Erick Erickson, WSB Atlanta radio host, joins Ryan with his take on the 2024 Presidential campaign, the communist economic policies of Kamala Harris, and the start of the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.
Plus, Rob Dawson of KOA News joins Ryan with a live report on the ground from outside the DNC in Chicago, where protesters breach a portion of the fencing around the perimeter of the event.
Plus, Rob Dawson of KOA News joins Ryan with a live report on the ground from outside the DNC in Chicago, where protesters breach a portion of the fencing around the perimeter of the event.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You unveiled your on economic policies last week. Can you
explain how you're going to pay for those and can
you give us a sense of what other policies you
want to unveil going forward.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Well, I mean you just look at it in terms
of what we are.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Talking about, for example, around children and the child tax
Credit and extending the EVTC that it's at six thousand
dollars for the first year of look of the child's life.
The return on that investment, in terms of what that
will do and what it will.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Pay for, will be tremendous. We've seen it when we
did it the first year of our administration.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We reduced top.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Poviously by over fifty percent, So.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That's a lot of the work.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And then what we're doing in terms of the tax credits, we.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Know that there's a great return on that investment.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And when we increase home ownership in America, what that
means in terms of increasing the tax base, NOTTI MENTUC
property tax base, what that does to fund schools. Again,
return on investment. I think it's a mistake for any
person who talks about public policy to not critically evaluate
how you measure the returns when you are strengthening neighborhood,
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strengthening communities, and in particular the economy of busmus and
investing in a broad based economy, everybody benefits and it
pays for itself.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
In terms of return on investment. There is a return
on investment. This is one of the only questions Kamala
Harris has been asked in now the twenty nine days
since she's been the presumptive nominee. Was just as she
got off of a bus at the Democratic National Convention
in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Ryan Schuling with you on.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Six point thirty k how and reaching across to Atlanta, Georgia,
where he is the host of the twelve to three
PM program.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Used to occupy the slot was.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Rush Limbaugh and Eric Ericson was a fill in host
for rush Limbaugh. You may recall in recent years he
joined us Now, Eric, welcome to the program.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Thank you so much for taking the time.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now, when you.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Hear an answer like that, and it's far from an
isolated incident from Kamala Harris, is it any wonder then
that they are really hiding her away from the media
and na one on one interactions with the media.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
No it's not at all. This is the problem. She
is a walking human word salad in everything she does.
She doesn't have substantive sauces. And part of it is
I think she's she's too scared to actually come out
and say what she really believes, so she hides behind
these platitudes that are just scrambled word salads.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Eric ericson dot com is where you can find out more.
There's a K in each one of those names, first
and last, so that's easy to follow, and you can
follow his show there as well. Twelve to three pm.
That's Eastern time, ten am to one pm here in
the Mountain time zone. Eric, Tonight, it's unlike anything we've
seen in recent political history, and nothing that I can
think back to, even in terms of Lyndon Baines Johnson
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at the nineteen sixty eight convention, I don't remember there
being a moment like this where the outgoing president who
was removed from the race basically against his will, is
going to be given the stage in the platform. How
is this for Joe Biden anything other than an emasculating
kind of human for him?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Tonight?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Oh, they're going to play it off. I have heard
that the Harris team was not involved in his remarks,
and so it's going to be very interesting for him
to defend his record claim that they have beaten back
in the economy, and then Harris on Thursday night claims
she's going to fight for the American workers and fix
the economy. There is nothing that Joe Biden can say
to absolve the fact that this was a coup among
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the Democrats who oust him.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
He knows that they know it.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
And now there's a report out today for Axios that
he's actually behind the scenes furious at the press coverage
of Harris, believing that they are giving her more favorable,
fawning coverage and that they were in on pushing him aside.
So that angry Joe Biden isn't going to show up tonight,
But the angry Joe Biden is still going to come out.
The Democrats are going to have to work very hard
to continue to hide him somewhere so he can't come
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out and tell people how he really feels.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
There's that part of it, Eric, But then we saw
Joe Biden share the stage with Kamala Harris last week.
That will not be the case here at the convention.
Reports are He's going to have his moment in the
sun kind of riding off into the sunset tonight, and
he and doctor Jill are going to get out of Dodge.
They're not going to stick around for the rest of
the convention in Chicago's there won't be a moment where
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they're joined in hands on the stage, Biden and Harris.
Do you think that that might be a mutually beneficial
In other words, Kamala Harris doesn't want that visual out there,
the optics of her being literally tied to Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That looks like clear.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Apparently that they don't want Joe Biden to be there
the entire week. So yeah, Kamala Harris will have her
own night on stage on Thursday. It should be Joe
Biden's night. It's not going to be having him well
away from there, and you'll know, probably not much on
the campaign trio hereafter. They're essentially they're putting him the
witness Protection program.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Eric Erickson our guest. Of course, he is a host
in Atlanta, Georgia. Let's focus on that for a moment. Eric,
You know the landscape of politics and the state of
Georgia very well. You're not the biggest Donald Trump fan.
I think that's part of the record. And Brian Kemp
is a very popular governor there in Georgia, and he
won reelection by a significant margin over Stacy Abrams and
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the voters of Georgia seem to like him. And Donald
Trump can't help himself but to attack Camp on a
personal level.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
How does the race.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Change going from Biden as the candidate to Harris as
the candidate when it comes to voters in Georgia.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Look, there are more suburban women who vote in Georgia
than there are men, which is part of the problem.
Politico has a report out that the Trump team has
not even asked Brian Kemp to deploy his ground game
in the state. I've confirmed that with the Kemp people
as well that there's been no ask. It doesn't matter,
Kim's still doing it. He's trying to get other Republicans
out there and believes that in getting other Republicans to
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turn out that they'll vote for Trump and hand Trump
the state. I think Trump's going to win the state,
but he's taken a state that was kind of a lock,
and not because of Harris being the replacement, but because
of his attacks on Kemp's a lot of Republicans in
the state who we are going to go to back
for and say why am I doing this? And he's
got to work on that. They sent Lindsey Graham into
the state to try to be a peacemaker with Brian Kemp.
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But I mean, the problem is Trump really can't help
himself and that hurts him with Republicans in Georgia.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I always try to describe it this way, Eric, I mean,
I understand the phenomenon of Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I am a Trump supporter.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
I will be voting for him for a third time,
but I understand the criticisms of him too, and I'm
very frustrated person.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I see you this way as well on Twitter.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
When there's just so many self inflicted wounds that seem
to be preventable, seem to be avoidable, there really is
no need to continue this personal vendetta or whatever this
is against a Brian Kemp. Yeah, he might not be
happy with him, but you know, there are more important
things at stake right now that Donald Trump's personal pride,
and I guess that's the part that he just can't
seem to put aside.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's not within him.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
No, I mean, look, you can't teach an old dog
new tricks. And Donald Trump, this is who he is.
It makes him endearing and frustrating at the same time.
I think that it's kind of baked into the calculus
with his base, that this is who he is. The
question is, does it remind independent voters, who right now
more than fifty percent say they prefer his administration to Biden's.
Does it remind them why they turned against him in
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twenty twenty. My fear is that it might, and in
a very narrow election that matters. This is why the
Hero's team is continuing to be as quiet as they
can because, just like Donald Trump in the month after
the scene in debate said very little to let Biden
flail around, the Hero's team thinks Donald Trump's flailing right now,
So why make news when he's making the news?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Follow him on Exit ew Ericson, That's Ericson with a K.
