May 5, 2023 • 28 mins
Welcome back to Rogue Darkness! In this episode, I, along with a special guest, the guys from The Hush Hush Conspiracy Hour Podcast, discuss the eerie conspiracy called “Pizzagate”.
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This episode contains the discussion of severalheinous crimes involving conspiracy theories, coercion,
alleged kidnappings, acts of molestation involvingthe rape of children, suicide, torture,
human sacrifice, and ritualistic murder.Listener discretion is strongly advised. Dark
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Cast Network. Welcome to the darkside of podcasts. I'm one one more
murder, they would sacrifice battimos darkworld of ritualistic child abuse? Is there
a well organized plot and insidious designto program the minds of our children towards
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the occult and witchcraft? Does itmake you want to hate murder? You
want to murder? Let's explore thedarkness of mankind from one crime at a
Time. Welcome back to Rogue Darkness, the podcast that uncovers how the misinterpretations
and misinformation surrounding witchcraft, the occult, and other beliefs have led many to
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do unthinkable crimes. From ritualistic killingsand the demons that live in all of
us, to exploration of the macabreand delving deep into the unknown, Let's
explore the darkness of mankind, onecrime at a time. I'm your host
of the grim and Gruesome Raven.For this episode, we'll be going back
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to something I briefly touched on inone of my older episodes, the infamous
Pizzagate conspiracy theory, and to goover that conspiracy in even more detail.
We actually have a special guest joiningus today, the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy
Our Podcast. So without further ado, let's go rogue and get right in
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to today's episode. All right,So I'm here with the Hush Hush Society
Conspiracy Our Podcast. Welcome to theshow. Thanks for having us, Very
excite, no worries. You guyswant to give a little background on your
podcast, what you talk about andhow it kind of relates to what we'll
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be talking about today. Sure,we I'm Missy Mike and I'm joined by
Declassified Dave. We also have athird co host, it's like Frank Sanders.
We release episodes every every other week. Every week we cover conspiracy theories,
Crypted's, true crime mysteries, cults, a lot of cults stuff,
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and secret society stuff. So it'sit's fun and it's it's it's related to
stuff that we'll talk about today.We've we've done an episode on it,
so we're versed. Awesome, Well, thank you for being on the show.
I'm very excited to have you here. So let's delve right into what
the Pizzagate conspiracy theory actually is,how it came about, and why it
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is still even to this day,extremely controversial from all sides. To start
off, let's go back to thebeginning to March of twenty sixteen. This
was when the personal email account ofJohn Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign chair at
the time, who was hacked ina phishing attack. This hack would uncover
several confusing and rather disturbing emails filledwith what many believe are code words used
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amongst pedophilia rings and the elitist groupsbelieved to be involved. At the end
of the year, in November oftwenty sixteen, WikiLeaks unleashed those emails to
the public, publishing them for allto see. With the emails basically up
for everyone's interpretation, many people beganclaiming that the emails pointed to several high
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ranking Democratic Party officials, as wellas US based restaurants, being involved with
an alleged human trafficking and child sexring. One of the mentioned restaurants rumored
to allegedly be involved was the famousComet Ping Pong, a pizzeria located in
Washington in DC and a popular placefor celebrities and common civilians alike. Mass
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amounts of people began circulating the theoriessurrounding the emails on popular social platforms like
Twitter, Reddit, and four Chan, enabling the conspiracy to grow to a
horrifying level. People began claiming thatcertain terms and words within the emails found
on Podesta's account proved that he andother political affiliates, but also many other
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deemed high ranking officials, were involvedin horrific acts of pedophilia, rape,
torture, and even cannibalism and humansacrifice. So this theory in and of
itself can be terrifying to many.But what do you think of it?
Pizza Gay was a weird one,It definitely was. Yeah, it can
go in many different ways. There'sproved for it, but there's also a
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lot of contradicting information. Yeah,I think on the surface it seems like
a like a batshit crazy conspiracy theory, but when you dive a little deeper
into it and you start to seethe players that are involved with it,
the comings and goings the emails likeyou said, are very weird. You
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can even say, all right,maybe they have nothing to do with pedophilia,
and maybe they have nothing to dowith child trafficking. Maybe it has
to do with drugs, which inthis case would be worlds better. But
there's just a lot of things thatpoint to a lot of key people and
some really crazy things going on aroundthis. Yeah, definitely. Many claim
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that what the alt right conservatives whospread the conspiracy, enabling it to grow
and fueling the fires, under manyto take action in order to save the
presumed children that were being harmed bythe accused. This is where my old
episode covering the Pizza Gate shooting originatedoff of where one such individual, fueled
by the conspiracy and filled with immenseanger, traveled from North Carolina the way
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to Washington, d C. VisitingComet Ping Pong while heavily armed, and
began to shoot a rifle into theestablishment. And along with the theory of
Pizza Gate, there were many offshoottheories to accompany it, one such theory
being the infamous Frazzledrip. Frazzledrip wasa theory that involved Hillary Clinton claiming she
and some of her associates had participatedin the molestation, torture, and ultimate
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ritual murder of a child. SoI'm sure you've heard of Frazzledrip. Oh
yes, So what are your thoughtson Frazzledrip? Obviously that one that's very
dark as well, and I havemy own opinions on it, but I
kind of want to hear what youropinions are on it, just so we
can kind of discuss it a bit. That one's a wild one, because
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doesn't that one doesn't like isn't itallegedly that she wears the little girl's face
as a mask or something like thatduring that Yeah, I mean there's lots
of lots of conspiracy with satanic ritualsand cults and the adrina chrome sucking elite.
