Christian Toto, creator and host of the Hollywood in Toto website and podcast, joins Ryan to recap his advance screening of the controversial Donald Trump biopic 'The Apprentice,' as well as his reviews of 'Saturday Night' and 'Joker: Folie à Deux,' and a preview of the upcoming Kamala Harris interview with Howard Stern.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Yes, Hello, this is Donald Trump from mister Cone. Thank
you so much, rooy Combe. Nice to meet you, your
roy Combe, your brutal, guiltiest charge.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
How do you always win it? His rules? The first
rule is attack, attack, attack.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's going to be the finest building in the city,
maybe the country, in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Rule two, I've met nothing to deny everything.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
There's never been anything like this.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's this magnitude, this quality. Who cheese balls over here?
What are you doing, la, No, it looks totally discussed.
She's balls.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Rule three.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
No matter what happens, you claimed victory. I never admit
the three.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You have to be willing to do anything anyone to win.
You are a big ass. You gotta work on your face.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Looks like attack, attack, admit.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Not ever admit the treat.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
What if you lost your fortune today, Well then maybe
I'll run for president.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I don't know if I say, if you're indicted, you're invited.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
The trailer from The Apprentice that is coming out in
theaters nationwide October eleventh, that's this Friday. I had a
chance to watch an advanced screening of this with my
good friend Christian Toto just last night. He joins us
now Hollywood Intoto dot com is where you can find
his review of this and many other films that we'll
be discussing during this segment included, and you can listen
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to his Hollywood in Toto podcast on your favorite podcast platform.
Find him on x at Hollywood in Toto. Christian, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Good to be back now.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
As you hear the trailer and you reconcile that with
what we watched last night, the portrayal of Donald Trump
by Sebastian Stan, the portrayal of Roy Kohene, that's the
voice that listeners hear there as the guiding mentor of
Donald Trump, a man I knew next to nothing about,
and Jeremy Strong with a strong performance in my opinion,
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in that regard.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Of that character. But the character actors aside.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Christian, take us through what we watched and what your
response was to it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a really fascinating story
you put aside politics of this, this brash mogul, how
he ran roughshot over New York City, great success and
of course some failures too, and how he burnished his
brand this you know, Braggadoccio style, this optimistic pro capitalism guy,
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and how he also had lots of appetites, lots of women.
You know, we know the story, but I think kind
of getting behind of the skin is fascinating, and the
film does it just in bits and pieces until it
really turns into the hit piece. You expect a new
fear in a sense because you know, listen, Hollywood hates
Trump and they want to make sure he doesn't, you know,
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the president again, and so it's not a surprise that,
you know, I think the film has some redeeming qualities
for a while that I think just gets squandered that
the film seemingly finds his groove.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
And this is where I try to bifurcate it in
my viewing experienced Christian, because I think the typical person
in our audience who supports and likes Donald Trump, there
are going to be moments in this movie where you're
very agitated and I think angry on behalf of the
former president. But in the beginning, I would say about
the first half, there was an interesting narrative in character
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arc in which Donald Trump kind of learned the ropes
from this Roy Kohne. And this figure is a factual
member of American history who was also had ties to
Senator McCarthy and Roger Stone, who's portrayed in this film. Well,
but I tried to separate that from what I thought
were two really outstanding individual performances that I just mentioned
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Sebastian Stan with the look, the mannerisms. I even made
the comment about how he kind of pursed his mouth
and how he spoke, and in particular in that sit
down interview that's re enacted that we heard in the trailer,
I believe it was supposed to be with a social
lighte about whether or not he would run for president.
I thought that was pitch perfect, and then I was
blown away, truly when I reflected upon it both last
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night and this morning, by the portrayal of Roy Cohne
by Jeremy Strong, who just immersed himself in this character.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Can you take us through what you.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Thought of those two portrayals specifically, Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I think his character has more depth, more nuanced, because
by most accounts I read it was not a kind sulf,
it was rather despicable. But the way he maneuvered through
the movie. You know, sometimes are an actor is very charismatic,
even when they're evil, even than when they're wrong, even
when the villain part of you can't help but identify
with them, or cure them on or just somehow connect
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with them.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's seeing that with Tony Soprano and Walter White. These
are bad people in a sense, but there's something magnetic
about the performance, something unique, and I think Strong has that.
And I think that the fact that conees arc captured
here was so tragic, was so colorful, it was so hypnotizing,
So I think they had that in their favor, but
I think the movie wanted to use the cone figure
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as a pawn as a way to kind of say, hey,
Trump's a monster, or this is how he became a monster,
and by doing that they really did deprive of this humanity.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I saw a scene that Christine where it looked like
you would see something positive about Trump or something real
or raw or authentic, and it would almost like just
dissolve before your eyes. I joked my review, It's almost
like a drinking game every time, every time we pivot
from a decent person to a monster, you know, take
a slug. It felt that way again and again and again,
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and I just thought, you know, Trump is so larger
than life. If he really depicted him warts and all,
and showed the humor, and showed the dealmaking, and showed
the fact that he was generous at times, and showed
the ego and the bruising persona. I think that would
be fascinating, and you can do it from a negative
point of view. You can said, these are negative attributes.
Let's get that's perfectly fine. Taking away his humanity. It
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just made it a lesser experience.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Couldn't agree more. Christian Toto.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
My guess, Hollywood intoto dot com is where you can
find this review and many others.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I thought this story had potential.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
And maybe it will again at some point they had
I thought, the cinematic depiction down of the seventies and
eighties New York City and it was dark and it
was dreary, and Donald Trump had this idea and he
wanted to bring Trump Tower to the middle of New
York City and rejuvenate and revitalize what was a dead
district which was dirty and dingy. And Mayor Koch comes
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in and they kind of use him as a clownish figure.
There was a story to be told and what that
story is, Christian, is what I've said on the show
many times. People forget and maybe many people remember. Donald
Trump helped revitalize the city in much the same way
that Rudy Giuliani did his mayor, except Donald Trump did
it from a businessman's perspective.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And you could tell that story as a cautionary tale, like, oh, yes,
he did have this vision, he did succeed, how wonderful.
But he became arrogant, he became all powerful. And maybe
that's the warning of this that he was unchecked. I mean,
that's an angle. You could agree, you could disagree, but
that's a compelling way to kind of frame this story.
(07:33):
But to me later in the film, it's a mild spoiler.
I think you've seen it in other reviews and I
think you'll hear about it. There are scenes that show
him undergoing LiPo suction and getting and declaring that he
has a rectile dysfunction or alluding to it, and the
thought that really doesn't show anything of character building, doesn't
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really kind of push the story forward. It was just insulting.
It was just like a cheap shot, and I thought, oh,
you know, you're you're undermining your own cause I think
it hurts. I think it arms. The film's critics like myself.
