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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You heard Dennis Quaid there portraying Ronald Reagan in the
film Reagan. Penelope Anne Miller as Nancy Reagan also prominently
featured in this film. You heard the music the callback
there to an eighties anthem by Tears for Fears. Everybody
Wants to Rule the World. Ryan Schuling with you, and
Christian Toto joins me. You can find out more about
him at Hollywood Intoto dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Christian, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I know we've discussed at length Reagan, but I felt
it was worth revisiting because what I continue to see
from the mainstream media, or rather don't see, and that
is the discrepancy in the Tomato meter between that number
and the popcorn meter. At rotntomatoes dot com, seventeen percent
of critics approve of the film, ninety eight percent of audiences,
and the consensus critic review reads as follows. While Reagan,
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the movie undoubtedly admires Reagan, the man is cloying and
glossy rendering of history flattens the fortieth US president into caricature.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Christian, what say you, well, I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Agree with that. I think the film certainly has its
flaws but I mean, I think that gap is really
indicative of where this situation is right now with critics
and the public. The vast, vast majority of critics lean
to the left, and that's no crime. They can lean
any they wish, but they let it influence their reviews.
And I've said so many times. If I'm reading The
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Nation or The New Republic and there's a film critic
in the pages or cyber pages, it's perfectly fine that
they lean to the left. That's basically what the audience expects.
But you know, we're talking about critics from CNN or
Washington Post or New York Times or all places where
they're supposed to be a political, non partisan, you name it,
and that's just the way they think. So if it's
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a movie that's a hagiography about Obama or PG or
other you know, liberal darlings, then it's going to dramatically
impact their reviews.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Christian.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
When we think about the genre of kind of an
autobiography documentary, there are three approaches I think we've seen
in the past, and particularly when it comes to political figures,
and that is kind of an antipathy toward the subject
in which it is revealing something that is not flattering
about the individual.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
There is a neutral objective of.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Documentary that basically covers it as is, does not reflect
or inject opinion into the matter, but rather lets the
audience judge for themselves. And there's the favorable kind of approach,
which I think is what we get here in this
version of Reagan that is meant for audiences like you
and me that are predisposed to love Ronald Reagan go
into it wanting to like the film and come out
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of it. I think with that general feeling, where on
that spectrum do you feel this film is? And then
kind of a second part of that question, why then
do you think this film was made?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, it's certainly favorable toward its subject matter. I think
history is also favorable towards subject matter. I don't think
that's a huge debate issue. I mean, he did consequential
things and was beloved, and I think the polls show
it and the voting showed it. So I think that's
where we stand with the film. I'd be lying if
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I said, oh, it's a neutral No. Clearly the filmmakers
had a very positive view of Reagan and it shows
in the film. Now, why they made it well because
he is a consequential figure, because he deserves to be
on the big screen, and that seems like a no brainer.
But I think if you left it up to Hollywood,
they would either ignore him or do things like There
was a Showtime series I guess it was originally made
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for CBS called The Reagans, with I believe James Poland
in the main role, and there was a lot of
controversy about that. There were scenes in there that Reagan
fans thought were really unfair, and at a time, it
was punted over to Showtime because CBS and Showtime were
still one of the same I guess at the corporate level,
and they figured it would be less dramatic, no less
problematic to have it there than on CBS. So that's
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what you get. I mean, this is a major figure
in our lives who deserves to be on the big screen.
And then you could argue whether the film is good
or not. You could argue what approach you take. Now.
This new film I thought was too broad in its presentation.
I think it should have been much more focused. I
think added more clarity and more more detail to Reagan's
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life and what he did behind the scenes. I think
that that was needed. That's one of my critiques of
the film. But yeah, this is someone who deserves to
be on the big screen. You know there maybe in
ten twenty years we'll see a Clinton movie or you know,
other figures from that we live through, and you know,
enough time has passed where I think the it's the
right moment to share his story.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I need to see the Bill Clinton biopic whenever that
comes out. Kristin Tota. You can find his review at
Hollywood Intoto dot com on this film and many others,
and don't forget to subscribe, download listen to his podcast
entitled Hollywood in Toto.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And that brings us to another film in theaters Reagan.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You can probably still see in many major theaters across
the country. This one, I think is gaining steam. I
saw it last weekend. Matt Walsh with The Daily Wire.
Am I racist?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Now?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
This is the follow up to What Is a Woman?
And it is just as provocative.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
To be clear, what's happening in this country. It's a Nazism.
Republicans are Nazis. You cannot separate yourselves from the bad
white people.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Growing up in the nineties, I never thought much about race.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I'm sure you noticed, but never really seemed to matter
that much, at least not for me.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Being a white, straight cisgender man. It's to the top
of the pile.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I'm on the top of the pile. That's me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Am I racist. I would really appreciate it if you left.
I'm trying to learn long this jurney.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Do you please leave?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm going to sort this out. I need to go
deeper undercover. If I want to be an ally, I
need to look like one. What is racism? Hard user?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
King said, not to judge people buy that was the
King said, A lot of stuff with America inherently racist?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The word inherent is challenging there? America is racist. To
expose all of them, yea.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
The entire system has to burn. And I'm not going
to even use save this country. This country is not
worth saving. This country is a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh sorry, sorry, they.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Joining us down?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Is that sortify? D EI expert?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
There's my certification.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Where are you guys on your anti racist journeys.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We'll look around the room and.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Point to who we believe is the most racist person
in the room. If I have a renamed the George
Washington Monument to the George Flood Monument.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
If your mind signing it?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
If you will, What do you think about this issue
of heteronormativity and then how it intersects with the broader
structures of racism in society.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
We'll talk with white people.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
What are you doing the the center of your whiteness?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Who's making it the center? Why are you doing that?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
What you're doing as you're stretching, I would love your
whiteness listen more for you in.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This field.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
White folks, white brash, white supremacy, white woman, white boy,
white entitlement centering white islands.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is there a black person around her? Black person right here?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Does he not exist?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The Hi? Robin Hi? And what's your name? Was?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I just had to ask me you are? Because yeah,
we'll be careful read too careful.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Another Matt Walsh vehicle. Am I racist? Daily wire?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Behind the production of this in theaters? Now?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The last time I spoke with you, Christian, you had
to keep it on the download your review. Now that's
up for public consumption. Take us through it.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, I think I think that trailer is spot on
in both being making it curious to see the movie
and also really kind of conveys what the movie is
all about. And what Matt Walsh does so brilliantly is
he doesn't attack people with different iteologies. He lets him speak,
and in doing so, I think it's very revealing what
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they have to say shocking times as well. But I
think the secret behind the movie and behind his two
future films so far is that at Wallash is the
driest person you could see on a movie three and
he's also extremely funny. His sense of timing is his
ability to think on the fly. This is a documentary
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project where it's a bit of a Borat like situation.