He is the host from twelve pm to three pm
Eastern time, right there in.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
So, Eric, the point you make is a solid one,
and I guess with what they have to work with
in Kamala Harris, they're going to try to build this
momentum and ride the wave as long as they can,
most notably through this convention, and maybe try to build
up what they would consider to be an instant will
lead mathematically. I don't know that I agree with that.
I don't think that that's plausible. But how much longer
(08:05):
do you think that the Harris camp can hold out
kind of playing dodge them with the media and not
doing a serious sit down interview, not doing a press conference,
not fleshing out anything on policy, not putting any policy
positions on the campaign website.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
How long can they ride that wave?
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Well, she's going to have a debate coming up in
a few weeks, just after Labor Day. But this is
why I've advised the Trump team that they need to
make the media part of this attack. The press not
just Harris. This is the press that covered for Joe
Biden until they pult in, and now they're covering for
Kamala Harris. If you keep attacking the press in that way,
it's going to force them to try to disprove you.
By forcing in to ask Kamala Harris tough questions. The
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only way I think that Trump's going to be able
to get Toma Harris to do these sorts of tough
interviews is to attack the press and claim the presses
on her side.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
When you look at the running made equation here, Eric,
in most elections they don't matter the vice presidential picks,
but it seems like perhaps there's a little bit more
weight really on each side. One because Donald Trump, even
if he wins, he's a one term guy.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So JD.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Fance is then thrust in the spotlight a little bit
more and we've seen that in his interview appearances. And
then with Tim Walls, this is a reflection on where
this ticket might be heading instead of going with a
Josh Shapiro, who seems like he would have been a
really solid pick, especially when Pennsylvania maybe the bellwether state
in this entire election, but they go Walls instead and
he's not really vetted and we're seeing the results of that,
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and Kamala Harris herself really is on the sidelines not
very well defined. Is that the Democrats only path to
victory here is the smoke and mirrors of what they
can make people believe rather than what they actually stand for.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, look, I.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Think that's exactly it. You've got a majority of Americans
support Trump's immigration policy, Trump's economic policy, Trump's crime policies,
and Trump's foreign policies. The only way to dance around
that is to make the hope and change message like
Barack Obama, except now it's joy for Kamala Harrison and
Tim Walls. They've got to avoid substance.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
They've got to do it all.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
I hate to use the word vibes. It's what the
media uses, but they've got to do essentially an emotional
appeal to people that avoids those people having to think
about the issues.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Final question, Eric, can always appreciate your time, your insight,
your analysis here, especially from a swing state that's so
important like Georgia and where your ground zero for a
lot of this and the campaign stops that are going
to be coming your way.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But kind of building on what you said that Trump
should go in on the media JD.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Vans, we've seen him doing that when you guys going
to hold Kamala Harris accountable, when you're going to make
her kind of come out of the woodwork and do
an interview, etc. And you touched down a little bit
right there with the vibes part of this election, the
right brain part of this election. You spoke a little
bit about it too, that there are a lot of
suburban women that are not comfortable with Trump his personality,
his style, his tactics, etc. But they might prefer him
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on policy, whereas a left brain logical approach to voters
definitely favors Trump. I mean, we look at every issue,
that's how it's checking out in the polls, But we're
not getting people to feel that kind of positivity toward
Donald Trump as a candidate.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Is is that baked into the cake? Or is there
room and.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Maybe just enough room for Donald Trump to make headway
on that side of the equation, Like you said, the
emotional appeal, You.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Know, I think Donald Trump can turn the anger to
his advantage and say, essentially, you're durn right, I'm angry.
Look at what they've done these four years. Look at
the illegal immigrants killing Americans. Look at the unemployment, look
at your four oh one k look at the crime,
look at the Ford posy, look at the world on fire.
None of this was happening when I was there. Why
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is Kamala Harris so joyous after doing this? I think
there's a way for him to harness that and actually
flip the joy on its head and want to know
why is Kamala hers so happy? Does she not know
what you people.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Are going through? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
There is exactly, there's that disconnect between how people are
feeling out there about their lives and the economy and
where they're heading, and Kamala Harris with this false notion,
it is false of joy? What joy? Where is the joy?
Where's this joy coming from? And just poke holes in
that entire kind of facade, And that's exactly what it is.
You can hear him online. You can seek him out
Eric ericson dot com. There's a K in each one
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of those names, and follow him on ex at ew
Ericson also with the K in there.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Eric, thank you so much for your time. We'll talk
again soon.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
All right, Eric Erickson right there from WSB down there
in Atlanta, Georgia, and looking forward more to the appeal
of Donald Trump and what his message is to voters
and what it's been. I found this sound and I
don't know if I've played it before, but Rhoda Barrett,
she's still with us, she's getting up there in years.
But this is from October of nineteen eighty and it
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really struck me, and I think it'll strike you as
to where Donald Trump's head was at when it came
to politics. He's always been thinking this, but I think
for many years he just figured he was not going
to get into the arena. Something made him get into
the arena. Let's listen to what he had to say.
He's thirty four years old here, so he's younger, I
think than either one of his sons at this point.
(12:52):
And if you look at the video of this, my goodness,
Baron Trump is like a carbon copy of his father.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He really is.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
For some people, the ultimate goal in life has been
becoming the president of the United States.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Would you like to be the president of the United States?
Speaker 10 (13:07):
I really don't believe I would learn it, but I
would like to see somebody as the president who could
do the job.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
And there are very capable people in this.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Country, most people who are capable of not running for office.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
Most men are frightened of politics today. It is a shame,
isn't it. Yes, it is a shame.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
The most capable people are not necessarily running for political office.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
And that is a very sad commentary.
Speaker 10 (13:28):
In the country, they had major corporations and they had
this and that, but they are not running for political office.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
And he had a major corporation at that time. He
was basically taking over for his father in the process.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Of doing that in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
And keep in mind too, that's October nineteen eighty, that
is one month before Ronald Reagan would win the first
of two terms and do so head to head against
Jimmy Carter. But Trump really gives you some foreshadowing here
as to where he stood politically. He's always been a
bit of a maverick. He's all over the place when
it comes the political spectrum. He's not a kind of
an orthodox conservative or center right politician or Republican for
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that matter. I think there was a time when he
would donate to Democrats. He would really take things on
a case by case basis. He would support candidates based
on who they were as individuals and whether he liked
him or not. Donald Trump would give people, in the
most pure form of this phrase, the eyeball test, like
do they pass the eyeball test?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Do I like this person?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And you could say that's somewhat of a shallow analysis,
But if you listen to Donald Trump over the years,
even to present day, he goes a lot on what
he feels about people on like a gut visceral reaction
and feel why wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Someone like yourself run for political office, who have all
the money that you possibly need. You've accomplished a great
deal even though you are only thirty four. I know
there's a lot of things that you possibly can do
in the years ahead. Why wouldn't you dedicate yourself to
public service?
Speaker 9 (14:53):
Because I think it's a very mean life.
Speaker 10 (14:55):
I would love and I would dedicate my life to
this country, but I see it as being a mean life.
And I also see that somebody with strong views and
somebody with the kind of views that are maybe a
little bit unpopular, which may be right, but maybe unpopular,
wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody
with no great brain but a big smile.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Who does that remind you of? Right there?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
That just sent a chill down my spine as to
what we're dealing with here with this counterfeit Joy, this
propaganda that's being readily carried by the likes of Rolling
Stone Magazine and really everybody in the media. You might
have seen this on AX and all these posts. How
does Joy make its way into the headlines of all
these major publications, all of these mainstream media outlets, that
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same word joy.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's eerie, it's weird, it's spooky.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody
with no great brain but a big smile. And that's
a said commentary for the political process.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Television in a strange way has ruined that process, hasn't it.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
It's hurt the process very much.