But also it just that's not the way you tell
the story. There are so many facets and so many
fascinting things about Trump. To go there just felt cheap.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
It was cheap, it was gratuitous. It didn't drive the storyline,
the narrative, like you say that, the arc of the characters,
any of that, And I just think I agree with you, Christian,
it fell flat in a way where it had a
chance to succeed. That's The Apprentice, and it comes out
in theaters this Friday, October eleventh. Let's turn now to
a favorite subject of Christians in mind, and.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
And they went there on this weekend's edition with Maya
Rudolph portraying Kamala Harris and Jim Gaffigan as Tim Walls,
with this kind of disarming debate moment.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Okay, out there is doing this thing, whatever that may be.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Come on, just relax.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You know you haven't had a night off in three months.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Do you want to watch something less stressful like The
Menandez brother Show.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I don't know, Douggie.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I kind of wish I had picked Josh right.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Now, Oh, Jos Shapiro, No, Josh, Look it'll be fine.
It's not like he's gonna say something crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm become friends with school Shooters. She crushes the wine
glass in her hand.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
She makes a joke about Josh Wine that I thought
was very well executed and done.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Christian Ay surprised they went there at all with.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
This, well, a very surprised. A good sign perhaps of
the show maybe trying to reclaim its roots. But you
know that's what you should be doing. Those are low
hanging fruit done well. I mean, if you're a satirical show,
you're looking at the political scene. And if Van's had
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said I'm friend to school shooters accidentally, that's everywhere and
that's across the culture and it should be. It's a gas.
And so the fact they did that is just it's
been doing their duty.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
As it can be sick.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So but we've you know, the show has fallen so
far and we expect so little from it. We stand
a gape watching that moment.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That should be oh to be a home run.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
That should be what they do every week, but they don't.
So why does to see if they keep this up.
But even just having kam La Harris, as you know,
gulping wine, that kind of plays into a negative stereotype
about her, not she's fun that maybe maybe she's a
little bit tipsy, And that explained some of the word
solid proclamations. I'm not accusing her of anything. That's just
kind of in the culture and the zeitguys, some people
have said that, and it's a little riff you can
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do and kind of a wing wink, nudge nudge that
it's funny. So you know, that's again on the table.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
And speaking of culture, the zeitgeist, we go back now
for Saturday Night Live fifty years to nineteen seventy five.
Lauren Michael's portrayed by Gabriel LaBelle and Rachel Sennett, who
portrays Rosy Shuster, one of the early writers for SNL,
and Lorne Michael's wife at the time. This movie comes
out October eleventh, simply titled Saturday Night.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Hey, Free, commory show, Funny seats, funny tickets left, guys,
free show, say.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So big night. Look, my name is Lauren Michael's. I'm
Crucier Saturday Night the whole night, Yeah, the whole night.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Chevy Chase skilled a reader, Dan, I go.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
How do you pronounce this?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Really? You know?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I was thinking, why don't we put it?
Speaker 8 (11:44):
We should run the dress russel and claw back and
win next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We can't, dick, it's a live show.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
We're just not ready.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It doesn't matter that we're ready.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
It matters that it's eleven thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's when we go on.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I'm trying to do is give you advice.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's in everyone's best interest, mainly yours.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Was that a threat?
Speaker 9 (12:04):
Round? You haven't locked the script.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Your crew is in open rebellion.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
You you definitely The writers on the seventeenth floor tied
a belt around Big Bird's neck and hung him from
my dressing room door.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh something you fit into this ensembleed? What is this?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, NBC makes more money playing RUMs of the Tonight show.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
NBC is lucky to have something as relevant as a
show going. They don't even want That's logical. That's why
they're pang is all to be here.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I mean, you are.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Ninety minutes of live television, biker who's twenty year olds
who've never made anything. You ever stopped and wonder why
they said yes, a counter.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Culture show staring total unknown was zero narrative and even
what shrip?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They want you to fail?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We just have to make it the air.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Am I still in the show? Jesus Christ? Sorry tripped
over my penis Christian. We've had so many conversations about
this show.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
It spans my entire life, basically, going back to nineteen
seventy five. It still survives all these years later, albeit
I think in a diminished form. What can we look
forward to? Do you think of this film?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
A lot of lasts, a lot of insights into the
creative mind, and a lot of oh man, and the
show was really cool back in the day. Now I
get you can't be counterculture forever. And the show's on
literally fifty seasons now, And to be as irreverent and
crazy and wacky as the beginning, it's just not possible.
But just the fact that the show is so formulaic,
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so predictable until very recently, apparently, it is said, but
this is a celebration of the creative spirit. It also
happens back to a time when aggressives. And I'll assume
that the original cast members were left of center. They
loved free speech, they loved commodated, they loved being able
to tell jokes their way, and they hated the scolds
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who were saying, oh, you can't tell that joke and
that's too dirty and that's too naughty. You know, first
of all, it was eleven dirty at night on a Saturday,
and we couldn't pbow it or record it or watch
it on YouTube, so you know, it was a safe
haven of sorts for content. But yeah, how far the
culture has changed. And I really enjoyed this. It's one
of the probably one of the best movies of twenty
twenty four and it's funny and cool and you're sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Christin Toto.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Hollywood Intoto dot Com is where you can find them online,
and don't forget to subscribe to download and listen to
his Hollywood in Toto podcast. Always great information reviews there
as well. Following up on the casting for this Christian
there's so many big names and there's only so much
you can do to replicate what they were fifty years ago.
(15:00):
The names that you've heard Chevy Chase, Gilda Radner, Dan
Aykroyd of course, leading up to these minutes before the
very first episode, which is what this movie is focused on.
As far as the casting goes, what do you think
was the motive in who they cast and how do
you think that all worked out.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I suspect the plan was to find people who were
not very familiar and have them create kin point way,
but just to sound enough alike and look enough like
where it kind of carries you forward. I think it
works perfectly. Dylan O'Brien might be one of the only
actress I recognize. He plays Dan Ackroyd and nails it.
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So I just think it was a very smart approach.
It wasn't like a mimicry. It was kind of conveying
the essence of these characters with people you just don't
know that well, and that kind of creates that suspension
of disbelief that you could think, how that guy's John Blushy,
you get it. So it was a great idea. I
think it worked perfectly, and it ain't easy. I mean,
these are really iconic figures sometimes, but I think they
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mostly didn't find John.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
You know the Saturday Night Lives that I remember first.
I was around the age of ten. My parents were
a little bit lenient and let me watch such a show.
I even watched one episode where Eddie Murphy portrayed mister
Robinson's neighborhood with my grandmother, my dad's mom and she
was pretty open to comedy. She was going to let
me experience that at a very young age.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And then we watched it.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Transform throughout the eighties Christian with the rotating tasks and
Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Phil Hartman, Jan Hook, some really
talented individuals that came through, and then in the nineties
with Adam Sandler and David Spade and Chris Farley.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Where did it all go wrong? Do you think?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
For Saturday Night Live? Where did it turn? Why did
it turn? And are we beyond the point of no return?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I think I had mentioned the Obama years were to blame,
and it's not President Obama's fault. Just the show dialed
back on the comedy. You know, I can actually that
was a little quicker bag because I think it was
about Sarah, but Tina Fey portrayed Sarah Palin on Esnel.
It was a sensation in part because it was funny,
in part because they was very good in the role.