They're they're pulling the wool over people's eyes for a point,
and of course his point is to show people what
THEI is truly all about, and it does a spectacular
job of that. But I think the whole purpose here
is that it's very funny. I laughed a lot in
the film. There was one scene towards the end that
I was just howling at and just the fact that
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we don't get a lot of big broad comedies these days.
There's a documentary, so it's not in the typical format
looking at will feral, but it's a very funny film,
but it has a perspective, it has a point. Some
people may wildly disagree with the point, but it is
fascinating that they're not, you know, selectively editing people. This
is what they think, that the proponents of this ideology,
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and it's exposing it. And I think for some people
who have not been exposed to or see a media
sanitized version, it will be sunning.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
A lot of this is sunlight is the best disinfectant,
and you just let somebody speak for themselves and they
can incriminate themselves without really being confronted. And it's Matt
Walsh simply holding up a mirror to this person and
then they have to find out who they really are.
And that's what stood out to me Christian watching this film,
I found it fascinating and I thought it was the
equal of what is a woman because of the subjects
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involved and how self absorbed they were and how important
they thought they were. Whether it was Syrah rowt her
dinners for white suburban ladies and telling them they're racist
inherently because they have white skin, or Robin DiAngelo, which
was kind of the big fish in this film that
he caught that he sat down with Toward the end,
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there's a scene.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I don't want to spoil it.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It might be the one you're saying that you're laughing at,
but it's absolutely incredible. Robin DiAngelo, the author of White Fragility,
exposes this whole griff for what it is in the
wake of the George Floyd death and the riots the
protes that were nationwide at the time. I mean, you
want to make hay while the sun shining. Ramen D'Angelo
certainly did that. But what was your biggest takeaway from
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the subjects as they were portrayed. I guess as they
portrayed themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I mean there's there's two angles here. One the
DEI experts, uh the words in a way where it's felt.
I mean, the trailer shows that women saying, you know,
Republicans are racists and Nazis. I mean, that's that's really
a terrible thing to say about roughly half the country.
I think we're pretty split down the middle as far
as politics are concerned, and to just dismiss people is bigoted.
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It's just outright bigoted. There are Republicans who are racist,
and they Republicans who are saintly. I mean, you know
that's the way life works, and so you know, to
come up with that kind of language, is this awful?
But I think the chilling part of it is that
you see see people who are trying to absorb these
lessons and as a reaction late in the film, which
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was both hysterical and killing and I'm not going to
share it, but you know, some people buy into this.
That's the real shocking thing. I mean, there are people
who are kind hearted, who are trying to deal with
racism in the twenty first century, and they're buying into
this narrative, which I just think is wildly destructive. I
genuinely do, and you could secrete me. But you know,
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one quick point, there's no one reviewing this movie. There's
I think six or seven reviews are rotten Tomatoes from
the official approved critics. On one of them. You know
you're not going to see New York Times, n N,
Washington Post. No one is touching this movie. And I'd
be really interested to see what they say about it.
I think they will eventually. I think it'll become too
big to ignore, But right now they're trying to ignore it.
They're hoping it goes away.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Kind of following up on that point to close out
our thoughts on Am I Racist? By Matt Walsh and
Daily Wire, Christian Toto our guest. As he mentioned, he's
one of just seven official professional critic reviews of this
film on Rotten Tomatoes, where they don't have enough to
establish a rating for it from critics. Audiences are giving
it a ninety nine on the popcorn meter for Rotten Tomatoes.
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The only reviewer of note that I see here other
than Christian of course, he just tops of the list.
But Wade Major from Film Week. That's NPR Los Angeles.
So I can't imagine this guy's right of center. But
he says this, you're not getting anywhere on the subject.
But it's funny. But is he making his point? I
think he's too divisive a figure to be persuasive. Even
that is an inherent bias Christian. It's not whether he's
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a divisive figure. Is this is what he's presenting. And
in that character, as we see Christian, he totally goes
for it, immerses himself in that DEI character, makes fun
of it by being it, and it's not really Matt
Walsh's commentary at that time.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
That's a great point. I have to give that film
critical the credit just for engaging with it, for giving
it a positive review, for acknowledging the fact that it
is just genuinely very funny. But it's a weird thing
to say. It's a weird flex that you know he's
too to carry the message when when you watch the
movie in the event and I guess this is a
spoiler in a way, but you know you see it
in the trailer. He is undercover as a DEI expert.
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He drags about he got his DEI credentials. He's not
attacking this methodology. He's not. He's saying, I'm on a
journey to decolonize my raceist my inner racist. I mean
he is, as he is preaching to Dei choir, akin
to Robin DiAngelo. So why would you say he's being
you know, you can't get the lesson from him. And
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but that's something we can discuss. We can be adults
and say I don't think it's effective. I think it's effective,
I think it's funny.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
It's not funny.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Let's have those conversations. But to have the vast majority
of film critics say I'm out, well, that speaks fines.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Well, he's in Christian Toto and you can read his
review at Hollywood intoto dot com. Am I Racist, Matt
Walsh one other film I wanted to get your thoughts on.
It's coming to theaters some theaters select theaters on Friday,
September twenty seventh from densh De SUSA, his latest vindicating Trump.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Somebody has to help this country and if they don't,
the country and the world are in big trouble. Someone's
got to overturn the tables in the temple.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
She's a bit worried of the apprentice guy do another
feeling the power.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You can't handle it in a wood at the vowel power.
They fear that power.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
You didn't do an insurrection, had you called for one,
that would have been one, and there would be one
which you called for one.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Now I'm not sure I want that power.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I want the power just to make the country better
America first.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
And that scares them a lot about Donald Trump's scarsome.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Let's look at everything campaign is family. Let's get foreign
eyes on him. We have one target. You know who
he is.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Going after their companies, their families.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That is a dictator at the very dangerous time for
a country.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
The goal is to put him in jail because they're
so afraid of his voice.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I am your head, little bury, so deep and legal,
little bankrupt broke got him in.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Jail right before the election. That's hard for being that guy.
