ECW One Night Stand Revisit: Does this love letter to ECW still live up to the hype_

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Hey, welcome. We are revisiting the mania, primarily a WrestleMania
rewatch podcasts. I'm Carlos and I'm Maria, and today we
are gonna take a side quest out of here because
we haven't had enough time to finish our full breakdown
and review WrestleMania thirty seven. But since I was reminded

(00:28):
that this is the anniversary the twenty year anniversary of
ECW One Night Standing, with the recent passing of the
wrestler Saboo, I was like, you know what, why don't
we finally get this episode out as this was something
that was recommended to us. But we are not alone.
We have returning guests. Yes you heard that right, not

(00:50):
just one guest, but two guests. We have Wayne's I
Might Drive Chicken from podcast Championship Wrestling, and the cameras
individual with the PCW podcast logo is Dre. You might
remember Dre from our WrestleMania X eight revisit and Wayne

(01:14):
night you've been in. I think there's like your fifth time.
You're like the booker keast. That is so as far
as this guess concerned. So what's going on with you guys?
What's new?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know what? We just wrapped up a PCW episode,
me and Drey getting ready for predictions for Night Champions,
which is this weekend. And then we also discussed you know,
because you know, in the wrestling world, there is no breaks,
right we have we have the Great American Bash coming up,
We have Saturay Night main event coming up, and then

(01:48):
we also have Evolution Bama one right after another. There's
no room for rest, but we do have, so you
can check that out.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, there anything you else want to add before we
get into.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
This, No, No, Wayne covered it all.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like I said, it's it's a marathon right now when
all the shows that WW is putting out one after
the other, so we're banging them out nice.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, And I think it was nice though to come
back and like dust off an old pay per view
because I was kind of excited about.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
This, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
It was like I need a break from the modern
day wrestling, you know, so it was nice to go
back and you know, find some core memories.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Right.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
So the year is two thousand and five. ECW, to
my understanding, has been a little slow running for some years.
Y'all can tell me if that's different, but not in
the hearts of fans like yourselves WWE saw the DVD
sails of the Rise and Fall of ECW and knew

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the cult wasn't gone.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
It was hungry. Do you all agree?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, I think I'm pretty sure this was. I
have that DVD as well for the Rise of Fall
of ECW because this was in the peak of my
WWE or WWF DVD collection phase. All damn near every
pay per view they had or documentary or superstar series

(03:22):
and stuff that they put out, I was buying it.
So I was definitely one of those ECW faithful who
had that DVD and watched it.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Now, when we were watching this, Dre or Wayne, were
you guys watching ECW, Because this is towards the beginning
of me being in high school, when ECW started coming
up more mentions like from what I could see like
in magazines and things like that, when the in the

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early beginnings of the wrestling community, you know, when we
had to like subscribe to newsletters and things like that.
So I would only be able to see ECW if
I stayed up to maybe twelve or one o'clock in
the morning locally. So I don't know if you guys
got to see the majority of the talent that was

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showcased in this paper view or not.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
I mean, I you know, you would think there was
somebody like me who grew up so close to Philly,
I would have grown up with ECW, But I didn't.
I was I was a WWF child. I was a
WWE teenager, Like this is June. I think this is
in June, right, I am seventeen years old, fresh out

(04:40):
of high school. Like I think at the time, I
was really involved in whatever was going on on Rollin SmackDown.
So for me, a lot of this ECW people coming
over this was new to me, and then I started
getting interested in some of these characters and you know,
lo and behold, Like if we look at this card,

(05:01):
a lot of these guys later in the future have
pretty damn good careers, some more than others. But yeah,
this this was kind of when ECW came over to
ww that was kind of my first taste of it.
So this pay per view had to dig deep and
like remember this. I think I remember this pay per

(05:24):
view because we had a discussion off air because I
thought I was thinking, you know, One Night Stand. Immediately
I thought of two thousand and six. Here I am
doing research on two thousand and six, like, oh yeah,
I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna watch this. And
then I texted you and you're like, oh no, it's
two thousand and five, like close one. But I still
enjoyed it nonetheless. But yeah, so this is this kind

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of a lot of these superstars on this card are
very new to me. Some I know of. There was
a lot of people I have no idea who that.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Is, right, but they have that you can throw out there.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
I don't know the few names that you can throw out.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
There that I don't know or that I do know
that you do know.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
I think that short that list would probably be shorter
than the list that you don't know.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I don't know, Like I mean, I know we we
we obviously we know Jericho, Lance Storm, I know Lance Storm,
I know who's to Jerry and super Crazy and Nunzio are.
But I think the reason why I know a lot
of these characters is because of them being absorbed into
WWE roster later on, because you know, but I don't
know much about like Psychosis or Mike Awesome, you know,

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but I do know a lot about Rob Van Dam
and Rhino I've seen tons of them, just Saboo of course,
the u W Boys, Tommy, Dreamer, and Sandman. So yeah,
I think it's more or less like when they came
over to the w W roster. I I found out
who these characters are. But I'm interested in Like, Okay,
I want to see some early Sandman matches. I want

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to see some earlier dud BOYD matches because I'm kind
of interested in it. You know, it made me and
this is what I'm talking about when I was younger.
I got interested in seeing what kind of super started these.
You know, people are digging into their past once we
got their library.

Speaker 6 (07:15):
Finally, So did any of you feel like and we'll
get to Dree in a second, but did any of
you feel like ECW sold out when this happened?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Trey, you want to take.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
This one on this for this particular show, not at all.
This didn't feel like a sellout, this, especially compared to
the subsequent show we got in two thousand and six.
This felt probably about as close to being authentic ECW
as you could get from a WWE product. Like I said,

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as Wayne mentioned Neoi, for him, it was what you
said just coming out of high school when ECW's popping.
So for me ec was, yeah, it was pretty much
my high school years, like late middle school when it
first started, but it wasn't really on the radar yet
back when it first started and it was just Eastern

(08:10):
Championship Wrestling, but then as it became Extreme Championship Wrestling
and ECW, and then you know, in the middle of
a Monday night wars where every Monday we're all sitting
down and either watching NITRO or RAW, there was always
that there was still that underbelly of hey there's this
other thing as well, like it ain't just WCW and WWF, like, hey,

(08:34):
there's this other thing ECWO.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Check this out there.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
You know, if you knew you knew a couple people
will talk about it, and it was hard to find
because again, it wasn't on a major network. I think
for me, it aired I want to say maybe Friday
nights or something like that, but it was late at night,
like I don't think it came on to maybe like
ten o'clock. I couldn't even for life, but I can't

(08:58):
remember even what channel that came on. It was one
of things where I just if I happened to catch it,
I'd be like, oh, it's that ECW thing they was
telling me about, and I will watch it. So, yeah,
pretty much everybody that was on the show, well just
about everybody that was on the show I was fairly
familiar with, from the Rob Van Dam to Jerry's, the
FBI with Little Guido and Tommy Dreamer, Lance Storm, all

(09:22):
of those, all those names, even you know Stone Cold
before well Steve Austin long before he was even the
ring master or Stone Cold, and obviously you know Terry
Funk and the Cactus Jacks, the like you with Rex,
all of those e c W guys from back then

(09:43):
saying Man Shane Douglas, all of them, remember seeing those guys,
and yeah, it was it was one of those things
that you felt extra cool if you knew about e
c W. You know, obviously everybody was watching w CW,
everybody was watching Nitro, and everybody was watching RAW. But
if you were one of the ones who was watching

(10:04):
ECW two and was catching that, yeah, you had like
an extra extra level of wrestling crad back in the
day because like, you knew about that underground.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Thing, definitely, And so we talked about being on the
ww F Fandwagon. Where were you when you were watching
W Like this episode the show.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Well one night Stand I watched because it was being
produced and you know, being pushed out there by by
w W E. I never watched an ECW pay per view,
like Barely Legal is one of the ones that they had,
and I can't remember what the other one was called.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
But you think our parents are gonna let us watch
the pay.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Per views barely Legal?

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Yeah, that's right though, like the three of us, all
of us, like at this point in time when when
EW before it was absorbed by WW, We're in school,
we're going to bed early.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
We're not allowed to be up you know late. Like
Dre said, it was on real late and sometimes maybe
hard to reach. But I could definitely not see me
pitching to my parents like, oh well download this pay
per view. It's it's called Barely Legal and it's called
you know, like Extreme Champion.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
No.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
I don't think she would have.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
No, she would not at all.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
No, what are you watching? You're not watching that?

Speaker 6 (11:31):
Get here, we're for whatsion of.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Even seventeen, we're talking like early teens.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
There's no way, right, you're barely getting away with watching
Nitro and Raw as it is given this attitude era
and some of the stuff that was coming that was
on Raw at the time and.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Don at like almost eleven o'clock at night on a
school night, Monday.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
I definitely enjoyed watching this. It was there was so
much action. We saw blood, we saw fighting. All the
wrestling that and during the show made you say this
is e c W. Like what set it apart from
w w F at that time.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Maybe the head shots, that's true. It's like every match
it was just there was weapons involved in some kind
and they're not just standing. They won't always just have
standard weapons. Like I saw a barbed wire ball? Was
that what that was?