Yeah. Uh, ever evermore nowthan it was a couple of years
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ago as too. So uh thestuff with Hillary Clinton, I mean,
Hillary Clinton's a weird, a weirdlady. I mean, she's birthed an
egg out of her mouth like orwhatever it was. She's she looks like
she's reset a few times, soshe she I'm I'm I'm reaching, but
she she could be a lizard personthat does that weird stuff. Who knows
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whether or not it actually happened,because the picture that they showed online it
turns out to be an edited versionof an actual restaurant image, and they
took that image and made it lookgruesome, and then that's what they posted
on line and said this is theperson wearing the girl's face. Because I
went down that whole rabbit hole andI was I was mortified by it,
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and I wanted to know what,did this actually happen. I don't think
that specifically did just for certain thingsthat were uncovered. But it's not to
say stuff like that doesn't happen.You know, there's a lot of weird,
dark things behind the curtain and thewhole thing with Pizza Gate as well.
The guy who owns Pizza Gate hadto make all his accounts private.
He had to delete a bunch ofstuff because people were just coming after him,
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you know, saying, oh,you have children under your floorboards.
You're torturing him in the basement ofthe restaurant. And it's hard to really
say whether or not the stuff's realor if it's just kind of people taking
one thing, changing it and kindof like the telephone game, people taking
it spreading it across their social mediaand fueling it. But to think that
this kind of stuff did happen tochildren and still does, I know it
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does. But if Pizza Gate Israel, that's very terrifying. The high ranking
people that were involved said to beinvolved in the conspiracy, that's actually real,
that's terrifying. Yeah, if you'retalking about James L. Fontis,
who is the owner of comment PingPong, Now there's some interesting things about
James Zala Fontis. Now, yearsago he was named one of the I
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think it was the top fifty ortop ten, some ridiculous number most powerful
men in Washington, d C.He owns a pizza He owns a pizza
shop. Now, if you ifyou think about the people that are in
Washington, d C. That's prettymuch all of American government. How is
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some pizza owner the most powerful manin that entire city. He's a weird
one too, you know. Andyou look at a lot of his social
media accounts, and the reason thathe went private on a lot of those
things mostly came down to his Instagram. He had very weird, questionable images.
He would have images of little girlsthat were at the restaurant with their
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hands on the table and their handswere duct taped to the table, and
he, you know, he wouldsay I caught another one or something like
that, some weird, you know, subtitle that he would put to all
these very very odd, in questionablepictures that he was posting. And then
you look deeper into his background.He's actually the son of Roger Rothschild.
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Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, that's a whole another rabbit hole there.
Yeah. So there's so James aliphontis, for for all intent and purpose,
is most likely not the most innocentperson, at least from the evidence
that we came across and things thatwe were looking at. He's not very
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squeaky clean, let's say. Hmm. Yeah, no, I remember seeing
that picture too, and people,even the commenters, would comment really weird
comments that didn't seem appropriate for thepictures that they were putting the comments on.
And you see that a lot inHollywood. To two of the biggest
people that stand out are Chrissy Teaganand her husband John Legend. Yeah,
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which that makes me sad because Ilove his music, but her posts like
things she says, and I mean, they have children of their own,
and that's scary to think that ifthey are actually doing those things on their
end or are involved with people doingthose things, you know, what about
their children? You know, arethey protecting their children? I'm sure you've
seen and heard the things that shesaid on social media and even the pictures
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under her children that she posts.She has like weird food symbols, you
know, pizza or things that arenot related to what is in the picture.
It's like, why would you puta slice of pizza next to a
girl eating something completely different than whatthat is? Yeah, exactly, It's
like what the It's like what thekids are doing with like emojis when they're
buying drugs now through Snapchat. Oh, I didn't hear about that. The
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different the different faces mean different differentdifferent drugs, different codes. Pretty weird
this alphant is. Yet, likeMike said, he was not squeaky clean.
I think after all the things thatwe found that comt Ping Pong pizza
was definitely not the center of achild trafficking ring. You know, and
when what's his name Welch went inthere and fired a couple of shots and
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blew a lock off, I thinkthe basement and after you know, obviously
the FBI investigating it. There wasyou know, it was just a walk
in and a storage area. Therewasn't any so there wasn't any evidence that
that was actually going on. Andunfortunately, some of the businesses that were
on the same street, some otherpizza places across the country got like death
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threats, and that sucks. Butultimately, comic Ping Punk Pizza only got
its attention because of Alphantus and hisdirty hands. And he knew all these
people, and I believe he alsowas like the caterer to big events with
some of these people like Hillary Clintonand Podesta, and yeah, so he
was the supplier of pizza, butit might have just been pizza for him,
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but he yeah, he's no,he was no angel. Yeah that
could have actually also been Why itkind of was believable, is that one
he knows all these high ranking peoplethat are said to be involved in these
activities, and who's to say theyaren't. You know, they very well
could be. Oh I'm not sayingI'm not saying they're not right. Yeah,
oh exactly. It's there's a lotwrong in this world and in the
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industry of Hollywood. Yeah, thatcould have it could have just been his
status amongst them. You know,he's a face that the public would know,
and so he was their main targetand maybe he was just a ploy.
