Comedy and Sex Work with Roy Wood Jr

Kick-off 2023 with our first guest Roy Wood Jr.! Join Jasmine & King for honest conversation that's not afraid to go deep as they discuss childhood crushes, Black philanthropy, and careers! Fun Fact: Contrary to popular belief, Comedy and Porn are not easy careers! Come learn and laugh in this safe space, and witness how Roy, Jasmine and King take up space in Comedy and Porn. Tune in for more!

Episode Transcript

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We can't talk about Luther in thesame week that our Kelly just dropped the
album The Fuck from Prison From Prison? What were he imprisoned for? Which
we are while come on, man, he said, that's not what I

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ain't abusing, abusing a little bit, just a little bit. Oh my
gosh. All right, so wehave um something to start us offway,
something that brings us all together becausepeople are wondering, probably why we're the
three of us in this. Theyalready saw the daho. I'm very excited.

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I saw that. They of coursethey didn't because they were searching porn
and somehow we popped up. Yeah, but here our turf, so you
know what that means to fuck upyour algorithm. Um, we asked our
brother from Legacy, my bio brother, to give us an ice breaker.
So we're gonna we're gonna do something. But these Yeah, hey, Victoria,

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what a bunch of records. Timeit was bring sexy. So there's
some sexy to some regular I wantto see who finds the sexiest record.
Okay, all right, all right, but we'll let our guest dig first.
Now, am I am I amI pulling blind? Am I just
gonna you know, right, Okay, Now I don't know who these brothers.

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They got the line of Richie fromYeah that's in Spanish. I can't
read that little kinn okay, Andthen they go again, all right,
yeah these brothers. Yeah, Igot a couple joints. How do you
get that big Daddy Kane? Howyou pull a big dadd he came?
I like his name, you gottried. I mean it's got electric relaxation

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on it, which which is definitelysex. Yes, I gotta I gotta
give a quick shout out to bigDaddy came. Man, Daddy came is
in this um this a live NewJack City stage play that's touring right now,
and Yo killing killing it man like, I'm not like it sounds crazy

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on paper, like the Black Movie. As a play, it was entertaining.
Let me tell you where he gotJohnson got a hit where he got
his warm up at well, YoKan was in Playboy back in the day.
I remember he took the people.People was going after him. Now
you see a lot of rappers startingon only fans or even managing adult performers

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only fans and shit like that.So it's trail blazer he was. He
was big Daddy ain't made room forBig Daddy King. Well, you know
what I what I like about whatI enjoyed. I got public endemy,
welcome to the Terror Dominey about thatknowledge, Yeah yeah, Informa said,
okay, sexual. What I appreciatedabout Big Daddy Kane was that he always

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made records. He made sure thatit's kind of like Llo cooolj where I'm
gonna make sure that I'm talking towomen at some point in a couple of
these songs so that they feel engaged, like this ain't just I'm I'm I'm
gonna murder my love also ladies chesexy operator. I met him um when

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I was like six years old,and he was he was nice enough to
stop his dinner and say hi tome. He was childhood crushed, and
I think I'm old enough to crushnow. So what's up, big daddy
came. I haven't met any ofmy childhood crushes, like I wouldn't even
when would I even run into them? Like when am I gonna run into

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Keshaw Pully him? Like I don't. Oh, but at the HBCU reunion
you could do it now, Yes, Daily Show, keep us so busy,
I don't get to go to shitlike I would. All right,
maybe that um, Laura Winslow,Kelly, Kelly Williams, I don't.
I'm gonna google her name and makesure I get her name. La family

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matters, Steve Racl's girl I hada crush on. But I try to
make sure that I see people's actualname because I don't like calling the You
know, black people, we loveto do that, whatever role we know
you from, for the rest ofyour life. I was, I was
in the airport with car Anthony Payne, and um, we're coming off the

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plane and folks are just calling himcold from the gate to baggage claim.
Hey Cole with Martinett Cole, youknow, you just want to be mad
on the nigga's behalf to the Butwhen I'm walking with him, can I
get a picture coat? Nah,he ain't doing no pictures. You don't

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know me for shit. I'm justsome comedian. He recognized when I'm like
walking with him, Yo, yo, backup off cold, I mean call
you. Yeah, that's what we'llsay. What you got, biggie?
Okay, what's sexy about more chance? Oh yeah, that's that's a classic
right there, Big popum. Yeah, so you pay Public Enemy for your

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sapio sexual um. You have BigDaddy Kane and you have Big d Oh.
I had Big Daddy Cane. I'mstill thinking about Big Daddy King.
Kelly Williams. I was right.I know my crushes Laura at Kill.
Well, since we all throwing ourcrushes out there, shot day when you
get back on this world tour,throw me some tickets. You're really doing
it? Are you really going?I am, I'm shooting my shot.

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You shot your shot. I'm withmy crush. How about that? No,
you already you already saying Big DaddyKane. But I heardson grow up
in In the spirit of keeping thispodcast going, I believe our sponsors a
legacy said that our guests get tokeep their selection. So wow, yeah,

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well, thank y'all. To me, here's the thing about Public Enemy
yourself to me, give just aquick club backstory about my upbringing. You
know, my mother is I thinkentering her fourth decade in higher education at
a black college, and my fatheris what was a civil rights journalist for
the better part of his life.So everything in the house was about black

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knowledge, black power and knowing moreand knowing yourself. So when like this
was one of the first rap albumsthat I could listen to in the house,
like like Publican one of the firstrap artists that I could just openly
listen to because a lot of itwas about black positivity. It's about black
power. And I think when youtalk about you know, room and young

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leaders and room and young black meninto something so that they're aware, you
know, just on some third eyeopen type shit, you know, I
do think that there's something dope aboutmen who care about the next generation of
black men. And I think ifyou do that the right way a woman
to be like, ooh, Iwant to have a baby. Shout out.

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Shout out to Shout out to apublic enemy for doing that for years
strong and Chuck still out there doingwhat's right, still touring and also you
know, guiding younger artists and allup to Chuck. Do you pull up
to them black colleges man and bespeaking like he's not just rapping no more

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like it's it's one of the hehas one of the more interesting second acts
of that first generation of rapper ofhip hop in my opinion. But yeah,
shout out to them, man,shout out for that line about Elvis's
lane motherfuck him and John Wayne Foreveralso wrote almost, but he never shout

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out to legacy. UM, definitelymake sure that y'all wrote down there.
I also know in there is youknow this Marvin Gay album that has what
is my favorite Marvin Gay song,If I Died a Night, which I
think just writing it's like one ofthose songs like you know how like sometimes
you'd be like, damn, howcan you really put love and lust and

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passion into words? He's like,yo, if I died a night,
be far before my time, butI need this moment which you type shit
like that shit that song sexy asfun. I don't know, I'm gonna
snatch that. That's that. That'sthat one point out that's like up there
with that, UM did thing?Was it? That jaheem? Just in
case mhm Jem's hit I might diewhen I leave a house. Let me

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go and hit that one more time. That's that Jersey ship. That's Jersey
upfront. It just killers out there, take the pen is off just in
case I don't make it home.At least you said make love. That
was nice. Yeah, that's fair. We know, Yeah, all right,

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so we are so honored to bejoined by a comedian extraordinaire, actor,
writer, producer and philanthropic Like you'rea hero. I have my days.
I ain't no hero. I justtry to make Alabama better. You're
doing it. That in itself isheroic. Increasing the literacy rate for young

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folks there, helping people get matchedto jobs like that's what's up. Yeah,
we tried, we tried. Youknow, it's easier in Birmingham.
The hurdle is when you leave themlittle democratic pockets in the state and you
try to do like philanthropic work andstuff like I want without getting into a
lot of the details of it.You know, we're trying to still introduce

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film and TV crew training. Theonly way you can get film and TV
is if you got places to traincrew. And so I had it laid
out with some of my connects.You know. The one thing I am
grateful for in the city of Birminghamis that, you know, for the
ten fifteen years that I did MorningRadio, I made a lot of connects.

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I never asked for no favors,and everybody that was here is now
here, and they still they honorand night like I'm calling them marks out
the ass the last couple of years, and we were trying to get some
film and TV stuff done, andwe were going to get a lot of
it done at a particular black communitycollege in central Alabama. But it's a

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predominantly black US one wasn't the hood. And what it was basically laid out
to me was and it wasn't saidlike this, but this is what they
were saying, is that in thestate Alabama, you can't do nothing that's
gonna benefit of black college, evenif it's a community college, if they're
in a way, if they're ina way for the white to have access

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to it as well, but ifthey don't want to do it, then
you can't do it. So it'syou know, it's stupid shit, like
like like, this is the samestate where our Mayor Randall woodfind tried to
raise minimum wage statewide, citywide mandatoryminimum age city Burnham tried to raise it
in fifteen dollars Montgomery. It waslike, Nah, what y'are doing up

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the keep that ship down at seveneight dollars or whatever the fuck it is.
So that's the stuff you're kind ofup against it. And so you
know, I don't have a lotof Like I'll say, I'm quick to
say, I don't think I'm acelebrity. I'm just on cable like I'm
recognizable, like, but I'm notlike everybody who there you go, who
tmz. But I got just enoughleverage to where I can try and get

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some ship, to get some outsidemoney to come into the city to make
sure. You know, the literacyrate with black kids as it relates to,
you know, going to prison,you learn how to read, you're
less likely the little prison and statisticsto stressed that simple. So fuck it
and let me figure out a wayto get some money to get some books
into the city. That's It's definitelyabout doing what you can. Like a

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lot of times people make it seemlike, yo, I gotta get to
this magical millions to be able tohelp the hood, to help my people
in some sort of way, Likein any way you can, and you
live in proof and testament to that. Bro. We got my high school
baseball team, which I wrote thebench on. We had the folks of

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a meta an Oculus had reached outfor me to do some shifts. I
can't even remember what it was,but I just told my people. I
was like, ask some white folksthat they give me some free head sets.
They're like yeah, they said,they'll give you five. All right.
Bet there's a company that does baseballthat has like VR baseball batting print,
like a VR training ask them ifthey'll donate the software to them.

