the same message. We will cut you down if
you don't shut your mouth.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
So what do we do?

Speaker 2 (14:39):
We keep talking, We keep speaking, but we do it
with love the way that Charlie taught us. He taught
us respect one another, because if you don't what do
you have in this life? You can't ask act alone.

(15:02):
You must have the ability to understand that no one
stops you from being who you are. You decide who
you are, you make the decision. Charlie made that decision

(15:24):
as a young man and lived his life in that thought.
He made everyone aware of how his relationship with God
changed him.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
That is what is missing today.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
We are afraid to say that God has changed us
because the nation has turned from God. We are no
longer a God fearing nation. But wait one minute, hold
that thought. Have we turned from God? Or are we

(16:05):
afraid to say it? Are we afraid to tell people
God is my savior, Jesus is everything to me. We're
afraid to say it because we will be cut down.
That's what they want you to think. It took their time.

(16:26):
They took their time to get to Charlie, didn't they
Because he had created turning point and he had created
a turning point in this nation. He had created it
for the rest of us to see what happens when

(16:50):
God comes into your life and changes you, changes you
to be free to stand up with your own voice,
to express your own thoughts and your own beliefs, and

(17:12):
never to be told that you do not have the
right to those beliefs. And make no mistake, my audience,
I do not condemn them. I do think that they
have not established their relationship with God. But he won't

(17:38):
make you see him. He will not make you hear him.
He will not tell you you will have to do
what I say. He will embrace you, he will open
his arms to you. He will establish a relationship with you.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
But you have to knock on his door.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
He's sending you messages every day so that your ability
to hear him is available to you. Make no mistake
about that. But is he telling you you have to
do what I say or else. No, what he's saying

(18:28):
is I'm here for you. He died for you, and
he left you away to connect with him because he
was raised from the dead. He is the real thing.
That was what gave Charlie Kirk peace. That's what gave

(18:51):
him relentless courage. That is what made him speak to
you in terms that were simple that you could understand,
because he wanted to share his joy with you. But
more importantly, he wanted you to share in his freedom.

(19:17):
He wanted you to be free.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
You're listening to Renegade Talk radio my audience.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
You are very very respectful of me, and you listen
to me even when you're not so sure you want
to hear me, and I really appreciate you very much.
This today on how can this happen? Is more about

(19:47):
the fact that I'm struggling with my feelings about how
can this happen? And my feelings of anxiousness and grief
and anger. But I did suppress the anger after I

(20:07):
expressed it on the thought and hearing that Charlie Kirk
had died. Why was that the turning point for me?
Because of the fact that we all have a life
to live. If somebody takes it from us, we think

(20:29):
that that's unjust. We know it's unjust. You're not allowed
to take a life. I don't care what religion you are.
I don't care if you don't believe in God, if
you are an atheist, you have no right to take

(20:51):
another person's life. That's just end of story. Not to happen.
Unfortunately it did, and there is evil all around us.
We have shied from it, and we have allowed it
to grow in fester and become the point of civil distress.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
How have we done that.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
We don't hold people accountable that commit crime. We don't
open the jail doors. I don't even know why there
are any. Undo the locks on prison doors and prison cells.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
You don't need them.

Speaker 2 (21:39):
People are walking free all day long to commit as
many crimes as possible.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
We saw it.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
With the lady in North Carolina. She's just a young
woman and this brute takes her life viciously, and people
don't even know about it because the press isn't going
to tell you when it doesn't fit their narrative. But

(22:08):
instead of telling you about Charlie Kirk, this is what
they do. A courageous young woman at the University of
North Texas was speaking out after an incident at her
She went to class for methods. Okay, let me see here,

(22:33):
quantitative methods class. Now, I don't know what quantitative methods are,
but it's obviously a difficult class, according to her description,
So she was harassed and removed from the class because

(22:54):
she defended Charlie Kirk just hours after his shocking assassination
during a live campus debate. She described this on TikTok,
saying that she saw students looking at a video of

(23:16):
his death and laughing, and she told her classmates, what's
wrong with you? How can you celebrate the death of
a young man? And for her objections, the professor came
over to her and said, out, damn spot, take it

(23:38):
outside and laughed.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
She did.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
She went to the dean of students. You know what
the dean of students told her to do, to go
to the head of the psychology department. You can take
that anyway you want, but this is how I took it.
Shut your damn mouth, That's how I took it. Everybody
can laugh at whatever they want, but my audience can

(24:08):
we object whenever we want? When are we heard? When
are we seen? For what matters to us? No, that's
not allowed. I cannot believe that God only created one

(24:33):
spokesperson for freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom
for why people died to save this country when.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
We are here to carry on.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
Are they the only spokespersons for freedom? We We have
for very long said to ourselves, well, we can't do it.
We can't say it, we can't think it, because if
we do, somebody's going to hurt us. But the pain

(25:19):
is far too deep for us to turn away. Now,
Charlie created a movement called Turning Point. What did he
see that we didn't? One thing he did see that
I know we don't because I've talked to the ones

(25:41):
I love at length about it. They don't feel that
we are in the majority, the people that are for good,
that stay for God and country.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
But we are.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It took Charlie to prove it to us because by
creating Turning Point USA, he created a network of totally
young people who went to polls, who went to make
sure that ballots were securely cast. He made us be

(26:21):
more aware and involved in the election process. He didn't
do it by murdering the people on the left. He
didn't talk down about the people on the left. And
he was definitely not a racist. Oh my gosh, that's

(26:44):
all they have. You're a racist, You're a homophobe. Charlie
wasn't against transgenderism. He was against the people that told you.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
You weren't a woman. Or you were not a man.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
He only told people that God created you to be
a man. God created you to be a woman.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
What is wrong with that.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
What's wrong with that is that you believe in God
and that you believe God made you what you are.
That is the fight that we are in this country
is in a fight for the soul of America. And

(27:43):
I believe that Charlie came to us via God to
show us what a turning point looks like. The turning
point is that we are to shut up, not stand
up for what we believe. We're not allowed. That's just false,

(28:07):
my audience, and you all know it. You have heard
me time and again say to you. We have to
speak our truths, we have to stand up for what
we believe. Well, now I'm telling you nobody can do that.

(28:30):
Nobody can stand up for you. Only you can do that.
But I can assure you, just as Charlie had his
voice that God gave him so eloquently, that you have
the same choice as well. As you have the same voice,

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you can say it in any way that it is
in in you, within you. You can say it differently
than anyone else in the world can say it. And
these people do not have a right to shut you up.
You can give them the right by allowing them to

(29:19):
shut your mouth. Stop it, don't do it, don't let
them win. Be a turning point for this nation that
we were so given and blessed to have the most
beautiful nation on earth, the most different lifestyle choices. We

(29:48):
were given lifestyles that had never been seen in the
history of the world because we were.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Given them by God.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Because God created this land and we became its stewards.
So where do we stand, my audience. We stand right
where God has placed us, and it's up to you
to make that relationship count.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Because Charlie showed you how
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