We don't know. He could bedoing it elsewhere, you know.
I also did an episode on BohemianGrove and they say that even though there's
things that happened there, they havesecret locations all over the globe that you
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know, are basically hidden in plainsight. So it could be the same
case for the pizza could be anywhere, and that's that's terrifying too. I'm
from Chicago, so obviously there's alot of pizza here and that's scary to
think that what if it's here,very well could be you know, we've
got tons of pizza places here.It could be hidden in one of them.
Maybe not Comet Pink Bong. There'sa lot of tunnel systems in major
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cities too. There is, yeah, a lot a lot that we don't
really know about either that they keepwill hidden. Oh I hate it,
But do you guys have anything elseyou want to kind of mention about Pizza
Gate, about your opinions on it, or any other information you want to
let listeners know relating to it.There is a there is an interesting little
tidbit, and it doesn't really haveto do with Pizza Gate. It's kind
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of along the same line. Soif you're familiar with Madeleine McCann, so
during the Madeleine McCann disappearance, theyhad a couple of a couple of suspects
that they had done witnessed drawings fromand if you look at these drawings,
they're almost identical to John Podessa andhis brother. And they so happened to
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be around the same time at somesort of villa that was three to five
miles away from where she was taken. Oh wow, that's horrifying. Yeah.
Yeah. And him him in aof himself, he's he's tied to
so many theories. You know,Chester Bennington from Lincoln Park, A lot
a lot of people say he couldvery likely be the biological father, and
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I mean, if you look attheir characteristics, it's it's possible because Chester
and I don't remember the singer's name, but it was one of Chester's best
friends was a yep, yep,that's him. Uh, his iconic voice.
I just couldn't remember the name.They both were trying to basically bring
light to this issue in music andfilm industry that there's child abuse and all
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this going on trafficking and they weretrying to put an end to it.
And it's just odd that they bothdied in very close times together in very
similar ways, and they all couldbe connected to Podesta. So it's a
terrifying. Yeah, it's a terrifyingthing to think about. Yeah, it's
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it's and one thing that was reallyshocking. I mean, it could have
just been weird. But as anadult, I've never written emails. I
didn't even write emails like this asa teenager. When you're reading through some
of the emails that were sent,and there was one where they're talking about
how somebody had left I think itwas a napkin hank map was it?
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What was it? Handkerchief? Handkerchiefwith like a map drawn on it,
and asked if it was anybody's Butthe map didn't have like different like symbols
on it too. Yeah, yeah, I had like hot dogs and pizzas
or something like that too, Andit was like a treasure map. And
he's like, somebody left this wasit one of the kids or something like
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that, And that was a reallyinteresting email. And then I think there
was an email, correct me ifI'm wrong, Mike. I don't know
if it was Obama, but theywere having or the Clintons were having a
party and they need an eighteen hundredpizzas and a certain amount of hot dogs.
It was like an astronomical amount offood. One hundred and fifty thousand
dollars worth of hot dogs an Obamafundraising event. Yep, cheese, And
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the email has also mentioned like reallyweird kind of food combinations, which also
brings into question. And if youlook at like a lot of the FBI
peto lingo that they've picked up ona lot of it matches up. They
would talk about cheese pizza with walnutsauce, and walnut sauce equals out to
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being like a young girl or ayoung boy or something like that. So
it's it's it's just very weird thecombination of foods that they would mention in
these emails and how it kind ofcorrelates with things that the FBI themselves had
backed up and said, yeah,these are these are site words for petos,
Right. There's also symbols that youcan find in just general like well
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known brands. I think good humormight be one of them. Um,
the ice cream that has like theheart within a heart, that's I believe
a symbol of pedophilia for women.And there's just so many out there.
It's really creepy that they incorporate allthese symbols. And even this is going
even further, but it's it's stillfitting. Is on the pope on his
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robe. They saw the kind ofI can't think of what the symbols called.
It's like a swirl almost, butit's more angular, and that's another
symbol for pedophilia. And it's like, well, that's that's not good at
all, you know, because stillthe Vatican has an immense amount of power
over in Rome, and you knowwhat is being brushed under the rug within
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that whole side of things. Soit's just scary how this kind of stuff
happens basically all over the globe andit's either being brushed under the rug.
People want to ignore it or theywant to deny it. And you know
what it comes down to, basically, whether or not the theory, the
conspiracy theory of Pizza Gate or FrazzleDrip, whether they're real or not,
things like this actually do happen,and they'll continue to happen, and that's
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that's so bad, and people needto realize that even if it's a theory,
they have to understand that things dohappen, and we do have to
try and stop it. We haveto bring light to this and try and
stop it. But people just wantto keep their heads in the sand for
the most part and try and ignoreit and say, oh, you know,
it's it's just a conspiracy theory,it's not real. But what if
it's not. What if it's not, then you're just letting these children be
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abused. And that's something I'm completelyagainst. I do not want I don't
want that around me. Yeah,it's weird. It's a seedy world when
it comes to that stuff, becauseit's definitely happening. I've definitely witnessed some
sketchy people at playgrounds and with sketchybehavior with some of them with kids that
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the kids aren't really acting normally andthey're like calling them but not by name.
