December 7, 2013 • 46 mins
Welcome back to The Liquid Gamer Podcast, revamped and ready to level up your nostalgia! A decade after its original run, we're diving into classic games with fresh insights, tips, and discussions on what makes them enduring favorites. From cozy worlds to dystopian adventures, join us for laughs, retro vibes, and gaming community chatter that bridges past and present. Whether you're a longtime listener or new to the game, tune in and let's play!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Uh, so what we do in the show we talk
about famous or iconic characters from video games and then
go into their history and talk about, you know, everything
from every game they've been in and all the.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Cartoons, everything else.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So this first ten episodes had been all inspired by Dante. Yes,
so we have characters that he would like to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
About, and then some good choices.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah great, great, very una Nintendo heavy.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But you know people love Linton, right, they share as
they share, and.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Then after that it'll be ten episodes of Moah My Choices,
and then we're going to have some special guests come
in and do their choices.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So today is pac Man.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yes, I chose pac Man for my final episode, if
you Will, just because I thought it was important to
at least mention.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Him right in the beginning of our if you there's
season one, if you Will.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So we're gonna go through a long list of games,
quite a few, quite a few, but I think everybody
can speak to pac Man in some fashion, so I
think there'd be something for everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So pretty much we're going everywhere from nineteen eighty to
two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yes, just because I didn't really play anything except for
that reboot.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And I expect to perform above average on the trivia
question today. Oh, I expect to because I can't imagine
if you're going to throw anything too crazy in my
head today.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's true. It is pac Man you're kind of talking about.
It's pretty limited.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, okay, well we'll jump into the trivia. Let's go,
mister confident I can get to my papers.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Number one, how many power pellets and the average board?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That is quick? Number two? How many dots for board
in the original pac Man?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And it's actually been a current like I need a pen?
Number three? What is pac Man's original name?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Puckman?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Puck Man which sounded like a cuss word, change black Man?
Number four? What is the nickname of the red ghost?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Blinky? Damn?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So are you three for four? Which is actually where
I'll usually finish at with all?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's true. Number five? What ghost do we know? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Is missing in the original game? You have in the
original game blinky inky pinky?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But not well is it?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
There's Sue or Clyde except Clyde?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
That's fine? Yea what color?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Four for five? Huh? Number six?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
In which pac Man game can you jump first, the
first pack Man game that you can jump.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Pack Mania.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's correct, that's correct. Man, you aren't good at this.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Finally, number seven, what is usually the first bonus item
to appear in a level?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Okay, it would be the cherry, that is correct?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, huh.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Number eight game was released here in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
When was it released in Japan?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Eighty two?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Also nineteen eighty?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Whoa the question?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Thank goodness, it worked really hard?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Six right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Number nine Namco released the game in Japan. Who released
it in the US?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Mm hmmm for some reason, I want to say tech ma.
That's not right there?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Midway?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yes, yes, yes, midway.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Last question, so what are we at?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Six for nine?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Six for nine? So you're either going to be seven
for ten or six for ten? What is pac Man's
wife's name? No, no, no, no, Missus blank pac Man.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What's her name?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Missus Puck pac Man?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Her name is Pepper pet Wow.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Okay, six for ten was a tough one.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Six for ten.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I don't think I've ever seen that anywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And actually was first introduced in the cartoon.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I've watched the cartoon.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, med too, All right, I'm fine with my d
that's n F.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Okay, I don't know what school you went to. My
grade school I went to school. Wow, that was n F.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Would you pass on Kirby?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Everything else been fails?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yes, but Kirby was technically a B. You say it's
a C. But anyway, I feel good about ending no
good job season.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That was good F on your last one. Yeah, so
if you did not know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Pac Man, of Course is an arcade game developed by Namco.
First released in Japan in May twenty second, nineteen eighty,
was licensed for distribution in the US by Midway and
released in October the same year. The first hit arcades
became a huge hit, selling over one hundred thousand UNI
(05:54):
incidents first year.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So what'd you think first? Pac Man Man?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So your story is probably gonna be different from mine.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I actually hated pac Man when I first played it
because Miss pac Man was my first pac Man game,
and so the variations and upgrade to Miss pac Man
then going backwards, my first reaction was wise the.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Level of the same every single time, because it doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The difficulty does. So I didn't like it, But this
was not my first no either, Okay, but I can
appreciate it for what it is. I mean, I'm not
gonna at all say that it's a bad game, you know,
but there is kind of a challenge to're doing the
same level over and over at different speeds, with the
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dost reacting different and having a shorter window where you
can eat them.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
So I mean, if I had to rate it, I'd
give it a seven out of ten.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Okay, Well, the reason that it was so popular, so
in nineteen eighty, the only thing in arcades the signs
pinball machines were asteroids, space invaders, and pretty much sports games.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
But they were like they were pretty much palm. So
this was totally new, right, so like you eat stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It was just like like in the way Star Wars
was in the film industry, which is like mind blown,
there's this.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Little guy who eats ghosts. I want to play.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So that was one of the reasons that, you know,
it was just huge. It also wasn't targeted towards like dudes,
so like when you go to the arcade, I mean
a lot of pinball machines have Kirby ladies or different
things that are more mad mantra stuff, cars things like that,
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and then obviously shooting things in space.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Very dudes, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Space.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So this was the first game that was like, hey, girls, boys, mom's, dads, grandma.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And grandpa's, everybody can play it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I got you, and that's why it was huge following
year Miss pac Man was born.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
My understanding to that was, I guess that's your big change.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That and that, and the level changes every two levels
the design so it gets really crazy as it goes on.
So that was my laundrymats laundy. That was my game
that I played for hours until I ran out of quarters.
You never got past the third.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Were still not on the one that I played.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, I wasn't born yet, true, true, true, But you.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Ad horrible.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Games.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Uh, so faster gameplay, Miss pac Man, I think arguably
could be considered probably the best pac Man game, even
though it doesn't follow our as our dude write, mister,
mister pac Man, his name is so this is Pepper, right,
Miss pac Man is Pepper, so our name. Her last
name was pac Man before.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
They got married, right, And I think they technically get
married in Miss pac Man.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, no, no, they get married in mister and missus
pac Man.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
That's the game.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
We'll get to that, uh, audience, you're going to find
out there's a lot of pac Man we don't know about,
and possibly you as well.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
In a way, there's actually pac Man games that Namco
didn't know about because Midway illegally used their license throughout
the eighties.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Really oh yeah, wow, oh yeah it was bad like
it was.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It was a I don't even see how that trustpires, but.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Well it's sure it happened in nineteen eighty too. Pac
Man Plus so it's created without Namco's permission. But see
Miss pac Man was.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Also created without Namco's permission.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Like Midwave just was like, hey, let's bank on this.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So they were showing out all these games.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Namco had no idea really besides of getting back to
them like oh okay, well they do have the license,
but they told us it should be getting something.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So Miss pac Man. I well, it could just be me,
but I feel like it was more successful than pac Man.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, because because the Lemma design changed. Even though sometimes
it's just kind of like a mirrored version, and.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You have Miss pac Man everywhere in some places that
don't even need to be, it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Was easier to get you.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, pac Man Plus pretty much is pac Man. It's
kind of it's I guess I would compare more to
Miss pac Man. Okay, but there's no fruit. It's all cakes.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay, but that's literally, that's literally what.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Pac Man plus is. It is pac Man in Miss
pac Man's game with Kick.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Sorry boy, I talk about really reaching for a game.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, number nineteen eighty two again Super pac Man.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Do you remember that Super pac Man was when he
got really big? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But you also don't need pellets?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Remember everything was fruit, yes, ye, yes, so weird, but
he got bigger than he ever has. I remember the
opening scene one anything because he comes back like he right,
But I remember the artwork more than anything because you
had him with cape, a red cape in his arms
and his legs and he was kind of in Superman
(11:44):
post ya. So that was Super pac Man nineteen eighty two,
nineteen eighty two as well Mister and Missus pac Man
another midway game.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I'm disappointed in him.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Manco did not know about Mister and Missus pac Man.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I actually featured on the board. It was their wedding.