But is that election interference? It's not interference if we
do it.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We just went a free and fair election. Sounds expensive ballots,
ain't cheat? Wait wait, wait, did you actually say the
word buy the ballots?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
We were able to purchase ten thousand ballots.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They cheated in many different ways. That's all they're good at.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Ray save democracy.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
We need it.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Stopped them permanently, and that person will be risking his life.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
To be is not the six season right, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
The way you survived.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Must get me a.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Trump has beaten back every attack against.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We're going to fix our borders and we're going to
fix our elections.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Was going to win. It's my legacy indicating Trump. The
mess is yet to come. Only in theater se September
twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Now, I like Michael Moore on the left, this is
agenda driven documentary work from Dinesh de Susa on the right.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
He admitted as much too.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Maybe as we go back to two Thousand Mules or
as most recent Police State. I've watched both of them, Christian,
this one vindicating Trump. It is designed, but Dens told
me himself to kind of clear Trump's name and clarify
where he's coming from.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What do you anticipate in this film?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You know, I thought that Police State was probably one
of his more intriguing projects, because, as you said, this
is an unabashably right of center filmmaker who makes movies
that are unapassably right of center. And I think you
really do chase away a lot of people with that approach,
and that just is what it is. I think Michael
Moore does it as well from the left. I don't
want to get into two thousand Mules is a very
complicated story, and I've got some reservations about it, but
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i also thought it was fascinating. But you know, as
far as this, it's really preaching to the choir. I
do think there's an audience for it. I think it'd
be much smaller. It seems to be getting smaller, though
he still draws a crowd for a documentary filmmaker. But
you know, I think these are like cinematic op eds
in a way. I think that what am I raised
this does is by deploying humor in such an effective fashion,
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and it really does not kind of tear down our thoughts,
our defenses, our preconceptions. I don't think this is capable
of that. I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to
be watching it soon, so you know, I don't know
the impact that I think that AMI Racist is much
more of a culture war smart Bomber Away as opposed
to this, but you know, he's allowed to make these films.
There are people who are frustrated with the way Trump
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has been treated. I'm pretty critical of Trump, and I
feel the exact same way. But I would ask people
to go revisit Police State because I think it really
is a shocking movie in what it uncovers and what
the dots it connects. I thought that was consequential and
I wish more people had checked it out.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Moral of the story the conservative films they are getting made,
whether it's Reagan, am I Racist? Or this one vindicating
Trump coming to theaters on Friday, September twenty seventh. I'll
be watching it with Christian this week and looking forward
to that. Be sure to download and listen to his
podcast as well as go to his website same title,
both place as Hollywood in Toto Hollywood Intoto dot com.
Christian Toto, thank you as always for your time, my friend,
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oh my pleasure. Angie, thank you so much for taking
the time.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
To join us. Hi, Ryan, thank you me absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Now, people are going to be maybe a little bit
confused by the title, but there's an underlying meaning to it.
What do you mean by don't train your dog?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yes, I mean that people are getting caught in this trap.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Doll.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Parents are getting caught in this trap of typical dog training,
which either emphasizes overly harsh or overly permissive. And it's
basically these tricks for treats that they're teaching instead of
actually family skilled that dogs actually need to live in
our modern home environment. So concentrating on training is the mistake.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Now, I don't want to call my sister out for
making a mistake because her dog, Bella is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I call it a Labratsu.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It's a mix literally of a Labrador, a Rottweiler, and
a Shitsue, and it's very smart.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Bella.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
She's wonderful, she's sweet, but she's entirely motivated by food.
To your point, my sister taught her all kinds of
tricks and how to be behave. But it's like you
just said, kind of the Halloween theme tricks for treats,
and Bella is only motivated by food. So what should
my sister maybe have done differently in her approach.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Well, when you focus just on food. Now, to be clear,
I use treats, and I use them to enhance behaviors
and to reward for behaviors. They're not the only thing
that you can use because if you're focusing on this
food entitlement all the time, the dogs are really just
looking at your hands. They're not looking at your eyes
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for the communication. And when it comes to actually guidance,
like hey, don't run out this door. We can't do
that every time the door opens during family life. They
don't get that just because they got a treat for
setting back behind the door one time or two times.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know, the.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Relationship is missing, the relationship with the human that says
don't run out the door because it's against the safety rules.
That's one of the number one rules. And yeah, and
they they that stuff wears all fast too, even as
food driven dog.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Don't train your dog in the subhead is a pet
parenting guide to teaching good behavior, calming fear, and raising
happy dogs.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Angie.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Winter's joining us to help us in this endeavor, Angie,
A lot of people's minds are going to go to
Caesar Milan, the dog Whisper kind of his tactics.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And techniques for trying to train troubled dogs as.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You put them, maybe some people might view them as
unfixable dogs.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What do you make of his approach? What are the
pros and cons of it?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Well, there are definitely pros and cons of it. In
my opinion, what he is teaching and putting out there
is definitely more effective in a lot of ways than
just focusing on distractions and treats only. I'm really more
about the emotional entanglement and tapping into that rather than
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just working from a psychological standpoint. We don't want to
inflict fear because a lot of it is people are
thinking the typical dog training mindset is fear in equals
reaction out, or food and equals reaction out instead of
without really having that relationship, and dogs are so emotionally
entwined with us. That when you're using something like just
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psychology or just food, you're missing and that using that
relationship to communicate, and it's the most effective way of communicating.
I tell people, for example, you know when a tennis
ball get stuck under the tuton within two seconds, are
dogs looking at you like, help me do this? That's
the entanglement that we already have and they're born with that.
