Mike Davis, founder of the Article 3 Project, joins Ryan to discuss his resolute support for Kash Patel as Donald Trump's nominee for FBI Director and gives his legal perspective on the unprecedented sweeping pardon for Hunter Biden by President Joe Biden.
George Brauchler, newly-elected to serve as the 21st judicial district's first district attorney, joins Ryan to discuss his latest op-ed for The Denver Gazette: 'Springs mayor owes public some answers.'
Springs mayor owes public some answers | George Brauchler | Opinion | gazette.com
George Brauchler, newly-elected to serve as the 21st judicial district's first district attorney, joins Ryan to discuss his latest op-ed for The Denver Gazette: 'Springs mayor owes public some answers.'
Springs mayor owes public some answers | George Brauchler | Opinion | gazette.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I think Cash Battel is a very strong nominee. I
think the entire slate of cabinet nominees President Trump is
put forward.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Is very strong.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I believe every one of these cabinet nominees is going
to be confirmed.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
By the Senate.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I think Cash Battel is going to be confirmed by
the Senate. You look at his background. He has a
serious professional background. He was a prosecutor, He was a
public defender. He was a senior intelligence staffer on Capitol Hill.
He was a senior intelligence staffer in the White House.
He was the chief of staff of the Department of Defense.
He was the deputy director of National Intelligence.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Strong endorsement Senator Ted Cruz singing the praises of Cash
Patello as the potential director of the FBI and Trump's
nominee for that post. So a lot of good reasons
to support his nomination. So why are those in the
FBI and our bureaucracies in Washington so against it?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Cruz had thoughts on.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That, and I got to say, all of the weeping
and gnashing of teeth, all of the people pulling their
hair out, are exactly the people who are dismayed about
having a real reformer come into the FBI and clean
out the corrupted partisans who sadly have burrowed into senior
career positions at the FBI. The FBI and the Department
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of Justice, or two institutions incredibly important to the rule
of law in the United States. I revere both, and
one of the most tragic consequences of four years of
Joe Biden Kamala Harris is both DOJ and the FBI
have been politicized and weaponized. And I think Cash Battel
is a very strong nominee to take on the partisan
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corruption in the FBI.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You're here in joining me now, Ryan Schuling with you.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
He is a self described viceroy that he'd like to
serve in that role in a Trump administration, however indirect
that may be. And he certainly has a strong presence
both on social media and you've seen him often on
television networks like Newsmax and Fox News as well. He
is an attorney with the Article three project and he
joins us now. Mike Davis, thank you so much for
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your time, Thank you for having me. When it comes
to Cash Pattel, he appears to be a very polarizing figure.
And we can get into the reasons why. But we
heard the credentials there from Senator Ted Cruz. He's eminently qualified.
So the only reason to oppose him, it would seem,
would be political and those that are in fear for
their jobs within the FBI.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Yeah, I mean, past Hotel's clearly qualified for how Senator
Cruz laid out in the prior PCE you just played.
I was the chief council for nominations on the Senate
Judiciary Committee for then and returning Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman
Chreck Grassley. I handled the nomination for Chris Ray. That
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was my second day on the job back in twenty seventeen,
his hearing, and I remember back then everyone was also
fut up Russian collusion. Russian collusion. Trump is a Russian asset.
It was just total and you had that Russian collusion hoax,
that Quassifier Hurrecine investigation hobbled President Trump's presidency in his
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first term, and that needs to be fixed and that
needs to be righted. And I think that these berenet Republicans,
all fifty three of them, could presumptively vote to confirm
any of President Trump's qualified Executive branch nominees he gets
to have. The President should get to have his own team,
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so long as they're qualified. The President doesn't tell the
Senators who they can hire for their staff, and they
shouldn't tell the President that he can't have a nominee
who's qualified. And I guess the only reason you would
vote against a qualified executive branch nominee by the President
is if that nominee is disqualified by their personal misconduct,
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meaning they've done something wrong that takes an otherwise qualified
nominee and disqualifies them. And then the burden there is
on the people who say that that nominees disqualified, and
it should be through clear and convincing evidence. And you
can't have this me too presumption of guilt like we
had during the Kavitough confirmation. We got rid of that.
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And so Cash is clearly qualified. There's nothing in his
backgrounds that would disqualify him. He had the highest level
security clearance, his top secret Sensitive Compartment Compartmented Information SCI
Secure Access or Special Access programs through the DoD SAP.
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There's nothing in his background that would disqualify him. So
the Senate should move forward and give President Trump the
FBI director he wants. He ran a campaign on the
law fair, he won a mandate from the American people.
The American people rendered our verdict on November fifth, and
they put President Trump back in the White House and
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a landslide reader in twelve electoral both seven swing states
and the American people want someone might cash, but tell
this bold operator reformer to go into the FBI and
clean up that place so the FBI focuses on real
crimes instead of political non crimes by political enemies.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Find out more about his Article three project online at
Article three project dot org. Mike Davis our guest. A
lot of questions based on what you just said there, Mike,
the first of which, because you have been on the inside,
as you mentioned, working in concert with Senator Chuck Grassley
out of Iowa on matters like these. What we've seen
in the past is John McCain famously said elections have consequences,
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and Lindsey Graham goes along with this too. On the
Republican side for the Senate, I tend to agree with
it that a president is entitled to his appointments, and
some Republicans fall in line and they cross the Aisle
vote the other way whether it was Obama or Biden
as president. But when it's a Republican president and specifically Trump,
we're worrying on our side about people like Susan Collins
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Lisa Murkowski peeling off, whereas we going to kind of
on any Democrat votes to confirm any of Trump's nominees.
Why do you think there's that imbalance when it comes
to one side versus the other on this topic.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Because these Republican senators don't feel enough heat. And that's
what we're doing at the Article three Project, my nonprofit organization.
We are putting a heat on these Republican senators to
get behind President Trump's qualified executive branch nominees. He gets
to have the team he wants, so long as they're
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qualified and they have they're not disqualified through personal misconducts.
They need to get on board. If Susan Collins and
Lisa Murkowski convert can vote to confirm, for example, Rachel
Levine or for so run the four star admiral to
run the Public Health Service Commission Corps, then they can
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certainly vote for someone like That's.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All to run the FBI.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Mike you had mentioned Christopher Ray, and I want to
kind of go over that with you, because in the
wake of James Comy and the corruption that enveloped the
FBI at that time, the phony Faiso Warrens to spy
on Trump's campaign based on a false predicate of a
Steele dossier that was funded by Hillary Clinton. I mean,
there's so many things, so many layers wrong with all
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of that. And Christopher Ray was appointed by Donald Trump,
and you were a part of that vetting process. And
yet from my perspective and perhaps from yours, Ray has
been an utter disappointment. And he's one of just many
Trump appointments from that first term that didn't turn out
the way that we thought that they would. What is
your thought on Christopher Ray now, and how does it differ,
if at all, from your initial kind of appraisal of him.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I've always been a skeptic of Chris Ray because I
think he's part of that guy from you and a
party intel caball with James Comy and people like that.