The opening of the game was their wedding. Grandma was
just a little too little.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, then they kissed.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But it was the first introduction of like, I don't know,
I kind of like a world, you know, like where
these two live mister and missus pac Man. But still
it's not it wasn't any different than pac Man. Plus
I mean, it was just they just kind of hashed everything.
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Nineteen eighty two we had Baby pac.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Man as that Pa.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Baby Pack.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Baby Baby pac.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Man is the first pac Man game I ever played. Okay,
note Baby pac Man is not an arcade game.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Baby pac Man is a pinball game featuring pac Man characters,
and there are points in the game where you use
the board to play traditional pac Man style games.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's like a bonus. This I played at the Move's
Lodge where my uncle was a member. Okay, like in
the Flinstones.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
So it was the first and probably well on that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It was a video pinball combo.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It was made by Ballei, and according to the stats,
they only made seven thousand, so I guess it was
rare that I got to play this.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, I don't think people have heard of that, really,
I'm sure not because.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
The brand news with Junior Pac.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Two. Okay, it's a lot of games.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The last thing they released in eighty two was pac
Man Fever, but that wasn't a game, that was the
TV show.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Okay, I did watch.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It, but it was just kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I was entertained. But again I watched it years later
after them, and that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Was the introduction of names like Pepper pac Man. Baby
pac Man was in the show.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I do remember Baby pac Man.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So it aired from September twenty fifth, nineteen eighty two
to September first, nineteen ninety four, so forty three episodes,
two seasons.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Kind of weird concept.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I guess it's not bad though, for the two seasons.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna go rewatch them. No, No,
when did you watch them?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Quite your network?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Oh, for all I know, I could have been watching
a different innervation of pac Man, maybe because I don't
feel like I was watching eighties pac Man.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
So it's very possible I was watching something completely different.
So now I'm intrigued. I'm I'm gonna have to use
a couple of torps.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
That is illegal.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Nineteen eighty le Gramer does not condone the use of
illegal actions.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Nineteen eighty three, we have the release of Junior pac Man.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
This is the second pac Man game, that I played, Yes,
then I played Miss pac Man.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I kind of went back. Yeah, but Junior pac Man
for some reason, I just like the younger.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Themed on Favorite pac Man.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Junior pac Man is my favorite as well favorite now. Granted,
big difference between them all.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He is a beanie on us.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
The first thing that, like, I was just blown away with,
like how massive his levels were, like you had to
scroll left and light.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It was just so huge. And the AI was definitely
much better, right, definitely better. But I too like that
he's just like with the beanie on his hair, He's
like the little pac Man.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, so you would probably put Junior pac Man miss
Miss Yeah. Definitely, both created.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Without permission, But I do remember Junior pac Man very well.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Eighty three was Junior pac Man eighty three again Professor
pac Man.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Okay, I never heard of that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It was pretty much Tetrius or Doctor Mario Professor Pa.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Well, Texas is better than Doctor Mario, So which one
is it?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I disagree, m It's more Doctor Mario thanfessors.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Okay, that's not very good.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Nineteen eighty four we saw the first sign scrolling action
game in the series released, which was pack Land.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Pack Land yes, did you play Packland?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I did not play Packland? Oh no, what you know what,
I don't believe I have the opportunity to.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I played. I don't know. Actually I think it was
I think it was a yes, probably Yeah, that one
I did not get to play. I remember, I remember it.
I remember wanting to, but you know, at that age,
I don't really have much say in what I want
to play.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So so that was nineteen eighty four's pack Land. I
will see what system was on because now I'm curious
because I've laid it. But I remember playing it over
my neighbor's house, my neighborhood a Super Nintendo.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But in eighty four, I don't think he did.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I do feel like it's been included in one of
their compilations at some point.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well, I mean yeah, I mean a lot of the
games that they've done are just re redesigns, right whatever.
Of course, my I Pads.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Accum Well was a great game nineteen eighty eight. So
nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty eight there was nothing really.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Eighty eight saw the last pac Man game to run
an arcade cabinet until ninety six.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Ironic, the year out born.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
In ninety six, Year one, ninety eighty. Sorry, uh so
pack Mania it was three D, yes, I remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I like, Paia, how did it look? Well? I mean
it was fully three well right three as far as
what it was capable of.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
But it's a little bit challenging because because they're trying
to bring it or show to half the three D world,
you see a smaller scope of the maze, so a
lot of times you're turning the corners, like damn, the
girls is right there. I remember, yes, but it's a
fresh take on it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I remember his eyes being too small.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yes, and like we said, like I got correct in
the trivia question, you can jump, you can't.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
You can jump right over the ghost.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Although that sounds like it's a huge advantage, it's not,
because he bounces on the way down and you have
a period where you can't just like turn right back around.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So do you remember that game?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah? Actually you're playing out on my we right now.
Oh yeah, included in the Game Boy Advanced Virtual concertle Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, nineteen ninety three, we saw pack Attack.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yes, yes, remind me now now I have to change
that list again.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So Junior pac Man, then Pack Attack really Pack Attack
is amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Why because it's unique.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
The same no no no, no no no no no,
I didn't play for I didn't have a super so.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Well so pack Attack it is Tetris, but.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You also have the ghosts that fall as blocks and
then eventually you'll get a pac Man that needs to
eat them, So you're doing two things at once. So so,
in other words, while I'm trying to stack it, I
also want to position it so that when I finally
get a packed Man, he eats a serious of him
and he's not being blocked off or not, or that
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the ghost aren't trapped.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
It's very unique. Sounds like it's It's good. It was
well received.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Where can I play that now?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Also on the virtual.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Console it's actually bundle pac Mania, pac Man and Pack
Attack seven.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Bucks seven dollars, folks, yep, get on your virtual console.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Game. Pac played nineteen Oh really yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Nineteen ninety four, we had pac Man two.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
For the Stayer, right, Yes, I gotta change my molist again.
Why because I.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Love that game and it was a horribly received game
I found out being Metacritic, but I don't care. It's
also another game that's unique. You do not control pac
man at all. Okay, so he's I actually, you know,
I believe it's based on the animated cartoon. There must
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have been a cartoon that released around that time, because.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Might be the one that you've watched.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yes, So what you do is that you know he's
in the world, he walks around, and you fully interact
with the world.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So you have a slingshot and so like when you
start the game, like you're at his house, Like I
can shoot a slingshot his window and he reacts to it.
And then I can hit an apple and he like
stops me. He just interacts with everything that you do.
And then you can tell him, hey, look go to
the right, go to the left, or look up and down.
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I know I'm describing this game very where you're probably thinking.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
This is not a game at all. This sounds stupid.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I just don't get the what's the game player?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
That that was the gameplay. It's it's you triggering things
in the world and having him react to it. But
there is a story, There is a plot to it.