So dogs are using that to communicate with us, but
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we're not using it to communicate with them.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Angie Winters, our guest.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You can find her book on Amazon and other major
book platforms.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Don't Train Your Dog.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We're talking about the process of building that relationship with
a dog. And I like where you're going with this, Angie,
because there's definitely that level to it, and most people
can feel that connection with their dogs and building that
is so important. And you've used this to save over
a thousand unfixable dogs. What would you say is kind
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of center to the core of that approach.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
The center is and the reason why I'm comfortable calling
it parenting is because my definition of parenting is providing love, support,
and guidance to vulnerable members of a family. I don't
think they're human children, but they're still a family member
who needs love, support and guidance. And your guidance is
the key. And what my book teaches is the how
to hit on what I call the parenting sweet spots,
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So not too harsh, not too permissive. It's the sweet
spot where you're communicating via your your looks and your
relationship and your emotional entanglement to teach no, we can't
do that, that's not allowed, but yes, this is what
you can do. Here's the substitution behavior that For dogs,
it's an incomplete teaching moment to just say no, you're
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not allowed to do this, with the providing.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Me yees, now, Angie. Every dog is different.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
They're like snowflakes, but also varying in terms of breeds,
generally speaking, what their characteristics will be, whether they're more
playful or more sedentary, whether they're more loving or perhaps
a little bit more distant.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
How do you adjust for breed in all of this,
if at all so?
Speaker 6 (23:23):
My recipes I have recipes that are parental recipes of
working like how to teach certain things, and they're very
simple recipes and they work on all dogs. No matter
what breed, age, previous trauma, anything, because by working with
the worst of the worst dogs over and over, now,
working what a parent would think is a bad dog
for a lack of a better term, is not even
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that hard to me. It's actually very easy, and the
book makes it easy for them. Where breed comes into
play is where you get to the fulfillment part. So
dogs cannot be happy without being fulfilled, and they cannot
be well behaved without being so there's a whole section
on there about fulfillment, and that's when the breed comes
into play. So just you pay attention to what things
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they like to do, if they're heard, or you replicate that.
If they're a hunter, you replicate that for them, so
they can have that fulfilled. But as far as the
guidance recipes go, it doesn't matter the breed.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
One of the hang ups that I have I'm a
dog lover.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
It's one of the reasons I reached out to you
are so excited to talk to you, Angie, is that
some of us, a lot of us live in urban
or suburban settings.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
There's not enough space that I would.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Like to have ideally for a dog, and the time
commitment as well, I would like to spend a lot
more time with my dog than my commitment at hurt
work here might allow. I know there are places like
doggy daycarees and stuff, but they're going to have their
own kind of rules and how they handle a dog,
and that could be very different from your approach or
what I might be comfortable with. What do you recommend
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for people that might be a little hesitant to get
into this relationship with a dog, thinking that they don't
have enough time or emotion to devote to it.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Well, what's amazing about Don't Tain your Dog and the
recipes and prescriptions in there that prescriptions that fix fear
or aggression, and the recipes that teach could behavior and
fulfilled dogs. The best thing about that is it's incredibly easy.
It just happens automatically and so quickly. The reason why
people think it's so hard and they aren't getting results
because they keep trying this typical dog training, which is
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just twenty five repetitions of this, twenty five repetations of this,
and it's not working, so they think it's hard. But
these relationships recipes in the book make it so easy,
and dogs live in the moment and they live their
everyday environments and their family are what's everything to them.
So when they're in your home environment, they will snap
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right to the same recipes and the family rules that
are allowed in there. They don't forget them because they
go out somewhere to daycare. Now they might be a little,
you know, tired, which might be good if they go out,
or they might be a little ramped up because they
didn't have the same structure there. But as soon as
you get back and you have this knowledge, you get
back to your home, and because you have the knowledge
in this book, you feel perfectly confident about it. You
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can relax. You don't have to panic that you're not
going to be able to get them under control. It
just flows with everyday life. And so that was one
of the hardest parts because I've been working on this
for twenty eight years. So it's just now that society
has come around to where they're they're understanding that the
typical dog trinking doesn't work, and so now it's meeting
the time right when the book is coming out, which
is a good thing. But it's just much easier than
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anybody thinks. It's not that hard.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's not that hard and she makes it easier by
getting out in front of the curve. This kind of
defies what conventional logic might be, but it makes sense
the way that she explains it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
And once again you can find it on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
The title of the book, Don't Train Your Dog, A
Pet Parenting Guide to teaching good behavior, calming fear, and
raising happy Dogs. Its author Angie Winter's our guest, Angie,
thank you so much, so much great information.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
We appreciate your time and have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Thank you so much, Angie Winter's the author. There your
thoughts on what you think good dog parenting means? You've
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Speaker 2 (27:16):
How five seven seven three nine. That's the text line.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Really pleased to be joined in that previous segment by
Josh Laffazan.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I've seen him on News Nation. He's been on with
Dan Abrams and others.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
A level headed democrat that seems like Anaxi moron, but
he really does get it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I mean he said it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
He had to win in a Republican leaning district, not once,
not twice, but thrice.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
One of my favorite words.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And he was a strong candidate against Tom Sawose for
the Democratic nomination to supplant George Santos, who was of
course removed from office in the third District of New York.
So interested to hear his thoughts. He's a bit younger,
but thirty now. And these gen Z mails, Kelly knows
one of them, she's raising one or has rais. I
(28:00):
guess past tense. He's an adult now doing his own
thing in Trevor and Kelly, you're telling me this guy's
going around red pill.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And everybody he has. He's amazing, that's great.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
He has friend pilled Hailey, Yeah, my daughter, and he
has red pilled his girlfriend Addie, so it's a good thing.
And he has red pale, red pilled his older his
roommate from freshman year at a s U.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Did his roommate play football over the sun doubles?
Speaker 7 (28:34):
No, he tried to walk on. He actually did not
make it. But he's doing the what do you call it,
the inner mural?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, trying to stick around. I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But his friend is a young black man. He's been
trumpefied that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
He voted for Trump.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I'm telling you, you know, it's very strange.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I mean, you love Trevor so well, of course wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But on that note, I think it might be by
proportion black men abandoning the Democratic Party and Kamala Harris
and coming to support Donald Trump that might rescue this nation.