He was James Comy's protege for five years, and so
when they fired FBI Director James Comey, they forced Trump
to fire to hire his protege, and he has done
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nothing but go along with this weaponization of our intell
agencies and law enforcement against political enemies. Chris Ray led
the FBI when they did the mar A Lago rate
for presidential records the former president is allowed to have
in the office of former president under the Presidential Records Act.
The FBI Director Chris Ray allowed the FBI to go
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after parents outraged at Goop board meetings about the gender
chaos and schools and the resulting rapes and bathrooms. FBI
Director Chris Ray allowed the Federal Faith Act to get
politicized and weaponized to put a seventy five year old
Christian in prison for praying in an abortion clinic while
giving amnesty to Planned Parenthood activists who are terrorizing crisis
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pregnancies and Catholic Church. Since so Chris Ray has gone,
he has been a willing participants in this weaponization of
insulent agencies and law enforcement against political enemies. He needs
to go. He needs to go. He should bow out
gracefully or he's going to get publicly humiliated when he
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gets fired.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And that's the thing too. And Mike Davis is our guest.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Find out more article three Project dot Org about his
efforts to get these nominees across the finish line in
a divided Senate, but a Republican majority now that will
be voting on this at fifty three forty seven. Mike,
it seems like President Trump has a much more focused
idea of who he wants in his cabinet this time around,
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with that experience of the previous four years. The types
of nominees that he's putting up, like Cash ptel FBI,
like Pam Bondi for Attorney General, Pete Hegseth. He's undergoing
some scrutiny because of some personal paccadillos for Secretary of Defense,
but those are three that are top of mind right now.
How do you feel, on balance about the Trump nominees
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for the cabinet? Do you think any will have trouble
getting across the finish line.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
I think President Trump learned his biggest mistake from his
first term, which is personnel. You have to make sure
your political appointees are both competent and loyal You can't
be one of the other, you have to be both.
And all those people you just mentioned are competence loyalists,
and that's exactly who President Trump deserves. To have in
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his cabinet. We do not have an independent Justice Department,
We do not have an independent FBI. They work for
the President of the United States, who was duly elected
by all Americans. In this idea that they're independent of
the president proves what they call a conspiracy theory that
there is a deep state. These FBI agents don't think
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that they have to report to the FBI, to appointed
by the President, and to the Deputy Attorney General and
the Attorney General and ultimately the President of the United States.
Then we have a deep state, and so that has
to get fixed. I am very pleased with President Trump's
bold reformers He's picking for his cabinets, and I expect
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every one of them to get confirmed. Some will be
easier than others. But at the Article three projects we
are going to, we are already fighting to make sure
that these nominees get confirmed. And I think we've with
our shock and awe campaign on Cash to tell I
think that we're going to get him confirmed. When people
said that he had no chance.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Mike, you brought up a term loyalists, and I've been
laughing at the national news coverage of Trump's appointees and nominees,
especially at CNN, et cetera, and they keep mentioning that fact.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Oh, it's a Trump loyalist.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And I go back to twenty twenty one, and I'm
trying to think if President elect Biden had nominated anybody
for his cabinet that were not loyalists to him, or
if that was mentioned by the at that time.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Their job is to be a loyalist to the president's
that again, we elect one president of the United States,
he runs the entire executive branch, and his cabinet pics
better be personally loyal to him. They better carry out
his lawful orders and his policy agenda. Doing anything otherwise
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is very dangerous to our country. It means that you
have cabinet secretaries who aren't who are not accountable to
the American people through our elected president.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
It's a great point, and we'll see how this carries
forward with the Senate confirmation hearings and votes. Mike Davis
our guest, Mike, I also want to get your take
from a legal perspective on the Joe Biden pardon of Hunter.
This from an MSNBC host who continues to gaslight and saying, look,
we all knew he was going to pardon Hunter all along.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Is this the politics of parity? I mean, we had
Donald Trump pardon Sheriff Joe Arpeyo during his term and
there wasn't a lot of hue and cry about that.
And this is a father who saw his first wife killed,
his daughter killed in acarash. His two young sons survive,
one goes on to have real difficulties with addiction, another
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dies because of cancer. This is a family that's really trouble.
I mean, yes, he said he wasn't going to do this,
but did anyone ever believe that that was the case.
I mean, I would have put good money on this happening.
Are many people going to be surprised that a father
who is also the president would.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Do this for a son.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
The problem is that's not the bill of goods we
were sold Mike during the campaign, for which Joe Biden
got a lot of earned media in the comparison and
contrast allegedly with Donald Trump, who did not respect the
rule of all. But you know, Joe Biden did, and
he wouldn't even pardon his own son because that's how
much respect he had for the rule of law.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We also see these comparisons.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
We heard it right there, between the pardon of Hunter
Biden and Trump pardoning Sheriff Joe Rpyo or maybe Jared
Kushner's dad. What is the difference here in your mind
that Joe Biden pardon for Hunter.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Biden because Joe Biden is protecting himself, He's protecting his
family corruption. There is very clear evidence in the form
of subpoenad bank records by House Silver Site Committee Chairman
James Comer were over twenty three million dollars went from
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corrupt foreign entities into what seems like every Biden family
member's bank accounts. And remember this is not some drug
addled son who got pardon for being a crackhead and
related crimes. This pardon went back nearly eleven years to win.
Hunter Biden became the bagman for the Biden crime family
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and went on the Barisma board and corruptly took money
for all of the Bidens when Joe Biden was the
vice president of the United States. That's what this is about.
This is about a corrupt, compromised president of the United
States covering up his corruption by pardoning his son. This
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is not about sympathy for some fifty five year old
dirtbag loser son who is the bagman for the family?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Final question, Mike Davis our guest. Find out more about
the Article three project at article threeproject dot org. There
is scuttle butt in talk about a Dan Bongino, for instance,
Mike potentially being the director of the Secret Service.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think that'd be a home run higher He.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Has pushed back on that a little bit, saying he
might be able to do more good on the outside.
I think you and I have had a similar conversation
in the past, but I'll bring it back up since
the last time we spoke President Trump won an election.
Would there be a role for you in a Trump
administration that you would consider or do you feel that
you do your best work on the outside.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I have.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
I am going to continue to be a very strong
supporter of President Trump through the Article three project, Article
threeproject dot org. We are his longest and most effective
outside ally, and we are a crucial voice for President Trump.
I can get out there and say whatever the hell
I want about any issue I want, and if you
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put me in governments, I get muzzled. You don't want
that I want you want me to be out there
to be the street fighter for President Trump.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And we don't want that of the media because Mike,
you provides such a valuable service and perspective on all
of this. One of the best follows on X from
a legal perspective. You can find them there at mr DDMA.
Mike Davis our guest from article three project Mike. Always
thankful for your time, Thank you for the work that
you do.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
And much to my surprise my conversation Mike Davis there
that you heard Ryan Schuling live back with you. It's
these kind of noted scholars of law and presences on Twitter.
For some reason, I can't tell you why exactly, they
follow me back on X and that is what led
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seriously to me connecting with Mike was through X and
through his organizers via email to get him on the program.
