April 12, 2024 • 38 mins
A friend of KHOW returns to the air as Ryan catches up with a friend. That special guest lets everyone know where you can hear him moving forward.
Dr. Phil weighs in on DEI with a perfect response and Ryan agrees with everything he has to say about the issue.
Dr. Phil weighs in on DEI with a perfect response and Ryan agrees with everything he has to say about the issue.
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As Jim Ross, the WWE commentator, would say, that's Leland Conway's music.
The class shatters. He's coming downthe entryway into the ring, joining
me by phone right now, ourgood friend Leland Conway. Leland, welcome
back, bro. You played mymusic. I'm coming over the rope at
you right now. Well, Idude, I am so excited and happy
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for you, your new opportunity,your new endeavor. Never had a doubt.
I mean I thought, maybe you'llgo to Memphis. He's got contact
with Ben Ferguson there. He's filledin for Joe PAGs in San Antonio's got
close ties in Phoenix to the morninghost there. But no, you went
off even further San Diago. Iplayed your statement on Facebook. I believe
it was Wednesday's show, but wantedto give you a chance to fill in
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the gaps a little bit more nowwhere you landed, what the show is,
and where people can find it.Yeah, sure, I appreciate that.
So we're going to be part ofthe family at news Radio six Hutter
Coco in San Diego, also partof the iHeart Radio family. So super
excited. Still continue to work withiHeart. I've basically worked with idheart for
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plus plus twenty years now, sobut this was gonna be like a little
bit different for me because I've neverdone this before. I'm actually I have
a co host and he's a supercool guy. His name is Mark Larson,
and he has been around the SanDiego market for a long time and
we just headed off man and we'vebecome really close friends in just a couple
of months that we've known each other. And it's it's gonna be it's gonna
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be a blast. We've already startedhaving fun and so yeah, I'm really
excited about it. It's interesting California. You know, we talk a lot
about California politics here in Colorado,but I can tell you that there's a
lot of folks there that are conservativesthat feel in battled and they just needed
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some help in an ally. Andthat's what I'm there for. I'm there
to be reinforcement to the troops,so to speak. Leland Conway, the
voice you no doubt recognize here joiningus on six already, k how we're
used to make his home two tofour pm. Right now it'll be is
seven to nine pm Mountain time,is that correct? Six to eight Pacific
that's correct. Yeah, six toeight Pacific. Yeah, and that'll be
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six hundred co goo as he mentionedSan Diego. You find that through the
iHeart app. I mean, likeyou said, he's still in the iHeart
network of stations and podcasts, alreadygot some content generated out there. I
joked with you off the era beforeLeland that you know, here you were
Colorado, you know, fighting thegood fight, but it probably it just
wasn't blue enough for you. Sohe had to go to a state that
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somehow was even bluer, and youend up in California. What is wrong
with you? Man? My momused to tell me, I'd argue with
the devil cell I'll go where thefolks are most in battled by the left
of politics. I'll go right there, into the middle of it, the
heart of it. Absolutely so.Yeah, yeah, but I will tell
you, like I said, it'sreally easy to see that there are far
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more conservatives in California than I thinka lot of people give it credit for,
and far more people that have said, you know what, I'm not
moving. I'm not letting them chaseme out. I'm not going to let
them take my flag away from me. I'm going to stand and that's that's
you know, that kind of appealsto me, right, like being right
in the mix of it. Soand stand in arm in arm and side
by side with looks like that,Leland. Conway the voice that you're hearing
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now part of Conway and Larson withMark Larson. Now, I got to
ask how you pulled that off becauseI remember the story about how Ciskel and
Ebert arrived at their name for theirshow, whether it was going to be
Ciskel and Ebert or Ebert and Siskel, and they both kind of agreed,
you know what, it just flowsbetter to say Ciskel and Ebert. How
did you get top billing there,Leland, I don't know, man,
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I paid somebody off. I mean, I really get everything done. Yeah,
I mean, just bribe somebody.That's the best way to do it.
Absolutely not. You said this isa change for you. You're going
to be working with a co hostand kind of playing off of him.
What is that going to sound like? What can listeners expect? Well,
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we both think very similarly, butwe have like kind of he's he's a
little bit older than I am,and so it kind of creates this really
cool balance between maybe looking at thingsthat are conservative politics from a bit younger
perspective and also having that sort ofmore traditional look as well. And I
think it flows really well because againthe viewpoint or the principles they're the same,
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but there's there's a slightly different wayof looking at things, and so
that allows us to attack issues morebroadly, I think, and kind of
kind of break them down a littlebit more. And the other thing is
we found from you know, youplayed the intro music to Twisted View on
the station, and I actually loveinteracting with other people in the air.
You and I have interacted a lotduring the course of my time there at
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khow so I actually do like itand I fit right well into that role.
But I think that the interesting thingabout that is that it we as
sometimes talk show hosts can have atendency to get pigeonholed into one particular line
of thought kind of keep going downthat tunnel. When you have somebody else
that's looking at it, it allowsyou to kind of break it open a
little bit more, you go alittle bit deeper on issues. And I
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don't know, but maybe there's away that kind of wins hearts and minds
a little bit more if you can, if you can get a little the
other side listening and then bring abunch of different angles to a story to
the table, perhaps that's a betterlong term conversation, if you know what
I mean. Find his new showLeland Conway on the Line with Me,
Conway and Larson. The name ofit Cogo Kogo dot iHeart dot com.
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You can find it by looking throughthe evening programming there. And it's great
because it builds right into our clockhere. I mean, as soon as
you're done to listen to Dan Kaplis, maybe throw on an hour Joe Pegs
and then go right into seven tonine with Conway and Larson taking you into
our American stories back here on sixpoint thirty. K how Leland, you've
been able to build your own studioand I've seen pictures of it. Just
how well done that is. Andit's allowed you to fill in across the
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country, like I mentioned, Memphis, San Antonio, Phoenix, San Diego,
a little bit easier when you werehere in Denver with the sho show,
because you make your home in Colorado, springs to come up here from
time to time. But how areyou going to manage that if at all,
travel to San Diego to be therein person, to work on that
side of things, to kind ofget your name and face out there.
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So the wonders of modern technology.We've been there, done that before.
We'll definitely be maintaining a residence herein the state of Colorado and probably splitting
time between the two. So propertysearch is going to be fun in San
Diego. My friend, housing copsare high here, they're high there.
But we're gonna We're gonna keep ourresidents here in Colorado and split a little
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bit of time. And I've gotother business interests that I have to follow
up on as well, you knowwhat I mean. So we have to
in today's modern world. I don'tthink you necessarily have to be in one
place all the time. And Ithink that's the beauty of the beauty of
being able to build that studio thatworks anywhere and everywhere. Obviously, nothing
replaces I'm being in, you know, in town, so to speak,
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and so I think it's important tohave kind of a place in both places.
So that's the plan. So Ilove that plan. Now, I
would be remiss if I let yougo before asking about your Big Blue Kentucky
Wildcats. A lot of wild thingshappening. I mean, you're changing places.
John Calipari's changing places. He's goingto Arkansas. Now. Former player
Mark Pope is going from BYU tobe the head coach at Kentucky. Seems
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like it's his dream job, probablyan end stop destination for him. Seems
like on social media you've continuously warmedup to the idea of Mark Pope.
How do you feel right now?Well, first of all, if you
notice the timing of me leaving khowI was doing everything I could to create
the rumor that I was going tobe the next coach. There were a
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few gullibles that took the bait,but not enough to actually pay into like
a lifetime contract worth fifty million dollars, so that didn't work out. But
in all seriousness, there's a couplethings about Mark Pope. He was not
my first choice. He was notmy second choice, he was not even
my third choice. But I knowthe guy, and I know the guy
because he's actually really good friends anda former teammate of one of my best
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friends in the world, Camberon Mills. They both played on the nineteen ninety
six University of Kentucky National Championship together. Mark Polpe is a Rhodes Scholar,
like a legit Rhodes Scholars, oneof the smartest people you'll ever meet.
He's got a great offense at BYU, and he's Kentucky through and through.
