July 10, 2025 • 54 mins
Check out this rebroadcast of Ellen Kohn, discussing her book"Be Like the Wind" where she discusses what it's like to be a medium and how she can connect with animals
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Speaker 2 (02:05):
Hello everyone, Happy Halloween and welcome to Rip Paranormal and Friends.
But we have a special guest for you tonight, A
little bit different topic for us. I think maybe once,
maybe about four years ago, we had something similar, but
I'm very excited for this. I think you guys will
all enjoy it. But I'm welcome Ellen Cone to the show.
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She's an author. She has a book out called Be
Like the Wind, Three Crimes, Channel Spiritual Light. So thank
you for joining us tonight. Ellen.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, we are absolutely excited to have you as well. Now,
kind of give us a little bit of background on yourself.
How did you become an author and how did you
come up with this title for this book? Like, okay,
all come without.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I'm really this is my first book and it started
with my horse, Manty. So I rescued a lot of
animals in my life, and this horse was very broken
and starving, literally starving to death. And after seventeen years,
he was like a big dog. And we were out
riding and I jokingly said to him, what life advice
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do you have for me today? And he said, be
Like the Wind. I was so taken aback. I pulled
out my phone and I wrote it down, and well,
maybe I'm supposed to write down these messages that I
get from him and the other horses that I've shared
my life with. And that was the genesis of the book,
because I do hear them, I do see their images.
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I work in the animal communication field, so it's not
foreign to me, and I've been before that I was
I was trained as a healer, and then I did
really intense psychic training, so it all kind of started
to fit together that you joke around and you get
this phrase in your head that you say, where'd that
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come from? And you know it's coming from him, not
for me, because I couldn't have even made that up.
So that's how the book got started, and it took
me eight years to get it done. I'd start, i'd stop,
I'd get things. I would say, you got to work
on the books. I would talk to them and get
new material, and then finally in twenty twenty three, I'm like,
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all right, this is it. I'm going to do this,
and I started trying to organize it, which is a
part in the book that says spirit had its own
idea because I couldn't stick to an outline, and I
finally gave up said all right, as you guys, show
me how you want the book to look. And they did,
starting with their own stories and their own journeys and
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their own traumas, and then they lead into how it's
kind of a self help you know, second part of
the book where they tell us in really simple language,
how does be in the world?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Very cool?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So there, So, how did you find out that you
had these abilities or guests to communicate with the spirit
world or animals?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
How did that all come about?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It came about my clients and my clients' animals, and
one in particular, horse many years ago, his owner said,
ask him how he hurt himself? And I did, Toby,
how did you hurt yourself? And I heard something completely
out of the blue that wasn't She and I were
thinking how he heard himself, which was in a clinic,
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and said to her, I don't know where that came from.
And then I started asking people did I really hear that?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, you heard it. So then I started studying with
animal communicators, and in two thousand and seven I put
it out, all right, everybody send me your animals. I'm
going to talk to them. I don't care. I'm just
going to practice, and I feel your journal. And I
didn't charge anybody because I wanted to keep practicing. And
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it started working. And I also realized I could see
inside people's houses I could see wallpaper, could see their kitchens.
I could see the big, huge old tree in the
backyard that had a bench, and I'm like this remote viewing.
So then I've done tracking lost animals, even though it's
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really really hard and it doesn't always have a good ending.
For many reasons, I do it. Most of the time.
I try if I have enough bandwidth to really do
it for the person, or I give them some tools
to tune in to their own animal, because the animal
has to want to be found, has to want to
go home, and has to hear me say it's okay
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to show yourself. That's our first step, so we know
where you are. And I doubt I'm a spiritual dowser.
I use pendulums and wands off and I can get
a direction where they're, where they're going, or where they
are in the moment, because they move around, so you're
tracking in. Yeah, you could be putting up the yellow
house where they peeked in back yard yesterday and there
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are three doors down today. It's true, but I always
am willing to try because I just really try to
be of service. I really really do.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Right, have you come across an animal that really didn't
that had run away or something and didn't want to
go back to their YES members because maybe it was
not a good place for them to be.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yes. I have, especially cats, because if they gets spooped
off and they find a home where there isn't a
barking dog or somebody chasing them fence, there's a big
black lab growling at them, they don't want to go home.
They'll say sorry, I'm going somewhere I feel safe. And
it isn't necessarily about the good relationship they have with
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their people. It can be something else. Or they run
off because they are something's going on and get hit
by a car so they don't go home, and I
have to be on to tell the person I'm really
really sorry, but your cat got killed by a car.
And but there's closure, there's closure.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
How do you deal with with telling somebody that their
pet doesn't want to come home?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Like?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
How carefully? Carefully? It happened a couple months ago where
the woman's mother in law's doodle was chasing hat all
over the yard and I got enough pictures of where
he went that she confirmed there was a church, there
was this, there was that, And I said, I think
he's being fed and I think he's safe, but I
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also he does not want to come back. I mean
sometimes the human makes promises they don't.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Keep, right.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, I've had that happen where my neighbor in
Colorado had me talk to her show dog, who was
this gorgeous azsy and the Aussie did not want to
be a show dog. She wanted to hang out with
the three boys and be a buddy in the backyard.
And the said, all right, tell her if she gets
the championship, I'll retire her. She got the championship, and
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the continued to show her.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Oh my gosh, she.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Broke her promise, right, I mean, you got to follow
through if you're going to do that and bargain with them,
Like everybody, you have to follow through. And I didn't
say anything because it's not my business, and you know
that's their contract. They got to work somehow.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah. Oh man, that's a bummer right there. Yep. Going
back to your book, be like the Wind is like
a book, like a channel book, and it's about like
three horses that are delivering this message correct, yes, through
a human. Right, can you tell us a little bit
more about what they say are how they want to
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help us.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yes, So Monty, who was the one that gave the
first message, be like the wind. He followed a horse
named Billy, And when I looked back putting the book together,
Billy's messages were there way before I got anty, and
I didn't see it spiritually till I looked in hindsight.
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Billy was a spiritual wake up call. And then after
Monty named Romeo, who's still here, He's still alive. The
others and they are really telling us a few main things.
Be authentic, go within, look to the spirit world for
your answers. Find gratitude practice. Gratitude practice, you know, really
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stepping up and being the best version of yourself and
help the world. Because the whole beginning of the book
is their version of what we're doing to Earth, you know,
the rape, the competition, the districts that we're putting out
there all the time, and how they and how they're like,
you can't hide it anymore. We see what you're doing
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as humans, and it's causing construction not only of animals
but people and the beautiful planet. So they need with that,
like we know we see your rage, we see it
and we do have it. I have it at time.
I mean, I'm not a perfect human being, and but
when I feel it, I go there's that rage, you
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get it, get it under wraps, because you don't walk
around like that. So, yeah, they're very helpful because they're
so grounded and they're so connected to spirit, and they
do let the wind go. They do let dogs and
you know all animals let stuff go through them. But
I think courses are very forgiving. You know that when
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they have trauma, for sure, it needs to be unwound
and helped and healed. But they do heal. They can
heal all animals, right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah. Now when they are communicating, are they communicating through
like words or vision or how are they communicating?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I can hear them, I can see their pictures, and
I can feel the vibration sometimes where they're saying. Especially
with Monty, he really taught me a lot about fear
and when I came in with a fearful vibration, he
would pick up on it immediately. And life, don't come
near me. You know, I got enough my own. You
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can't project that onto me. So go through feeling like emotion.
They can go through a lot of clairvoyant psychic pictures
and part of the book is because they discussed their
past lives. You know, I get a picture like a
horse in the Crusades with rome I think it was,
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and I go, wow, tell me more about this which
king did you serve? And then he would tell me.
I would hear his words. He would unravel the story
of what he did in that past life. And it
was really helpful. And I could see it, like because
Romeo looks like a Spanish Andalusian horse, but he's an
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American coustang. But his lineage is clearly European, clearly physique,
his face, he just has another world kind of look
about him. And I get it now. It all makes
sense now with.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
These three horses, they all kind of have their own journey.
Can you tell us a little bit about each one
of their journeys?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, Bill, who was in essence the first, even though
he came in after the book started. He was a
show horse and was not appreciated. He was very talented,
so they kept selling him and moving him on and
turning him over. He had no permanence, he had no person.
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He had blue ribbons, but it did not matter to him.
He didn't care. He wasn't one of those that wanted
to be that champion. So when I met he showed
me the hugest sense of humor by sticking his tongue
out like on command, like you tickle his nose, and
this tongue comes out like a dog. He laughing, and
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I said, wait a minute, this horse is really different.