And he is such a vibrant mind of law when
it comes to the presidential level, but he also knows
the inner workings of the swamp.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
He's been there.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
He's been a chief advisor to Senator Chuck Grassley, as
you heard there from Iowa, and I like his honesty
when it comes to Christopher Ray because he was sitting
there like his second day on the job. I believe
he said he had to kind of go through the
vetting process of Chris Ray, who.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Was the heir apparent to James Comy.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
And this is the problem when you watch the mainstream media,
when you see Andrew McCabe on CNN, who is a
disgraced former deputy chief of the FBI under James Comy,
there is so much rot within the leadership there. And
you know this as well as I do, and I
want to hear from you as well via text at
five seven, seven, three nine, start those texts, Ryan, So
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to hire from within that swamp, that mechanism, that bureaucracy
of Christopher Ray. It was just going to James Comey
two point zero. And we've seen that play out with
regard to the January sixth investigation. He has been hung
out on a rail by the likes of Thomas Massey,
the representative from Kentucky, who I hope is the next
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Senator from Kentucky when Mitch McConnell steps aside, which should
be in the next election. But Christopher Ray has obbuscated.
He has been very murky, cloudy, not transparent with regard
to the FBI, its inner workings, what its motivations are,
clarity with which it conducts its investigations, and it's on
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several fronts, whether it be somebody like ray Epps who
should absolutely be investigated and publicly excoriated for telling everyone
at these rallies before January sixth, we got to go
into the Capitol, but we were told, don't worry about
ray Apps. He testified in a skiff and a closed
door session in the basement and not on mainstream media,
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not on primetime television.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Why were Adam Kinsinger, Liz Cheney and so many on
that January sixth committee so willing to provide cover and
carry water for ray Epps? And then there was the
bomb outside the DNC which Thomas Massey pressed Christopher ray
On and he would not provide answers. Cash Patel is
going to get to the bottom of it, and he
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needs to be the next director of the FBI.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
A time out. George Brockler next, and Ryan Shuling.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Live Helby sworn in mid January as the first district
attorney in the newly formed twenty third Judicial District down
in Douglas County.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He's been a district.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Attorney before, and he continues some work on the side
and writing this op Ed Springs mayor owes public some answers.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
George Brockler, our guest, George, welcome.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Hey, thanks for having me. Ryan.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Now, as to saintly as you can state it, what
is going on here with Yummy Mobilati, the mayor of
colle Lado Springs.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
You know, for folks that haven't paid attention, there was
a potential racist event that took place back in May
of twenty twenty three when Yemi was one of two candidates,
Wayne Williams the other one running for Colorado Springs mayor,
where somebody let a cross on fire in front of
one of Yemy's campaign signs and then spray painted a
racial epithet on it. That launched an investigation by the
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Colorado Springs Police Department and the FBI. About a month ago,
the FBI had turned a report over the US Syene's office.
About a month ago, the US Attorney's Office indicted three people,
including the ringleader, who was a black guy, a convicted murderer,
for solicitation to murder an attempted cop killer, and they
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indicted them for this hoax, that it was all big
hopes designed to try to help Yemmy win the may
al race. Well, what has come out since is a
Daily Wire article has revealed that the mayor was interviewed
by the FBI couple times, three times, and he lied
to the FBI. And that's based on an FBI official
who's unnamed in the report. But he points to the
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indictment who reveals things that the press released by the
US Attorney's Office doesn't. And it appears that the mayor
denied ever having contact at all with this ring leader
of this hope, this convicted murder. And it turns out
there are multiple messages between them, and I can't remember
if it was by Facebook, Messenger or some other social
media app, but multiple contacts. And so where that leads
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us today, Ryan, And that was the title of this column,
was Hey, Calbrado Springs deserves some answers. Is the mayor
refuses to say whether he has lied to the FBI.
In fact, he refuses to address the public directly. He's
only had spokespeople talk and they've all said these sort
of vague, demurring like responses like we cooperated fully, well,
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did you lie to the FBI? We're the victim of
a hand crime? Is his latest thing, you know, all
this other stuff. It's it's interesting because lying to the FBI,
unlike lying to local law enforcement, is a crime. It's
a big time crime. It's a Martha Stewart goes to
prison crime. It's a General Flynn gets convicted and gets
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sentenced crime. It's not a small thing to trifle with.
And so the story reveals that the FBI official said
that they took the case to the US Attorney's office
to charge the mayor with lying to the FBI, and
the US Attorney's office, for reasons that they chalk up
to race and politics, refuse to bring the case forward.
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And that's where we are today.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
George Brockler, our guests.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Now, if this sounds familiar, it kind of wrings some
echoes from the Jesse Smallet case in Chicago. Now, this
guy was a D list celebrity who ended up being charged, convicted,
and then having that recently thrown out. But we're talking
about elected official here, George down in Colorado Springs, a
mayor who I would say was not thoroughly vetted during
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his candidates either wasn't a lot known about him. He
ran as an independent, he's not affiliated with either party,
and this just adds to kind of the mystery surrounding him.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So where does it go from here?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You mentioned that the race was cited as a reason
why they chose not to pursue this.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Who are they and why was that cited as the reason?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, the FBI official who said this case was brought
to the US Attorney's office, and I presume it's the
acting US Attorney Matt Kirsch, who I know, and that's
a good dude. He's a career prosecutor, but he's also
subject to political pressures as well. And the statement that
was attributed to the US Attorney's Office, not to math,
it's the USE Attorney's office, was Hey, we're not going
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to indict and prosecute the first black mayor of Colorado Springs.
They's true. That is incredibly offensive to the notion of
the rule of law. And I say that with only
the slightest bit of irony or coincidence given effected two
days ago, the President just pardoned his son for every
single criminal act conceivable over the last ten years. This
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leaves us as an interesting place because in not taking action,
that statute of limitations is still alive. There's a five
year statute of limitations. And you and I can do
easy math to figure out here that in about a
month and a half there's going to be a new
sheriff in town named Pam Bondi who's going to be
the attorney general. She has the ability to breathe life
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into this case, or at least this investigation, to try
to get to the truth of this whole thing. And
my hope is that's what happened. I don't think the
mayor should wait. I think the mayor should come forward
and say, let me just be very clear, I never
ever lied to the FBI. Boom. Now we have something
right now we have the denial either the FBI's got
information that backs it up for refuse, but wee can
move forward. But in going this long without ever answering
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that question, that's just not the conduct of an innocent person.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
George Brockler joining us, and we will certainly reach out
to Yummy Mumbalade in the mayor's office down there in
Colorado Springs here, but just the notion of what happened
here concocting a racial hoax, which is sad empathetic in
its own right that you have to invent that to
create some kind of political issue that would give him
an edge in the race over Wayne Williams. It's one thing, George,
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for you and I to talk about on the radio,
for you to write an op ed about it, and
for it to be pursued, as you mentioned, under new
leadership with the Department of Justice and Pam Bondi as
Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But I think what needs to.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Happen is the citizens of Colorado Springs need to.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Step up and start asking questions. Is there any sign
that that's happening.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
M My understanding is there a numerous CORA requests that
had gone out for information. The problem with that is
all of this stuff is a less shoe taken place
in his capacity as a private citizen candidate. So none
of that stuff would be open to KORRA and COORRA
doesn't apply to the federal government. Would have to be
SPOYA and the FBI and the US Attorney's Office enjoyed
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pretty wide latitude and shooting down a lot of those requests.