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I don't know if it was a ball. I think
it was just wrapped up. Are you telling it towards
the m where he did the tombstone and everything, Yeah,
it was more like I think, yeah, like just bunched up.
It wasn't a ball.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I'll tell you what. The ECW heavy use of chairs
and kindos six and and babels when the tables, Yeah,
because when they lifted up to ring apron, you know,
there was like like six or seven stacked like you
know what I mean, Like just like bread, like because
I who knows how many it will go through tonight,

(13:08):
so we buy them in bulk. And I did, Like
throughout the show, they showed flashbacks, you know, of peak
ECW moments, you know, stuff that I never saw, but
stuff that even today, I'm still like, holy shit, you know,
I mean the famous incident of them throwing all those
steel chairs in the ring. That's that's a very famous

(13:29):
ECW clip that like I would always see floating around
the internet when I was younger, and like even today
I see it show up once in a while. I'm like, damn,
that's still crazy to this day, like that clip and
I show people, I'm like, that's ECW. That's like, that's
not even WWE. Like people were just wild.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Back then and there was a wrestler underneath underneath all
of that that.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
But I mean, like extreme it definitely sets us all apart,
Like how how we have had it in the past,
But how often do we get people going through lit tables,
you know, and just some of the use of the
unique use of weapons. We don't get that anymore.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
And I'm curious. I haven't been able to like do
a deep dive into this one. I haven't been able
to look up any like any kind of what do
you call it interviews or anything like that. Are there
any behind the scenes stories that you all know of
that surface since this aired.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
The only thing that really, I don't know if you
call it, Bob, I mean, the one story that really
from this specific show that always sticks out with me
is at the end of the show when the raw
and SmackDown guys come down and they get the fighting
and all that stuff. If you watch JBL and he's

(14:54):
wailing on the Blue Meani friend of PCW, he's getting
legitimate shots in on him, like he's not, he's not,
you know, working with him.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's he shoot punching him.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
As that you see how why Bluemeni is legitimately bloody
afterwards because JBL was getting legitimate, real shots in on him,
basically using the brawls and excuse to be dirty and
get real shots in on this guy.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
So that's the one story that always sticks out.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
And uh, sometime later I think it was on maybe
on an episode of SmackDown or something, but the BWO
get there, they get a lick back, They basically get
their receipt back on JBL. Specifically Stevie Richards and he clocks, uh,
he gets a chair shot in on JBL and like,
if you look it up, you can find it. I

(15:49):
mean Stevie Richards lays into that chair shot, like, doesn't
hold back nothing, He goes full throttle chair shot and
freaking lays out JBL. And he did it as a
receipt for what JBL did to lu Mini at One
night stand.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Wow, Wayne, do you have any interesting tidbit before we
get into the first match.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
I mean I think they also brought up the real life,
you know, dating situation between Edge and Leada and Matt Hardy.
I mean at this point in time, Matt got fired
from the company. Yeah, and it just was leda. So
this is before Matt Hardy makes his you know, comeback
after being fired. So I thought that was kind of
cool to mention that because as soon as they brought

(16:35):
that up, I was like, oh, that's right, you know, uh,
don't pat your coworkers.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Yeah, that was a very inside wrestling thing that was
done at that time because it was it was the
it was the like worst kept seeking wrestler, like the
thing that everybody knew but wasn't publicly acknowledged until Paul
Hayman just basically put him on blast.

Speaker 6 (16:58):
YEP, I heard Paul Haman's promo. I heard it maybe
a couple of times because it was a lot of shouting.
Do you all think it was scripted? What do you
think about it? Do you have any opinions or do
you just that.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I think that promo that we had before the main event,
the main event match of the Tech team match, that
he goes out there to think.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Everybody else, Yeah, he didn't have nobody to write for him.
He went off. You know, you could tell with his emotion.
I also heard from a recent podcast that Paul Hammon
kind of didn't want to revisit this. He Paul Hammond's
always been a looking through the windshield, not through the

(17:44):
rearview mirror type of guy. He just he's the type
of guy who always wants to move forward. But I
was thinking that going into this. When I was watching it.
You can just tell by his emotions like he was
he was taking it all in. You know, that was
something else. I definitely believe that speech. It's just come
on Like whenever Paul Hayman gives a speech, I don't

(18:05):
ever believe anybody ever writes for Paul Hayman. I always
believe maybe has plot points he has to visit, but
like are bullet points I mean, but no, I think
it's all right there.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
I agree with Wayne, like I think up to this point.
And I'm not sure when Vince started trusting Paul Hayman more,
because they've always clashed. You know, when Vince acquired ECW
from Paul Haym and Paul Haman was brought in and
he was a writer, he was a producer, but Vince
would always like push down his ideas and not really

(18:40):
do anything that Paul Hayman wanted to do. So the
only reason that this pay per view happened, like I
was mentioned previously, is because of the the great sales
that happened when it's DVD released it At the first
a couple of months, it was only lagging behind Rustle
twenty and eventually it surpassed the WrestleMania twenty DVDs.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Or something like that.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Something.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
So then as news and everything came along, Shane Douglas
had caught window that who was working at TNA, that
he also he wanted to beat Vince to the punch
and making a memorial show, and he tried to do it,
but he came out with Extreme Reunion, and before he

(19:33):
could get that out, the ww sent a cease and
desist because he used the word extreme. I didn't know
extreme was something that was trademarked along with Extreme Championship Wrestling.
So he changed it to a hardcore reunion and he
started trying to beat Vince and all the other guys

(19:54):
that were working for Vince at the time, which we
had Al Snow and Tommy Dreamer. Uh. You know, they
all know pretty much everyone else on the roster because
they had been together working with them all those years,
so it was the first to the first to get them.
And now I know why Terry Funk was not on

(20:17):
the on this pay per view card. Uh. And there
was a couple more that I can't remember the names to.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I know why uh knew Jack was not on the
cards because he had warrants out for his arrest in
New York, so he definitely could not make it in
there in time. So besides, that was the only other
tidbit in news that I had behind this.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Okay, so we have a lot of heels during the show, right,
do you all have any favorites during this time. I
know that you talked about JBL we see edge. I'm
probably gonna mispronounce his name. Is it Bisco for a bishop?
Was this one of the last times he was an announcer.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Or he's the general manager? And I think he goes
up too, like two thousand and seven or two thousand
and eight, something like that.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
You can always tell by his hair, ah, because he
stopped dying.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Right Yeah, First w w Run Bischoff still had black hair.
Second run w Woff was great hair.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
This is when he's bald, so he has shaved it
off and he's gonna regrow back. Yeah, the hair.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
So was who was the SmackDown general manager at the
sign Uh?

Speaker 4 (21:33):
Probably Stephanie was the Stephanie shout thousand and five, two
thousand and five, either stephan or Teddy. Yeah, I don't
think you are. Well, there was a brief time when
Paul Hayman was smacked down GM, but I think, yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I don't know if it was during this time.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
That's a that's a good question for.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
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Speaker 5 (22:17):
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Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah. So with that we'll get with the first match.
We have Landstorm versus Lionheart Chris Jericho, and this match
goes for.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
It goes for how many minutes?

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Six minutes and thirty five seconds?

Speaker 5 (22:36):
I believe, thank you, I got.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Seven minutes and fifteen seconds.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Seven minutes and fifteen seconds. Well, that's fine. That yeah,
you're counting, you're counting from the beginning, counting match time.
But let's fine. Let's go ahead and get into it. Maria.

Speaker 6 (22:52):
Yeah, so we have Canadian excellence with the side of
ECW nostalgia.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Was Landstorm retired at.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
This time or no, he just wasn't wrestling because he
didn't want to wrestle for Vince after the buyouts, and
I believe that was the WCW bio and he had
just joined WCW in two thousand and two thousand and one,
so it's a three year deal. Four year deal. Depending
on it, it might have been towards the end of

(23:20):
the contract. Some people chose to write out their contract
and still get paid, and some people chose the buyout.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Well, I was excited to see a young Jericho. Did
you all hear the crowd chanting you sold out to him?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Or oh yeah?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I mean you can you blame Jericho?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
And like.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
His star at this point in time is like white hat.
He of course started in ECW, then he made it
to w CW, where his star grew a little bit more,
and then once we got to the White two j era,
there was no stopping this man.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Yeah, you can't really blame Jericho for selling out. I mean,
if anything, he was probably one of the first big
name wrestlers outside of WWE to come into WWE as
a big deal. I mean, not counting someone like Rick
Flair in the Night in the early nineties when he
jumped from w WCW to WWE. But Jericho came in

(24:22):
as a known commodity to WWEE that was pretty rare
for WWE back then. They had pretty much made their
thing on you know, making their own stars from the
ground up, or you know, in the cases of Hall,
Nash and Hogan or savaging them being big names in
WWE and then going to WCW or somewhere else whereas Jericho. Yeah,

(24:47):
like you mentioned Carlos, the whole y two j thing
and when he debuted, That's why he got such a
huge pop when he debuted.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Because everybody already knew who he.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Was because of his work in ecu W and WCW. So,
I mean, you can't really fault him for just, you know,
going to the next level. He had pretty much done
all he could in ECW, so he jumped to w
CW pretty much done all he could in w CW.
He was never going to be a main eventor there
with the likes of Hogan and Nash and Goldberg and

(25:19):
sting in them, he was never going to break through
to their level. So he took his talents up north
and the rest was history for him.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Well, Maria, you saw Landstorm, you see Lion, heard Christ Jericho.
Who are you rooting for Jericho? You're still rooting for Jericho.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
I am a fan of Jered as I keep on
seeing him wrestle. I always thought he was a little crabby,
but he's been wrestling for such a long time. I
thought this was a pretty good technical match, and I
thought there were a lot of good move like a
lot of good moves. So got me excited to see
the rest of the show because it was just really