So part of his journey was being himself and letting
out the showing and the performing and all this. Look
at that go he was beautiful, but it wasn't about
his beauty. It was about his personality. So he talked
about play and fun and not to be serious because
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I was young enough that I was kind of still
serious about what am I doing, and I was jumping
in and traj uh uh. He just wanted to have fun.
And then he was really a bag of bones, and
he was about healing the fear of humans and getting
over the abuse that he witnessed. I think they did
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a lot to him on the racetrack. And Romeo was
a captured is a captured mustang who came from the
range in California. Helicopter round up. If you read any
of that, it's the worst of the worst of the worst.
Way to capture animals is scaring them to death with
the giant monster in the air causing his dampede where
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they run over each other. They're freaked out beyond belief,
they get hurt, they die, they never see their families again,
and must be really bonded in families and then sent
off to a holding pen where right now, I think
our number in the country's over sixty thousand horses in
holding pens. Very few get adopted. They're going to sit
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there whole lives in some pen. They'll be fed, some
will be trained, but they won't have their lives. Their
lives are gone. So that's Romeo. And he had a
lot of stories about the prison because he lived in
a prison for twelve years and he was a trainer's horse,
so he met a lot of horses coming and going. Yeah,
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and when he's standing at the window right now, here's
me in the window. I tried to show somebody the
other day, but I'm not very savvy to turn my
computer and say, look, he's standing right here. But yeah,
and his story is magnificent because he is my heart worse,
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not that the others weren't, but he olds me around
like a dog. I could probably take him on a
walk down the road now and he'd just be walking
by my side, like, not even in a halter. We're
so connected.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Wow, So that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Anyway, why do you think animals want to help humans
when humans can be so hurtful to them?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I think they have such a higher level of consciousness
that they can forgive us for what we're doing to
each other and to them and turn it around and say,
all right, I'm still here. Just turn to me and
I can help you. They want to help so much.
They want to serve, They want to be our companions.
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They're so loyal. They're so worst to use dogs that
are still wanting to have a master or a let's
not say mass. That sounds like ownership. We don't own them,
they don't own us. Have these companions to be in
that love space. You know, one thing I learned when
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I was writing the book because I did look up
the vibration of love, and I didn't know that love
has the highest frequency on the hurtz level of any
vibration out there. So if you can resonate with love,
and it isn't in love with a person or an animal,
it's walking in love and trying to be light. Then
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you're wearing a high vibration and you can let that
vessel of healing. It's very when you empty yourself and
you try to have mercy passion, you're you're walking for spirit,
to your spirit to use you as a vehicle to
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serve and help. It's really true. And I wasn't raised
like this at all, so I'm not spouting stuff that
I learned. It's all been experiential for me.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, this was very cool, very cool. Well, can I mean,
can anybody learn how to communicate with animals?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yes, yes you can. You know Smith have some great
books and a Twinny was writing for a while. She
was a tabletop dancer and she took that to a
pet psychic and she was so blown away that she
became an animal communicator and she has falled straight from
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the horse's mouth. It was one of the first ones
I read it. It's funny, it's light, and I all right,
if she can do it, anybody can do it. But
you want to have that passion and you want to
have persistence. Like anything in life, you're gonna fail, you're
gonna make mistakes, you're gonna screw up, you're gonna get
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it wrong or not, because maybe now I know what
I might be reading might be a past life, or
it happened to me where I've got two animals in
a picture, and I'm reading the one on the right
instead of one on the left because the run on
the right's talking. Oh you're not the one I'm supposed
to talk to, but you've got something to say, and
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you might not make sense of the information, but eventually
most people pull a thread or two or a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh, she jinks us. Remember we lost her, and she
literally just frosed. She talked, She talked about that. I'm
sorry everybody, but oh she just throws up. There we go.
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I was like, you jinxed us. You were talking about
how that happened to you the other day. You were talking.
I heard you, and the all of a sudden you
were just.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But I couldn't see you. And I live in near
the mountains, so it's possible my internet, it's also possible
spirits messing. I would tend to that.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
That's too funny, because we were just talking about that
before the show started, and lo and behold that happens.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It is hard to read your own animals. I'll give
you that we are so connected, we are so close.
I've been able to when I really, really really get quiet,
and of course now I've been doing it a long time.
And in the day, I remember a dog after we've
been away, and Tucker was sitting there and I'm like, whoa.
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I didn't hear him, but I knew he was saying
that house sitter was not okay the way his body
language was. And I found out he was, and he
was letting me know something wasn't right about her, and
I knew. I just knew it. And again I gave
your words, and I didn't see anything from him. I
just knew something. So those kinds of things happened too,
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where you just know, and that's right. Thanks for intuition
and we all have that.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh yeah, for sure. Now I know earlier you were
talking about you were a healer in things first, So
did you do work with actual human spirits prior to
the animal communication or.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I started with healing touch for animals because I met
a healer who worked with people, and she to work
on one of our kids and looked around, said, you
have so many animals you need to train in this
program for animals. So I did and then I worked
with reiki, and then I worked with another system which
right now is my main system called Meridian. It's mostly quote.
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And then as I said, I did psychic training for
seven years and every Wednesday we read for the public.
So I had a ton of practice for seven years.
And those I love those psychic readings.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh yes, I love.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
We read Your Rose, which is your now, like right now,
not tomorrow. We read two guest Lives, which gives so
much information about this lifetime, and re read seven Layers
of the Aura, which corresponds to your chakras, and all
the guides come in during those Any part of that
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reading can bring a guide in, and sometimes a third
past life will come in during the seven layers. But
there's always something that's a huge takeaway, like what is
the message from that past life for this life? And
it's fascinating. So and nothing is predictive, nothing is scary.
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It's not going to be you're gonna cut your finger
need stitches in five days. It's not that. How to
move energy in your life? And if there's something stuck,
I'm really tactful. Like I read a woman today and
she's a new widow and she's ready to date. And
I knew in the shower last night that her third layer,
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her solar plexus, was stuck. So I saw it in
the shower when I got there and I was reading her,
I said, Sue, you've got like one of those fishing nets,
a cast net where you threw to catch bait, and
it's like a filter. But we need to move it
out because it's preventing you from manifesting, you know, partner,
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new fun, new men. So that was the only thing
in her reading that was slightly like needed to be
pushed aside. And the rest was pretty strong because I'd
done a reading for right after her husband died, so
I saw the strength that had come in from six
months ago to today. But we were laughing. It was
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a lot of fun, and she, you know, she had
a rough go at the end when he was very
sick and all that. So it can really really help
people with stuff they're working on to you know, on
their personal journey.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Oh right, Yeah, for sure. I always thought about having
a reading. I just really haven't gone to do one yet.
So I'll gift you.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I'll gift you one. Will I will offer that as
a gift for a thank you for this. You need
about an hour and a half when your scheduled for minutes,
will do it?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Okay, sounds good. Yeah, that I've never I've been kind
of scared to deal on. And but I'm like, well
maybe I just need to have one to see.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
What I now. Nothing scary, I promise you at the
first I tell people there's nothing to be scared of.
I mean, fairies can come in, you know, Merlin came
in for me recently. My guides and guides can change.
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Guides can come in and out and change form. And
one of the things I find so fascinating through all
the teachers I've found is my favorite expression right now,
is there are no rules. I've had teachers say to me, oh,
dogs reincarnate as dogs, people reincarnate, his people, cats reincarnation.
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I don't believe that. And he's a respective teacher. I
don't believe that. And I asked him other teachers what
do you think, and they're like, no. One woman came
through Santa Fe. She's not doing mediumship anymore. She told
me she had been a wooly mammoth. Oh wow, that's
how far back went.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I do remember having that question, Like I asked somebody
on the show a few years ago. I don't remember
what the response was, but that was what my things.
I'm like, if we're reincarnated, I mean, because when I
was younger, I always thought I was like, well, I
want to be reincarnated as this animal, you know, like
if I come back, I want to be this animal
or whatever. And I got to think, I'm like, can
that really be possible? But I can't remember. I don't
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know if Kim remembers what show or episode it was,
but I do remember asking that question. So I'm glad
that somebody else thinks that can happen besides me.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Well, and here's another thing. This same teacher, we used
to go to his house pre COVID and we'd sit
in different rooms and we would trade readings. And I
was reading a woman and she died not long after that,
and somebody came in and she said, you're describing my son,
but he's he's here, he's not in the spirit world.
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And then I read her a little further, that's my husband.
He's in the spirit world. The teacher came in and said,
the living don't come into these readings. Well, I mean,
it happened. How can you dispute that that I described
son who is here. So there's another example that it's experiential.