After all, we'll take this time out here on six
point thirty k Houn
You heard Dennis Quaid there portraying Ronald Reagan in the
film Reagan. Penelope Anne Miller as Nancy Reagan also prominently
featured in this film. You heard the music the callback
there to an eighties anthem by Tears for Fears. Everybody
Wants to Rule the World. Ryan Schuling with you, and
Christian Toto joins me. You can find out more about
him at Hollywood Intoto dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Christian, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I know we've discussed at length Reagan, but I felt
it was worth revisiting because what I continue to see
from the mainstream media, or rather don't see, and that
is the discrepancy in the Tomato meter between that number
and the popcorn meter. At rotntomatoes dot com, seventeen percent
of critics approve of the film, ninety eight percent of audiences,
and the consensus critic review reads as follows. While Reagan,
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the movie undoubtedly admires Reagan, the man is cloying and
glossy rendering of history flattens the fortieth US president into caricature.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Christian, what say you, well, I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Agree with that. I think the film certainly has its
flaws but I mean, I think that gap is really
indicative of where this situation is right now with critics
and the public. The vast, vast majority of critics lean
to the left, and that's no crime. They can lean
any they wish, but they let it influence their reviews.
And I've said so many times. If I'm reading The
(01:18):
Nation or The New Republic and there's a film critic
in the pages or cyber pages, it's perfectly fine that
they lean to the left. That's basically what the audience expects.
But you know, we're talking about critics from CNN or
Washington Post or New York Times or all places where
they're supposed to be a political, non partisan, you name it,
and that's just the way they think. So if it's
(01:40):
a movie that's a hagiography about Obama or PG or
other you know, liberal darlings, then it's going to dramatically
impact their reviews.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Christian.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
When we think about the genre of kind of an
autobiography documentary, there are three approaches I think we've seen
in the past, and particularly when it comes to political figures,
and that is kind of an antipathy toward the subject
in which it is revealing something that is not flattering
about the individual.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
There is a neutral objective of.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Documentary that basically covers it as is, does not reflect
or inject opinion into the matter, but rather lets the
audience judge for themselves. And there's the favorable kind of approach,
which I think is what we get here in this
version of Reagan that is meant for audiences like you
and me that are predisposed to love Ronald Reagan go
into it wanting to like the film and come out
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of it. I think with that general feeling, where on
that spectrum do you feel this film is? And then
kind of a second part of that question, why then
do you think this film was made?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, it's certainly favorable toward its subject matter. I think
history is also favorable towards subject matter. I don't think
that's a huge debate issue. I mean, he did consequential
things and was beloved, and I think the polls show
it and the voting showed it. So I think that's
where we stand with the film. I'd be lying if
(03:01):
I said, oh, it's a neutral No. Clearly the filmmakers
had a very positive view of Reagan and it shows
in the film. Now, why they made it well because
he is a consequential figure, because he deserves to be
on the big screen, and that seems like a no brainer.
But I think if you left it up to Hollywood,
they would either ignore him or do things like There
was a Showtime series I guess it was originally made
(03:22):
for CBS called The Reagans, with I believe James Poland
in the main role, and there was a lot of
controversy about that. There were scenes in there that Reagan
fans thought were really unfair, and at a time, it
was punted over to Showtime because CBS and Showtime were
still one of the same I guess at the corporate level,
and they figured it would be less dramatic, no less
problematic to have it there than on CBS. So that's
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what you get. I mean, this is a major figure
in our lives who deserves to be on the big screen.
And then you could argue whether the film is good
or not. You could argue what approach you take. Now.
This new film I thought was too broad in its presentation.
I think it should have been much more focused. I
think added more clarity and more more detail to Reagan's
(04:05):
life and what he did behind the scenes. I think
that that was needed. That's one of my critiques of
the film. But yeah, this is someone who deserves to
be on the big screen. You know there maybe in
ten twenty years we'll see a Clinton movie or you know,
other figures from that we live through, and you know,
enough time has passed where I think the it's the
right moment to share his story.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I need to see the Bill Clinton biopic whenever that
comes out. Kristin Tota. You can find his review at
Hollywood Intoto dot com on this film and many others,
and don't forget to subscribe, download listen to his podcast
entitled Hollywood in Toto.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
And that brings us to another film in theaters Reagan.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You can probably still see in many major theaters across
the country. This one, I think is gaining steam. I
saw it last weekend. Matt Walsh with The Daily Wire.
Am I racist?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Now?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
This is the follow up to What Is a Woman?
And it is just as provocative.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
To be clear, what's happening in this country. It's a Nazism.
Republicans are Nazis. You cannot separate yourselves from the bad
white people.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Growing up in the nineties, I never thought much about race.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I'm sure you noticed, but never really seemed to matter
that much, at least not for me.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Being a white, straight cisgender man. It's to the top
of the pile.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I'm on the top of the pile. That's me.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Am I racist. I would really appreciate it if you left.
I'm trying to learn long this jurney.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Do you please leave?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm going to sort this out. I need to go
deeper undercover. If I want to be an ally, I
need to look like one. What is racism? Hard user?
Speaker 5 (05:39):
King said, not to judge people buy that was the
King said, A lot of stuff with America inherently racist?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
What the hell is that?
Speaker 2 (05:45):
The word inherent is challenging there? America is racist. To
expose all of them, yea.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
The entire system has to burn. And I'm not going
to even use save this country. This country is not
worth saving. This country is a piece of shit.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh sorry, sorry, they.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Joining us down?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Is that sortify? D EI expert?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
There's my certification.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Where are you guys on your anti racist journeys.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
We'll look around the room and.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Point to who we believe is the most racist person
in the room. If I have a renamed the George
Washington Monument to the George Flood Monument.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
If your mind signing it?
Speaker 5 (06:22):
If you will, What do you think about this issue
of heteronormativity and then how it intersects with the broader
structures of racism in society.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
We'll talk with white people.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
What are you doing the the center of your whiteness?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Who's making it the center? Why are you doing that?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
What you're doing as you're stretching, I would love your
whiteness listen more for you in.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This field.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
White folks, white brash, white supremacy, white woman, white boy,
white entitlement centering white islands.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Is there a black person around her? Black person right here?
Speaker 5 (06:53):
Does he not exist?
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The Hi? Robin Hi? And what's your name? Was?
Speaker 2 (07:01):
I just had to ask me you are? Because yeah,
we'll be careful read too careful.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Another Matt Walsh vehicle. Am I racist? Daily wire?
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Behind the production of this in theaters? Now?