(26:04):
really good.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Do you have any favorite spots as for me? I
think like this was. I was a fan of Landstorm
when he debuted in w CW. I believe he was
one of the few individuals to hold two titles at
once for that company. He held believe the what do

(26:30):
they have like the International or NWW. Yeah, he held
two of them.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
I like like the Cruiser they had the Cruiserweight Championship,
they had the WCW Television World Television.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Yeah, it was the television Championship. I knew that was
for sure, but I don't remember if it was like
the lightweight of the Cruiserweight. But he held both of
those titles at the same time. He was one of
the few individuals and that company that actually got to
do that. So I mean, coming over from uh easy
W to be able to be trusted by that, I
think was a great mark. And Uh these guys, like

(27:06):
they mentioned in the broadcast, are longtime friends. They both
trained in the famed Heart Dungeon. So what we always
say that the best matches come from your you know,
being paired up with your friends from the Heart, but no,

(27:27):
it's just them having two familiar people that all the fans,
all the marks, everyone would know, and it's kind of
like you're safe, like gauge the temperature, gauge the crowd,
and see where we go from here, Like who are
we getting. Are we gonna be playing to the smart marks,

(27:47):
Are we gonna be playing to the hardcore crowd, or
we're gonna have to play it safe and just keep
it kind of like a WWE house show or things
like that. So I kind of like this particular things
things that stuck out to me was I love how
we had Landstorm having his single single Boston Crab, but

(28:10):
they call it a Canadian Crab, and then Christ Jericho
reversed it to the Walls of Jericho, the actual Walls
of Jericho where he's putting basically his knee onto the
back of someone's head and stretching up back out. So
that one was pretty cool. And I think when you
get like just incredible showing up and the rest of

(28:31):
the Impact players, I think that was pretty good because
you got to see all their shared history and things along.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
Those not too familiar with Just incredible. Do you have
any information about him, like I'm of course I'm familiar
with Jericho, but just Incredible.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
He wasn't gonna me.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
It's a street Yeah, great name. I know, I'm not
as familiar with his work. I know he did a
lot of work obviously a lot of great work in ECW.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
And I think.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
He was a W for a little bit.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
He wasn't.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
He wasn't WCW towards the tail end of their run.
By that point, I had pretty much pushed over to
w W and wasn't really watching the w CW product anymore.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
And I think from there.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
He may have had a brief run in WW that
wasn't didn't amount too much before I think he moved
on to uh TNA and I think was where he
mostly continued his career. So he's one of those guys
that I know of and I know he was a
great worker, but I kind of missed most of his work.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Wayne. Any thing that sticks out to you, anything that
you want to go over that we didn't go before
we go back to Drake because he talked about something else.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
I mean, like, I mean this this opening match, it's
a great opening match. I mean, you have two Canadian
wrestlers who are who know each other, have been tag
team partners back in the early nineties. Uh, and they
traded together. So that's kind of the bet kind of
match you want to see. And we get two other
guys later on this car that are very similar who

(30:05):
know each other inside and out, and that's the kind
of good quality matches we get, you know, I love
those where they're kind of attacking each other and and
reversing each other's moves NonStop, you know, just like basically
like I know everything you're gonna put on me. I
know how to get out of every you know move
you put on me. But it's like, yeah, but I

(30:25):
also know you inside and out. And uh, I don't know.
I thought this was a good opening match. I don't
know a lot about Landstorm. I mean, obviously we know
everything about Jericho. I mean this has been ecwwcwwwe aew.
This guy's missing, you know, not too much left in

(30:45):
his career, but he's still going to this day. I mean, honestly,
we over this car. There isn't a lot of people
on here, who are still wrestling or even a lot,
So it's a very mixed uh you know bag there.
But uh yeah. As for the match itself, I thought
it was great. I do remember don Marie, you know,

(31:06):
because during that Divas era, of course I remember don Marie.
She I think she was the one who's falling out
with Tory Wilson's dad. Yep, right, okay, a heart attack
and they faked his deathly. That's what I know about Don.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Dre. Anything that took out to you, any tidbits that
you liked about this match.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
For me, it was mostly just great to see a
Lance see a Lance Storm match. Landstorm has always been
one of my favorite wrestlers to watch, just because even
though he you know, really never broke out and became
like a main event player, But for me, he was
always one of my favorite wrestlers to watch just because
he's one of the cleanest wrestlers I've ever watched. Like,

(31:57):
if you were to put together a handbook on how
to perform wrestling moves, Lance Storm would be every picture.
Everything about him looked picture perfect, crisp clean, like one
of the best looking dropkicks you could ever hope to
see would be from Lance Storm and like everything looked

(32:19):
about him, which is clean, crisp, flawless. I don't know
if I've ever seen him injure a guy. I don't
know if I've ever seen a botch from him or
anything of that nature. He's probably one of the most again,
one of the most picture perfect wrestlers I've ever seen,
and for him having been removed from wrestling for a while,

(32:40):
he showed no signs of rust in this match, look
like he had missed a beat barely.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, it's it's like a testament to him. I was
always a friend of a friend, a fan of his,
especially when he was in w CW as part of
Team Canada him and was it Elix or Felix Kipper,
I don't remember how it was pronounced. But he was
also one that he was paired up with a couple

(33:07):
of times as a tag team, and I wanted to
see more of him. I'm not sure. Like the way
you're describing them, I'm like, you know what, the best
way to describe him to someone that's new to wrestling,
like my wife, would be like he's like the new
generation Brett Hart, only he didn't get that run. He

(33:29):
didn't get that push because we had already gone forward
as far as the wrestling business, we could know it
was no longer okay for you just to be a
technical Matt Bass like only telling your story in the ring.
You had to not only tell a story in the ring,

(33:50):
but you had to tell a story outside of the ring.
And unfortunately, I think that's one of the things that
Lanstorm fell back on. Like he liked it, he didn't
like skills inside the ring. He was just lacking either
charisma or just finding that something to connect with the audience. Now,
would you, uh dre Wayne, would you recommend anyone go

(34:14):
back and watch this, whether a new fan or a
returning like a fan that hasn't revisited ECW One night
Stand and now wants to because it's a twenty year
anniversary of the show.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
Yeah, I mean usc two good Canadian wrestlers in their prime.

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yeah, I absolutely, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 4 (34:34):
If you're if you're a fan of technical wrestling, this
is a good match, just watch. If you're somebody who
has heard of ECW, but all you know of is
just the extreme stuff that they did and don't and
aren't aware of the other things that ECW brought to
the table before WCW and WWE jumped on it.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Then, yes, this is a match, that's a good show.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Okay, So that and Maria, as you being this smart
market training, do you recommend someone that has never watched
an ECW match, which was you in particular in this review,
that would you recommend someone go out and watch?

Speaker 6 (35:16):
I definitely do this was I love old school wrestling,
and uh, like Wayne mentioned, it's nice to get a
break from the new wrestling or like today's you know,
everyday wrestling. It was rough, it was tough, Like you said,
all those chairs the tables during this whole show, and

(35:36):
this was I think you all mentioned Landstorm's last match
against Jericho. We mentioned that they're old tag team partners,
so that was pretty cool. Also you all talked about
just incredible and he had some good shots. It's worth
a ray visit for me, and I say it's a

(35:57):
smart opener that honors ECW's roots, So revisit with.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Us and answer me. I would recommend that if you
are someone that's new to wrestling and want to know
and find out about Landstorm, as we've already talked about
him here, he's uh, there's a reason why he's been
hired as a trainer, as a producer, as someone to
work backstage, and all of the companies that TNA, WWEH

(36:29):
and a W briefly, so find out why this is
a great place for you to find out why Landstorm
is a very trusted person for these companies to have
them go out there and plout out matches for the talent.
If there's anything else, we can move on to Match

(36:51):
number two, Super Crazy versus TAJII versus a Little Guido
who is known in WW as Nunzio in a triple
threat elimination match, not a triple threat regular match, an
elimination match. Do you know why I love this format

(37:13):
a little bit more than a regular triple threat match?
Why the reason being is because you don't have to
worry about like that third person, like if you're This
kind of makes it a little bit more real. You

(37:33):
don't have like that failsafe where you can protect somebody
because of outside interference or or anything like that because
someone else took the pin or someone else got disqualified.
You have to eliminate one person first before you have
to go through technically another match with the other person
that remains. So this for me as someone that likes

(37:57):
to still have a little bit of realness to the
stories that get intertwined with wrestling is the part why
I loved some of the aspects of BCW.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
That makes sense.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
What about you, guys, Wayne Dre, I.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Mean that's this is new like for me, like a
triple threat elimination match. That's pretty cool because I don't
recall WW ever bringing that gimmick back ever, not in
a triple threat form, not in a fatal four way
type of form. Yeah, I thought it was. I thought
it was pretty unique when they announced it. Uh, and

(38:31):
we got you know, we got three high flying wrestlers.
Well super crazy for sure. And you know, I do
recall little Guido getting just he get that they get
the best of him because he's so small. I recall
like just him getting like wrecked by goldber By being
spared in the Rumble ones. I don't remember too much