But it also had an impact on the culture. And
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I think that the people behind the scenes that ESSNL said, Hey,
we aren't just telling jokes, We're actually impacting the conversation.
What we do and say the jokes we share, they
could maybe sway some hearts and minds, and we have
to act accordingly. We can't just tell jokes that we
used to tell jokes. We have to tailor them a
certain way. We have to hold back at a certain time.
We have to make sure that we're not hitting the
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left too hard and maybe hitting the right harder. So
I think when that sentiment creeped in crept in, that's
when the show changed. Now, listen, Lord Michaels is in
his late seventies, maybe early eighties. Now, it's really hard
to keep picking these comics superstars who did it for decades.
I think there's no one else quite like them. It's all,
you know, you got to fit it into finding all
these people, the diamonds and the rough. But I think
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the later cast members in recent years, I just don't
see any breakout performers. I don't see any new superstars.
And you can buy that with the real bias of
the show and the fact that it's let woke take over,
where you're just not go in for the funny, You're
going for different reasons. You're trying to make people think
a certain way as opposed to just laugh and I
think that's where I went awry. And I don't think
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they could reclaim it. I think it's been gone too far.
They need that they tried. I think a lot of
people have tuned out.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Christian Toto joining us concluding this segment, Christian, can I
bring you back for another I still got a couple
of bass to cover. Yeah, absolutely, all right, Christian Tooto.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hollywoodantoto dot Com.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Still want to get to this upcoming Kamala Harris appearance
on Howard Start.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
He's changed everybody's life.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Now everyone is watching. Wait believe arc reflexed to be
some kind of.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Marks a monster.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
When you know exactly what he was doing.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So tough witnesses enter to the room.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
These persons, you're gonna call you walk joke?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
How much? Speaking to you now?
Speaker 9 (19:29):
Which one I used here?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I'm doing anything for you.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
There is a little too much, a little walk.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
You could do anything you want. You're Joker, m.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
That is Joker, fully ado, I believe. And that is
the sequel to the original starring Joaquin Phoenix. Robert de
Niro was in that first installment Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur
Fleck aka Joker, and this one features Lady Gaga as
Lee Quinzell later to be known as Harley Quinn. I
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don't think I'm spoiling anything there. For those that are
familiar with the DC Comics universe, we bring back Christian
Toto for his assessment. Hollywood intoto dot com is where
you can find it and read all about it.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Christian, did this sequel need to be made?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I think we can say that about a lot of sequels,
so it's not the death nail for any particular movie.
But then after you watch it, you think, oh no,
it really didn't need to be remade. It's actually one
of the films where you watch it and you're so disappointing.
You think less of the original film because I love
the twenty nineteen joke. I thought it was brilliant, and
people are very divided about that. One is obviously a
shoot hit. This new one it's a musical. I'm not
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going to even go there, because I don't think that's
the root of the problem. It seems like an odd
choice for sure, but you watch it and you think,
I don't know what they're trying to say. The first film,
I had a message about alienation, about how society often
doesn't help people that when you're false to crack, sometimes
violence will break down. I mean it had some interesting
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themes in addition to the great performance by Joaquin Phoenix.
A new film. I just I don't know where to
come from. It's a courtroom drama without a real gravitas
or excitement. It's a love story that doesn't really have
any sort of depth. It's you know, you're watching two
very charismatic stars in Phoenix and Lady Gaga as Roley
Quinn with the DC comics Canton, and that's okay. The
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first one didn't either. It's a different beast, but gosh,
I just don't know what they were going for because
it just left me more frustrated and exasperated at times.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Not a great review, and you could read more details
Hollywood intoto dot com. I know you got Time is
short for Christians, so I want to get here. If
we're disappointed in Saturday Night Live and where it went,
We're more disappointed, infinitely so Christian and I as former
fans of Howard Stern in his dissent. This is from
just over thirty years ago, the now deceee Sherman Hemsley
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portraying Whoopee Goldberg after the controversial blackface incident in a
Rose that Ted Danson showed up in Howard Stern portraying
Ted Danson. This was Howard Stern in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Whoopy Done roade everything I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Say here tonight. So it's all right? Ain't that right?
You're smelling? I didn't write that where he is a smelling.
I got some more jokes for your New Year's Eve.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Part of that.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
You're not tired of this and don't be racially offended
because Whoopy Done wrote them for me?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, black hole?
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Black hole?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Who loved this? Tun? What do I loves most about
the whoopie? Yes's great timing?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Hey, Robin, what does you call a black rocket scientist?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I don't know Whoopy rolled it?
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Did you have me to notice? This was my mother
mama dancing. She done work in black face too. She
must be very proud.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, I know you really love you, Ted, You the man.
I tell you, you know you the man? What don't
happen in Sherman's career? It's really over the end.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
I want you to give us a kiss your smelly cock?
Had I love it?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Say something here. Mm hmm, oh, you can say whatever
you want.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
You smelling.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Whoopy road Dad.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Ted you didn't know I was going to say that
Whoopy had no chance to write it.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
I don't accept that kind of language.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You can call her whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But you don't talk to me that way, or I'll leave.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Well, don't let the door hit you on your big
black ass, Mama the way out of here?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Now?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Were was? I? Oh? Yes, now whoop it?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You is a filthy now.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Kamal Harris is going to appear with Howard Stern tomorrow
Christian and my question is how is this acceptable and
how is Howard Stern able to avoid being canceled.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, Howard Stern took a severe lurch to the left
in the last five ten years, and that's how he
is culturally protected. It's similar to Jimmy Kimmel, who did
black face repeatedly in his past and had a misogynist
show called The Man Show. And again he is protected
because he picked the right political positioning and he's been
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a warrior for the left. And Howard gets a similar pass.
What you played I was. I mean, I grew up
in Howard Stern. I'd probably listened to everything you just played,
and it was still shocking given the twenty twenty four
lems that we're in right now. And let me tell
you as a fan, that was the tip of the
outrageous Iceberg. But again, that's where Howard Stern has evolved, devolved,
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language changes, culture changes. You couldn't say almost any of
that today. But he's going to throw lob softballs at
Kamala Harrison. That's why he's granted some time with her.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
He's atoned for his sins.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
In other words, of this past Howard Stern that no
longer exists, but it's out there and you just heard it,
n words and all. You can follow Everything Hollywood at
hollywoodintoto dot com and follow him on x at Hollywood
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Speaker 2 (25:23):
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Speaker 6 (25:25):
To his podcast, Hollywood in Toto Christian Toto Always thankful
for your time, Oh my pleasure, Christian Toto your reaction
five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You can start those texts.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Ryan, Just one more thing here I want to hit
on before we go to break. We come back with
my buddy Hutch who's right in the path of Hurricane
soon to be Milton that is brewing in the Gulf
of Mexico and he's been preparing for it.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So we're going to live update from him. But you
look at the media that.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Kamala Harris is choosing sixty minutes was one and you'll
hear that deep thought coming back on the other side
of our next break. But she also goes on this podcast.
I have to presume that she's doubling down on a
base type of voter that she's trying to turn out.