Speaker 10 (16:01):
I mean the Abraham Lincoln's of the world, Abraham Lincoln
would probably not be electable.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Today because of television. He was not a handsome man
and he did not smile.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well. I think Donald Trump had it right.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
And it's really curious that he said those things forty
four years ago at the age of thirty four, and
how he saw things, and I think there was some
definite wisdom back there from Donald Trump. Now, the other
part of this I want to hit before break. Here's
Rolling Stone magazine and they've got this kind of like
godlike shot. You got to look at this post for
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themselves at Rolling Stone on X. The commentary is why
Kamala Harris new politics of Joy is the best way
to fight fascism, which is such an ironic headline when
you think about it. Then this lead in by Rolling
Stone says history shows that joy and mockery are key
to taking down existing or would be authoritarian regimes.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It's the exact opposite.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
And I posted this on x make sure to follow
me there if you're not already at Ryan Schuling sh
Uilng and my comment was as follows. Joy in quotes
is an abstract artificial construct repeatedly used in history by
authoritorian regimes. See Stalin Mao, Nazi Germany examples below. This
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Rolling Stone article is patently and mockably insane. I find
these images online quick search. There's a megaphone being held
by this Nazi coordinator.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
They're doing some.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Calisthetics or whatever athletic activities, and on the megaphone it
says the following strength through joy.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Berlin athlete. Those are the Nazis.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
This propaganda piece from the Maoist Chinese, and there were
so many brutalities committed against the Chinese people if they
did not get in line and follow Mao.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It says, I love.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Mao Zaidong's four positive red flags and guide people with
a thousand pieces of gold. And then this one from Stalin.
It's like an Easter photo, like a whole bunch of
kids smiling. Pretty creepy, and it has the inscription as
follows nineteen forty nine. We are warmed by Stalin's affection.
We carry joy and happiness. We are sunny Georgian children
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singing a song to Stalin. This is the stuff of
authoritarian regimes. Joy is part of that. It doesn't combat it.
Ryan shooting back with more Rob Dawson live from Chicago next.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, I already hear commotion.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Ryan shooting with you live here in Denver six point
thirty k how and we're joined now live from Chicago,
Illinois side of the Democratic Natural Convention beginning tonight, and
Rob Dawson from KOA News is on foot.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Rob, where are you? What's going on? Are you okay?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Yeah, we're fine. I am at a park right now,
and I would say we're about a quarter mile or
so away from then to the United Center and pretty
close to where the barriers are in the secure zone. Obviously,
as you could hear, as we are familiar with the
a rare of protests, that this is a pro Palestinian
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demonstration and the people here are upset with both political parties,
especially Vice President Kambalo Harris, who is the star this week,
and yet she has this to contend with.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Now, Rob, you sent me a photo here of a
young lady with a chant booklet.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Have you gotten your hands on one of these? What
is it?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No?
Speaker 7 (19:37):
I have not gotten my hands on this, But you know,
the whole thing seems very coordinated. We've talked about this
many times, especially with the area, but this was the
first time I wet my eyes on a little booklet
that not everybody. You know. The picture that I had
was a chance leader consulting the buck. So that's probably
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not great. If she's a leader, she has to look
at it. But this is this is how coordinated it is. Again,
remember how long have these protests been going since passover
this year? Correct? So now approaching four months. So the
playbook is out. The people who are participating have obviously
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watched these or have been a part of these another
parts of the country, and that's uh that they are
well prepared with their chance.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Rob Dawson Kawai News joining us live from Chicago. No, Rob,
have you tried to interact with any of these protesters?
Have they been friendly to you or hostor what have
you gotten?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Surprisingly, and this is a different from our area. I
few have been willing to talk about. I talked to
them more when they were in the park, not necessarily here.
I feel like here they're they're much more motivated to chant.
And I talked to the reporters earlier. It was a
little bit more pleasant.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
But I talked to two women in particular, and they
are just upset with the two party system and they
say that a third party would be sympathetic to divesting
from Israel completely and sympathizing with the Palestinians, particularly women
and children who have been hard. But then I asked
one of the women, I said, well, what happens if
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neither party will follows her with anything that you say?
Whatap is? If they don't want to follow her what
you say, will this protest all be for not? And
one of the women who said the phrase that is
the theme for Monday of this dimension said, well, wait
a minute. You know when it says for the people,
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that means they have to listen.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
I mean, okay, that's literally accurate. It's a good interpretation.
Rob Dawson joining us KOI News live from Chicago. Now,
are there candidates they might consider? There have been a
couple I know that have made a play for these
pro Palestinian protesters, most notably Cornell West, but also doctor
Jill Stein. I know that they have been pulling consistently
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around one percent. Do these protesters feel like those two
might just be throwing their votes away and they just
want to try to move the Democratic Party more in
their direction. They feel that they can get there with
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
You know, I was trying to think about that. Do
they think all hope is lost with Tamala or do
they think that there's a chance to sway her. I
talked to one protester who has really bothered that Tamala
Harris basically told the protesters in Detroit to be quiet. Yeah, right,
and that was really bothersome to him. Cornell West folks,
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And at this event today he got a Rocko as chair.
Hold on one Second'm just trying to hear some instructions here.
We might be able to move again right here, So
they want to get the saying about going to the
streets to march again.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I'm hearing the echoes.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
There, join us in the streets, so we can march again.
I don't know if you heard that I did.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I did exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
So now you're immersed in this crowd, rob And yeah,
there's been reports, like you said, you kind of stated there.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
They've built a perimeter both.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Of the Chicago Police Department and physical barriers walls. I
find to be very ironic to protect the Democrats.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Hang on, Ryan, I'm not sure. Hold on, they've breached
the barrier a little bit. I just noticed a hole
in the barrier here. Oh really, I've noticed a hole
in the barrier on one side of the road. I'm
walking towards it. I just turned my head and saw it.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Now, you said breach the barrier, they are.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
They continuing on barrier that has a hole in them.
Right down Now there's also a jersey wall, and now
they're trying to go to the other side here, Ryan,
they're trying to they're trying to push the fence down
on the other side of the street. Okay, okay, so
we're going to stay with you right here. Yeah, I
think now people are hopping over the jersey barrier. I'm
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going to stay right here and try to watch them
from the fence. Dry And I don't think I want
to get in this yere. No, but I can see
them and they they have they have that two actually
before I can't. Four sections offencing have come down, fourth
sections defensing have come down. This is this is the
regular barrier that was that the Republican and the Democratic
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gets blacked then, And this is what's happening. Uh, this
is a street. We're still about a quarter a mile
away from the United States.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yeah, but the protesters themselves took down this portion of
the wall or they found a hill in the wall.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Uh, hard to tell. They're pushing on it. They were
pushing on it before. And I thought that they were
assumed that President Biden was going to drive down the
street that's blocked off right now. O. So, but he's not.
We had now, but I had since heard that he
was in a couple of hours ago for a sound
check at the podium.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Are there any Chicago PD there?
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Rob hard to see them. It's hard to see them
through here. I mean, they're definitely not at this barrier
right now. And now they're cutting around the other one
that is not down. So now people are in the
streets in this particular street in front of me. Again,
it's very hard to see now what is being allowed
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and what's not. That's what I would characterize it.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Right now, how would you describe Rob? And this will
be what I leave our listeners with.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
I want to just give a play by play here coming.