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Goddamn head says to the mother whitefolks, and they're like yeah, And
so I took them shits down tothe baseball team because when you look at
and it's a predominantly black baseball team. When you're playing baseball as a black
kid baseball, little kids turning inthe golf, is turning in the tennis.
You know, niggas is getting pricedout of it. You can't play
to go pro. You gotta playtravel ball because when you play in the

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city, when you play at acity level, Lisa Birmingham, you don't
always see the best competition because allthe black kids that are good at baseball
are probably good at another sport.So they're somewhere at another school. So
if this will help them get betterat baseball and maybe fuck going pro,
just get a scholarship. So ifyou ain't seeing ninety five mile an hour

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sliders every day, which is whatyou need to see to get better at
this. Then put on this fuckinghead set that these white folks gave me
and go staying your ass in thegym and hit ninety five our sliders and
then go get a scholarship. That'sthe So I mean, I'm not I
can't pull up with a truck fullof headsets for everybody, but god damn,
here's four for the baseball team.Here's one for the library so that

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the rest of the students in theschool can learn about Web three point zero
and metaverse and all these other placeswherever everything is supposed to go eventually,
and that's gonna take all the jobsgoing learn now about what's gonna take the
job. But you think you wantto. Damn, it's like just so
much that we have to do toget our to get our people to what

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seems like the baseline, and thenthe damn baseline moves. But we're doing
it. Yeah, yeah, we'retrying. But you know, I'll just
say this, like I know thatI've been blessed for since ninety eight to
be able to grow as a comedianand an entertainer and do a bunch of
other different ship but I know allof this shit just leads back to Birmingham.

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So whatever I'm doing now, letme going on start planting some seeds
of goodness so that when I ameventually back there, the relationships will be
in place and the groundworker be inplace to truly do stuff that can you
know, make some degree of change. But you know, it's weird working

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for the Daily Show because the DailyShow is so global and maybe it was
just out under Trevor, but it'ssuch a globally minded show and nationally minded.
But really all I care about thestate and local politics because that's where
the change happened. Like that's whenthe activists are them the people doing all
the actual shit. Like we focuson the policymakers all the time when we

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forget that there's people at the stateand local level that are the ones that
are actually you know, the tipof the sword. So I'm more interested
in those stories. That's why it'slike, if you look at people who
are looking to do the opposite toour community, to keep but away from
all those things, have been tellingtheir vote to get involved as local as
possible. That's why you see allthese people trying to stop woke and stop

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gay and all that shit at allschool board meetings, um even name state.
Steve Bannon told them years ago,go be the tech, Go go
be part of your local school board. Go be part of this, Go
be part of all these local things, so then you can control what is
and what isn't happening in your areaand then just ripple it out with which

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which does lead to one of ourquestions for you is being that you focus
on black volte we in our industrybecause we focus on black volte running a
certain glass ceilings and glass walls andyeah, all that kind of stuff.
Have you have you found that withincomedy that you run into those same sort

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of problems anywhere, whether it bewith clubs or trying to get projects off
the ground. It is with thesecond thing. The club's not so much
because black people spend money. Comedyclubs fuck with black comedians hard. Like.
If there's racism and discrimination within theclubs, a lot of it comes
from them trying to pay pinch onthe money and lie about how many tickets

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you sold, like it's just jankiepromoter shit, Like I wouldn't even say
that that's that is racism that canbe navigated, and there's ways around that
ship, Like you can get aroundthat ship. But when you pitch a
TV show that's a black show,and then if it's too black, you

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know they might not pick it up. So then you got a trick and
act like, oh no, it'sa show about cultural and poverty and and
and then pick it up and thetricky bitch it was black as fuck the
most recent one. Did you haveto use that approach? You at a
point where you're like, they knowthat you're just going to be they know,

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they know now. But for me, like with my stand end up,
it's basically, here's the black issuethat you only see in a binary
sense. Let me introduce a thirdangle to the conversation. I might not
have a solution, Like I'm nottrying to be no, here's the problem.
Here is how you fix it.It's just no, here's stand for

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the anthem, taking me for theanthem? Wait, why do we even
play the anthem? Like that's thebigger buckstanding the nil? And why is
this song even being played before agame? Like it's not like on some
indoctrination type shit. So like that, that's where I choose to try to
explore my comedy. But you know, being a black person in entertainment,

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you one million percent run into alot of different hurdles at the development level.
And I think that a lot ofit is gaslighting where you're not told
you're told, oh no, everything'scool, but you know, deep down,
somebody's fucking with me. Yeah,And we spend the money. That's

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the thing. Like even I mean, like you said, with the comedy
shows, but also just in generalblack folk, we spend money on entertainment
when we like the shit. Yeah, if a comedy club was wrong to
black, to a like any prominentblack comedian that seales tickets, I come
talking like a some more DL hugelyor earthquake. Like if them niggas say

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that club it's a no fly zonefor black comics, then it's a no
fly zone, And then what isthat club going to do? Because there
aren't enough white comics selling tickets atthat level for that club. Ain't no
comedy club that's open fifty two weeksa year only booking white boys. You
can't, Like, you just can'tand like to sell real tickets to make

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real money. No, it's likeyou can't do without explain that it's the
same ship, yeah, the samesh like you can't the highest selling ship,
yeah, is either interracial or ithas some some point of people of
color with it. So it's justlike, you know, so these companies
who make all these films at somepoint if they want to be profitable,

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or even if you think about it, I mean, whether it was interracial
or because you know, we're notpeople, We're we're categories, you know
what I'm saying. So it wouldbe like big black Dick Latina, you
know, all these all these categoriesof people, Asian or you know what
I'm saying, Like they can't makeit without us, but they always then

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make a whole lot of shit withoutus, you know what I'm saying.
Or if you or if you lookat like award shows or things like that,
they don't have black hosts, evenif the top selling performer of that
year or the top search performer thatyear was a black or brown woman or
something. You know what I mean, I don't care. You know what's

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interesting about your interest industry that Ithink it's a little different from comedy the
same different is there accountability or callout culture for people for black people that
do stuff that that, like thatperpetuate stereotypes like if you choose to be
in the slavery porno within your industry, is there a man, why the

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fuck would you do that thing?Because like, as a comedian, if
you if you made a show thatwas too far to the left of what
black pooks like, Yo, man, why would you big black people look
like that. A couple comedians aregonna call you out, but more importantly,
like black people in the streets aregonna call you out about it in
the streets. Yeah, more thanother people in the performer community that I've

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seen. I will say black womenin the industry for sure, but it
might not be black women who havethe loudest voices, but like or the
biggest platforms, you know what I'msaying. But like I think with black
men within the industry, it's sucha small number of people that everybody if

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they if they shoot primarily for mainstreamporn, they're all afraid to lose whatever
that spot is, so they don'twant to say anything that could piss off
any of those companies. And there'salso this thing about being sexually open and
allowing people their sexual expressions and thislike as if there is a separation between
reality and what we do sexually,where it's almost like if you yuck somebody

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for being for participating in that,it's like you are attacking their sexual preference
in orientation, you're a shaming them, which is a little bit different when
you're talking about comedy. For whateverreason, they're you know, separate and
naturally. Also, sometimes like wewere talking which before about is you might
be in a scene that was justlike I think you actually we have brought

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it up on the should a BlackBlack Wives Matter scene? You actually knew
the woman that was on the coverof that box and talking to her,
she was like, no one toldme that's what it was. They were
just told They just told me Iwas shooting with a white guy because in
that particular scene, he wasn't likeno Houn Black Wives Matter or some shit.
They just threw that shit on thereat the time. But then there's

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other people who have been in sceneswhere you'd be like, you had to
know that. I always forget theirname, but it's the one ws the
two white ladies that dresses cops andshit, oh yeah, and they're pulling
over black men. And then basicallyit's like you're I've I will call that
shit out because technically y'all are justistsplaying off of this ship that trauma beyond

(23:38):
what needs to be out there.But then people were looking at me like
why are you why are you workingwith people back, and I'm like,
nah, that shit is wrong,be like across the board. You know.
The other thing too, is thatpeople in the industry get a pass
on being ignorant, even though wemay know them, like you know you
know better, like we know youand we know you know better. I

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think people in comedy folks think that, like you, we know you definitely
know better because we know a littlebit more about who you are as a
human, like that you went toFAM or like that you are on the
Daily Show and you know these issuesand how they impact for us. We
be getting a pass on, youknow, people, people don't have to
actually share parts of their lives,how they grew up, where they grew

(24:22):
up. So some people a realname, they might not. They might
be like, yo, I mightbe from Birmingham, but I ain't never
going back. I live at LAnow you know what I'm saying. Like
people might have that kind of mentality, so they don't have a connection to
they don't feel a responsibility to theculture. And that degree right because also
when people see you and know youin the airport, they'll how let you.