Speaker 1 (07:22):
The last time I spoke with you, Christian, you had
to keep it on the download your review. Now that's
up for public consumption. Take us through it.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Yeah, I think I think that trailer is spot on
in both being making it curious to see the movie
and also really kind of conveys what the movie is
all about. And what Matt Walsh does so brilliantly is
he doesn't attack people with different iteologies. He lets him speak,
and in doing so, I think it's very revealing what
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they have to say shocking times as well. But I
think the secret behind the movie and behind his two
future films so far is that at Wallash is the
driest person you could see on a movie three and
he's also extremely funny. His sense of timing is his
ability to think on the fly. This is a documentary
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project where it's a bit of a Borat like situation.
They're they're pulling the wool over people's eyes for a point,
and of course his point is to show people what
THEI is truly all about, and it does a spectacular
job of that. But I think the whole purpose here
is that it's very funny. I laughed a lot in
the film. There was one scene towards the end that
I was just howling at and just the fact that
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we don't get a lot of big broad comedies these days.
There's a documentary, so it's not in the typical format
looking at will feral, but it's a very funny film,
but it has a perspective, it has a point. Some
people may wildly disagree with the point, but it is
fascinating that they're not, you know, selectively editing people. This
is what they think, that the proponents of this ideology,
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and it's exposing it. And I think for some people
who have not been exposed to or see a media
sanitized version, it will be sunning.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
A lot of this is sunlight is the best disinfectant,
and you just let somebody speak for themselves and they
can incriminate themselves without really being confronted. And it's Matt
Walsh simply holding up a mirror to this person and
then they have to find out who they really are.
And that's what stood out to me Christian watching this film,
I found it fascinating and I thought it was the
equal of what is a woman because of the subjects
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involved and how self absorbed they were and how important
they thought they were. Whether it was Syrah rowt her
dinners for white suburban ladies and telling them they're racist
inherently because they have white skin, or Robin DiAngelo, which
was kind of the big fish in this film that
he caught that he sat down with Toward the end,
(09:44):
there's a scene.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
I don't want to spoil it.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
It might be the one you're saying that you're laughing at,
but it's absolutely incredible. Robin DiAngelo, the author of White Fragility,
exposes this whole griff for what it is in the
wake of the George Floyd death and the riots the
protes that were nationwide at the time. I mean, you
want to make hay while the sun shining. Ramen D'Angelo
certainly did that. But what was your biggest takeaway from
(10:08):
the subjects as they were portrayed. I guess as they
portrayed themselves.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I mean there's there's two angles here. One the
DEI experts, uh the words in a way where it's felt.
I mean, the trailer shows that women saying, you know,
Republicans are racists and Nazis. I mean, that's that's really
a terrible thing to say about roughly half the country.
I think we're pretty split down the middle as far
as politics are concerned, and to just dismiss people is bigoted.
(10:36):
It's just outright bigoted. There are Republicans who are racist,
and they Republicans who are saintly. I mean, you know
that's the way life works, and so you know, to
come up with that kind of language, is this awful?
But I think the chilling part of it is that
you see see people who are trying to absorb these
lessons and as a reaction late in the film, which
(10:58):
was both hysterical and killing and I'm not going to
share it, but you know, some people buy into this.
That's the real shocking thing. I mean, there are people
who are kind hearted, who are trying to deal with
racism in the twenty first century, and they're buying into
this narrative, which I just think is wildly destructive. I
genuinely do, and you could secrete me. But you know,
(11:21):
one quick point, there's no one reviewing this movie. There's
I think six or seven reviews are rotten Tomatoes from
the official approved critics. On one of them. You know
you're not going to see New York Times, n N,
Washington Post. No one is touching this movie. And I'd
be really interested to see what they say about it.
I think they will eventually. I think it'll become too
big to ignore, But right now they're trying to ignore it.
They're hoping it goes away.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Kind of following up on that point to close out
our thoughts on Am I Racist? By Matt Walsh and
Daily Wire, Christian Toto our guest. As he mentioned, he's
one of just seven official professional critic reviews of this
film on Rotten Tomatoes, where they don't have enough to
establish a rating for it from critics. Audiences are giving
it a ninety nine on the popcorn meter for Rotten Tomatoes.
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The only reviewer of note that I see here other
than Christian of course, he just tops of the list.
But Wade Major from Film Week. That's NPR Los Angeles.
So I can't imagine this guy's right of center. But
he says this, you're not getting anywhere on the subject.
But it's funny. But is he making his point? I
think he's too divisive a figure to be persuasive. Even
that is an inherent bias Christian. It's not whether he's
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a divisive figure. Is this is what he's presenting. And
in that character, as we see Christian, he totally goes
for it, immerses himself in that DEI character, makes fun
of it by being it, and it's not really Matt
Walsh's commentary at that time.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
That's a great point. I have to give that film
critical the credit just for engaging with it, for giving
it a positive review, for acknowledging the fact that it
is just genuinely very funny. But it's a weird thing
to say. It's a weird flex that you know he's
too to carry the message when when you watch the
movie in the event and I guess this is a
spoiler in a way, but you know you see it
in the trailer. He is undercover as a DEI expert.
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He drags about he got his DEI credentials. He's not
attacking this methodology. He's not. He's saying, I'm on a
journey to decolonize my raceist my inner racist. I mean
he is, as he is preaching to Dei choir, akin
to Robin DiAngelo. So why would you say he's being
you know, you can't get the lesson from him. And
(13:27):
but that's something we can discuss. We can be adults
and say I don't think it's effective. I think it's effective,
I think it's funny.
Speaker 6 (13:32):
It's not funny.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Let's have those conversations. But to have the vast majority
of film critics say I'm out, well, that speaks fines.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Well, he's in Christian Toto and you can read his
review at Hollywood intoto dot com. Am I Racist, Matt
Walsh one other film I wanted to get your thoughts on.
It's coming to theaters some theaters select theaters on Friday,
September twenty seventh from densh De SUSA, his latest vindicating Trump.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Somebody has to help this country and if they don't,
the country and the world are in big trouble. Someone's
got to overturn the tables in the temple.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Trump jumping into the presidential race.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
She's a bit worried of the apprentice guy do another
feeling the power.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
You can't handle it in a wood at the vowel power.
They fear that power.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
You didn't do an insurrection, had you called for one,
that would have been one, and there would be one
which you called for one.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Now I'm not sure I want that power.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
I want the power just to make the country better
America first.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
And that scares them a lot about Donald Trump's scarsome.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Let's look at everything campaign is family. Let's get foreign
eyes on him. We have one target. You know who
he is.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Going after their companies, their families.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
That is a dictator at the very dangerous time for
a country.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
The goal is to put him in jail because they're
so afraid of his voice.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
I am your head, little bury, so deep and legal,
little bankrupt broke got him in.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Jail right before the election. That's hard for being that guy.