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It's different for everyone. If you study some of the
European mediums, and there's some really really famous ones that
come out of Holland at jwan Hoff in Scotland, the
Finlay Institute of that they have really strict rules and
they separate the psychic readings from the mediumship readings. Well,
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seems my world it's all mixed into one because I
get people sometimes I'll be doing a reading and I'll
say I see a little white dog, Well that was
my dog when I was a child. So you can't
make this stuff up, elson you cannot, You can't.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, Well, we did an expo a few years ago,
was our very first one, and there was a gentleman
who was doing readings. But he would have animals come
through and like a lot of times he would start
like he would like start making the noise of the
animal and then say this is what I see, this
is what you know whatever, and this is what they're saying,
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or like if he had a spirit come through that
had an accent, he would like literally start talking in
that accent. I've never seen anybody else do that.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yet it's fat. It's wonderful. It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
There was a guy that used to come. I think
he still comes to Santa Fe from Australia. And he
was a physical medium and it was called ecdoplasm. He
would go in a dark like closet and he was
strapped to the chair. You couldn't see him, black curtains.
It was like his seance. The room was dark. I
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went with one of my kids and his girlfriend, and
the girlfriend at the time was gripping my She was
terrified and she was gripping my hands so hard, and
people were coming through, and he took on a persona
and it's really and he would he would say I
have Aunt Jade here, and somebody would raise their hand
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in the dark, say that's me. I can take that,
and then he would provide information and perhaps a woman
would be sobbing because she was connecting with her beloved aunt.
It was so fascinating. It was great. But I went
a couple of times and then I thought, Okay, I
believe it and I don't need to keep going, so
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I stopped, but I went enough that I believed it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Wow, that's very fascinating. Do you think that the animal
spirit world and the human spirit world are the same?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I do? I do. I mean, in other words, I
think when we cross, we can get them those who
are already there. I mean, I'm hope and I get
enough information from the other side that I feel like
I know they're okay. For example, in my book Billy,
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he died very suddenly, horrible colic. You know. The vet
came to our barn in Colorado, checked his gum, said
he's fine, and we were talking. I said, Gary, we're
going on vacation tomorrow. Can you look again, just in
case I need to bring him down for fluids. He
lifted his slip. He said, oh my gosh, his gums
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are gray. You need to bring him down immediately. That
was at ten in morning, and we had to put
him down. At one it went south.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I got to say goodbye. I got to get a
crystal and put it on his third eye, and I
carried in my pocket for months, and it came to
me in a dream. This was kind of on the
pre what I'm doing now. He came to me a dream,
so lifelike, so big, his whole face. I woke up
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and I said, he was really here. I really believe
that he was there, and I hadn't studied dreams. I
just knew he was really here and he's okay. So
I tell people ask for a sign, ask them to
come in a dream. They will. You've got to ask,
and you've got to like clear to your best ability.
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The sorrow, the grief. You won't, you know, move it
out completely, but try to be receptive to a sign,
and you will. You will get a sign, maybe not
right away, but once you detach, like a Buddhist way,
let go of the outcome, it'll come back. It will.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to remember that. Then look for signs.
I always forget to look for signs, and everybody always
says cardinal or like my aunt says, pennies. She finds
pennies are in the house because of her parents, who
to leave things around, and she finds them redomly and
odd places and things like that. I guess I've never
(33:02):
really paid attention after a loved one has passed to
see it. Yeah, yeah, there, yeah, that's probably.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yes for sure. A double and two parents A feather
for me. Feathers are enormous signs because they cut the
weirdest times, Like you know, there was one hanging from
a tree and you're on a hike and you literally
run into it. Right in twenty nineteen when Hurricane Dorian
(33:38):
hit the Bahamas, and that's you know where I have
a nonprofit and we didn't know if people were alive
or dead at the shelter because we knew it was
flooding right at the exact location, almost shelter. We went
on vacation and there was a ground level bathroom in
this weird tower and I sat down to the bathroom,
(33:59):
I looked out the window. There was a feather sticking
straight up in the grass, a big feather playing flat
where you could it was upright right, yeah, and you
can't make it up. And I kept finding feathers that
whole trip, in weird places, like we'd be walking through
a city and there'd be a feather on a step,
(34:20):
like you look up this staircase and there's a feather
and dark staircase, like they were everywhere. It just flew
my mind because it was a horrible, horrible hurricane, and
two hundred dogs died and people little city of Freeport
was decimated. They still haven't rebuilt down there.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Oh my gosh, that's terrible. I can't I couldn't imagine.
I could not imagine anything like that.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
If you've ever lived on the edge of a hurricane,
you know how terrifying it can be. And how you
have babe and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Now we're from Iowa, have that dealt with that. We
get tornadoes and we had a de Rachel a few
years ago that took out a bunch of things, but
no hurricanes for us.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
You probably go underground then, I would imagine in a
basement shelter. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, it's still it's still scary, but yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, getting back here, I lost my train of thought. Okay,
I think I'm back to it now. Can you tell
me about like what any kind of unseen energy or
(35:40):
thing of that nature? What are How do they influence
our lives? Like things that we can't see?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Well, I think they confide answers to our concerns. And
again it's experiential when I think has for help, and
some times I say that people, you don't have to
have a formal prayer or a plea or a pledge.
You can even say help and you get conserts. You
(36:10):
really do. So. I think spirit has our back. I
think that it opens up the magic of the spirit world,
which can create bless and joy and gratitude because we
can get so caught up in our mundane problems, health relationships,
(36:31):
all of that, that we forget that there's another realm
that's just waiting to help us out. You've really got
to some degree else and we have to be aware.
I don't want to say, work at it. It's not
study it, work at it. We have to have that
awareness and that desire to connect. And once you've got
(36:54):
those two things, lots shift. You know, a lot of
things can shift. But life is not easy. It isn't
It is not, and it's really really hard for a
lot of people. Really hard.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, Oh I get that. Like I connect,
I don't know that I connect, you know, with spirits
a lot of times. Sometimes I just don't know how
to shut it off. Just like that.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Well, if you're getting it all the time, it's running,
yeah she's laughing. But I mean you can't sometimes because
they want they are tapping and they want to be heard,
and you may have to set a boundary and say now, now, guys,
you know, come back in the morning when I'm a
little clear headed. I'm not one of those that gets
them constantly because I've got such an analytical brain from earlier.
(37:55):
I guess it's I am. I analyze every I'm learning
not to, but it's monkey mind. And if you can
quiet that, you really get some cool stuff. Yeah, yeah,
you really do.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Do you have Do you have any other books or
anything else that you have in the works.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Or I had two children's books that are in the way.
One I'm writing a breakout book about Romeo story for
children and the Mustang thing. And then when I we
rescued a wild burrow who's they're basically donkeys, but it
was on my it's kind of a COVID thing, like
(38:36):
we're going to be stuck here and you know, hunkering down.
I'm going to start researching it. So I went on
to the government b l M site and there was
a whole facility in Arizona, which when I thought back Colorado,
I got a yeah, but I got a hold of
(39:04):
he laughed, uh, oh, come back, Oh, there we go.
There was only one trainer in New Mexican, only one
person too gentle, he said, I've never gentle a donkey,
I'm going to go to Arizona and get four of them,
and he brought them back to his ranch. I went
and met them and I picked a different one than
(39:25):
I saw in the picture, and turned out she was
pregnant and we didn't know for sure, so we got
a hoofer. We got a little baby three years ago
who is the most mischievous, naughty, fun loving zeer Jenny.
They're called Jenny's. And I'm writing a book about Bella,
(39:48):
her mom and Luna. Hopefully I can pull it off
for children. And I am writing another book again.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Oh yeah, are you there.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I'm going to have this uh what I believe person
here who is coming in to stop messing unless it's
my internet, but we do have good internet in this room.
Writing another book that I probably don't want to dive
into right now, called Suicide in the Soul from some
(40:25):
personal family stuff as you might you know, surmonise. But
it's going to be a hard book. I've written a lot,
like ten thousand words, but I'm going to get it
out soon to help try to help people work that subject,
which is difficult for to talk about. So yeah, very.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Cool, very cool. Now do you with your communications and everything.
Do you have a way for people to contact you
if they want help with anything like that?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Or I have to what sites?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (41:02):
One is called Enlightened e N l I g h
T E N E D animals dot com and the
other is a breakout it's just about my psychic readings.
And that website is called www dot Psychic Journeys with
an s dot net. So that gives a lot of
(41:25):
detail about the psychic readings. Okay, even though it's on
the Enlightened Animal site, it gets lost because I do
have a lot of services. I have so many energy
energetic modalities. I blend UH custom flower crystal essences to
help with grief and with my pendulum. I just made
(41:48):
a really fun one today. And you know, I just
do a lot of things. I'm kind of a mixologist.
You Also, people can pick what they want, and once
you're in my pipeline, I'll do a quick check in.