But this is Alexandra Cooper call her Daddy podcast host
(26:14):
asking Kamala Harris if there's any law to make decisions
over men's bodies.
Speaker 8 (26:19):
I want to pose this question more to you and
the Daddy Gang, but one of the biggest conversations in
this year's election revolves around a woman's body.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
I want to take a moment and can we try
to think of any law that gives the government the
power to make a decision. I know what you're gonna
ask about a man's body.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
No, No, is there any law?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No? No, it's no, it's no.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Set aside the whole abortion argument for a second, because
obviously this is tainted.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
There is another.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Body within the body that's developing and alive. And that's
an argument that we can have for another day. But
is there any law that the United States government has
that controls men's bodies?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Can you think of one? Klay Travis? Did I know?
Speaker 6 (27:21):
When I turned eighteen, as a young United States male citizen,
I had to register for selective service i e.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
The Draft?
Speaker 6 (27:32):
There have been over a million young men drafted dating
back to World War Two, the Vietnam War, highly controversial,
drafted into service for a war that should never have
happened in my view. The draft was halted after that,
but it still exists. It could be reinstated, and there
have been many young men. Many would view them as
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boys age eighteen sent off to fight in wars to
die for their country.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That could still happen.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
You know how many women have ever been selected in
the draft and sent out to war to die for
this country by order of their government.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Zero?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
So yeah, I don't want to hear it. I really
don't want to hear it. Not real thrilled about it.
But this is a preaching to the choir podcast. I
don't know how much traction it gains. Kamala Harris in
the campaign, I would argue very little. These are low
propensity voters to start with, it might energize them. I
just don't think it's going to have much effect. We'll
take this time out, we'll come back. Hatchie joins me.
(28:36):
He is battening down the hatches for Milton coming across
the Gulf. You're listening to Ryan Schuling live on six
point thirty K.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
How and now deep thoughts by Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
But it seems that Prime Minister who.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Is not listening well, Bill, The work that we have
done has resulted in a number of movements in that
region by Israel that were very much prompted by or
a result of many things, including our advocacy for what
(29:22):
needs to happen.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
In the region.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Who does she think she's fooling? Maybe our next guest,
Ryan Schuling live back with you and joining me now
my good friend David Tyson, otherwise known as Hutch. He
lives in Largo, in the middle of the Panela's Peninsula,
Saint Pete, Saint Pete Beach, Clearwater Beach, which has already
been wiped out in large regard by Hurricane Helene, and
(29:44):
now they are bracing for Hurricane Milton, which is currently
a Cat five hurricane. It may clip the Yucatan Peninsula
of Mexico, and every map I'm seeing Hotchie has it
heading straight for you there in the Tampa Bay Saint
Pete region.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
What are you doing to prepare?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, it's not good. Hi Kelly, Hi Raie, I love
you guys. Yeah, it's pretty wild down here right now. Riots.
I've never seen nothing like it. It's a madhouse.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Now, you're fifty two years old and you've endured a
lot of these that the only one that comes to
mind that might compare would be Hurricane Andrew.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Do you remember that one?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, that was I think that was Homestead. That was
Miami in nineteen eighty five. There was one that sat
out in the golf. It never actually came and hit us.
So I've never been hit by a direct one. This
one here is gonna this is gonna be bad news.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
What's the worst one you could remember living down there
for you?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
I can't remember the name of it. It was an
eighty five. I was just a teenager.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So that's the one that you said did not make
landfall in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah, hung out in the golf for three four days,
maybe eighty miles outside of Tampa and it just whipped
us with winds and then went up to I think Pensacola.
But this one here is not going to be good,
just going to be catastrophic. You know, half of Penaic
County's wiped out already.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Already by Helene David Tyson. Ok.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah, the beaches are gone. Ryan. You know when you
come down here, we head towards the beaches, they're gone.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
And that's before we see what might happen with Milton. So, Hudge,
what can you do in preparation for this? Where will
you go? What is it going to take to ride
out this storm?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Well, Luckily, where I'm at, I'm not in the flood zone,
so I'm not leaving. I got animals. The winds is
what's scary. You know, if we get one hundred and
thirty hundred and forty mile an hour sustained winds, that's
when that's.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
When roofs come off.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
It's going to be really bad.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
Ryan.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
I'm probably gonna be without electricity for weeks. But you know,
I've got food, I got my Blackstone grill, I got
plenty of plenty of fuel.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So and you said gasoline is hard to come by.
There right now, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I drove by thirty forty gas stations on my way
home from Tampaa and not one of them had gas.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Wow. David Tyson live from Largo, Florida.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
This is on the panelas Peninsula as they await Milton
and landfall that should come.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Now, they're saying, is it Wednesday evening?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah? Late late Wednesday, which is gonna stink because you
know now it's going to be dark in the middle
of the night, and that doesn't make it better. I
don't really know. I'm just gonna hunk her down, ry
and and just hope for the best. I mean, I'll
be fine here, I won't get flooded, but the wind
is not good.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Well, Hutch, I mean, this is looking like a potential
direct hit. I have the hurricane coming right over where
you are. As you wait and react to this, You've
got Hannah, your daughter, and I know that's a big
concern of yours and your pets. But what would it
take for you to say, you know what, I am
getting the hell out of here.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Well, Hannah's Hannah's with their mom. They're evacuating to Atlanta.
So oh okay, yeah, so she's out of here, which
is good. I don't I don't want her to have
to experience this. This is going to be unpleasant.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
But what would it take, Hutch for a forecast?
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Would Ronnie d have to go, hey, look, get out,
and then would you follow his lead?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Well, if this thing was going to hit as a
calf ive, I'd be gone right now. They've been talking
about it being downgraded to a three, which is still
not nothing to mess with, right A five? Would that's
next level destruction? I would be out of here that
I'd probably been on a flight to you guys. Well,
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if they were telling me it was going to hit
as a five.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Well just know that's an option. Kelly has offered her
home to you. She's got plenty of room and plenty
of space. Obviously you could stay with me, but we're
keeping an eye on this. I know you are too, Hutch,
and it's a scary and uneasy time. We're wishing you
the best as you try to write out this storm,
but don't take any chances, all right.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, Well, I'll call you during this and let you
know what I'm doing. And and I'm just gonna be
unburdened by what has been dude, and vote for Kamala, right, yeah,
oh boy, what a beauty.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
The incomparable David Tye and my buddy Hutch down there
right in the path of Milton, and we send our
prayers to him and everybody in that region.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's right, that's right. There's two of them, Winston most
notably
Yes, Hello, this is Donald Trump from mister Cone. Thank
you so much, rooy Combe. Nice to meet you, your
roy Combe, your brutal, guiltiest charge.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
How do you always win it? His rules? The first
rule is attack, attack, attack.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
It's going to be the finest building in the city,
maybe the country, in the world.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Rule two, I've met nothing to deny everything.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
There's never been anything like this.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
It's this magnitude, this quality. Who cheese balls over here?
What are you doing, la, No, it looks totally discussed.