But is that election interference? It's not interference if we
do it.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
We just went a free and fair election. Sounds expensive ballots,
ain't cheat? Wait wait, wait, did you actually say the
word buy the ballots?
Speaker 5 (15:11):
We were able to purchase ten thousand ballots.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
That's terrifying.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
They cheated in many different ways. That's all they're good at.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Ray save democracy.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
We need it.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Stopped them permanently, and that person will be risking his life.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
To be is not the six season right, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
The way you survived.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Must get me a.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Trump has beaten back every attack against.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
We're going to fix our borders and we're going to
fix our elections.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Was going to win. It's my legacy indicating Trump. The
mess is yet to come. Only in theater se September
twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Now, I like Michael Moore on the left, this is
agenda driven documentary work from Dinesh de Susa on the right.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
He admitted as much too.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Maybe as we go back to two Thousand Mules or
as most recent Police State. I've watched both of them, Christian,
this one vindicating Trump. It is designed, but Dens told
me himself to kind of clear Trump's name and clarify
where he's coming from.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
What do you anticipate in this film?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
You know, I thought that Police State was probably one
of his more intriguing projects, because, as you said, this
is an unabashably right of center filmmaker who makes movies
that are unapassably right of center. And I think you
really do chase away a lot of people with that approach,
and that just is what it is. I think Michael
Moore does it as well from the left. I don't
want to get into two thousand Mules is a very
complicated story, and I've got some reservations about it, but
(16:32):
i also thought it was fascinating. But you know, as
far as this, it's really preaching to the choir. I
do think there's an audience for it. I think it'd
be much smaller. It seems to be getting smaller, though
he still draws a crowd for a documentary filmmaker. But
you know, I think these are like cinematic op eds
in a way. I think that what am I raised
this does is by deploying humor in such an effective fashion,
(16:54):
and it really does not kind of tear down our thoughts,
our defenses, our preconceptions. I don't think this is capable
of that. I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to
be watching it soon, so you know, I don't know
the impact that I think that AMI Racist is much
more of a culture war smart Bomber Away as opposed
to this, but you know, he's allowed to make these films.
There are people who are frustrated with the way Trump
(17:15):
has been treated. I'm pretty critical of Trump, and I
feel the exact same way. But I would ask people
to go revisit Police State because I think it really
is a shocking movie in what it uncovers and what
the dots it connects. I thought that was consequential and
I wish more people had checked it out.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Moral of the story the conservative films they are getting made,
whether it's Reagan, am I Racist? Or this one vindicating
Trump coming to theaters on Friday, September twenty seventh. I'll
be watching it with Christian this week and looking forward
to that. Be sure to download and listen to his
podcast as well as go to his website same title,
both place as Hollywood in Toto Hollywood Intoto dot com.
Christian Toto, thank you as always for your time, my friend,
(17:55):
oh my pleasure. Angie, thank you so much for taking
the time.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
To join us. Hi, Ryan, thank you me absolutely.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Now, people are going to be maybe a little bit
confused by the title, but there's an underlying meaning to it.
What do you mean by don't train your dog?
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Yes, I mean that people are getting caught in this trap.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Doll.
Speaker 6 (18:16):
Parents are getting caught in this trap of typical dog training,
which either emphasizes overly harsh or overly permissive. And it's
basically these tricks for treats that they're teaching instead of
actually family skilled that dogs actually need to live in
our modern home environment. So concentrating on training is the mistake.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Now, I don't want to call my sister out for
making a mistake because her dog, Bella is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I call it a Labratsu.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It's a mix literally of a Labrador, a Rottweiler, and
a Shitsue, and it's very smart.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Bella.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
She's wonderful, she's sweet, but she's entirely motivated by food.
To your point, my sister taught her all kinds of
tricks and how to be behave. But it's like you
just said, kind of the Halloween theme tricks for treats,
and Bella is only motivated by food. So what should
my sister maybe have done differently in her approach.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
Well, when you focus just on food. Now, to be clear,
I use treats, and I use them to enhance behaviors
and to reward for behaviors. They're not the only thing
that you can use because if you're focusing on this
food entitlement all the time, the dogs are really just
looking at your hands. They're not looking at your eyes
(19:32):
for the communication. And when it comes to actually guidance,
like hey, don't run out this door. We can't do
that every time the door opens during family life. They
don't get that just because they got a treat for
setting back behind the door one time or two times.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
You know, the.
Speaker 6 (19:48):
Relationship is missing, the relationship with the human that says
don't run out the door because it's against the safety rules.
That's one of the number one rules. And yeah, and
they they that stuff wears all fast too, even as
food driven dog.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Don't train your dog in the subhead is a pet
parenting guide to teaching good behavior, calming fear, and raising
happy dogs.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Angie.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Winter's joining us to help us in this endeavor, Angie,
A lot of people's minds are going to go to
Caesar Milan, the dog Whisper kind of his tactics.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
And techniques for trying to train troubled dogs as.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
You put them, maybe some people might view them as
unfixable dogs.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
What do you make of his approach? What are the
pros and cons of it?
Speaker 6 (20:33):
Well, there are definitely pros and cons of it. In
my opinion, what he is teaching and putting out there
is definitely more effective in a lot of ways than
just focusing on distractions and treats only. I'm really more
about the emotional entanglement and tapping into that rather than
(20:55):
just working from a psychological standpoint. We don't want to
inflict fear because a lot of it is people are
thinking the typical dog training mindset is fear in equals
reaction out, or food and equals reaction out instead of
without really having that relationship, and dogs are so emotionally
entwined with us. That when you're using something like just
(21:19):
psychology or just food, you're missing and that using that
relationship to communicate, and it's the most effective way of communicating.
I tell people, for example, you know when a tennis
ball get stuck under the tuton within two seconds, are
dogs looking at you like, help me do this? That's
the entanglement that we already have and they're born with that.