I think the other thing that needs to happen though,
is folks like you, like Dan, like the other news
outlets out there, we need to have a Jenna Griswold
meet Kyle Clark moment with Mobilatti. The fact that the
mainstream media here, the bigger mainstream media, has yet to
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really catch on to this is bizarre. I mean you
and I would conclude that if it was Mayor Wayne
Williams and these allegations were being floated around, it would
be relentless people would be chasing him down in the
parking lot demanding in the answer to the question, but
here it's like see no evil here, no evil, speak
no evil.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Certainly a very strange story developing here and bringing light
to it. In his op ed is George Brockler our guest.
You can find it in the gazette entitled Springs Mayor
owes public some answers, and perhaps those will happen right here. George,
thank you as always for your time and for taking
the time to write this so that people can.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Learn about it.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Thanks to Migel, I will never understand why in the
offices of public relations of a communications director, let's say,
mobilatte here, the mayor of Colorado Springs, that you wouldn't
want to get in front of a story like this.
I know that my background primarily is in sports, but
it's the same thing. Michigan State University botched the entire
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Larry Nasser scandal by.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Staying behind it, by being a day late and a
dollar short.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Had MSU gotten me in front of it and said,
we are resolute in doing whatever it takes to remove
Larry Nasser and any of his infiltrations into the Michigan
State University Gymnastics Department, the United State Olympics Department of Gymnastics.
We are going to do what is necessary to get
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to the root of the matter and the truth. There
would have been a very different outcome in my view,
and I covered that in real time. The reason I
bring that up is because the Mayor's office, in my opinion,
is handling this exactly wrong. Kelly Cacherra has reached out
to the Mayor's office. We received the report during my
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covering for Ross Kaminski on KOA earlier today.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
There was some.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Uncorroborated secondary sourcing of outlets overseas, let's just say Nigeria,
and there were two. But I want to bring this
to your attention just to make a point. And what
these outlets were saying was that Yemi Mobilatte had been
arrested by the FBI and brought in for questioning. Now,
what Chad Bauer and I had theorized, and I think
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this might be correct, is that there was a language
barrier there lost in translation. That sure, Yemi Mobilatti may
have been brought in by the FBI for questioning, not
as a suspect, not as a defendant, not under arrest,
but that these Nigerian media outlets may have reported it
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as such or it may have been interpreted as such,
and we could not qualitatively source that to somebody that
was low within Colorado Springs, the city council, the FBI
down there. Rob Dawson did his due diligence as a
reporter for KOA and said that the mayor's office vehemently
refutes that report, was angry about it, and that a
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local field officer in the FBI also deny the report.
But what you do by letting this marinate in the
public sphere is you let it linger and then it
takes out a life of its own. And what I
don't understand is why doesn't Mayor Yemi mobi Lade, come
on this program or the Dan Kaplis Show, who has
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reached out into Colorado Springs through his affiliates and set
the record straight and tell us the straight scoop from
his perspective on what happened or what didn't happen with
regard to this racial hoax that was alleged that happened
on his law that was designed to help his campaign. Now,
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if he hides behind attorneys or his staff, that suggests
that he has something to hide. And then in the
political sphere he doesn't want to take any risks legally
or politically. This is the statement we got from the
mayor's office down in Colorado Springs, and courtesy to Rob
Dawson for this from Vanessa Zink, she is the chief
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communications officer for the Mayor's office down there. If you
live in Colorado Springs, I would love to hear from
U five seven seven thirty nine quote as requested today.
Here is Mayor Yemmy's statement made on November thirteenth on
the federal indictment of three people suspected of conducting a
cross burning hoax in our community. The indictment was released
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by the US Attorney's Office on November twelve, Mayor Yummy
is not one of the three suspects listed in the indictment.
He participated in the investigation as a victim of the crime.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Quote.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
That incident during my campaign led to a very traumatic
time for my family, my campaign team, in our community.
My knowledge and interaction with Derek Bernard was as a
local media personality, and I was not aware at the
time that he was suspected of this crime. I appreciate
local and federal law enforcement's work in pursuing justice and
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sending a message that we will not tolerate such reprehensible behavior.
Unquote your thoughts on this five seven, seven, three nine.
We wrap up our number one of Ryan schuling live
after this.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, any thoughts on this party coming? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, I don't know if I saw it coming. I
wasn't thinking about it. But Hunter was singled out because
he broke the law.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
He was singled out because he had an legal gun
and taxication charges, not because he was the president's son.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And I honestly don't care.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I just want Democrats to stop backing like they are
on this moral high ground politically when they have shown
us they're not, you know, whether it's skipping the primary
process when Biden stepped down, and things like Biden pardoning
his son stop acting like y'all at the pure party
and Republicans aren't. And it also shows me elected officials
can do whatever they want as long as they have
the political will and courage to do it.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Charlemagne, you are so close, Charlemagne the God from the
Breakfast Club, and it's one of the most listened to
morning shows across not only the iHeart platform, but any
over the air radio platform or otherwise. But I'm willing
to have that conversation, that summit, that meeting with Charlemagne
of the God, because I think he's there.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
He's right there, knocking on the door.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
It's like Lawrence Fishburn has the halm open with the
red pill in it, and Charlemagne's.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Like, well, I don't have any reason not to take
the red pill, my man.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
You're right there. The Democratic Party is garbage right now.
It does not represent the common man, the working man,
the black American, the Hispanic American, the working white class American.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That is gone.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Those days have passd And he's giving a coaching analysis
right there that Democrats act like on their moral high ground.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
They're not there. They never were there.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
They just had the media and academia and Hollywood and
big Pharma and whoever else you want to see that
has the dollars to line pockets to make that argument
on their behalf. And I'll readily admit those of us
on the right we haven't had that same kind of
power until Donald Trump lent his not only name, his face,
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his lightness, his voice, his money to the cause. As
well as Elon Musk. He is as big in this
movement as anybody, Joe Rogan, the veak Ramaswami, Tulsea Gabbard.
We have the winning hand now and we need to
learn how to play it, and we can't be afraid
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to go there. And I think the way that Trump
is lining up these nominees for his cabinet that we
are on the right track. Let's go to the text
five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Ryan.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Can a president pardon crimes that haven't been convicted yet?
That is a question for legal scholars, and it would
be a test of our constitution, because that's what Joe
Biden has done.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
He has gone back to.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
January of twenty fourteen and said anything that Hunter Biden
has done, whether it has been uncovered or is still
yet to be discovered, is a blanket pardon for anything
he may have participated. That is a pardon for Joe
Biden himself, for Barack Obama, the Obama administration, who originally
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enlisted Joe Biden to be in charge of Ukraine. If
you haven't heard my conversation from yesterday with Miranda Devine,
I strongly encourage you to check that out, maybe even
during this break.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It's on the podcast.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
You can subscribe, download and listen Ryan Schuling live on
any major podcast platform. Still want your texts five seven, seven,
three nine, and when we come back, Stephen L. Miller
Red stez on x with his take on the media
his Versus Media podcasts on the Hunter Biden pardon.