She's balls.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Rule three.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
No matter what happens, you claimed victory. I never admit
the three.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
You have to be willing to do anything anyone to win.
You are a big ass. You gotta work on your face.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Looks like attack, attack, admit.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Not ever admit the treat.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
What if you lost your fortune today, Well then maybe
I'll run for president.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
I don't know if I say, if you're indicted, you're invited.
Speaker 6 (01:27):
The trailer from The Apprentice that is coming out in
theaters nationwide October eleventh, that's this Friday. I had a
chance to watch an advanced screening of this with my
good friend Christian Toto just last night. He joins us
now Hollywood Intoto dot com is where you can find
his review of this and many other films that we'll
be discussing during this segment included, and you can listen
(01:49):
to his Hollywood in Toto podcast on your favorite podcast platform.
Find him on x at Hollywood in Toto. Christian, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Good to be back now.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
As you hear the trailer and you reconcile that with
what we watched last night, the portrayal of Donald Trump
by Sebastian Stan, the portrayal of Roy Kohene, that's the
voice that listeners hear there as the guiding mentor of
Donald Trump, a man I knew next to nothing about,
and Jeremy Strong with a strong performance in my opinion,
(02:22):
in that regard.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Of that character. But the character actors aside.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Christian, take us through what we watched and what your
response was to it.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's a really fascinating story
you put aside politics of this, this brash mogul, how
he ran roughshot over New York City, great success and
of course some failures too, and how he burnished his
brand this you know, Braggadoccio style, this optimistic pro capitalism guy,
(02:53):
and how he also had lots of appetites, lots of women.
You know, we know the story, but I think kind
of getting behind of the skin is fascinating, and the
film does it just in bits and pieces until it
really turns into the hit piece. You expect a new
fear in a sense because you know, listen, Hollywood hates
Trump and they want to make sure he doesn't, you know,
(03:13):
the president again, and so it's not a surprise that,
you know, I think the film has some redeeming qualities
for a while that I think just gets squandered that
the film seemingly finds his groove.
Speaker 6 (03:25):
And this is where I try to bifurcate it in
my viewing experienced Christian, because I think the typical person
in our audience who supports and likes Donald Trump, there
are going to be moments in this movie where you're
very agitated and I think angry on behalf of the
former president. But in the beginning, I would say about
the first half, there was an interesting narrative in character
(03:45):
arc in which Donald Trump kind of learned the ropes
from this Roy Kohne. And this figure is a factual
member of American history who was also had ties to
Senator McCarthy and Roger Stone, who's portrayed in this film. Well,
but I tried to separate that from what I thought
were two really outstanding individual performances that I just mentioned
(04:07):
Sebastian Stan with the look, the mannerisms. I even made
the comment about how he kind of pursed his mouth
and how he spoke, and in particular in that sit
down interview that's re enacted that we heard in the trailer,
I believe it was supposed to be with a social
lighte about whether or not he would run for president.
I thought that was pitch perfect, and then I was
blown away, truly when I reflected upon it both last
(04:30):
night and this morning, by the portrayal of Roy Cohne
by Jeremy Strong, who just immersed himself in this character.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Can you take us through what you.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
Thought of those two portrayals specifically, Yes.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I think his character has more depth, more nuanced, because
by most accounts I read it was not a kind sulf,
it was rather despicable. But the way he maneuvered through
the movie. You know, sometimes are an actor is very charismatic,
even when they're evil, even than when they're wrong, even
when the villain part of you can't help but identify
with them, or cure them on or just somehow connect
(05:04):
with them.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
It's seeing that with Tony Soprano and Walter White. These
are bad people in a sense, but there's something magnetic
about the performance, something unique, and I think Strong has that.
And I think that the fact that conees arc captured
here was so tragic, was so colorful, it was so hypnotizing,
So I think they had that in their favor, but
I think the movie wanted to use the cone figure
(05:27):
as a pawn as a way to kind of say, hey,
Trump's a monster, or this is how he became a monster,
and by doing that they really did deprive of this humanity.
Speaker 6 (05:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I saw a scene that Christine where it looked like
you would see something positive about Trump or something real
or raw or authentic, and it would almost like just
dissolve before your eyes. I joked my review, It's almost
like a drinking game every time, every time we pivot
from a decent person to a monster, you know, take
a slug. It felt that way again and again and again,
(05:58):
and I just thought, you know, Trump is so larger
than life. If he really depicted him warts and all,
and showed the humor, and showed the dealmaking, and showed
the fact that he was generous at times, and showed
the ego and the bruising persona. I think that would
be fascinating, and you can do it from a negative
point of view. You can said, these are negative attributes.
Let's get that's perfectly fine. Taking away his humanity. It
(06:21):
just made it a lesser experience.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Couldn't agree more. Christian Toto.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
My guess, Hollywood intoto dot com is where you can
find this review and many others.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
I thought this story had potential.
Speaker 6 (06:30):
And maybe it will again at some point they had
I thought, the cinematic depiction down of the seventies and
eighties New York City and it was dark and it
was dreary, and Donald Trump had this idea and he
wanted to bring Trump Tower to the middle of New
York City and rejuvenate and revitalize what was a dead
district which was dirty and dingy. And Mayor Koch comes
(06:52):
in and they kind of use him as a clownish figure.
There was a story to be told and what that
story is, Christian, is what I've said on the show
many times. People forget and maybe many people remember. Donald
Trump helped revitalize the city in much the same way
that Rudy Giuliani did his mayor, except Donald Trump did
it from a businessman's perspective.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And you could tell that story as a cautionary tale, like, oh, yes,
he did have this vision, he did succeed, how wonderful.
But he became arrogant, he became all powerful. And maybe
that's the warning of this that he was unchecked. I mean,
that's an angle. You could agree, you could disagree, but
that's a compelling way to kind of frame this story.
(07:33):
But to me later in the film, it's a mild spoiler.
I think you've seen it in other reviews and I
think you'll hear about it. There are scenes that show
him undergoing LiPo suction and getting and declaring that he
has a rectile dysfunction or alluding to it, and the
thought that really doesn't show anything of character building, doesn't
(07:55):
really kind of push the story forward. It was just insulting.
It was just like a cheap shot, and I thought, oh,
you know, you're you're undermining your own cause I think
it hurts. I think it arms. The film's critics like myself.
But also it just that's not the way you tell
the story. There are so many facets and so many
fascinting things about Trump. To go there just felt cheap.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
It was cheap, it was gratuitous. It didn't drive the storyline,
the narrative, like you say that, the arc of the characters,
any of that, And I just think I agree with you, Christian,
it fell flat in a way where it had a
chance to succeed. That's The Apprentice, and it comes out
in theaters this Friday, October eleventh. Let's turn now to
a favorite subject of Christians in mind, and.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
That's Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
And they went there on this weekend's edition with Maya
Rudolph portraying Kamala Harris and Jim Gaffigan as Tim Walls,
with this kind of disarming debate moment.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Okay, out there is doing this thing, whatever that may be.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Come on, just relax.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
You know you haven't had a night off in three months.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
Do you want to watch something less stressful like The
Menandez brother Show.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I don't know, Douggie.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I kind of wish I had picked Josh right.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Now, Oh, Jos Shapiro, No, Josh, Look it'll be fine.
