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So Jasmine and I life partners,business partners and all things. I wanted
to do a interview where we intervieweach other because we have a podcast and
we're going to interview people on thispodcast. So relax, people, We
will talk to other people have to. It's not a requirement. No,
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no, but no, but butwe do have plans to do so.
But we got so many new peoplefucking with us now that I felt like
it was like an important thing forus to kind of reintroduce ourselves. But
you can already get the introduction ina lot of other places. So I
wanted to I wanted to go deeper. I wanted to get to that back
wall, this back wall conversation Ido. I'll be digging so I know
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you do. But now I wanteverybody to know you. Your questions,
your questions for me were really fuckinggood, and somebody out there does need
to have you as that that interviewerfor sure. But it was fun though
it was I mean, you weresuper prepared, prepared enough to have something
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for me to write my questions onout you did. You looked out But
um, I guess first and foremostthe name Jet sending Jasmine to me throughout
the years and it's grown. There'sother people using the monica with their own
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whatever. But I've known you rockingthis name for a long time. So
for those who don't know, andwe're gonna go deeper, but how did
you? First question, just towarm up, how did you get the
name? Jet setting? Jasmine?My middle name is Jasmine, super creative.
It started with being on that firstpodcast, The Emotion Picture with my
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brother Victorious and shot Stimuli and whoeverthe woman that was supposed to them.
We like the other co host whowas supposed to be another woman, I
don't know what her name was,but like she couldn't do it or she
was a no show or something,so like the good little Sister, I
was like, pick me, I'lldo it. And so I wasn't even
supposed to be a part of thatshit, and and then it morphed into
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like, you know, like theycouldn't do it without me, and so
Victorious is like, what do youwant to be called? And I was
like, I don't know, likeI wanted to use a name that I'm
going to answer because if I pickedlike a club name or something, they
might be talking to me and I'lljust be zoned out. So I was
like, oh, this is justmy mental name. And then I was
working for the government at the time, and I was traveling from medical center
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a medical center, so every Wednesdaywe recorded live and I would be in
a different city and he like,where are you calling him from? That
being a different city, and hewas just like jet setting Jasmine. I
was like, oh, I likethat shit, you know, And and
then I just decided to keep it, because then it sort of became like
a self fulfilling prophecy, like ifI called myself that, then you got
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to live up to it. Sohere we are. And now that you
have lived up to it, howdoes jet setting Jasmine as an idea?
How has it grown? Because nowis it? You have it also has
a name as a company. Yeah, So there's the woman, yeah,
and then there's this idea. Whatis now ten years later? What is
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the idea and the philosophy of jetsetting Jasmine? Well, you know,
I think a lot of companies havelike their vision and their mission, and
I feel I can't spit one outfor you right now. I know I
can't go through like all of myjourneys and no paths and spreadsheets and you
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know, and sort of like thisis what I want the mission and the
vision to be this year, andand sort of like kind of combining it
with like the name is that it'sit's got to be elevated. Right,
if you're jet setting, you areelevated. And honestly, like everything that
you and I have done with okay, so jet setting jazzone. When we
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open body Altitudes, its altitudes aboutthe height, about elevating your body.
Right when we did our first radioshow, it was my High Club.
It was about being freaky in thesky. Right. When you think about
royal fetish films, it's royals likeelevating the status of fetish and film.
So everything that has to do withme has to be elevated. And like
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when I think about the company,it's like, okay, this is our
mission is helping people explore. Sotraveling through I mean I kind of think
like I traveled through people's trauma.I traveled through people's you know. Even
even my therapy company is Blue Pearl, and it's a different you have to
dig deep and to get the pearlright, so um, within the depths
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of the ocean. So there's evenlike that range of traveling and helping people
explore from trauma to their highest levelof themselves. So I think about it
from that perspective and um and justlike levels and and like where's the next
place we're gonna go? And it'slike where's the next place in business?
Where's the next place as a familyand not necessarily physical location. So I
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think about when when I first gotinto porn, they were like, if
you need a porn name, youuse your middle name and the streets you
grew up on. What would havebeen, uh, if it was Hassan
Bogert has well board Hassan Bogart,that would be kind of mine would be
Jasmine Beach so brand it's clothing thatone of the um what's the show with
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uh? Pamela Anderson? When thatwhen when of their names Beach? I
don't know, I don't know.You cut that out? Aren't just tell
hard to cut out? Matchhit Justso this is the greatest episode ever,
But it is because we talked aboutJasmine. That is ship. So speaking
of you, you you actually mentionedit, um, you know you were
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you were working for the government andit was a vanilla job. And how
when when you no longer had thatjob. How far was porn from your
idea of where you were going toland? Wow, A couple of things.