Listen.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I think Cash Battel is a very strong nominee. I
think the entire slate of cabinet nominees President Trump is
put forward.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Is very strong.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I believe every one of these cabinet nominees is going
to be confirmed.
Speaker 4 (00:12):
By the Senate.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I think Cash Battel is going to be confirmed by
the Senate. You look at his background. He has a
serious professional background. He was a prosecutor, He was a
public defender. He was a senior intelligence staffer on Capitol Hill.
He was a senior intelligence staffer in the White House.
He was the chief of staff of the Department of Defense.
He was the deputy director of National Intelligence.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Strong endorsement Senator Ted Cruz singing the praises of Cash
Patello as the potential director of the FBI and Trump's
nominee for that post. So a lot of good reasons
to support his nomination. So why are those in the
FBI and our bureaucracies in Washington so against it?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Cruz had thoughts on.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That, and I got to say, all of the weeping
and gnashing of teeth, all of the people pulling their
hair out, are exactly the people who are dismayed about
having a real reformer come into the FBI and clean
out the corrupted partisans who sadly have burrowed into senior
career positions at the FBI. The FBI and the Department
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of Justice, or two institutions incredibly important to the rule
of law in the United States. I revere both, and
one of the most tragic consequences of four years of
Joe Biden Kamala Harris is both DOJ and the FBI
have been politicized and weaponized. And I think Cash Battel
is a very strong nominee to take on the partisan
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corruption in the FBI.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
You're here in joining me now, Ryan Schuling with you.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
He is a self described viceroy that he'd like to
serve in that role in a Trump administration, however indirect
that may be. And he certainly has a strong presence
both on social media and you've seen him often on
television networks like Newsmax and Fox News as well. He
is an attorney with the Article three project and he
joins us now. Mike Davis, thank you so much for
(02:00):
your time, Thank you for having me. When it comes
to Cash Pattel, he appears to be a very polarizing figure.
And we can get into the reasons why. But we
heard the credentials there from Senator Ted Cruz. He's eminently qualified.
So the only reason to oppose him, it would seem,
would be political and those that are in fear for
their jobs within the FBI.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Yeah, I mean, past Hotel's clearly qualified for how Senator
Cruz laid out in the prior PCE you just played.
I was the chief council for nominations on the Senate
Judiciary Committee for then and returning Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman
Chreck Grassley. I handled the nomination for Chris Ray. That
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was my second day on the job back in twenty seventeen,
his hearing, and I remember back then everyone was also
fut up Russian collusion. Russian collusion. Trump is a Russian asset.
It was just total and you had that Russian collusion hoax,
that Quassifier Hurrecine investigation hobbled President Trump's presidency in his
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first term, and that needs to be fixed and that
needs to be righted. And I think that these berenet Republicans,
all fifty three of them, could presumptively vote to confirm
any of President Trump's qualified Executive branch nominees he gets
to have. The President should get to have his own team,
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so long as they're qualified. The President doesn't tell the
Senators who they can hire for their staff, and they
shouldn't tell the President that he can't have a nominee
who's qualified. And I guess the only reason you would
vote against a qualified executive branch nominee by the President
is if that nominee is disqualified by their personal misconduct,
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meaning they've done something wrong that takes an otherwise qualified
nominee and disqualifies them. And then the burden there is
on the people who say that that nominees disqualified, and
it should be through clear and convincing evidence. And you
can't have this me too presumption of guilt like we
had during the Kavitough confirmation. We got rid of that.
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And so Cash is clearly qualified. There's nothing in his
backgrounds that would disqualify him. He had the highest level
security clearance, his top secret Sensitive Compartment Compartmented Information SCI
Secure Access or Special Access programs through the DoD SAP.
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There's nothing in his background that would disqualify him. So
the Senate should move forward and give President Trump the
FBI director he wants. He ran a campaign on the
law fair, he won a mandate from the American people.
The American people rendered our verdict on November fifth, and
they put President Trump back in the White House and
(04:57):
a landslide reader in twelve electoral both seven swing states
and the American people want someone might cash, but tell
this bold operator reformer to go into the FBI and
clean up that place so the FBI focuses on real
crimes instead of political non crimes by political enemies.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Find out more about his Article three project online at
Article three project dot org. Mike Davis our guest. A
lot of questions based on what you just said there, Mike,
the first of which, because you have been on the inside,
as you mentioned, working in concert with Senator Chuck Grassley
out of Iowa on matters like these. What we've seen
in the past is John McCain famously said elections have consequences,
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and Lindsey Graham goes along with this too. On the
Republican side for the Senate, I tend to agree with
it that a president is entitled to his appointments, and
some Republicans fall in line and they cross the Aisle
vote the other way whether it was Obama or Biden
as president. But when it's a Republican president and specifically Trump,
we're worrying on our side about people like Susan Collins
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Lisa Murkowski peeling off, whereas we going to kind of
on any Democrat votes to confirm any of Trump's nominees.
Why do you think there's that imbalance when it comes
to one side versus the other on this topic.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Because these Republican senators don't feel enough heat. And that's
what we're doing at the Article three Project, my nonprofit organization.
We are putting a heat on these Republican senators to
get behind President Trump's qualified executive branch nominees. He gets
to have the team he wants, so long as they're
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qualified and they have they're not disqualified through personal misconducts.
They need to get on board. If Susan Collins and
Lisa Murkowski convert can vote to confirm, for example, Rachel
Levine or for so run the four star admiral to
run the Public Health Service Commission Corps, then they can
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certainly vote for someone like That's.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
All to run the FBI.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Mike you had mentioned Christopher Ray, and I want to
kind of go over that with you, because in the
wake of James Comy and the corruption that enveloped the
FBI at that time, the phony Faiso Warrens to spy
on Trump's campaign based on a false predicate of a
Steele dossier that was funded by Hillary Clinton. I mean,
there's so many things, so many layers wrong with all
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of that. And Christopher Ray was appointed by Donald Trump,
and you were a part of that vetting process. And
yet from my perspective and perhaps from yours, Ray has
been an utter disappointment. And he's one of just many
Trump appointments from that first term that didn't turn out
the way that we thought that they would. What is
your thought on Christopher Ray now, and how does it differ,
if at all, from your initial kind of appraisal of him.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I've always been a skeptic of Chris Ray because I
think he's part of that guy from you and a
party intel caball with James Comy and people like that.
He was James Comy's protege for five years, and so
when they fired FBI Director James Comey, they forced Trump
to fire to hire his protege, and he has done
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nothing but go along with this weaponization of our intell
agencies and law enforcement against political enemies. Chris Ray led
the FBI when they did the mar A Lago rate
for presidential records the former president is allowed to have
in the office of former president under the Presidential Records Act.