(24:44):
They might look at us, I'min therapy or I'm in a one
the two. Don't worry Like Iwould never disclosing it. But it's like
you do. You do, likepeople will look at you and they're trying

(25:04):
to catch your eye one of theseYou're like, that's creepy as fuck.
But just pay for our bill.You could do that, Like you don't
even have to say, just takecare of our bad when I'm out my
head on the swivel, though,man, because you know, I guess
the difference between between us is thatwith the Daily Show, you know,

(25:29):
to me, politics is wrestling withconsequences, like it's like the people at
the top bickering and arguing with eachother both sides and nah CRT black history.
Like the people invested in those conversationsare crazy enough to pull up on

(25:52):
the White House on January six.So if you'll pull up on the motherfucking
government for doing but you don't agreewith what you're gonna do to me on
a regular day, in New YorkCity. If you catch me walking back,
that's true. And I'm not sayingthat that's the norm, but I
just I am. When people lookat me, I speak, I'm bombing

(26:15):
first because I want because if youwant some funck shit, you can read
it. You can read it likeyou can't. You can't hide evil intent,
especially not at the distance. Sofor me, I'm trying to get
more information from you. I'm notsure you're man. It's cold out here.
Man, whatever it is, I'mgonna break the ice. And if

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you're a friend, you're gonna takethe conversation to a friendly place. And
if you foe, you're gonna icecream me. You're gonna whatever it is.
But know that I see you,Know that I am aware that you're
in my space. Like that typeof ship. So they do have that
in our industry too. Of weget the religious zealots who are like or

(27:00):
shouldn't be a thing, or ifyou're queer or trans or something like that.
Like I know people who've who've hadmotherfucker show up at their house looking
to kidnap them. Yeah, totry and teach them to try and yeah,
awesome storm in the capital ship totry and teach them to not be
to not have made them gay forliking the shit. You know what I'm

(27:21):
saying. So your your evil deityin my world, I must destroy you
in order to heal. You mustgo away, and then also with what
with what you got, will getthe how dare you bring CRT into my
jerk off time? But but forlike you, you've also gotten UM hate

(27:42):
hate mail through the Internet and messagesand stuff because of your religious background,
UM, because of your sexual explorationas a black man. UM. They
sent my entire triple X Twitter portfolioto UM, to Florida Congress, to
the department that I worked for forthe government that I don't work for.

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Number Yeah, so we are.We do have a lot more in common
our people do a little bit.Our people are not people haters, you
know they are, I guess alittle bit more um undercover or like the
direct I don't know. It's hardto say, because of people showing up

(28:25):
at people's houses calling the people ona on their households. Yeah, I
don't know. Like when I thinkabout comedy, like and I think about
somebody like like Dick Gregory or somebodylike that, you know, they probably
got like the whole FBI file.Yeah, you know what I'm saying like
that. I don't know if thereare any porn stars specifically who got the

(28:45):
whole file like that, but butI definitely know that there are, you
know, whether it be people ofcolor who speak out about the industry or
people who are you know, acrossthe lg BT spectrum who there's just their
people who are like, nah,like this gotta stopped, because it's it's
also one of those talking points that'sreally big right now with everybody. So

(29:11):
yeah, I've just I've just neverand I never really thought like this until
I started working at The Daily Show. And then once you know, once
once everything I flipped the Trump andfolks was like really like running up on
motherfuckers. And then and then youknow, they I'm gonna say, they
started running up on Asians, butit became more prevalent within the news cycle.

(29:33):
I'm like, Okay, so theyreally all right, so that's what
we're doing. Nay. I justI keep my head on a swivel because
I also know that, you know, the type of stand up that I
do, you know, as itgrows and as our mature as an artists,

(29:55):
I'm gonna be talking a lot moreshit, you know, and people
love to try and shut you up, And it seems like that's very similar.
If you all, they want youto stop doing what you're doing,
even though millions of people fuck withwhat you're doing. But it's it's the
same thing. You're a black manwith a voice, you know what I'm
saying. You're choosing to express yourselfhow you want to express yourself when we're

(30:18):
all that shit. You know whatI'm saying that. I think it's the
same kind of thing where our sexualitywas defined by white people across the board.
I was just reading this whole thingabout the slave that escaped from Martha
Washington. I gotta look up hername, so please excuse me night sharing

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this the horrific details of this yo. She escaped Martha Washington and George Washington
was trying to find this this womanum. She escaped to New Hampshire,
and George Washington, the fucking presidentof the United States and leader of the
military, was looking for this onewoman with um with with an agent and

(31:02):
then New Hampshire wouldn't give up.They were like, nah, you're free
here, and then so they kepttrying to over the span of like years,
we're trying to convince her to comeback. Like I don't know if
they was writing her letters, whatthey was doing, but like, yo,
come back, come back to slavery. Now like telegrams, we have

(31:27):
another telegram your mom like telling themI'm not coming back. But it's but
it's like yo any any And Ijust think about that in a sense of
any aspect of our freedom, whetherit's your voice, whether it's your body,
whether whatever it is, they're alwaysgonna try to stop it because as
long as long as we are keptin a place, the rest of this

(31:52):
ship works the way it's supposed towork, the ship ain't supposed to work
with our freedom. Let me,since we talked about the similarities in different
learning that they're I mean, itsounds like the only thing that's different is
you keep your clothes on when you'rein front of the camera and we don't.
But it's still in the spirit ofentertaining strangers, entertaining strangers while also

(32:12):
getting something out of it, catharticfor yourself to a degree. So if
we could switch up for a dayand you were a master fetish trainer and
we were some form of comedic entertainers, What South comedy would you choose and
what fetish would you be the specialiston a master fetish trainer. M it's

(32:35):
phone sex a fetish. Okay,then that's my lane. Okay, that's
your lane. That's your description kindof be like help walk me into Yeah,
come on, I think I'm stilltrying to host a TV show at
some point. Maybe that's it.Maybe, maybe that's it. Show us

(32:57):
how you know, boring your phonesex on me. Maybe, No,
my phone sex is not born.Here we go, here you go.
You should start right there, rightthere, like don't see you see if
she's doing the psychology she disrespect meto get me to prove myself and then
and then when I try to holdsome late night ship that year, then
they'd be like, hey, nigga, we saw a clip of you talking

(33:21):
about wanting to get dumb about youknow, only go where you're comfortable.
Wait what am I doing? AmI showing people how to headphone sex?
No? No, just what wouldyour like give us an advertisement for what
your phone sex line? Would say? Like you know, when you when
you like if I was you know, from like if I was making like

(33:45):
an Instagram. Yeah, Hey,what's going on? Fellas sher boy Royal
Wood Junior. If you ain't gotthe gift of gab on the phone,
you ain't gonna get the droll.So do what you can and pay for
my own line. Course. Itis a masterclass on flirting via text and

(34:10):
over the phone. If you're dealingwith an old chick who still take phone
calls, get him a sex pantherright now? No, I yeah,
yeah, you know, I phonesex because I travel so much, so
like I would imagine that that probablybecame a thing for me in my twenties.

(34:37):
When you're just traveling, you're justaway. Man, I showed wish
I was there. What would youdo if I was the girl? You
know? I would take And thenyou have to paint a picture. And
then at that point my degree isin broadcast. So at that point it's
literally the colors, the smeth youhave to it's journalistic. It is what

(34:59):
did you see? Who was there, what happened, what did it sound
like, what did it smell like? Like that level of descriptiveness, So
that always wins. That's what that'swhat people always tell us. The descriptions
for y'all, scenes are so areso African detailed and the same thing.
You smell it, if you couldtaste it, if you could feel it,

(35:20):
and you in that moment, thenpeople like I gotta watch this.
Look at those transferable skills though,from journalism into sex works. All right,
I got my fallback. I gotmy fallback career set up already,
you know, low key. Everybodythat I know in your industry is either

(35:44):
I don't want to say funny,but they have comedic timing. Like there's
a performance aspect, Like I've neverseen a porn comedy per se. I've
seen porns that were unintentionally funny,a whole lot of those. See a
lot of that, but no,like there's just like you two. You

(36:07):
two could do some sort of likechemistry type two persons show, Oh shit
gassing? Yeah yeah, my manifestationjournal over here. Okay, So what
type of comedy I'm happy to I'vebeen told that I could do improv comedy.
Well, you're quick as fuck,I think of. And this isn't

(36:29):
just because we are on the samewebsite and partners and shit, but like
doing scenes with you both on cameraand like working with you know, like
clients in person, You'll be pullingsome shit out of nowhere, and I'd
be like, I'll be stuck.I'd be like where does she even get
that from? And like you canrun with it. You have a good

(36:50):
memory also, so you can likepick up on what you know what to
ask people to get to draw thethings out. And I feel like in
like in like improv and shit,you know, I've been to some improv
shows where they're like pulling things fromthe crowd and if they could go back
to that person that said that shipin the crowd, people are like,
oh shit, it's like like afreestyle. Yeah, you call back how
much how much of a scene isimprov versus you know, all right we

(37:15):
do doggie and then the dude missionaryand put your leg of on the thing
and then we go on vers camera. Yeah. I've worked for some other
like taking Royal Fetish out of it. Other companies I work with, they
are very thatsh it is shotless,like to shotless to the tea And then

(37:37):
the reason I would say that youdo see a lot of porn where it's
like it's funny when it's not supposedto be funny. One just because you
do porn and you can fuck gooddoesn't particularly mean that you're an actor.
Just like there's a lot of comediansthat are hilarious on stage, but they
don't translate on film. So likesome of us, we get our scripts
like fucking day of they'd be like, you know what I'm saying, you're
a construction worker. Here your lines, and you'd be like, yo,

(38:00):
I just got here, and I'mstaying like you should have sent me this
like two weeks ago or something.You know. So a lot of times
people who might not even be actors, or they might not be comfortable.
They might be good at acting,but they can't deliver lines because they need
to memorize or whatever. So likethat shit. And then there's some companies
that you gotta do the exact positionsthat they're asking, like we need reverse

(38:21):
cowgirl, we need this, weneed this, we need this for this
amount of minutes. With us,we might we do more of a framework,
yeah, like this is what it'sabout. If we're going to do
something that's outside of reality. Okay, So then that leaves more room for
people like you're not a talker andshut the fuck up and do what you
can do. You are a talker, feel free knock shit up, yeah,

(38:45):
because that should be whacking your reallife. If you are like,
all right, we're gonna fucking needsfour positions this amount of time in real
life, you can tell who watchesthat porn template because they fucking that order
and it's very oh shit, yemight switch it up, switch it up,
you think, Yeah, my girl, it's about time for the reverse