(38:54):
about him. I do remember the FBI, I do. I
didn't super crazy if I'm crazy. If I'm crazy, Do
you guys recall him joining the Mexicools. Was that a thing? Okay,
so he's not super crazy?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
No, you're not super crazy, because I think This is
one of the things, like one of the times where
you have someone on the like maybe on a one
night contract. Yeah, and then it ends up extending longer.
He's in the company for like another four or five
more years after this, we just placed on this pay
per view performance.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, and then come on to Jerry to Jerry's been
around for quite some time, you know. I think he
was around to like two thousand and eight, maybe like
it was his last run. He was in some various storylines,
but I recall a lot of to Jerry two when
I was younger. I Yeah, I like this match just

(39:53):
because of the different format, and I think it kind
of went exactly how I thought it was gonna go.
I was like, Oh, they're probably gonna do a big
spot Guido out first, right, I was like, and then
we're gonna get a pretty decent match between these two,
because now it kind of does feel almost like like
two matches in one because you get that triple threat.
It's like, oh, now we get the one on one.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Enjoyed its short six minutes fun.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
We also had a triple threat match last week on
Saturday with water balloons. When my kid was like let's
tag team or a team up, and I'm like, no teams.
There's three of us, everybody for themselves.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
But nobody was.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
No was eliminated. He had a double of shots from
water balloons and he basically quit.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Like I quit.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
If you're watching, go to bed, But Dray, anything that
you particularly stands out to you that you liked about
this match besides the balcony moon.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
Salt, well, yeah, I would say that was the big
thing that stood out. Like I it was good scene
super Crazy again because obviously you know nunz O or
aka Little Guido. We saw little bits of him and
in ww when they tried to resurrect I guess the

(41:28):
FBI in WWE, but it didn't quite hit the same
because they pretty much treated him as a as a joke,
as more of a comedic act in WWE versus w
versus an ECW, where they were treated with a little
bit more of respect, and obviously to Jerry another one
that had a lengthy run in WWE that we're all

(41:49):
familiar with his work, if for nothing else than what
he's done in WWE. But Super Crazy was the one
that I had kind of forgotten about and hadn't seen
in a while. As you know, obviously one of the
one of the great loose doors of the nineties wrestling,
So seeing him was good and obviously all the work
that he had done over the years, and the other

(42:13):
thing that kind of stuck out to me is I
was watching this match. Was also was the fact that
me and Doyle, our other PCW co host.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
We saw.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I'm pretty sure all three of these guys at the
Tribute to Extreme show we went to at WrestleMania last
year in Philly. Wow, Like they were there. I'm and
I know, I know Guido worked and to Jerry worked
the match. I think they worked a match together against
each other. I'm trying to remember super Crazy was a

(42:43):
part of that show or not. I want to say
he was, but I can't hundred remember. But yeah, like
these guys are still to this day, twenty years later,
still going in wrestling.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Doyle, if you're watching, and fans, if you're watching and
you actually know the answer, if these three Super Crazy,
To Jerry and Little Guido rehashed this match at the
WrestleMania forty event last year at the ECW Arena Arena
twenty three hundred, I believe it's Philly. Yeah, commons, I

(43:18):
believe it's you know, let us know and don't forget
to share with a friend. But Maria, you are familiar
with to Jerry, it's your first introduction to super Crazy
and little Wheedle.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
Who were you rooting for super Crazy? Like I have
seen in East Coast West Coast? That's pretty cool. But
have I seen somebody moon salt off a balcony?

Speaker 2 (43:42):
No?

Speaker 6 (43:42):
I was like, holy shit, Like I was impressed eyes
wide open during this match because it was incredible, and
you also that you got to see them work a
match I would have loved to have watched that. I
thought this was very cool. We get a lot of
different wrestlings else introduction for me and I think I

(44:03):
may have seen them before the FBI. What's the acronym stand.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
For full Blood Audience?

Speaker 6 (44:10):
And then who else do we have Jerry in this match?
So I'd say watch it. It was a very bas
it for me. I thought it was very very cool.
For you, that wasol What about you, Dre?

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Is this also something that you would recommend for a
long time fan to revisit or a newer fan who's
for some reason watching the ECW one night stand because
it's the twenty year anniversary of the show.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
I would definitely recommend watching this. Uh, this gives you
a little a bit of an insight to the extreme
that was Extreme Championship wrestling, while also getting some still
good wrestling action between the combatants.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
So yeah, it's definitely worth watching Wayne, Wayne.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Yeah, a unique with you know, a cruiser weights. These
guys are cruiser weights. These guys are all under like
two hundred pounds.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
You want to see that's super crazy. He looks like
he's carrying a little bit more of a haunch in
the front like me. But yeah, I could see they
could still be a little bit of the cruiser weight.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
You know, being a cruiserweight champion at some point.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Yeah, I don't think they actually had a fit. I
think what I think. I remember one instance where they
actually did an official weigh in quote unquote weigh in
and then they go lights out for a but I

(45:47):
remember like one or two instances where they kind of
strip someone at the title for not making weight. But yeah,
I completely you know, like you know where you're getting that.
But yeah, so you would recommend someone go back and
watch this, or newer fans should watch it. Like someone
that's eleven years old who for some reason is deciding

(46:08):
to watch this show.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Mm hmm, yes, okay, absolutely absolutely be a reulation match
and being a cruiserway yeah. I mean you like the flips,
You're like, you want to see that cool spot off
that balcony for sure, tune into.

Speaker 1 (46:25):
This, all right? And that's for me, Like maybe if
you like like a like a unexpected chaos because you
see these guys walking into the ring to Jerry super
crazy and then you're like, there's no way these guys
are going to be doing anything that resembles anything extreme,

(46:46):
you know, and then you end up getting that balcony spot.
So just because you know, uh, something is cool is
gonna happen just because of that spot and you just
don't know I would watch it. It pretty much encapsulates,
like Wayne has said, and like Dre has said, what
the spirit of ECW was like, at any time, anything

(47:12):
extreme can happen. Even if you're watching a super crazy
to Jerry and Nunzio or Little Guido match, you or
you don't think that there's gonna be anything crazy happening,
something super crazy might happen.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
So you're saying, definitely a win, definitely, a win for
international relations, definitely.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
And with that we'll move on to match number three
on the card. We have another current WWE talent returning
back to ECW Ray Mystereo versus Psychosis and a regular match.

(47:56):
And this match goes for six minutes and twenty two seconds. Wait,
why did you kick us off here, Psychosis?

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yeah? I don't know much about Psychosis obviously, Ray Mystereo
right when and a young Rain Mystereo really young? How young?
You can just tell by how many tattoos he has
on by this time? But uh, yeah, young Ray Mystereo.
I heard the crowd did not like the fact that

(48:27):
Psychosis took his mask off. I think they really wanted
him to keep his mask on. I also heard in
this match, Ray was not happy with the way this
match went. I didn't go the way he planned. I
think having these two loose doors go out, I think
it was awesome, Like I really enjoyed the match, but

(48:48):
I was also disappointed because they did not get enough time.
These guys only had like six minutes twenty three seconds,
and and I kind of felt that way with a
few other matches on this car, like like this didn't
get enough time to cook, and we have compared to like,
you know, me and Dre talked about a lot compared
to the modern day pay per views. We have seven

(49:10):
matches on this card, you know, we were doing like
four five matches now on average. So it shows the
difference of like, you know, this pay per view was
still like two and a half hours long, I believe. Yeah,
so you know, it's a lot of I understand. I

(49:30):
don't know. I think most of it was just like
promo videos, just of old ECW stuff. I didn't really
see any wasteful time, but like, yeah, these matches are short,
and as much as I enjoyed this match, I really
wish it could have gone longer. I don't I freakd
the Psychosis end up going like to w W afterwards

(49:53):
and just also joined up with Super Crazy and the
Mexic Cools or or am I wrong with that as well?

Speaker 1 (50:00):
I don't remember Psychosis, Drake. Do you have any memory
of Psychosis being in the Mexicools.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
That I do not have any memory of because by
this point, well not too long after, this is what
I kind of fell out with.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Wrestling in general.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
So the Mexicools is not a faction that I have
a whole lot of memory of, so I couldn't tell
you one way or the other if Psychosis was a
part of that group. He might have been for all
I know, but I couldn't tell you one way or
the other.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
First off, how dare you second of all? Sir? Yes,
he was. And apparently they get Juvie the juice. Yeah,
the juices lose, So Wayne, you remembered correctly, we get
Psychosis and super Crazy as part of the mexicools that

(51:00):
they've used later on this particular year of two thousand
and five.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I recall them driving down in John Deere's and I
remember they had a stick on this set that said
Huan Deer and I remember just laughing because I was like,
that was pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
That about you, Maria super Crazy, I mean ray Masterio Psychosis.

Speaker 6 (51:23):
I was excited to see like a young Raymastereo. Like
you said, I thought this was an okay match. Was
this a good match for you or is this kind
of a pass?

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I think to me, this is kind of a pass
because like Joey Styles and the mcfolier. By the way,
the Joey Styles is doing a fantabulous job. You know,
bringing up the reins of being the commentator on here.
It's a shame that Bence kind of drove him away

(51:52):
from the business because of all the notes that he
would be chirping in his ear throughout his calls. But yeah,
like they mentioned that they've been feuding for like five
hundred times quote unquote, but they like dre pointed it out,
and one pointed out, they don't get enough time to

(52:13):
cut six minutes and twenty two seconds and we're gonna
see this. Unfortunately throughout most of this car there's only
like two or maybe three matches that go over ten minutes,
and the rest of ure over like barely six seven minutes,

(52:34):
and then the rest of it's pack your video packages.
It's basically like if someone just like told them, you
know what, we don't have any time, so just pop
in the Rise and Fall of the VCW and just
play the montages that we have on that DVD in
between the time. So I can't really recommend this match,

(52:57):
but I can't. I remember them having the A W
C W because I told Marie and like, this isn't
Psychosis's regular costume or ring gear. I remember him having
the black with the white stripes, and I showed the
picture and his mask on. That's how I remember psychosis.