The FBI Director Chris Ray allowed the FBI to go
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after parents outraged at Goop board meetings about the gender
chaos and schools and the resulting rapes and bathrooms. FBI
Director Chris Ray allowed the Federal Faith Act to get
politicized and weaponized to put a seventy five year old
Christian in prison for praying in an abortion clinic while
giving amnesty to Planned Parenthood activists who are terrorizing crisis
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pregnancies and Catholic Church. Since so Chris Ray has gone,
he has been a willing participants in this weaponization of
insulent agencies and law enforcement against political enemies. He needs
to go. He needs to go. He should bow out
gracefully or he's going to get publicly humiliated when he
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gets fired.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And that's the thing too. And Mike Davis is our guest.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Find out more article three Project dot Org about his
efforts to get these nominees across the finish line in
a divided Senate, but a Republican majority now that will
be voting on this at fifty three forty seven. Mike,
it seems like President Trump has a much more focused
idea of who he wants in his cabinet this time around,
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with that experience of the previous four years. The types
of nominees that he's putting up, like Cash ptel FBI,
like Pam Bondi for Attorney General, Pete Hegseth. He's undergoing
some scrutiny because of some personal paccadillos for Secretary of Defense,
but those are three that are top of mind right now.
How do you feel, on balance about the Trump nominees
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for the cabinet? Do you think any will have trouble
getting across the finish line.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
I think President Trump learned his biggest mistake from his
first term, which is personnel. You have to make sure
your political appointees are both competent and loyal You can't
be one of the other, you have to be both.
And all those people you just mentioned are competence loyalists,
and that's exactly who President Trump deserves. To have in
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his cabinet. We do not have an independent Justice Department,
We do not have an independent FBI. They work for
the President of the United States, who was duly elected
by all Americans. In this idea that they're independent of
the president proves what they call a conspiracy theory that
there is a deep state. These FBI agents don't think
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that they have to report to the FBI, to appointed
by the President, and to the Deputy Attorney General and
the Attorney General and ultimately the President of the United States.
Then we have a deep state, and so that has
to get fixed. I am very pleased with President Trump's
bold reformers He's picking for his cabinets, and I expect
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every one of them to get confirmed. Some will be
easier than others. But at the Article three projects we
are going to, we are already fighting to make sure
that these nominees get confirmed. And I think we've with
our shock and awe campaign on Cash to tell I
think that we're going to get him confirmed. When people
said that he had no chance.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Mike, you brought up a term loyalists, and I've been
laughing at the national news coverage of Trump's appointees and nominees,
especially at CNN, et cetera, and they keep mentioning that fact.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Oh, it's a Trump loyalist.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And I go back to twenty twenty one, and I'm
trying to think if President elect Biden had nominated anybody
for his cabinet that were not loyalists to him, or
if that was mentioned by the at that time.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Their job is to be a loyalist to the president's
that again, we elect one president of the United States,
he runs the entire executive branch, and his cabinet pics
better be personally loyal to him. They better carry out
his lawful orders and his policy agenda. Doing anything otherwise
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is very dangerous to our country. It means that you
have cabinet secretaries who aren't who are not accountable to
the American people through our elected president.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
It's a great point, and we'll see how this carries
forward with the Senate confirmation hearings and votes. Mike Davis
our guest, Mike, I also want to get your take
from a legal perspective on the Joe Biden pardon of Hunter.
This from an MSNBC host who continues to gaslight and saying, look,
we all knew he was going to pardon Hunter all along.
Speaker 7 (12:53):
Is this the politics of parity? I mean, we had
Donald Trump pardon Sheriff Joe Arpeyo during his term and
there wasn't a lot of hue and cry about that.
And this is a father who saw his first wife killed,
his daughter killed in acarash. His two young sons survive,
one goes on to have real difficulties with addiction, another
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dies because of cancer. This is a family that's really trouble.
I mean, yes, he said he wasn't going to do this,
but did anyone ever believe that that was the case.
I mean, I would have put good money on this happening.
Are many people going to be surprised that a father
who is also the president would.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Do this for a son.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
The problem is that's not the bill of goods we
were sold Mike during the campaign, for which Joe Biden
got a lot of earned media in the comparison and
contrast allegedly with Donald Trump, who did not respect the
rule of all. But you know, Joe Biden did, and
he wouldn't even pardon his own son because that's how
much respect he had for the rule of law.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We also see these comparisons.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
We heard it right there, between the pardon of Hunter
Biden and Trump pardoning Sheriff Joe Rpyo or maybe Jared
Kushner's dad. What is the difference here in your mind
that Joe Biden pardon for Hunter.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Biden because Joe Biden is protecting himself, He's protecting his
family corruption. There is very clear evidence in the form
of subpoenad bank records by House Silver Site Committee Chairman
James Comer were over twenty three million dollars went from
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corrupt foreign entities into what seems like every Biden family
member's bank accounts. And remember this is not some drug
addled son who got pardon for being a crackhead and
related crimes. This pardon went back nearly eleven years to win.
Hunter Biden became the bagman for the Biden crime family
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and went on the Barisma board and corruptly took money
for all of the Bidens when Joe Biden was the
vice president of the United States. That's what this is about.
This is about a corrupt, compromised president of the United
States covering up his corruption by pardoning his son. This
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is not about sympathy for some fifty five year old
dirtbag loser son who is the bagman for the family?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Final question, Mike Davis our guest. Find out more about
the Article three project at article threeproject dot org. There
is scuttle butt in talk about a Dan Bongino, for instance,
Mike potentially being the director of the Secret Service.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I think that'd be a home run higher He.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Has pushed back on that a little bit, saying he
might be able to do more good on the outside.
I think you and I have had a similar conversation
in the past, but I'll bring it back up since
the last time we spoke President Trump won an election.
Would there be a role for you in a Trump
administration that you would consider or do you feel that
you do your best work on the outside.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I have.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
I am going to continue to be a very strong
supporter of President Trump through the Article three project, Article
threeproject dot org. We are his longest and most effective
outside ally, and we are a crucial voice for President Trump.
I can get out there and say whatever the hell
I want about any issue I want, and if you
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put me in governments, I get muzzled. You don't want
that I want you want me to be out there
to be the street fighter for President Trump.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
And we don't want that of the media because Mike,
you provides such a valuable service and perspective on all
of this. One of the best follows on X from
a legal perspective. You can find them there at mr DDMA.
Mike Davis our guest from article three project Mike. Always
thankful for your time, Thank you for the work that
you do.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
And much to my surprise my conversation Mike Davis there
that you heard Ryan Schuling live back with you. It's
these kind of noted scholars of law and presences on Twitter.
For some reason, I can't tell you why exactly, they
follow me back on X and that is what led
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seriously to me connecting with Mike was through X and
through his organizers via email to get him on the program.
