October 2, 2025 • 54 mins
Rebroadcast of : Kevin Killen . Author "Ghost and ME"
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another night of Rap Paranormal Friends. Kim is out sick tonight,
so I am going to be flying solo, but we
are bringing back a returning guest. We have Kevin Killing
back on tonight. If you guys don't remember, he was
on and talked about his book Ghosts to Me. But
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Kevin has also had a lot of paranormal experiences throughout
his whole life. He's a Native Virginian that had paranormal
experiences as early as his childhood in his home in
Falls Church. Kevin is also a multi award winning former
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journalist and now works with developmentally disabled individuals and in
the past worked with recovering addicts. He now resides on
the Eastern Shore of Maryland, where he continues to write
and experiences about the paranormal.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So tonight we welcome back Kevin. So welcome.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Thank you Allison for having me. It's good to be back.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh yeah, absolutely, it's it's been a hot minute.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah, I think it's actually been three years.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I'm pretty sure it has been. Yeah, and you've been
on a couple of times, and it seems like every
time you come on, we have some kind of weird
thing that happens, either something with the video or the
sound or something.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think last time actually at
the end, the setup was different and there was something
that went behind both of you guys.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It was something white. Oh yes, that it went behind you.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Guys in the background, and Kim had said that she
had actually felt something.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yes, yeah, and that was at her house and so
now we have kind of swapped and now doing it
at my house.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So but but yeah, so let's kind of do a.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Rec up for some of our new listeners if you
can kind of tell us how this all came about
with your paranormal experiences, Like what was your first experience?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Absolutely, My first experience was when I was about five
years old. I was living in Evanston, Illinois, and the
rest of my family had gone out somewhere. I think
they went to Saint Louis for a game. My father
was a journalist and he took my brothers with them,
so it was just me and my mother and I
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remember we had these you know, wooden floors and this
big old we had this big old house that was
turn of the century. It just looked, you know, it
looked haunted. Yeah. So I had heard footsteps when we
were downstairs eating and I turned to my mother and
I said, who's that And she was scared. She thought
somebody broke in, and she said, oh, that's my little boy.
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So I was like, well, I'm the only little boy
in this house, so who's upstairs walking around? So that
was my first experience, but I distinctly remember it was
definite footsteps.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
On a wooden floor, creaky wooden floor.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
And I've had experiences ever since and I still have
them to this day, which is intriguing.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Now, in your book goes to me kind of a
recap for some of our new listeners. You kind of
talk about your journey and your life and how you've
had all these paranormal experiences in all these different places
that you have lived.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Why do you think spirits are attracted to you.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
I think I have a one of those personalities that
kind of attracts people. And I think, really honestly, if
you look at my background after the journalism part, I've
actually been with substance abuse and now I work with
developmentally disabled individuals and you have to have a certain
kind of personality to work with all of those those groups,
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and I do have it.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
As a matter of fact.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
One of my boss said the other day, I have
that get along with any one personality, and I think
that kind of works. So it basically, yeah, I just
I think that, and I'm almost one hundred percent Irish.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
So are you there? Hello?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh, here we go. I jinxed it.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Asked down in my family somewhat.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You cut out there, so I didn't hear any of that.
I was like, oh no, I jinxed it with the
sound thing I heard Irish and then you were gone.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I got it. Did you hear the stuff before that?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I heard this stuff before that, but when you got
to Irish, you just completely We're gone.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Okay, okay, yeah, I just saw that. I was like, oh,
here we go.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yeah, And it was actually funny because right before that happened,
I actually heard some sort of noise in the corner.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Of my room. So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, they like to participate, and you know, I kind
of let them, but I was saying, yeah, I'm almost
one hundred percent Irish. So I think that my Celtic
background is one of the main reasons that I do
attract spirits, and also I think it was passed down.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Generationally in my family.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Unfortunately, I was never that, I was never verified, and
I wish I was able to talk more with my
family members about that because I do believe some of
them actually did have something and they just, you know,
they kind of suppressed it because it was you know,
back in the day when you couldn't you know, come
out and say you saw ghosts or heard things because
it was just frowned upon.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I agree with you that you know, this can be
passed down because it seems like in my family there's
a history of it too, especially.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
On my mother's side. They were all kind of aware
of those things.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
My grandma.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Was always ask me if I was going out looking
he called him spooks. He's like, are you going out
looking for spooks? He would give me articles, here's a
new place you could go check out or whatever. But
also my cousin is a spirit magnet and she's kind
of like you. Everywhere she moves, she has some kind
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of spirit that is there with her, and it's just
I don't know what it is. It's just something on
my mother's side. So I can agree with you. I
think that sometimes, you know, generations can have something, some
kind of ability that they passed down or something.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
To that effect.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Absolutely, And like I said, I think with mine it
was on my mother's side as well.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Uh huh, weird. That's crazy. Now, have you ever had
a negative attachment?
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Yes, when I was in school, college, I was just
finishing up my junior year of college and I was
actually at the time, and I go into this in
the book, I was dating a witch. Yes, yeah, and
uh so we actually we had a seance with some
friends of ours that I really didn't believe in the paranormal,
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and something came through that that session, and it wasn't
good and it attached itself to me, and my personality
totally changed. Now, if you watch a lot of these
ghost shows and everything, and some of them talk about
the demonic part of like the possession part, and I
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don't usually ever use that, but if I had to,
I was at the oppression stage and I knew something
was off, and it was just I was. I was
just in a miserable place. And they started having weird
things happened to them. The one girl's boyfriend, this bike,
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her appliances would go on the fritz. My girlfriend would
have bad things, weird things happened to her. And again,
I was to the point now where I was I
didn't want to talk to anybody.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I was dark.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
I literally shut myself off, and I could just feel
like if you ever had a wet blanket thrown over
you That's kind of what.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It felt like.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
The darkness was just enveloping me to that point, and
I was like, we got to do something here. So
we were lucky enough to close the portal, but whatever
came through that day that was nasty.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I don't know if I've ever had a negative attachment
per se, but I do know that, you know, I
have had attachments, and it does change change my attitude
and my personality. And people that don't see me all
the time would say, step to my mom, like, WHOA,
what's different with Alison?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
She is not the same person. Mom's like, yep, nope,
she's not. Just let it ride, don't it, don't pass.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
But you know, she kind of knows when I have
some kind of attachment or anything like that. So yeah, yeah,
Now have you ever investigated a residence that you lived in?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, actually a couple of them.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
I was able to do that, and I caught my
first EVP in the childhood home I grew up in
in Falls Church, which is really neat and scary at
the same time. And again this is back in the
nineties when again this was still you know, you really
couldn't come out and say, oh, my house is haunted
because people will still think you're crazy. I mean, you
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still have that level today, but not as much. It's
a little more mainstream. But back then you couldn't really
come out and say these things because again you were
labeled a nut and this and that and right and everything.
But it was actually kind of neat. The house that
I grew up in had a lot of negativity attached
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to it just because of the people that came through.
I referred to it as a very sad house because
it really did have just it was just a very
sad house. And this one day, I had actually been
reading a book about EVP captures and everything, and I
was like, oh, hey.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Cool, I'm gonna go ahead and try this.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
So I went ahead, and I was in in my
bedroom and everybody was gone, and I decided, okay, well
I'll just pop a tape in, you know, and go
ahead and record and ask them, you know, hey, if
there's anything here, show me. And I went out and,
you know, let the tape run for that. I think
it was a sixty minute tape. So I let it
run for the hour and came back and played it
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through and right at the end, there was like some
some like I had one of those big detachable speaker
boomboxes use the double you know, dub cassettes, and it
sounded like somebody was drumming on top of it, and
I was like, what the heck is this? And then
right at the very end, this voice came through and
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said I have shown you ha ha, And it was
like really slow motion if you slowed down somebody's voice,
and it was really creepy scary, and I literally like
ran out of the house because it's you know, I
don't know what this thing was or whatever, but it
really scared the hell out of me.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
But that was my first EVP capture.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Wow, that's awesome. And to do it on you know cassette,
I actually have. My mom gave me my old stereo
that has the separate speakers and it's got the dual cassette.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I just have to rewire the speakers.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And I'm hoping that maybe sometime we could take it
on an investigation and try it out.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And see what happened.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Oh, that'd be cool. You're going to get something, I
can tell. I have a feeling. I have a feeling
you're going to get something.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Oh, I hope so and when you talk about getting
a voice in slow mo. Kim, we actually had that happen.
I think it was maybe two years ago at Edinburg Manor.
And the weird thing is is there was like five
of us there and only three of the five of
us caught it on our recorder. I cut it on
my recorder and my camcorder. We were down by the
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boiler room and we were standing on the stairs and
we heard it with our ears say come here or
something like that, and we're like, if we don't want
to come down there, you know, like one of the
gals say that. As we're backing away from that spot
and on there in slow mo, there's it. I don't
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know if it's a child or what, but it's it's loud.
We just can't understand exactly what it's says. We can't
sit tell if it's saying something about a black hole
or do you want to crack corn? Because it's so
slow mo that it's hard to understand.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But it's it's loud, and we're like, what the hell
is that.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I've never caught an EVP that was like that in
slow mo like that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah, And it, like I said, with that being my
first one, I didn't know what it was, so it
really scared me. Oh yeah more because again I again
it was there was nobody in the house, so you
couldn't turn the tape down.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
There was no way to do that.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
And you couldn't do that on those tapes anyway because
of the way the cassettesra said it. You could do
it with a handheld, but you couldn't do it with
those kind But yeah, this was just like like somebody
slowed it as slow as you could go and I
have shown you hahuh. And that was my first EVP capture.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Wow, that's insane. Have you gotten anymore since then?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I've had a few, But honestly, some of them were inconclusive.