I went to the bottom of the fence. They're they're
trying to slide pieces of the fence down. And now
they're using a hammer or a stick or something to
beat the bottom of the fence because I think it
could quick up. I think it could play up. And
now one piece is just falling again. That's one and
now here's the second barrier right now?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Rob, right now?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, real quick?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Can you compare what you saw in Milwaukee at the
r n C under similar circumstances to what you're watching
and witnessing right now.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
The protesters were so far away in Milwaukee, that's the problem.
You know, we didn't even see him. We heard them
off in the distance. Yeah, this is closer, and they
are just taking barrier pieces one by one off. And
I'm not saying any officers near me right now.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
The protesters in Milwaukee that you talked about that were
heard but not seen, were they the same kind of protesters?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Pro Palestinian protesters.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yes, they're wearing masks, all black. This guy with a
hard hat, it seems to be directing the barrier taking
down here.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's the leader.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Okay, but these were the same types of protesters as
we're in Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yes, okay, Well, I actually I should say I'm sorry.
I wasn't answering because I'm being jastled around here a
little bigger. I just made it actually onto the street here. Yeah,
trying to look at what's happening on the other side
of the fence. There is Chicago PD. Good, but they're
on a side street just watching here.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Okay, Hey, rob, yeah, don't die.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
I will try not say. I think we're okay right now.
But okay, it's just you know, this barrier coming down
is different than.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
The Yeah, but I mean this, I'm worried sick about you.
You keep yourself safe and if you got to get
out of there, U GTFO all.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Right, okay, we'll do all right, I robbed us.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
And wow, how about that for a live report in
real time at the barriers being taken down. I thought
we might be getting like some nineteen sixty eight vibes
their Vietnam protests.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And I'm not.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Joking when I'm a little bit worried about Rob. I
am more than zero percent worried about Rob right now,
if that makes sense. So I'm going to take the
time out. Your thoughts on what you heard five seven
seven three nine.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Start those.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Ryan Kelly's a little worried too, Are you worried in
the listening audience? Because Rob is near and dear to us.
He's a good guy, he's a good reporter. He's there, yes,
trying to do his job. Okay, you must be the
other guy. So take this time out. Let me know
your thoughts on the DNC tonight. President Biden going to
give his farewell address, it'll amount to that at least,
and then they're going to shuffle him off and he's
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not going to be anywhere near the convention as long
as Kamala is around. What do you make of that
that they're trying to keep him away from her? Don't
want the stench of the Biden economy attached to her?
Will they succeed in this endeavor? Five seven seven thirty nine.
We do have I know you've been waiting for it.
Deep thoughts by Vice President Kamala Harris coming up next
on six point thirty.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Km and now Deep Thoughts by Vice President Kamala.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Harris, the Governor and I and we were all doing
a tour of the library here and I'm talking about
the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance
of the passage of time. So when you think about it,
there is great significance to the passage of time in
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terms of what we need to do to lay these wires,
what we need to do to create these jobs. And
there is such great significance to the passage of time
when we think about a day in the life of
our children.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I am still working with Kelly Kuchera on doing a
Kamala Harris impression, but I think I'm honing in on it.
You know, I'm a person that fancies myself pretty decent
at doing these impressions. But they start you make like
a caricatured chart. What are their go to sayings and phrases.
And I've just picked up on one. She says, it's
a crutch phrase in terms of she said it again
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there only one time there, but she said in terms
of blah blah blah, and four times four times she
said the significance of the passage of time.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Significance of the passage of time means that we have
great significance with the passage of time.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
It's see, you're on the right track on that kind
of assent toward the Kamala voice. Now, what you'll need
to do is insert some You gotta kind of get
back in your throat register.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I can't do it because I have my laugh.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's unique. Your laugh's unique. Her
laugh is just monstrous.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I don't know if I can do it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You can try it. I can't kind there. I think.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Just go home and work on it, record it, play
it back to yourself.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, I'm very serious.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You honestly think that I have.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like that right there, like the remember when I went
on the Tuna mayonnaise kick on Friday. There you go.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
You just you have to channel her there. Yeah, we
need you to do that. I don't ask for much
around here. You're gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know if I could do it.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
We talk about the Kamala drinking game, which if you
had been drinking every time.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
She said this thing, I hand send them passage, you
would be drunk right now. And I would congratulate you.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But here's another idea from this texture five seven seven
three nine. Because of the convention, Ryan, I think you
should make a drinking game for Dan shows today.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You need to take a shot.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Every time Dan brings up his dad being a Chicago cop, well,
I gotta tell you this, if we had mister capitalist
Dan's father there, you know, if he was alive and
around and able to do that job, we'd be a
lot better off. You know, he was a top of
the line cop in his own right, and we could
use a lot more of him in the Chicago PD.
And I'm hoping that they're all safe, and there's so
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many of them. If you saw this that they have
militarized the police, I'm not against that. I'm just saying
the Democrats are. They want to defund the police, they
want to abolish ice, they want less police.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Kambaloa.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Harris is on the record multiple times saying more police
is not equal more safety. She said that, yet there
is a very strong police presence in Chicago, as there
should be because there are maniacs protesting who you just heard.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I don't even know where Rob Dawson is right now.
They could have carried him away. I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, I'm worried about them a little bit, because these
people are freaks, they're nuts, They're absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Alexis says I.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Bet Kamala could not actually explain how ROI works return
on investment. Also, she never explained how to actually pay
for it. You can't pay with return on investment. That's
such a great point and that was what she was asked.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Yes, oh, I wanted to talk about this. Maybe we'll
get into more detailed rob tomorrow. The DNC abortion on
demand is disgraceful. I thought this was a hard, well
thought out decision between a woman and her doctor.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Good point.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
This feels callous, cruel and cold and as a way
to carry out a life changing procedure. Think about this too.
They're offering in this it looks like a food truck. Okay,
they've got this food truck. But in this food truck
you can have an abortion performed. I think it's with
the pill the morning after whatever. But for the jet
element out there, for the betas, you can also get
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a vasectomy. What do those two procedures have in common?
They prevent conception and reduced population, which I mean, if
you're going to ask.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Me the cold hard facts, think about this.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
If we have more traditional conservative Republican families having more
children and these atheistic leftists that don't want kids are
not having kids, fast forward twenty years, who's winning elections
at that point? I want, if they want, hey, don't
It's like Bob Barker here, you know, don't forget to
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have your Democrat Spader newtered. I mean, that's literally what's
happening here in large part, So thanks for that text.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Texter Brian, it's an insurrection where Rob is I mean maybe,
and then Kimberly finally here. You know, I'm a huge
advocate to bar biological males and sports. I believe that
I'm a Khalif has been used as a red herring
without any bona fide true. I said, if we carte
Blanche believed the boxing Federation that they're the two fighters,
we might as well have believed Shifty Shift. Also, I
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think we are trying to micromanage the unfair advantages. I've
also said before that XX and x Y both have
multiple other metrics. Before you know it, will we will
disqualify a Michael Fels because he's taller. I get the
slippery slope aspect of your statement here, Kimberly, and I
do want to do more research because that is a
gray area with the xxy.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
To me, it's just you have a why you're not
a woman.
You unveiled your on economic policies last week. Can you
explain how you're going to pay for those and can
you give us a sense of what other policies you
want to unveil going forward.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Sure?
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Well, I mean you just look at it in terms
of what we are.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
Talking about, for example, around children and the child tax
Credit and extending the EVTC that it's at six thousand
dollars for the first year of look of the child's life.