There is an ending. Okay. So I mean every level
you were supposed.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
To go find something that would take you to the
next stage that ultimately took you to the end.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Where you had to fight uh this boss. I can't
even remember her name.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But it was like the Mega ghosty. You're so uninterested
right now, aren't you just when.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Because we've done enough of these Icon episodes to see
where characters go off.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
It's funny, you say, and then it's exactly funny you
say that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Because well, I don't know if it's well, it's got
Damncom's name written on it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So I don't think Manyway had anything to do with this, but.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
They absolutely did not want to do this game, but
they felt like they needed to do something different for
pac Man, which now today, as we've learned seeing all
these integrations of the same pac Man game, I feel
like they were justified in that decision.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
But you know, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I liked it, okay, so hey.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Top five.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
The year after that, nineteen ninety five, we saw pack
in Time. I have nothing to do with that one
me either, Super Nintendo. Yeah, pretty much. It was actually
a rebranded game. They just kind of put pac Man
as is the character. So the game was supposed to
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be Fury of the Furies or the Fury of the Furries,
but they just made pac Man the dude because.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
The Furries weren't cutting it. I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, okay, and that happens. I mean even in film.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
The original or like the second Diehard film was supposed
to be a totally different movie, but they just.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Threw Jama Clan in it. So pac Man is the
Ja McClain of video games.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I agree, because he's just throwing himself into things that
don't really work in his world.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So did not play it. But again, I did not
have a Super Nintendo.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Did you hear that? Folks? What you did not have
a Super Nintendo?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
No, our family was very budget conscious. I'm just trying
to make you feel guilty, though.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
What is the next game? Pac Man VR?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Let's we're going to We're going to learn what pac
Man VR is.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You don't know what it is?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
No, I do not, neither do I. And this was
in nineteen ninety six, ninety six, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was a game featured a three D environment, so
similar perspective to Pack two, was it?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, similar to that.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It looks like it was developed by a company called Virtuality,
but it actually was an arcade cabinet game. So this
was the game that brought them back into the arcade
even though the arcade was done.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, so that actually might be why we don't know
what the.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Game is, okay, because so it's not a console game
at all, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So basically it is a game designed by a company
that nobody really knew in the pac Man universe, but
it didn't fit what we know is pac Man.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Okay, So that's why we don't know what it is.
It will probably achieve it that way.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm sure you want.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You can find a YouTube video, all right, nineteen ninety nine,
So three years after their launched back into the arcades,
back again, we got pac Man World.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
So it's funny you said you made a comment earlier
about how they kind of like veer off. I felt
like I didn't play all of pac Man World, but
I do remember playing it. It felt very crash bandankootash.
It even looks crash band kootish right.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Three I mean fully three D world, this time on
the PlayStation. One kicks you Okay, Okay, he's got the
little pellets that's on the board, but he's going front
to back like crash ban.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Jumping, jumping, yes, doing all the white things so, I
mean I thought it was okay because I mean we
liked the Crash Bandicoot series. I mean, at that time,
it wasn't a lot of games like that, So I mean,
you can we could argue that pac Man is a
Crash ripoff, pac Man World is a Crash ripoff, but.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
It was a fresh take for pac Man, and I
don't think it was a bad game.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So then we had in the year two thousand, Pack
in Party.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
This is another veer off project, is it?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It is so similar to every party game, They're all
kind of the same. Anyway, that's Pack and Party was
his entry into the party game.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay, featuring the whole cast I'm guessing.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Okay, Silliness two thousand also had Miss pac Man May's Madness.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Did you play that?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I did play that a little bit on the N sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Four, okay, if I remember. It was kind of similar
to the pac Man World though it was actually.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, actually it's not much different from that. It's again
just using her. She doesn't have a bell on her head,
she is she has the beauty mark. So oh.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
But you know what, now, did you say that there
is a game that I have to mention? Uh, it's
Miss pac Man. Oh wow, her name drops me. I'm sorry, folks,
but I know I played on Super Nintendo.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
It was the I believe it's the first time that you.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Had co op in pac Man because you had the
ability to have Miss and mister pack Her I'll say,
Mister pac Man on the same board, but it was
in Miss pac Man's world, but they were in it together,
so player one a player too, could actually be working. Yeah,
Saga Genesis and Superintendo, you actually could be working together
(28:39):
to complete the maize.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But it was much harder, right, so when you ran
into each other to just stop.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
When you ran into each other, you quickly would bounce
the opposite way and couldn't stop until you hit a wall.
So if there was ghost saying, you know, if the
ghosts chasing it and we need each other, it's a problem,
so you need to stay out of each other's way,
which is.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Kind of hectic.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And they had variations where like you could play like
crazy style Miss pac Man or super hard or super easy.
With the board was just like Junior pac Man size.
It's really good, very good, especially glass to play with
co op. So I'm kind of surprised, like in some
form of fashion. We haven't seen another game like that,
(29:25):
but I remember playing hours of that from my brother,
So I can't tell you what year that were released.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Though I don't know those two thousand. We also played
pac Man Adventures in Time.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Cha's Time is a PC game, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
It was actually, you know, it was pretty much just
just PC.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah. I did not get a chance to get into that.
I remember looking at it and want to get it, but.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I mean it had different time periods, so Egypt's fantas
and it's it's a lot like Pacman World.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Okay, just PC bass.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
So with the power of the PC, they were able
to make it bigger.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Right Oh yeah at that time. Yeah, yeah, that was
two thousand thousand.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Okay, it's weird because I've I gave up after that,
you know what I mean, I can't even tell you
I think.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, so, so here's the irony in this episode, Like
there's no doubt that pac Man is an icon, like
he's known around the world from the arcades, and even
though he's more of an eighties icon, like he's still
like people still know who he is today.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Oh yeah, but let's not make it bigger than what
it is.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
His gaming lineup library is not anything to really be enthusiastic,
very impressed of. He's just you know, I can't explain.
And you know, it's funny because until the day I
didn't know that most of his games.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Were illegal.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Permission from the creator.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
That's quite interesting. So but nonetheless, he's a recognizable figure.
I mean, I don't I mean, pac Man won't be
done anytime soon, which is funny. I think it.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
No, I'm sorry, I think it's funny because you know,
like in our previous episode, like we talked about Crash,
like like, where is his future going?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Well, pac Man is not really.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
True, you know, Yeah, I mean a lot like look
if you look at the people we've covered, Yeah, so Mega.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Man, Well, let's be honest, yeh Crash the cues right, uh.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And then they have ones that stay around and have
games and keep coming out year of the year, like.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Son and Mario.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But pac Man is he's bigger than anyone we've talked about. Yeah,
to be honest, like he is, he's gaming, and he's
the he's one of the you know, it's the biggest
icon as far as that little mouth. Yeah, and he
(32:18):
I mean, there's no threat of his legacy. No, even
if he only shows up in things like Smash Brothers.
So two thousand and two, right, two thousand and two, y,
pac Man Fever? Did you play pac Man Fever?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I did? I okay, game cute? Oh yes, I'm sorry
while I'm completely blanking out.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, So basically, even though it sounds cool, pac Man Fever,
it is actually Mario Park.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I didn't know where you were going with that because
your facial expression name you think that you were going
to be excited for it.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I did than that. But yeah, so board game style.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, and that's some haichi. I think that's how you
pronounced it from Teking that is featured as a cast.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Member in that game.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So weird.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's I mean, you know what, It's almost like how
we were talking about with the Crash, how like they're
just reaching for people to put in to throw into
our party game because they really don't.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Have the group.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, because I mean that is one thing we covered
heavily on the Crash. It's just like his racing games, right,
like who are you racing Crash?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Which even Hackman had he did game it's he.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did, which is actually none on my list for a reason. Yes,
Hacman World Rally was two thousand and six. And again,
I mean here we'll go over the characters. Okay, for
the racing game, you have unlockable characters that go over first,
Figar and Kuka from Dig Dug okay, the Prince from Katamari, Domicy,
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the Massy I don't even know, pac Man, Miss pac Man, Junior,
pac Man, Blankie, Pinky Inky Clyde, talk Man, Spooky Irwin,
and pac Devil.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Okay, yeah, what is pack Devil? I don't know? Did
he actually even listed as an unknown source?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, he's never been in a game. The pack Devil is,
I guess the bowser to.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I'm so upset as we're looking at this character right now.