And the reason I say that is because I can
kind of I look back and I can debunk, like
I do a lot of cemetery work, and yeah, and
there's like it's the one that I go to that's
close to my house that I've really gotten some good stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
It's close to the road, so some of it are is.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Definitely like cars, but I've gotten some interesting things. When
I was in a house in Pennsylvania, I recorded I
was it was an old mine mining house built for
the miners, and I let it run down in the basement.
These houses were probably I don't know, they were probably
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twenties or thirties, but I had the When I ran it,
it was like in the morning, so everybody was at work,
there was nobody home. But I clearly distinctly heard the
cracking of wood, like somebody was busting up wood, and
I was like, there's no one here but me and
the cat, and the cat's not down there doing this, right,
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And then I thought, okay, maybe it was somebody next
door because they were like fairly close. But yeah, I
don't know what that was. But I put it for
my girlfriend and she was just like, where'd you get this?
I said, down in our basement and she's like, oh, okay,
And we didn't even have any wood down there, So
I don't even know what that was, but it was
kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Maybe it was some kind of residual thing that maybe
they used to do something down there with wood or something.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Back in the day, and maybe you're getting something from that.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I don't know, that's just weird.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, yeah, Now, have you ever worked somewhere that you.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Believe was haunted.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
As a matter of fact, before I moved down here
to the eastern shore of Maryland, I was working for
Fairfax County, Virginia a residential substance, a use residential building,
and we housed, you know, fifty five recovery people and
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I caught a lot of stuff. I worked the night shift,
so I got a lot of good stuff. And what
was cool about that place is that I actually had
a lot of coworkers had stuff happened to them, So
I was getting, you know, verified, because I'd say, hey,
I heard this, and I'd have somebody say did you
hear this?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Or I heard this over here? I saw this.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
And actually my supervisor, my immediate supervisor, worked with me
one night and for some reason, it just kind of
went crazy and all sorts of stuff happened, and she's like, Kevin,
I'm never working overnight again, and she never did. She
was so scared that she never worked in overnight the
year and a half I was left there before I moved.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Oh wow, that's that's that's pretty intense.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Then, Oh my gosh, I can't say that I have
worked in a place that's haunted.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Kim does.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Kim works in a Redemption Center, and there are definitely
a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
One of them I have seen a woman, a younger
woman in her twenties. But yeah, I think that would
be I don't know. I think it'd be kind of
interesting to work in a place. But then again, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Especially in the dental field, I don't need like dental
tools and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Going haywire, like drills and stuff like. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
That might be a bit much.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But it's still it'd still be fun that I could
bring my paranormal stuff and do some sessions.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Oh absolutely, Yeah, that that would really be cool.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
The plays I work at currently is a really big,
big building, and my supervisor I see. And the thing
is that I it's not that I'm I'm a shame.
I love the fact that I've written a book, but
I try not, you know, because I don't know people
react sometimes, so I kind of keep it under wrapped
a little bit. So I never told anybody at work
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until maybe a month month, and I haven't I've been
there almost a year now. And my supervisor was, oh,
my god, that is so cool, and she ordered it,
which was really cool, And I had some coworkers do that.
But she said, have you seen or heard anything here?
And I said, I really have not, because I'm never
in the building alone. But I told her there's overwhelming
feelings in certain spots in this building that I can
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just it's you just know something's there. It's just the
energy is just so overwhelming in certain spots. I'll get
headaches and such, but I won't. I haven't seen or
heard anything, but I guarantee you if they were allowed,
if they let me go to do a investigation, I
know I capture stuff, but my the executive director, is
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a very stern form of principle.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I wouldn't even bother. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even bother.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Asking them because he'd be like no. But yeah, I
have feelings though, definitely. And she's like, and she said
the same thing. She's like, yeah, I get feelings in
certain places too. And most of the people that work
there are female. Oh, very very There's not a lot
of males that work in that day program. So I
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think there's there's a lot of energy. There's just a
lot of a lot of energy in that building.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Huh interesting, Yeah, I can see though, I mean your place, yeah,
bigger buildings like that stuff that you've got going on.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
People can probably bring stuff in with them as well.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But then for you, you know, you said that you
kind of keep it under wraps as to you have
written a book about you.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Know, paranormal and your experiences and things like that. I
keep I at this job too, I've kept it under wraps.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
But they kind of figured it out put two together.
It's like, okay, but it is what it is, you know,
because you just never you never know.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I mean, it's it's becoming one of those things where
people are more success you know, susceptible of it, like
they accept it, but then you have those other ones that.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Are just like, oh what, she's freaking batshit crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
You know exactly. Yep, absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Kind of getting to that point in my life where
I just don't care.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, I'm pretty much there too. Yeah,
it's just like, you know, to do some of the
things that I've done in my life, I've already I
already know I'm crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
I'm okay with that's okay.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yep, me too.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
You know, I hung out in cemeteries. I'm all right right.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now? Do you think okay? You have had.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Like I said, You've had all these experiences growing up
in things. Now, do you believe that a lot of
these experiences that you're having are with intelligent spirits or residual.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
I think a little bit of both.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Honestly, It kind of depends on really what the situation is,
because I've had a lot of contact with residual and
I've actually had a lot of contact with intelligence that
I've actually interacted with me, which is kind of neat,
or I've actually seen them and you know whatever.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
So I've had a little bit of both. It just
kind of depends like.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Where I've been and what exactly I'm doing as far
as you know, buildings or whatever the land I'm in.
But yeah, I've had a little bit of both, not
really one more than the other, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Okay, Now, do you believe that these places are haunted
before you get there?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Are?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Do you think that some.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Of these spirits are following you from place to place?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Now?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
See, that's a really good question because what I try
to do, Like when I pass the cemetery, I say
you cannot follow me. I mean I drive, I passed
the cemetery every day. Every day I go to work
and I do that. And I've been in the car
with my girlfriend and she's like, why do you do that?
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And I said, well, do you want do you want
me to give you something? She's like, no, I've already
had that experience. And you know, you know I don't
want any of your people. You can keep them and
take them home with you. I said, that's exactly why
I do this. So I think they've learned at this
point in time, if you're respectful to them, and I
try to be that, they won't follow me.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
They're already there.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
But I'm kind of like they're kind of like, you know,
the the whole the dog with the squirrel. You know,
the dog will be doing something the squirrel and they're like,
oh squirrel and they're running. So when I hit the
wherever I'm at, they're like, oh, human can see and
hear me, and then they go so yeah, it's it's
just kind of I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I think I put in my book is.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Like I feel like I'm at the vacancy in the
motel the little Neon sign and it's like, okay, you
know I can see spirits, you know, come here. So
they see that and they're like, oh, here's a beacon,
so we'll go over there and mess with him because
he can see and hear us.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
So do you do you classify yourself as anything.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Like a sensitive or medium, our clear audience, curve voyants, whatever,
any of those.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
I think in some regard, yes, I may have a
little bit of all of that, but I'm definitely I
know I am a mpath.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I definitely know that.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
And sometimes when I have really hard days at work
because I'm picking up everybody's emotions. Yeah, yeah, people don't
quite understand when I'm dragging. There's a reason for that.
Not because I get up at four in the morning,
that's part of it, but when everyone's hitting me at
the same time and my wall's not working, they I can't.
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It's really hard to explain to people I'm getting their emotions.
And again, and it's nothing against what I love women,
but they have such strong emotions that coupled with the
developmentally disabled, when they get angry, look out so their emotions.
So I'm getting hit from all sides. So it's really
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I've come home and literally just felt so drained that
I don't even know how I made it home, because
you know, they just they just took all my energy.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I concur with that a lot. But you talk about,
you know, your wall not working and things. Do you
practice that like trying to put up a wall, a
barrier or anything.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yes, yes, I do try to do that, to put
that wall up so it won't come in. But well,
on the times that I don't, I forget, and then
that's when it hits me and I, oh, crap, I
forgot to do that, and now I'm paying for it
because I've got a huge headache and I feel like
someone just sucked the life out of me.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I am very terrible about doing that. So like I
it's something I've.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Work on, but I forget a lot of times and
then all hell breaks loose, especially on an investigation.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Oh yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, But like what what do you do to prepare yourself?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
How do you prepare putting up a wall? Like what
do you envision?
Speaker 6 (27:54):
I kind of like meditate and then envision the wall.
I just it's usually it's kind a brick wall. It's
just a big gray, gray I guess a slab of
concrete is how I best describe it. It's really nondescript.
It's just a big piece of gray whatever. But I'll
imagine that and then I'll try to imagine the white
light around me has more protection and that usually, like
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I said, that usually helps a lot. But like you said,
the times that I forget to do that, that's when
they say, oh, I'm in here, and then I'm just
a mess and people don't understand it and I have
to make stuff up because I was just like, oh,
I'm just really really tired today, had to it, you know,
got up early, and because I can't explain it to
(28:39):
them because they're gonna be like, Okay, I'm gonna walk
over here and keep an eye, you know, and it's
just it's and I don't have the energy to explain
it to them after all that, but yeah, it's but yeah,
I try to envision that wall or the that in
the white light, and that usually helps.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Do you ever have to go outside and like ground yourself.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Yes, yes, that's something that I've actually learned to do
much more recently than before. And I actually had another
friend of mine who's a Claire audience, teach me techniques
on how to ground yourself because I really wasn't into that.