(53:21):
And like everyone probably that this ECW event, was disappointed
when Psychosist took off his mask. I was disappointed, but
not because he took off his mask, because he came
to the ringer wearing a white and like you've I
have never seen you wear all white. You've always been
black with a white stripe. So bring back that psychosis.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
Right, So like my earlier you were talking about how
people were upset. They were pissed off because he took
off his mask. And for anyone that's Aluja purist, they're
not supposed to take off their masks. So people were upset.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
But he had already lost his mask. I don't remember
where if it was somewhere in Mexico he had, like
if he had alta where he had to lose his mask.
And some people just carry it with them and then
they take it off. I have I have to look
into it, like if you're watching, and you know, please

(54:19):
leave it in the comments and correct me because some
of these questions, Uh, the Maria poses to me, I
hear live and I don't have enough. I don't do
the research, and I think I do some in depth
research and then this one comes out of left field.
So but I am yes, if you're wondering if we

(54:47):
read off scripts or like some of it is of
our notes, but not everything, I'm pro us. So anyway,
as far as if I would recommend it, I think
the only thing would w be watching would be that
like that guillotine leg drop that's like cost gifts to Ray.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Oh my god, yeah, how he hits so many? He's
his by just like flips over.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Yeah, I have I have it here, there we go,
let's see here in the show it to the crowd. Yeah,
look at that one. That one was pretty crazy to me.
So if you want to go back and watch some
highlights of that, please like find that highlight reel and
watch it over again, because I've never seen a guillotine

(55:32):
leg drop like the way Ray flips over and that
it was it kind of like how did he end
up flipping like that? Because like he's not he doesn't
have a very long body, so for him to actually
still kind of.

Speaker 8 (55:46):
Flip over that was very funny. I enjoyed when they
showed that again. Yeah, and then but as far as
like if this is worth rewatching as far as longtime fan, No,
but if a newer fan, like if you want to
see more of raymistereos work, or if you or maybe

(56:09):
if I find it, I'll post it in the comments,
Like if I can find that one Raymisterio and Psychosis
match from w CW that I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (56:16):
Of, I'll go ahead and link that. But if you
just want to get like a little taste of the
glory of Psychosis and a Ray mystereo match, go ahead
and watch this. But it's definitely a patch for me, Stray.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
Yeah, I'm in complete agreement with you this one. This
match is a pass. I mean, it's nice seeing Psychosis
again and seeing a young girl Ray, you know Ray
with the baggy pants. But as far as this match itself,
it's neither one of their best work.

Speaker 3 (56:51):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I barely you can barely even count it as a
representation of their feud or their work at ECW or
w c W for that matter. You know, Raise, This
isn't as good as Raised working INWCW. That's where he
did something. It was best work before going to the
E Psychosis again, his best work, you know, WCW basically

(57:15):
took ECW's formula.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
You know this. The only thing you can give this
a credit for would be.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
To highlight the fact that ECW was showcasing luchadors in
the States before anyone else. They were the first ones
really bringing those loucha doors into the States and giving
them national TV exposure. And then WCW saw what they
were doing and basically plucked them all and said come

(57:43):
over here for more money. And then WCW showcased them
and showcased them respectfully. But WCW gets a lot more
of the credit for showing showcasing, you know, luchador's wrestling.
Then they probably should, because it was really ECW doing
it first. But this match is itself not really a
good representation of it. And as we already talked about,

(58:07):
the fans also kind of rejected this match as well
at points. One Soon as they liked soon a Psydcoasts
took his mask off, fans didn't like it. They started
chanting put your mask on, because that's what they were
used to. They wanted to see Psychosis with the mask.
Soon as Ray's music hit, you notice he'd Ray as

(58:29):
popular as he was, which was super popular in two
thousand and five and this arena he got no pop?
Why because it was a WCW. I mean, it was
the WWE music. It was that who's that jumping out
the sky r E?

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Why?

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Like, that's not what people wanted to hear. This, The
WWE of this match is what really messed it up.
He wonted the match by doing the six to one
nine into the West Coast Pop. It got no pop
people boot In fact, booed the six one nine when
he did Why because he never did the sixty one
nine in ECW.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
He didn't do the six one nine in WCW.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
That was a pure WWE product, a pure WWE move
that he was doing. And people, these ECW faithful crowd
did not come here to see no WWE shit. They
wanted to see ECW stuff, And there was not as
much ECW showcasing in this match as fans wanted. And

(59:28):
I think that's why the fans were mostly down on
this match, and for that very.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Reasons why I would give it a pass.

Speaker 4 (59:34):
Like Carlos said, if you want to see them, look
up their WCW match or look up some of their
matches from actual ECW, because they're all way better than
what this was.

Speaker 9 (59:45):
Wayne hey Man, Raymond Threw injured but still on the
active roster today in five crazy.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Yeah and his son.

Speaker 10 (01:00:00):
But yeah, I mean you pass this match, like you guys,
go back and watch older episodes, our older matches of
these two.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
If you want to get the full Luca experience.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
All right, and with that we move on to uh, well,
but we have RVD cutting a promo because he has
torn his a c L or or something along this line.
So he wanted to be part of the pay per
view since it was his idea to have this reunion
show and he couldn't be there. He's talking to the

(01:00:41):
invaders up on the balcony, which is either I think
it's Team SmackDown out there, yeah, yeah, And then then
the lights go out and Ryan no, wait, then Rhino
appears in the ring because he's not with the w
w E and he is going to start attacking RVD.

(01:01:02):
And then the lights go out, and who is to
appear but the genocidle homicidal suicidal Sabo recipes say, and
he comes to the defense of his friend RVD, and
then the impromptu match begins between these two guys, Rhino

(01:01:23):
and Sabo Maria, you have seen Rhino. I don't remember
if many spirits many scores. You were there in twenty
twenty four in Philadelphia when we were sitting across from

(01:01:44):
Sabu and having lunch with that man.

Speaker 6 (01:01:49):
Yeah, I really enjoyed seeing this match. Also, he was
wearing no shirt during lunch as well, so.

Speaker 5 (01:01:56):
He was thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
He was living the gimmick even outside of a ring.
Sabu was the recipes, just giving all the fans what
they wanted to see him walking around showing this car
on his chest.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
Yeah, I was like okay, and then Carlos went and
to explain, so you know, it was an honor.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
I thought.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
One of the good spots for me was when Saboo
went through a table.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
I think you're talking about this one. These are one
of the few pictures I was able to find where
he gets a chair and RVD is only in Rhino
and he gives them like a kind of like a
geyteen esque leg drop with the chair. He completely misses
with the chair, but he certainly does hit that leg drop.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Throws the chair at Rhino at some point. When he
throws it, I mean he throws it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Like seeing all of these chair shots not only in
this match, but later on the card. I'm like, geez,
you do not see any of those chair shots happening anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:03:08):
For a good reason, right, But I was just like
holy ship through a lot of us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I was like, whoa small arena that they were in
that there's chair shots really echoed?

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
Yeah. So so with this, Maria as one of our
marks and training here, do you recommend a newer fan
or a longtime fan who hasn't seen this pay per
viewing the magic go back and revisit.

Speaker 5 (01:03:36):
I do recommend the erie vis with us.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
We have saboo, we have like you said, chairs tables,
we get a little bit of a botch, we get
his big pants, his parachute pants. Is that what they're calling?
Really good match? Very old school, Like you said, you're
not seeing chair shots like that anymore more. This is

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incredible for me to watch, and I'd recommend that you repit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
It was good. Yeah, Wayne, what about you? Do you
recommend anyone go back and revisit newer fan or longtime fan?

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Wait?

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
Also, rd D like incredible Sorry of r v D.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
You know, uh yeah, I enjoyed this. I mean it
sucks because you know I heard that this whole, this
whole pay per view idea was Rob Van Dams. He's
the one who pitched it and and he's not the
one who's able to take part in it. And I
also felt like for this pay per view, this is
where it started to pick up for me. This is

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where I started to like really enjoy it because this
is where we started using more and more weapons and
we started seeing blood and god the chair shots. Ah,
he just took that chair and just yeah, and it's
it sucks for RVD two, you know, being being injured

(01:05:03):
and just timing. He says, you know, this is worse
than missing WrestleMania, you know. And I think this is
also before he yeah, it's also a year before he
wins his first WWE title but.

Speaker 1 (01:05:17):
Eventually turned back into the ECW Heavyweight Championship title.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Yeah yeah, so you know I understand he was like,
this is like my greatest moment in wrestling, but I
was like, hey, you probably have another one or two.
So uh yeah, I mean I enjoyed this. I like
the whole Sabu coming out of nowhere with the lights.
I thought that was so cool. The way to introduce
him into the crowd. You know this is back when

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Rhino was in great shape, a lot better shape than
he is later in his career. Yeah, the gore was
so cool back then. He's just so good with the gore.
So yeah, definitely if this is where it starts to
pick out, go back and watch this match. I think
it's pretty good. The speech too, the speech for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Go ahead and where you get to mine.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Okay, yeah, yeah, this is where you're getting into the
e c W of it, all the ECW that we know,
of the e CW that people talk about. You're getting
the names that everybody remembers, Rob Van dam Rhino, Sabu
and as much as you know obviously you know, I'm

(01:06:36):
team Gore all day. I think, out of all the
spears and whatever in wrestling, who's got the best one?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Rhino?