This is so bad.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It is literally a red pac Man.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
It looks well, he's red, blue gloves, blue shoes, jack
o' lantern.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Mouth with a devilish goatee. That is there. That was
their boo, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, So like they're like, all right, we need a
big antagonist for pac Man.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Pack Devil.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Could have just really kept it at the ghost and
been fine.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Packed Devil it kind of region yeah, kind of.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
So after.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Fever we had two thousand and two pac Man World.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yes, Pacman World.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Do you remember pac Man World?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I remember it?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Another game that was not really impressed with actually to
beyond it, To be fair, I played the DS version
of it. I did not play the console. I have
the console versions and somebody gave it to me. But
I'm kind of like so checked out of three D. Yes,
I'm so checked out of it.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I just.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
But it doesn't you know, thinking back to prac Man
Ward one, I can't imagine that it's a bad game.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, I mean it's actially Metacritic, it's a seventy three.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah, I'm sure it's a good game.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
But unfortunately, like I keep going back to Crash because
I feel like they're on similar planes.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Crash didn't started an industry.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Though, No, no, no, no, well, I mean as far
as like where they kind of went going forward. Like
I even consider like buying some of these pac Man
games after, like we said, Crash three, Like, I.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Really wasn't interested in really playing any Crash Bandicy game.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Ever, I can honestly say, like if a new one
came out today and it was, you know, really well received,
I wouldn't hesitate to party get it?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
What a pac Man game like pac Man like traditional?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
No, he like like a three D world like really?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, I wouldn't hesitate because I've played some before and
they've been pretty good and they don't look bad, whereas.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
That one.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
That one actually does look bad, though it's what you want.
A game that quickly went to a budget title is
never good.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I agree. So is it called in the Ghostly Adventure? Yeah,
that's the newest.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
PA, that's the newest four. Yeah, looks it does look bad.
It looks well. The game looks targeted to a younger audience.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, it looks like there is there a new cartoon
because they're acting.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I think there are there is, actually, so if anything,
Pack fans more like Sonic Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Wait, because he's still around, he's doing crappy cartoons.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Whoa, whoa. That's just not right at all.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
He's done a racing game.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
His racing games are good. Sony Transfer Racing is actually.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Pack Devil is not good.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, it's not.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Are you saying it is?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I'm saying it's just as good as Sonic All Star
Racing Transforms.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
It's really not so.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Besides the Ghostly Adventures we have him up hearing in
Super Smash Brothers.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, which is odd.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh well before that, why don't you I have to
mention that he was thrown in the street fight across
teching true, which was weird. I was excited until I
found out they were going to stick him in a
robot and have the robot do all the fighting.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
So this isn't specials.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Won't be pac Man's first brawl if you will. Yeah,
I'm pretty corny with that.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
That was pretty corny, but yeah, so big surprise it
was announced that E three that he will be in.
That was their three man Yeah. Well actually, I mean
they capped it off with pac Man, but.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Since then we've had other announcements ray Man, so he
does not get his own episode.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
No, well.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
On the black List.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
But no. Yeah, so I'm excited for pac Man and in.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
His moves are weird.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
They are.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I feel like they're like not well thought out, Like, hey,
nam comes helping us develop the game.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Right, explain that, Like why is pac Man and Supersmash Brothers.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Really, I think it's definitely because of Namco, Like people
knew that from the Star Wars and Sacka said that, yeah,
they got to be help with this. I'm okay with
that though, because I feel like they do an excellent
job with the Techni series.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
So I'm sure. Well, I've played bro I've played the News.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Match Brothers, and it feels very, very, very polished, even
at the stage of that right now, So I mean,
I'm excited to have pac Man. It's the first time
we'll have pac Man, Mario Sonic, and Mega Man all
in one game.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
So it's starting to feel like PlayStation All Star Battle Royo,
except just not that bad. Why I killed a maname
all right, So the end of the show, we're gonna
be talking about the perfect play, the perfect play of
pac Man.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
So a perfect pac.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Man game occurs when the player achieves the maximum possible
score on the first two hundred and fifty five levels
by eating every possible dot, power, pellet, fruit, and enemy
yes without losing a single life, and then scoring as
many points as possible in the last level. The last
(40:54):
level is pretty much get as many as you can
because you're gonna die. Many people have attempted to break
this record.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
It is in Guinness as well.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I know that one can make counter of Sex your credit.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Now sit down, now it actually took nineteen years.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
It took nineteen years after the game came out for
anyone to ever finish pac Man.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Now that is a feat.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yes, I actually watched that documentary on that team. It
was interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
The amazing feat was accomplished by a thirty three year
old Billy Mitchell, who finished pac Man with a perfect
play on July third, nineteen ninety nine. Yes, Mitchell completed
at all levels and he reached the two fifty six
half the screen became jumbled because it is an impossible
level to complete.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
It took him six.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Hours to win the game and the highest score three
how is it? Three million, three million, three nine thirty three,
three hundred and sixty points. In September two thousand and nine,
so ten years after that, David Race of Beaver Creek,
Ohio became the sixth person to achieve a perfect.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Score Hometown Hero.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
His time three hours, forty one minutes and twenty two seconds,
so the new record for the fastest time to obtain
a perfect score. And there was manh I'll do another factory, Okay,
So so far we have six people that I'd beat
the game. The gentleman from Beaver Creek is the one
(42:34):
who did the fastest. I just wanted to go over
this red and December nineteen eighty two, an eight year
old boy, Jeffrey Rye received a letter from US President
Ronald Reagan congratulating him on a world ride record of
six million, one and forty points, a score only possible
(42:56):
if he had passed the unbeatable split screen level. In
September nineteen eighty three, Walter Day, chief scorekeeper at twin Galaxies,
took the US National Video Game Team on a tour
of the East Coast to visit video game players who claimed.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
They could get through the split screen level. No video
game player could demonstrate this ability.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
In nineteen ninety nine, Billy Mitchell offered one hundred thousand
dollars to anyone who could pass through the split screen
level before January first, two thousand.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Nobody has, but apparently the little boy did.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Okay, I don't love that. Yeah, I don't reader, but
Ron Reagan was nice enough to send him a letter.
So okay from Jellybuddies. No, there's a funny thing about that.
Do you know how they attained that? Like, have you
seen the trick that they use to try to know?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
So you've seen the duck.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Yeah, the rest.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
So it blew my mind because I was like, there's
no way I could be accurate. But you know in
pac Man, there's a particular spot that you go at
a certain angle or a certain direction, the ghost will never.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Touch you, no matter what.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
They just it's like they I think they I believe
they call it a black hole. Is just a spot
where they will never touch you. They'll just keep going
around you unless they're actually chasing you. But you know,
like they have their pre where they all go into
their little zone. If you go in your spot, they will.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Never come to you. Huh.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
So wonder what spot it's.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
I'd have to have to short to you. But it's
in the bottom. It's in the bottom right corner, right
where the fruit is, so then you have to go
up into it.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Of cheaters, anything else Before we close, this is your
last character.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
My last character. I wish well for pac Man.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I will play a few times.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I'm sure Igno he's gonna be like a troll character. Yeah, yeah,
like you'll be mad that you get beat by a
pac Man. But I don't think he'll be a garbage
character at all.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I don't think would Although they they'd allow that in
street fight across tech eyebrows.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Mm hm, he doesn't know, no, no, he has like
it's like classical look because he does have eyes. Yeah,
I never thought about that.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Uh, like you said, legendary icon, you know, like you said,
kind of the pioneer of gaming, if you know, everybody
gives that credit to Mario, but you know it wasn't
her pac.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Man Mario and the console on the console, the.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Console wise for the industry right well, and even then
you have to think like the pac Man arcade games
kind of gave way to the Donkey Kong Arcade and
so forth.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
So he's worth mentioning. So I'm happy to end end, don't.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Hill Well, Our next episode is going to be top
twenty five from each of us games from previous generation console,
so that should be interesting because I know our lists
are very different. Yes, you can follow the show on
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(46:25):
until next time, good gaming.