He loves that program. He willbleed that program, and because of that
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local connection, there's going to bethe ability to actually build a program the
way I think Kentucky fans. Theymay not know it today, but they
will like now. My initial reactionagain was very negative in the sense that
there were other other top level coachesthat I was hoping we were going to
zoom in on. I was prettydisappointed that Scott Drew And look, I
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respect the heck out of him,and you and I are both people of
faith, very important. If Godtells you to stay put someplace, stay
put some place. But I'm kindof I was a little bit miffed at
God We're telling him to stay atBaylor. Johnny. I really thought that
would have been a great, agreat pick. Billy Donovan was my next,
my sort of third choice or secondchoice. Dan Hurley was my third
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choice, but he rejected before weeven got a chance to pop the question
at Billy Donovan. The sad thingis we never even waited to actually do
that with Billy Donovan. My sourcesare telling me they never even got to
that point. But here's why Iwarmed up to him, just to explain
why I kind of changed circle.My friend Cameron Mills have a world of
respect for him again. He playedon two national championship teams, three Final
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four teams, and I asked him, I said, does this guy have
the merit to take this to whereit needs to be? And he said,
it's the right hire. Obviously,there's a lot of glitzy, glamorous,
shiny bobbles out there. There's peoplethat everybody wants to go and take,
but there's those diamonds in the roughand the tools that Mark Pope brings
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to it are thinking to be exactlywhat Kentucky fans want. The thing he's
gonna have missing is his ability torecruit. And I know this is way
more information about UK than probably Colorado'swant to know you asked, So I'm
laying it out there. We Ultimately, I think it's a good high I
do too, and I think it'sa destination job. For him. He's
not going to be looking to goanywhere else now, Leland. Before I
let you go, I just wantto give you a chance. A lot
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of listeners out there they miss you. It's been three weeks since they heard
your voice. One opportunity here foryou to just tell them what you think,
what's on your mind, and whereyou're going. Well, thanks,
I appreciate that. Gosh, Ilove everybody that's been a part of my
shows throughout the whole time that I'vebeen on the air and all the different
places I've been, and there's beenpeople that have become Facebook and Twitter followers
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and social media friends and stuff,and I just hope everybody will you continue
to maintain that relationship with me,because I definitely appreciate the support and the
outpouring of support that I've had.I will tell you this, couldn't have
picked a better person to fill mytiny clown shoes. You've got this,
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You're going to do an even bettershow, and I know that you're going
to be a fierce fighter for localissues. That was something that you and
I work together on, and soI'm super excited that you get this opportunity,
and a man, I'm really proudof you, and I'm proud for
you, and I know you're gonnado awesome. But yeah, just just
to all the folks that were partof the show, thanks so much for
being a part of it. Continueto follow. We're going to continue putting
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content out and just so everybody knows, we got a trip coming up in
August to listen to k How thatis on. There's no way they're keeping
me out of Italy because I wantsome of that pizza over there. So
we're going to go have a greattime together. And big fan of k
How, big fan of all ofyou folks at KA HOW couldn't have been
more blessed Ryan with the opportunity Ihad to hang out with you guys for
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the period of time that I did. It literally was an awesome blessing.
I'm a better person for it andlove you and love all of you,
so thank you so much. Man. Yeah, that love is return.
I am so stoked that you arestill going to Italy and our listeners will
be reassured to hear that. Ijust want to say, for the record,
with an earshot of you and forour listeners, there is nobody in
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this building who brought together the onair personnel, whether it was the third
Floor FM folks, or our KOAcounterparts or us here on k how all
the show's here. There's nobody thatbrought everyone together the way that Leland did
with Twisted View. I know thatis something that people miss, but that's
your intellectual property and I don't wantto steal from that. It's a uniquely
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yours Leland. I could not doit, and maybe you'll reprise it with
Mark Larson. I don't know,is that possible. No, I want
you to tell, folks, soI'm just keep your eyes open. We
might be doing something with some ofthe same characters. I love it.
We'll just leave it at that.Brother. All right, brother, it's
going away, all right. Iknow you're really busy. I took more
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of your time than I said Iwould. I apologize for that, but
best luck with a new venture again. People, you can catch him.
iHeartRadio app that's the easiest place togo. Six hundred co Go. That's
Kogo and San Diego, Conway andLarsen his new gig. Leland Conway always
wishing you the best. Come backand visit soon, will you? Thank
yeah, brother, love you manMi Leland Joko, the one, the
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only Leland Conway. I thought you'denjoy that, especially here on a Friday
when we used to do Twisted Viewin this hour as close as we're going
to get for right now. Butto always appreciate Leland his time and he's
always all systems go. It's hardto keep up with that guy, but
I did my level best and youcan send your words along. Kelly.
You'll take a screenshot of those texts. You want to send a message to
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Leland. You just heard him afive seven seven three nine, Send it
Ryan, but put Leland in there. And like I said, Kelly'll pass
that along to Leland. I knowhe'll appreciate it as you can hear.
Just a great guy, the guythat you hear on the phone. That's
the guy that Kelly and I andJazzy dealt with on a daily basis.
There's no pretense or falseness about LelandConway and he's one of a kind.
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And again he throws a lot offastballs. It's harder. I'm only,
like, what not even a yearolder than him. We're Irish brothers.
I make that joke all the time, but we're yin and yang, and
he keeps me going and keeps meat a high voltage, higher than I'm
usually at and it's a perfect balancethough for you guys, I thought so,
and it really was cut me onmy toes and then you know,
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I kind of keep him grounded.It would have been funnier to have like
a behind the scenes documentary of theshow and what we did on a daily
basis, you know how we arrivedat the show that actually went on the
air of me cleaning up his messes. That would be she appreciated. Yes,
I'm sure of that. Yes,So yeah, a great conversation and
wishing Leland the very best. He'sgoing to be a hit in San Diego,
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there's no doubt about that. Well, I want to end this hour
on this note, Doctor Phil justhitting it out of the park. But
this was a guest he had onwho was there to champion DEI diversity,
equity and inclusion, an HR leaderand just listen to what she has to
say. I'm sure he's getting moreand more diverse. If you look at
the census, in the next coupleof decades, white people will no longer
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be the majority. So DNI isone of the most significant and important aspects
of HR. So it's diversity,equity, and inclusion, and we need
to be able to understand how toeffectively work together so people feel valued and
contribute to the organization in a positiveway. I really don't want to come
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off as a white savior, assomebody with privilege. As a white woman,
it is easier for me to speakup in an organization because there is
usually going to be less biased towardssomebody who looks like me. So when
I hear that DEI is sort ofa liberal agenda, that goes back to
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the fact that DEI is not charitywork. Businesses are helping them get in
touch with their customers, they're improvingtheir employer brand, and they're able to
be more creative and innovated based ontheir diverse population. So I have a
hard time accepting that anyone thinks thatthese are negatives. DEI is about building
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it more inclusive processes. Oh mygod, Kelly, I'm going to turn
to you on this one, because, Oh, I don't know if I
hold on, hold on. Youare a white college educated woman, correct,
yes, what is wrong with you? What is wrong with white college
educated women? And it's not youpersonally, but you know what I'm talking
about. I do you look atthe polls, they're the ones that stand
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out now that are just wacko leftYep. When she says I don't want
to come across as a white savior, what she means is I want to
come across as a white savior.You cue the meme of what's her name
from Targarian from Game of Thrones whenshe's this white savior and all these enslaved
peoples of color lift her up,and I just I envisioned this woman that
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way. What stood out to youabout what she said? First of all,
you know how I feel about deEi. Oh yeah, I mean,
thanks a given. But it's justit's all pandering, and it's just
we're over it, Isn't it condescending? Too? Is? And I mean
if I were a black person,college educated, just even though I'm white,
I would actually take offense to that, just like I would take great
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offense to them saying I can't goto the DMV because I can't get an
ID right to vote. So Imean, this is just typical pandering.
This is what white privilege that we'vebeen taught all through academia, and this
is how it kind of siphons downand it's really sad. It's sad.
And again it goes to this narrativeof not only DEI, but the critical
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race theory of we are automatically theoppressors, you and me. Even though
I have no ancestry of slave ownerswhatsoever. Neither do I, in fact,
on my mom's side, rather downtroddenfrom Southern Europe, in the former
Yugoslavia and Serbia and so forth.Everybody has a different background. Your skin
color does not define you. Ihate that people do that at all.