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It's funny, like as you said, like a vanilla job. Like
the first thing, like like littlehair stood up because I'm like, for
for a vanilla job that she wasstill grimy as fuck, you know it
was. It was for the government, So you know that's vanilla in a
different way, I know. Butum, but the way that people sort
of think about these like straight andnarrow professions that you you know, you
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end up seeing how like unethical,um things really can be and how how
corrupt shit you know is in theserespectable positions and places and spaces. But
when I was, um, whenI was working on the job, I
was doing porn already. I alreadyhad like we already had films out for
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a couple of years. Um.But there was no reason to go on
the break room and be like,oh, you know, like I'm gonna
just like upload. Yeah there wasthere was no Yeah, I could actually
smell the break room right, um. And there also was no reason for
in my porn career to be like, you know, like hold the loobe,
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let me return this email. Sothere, you know, I had
like to two different lanes. Someonethought that it would be a great idea
to merge those two for me bysharing with my employers and the congressmen of
in Florida and the governor of Floridaand the secretary of that department my Twitter,
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my Instagram and docs me in thatway. And you know, luckily
for me, I had already envisioned, like what we were doing with jet
Setting Jasmine, with royal fetish films, um with our our health our healthcare
brand or our health and wellness brandat the time, like these will always
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be. They were already solidified aslike these will always be somewhere, especially
with porn, because once you doit, yeah, like you're you're cursed
by it and you're coined by itforever. If if you're lucky, it'll
it'll still make money when you're sleepingyour old god willing watch those films.
So I guess how far did Ithink that it would go. I wanted
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it to go far enough that Icould I could leave that job on my
terms. You know that was probablylike when I decided to, you know,
let me let it go. Thisis not where, this is not
the hill I want to die on. I don't want to I don't want
to fight these people for respect thatyou know whatever. I had already kind
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of decided that, like I justwanted to buy more time. I was
like, I need a couple moreyears of benefits. I need a couple
more of these nice padded paychecks sothat way we could get like more equipment
or that type of ship. Soit kind of sped up the process.
But like I told you when wegot together, I was like, I
want to be retired from this vanillajob by the time I'm forty, and
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that should help me do it likethree years Earli. So goal, there
you go, Doxy, I'll deal. And I also think I think about
the same thing in regards of rabbits, like I'm out I stayed in port
at least you know who's fucking hold. There you go. You know a
lot of I think. And thisleads into our next question, what from
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that world do you wish was inthe porn industry? And what from the
porn industry do you wish was inthe in that world? Wow, that's
such a great question because I usedboth skill sets since I since I had
the opportunity to do both jobs atthe same time. There would be times
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where I'm just like, in healthcare, I wish that there were open conversations.
I wish that there were um,there was a focus on sexual wellness
and UM, and there was afocus on true quality of life. So
working for the American healthcare system,there's a focus on illness and conditions and
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and there's a lot of things thatinfluence the healthcare system to be really very
focused on people not being well.And I think in the sex industry we
think about like fantasies and desires andexploration and expression and release and like orgasms
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and UM, connecting with people andhaving wild experiences like that to me is
health focused that you know, UMand so. But sadly, I see
people in the porn industry that havethis open, open, open mindset,
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this desire to be free, butthen they have poor healthcare, access to
healthcare and resources and tools. Right, so it's like this one building that
has all the tools that they don'tknow how to use to you know,
to free people to be well.And then you have these people who really
want to be well and have themindset to do it, but don't have
access to tools. It's very frustratingnow from the things that I wish the
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porn industry had that the UM thesecular industry about the vanilla job had fucking
HR centralized payroll benefits U some ofmy medical centers had. UM. They
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at least acknowledged things like childcare,older adult care, like the fact that
the employee could not exist unless theemployee's entire um like family was cared for.
Like you could get more out ofthem, ye if you made sure
that they had some type of likesubsidy for taking care of their older older
adult parent and their their child.UM. You know, granted, I
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definitely understand entertainments. Entertainment, wedon't need it UM in the same way
we need healthcare, but just sortof like more thought more thoughtful policy policies
and benefits to keep the talent wellso that they could do their job well.
UM. The vanilla industry had aretirement plan. There was a plan
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for succession, like you knew ifyou came in at this level sort of
where you could go and develop andcreate a career. And I think that
in the porn industry it's really hardto see how you might enter in as
a cam model and leave out owningthat that that company. Yeah, I
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think that's a really good point becausealso they speak so much about how they're
a high burnout. Yeah, inour industry, if there was something that
made it so that people felt moresecure in it or knew that there were
benefits at the end, people woulddefinitely stay longer. It's like a lot
of people they don't. Just it'snot always the big SOB story why somebody
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left or the terrible experience. Sometimesit's just like I need more security in
my life. Absolutely. There's theother things, like strategic planning is something
that we did often with like budgetsand you know, the issues that I
would say in the vanilla world isthat those plans to me, weren't they
weren't really people focused. They werevery organizational focused, like you know,
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how can we get more with lesstype of thing. But then in the
porn industry it can feel very muchlike for me, like the wild Wild
West, like there is no sortof like strategic focus to produce healthier,
better content or whatever, or likeyou know, we have like knowing we
have an impact on the world,what would we like to do with that
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influence? You know. So yeah, for sure, what do you think
that you bring to the industry thatis unique? I just just said it.