And he is such a vibrant mind of law when
it comes to the presidential level, but he also knows
the inner workings of the swamp.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
He's been there.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
He's been a chief advisor to Senator Chuck Grassley, as
you heard there from Iowa, and I like his honesty
when it comes to Christopher Ray because he was sitting
there like his second day on the job. I believe
he said he had to kind of go through the
vetting process of Chris Ray, who.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Was the heir apparent to James Comy.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
And this is the problem when you watch the mainstream media,
when you see Andrew McCabe on CNN, who is a
disgraced former deputy chief of the FBI under James Comy,
there is so much rot within the leadership there. And
you know this as well as I do, and I
want to hear from you as well via text at
five seven, seven, three nine, start those texts, Ryan, So
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to hire from within that swamp, that mechanism, that bureaucracy
of Christopher Ray. It was just going to James Comey
two point zero. And we've seen that play out with
regard to the January sixth investigation. He has been hung
out on a rail by the likes of Thomas Massey,
the representative from Kentucky, who I hope is the next
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Senator from Kentucky when Mitch McConnell steps aside, which should
be in the next election. But Christopher Ray has obbuscated.
He has been very murky, cloudy, not transparent with regard
to the FBI, its inner workings, what its motivations are,
clarity with which it conducts its investigations, and it's on
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several fronts, whether it be somebody like ray Epps who
should absolutely be investigated and publicly excoriated for telling everyone
at these rallies before January sixth, we got to go
into the Capitol, but we were told, don't worry about
ray Apps. He testified in a skiff and a closed
door session in the basement and not on mainstream media,
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not on primetime television.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Why not?
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Why were Adam Kinsinger, Liz Cheney and so many on
that January sixth committee so willing to provide cover and
carry water for ray Epps? And then there was the
bomb outside the DNC which Thomas Massey pressed Christopher ray
On and he would not provide answers. Cash Patel is
going to get to the bottom of it, and he
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needs to be the next director of the FBI.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
A time out. George Brockler next, and Ryan Shuling.
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Live Helby sworn in mid January as the first district
attorney in the newly formed twenty third Judicial District down
in Douglas County.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
He's been a district.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Attorney before, and he continues some work on the side
and writing this op Ed Springs mayor owes public some answers.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
George Brockler, our guest, George, welcome.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Hey, thanks for having me. Ryan.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Now, as to saintly as you can state it, what
is going on here with Yummy Mobilati, the mayor of
colle Lado Springs.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
You know, for folks that haven't paid attention, there was
a potential racist event that took place back in May
of twenty twenty three when Yemi was one of two candidates,
Wayne Williams the other one running for Colorado Springs mayor,
where somebody let a cross on fire in front of
one of Yemy's campaign signs and then spray painted a
racial epithet on it. That launched an investigation by the
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Colorado Springs Police Department and the FBI. About a month ago,
the FBI had turned a report over the US Syene's office.
About a month ago, the US Attorney's Office indicted three people,
including the ringleader, who was a black guy, a convicted murderer,
for solicitation to murder an attempted cop killer, and they
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indicted them for this hoax, that it was all big
hopes designed to try to help Yemmy win the may
al race. Well, what has come out since is a
Daily Wire article has revealed that the mayor was interviewed
by the FBI couple times, three times, and he lied
to the FBI. And that's based on an FBI official
who's unnamed in the report. But he points to the
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indictment who reveals things that the press released by the
US Attorney's Office doesn't. And it appears that the mayor
denied ever having contact at all with this ring leader
of this hope, this convicted murder. And it turns out
there are multiple messages between them, and I can't remember
if it was by Facebook, Messenger or some other social
media app, but multiple contacts. And so where that leads
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us today, Ryan, And that was the title of this column,
was Hey, Calbrado Springs deserves some answers. Is the mayor
refuses to say whether he has lied to the FBI.
In fact, he refuses to address the public directly. He's
only had spokespeople talk and they've all said these sort
of vague, demurring like responses like we cooperated fully, well,
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did you lie to the FBI? We're the victim of
a hand crime? Is his latest thing, you know, all
this other stuff. It's it's interesting because lying to the FBI,
unlike lying to local law enforcement, is a crime. It's
a big time crime. It's a Martha Stewart goes to
prison crime. It's a General Flynn gets convicted and gets
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sentenced crime. It's not a small thing to trifle with.
And so the story reveals that the FBI official said
that they took the case to the US Attorney's office
to charge the mayor with lying to the FBI, and
the US Attorney's office, for reasons that they chalk up
to race and politics, refuse to bring the case forward.
(22:35):
And that's where we are today.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
George Brockler, our guests.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Now, if this sounds familiar, it kind of wrings some
echoes from the Jesse Smallet case in Chicago. Now, this
guy was a D list celebrity who ended up being charged, convicted,
and then having that recently thrown out. But we're talking
about elected official here, George down in Colorado Springs, a
mayor who I would say was not thoroughly vetted during
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his candidates either wasn't a lot known about him. He
ran as an independent, he's not affiliated with either party,
and this just adds to kind of the mystery surrounding him.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
So where does it go from here?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
You mentioned that the race was cited as a reason
why they chose not to pursue this.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Who are they and why was that cited as the reason?
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Yeah, the FBI official who said this case was brought
to the US Attorney's office, and I presume it's the
acting US Attorney Matt Kirsch, who I know, and that's
a good dude. He's a career prosecutor, but he's also
subject to political pressures as well. And the statement that
was attributed to the US Attorney's Office, not to math,
it's the USE Attorney's office, was Hey, we're not going
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to indict and prosecute the first black mayor of Colorado Springs.
They's true. That is incredibly offensive to the notion of
the rule of law. And I say that with only
the slightest bit of irony or coincidence given effected two
days ago, the President just pardoned his son for every
single criminal act conceivable over the last ten years. This
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leaves us as an interesting place because in not taking action,
that statute of limitations is still alive. There's a five
year statute of limitations. And you and I can do
easy math to figure out here that in about a
month and a half there's going to be a new
sheriff in town named Pam Bondi who's going to be
the attorney general. She has the ability to breathe life
(24:20):
into this case, or at least this investigation, to try
to get to the truth of this whole thing. And
my hope is that's what happened. I don't think the
mayor should wait. I think the mayor should come forward
and say, let me just be very clear, I never
ever lied to the FBI. Boom. Now we have something
right now we have the denial either the FBI's got
information that backs it up for refuse, but wee can
move forward. But in going this long without ever answering
(24:44):
that question, that's just not the conduct of an innocent person.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
You know.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
George Brockler joining us, and we will certainly reach out
to Yummy Mumbalade in the mayor's office down there in
Colorado Springs here, but just the notion of what happened
here concocting a racial hoax, which is sad empathetic in
its own right that you have to invent that to
create some kind of political issue that would give him
an edge in the race over Wayne Williams. It's one thing, George,
(25:10):
for you and I to talk about on the radio,
for you to write an op ed about it, and
for it to be pursued, as you mentioned, under new
leadership with the Department of Justice and Pam Bondi as
Attorney General.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
But I think what needs to.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Happen is the citizens of Colorado Springs need to.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Step up and start asking questions. Is there any sign
that that's happening.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
M My understanding is there a numerous CORA requests that
had gone out for information. The problem with that is
all of this stuff is a less shoe taken place
in his capacity as a private citizen candidate. So none
of that stuff would be open to KORRA and COORRA
doesn't apply to the federal government. Would have to be
SPOYA and the FBI and the US Attorney's Office enjoyed
(25:49):
pretty wide latitude and shooting down a lot of those requests.