I'll do a death and dying console just so I
can be available on quick notice for people who can't
(42:10):
make a decision like what should we do? Should we wait?
Sometimes the human can't wait if their animals is trying
to cross and they're suffering it's a gift, you know,
it's a gift we can give them. Sometimes it's not pretty,
you know when you watch your animal go it, it's
(42:30):
not fun.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
No, it's not fun at all.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah, I've been there, and.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, they're like our babies.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
They are. We really are.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Where where can people find your book and if you
want to let them know about when they purchase your book,
where this is going to work?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
So the best place I have of it just came
out this week, but I know for sure you can
go to Amazon dot com and find it is of
course a main shopping for many people. And I wanted
to tell all of you that I am donating all
one hundred percent of the profits to my personal non
(43:16):
profit in the Bahamas where that hurricane and many more
have struck since I started in twenty twenty one, I'm sorry,
two thousand and one. They're going to go to the
Humane Society of Grand Bahamas. So you know it's any
sales are going to go through my publisher, which is
Collected Ink in England, and they're going to keep track
(43:38):
and I have to put my bank account there, but
I'm going to put my nonprofit bank account. So I'm
going to see what comes in through book sales.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So it's kind of.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Fun to be able to really set it out or
all book sales, friends, you know, family, people that are
buying it. I'm going to know now you know how
many copies are being sold. And I'm again trying not
to attach because it will resonate with some people, and
some people might read it and say, oh, I don't
(44:07):
believe this at all, that these horses spoke through this
human being. Well fine, whatever your choice, you know, to
tune in that world or not. So totally, it's a
very freeing feeling to just be like the wind and
go about my life and whatever happens is meant to
(44:30):
be and you have to hang on to it and
worry about it and wonder. And I was doing that
in the beginning and like, what are you doing? Forget it?
Don't do that right, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, Well, I think it's very cool that the proceeds
are going to the society. That's that's a very cool
thing to be doing. So, you know, all of our
listeners out there, make sure you go check out Ellen's
book on Amazon dot com. You like the Wind, and
let's get all the proceeds are going to the yeah
(45:06):
society in the Bahamas.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Right, Grand Bahama Humane Society, and it's ninety five percent euthanasia.
Ye oh wow, five percent of all the animals. And
they can have up to four hundred dogs or two
to four hundred dogs if they're really crammed, and about
one hundred cats. So and they you know, rescue a
(45:31):
seagull or reptile, but by and large these and they're
very very special. We have a dog from there, she's
now thirteen. They're called potcakes. They name them after the
peas and rice that get stuck to the bottom of
the pot. They should have been called the rice cakes.
But my cake stuck three hundred years ago. So she's
(45:54):
a royal Behavian potcake. And she's a mut she's a streatment.
But they are not that all dogs aren't, but there's
something special. She's our second one. Our first one had
a sudden death, not pretty at all. He was very
sick and we didn't know it for different reasons. But
we had him eight years and we got him to heal,
(46:16):
so he had a good life, but it was very
sudden and bad in the day. But yeah, so it's
if you look up the old Bahamian pocknake. You'll see
how different and varied the dogs are. They're super special.
They really are full of gratitude. Again, not that all
(46:40):
dogs aren't, right, but she's different. She's really really I
can say she's sensitized to a level of survival beyond
you know, you're pure bread coming from the fancy breeder
them funny, but that's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
So oh there, I just looked them up. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Yeah, they're new, they're really cute, and they're all different.
They're all different, right hers. This one looks like a
shelty colleymix. She's got one hair and she's kind of
got a shelty face. But they can look like greyhounds,
(47:25):
they can look like labs. A lot of them have
shepherd in them, some have pommer. I mean I because
in the day when we lived in Denver, we were
doing puppy lists through my nonprofit. We had a lot
of people helping through Frontier and Delta getting them off island.
We do cargo flights to Fort Lauderdale and then Delta
(47:50):
Frontier would fly them to Denver and we would farm
them out. Tons of rescues and every begging for more potcakes.
I ran into a guy on a trail launch and
I looked at his puppy. I said, where'd you get
the puppy? And he said, poo her puppy rescue in
(48:10):
for Collins or somewhere northern Colorado. Is that a potcake?
Is that a behavian dog? And he said it is?
I said I can know, and he goes, and the
woman running the rescue she moved somewhere to Virginia. She
could not adopt them out fast enough that someone I
love them. Yeah, people really really love the potcakes. But
(48:33):
you know, now it's hard. Now, it's really hard unless
you did it privately. Like we can get a few
off the island with like well, Wings of Rescue has
been there during the hurricanes and flown hundreds, but otherwise
looking to the private pilots when they're on a flight
to take five at a times. It's helpful, but it
(48:56):
isn't twenty or thirty like we used to get. Yeah, yeah,
we used to really have a good role going. Can
you here's our girl?
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Oh my gosh, so cute, Oh my gosh, almost looks
like a box.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Yeah. She I don't know where she went yeah. Sheik.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Oh my gosh, that is a beautiful dog.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
She's really really gorgeous, very cute. Yeah, And I went
to the shelter to see the woman who runs it.
We're really good friends, and we're not quite ready. I
think we had three dogs, and she said, I've already
got one picked out for you. And she took me
over to this little pen and there were like eye
(49:43):
puppies in there, and I leaned over and she put
her paws up here, and I said, all right, And
she said, take her to the hotel for the weekend.
So I took her out to the resort and in
the middle of the night, she had had the runs
all over the rug and I dragged the rug to
(50:04):
the marina and she was with me, little five months old.
I turned around, she was gone, and I'm like, oh,
there were wild dogs in the village.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
She didn't eaten.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
So I ran back to our room and she was waiting.
She knew where to go for me, and I'd only
known her a few hours.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Oh my gosh, wow.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
And everybody was flipping over her.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Uh huh oh, yeah, I would be too. She is
a she's a beautiful still.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Is she's deaf? Now, but she's something else she can't hear,
and she slowed down a little, but she's still that
spirit in her.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, yeah, my gosh. Okay, Well, before we wrap things up,
I just want to thank everybody that was in chat tonight.
Thank you for joining us, thinking to everybody who was
not chat but listening, we always appreciate She hate each
and every one of you. We'll be back live next week.
We have a returning guest, Susan Plunkett. She's going to
(51:05):
talk about her new book next week, so check out
our social media for more details on that that's to come.
And then the following week we're going to have another
returning guest, Alora A. Laura. She's going to be talking
about vedic astrology, so stay tuned for that, and once again,
thank you. Yeah, any other books she wants to come
(51:27):
talk about, Yes, absolutely, so thank you Ellen for being on.
I loved hearing about all your communications. I mean, not
only with spirits, but for animals. I think that's very
that's a very cool thing, and I would like to
really learn, you know, a little bit more about that.
I mean I think I can tell kind of sometimes
(51:49):
you know, communicate with my animals a little bit, but
I don't think they actually talk to me. I just
body language wise, you know. But I find it very interesting.
I want everybody, all of our listeners, to please go
check out her book, be like the way you can
find it on Amazon. I just said her proceeds are
going to go to the Society. I can you talk.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Society, grand Bahama, grandfather.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yes. I keep forgetting the first part. I know the
other part, and then I'm like, I can't remember what
the word is. We will put her websites and everything
on our social media in the next couple of days.
So check out that. If you want to get a
hold of Ellen, find out more. If you want your readings,
if we want to learn how to communicate with your animals,
if you have problems with your animals, maybe she can
(52:37):
help you with that. We will have that information on
our social media as well. Now, do you have social
media besides your website?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
I do.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
I do. I'm learning to post post posts Instagram, LinkedIn.
I can't really I don't feel like I fit on LinkedIn.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But I don't know. I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
That's just such a corporate feeling to me. Corporate corporate
to me. But I'm doing it because again I'm paying it,
paying it forward. I want the word to get out
and people are fascinated by the whole. Wow. You know
we can do this too. We can hear our animals.
Yes you can, Yes, you can. You can, and you
(53:23):
can start at any age. You don't have to be
a child that has you know, maybe that's you when
you're hearing them and you can't turn them off.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
I have friends that were doing readings when they were
six years old. No that's not my story, but that's okay.
Might start. It's too like to change to something you're
just so excited about. You're going to do something that
passions you, I think, and that's what makes life worth living,
(53:52):
finding those passions.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, I think maybe I'll have a
little more bo Joe. All right, thank you, Yes, it
was an absolute pleasure having you on, and once again,
thank you everybody for joining us. Until next time, peace out, everybody.
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Speaker 2 (02:05):
Hello everyone, Happy Halloween and welcome to Rip Paranormal and Friends.