(39:07):
cow girl, like yeah, blowjob, eat you out doggyr style and
then get on top. No youdon't know, yeah, missionary first,
or you might finish on face onFacebook. Yeah, if you just go
straight breast if you're you can tellif you're if you watch ass breast or
facial come porn. But that justoff of that, Yeah, that's the

(39:30):
template. My X had it.You're right, I'm going and then I'll
be passing it around. We know, and then then we got our timing.
That's why we can take our orgasmsso well because we know it's coming.
All right here, you guys splitme over facial and like it's it's

(39:51):
wild because then you can like essentiallytell who's been watching what just off of
how they move in the bedroom.That's why it's good to watch like you
know, indie or independent filmmaker porn, because it'll give you inspiration outside of
that temper. You know, it'slike a sitcom, right, you're kind
of thinking about like comedy sitcoms.How you you kind of know what's going

(40:12):
to happen no matter what show itis, you know how it's gonna end.
And then you see a show likeAtlanta that just doesn't follow. Yeah,
yeah, you don't talk about thatin the last Wait then, so
then to the improv point. Thensome of the dialogue then has to be
improv because if you have a scenepartner that's doing some different shit, then

(40:34):
you have to acknowledge yeah, well, oh you undertake my leg like that.
Oh, you're just gonna take theleg because we actually we do a
lot of scenes with people who wantto try something for the first time.
So there are other performers in ourindustry, but they're like, yo,
I've never been I've never done hotwax, or I've never been flogged,
or I've never been sounded or I'venever been like just run down the list.
So it's like you can't really ifwe write something, they're gonna be

(40:58):
up there like I don't know howI feel about this, you know what
I'm saying. So we want thenatural. We're just gonna take him out
of the scene any exactly. It'slike, yo, be yourself unless you're
a person that's into role play.If you into roleplay, we could rock
with some role play. And Ithink for me when we started doing Royal
Fetish, that was one of thethings that was so important because I had

(41:21):
done a lot of studio porn whereit was just like I'll be on set
like and this is before eating pussywas part of the order and be like
she just gave me half for likefifteen minutes. I feel like I should
eat her pussy. Also, notjust because I want to, but like
it's only right, you know whatI'm saying. But like before it would
be on something like no, it'snot in the script, like what I

(41:45):
don't even make sense. And that'swhy so many people now like, I
don't eat pussy there because I ain'tsee it in the movie. I ain't
I ain't doing it whatever that man, you don't do it because I ain't
seen it in the movie, orjust in the sense of like being connected
with somebody and being turned on bysomebody you do want to do shit that
pleases them. Why would you nothave that in a scene that don't make

(42:07):
no sense? So we want thingsthat will go organically in that kind of
way. What comedy. I lovestand up? Yeah, that's what you
switch it for a day. IfI switched for the day, I want
to try to stand up. Ithink that's the hardest form of entertainment because
every other type of entertainment you couldpick one thing about some shit where you're

(42:29):
like, oh, man, likeI ain't like that beat, but dude
got flow, or you know whatI'm saying. She might not have looked
good, but oh she sucked dicklike a motherfucker in that scene. Whatever.
You know what I'm saying, Like, you can always kind of pick
out one thing and stand up thescene that they make you laugh or they
don't. To me, comedy isone of the hardest performance art forms because

(42:52):
it's it's the one that everybody hasdone, even if it's on accident.
At some point in your life,you've been funny, You've said something and
people laugh, and now you thinkyou can do it professionally. So the
moment you see a joke on TVain't funny, I know funny. Do

(43:17):
you do you, nigga? Doyou really know? You may not like
that joke, but that doesn't meanyou know funny. That just means that
joke did not connect with you.So I think that's probably the biggest thing
is that I think comedy gets critiquedso fucking hard because everybody I know a

(43:37):
litt funny. I seem funny.I've done researcher like, I know what
like. It's not like, youknow, you can't dance. I know
I can't rap, so I cango, yeah, I didn't like that
rapper, but it's not to thepoint of, well, I should also
be a rapper. It never itnever gets to that point or and it's
like that though most people have fucked. I won't say everybody has fucked,

(44:02):
but most people have fucked. Andmost people will look at that porn and
think I could do that shit.That shit is easy. I have been
able to have sex before and movethe leg and do the thing. But
Yo, you get some people,Yo, can you do that shit in
front of all these lights? Canyou do that shit to all these people

(44:22):
at the exact time, not whenafter you went out for dinner? In
a movie and got to know somebodyhad a couple of drinks. Found out
y'all was feeling each other. Dad, No, you gotta be there at
nine. You have to fucking ninethirty. Can you do that? You
know what I'm saying. It don'tthat. You don't know that. You
probably don't even like that. Youhad the worst fucking day before you got

(44:45):
there, all these things lining up, But can you do that shit?
And then and then it's it's thesame kind of thing. Also, don't
bust too soon. No, nomatter how good she looked, how good
she do that shit, You cannotbust until they are like, we are
ready for the money shot, andthen you actually have to do that money
shot within the frame of time.Usually that they are asking you to do

(45:07):
that money shot. They like,we can't just wait around for you to
fuck all day and finish, youknow what I'm saying, Like we got
other scenes to shoot or got placesto go, and they're talking to you
about non sexy shit. Why areyou They're fucking you know what I'm saying,
in between setups, or you gotto hold a position that's uncomfortable for
you, or run down the list, or for the same thing, a

(45:28):
lot of women that are might Theymight be like, Yo, we need
you to fuck this guy that nobodyis attracted to, but he happens to
be your male talent for the day. Can you make it look like other
people should want to fuck him?You know? But everybody think they could
do that shit. But but Ifeel you, like I do think like
it's bit watching people who are reallygood at comedy. You'll be like,

(45:55):
how did you think of that shit? It's amazing? Like just like I
think like musicians who put a songtogether that is common, like a common
thing that we might all think of. Everybody think they can make. You
think you can make a party songs? You'd like to go to a party?
Now, fucking Corny that ship wedid, we did a rap I

(46:17):
think you'll want. Trump was stillhe wasn't even the nominee yet it was
still it was still Republican primary.And me and one of the writers had
an idea too, because Trump wasjust always bragging and talking shit and all
this stuff. And I was saying, man, my fuck could be bragging

(46:40):
like a rapper. And then welooked at some of the lines of some
of his quotes and I was like, let's shit rappers say. I got
a jet, I ain't got money. I was like, I bet you
if we could find enough Trump quotes, we can make a rap song comprised
of nothing but ship he's actually said. And so we spent a week just

(47:02):
going through transcripts of just anything hesaid anywhere on Earth, and we made
bars, made a hook. Wewent out, went out to Long Island
to this batman Bruce Wayne, lookingat ass mansion, and we shot a
hole. I shot a whole videosTrump rapping Trump quotes. Let me tell

(47:25):
you something, I've never been moreexhausted and oxygen deprived in my fucking life
then rapping a song while walking.I wasn't running. I'm just walking.
Like if you watch the Black Trunkstill on YouTube, you watch this black
Trump video, I'm like, there'sa setup where I'm just walking around a

(47:47):
golf cart while a camera goes theopposite way and constantly passes me. And
my only function in life for anhour and a half is to just fucking
walk and rap and believe. AndI'm trying to mind, but you can't.
You gotta actually say it. Yougotta say it. That shits fucking

(48:09):
unreal and this ain't even like someJanet job I've seen Janet Jackson live,
who I will argue, and I'veonly because I haven't seen Beyonce live.
But I watched Janet Jackson in Vegas. God damned two hours of fucking routines
nigga and singing. Didn't miss asyllable nigga, never panic like she finished

(48:32):
her song. None of that.Janet Jackson was my fucking ass. Can't
do two laps around a golf cartwhile a fucking steady cam. The level
of performance like that, that's thething that I really get obsessed with,

(48:52):
you know, because comedy is differentthan that, you know. It's also
one of the huge genres that iscreated in front of the consumer, and
the consumer criticizes it not realizing,not knowing where this joke is in its
particular life cycle. So that's alsopart of the problem now with phones at

(49:17):
the shows and stuff like that,is that people jump on something and comedians
need the leeway to be wrong acouple of shows so you can see where
the line is and then bring itback and then that's what you take can
present on television. That used tobe the timeline of a performance, but
now every single show your ships onthe line because you have to be,

(49:42):
which I think makes you're writing tighter, but it still doesn't always change the
risk. Like I wish that therewas more ways for communities, and you
know, they bag phones at certainshows and stuff, so you're able to
you're able to come up with theway to do stuff in a bubble where
people don't notice. But I justreally wish it there was a way to

(50:05):
like really rehearse sometimes because like I'llwalk down the street and the only thing
I rehearse is tempo of a jokeand inflection. But that's not until I
have the verbiage slot. Like ifI'm shooting an hour special, it may
take a year and a half totwo years to zero in on what the
sixty minutes is. But in thatlast six months, when I know what

(50:29):
the joke is, and I've saidit a bunch of different ways, and
I've listened to the audio and Iknow exactly, Okay, this sentence is
funnier after this sentence, But thisword is funnier than this word. You
go ontosars dot com, you findsynonyms. Is there a funnier word?
Is there a word funnier than thisword that I'm using to say this thing,
plug that word, commit that tomemory, and then play around with

(50:52):
it on stage a little bit.I saw I hosted Essence Festival one year,
and I wish that everybody, likejust the general public. I wish
it the general public could receive thegift of watching their favorite artists rehearse and

(51:15):
understanding what it takes to put whatyou see. I fucking watched Solange knows
for it was like two hours.It was a two hour rehearsal for what
was ultimately a twenty minute performance,just twenty minutes. There's a comedians twenty

(51:37):
minute minute. I'll go over myjokes in the green room. Solander's out
that bitch at ten in the morning. I need you to stand here,
move you move that way, okay, YouTube come up a little bit.
Now, we'll do the song.Do half reverse stop you when we get
to this part. We're here andthen you look back this way, and
you like precision. Fucking Mary J. Blige, same shit, y'all think

(52:01):
Mary J. Blinde should be upthere sucking around doing all them stuff.
Shit is fucking science, bro.That's why we That's why we love it.
In and you know it's a partof what's that Mary question? I'm
Mary, you just you just don'tlike shat day I liked. I just
don't like your crush on because thatwas real about it. Wait, but

(52:28):
before before we do that, Ido I do when we talk about this
um with what you were saying aboutlive, I think about the sex work
aspect of that with strippers, UMand dancers and also cam models because cam
models that I know some cam modelswho will be like, I just got
this new deal Joe, and I'mgonna try it live for y'all tonight.