But and again, one of the things that I did,
(29:22):
and what really always grounded me was nature. And I've
gotten away from doing that because again with my line
of work and everything, and that's an excuse, and I
know that I hate that, but I got away from
getting out in the woods and just hiking or just
enjoying nature that always grounds me.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I need to do that too more often, another thing
I'm terrible at and people scold me for on locations.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Now, with you having these abilities, do you ever find
yourself channeling?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
No?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
No, I've never done that.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
And I think the reason I have it is because
of that experience that I had with the negative attachment,
because that was basically a channeling session and that was
with five other people and I I kind of and
and again, as you well know, and a lot of
people you know. And I've got a brother of mine
that does not believe in any of this. And we
(30:27):
will go back and forth because we talk about how
bad the world is today, but he doesn't accept that
there's real.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Evil out there. Oh.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
He says that, oh, I can see that this and
that we'll talk about certain things going on, but he
doesn't understand that things can come through the portals and
this and that I bring that up and he just
makes fun of it, or he just tells me I'm
nuts and this and that. But yeah, and it's just
so so again. I think until I could maybe learn
(30:57):
some techniques that I wouldn't get something in there. I
probably wouldn't. But honestly, I I probably channel without even
knowing it.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah you could.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I just have to say that all of a sudden,
like I am like extremely cool and have goosebumps.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Well, when you moved, I didn't see I saw a
baby behind you, and I was like, what the hell?
Oh okay, oh my god, I said, you got a
baby ghost behind her.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Oh my gosh. I would probably crap myself up that happened.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
I got goose pumps when I looked at that, and
I was like, what, Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, I know I inherited those from.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
My grandpa's house, so that's cool.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
One of home's actually this one here, oops, I'm this
one is actually from Kim's house. It was her it
was her mom's.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Oh wow, let.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
My girls pick out a doll from her house because
she has she.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Has over two hundred and two of these things in
that house.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And anyways, my oldest one is terrified at dolls, but
yet she picked this doll out and now I have
to keep it in here because she wanted something to
remember her.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But she can't be around it because she's terrified at dolls.
So so it's it stays in here.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, I tell people, and I don't know if you
if you've seen this or not, but there was a
great movie back in the seventies called Trilogy of Terror.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I have not seen it. I've heard of it, but
I have seen it.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Oh you've got to see it because the last one,
the last movie. I'm not going to give it away.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
No spoiler alerts here, because everyone's got to get scared.
But this woman gets a doll from Africa from her
mother and the necklace falls off of it and it
comes to life and it's possessed by a demon. So
here's a doll in an apartment with a woman and
it's a lie. I saw that as a kid, and
it still scares the hell out of me today.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
But yeah, so they did. They did remake in.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
The two thousands from it, but it's not as good
as the original. The original, you know, cheesy seventies cinematography.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
I mean, come on right.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I started watching some of those older ones recently because, like, what,
just a couple of years ago, I finally watched the
original Exorcist.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I was like, some of those I have never seen,
Like I haven't seen Psycho.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I do have it.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh, I do have a bunch.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Of Alfred Hitchcock ones save to watch. But you know,
I just remember the scene from that, but I haven't.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I have not watched those. It's like, oh my gosh,
I need to get with Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I just actually watched The Birds last week.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
The Birds.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Did you say the Birds? Oh? Yeah, the Birds. I
watched that last week.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah Hitchcock, yep, yeah, okay, yep. I did watch that
one night.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah, the Bird. Yeah, the Birds.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Like I said, The Burbs with Tom Hanks.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
At first, I was like, what you just watched that.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
That's a good movie too, getting off topic, but you know,
dolls and creepy and then you know, getting the chills
was kind of brought it all together.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Horror movies. He they all tie in, and they all.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Tie in, They all tie in.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Now, are you working on anything new right now or.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
What's any new books?
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
I am actually so so. I don't think I told
this story. Last time I was on your show, or
actually any of the times I've been on your show.
Before my book came out in twenty nineteen, I had
the widow Maker heart attack.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Okay, and obviously I didn't die, right, Yeah, but I did.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
As I was getting worked on, this feeling came over
me of just ultimate peace and quiet, and I said
to myself, if I have to go, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
I'm ready.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
So luckily, for whatever reason, I'm still here. So I
had a friend of mine. I said, Kevin, you had
an NDE and near death experience. I said no, I said,
but that feeling was just calm and peaceful.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
She said, you had.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
One, And I started thinking about that. So I started
doing research and I was like, you know, all these
people I came across, all these people who would have
had the same near death experiences or different ones. So
that always fascinated me. So I'm putting the finishing touches
on a compilation book about near death experiences.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh wow. Cool.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So what I'd like to do, if possible, is I
want to ask your audience, because again I'm always looking
for good stuff. If they have any, send them my way.
They don't have to put their name in. It can
be anonymous, but uh, I can always use more stories.
(36:03):
So if any of your audience has them out there,
they can send them my way if they like.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Oh yeah, absolutely so, listeners, if you have any near
death experiences or stories that you'd like to share about that,
contact Ken. I do have some of you could possibly
reach out to. He's been a guest on our show.
He is from the UK. But David Ditchfield, he has
(36:29):
a very interesting near death experience story.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's truly I don't know. I don't even know how
he's still alive, honest.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Wow, I want to talk to him.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
You have to that Ditches like, is that like Ditches
in ditch Like?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, ditch.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
He's on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Ditchfield.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
He's on Instagram ditch Field.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Excellent.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, that's one that I've had on here that's had
a really good story. I've had other people on talking
about near death experiences, but it's more like they're studying
it per se.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
And so there's a website. I'll have to look it
up and send it to you.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
There's a website that one of my other listeners told
me about where he found a lot of interesting stories
so there might be like I don't know, if there's.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Like an area where they maybe all concur together and
like talk about it or what, or if there's a
way that you can find out who wrote some of
them and like you could reach out to some of
those people to share their stories with you, because it's
like a website that they share their near death experiences
or something on.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
So I'll have to look it up. I haven't written somewhere,
but that might help you out.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Also, yeah awesome. Yeah, like I said, I'm putting the
finish touches with that.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I've been working on this for about a year and
a half now almost two years, so wow. But like
I said, I can always use more stories. So I
like to reach out to the to the audience out
there because I know those are the ones that always
have good stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Oh yeah, and I can.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Always use good stuff, more good stuff, and a lot
of these that I've gotten so far just amazing. Do
you But like I said, I'm still fascinated by it.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh yeah, do you have I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Do you have a website or where do you want
them to contact you?
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Oh, they can send it to my email.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
The cake Kalen. Yeah, they can send it to the email.
That'd be great, Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I will. I'm going to put it in our chat.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
So anybody who's listening and, like I said, has a
near death experience and you want to share it with.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Kevin, check out our chat. I'm going to put his
email in there.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
But we'll also share it on our social media as well.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
On I'll have it on Instagram and Twitter. I don't
have Facebook, so.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
If I can find my email, I don't know where
it went I have.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
This is ridiculous, Okay, So I have over one hundred
and three tabs opened on my phone?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Oh wow, how did you do that?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I don't I don't know. I think it's just because
I hord pages. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I'm afraid I'm going to lose something or forget something,
so I just keep all the tabs open.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I've got a coworker does that.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
They've got like five million tabs on their computer open
up at any time. Oh? I like, how do you
ever find anything? Or you can't do any work here
because you slow your computer down some of those things.
She's like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm afraid I'm going
to do this and I need this, and I'm like, no,
you don't. Yeah, but yeah, she's easy because the it
(40:01):
guy is always yelling at her. Oh because he's just yeah,
because she's just you know, messing up her computer because
it's all slow and everything and uh huh.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah. So I understand that. I know, but I.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Don't have that problem with my computer. The only time
I've ever on this is if I'm doing a show.
I don't use it for anything else. But it's just
my phone has everything open.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I'm scrolling through looking for stuff all the time. All right.
So I did share that information in the chat.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Awesome, thank you.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, absolutely, does anybody in chat have any have any questions?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Let me know. Feel free to put him in the
chat and I will ask Kevin.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Now do you have I mean, have you had any
recent experiences like.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Oh, that's yeah, that's one thing I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
So a lot of my recent experien speriences have to
do with what I consider transcendence. And the reason I
call it transcendence is because I've kind of moved I
don't want to say I've moved away, but there's a
lot less of the hey, I'm here, I'm gonna, you know,
footsteps in the hallway or door slamming or whatever. I
(41:18):
still get those. As a matter of fact, I just
had one yesterday right when I woke up to go
to work. There's something that mentioning here, and I don't
have pets, so there was that. But what I've been
having a lot of is I see triple numbers. I've
seen quadruple numbers, and I'll do that. I'll think of
somebody I haven't thought of it in a while. They'll
(41:40):
call or text me or something, or I'll think of
an obscure band I haven't heard from in years, and
I'll play a song on the radio wo or just
I'll think of somebody and somebody like something will happen
and I'll be like my earro start itching and then
I'm like, somebody's talking about me, because that's how it is.
And then I'll get a text or call from somebody
(42:02):
and it's like that was you. So I got a
lot a lot of that, And I also get the premonitory.
I'm getting a lot of premonitions lately, and I haven't.