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You know, one of my bestfriends of the world you heard from yesterday,
Herman Howard. We have some discussionson race, but it's more like,
why is it a big deal?Like I see him as a great
man. He happens to be black. He thinks the world of me and
has helped me so much in mycareer. I happened to be white.
I told you yesterday. I stoodup in his wedding. I went down
to a Southern Baptist church that wasalmost entirely black. I was like one
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of two white guys that walked in. I could have not have been welcomed
more with open arms, warmth,just tremendous grace, and the best food
of your life too, soul foodone hundred percent. His mother was a
magician as a cook, and Iwas so fortunate to get to meet her.
I just hope that she and mymom are together smiling down on that
conversation we had yesterday. Just waittill you hear doctor Phil's reaction. It's
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level the playing field for everyone?Okay, so that means you're trying to
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create equality of outcome. That's whatI hear you saying about playing god.
How do you create a quality ofoutcome? People aren't the same, You're
right, some people are shorter,some people are taller. Looking over that
fence, they can't both play inthe NBA, right, You can't create
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a quality of outcome. What givesa DEI program the right to come in
and try and alter the nature ofthings to create a quality of outcome that's
been tried that didn't work. Thatwas called Marxism. Yes it was doctor
Phil. Thank god for him.Ryan shooing back with you here on six
point thirty K how your text fiveseven seven three nine, Start them Ryan,
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it's Kelly. You heard her?Kind of? That was the same
woman, by the way, beforethe break, we played that HR leader
and she was championing DEI and shedidn't want to come across as a white
savior. But if you're gonna callyou a white savior, then that's okay
because this is what I don't understand. And again, this is your perspective.
I want you to give it tome and anybody else out there.
If you're a white college educated female, what the hell went wrong? But
the hell went wrong with you people? I'm saying, I'm just trying to
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ask the question about why you're aunique exception, Kelly, because you give
zero fs and you will tell peoplewhere to stick it. But why won't
more white college educated women go.I'm not afraid if you're gonna call me
racist or any of these other names. I'm not afraid of not being woke.
I am who I am GT tothe FO. Why not. They're
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uncomfortable within their own selves because we'vebeen indoctrinated into believing that we have this
white privilege when it does not exist. Let me tell you why it doesn't
exist. And I've told Trevor this, your son. Yeah, you're filling
out a job application. I toldthis to Jazz too, and they ask
you in that whole section of EEO, Equal Opportunity AA Affirmative Action, what
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is your race? What is yourgender? You think, as a white
male, you want to check eitherone of those boxes? You're insane if
you do your nuts. If youdo, you just gave them two reasons
not to hire you. So everyapplication, Kelly, Yeah, and I
would urge this for Trevor and forJazz unless he stays here, which I
hope that he does, but ifhe doesn't, he moves on. Do
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not check those boxes if you're whiteor if you're mail let them guess well,
especially now that you have to applyfor so many things online. Yeah,
you need to know you're automatically putin the circular file exactly, and
you are you just so eighty sixto begin with, because you don't fill
a certain you know, target,so they want to where is my white
male privilege If I don't want tocheck those two boxes, if it existed
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and it's paramount and it's endemic inour society, that I would le and
enthusiastically check. Hell, I'm whiteand I'm a dude, hire me,
right, But why why don't Ido that? Because nobody bases anything on
qualifications or a meritocracy anymore. Everythingis about, as we discussed KJP Pete
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buddhages, you have certain things thatyou want to fill, certain holes you
have to fill to make it looklike you're diverse, well exclusive. Let
me turn that on its head,though, because not you know, people
are you. You're xenophobic, you'reracist, you're homophobic. I'm not any
of those things. Now, Iknow that I want qualified people, right,
and if they happen to be inthose silos the democrats want to define
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people by great I want a diversediversity of thought in my work. We're
going way too far now because wenow have medical schools that are saying,
eh, it's okay, you couldjust apprentice for a couple of years and
be a doctor. We don't reallyneed you to do residency or anything like
that. We've got law schools outthere was saying, don't even bother taking
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the bar, just get a jobat a law firm and you know you're
going to be okay, And ohthat stupid l sat that people had today
to get into law school forget aboutthat. So there are and don't even
get me started on airline pilots.Yeah, we don't want to arry,
okay, I mean, and thefact that, okay, if I'm lying
on a like a surgical table andI'm in an accident, I don't really
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care if the guy's black, white, Asian, Hispanic. Just save me,
and please know how to save me, and not be there because you
interned for a doctor for a yearand now you have an MD. My
experience with this, I grew up, you know, early on poor.
I had books and encyclopedias I couldread. There were documentaries I could watch.
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My parents were hands on and involvedin my education. I could ask
them questions. But I was myown best teacher. I wasn't given anything.
I didn't go to the best privateschools. My family couldn't afford that.
I was accepted in the Northwestern that'sno small thing, or Michigan.
And for that matter. And Iremember I was in a math competition in
seventh grade. I show up,I'm looking around. I'm one of the
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only white males there. There wasall kinds of Asian boys and girls,
Indian boys and girls, very verysmart, very smart. They deserve to
be there. Meritocracy got them there, Meritocracy got me there. And on
graduation day, I'll never forget this. I may have told the story before,
but we were I was the presidentof the National Honor Society. It
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was the president of my class,and we had gold tassels that we were
going to wear. Oh yes,And some of the female students who were
in that group, including my vicepresident, came up to the others of
us and said, Hey, alot of the other guys, you know,
they feel left out. They feelbad. They don't have gold tasks
we do. Do we really wantto rub it in? Yeah? What
do you think? I said,yes, I said, yeah, you're
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damn right. Yeah. I workedhard. I spent time studying and being
in nerve while they were out atparties, drugging out and drinking. And
that was their choice. But Imade my choice. Well I'm benefiting from
my choice when you and I bothgraduated from high school, there was one
valedictorian and one salutatarian. When bothof my kids graduated from high school,
there were twelve. Well now they'redoing away with them entirely, and I
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think, you know, want tomake the kids feel bad. Well,
hold on. In Trevor's class,I believe there was eight valedictorians. It's
ridiculous. Five salutatorians. And Hayley'sthere was twelve valedictorians and ten no salutatorians.
Now, sometimes you lose in lifeand you learn way more from your
losses than you do from your wins. And what do you do, ah
men, You pick yourself back upand you work even harder. That's the
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that's the work ethic. Get youcan't have things handed to you just by
charity. I wouldn't want it thatway. Well, here's here's something before
we go to break. This isfor you. This for you, cal
So. My good friend Courtney Odellwho joins me on the show at times,
usually around the holidays, with recipeideas and so forth. She's a
blogger and a great person. Shesent out the following on X I'm sorry
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to be the one to inform youthat if you rescued a dog, which
you did, right, Odessa,I did. Okay, if you rescue
a dog, you have a whitesavior complex. Yeah, let me explain.
Here we go. This is fromat Ginger's underscore. Naps don't know
what that means, but here wego. What does white saviorism have to
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do with animals? It explains whitesaviorism is rampant in the pet industry because
rescuing animals, often considered voiceless,helpless, innocent, and grateful, provides
that warm feeling that white saviors seek. Like you kel So, there's no
there's no minorities that have adopted dogstalking about you white saviorld. Okay,
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I'm a white sure because I adoptedan animal. Damn right, you are
here. We can see white saviorismin action when a natural disaster hits a
majority non white area and organization's rallyto extract dogs from there, but not
to help the people survive or recover. Or when someone offers to buy a
dog from someone experiencing homelessness. Ihate that too. I don't know what
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I hate more somebody that's experiencing homelessness. It's the Jimmy Hendricks experience. That's
the homeless experience. I'm going throughthis experience. I mean it's experiential.
It's like extrasensory. You're homeless,you gotta dog come on anyway anyway,
so that or newcomer, I'm notsure which I like less, but not
to help that person find shelter.Or when a rescue post a pitbulls quote
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rags to riches story, using codedlanguage to imply the previous guardians were evil
read poor and non white, buta thankfully a white woman came along to
save the dog. Finally, thewhite savior has no interest in keeping pets
with the people who already love them. The white savior has to take that
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animal to what they perceive as quotea better place, which is usually just
a middle class white home. Youwhite savior, you Kelly, why are
you so white? Saviory? That'spretty much a bunch of bs, probably
the most that you've ever uttered onair. I read it. I'm just
saying it might have been on readit. I don't know, but I
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have never heard of anything so absolutelyridiculous. Yes, oh gosh, so
you're a white person out there.No, she's the one that made fun
of it. Saying, I'm sorryto be the one to inform you that
if you rescued a dog, yeah, you're a white savior. God right,
got it? So she was sayingit in jes as my dad would
say. I can't win for losinghere. I save the dog, you're
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a white savior. You don't savethe dog, You're a cruel animal hater.