Not even just not even just inthe in the let's let's not even
let's go away from just the industryaspect as a performer. Okay, not
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just because we already know in thebusiness mind, what about as a performer?
Um hm, this is something thatI'm um, like, I'm I
won't be humble here, like thisis our house, so I think like
I'm really really really fucking good withlike but with like my my dialogue in
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in the scenes. Sometimes like Iwatch it back and I'm like, oh,
my gosh, I'm so funny orI'm so mean, or like,
oh that was so good, likeoh, you know, um, when
when I actually take the opportunity toto watch our films back, I usually
need a little bit of space fromthem. But when when I do watch,
I'm like, oh, like,yeah, nobody would have thought to
say that, or like actually learningsomething about the person I'm performing with too
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slightly, I don't want to saythis, and because I don't want it
to sound also you might not wantto give away that trade secret that part
well, well, okay, soit's like taking something that I've picked up,
like maybe while we're getting dressed,or while we had our pre production
meeting, or while we were havingcoffee while waiting to get ready or something
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like that, like you know,being very observant and bringing that into the
piece. So that way it pullswho they really are out and it usually
takes them slightly off kilter, likelike oh shit, Like that's I don't
let the person escape too far fromwho they are, and I think then
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we get to see something different aboutthat performer, because I do think that.
I mean, it's part of thework is that you go off into
fantasy place, you get into yourcharacter, um and and that's great,
but when you're working with me,I do want to bring your authenticity.
Um So, I think that issomething that I bring as a performer.
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A lot of people that I haveshot with, they may say, like,
nobody's ever um got me to dothat on camera? Insight, I'm
not getting you to do anything youallowed yourself because you either felt comfortable or
you will reminded who the hell youwere in my presence, and that's important
to me. Reminded of who thehell you were. Okay, in her
presence. Yeah, as hard asfar as as a person who edits a
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lot of every times I'll just becan out laughing. Yeah, you're very
very quick witted and a lot oftimes, and especially like fem dome scenes,
people are playing a character more thanthey are even in the moment,
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and you are so in the momentand it's who you are, even if
it's like a part of you,it is you. So it'd be like
she say shit like that when weoutside. So it's not it's not like
wild left field to me, butit is so sharp and so so like,
uh like some of us should justbe hilarious to me, and I
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definitely appreciate it. I would say, also, when you are learning somebody,
and this this is on or offcamera, but this is in the
in the bds EL bdsmro, whenyou are learning somebody, what helps you
decide this is the part of themthat I want to draw out in specifically
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in the BDSM space, because it'srare that I'm trying to humiliate someone.
There may be embarrassing moments, theremay be some vulnerable moments, or if
they like to be humiliated, thenthat's a whole other a whole other thing.
But I like to look for whatpeople may think of is like a
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weakness or a a deficit or somethingthat they are like maybe feel a little
vulnerable or insecure about. But I'monly going to pull that out if I
know that we can then turn itinto a strength by the end of the
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time that we're seeing. Yeah,because i want people to feel empowered when
they've worked with me, like froma like an onset scene type of thing,
and also like from a BDSM sexyou know, sex sex situation.
Like I want them to feel likelike, yeah, like I did that,
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even if it's like I got slappedin the face and like pee it
on, Like yeah, but Idid that shit and I did it well,
and she's very proud of me,and I'm proud of myself. Because
that makes you want to go backto Everybody wants to go back to a
place where they felt good, confidentand proud of themselves, and so like,
I like to keep coming back.And then I'm also thinking about the
viewer. The viewer can usually connectwith whoever the other. You know,
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one of us, you're connecting withone of us so or both of us,
And if you're connecting with me.I want if you're gonna like model
this or emulate it, I wantyou to be able to like look for
those things like how can you helpsomebody improve in this sexy situation? And
if you resonate with like let's saythe submissive or the person I'm seeing with,
I want you to be like,oh, that's how you could turn
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that thing around, or like Icould be like that person and turn that
thing around. And it could bethe smallest thing, like somebody with a
you know, a little tick orsomething that you know, maybe they're like
nervous, so they're picking. IfI could pick up on that little thing
and I know for sure I commodify that behavior by the end, then
that's a win. She's always watchingalways. What was the pivot like to
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becoming a sex worker and an entrepreneurfrom that vanilla space, because you know,
a lot of times people don't knowthat when you are in business for
yourself, it ain't nine to five, it's twenty four to seven. Yeah,
not to say that you didn't becauseyou had already started with the fantasy
flight parties and things like that,but when now you're doing this full time,
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what was that pivot, like,well, I had a good model.