I usually never do that, but I've gotten a lot
of premonitions and that's really kind of freaked me out
because I usually that was never me. But I've gotten
premonitions that I don't know if they've come to Actually
(42:25):
a couple of them from work came true.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
So yeah, So I've been getting a lot of that.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
And I've actually had somebody something happened and they were like,
didn't you mention that last week?
Speaker 5 (42:36):
And I was like, yeah, I did. How'd you know?
I said, I can't tell you.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
So I have a lot of that going on, but
that it's it's like, and that's why I say I
kind of transcended, because I get a lot more of
that than I do. And it's almost as if they're like, Okay, yeah,
we know you can see us, we can you can
hear us.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
You know, we're kind of bored.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
With you, you know whatever. But yeah, I still get things.
I've been seeing a lot of animals lately, Like I'll
see it, I'll think of a deer and there'll be
a deer in the road.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Since the deer and I've.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Done that a lot, I forgot what my spirit animal is.
But I kind of live in a really wooded area
and there's a really nice bond and everything, so there's
a lot of animals around here that kind of flock over,
and I've noticed, like the neighbors will kind of look
at me, like why does he have all these birds
in his yard or you know whatever, because they they
(43:31):
I guess they kind of notice that the animals, I
think are a little attracted to me. So there's that, Yeah,
there's that. But yeah, I mean I still I still will.
Like I said the other day, my father, And that
was one of the things I was going to tell you.
One reason I haven't been on much or been around
much because my father passed last year, and so.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
I've had a lot.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
I've had three people pass and I just had a
lot of you know, light, a lot of life stuff
I got.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I got COVID twice so and I moved here from Virginia.
So there's been a lot going on.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
But the reason I bring up my father is my
father I think was with me for a month and
then he passed on.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
He moved on to wherever they go.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
But I think he was with me for about My
mother was with me for a while when she passed.
One of my one of my brothers, who passed about
four years ago, he just went across there was nothing,
and I had other people tell me I think he's gone.
I said, I know he is, because there was one
little incident and then he was gone. I was I
knew it was him, and I said, that's him, and
(44:42):
I was it and he just went.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
But and I I kind of looked.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
At that like thinking, Okay, with all my abilities and everything,
why wouldn't they stay around and talk to me or whatever?
Speaker 2 (44:52):
But yeah, I don't know, must be ready to go.
Yeah around here anymore?
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Now do you have Do you ever have.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Somebody who is passed come to you in dreams, like
they have a message or something for you, and they
come to you in a dream state.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Yeah, I've dreamed. The one thing with me is that
my dreams never make any sense. I've had so many
weird dreams that just I And the one thing I've
had lately is it's almost as if I'm either it's
like it's happened and I'm watching it, but I don't know,
(45:42):
I don't know where these who these people are. It's
like and I've had some that I swear to God
were like was like a TV show, Like I was
in a TV show and I knew I was in
a TV show, but I was just kind of watching,
not participating.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
And I was like, these are crazy.
Speaker 6 (45:59):
But the reason I bring that up is because I've
had dreams of people that I've known that have passed
with no message.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
But I just dreamed they just did stupid stuff, and
I was like, well, wait a minute, why are they
in there eating a pizza plunging out the toilets?
Speaker 4 (46:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
It was like, yeah, so there's no message here. It's
just oh wow, I dreamed of So and So's mom
who passed ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Yeah, so that's kind of the They never have any messages.
They just kind of show up.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, mine too, they don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
I've had some weird ones too, And like you said,
you have some dreams and you don't.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Even know who the people are. And it's like a
lot of my dreams, I don't know who any of
these people are in my dreams.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Are they people that I'm gonna cross paths with at
some point or or what.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
It's bizarre exactly, Yeah, because I just know I've researched
dream interpretation and talked to some people who have actually
done that, and they've always they've told me that it's
you know, usually dreams are part of things that have
already happened. But I'm thinking, I don't even know these people,
(47:08):
so if it happened, where was I because I have
no idea who these people were.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Ya.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
That's another topic that I would like to have.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
To do on the show, is somebody who can interpret dreams.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
Because yes, yes, that's fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah it is, because it's like, what in the.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
Hell that'd be a good show?
Speaker 2 (47:31):
What did I?
Speaker 5 (47:32):
You know?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
But but sometimes I think that TV can also hinder
what we dream about.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Because I was watching Maximum Overdrive one night.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Instead of these crazy trucks, you know, killing people, I dreamt.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
That I was somehow controlling.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
These people to kill people and I didn't know why
I was doing it.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
And then I don't remember who it was like, had
this like thing in cased in a crystal or whatever,
and I came to it and I shattered it, and
then they got all mad because it shattered, and they're like,
now you have to hold it and you have to
say that you're not gonna kill people anymore for to stop,
and I was like, so I did it, and then
that was.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
My dream and I'm like, what just when on here?
Speaker 4 (48:27):
So sometimes I think what you watch on TV can
kind of.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
Oh. Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
I think there's something that goes into the cognitive ability
because I usually and what I what I do, And
I don't know if this is influencing me or not.
Is I fall asleep to audio books? Okay, so maybe
that's what this is. That but I never dream about
what's in these books. But it's just like we're like
(48:56):
you said, I'll dream about people I don't know. And
I remember one time I distinkly knew that I was
a ghost, like in this dream, I was a spirit
and they couldn't see me, and I kept like trying
to talk to them and they're like, wait a minute,
I am, but I had like the wherewithal to know
that I was a ghost in this dream.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
But it was really weird. And these people I had
no idea who they were. I didn't know any of them.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Wow yeah, I yeah, Like I said, probably about ninety
five percent of my dreams are people I don't even
know are I don't have any recollection of ever.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Seeing them in public or yep. Anything. It's bizarre, not
on TV. Nothing. It's like I don't know where they
came from.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
I did have a dream about aliens coming to try
They were coming.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
After my daughters.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Oh we were at a party somewhere and they were
out running and I was like, where did they go?
And there was these weird like spacecrafts coming down and
then one of them stopped and they said.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
They were looking for my children. I don't know. It
was so weird. So I spent my dream trying.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
To to tell them that they needed to get to
a safe place because the heliens were gonna say.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
That, Wow, that's interesting, weird.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
I don't know AnyWho.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Once again, okay, so before we start to wrap things up,
you still have your your book for sale?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
They can Is it still on Amazon?
Speaker 5 (50:35):
And probably Amazon?
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Probably, yeah, pretty much any any dot com and I
think most of them still have them out the shelf.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
So you can go to a brick and mortar.
Speaker 6 (50:50):
And you can order them from Ozark Mountains website the publisher.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay, perfect, Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't remember the.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
It's been a while since i've I've read it, so
it's like I cann't remember remember who the publisher was,
but yes, Ozark Mountain.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Now if anybody has any questions or anything like that.
Do you want them to email you or do you
have social media that they could get in touch with
you with.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Yeah, they can just email me. And like I said,
they they it doesn't even have to be ghost related.
They you just email me about anything. I just like
to talk. So they just want to talk about you know,
Uncle Bob's cigar habit or whatever.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
That's fine too, Yeah, yeah, anything.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
You know, I just like to talk and I've done
a lot of things, so you know, crop me a
line and just say hey, and we'll chat about whatever.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
It doesn't have to be about ghosts or anything.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Do you have do you.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
Have kind of rough date as to when your new
book might be out?
Speaker 6 (51:56):
Right now, it's probably going to be in next year,
just because because once I get it to the publisher,
it usually takes close to.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
Another year for it to come to come out. So
it's probably going to be twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Okay, perfect, So I can update.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
I can send it to you when I have a
firm date on that.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Oh yeah, absolutely, that way we can we can share
it and let all our listeners know when that book
will be out.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
And like I said, once again, if any.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Of our listeners have a near death experience that they
would like to share with Kevin.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
I did put his email in the chat, so you
can check it out in the.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
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Just in time for Valentine's Day. Everybody. Jannine Lowe will
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With wealth how to come into some wealth. So check Yeah,
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so I am going to be flying solo, but we
are bringing back a returning guest. We have Kevin Killing
back on tonight. If you guys don't remember, he was
on and talked about his book Ghosts to Me. But
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Kevin has also had a lot of paranormal experiences throughout
his whole life. He's a Native Virginian that had paranormal
experiences as early as his childhood in his home in
Falls Church. Kevin is also a multi award winning former
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journalist and now works with developmentally disabled individuals and in
the past worked with recovering addicts. He now resides on
the Eastern Shore of Maryland, where he continues to write
and experiences about the paranormal.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
So tonight we welcome back Kevin. So welcome.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Thank you Allison for having me. It's good to be back.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Oh yeah, absolutely, it's it's been a hot minute.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah, I think it's actually been three years.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I'm pretty sure it has been. Yeah, and you've been
on a couple of times, and it seems like every
time you come on, we have some kind of weird
thing that happens, either something with the video or the
sound or something.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think last time actually at
the end, the setup was different and there was something
that went behind both of you guys.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
It was something white. Oh yes, that it went behind you.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Guys in the background, and Kim had said that she
had actually felt something.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yes, yeah, and that was at her house and so
now we have kind of swapped and now doing it
at my house.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
So but but yeah, so let's kind of do a.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Rec up for some of our new listeners if you
can kind of tell us how this all came about
with your paranormal experiences, Like what was your first experience?
