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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the deep Dive. Wh're your regular stop for
cutting through all that information noise.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
That's right, we dig into the sources, pull out the
key stuff, the surprising.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Bit, and hopefully give you a few aha moments. Our
mission is really just to get.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You informed fast, and today we've got two really interesting sources.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah. First, ups and breaking news from Rolling Stone, a
huge unexpected collaboration m m. And then we're diving into
the world of Love Island. We've got insights from a
YouTube interview with the actual cast, a real behind the
scenes look.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Okay, so music superstar meets legendary filmmaker and then reality
TV life quite the mix exactly.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
We'll see how a global star is like redefining live performance,
and then we shift.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Gears right to how music routines even breakfast shapes life
inside that villa.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
There are some, you know, genuinely unexpected links here about
summer emotions. All of it should be.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Get Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Okay, let's unpack this first big one Rolling Stone reporting.
Billie Eilish is working with James Cameron.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, huge news.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
I mean James Cameron's that's a serious team.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Up, it really is. And Billy announced it herself at
her show in Manchester Saturday, July nineteenth.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
How did she frame it?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Well? She said the crowd might have noticed more cameras
than usual.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Ah, okay, little hint.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, and she called it something very very special, but
the real, the real kicker go on, she said, emphasized it.
It's going to be in three D.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Wow. Okay, three D. That changes things. And I love
how she involved the audience, didn't she totally?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
She told them you and me are part of the
thing that I'm making with him, like bringing them right into.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
It, so intimate. And she mentioned wearing the same outfit
for days.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, she joked, or maybe not joked, she might wear
the exact outfit for like.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Four days in a row because they'd be filming across
all those Manchester dates. Yeah, the nineteenth, twentieth, twenty second,
twenty third.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Exactly, which you know shows the scale. And guess who
was actually at that Manchester.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Show don't tell me himself?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yep, James Cameron was there in attendance. This isn't just
lending his name. He's involved.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Okay, that's fascinating. Hands on, And just for context, where
is she with her tour right now, right.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
So she's wrapping up the European leg End of July,
then Japan in.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
August, US dates later, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Mid October through to late November. And she's been doing
these amazing covers too, like Paramour in Paris, Radiohead and Amsterdam.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
She's really on fire. Yeah, Okay, Billie Eilish, James Cameron
three D. What does this mean? What are the implications here?
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, I mean the most obvious thing is blurring that line,
isn't it between a live gig and a well, a
movie experience.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Right. Cameron's the master of immersive worlds.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Exactly, and Billy creates these incredible, you know, sonic and
visual landscapes. So this might be more than just a concert.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Film, like a new kind of performance art, could.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Be maybe a whole new format, an immersive thing you experienced,
not just watch. But the challenge, I guess is capturing
that life energy, that raw feeling with all the tech,
the three D cameras without making it feel I don't know, sterile.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, you don't want to lose this bonanity.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
It definitely raises the bar for what a concert experience
even means. Beyond being there?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Is this the future you know, these massive sensory experiences
designed for everyone everywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Makes you wonder. Okay, So from that kind of crafted,
high tech experience, let's pivot to another curated world Love Island,
right the villa, And you mentioned sensory things. Even small
sounds there are huge. Starting with that text message sound.
Oh yeah, here's where it gets really interesting. I think
everyone knows that ding, but for the islanders, it's way
(03:41):
more than just a sound, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Oh? Absolutely? They said, it's almost a visceral like hearing
it now gives them nostalgia, but back then, back then,
it instantly tenses me up, one said. Another called it
a heart wrenching sound.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Wow, heart wrenching for a text alert.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, they described it like Pavlov's response. As soon as
they heard it, their minds just started racing questions like
it's Ari coming in, Who's getting kicked out? Recoupling, just
instant anxiety basically and dissipating things getting messy.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
That sound literally controlled their emotional state. It's wild. It's
like a real time psychic.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Experiment, it really is. And that constant tension, it must
have been exhausted.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okally, did they try to ignore it or block it out.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Seems like it was impossible. They were just so hyper
aware of it. They even had ideas to change the sound.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Oh yeah, like what.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Some funny ones a Star Wars Blaster for Peace apparently okay,
or Kanye's breathe for when drama was coming like a tornado.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Ah apt and the best one maybe justin Bieber's is
it too late now to say sorry.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
For after a fight?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Or something exactly like postcosa am War. Maybe it just
shows how much that one little Dan dominated.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Things incredible, So okay, the text time is an unwanted jolt.
What about music they actually wanted to hear? Let's talk
about their music journey before during after? Did they have
like pump up songs before going in?
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh? For sure, definitely hype up music, things like lmfaos,
I'm Sexy and I Know It classic?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
A throwback yeah, another old school hip hop. But then
once they got inside the villa, Yeah, totally different vibe.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
How so well, they couldn't listen to new music, weren't allowed.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
To be current, really cut off like that.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Completely, so they'd request songs from before the show, comfort.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Songs, almost any specifics.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, they mentioned requesting Billie Eilish's Bird of a Feather
and Beyonce Summer pretty much every day.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Ah. Okay, so seeking familiarity in that crazy environment makes sense.
What about the show's own music. That intro song came
Here for Love? They must have heard that a million times?