You know, you had not workedfor anyone most of your adult life,
and although I mean you, youwere doing sex work and other works,
but ultimately it was art. Itwas just like, there's a couple
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things that I paid attention to fromlooking at at your model was that you
were selling something that people did nothave to have, but you made them
want it, and you packaged itin enough different angles that you package it
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in enough different angles, from likeshirts to CDs to streaming two shows for
the music and then like shoots,the parties, you know, all the
sex work aspects. You package itin enough ways that if you ain't want
it this way, you'll take itthis way. If you don't want it
that way, you'll get it thatway. I watched how you you know,
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you acquired a lot of things beforewe met, but as I learned
more about you, I was like, okay, so you put that aside
long enough until you get that thattakes care of that. Okay, cool,
I understand that. Watch even howyou did healthcare with no or limited
insurance because of being a freelancer,and like that for me is like those
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are my golden handcuffs. Like togo from you know, being growing up
it growing up poor and on Medicaidto at different points in time in my
life not having no health insurance.You get a good job that ensures you
full comprehensive health insurance with the dentalcares, like bitch, where are you
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going? You're gonna do what theytell you to do from nine to five.
But then like going like all right, between the both of us,
I have a hundred percent health healthcare, but somehow you freak go into the
doctor for any whatever you need andlike, Okay, there's a way to
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do this. And so that wasa huge part of me not caving and
going back to another type of steady, like steady type of job. It
was like it can be done.He's literally he's literally doing it, and
he has some of the things thateither you want or like you want to
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keep, so to say. Sothat was a huge part of my pivot.
The other part was talking with bothyou and the older kids at the
time. So I'm not going backto that job, y'all, So we
gonna have to maybe do some thingsthat do some things different, you know,
And the kids were like okay,like what's got to give, you
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know, and we didn't. Itdidn't feel it. I don't know.
Maybe it felt strenuous to you.No, Okay, like it didn't feel
so bad because I feel like onceI just relinquished that I was going to
work for myself. Then I rememberhaving a little whiteboard in in my office
and I was just like, okay, I have to see six therapy clients,
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three fetish training clients, sell sevenshirts, and did the like very
detailed out to equal I think Istarted out with fifty percent of my salary.
Okay, then I need to dothis to get seventy five percent of
my salary. And I was hittingthose numbers fast. I was like,
oh shit, like this is it'sdoable, it's sustainable. I'm not killing
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myself. The kids are fine.You were happy. Like we were able
to travel more, We were ableto do some of the ideas and like
actually actualize them. So it wasit was slow unsetting. People always um
they'll say like I want to leavemy vanilla job, like I want to
do what you did, and I'mlike, I did it and it sounds
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like a real awesome fucking story.But it was strategic, and you know,
I was I was very thoughtful indoing it. It wasn't like I
quit my job. You know,on Wednesday and Thursday we were making you
know, everything was straight. Tellme your favorite three fantasy flight parties that
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we've ever done. You don't haveto go into any detail, but if
you want to give one tidbit ofto why it was the favorite while you
think about it. For those ofyou who don't know, Jasmine and I
traveled the world doing fantasy flight partiesfor singles, couples. You know,
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it would be a birthday party,it could be bachelorette, could be a
divorce party. And Jasmine taught pole, I did erotic touch massages sometimes I
did climax shows and we can doa whole other show about that. But
he answered all kinds of sexy questionsand had games like that. Ship was
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wild lived. It was okay whoI used to be pissed at the end
of all of them. That's why, though, when I'm gonna tell you
why, Because I would be outthere refereeing twenty drunk women that were totally
sexually charged, while you would becalming one down one at a time.
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Nah, and then and then itwould be like you know we would like
counting our money up. But thenmy favorite parts when we were going to
eat at the end. Three favorites, Okay, you would eat at the
end except for this one. Butthis is why it's my favorite. It
was one of our early ones inNew York. In Queens. It was
from my cousin's friend. My cousin'sfriend who stiffed me of ninety nine dollars
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for a sex wing that I neverfucking bought up until this moment wing stopped
swinging. Oh that shit broke yourdoor anyways, um uh so see drunk
woman at the end, right.Okay, So at that party, you
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came, you did the erotic touchmassages in the back, you answered questions,
and you left. And I waslike, this motherfucker is gonna leave
me here. You ain't saying likeyou want to go get something to eat,
You're trying to chill. You stayhere tonight. You left no options.
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There was no doorway for me tolike. I was like, and
I was the reason why I askedmy favorites because a couple of things happened
internally. I was like, youjust don't are you gonna say what you
want? I was having this internalbattle and like find out. I was
like, can I have a kissbefore you leave? At least? And
you were like, oh yeah,you know, and like you gave me
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a kiss, right, and youstill left, right, But I did
not say like hey, like I'mtrying to I'm trying to say here just
because it's my cousin's ship. Like, and two, I realized I liked
you at that party. I wasjust like, yeah, you're really pressed
about this shit. You couldn't openup your mouth to say anything. You
really did. Why are you who? You're in New York. You can
go and like link up with anybody, but you want to go home with
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this guy? I really did.And that's like when I found out for
myself. So that's one. Twois when we did puff Pumps and Cuffs
in Saint Pete, Florida. Thatwas really really really early on in the
in the thing of things, andit was fun because it was just like
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it was super black, it waslocal. My nephew was down doing tattoos.