(52:51):
Let's go, you know what I'msaying. So it's like that's one of
those I mean, if it don'tgo right, and people can be very
very judgmental and say wow, shit, not even can be they do be,
yeah they do the girls so likebut but I do, but just

(53:12):
saying like there are some of themwho will try out certain shit like in
that moment, like they are likeI am trying to do X, Y
and Z for the first time,because that's how you pull more clients.
Yeah. And here's the thing though, how you were talking about people actually
like you're basically rehearsing live at leastyou know that they paid already, Like

(53:34):
you know what I'm say, whatare you doing it for him? Like
you might not even try to doit though the first time. You might
have tried it alone. Like okay, Like it feels good. I hope
people like it, right, butyou don't know if they like it until
you see them tips coming through ornot. Yeah, Like I did all
of this and they trying to getyou to do more with it. They
was like, yeah, look greatand your pussy, but put it in
your ass and get the other onethat you used last week DP and yourself.

(53:59):
Yeah, and you're asking for themoney at the same time, Like
how you talking about walking around andwrapping so you gotta ride this dildo and
bag for money? Fuck? Thatis similar. I was talking with I
don't know if she's retired yet,so I don't know. I know she
was talking about getting out the game. But this girl, Hurricane Fury,
and she does this, she doessquirt videos, get them girl Fridays.

(54:20):
So she was telling me how whenshe had started and she said this on
my podcast because I know my mamawatching this right now. Yet A you're
talking to that young late no whereabout that mama, mind, you shouldn't
even be watching this ship. No, watch this is good. But Hurricane
was telling me that she had startedout just doing dildo play on herself on

(54:42):
camera and then on one random dayjust started score. Don't know where it
came from, don't know where ithappened, and then that became her thing
and that's how she built all ofher bread and transition over to twitch.
But like, you have to ideate, you have to create, because that's
what happens on stage. You justam just sucking around it. Oh shit,
a brilliant joke just came up mymouth. But don't let that body

(55:04):
change again, and it don't squirkin the morning, and so you know,
it's about figuring out ways to recreatethat and connect with the audience.
But yeah, that's I've met oddlyenough, Like I've gone to strip clubs,
but I like, as a stageperformer, when you see another stage

(55:27):
performer, you can just look inthe eyes and they get thinking about girl
tries and it's not yeah, likeyou can just to I don't know,
there's just been such a synergy withwith strippers that I've just never really gone
to, Like it's never been myfirst, it's a lot of food.

(55:47):
I go to strip lup for food, but like, there's a lot of
strip clubs I want. Yeah,I'm gonna get a leapts like nah,
if you ever seen me in thestrip club. I'm with a bunch of
other people who really want to bein a strip club. So we want
to date with somebody. I wantedto go to strictl We established that you
have watched some porn hearing that maybeoh no, I did. That was
research purposes and shit. But like, so is there any sex workers that

(56:12):
you have, like from any anywalk of sex sex work life that you
have like come in contact with oryou just like that's my ship. I
I don't know. I've met themall on such a human level that it
was never really like yeah, she'slike like I worked at the subway.

(56:35):
Shout out to Birmingham to the PickwickSubway. It's gone now, but so
Burmingham five points south at the timein the nineties, that was that was
the counterculture side of the town.So that was those rings, tattoo shops,
one the one or two gay barsthat might have been in the city
of Birmingham but weren't even openly gaybars. It was just bars where gay

(56:58):
people be hype era of society.So you know, if you work clothing
shift on a Friday night and fivepoints south, you saw every single type
of person that because it was thebar district, so you saw everything,
and you know, from from unhousedpeople all the way, sex workers,
like drunk businessmen, all of that. So you would meet women in like

(57:21):
over the course of a year.And I'm like sixteen, working this and
coming every Friday night around two thirtyand like knowing what I know now,
Oh shit, you was taking abreak. This is when you come take
a break and have your sandwich.You ain't talking about shit out there to
night. Oh yeah, it's agood night tonight. But it was just
always just conversation, like it wasnever oh that's what you do, like

(57:45):
you put two and two together aftera while, but it was just never,
I don't know, it was justnever a thing. And then I
remember when I was in I stayedin Elizabeth, New Jersey, dog at
the at the fucking night's end.Actually used to be a driver out there,
but that's another story. I wasin Elizabeth, New Jersey at the

(58:08):
night's End and I was coming todo showtime at the Apollo Comedy TKO and
I won't name another brother, butbut we decide to share a room.
Well, now, Henry Coleman,this is another funny comic out of LA

(58:29):
He's from Memphis. But so Henryand I, like, you share a
room and it's like thirty dollars anight. Just to get a perspective of
the type of situation, so we'renot we're not really we like, there's
no yelp in O two. Youknow, there was Travelocity, you know,

(58:53):
I don't even think Expedia was popping, like, but there was no
reviews. It was just a niggasa hotel and you stayed at thirty dollars
you want to stay. It waslike fucking bet me and Henry Coleman.
We get to the nineteen when wepull up and it's one of them use
shape joints, the motel with oneway in, one way out, and
just at the front it's just sexworkers and dope boys and they're just chilling,

(59:16):
like they're not fucking with nobody,but they're just chilling. And I'm
like, God damn, I can'tbelieve this. That's what I gotta fucking
do. So it's two nights beforewe're performing at the Apollo, and the
room is as tight as you wouldexpect a thirty dollars hotel to be,
So ain't no space for niggas amove. So I'm gonna go outside and

(59:38):
work on my jokes. And so, because when you're doing television, TV
is a little different from live.It's like what you're talking about with those
white porn productions, with this andthis and the you have two minutes and
thirty seconds and if you do twothirty one, we're fucking cutting your microphone

(59:59):
or we to edit your whole job. So you have to be precise down
to the fucking commas and the semicolonswith your jokes. So it is literally
an Easter speech basically. So I'mgonna go outside memorize my Easter speech.
And then that's what we were goingout into the clubs each night leading up
to the Apollo to work on ourset or whatever. And so I'd be

(01:00:23):
outside talking to myself and shit,and I'm watching I'm watching money move in
the parking lot. I ain't sayingshit to nobody. And on the night
we're supposed to go to the Apollo, one of the women came up to
me and she's like, you know, what the fuck you Nick is doing
it like shout the police, likestuttered, like, nah, why the

(01:00:46):
fuck would you thinking to Polly.You ain't about no dope, you ain't
about no pussy and you think it'sjust been been outside, all up in
our business. And I'm like,no, let me explain, So explain.
Hey, we can medians and youknow, and they're like oh,
And like a fucking switch, thislady just starts naming her favorite comedians and

(01:01:09):
who she liked and all of this. And we're like, I'm twenty one,
twenty two at the time, andjust giving us all of them fucking
you can do it, and godo it and the Apollo and and she's
rattling off names of motherfuckers she's seeingat the Apollo and how his historic the

(01:01:30):
Apollo is and just fucking hyped usup, just fucking me. Henry Coleman
hopping the car ride out to Harlem, we get booed, you booted mercilessly.
That's the game. But when wecome back to the fucking nights end

(01:01:53):
and as we pull back into thefucking parking lot, that fucking woman and
two and her friends are standing thereclapping for us, And that's the most
like at your lowest low to justhave a random person just hey, it's
all right. Like she looked throughthe cog like she see even crying the

(01:02:15):
whole rock. He was counting thatmoney, nigga. Fuck, we was
counting on it because like because Iwas like, I'm gonna do that,
like I had the whole ship inmy hand, like, nig I'm gonna
do the Apolo and then I'm gonnado Comic View, then I'm gonna do
Death Jam, then Ice Cube gonnaput me in a Friday movie. That

(01:02:38):
was my That was how I thoughtmy career was going to go at that
time. Was Apollo, BT,Deaf Jam, ice Cube. I got
booed. I was like, fuckum Comedy Shock All Star. When the
thing yet not not yet, notyet Shock All Star came like oh five
oh six somewhere in there. Soat that point, like like it was

(01:03:02):
just the warmest fucking just just apolite, just a kind motherfucker. Man.
I don't think that I think thatthere's definitely a stigma sex work because
of religion in this country. ButI also think that within that industry,

(01:03:22):
and you can correct me if I'mwrong, but I feel like a lot
of people who want to do it, this is what I want to do,
operate from a degree of secrecy forfear of shame, or they don't
talk about it, you know,because it seems like in y'all's industry there's
people that are loud and proud aboutit. Like if you look at only
fans right where, yes, Ihave an only fans, Please subscribe to

(01:03:46):
my only fans. I want youto know I have an only fans.
And then this thing is a onlyfans who don't show they you can't see
the head, you can't see nothing. They don't want you to know nothing
about them. I think it's moreof like fear of not you, but
other people shame, like other peopleshame that they look at sex work,

(01:04:09):
or like how we were talking aboutjust the safety, it's like if you
know, yeah, like if youknow my face, or like because other
people around me have shame around sex, it's going to have negative consequences towards
me. Now, that's not tosay some people do sex work for to
survive, you know, this isnot what they plan on doing. For
the long haul and they don't wantto like have this um this stigma attached

(01:04:31):
to them for the you know,forever. Also, it be people's fetishes
to like to engage with people thatyou can't see their face, or that
they only want to see your feetand things like that, or like maybe
you're just ugly and like you knowwhat your best parts are too. That's
like, I mean, that's thecool thing about the objectification in sex work
is that if something don't work uphere or focus on focus on what does

(01:04:56):
work. Yeah, just find yourone good body part somebody after that body
part, get on knees dot.There's something there is there is a body
part that somebody is obsessing over atall times. Under arms, what's what's
the What's an area of your bodythat you're just like like your fans love

(01:05:18):
that you could care less to show. It's hard for you, I know
at all. I have no Ihave no problem with it. I think
when I do find people who havefetishes for different body parts, then I'm
like, Okay, now how canI how can I highlight that ship?