It was some weird stuff. Andthen more recently, I think within
the last couple of weeks where Ilive, they the FBI was probably the
FBI or the police found there waslike twelve and the teen year old girls
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on a corner and it turned outto be a house filled with forty six
sex traffick teenagers. So and theygot them out. But I'm very close
to the Mexican border, so there'sa lot of that trafficking that goes across
international borders too. So it's it'sa real thing. It is. Yeah,
nobody wants to talk about the hardthings that are going on around us,
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right and it's a tough it's atough subject because I think a lot
of people would probably do something aboutit if they could, and a lot
of people just have their hands tiedor you know, their own their own
life going on. So there's there'sa lot of the trafficking stuff. I
mean, we we went down theroad. We've we've done in a couple
trafficking episodes where we went into likeOregon harvesting and that type of body part
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trafficking, and yeah, that blewme away, just just that alone.
On top of you know, we'vedone an episode on conspiracies in the porn
industry and there was a lot ofhuman trafficking there. Others there is.
Yeah, it's it's everywhere, andyou know, you're really not going to
be able to I don't think anybody'sgonna be able to change anything because this
has probably been happening for a longtime, like not not only fifty years,
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sixty years, Like a hunt,this is human. I mean,
people don't want to talk about thehistory and people have been trafficking humans forever.
So it's it's it's a it's atough one that you know. I
don't think the FBI can even handleby themselves, or it's just too big,
you know, it's too big ofan organization, because that's what it
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is. It's too big of ayou know, a lot, a lot
of people are involved in it tomake it keep functioning, and you know,
even some of them are probably involvedin it as as scary as that
is, but you know, youhope they would protect us. But at
the same time, it's everybody forthemselves basically. And I hate I hate
episodes like this, I'll be honest, because it just puts me in that
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like sad state. You know that, I too, am one who tries
to ignore stuff like this. IfI hear it, I don't want to
hear about it because it's sad andit's scary and it's angering makes you hate
humanity as a whole. If morepeople could at least understand that not everybody
has good intentions. Instead of justtelling your child, you know, stranger
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danger, you have to actually teachthem that not everybody is a good person.
You can't trust everybody. It's weirdthat how it may not have been
as prevalent when we were kids andwhen it is now because the appropriate just
just just look at the sex offenderwebsite in your neighborhood and you'll be like,
oh, Mike, I have andit's it's scary. And then the
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appropriation of of pedophilia in the mainstreamnews and with certain senators or other people,
just normal teachers as you see allthese like different wacky news stories with
that, that's the frightening aspect becauseit's like, oh no, this is
a preference, not not abuse,and that's scary. Yeah. And when
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we did it, when we didthe Pizzagate episode, you know, of
course we're talking about a possible conspiracy, but at the end of it,
we pretty much gave a bunch ofexamples of very powerful people in very top
ranking positions that have been caught redhanded with the pants down, no pun
intended. Um, but you knowpoliticians, senators, congressmen, uh,
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police, FBI. There was ahuge thing with the CIA back in the
day where uh happened a couple ofyears ago where they were told to stop
looking at child pornography. There wasliterally a memo that went out to the
CIA offices. Um So it's it'sa pretty rampant thing, and it's actually
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more rampant than you would imagine.Um So, there's very real examples of
it, and we gave a few, but there were pages. I mean,
I could I could have filled anentire episode just on the examples alone.
Yeah, that's terrifying, you know. We Yeah, that's exactly what
pizza Gate is too, you know. Knowing that all these high ranking people
are involved in these type of activitiesand whether or not Pizza Gate itself is
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real, people still want to denyit. You know, there's celebrities who
have very strong possible connections to childabduction, child rape, child possible child
murder, and people just want todeny it. They're like, oh,
this person's a great actor, thisperson's such a funny comedian, things like
that, and they want to denythat they could possibly be involved in these
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activities simply because they're a good actor, or simply because you know, they
like they like what that person doesfor a business. It's like you can't
judge a person's real character by youknow, by their profession. People are
always different behind closed doors. Andone of the biggest ones for me and
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I don't know, I really don't. I want, I want to believe
that it's not true is Hanks becausehe's been ever since I was a kid,
one of my favorite actors. Andhe's tied to Epstein, you know,
the list to Epstein Island and alongwith many, many, many,
many others, and that's that's sad. And some people said Keana Reeves,
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you know, there's a lot ofdifferent people who you would, you know,
just by first glance, think thatthey're really good people, you know,
you know, in the movies orin real life. But do we
really know or is that just somethingthey're portraying to the public and then they're
doing these horrific things behind closed doors. So it's a scary, definitely a
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scary world that we live in.And you know, if we can at
least talk about these things and makeit more palatable for people to hear it,
then you know, maybe that's astep in the right direction, even
if we can't fully stop these typeof things from happening. All right,
and that is where we will leaveyou for today. Everybody regarding the Pizzagate
theory, how it came about,and how although some claim it is debunked
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and other rage that it has beenproven to be true, we may never
truly know the reality of it,and that to me is horrifying in and
of itself. So thank you againfor joining me today. Guys. It
was an honor to have you onthe show and to discuss this extremely disturbing
theory that we still might not knowif it's real or not. Thanks for
having us on a lot of funtalking about pizza and hot dogs. Again,
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This episode contains the discussion of severalheinous crimes involving conspiracy theories, coercion,
alleged kidnappings, acts of molestation involvingthe rape of children, suicide, torture,
human sacrifice, and ritualistic murder.Listener discretion is strongly advised. Dark
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Cast Network. Welcome to the darkside of podcasts. I'm one one more
murder, they would sacrifice battimos darkworld of ritualistic child abuse? Is there
a well organized plot and insidious designto program the minds of our children towards
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Time. Welcome back to Rogue Darkness, the podcast that uncovers how the misinterpretations
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do unthinkable crimes. From ritualistic killingsand the demons that live in all of
us, to exploration of the macabreand delving deep into the unknown, Let's
explore the darkness of mankind, onecrime at a time. I'm your host
of the grim and Gruesome Raven.For this episode, we'll be going back
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to something I briefly touched on inone of my older episodes, the infamous
Pizzagate conspiracy theory, and to goover that conspiracy in even more detail.