But we have a special guest for you tonight, A
little bit different topic for us. I think maybe once,
maybe about four years ago, we had something similar, but
I'm very excited for this. I think you guys will
all enjoy it. But I'm welcome Ellen Cone to the show.
(02:26):
She's an author. She has a book out called Be
Like the Wind, Three Crimes, Channel Spiritual Light. So thank
you for joining us tonight. Ellen.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, we are absolutely excited to have you as well. Now,
kind of give us a little bit of background on yourself.
How did you become an author and how did you
come up with this title for this book? Like, okay,
all come without.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I'm really this is my first book and it started
with my horse, Manty. So I rescued a lot of
animals in my life, and this horse was very broken
and starving, literally starving to death. And after seventeen years,
he was like a big dog. And we were out
riding and I jokingly said to him, what life advice
(03:19):
do you have for me today? And he said, be
Like the Wind. I was so taken aback. I pulled
out my phone and I wrote it down, and well,
maybe I'm supposed to write down these messages that I
get from him and the other horses that I've shared
my life with. And that was the genesis of the book,
because I do hear them, I do see their images.
(03:41):
I work in the animal communication field, so it's not
foreign to me, and I've been before that I was
I was trained as a healer, and then I did
really intense psychic training, so it all kind of started
to fit together that you joke around and you get
this phrase in your head that you say, where'd that
(04:03):
come from? And you know it's coming from him, not
for me, because I couldn't have even made that up.
So that's how the book got started, and it took
me eight years to get it done. I'd start, i'd stop,
I'd get things. I would say, you got to work
on the books. I would talk to them and get
new material, and then finally in twenty twenty three, I'm like,
(04:25):
all right, this is it. I'm going to do this,
and I started trying to organize it, which is a
part in the book that says spirit had its own
idea because I couldn't stick to an outline, and I
finally gave up said all right, as you guys, show
me how you want the book to look. And they did,
starting with their own stories and their own journeys and
(04:48):
their own traumas, and then they lead into how it's
kind of a self help you know, second part of
the book where they tell us in really simple language,
how does be in the world?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Very cool?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
So there, So, how did you find out that you
had these abilities or guests to communicate with the spirit
world or animals?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
How did that all come about?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
It came about my clients and my clients' animals, and
one in particular, horse many years ago, his owner said,
ask him how he hurt himself? And I did, Toby,
how did you hurt yourself? And I heard something completely
out of the blue that wasn't She and I were
thinking how he heard himself, which was in a clinic,
(05:39):
and said to her, I don't know where that came from.
And then I started asking people did I really hear that?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Yeah, you heard it. So then I started studying with
animal communicators, and in two thousand and seven I put
it out, all right, everybody send me your animals. I'm
going to talk to them. I don't care. I'm just
going to practice, and I feel your journal. And I
didn't charge anybody because I wanted to keep practicing. And
(06:06):
it started working. And I also realized I could see
inside people's houses I could see wallpaper, could see their kitchens.
I could see the big, huge old tree in the
backyard that had a bench, and I'm like this remote viewing.
So then I've done tracking lost animals, even though it's
(06:27):
really really hard and it doesn't always have a good ending.
For many reasons, I do it. Most of the time.
I try if I have enough bandwidth to really do
it for the person, or I give them some tools
to tune in to their own animal, because the animal
has to want to be found, has to want to
go home, and has to hear me say it's okay
(06:50):
to show yourself. That's our first step, so we know
where you are. And I doubt I'm a spiritual dowser.
I use pendulums and wands off and I can get
a direction where they're, where they're going, or where they
are in the moment, because they move around, so you're
tracking in. Yeah, you could be putting up the yellow
house where they peeked in back yard yesterday and there
(07:13):
are three doors down today. It's true, but I always
am willing to try because I just really try to
be of service. I really really do.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Right, have you come across an animal that really didn't
that had run away or something and didn't want to
go back to their YES members because maybe it was
not a good place for them to be.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yes. I have, especially cats, because if they gets spooped
off and they find a home where there isn't a
barking dog or somebody chasing them fence, there's a big
black lab growling at them, they don't want to go home.
They'll say sorry, I'm going somewhere I feel safe. And
it isn't necessarily about the good relationship they have with
(08:01):
their people. It can be something else. Or they run
off because they are something's going on and get hit
by a car so they don't go home, and I
have to be on to tell the person I'm really
really sorry, but your cat got killed by a car.
And but there's closure, there's closure.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
How do you deal with with telling somebody that their
pet doesn't want to come home?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Like?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
How carefully? Carefully? It happened a couple months ago where
the woman's mother in law's doodle was chasing hat all
over the yard and I got enough pictures of where
he went that she confirmed there was a church, there
was this, there was that, And I said, I think
he's being fed and I think he's safe, but I
(08:50):
also he does not want to come back. I mean
sometimes the human makes promises they don't.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Keep, right.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Yeah, yeah, I've had that happen where my neighbor in
Colorado had me talk to her show dog, who was
this gorgeous azsy and the Aussie did not want to
be a show dog. She wanted to hang out with
the three boys and be a buddy in the backyard.
And the said, all right, tell her if she gets
the championship, I'll retire her. She got the championship, and
(09:23):
the continued to show her.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Oh my gosh, she.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Broke her promise, right, I mean, you got to follow
through if you're going to do that and bargain with them,
Like everybody, you have to follow through. And I didn't
say anything because it's not my business, and you know
that's their contract. They got to work somehow.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah. Oh man, that's a bummer right there. Yep. Going
back to your book, be like the Wind is like
a book, like a channel book, and it's about like
three horses that are delivering this message correct, yes, through
a human. Right, can you tell us a little bit
more about what they say are how they want to
(10:13):
help us.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yes, So Monty, who was the one that gave the
first message, be like the wind. He followed a horse
named Billy, And when I looked back putting the book together,
Billy's messages were there way before I got anty, and
I didn't see it spiritually till I looked in hindsight.
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Billy was a spiritual wake up call. And then after
Monty named Romeo, who's still here, He's still alive. The
others and they are really telling us a few main things.
Be authentic, go within, look to the spirit world for
your answers. Find gratitude practice. Gratitude practice, you know, really
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stepping up and being the best version of yourself and
help the world. Because the whole beginning of the book
is their version of what we're doing to Earth, you know,
the rape, the competition, the districts that we're putting out
there all the time, and how they and how they're like,
you can't hide it anymore. We see what you're doing
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as humans, and it's causing construction not only of animals
but people and the beautiful planet. So they need with that,
like we know we see your rage, we see it
and we do have it. I have it at time.
I mean, I'm not a perfect human being, and but
when I feel it, I go there's that rage, you
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get it, get it under wraps, because you don't walk
around like that. So, yeah, they're very helpful because they're
so grounded and they're so connected to spirit, and they
do let the wind go. They do let dogs and
you know all animals let stuff go through them. But
I think courses are very forgiving. You know that when
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they have trauma, for sure, it needs to be unwound
and helped and healed. But they do heal. They can
heal all animals, right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah. Now when they are communicating, are they communicating through
like words or vision or how are they communicating?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I can hear them, I can see their pictures, and
I can feel the vibration sometimes where they're saying. Especially
with Monty, he really taught me a lot about fear
and when I came in with a fearful vibration, he
would pick up on it immediately. And life, don't come
near me. You know, I got enough my own. You
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can't project that onto me. So go through feeling like emotion.
They can go through a lot of clairvoyant psychic pictures
and part of the book is because they discussed their
past lives. You know, I get a picture like a
horse in the Crusades with rome I think it was,
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and I go, wow, tell me more about this which
king did you serve? And then he would tell me.
I would hear his words. He would unravel the story
of what he did in that past life. And it
was really helpful. And I could see it, like because
Romeo looks like a Spanish Andalusian horse, but he's an
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American coustang. But his lineage is clearly European, clearly physique,
his face, he just has another world kind of look
about him. And I get it now. It all makes
sense now with.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
These three horses, they all kind of have their own journey.
Can you tell us a little bit about each one
of their journeys?
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, Bill, who was in essence the first, even though
he came in after the book started. He was a
show horse and was not appreciated. He was very talented,
so they kept selling him and moving him on and
turning him over. He had no permanence, he had no person.
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He had blue ribbons, but it did not matter to him.
He didn't care. He wasn't one of those that wanted
to be that champion. So when I met he showed
me the hugest sense of humor by sticking his tongue
out like on command, like you tickle his nose, and
this tongue comes out like a dog. He laughing, and
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I said, wait a minute, this horse is really different.
So part of his journey was being himself and letting
out the showing and the performing and all this. Look
at that go he was beautiful, but it wasn't about
his beauty. It was about his personality. So he talked
about play and fun and not to be serious because
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I was young enough that I was kind of still
serious about what am I doing, and I was jumping
in and traj uh uh. He just wanted to have fun.