(01:05:40):
Though? Because it's like if someone'sjust like like how you said, someone's
just like I need a knee capshot like a knee cap shot, and
how do you get the right angleso that the knee cap looks sex But
then you realize, like when itcomes to fetishes, people are so specifical
that they're fetish. They'll let youknow, like someone who's in defeat if
they're like, no, I wantto see the bottoms of your feet like

(01:06:01):
dirty, or somebody else would belike, I know, I need the
tops of your feet bright light rightafter you took your shoes off. You
know what I'm saying. Like they'resuper specific, like that part I like
about it. Yeah, what aboutum people, I've had someone with under
arm fetish and shaved or hairy,um so both. Some people that I've

(01:06:24):
had want to see my under armsbear someonet to smell, like they buy
my shirts. I slept them fora while and that's like it's I'll sell
it because I like to make themoney. But it does feel like like,
oh man, you want to smellthat. Yeah. I met a
penny seller. We had her onmy job podcast one time. Yeah.

(01:06:45):
Yeah, that's a whole other level. But the pennies like I could get
with, I guess because I couldattach the sexual part to it, but
it's just not my kink to beup under my arms and then some with
hair which I can never grow itout long enough to really make that kind
of mone to go like the seventiesWolfman during the pandemic, I got real
close keeping no extensions in the arms. I could under arm weave, I

(01:07:13):
could, but I I mean,but the shirt should I get? That's
no different than women wanting to weartheir boyfriend's hoodie and shit like that.
You just want the scent of theperson. But also, I mean for
people who like sweat, sometimes it'sit's the what were you doing that you
built up that sweat? Yeah?Or some people sweat a lot during sex,
so they like that kind of smella little ill just be like for

(01:07:36):
real, I mean, but okay, okay, yeah they like it.
Comedy ain't got nothing like that.That's not true. I think you can
sell you draws after show. No, I do you want to try it?
I tried to sell my sneakers asan NFT. The niggas was like
no because it was part probably sothis is before I knew it was a

(01:07:58):
whole body. Yeah yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay,
but no, I have a lotof sneakerhead I got a lot of
sneakerhead fans now, Like it's it'slike just built built up over time.
And I used to not really bein the kicks like that. I was

(01:08:19):
a Timberlands and I wear sneakers ifI'm balling, that's it. But now
that I've understood, like yo,I have certain fans that only want to
see me fucking Jordan's yeah, orcertain fans like like these, like I'm
there into into like these kind ofboots. Sent me a whole bunch of
these boots, like could you wearthese in your next scenes? Here's some

(01:08:41):
boots bread you know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, like,
and it got me even like nowall of a sudden, I'm like,
yeah, no, I prefer somelike Lebron fifteens, you know what
I mean. Like now I'm allof a sudden the sneak shit about it?
You know, so you could youcould do it? It's just you.
I feel like it's I've been checkinglike in your in you stand up
Joines, you be having some freshsome fresh fresh shit. So the sneaker

(01:09:03):
heads are out there now if theyknow, like, oh shit, I
could get them roy with juniors fromthe from this, from this joint.
You know what I'm saying. Yo, Yeah, they're definitely not the parodies
Lebron fifteen kid King Cloaks And youcan shoot me a d M if you
want to brand them home, shootme and I'll make the deal. Okay,

(01:09:26):
respectfully, hit you ass, andthen it's about to be Do y'all
get product placement. I don't imagineno real corporation wants to be anywhere in
this, but I mean we dofor scenes um, because there are certain
products that you know, people mightnot be like, yo, let me

(01:09:49):
try to get lube into this,you know what I'm saying. So they're
gonna hollow at us. So particulardeal though, Like I tell you what
was wild about your the Street.I didn't know and I can't even remember
when I found it out, butI was sitting that mouth open and it
was like, yeah, they dodick and coucie molds and you can just

(01:10:10):
take take take his dick home withyou. It's like like you I mean
you know, like when I foundthat out, I was like, oh
fuck, that's brilliant. That's fuckingbrilliant. I was like, oh yeah,
and then they make it with thesilicone and it feel real and nigga,
the skin tone of it. It'slike I was like, oh shit,
the porn industry ain't fucking around.Make sure that you go to jet

(01:10:34):
Setting Jasmine dot com or lustarts dotcom get the Kingdom Wall deal Doll,
the jet Setting Jasmine Garden, Yesand Penetrated. Um yeah, we got
when Christmas Gifts coming for you,so um yeah. But I mean when
you think about it, it's likethe clicks on porn and they're like astronomical
and people and you can't get advertisementlike advertisement placement on regular you know,

(01:10:59):
like you're in lower thirds and Googleads and you're not going to pick it
up. And then we can actuallylike show using it the actual product the
way that like Walgreens can't say,like you know, we have what do
they say, like personal Luber can't, right, but we could actually show
like personal Luober can't see it workspersonally yeah, certain sexy clothes, like
all kinds of products, even youknow when you're thinking about like we'll be

(01:11:23):
doing important in the kitchen, inthe bedroom, at the pool and all
these different places, and we wereable to show our sponsors, like millions
of people who you may not havelike their emails and that type of thing,
but we can show you their demographics, where they live, how long
they spend online, all of thatstuff. Yeah, but I guess a
lot of that for your industry,unfortunately, just boils down to corporations also

(01:11:45):
being bullied by people that are rootedin it. So all it comes back
to religion, it really does,And I think that's the part that's unfortunate.
I think with stand up you can, if you have a good enough
social media presence, you can getsome you can get some plugs, you
can make a little bit of money. But more often than not, they
tend to just pull you into somethingnational, you know, or just take

(01:12:11):
you from your world and add youto theirs, you know. Like I'd
say the best example as a recentum funny fucking brother named Drewski, and
so Drewski, like I won't eventry to explain what he does online.
You just gotta go see that ship. But then you'll turn on the television.

(01:12:31):
It isn't gonna being a national commercial. And I'm like, fucking good
for him, Like that's fucking dopebecause you're able to build your brand on
your own and then have national brandscome in and try to you know,
fucking be a part of your fuckingwave and that's all self made. Like
you know, I love watching youknow, these young ins, you know,

(01:12:56):
to a degree. You know,I was looking at Snapchat for a
while because what I what I findfascinating about your industry is that also your
industry usually dictates how tech moves.And if you can make people horny or
you can make them laugh, thenyou win. So anywhere people are being

(01:13:17):
made horny, figure out a wayto go there and be funny and you
win. I have been trying.I'll tell you something funny that I've done
from time to time while watching pornis played the game called guess the stand
up comedian that's playing in the background. Yo, you would be surprised how

(01:13:43):
many regular folks out there are justfucking with just Netflix specials on in the
like Little Real Yo. Almost almostI was gonna say that, yeah,
be good, be good for ourporty yoki. Oh yeah, oh yeah,

(01:14:04):
Yo. I had to stop myselffrom texting a Little Real one night.
This is Nia popped up in thebackground of the port. I was
like, hey man, they watching, I probably shouldn't send them that well,
I mean, yeah you should,oh well, but do I send

(01:14:25):
him Hey man, I was watchingthis porn? Yeah, and you came
up in the background. Not sureif you want to say hello to your
fans or that. Yeah you should, yes, just like that. And
you know, the cool thing isthat you could actually instead of setting in
the porn, you could just sendthis clip and then you know the yeah,
but it normalizes porn when we actuallytalk about watching it. It's to

(01:14:45):
the point now though, where nowlike I'm in the background, and like
if I see people watching, ifI see people fucking in this comedy on
the background, I want to messagehim. Have you seen my leader's special
imperfect message? It's perfect for socialit's social aware comedy. Do you want

(01:15:06):
to fuck while I talk about thenational anthem and police reform political point?
So you haven't. You haven't comeacross none, no pun come across any
of your own jones. No,because my ship was on the Comedy Central
app for years and nobody was goingfuck to the Comedy Central app. But
now not analogy, but now thatwe have paramount plus, even my shit

(01:15:30):
easier to find. You ain't gonnafind my ship in seventeen. It was
too hard to find. That's funny. I didn't know that. Yeah,
people be fucking with all types ofweird shit on in the background. We
aren't trying to get our ship shutdown, so we keep everybody's copyrighting material
out of our out of our porm. But if you want to, if
you want to throw a couple ofjokes, put something back around, we'll

(01:15:53):
put we can put this in thebackground of that ship. You know what,
do you know what I'm gonna doing. I'm gonna shooter. I'm gonna
shot a special. I would shootsome special, pooring footage, poor and
stand up special. I'm gonna justdo like an hour of just jokes and
then y'all said, just for y'allto head. You know what that Actually
one of the things that we wantedto ask you is like, since you're

(01:16:14):
known for your political your socio politicalcomedy, do people get put off or
do you feel like boxed into tothat? And like when you want to
do something like silly or expand yourrange, is it difficult a little bit
from a casting standpoint, like,for example, more often than not.