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
I will say it every time, Rhino's gore is the
best one out of everybody's. I put it above our
tribal chief, Roman reigns, I put it above Edge, I
put it above Goldberg, all of them. The Gore was
it for me. So seeing him lay out Rob Van
dam with that, yeah, put a smile on my face.
And yeah, Rob and Damn, speaking from the heart, you know,

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you felt bad for him because, as Wayne said, this
was his idea. He was the one who pitched it
and got it off the ground to get going, you know,
and for him to not be able to work a
match really the way you know he wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
You know, you fell for him.

Speaker 4 (01:07:21):
But then those lights go out and they come back
up and you just see Sabu and in his famous post.
Yeah that was probably some WWE production, but that's the
moment where it worked of you know, him showing up
and them having that impromptu match absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Fire all day.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
And even Rob Van dam managing to get at least
a bit of the you know Van Daminator in as.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
He could with the chair, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
So yeah, absolutely, this is as Wayne said, this is
where the show really starts to pick up, because you're
getting the W the ECW that everybody knows and remembers
starting with this match.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, and I think you can call this one another
clean sweep Like this was like unhinged. It was a
violent match. It was a crowd pleasing match. You know,
they had like please go out and watch this. If
you haven't watched this and you're watching this, first of all,
give us a like don't forget to follow us on

(01:08:25):
all social media's, whether it's blue Sky, threads, Twitter, yes
I call it Twitter, Yes, don't come after me. But
this is definitely one if you have not watched this
pay per view like where you get to see the
kind of work that Sabu got to do, why he
earned the name of being a homicidal, genocidal, suicidal you

(01:08:50):
know man. And there's a lot of work that sab
has done previously before this match, and maybe we'll go
down in the archives of whatever Peacock has available for us,
and maybe in other means too. But if you're watching

(01:09:12):
and you know of other matches, please feel free to
drop it in the comment that you would want Maria
to see. But yeah, I definitely would recommend when you
were fan to go out and watch this. If you
are someone that is a little bit of a younger age,
please do not go and watch this without having a
parent watch it along with you. But if you are

(01:09:33):
a long time fan and for some reason have forgotten
how great of a match this is. Also with the
caveat that you, I think you kind of need this
heartfelt speech that RVD is giving to you in the beginning,
So I think you need to watch this. I think
it's like a fifteen to sixteen minute chunk of time
between the match and the RVD speech if you watched

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it all, because I think this is like one of
the greatest promos that RVD ever cuts. Like RVD is
not like the greatest mic talker. I'm not sure if
like the writers weren't able to find his voice, and
I'm not sure if he's the one that's talking, like
if he wrote this himself. But I think this is

(01:10:20):
like one of the times where RVD is just reading
from the heart and this kind of hits a little
bit more in the fields and you get like the
whole emotion, no like set up, and then someone's here
to ruin it. So it kind of like it's like
a whole story, like a mini storyline in it, Like

(01:10:42):
here's this guy pouring his heart out, he's saying that
he can't be there, and he's talking, he's getting antagonized
by the big company, the brand by SmackDown, and now
he's about to be taken out because he's you know,
he's injured, and who who else comes to the rescue
but one of his closest and best friends and they

(01:11:04):
get to take it to him kind of like a
little like maybe a couple of months of storytelling, all
done like in the span of sixteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:11:12):
So definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Worth of rewatch.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
Definitely a gory match, ye.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
And speaking of gory, we get to another match, the
son of Gory Garrero, Eddie Garrero versus Chris Benoa e
c W Talent. Then I went to w c W
Talent and now WWE Talent and this match goes for

(01:11:47):
oh lots of time here, God, Maria, do you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
Have thirty eight seconds?

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Seconds? Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Lane?

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Yeah, this is one of the few matches that I
know went, but I wasn't sure if this was the
eleventh minute.

Speaker 5 (01:12:01):
So they say that Eddie was reportedly pissed this night.
Did you all hear that?

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Do you know why I heard that too? I guess
maybe he just didn't like the way the match was finished.
I just didn't give the way he planned.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't their best work in this match,
not that it was bad by any means, because you know,
it's they're impossible for these two to have a bad match,
but yeah, compared to what we've seen of the both
of them at their best this This wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
It was okay, but I think it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Was kind of slow moving. Yeah, it wasn't.

Speaker 6 (01:12:39):
There wasn't a lot of excitement for me yea and
feeling on the controversy around Benoit. So I was a
little surprised when I saw him. You know, we all
know that, but you have two technical wrestlers that you
know are very good wrestlers. I expected a little bit
more and I didn't get that from this match.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
What do you think.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
I think it's like everyone's echoing here, like we've seen
these guys rustle before, whether it's an ECW or w
WCW or even now that they made it to WWE. Right,
you know, this match goes for ten minutes thirty eight seconds,

(01:13:23):
but it still felt like this match should have been
like a sixteen or eighteen minute match. So maybe that's
why Eddie, he might have been told in the curtain
that hey, we're going to cut you short here, and
maybe that's why he was a little bit pissed off.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
I have no saying that allegedly he was passed because
he was left off of the main events or left
so he phoned this in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
He was passed, So if you know, yeah, if you
are watching, comment if you're listening, because we also you know,
extract the audio and put it up on all podcast platforms.
I feel free to e mail us every visiting Mania
at gmail dot com if you know, in particular, if

(01:14:04):
you are at Guerrero in particular, like maybe Childo Guerrero Junior,
Eddie's nephew, if you know why your uncle phone this
match in and was very pissed off, please send an email.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
But after he lost the w W Championship not too
long ago to j is it to JBL?

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
He lost it to JB.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
He lost it by June because he wanted earlier.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Yeah, yeah, he just wanted no way out earlier in
the year, Yes, earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
And then and then he had it at WrestleMania, and
I thought he lost because let's let's remember guys, like
he's only a few months away before he passes away
in November. And you know, and I don't think he
wasn't championed by that either.

Speaker 4 (01:14:50):
No, And I do remember when this is obviously, once
JBO had changed to this gimmick of you know, the
stop guy John Bradshaw Layfield basically from Bradshaw, he became
champion when he feuded with Guerrero and beat Guerrero, and
that's how he became ww E champion. But I don't

(01:15:14):
remember exactly when that happened. It may have been happened
right around this time or shortly before or there after.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
All right, So I pulled up this because I could
not remember we recorded this one. But Eddie had a
match with Raymond Stereo, so he did not have the
title as of WrestleMania twenty one, so Backlash was right
after that, and JB L well, he was not even

(01:15:48):
on the card for Backlash, so after you know what
was Judgment Day?

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Yeah, so it was after this because this was what
June twelfth, Yeah, June twelfth, So they were in this
So in other words, Guerrero and JBO were in the
middle of.

Speaker 3 (01:16:08):
Their feud, so that wrote I believe.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
So yeah, I guess that would make sense why Guerrero
wouldn't be participating in the main event, which was basically
the brawl between E c W and excuse me, Raw
and SmackDown, because probably from Vince's perspective, it wouldn't have
been a good look to have the w w E
champion fighting on the side of E c W against

(01:16:35):
Raw and SmackDown competitors. That's probably why they left him
out of the main event.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
But still like to these are two great wrestlers.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
You know, whenever we we we have to come across
this controversial mishap with with ben Wat, I always put
aside of who he was, and I always think of
just him as the wrestler. So like, that's why I
thought this was a pretty decent match, just just hey,
didn't get enough time. Yet again, I agree, like five

(01:17:07):
six more minutes these guys could have put on an
even better show, and the fact that one of them
was not fully invested into the match probably made a
world of a difference. But yeah, we got to see
Eddie Gerer get busted open pretty bad.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Yeah. I was trying to find the spot where he
got cut around the whole little tea zone area and
they couldn't find them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
So yeah I can find it either, but smashed nonetheless, So.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Uh, Dre, you also say that this is a pass,
that's correct.

Speaker 4 (01:17:40):
Yeah, Yeah, this was more. This wasn't really a quote
unquote e c W match. This was more of just
a WWE match taking place at an ECW show and
with a little blood thrown in to kind of quote
unquote e cw it up. But this, like I said,
it's not neither one of their best work.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Agree And with that we move on to the next match,
Mike Awesome versus Mecado to knockau.

Speaker 5 (01:18:15):
Do you think that this a B match of the night?

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
I think it was. It was and fifty two seconds match.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Like was it one of the best match.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
It upset me the fact that they did not sell
it as much as they should, as much damage as
chair show is meant to take. There should have been
more selling power bombs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think I kind of
agree with Wayne, but like I'm not gonna nippick like that.
There's very heavy spots, high spots that happened on this
match and they all get done. I think there's maybe

(01:19:04):
one batch on this particular match, but they kind of
like work through it and try it again.

Speaker 5 (01:19:11):
But style say too awesome. He is not awesome?