God bless anybody who let him writeall over their body that night.
One of my nieces was there doingbody painting, and it was still like
light and flirty, but for thepeople and the time it was like some
real turn up ship for them andit was just like nice to see,
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you know, folks have a goodtime. And then that night everything like
at the end of the party isusually like Mama, rememberable. So that
night I told you at the poolof my complexx, I was like,
you're gonna give me a son Andyou were like, I again, okay,
if you asked for it, youpretty much have been consistent with that.
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Yeah. So I mean, andyou made um, you know,
you came through on that. Sothat' and then the third party, damn
m The third party would be inSan Diego with the homie. Um.
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We didn't know her from well youknew her. I know her from a
pot of peas and she let usstay at her house. That was cool,
and she introduced us to her friendsand everything. I think it might
have been the second party when wecame back and we did at that warehouse
and we had a pole in thebathroom. That spot was so dope where
I did the massages in that one. It was like an empty empty warehouse
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office and we just had candles everywheredowntown San Diego. I think I had
the candles everywhere that should look likelike a sayance something that. It was
so beautiful. It was so fun, and that was like one of my
first times ever being around anybody.There was one of the guests there that
was like on special K and Ithought she was a cat. Yeah.
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Like we were like having like acircle conversation and I'm giving my spiel about
like loobs and I don't know soI could dick or whatever, and then
she was just like yo. Iwas like, is this like this has
been pranking me? And it's likesort of like realized, like, oh
wait, she's like with s andthen she just like fell asleep. Yeah.
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I don't know if she ever cameout, but like it was I
don't know, it was exciting.I've never been like in that, particularly
that environment, which is it wasdifferent, so it was fun. Three
favorite scenes you have ever done?Okay, I'll start out and work my
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way in, so I'll start ourhouse. Three favorite scenes. Um,
this one is gonna be a twofor one and it was. I shot
it in the House of Filthy femDom or shout out to five Star and
um. I shot both of thesescenes two separate ones, but one was
with Tony Orlando and the other onewas with Mouse. And in both of
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those scenes, I was able toput my foot in their ass, like
my my whole foot. Yeah that'sthe thing that people threaten people with.
I'm put my famisual way. Ohyeah. And and um, in the
first scene with with Tony Um Orlando, he was hopping from the bottom,
so like guiding me through it andyou know, sharing with me how to
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make sure that it was pleasurable forhim or whatever. And then the second
time I had a little bit moreexperience with Mouse, and um like five
Star Loves Loves to you know,incorporate that. So she did a really
good job. But like matching mewith people who and vice versa enjoy the
like extreme fetishes, but in theway that I enjoy doing them. Um,
And so those are my favorites becausethey really allowed me to push my
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like so much about doing this portshit is like what's the shit that I
couldn't do? Just like dating dudeslocally, you know, like I have
a lot of sex, I believe, wouldn't you agree? I could probably
have a lot of sex, butI don't know that I can have a
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lot of variety in that sex withoutspending a lot of time, right,
Yeah, I want to get likeright to that sometimes and these experiences had
allowed that, and I just feltlike that's such some ballshit, like when
people are like I'll put a footing, so like literally like you can.
You just got to kind of anglewith a good point and lots of loub
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So those those are my two fromones there. Um, moving in a
little closer. I love the onethat we shot in Jamaica. Um,
Aesthetically it's not my favorite, butthe experience of having a live audience.
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First of all, we were justlike so relaxed, so chill. It
was our first time presenting um atHito. Shout out to Organic Loving that
brought us out there, and Um, I don't know somehow we finessed it
that we was gonna do a livesex show. We just decided we was
going to do. We just decidedand that we were going to film it,
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um, and we were going todo past the camera. That was
just so cool And I remember shootingthat and at one point, um the
camera woman getting so excited she waslike holding me. She was trying to
push you into the day. Soit's kind of like a three song,
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but then you know, at somepoint, you know, just like losing
myself in you and just like havingan enjoyable time. And they were like
watching it back and then hearing theapplause. How many people could say that
they got applause for their orgasm?No, so that one, UM.
And then my third favorite scene becauseit's like some of the scenes, I
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they came out really beautifully, butmaybe they weren't my favorite to make.
So and then some of them likethat one was my favorite to make,
but it's not necessarily the most aesthetically. The breastml come shot one. Yeah,
I really love that one because Ithink you and I worked really well.