(01:16:41):
Most of the roles that I bookedfor sitcoms in the last couple of years
are all excuse me, sorry,most of the roles that I booked in
sitcoms. I'm wearing a suit asI wear a suit for the Daily Show,
and most of the casting people knowme from the Daily Show. So

(01:17:04):
this character has a suit, well, you know, let's get in the
suit, get him and I book. I book them. We were just
talking about a flatbush misdemeanors before wesat down. I was a principal,
he wore a suit. I wasconfessed fletch with John Hamm. I was
a detective or a suit. Iwas in Better Call Saul, and I
was a public defender. I worea suit. I was in Space Force

(01:17:25):
with Steve Carrell. Fucking suit.So it's like, and I'm not hate
no, hey, keep giving methe suit, Bundy. But it's important
that I started doing different stuff outsideof the Daily Show so people can see
me as something a little different.So if there's a type castishness, it's

(01:17:49):
that. But in terms of myactual stand up, people come and low
key they get disappointed that I'm notgoing harder. I had a lot of
going on in the world. Youknow, to me, a lot of
my stand up is just all theshit they're not gonna let me talk about
on the show, or I justdon't have the runway to really get into

(01:18:09):
the way I want to on theshow. But you know, my next
run of stand up specials for me, as it stands right now, it's
all gonna be about fatherhood. Idon't give a fuck about Like I did
three one hour specials talking about everythingthat's wrong in the world, and there
are plenty other comedians that are outthere doing that as well, and doing

(01:18:30):
it very well. So I'm gonnatake a detour and talk about me for
a minute. I'll get back toall the crisis of the world in a
minute, but I just want totalk about, you know, my relationship
with my son, my relationship withmy father, or rockiness of what it
was as it informs it to me. That's more interesting, that's more.
That's that's this, Yeah, youknow what I'm saying, Like to me,

(01:18:57):
that's more of that. How wasI raised and how is it informed?
How I'm going to raise my son? And starting from that question,
I think from that question alone,I got two hour specials in me,
probably a one person show. Soif that ain't what you want to see,
it's cool, you gotta come tosee me. I'm okay with that,

(01:19:20):
but I cannot be the guy,especially if I'm still at the Daily
Show. I do that at work, right. My day job is I
work a job. Even now withTrevor no A gone, I'm still at
a building where if I walk inthe room today and go, hey,
you know what, I want totake some cameras down to sell me Alabama

(01:19:43):
and talk about the sewage systems andhow fucked up the water is down in
the Black Belt of Alabama. Igot people who go, bet, here's
your camera, here's your plane ticket, go do that. So I don't
need to get on stage and talkabout Selva, rather talk about this.
So that's what I'm trying to getto now. Now I haven't been back

(01:20:05):
on stage and about a year yearand a half in terms of regular touring,
I just haven't. I just Itook time. What I can say
is now, I took time becauseI had, like, you have a
look at the nigga. No hemight quit looking at Trevor. Top of

(01:20:29):
twenty twenty two. I was like, hey, they got the twinkle.
I'm not for them. Yeah,I was like, you're thinking about groceries.
I'm finished sell some scripts, soI focused on writing television and movies.
Oh yeah, I saw. Iwas blessed enough to sell a couple
of TV shows and you know,some went somewhere, some didn't. But
writing television, I was like,I would rather creatively spend time doing that

(01:20:54):
right now and then come back aroundto stand up, because it's gonna take
some time for me to do themental the mental excavation that is required to
really delve into my relationship with myfather and then how to make it funny
and then put it on stage.Or at least this time you'll be able
to stay a better spot than theKnights. Then, Yeah, you know

(01:21:15):
I still drive by that thing.You know what's weird every blue moon,
and I don't do it often,but I don't know. Sometimes I feel
like I feel like where I amcreated a detachment from what got me to

(01:21:39):
this place, and so I try, you know, I try now and
then, and I'm not gonna sayI try to recreate every single traumatic thing
that happens on the road. Butlike I give you a perfect example,
like there were times where the night'send was a luxury. I was sleeping

(01:21:59):
at truck stops like I was sleepingat fucking truck stops on off nights because
and only Flying Jay's because Flying Jtruck stops the cash register is closest to
the curb, so the cashier cansee what the fuck is going on.
And it ain't one of them astruck stops where the cash registers in the
center of the store. I needyou to see me. I need you
see me. I see you.All right, I'm gonna go to sleep,

(01:22:20):
all right now, watch me.Like so, if I'm on the
road, and it's not often,but every now and then, I'll stop
at the Flying J and I'll justsit in the parking lot for two hours
and just do work on my laptopjust a little, just too. Don't
forget, nigga, keep hustling,keep climbing every time I'm back up here.

(01:22:44):
So I started sex work when Iwas eighteen years old. Okay,
I had nowhere to live. Iwas bouncing around. So that's how I
know the Knights. Then, becauseI'm from Jersey, I used to live
all up and down for a goodportion of time, staying on tun ofly
one to nine, so all themjoins, some of them jones ain't even
there no more. And when wetravel now for work, you know,

(01:23:12):
you know what I'm saying, Likeno, but it's it's it's like,
you know, especially when we're uphere, like I see places and I'll
even say to Jazzmin, I'll belike, yo, I used to stay
there, like that spot was wildback in the day, you know what
I'm saying, or whatever, Andnow it's like but being able to know
what got you to those spots,because some of those spots, those were
the first spots where I ever learnedhow to properly spank somebody or pull their

(01:23:39):
hair, pull wax on them orwhatever. You know what I'm saying.
Like I was, I was stayingin them shits and working out them shits,
you know what I'm saying. Soit's it's like when you when you
are able to have that full cyclemoment, there is definitely a part of
you that's like personally, I preferwhere I'm sleeping now, you know what
I'm saying, But like looking atthem joints, you'd be like yo,
like that it was that was anecessary place for me. To be to

(01:24:01):
even learn some of the things orhave the experience to allow me to appreciate
where I'm at right now. Andalso, like how you said about the
sisters that was clapping for you whenyou came back, you also always remember,
like, I'm not any better thananybody who's in that spot right now
trying to do they come up ormake they should happen. However they trying
to make it happen, because Ihad to do that same shit. I

(01:24:28):
like, it's it's like for whereI am now in my career, it's
it's Rocky three, where Rocky's gota little bit of bread. Then Clever
Lane beat the shit out that niggabecause Rocky was fucking around. And so
then Apollo Creed takes Rocky back tothe hood. You know, you gotta

(01:24:51):
train, You gotta get back tothe gutter. You gotta get back to
Rocky one, like you gotta getback to broke nigga fucking training. And
so to me, it's that's thedefault that I go towards right now is
Okay, how do you maintain thathunger and that thirst? And so for

(01:25:12):
me, so for me, thefirst step is finding a new target.
I've unpacked racism as best I can. I have gun control school, you
know, prison reform. Even whenI was talking about you know, my
next door neighbor that's going for lifefrom like even talking about that on stage,

(01:25:32):
that was low key the first tiptoeinto just personal Yeah, right,
Like that's what do you do whenyou know the murderer and the victim?
How do you? What do you? How do you? Who do you
feel sorry for? Like it's likeit's that without even getting into the whole

(01:25:58):
joke or whatever. But it's aguy I grew up with who's a getaway
driver and a robbery that turned intoa murder. He was never in the
store, he didn't even know thatthey murdered the dude to the fits came
to get him. So mourning twolives lost in the dichotomy of that and
figuring out a way to make itmoderately funny. But that was exciting.

(01:26:21):
That part of my last special wasexciting because I was like, oh shit,
this is me, but it connectsto the world. Well, what
else about me connects to the world. But I have a question for you,
a fatherhood question, and kind ofkeeping on a theme of the show,
what is something that you are goingto teach your son about sex relationships

(01:26:46):
that you wish your father had taughtyou. Be honest, don't lie to
women, man ain't nothing a lie. I try to teach them that in
general, but it's especially you know, don't lie, don't lie first and
foremost, and I think maintaining youknow, a degree of respect for women,

(01:27:15):
you know, just on some don'traise your voice, like don't yeah,
like we try to do that,Like so much of it is just
general base level respect behavior in general. That also it's transferable skills, you
know, over to relationships. Butyou know, that's that's really all I've
thought about up until this point.I'll tell you something that I've gone back
and forth about with my son andhe sicks just for perspective, is just

(01:27:43):
with regards to chivalry, because thereseems to be two different schools of thought
on that type of thing. ButI do think that above all, something
as simple as asking someone is thereanything I can do for you? That
if you start there with most peopleand you ask that question consistently, soon

(01:28:09):
let they're gonna tell you the truth. So that's the thing that I am
trying to make sure that I demonstrate, you know, and it's it's a
little more it's a little more differentthan difficult now because you know, I'm
in a situation that where we're coparenting. So it's not like before where
I had around the clock to showhey man watch me and watching talk watch

(01:28:31):
I interact with it. So nowwhen I'm in that space and it's the
three of us, I have tobe more deliberate because he's watching it.
Also, he's older now, sohe's absorbing. So you know, and
when the time comes and you seeme with somebody new, here's how it's
going to work. Because I definitelynever got that from my pops. I

(01:28:54):
definitely never like I knew all mydaddy's side chicks, Like I don't think
no child should know, you know. And I'm not I'm not slaying of
my pops. But you're asking thequestion, you know, just in terms
of understanding when you get older.When he gets older and he unpacks everything

(01:29:16):
he saw me doing, he'll seethe examples, he'll see the bread crumbs.
So you know, I above alljust ask people if they need some
communicate talk to people, you know, like be he did something I wasn't
there when it happened. But somebodytold me a story about him just being

(01:29:39):
very kind to another child and likea birthday party, and and just hearing
that made me just feel so fuckinggood. Yeah, yeah, told you
it's not what they'd be doing inthe house is how they behave. So
in the spirit of time and allthis fatherhood talked, let's talk about our
mothers that when we like, wecannot leave this building without getting their questions,