Oh yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
And the reactions afterwards were mixed. One person called watching
it back the cringiest thing I've ever seen, said never
play it for me again.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Ouch, even though they had learn all the words yep.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Another said they loved it before the show but got
sick of it and tired of seeing friends doing that
Cordell suitcase trend online.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, yeah, that went viral. Okay, so music inside was
limited familiar. What about when they finally got out, Ah,
that was intense.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
They described hearing music again as being.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Like drugs, like drugs that powerful.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yes, just blasting Taylor Swift and Natasha Beddingfield's Unwritten Apparently
they had a whole moment singing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It in the rain like a movie scene.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Totally and catching up on all the new Kendrick Lamar
the Drake Beef stuff they'd missed. It was like reconnecting
with the whole world.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Through music and they missed big cultural moments right, like
the whole Brat Summer.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Exactly one specifically mentioned missing the Charlie XCX Brat Summer,
the whole Green thing.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Wow, but some music hit right when they got out.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, this it'd Sprina Carpenter's stuff really fit the vibe,
and Bad Bunny's album was huge for them on return.
Music was definitely a lifeline.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It really sounds like it. Okay, So let's talk songs
of the Summer for twenty twenty five cast picks. This
is always fascinating and for you listening, maybe think about
what yours is.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, it's a really diverse list from the cast, shows
how personal music is. Give us some highlights, right, Uh
Sailor picked down Bad Benson Boom went with Beautiful Things,
talked about.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Gratitude, nice any country fans.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeap Lido chose Georgia Peach and Morgan Wallin's Miami for Boatside.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Lake Days, Hates a Picture, what else?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's a pick Kiss of Life, classic, smooth love song
sk went for twenty three someone Else the Weekends, Cry
for Me, emotional.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But peaceful, interesting range, even older stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Yeah, Neil Young's Old Man came up. Nostalgic, Mariah Carey's
It's Like That for Y two.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
K dance vibes, love it more hip hop.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Definitely pop smokes, what you Know about, Love about Vulnerability,
Drake's Nokia Smooth clubby Larry June, two chains Rima for hype, Wizked.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
For beach vibes and future He always seems to feature.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Oh Yeah, Coding crazy, and Pluto called Udo the nasty
song of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Confidence boosters Okay and Pitbull Mister Worldwide.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Had to be Give Me Everything Tonight reminded one of
the final Villa speeches. Gunner picked Classy Girl for Growth,
Chris Lake's Messy, Too Messy, Too Clean, Larry June again
with water My Flowers, Kid Cooties Ignite the Love.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
It's an incredibly eclectic list, and they even picked songs
for specific Villa drama right like Postcasa Amoor.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Totally like Beyonce's Lemonade or Rihanna's Breaking Dishes for the
after Cossa saga, and Carrie Underwood's Before He Cheats for
Aaron specifically Ooh Spicy.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So beyond just listening, what about live music concerts they've
seen or want to Cowboy.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Carter got multiple mentions seen it, planning to go again?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Wow? Who else?
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Kendrick and Sca saw him twice, called it amazing. Chris
Brown was a hard concert favorite, was Damian Marley in
Portugal and future plants.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Who's on the wish list?
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Fisher, Damola Metro Boomin, John Summit and wanting to see
artists in Europe.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Broad tastes definitely okay. Shifting from sound to taste, Let's
talk food, specifically those famous blueberry pancakes. What's the story there?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Ah, Yes, the great pancake debate of the season.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
There's always one who made the best ones?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Well? It was contentious Connor Cordsey Live. They all apparently
claimed the title. Competition everywhere pretty much, though Lea apparently
just made plain ones with extra butter for someone, so
you know, different.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Strokes fair enough. Any other snacks.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Cheese, toasties were mentioned, and a magical snack drawer sounds
good filled with chocolate cookies.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Nice and who did most of the cooking generally.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The guys it seems, and Miguel was voted the best chef,
apparently as dad owns a restaurant, so that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Pedigree helps any funny food stories.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
There was one about Jana eating someone's not so great
cooking purely for respect. Didn't want to offend them.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Oh, that's actually kind of sweet. In that environment, even
bad food needs diplomacy, right.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
It shows how those little daily things cooking, eating, become
loaded with social meaning. It's not just.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Fuel, connection, effort, respect. Yeah, all in a pancake potentially exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
So we've gone from, you know, the absolute cutting edge
with Billy and Cameron's three D project.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, thinking about the future of performance to.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
The really intense microworld of the Love Island filla, where
a text tone or a pancake can shape your whole day.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
So, wrapping this up, what's the thread connecting these what's
the big takeaway for you listening?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I think it's about how much our environment and the
sensory details in it really shape us, whether it's a.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Huge immersive three D experience or just a tiny sound.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Cue, exactly. They affect our perceptions, our feelings, our memories.
These worlds, one high tech art, one curated reality TV
both show how deeply these designed experiences impact us.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It really does make you think.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And maybe leaves us with the question, right, in this
world full of immersive stuff, curated feeds, reality shows, how
do we tell what's real connection versus you know, engineered
emotion that's a deep.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
One, and what kind of new you are. New ways
of expressing ourselves will come out of all these blurred lines.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Something to ponder, Definitely