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
He I'm not sure, I asked, oh, just saying he's
an asshulte. Kids, if you're watching, she would be watching.
But if you're watching this, if we made it to
maybe fifteen eighteen years and this channel still going, thank

(01:19:39):
you for watching us if you're watching in the future,
but you don't worry about what your mother's saying. I'm
basically trying to get to. But yeah, definitely something that
this match kind of stuck out for me, you know,
just when Mike Golson just starts already with the suicide dive. Yeah,

(01:20:00):
and I remember Mike awesome, but I may remember him
more towards the end of WCW when he was that
seventies guy and I kind of liked that gimmick. I was.
I'm not gonna lie I was. I was kind of
a fan of the disco infernal gimmick too, and once
that whole thing went south with him, you know, I

(01:20:23):
kind of lost track of it. But him this infernal,
that seventies guy, and then who was the guy dre
maybe you know Alex right, who is the guy that
used to dance his way and go like.

Speaker 3 (01:20:39):
This, oh yeah one kid, alex Right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Yeah, there you go. That guy was always entertaining for me.
But yeah, that's the whole little trio that I remember,
like kind of had this little like dancing or like
kind of like that seventies aesthetic gimmick that kind of
worked for me. I don't know why, but it just did.
But that's the reason why I remember more of Mike
Assome a little bit more. What about you, Drake.

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
Yeah, this match is pretty much what you would you
expect from these two guys.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
They were.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
They were probably about as close as you would get
to quote unquote big men in e CW. You know,
this wasn't this wasn't the Land of the Giants that
you know. ECW was not known as the Land of
the Giants. So Mike awsoin was their big guy. But
he still could wrestle like a midsize guy and would

(01:21:32):
still pull off, you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
Know, aerial moves and hardcore moves.

Speaker 4 (01:21:36):
It wasn't just like I'm just a powerhouse guy that's
just gonna do a bunch of slams and that's it.
So yeah, and these two had a long story rivalry
with each other. So just watching these two just try
to beat the crap out of each other again textbook
e c W stuff, and it was it was great
to watch.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Wayne.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
I don't I don't know either of these guys. I
think I've heard of Mike awesome when he came over
to WW a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
But the other guy, Yeah, I have no information on
Massado Tanaka. I don't see him like popping up anywhere else. Yeah,
I mean, I'm sorry if you're like watching this in
your a Masado Tanaka fan, that I didn't do my research,
and you're more than welcome to comment and give us
a little bit more of matches or where he had

(01:22:29):
his big run to come to notoriety. But I just
didn't want to go down that rabbit hole things like that, unfortunately.
But I completely agree with Wayne, like these guys have
the chemistry, and these guys have something and it's just
something where you you you know, you see that complete

(01:22:51):
opposite the guy who completes you, the guy that knows
what moves sell, how to sell for you, how to
make you look great, but also have them look great.
And the one spot that I took to this here
is this DDT through the table and I cool. I
think this is the one where I mentioned there was
kind of a botch one, but they still commit to

(01:23:13):
getting this spot in and I loved it, Like there's
this there's the power bomb that they have and I
couldn't find a picture, but Mike got some power bombs.
Masado Tanaka through a table on the side of the ring,
ye outside of the ring, and that was another great spot.

(01:23:34):
I can't say anything else about this match. I think this,
like my wife pointed out here, smart marketing training is
match of the night for me. I definitely recommend that
if you are a newer wrest newer fan to wrestling,
and you're watching this and you've made it this far,

(01:23:54):
but you will not be disappointed. This match has one
of those things where I mentioned earlier, like you don't
know what's going to happen. You don't know when this
match is going to be extreme because, as e c
W says, anytime there's no d q's, you can bring
barbed wire, you could bring tables, you could bring ladders,

(01:24:16):
you could bring kendlesticks, you can bring torches, anything anytime.

Speaker 6 (01:24:22):
Like w W f E what I'm like, I'm.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Like, damn, yeah, that was I was the thing about
d c W.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
There were every like you know, w W has to
make a point of saying this room, this match is
no disqualification, or this match is a street fighter. Every
e c W match was that. I didn't have to
tell you it was. No d q DQ did not
exist in the e c W.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
So tables under the ring, and.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
I wonder what kind of a bolk deal Paul Haynen
was getting those tables. But I think we can call
this a clean sweep unless someone has any objections.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
But yeah, yeah, I definitely watched this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Yeah all right, and with this we come to the
last match. Unless someone has something to say about the
heartfelt speech that Paul Hayman says before this match.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Oh all right, just as I say, I think I
love when he's sitting there breaking down some of the
guys up there, and and you know telling I think
one of my favorite lines was to JBL you know,
the only reason why you've been championed for years because
Triple As didn't want to work Tuesdays. Yeah, back down

(01:25:48):
on Tuesday. So but you know, Paul Hayman brought up
you know Matt Hardy, you know that got a good pop,
and you know, Edge, being as cartoonish as he is,
is spitting out his beer and stuff. Uh yeah, go ahead, day.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
I was saying that it may not hit as hard
watching it now, but back then, at the time watching it,
it was phenomenal watching this promo, just seeing Paul Haman
come out there with the black trench code and the
and the headset on and all that stuff. Just classic
Paul Hayman, which is something we had not seen since

(01:26:29):
e c W because seeing him in obviously in WWE,
he's got his WWE hat on and you know, he's
just in a regular suit and he's Paul Hayman WWE employee.
So seeing him go back to the E c W
and really basically cut it's about as close to a
shoot promo as you could get at the In the moment, oh,

(01:26:52):
it was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
I hit that ship up and we loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
I like that he starts off with these are and tears.
There's just something wrong with my eyes. So it's weird
to see Paul like maybe one hundred, one hundred and
fifty pounds slider and with smaller.

Speaker 4 (01:27:16):
And yeah, with emotion and you know, yeah, before he
did it at the Fall of Fame speech, this was
when we saw you know, Paul dust off the trench
coat in the headset.

Speaker 3 (01:27:26):
And all that. It was again, it was beautiful to
see in the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
It was like all the video that you saw before
during this pay per view, like he was like there's
even one rumor it is like seeing Paul Hayman and
he's even skinnier than he is now when he's coming
out to do this impromptu shoot speech and she's like,
who's that, and like, that's Paul Hayman, that's the Wise Man,

(01:27:51):
like maybe thirty five years ago now, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Like real old school people know him before he even
before he went by his regular name of Hayman, back
when he was Paul the Dangerously in the old NWAWCW
days and he actually had a full head of hair
and he had the Dangerous Alliance. Want to see how
skinny he was, then go look at dumb pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
So with that then we'll get into this match. So
the Dudley Boys come back, Tommy Dreamer comes back, and
the Sandman comes back, and we get a tag team
between the Dudley Boys, Tommy Dreamer and the Sandman. And
as they're gearing up to get this match going, who

(01:28:37):
comes by and starts to interact with the match? But
friend of the podcast of PCW, the Blue Meanie and
the Blue World Order Stevie Richards and Kid Cash, Axel
Rotten and Ball's Mahoney all decides to get into this
particular I guess skirmish before the match starts, so we're

(01:29:02):
already getting a little bit more of ECW originals into
this match. And I think the Blue Meani like he
had his issues with WWE, because I remember he was
there early, like in what two thousand and two thousand
and one something like that, when they had the Blue

(01:29:23):
Mieni as part of the what were they called? Uh
they were called? Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
I don't remember what it was called, but it was
like a bunch of weirdos together and they had that
real tall guy, oh something. He was part of the
oddities for a little bit, was it he? And then
uh yeah, so thank you? But yeah, I mean like
I had not seen the Blue Mini on the w

(01:29:55):
W show, I think until you know this particular one.
But I was a fan of the Dudley Boys. I
was a fan of Timmy Dreamer and kind of the
sad Man a little bit, but not as much. What
about was.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
This a match?

Speaker 6 (01:30:13):
Was it a Barbara? I thought it was a lot
of fun and then it was pretty cool. I had
a good time with this match.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
All right, Dre Okay, I think did we lose dra
Oh he's muted for some reason. Let me see. Okay,
they chose to mute themselves as my apologies. It was

(01:30:42):
he came to me when I was when I muted myself.
How weird.

Speaker 3 (01:30:46):
Yeah, in the middle of recording. But anyway, back to
this main event. This was e c W. Like I said, like,
just like I said about.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
The the previous match with the segment with Rob Van, Damon,
Sabu and Rhino, this main event, this is e c W.
This is what your friends told you about. This is
the legend of e c W, all summed up in
this main event. Some of the biggest icons of e

(01:31:21):
c W, the Dudley's, Tommy Dreamer, the sad Man, even
a other you know.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
Less quote unquote.

Speaker 4 (01:31:33):
Yeah, lesser acts, but no less important Blue world order.
You know, the hardcore stuff you heard about, it's in
this match. The blood you've been told about, it's in
this match. The tables in this match, flaming tables, all
of it is if if if you can consolidate e
c W into one thing on this show, it's this

(01:31:54):
main event. This is what you were told about. And
they packed it all in as much as they could
into this match. It was pure anarchy, pure chaos. Fuck
a storyline, fuck a script, who cares.

Speaker 3 (01:32:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Yeah, we had everything in this man, I agree, j
all all the all the chair shots, all the tables,
all the kendo sticks, the we had Spike Dudley come back.
We had uh, you know, the flaming table. Like by
the way, there was a lot of lighter fluid he
put on there, yes, spraying and spraying, and I'm just like.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Yeah, flame, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
It reminds me that there's a scene in the Simpsons
where Homer's lighting the grill. He's like the lighter fluid
in the grill and he's he goes through like three
bottles and you're like, oh my god's in the lights
blow But he lights it. It just goes. It's just
like the small flame. But it's still cool. Like anytime
we do a flame, a fire spot that goes well,

(01:32:58):
you know, and crap, Tommy Dreamer lost a lot of blood.
It all started with that cheese Greater.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Yeah, rusting out that cheese greater man.