Uh, so what we do in the show we talk
about famous or iconic characters from video games and then
go into their history and talk about, you know, everything
from every game they've been in and all the.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Cartoons, everything else.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
So this first ten episodes had been all inspired by Dante. Yes,
so we have characters that he would like to talk.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
About, and then some good choices.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah great, great, very una Nintendo heavy.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
But you know people love Linton, right, they share as
they share, and.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Then after that it'll be ten episodes of Moah My Choices,
and then we're going to have some special guests come
in and do their choices.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
So today is pac Man.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yes, I chose pac Man for my final episode, if
you Will, just because I thought it was important to
at least mention.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Him right in the beginning of our if you there's
season one, if you Will.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So we're gonna go through a long list of games,
quite a few, quite a few, but I think everybody
can speak to pac Man in some fashion, so I
think there'd be something for everybody.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
So pretty much we're going everywhere from nineteen eighty to
two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yes, just because I didn't really play anything except for
that reboot.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
And I expect to perform above average on the trivia
question today. Oh, I expect to because I can't imagine
if you're going to throw anything too crazy in my
head today.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
That's true. It is pac Man you're kind of talking about.
It's pretty limited.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, okay, well we'll jump into the trivia. Let's go,
mister confident I can get to my papers.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Number one, how many power pellets and the average board?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That is quick? Number two? How many dots for board
in the original pac Man?
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Cool?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
And it's actually been a current like I need a pen?
Number three? What is pac Man's original name?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Puckman?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Puck Man which sounded like a cuss word, change black Man?
Number four? What is the nickname of the red ghost?
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Blinky? Damn?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
So are you three for four? Which is actually where
I'll usually finish at with all?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That's true. Number five? What ghost do we know? Well?
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Is missing in the original game? You have in the
original game blinky inky pinky?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
But not well is it?
Speaker 3 (02:48):
There's Sue or Clyde except Clyde?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
That's fine? Yea what color?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Four for five? Huh? Number six?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
In which pac Man game can you jump first, the
first pack Man game that you can jump.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Pack Mania.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
That's correct, that's correct. Man, you aren't good at this.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Finally, number seven, what is usually the first bonus item
to appear in a level?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Okay, it would be the cherry, that is correct?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, huh.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Number eight game was released here in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
When was it released in Japan?
Speaker 4 (03:44):
Eighty two?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Also nineteen eighty?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Whoa the question?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Thank goodness, it worked really hard?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Six right? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Number nine Namco released the game in Japan. Who released
it in the US?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Mm hmmm for some reason, I want to say tech ma.
That's not right there?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Midway?
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yes, yes, yes, midway.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Last question, so what are we at?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Six for nine?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Six for nine? So you're either going to be seven
for ten or six for ten? What is pac Man's
wife's name? No, no, no, no, Missus blank pac Man.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What's her name?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Missus Puck pac Man?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Her name is Pepper pet Wow.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Okay, six for ten was a tough one.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Six for ten.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I don't think I've ever seen that anywhere.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
And actually was first introduced in the cartoon.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I've watched the cartoon.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, med too, All right, I'm fine with my d
that's n F.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Okay, I don't know what school you went to. My
grade school I went to school. Wow, that was n F.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Would you pass on Kirby?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Everything else been fails?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yes, but Kirby was technically a B. You say it's
a C. But anyway, I feel good about ending no
good job season.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That was good F on your last one. Yeah, so
if you did not know.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Pac Man, of Course is an arcade game developed by Namco.
First released in Japan in May twenty second, nineteen eighty,
was licensed for distribution in the US by Midway and
released in October the same year. The first hit arcades
became a huge hit, selling over one hundred thousand UNI
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incidents first year.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
So what'd you think first? Pac Man Man?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
So your story is probably gonna be different from mine.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
I actually hated pac Man when I first played it
because Miss pac Man was my first pac Man game,
and so the variations and upgrade to Miss pac Man
then going backwards, my first reaction was wise the.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Level of the same every single time, because it doesn't change.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
The difficulty does. So I didn't like it, But this
was not my first no either, Okay, but I can
appreciate it for what it is. I mean, I'm not
gonna at all say that it's a bad game, you know,
but there is kind of a challenge to're doing the
same level over and over at different speeds, with the
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dost reacting different and having a shorter window where you
can eat them.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
So I mean, if I had to rate it, I'd
give it a seven out of ten.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Okay, Well, the reason that it was so popular, so
in nineteen eighty, the only thing in arcades the signs
pinball machines were asteroids, space invaders, and pretty much sports games.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
But they were like they were pretty much palm. So
this was totally new, right, so like you eat stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It was just like like in the way Star Wars
was in the film industry, which is like mind blown,
there's this.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Little guy who eats ghosts. I want to play.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
So that was one of the reasons that, you know,
it was just huge. It also wasn't targeted towards like dudes,
so like when you go to the arcade, I mean
a lot of pinball machines have Kirby ladies or different
things that are more mad mantra stuff, cars things like that,
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and then obviously shooting things in space.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Very dudes, Oh my god.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Space.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
So this was the first game that was like, hey, girls, boys, mom's, dads, grandma.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
And grandpa's, everybody can play it.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I got you, and that's why it was huge following
year Miss pac Man was born.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
My understanding to that was, I guess that's your big change.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
That and that, and the level changes every two levels
the design so it gets really crazy as it goes on.
So that was my laundrymats laundy. That was my game
that I played for hours until I ran out of quarters.
You never got past the third.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Were still not on the one that I played.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Well, I wasn't born yet, true, true, true, But you.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Ad horrible.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Games.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Uh, so faster gameplay, Miss pac Man, I think arguably
could be considered probably the best pac Man game, even
though it doesn't follow our as our dude write, mister,
mister pac Man, his name is so this is Pepper, right,
Miss pac Man is Pepper, so our name. Her last
name was pac Man before.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
They got married, right, And I think they technically get
married in Miss pac Man.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, no, no, they get married in mister and missus
pac Man.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
That's the game.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
We'll get to that, uh, audience, you're going to find
out there's a lot of pac Man we don't know about,
and possibly you as well.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
In a way, there's actually pac Man games that Namco
didn't know about because Midway illegally used their license throughout
the eighties.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Really oh yeah, wow, oh yeah it was bad like
it was.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
It was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It was a I don't even see how that trustpires, but.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Well it's sure it happened in nineteen eighty too. Pac
Man Plus so it's created without Namco's permission. But see
Miss pac Man was.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Also created without Namco's permission.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Like Midwave just was like, hey, let's bank on this.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So they were showing out all these games.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Namco had no idea really besides of getting back to
them like oh okay, well they do have the license,
but they told us it should be getting something.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
So Miss pac Man. I well, it could just be me,
but I feel like it was more successful than pac Man.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, because because the Lemma design changed. Even though sometimes
it's just kind of like a mirrored version, and.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You have Miss pac Man everywhere in some places that
don't even need to be, it.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Was easier to get you.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Yeah, pac Man Plus pretty much is pac Man. It's
kind of it's I guess I would compare more to
Miss pac Man. Okay, but there's no fruit. It's all cakes.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Okay, but that's literally, that's literally what.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Pac Man plus is. It is pac Man in Miss
pac Man's game with Kick.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Sorry boy, I talk about really reaching for a game.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah, number nineteen eighty two again Super pac Man.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Do you remember that Super pac Man was when he
got really big? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:21):
But you also don't need pellets?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
Remember everything was fruit, yes, ye, yes, so weird, but
he got bigger than he ever has. I remember the
opening scene one anything because he comes back like he right,
But I remember the artwork more than anything because you
had him with cape, a red cape in his arms
and his legs and he was kind of in Superman
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post ya. So that was Super pac Man nineteen eighty two,
nineteen eighty two as well Mister and Missus pac Man
another midway game.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I'm disappointed in him.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Manco did not know about Mister and Missus pac Man.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I actually featured on the board. It was their wedding.
The opening of the game was their wedding. Grandma was
just a little too little.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Yeah, then they kissed.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
But it was the first introduction of like, I don't know,
I kind of like a world, you know, like where
these two live mister and missus pac Man. But still
it's not it wasn't any different than pac Man. Plus
I mean, it was just they just kind of hashed everything.