What are we supposed to do aswhite people? Tell me what I'm
supposed to do? Am I supposedto be a savior? Am I not
supposed to be a savior? DoI want to help people? Should I
not help people? Should I helpdogs? Should I not help dogs?
Gosh, I guess I'm a realwhite savior because I adopted a black cat.
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So now I'm really feeling like,oh my god, I must have
guilt someplace in there. See.This is why I want to stress to
those of you who are a littleweak in the knees. Not like Kelly,
but if you're a white college educatedwoman and you're afraid of people calling
you these things and you don't wantto be viewed as xenophobic or racist or
any of these things, just tellthem to g t to the f Oh
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that's how you get out of this, you pull a kid rock and go.
I'm just not gonna let them cancelme tell them where to go.
If those are the people whose approvalyou seek, you're seeking approval from the
wrong people. You're nicer than Iam, because I usually just say kiss
my ass. Okay, You whitesaviors out there, especially college educated women,
what do you think about this?Have you rescued a dog? If
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you did, shame on you.Why did you do that? Wrapping it
up with your text and very important, we're going to name the fool of
the week when we come in,and once again, if you're just tuning
in, just started this last week, the nomine and we'll play the winner
when we come back. Miles Taylor, the Whistleblowers podcast host, saying,
if Trump's elected, guess what youcall nine to one one. They're gonna
(31:07):
ask you who you voted for.If you answer wrong, you're not getting
nine to one one services. Helegitimately said that Representative Sheila Jackson Lee Democrat
Texas, suggests the Moon is madeof gases and therefore humans could live there.
Unlike the Sun, we can It'salmost impossible to go to the Sun,
she said, not impossible. There'sa way we could go to the
sun, but it's almost impossible.And then finally Sonny Houston, who believes
(31:30):
that earthquakes and eclipses are proof thatclimate change exists, but even Whoopie Goldberg
and Joy Behar fact checked her inreal time. We've got a lot of
sunny votes coming in on that basis. We've already got some, Sheila Jackson
Lee. We'll go down the stretchhere, see if Miles can catch up
with some votes. Announce the winnerwhen we come back, closing out six
point thirty k. How back afterthis, Frank durand the real estate man,
(31:55):
let me tell you why you're gonnawant to reach out to him real
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it's no surprise under this Biden administration. Let's get Trump in there, shall
we. But as a result,the Fed unlikely to cut those interest rates
that have gotten so high. Whenyou're looking to take out a mortgage,
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(32:17):
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Frank Duran Holmes dot com. You'rea buyer, you're a seller,
(32:42):
You're a little bit of both.You're coming into the spring season, you
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Frank Duran, the real estate Man, and tell them Ryan sent you Friday
Edition. Ryan Shirling with you hereon six point thirty k OW Jasey,
Jeff on the other side of theglass. Kelly's gonna tell us our fool
of the week in just a moment. First a text, This one says,
Ryan, my wife is a whitecollege educated professional woman, and she's
the one who convinced me to votefor Trump in twenty sixteen. Still on
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the Trump train. Yeah, thereare exceptions to the rule, And my
baseline suggestion would just be this tothe the kind of borderline college educated white
women. They might have the Saviorstuff going on or the DEI, and
they want to be accepted and theywant to be loved, and they want
the Wolkes to like them. They'renever gonna like you. They'll use you,
they'll try to use you as auseful idiot, but the moment you
(33:50):
step out of line, it's likecurby your enthusiasm. As woke as Larry
David always tried to be, hecould never be woken up, and they'd
always call him out on it.It was a punchline on so many of
his shows. So you might wellnot even give into that crap and tell
them whether you just stick it andthen you're done with it. All right,
get some more tech. But beforethat, our Friday fool of the
Week Round two Kamala Harris. Lastweek, Kelly once again the nominees.
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If you're just joining us, MilesTaylor, the Whistleblowers podcast host, you
called nine to one one. IfTrump's elected, they're gonna ask you who
you voted for, and that'll determinewhether you get service. Representative. Sheila
Jackson Lee Ross Kaminski voiced his vote, I think in the break and we
didn't even ask him for it,suggesting the moon is made of gases and
therefore it's easier to live there thantrying to go to the sun. And
Sonny Houston got fact checked by bothWhoopee Goldberg and Joy Behar trying to suggest
(34:38):
that earthquakes and eclipses are proof thatclimate change exists. Strong nominees, but
Kelly, our winner, it wouldbe Sheila Jackson Lee and her Gassie Moon.
All right, let's go to thetape. Provide unique light and energy
so that you have the energy ofthe moon at night. What and sometimes
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you've heard the word full moon.Sometimes you need to take the opportunities to
come out and see a full moon. Is that complete rounded circle which is
made up mostly of gases And that'swhy. The question, The question is
why or how could we as humanslive on the Moon. Are the gases
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such that we could do that?Uh? The Sun is a mighty powerful
heat and it's almost impossible almost togo near the Sun, almost impossible.
The Moon is more manageable. Andyou will see in a moment, or
not a moment. You'll see ina couple of years that NASA is going
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back to the Moon, but notto the Sun. Congratulations Representative Sheila Jackson
Lee Yu are full of the week. That's great stuff. Right. There
was it Icarus in the Greek mythologythat had the wax wings and flight too
close to the Sun? Correct?Right? I mean, at least if
she had rooted her thesis in Greekmythology, I would have had some respect
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for it. But this was comingout of nowhere, and I think a
well deserved And it wasn't even close. No, No, The closest jame
was Sonny and that she only gottwo roads. But this Sheila got fined,
all right. So she is ourweek to winner. Send your nominees
to me each week. It couldbe Monday, you witnessed something in the
news. You think it's bat blankcrazy five seven seven three nine, Send
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it Ryan and let me know thatyou're nominating that person for our Friday fool
of the Week. This one saysKelly adopted a black cat. She probably
gave it a white name and putits food in a bowl on the floor
too. Some savior you were,says this text. I added the kind
of emphosis there. What was theIt was Gemma, yes, and that
was from the TV show, wasthat Sons of Anaxal, Sons of Anarchy?
(36:50):
That was the Katie Sagall character,right, correct. So, and
she did not have a bull onthe floor. She had a princess dish.
She had to climb up. Shepassed, as you know at Christmas
RP. And so she would haveto jump up because the dog would eat
her food. Oh, Dessa,Odessa Messussor though I'm sure about that,
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Sarah, a great text here.I'm very narrow minded because to me,
there's only one race, the humanrace. People from all over the world
have different skin colors, and thankfullyI was raised to be colorblind. I
judge a person by their character andhow they interact with myself and others,
and not by their education, money, or color. You're so right,
Sarah, I've met fantastic people fromevery different background, every different shade of
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melanin, doesn't matter. I don'tcare. You're wasting time time that you
could spend getting to know that person, asking them questions about their background,
figuring out what you have in commonrather than what makes you different. I
have so many interesting friends because ofthat, that shared experience that we have
as Americans, but the different thingsthat we bring to the table, and
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it truly is a melting pot,and that's what makes us great. Let's
appreciate it, Let's celebrate it.Let's end on that note for a Friday.
DJ Jazzy Jeff great work is alwaysappreciate you men and Kelly, great
contributions as well, even though you'rea white savior. Back with more Monday
tune in then Ryan Shuling on sixthirty k Houn
As Jim Ross, the WWE commentator, would say, that's Leland Conway's music.
The class shatters. He's coming downthe entryway into the ring, joining
me by phone right now, ourgood friend Leland Conway. Leland, welcome
back, bro. You played mymusic. I'm coming over the rope at
you right now. Well, Idude, I am so excited and happy
(00:23):
for you, your new opportunity,your new endeavor. Never had a doubt.