The return on that investment, in terms of what that
will do and what it will.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Pay for, will be tremendous. We've seen it when we
did it the first year of our administration.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We reduced top.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Poviously by over fifty percent, So.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
That's a lot of the work.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
And then what we're doing in terms of the tax credits, we.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Know that there's a great return on that investment.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
And when we increase home ownership in America, what that
means in terms of increasing the tax base, NOTTI MENTUC
property tax base, what that does to fund schools. Again,
return on investment. I think it's a mistake for any
person who talks about public policy to not critically evaluate
how you measure the returns when you are strengthening neighborhood,
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strengthening communities, and in particular the economy of busmus and
investing in a broad based economy, everybody benefits and it
pays for itself.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
In terms of return on investment. There is a return
on investment. This is one of the only questions Kamala
Harris has been asked in now the twenty nine days
since she's been the presumptive nominee. Was just as she
got off of a bus at the Democratic National Convention
in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Ryan Schuling with you on.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Six point thirty k how and reaching across to Atlanta, Georgia,
where he is the host of the twelve to three
PM program.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Used to occupy the slot was.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Rush Limbaugh and Eric Ericson was a fill in host
for rush Limbaugh. You may recall in recent years he
joined us Now, Eric, welcome to the program.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Thank you so much for taking the time.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Now, when you.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Hear an answer like that, and it's far from an
isolated incident from Kamala Harris, is it any wonder then
that they are really hiding her away from the media
and na one on one interactions with the media.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
No it's not at all. This is the problem. She
is a walking human word salad in everything she does.
She doesn't have substantive sauces. And part of it is
I think she's she's too scared to actually come out
and say what she really believes, so she hides behind
these platitudes that are just scrambled word salads.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Eric ericson dot com is where you can find out more.
There's a K in each one of those names, first
and last, so that's easy to follow, and you can
follow his show there as well. Twelve to three pm.
That's Eastern time, ten am to one pm here in
the Mountain time zone. Eric, Tonight, it's unlike anything we've
seen in recent political history, and nothing that I can
think back to, even in terms of Lyndon Baines Johnson
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at the nineteen sixty eight convention, I don't remember there
being a moment like this where the outgoing president who
was removed from the race basically against his will, is
going to be given the stage in the platform. How
is this for Joe Biden anything other than an emasculating
kind of human for him?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Tonight?
Speaker 6 (03:01):
Oh, they're going to play it off. I have heard
that the Harris team was not involved in his remarks,
and so it's going to be very interesting for him
to defend his record claim that they have beaten back
in the economy, and then Harris on Thursday night claims
she's going to fight for the American workers and fix
the economy. There is nothing that Joe Biden can say
to absolve the fact that this was a coup among
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the Democrats who oust him.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
He knows that they know it.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
And now there's a report out today for Axios that
he's actually behind the scenes furious at the press coverage
of Harris, believing that they are giving her more favorable,
fawning coverage and that they were in on pushing him aside.
So that angry Joe Biden isn't going to show up tonight,
But the angry Joe Biden is still going to come out.
The Democrats are going to have to work very hard
to continue to hide him somewhere so he can't come
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out and tell people how he really feels.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
There's that part of it, Eric, But then we saw
Joe Biden share the stage with Kamala Harris last week.
That will not be the case here at the convention.
Reports are He's going to have his moment in the
sun kind of riding off into the sunset tonight, and
he and doctor Jill are going to get out of Dodge.
They're not going to stick around for the rest of
the convention in Chicago's there won't be a moment where
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they're joined in hands on the stage, Biden and Harris.
Do you think that that might be a mutually beneficial
In other words, Kamala Harris doesn't want that visual out there,
the optics of her being literally tied to Joe Biden.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That looks like clear.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
Apparently that they don't want Joe Biden to be there
the entire week. So yeah, Kamala Harris will have her
own night on stage on Thursday. It should be Joe
Biden's night. It's not going to be having him well
away from there, and you'll know, probably not much on
the campaign trio hereafter. They're essentially they're putting him the
witness Protection program.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Eric Erickson our guest. Of course, he is a host
in Atlanta, Georgia. Let's focus on that for a moment. Eric,
You know the landscape of politics and the state of
Georgia very well. You're not the biggest Donald Trump fan.
I think that's part of the record. And Brian Kemp
is a very popular governor there in Georgia, and he
won reelection by a significant margin over Stacy Abrams and
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the voters of Georgia seem to like him. And Donald
Trump can't help himself but to attack Camp on a
personal level.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
How does the race.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Change going from Biden as the candidate to Harris as
the candidate when it comes to voters in Georgia.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Look, there are more suburban women who vote in Georgia
than there are men, which is part of the problem.
Politico has a report out that the Trump team has
not even asked Brian Kemp to deploy his ground game
in the state. I've confirmed that with the Kemp people
as well that there's been no ask. It doesn't matter,
Kim's still doing it. He's trying to get other Republicans
out there and believes that in getting other Republicans to
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turn out that they'll vote for Trump and hand Trump
the state. I think Trump's going to win the state,
but he's taken a state that was kind of a lock,
and not because of Harris being the replacement, but because
of his attacks on Kemp's a lot of Republicans in
the state who we are going to go to back
for and say why am I doing this? And he's
got to work on that. They sent Lindsey Graham into
the state to try to be a peacemaker with Brian Kemp.
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But I mean, the problem is Trump really can't help
himself and that hurts him with Republicans in Georgia.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
I always try to describe it this way, Eric, I mean,
I understand the phenomenon of Trump.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I am a Trump supporter.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
I will be voting for him for a third time,
but I understand the criticisms of him too, and I'm
very frustrated person.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I see you this way as well on Twitter.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
When there's just so many self inflicted wounds that seem
to be preventable, seem to be avoidable, there really is
no need to continue this personal vendetta or whatever this
is against a Brian Kemp. Yeah, he might not be
happy with him, but you know, there are more important
things at stake right now that Donald Trump's personal pride,
and I guess that's the part that he just can't
seem to put aside.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
It's not within him.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
No, I mean, look, you can't teach an old dog
new tricks. And Donald Trump, this is who he is.
It makes him endearing and frustrating at the same time.
I think that it's kind of baked into the calculus
with his base, that this is who he is. The
question is, does it remind independent voters, who right now
more than fifty percent say they prefer his administration to Biden's.
Does it remind them why they turned against him in
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twenty twenty. My fear is that it might, and in
a very narrow election that matters. This is why the
Hero's team is continuing to be as quiet as they
can because, just like Donald Trump in the month after
the scene in debate said very little to let Biden
flail around, the Hero's team thinks Donald Trump's flailing right now,
So why make news when he's making the news?
Speaker 5 (07:34):
Follow him on Exit ew Ericson, That's Ericson with a K.
He is the host from twelve pm to three pm
Eastern time, right there in.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
So, Eric, the point you make is a solid one,
and I guess with what they have to work with
in Kamala Harris, they're going to try to build this
momentum and ride the wave as long as they can,
most notably through this convention, and maybe try to build
up what they would consider to be an instant will
lead mathematically. I don't know that I agree with that.
I don't think that that's plausible. But how much longer
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do you think that the Harris camp can hold out
kind of playing dodge them with the media and not
doing a serious sit down interview, not doing a press conference,
not fleshing out anything on policy, not putting any policy
positions on the campaign website.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
How long can they ride that wave?
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Well, she's going to have a debate coming up in
a few weeks, just after Labor Day. But this is
why I've advised the Trump team that they need to
make the media part of this attack. The press not
just Harris. This is the press that covered for Joe
Biden until they pult in, and now they're covering for
Kamala Harris. If you keep attacking the press in that way,
it's going to force them to try to disprove you.