It's not like he's gonna say something crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I'm become friends with school Shooters. She crushes the wine
glass in her hand.
Speaker 6 (09:29):
She makes a joke about Josh Wine that I thought
was very well executed and done.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Christian Ay surprised they went there at all with.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
This, well, a very surprised. A good sign perhaps of
the show maybe trying to reclaim its roots. But you
know that's what you should be doing. Those are low
hanging fruit done well. I mean, if you're a satirical show,
you're looking at the political scene. And if Van's had
(09:57):
said I'm friend to school shooters accidentally, that's everywhere and
that's across the culture and it should be. It's a gas.
And so the fact they did that is just it's
been doing their duty.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
As it can be sick.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
So but we've you know, the show has fallen so
far and we expect so little from it. We stand
a gape watching that moment.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
That should be oh to be a home run.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
That should be what they do every week, but they don't.
So why does to see if they keep this up.
But even just having kam La Harris, as you know,
gulping wine, that kind of plays into a negative stereotype
about her, not she's fun that maybe maybe she's a
little bit tipsy, And that explained some of the word
solid proclamations. I'm not accusing her of anything. That's just
kind of in the culture and the zeitguys, some people
have said that, and it's a little riff you can
(10:42):
do and kind of a wing wink, nudge nudge that
it's funny. So you know, that's again on the table.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
And speaking of culture, the zeitgeist, we go back now
for Saturday Night Live fifty years to nineteen seventy five.
Lauren Michael's portrayed by Gabriel LaBelle and Rachel Sennett, who
portrays Rosy Shuster, one of the early writers for SNL,
and Lorne Michael's wife at the time. This movie comes
out October eleventh, simply titled Saturday Night.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Hey, Free, commory show, Funny seats, funny tickets left, guys,
free show, say.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So big night. Look, my name is Lauren Michael's. I'm
Crucier Saturday Night the whole night, Yeah, the whole night.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Chevy Chase skilled a reader, Dan, I go.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
How do you pronounce this?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Really? You know?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I was thinking, why don't we put it?
Speaker 8 (11:44):
We should run the dress russel and claw back and
win next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
We can't, dick, it's a live show.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
We're just not ready.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It doesn't matter that we're ready.
Speaker 9 (11:52):
It matters that it's eleven thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
That's when we go on.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I'm trying to do is give you advice.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's in everyone's best interest, mainly yours.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
All right?
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Was that a threat?
Speaker 9 (12:04):
Round? You haven't locked the script.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Your crew is in open rebellion.
Speaker 8 (12:09):
You you definitely The writers on the seventeenth floor tied
a belt around Big Bird's neck and hung him from
my dressing room door.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Oh something you fit into this ensembleed? What is this?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No, NBC makes more money playing RUMs of the Tonight show.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
NBC is lucky to have something as relevant as a
show going. They don't even want That's logical. That's why
they're pang is all to be here.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
I mean, you are.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Ninety minutes of live television, biker who's twenty year olds
who've never made anything. You ever stopped and wonder why
they said yes, a counter.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Culture show staring total unknown was zero narrative and even
what shrip?
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They want you to fail?
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We just have to make it the air.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Am I still in the show? Jesus Christ? Sorry tripped
over my penis Christian. We've had so many conversations about
this show.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
It spans my entire life, basically, going back to nineteen
seventy five. It still survives all these years later, albeit
I think in a diminished form. What can we look
forward to? Do you think of this film?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
A lot of lasts, a lot of insights into the
creative mind, and a lot of oh man, and the
show was really cool back in the day. Now I
get you can't be counterculture forever. And the show's on
literally fifty seasons now, And to be as irreverent and
crazy and wacky as the beginning, it's just not possible.
But just the fact that the show is so formulaic,
(13:53):
so predictable until very recently, apparently, it is said, but
this is a celebration of the creative spirit. It also
happens back to a time when aggressives. And I'll assume
that the original cast members were left of center. They
loved free speech, they loved commodated, they loved being able
to tell jokes their way, and they hated the scolds
(14:14):
who were saying, oh, you can't tell that joke and
that's too dirty and that's too naughty. You know, first
of all, it was eleven dirty at night on a Saturday,
and we couldn't pbow it or record it or watch
it on YouTube, so you know, it was a safe
haven of sorts for content. But yeah, how far the
culture has changed. And I really enjoyed this. It's one
of the probably one of the best movies of twenty
twenty four and it's funny and cool and you're sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Christin Toto.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Hollywood Intoto dot Com is where you can find them online,
and don't forget to subscribe to download and listen to
his Hollywood in Toto podcast. Always great information reviews there
as well. Following up on the casting for this Christian
there's so many big names and there's only so much
you can do to replicate what they were fifty years ago.
(15:00):
The names that you've heard Chevy Chase, Gilda Radner, Dan
Aykroyd of course, leading up to these minutes before the
very first episode, which is what this movie is focused on.
As far as the casting goes, what do you think
was the motive in who they cast and how do
you think that all worked out.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I suspect the plan was to find people who were
not very familiar and have them create kin point way,
but just to sound enough alike and look enough like
where it kind of carries you forward. I think it
works perfectly. Dylan O'Brien might be one of the only
actress I recognize. He plays Dan Ackroyd and nails it.
(15:40):
So I just think it was a very smart approach.
It wasn't like a mimicry. It was kind of conveying
the essence of these characters with people you just don't
know that well, and that kind of creates that suspension
of disbelief that you could think, how that guy's John Blushy,
you get it. So it was a great idea. I
think it worked perfectly, and it ain't easy. I mean,
these are really iconic figures sometimes, but I think they
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mostly didn't find John.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
You know the Saturday Night Lives that I remember first.
I was around the age of ten. My parents were
a little bit lenient and let me watch such a show.
I even watched one episode where Eddie Murphy portrayed mister
Robinson's neighborhood with my grandmother, my dad's mom and she
was pretty open to comedy. She was going to let
me experience that at a very young age.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
And then we watched it.
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Transform throughout the eighties Christian with the rotating tasks and
Dana Carvey, Mike Myers, Phil Hartman, Jan Hook, some really
talented individuals that came through, and then in the nineties
with Adam Sandler and David Spade and Chris Farley.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Where did it all go wrong? Do you think?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
For Saturday Night Live? Where did it turn? Why did
it turn? And are we beyond the point of no return?
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Well?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I think I had mentioned the Obama years were to blame,
and it's not President Obama's fault. Just the show dialed
back on the comedy. You know, I can actually that
was a little quicker bag because I think it was
about Sarah, but Tina Fey portrayed Sarah Palin on Esnel.
It was a sensation in part because it was funny,
in part because they was very good in the role.
But it also had an impact on the culture. And
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I think that the people behind the scenes that ESSNL said, Hey,
we aren't just telling jokes, We're actually impacting the conversation.
What we do and say the jokes we share, they
could maybe sway some hearts and minds, and we have
to act accordingly. We can't just tell jokes that we
used to tell jokes. We have to tailor them a
certain way. We have to hold back at a certain time.