I mean I thought, maybe you'llgo to Memphis. He's got contact
with Ben Ferguson there. He's filledin for Joe PAGs in San Antonio's got
close ties in Phoenix to the morninghost there. But no, you went
off even further San Diago. Iplayed your statement on Facebook. I believe
it was Wednesday's show, but wantedto give you a chance to fill in
(00:45):
the gaps a little bit more nowwhere you landed, what the show is,
and where people can find it.Yeah, sure, I appreciate that.
So we're going to be part ofthe family at news Radio six Hutter
Coco in San Diego, also partof the iHeart Radio family. So super
excited. Still continue to work withiHeart. I've basically worked with idheart for
(01:06):
plus plus twenty years now, sobut this was gonna be like a little
bit different for me because I've neverdone this before. I'm actually I have
a co host and he's a supercool guy. His name is Mark Larson,
and he has been around the SanDiego market for a long time and
we just headed off man and we'vebecome really close friends in just a couple
of months that we've known each other. And it's it's gonna be it's gonna
(01:29):
be a blast. We've already startedhaving fun and so yeah, I'm really
excited about it. It's interesting California. You know, we talk a lot
about California politics here in Colorado,but I can tell you that there's a
lot of folks there that are conservativesthat feel in battled and they just needed
(01:49):
some help in an ally. Andthat's what I'm there for. I'm there
to be reinforcement to the troops,so to speak. Leland Conway, the
voice you no doubt recognize here joiningus on six already, k how we're
used to make his home two tofour pm. Right now it'll be is
seven to nine pm Mountain time,is that correct? Six to eight Pacific
that's correct. Yeah, six toeight Pacific. Yeah, and that'll be
(02:10):
six hundred co goo as he mentionedSan Diego. You find that through the
iHeart app. I mean, likeyou said, he's still in the iHeart
network of stations and podcasts, alreadygot some content generated out there. I
joked with you off the era beforeLeland that you know, here you were
Colorado, you know, fighting thegood fight, but it probably it just
wasn't blue enough for you. Sohe had to go to a state that
(02:31):
somehow was even bluer, and youend up in California. What is wrong
with you? Man? My momused to tell me, I'd argue with
the devil cell I'll go where thefolks are most in battled by the left
of politics. I'll go right there, into the middle of it, the
heart of it. Absolutely so.Yeah, yeah, but I will tell
you, like I said, it'sreally easy to see that there are far
(02:55):
more conservatives in California than I thinka lot of people give it credit for,
and far more people that have said, you know what, I'm not
moving. I'm not letting them chaseme out. I'm not going to let
them take my flag away from me. I'm going to stand and that's that's
you know, that kind of appealsto me, right, like being right
in the mix of it. Soand stand in arm in arm and side
by side with looks like that,Leland. Conway the voice that you're hearing
(03:17):
now part of Conway and Larson withMark Larson. Now, I got to
ask how you pulled that off becauseI remember the story about how Ciskel and
Ebert arrived at their name for theirshow, whether it was going to be
Ciskel and Ebert or Ebert and Siskel, and they both kind of agreed,
you know what, it just flowsbetter to say Ciskel and Ebert. How
did you get top billing there,Leland, I don't know, man,
(03:38):
I paid somebody off. I mean, I really get everything done. Yeah,
I mean, just bribe somebody.That's the best way to do it.
Absolutely not. You said this isa change for you. You're going
to be working with a co hostand kind of playing off of him.
What is that going to sound like? What can listeners expect? Well,
(03:58):
we both think very similarly, butwe have like kind of he's he's a
little bit older than I am,and so it kind of creates this really
cool balance between maybe looking at thingsthat are conservative politics from a bit younger
perspective and also having that sort ofmore traditional look as well. And I
think it flows really well because againthe viewpoint or the principles they're the same,
(04:23):
but there's there's a slightly different wayof looking at things, and so
that allows us to attack issues morebroadly, I think, and kind of
kind of break them down a littlebit more. And the other thing is
we found from you know, youplayed the intro music to Twisted View on
the station, and I actually loveinteracting with other people in the air.
You and I have interacted a lotduring the course of my time there at
(04:44):
khow so I actually do like itand I fit right well into that role.
But I think that the interesting thingabout that is that it we as
sometimes talk show hosts can have atendency to get pigeonholed into one particular line
of thought kind of keep going downthat tunnel. When you have somebody else
that's looking at it, it allowsyou to kind of break it open a
little bit more, you go alittle bit deeper on issues. And I
(05:08):
don't know, but maybe there's away that kind of wins hearts and minds
a little bit more if you can, if you can get a little the
other side listening and then bring abunch of different angles to a story to
the table, perhaps that's a betterlong term conversation, if you know what
I mean. Find his new showLeland Conway on the Line with Me,
Conway and Larson. The name ofit Cogo Kogo dot iHeart dot com.
(05:28):
You can find it by looking throughthe evening programming there. And it's great
because it builds right into our clockhere. I mean, as soon as
you're done to listen to Dan Kaplis, maybe throw on an hour Joe Pegs
and then go right into seven tonine with Conway and Larson taking you into
our American stories back here on sixpoint thirty. K how Leland, you've
been able to build your own studioand I've seen pictures of it. Just
how well done that is. Andit's allowed you to fill in across the
(05:51):
country, like I mentioned, Memphis, San Antonio, Phoenix, San Diego,
a little bit easier when you werehere in Denver with the sho show,
because you make your home in Colorado, springs to come up here from
time to time. But how areyou going to manage that if at all,
travel to San Diego to be therein person, to work on that
side of things, to kind ofget your name and face out there.
(06:14):
So the wonders of modern technology.We've been there, done that before.
We'll definitely be maintaining a residence herein the state of Colorado and probably splitting
time between the two. So propertysearch is going to be fun in San
Diego. My friend, housing copsare high here, they're high there.
But we're gonna We're gonna keep ourresidents here in Colorado and split a little
(06:40):
bit of time. And I've gotother business interests that I have to follow
up on as well, you knowwhat I mean. So we have to
in today's modern world. I don'tthink you necessarily have to be in one
place all the time. And Ithink that's the beauty of the beauty of
being able to build that studio thatworks anywhere and everywhere. Obviously, nothing
replaces I'm being in, you know, in town, so to speak,
(07:01):
and so I think it's important tohave kind of a place in both places.
So that's the plan. So Ilove that plan. Now, I
would be remiss if I let yougo before asking about your Big Blue Kentucky
Wildcats. A lot of wild thingshappening. I mean, you're changing places.
John Calipari's changing places. He's goingto Arkansas. Now. Former player
Mark Pope is going from BYU tobe the head coach at Kentucky. Seems
(07:26):
like it's his dream job, probablyan end stop destination for him. Seems
like on social media you've continuously warmedup to the idea of Mark Pope.
How do you feel right now?Well, first of all, if you
notice the timing of me leaving khowI was doing everything I could to create
the rumor that I was going tobe the next coach. There were a
(07:47):
few gullibles that took the bait,but not enough to actually pay into like
a lifetime contract worth fifty million dollars, so that didn't work out. But
in all seriousness, there's a couplethings about Mark Pope. He was not
my first choice. He was notmy second choice, he was not even
my third choice. But I knowthe guy, and I know the guy
because he's actually really good friends anda former teammate of one of my best
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friends in the world, Camberon Mills. They both played on the nineteen ninety
six University of Kentucky National Championship together. Mark Polpe is a Rhodes Scholar,
like a legit Rhodes Scholars, oneof the smartest people you'll ever meet.
He's got a great offense at BYU, and he's Kentucky through and through.