By forcing in to ask Kamala Harris tough questions. The
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only way I think that Trump's going to be able
to get Toma Harris to do these sorts of tough
interviews is to attack the press and claim the presses
on her side.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
When you look at the running made equation here, Eric,
in most elections they don't matter the vice presidential picks,
but it seems like perhaps there's a little bit more
weight really on each side. One because Donald Trump, even
if he wins, he's a one term guy.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
So JD.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Fance is then thrust in the spotlight a little bit
more and we've seen that in his interview appearances. And
then with Tim Walls, this is a reflection on where
this ticket might be heading instead of going with a
Josh Shapiro, who seems like he would have been a
really solid pick, especially when Pennsylvania maybe the bellwether state
in this entire election, but they go Walls instead and
he's not really vetted and we're seeing the results of that,
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and Kamala Harris herself really is on the sidelines not
very well defined. Is that the Democrats only path to
victory here is the smoke and mirrors of what they
can make people believe rather than what they actually stand for.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, look, I.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Think that's exactly it. You've got a majority of Americans
support Trump's immigration policy, Trump's economic policy, Trump's crime policies,
and Trump's foreign policies. The only way to dance around
that is to make the hope and change message like
Barack Obama, except now it's joy for Kamala Harrison and
Tim Walls. They've got to avoid substance.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
They've got to do it all.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
I hate to use the word vibes. It's what the
media uses, but they've got to do essentially an emotional
appeal to people that avoids those people having to think
about the issues.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Final question, Eric, can always appreciate your time, your insight,
your analysis here, especially from a swing state that's so
important like Georgia and where your ground zero for a
lot of this and the campaign stops that are going
to be coming your way.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
But kind of building on what you said that Trump
should go in on the media JD.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Vans, we've seen him doing that when you guys going
to hold Kamala Harris accountable, when you're going to make
her kind of come out of the woodwork and do
an interview, etc. And you touched down a little bit
right there with the vibes part of this election, the
right brain part of this election. You spoke a little
bit about it too, that there are a lot of
suburban women that are not comfortable with Trump his personality,
his style, his tactics, etc. But they might prefer him
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on policy, whereas a left brain logical approach to voters
definitely favors Trump. I mean, we look at every issue,
that's how it's checking out in the polls, But we're
not getting people to feel that kind of positivity toward
Donald Trump as a candidate.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Is is that baked into the cake? Or is there
room and.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Maybe just enough room for Donald Trump to make headway
on that side of the equation, Like you said, the
emotional appeal, You.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Know, I think Donald Trump can turn the anger to
his advantage and say, essentially, you're durn right, I'm angry.
Look at what they've done these four years. Look at
the illegal immigrants killing Americans. Look at the unemployment, look
at your four oh one k look at the crime,
look at the Ford posy, look at the world on fire.
None of this was happening when I was there. Why
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is Kamala Harris so joyous after doing this? I think
there's a way for him to harness that and actually
flip the joy on its head and want to know
why is Kamala hers so happy? Does she not know
what you people.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
Are going through? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
There is exactly, there's that disconnect between how people are
feeling out there about their lives and the economy and
where they're heading, and Kamala Harris with this false notion,
it is false of joy? What joy? Where is the joy?
Where's this joy coming from? And just poke holes in
that entire kind of facade, And that's exactly what it is.
You can hear him online. You can seek him out
Eric ericson dot com. There's a K in each one
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of those names, and follow him on ex at ew
Ericson also with the K in there.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Eric, thank you so much for your time. We'll talk
again soon.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
All right, Eric Erickson right there from WSB down there
in Atlanta, Georgia, and looking forward more to the appeal
of Donald Trump and what his message is to voters
and what it's been. I found this sound and I
don't know if I've played it before, but Rhoda Barrett,
she's still with us, she's getting up there in years.
But this is from October of nineteen eighty and it
(12:32):
really struck me, and I think it'll strike you as
to where Donald Trump's head was at when it came
to politics. He's always been thinking this, but I think
for many years he just figured he was not going
to get into the arena. Something made him get into
the arena. Let's listen to what he had to say.
He's thirty four years old here, so he's younger, I
think than either one of his sons at this point.
(12:52):
And if you look at the video of this, my goodness,
Baron Trump is like a carbon copy of his father.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
He really is.
Speaker 8 (12:58):
For some people, the ultimate goal in life has been
becoming the president of the United States.
Speaker 9 (13:04):
Would you like to be the president of the United States?
Speaker 10 (13:07):
I really don't believe I would learn it, but I
would like to see somebody as the president who could
do the job.
Speaker 9 (13:12):
And there are very capable people in this.
Speaker 8 (13:13):
Country, most people who are capable of not running for office.
Speaker 9 (13:17):
Most men are frightened of politics today. It is a shame,
isn't it. Yes, it is a shame.
Speaker 10 (13:21):
The most capable people are not necessarily running for political office.
Speaker 9 (13:26):
And that is a very sad commentary.
Speaker 10 (13:28):
In the country, they had major corporations and they had
this and that, but they are not running for political office.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
And he had a major corporation at that time. He
was basically taking over for his father in the process.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Of doing that in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
And keep in mind too, that's October nineteen eighty, that
is one month before Ronald Reagan would win the first
of two terms and do so head to head against
Jimmy Carter. But Trump really gives you some foreshadowing here
as to where he stood politically. He's always been a
bit of a maverick. He's all over the place when
it comes the political spectrum. He's not a kind of
an orthodox conservative or center right politician or Republican for
(14:07):
that matter. I think there was a time when he
would donate to Democrats. He would really take things on
a case by case basis. He would support candidates based
on who they were as individuals and whether he liked
him or not. Donald Trump would give people, in the
most pure form of this phrase, the eyeball test, like
do they pass the eyeball test?
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Do I like this person?
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And you could say that's somewhat of a shallow analysis,
But if you listen to Donald Trump over the years,
even to present day, he goes a lot on what
he feels about people on like a gut visceral reaction
and feel why wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (14:38):
Someone like yourself run for political office, who have all
the money that you possibly need. You've accomplished a great
deal even though you are only thirty four. I know
there's a lot of things that you possibly can do
in the years ahead. Why wouldn't you dedicate yourself to
public service?
Speaker 9 (14:53):
Because I think it's a very mean life.
Speaker 10 (14:55):
I would love and I would dedicate my life to
this country, but I see it as being a mean life.
And I also see that somebody with strong views and
somebody with the kind of views that are maybe a
little bit unpopular, which may be right, but maybe unpopular,
wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody
with no great brain but a big smile.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Who does that remind you of? Right there?
Speaker 5 (15:19):
That just sent a chill down my spine as to
what we're dealing with here with this counterfeit Joy, this
propaganda that's being readily carried by the likes of Rolling
Stone Magazine and really everybody in the media. You might
have seen this on AX and all these posts. How
does Joy make its way into the headlines of all
these major publications, all of these mainstream media outlets, that
(15:43):
same word joy.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
It's eerie, it's weird, it's spooky.
Speaker 10 (15:48):
Wouldn't necessarily have a chance of getting elected against somebody
with no great brain but a big smile. And that's
a said commentary for the political process.
Speaker 8 (15:56):
Television in a strange way has ruined that process, hasn't it.
Speaker 9 (16:00):
It's hurt the process very much.
Speaker 10 (16:01):
I mean the Abraham Lincoln's of the world, Abraham Lincoln
would probably not be electable.