We have to make sure that we're not hitting the
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left too hard and maybe hitting the right harder. So
I think when that sentiment creeped in crept in, that's
when the show changed. Now, listen, Lord Michaels is in
his late seventies, maybe early eighties. Now, it's really hard
to keep picking these comics superstars who did it for decades.
I think there's no one else quite like them. It's all,
you know, you got to fit it into finding all
these people, the diamonds and the rough. But I think
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the later cast members in recent years, I just don't
see any breakout performers. I don't see any new superstars.
And you can buy that with the real bias of
the show and the fact that it's let woke take over,
where you're just not go in for the funny, You're
going for different reasons. You're trying to make people think
a certain way as opposed to just laugh and I
think that's where I went awry. And I don't think
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they could reclaim it. I think it's been gone too far.
They need that they tried. I think a lot of
people have tuned out.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Christian Toto joining us concluding this segment, Christian, can I
bring you back for another I still got a couple
of bass to cover. Yeah, absolutely, all right, Christian Tooto.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Hollywoodantoto dot Com.
Speaker 6 (18:31):
Still want to get to this upcoming Kamala Harris appearance
on Howard Start.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
He's changed everybody's life.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Now everyone is watching. Wait believe arc reflexed to be
some kind of.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Marks a monster.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
When you know exactly what he was doing.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
So tough witnesses enter to the room.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
These persons, you're gonna call you walk joke?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
How much? Speaking to you now?
Speaker 9 (19:29):
Which one I used here?
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I'm doing anything for you.
Speaker 9 (19:38):
There is a little too much, a little walk.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
You could do anything you want. You're Joker, m.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
That is Joker, fully ado, I believe. And that is
the sequel to the original starring Joaquin Phoenix. Robert de
Niro was in that first installment Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur
Fleck aka Joker, and this one features Lady Gaga as
Lee Quinzell later to be known as Harley Quinn. I
(20:24):
don't think I'm spoiling anything there. For those that are
familiar with the DC Comics universe, we bring back Christian
Toto for his assessment. Hollywood intoto dot com is where
you can find it and read all about it.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Christian, did this sequel need to be made?
Speaker 3 (20:39):
I think we can say that about a lot of sequels,
so it's not the death nail for any particular movie.
But then after you watch it, you think, oh no,
it really didn't need to be remade. It's actually one
of the films where you watch it and you're so disappointing.
You think less of the original film because I love
the twenty nineteen joke. I thought it was brilliant, and
people are very divided about that. One is obviously a
shoot hit. This new one it's a musical. I'm not
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going to even go there, because I don't think that's
the root of the problem. It seems like an odd
choice for sure, but you watch it and you think,
I don't know what they're trying to say. The first film,
I had a message about alienation, about how society often
doesn't help people that when you're false to crack, sometimes
violence will break down. I mean it had some interesting
(21:23):
themes in addition to the great performance by Joaquin Phoenix.
A new film. I just I don't know where to
come from. It's a courtroom drama without a real gravitas
or excitement. It's a love story that doesn't really have
any sort of depth. It's you know, you're watching two
very charismatic stars in Phoenix and Lady Gaga as Roley
Quinn with the DC comics Canton, and that's okay. The
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first one didn't either. It's a different beast, but gosh,
I just don't know what they were going for because
it just left me more frustrated and exasperated at times.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
Not a great review, and you could read more details
Hollywood intoto dot com. I know you got Time is
short for Christians, so I want to get here. If
we're disappointed in Saturday Night Live and where it went,
We're more disappointed, infinitely so Christian and I as former
fans of Howard Stern in his dissent. This is from
just over thirty years ago, the now deceee Sherman Hemsley
(22:19):
portraying Whoopee Goldberg after the controversial blackface incident in a
Rose that Ted Danson showed up in Howard Stern portraying
Ted Danson. This was Howard Stern in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Whoopy Done roade everything I'm going to.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Say here tonight. So it's all right? Ain't that right?
You're smelling? I didn't write that where he is a smelling.
I got some more jokes for your New Year's Eve.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Part of that.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
You're not tired of this and don't be racially offended
because Whoopy Done wrote them for me?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, black hole?
Speaker 7 (22:53):
Black hole?
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Who loved this? Tun? What do I loves most about
the whoopie? Yes's great timing?
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Hey, Robin, what does you call a black rocket scientist?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
I don't know Whoopy rolled it?
Speaker 9 (23:10):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Did you have me to notice? This was my mother
mama dancing. She done work in black face too. She
must be very proud.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:19):
No, I know you really love you, Ted, You the man.
I tell you, you know you the man? What don't
happen in Sherman's career? It's really over the end.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
I want you to give us a kiss your smelly cock?
Had I love it?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Say something here. Mm hmm, oh, you can say whatever
you want.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
You smelling.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Whoopy road Dad.
Speaker 7 (23:43):
Ted you didn't know I was going to say that
Whoopy had no chance to write it.
Speaker 8 (23:47):
I don't accept that kind of language.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
You can call her whatever you want.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
But you don't talk to me that way, or I'll leave.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Well, don't let the door hit you on your big
black ass, Mama the way out of here?
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Now?
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Were was? I? Oh? Yes, now whoop it?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You is a filthy now.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Kamal Harris is going to appear with Howard Stern tomorrow
Christian and my question is how is this acceptable and
how is Howard Stern able to avoid being canceled.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, Howard Stern took a severe lurch to the left
in the last five ten years, and that's how he
is culturally protected. It's similar to Jimmy Kimmel, who did
black face repeatedly in his past and had a misogynist
show called The Man Show. And again he is protected
because he picked the right political positioning and he's been
(24:31):
a warrior for the left. And Howard gets a similar pass.
What you played I was. I mean, I grew up
in Howard Stern. I'd probably listened to everything you just played,
and it was still shocking given the twenty twenty four
lems that we're in right now. And let me tell
you as a fan, that was the tip of the
outrageous Iceberg. But again, that's where Howard Stern has evolved, devolved,
(24:56):
language changes, culture changes. You couldn't say almost any of
that today. But he's going to throw lob softballs at
Kamala Harrison. That's why he's granted some time with her.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
He's atoned for his sins.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
In other words, of this past Howard Stern that no
longer exists, but it's out there and you just heard it,
n words and all. You can follow Everything Hollywood at
hollywoodintoto dot com and follow him on x at Hollywood
in Toto.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Be sure to download, listen, subscribe.
Speaker 6 (25:25):
To his podcast, Hollywood in Toto Christian Toto Always thankful
for your time, Oh my pleasure, Christian Toto your reaction
five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
You can start those texts.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
Ryan, Just one more thing here I want to hit
on before we go to break. We come back with
my buddy Hutch who's right in the path of Hurricane
soon to be Milton that is brewing in the Gulf
of Mexico and he's been preparing for it.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
So we're going to live update from him. But you
look at the media that.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
Kamala Harris is choosing sixty minutes was one and you'll
hear that deep thought coming back on the other side
of our next break. But she also goes on this podcast.