He loves that program. He willbleed that program, and because of that
(08:30):
local connection, there's going to bethe ability to actually build a program the
way I think Kentucky fans. Theymay not know it today, but they
will like now. My initial reactionagain was very negative in the sense that
there were other other top level coachesthat I was hoping we were going to
zoom in on. I was prettydisappointed that Scott Drew And look, I
(08:52):
respect the heck out of him,and you and I are both people of
faith, very important. If Godtells you to stay put someplace, stay
put some place. But I'm kindof I was a little bit miffed at
God We're telling him to stay atBaylor. Johnny. I really thought that
would have been a great, agreat pick. Billy Donovan was my next,
my sort of third choice or secondchoice. Dan Hurley was my third
(09:15):
choice, but he rejected before weeven got a chance to pop the question
at Billy Donovan. The sad thingis we never even waited to actually do
that with Billy Donovan. My sourcesare telling me they never even got to
that point. But here's why Iwarmed up to him, just to explain
why I kind of changed circle.My friend Cameron Mills have a world of
respect for him again. He playedon two national championship teams, three Final
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four teams, and I asked him, I said, does this guy have
the merit to take this to whereit needs to be? And he said,
it's the right hire. Obviously,there's a lot of glitzy, glamorous,
shiny bobbles out there. There's peoplethat everybody wants to go and take,
but there's those diamonds in the roughand the tools that Mark Pope brings
(09:58):
to it are thinking to be exactlywhat Kentucky fans want. The thing he's
gonna have missing is his ability torecruit. And I know this is way
more information about UK than probably Colorado'swant to know you asked, So I'm
laying it out there. We Ultimately, I think it's a good high I
do too, and I think it'sa destination job. For him. He's
not going to be looking to goanywhere else now, Leland. Before I
let you go, I just wantto give you a chance. A lot
(10:20):
of listeners out there they miss you. It's been three weeks since they heard
your voice. One opportunity here foryou to just tell them what you think,
what's on your mind, and whereyou're going. Well, thanks,
I appreciate that. Gosh, Ilove everybody that's been a part of my
shows throughout the whole time that I'vebeen on the air and all the different
places I've been, and there's beenpeople that have become Facebook and Twitter followers
(10:41):
and social media friends and stuff,and I just hope everybody will you continue
to maintain that relationship with me,because I definitely appreciate the support and the
outpouring of support that I've had.I will tell you this, couldn't have
picked a better person to fill mytiny clown shoes. You've got this,
(11:01):
You're going to do an even bettershow, and I know that you're going
to be a fierce fighter for localissues. That was something that you and
I work together on, and soI'm super excited that you get this opportunity,
and a man, I'm really proudof you, and I'm proud for
you, and I know you're gonnado awesome. But yeah, just just
to all the folks that were partof the show, thanks so much for
being a part of it. Continueto follow. We're going to continue putting
(11:24):
content out and just so everybody knows, we got a trip coming up in
August to listen to k How thatis on. There's no way they're keeping
me out of Italy because I wantsome of that pizza over there. So
we're going to go have a greattime together. And big fan of k
How, big fan of all ofyou folks at KA HOW couldn't have been
more blessed Ryan with the opportunity Ihad to hang out with you guys for
(11:46):
the period of time that I did. It literally was an awesome blessing.
I'm a better person for it andlove you and love all of you,
so thank you so much. Man. Yeah, that love is return.
I am so stoked that you arestill going to Italy and our listeners will
be reassured to hear that. Ijust want to say, for the record,
with an earshot of you and forour listeners, there is nobody in
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this building who brought together the onair personnel, whether it was the third
Floor FM folks, or our KOAcounterparts or us here on k how all
the show's here. There's nobody thatbrought everyone together the way that Leland did
with Twisted View. I know thatis something that people miss, but that's
your intellectual property and I don't wantto steal from that. It's a uniquely
(12:31):
yours Leland. I could not doit, and maybe you'll reprise it with
Mark Larson. I don't know,is that possible. No, I want
you to tell, folks, soI'm just keep your eyes open. We
might be doing something with some ofthe same characters. I love it.
We'll just leave it at that.Brother. All right, brother, it's
going away, all right. Iknow you're really busy. I took more
(12:52):
of your time than I said Iwould. I apologize for that, but
best luck with a new venture again. People, you can catch him.
iHeartRadio app that's the easiest place togo. Six hundred co Go. That's
Kogo and San Diego, Conway andLarsen his new gig. Leland Conway always
wishing you the best. Come backand visit soon, will you? Thank
yeah, brother, love you manMi Leland Joko, the one, the
(13:16):
only Leland Conway. I thought you'denjoy that, especially here on a Friday
when we used to do Twisted Viewin this hour as close as we're going
to get for right now. Butto always appreciate Leland his time and he's
always all systems go. It's hardto keep up with that guy, but
I did my level best and youcan send your words along. Kelly.
You'll take a screenshot of those texts. You want to send a message to
(13:37):
Leland. You just heard him afive seven seven three nine, Send it
Ryan, but put Leland in there. And like I said, Kelly'll pass
that along to Leland. I knowhe'll appreciate it as you can hear.
Just a great guy, the guythat you hear on the phone. That's
the guy that Kelly and I andJazzy dealt with on a daily basis.
There's no pretense or falseness about LelandConway and he's one of a kind.
(13:58):
And again he throws a lot offastballs. It's harder. I'm only,
like, what not even a yearolder than him. We're Irish brothers.
I make that joke all the time, but we're yin and yang, and
he keeps me going and keeps meat a high voltage, higher than I'm
usually at and it's a perfect balancethough for you guys, I thought so,
and it really was cut me onmy toes and then you know,
(14:18):
I kind of keep him grounded.It would have been funnier to have like
a behind the scenes documentary of theshow and what we did on a daily
basis, you know how we arrivedat the show that actually went on the
air of me cleaning up his messes. That would be she appreciated. Yes,
I'm sure of that. Yes,So yeah, a great conversation and
wishing Leland the very best. He'sgoing to be a hit in San Diego,
(14:39):
there's no doubt about that. Well, I want to end this hour
on this note, Doctor Phil justhitting it out of the park. But
this was a guest he had onwho was there to champion DEI diversity,
equity and inclusion, an HR leaderand just listen to what she has to
say. I'm sure he's getting moreand more diverse. If you look at
the census, in the next coupleof decades, white people will no longer
(15:03):
be the majority. So DNI isone of the most significant and important aspects
of HR. So it's diversity,equity, and inclusion, and we need
to be able to understand how toeffectively work together so people feel valued and
contribute to the organization in a positiveway. I really don't want to come
(15:24):
off as a white savior, assomebody with privilege. As a white woman,
it is easier for me to speakup in an organization because there is
usually going to be less biased towardssomebody who looks like me. So when
I hear that DEI is sort ofa liberal agenda, that goes back to
(15:45):
the fact that DEI is not charitywork. Businesses are helping them get in
touch with their customers, they're improvingtheir employer brand, and they're able to
be more creative and innovated based ontheir diverse population. So I have a
hard time accepting that anyone thinks thatthese are negatives. DEI is about building
(16:07):
it more inclusive processes. Oh mygod, Kelly, I'm going to turn
to you on this one, because, Oh, I don't know if I
hold on, hold on. Youare a white college educated woman, correct,
yes, what is wrong with you? What is wrong with white college
educated women? And it's not youpersonally, but you know what I'm talking
about. I do you look atthe polls, they're the ones that stand
(16:30):
out now that are just wacko leftYep. When she says I don't want
to come across as a white savior, what she means is I want to
come across as a white savior.You cue the meme of what's her name
from Targarian from Game of Thrones whenshe's this white savior and all these enslaved
peoples of color lift her up,and I just I envisioned this woman that
(16:52):
way. What stood out to youabout what she said? First of all,
you know how I feel about deEi. Oh yeah, I mean,
thanks a given. But it's justit's all pandering, and it's just
we're over it, Isn't it condescending? Too? Is? And I mean
if I were a black person,college educated, just even though I'm white,
I would actually take offense to that, just like I would take great
(17:15):
offense to them saying I can't goto the DMV because I can't get an
ID right to vote. So Imean, this is just typical pandering.
This is what white privilege that we'vebeen taught all through academia, and this
is how it kind of siphons downand it's really sad. It's sad.
And again it goes to this narrativeof not only DEI, but the critical
(17:38):
race theory of we are automatically theoppressors, you and me. Even though
I have no ancestry of slave ownerswhatsoever. Neither do I, in fact,
on my mom's side, rather downtroddenfrom Southern Europe, in the former
Yugoslavia and Serbia and so forth.Everybody has a different background. Your skin
color does not define you. Ihate that people do that at all.
(17:59):
You know, one of my bestfriends of the world you heard from yesterday,
Herman Howard. We have some discussionson race, but it's more like,
why is it a big deal?Like I see him as a great
man. He happens to be black. He thinks the world of me and
has helped me so much in mycareer. I happened to be white.
I told you yesterday. I stoodup in his wedding. I went down
to a Southern Baptist church that wasalmost entirely black. I was like one
(18:22):
of two white guys that walked in. I could have not have been welcomed
more with open arms, warmth,just tremendous grace, and the best food
of your life too, soul foodone hundred percent. His mother was a
magician as a cook, and Iwas so fortunate to get to meet her.