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
Absolutely, My first experience was when I was about five
years old. I was living in Evanston, Illinois, and the
rest of my family had gone out somewhere. I think
they went to Saint Louis for a game. My father
was a journalist and he took my brothers with them,
so it was just me and my mother and I
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remember we had these you know, wooden floors and this
big old we had this big old house that was
turn of the century. It just looked, you know, it
looked haunted. Yeah. So I had heard footsteps when we
were downstairs eating and I turned to my mother and
I said, who's that And she was scared. She thought
somebody broke in, and she said, oh, that's my little boy.
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So I was like, well, I'm the only little boy
in this house, so who's upstairs walking around? So that
was my first experience, but I distinctly remember it was
definite footsteps.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
On a wooden floor, creaky wooden floor.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
And I've had experiences ever since and I still have
them to this day, which is intriguing.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Now, in your book goes to me kind of a
recap for some of our new listeners. You kind of
talk about your journey and your life and how you've
had all these paranormal experiences in all these different places
that you have lived.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Why do you think spirits are attracted to you.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
I think I have a one of those personalities that
kind of attracts people. And I think, really honestly, if
you look at my background after the journalism part, I've
actually been with substance abuse and now I work with
developmentally disabled individuals and you have to have a certain
kind of personality to work with all of those those groups,
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and I do have it.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
As a matter of fact.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
One of my boss said the other day, I have
that get along with any one personality, and I think
that kind of works. So it basically, yeah, I just
I think that, and I'm almost one hundred percent Irish.
Speaker 5 (06:14):
So are you there? Hello?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh, here we go. I jinxed it.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
Asked down in my family somewhat.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
You cut out there, so I didn't hear any of that.
I was like, oh no, I jinxed it with the
sound thing I heard Irish and then you were gone.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I got it. Did you hear the stuff before that?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
I heard this stuff before that, but when you got
to Irish, you just completely We're gone.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
Okay, okay, yeah, I just saw that. I was like, oh,
here we go.
Speaker 6 (06:49):
Yeah, And it was actually funny because right before that happened,
I actually heard some sort of noise in the corner.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Of my room. So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Yeah, they like to participate, and you know, I kind
of let them, but I was saying, yeah, I'm almost
one hundred percent Irish. So I think that my Celtic
background is one of the main reasons that I do
attract spirits, and also I think it was passed down.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Generationally in my family.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Unfortunately, I was never that, I was never verified, and
I wish I was able to talk more with my
family members about that because I do believe some of
them actually did have something and they just, you know,
they kind of suppressed it because it was you know,
back in the day when you couldn't you know, come
out and say you saw ghosts or heard things because
it was just frowned upon.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
I agree with you that you know, this can be
passed down because it seems like in my family there's
a history of it too, especially.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
On my mother's side. They were all kind of aware
of those things.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
My grandma.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Was always ask me if I was going out looking
he called him spooks. He's like, are you going out
looking for spooks? He would give me articles, here's a
new place you could go check out or whatever. But
also my cousin is a spirit magnet and she's kind
of like you. Everywhere she moves, she has some kind
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of spirit that is there with her, and it's just
I don't know what it is. It's just something on
my mother's side. So I can agree with you. I
think that sometimes, you know, generations can have something, some
kind of ability that they passed down or something.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
To that effect.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
Absolutely, And like I said, I think with mine it
was on my mother's side as well.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Uh huh, weird. That's crazy. Now, have you ever had
a negative attachment?
Speaker 6 (08:56):
Yes, when I was in school, college, I was just
finishing up my junior year of college and I was
actually at the time, and I go into this in
the book, I was dating a witch. Yes, yeah, and
uh so we actually we had a seance with some
friends of ours that I really didn't believe in the paranormal,
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and something came through that that session, and it wasn't
good and it attached itself to me, and my personality
totally changed. Now, if you watch a lot of these
ghost shows and everything, and some of them talk about
the demonic part of like the possession part, and I
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don't usually ever use that, but if I had to,
I was at the oppression stage and I knew something
was off, and it was just I was. I was
just in a miserable place. And they started having weird
things happened to them. The one girl's boyfriend, this bike,
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her appliances would go on the fritz. My girlfriend would
have bad things, weird things happened to her. And again,
I was to the point now where I was I
didn't want to talk to anybody.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I was dark.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
I literally shut myself off, and I could just feel
like if you ever had a wet blanket thrown over
you That's kind of what.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
It felt like.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
The darkness was just enveloping me to that point, and
I was like, we got to do something here. So
we were lucky enough to close the portal, but whatever
came through that day that was nasty.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I don't know if I've ever had a negative attachment
per se, but I do know that, you know, I
have had attachments, and it does change change my attitude
and my personality. And people that don't see me all
the time would say, step to my mom, like, WHOA,
what's different with Alison?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
She is not the same person. Mom's like, yep, nope,
she's not. Just let it ride, don't it, don't pass.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
But you know, she kind of knows when I have
some kind of attachment or anything like that. So yeah, yeah,
Now have you ever investigated a residence that you lived in?
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Yeah, actually a couple of them.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
I was able to do that, and I caught my
first EVP in the childhood home I grew up in
in Falls Church, which is really neat and scary at
the same time. And again this is back in the
nineties when again this was still you know, you really
couldn't come out and say, oh, my house is haunted
because people will still think you're crazy. I mean, you
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still have that level today, but not as much. It's
a little more mainstream. But back then you couldn't really
come out and say these things because again you were
labeled a nut and this and that and right and everything.
But it was actually kind of neat. The house that
I grew up in had a lot of negativity attached
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to it just because of the people that came through.
I referred to it as a very sad house because
it really did have just it was just a very
sad house. And this one day, I had actually been
reading a book about EVP captures and everything, and I
was like, oh, hey.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Cool, I'm gonna go ahead and try this.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
So I went ahead, and I was in in my
bedroom and everybody was gone, and I decided, okay, well
I'll just pop a tape in, you know, and go
ahead and record and ask them, you know, hey, if
there's anything here, show me. And I went out and,
you know, let the tape run for that. I think
it was a sixty minute tape. So I let it
run for the hour and came back and played it
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through and right at the end, there was like some
some like I had one of those big detachable speaker
boomboxes use the double you know, dub cassettes, and it
sounded like somebody was drumming on top of it, and
I was like, what the heck is this? And then
right at the very end, this voice came through and
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said I have shown you ha ha, And it was
like really slow motion if you slowed down somebody's voice,
and it was really creepy scary, and I literally like
ran out of the house because it's you know, I
don't know what this thing was or whatever, but it
really scared the hell out of me.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
But that was my first EVP capture.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Wow, that's awesome. And to do it on you know cassette,
I actually have. My mom gave me my old stereo
that has the separate speakers and it's got the dual cassette.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I just have to rewire the speakers.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
And I'm hoping that maybe sometime we could take it
on an investigation and try it out.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And see what happened.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Oh, that'd be cool. You're going to get something, I
can tell. I have a feeling. I have a feeling
you're going to get something.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Oh, I hope so and when you talk about getting
a voice in slow mo. Kim, we actually had that happen.
I think it was maybe two years ago at Edinburg Manor.
And the weird thing is is there was like five
of us there and only three of the five of
us caught it on our recorder. I cut it on
my recorder and my camcorder. We were down by the
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boiler room and we were standing on the stairs and
we heard it with our ears say come here or
something like that, and we're like, if we don't want
to come down there, you know, like one of the
gals say that. As we're backing away from that spot
and on there in slow mo, there's it. I don't
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know if it's a child or what, but it's it's loud.
We just can't understand exactly what it's says. We can't
sit tell if it's saying something about a black hole
or do you want to crack corn? Because it's so
slow mo that it's hard to understand.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
But it's it's loud, and we're like, what the hell
is that.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I've never caught an EVP that was like that in
slow mo like that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's crazy.
Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah, And it, like I said, with that being my
first one, I didn't know what it was, so it
really scared me. Oh yeah more because again I again
it was there was nobody in the house, so you
couldn't turn the tape down.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
There was no way to do that.
Speaker 6 (15:38):
And you couldn't do that on those tapes anyway because
of the way the cassettesra said it. You could do
it with a handheld, but you couldn't do it with
those kind But yeah, this was just like like somebody
slowed it as slow as you could go and I
have shown you hahuh. And that was my first EVP capture.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Wow, that's insane. Have you gotten anymore since then?
Speaker 6 (16:00):
I've had a few, But honestly, some of them were inconclusive.
And the reason I say that is because I can
kind of I look back and I can debunk, like
I do a lot of cemetery work, and yeah, and
there's like it's the one that I go to that's
close to my house that I've really gotten some good stuff.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
It's close to the road, so some of it are is.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Definitely like cars, but I've gotten some interesting things. When
I was in a house in Pennsylvania, I recorded I
was it was an old mine mining house built for
the miners, and I let it run down in the basement.
These houses were probably I don't know, they were probably
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twenties or thirties, but I had the When I ran it,
it was like in the morning, so everybody was at work,
there was nobody home. But I clearly distinctly heard the
cracking of wood, like somebody was busting up wood, and
I was like, there's no one here but me and
the cat, and the cat's not down there doing this, right,
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And then I thought, okay, maybe it was somebody next
door because they were like fairly close. But yeah, I
don't know what that was. But I put it for
my girlfriend and she was just like, where'd you get this?