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Nineteen eighty two we had Baby pac.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
Man as that Pa.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Baby Pack.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Baby Baby pac.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Man is the first pac Man game I ever played. Okay,
note Baby pac Man is not an arcade game.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Baby pac Man is a pinball game featuring pac Man characters,
and there are points in the game where you use
the board to play traditional pac Man style games.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
It's like a bonus. This I played at the Move's
Lodge where my uncle was a member. Okay, like in
the Flinstones.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
So it was the first and probably well on that.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
It was a video pinball combo.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
It was made by Ballei, and according to the stats,
they only made seven thousand, so I guess it was
rare that I got to play this.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, I don't think people have heard of that, really,
I'm sure not because.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
The brand news with Junior Pac.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Two. Okay, it's a lot of games.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The last thing they released in eighty two was pac
Man Fever, but that wasn't a game, that was the
TV show.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Okay, I did watch.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
It, but it was just kind of weird.
Speaker 4 (13:46):
I was entertained. But again I watched it years later
after them, and that.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Was the introduction of names like Pepper pac Man. Baby
pac Man was in the show.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I do remember Baby pac Man.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So it aired from September twenty fifth, nineteen eighty two
to September first, nineteen ninety four, so forty three episodes,
two seasons.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Kind of weird concept.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I guess it's not bad though, for the two seasons.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna go rewatch them. No, No,
when did you watch them?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Quite your network?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Oh, for all I know, I could have been watching
a different innervation of pac Man, maybe because I don't
feel like I was watching eighties pac Man.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
So it's very possible I was watching something completely different.
So now I'm intrigued. I'm I'm gonna have to use
a couple of torps.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
That is illegal.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Nineteen eighty le Gramer does not condone the use of
illegal actions.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Nineteen eighty three, we have the release of Junior pac Man.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
This is the second pac Man game, that I played, Yes,
then I played Miss pac Man.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
I kind of went back. Yeah, but Junior pac Man
for some reason, I just like the younger.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Themed on Favorite pac Man.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Junior pac Man is my favorite as well favorite now. Granted,
big difference between them all.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
He is a beanie on us.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
The first thing that, like, I was just blown away with,
like how massive his levels were, like you had to
scroll left and light.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
It was just so huge. And the AI was definitely
much better, right, definitely better. But I too like that
he's just like with the beanie on his hair, He's
like the little pac Man.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, so you would probably put Junior pac Man miss
Miss Yeah. Definitely, both created.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Without permission, But I do remember Junior pac Man very well.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Eighty three was Junior pac Man eighty three again Professor
pac Man.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Okay, I never heard of that guy.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
It was pretty much Tetrius or Doctor Mario Professor Pa.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Well, Texas is better than Doctor Mario, So which one
is it?
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I disagree, m It's more Doctor Mario thanfessors.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Okay, that's not very good.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Nineteen eighty four we saw the first sign scrolling action
game in the series released, which was pack Land.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Pack Land yes, did you play Packland?
Speaker 3 (16:28):
I did not play Packland? Oh no, what you know what,
I don't believe I have the opportunity to.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I played. I don't know. Actually I think it was
I think it was a yes, probably Yeah, that one
I did not get to play. I remember, I remember it.
I remember wanting to, but you know, at that age,
I don't really have much say in what I want
to play.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
So so that was nineteen eighty four's pack Land. I
will see what system was on because now I'm curious
because I've laid it. But I remember playing it over
my neighbor's house, my neighborhood a Super Nintendo.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
But in eighty four, I don't think he did.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I do feel like it's been included in one of
their compilations at some point.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Well, I mean yeah, I mean a lot of the
games that they've done are just re redesigns, right whatever.
Of course, my I Pads.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Accum Well was a great game nineteen eighty eight. So
nineteen eighty four to nineteen eighty eight there was nothing really.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Eighty eight saw the last pac Man game to run
an arcade cabinet until ninety six.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
Ironic, the year out born.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
In ninety six, Year one, ninety eighty. Sorry, uh so
pack Mania it was three D, yes, I remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I like, Paia, how did it look? Well? I mean
it was fully three well right three as far as
what it was capable of.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
But it's a little bit challenging because because they're trying
to bring it or show to half the three D world,
you see a smaller scope of the maze, so a
lot of times you're turning the corners, like damn, the
girls is right there. I remember, yes, but it's a
fresh take on it.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
I remember his eyes being too small.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yes, and like we said, like I got correct in
the trivia question, you can jump, you can't.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
You can jump right over the ghost.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Although that sounds like it's a huge advantage, it's not,
because he bounces on the way down and you have
a period where you can't just like turn right back around.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
So do you remember that game?
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah? Actually you're playing out on my we right now.
Oh yeah, included in the Game Boy Advanced Virtual concertle Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah, nineteen ninety three, we saw pack Attack.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Yes, yes, remind me now now I have to change
that list again.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So Junior pac Man, then Pack Attack really Pack Attack
is amazing.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Why because it's unique.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
The same no no no, no no no no no,
I didn't play for I didn't have a super so.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Well so pack Attack it is Tetris, but.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You also have the ghosts that fall as blocks and
then eventually you'll get a pac Man that needs to
eat them, So you're doing two things at once. So so,
in other words, while I'm trying to stack it, I
also want to position it so that when I finally
get a packed Man, he eats a serious of him
and he's not being blocked off or not, or that
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the ghost aren't trapped.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Hmm.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
It's very unique. Sounds like it's It's good. It was
well received.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Where can I play that now?
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Also on the virtual.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Console it's actually bundle pac Mania, pac Man and Pack
Attack seven.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Bucks seven dollars, folks, yep, get on your virtual console.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Game. Pac played nineteen Oh really yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Nineteen ninety four, we had pac Man two.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
For the Stayer, right, Yes, I gotta change my molist again.
Why because I.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Love that game and it was a horribly received game
I found out being Metacritic, but I don't care. It's
also another game that's unique. You do not control pac
man at all. Okay, so he's I actually, you know,
I believe it's based on the animated cartoon. There must
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have been a cartoon that released around that time, because.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Might be the one that you've watched.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yes, So what you do is that you know he's
in the world, he walks around, and you fully interact
with the world.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So you have a slingshot and so like when you
start the game, like you're at his house, Like I
can shoot a slingshot his window and he reacts to it.
And then I can hit an apple and he like
stops me. He just interacts with everything that you do.
And then you can tell him, hey, look go to
the right, go to the left, or look up and down.
(21:41):
I know I'm describing this game very where you're probably thinking.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
This is not a game at all. This sounds stupid.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
I just don't get the what's the game player?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
That that was the gameplay. It's it's you triggering things
in the world and having him react to it. But
there is a story, There is a plot to it.
There is an ending. Okay. So I mean every level
you were supposed.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
To go find something that would take you to the
next stage that ultimately took you to the end.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Where you had to fight uh this boss. I can't
even remember her name.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
But it was like the Mega ghosty. You're so uninterested
right now, aren't you just when.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Because we've done enough of these Icon episodes to see
where characters go off.
Speaker 4 (22:34):
It's funny, you say, and then it's exactly funny you
say that.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Because well, I don't know if it's well, it's got
Damncom's name written on it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
So I don't think Manyway had anything to do with this, but.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
They absolutely did not want to do this game, but
they felt like they needed to do something different for
pac Man, which now today, as we've learned seeing all
these integrations of the same pac Man game, I feel
like they were justified in that decision.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
But you know, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I liked it, okay, so hey.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Top five.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
The year after that, nineteen ninety five, we saw pack
in Time. I have nothing to do with that one
me either, Super Nintendo. Yeah, pretty much. It was actually
a rebranded game. They just kind of put pac Man
as is the character. So the game was supposed to
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be Fury of the Furies or the Fury of the Furries,
but they just made pac Man the dude because.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
The Furries weren't cutting it. I guess.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, okay, and that happens. I mean even in film.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
The original or like the second Diehard film was supposed
to be a totally different movie, but they just.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Threw Jama Clan in it. So pac Man is the
Ja McClain of video games.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I agree, because he's just throwing himself into things that
don't really work in his world.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
So did not play it. But again, I did not
have a Super Nintendo.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Did you hear that? Folks? What you did not have
a Super Nintendo?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
No, our family was very budget conscious. I'm just trying
to make you feel guilty, though.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
What is the next game? Pac Man VR?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (24:39):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (24:40):
Let's we're going to We're going to learn what pac
Man VR is.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
You don't know what it is?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
No, I do not, neither do I. And this was
in nineteen ninety six, ninety six, okay.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It was a game featured a three D environment, so
similar perspective to Pack two, was it?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Yeah, similar to that.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
It looks like it was developed by a company called Virtuality,
but it actually was an arcade cabinet game. So this
was the game that brought them back into the arcade
even though the arcade was done.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Yeah, so that actually might be why we don't know
what the.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Game is, okay, because so it's not a console game
at all, no, okay.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
So basically it is a game designed by a company
that nobody really knew in the pac Man universe, but
it didn't fit what we know is pac Man.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Okay, So that's why we don't know what it is.