Um the videographer was great to workwith. Liver Vamp was great to
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work with UM, And it's oneof those scenes that I feel like shooting
it was we were like efficient.We may not have known everything that we
wanted, but like we were,we were flowing really good with figuring it
out together. We worked really wellwith each other. It's really beautiful and
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we got to do like it wentfrom tickling to like burning your beard.
That was something we planned. Shoutout to the cinematographer for real though.
Yeah, he really did. Um. It was like in this beautiful dungeon
and I remember I was just likecoming back from postpartum, and there's like
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a particular part of that scene whereI'm sitting in like the throne ish scene
and like live it's right here,and then like you're fucking her, but
I'm looking at you and I'm like, I don't know, like fuck her
into me or something like that.Um, And then I felt really like
empowered and beautiful in my body.Yeah. Yeas today that's just for today.
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What do you think that femdom andfetish play can do to a women's
empowerment? M So, oh,this is a big question. And I
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can tell you what it's done forme and women that I've had the pleasure
to that I've had the pleasure tobe trusted to help them explore. I
think what I was talking about alittle bit earlier of like finding my voice
to say what I wanted or missingout and then like practice sing a little
bit and being like oh okay,well I asked for that and he gave
it to me. Damn. LikeOkay, next time, I'm going to
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get the courage to And the nexttime I probably was like we're staying at
a hotel together. But you know, femdom and fetish and b DSM,
you know, the lifestyle really encouragesyou, and to a certain extent,
if you're going to be practicing ethicallyand well forces you to stay, to
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speak up and to encourage the peoplearound you to speak up. It also
supports you with rejection. And Ithink that that's something that as women we
don't experience quite the same way,and that we internalize it in a way
that makes us, um, like, you know, men are taught sort
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of healthy. Men are taught totake a lot of rejection, you know.
Um. Women were taught to bechosen, you know, And so
I think you know, in femdom, when we are going throughout like our
vetting and finding people who work wellwith us or who like things that we
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like, there are people who arenot gonna like your style of domination or
you're a fetish or how you wantto do these things. And you start
to learn that it's not it's notpersonal. You don't have to be chosen
every time. Um, you don'thave to internalize it. It's just not
a good match. And I findthat for in this I could say this
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especially for myself that in a lotof situations it was not a good match.
But because I was already there,I didn't know how to like how
to excuse myself from it and um, and like femdom has really really helped
with giving me that voice to belike, you know what, this is
just not a good fit for me. It doesn't mean it's bad. It
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doesn't mean that it's you know,bad for you, or that I'm a
bad person. Um, we justdon't work. This is just not a
good match. So that has beenreally empowering, and I have seen that
in other women. The other thingthat I think is really empowering is this
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is something I'm really really working on. And my message might be a little
bit it might be a little bitI don't know, choppy, but we're
home. So I've been working withwomen for many years on like how to
find your own style of female domination, How to find your own style,
like like what you're wearing to um, how you speak, if you want
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to speak at all, Like whoyou who you've seen with, what fetishes
you want to share, like allof this stuff, Like you want to
do something up to this point that'sfine and being like okay with that.
You know, um, somebody doesn'twant to play with you, that's okay
too. It's it's it does yourvalue is not held in that and um
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and and sort of working with them. One of the things that I've done
over time is continuously reflect on likewho am I as a femdom today?
Every time I go into a sessionwith a woman, I have to like
sort of check in with like whoare you? Who are you to be
doing this work? When's the lasttime you check them with yourself? You
know, to make sure that youare um qualified to be in this space?
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What style are you bringing in femdom? And what I have noticed is
that it is so important to methat my femdom does not look like the
practices of male toxicity being projected onmen from me, so like and this
is this is you know, mypractice and helping other women understand this.
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It's it's like you can sort oflike see this veil, like, oh,
I don't have to be an abusivean abusive man to be a fem
dom, like absolutely not like that. We don't even have to gender it.
We can just say those behaviors aretoxic and we don't have to perpetuate
toxic behaviors in any type of relationship. So everything from consent to like,
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I don't have to be brutal,you know. Um, female domination doesn't
have to look like male abuse.And I think that is so important to
be able. And I'm you know, working through how to like clearly articulate
this for me and you know,to help other women articulate this because a
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lot of us want to dominate blackmen, like we want to play with
black men in a lot of differentways, and a lot of black men
are turned off by the idea oflike that toxic abusive behavior, and so
they'll say, like, I don'twant nobody like screaming on me. And
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I was like, oh, Idon't have to do that, you know.
I don't want anybody like humiliating ordoing mind control mind games. I
mean, it's like not like Idon't have to do that, you know.
But part of that is because thereis a stereotype about female domination being
about women being mad at men andprojecting you know, anger, abus ecetera,
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etcetera on them. So I reallywant to be able to articulate that
well because I want more men toknow that I am a safe person to
play with. It don't mean likeI'm gonna cuddle and it's gonna be romance.