And then he was really a bag of bones, and
he was about healing the fear of humans and getting
over the abuse that he witnessed. I think they did
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a lot to him on the racetrack. And Romeo was
a captured is a captured mustang who came from the
range in California. Helicopter round up. If you read any
of that, it's the worst of the worst of the worst.
Way to capture animals is scaring them to death with
the giant monster in the air causing his dampede where
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they run over each other. They're freaked out beyond belief,
they get hurt, they die, they never see their families again,
and must be really bonded in families and then sent
off to a holding pen where right now, I think
our number in the country's over sixty thousand horses in
holding pens. Very few get adopted. They're going to sit
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there whole lives in some pen. They'll be fed, some
will be trained, but they won't have their lives. Their
lives are gone. So that's Romeo. And he had a
lot of stories about the prison because he lived in
a prison for twelve years and he was a trainer's horse,
so he met a lot of horses coming and going. Yeah,
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and when he's standing at the window right now, here's
me in the window. I tried to show somebody the
other day, but I'm not very savvy to turn my
computer and say, look, he's standing right here. But yeah,
and his story is magnificent because he is my heart worse,
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not that the others weren't, but he olds me around
like a dog. I could probably take him on a
walk down the road now and he'd just be walking
by my side, like, not even in a halter. We're
so connected.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
Wow, So that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Anyway, why do you think animals want to help humans
when humans can be so hurtful to them?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I think they have such a higher level of consciousness
that they can forgive us for what we're doing to
each other and to them and turn it around and say,
all right, I'm still here. Just turn to me and
I can help you. They want to help so much.
They want to serve, They want to be our companions.
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They're so loyal. They're so worst to use dogs that
are still wanting to have a master or a let's
not say mass. That sounds like ownership. We don't own them,
they don't own us. Have these companions to be in
that love space. You know, one thing I learned when
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I was writing the book because I did look up
the vibration of love, and I didn't know that love
has the highest frequency on the hurtz level of any
vibration out there. So if you can resonate with love,
and it isn't in love with a person or an animal,
it's walking in love and trying to be light. Then
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you're wearing a high vibration and you can let that
vessel of healing. It's very when you empty yourself and
you try to have mercy passion, you're you're walking for spirit,
to your spirit to use you as a vehicle to
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serve and help. It's really true. And I wasn't raised
like this at all, so I'm not spouting stuff that
I learned. It's all been experiential for me.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yes, this was very cool, very cool. Well, can I mean,
can anybody learn how to communicate with animals?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yes, yes you can. You know Smith have some great
books and a Twinny was writing for a while. She
was a tabletop dancer and she took that to a
pet psychic and she was so blown away that she
became an animal communicator and she has falled straight from
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the horse's mouth. It was one of the first ones
I read it. It's funny, it's light, and I all right,
if she can do it, anybody can do it. But
you want to have that passion and you want to
have persistence. Like anything in life, you're gonna fail, you're
gonna make mistakes, you're gonna screw up, you're gonna get
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it wrong or not, because maybe now I know what
I might be reading might be a past life, or
it happened to me where I've got two animals in
a picture, and I'm reading the one on the right
instead of one on the left because the run on
the right's talking. Oh you're not the one I'm supposed
to talk to, but you've got something to say, and
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you might not make sense of the information, but eventually
most people pull a thread or two or a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh, she jinks us. Remember we lost her, and she
literally just frosed. She talked, She talked about that. I'm
sorry everybody, but oh she just throws up. There we go.
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I was like, you jinxed us. You were talking about
how that happened to you the other day. You were talking.
I heard you, and the all of a sudden you
were just.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
But I couldn't see you. And I live in near
the mountains, so it's possible my internet, it's also possible
spirits messing. I would tend to that.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
That's too funny, because we were just talking about that
before the show started, and lo and behold that happens.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
It is hard to read your own animals. I'll give
you that we are so connected, we are so close.
I've been able to when I really, really really get quiet,
and of course now I've been doing it a long time.
And in the day, I remember a dog after we've
been away, and Tucker was sitting there and I'm like, whoa.
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I didn't hear him, but I knew he was saying
that house sitter was not okay the way his body
language was. And I found out he was, and he
was letting me know something wasn't right about her, and
I knew. I just knew it. And again I gave
your words, and I didn't see anything from him. I
just knew something. So those kinds of things happened too,
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where you just know, and that's right. Thanks for intuition
and we all have that.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Oh yeah, for sure. Now I know earlier you were
talking about you were a healer in things first, So
did you do work with actual human spirits prior to
the animal communication or.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I started with healing touch for animals because I met
a healer who worked with people, and she to work
on one of our kids and looked around, said, you
have so many animals you need to train in this
program for animals. So I did and then I worked
with reiki, and then I worked with another system which
right now is my main system called Meridian. It's mostly quote.
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And then as I said, I did psychic training for
seven years and every Wednesday we read for the public.
So I had a ton of practice for seven years.
And those I love those psychic readings.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh yes, I love.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
We read Your Rose, which is your now, like right now,
not tomorrow. We read two guest Lives, which gives so
much information about this lifetime, and re read seven Layers
of the Aura, which corresponds to your chakras, and all
the guides come in during those Any part of that
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reading can bring a guide in, and sometimes a third
past life will come in during the seven layers. But
there's always something that's a huge takeaway, like what is
the message from that past life for this life? And
it's fascinating. So and nothing is predictive, nothing is scary.
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It's not going to be you're gonna cut your finger
need stitches in five days. It's not that. How to
move energy in your life? And if there's something stuck,
I'm really tactful. Like I read a woman today and
she's a new widow and she's ready to date. And
I knew in the shower last night that her third layer,
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her solar plexus, was stuck. So I saw it in
the shower when I got there and I was reading her,
I said, Sue, you've got like one of those fishing nets,
a cast net where you threw to catch bait, and
it's like a filter. But we need to move it
out because it's preventing you from manifesting, you know, partner,
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new fun, new men. So that was the only thing
in her reading that was slightly like needed to be
pushed aside. And the rest was pretty strong because I'd
done a reading for right after her husband died, so
I saw the strength that had come in from six
months ago to today. But we were laughing. It was
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a lot of fun, and she, you know, she had
a rough go at the end when he was very
sick and all that. So it can really really help
people with stuff they're working on to you know, on
their personal journey.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Oh right, Yeah, for sure. I always thought about having
a reading. I just really haven't gone to do one yet.
So I'll gift you.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I'll gift you one. Will I will offer that as
a gift for a thank you for this. You need
about an hour and a half when your scheduled for minutes,
will do it?
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Okay, sounds good. Yeah, that I've never I've been kind
of scared to deal on. And but I'm like, well
maybe I just need to have one to see.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
What I now. Nothing scary, I promise you at the
first I tell people there's nothing to be scared of.
I mean, fairies can come in, you know, Merlin came
in for me recently. My guides and guides can change.
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Guides can come in and out and change form. And
one of the things I find so fascinating through all
the teachers I've found is my favorite expression right now,
is there are no rules. I've had teachers say to me, oh,
dogs reincarnate as dogs, people reincarnate, his people, cats reincarnation.
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I don't believe that. And he's a respective teacher. I
don't believe that. And I asked him other teachers what
do you think, and they're like, no. One woman came
through Santa Fe. She's not doing mediumship anymore. She told
me she had been a wooly mammoth. Oh wow, that's
how far back went.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I do remember having that question, Like I asked somebody
on the show a few years ago. I don't remember
what the response was, but that was what my things.
I'm like, if we're reincarnated, I mean, because when I
was younger, I always thought I was like, well, I
want to be reincarnated as this animal, you know, like
if I come back, I want to be this animal
or whatever. And I got to think, I'm like, can
that really be possible? But I can't remember. I don't
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know if Kim remembers what show or episode it was,
but I do remember asking that question. So I'm glad
that somebody else thinks that can happen besides me.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Well, and here's another thing. This same teacher, we used
to go to his house pre COVID and we'd sit
in different rooms and we would trade readings. And I
was reading a woman and she died not long after that,
and somebody came in and she said, you're describing my son,
but he's he's here, he's not in the spirit world.
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And then I read her a little further, that's my husband.
He's in the spirit world. The teacher came in and said,
the living don't come into these readings. Well, I mean,
it happened. How can you dispute that that I described
son who is here. So there's another example that it's experiential.