We actually have a special guest joiningus today, the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy
Our Podcast. So without further ado, let's go rogue and get right in
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to today's episode. All right,So I'm here with the Hush Hush Society
Conspiracy Our Podcast. Welcome to theshow. Thanks for having us, Very
excite, no worries. You guyswant to give a little background on your
podcast, what you talk about andhow it kind of relates to what we'll
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be talking about today. Sure,we I'm Missy Mike and I'm joined by
Declassified Dave. We also have athird co host, it's like Frank Sanders.
We release episodes every every other week. Every week we cover conspiracy theories,
Crypted's, true crime mysteries, cults, a lot of cults stuff,
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and secret society stuff. So it'sit's fun and it's it's it's related to
stuff that we'll talk about today.We've we've done an episode on it,
so we're versed. Awesome, Well, thank you for being on the show.
I'm very excited to have you here. So let's delve right into what
the Pizzagate conspiracy theory actually is,how it came about, and why it
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is still even to this day,extremely controversial from all sides. To start
off, let's go back to thebeginning to March of twenty sixteen. This
was when the personal email account ofJohn Podesta, Hillary Clinton's campaign chair at
the time, who was hacked ina phishing attack. This hack would uncover
several confusing and rather disturbing emails filledwith what many believe are code words used
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amongst pedophilia rings and the elitist groupsbelieved to be involved. At the end
of the year, in November oftwenty sixteen, WikiLeaks unleashed those emails to
the public, publishing them for allto see. With the emails basically up
for everyone's interpretation, many people beganclaiming that the emails pointed to several high
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ranking Democratic Party officials, as wellas US based restaurants, being involved with
an alleged human trafficking and child sexring. One of the mentioned restaurants rumored
to allegedly be involved was the famousComet Ping Pong, a pizzeria located in
Washington in DC and a popular placefor celebrities and common civilians alike. Mass
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amounts of people began circulating the theoriessurrounding the emails on popular social platforms like
Twitter, Reddit, and four Chan, enabling the conspiracy to grow to a
horrifying level. People began claiming thatcertain terms and words within the emails found
on Podesta's account proved that he andother political affiliates, but also many other
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deemed high ranking officials, were involvedin horrific acts of pedophilia, rape,
torture, and even cannibalism and humansacrifice. So this theory in and of
itself can be terrifying to many.But what do you think of it?
Pizza Gay was a weird one,It definitely was. Yeah, it can
go in many different ways. There'sproved for it, but there's also a
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lot of contradicting information. Yeah,I think on the surface it seems like
a like a batshit crazy conspiracy theory, but when you dive a little deeper
into it and you start to seethe players that are involved with it,
the comings and goings the emails likeyou said, are very weird. You
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can even say, all right,maybe they have nothing to do with pedophilia,
and maybe they have nothing to dowith child trafficking. Maybe it has
to do with drugs, which inthis case would be worlds better. But
there's just a lot of things thatpoint to a lot of key people and
some really crazy things going on aroundthis. Yeah, definitely. Many claim
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that what the alt right conservatives whospread the conspiracy, enabling it to grow
and fueling the fires, under manyto take action in order to save the
presumed children that were being harmed bythe accused. This is where my old
episode covering the Pizza Gate shooting originatedoff of where one such individual, fueled
by the conspiracy and filled with immenseanger, traveled from North Carolina the way
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to Washington, d C. VisitingComet Ping Pong while heavily armed, and
began to shoot a rifle into theestablishment. And along with the theory of
Pizza Gate, there were many offshoottheories to accompany it, one such theory
being the infamous Frazzledrip. Frazzledrip wasa theory that involved Hillary Clinton claiming she
and some of her associates had participatedin the molestation, torture, and ultimate
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ritual murder of a child. SoI'm sure you've heard of Frazzledrip. Oh
yes, So what are your thoughtson Frazzledrip? Obviously that one that's very
dark as well, and I havemy own opinions on it, but I
kind of want to hear what youropinions are on it, just so we
can kind of discuss it a bit. That one's a wild one, because
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doesn't that one doesn't like isn't itallegedly that she wears the little girl's face
as a mask or something like thatduring that Yeah, I mean there's lots
of lots of conspiracy with satanic ritualsand cults and the adrina chrome sucking elite.