I just hope that she and mymom are together smiling down on that
conversation we had yesterday. Just waittill you hear doctor Phil's reaction. It's
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have to overcome racism, unconscious biasedmisogyny, and so how do we help
level the playing field for everyone?Okay, so that means you're trying to
(20:18):
create equality of outcome. That's whatI hear you saying about playing god.
How do you create a quality ofoutcome? People aren't the same, You're
right, some people are shorter,some people are taller. Looking over that
fence, they can't both play inthe NBA, right, You can't create
(20:38):
a quality of outcome. What givesa DEI program the right to come in
and try and alter the nature ofthings to create a quality of outcome that's
been tried that didn't work. Thatwas called Marxism. Yes it was doctor
Phil. Thank god for him.Ryan shooing back with you here on six
point thirty K how your text fiveseven seven three nine, Start them Ryan,
(21:03):
it's Kelly. You heard her?Kind of? That was the same
woman, by the way, beforethe break, we played that HR leader
and she was championing DEI and shedidn't want to come across as a white
savior. But if you're gonna callyou a white savior, then that's okay
because this is what I don't understand. And again, this is your perspective.
I want you to give it tome and anybody else out there.
If you're a white college educated female, what the hell went wrong? But
the hell went wrong with you people? I'm saying, I'm just trying to
(21:23):
ask the question about why you're aunique exception, Kelly, because you give
zero fs and you will tell peoplewhere to stick it. But why won't
more white college educated women go.I'm not afraid if you're gonna call me
racist or any of these other names. I'm not afraid of not being woke.
I am who I am GT tothe FO. Why not. They're
(21:45):
uncomfortable within their own selves because we'vebeen indoctrinated into believing that we have this
white privilege when it does not exist. Let me tell you why it doesn't
exist. And I've told Trevor this, your son. Yeah, you're filling
out a job application. I toldthis to Jazz too, and they ask
you in that whole section of EEO, Equal Opportunity AA Affirmative Action, what
(22:07):
is your race? What is yourgender? You think, as a white
male, you want to check eitherone of those boxes? You're insane if
you do your nuts. If youdo, you just gave them two reasons
not to hire you. So everyapplication, Kelly, Yeah, and I
would urge this for Trevor and forJazz unless he stays here, which I
hope that he does, but ifhe doesn't, he moves on. Do
(22:29):
not check those boxes if you're whiteor if you're mail let them guess well,
especially now that you have to applyfor so many things online. Yeah,
you need to know you're automatically putin the circular file exactly, and
you are you just so eighty sixto begin with, because you don't fill
a certain you know, target,so they want to where is my white
male privilege If I don't want tocheck those two boxes, if it existed
(22:53):
and it's paramount and it's endemic inour society, that I would le and
enthusiastically check. Hell, I'm whiteand I'm a dude, hire me,
right, But why why don't Ido that? Because nobody bases anything on
qualifications or a meritocracy anymore. Everythingis about, as we discussed KJP Pete
(23:18):
buddhages, you have certain things thatyou want to fill, certain holes you
have to fill to make it looklike you're diverse, well exclusive. Let
me turn that on its head,though, because not you know, people
are you. You're xenophobic, you'reracist, you're homophobic. I'm not any
of those things. Now, Iknow that I want qualified people, right,
and if they happen to be inthose silos the democrats want to define
(23:40):
people by great I want a diversediversity of thought in my work. We're
going way too far now because wenow have medical schools that are saying,
eh, it's okay, you couldjust apprentice for a couple of years and
be a doctor. We don't reallyneed you to do residency or anything like
that. We've got law schools outthere was saying, don't even bother taking
(24:00):
the bar, just get a jobat a law firm and you know you're
going to be okay, And ohthat stupid l sat that people had today
to get into law school forget aboutthat. So there are and don't even
get me started on airline pilots.Yeah, we don't want to arry,
okay, I mean, and thefact that, okay, if I'm lying
on a like a surgical table andI'm in an accident, I don't really
(24:23):
care if the guy's black, white, Asian, Hispanic. Just save me,
and please know how to save me, and not be there because you
interned for a doctor for a yearand now you have an MD. My
experience with this, I grew up, you know, early on poor.
I had books and encyclopedias I couldread. There were documentaries I could watch.
(24:48):
My parents were hands on and involvedin my education. I could ask
them questions. But I was myown best teacher. I wasn't given anything.
I didn't go to the best privateschools. My family couldn't afford that.
I was accepted in the Northwestern that'sno small thing, or Michigan.
And for that matter. And Iremember I was in a math competition in
seventh grade. I show up,I'm looking around. I'm one of the
(25:11):
only white males there. There wasall kinds of Asian boys and girls,
Indian boys and girls, very verysmart, very smart. They deserve to
be there. Meritocracy got them there, Meritocracy got me there. And on
graduation day, I'll never forget this. I may have told the story before,
but we were I was the presidentof the National Honor Society. It
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was the president of my class,and we had gold tassels that we were
going to wear. Oh yes,And some of the female students who were
in that group, including my vicepresident, came up to the others of
us and said, Hey, alot of the other guys, you know,
they feel left out. They feelbad. They don't have gold tasks
we do. Do we really wantto rub it in? Yeah? What
do you think? I said,yes, I said, yeah, you're
(25:55):
damn right. Yeah. I workedhard. I spent time studying and being
in nerve while they were out atparties, drugging out and drinking. And
that was their choice. But Imade my choice. Well I'm benefiting from
my choice when you and I bothgraduated from high school, there was one
valedictorian and one salutatarian. When bothof my kids graduated from high school,
there were twelve. Well now they'redoing away with them entirely, and I
(26:18):
think, you know, want tomake the kids feel bad. Well,
hold on. In Trevor's class,I believe there was eight valedictorians. It's
ridiculous. Five salutatorians. And Hayley'sthere was twelve valedictorians and ten no salutatorians.
Now, sometimes you lose in lifeand you learn way more from your
losses than you do from your wins. And what do you do, ah
men, You pick yourself back upand you work even harder. That's the
(26:40):
that's the work ethic. Get youcan't have things handed to you just by
charity. I wouldn't want it thatway. Well, here's here's something before
we go to break. This isfor you. This for you, cal
So. My good friend Courtney Odellwho joins me on the show at times,
usually around the holidays, with recipeideas and so forth. She's a
blogger and a great person. Shesent out the following on X I'm sorry
(27:02):
to be the one to inform youthat if you rescued a dog, which
you did, right, Odessa,I did. Okay, if you rescue
a dog, you have a whitesavior complex. Yeah, let me explain.
Here we go. This is fromat Ginger's underscore. Naps don't know
what that means, but here wego. What does white saviorism have to
(27:22):
do with animals? It explains whitesaviorism is rampant in the pet industry because
rescuing animals, often considered voiceless,helpless, innocent, and grateful, provides
that warm feeling that white saviors seek. Like you kel So, there's no
there's no minorities that have adopted dogstalking about you white saviorld. Okay,
(27:47):
I'm a white sure because I adoptedan animal. Damn right, you are
here. We can see white saviorismin action when a natural disaster hits a
majority non white area and organization's rallyto extract dogs from there, but not
to help the people survive or recover. Or when someone offers to buy a
dog from someone experiencing homelessness. Ihate that too. I don't know what
(28:08):
I hate more somebody that's experiencing homelessness. It's the Jimmy Hendricks experience. That's
the homeless experience. I'm going throughthis experience. I mean it's experiential.
It's like extrasensory. You're homeless,you gotta dog come on anyway anyway,
so that or newcomer, I'm notsure which I like less, but not
to help that person find shelter.Or when a rescue post a pitbulls quote
(28:32):
rags to riches story, using codedlanguage to imply the previous guardians were evil
read poor and non white, buta thankfully a white woman came along to
save the dog. Finally, thewhite savior has no interest in keeping pets
with the people who already love them. The white savior has to take that
(28:52):
animal to what they perceive as quotea better place, which is usually just
a middle class white home. Youwhite savior, you Kelly, why are
you so white? Saviory? That'spretty much a bunch of bs, probably
the most that you've ever uttered onair. I read it. I'm just
saying it might have been on readit. I don't know, but I
(29:15):
have never heard of anything so absolutelyridiculous. Yes, oh gosh, so
you're a white person out there.No, she's the one that made fun
of it. Saying, I'm sorryto be the one to inform you that
if you rescued a dog, yeah, you're a white savior. God right,
got it? So she was sayingit in jes as my dad would
say. I can't win for losinghere. I save the dog, you're
(29:37):
a white savior. You don't savethe dog, You're a cruel animal hater.