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It's different for everyone. If you study some of the
European mediums, and there's some really really famous ones that
come out of Holland at jwan Hoff in Scotland, the
Finlay Institute of that they have really strict rules and
they separate the psychic readings from the mediumship readings. Well,
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seems my world it's all mixed into one because I
get people sometimes I'll be doing a reading and I'll
say I see a little white dog, Well that was
my dog when I was a child. So you can't
make this stuff up, elson you cannot, You can't.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yeah, Well, we did an expo a few years ago,
was our very first one, and there was a gentleman
who was doing readings. But he would have animals come
through and like a lot of times he would start
like he would like start making the noise of the
animal and then say this is what I see, this
is what you know whatever, and this is what they're saying,
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or like if he had a spirit come through that
had an accent, he would like literally start talking in
that accent. I've never seen anybody else do that.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Yet it's fat. It's wonderful. It's wonderful.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
There was a guy that used to come. I think
he still comes to Santa Fe from Australia. And he
was a physical medium and it was called ecdoplasm. He
would go in a dark like closet and he was
strapped to the chair. You couldn't see him, black curtains.
It was like his seance. The room was dark. I
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went with one of my kids and his girlfriend, and
the girlfriend at the time was gripping my She was
terrified and she was gripping my hands so hard, and
people were coming through, and he took on a persona
and it's really and he would he would say I
have Aunt Jade here, and somebody would raise their hand
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in the dark, say that's me. I can take that,
and then he would provide information and perhaps a woman
would be sobbing because she was connecting with her beloved aunt.
It was so fascinating. It was great. But I went
a couple of times and then I thought, Okay, I
believe it and I don't need to keep going, so
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I stopped, but I went enough that I believed it.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Wow, that's very fascinating. Do you think that the animal
spirit world and the human spirit world are the same?
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I do? I do. I mean, in other words, I
think when we cross, we can get them those who
are already there. I mean, I'm hope and I get
enough information from the other side that I feel like
I know they're okay. For example, in my book Billy,
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he died very suddenly, horrible colic. You know. The vet
came to our barn in Colorado, checked his gum, said
he's fine, and we were talking. I said, Gary, we're
going on vacation tomorrow. Can you look again, just in
case I need to bring him down for fluids. He
lifted his slip. He said, oh my gosh, his gums
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are gray. You need to bring him down immediately. That
was at ten in morning, and we had to put
him down. At one it went south.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
I got to say goodbye. I got to get a
crystal and put it on his third eye, and I
carried in my pocket for months, and it came to
me in a dream. This was kind of on the
pre what I'm doing now. He came to me a dream,
so lifelike, so big, his whole face. I woke up
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and I said, he was really here. I really believe
that he was there, and I hadn't studied dreams. I
just knew he was really here and he's okay. So
I tell people ask for a sign, ask them to
come in a dream. They will. You've got to ask,
and you've got to like clear to your best ability.
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The sorrow, the grief. You won't, you know, move it
out completely, but try to be receptive to a sign,
and you will. You will get a sign, maybe not
right away, but once you detach, like a Buddhist way,
let go of the outcome, it'll come back. It will.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna have to remember that. Then look for signs.
I always forget to look for signs, and everybody always
says cardinal or like my aunt says, pennies. She finds
pennies are in the house because of her parents, who
to leave things around, and she finds them redomly and
odd places and things like that. I guess I've never
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really paid attention after a loved one has passed to
see it. Yeah, yeah, there, yeah, that's probably.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yes for sure. A double and two parents A feather
for me. Feathers are enormous signs because they cut the
weirdest times, Like you know, there was one hanging from
a tree and you're on a hike and you literally
run into it. Right in twenty nineteen when Hurricane Dorian
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hit the Bahamas, and that's you know where I have
a nonprofit and we didn't know if people were alive
or dead at the shelter because we knew it was
flooding right at the exact location, almost shelter. We went
on vacation and there was a ground level bathroom in
this weird tower and I sat down to the bathroom,
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I looked out the window. There was a feather sticking
straight up in the grass, a big feather playing flat
where you could it was upright right, yeah, and you
can't make it up. And I kept finding feathers that
whole trip, in weird places, like we'd be walking through
a city and there'd be a feather on a step,
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like you look up this staircase and there's a feather
and dark staircase, like they were everywhere. It just flew
my mind because it was a horrible, horrible hurricane, and
two hundred dogs died and people little city of Freeport
was decimated. They still haven't rebuilt down there.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Oh my gosh, that's terrible. I can't I couldn't imagine.
I could not imagine anything like that.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
If you've ever lived on the edge of a hurricane,
you know how terrifying it can be. And how you
have babe and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Now we're from Iowa, have that dealt with that. We
get tornadoes and we had a de Rachel a few
years ago that took out a bunch of things, but
no hurricanes for us.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
You probably go underground then, I would imagine in a
basement shelter. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Yeah, it's still it's still scary, but yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, getting back here, I lost my train of thought. Okay,
I think I'm back to it now. Can you tell
me about like what any kind of unseen energy or
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thing of that nature? What are How do they influence
our lives? Like things that we can't see?
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Well, I think they confide answers to our concerns. And
again it's experiential when I think has for help, and
some times I say that people, you don't have to
have a formal prayer or a plea or a pledge.
You can even say help and you get conserts. You
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really do. So. I think spirit has our back. I
think that it opens up the magic of the spirit world,
which can create bless and joy and gratitude because we
can get so caught up in our mundane problems, health relationships,
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all of that, that we forget that there's another realm
that's just waiting to help us out. You've really got
to some degree else and we have to be aware.
I don't want to say, work at it. It's not
study it, work at it. We have to have that
awareness and that desire to connect. And once you've got
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those two things, lots shift. You know, a lot of
things can shift. But life is not easy. It isn't
It is not, and it's really really hard for a
lot of people. Really hard.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, Oh I get that. Like I connect,
I don't know that I connect, you know, with spirits
a lot of times. Sometimes I just don't know how
to shut it off. Just like that.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
Well, if you're getting it all the time, it's running,
yeah she's laughing. But I mean you can't sometimes because
they want they are tapping and they want to be heard,
and you may have to set a boundary and say now, now, guys,
you know, come back in the morning when I'm a
little clear headed. I'm not one of those that gets
them constantly because I've got such an analytical brain from earlier.
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I guess it's I am. I analyze every I'm learning
not to, but it's monkey mind. And if you can
quiet that, you really get some cool stuff. Yeah, yeah,
you really do.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Do you have Do you have any other books or
anything else that you have in the works.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Or I had two children's books that are in the way.
One I'm writing a breakout book about Romeo story for
children and the Mustang thing. And then when I we
rescued a wild burrow who's they're basically donkeys, but it
was on my it's kind of a COVID thing, like
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we're going to be stuck here and you know, hunkering down.
I'm going to start researching it. So I went on
to the government b l M site and there was
a whole facility in Arizona, which when I thought back Colorado,
I got a yeah, but I got a hold of
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he laughed, uh, oh, come back, Oh, there we go.
There was only one trainer in New Mexican, only one
person too gentle, he said, I've never gentle a donkey,
I'm going to go to Arizona and get four of them,
and he brought them back to his ranch. I went
and met them and I picked a different one than
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I saw in the picture, and turned out she was
pregnant and we didn't know for sure, so we got
a hoofer. We got a little baby three years ago
who is the most mischievous, naughty, fun loving zeer Jenny.
They're called Jenny's. And I'm writing a book about Bella,
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her mom and Luna. Hopefully I can pull it off
for children. And I am writing another book again.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Oh yeah, are you there.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
I'm going to have this uh what I believe person
here who is coming in to stop messing unless it's
my internet, but we do have good internet in this room.
Writing another book that I probably don't want to dive
into right now, called Suicide in the Soul from some
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personal family stuff as you might you know, surmonise. But
it's going to be a hard book. I've written a lot,
like ten thousand words, but I'm going to get it
out soon to help try to help people work that subject,
which is difficult for to talk about. So yeah, very.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Cool, very cool. Now do you with your communications and everything.
Do you have a way for people to contact you
if they want help with anything like that?
Speaker 4 (40:57):
Or I have to what sites?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (41:02):
One is called Enlightened e N l I g h
T E N E D animals dot com and the
other is a breakout it's just about my psychic readings.
And that website is called www dot Psychic Journeys with
an s dot net. So that gives a lot of
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detail about the psychic readings. Okay, even though it's on
the Enlightened Animal site, it gets lost because I do
have a lot of services. I have so many energy
energetic modalities. I blend UH custom flower crystal essences to
help with grief and with my pendulum. I just made
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a really fun one today. And you know, I just
do a lot of things. I'm kind of a mixologist.
You Also, people can pick what they want, and once
you're in my pipeline, I'll do a quick check in.
I'll do a death and dying console just so I
can be available on quick notice for people who can't
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make a decision like what should we do? Should we wait?