I said, down in our basement and she's like, oh, okay,
And we didn't even have any wood down there, So
I don't even know what that was, but it was
kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
Maybe it was some kind of residual thing that maybe
they used to do something down there with wood or something.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Back in the day, and maybe you're getting something from that.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
I don't know, that's just weird.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, yeah, Now, have you ever worked somewhere that you.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Believe was haunted.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
As a matter of fact, before I moved down here
to the eastern shore of Maryland, I was working for
Fairfax County, Virginia a residential substance, a use residential building,
and we housed, you know, fifty five recovery people and
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I caught a lot of stuff. I worked the night shift,
so I got a lot of good stuff. And what
was cool about that place is that I actually had
a lot of coworkers had stuff happened to them, So
I was getting, you know, verified, because I'd say, hey,
I heard this, and I'd have somebody say did you
hear this?
Speaker 5 (18:26):
Or I heard this over here? I saw this.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
And actually my supervisor, my immediate supervisor, worked with me
one night and for some reason, it just kind of
went crazy and all sorts of stuff happened, and she's like, Kevin,
I'm never working overnight again, and she never did. She
was so scared that she never worked in overnight the
year and a half I was left there before I moved.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Oh wow, that's that's that's pretty intense.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Then, Oh my gosh, I can't say that I have
worked in a place that's haunted.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Kim does.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Kim works in a Redemption Center, and there are definitely
a couple of them.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
One of them I have seen a woman, a younger
woman in her twenties. But yeah, I think that would
be I don't know. I think it'd be kind of
interesting to work in a place. But then again, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Especially in the dental field, I don't need like dental
tools and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Going haywire, like drills and stuff like. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
That might be a bit much.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
But it's still it'd still be fun that I could
bring my paranormal stuff and do some sessions.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Oh absolutely, Yeah, that that would really be cool.
Speaker 6 (19:44):
The plays I work at currently is a really big,
big building, and my supervisor I see. And the thing
is that I it's not that I'm I'm a shame.
I love the fact that I've written a book, but
I try not, you know, because I don't know people
react sometimes, so I kind of keep it under wrapped
a little bit. So I never told anybody at work
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until maybe a month month, and I haven't I've been
there almost a year now. And my supervisor was, oh,
my god, that is so cool, and she ordered it,
which was really cool, And I had some coworkers do that.
But she said, have you seen or heard anything here?
And I said, I really have not, because I'm never
in the building alone. But I told her there's overwhelming
feelings in certain spots in this building that I can
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just it's you just know something's there. It's just the
energy is just so overwhelming in certain spots. I'll get
headaches and such, but I won't. I haven't seen or
heard anything, but I guarantee you if they were allowed,
if they let me go to do a investigation, I
know I capture stuff, but my the executive director, is
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a very stern form of principle.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
I wouldn't even bother. I wouldn't. I wouldn't even bother.
Speaker 6 (20:56):
Asking them because he'd be like no. But yeah, I
have feelings though, definitely. And she's like, and she said
the same thing. She's like, yeah, I get feelings in
certain places too. And most of the people that work
there are female. Oh, very very There's not a lot
of males that work in that day program. So I
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think there's there's a lot of energy. There's just a
lot of a lot of energy in that building.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Huh interesting, Yeah, I can see though, I mean your place, yeah,
bigger buildings like that stuff that you've got going on.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
People can probably bring stuff in with them as well.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
But then for you, you know, you said that you
kind of keep it under wraps as to you have
written a book about you.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Know, paranormal and your experiences and things like that. I
keep I at this job too, I've kept it under wraps.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
But they kind of figured it out put two together.
It's like, okay, but it is what it is, you know,
because you just never you never know.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I mean, it's it's becoming one of those things where
people are more success you know, susceptible of it, like
they accept it, but then you have those other ones that.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Are just like, oh what, she's freaking batshit crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
You know exactly. Yep, absolutely, I'm.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Kind of getting to that point in my life where
I just don't care.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, I'm pretty much there too. Yeah,
it's just like, you know, to do some of the
things that I've done in my life, I've already I
already know I'm crazy.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
I'm okay with that's okay.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yep, me too.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
You know, I hung out in cemeteries. I'm all right right.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now? Do you think okay? You have had.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Like I said, You've had all these experiences growing up
in things. Now, do you believe that a lot of
these experiences that you're having are with intelligent spirits or residual.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
I think a little bit of both.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Honestly, It kind of depends on really what the situation is,
because I've had a lot of contact with residual and
I've actually had a lot of contact with intelligence that
I've actually interacted with me, which is kind of neat,
or I've actually seen them and you know whatever.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
So I've had a little bit of both. It just
kind of depends like.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Where I've been and what exactly I'm doing as far
as you know, buildings or whatever the land I'm in.
But yeah, I've had a little bit of both, not
really one more than the other, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Okay, Now, do you believe that these places are haunted
before you get there?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Are?
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Do you think that some.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Of these spirits are following you from place to place?
Speaker 5 (23:58):
Now?
Speaker 6 (23:58):
See, that's a really good question because what I try
to do, Like when I pass the cemetery, I say
you cannot follow me. I mean I drive, I passed
the cemetery every day. Every day I go to work
and I do that. And I've been in the car
with my girlfriend and she's like, why do you do that?
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And I said, well, do you want do you want
me to give you something? She's like, no, I've already
had that experience. And you know, you know I don't
want any of your people. You can keep them and
take them home with you. I said, that's exactly why
I do this. So I think they've learned at this
point in time, if you're respectful to them, and I
try to be that, they won't follow me.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
They're already there.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
But I'm kind of like they're kind of like, you know,
the the whole the dog with the squirrel. You know,
the dog will be doing something the squirrel and they're like,
oh squirrel and they're running. So when I hit the
wherever I'm at, they're like, oh, human can see and
hear me, and then they go so yeah, it's it's
just kind of I don't know.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
I think I put in my book is.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
Like I feel like I'm at the vacancy in the
motel the little Neon sign and it's like, okay, you
know I can see spirits, you know, come here. So
they see that and they're like, oh, here's a beacon,
so we'll go over there and mess with him because
he can see and hear us.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
So do you do you classify yourself as anything.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Like a sensitive or medium, our clear audience, curve voyants, whatever,
any of those.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
I think in some regard, yes, I may have a
little bit of all of that, but I'm definitely I
know I am a mpath.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
I definitely know that.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
And sometimes when I have really hard days at work
because I'm picking up everybody's emotions. Yeah, yeah, people don't
quite understand when I'm dragging. There's a reason for that.
Not because I get up at four in the morning,
that's part of it, but when everyone's hitting me at
the same time and my wall's not working, they I can't.
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It's really hard to explain to people I'm getting their emotions.
And again, and it's nothing against what I love women,
but they have such strong emotions that coupled with the
developmentally disabled, when they get angry, look out so their emotions.
So I'm getting hit from all sides. So it's really
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I've come home and literally just felt so drained that
I don't even know how I made it home, because
you know, they just they just took all my energy.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
I concur with that a lot. But you talk about,
you know, your wall not working and things. Do you
practice that like trying to put up a wall, a
barrier or anything.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Yes, yes, I do try to do that, to put
that wall up so it won't come in. But well,
on the times that I don't, I forget, and then
that's when it hits me and I, oh, crap, I
forgot to do that, and now I'm paying for it
because I've got a huge headache and I feel like
someone just sucked the life out of me.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I am very terrible about doing that. So like I
it's something I've.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Work on, but I forget a lot of times and
then all hell breaks loose, especially on an investigation.
Speaker 5 (27:41):
Oh yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, But like what what do you do to prepare yourself?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
How do you prepare putting up a wall? Like what
do you envision?
Speaker 6 (27:54):
I kind of like meditate and then envision the wall.
I just it's usually it's kind a brick wall. It's
just a big gray, gray I guess a slab of
concrete is how I best describe it. It's really nondescript.
It's just a big piece of gray whatever. But I'll
imagine that and then I'll try to imagine the white
light around me has more protection and that usually, like
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I said, that usually helps a lot. But like you said,
the times that I forget to do that, that's when
they say, oh, I'm in here, and then I'm just
a mess and people don't understand it and I have
to make stuff up because I was just like, oh,
I'm just really really tired today, had to it, you know,
got up early, and because I can't explain it to
(28:39):
them because they're gonna be like, Okay, I'm gonna walk
over here and keep an eye, you know, and it's
just it's and I don't have the energy to explain
it to them after all that, but yeah, it's but yeah,
I try to envision that wall or the that in
the white light, and that usually helps.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Do you ever have to go outside and like ground yourself.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Yes, yes, that's something that I've actually learned to do
much more recently than before. And I actually had another
friend of mine who's a Claire audience, teach me techniques
on how to ground yourself because I really wasn't into that.
But and again, one of the things that I did,
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and what really always grounded me was nature. And I've
gotten away from doing that because again with my line
of work and everything, and that's an excuse, and I
know that I hate that, but I got away from
getting out in the woods and just hiking or just
enjoying nature that always grounds me.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
I need to do that too more often, another thing
I'm terrible at and people scold me for on locations.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Now, with you having these abilities, do you ever find
yourself channeling?
Speaker 1 (30:02):
No?
Speaker 5 (30:03):
No, I've never done that.
Speaker 6 (30:06):
And I think the reason I have it is because
of that experience that I had with the negative attachment,
because that was basically a channeling session and that was
with five other people and I I kind of and
and again, as you well know, and a lot of
people you know. And I've got a brother of mine
that does not believe in any of this. And we
(30:27):
will go back and forth because we talk about how
bad the world is today, but he doesn't accept that
there's real.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Evil out there. Oh.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
He says that, oh, I can see that this and
that we'll talk about certain things going on, but he
doesn't understand that things can come through the portals and
this and that I bring that up and he just
makes fun of it, or he just tells me I'm
nuts and this and that. But yeah, and it's just
so so again. I think until I could maybe learn
(30:57):
some techniques that I wouldn't get something in there. I
probably wouldn't. But honestly, I I probably channel without even
knowing it.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah you could.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
I just have to say that all of a sudden,
like I am like extremely cool and have goosebumps.