What are we supposed to do aswhite people? Tell me what I'm
supposed to do? Am I supposedto be a savior? Am I not
supposed to be a savior? DoI want to help people? Should I
not help people? Should I helpdogs? Should I not help dogs?
Gosh, I guess I'm a realwhite savior because I adopted a black cat.
(29:57):
So now I'm really feeling like,oh my god, I must have
guilt someplace in there. See.This is why I want to stress to
those of you who are a littleweak in the knees. Not like Kelly,
but if you're a white college educatedwoman and you're afraid of people calling
you these things and you don't wantto be viewed as xenophobic or racist or
any of these things, just tellthem to g t to the f Oh
(30:22):
that's how you get out of this, you pull a kid rock and go.
I'm just not gonna let them cancelme tell them where to go.
If those are the people whose approvalyou seek, you're seeking approval from the
wrong people. You're nicer than Iam, because I usually just say kiss
my ass. Okay, You whitesaviors out there, especially college educated women,
what do you think about this?Have you rescued a dog? If
(30:45):
you did, shame on you.Why did you do that? Wrapping it
up with your text and very important, we're going to name the fool of
the week when we come in,and once again, if you're just tuning
in, just started this last week, the nomine and we'll play the winner
when we come back. Miles Taylor, the Whistleblowers podcast host, saying,
if Trump's elected, guess what youcall nine to one one. They're gonna
(31:07):
ask you who you voted for.If you answer wrong, you're not getting
nine to one one services. Helegitimately said that Representative Sheila Jackson Lee Democrat
Texas, suggests the Moon is madeof gases and therefore humans could live there.
Unlike the Sun, we can It'salmost impossible to go to the Sun,
she said, not impossible. There'sa way we could go to the
sun, but it's almost impossible.And then finally Sonny Houston, who believes
(31:30):
that earthquakes and eclipses are proof thatclimate change exists, but even Whoopie Goldberg
and Joy Behar fact checked her inreal time. We've got a lot of
sunny votes coming in on that basis. We've already got some, Sheila Jackson
Lee. We'll go down the stretchhere, see if Miles can catch up
with some votes. Announce the winnerwhen we come back, closing out six
point thirty k. How back afterthis, Frank durand the real estate man,
(31:55):
let me tell you why you're gonnawant to reach out to him real
soon if you're looking to buy ahome or sell your own home, because
earlier this week we got that reportthat inflation was coming in hot, and
it's no surprise under this Biden administration. Let's get Trump in there, shall
we. But as a result,the Fed unlikely to cut those interest rates
that have gotten so high. Whenyou're looking to take out a mortgage,
so you need as much help asyou can get. Don't go to Zillo.
(32:17):
That's like going to Wikipedia. Youwant to go to a guy who
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well known and trusted names in Denver. He's been on the Tom Martine referral
list for years. He's a strongsupporter of our programming here on six point
thirty KO, including this show.He joins me once a week to give
us the very latest. You canfind out a lot on the website too,
Frank Duran Holmes dot com. You'rea buyer, you're a seller,
(32:42):
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Frank Duran, the real estate Man, and tell them Ryan sent you Friday
Edition. Ryan Shirling with you hereon six point thirty k OW Jasey,
Jeff on the other side of theglass. Kelly's gonna tell us our fool
of the week in just a moment. First a text, This one says,
Ryan, my wife is a whitecollege educated professional woman, and she's
the one who convinced me to votefor Trump in twenty sixteen. Still on
(33:29):
the Trump train. Yeah, thereare exceptions to the rule, And my
baseline suggestion would just be this tothe the kind of borderline college educated white
women. They might have the Saviorstuff going on or the DEI, and
they want to be accepted and theywant to be loved, and they want
the Wolkes to like them. They'renever gonna like you. They'll use you,
they'll try to use you as auseful idiot, but the moment you
(33:50):
step out of line, it's likecurby your enthusiasm. As woke as Larry
David always tried to be, hecould never be woken up, and they'd
always call him out on it.It was a punchline on so many of
his shows. So you might wellnot even give into that crap and tell
them whether you just stick it andthen you're done with it. All right,
get some more tech. But beforethat, our Friday fool of the
Week Round two Kamala Harris. Lastweek, Kelly once again the nominees.
(34:15):
If you're just joining us, MilesTaylor, the Whistleblowers podcast host, you
called nine to one one. IfTrump's elected, they're gonna ask you who
you voted for, and that'll determinewhether you get service. Representative. Sheila
Jackson Lee Ross Kaminski voiced his vote, I think in the break and we
didn't even ask him for it,suggesting the moon is made of gases and
therefore it's easier to live there thantrying to go to the sun. And
Sonny Houston got fact checked by bothWhoopee Goldberg and Joy Behar trying to suggest
(34:38):
that earthquakes and eclipses are proof thatclimate change exists. Strong nominees, but
Kelly, our winner, it wouldbe Sheila Jackson Lee and her Gassie Moon.
All right, let's go to thetape. Provide unique light and energy
so that you have the energy ofthe moon at night. What and sometimes
(35:01):
you've heard the word full moon.Sometimes you need to take the opportunities to
come out and see a full moon. Is that complete rounded circle which is
made up mostly of gases And that'swhy. The question, The question is
why or how could we as humanslive on the Moon. Are the gases
(35:21):
such that we could do that?Uh? The Sun is a mighty powerful
heat and it's almost impossible almost togo near the Sun, almost impossible.
The Moon is more manageable. Andyou will see in a moment, or
not a moment. You'll see ina couple of years that NASA is going
(35:43):
back to the Moon, but notto the Sun. Congratulations Representative Sheila Jackson
Lee Yu are full of the week. That's great stuff. Right. There
was it Icarus in the Greek mythologythat had the wax wings and flight too
close to the Sun? Correct?Right? I mean, at least if
she had rooted her thesis in Greekmythology, I would have had some respect
(36:04):
for it. But this was comingout of nowhere, and I think a
well deserved And it wasn't even close. No, No, The closest jame
was Sonny and that she only gottwo roads. But this Sheila got fined,
all right. So she is ourweek to winner. Send your nominees
to me each week. It couldbe Monday, you witnessed something in the
news. You think it's bat blankcrazy five seven seven three nine, Send
(36:27):
it Ryan and let me know thatyou're nominating that person for our Friday fool
of the Week. This one saysKelly adopted a black cat. She probably
gave it a white name and putits food in a bowl on the floor
too. Some savior you were,says this text. I added the kind
of emphosis there. What was theIt was Gemma, yes, and that
was from the TV show, wasthat Sons of Anaxal, Sons of Anarchy?
(36:50):
That was the Katie Sagall character,right, correct. So, and
she did not have a bull onthe floor. She had a princess dish.
She had to climb up. Shepassed, as you know at Christmas
RP. And so she would haveto jump up because the dog would eat
her food. Oh, Dessa,Odessa Messussor though I'm sure about that,
(37:10):
Sarah, a great text here.I'm very narrow minded because to me,
there's only one race, the humanrace. People from all over the world
have different skin colors, and thankfullyI was raised to be colorblind. I
judge a person by their character andhow they interact with myself and others,
and not by their education, money, or color. You're so right,
Sarah, I've met fantastic people fromevery different background, every different shade of
(37:30):
melanin, doesn't matter. I don'tcare. You're wasting time time that you
could spend getting to know that person, asking them questions about their background,
figuring out what you have in commonrather than what makes you different. I
have so many interesting friends because ofthat, that shared experience that we have
as Americans, but the different thingsthat we bring to the table, and
(37:52):
it truly is a melting pot,and that's what makes us great. Let's
appreciate it, Let's celebrate it.Let's end on that note for a Friday.
DJ Jazzy Jeff great work is alwaysappreciate you men and Kelly, great
contributions as well, even though you'rea white savior. Back with more Monday
tune in then Ryan Shuling on sixthirty k Houn
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