Yeah. Uh, ever evermore nowthan it was a couple of years
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ago as too. So uh thestuff with Hillary Clinton, I mean,
Hillary Clinton's a weird, a weirdlady. I mean, she's birthed an
egg out of her mouth like orwhatever it was. She's she looks like
she's reset a few times, soshe she I'm I'm I'm reaching, but
she she could be a lizard personthat does that weird stuff. Who knows
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whether or not it actually happened,because the picture that they showed online it
turns out to be an edited versionof an actual restaurant image, and they
took that image and made it lookgruesome, and then that's what they posted
on line and said this is theperson wearing the girl's face. Because I
went down that whole rabbit hole andI was I was mortified by it,
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and I wanted to know what,did this actually happen. I don't think
that specifically did just for certain thingsthat were uncovered. But it's not to
say stuff like that doesn't happen.You know, there's a lot of weird,
dark things behind the curtain and thewhole thing with Pizza Gate as well.
The guy who owns Pizza Gate hadto make all his accounts private.
He had to delete a bunch ofstuff because people were just coming after him,
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you know, saying, oh,you have children under your floorboards.
You're torturing him in the basement ofthe restaurant. And it's hard to really
say whether or not the stuff's realor if it's just kind of people taking
one thing, changing it and kindof like the telephone game, people taking
it spreading it across their social mediaand fueling it. But to think that
this kind of stuff did happen tochildren and still does, I know it
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does. But if Pizza Gate Israel, that's very terrifying. The high ranking
people that were involved said to beinvolved in the conspiracy, that's actually real,
that's terrifying. Yeah, if you'retalking about James L. Fontis,
who is the owner of comment PingPong, Now there's some interesting things about
James Zala Fontis. Now, yearsago he was named one of the I
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think it was the top fifty ortop ten, some ridiculous number most powerful
men in Washington, d C.He owns a pizza He owns a pizza
shop. Now, if you ifyou think about the people that are in
Washington, d C. That's prettymuch all of American government. How is
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some pizza owner the most powerful manin that entire city. He's a weird
one too, you know. Andyou look at a lot of his social
media accounts, and the reason thathe went private on a lot of those
things mostly came down to his Instagram. He had very weird, questionable images.
He would have images of little girlsthat were at the restaurant with their
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hands on the table and their handswere duct taped to the table, and
he, you know, he wouldsay I caught another one or something like
that, some weird, you know, subtitle that he would put to all
these very very odd, in questionablepictures that he was posting. And then
you look deeper into his background.He's actually the son of Roger Rothschild.
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Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, that's a whole another rabbit hole there.
Yeah. So there's so James aliphontis, for for all intent and purpose,
is most likely not the most innocentperson, at least from the evidence
that we came across and things thatwe were looking at. He's not very
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squeaky clean, let's say. Hmm. Yeah, no, I remember seeing
that picture too, and people,even the commenters, would comment really weird
comments that didn't seem appropriate for thepictures that they were putting the comments on.
And you see that a lot inHollywood. To two of the biggest
people that stand out are Chrissy Teaganand her husband John Legend. Yeah,
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which that makes me sad because Ilove his music, but her posts like
things she says, and I mean, they have children of their own,
and that's scary to think that ifthey are actually doing those things on their
end or are involved with people doingthose things, you know, what about
their children? You know, arethey protecting their children? I'm sure you've
seen and heard the things that shesaid on social media and even the pictures
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under her children that she posts.She has like weird food symbols, you
know, pizza or things that arenot related to what is in the picture.
It's like, why would you puta slice of pizza next to a
girl eating something completely different than whatthat is? Yeah, exactly, It's
like what the It's like what thekids are doing with like emojis when they're
buying drugs now through Snapchat. Oh, I didn't hear about that. The
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different the different faces mean different differentdifferent drugs, different codes. Pretty weird
this alphant is. Yet, likeMike said, he was not squeaky clean.
I think after all the things thatwe found that comt Ping Pong pizza
was definitely not the center of achild trafficking ring. You know, and
when what's his name Welch went inthere and fired a couple of shots and
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blew a lock off, I thinkthe basement and after you know, obviously
the FBI investigating it. There wasyou know, it was just a walk
in and a storage area. Therewasn't any so there wasn't any evidence that
that was actually going on. Andunfortunately, some of the businesses that were
on the same street, some otherpizza places across the country got like death
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threats, and that sucks. Butultimately, comic Ping Punk Pizza only got
its attention because of Alphantus and hisdirty hands. And he knew all these
people, and I believe he alsowas like the caterer to big events with
some of these people like Hillary Clintonand Podesta, and yeah, so he
was the supplier of pizza, butit might have just been pizza for him,
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but he yeah, he's no,he was no angel. Yeah that
could have actually also been Why itkind of was believable, is that one
he knows all these high ranking peoplethat are said to be involved in these
activities, and who's to say theyaren't. You know, they very well
could be. Oh I'm not sayingI'm not saying they're not right. Yeah,
oh exactly. It's there's a lotwrong in this world and in the
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industry of Hollywood. Yeah, thatcould have it could have just been his
status amongst them. You know,he's a face that the public would know,
and so he was their main targetand maybe he was just a ploy.