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Well, when you moved, I didn't see I saw a
baby behind you, and I was like, what the hell?
Oh okay, oh my god, I said, you got a
baby ghost behind her.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Oh my gosh. I would probably crap myself up that happened.
Speaker 6 (31:34):
I got goose pumps when I looked at that, and
I was like, what, Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
Yeah, I know I inherited those from.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
My grandpa's house, so that's cool.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
One of home's actually this one here, oops, I'm this
one is actually from Kim's house. It was her it
was her mom's.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
Oh wow, let.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
My girls pick out a doll from her house because
she has she.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Has over two hundred and two of these things in
that house.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
And anyways, my oldest one is terrified at dolls, but
yet she picked this doll out and now I have
to keep it in here because she wanted something to
remember her.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But she can't be around it because she's terrified at dolls.
So so it's it stays in here.
Speaker 6 (32:26):
Yeah, I tell people, and I don't know if you
if you've seen this or not, but there was a
great movie back in the seventies called Trilogy of Terror.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I have not seen it. I've heard of it, but
I have seen it.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Oh you've got to see it because the last one,
the last movie. I'm not going to give it away.
Speaker 6 (32:41):
No spoiler alerts here, because everyone's got to get scared.
But this woman gets a doll from Africa from her
mother and the necklace falls off of it and it
comes to life and it's possessed by a demon. So
here's a doll in an apartment with a woman and
it's a lie. I saw that as a kid, and
it still scares the hell out of me today.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
But yeah, so they did. They did remake in.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
The two thousands from it, but it's not as good
as the original. The original, you know, cheesy seventies cinematography.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
I mean, come on right.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
I started watching some of those older ones recently because, like, what,
just a couple of years ago, I finally watched the
original Exorcist.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
I was like, some of those I have never seen,
Like I haven't seen Psycho.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
I do have it.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Oh, I do have a bunch.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Of Alfred Hitchcock ones save to watch. But you know,
I just remember the scene from that, but I haven't.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I have not watched those. It's like, oh my gosh,
I need to get with Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I just actually watched The Birds last week.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
The Birds.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Did you say the Birds? Oh? Yeah, the Birds. I
watched that last week.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
Yeah Hitchcock, yep, yeah, okay, yep. I did watch that
one night.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
Yeah, the Bird. Yeah, the Birds.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Like I said, The Burbs with Tom Hanks.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
At first, I was like, what you just watched that.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
That's a good movie too, getting off topic, but you know,
dolls and creepy and then you know, getting the chills
was kind of brought it all together.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Horror movies. He they all tie in, and they all.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Tie in, They all tie in.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Now, are you working on anything new right now or.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
What's any new books?
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (34:34):
I am actually so so. I don't think I told
this story. Last time I was on your show, or
actually any of the times I've been on your show.
Before my book came out in twenty nineteen, I had
the widow Maker heart attack.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
Okay, and obviously I didn't die, right, Yeah, but I did.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
As I was getting worked on, this feeling came over
me of just ultimate peace and quiet, and I said
to myself, if I have to go, I'm okay with it.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
I'm ready.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
So luckily, for whatever reason, I'm still here. So I
had a friend of mine. I said, Kevin, you had
an NDE and near death experience. I said no, I said,
but that feeling was just calm and peaceful.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
She said, you had.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
One, And I started thinking about that. So I started
doing research and I was like, you know, all these
people I came across, all these people who would have
had the same near death experiences or different ones. So
that always fascinated me. So I'm putting the finishing touches
on a compilation book about near death experiences.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Oh wow. Cool.
Speaker 6 (35:42):
So what I'd like to do, if possible, is I
want to ask your audience, because again I'm always looking
for good stuff. If they have any, send them my way.
They don't have to put their name in. It can
be anonymous, but uh, I can always use more stories.
(36:03):
So if any of your audience has them out there,
they can send them my way if they like.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Oh yeah, absolutely so, listeners, if you have any near
death experiences or stories that you'd like to share about that,
contact Ken. I do have some of you could possibly
reach out to. He's been a guest on our show.
He is from the UK. But David Ditchfield, he has
(36:29):
a very interesting near death experience story.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
It's truly I don't know. I don't even know how
he's still alive, honest.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
Wow, I want to talk to him.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
You have to that Ditches like, is that like Ditches
in ditch Like?
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Yeah, ditch.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
He's on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
Ditchfield.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
He's on Instagram ditch Field.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
Excellent.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Yeah, that's one that I've had on here that's had
a really good story. I've had other people on talking
about near death experiences, but it's more like they're studying
it per se.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
And so there's a website. I'll have to look it
up and send it to you.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
There's a website that one of my other listeners told
me about where he found a lot of interesting stories
so there might be like I don't know, if there's.
Speaker 8 (37:31):
Like an area where they maybe all concur together and
like talk about it or what, or if there's a
way that you can find out who wrote some of
them and like you could reach out to some of
those people to share their stories with you, because it's
like a website that they share their near death experiences
or something on.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
So I'll have to look it up. I haven't written somewhere,
but that might help you out.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
Also, yeah awesome. Yeah, like I said, I'm putting the
finish touches with that.
Speaker 6 (38:01):
I've been working on this for about a year and
a half now almost two years, so wow. But like
I said, I can always use more stories. So I
like to reach out to the to the audience out
there because I know those are the ones that always
have good stuff.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Oh yeah, and I can.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
Always use good stuff, more good stuff, and a lot
of these that I've gotten so far just amazing. Do
you But like I said, I'm still fascinated by it.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
Oh yeah, do you have I can't remember.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Do you have a website or where do you want
them to contact you?
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Oh, they can send it to my email.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
The cake Kalen. Yeah, they can send it to the email.
That'd be great, Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
I will. I'm going to put it in our chat.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
So anybody who's listening and, like I said, has a
near death experience and you want to share it with.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Kevin, check out our chat. I'm going to put his
email in there.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
But we'll also share it on our social media as well.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
On I'll have it on Instagram and Twitter. I don't
have Facebook, so.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
If I can find my email, I don't know where
it went I have.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
This is ridiculous, Okay, So I have over one hundred
and three tabs opened on my phone?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Oh wow, how did you do that?
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I don't I don't know. I think it's just because
I hord pages. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I'm afraid I'm going to lose something or forget something,
so I just keep all the tabs open.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
I guess.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I've got a coworker does that.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
They've got like five million tabs on their computer open
up at any time. Oh? I like, how do you
ever find anything? Or you can't do any work here
because you slow your computer down some of those things.
She's like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm afraid I'm going
to do this and I need this, and I'm like, no,
you don't. Yeah, but yeah, she's easy because the it
(40:01):
guy is always yelling at her. Oh because he's just yeah,
because she's just you know, messing up her computer because
it's all slow and everything and uh huh.
Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah. So I understand that. I know, but I.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
Don't have that problem with my computer. The only time
I've ever on this is if I'm doing a show.
I don't use it for anything else. But it's just
my phone has everything open.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I'm scrolling through looking for stuff all the time. All right.
So I did share that information in the chat.
Speaker 5 (40:32):
Awesome, thank you.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
Yeah, absolutely, does anybody in chat have any have any questions?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Let me know. Feel free to put him in the
chat and I will ask Kevin.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Now do you have I mean, have you had any
recent experiences like.
Speaker 5 (40:54):
Oh, that's yeah, that's one thing I wanted to bring up.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
So a lot of my recent experien speriences have to
do with what I consider transcendence. And the reason I
call it transcendence is because I've kind of moved I
don't want to say I've moved away, but there's a
lot less of the hey, I'm here, I'm gonna, you know,
footsteps in the hallway or door slamming or whatever. I
(41:18):
still get those. As a matter of fact, I just
had one yesterday right when I woke up to go
to work. There's something that mentioning here, and I don't
have pets, so there was that. But what I've been
having a lot of is I see triple numbers. I've
seen quadruple numbers, and I'll do that. I'll think of
somebody I haven't thought of it in a while. They'll
(41:40):
call or text me or something, or I'll think of
an obscure band I haven't heard from in years, and
I'll play a song on the radio wo or just
I'll think of somebody and somebody like something will happen
and I'll be like my earro start itching and then
I'm like, somebody's talking about me, because that's how it is.
And then I'll get a text or call from somebody
(42:02):
and it's like that was you. So I got a
lot a lot of that, And I also get the premonitory.
I'm getting a lot of premonitions lately, and I haven't.
I usually never do that, but I've gotten a lot
of premonitions and that's really kind of freaked me out
because I usually that was never me. But I've gotten
premonitions that I don't know if they've come to Actually
(42:25):
a couple of them from work came true.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (42:28):
So yeah, So I've been getting a lot of that.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
And I've actually had somebody something happened and they were like,
didn't you mention that last week?
Speaker 5 (42:36):
And I was like, yeah, I did. How'd you know?
I said, I can't tell you.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
So I have a lot of that going on, but
that it's it's like, and that's why I say I
kind of transcended, because I get a lot more of
that than I do. And it's almost as if they're like, Okay, yeah,
we know you can see us, we can you can
hear us.