Speaker 2 (01:33:08):
That was rough. And you know what though, ship like
that now when you see Bubbaret and you see Devon
and you wonder why their foreheads are so freaking cut
up a beet tricky, you know, it looks awful man.

(01:33:29):
I mean, yeah, sneezes too hard, he'll either poop himself
or he'll bleed.

Speaker 1 (01:33:39):
The Butcher is another guy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:41):
To Butcher was one Dusty Rose.

Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
Yeah, a lot of those wrestlers whose foreheads are just
permanently tore up and scarred.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
Yeah, from bleeding and just everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Yeah, but like, do you recommend guys anyone go back
a newer fan, older fan like us? I mean watch
your wrestling. Do you recommend anyone go back and rewatch this?

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Absolutely? Yeah, I mean for the justin for the brawl alone,
and then not just that, we get stone Cold Steve
Auston at the end of this, Like who would have
thought would have even been on the card. I mean,
grant he wasn't e c W wrestler at some point,
but to get stone Cold and to get the big
brawl at the end of roll SmackDown versus e CW.

(01:34:29):
You know the blue Meenie spot. Uh, you know, Taz
coming back and choking out. So there's so much to
just unpack in just that couple of minutes. That the
way to end the show. So I think it was great.

Speaker 4 (01:34:44):
Yeah, I would say the main event definitely watched the aftermath,
and obviously the entrance of Stone Cold, which I remember
at the time, surprised everybody because you know, he was
in ECW, but it was one of the almost it
was brief. Obviously they show him a little bit in

(01:35:05):
the in the vignettes of the past. But the thing is,
he was never a wrestler in ECW. ECW was kind
of his in between phase where after he had been
released by W by Eric Bischoff. In WCW, he was
injured and he couldn't wrestle, but he was still, you know,
needed stuff to do, so he was in ECW he

(01:35:28):
was basically cutting all those vignettes and promos and stuff
that you would see. So that's really he credits ECW
as being where he found his voice, where he learned
how to really talk on a mic, and he got
that work in in ECW to become, you know, the
talker that he was when he finally came to WW

(01:35:48):
and then ultimately became Stone Cold. So it was a
surprise to everyone that he did show up because you know,
to most people, you think stonecalls Steve Vasa, you just
think attitude air a WWF. Most people don't think about
his time in ECW or his time in w CW
and stuff, even though they're very because earlier in his

(01:36:09):
career he wasn't huge or as big then. But for
him to show up for this and you know, give
that nod to his his past, his history, give those
that props. The ECW was good to see. And I
mean the whole ECWWW brawl. I'm neither here nor there
about that part. To me, that just kind of that's

(01:36:31):
the w w E. That's the WWE production part of it,
where it's not so much ECW's you know, they slapped
their mind yet then a this is a WWE product
and they still gott to insert themselves in it. I
could have done without that. Yeah, it was nice to
see Taz come back and you know, participate, but that
part from the brawl on I can do without.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
Yeah. I'm definitely uh on Dre's point here as far
as the w talent being involved, I would have loved
it better if they weren't involved at all. You did
not have to have Teams SmackDown and Team Raw show up,
especially when some of that talent was actually wearing ECW shirts.

(01:37:13):
How can you say their Team SmackDown and Team Raw
when you have Jonathan Coachman and someone else wearing the
e c W one night staying merch.

Speaker 4 (01:37:24):
Yeah, even if it's like, you know, he's got the
guy crossed out or whatever on it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
But as for me, I would definitely if you watch this,
like Wayne and I think Dre pointed out here, just
watch the whole the whole last maybe I think it's
twenty twenty five minutes. The beginning of this match started
at the beginning of this match because like the Sandman

(01:37:49):
and has like the longest entrance into this ring, So
spash forward into where they're finally going to start the match.
When once you see the Blue World Order show up,
that's when you know the match is gonna start. So
start there and watch it all the way to the
end so you can get everything as far as that's concerned.
But if if you're just wanting to revisit this match alone,

(01:38:11):
it does have some good spots. It does have, you know,
lots of blood, lots of tables, lots of fire, and
lots of grating. If you want like a little short
synopsis of what the EACW time was and what ECW

(01:38:33):
talent that made it to the grandest stages of them
all except for maybe the Salmon, but time and Dreamer
I think was in the Somania event. Even if it
was like the opening night, you still made a WrestleMania
card like the Dark matches. But still I'm digressing. Definitely

(01:38:54):
go out and, uh, you know, watch the whole thing
encompassed as a whole. But if don't, I think if
you just want a little synopsis of it of the match,
sure go ahead if you were a newer fan, but
if you're a longtime fan, you want to see the
whole thing.

Speaker 6 (01:39:09):
Okay, So do we have any final thoughts or anything
that you want to talk about as far as any
episodes coming up for pc.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
W oh PCW. Well, we got Night Champions. That's that's
literally tomorrow one pm in the afternoon because they're all
the way in Saudi Arabia. Actually, while we're getting ready
for this, they had they already had SmackDown. I already
read all the spoils. But uh, yeah, we're just busy, busy, busy,

(01:39:44):
non stop.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
Yah. So you're gonna have your recap of the Night
of Champions review or.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
Yeah, we're Night Champions post show should be coming up soon.
We might have to do it a little bit earlier
because I'm going on vacation. But yeah, absolutely never stops, Dre.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
Do you have anything that's not PCW related?

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
Nothing, really I can say that's not PCW related. Only
final thoughts I would say about this particular one night
stand show is don't bother with anything after this. I
wish WWE would have just left this as a one
time only deal because the follow ups none of them

(01:40:33):
even remotely match what this first one was. They're not
as good, they're not as special, They're much more WWE
produced things than this, which still felt like ECW even
though it had obviously WWE branding on it. It's still
felt about as close to ECW as you're ever gonna

(01:40:54):
get without watching actual ECW.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Yeah, I could probably agree with all you guys like
this match, like, regardless of how Wayne feels about John Cena,
like he wanted to see ECWE Nights in two thousand
and six because John Cena was in it, but do
not watch anything else. Vince saw how great the pay

(01:41:20):
per view byes were for this and how much it
was getting talked about on the interwebs wrestling community, so
he decided to make not only this two thousand and
six one, but like three more iterations, and he had
the brilliant idea of making ECW as the third brand,

(01:41:41):
which caused a lot more chaos and eventually dies out
I think in two thousand and nine twenty ten, So
it's a very short lived run. It did not deserve it.
This is why we had this title that ECW One
Night Stand Revisit is a love letter to ecubly. It
was done with a lot of passion, not only from

(01:42:06):
the fans that showed up, which we even see the
superfan lad in the audience, but also from Paul Hayman.
This is kind of like his swan song. I guess
you can say his you know, like goodbye to a
wrestling brand that he got to go ahead and build

(01:42:27):
up before he eventually had so many financial losses that
he had to sell his library to Vince in the end.
So I know, we have made recommendations of matches that
you should definitely come back and revisit, But if you
have two hours and thirty minutes to kill in your day,

(01:42:48):
you could definitely go back and rewatch the soap pay
per view. I would not make fun of you or
anything like that of the sort, like, if you have
that time, go ahead and enjoy this love letter of ECW.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
Yeah, and it wouldn't hurt to watch the documentary that
WW produced, the Rise and Fall of ECW, as well.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
It is actually a very well produced documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
I was going to bring that up too, because not
only did they have that, but also Shane Douglas came
out with his own documentary of ECW to counterpoint that.
So maybe if you guys want to come back and
we'll rewatch both of them and maybe we can give
a little.

Speaker 3 (01:43:37):
I don't think i've ever seen the Shane Douglas one.
I'd have to go find that one.

Speaker 1 (01:43:40):
I'll text you or message you once. I had the
title and I didn't write it down. So but what about.

Speaker 6 (01:43:47):
You, Maria, Oh, I was gonna say, I definitely recommend
that you watch us.

Speaker 5 (01:43:53):
I will rewatch us again. That's how good it was.

Speaker 6 (01:43:55):
I really enjoyed a lot of matches, So rewatch it.
I love the wrestling. As you can tell, we're revisiting
the media where we rewatch ald wrestle Media's that's our
jam right now.

Speaker 5 (01:44:08):
So that's all I got.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
Yeah, and last thing before we hit off, you can
hit us up on all social media, whether it's Twitter,
Blue Sky, threads. We're revisiting Mania if you want to
shoot us an email where revisiting Mania at gmail dot com.
We also have a Facebook page revisiting Mania at whatever

(01:44:32):
the Facebook group is.

Speaker 6 (01:44:34):
Leave a review on Spotify, Apple, wherever you get your pods.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
And then we are still working through wrestling at thirty seven.
Hopefully we it's just they become two nights and it's
just a little bit harder to get through when you
have a newborn or a new board. But you know,
you have a smaller kid and then you have another kid,
so you know, hopefully we'll be able to get that

(01:45:00):
out maybe later on in June, but we'll be celebrating
our two year anniversary of putting out wrestling content for
newer fans and returning fans. Yeah, so stay tuned. Thank
you very much for joining us. Have a great night, deuces.

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