Speaker 9 (16:06):
Today because of television. He was not a handsome man
and he did not smile.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well. I think Donald Trump had it right.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
And it's really curious that he said those things forty
four years ago at the age of thirty four, and
how he saw things, and I think there was some
definite wisdom back there from Donald Trump. Now, the other
part of this I want to hit before break. Here's
Rolling Stone magazine and they've got this kind of like
godlike shot. You got to look at this post for
(16:35):
themselves at Rolling Stone on X. The commentary is why
Kamala Harris new politics of Joy is the best way
to fight fascism, which is such an ironic headline when
you think about it. Then this lead in by Rolling
Stone says history shows that joy and mockery are key
to taking down existing or would be authoritarian regimes.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It's the exact opposite.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
And I posted this on x make sure to follow
me there if you're not already at Ryan Schuling sh
Uilng and my comment was as follows. Joy in quotes
is an abstract artificial construct repeatedly used in history by
authoritorian regimes. See Stalin Mao, Nazi Germany examples below. This
(17:22):
Rolling Stone article is patently and mockably insane. I find
these images online quick search. There's a megaphone being held
by this Nazi coordinator.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
They're doing some.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Calisthetics or whatever athletic activities, and on the megaphone it
says the following strength through joy.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Berlin athlete. Those are the Nazis.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
This propaganda piece from the Maoist Chinese, and there were
so many brutalities committed against the Chinese people if they
did not get in line and follow Mao.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It says, I love.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Mao Zaidong's four positive red flags and guide people with
a thousand pieces of gold. And then this one from Stalin.
It's like an Easter photo, like a whole bunch of
kids smiling. Pretty creepy, and it has the inscription as
follows nineteen forty nine. We are warmed by Stalin's affection.
We carry joy and happiness. We are sunny Georgian children
(18:17):
singing a song to Stalin. This is the stuff of
authoritarian regimes. Joy is part of that. It doesn't combat it.
Ryan shooting back with more Rob Dawson live from Chicago next.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, I already hear commotion.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Ryan shooting with you live here in Denver six point
thirty k how and we're joined now live from Chicago,
Illinois side of the Democratic Natural Convention beginning tonight, and
Rob Dawson from KOA News is on foot.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Rob, where are you? What's going on? Are you okay?
Speaker 7 (18:52):
Yeah, we're fine. I am at a park right now,
and I would say we're about a quarter mile or
so away from then to the United Center and pretty
close to where the barriers are in the secure zone. Obviously,
as you could hear, as we are familiar with the
a rare of protests, that this is a pro Palestinian
(19:15):
demonstration and the people here are upset with both political parties,
especially Vice President Kambalo Harris, who is the star this week,
and yet she has this to contend with.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Now, Rob, you sent me a photo here of a
young lady with a chant booklet.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Have you gotten your hands on one of these? What
is it?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
No?
Speaker 7 (19:37):
I have not gotten my hands on this, But you know,
the whole thing seems very coordinated. We've talked about this
many times, especially with the area, but this was the
first time I wet my eyes on a little booklet
that not everybody. You know. The picture that I had
was a chance leader consulting the buck. So that's probably
(19:59):
not great. If she's a leader, she has to look
at it. But this is this is how coordinated it is. Again,
remember how long have these protests been going since passover
this year? Correct? So now approaching four months. So the
playbook is out. The people who are participating have obviously
(20:21):
watched these or have been a part of these another
parts of the country, and that's uh that they are
well prepared with their chance.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Rob Dawson Kawai News joining us live from Chicago. No, Rob,
have you tried to interact with any of these protesters?
Have they been friendly to you or hostor what have
you gotten?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (20:37):
Surprisingly, and this is a different from our area. I
few have been willing to talk about. I talked to
them more when they were in the park, not necessarily here.
I feel like here they're they're much more motivated to chant.
And I talked to the reporters earlier. It was a
little bit more pleasant.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
But I talked to two women in particular, and they
are just upset with the two party system and they
say that a third party would be sympathetic to divesting
from Israel completely and sympathizing with the Palestinians, particularly women
and children who have been hard. But then I asked
one of the women, I said, well, what happens if
(21:16):
neither party will follows her with anything that you say?
Whatap is? If they don't want to follow her what
you say, will this protest all be for not? And
one of the women who said the phrase that is
the theme for Monday of this dimension said, well, wait
a minute. You know when it says for the people,
(21:38):
that means they have to listen.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
I mean, okay, that's literally accurate. It's a good interpretation.
Rob Dawson joining us KOI News live from Chicago. Now,
are there candidates they might consider? There have been a
couple I know that have made a play for these
pro Palestinian protesters, most notably Cornell West, but also doctor
Jill Stein. I know that they have been pulling consistently
(22:04):
around one percent. Do these protesters feel like those two
might just be throwing their votes away and they just
want to try to move the Democratic Party more in
their direction. They feel that they can get there with
Kamala Harris.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
You know, I was trying to think about that. Do
they think all hope is lost with Tamala or do
they think that there's a chance to sway her. I
talked to one protester who has really bothered that Tamala
Harris basically told the protesters in Detroit to be quiet. Yeah, right,
and that was really bothersome to him. Cornell West folks,
(22:42):
And at this event today he got a Rocko as chair.
Hold on one Second'm just trying to hear some instructions here.
We might be able to move again right here, So
they want to get the saying about going to the
streets to march again.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
I'm hearing the echoes.
Speaker 7 (23:02):
There, join us in the streets, so we can march again.
I don't know if you heard that I did.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I did exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
So now you're immersed in this crowd, rob And yeah,
there's been reports, like you said, you kind of stated there.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
They've built a perimeter both.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Of the Chicago Police Department and physical barriers walls. I
find to be very ironic to protect the Democrats.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Hang on, Ryan, I'm not sure. Hold on, they've breached
the barrier a little bit. I just noticed a hole
in the barrier here. Oh really, I've noticed a hole
in the barrier on one side of the road. I'm
walking towards it. I just turned my head and saw it.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Now, you said breach the barrier, they are.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
They continuing on barrier that has a hole in them.
Right down Now there's also a jersey wall, and now
they're trying to go to the other side here, Ryan,
they're trying to they're trying to push the fence down
on the other side of the street. Okay, okay, so
we're going to stay with you right here. Yeah, I
think now people are hopping over the jersey barrier. I'm
(24:03):
going to stay right here and try to watch them
from the fence. Dry And I don't think I want
to get in this yere. No, but I can see
them and they they have they have that two actually
before I can't. Four sections offencing have come down, fourth
sections defensing have come down. This is this is the
regular barrier that was that the Republican and the Democratic
(24:24):
gets blacked then, And this is what's happening. Uh, this
is a street. We're still about a quarter a mile
away from the United States.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
Yeah, but the protesters themselves took down this portion of
the wall or they found a hill in the wall.
Speaker 7 (24:38):
Uh, hard to tell. They're pushing on it. They were
pushing on it before. And I thought that they were
assumed that President Biden was going to drive down the
street that's blocked off right now. O. So, but he's not.
We had now, but I had since heard that he
was in a couple of hours ago for a sound
check at the podium.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Are there any Chicago PD there?
Speaker 7 (25:01):
Rob hard to see them. It's hard to see them
through here. I mean, they're definitely not at this barrier
right now. And now they're cutting around the other one
that is not down. So now people are in the
streets in this particular street in front of me. Again,
it's very hard to see now what is being allowed
(25:21):
and what's not. That's what I would characterize it.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Right now, how would you describe Rob? And this will
be what I leave our listeners with.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
I want to just give a play by play here coming.