Speaker 5 (42:55):
You know, we're kind of bored.
Speaker 6 (42:56):
With you, you know whatever. But yeah, I still get things.
I've been seeing a lot of animals lately, Like I'll
see it, I'll think of a deer and there'll be
a deer in the road.
Speaker 5 (43:10):
Since the deer and I've.
Speaker 6 (43:11):
Done that a lot, I forgot what my spirit animal is.
But I kind of live in a really wooded area
and there's a really nice bond and everything, so there's
a lot of animals around here that kind of flock over,
and I've noticed, like the neighbors will kind of look
at me, like why does he have all these birds
in his yard or you know whatever, because they they
(43:31):
I guess they kind of notice that the animals, I
think are a little attracted to me. So there's that, Yeah,
there's that. But yeah, I mean I still I still will.
Like I said the other day, my father, And that
was one of the things I was going to tell you.
One reason I haven't been on much or been around
much because my father passed last year, and so.
Speaker 5 (43:55):
I've had a lot.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
I've had three people pass and I just had a
lot of you know, light, a lot of life stuff
I got.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I got COVID twice so and I moved here from Virginia.
So there's been a lot going on.
Speaker 6 (44:10):
But the reason I bring up my father is my
father I think was with me for a month and
then he passed on.
Speaker 5 (44:19):
He moved on to wherever they go.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
But I think he was with me for about My
mother was with me for a while when she passed.
One of my one of my brothers, who passed about
four years ago, he just went across there was nothing,
and I had other people tell me I think he's gone.
I said, I know he is, because there was one
little incident and then he was gone. I was I
knew it was him, and I said, that's him, and
(44:42):
I was it and he just went.
Speaker 5 (44:44):
But and I I kind of looked.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
At that like thinking, Okay, with all my abilities and everything,
why wouldn't they stay around and talk to me or whatever?
Speaker 2 (44:52):
But yeah, I don't know, must be ready to go.
Yeah around here anymore?
Speaker 5 (45:01):
Exactly?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Now do you have Do you ever have.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Somebody who is passed come to you in dreams, like
they have a message or something for you, and they
come to you in a dream state.
Speaker 6 (45:19):
Yeah, I've dreamed. The one thing with me is that
my dreams never make any sense. I've had so many
weird dreams that just I And the one thing I've
had lately is it's almost as if I'm either it's
like it's happened and I'm watching it, but I don't know,
(45:42):
I don't know where these who these people are. It's
like and I've had some that I swear to God
were like was like a TV show, Like I was
in a TV show and I knew I was in
a TV show, but I was just kind of watching,
not participating.
Speaker 5 (45:57):
And I was like, these are crazy.
Speaker 6 (45:59):
But the reason I bring that up is because I've
had dreams of people that I've known that have passed
with no message.
Speaker 5 (46:05):
But I just dreamed they just did stupid stuff, and
I was like, well, wait a minute, why are they
in there eating a pizza plunging out the toilets?
Speaker 4 (46:13):
You know.
Speaker 6 (46:13):
It was like, yeah, so there's no message here. It's
just oh wow, I dreamed of So and So's mom
who passed ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (46:22):
Yeah, so that's kind of the They never have any messages.
They just kind of show up.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, mine too, they don't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (46:30):
I've had some weird ones too, And like you said,
you have some dreams and you don't.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Even know who the people are. And it's like a
lot of my dreams, I don't know who any of
these people are in my dreams.
Speaker 4 (46:39):
Are they people that I'm gonna cross paths with at
some point or or what.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
It's bizarre exactly, Yeah, because I just know I've researched
dream interpretation and talked to some people who have actually
done that, and they've always they've told me that it's
you know, usually dreams are part of things that have
already happened. But I'm thinking, I don't even know these people,
(47:08):
so if it happened, where was I because I have
no idea who these people were.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Ya.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
That's another topic that I would like to have.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
To do on the show, is somebody who can interpret dreams.
Speaker 5 (47:23):
Because yes, yes, that's fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah it is, because it's like, what in the.
Speaker 5 (47:29):
Hell that'd be a good show?
Speaker 2 (47:31):
What did I?
Speaker 5 (47:32):
You know?
Speaker 3 (47:33):
But but sometimes I think that TV can also hinder
what we dream about.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Because I was watching Maximum Overdrive one night.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Instead of these crazy trucks, you know, killing people, I dreamt.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
That I was somehow controlling.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
These people to kill people and I didn't know why
I was doing it.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
And then I don't remember who it was like, had
this like thing in cased in a crystal or whatever,
and I came to it and I shattered it, and
then they got all mad because it shattered, and they're like,
now you have to hold it and you have to
say that you're not gonna kill people anymore for to stop,
and I was like, so I did it, and then
that was.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
My dream and I'm like, what just when on here?
Speaker 4 (48:27):
So sometimes I think what you watch on TV can
kind of.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
Oh. Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 6 (48:34):
I think there's something that goes into the cognitive ability
because I usually and what I what I do, And
I don't know if this is influencing me or not.
Is I fall asleep to audio books? Okay, so maybe
that's what this is. That but I never dream about
what's in these books. But it's just like we're like
(48:56):
you said, I'll dream about people I don't know. And
I remember one time I distinkly knew that I was
a ghost, like in this dream, I was a spirit
and they couldn't see me, and I kept like trying
to talk to them and they're like, wait a minute,
I am, but I had like the wherewithal to know
that I was a ghost in this dream.
Speaker 5 (49:14):
But it was really weird. And these people I had
no idea who they were. I didn't know any of them.
Speaker 4 (49:21):
Wow yeah, I yeah, Like I said, probably about ninety
five percent of my dreams are people I don't even
know are I don't have any recollection of ever.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Seeing them in public or yep. Anything. It's bizarre, not
on TV. Nothing. It's like I don't know where they
came from.
Speaker 4 (49:40):
I did have a dream about aliens coming to try
They were coming.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
After my daughters.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Oh we were at a party somewhere and they were
out running and I was like, where did they go?
And there was these weird like spacecrafts coming down and
then one of them stopped and they said.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
They were looking for my children. I don't know. It
was so weird. So I spent my dream trying.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
To to tell them that they needed to get to
a safe place because the heliens were gonna say.
Speaker 5 (50:15):
That, Wow, that's interesting, weird.
Speaker 2 (50:20):
I don't know AnyWho.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Once again, okay, so before we start to wrap things up,
you still have your your book for sale?
Speaker 2 (50:32):
They can Is it still on Amazon?
Speaker 5 (50:35):
And probably Amazon?
Speaker 6 (50:39):
Probably, yeah, pretty much any any dot com and I
think most of them still have them out the shelf.
Speaker 5 (50:46):
So you can go to a brick and mortar.
Speaker 6 (50:50):
And you can order them from Ozark Mountains website the publisher.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Okay, perfect, Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't remember the.
Speaker 4 (51:00):
It's been a while since i've I've read it, so
it's like I cann't remember remember who the publisher was,
but yes, Ozark Mountain.
Speaker 2 (51:10):
Now if anybody has any questions or anything like that.
Do you want them to email you or do you
have social media that they could get in touch with
you with.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
Yeah, they can just email me. And like I said,
they they it doesn't even have to be ghost related.
They you just email me about anything. I just like
to talk. So they just want to talk about you know,
Uncle Bob's cigar habit or whatever.
Speaker 5 (51:33):
That's fine too, Yeah, yeah, anything.
Speaker 6 (51:36):
You know, I just like to talk and I've done
a lot of things, so you know, crop me a
line and just say hey, and we'll chat about whatever.
Speaker 5 (51:45):
It doesn't have to be about ghosts or anything.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
Do you have do you.
Speaker 4 (51:49):
Have kind of rough date as to when your new
book might be out?
Speaker 6 (51:56):
Right now, it's probably going to be in next year,
just because because once I get it to the publisher,
it usually takes close to.
Speaker 5 (52:04):
Another year for it to come to come out. So
it's probably going to be twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (52:11):
Okay, perfect, So I can update.
Speaker 5 (52:14):
I can send it to you when I have a
firm date on that.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Oh yeah, absolutely, that way we can we can share
it and let all our listeners know when that book
will be out.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
And like I said, once again, if any.
Speaker 4 (52:27):
Of our listeners have a near death experience that they
would like to share with Kevin.
Speaker 2 (52:32):
I did put his email in the chat, so you
can check it out in the.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Chat, or you can contact Kim or myself on our Instagram.
Speaker 3 (52:45):
Or Twitter pages, or she has Facebook and we can
get you the information as well.
Speaker 4 (52:54):
Next week we'll be a pre recorded but it's going
to be a really good show and it's.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Just in time for Valentine's Day. Everybody. Jannine Lowe will
be on.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
She is.
Speaker 4 (53:05):
Does a lot of stuff with Chinese astrology and fun chuis,
so she's gonna be talking about her new book Date
Love Mary Avoid. It's it's a very interesting fun book
kind of tells you like who you should steer clear
of and who you should be with in relationships or
or also helps you.
Speaker 3 (53:24):
With wealth how to come into some wealth. So check Yeah,
so check that out next week. And once again, thank
you Kevin for being on again. It's always a pleasure
talking to you and catching up with you. And yeah,
and I'd like to thank everybody who is in chat tonight.
Thank you for everybody who is not in Chat but listening.
(53:47):
We appreciate each and every one of you, and like
I said, make sure to tune in next week.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Until next time, peace out,
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