Sometimes the human can't wait if their animals is trying
to cross and they're suffering it's a gift, you know,
it's a gift we can give them. Sometimes it's not pretty,
you know when you watch your animal go it, it's
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not fun.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
No, it's not fun at all.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah, I've been there, and.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, they're like our babies.
Speaker 4 (42:39):
They are. We really are.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Where where can people find your book and if you
want to let them know about when they purchase your book,
where this is going to work?
Speaker 4 (42:55):
So the best place I have of it just came
out this week, but I know for sure you can
go to Amazon dot com and find it is of
course a main shopping for many people. And I wanted
to tell all of you that I am donating all
one hundred percent of the profits to my personal non
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profit in the Bahamas where that hurricane and many more
have struck since I started in twenty twenty one, I'm sorry,
two thousand and one. They're going to go to the
Humane Society of Grand Bahamas. So you know it's any
sales are going to go through my publisher, which is
Collected Ink in England, and they're going to keep track
(43:38):
and I have to put my bank account there, but
I'm going to put my nonprofit bank account. So I'm
going to see what comes in through book sales.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
So it's kind of.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
Fun to be able to really set it out or
all book sales, friends, you know, family, people that are
buying it. I'm going to know now you know how
many copies are being sold. And I'm again trying not
to attach because it will resonate with some people, and
some people might read it and say, oh, I don't
(44:07):
believe this at all, that these horses spoke through this
human being. Well fine, whatever your choice, you know, to
tune in that world or not. So totally, it's a
very freeing feeling to just be like the wind and
go about my life and whatever happens is meant to
(44:30):
be and you have to hang on to it and
worry about it and wonder. And I was doing that
in the beginning and like, what are you doing? Forget it?
Don't do that right, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Yeah, Well, I think it's very cool that the proceeds
are going to the society. That's that's a very cool
thing to be doing. So, you know, all of our
listeners out there, make sure you go check out Ellen's
book on Amazon dot com. You like the Wind, and
let's get all the proceeds are going to the yeah
(45:06):
society in the Bahamas.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Right, Grand Bahama Humane Society, and it's ninety five percent euthanasia.
Ye oh wow, five percent of all the animals. And
they can have up to four hundred dogs or two
to four hundred dogs if they're really crammed, and about
one hundred cats. So and they you know, rescue a
(45:31):
seagull or reptile, but by and large these and they're
very very special. We have a dog from there, she's
now thirteen. They're called potcakes. They name them after the
peas and rice that get stuck to the bottom of
the pot. They should have been called the rice cakes.
But my cake stuck three hundred years ago. So she's
(45:54):
a royal Behavian potcake. And she's a mut she's a streatment.
But they are not that all dogs aren't, but there's
something special. She's our second one. Our first one had
a sudden death, not pretty at all. He was very
sick and we didn't know it for different reasons. But
we had him eight years and we got him to heal,
(46:16):
so he had a good life, but it was very
sudden and bad in the day. But yeah, so it's
if you look up the old Bahamian pocknake. You'll see
how different and varied the dogs are. They're super special.
They really are full of gratitude. Again, not that all
(46:40):
dogs aren't, right, but she's different. She's really really I
can say she's sensitized to a level of survival beyond
you know, you're pure bread coming from the fancy breeder
them funny, but that's just my opinion.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
So oh there, I just looked them up. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
Yeah, they're new, they're really cute, and they're all different.
They're all different, right hers. This one looks like a
shelty colleymix. She's got one hair and she's kind of
got a shelty face. But they can look like greyhounds,
(47:25):
they can look like labs. A lot of them have
shepherd in them, some have pommer. I mean I because
in the day when we lived in Denver, we were
doing puppy lists through my nonprofit. We had a lot
of people helping through Frontier and Delta getting them off island.
We do cargo flights to Fort Lauderdale and then Delta
(47:50):
Frontier would fly them to Denver and we would farm
them out. Tons of rescues and every begging for more potcakes.
I ran into a guy on a trail launch and
I looked at his puppy. I said, where'd you get
the puppy? And he said, poo her puppy rescue in
(48:10):
for Collins or somewhere northern Colorado. Is that a potcake?
Is that a behavian dog? And he said it is?
I said I can know, and he goes, and the
woman running the rescue she moved somewhere to Virginia. She
could not adopt them out fast enough that someone I
love them. Yeah, people really really love the potcakes. But
(48:33):
you know, now it's hard. Now, it's really hard unless
you did it privately. Like we can get a few
off the island with like well, Wings of Rescue has
been there during the hurricanes and flown hundreds, but otherwise
looking to the private pilots when they're on a flight
to take five at a times. It's helpful, but it
(48:56):
isn't twenty or thirty like we used to get. Yeah, yeah,
we used to really have a good role going. Can
you here's our girl?
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Oh my gosh, so cute, Oh my gosh, almost looks
like a box.
Speaker 4 (49:13):
Yeah. She I don't know where she went yeah. Sheik.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Oh my gosh, that is a beautiful dog.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
She's really really gorgeous, very cute. Yeah, And I went
to the shelter to see the woman who runs it.
We're really good friends, and we're not quite ready. I
think we had three dogs, and she said, I've already
got one picked out for you. And she took me
over to this little pen and there were like eye
(49:43):
puppies in there, and I leaned over and she put
her paws up here, and I said, all right, And
she said, take her to the hotel for the weekend.
So I took her out to the resort and in
the middle of the night, she had had the runs
all over the rug and I dragged the rug to
(50:04):
the marina and she was with me, little five months old.
I turned around, she was gone, and I'm like, oh,
there were wild dogs in the village.
Speaker 2 (50:13):
She didn't eaten.
Speaker 4 (50:14):
So I ran back to our room and she was waiting.
She knew where to go for me, and I'd only
known her a few hours.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
Oh my gosh, wow.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
And everybody was flipping over her.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
Uh huh oh, yeah, I would be too. She is
a she's a beautiful still.
Speaker 4 (50:32):
Is she's deaf? Now, but she's something else she can't hear,
and she slowed down a little, but she's still that
spirit in her.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, yeah, my gosh. Okay, Well, before we wrap things up,
I just want to thank everybody that was in chat tonight.
Thank you for joining us, thinking to everybody who was
not chat but listening, we always appreciate She hate each
and every one of you. We'll be back live next week.
We have a returning guest, Susan Plunkett. She's going to
(51:05):
talk about her new book next week, so check out
our social media for more details on that that's to come.
And then the following week we're going to have another
returning guest, Alora A. Laura. She's going to be talking
about vedic astrology, so stay tuned for that, and once again,
thank you. Yeah, any other books she wants to come
(51:27):
talk about, Yes, absolutely, so thank you Ellen for being on.
I loved hearing about all your communications. I mean, not
only with spirits, but for animals. I think that's very
that's a very cool thing, and I would like to
really learn, you know, a little bit more about that.
I mean I think I can tell kind of sometimes
(51:49):
you know, communicate with my animals a little bit, but
I don't think they actually talk to me. I just
body language wise, you know. But I find it very interesting.
I want everybody, all of our listeners, to please go
check out her book, be like the way you can
find it on Amazon. I just said her proceeds are
going to go to the Society. I can you talk.
Speaker 4 (52:13):
Society, grand Bahama, grandfather.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yes. I keep forgetting the first part. I know the
other part, and then I'm like, I can't remember what
the word is. We will put her websites and everything
on our social media in the next couple of days.
So check out that. If you want to get a
hold of Ellen, find out more. If you want your readings,
if we want to learn how to communicate with your animals,
if you have problems with your animals, maybe she can
(52:37):
help you with that. We will have that information on
our social media as well. Now, do you have social
media besides your website?
Speaker 1 (52:44):
I do.
Speaker 4 (52:45):
I do. I'm learning to post post posts Instagram, LinkedIn.
I can't really I don't feel like I fit on LinkedIn.
Speaker 2 (52:57):
But I don't know. I don't understand it.
Speaker 4 (53:00):
That's just such a corporate feeling to me. Corporate corporate
to me. But I'm doing it because again I'm paying it,
paying it forward. I want the word to get out
and people are fascinated by the whole. Wow. You know
we can do this too. We can hear our animals.
Yes you can, Yes, you can. You can, and you
(53:23):
can start at any age. You don't have to be
a child that has you know, maybe that's you when
you're hearing them and you can't turn them off.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
You know.
Speaker 4 (53:31):
I have friends that were doing readings when they were
six years old. No that's not my story, but that's okay.
Might start. It's too like to change to something you're
just so excited about. You're going to do something that
passions you, I think, and that's what makes life worth living,
(53:52):
finding those passions.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, I think maybe I'll have a
little more bo Joe. All right, thank you, Yes, it
was an absolute pleasure having you on, and once again,
thank you everybody for joining us. Until next time, peace out, everybody.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Thank you,
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