We don't know. He could bedoing it elsewhere, you know.
I also did an episode on BohemianGrove and they say that even though there's
things that happened there, they havesecret locations all over the globe that you
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know, are basically hidden in plainsight. So it could be the same
case for the pizza could be anywhere, and that's that's terrifying too. I'm
from Chicago, so obviously there's alot of pizza here and that's scary to
think that what if it's here,very well could be you know, we've
got tons of pizza places here.It could be hidden in one of them.
Maybe not Comet Pink Bong. There'sa lot of tunnel systems in major
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cities too. There is, yeah, a lot a lot that we don't
really know about either that they keepwill hidden. Oh I hate it,
But do you guys have anything elseyou want to kind of mention about Pizza
Gate, about your opinions on it, or any other information you want to
let listeners know relating to it.There is a there is an interesting little
tidbit, and it doesn't really haveto do with Pizza Gate. It's kind
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of along the same line. Soif you're familiar with Madeleine McCann, so
during the Madeleine McCann disappearance, theyhad a couple of a couple of suspects
that they had done witnessed drawings fromand if you look at these drawings,
they're almost identical to John Podessa andhis brother. And they so happened to
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be around the same time at somesort of villa that was three to five
miles away from where she was taken. Oh wow, that's horrifying. Yeah.
Yeah. And him him in aof himself, he's he's tied to
so many theories. You know,Chester Bennington from Lincoln Park, A lot
a lot of people say he couldvery likely be the biological father, and
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I mean, if you look attheir characteristics, it's it's possible because Chester
and I don't remember the singer's name, but it was one of Chester's best
friends was a yep, yep,that's him. Uh, his iconic voice.
I just couldn't remember the name.They both were trying to basically bring
light to this issue in music andfilm industry that there's child abuse and all
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this going on trafficking and they weretrying to put an end to it.
And it's just odd that they bothdied in very close times together in very
similar ways, and they all couldbe connected to Podesta. So it's a
terrifying. Yeah, it's a terrifyingthing to think about. Yeah, it's
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it's and one thing that was reallyshocking. I mean, it could have
just been weird. But as anadult, I've never written emails. I
didn't even write emails like this asa teenager. When you're reading through some
of the emails that were sent,and there was one where they're talking about
how somebody had left I think itwas a napkin hank map was it?
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What was it? Handkerchief? Handkerchiefwith like a map drawn on it,
and asked if it was anybody's Butthe map didn't have like different like symbols
on it too. Yeah, yeah, I had like hot dogs and pizzas
or something like that too, Andit was like a treasure map. And
he's like, somebody left this wasit one of the kids or something like
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that, And that was a reallyinteresting email. And then I think there
was an email, correct me ifI'm wrong, Mike. I don't know
if it was Obama, but theywere having or the Clintons were having a
party and they need an eighteen hundredpizzas and a certain amount of hot dogs.
It was like an astronomical amount offood. One hundred and fifty thousand
dollars worth of hot dogs an Obamafundraising event. Yep, cheese, And
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the email has also mentioned like reallyweird kind of food combinations, which also
brings into question. And if youlook at like a lot of the FBI
peto lingo that they've picked up ona lot of it matches up. They
would talk about cheese pizza with walnutsauce, and walnut sauce equals out to
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being like a young girl or ayoung boy or something like that. So
it's it's it's just very weird thecombination of foods that they would mention in
these emails and how it kind ofcorrelates with things that the FBI themselves had
backed up and said, yeah,these are these are site words for petos,
Right. There's also symbols that youcan find in just general like well
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known brands. I think good humormight be one of them. Um,
the ice cream that has like theheart within a heart, that's I believe
a symbol of pedophilia for women.And there's just so many out there.
It's really creepy that they incorporate allthese symbols. And even this is going
even further, but it's it's stillfitting. Is on the pope on his
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robe. They saw the kind ofI can't think of what the symbols called.
It's like a swirl almost, butit's more angular, and that's another
symbol for pedophilia. And it's like, well, that's that's not good at
all, you know, because stillthe Vatican has an immense amount of power
over in Rome, and you knowwhat is being brushed under the rug within
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that whole side of things. Soit's just scary how this kind of stuff
happens basically all over the globe andit's either being brushed under the rug.
People want to ignore it or theywant to deny it. And you know
what it comes down to, basically, whether or not the theory, the
conspiracy theory of Pizza Gate or FrazzleDrip, whether they're real or not,
things like this actually do happen,and they'll continue to happen, and that's
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that's so bad, and people needto realize that even if it's a theory,
they have to understand that things dohappen, and we do have to
try and stop it. We haveto bring light to this and try and
stop it. But people just wantto keep their heads in the sand for
the most part and try and ignoreit and say, oh, you know,
it's it's just a conspiracy theory,it's not real. But what if
it's not. What if it's not, then you're just letting these children be
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abused. And that's something I'm completelyagainst. I do not want I don't
want that around me. Yeah,it's weird. It's a seedy world when
it comes to that stuff, becauseit's definitely happening. I've definitely witnessed some
sketchy people at playgrounds and with sketchybehavior with some of them with kids that
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the kids aren't really acting normally andthey're like calling them but not by name.