I think the other thing that needs to happen though,
is folks like you, like Dan, like the other news
outlets out there, we need to have a Jenna Griswold
meet Kyle Clark moment with Mobilatti. The fact that the
mainstream media here, the bigger mainstream media, has yet to
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really catch on to this is bizarre. I mean you
and I would conclude that if it was Mayor Wayne
Williams and these allegations were being floated around, it would
be relentless people would be chasing him down in the
parking lot demanding in the answer to the question, but
here it's like see no evil here, no evil, speak
no evil.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Certainly a very strange story developing here and bringing light
to it. In his op ed is George Brockler our guest.
You can find it in the gazette entitled Springs Mayor
owes public some answers, and perhaps those will happen right here. George,
thank you as always for your time and for taking
the time to write this so that people can.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Learn about it.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Thanks to Migel, I will never understand why in the
offices of public relations of a communications director, let's say,
mobilatte here, the mayor of Colorado Springs, that you wouldn't
want to get in front of a story like this.
I know that my background primarily is in sports, but
it's the same thing. Michigan State University botched the entire
(27:11):
Larry Nasser scandal by.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Staying behind it, by being a day late and a
dollar short.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Had MSU gotten me in front of it and said,
we are resolute in doing whatever it takes to remove
Larry Nasser and any of his infiltrations into the Michigan
State University Gymnastics Department, the United State Olympics Department of Gymnastics.
We are going to do what is necessary to get
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to the root of the matter and the truth. There
would have been a very different outcome in my view,
and I covered that in real time. The reason I
bring that up is because the Mayor's office, in my opinion,
is handling this exactly wrong. Kelly Cacherra has reached out
to the Mayor's office. We received the report during my
(28:03):
covering for Ross Kaminski on KOA earlier today.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
There was some.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Uncorroborated secondary sourcing of outlets overseas, let's just say Nigeria,
and there were two. But I want to bring this
to your attention just to make a point. And what
these outlets were saying was that Yemi Mobilatte had been
arrested by the FBI and brought in for questioning. Now,
what Chad Bauer and I had theorized, and I think
(28:32):
this might be correct, is that there was a language
barrier there lost in translation. That sure, Yemi Mobilatti may
have been brought in by the FBI for questioning, not
as a suspect, not as a defendant, not under arrest,
but that these Nigerian media outlets may have reported it
(28:52):
as such or it may have been interpreted as such,
and we could not qualitatively source that to somebody that
was low within Colorado Springs, the city council, the FBI
down there. Rob Dawson did his due diligence as a
reporter for KOA and said that the mayor's office vehemently
refutes that report, was angry about it, and that a
(29:16):
local field officer in the FBI also deny the report.
But what you do by letting this marinate in the
public sphere is you let it linger and then it
takes out a life of its own. And what I
don't understand is why doesn't Mayor Yemi mobi Lade, come
on this program or the Dan Kaplis Show, who has
(29:37):
reached out into Colorado Springs through his affiliates and set
the record straight and tell us the straight scoop from
his perspective on what happened or what didn't happen with
regard to this racial hoax that was alleged that happened
on his law that was designed to help his campaign. Now,
(29:57):
if he hides behind attorneys or his staff, that suggests
that he has something to hide. And then in the
political sphere he doesn't want to take any risks legally
or politically. This is the statement we got from the
mayor's office down in Colorado Springs, and courtesy to Rob
Dawson for this from Vanessa Zink, she is the chief
(30:18):
communications officer for the Mayor's office down there. If you
live in Colorado Springs, I would love to hear from
U five seven seven thirty nine quote as requested today.
Here is Mayor Yemmy's statement made on November thirteenth on
the federal indictment of three people suspected of conducting a
cross burning hoax in our community. The indictment was released
(30:39):
by the US Attorney's Office on November twelve, Mayor Yummy
is not one of the three suspects listed in the indictment.
He participated in the investigation as a victim of the crime.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Quote.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
That incident during my campaign led to a very traumatic
time for my family, my campaign team, in our community.
My knowledge and interaction with Derek Bernard was as a
local media personality, and I was not aware at the
time that he was suspected of this crime. I appreciate
local and federal law enforcement's work in pursuing justice and
(31:18):
sending a message that we will not tolerate such reprehensible behavior.
Unquote your thoughts on this five seven, seven, three nine.
We wrap up our number one of Ryan schuling live
after this.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Yeah, any thoughts on this party coming? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well, I don't know if I saw it coming. I
wasn't thinking about it. But Hunter was singled out because
he broke the law.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
That's number one.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
He was singled out because he had an legal gun
and taxication charges, not because he was the president's son.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And I honestly don't care.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I just want Democrats to stop backing like they are
on this moral high ground politically when they have shown
us they're not, you know, whether it's skipping the primary
process when Biden stepped down, and things like Biden pardoning
his son stop acting like y'all at the pure party
and Republicans aren't. And it also shows me elected officials
can do whatever they want as long as they have
the political will and courage to do it.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
Charlemagne, you are so close, Charlemagne the God from the
Breakfast Club, and it's one of the most listened to
morning shows across not only the iHeart platform, but any
over the air radio platform or otherwise. But I'm willing
to have that conversation, that summit, that meeting with Charlemagne
of the God, because I think he's there.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
He's right there, knocking on the door.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
It's like Lawrence Fishburn has the halm open with the
red pill in it, and Charlemagne's.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Like, well, I don't have any reason not to take
the red pill, my man.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
You're right there. The Democratic Party is garbage right now.
It does not represent the common man, the working man,
the black American, the Hispanic American, the working white class American.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
That is gone.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
Those days have passd And he's giving a coaching analysis
right there that Democrats act like on their moral high ground.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
They're not there. They never were there.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
They just had the media and academia and Hollywood and
big Pharma and whoever else you want to see that
has the dollars to line pockets to make that argument
on their behalf. And I'll readily admit those of us
on the right we haven't had that same kind of
power until Donald Trump lent his not only name, his face,
(33:32):
his lightness, his voice, his money to the cause. As
well as Elon Musk. He is as big in this
movement as anybody, Joe Rogan, the veak Ramaswami, Tulsea Gabbard.
We have the winning hand now and we need to
learn how to play it, and we can't be afraid
(33:53):
to go there. And I think the way that Trump
is lining up these nominees for his cabinet that we
are on the right track. Let's go to the text
five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Ryan.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Can a president pardon crimes that haven't been convicted yet?
That is a question for legal scholars, and it would
be a test of our constitution, because that's what Joe
Biden has done.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
He has gone back to.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
January of twenty fourteen and said anything that Hunter Biden
has done, whether it has been uncovered or is still
yet to be discovered, is a blanket pardon for anything
he may have participated. That is a pardon for Joe
Biden himself, for Barack Obama, the Obama administration, who originally
(34:40):
enlisted Joe Biden to be in charge of Ukraine. If
you haven't heard my conversation from yesterday with Miranda Devine,
I strongly encourage you to check that out, maybe even
during this break.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
It's on the podcast.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
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three nine, and when we come back, Stephen L. Miller
Red stez on x with his take on the media
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