It will probably achieve it that way.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, I'm sure you want.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
You can find a YouTube video, all right, nineteen ninety nine,
So three years after their launched back into the arcades,
back again, we got pac Man World.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
So it's funny you said you made a comment earlier
about how they kind of like veer off. I felt
like I didn't play all of pac Man World, but
I do remember playing it. It felt very crash bandankootash.
It even looks crash band kootish right.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Three I mean fully three D world, this time on
the PlayStation. One kicks you Okay, Okay, he's got the
little pellets that's on the board, but he's going front
to back like crash ban.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Jumping, jumping, yes, doing all the white things so, I
mean I thought it was okay because I mean we
liked the Crash Bandicoot series. I mean, at that time,
it wasn't a lot of games like that, So I mean,
you can we could argue that pac Man is a
Crash ripoff, pac Man World is a Crash ripoff, but.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
It was a fresh take for pac Man, and I
don't think it was a bad game.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
So then we had in the year two thousand, Pack
in Party.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
This is another veer off project, is it?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
It is so similar to every party game, They're all
kind of the same. Anyway, that's Pack and Party was
his entry into the party game.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Okay, featuring the whole cast I'm guessing.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Okay, Silliness two thousand also had Miss pac Man May's Madness.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Did you play that?
Speaker 4 (27:37):
I did play that a little bit on the N sixty.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Four, okay, if I remember. It was kind of similar
to the pac Man World though it was actually.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yeah, actually it's not much different from that. It's again
just using her. She doesn't have a bell on her head,
she is she has the beauty mark. So oh.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
But you know what, now, did you say that there
is a game that I have to mention? Uh, it's
Miss pac Man. Oh wow, her name drops me. I'm sorry, folks,
but I know I played on Super Nintendo.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
It was the I believe it's the first time that you.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Had co op in pac Man because you had the
ability to have Miss and mister pack Her I'll say,
Mister pac Man on the same board, but it was
in Miss pac Man's world, but they were in it together,
so player one a player too, could actually be working. Yeah,
Saga Genesis and Superintendo, you actually could be working together
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to complete the maize.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
But it was much harder, right, so when you ran
into each other to just stop.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
When you ran into each other, you quickly would bounce
the opposite way and couldn't stop until you hit a wall.
So if there was ghost saying, you know, if the
ghosts chasing it and we need each other, it's a problem,
so you need to stay out of each other's way,
which is.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Kind of hectic.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
And they had variations where like you could play like
crazy style Miss pac Man or super hard or super easy.
With the board was just like Junior pac Man size.
It's really good, very good, especially glass to play with
co op. So I'm kind of surprised, like in some
form of fashion. We haven't seen another game like that,
(29:25):
but I remember playing hours of that from my brother,
So I can't tell you what year that were released.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Though I don't know those two thousand. We also played
pac Man Adventures in Time.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Cha's Time is a PC game, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
It was actually, you know, it was pretty much just
just PC.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yeah. I did not get a chance to get into that.
I remember looking at it and want to get it, but.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
I mean it had different time periods, so Egypt's fantas
and it's it's a lot like Pacman World.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Okay, just PC bass.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
So with the power of the PC, they were able
to make it bigger.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Right Oh yeah at that time. Yeah, yeah, that was
two thousand thousand.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Okay, it's weird because I've I gave up after that,
you know what I mean, I can't even tell you
I think.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Right.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, so, so here's the irony in this episode, Like
there's no doubt that pac Man is an icon, like
he's known around the world from the arcades, and even
though he's more of an eighties icon, like he's still
like people still know who he is today.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Oh yeah, but let's not make it bigger than what
it is.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
His gaming lineup library is not anything to really be enthusiastic,
very impressed of. He's just you know, I can't explain.
And you know, it's funny because until the day I
didn't know that most of his games.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Were illegal.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
Permission from the creator.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
That's quite interesting. So but nonetheless, he's a recognizable figure.
I mean, I don't I mean, pac Man won't be
done anytime soon, which is funny. I think it.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
No, I'm sorry, I think it's funny because you know,
like in our previous episode, like we talked about Crash,
like like, where is his future going?
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Well, pac Man is not really.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
True, you know, Yeah, I mean a lot like look
if you look at the people we've covered, Yeah, so Mega.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Man, Well, let's be honest, yeh Crash the cues right, uh.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
And then they have ones that stay around and have
games and keep coming out year of the year, like.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Son and Mario.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But pac Man is he's bigger than anyone we've talked about. Yeah,
to be honest, like he is, he's gaming, and he's
the he's one of the you know, it's the biggest
icon as far as that little mouth. Yeah, and he
(32:18):
I mean, there's no threat of his legacy. No, even
if he only shows up in things like Smash Brothers.
So two thousand and two, right, two thousand and two, y,
pac Man Fever? Did you play pac Man Fever?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
I did? I okay, game cute? Oh yes, I'm sorry
while I'm completely blanking out.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, So basically, even though it sounds cool, pac Man Fever,
it is actually Mario Park.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yes it is.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
I didn't know where you were going with that because
your facial expression name you think that you were going
to be excited for it.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
I did than that. But yeah, so board game style.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah, and that's some haichi. I think that's how you
pronounced it from Teking that is featured as a cast.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Member in that game.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
So weird.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's I mean, you know what, It's almost like how
we were talking about with the Crash, how like they're
just reaching for people to put in to throw into
our party game because they really don't.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Have the group.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, because I mean that is one thing we covered
heavily on the Crash. It's just like his racing games, right,
like who are you racing Crash?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Which even Hackman had he did game it's he.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Did, which is actually none on my list for a reason. Yes,
Hacman World Rally was two thousand and six. And again,
I mean here we'll go over the characters. Okay, for
the racing game, you have unlockable characters that go over first,
Figar and Kuka from Dig Dug okay, the Prince from Katamari, Domicy,
(34:04):
the Massy I don't even know, pac Man, Miss pac Man, Junior,
pac Man, Blankie, Pinky Inky Clyde, talk Man, Spooky Irwin,
and pac Devil.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Okay, yeah, what is pack Devil? I don't know? Did
he actually even listed as an unknown source?
Speaker 2 (34:28):
Well, he's never been in a game. The pack Devil is,
I guess the bowser to.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
I'm so upset as we're looking at this character right now.
This is so bad.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
It is literally a red pac Man.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
It looks well, he's red, blue gloves, blue shoes, jack
o' lantern.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Mouth with a devilish goatee. That is there. That was
their boo, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yeah, So like they're like, all right, we need a
big antagonist for pac Man.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Pack Devil.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
Could have just really kept it at the ghost and
been fine.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Packed Devil it kind of region yeah, kind of.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
So after.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Fever we had two thousand and two pac Man World.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
Yes, Pacman World.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
Do you remember pac Man World?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
I remember it?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Another game that was not really impressed with actually to
beyond it, To be fair, I played the DS version
of it. I did not play the console. I have
the console versions and somebody gave it to me. But
I'm kind of like so checked out of three D. Yes,
I'm so checked out of it.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
I just.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
But it doesn't you know, thinking back to prac Man
Ward one, I can't imagine that it's a bad game.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Yeah, I mean it's actially Metacritic, it's a seventy three.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah, I'm sure it's a good game.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
But unfortunately, like I keep going back to Crash because
I feel like they're on similar planes.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Crash didn't started an industry.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Though, No, no, no, no, well, I mean as far
as like where they kind of went going forward. Like
I even consider like buying some of these pac Man
games after, like we said, Crash three, Like, I.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Really wasn't interested in really playing any Crash Bandicy game.