It was some weird stuff. Andthen more recently, I think within
the last couple of weeks where Ilive, they the FBI was probably the
FBI or the police found there waslike twelve and the teen year old girls
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on a corner and it turned outto be a house filled with forty six
sex traffick teenagers. So and theygot them out. But I'm very close
to the Mexican border, so there'sa lot of that trafficking that goes across
international borders too. So it's it'sa real thing. It is. Yeah,
nobody wants to talk about the hardthings that are going on around us,
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right and it's a tough it's atough subject because I think a lot
of people would probably do something aboutit if they could, and a lot
of people just have their hands tiedor you know, their own their own
life going on. So there's there'sa lot of the trafficking stuff. I
mean, we we went down theroad. We've we've done in a couple
trafficking episodes where we went into likeOregon harvesting and that type of body part
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trafficking, and yeah, that blewme away, just just that alone.
On top of you know, we'vedone an episode on conspiracies in the porn
industry and there was a lot ofhuman trafficking there. Others there is.
Yeah, it's it's everywhere, andyou know, you're really not going to
be able to I don't think anybody'sgonna be able to change anything because this
has probably been happening for a longtime, like not not only fifty years,
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sixty years, Like a hunt,this is human. I mean,
people don't want to talk about thehistory and people have been trafficking humans forever.
So it's it's it's a it's atough one that you know. I
don't think the FBI can even handleby themselves, or it's just too big,
you know, it's too big ofan organization, because that's what it
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is. It's too big of ayou know, a lot, a lot
of people are involved in it tomake it keep functioning, and you know,
even some of them are probably involvedin it as as scary as that
is, but you know, youhope they would protect us. But at
the same time, it's everybody forthemselves basically. And I hate I hate
episodes like this, I'll be honest, because it just puts me in that
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like sad state. You know that, I too, am one who tries
to ignore stuff like this. IfI hear it, I don't want to
hear about it because it's sad andit's scary and it's angering makes you hate
humanity as a whole. If morepeople could at least understand that not everybody
has good intentions. Instead of justtelling your child, you know, stranger
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danger, you have to actually teachthem that not everybody is a good person.
You can't trust everybody. It's weirdthat how it may not have been
as prevalent when we were kids andwhen it is now because the appropriate just
just just look at the sex offenderwebsite in your neighborhood and you'll be like,
oh, Mike, I have andit's it's scary. And then the
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appropriation of of pedophilia in the mainstreamnews and with certain senators or other people,
just normal teachers as you see allthese like different wacky news stories with
that, that's the frightening aspect becauseit's like, oh no, this is
a preference, not not abuse,and that's scary. Yeah. And when
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we did it, when we didthe Pizzagate episode, you know, of
course we're talking about a possible conspiracy, but at the end of it,
we pretty much gave a bunch ofexamples of very powerful people in very top
ranking positions that have been caught redhanded with the pants down, no pun
intended. Um, but you knowpoliticians, senators, congressmen, uh,
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police, FBI. There was ahuge thing with the CIA back in the
day where uh happened a couple ofyears ago where they were told to stop
looking at child pornography. There wasliterally a memo that went out to the
CIA offices. Um So it's it'sa pretty rampant thing, and it's actually
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more rampant than you would imagine.Um So, there's very real examples of
it, and we gave a few, but there were pages. I mean,
I could I could have filled anentire episode just on the examples alone.
Yeah, that's terrifying, you know. We Yeah, that's exactly what
pizza Gate is too, you know. Knowing that all these high ranking people
are involved in these type of activitiesand whether or not Pizza Gate itself is
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real, people still want to denyit. You know, there's celebrities who
have very strong possible connections to childabduction, child rape, child possible child
murder, and people just want todeny it. They're like, oh,
this person's a great actor, thisperson's such a funny comedian, things like
that, and they want to denythat they could possibly be involved in these
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activities simply because they're a good actor, or simply because you know, they
like they like what that person doesfor a business. It's like you can't
judge a person's real character by youknow, by their profession. People are
always different behind closed doors. Andone of the biggest ones for me and
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I don't know, I really don't. I want, I want to believe
that it's not true is Hanks becausehe's been ever since I was a kid,
one of my favorite actors. Andhe's tied to Epstein, you know,
the list to Epstein Island and alongwith many, many, many,
many others, and that's that's sad. And some people said Keana Reeves,
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you know, there's a lot ofdifferent people who you would, you know,
just by first glance, think thatthey're really good people, you know,
you know, in the movies orin real life. But do we
really know or is that just somethingthey're portraying to the public and then they're
doing these horrific things behind closed doors. So it's a scary, definitely a
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scary world that we live in.And you know, if we can at
least talk about these things and makeit more palatable for people to hear it,
then you know, maybe that's astep in the right direction, even
if we can't fully stop these typeof things from happening. All right,
and that is where we will leaveyou for today. Everybody regarding the Pizzagate
theory, how it came about,and how although some claim it is debunked
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and other rage that it has beenproven to be true, we may never
truly know the reality of it,and that to me is horrifying in and
of itself. So thank you againfor joining me today. Guys. It
was an honor to have you onthe show and to discuss this extremely disturbing
theory that we still might not knowif it's real or not. Thanks for
having us on a lot of funtalking about pizza and hot dogs. Again,
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