So dogs are using that to communicate with us, but
(21:40):
we're not using it to communicate with them.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Angie Winters, our guest.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
You can find her book on Amazon and other major
book platforms.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Don't Train Your Dog.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
We're talking about the process of building that relationship with
a dog. And I like where you're going with this, Angie,
because there's definitely that level to it, and most people
can feel that connection with their dogs and building that
is so important. And you've used this to save over
a thousand unfixable dogs. What would you say is kind
(22:12):
of center to the core of that approach.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
The center is and the reason why I'm comfortable calling
it parenting is because my definition of parenting is providing love, support,
and guidance to vulnerable members of a family. I don't
think they're human children, but they're still a family member
who needs love, support and guidance. And your guidance is
the key. And what my book teaches is the how
to hit on what I call the parenting sweet spots,
(22:38):
So not too harsh, not too permissive. It's the sweet
spot where you're communicating via your your looks and your
relationship and your emotional entanglement to teach no, we can't
do that, that's not allowed, but yes, this is what
you can do. Here's the substitution behavior that For dogs,
it's an incomplete teaching moment to just say no, you're
(22:59):
not allowed to do this, with the providing.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Me yees, now, Angie. Every dog is different.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
They're like snowflakes, but also varying in terms of breeds,
generally speaking, what their characteristics will be, whether they're more
playful or more sedentary, whether they're more loving or perhaps
a little bit more distant.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
How do you adjust for breed in all of this,
if at all so?
Speaker 6 (23:23):
My recipes I have recipes that are parental recipes of
working like how to teach certain things, and they're very
simple recipes and they work on all dogs. No matter
what breed, age, previous trauma, anything, because by working with
the worst of the worst dogs over and over, now,
working what a parent would think is a bad dog
for a lack of a better term, is not even
(23:44):
that hard to me. It's actually very easy, and the
book makes it easy for them. Where breed comes into
play is where you get to the fulfillment part. So
dogs cannot be happy without being fulfilled, and they cannot
be well behaved without being so there's a whole section
on there about fulfillment, and that's when the breed comes
into play. So just you pay attention to what things
(24:06):
they like to do, if they're heard, or you replicate that.
If they're a hunter, you replicate that for them, so
they can have that fulfilled. But as far as the
guidance recipes go, it doesn't matter the breed.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
One of the hang ups that I have I'm a
dog lover.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
It's one of the reasons I reached out to you
are so excited to talk to you, Angie, is that
some of us, a lot of us live in urban
or suburban settings.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
There's not enough space that I would.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Like to have ideally for a dog, and the time
commitment as well, I would like to spend a lot
more time with my dog than my commitment at hurt
work here might allow. I know there are places like
doggy daycarees and stuff, but they're going to have their
own kind of rules and how they handle a dog,
and that could be very different from your approach or
what I might be comfortable with. What do you recommend
(24:50):
for people that might be a little hesitant to get
into this relationship with a dog, thinking that they don't
have enough time or emotion to devote to it.
Speaker 6 (24:59):
Well, what's amazing about Don't Tain your Dog and the
recipes and prescriptions in there that prescriptions that fix fear
or aggression, and the recipes that teach could behavior and
fulfilled dogs. The best thing about that is it's incredibly easy.
It just happens automatically and so quickly. The reason why
people think it's so hard and they aren't getting results
because they keep trying this typical dog training, which is
(25:20):
just twenty five repetitions of this, twenty five repetations of this,
and it's not working, so they think it's hard. But
these relationships recipes in the book make it so easy,
and dogs live in the moment and they live their
everyday environments and their family are what's everything to them.
So when they're in your home environment, they will snap
(25:41):
right to the same recipes and the family rules that
are allowed in there. They don't forget them because they
go out somewhere to daycare. Now they might be a little,
you know, tired, which might be good if they go out,
or they might be a little ramped up because they
didn't have the same structure there. But as soon as
you get back and you have this knowledge, you get
back to your home, and because you have the knowledge
in this book, you feel perfectly confident about it. You
(26:04):
can relax. You don't have to panic that you're not
going to be able to get them under control. It
just flows with everyday life. And so that was one
of the hardest parts because I've been working on this
for twenty eight years. So it's just now that society
has come around to where they're they're understanding that the
typical dog trinking doesn't work, and so now it's meeting
the time right when the book is coming out, which
is a good thing. But it's just much easier than
(26:26):
anybody thinks. It's not that hard.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's not that hard and she makes it easier by
getting out in front of the curve. This kind of
defies what conventional logic might be, but it makes sense
the way that she explains it.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
And once again you can find it on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
The title of the book, Don't Train Your Dog, A
Pet Parenting Guide to teaching good behavior, calming fear, and
raising happy Dogs. Its author Angie Winter's our guest, Angie,
thank you so much, so much great information.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
We appreciate your time and have a great weekend.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Thank you so much, Angie Winter's the author. There your
thoughts on what you think good dog parenting means? You've
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Speaker 2 (27:16):
How five seven seven three nine. That's the text line.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Really pleased to be joined in that previous segment by
Josh Laffazan.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
I've seen him on News Nation. He's been on with
Dan Abrams and others.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
A level headed democrat that seems like Anaxi moron, but
he really does get it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
I mean he said it.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
He had to win in a Republican leaning district, not once,
not twice, but thrice.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
One of my favorite words.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And he was a strong candidate against Tom Sawose for
the Democratic nomination to supplant George Santos, who was of
course removed from office in the third District of New York.
So interested to hear his thoughts. He's a bit younger,
but thirty now. And these gen Z mails, Kelly knows
one of them, she's raising one or has rais. I
(28:00):
guess past tense. He's an adult now doing his own
thing in Trevor and Kelly, you're telling me this guy's
going around red pill.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
And everybody he has. He's amazing, that's great.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
He has friend pilled Hailey, Yeah, my daughter, and he
has red pilled his girlfriend Addie, so it's a good thing.
And he has red pale, red pilled his older his
roommate from freshman year at a s U.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Did his roommate play football over the sun doubles?
Speaker 7 (28:34):
No, he tried to walk on. He actually did not
make it. But he's doing the what do you call it,
the inner mural?
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, trying to stick around. I get it.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
But his friend is a young black man. He's been
trumpefied that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
He voted for Trump.
Speaker 7 (28:53):
I'm telling you, you know, it's very strange.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I mean, you love Trevor so well, of course wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But on that note, I think it might be by
proportion black men abandoning the Democratic Party and Kamala Harris
and coming to support Donald Trump that might rescue this nation.
After all, we'll take this time out here on six
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