I have to presume that she's doubling down on a
base type of voter that she's trying to turn out.
But this is Alexandra Cooper call her Daddy podcast host
(26:14):
asking Kamala Harris if there's any law to make decisions
over men's bodies.
Speaker 8 (26:19):
I want to pose this question more to you and
the Daddy Gang, but one of the biggest conversations in
this year's election revolves around a woman's body.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (26:29):
I want to take a moment and can we try
to think of any law that gives the government the
power to make a decision. I know what you're gonna
ask about a man's body.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
No, No, is there any law?
Speaker 4 (26:50):
No? No, it's no, it's no.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
Set aside the whole abortion argument for a second, because
obviously this is tainted.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
There is another.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Body within the body that's developing and alive. And that's
an argument that we can have for another day. But
is there any law that the United States government has
that controls men's bodies?
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Can you think of one? Klay Travis? Did I know?
Speaker 6 (27:21):
When I turned eighteen, as a young United States male citizen,
I had to register for selective service i e.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
The Draft?
Speaker 6 (27:32):
There have been over a million young men drafted dating
back to World War Two, the Vietnam War, highly controversial,
drafted into service for a war that should never have
happened in my view. The draft was halted after that,
but it still exists. It could be reinstated, and there
have been many young men. Many would view them as
(27:55):
boys age eighteen sent off to fight in wars to
die for their country.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That could still happen.
Speaker 6 (28:03):
You know how many women have ever been selected in
the draft and sent out to war to die for
this country by order of their government.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Zero?
Speaker 6 (28:15):
So yeah, I don't want to hear it. I really
don't want to hear it. Not real thrilled about it.
But this is a preaching to the choir podcast. I
don't know how much traction it gains. Kamala Harris in
the campaign, I would argue very little. These are low
propensity voters to start with, it might energize them. I
just don't think it's going to have much effect. We'll
take this time out, we'll come back. Hatchie joins me.
(28:36):
He is battening down the hatches for Milton coming across
the Gulf. You're listening to Ryan Schuling live on six
point thirty K.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
How and now deep thoughts by Vice President Kamala Harris.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
But it seems that Prime Minister who.
Speaker 7 (29:00):
Is not listening well, Bill, The work that we have
done has resulted in a number of movements in that
region by Israel that were very much prompted by or
a result of many things, including our advocacy for what
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needs to happen.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
In the region.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Who does she think she's fooling? Maybe our next guest,
Ryan Schuling live back with you and joining me now
my good friend David Tyson, otherwise known as Hutch. He
lives in Largo, in the middle of the Panela's Peninsula,
Saint Pete, Saint Pete Beach, Clearwater Beach, which has already
been wiped out in large regard by Hurricane Helene, and
(29:44):
now they are bracing for Hurricane Milton, which is currently
a Cat five hurricane. It may clip the Yucatan Peninsula
of Mexico, and every map I'm seeing Hotchie has it
heading straight for you there in the Tampa Bay Saint
Pete region.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
What are you doing to prepare?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Yeah, it's not good. Hi Kelly, Hi Raie, I love
you guys. Yeah, it's pretty wild down here right now. Riots.
I've never seen nothing like it. It's a madhouse.
Speaker 6 (30:11):
Now, you're fifty two years old and you've endured a
lot of these that the only one that comes to
mind that might compare would be Hurricane Andrew.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Do you remember that one?
Speaker 5 (30:20):
Yeah, that was I think that was Homestead. That was
Miami in nineteen eighty five. There was one that sat
out in the golf. It never actually came and hit us.
So I've never been hit by a direct one. This
one here is gonna this is gonna be bad news.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
What's the worst one you could remember living down there
for you?
Speaker 5 (30:40):
I can't remember the name of it. It was an
eighty five. I was just a teenager.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So that's the one that you said did not make
landfall in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Yeah, hung out in the golf for three four days,
maybe eighty miles outside of Tampa and it just whipped
us with winds and then went up to I think Pensacola.
But this one here is not going to be good,
just going to be catastrophic. You know, half of Penaic
County's wiped out already.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Already by Helene David Tyson. Ok.
Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah, the beaches are gone. Ryan. You know when you
come down here, we head towards the beaches, they're gone.
Speaker 6 (31:12):
And that's before we see what might happen with Milton. So, Hudge,
what can you do in preparation for this? Where will
you go? What is it going to take to ride
out this storm?
Speaker 5 (31:24):
Well, Luckily, where I'm at, I'm not in the flood zone,
so I'm not leaving. I got animals. The winds is
what's scary. You know, if we get one hundred and
thirty hundred and forty mile an hour sustained winds, that's
when that's.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
When roofs come off.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
It's going to be really bad.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
Ryan.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
I'm probably gonna be without electricity for weeks. But you know,
I've got food, I got my Blackstone grill, I got
plenty of plenty of fuel.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
So and you said gasoline is hard to come by.
There right now, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I drove by thirty forty gas stations on my way
home from Tampaa and not one of them had gas.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Wow. David Tyson live from Largo, Florida.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
This is on the panelas Peninsula as they await Milton
and landfall that should come.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Now, they're saying, is it Wednesday evening?
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Yeah? Late late Wednesday, which is gonna stink because you
know now it's going to be dark in the middle
of the night, and that doesn't make it better. I
don't really know. I'm just gonna hunk her down, ry
and and just hope for the best. I mean, I'll
be fine here, I won't get flooded, but the wind
is not good.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Well, Hutch, I mean, this is looking like a potential
direct hit. I have the hurricane coming right over where
you are. As you wait and react to this, You've
got Hannah, your daughter, and I know that's a big
concern of yours and your pets. But what would it
take for you to say, you know what, I am
getting the hell out of here.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Well, Hannah's Hannah's with their mom. They're evacuating to Atlanta.
So oh okay, yeah, so she's out of here, which
is good. I don't I don't want her to have
to experience this. This is going to be unpleasant.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
But what would it take, Hutch for a forecast?
Speaker 6 (33:01):
Would Ronnie d have to go, hey, look, get out,
and then would you follow his lead?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Well, if this thing was going to hit as a
calf ive, I'd be gone right now. They've been talking
about it being downgraded to a three, which is still
not nothing to mess with, right A five? Would that's
next level destruction? I would be out of here that
I'd probably been on a flight to you guys. Well,
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if they were telling me it was going to hit
as a five.
Speaker 6 (33:28):
Well just know that's an option. Kelly has offered her
home to you. She's got plenty of room and plenty
of space. Obviously you could stay with me, but we're
keeping an eye on this. I know you are too, Hutch,
and it's a scary and uneasy time. We're wishing you
the best as you try to write out this storm,
but don't take any chances, all right.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, Well, I'll call you during this and let you
know what I'm doing. And and I'm just gonna be
unburdened by what has been dude, and vote for Kamala, right, yeah,
oh boy, what a beauty.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
The incomparable David Tye and my buddy Hutch down there
right in the path of Milton, and we send our
prayers to him and everybody in that region.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
For sure.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's right, that's right. There's two of them, Winston most
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