It's going to be femdom, butnot at the cost of your like
your safety, your humanity. Yeah, and your beauty. I love.
That's what amazing is. How wouldyou say you have grown sexually and you
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can take the start point from whereveryou want, but today, like it
could be the start point from yesterday, the start point from five, ten
years whatever. I think like abig a broad stroke is that, like
I I don't gotta be nothing,like I don't have to My growth has
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been in like not having weird,crazy expectations of my sex. It doesn't
have to be long, it doesn'thave to be um, it doesn't have
to be every I don't I don'tknow every week or every day or um.
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It doesn't have to be with anyLike I don't have to figure out
if I'm straight or if I'm gay, if I'm I don't have to figure
out any of those things like that. To me, Like I feel very
very free that like sex is uit is something. It's something that I
need and it's something that I want, but it's not it doesn't have to
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be scheduled or scripted. It doesn'thave to make sense to anyone. Um,
it doesn't even have to make perfectsense to me all the time.
Like I can just be like hmm, I think I want and that's fine,
you know, and where the growthin that is coming from, you
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know a lot of messaging of likeoh, like I put on or I
got it, did it today?Or you know, he uh, he's
gonna keep coming back from like Idon't care, he doesn't. He doesn't
have to, you know, likeif you if you want, you know,
and then we can revisit it atthat time. You know, um,
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it needs me. It doesn't likeeven I know that this will sounds
so sort of elementary now because butI remember even selling products that were like
this will get you like wetter,longer, tighter, And I was just
like, no, I don't.I need what I need for my comfort
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and my pleasure, not for whatis expected of me or what has been
taught to be an expectation of me. And I think that that's huge growth.
It's like it becomes my individualized sex. It's like I have my own
individualized sex treatment plan that is onlymine. What is your current fantasy do
you. I mean, I'm sureyou have more than one, but like,
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do you have a current fantasy thatyou're like, I won't make this
shit happen. Okay, I'll haveto look at the camera for this one.
Okay, because this is a PSAto the people it involves you man
share Oh shit, yeah all right, so I need to look at the
camera for this too. You probablyshould, all right. So my current
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fantasy angle is to craft this sexworker party, no sex worker sourere for
you? Yes, yeah, okay, Um, I am publicly calling out
Glittosaurus Rex you who is known forthrowing these swores, and I am publicly
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calling out sex work performers that havehad a wonderful time shooting with him for
Royal fetish films because they already knowhow we get down. And I I
like envision this like me like welcomeeverybody through the door, like hi,
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it's so good to see you.Yes, you know, oh, come
in, get comfortable, like almostlike a housewarming party, but it's like
a king warming party. And thenno, you don't. And it kind
of it's like a merge of fantasieswhere it's like I get excited to put
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you in situations I always have.And when we see fantasy flight parties and
used to do like the Climax showat the end, it's like gather around,
girls, gather around, Okay,do we have the money? We
do? Okay? And then Iused to look at you like, okay,
we straight like we got you worecome and perform. And so I
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would love to like recreate that.But like you actually engage with your scene
partners but together because they know theyknow your body. They um all see
like even even the scene partners likelike the men that you've shot with that
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y'all didn't you know y'all have likea boundary thing, like you know,
like you stay here and you stayhere, we like whatever, y'all know
what each other's boundaries are already likethem too, Like I want y'all at
this war ray as well. Yeah, so that like everybody can like.
And then it's like a meeting likeyou're seeing like all your art. It's
like a listening party, right likea jam session, a jam session.
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And then and then I don't Idon't even know that I necessarily want to
play as much as I want tobe able to, like sit back and
watch and sort of like look atall of the different combinations and connections in
the fantasy or is it. Ohyeah, we're definitely feeling this. Yeah.
Yeah, because part of the fantasyis like you know, everybody has
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the experience and stuff, right,but they also get to like leave it
a party prize, you get somecontent, a good party, you leave
with God, yeah, you leavewith something. Um and then the part
that probably is wouldn't be films andit kind of goes back to those parties.
It's like when it's all done,like okay, now is for me,
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so that you have like all thesexual energy and like you got to
pull from your reserve to give methe best fuck ever. Yeah, I
know you're welcome. You're welcome also, so please um actually, I have
a form on the website. Itsays come work with us, but just
put in the note section that you'veworked with Royal Fetish Films and you'd like
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to be a part of the sexWork Store. Ray that's it. Um
No, I still have more ofthis is we're coming down because we we've
touched on some on some topics.This one is even though even though you
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have like this this this powerful presenceof just setting jazz one. Who or
what would you say is your spiritanimal? And why? Because you're known
for the print. I know youfor the print for the print. Where
are you talking for the cheetah forthe leapon for the print? Okay,
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and also the other print. Yeahyou do. So. Wait, so
my spirit animal like animal animal?Yeah, it could be an animal or
it could be mythological creature whatever.Okay, Well, I think it's a
good time to confess that I'm reallynot a big animal lover like animal person,
so it's um hm hmmm, spiritanimal. All right, this is
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probably not gonna go over really well, then I'm probably gonna have to have
an art are prepared to edit.It is gonna if this is gonna feed
into people's stupid ass stereotypes. Butlike, for real, like a geek,
I'm monkey. They're they're fucking vicious, but they're cute and everybody likes
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to like be around them, andand you know you gotta have one around.