I went to the bottom of the fence. They're they're
trying to slide pieces of the fence down. And now
they're using a hammer or a stick or something to
beat the bottom of the fence because I think it
could quick up. I think it could play up. And
now one piece is just falling again. That's one and
now here's the second barrier right now?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Wow?
Speaker 7 (25:51):
Rob, right now?
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, real quick?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Can you compare what you saw in Milwaukee at the
r n C under similar circumstances to what you're watching
and witnessing right now.
Speaker 7 (26:00):
The protesters were so far away in Milwaukee, that's the problem.
You know, we didn't even see him. We heard them
off in the distance. Yeah, this is closer, and they
are just taking barrier pieces one by one off. And
I'm not saying any officers near me right now.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
The protesters in Milwaukee that you talked about that were
heard but not seen, were they the same kind of protesters?
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Pro Palestinian protesters.
Speaker 7 (26:24):
Yes, they're wearing masks, all black. This guy with a
hard hat, it seems to be directing the barrier taking
down here.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's the leader.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
Okay, but these were the same types of protesters as
we're in Milwaukee.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
Yes, okay, Well, I actually I should say I'm sorry.
I wasn't answering because I'm being jastled around here a
little bigger. I just made it actually onto the street here. Yeah,
trying to look at what's happening on the other side
of the fence. There is Chicago PD. Good, but they're
on a side street just watching here.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Okay, Hey, rob, yeah, don't die.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
I will try not say. I think we're okay right now.
But okay, it's just you know, this barrier coming down
is different than.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
The Yeah, but I mean this, I'm worried sick about you.
You keep yourself safe and if you got to get
out of there, U GTFO all.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Right, okay, we'll do all right, I robbed us.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
And wow, how about that for a live report in
real time at the barriers being taken down. I thought
we might be getting like some nineteen sixty eight vibes
their Vietnam protests.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
And I'm not.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Joking when I'm a little bit worried about Rob. I
am more than zero percent worried about Rob right now,
if that makes sense. So I'm going to take the
time out. Your thoughts on what you heard five seven
seven three nine.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Start those.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Ryan Kelly's a little worried too, Are you worried in
the listening audience? Because Rob is near and dear to us.
He's a good guy, he's a good reporter. He's there, yes,
trying to do his job. Okay, you must be the
other guy. So take this time out. Let me know
your thoughts on the DNC tonight. President Biden going to
give his farewell address, it'll amount to that at least,
and then they're going to shuffle him off and he's
(28:10):
not going to be anywhere near the convention as long
as Kamala is around. What do you make of that
that they're trying to keep him away from her? Don't
want the stench of the Biden economy attached to her?
Will they succeed in this endeavor? Five seven seven thirty nine.
We do have I know you've been waiting for it.
Deep thoughts by Vice President Kamala Harris coming up next
on six point thirty.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Km and now Deep Thoughts by Vice President Kamala.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Harris, the Governor and I and we were all doing
a tour of the library here and I'm talking about
the significance of the passage of time, right, the significance
of the passage of time. So when you think about it,
there is great significance to the passage of time in
(29:01):
terms of what we need to do to lay these wires,
what we need to do to create these jobs. And
there is such great significance to the passage of time
when we think about a day in the life of
our children.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
I am still working with Kelly Kuchera on doing a
Kamala Harris impression, but I think I'm honing in on it.
You know, I'm a person that fancies myself pretty decent
at doing these impressions. But they start you make like
a caricatured chart. What are their go to sayings and phrases.
And I've just picked up on one. She says, it's
a crutch phrase in terms of she said it again
(29:39):
there only one time there, but she said in terms
of blah blah blah, and four times four times she
said the significance of the passage of time.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Significance of the passage of time means that we have
great significance with the passage of time.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
It's see, you're on the right track on that kind
of assent toward the Kamala voice. Now, what you'll need
to do is insert some You gotta kind of get
back in your throat register.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
I can't do it because I have my laugh.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Yeah, yeah, I know it's unique. Your laugh's unique. Her
laugh is just monstrous.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I don't know if I can do it.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
You can try it. I can't kind there. I think.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Just go home and work on it, record it, play
it back to yourself.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, I'm very serious.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
You honestly think that I have.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Like that right there, like the remember when I went
on the Tuna mayonnaise kick on Friday. There you go.
Speaker 5 (30:46):
You just you have to channel her there. Yeah, we
need you to do that. I don't ask for much
around here. You're gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
I don't know if I could do it.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
We talk about the Kamala drinking game, which if you
had been drinking every time.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
She said this thing, I hand send them passage, you
would be drunk right now. And I would congratulate you.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
But here's another idea from this texture five seven seven
three nine. Because of the convention, Ryan, I think you
should make a drinking game for Dan shows today.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
You need to take a shot.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
Every time Dan brings up his dad being a Chicago cop, well,
I gotta tell you this, if we had mister capitalist
Dan's father there, you know, if he was alive and
around and able to do that job, we'd be a
lot better off. You know, he was a top of
the line cop in his own right, and we could
use a lot more of him in the Chicago PD.
And I'm hoping that they're all safe, and there's so
(31:38):
many of them. If you saw this that they have
militarized the police, I'm not against that. I'm just saying
the Democrats are. They want to defund the police, they
want to abolish ice, they want less police.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Kambaloa.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Harris is on the record multiple times saying more police
is not equal more safety. She said that, yet there
is a very strong police presence in Chicago, as there
should be because there are maniacs protesting who you just heard.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
I don't even know where Rob Dawson is right now.
They could have carried him away. I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, I'm worried about them a little bit, because these
people are freaks, they're nuts, They're absolutely insane.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Alexis says I.
Speaker 5 (32:12):
Bet Kamala could not actually explain how ROI works return
on investment. Also, she never explained how to actually pay
for it. You can't pay with return on investment. That's
such a great point and that was what she was asked.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Correct.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Yes, oh, I wanted to talk about this. Maybe we'll
get into more detailed rob tomorrow. The DNC abortion on
demand is disgraceful. I thought this was a hard, well
thought out decision between a woman and her doctor.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Good point.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
This feels callous, cruel and cold and as a way
to carry out a life changing procedure. Think about this too.
They're offering in this it looks like a food truck. Okay,
they've got this food truck. But in this food truck
you can have an abortion performed. I think it's with
the pill the morning after whatever. But for the jet
element out there, for the betas, you can also get
(33:02):
a vasectomy. What do those two procedures have in common?
They prevent conception and reduced population, which I mean, if
you're going to ask.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Me the cold hard facts, think about this.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
If we have more traditional conservative Republican families having more
children and these atheistic leftists that don't want kids are
not having kids, fast forward twenty years, who's winning elections
at that point? I want, if they want, hey, don't
It's like Bob Barker here, you know, don't forget to
(33:37):
have your Democrat Spader newtered. I mean, that's literally what's
happening here in large part, So thanks for that text.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Appreciate that.
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Texter Brian, it's an insurrection where Rob is I mean maybe,
and then Kimberly finally here. You know, I'm a huge
advocate to bar biological males and sports. I believe that
I'm a Khalif has been used as a red herring
without any bona fide true. I said, if we carte
Blanche believed the boxing Federation that they're the two fighters,
we might as well have believed Shifty Shift. Also, I
(34:09):
think we are trying to micromanage the unfair advantages. I've
also said before that XX and x Y both have
multiple other metrics. Before you know it, will we will
disqualify a Michael Fels because he's taller. I get the
slippery slope aspect of your statement here, Kimberly, and I
do want to do more research because that is a
gray area with the xxy.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
To me, it's just you have a why you're not
a woman.
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