(01:30:03):
have questions. So yeah, youknow we have um legacy in the
spirit of legacy. Yes, inthe spirit of legacy, breaking generational trauma,
bringing our parents into the things thatwe do and respecting you know,
their their perspectives. Um, weasked, we asked our mothers, um

(01:30:23):
that we're going to be talking toyou and they watch you on the Daily
Show? Okay, you know,did they have anything that they wanted to
ask? And so my mom mymom was like, I asked that young
gentleman. My mom was like,is he taken over for Trevor? Noah?
That was that was one And Iwas like, well, no,

(01:30:44):
not that kind of question. Mom. Well let's let's well the short answer
to that is no, they're doinga series of guest hosts over the course
of the next couple of months,and then on the other end of the
network will decide who the host willbe. I'm supposed to get a week
of one of those weeks. Well, her asking I was really her saying
that's what she wants. Well,thank you, thank you, email Paramountain

(01:31:05):
and that her second question was hersecond question was where can we go over
there no racist people to deal with? And she said, is that safe
to ask? So in your travels, I have to interpret, you know
from my mom, in your travelsto the place that you felt really comfortable
as a black man, you justgotta called chocolate cities chocolate cities. I

(01:31:28):
mean, there's gonna be racisms everywherefor a stop, and even when you
get into non racist even once youget into non white places, then you're
into colorism. So there's still somedegrees of that. But you know,
I feel comfortable. I feel mostcomfortable in the South, in black,
black ass cities. I ain't neverhad a bad day in New Orleans.

(01:31:50):
I ain't never had a bad dayin Birmingham, Atlanta, Memphis. I
ain't gonna say that you can justgo around because you know, I STI
might try to rob your ass onone of these spot. But but don't
tun crime and racism make the samething, right, right, They like
to make you believe it is,but ding ding ding. Uh Yeah,

(01:32:12):
I'd say those are probably the bigones. Charlotte, DC. Um always
have a good time in DC.And you know what, low key o'key
Houston. I enjoy Houston. Idon't. I don't. I don't get
there often. I don't get thereoften, but when I do, it's

(01:32:33):
always a good time. And it'slike dope ass black folks like dope black
professionals. Because I think what Itake that question as is, are there
places black people can go where theycan feel like they're in a bubble of
of their own of their own people, you know, Like That's what I

(01:32:56):
take that question as. And sothose cities are where I definitely feel like,
oh, if you didn't show meanother side of the town, I
think the whole city was like this. Okay, so Mom, pick one
of them cities that you're willing tomove to and take care of these kids.
But I do I remember the questionmy mother wanted to know how comedy

(01:33:16):
has changed from when you first startedto now like you can take you can
take you the question wherever you wantto go with it. Let's go to
the deep man of the pool.And I mean it's definitely it's definitely more
opinionated. There's more there's more comedianswith opinions now than they where in ninety
eight when I started. I sayopinions, I'm talking about the world and

(01:33:40):
issues and all that stuff. Ithink that society has decided to some degree
that certain opinions they don't want tohear no more, and so now they're
being more vocal about it. I'dsay that comedy, but I would argue
though that comedy has never changed.The audience has changed, The taste of

(01:34:00):
the audience changed, the appeal ofwhat the audience wants to hear has changed,
and so they speak out on certainstuff that they don't want to hear.
But it hasn't stopped comedians from doingwhat they want to do, seeing
what they want to say. SoI'd say that, Oh yeah. I
always say, like people complain alot about like cancel culture now with comedy,

(01:34:25):
do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah? But I don't.
But who's getting canceled? That's whyI'm trying to figure that out. Chappelle
hosted SNL after pissing off the LGBTQplus community, and then went on stage
in front of eighteen thousand people andbrought Elon Musk out that bitch, like,
there's no who's getting canceled, LikeI feel like people complain. The

(01:34:46):
people who complain about cancel culture andquote unquote like woke isms not even people
need to look up where woke theword woke actually comes from and what it
means. But like the people whoare doing that as more, Like I
can't talk about these people how Iwant to talk about them anymore. Yeah,
but I think they'll wind up doingit. Yeah, but they still

(01:35:08):
do it. But like they are. You have comedians who are pissed that
they can't do what they want todo without criticism. Take the criticism and
keep doing the joke. Bro,the people like you are gonna come you
see you anyway. Now, You'reprobably not gonna get You're not gonna get
an opportunity to do every TV showyou want to do, all right,
but that's the game, man,So either you commit it to this shit

(01:35:29):
or you're not. And then onthe audience side, you can say whatever
you want. But at the endof the day, most of these companies
only care about profits. So ifyou're a comedian that's saying something divisive,
you're probably gonna bring eyeballs, whichbrings profit. You can't expect morality from
a corporation. But I just Ijust think that artists have to figure out
if you're just gonna do what youwant to do, then do what you

(01:35:53):
want to do. People are moreopinionated, and there are now people who
don't want to hear that shit.Comedians ain't change comedy and change. It's
not gonna change. But the peoplewho don't want to hear that, we're
going to say something, and eventuallyyou're going to run into a couple of
corporations who are going to decide notto work with you because it's it's more
trouble than it's worth. That's theconsequence of speaking free mind to me until

(01:36:17):
you're going to jail. I don'tknow if it's canceled, if it's just
opinions and just people just don't wantto hear that opinion. Yeah, I
mean, what was it in thesixties they would take certain comics to jail
because come on to jail, LennyBruce, come on to jail, George
Carlin, come on to jail,Dick Gregory. You know, people are

(01:36:39):
still free to say what they wantto say, whether people. You're free
to say what you want to say. You're free to go into buildings and
make money doing it. And thereare a couple of buildings that may not
want you in there, and peopleare going to protest against you. Now,
I don't think that's that's the partof the game. I don't buy
into. I don't buy into complainingbecause somebody don't like what you say.

(01:37:00):
What the fuck is a boo?Yeah, you go up on stage some
night and get booed? Nigga?Is that cancel culture? So a tweet
ain't nothing, but it's digital booLike Yeah, I mean really, And

(01:37:20):
so I just don't see I don'tsee the big conflict. But then I'm
also a comedian that's not doing abunch of shit that's pissing off a bunch
of people. But I might oneday. I just don't think that comedy
has changed as much as the audienceis wanting something better or something different or

(01:37:45):
something that appeals to what they want, has changed, because keep in mind,
they go oh, it wasn't likethat back in the day. Also,
back in the day, my fuckersdidn't have all these avenues to boo
you digitally, right, And nowpeople have more avenues to see the comedians
the content that they want to say. Yeah, specificity is the new broad
So now, if you want acomedian that speaks exactly to your community,
I guarantee you is out there.And if he ain't on a channel,

(01:38:08):
he's on YouTube because they all gotthese young hes got cameras. Now they
upload their shit. They're doing betternumbers on YouTube than they would have done
on linear. So I don't Idon't know, Like if you hated the
motherfuck back in the day, youhad to write a letter to the newspaper.
Anybody doing that shit, ye,write no letter to the editor.

(01:38:30):
You'll see your tweet and keep itmoving. To our point, Comedy and
sex work to have a lot ofparallels. There's a whole lot of them.
Yeah, So thank you so muchfor coming and exploring those. I
appreciate y'all. I do, Ireally do. I appreciate the level of

(01:38:53):
I appreciate the take comedy seriously asan art form and not just somebody on
stage, fucking around and acting asif they're just talking out the side of
nay mouth. And this is awhole funny stuff I just said for the
first time. No, it wascrafted, it was it was manicured.
Yes, it's thoughful, and Imean we take comedy. It's like it's

(01:39:15):
also informative and digestible, very veryserious topics. We were talking about our
styles that we like and um,and it's just the way I mean just
thinking about the work that you do. The fact that we can have our
moms weigh in on it and ourteam are our young adults weigh in on
like what can we That's that's reallya Yeah, it's a gift in a
craft that your your talent is somethingthat we can share across generations and talk

(01:39:40):
about hard topics. So we appreciateyou. Well, thank you. I
grew I grew up in a housewhere my grandmother had Red Fox records,
you know what I'm saying, andwould have parties to play Red Fox and
Mom's made yeah and shit like that. So comedy if that's why when my
mother found out, she was likeher, you're gonna tell her question though,

(01:40:00):
I mean, tell him the nationalquestions she had. Is that co
ruin it only if you're gonna answer, yeah, answer, oh boxers,
Um, but the the ones thatyeah, yeah, yeah, actually were
why then things cut up? Butlike yeah, but just the joints that

(01:40:21):
come down to here. But theyyou know, SPENDEXI or whatever. I'm
not doing a regular boxer just likeregularly. No, you're not that kind
of guy. You're not staying atthe nights in no more exactly, I
ain't got money now I'll sleep atthe Flying Jake. There you go,
There you go, Mama, ladyNatitude listen, thank you for that.

(01:40:44):
Yeah all right, So the musicyou had that discussion about shot day and
Mary jay Man, that's for thenext That's for the next episode. But
really, just um, what's nextfor you? Where can people find you?
And and all that port Man DailyShow is still churning out new episodes.
People have a gang a guest hosts, you know, DL Hughley gonna

(01:41:05):
be in a mixed Marling, Wayne's, Leslie Jones, Chelsea Handler, like
just every every person that wanted theSykes, like folks that you know for
their political opinions and every other platform, and they're all over the world.
I'm bringing them put them in achair for a week MSNBC show. Yeah,

(01:41:26):
Dale's done all of it. Thisain't gonna be new to DL like
this is his wheelhouse. So we'llbe doing that on a regular basis.
And then at some point, Ithink April and May, I'll probably start
getting back out on the road.But you know, it's just Royalwoodjunior dot
com or put it at sign infront of it for social word and I'm
father to father. I'm definitely lookingforward to hearing what you what you got.

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