But they're vicious, they're's clever,they're creative. They use damn there
every part of them to get wherethey're going and what they need. Um,
they're fast, but they're Also they'renot very afraid, like to to
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an extent. It's like they'll stayto the very last minute and then they
no, right, they like checkit out, they watch, and then
when they feel like it's gonna besome shit or whatever, they move and
that Like I'm I'm not very I'mnot like a predatory, like a predatory
person, like you know what I'msaying, Like I don't need to attack,
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I like peep. And then I'mfine with either like either defending if
I need to or getting creative abouthow I'm gonna get that, like I
don't. Yeah, I don't likethat. Okay, I'm curious. Last
question and this is for everyone wholistened to our last episode. Same question
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for you love me? Now itshould be how about how you love yourself?
No? No, But but it'sfunny because I did have a question
that was very similar to that.So I'm going to ask it in my
own way, but it is verysimilar. Okay, what is your love
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language and how do you communicate itwith me? Okay, so you know,
um, I have to say otherwiseI feel like, um, I'm
gonna get like you know, umcanceled from the therapy. The sex therapy
department, like the guy who wrotethe Love Languages is like a piece of
shit. Yeah that guy. Andthen but there's you know, ultimately like
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the concept and the idea is.I liked it more the perspective of I'm
a writer, so I thought,imagine how you communicated with me. Yeah,
it could be phrased however you wantthough, Okay, cool, but
that's that's fine. I just haveto like put that out there. I've
read the books. It got methrough, like you know, it helped
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elevate UM. But the other thingtoo, is like we've evolved into love
ways that we love. I wouldsay I know for sure it's how I
spend my time UM because I likein the many, the very um very
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many descriptions of like a Gemini,and I think like this is where I'm
like, Okay, I don't knowa lot about astrology, but I definitely
feel like this part is on pointfor me. As geminized, we get
bored easy, and so like,how you spend your time UM really means
that something has captivated you. AndI spent like I for every possible way
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for us to spend time together.And like so it's like I'm constantly captivated
by you, and it can itcan even be like just you know,
sitting and we're not talking, orwe could be sitting and right next to
each other and somehow talking through threedifferent mediums at the same time, you
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know, or like how much wecommunicate with each other. So I communicate
my love for you with the timethat I spend with you and how I
spend and then how like like whenI'm like if I'm thinking of like,
Okay, I could do it thisway, but that's going to shorten the
amount of time now I'm going tobe with him, So like, no,
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why don't we just do it thisway so that we could just be
together, you know, like thatindsheets, yeah, being efficient, so
I can spend more time with you, because that's I like being with you.
But to that big, bigger questionsand that I had asked you,
which I have no problem answering,is like how do I love you?
I think not, I think Iknow I love you comprehensively, like I
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I look at and experience you foryou you know, um there and and
it has grown over time where inthe beginning I was like if I could
get him too, you know,like do this thing my way or this
way, like I could like Ilove am more or I you know,
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and then that has evolved to justlike how you do that? So that's
that's that's you, Okay. Ilove that. I love that about you,
oh you know, or like howokay, this is this is just
who you are and I've decided tolove you. So I decided just to
learn to learn more about that whateverthat is, you know, and it
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could be whatever. It's just likearound around the house, like why you
put that there? And you'll belike because I didn't for this reason,
and I'm like, okay, Ilearned something about how he how he operates.
I love that that's him. Youknow. It's like when you love
someone's idio scenecricies, not because they'reconvenient to you, not because they're relatable,
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just because it's like that because they'rethey're his, you know, And
it's almost, um, it's likeyou know how i'd be having like these
celebrity cut crushes and like standing onpeople like you know, like, oh,
clearly I want that because it's soand sos I fan girl about you
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in that way too, I doyeah, and not like in a way
like you know, I don't breakdown your movies. I can't tell you
all your scene names and etcetera,etcetera. But like the as a as
a fan of you, as someonewho loves you, I want to know,
like, how do you do that? Why do you do that?
When did you start doing that?Uh? Interesting? And now I want
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to follow it through the rest ofmy life to see how we evolved.
So I really do feel like Ilove you comprehensively. So you're welcome,
and you made it through. Wedid this. We have interviewed one another,
y'all, King of oar Jet SettingJasmine. This is Royal Fetish Radio,
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safe out there and uh be sexyas fucking you sexy as fucked too.
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Now let's do some fucking We speakto y'all soon. That was right up at him