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Ever, I can honestly say, like if a new one
came out today and it was, you know, really well received,
I wouldn't hesitate to party get it?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
What a pac Man game like pac Man like traditional?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
No, he like like a three D world like really?
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, I wouldn't hesitate because I've played some before and
they've been pretty good and they don't look bad, whereas.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
That one.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
That one actually does look bad, though it's what you want.
A game that quickly went to a budget title is
never good.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I agree. So is it called in the Ghostly Adventure? Yeah,
that's the newest.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
PA, that's the newest four. Yeah, looks it does look bad.
It looks well. The game looks targeted to a younger audience.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, it looks like there is there a new cartoon
because they're acting.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I think there are there is, actually, so if anything,
Pack fans more like Sonic Wow.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Wait, because he's still around, he's doing crappy cartoons.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Whoa, whoa. That's just not right at all.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
He's done a racing game.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
His racing games are good. Sony Transfer Racing is actually.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Pack Devil is not good.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
No, it's not.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Okay, it's not.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Are you saying it is?
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I'm saying it's just as good as Sonic All Star
Racing Transforms.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
It's really not so.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Besides the Ghostly Adventures we have him up hearing in
Super Smash Brothers.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Yes, which is odd.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Oh well before that, why don't you I have to
mention that he was thrown in the street fight across
teching true, which was weird. I was excited until I
found out they were going to stick him in a
robot and have the robot do all the fighting.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
So this isn't specials.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Won't be pac Man's first brawl if you will. Yeah,
I'm pretty corny with that.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
That was pretty corny, but yeah, so big surprise it
was announced that E three that he will be in.
That was their three man Yeah. Well actually, I mean
they capped it off with pac Man, but.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Since then we've had other announcements ray Man, so he
does not get his own episode.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
No, well.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
On the black List.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
But no. Yeah, so I'm excited for pac Man and in.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
His moves are weird.
Speaker 4 (39:29):
They are.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
I feel like they're like not well thought out, Like, hey,
nam comes helping us develop the game.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Right, explain that, Like why is pac Man and Supersmash Brothers.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Really, I think it's definitely because of Namco, Like people
knew that from the Star Wars and Sacka said that, yeah,
they got to be help with this. I'm okay with
that though, because I feel like they do an excellent
job with the Techni series.
Speaker 4 (39:54):
So I'm sure. Well, I've played bro I've played the News.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Match Brothers, and it feels very, very, very polished, even
at the stage of that right now, So I mean,
I'm excited to have pac Man. It's the first time
we'll have pac Man, Mario Sonic, and Mega Man all
in one game.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
So it's starting to feel like PlayStation All Star Battle Royo,
except just not that bad. Why I killed a maname
all right, So the end of the show, we're gonna
be talking about the perfect play, the perfect play of
pac Man.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
So a perfect pac.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Man game occurs when the player achieves the maximum possible
score on the first two hundred and fifty five levels
by eating every possible dot, power, pellet, fruit, and enemy
yes without losing a single life, and then scoring as
many points as possible in the last level. The last
(40:54):
level is pretty much get as many as you can
because you're gonna die. Many people have attempted to break
this record.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
It is in Guinness as well.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
I know that one can make counter of Sex your credit.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Now sit down, now it actually took nineteen years.
Speaker 1 (41:18):
It took nineteen years after the game came out for
anyone to ever finish pac Man.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
Now that is a feat.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yes, I actually watched that documentary on that team. It
was interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
The amazing feat was accomplished by a thirty three year
old Billy Mitchell, who finished pac Man with a perfect
play on July third, nineteen ninety nine. Yes, Mitchell completed
at all levels and he reached the two fifty six
half the screen became jumbled because it is an impossible
level to complete.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
It took him six.
Speaker 1 (41:51):
Hours to win the game and the highest score three
how is it? Three million, three million, three nine thirty three,
three hundred and sixty points. In September two thousand and nine,
so ten years after that, David Race of Beaver Creek,
Ohio became the sixth person to achieve a perfect.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Score Hometown Hero.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
His time three hours, forty one minutes and twenty two seconds,
so the new record for the fastest time to obtain
a perfect score. And there was manh I'll do another factory, Okay,
So so far we have six people that I'd beat
the game. The gentleman from Beaver Creek is the one
(42:34):
who did the fastest. I just wanted to go over
this red and December nineteen eighty two, an eight year
old boy, Jeffrey Rye received a letter from US President
Ronald Reagan congratulating him on a world ride record of
six million, one and forty points, a score only possible
(42:56):
if he had passed the unbeatable split screen level. In
September nineteen eighty three, Walter Day, chief scorekeeper at twin Galaxies,
took the US National Video Game Team on a tour
of the East Coast to visit video game players who claimed.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
They could get through the split screen level. No video
game player could demonstrate this ability.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
In nineteen ninety nine, Billy Mitchell offered one hundred thousand
dollars to anyone who could pass through the split screen
level before January first, two thousand.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Nobody has, but apparently the little boy did.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Okay, I don't love that. Yeah, I don't reader, but
Ron Reagan was nice enough to send him a letter.
So okay from Jellybuddies. No, there's a funny thing about that.
Do you know how they attained that? Like, have you
seen the trick that they use to try to know?
Speaker 2 (43:48):
So you've seen the duck.
Speaker 4 (43:49):
Yeah, the rest.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
So it blew my mind because I was like, there's
no way I could be accurate. But you know in
pac Man, there's a particular spot that you go at
a certain angle or a certain direction, the ghost will never.
Speaker 4 (44:04):
Touch you, no matter what.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
They just it's like they I think they I believe
they call it a black hole. Is just a spot
where they will never touch you. They'll just keep going
around you unless they're actually chasing you. But you know,
like they have their pre where they all go into
their little zone. If you go in your spot, they will.
Speaker 4 (44:22):
Never come to you. Huh.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
So wonder what spot it's.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
I'd have to have to short to you. But it's
in the bottom. It's in the bottom right corner, right
where the fruit is, so then you have to go
up into it.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Of cheaters, anything else Before we close, this is your
last character.
Speaker 4 (44:48):
My last character. I wish well for pac Man.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
I will play a few times.
Speaker 4 (44:55):
I'm sure Igno he's gonna be like a troll character. Yeah, yeah,
like you'll be mad that you get beat by a
pac Man. But I don't think he'll be a garbage
character at all.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I don't think would Although they they'd allow that in
street fight across tech eyebrows.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
Mm hm, he doesn't know, no, no, he has like
it's like classical look because he does have eyes. Yeah,
I never thought about that.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Uh, like you said, legendary icon, you know, like you said,
kind of the pioneer of gaming, if you know, everybody
gives that credit to Mario, but you know it wasn't
her pac.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Man Mario and the console on the console, the.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Console wise for the industry right well, and even then
you have to think like the pac Man arcade games
kind of gave way to the Donkey Kong Arcade and
so forth.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
So he's worth mentioning. So I'm happy to end end, don't.
Speaker 1 (46:02):
Hill Well, Our next episode is going to be top
twenty five from each of us games from previous generation console,
so that should be interesting because I know our lists
are very different. Yes, you can follow the show on
Twitter at the Liquid Gamer. We're also on Facebook the
Liquid Gamer Podcast. Make sure to comment, rate, subscribe, and
(46:25):
until next time, good gaming.
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